gameplay-help

[bleak shuttle]

what should i do with duplicate non limit broken elite and rare ships?

[sweet delta]

Limit break them for tech or memento

[remote yarrow]

Use them for LBs

[zinc turret]

is there any way to not show this option at opsi ? cuz im doing strategic search the secured and its always pop up everytime i clear the zone

[stark quiver]

turn off tb guidence, in settings "redude tb guidence" then click

[zinc turret]

how ?

[light trail]

is there a max limit to type 1 ap shells i should have

[stark quiver]

options > scroll a bit > its in its own section > reduce TB guidence > on

[stark quiver]

get at least 3 sets for 1 bb fleet

[light trail]

i have 3, but at what point is it too many if i get more

[sweet delta]

You won't use more than 3 at once

[viscid swift]

that's up to you to decide

[stark quiver]

unless you run 2 bb fleets, but i dont think many ppl do that

[light trail]

okok

[zinc turret]

thankyou

[digital cloud]

I think I found a bug

[cobalt rapids]

verify in #bug-reports then !submit in #bot-spam

[digital cloud]

well I wanted to ask first, if I'm over my max oil and I try to claim maint reward, does it show it as claimed but doesn't add oil or coins to my total?

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1245763171999023104/image.png?ex=667992dd&is=6678415d&hm=33da2e2a19e56a0c7e588d49949cf82c850a23ca1b52843d8b203ba52cedc58f&

[digital cloud]

oh I see, that's convenient

[craggy lance]

the future is now

[hollow gust]

No arrow heads smh

[left tiger]

Are these worth the cubes?

[cobalt rapids]

yes but ur cubes are low

[tame jungle]

yea but not with that amount of cubes

[flint arrow]

what could be this thing. i have a mission here supposedly, i go in, clear the map there is absolutely nothing left but the quest marker doesnt disapper. and i dont see anything in daily missions no description o

[left tiger]

alr thx

[forest palm]

it wants you to go to the red port

[sweet delta]

the port and the ocean are two different zones

[amber nebula]

It’s a mission in the port itself

[flint arrow]

i will try clicking on the building then. thanks 🥴

[cobalt rapids]

u can click on the mission and it will guide directly to the zone

[flint arrow]

yeah that was it thanks

[inland shoal]

That building is notoriously offset from its hitbox too

[keen sable]

Click slightly left of the building

[mellow hornet]

is the Junkers Ju-87 D-4 worth making for avp or should i foucs on other gold gear

[soft raft]

worth it for OpSi CV syncing comps in general
Slight timing sidegrade to Ryusei as well

[stone sluice]

When it comes to interception, a wyvern has the same effect on a support fleet ship as it does on a mob/boss fleet?

[soft raft]

iirc its fighters only

Anyone got the HE syncing setup for BZ/Soyuz/Vanguard?
Soyuz keeps occasionally delaying her shots by a good 2s after loading on WitchitaM fight and it's fucking up my timings (This is with all 3 of them running HSFCR and white shell)

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_15

[stone sluice]

Thank you

[lament bay]

is there a priority on what to use testing reports and design plans on? Mainly referring to how some good crafts in the same usage scenario have different type of materials, like how the Flapjack requires the reports while the Tigercat requires the design plans (and more gold materials in general?). Would it be better to craft the reports into rainbow ones and use design plans primarly? Is the higher material cost gonna be the bottleneck?

[cobalt rapids]

ur mats, ordnance reports and electric components will be ur main bottle necks

[soft raft]

depends on what your gear situation is like right now as yes you can craft 8 ord plans to 1 rainbow one but the question is do you still need those 8 ords to craft other stuff

[cobalt rapids]

for electric components ull want 2-3 wyvers = 3 junkers > a few flaps > 2 457
ur blanks should first be spent on 2-3 wyverns > 1-2 mk 7 > 1-2 100kais
ur ordnance is 2 457 > w.e
gold test reports is a few flaps >= 155kai > w.e
rest consult /gearlab for non mats conflicts

[lament bay]

might be me but outside flapjacks and my 2nd 155m Kai i dont see a lot of use for the gold testing reports

[cobalt rapids]

457 will eat alot

and ull want more than 2 155kais

2 155kai is like minimum for w14 campaigning

[lament bay]

is 3 junkers ju87 better than ryusei?

[cobalt rapids]

ull want both + saiun aswell

but junker is the only one gearlab exclusive

[lament bay]

i already have 1 from the prototype shop, which BB fleet would use it? or is it for campaign

[cobalt rapids]

mostly campaign

[mellow hornet]

How often do ships get xp in the dorm

[cobalt rapids]

every 15sec

[eager mulch]

How often do ships get a significant amount of xp in the dorm

[mellow hornet]

Why am I even doing campaigns when I get 2k xp every 15 sec

[lament bay]

is there a point pushing more than ch13? i've seen a coin oil ratio and ch14 was worse than ch13, plus id imagine its hard trying to farm any ship exp further than ch13

[eager mulch]

collection, bragging rights, wanting to suffer etc

[cobalt rapids]

gems for f2p, collection, higher cog income for when ure rdy for higher world farming due to gear
but i would say its safe to camp w12 in ur first year

[sweet delta]

14 has higher coin/oil than 13

[eager mulch]

i wish 15 had higher coin/oil

[inland shoal]

Not that that is really needed tbh

[tidal fjord]

Is emden good?

[sweet delta]

15-1 has higher coin/oil than 14-1

[cobalt rapids]

check ectl

[inland shoal]

Emden is decent depending on your options

[tidal fjord]

Like?

[eager mulch]

worse than ply

better than leander

[tidal fjord]

Can I use her with ply?

What is a leander

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki leander

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Leander
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Leander/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Leander/Gallery

Jun 23, 2024, 8:35 PM

[inland shoal]

Technically nothing is stopping you
I don't see that having merit in a lot of fleets tho

[tidal fjord]

So uh what fleet is good with Emden?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content

[soft raft]

5 other good ships that fit the content you're doing

we cant really get any more specific than that if we dont know what you have and what content you're doing

Post your dock in a thread if you want more details

[cobalt rapids]

for w12 and events i would use 5 other ships i want to lvl with emden

[tidal fjord]

Like here can I use Emden instead of Helena?

[soft raft]

no

[eager mulch]

i mean, he can do that

[cobalt rapids]

so true tortle

[eager mulch]

nothing is stopping him

[soft raft]

it'd just be extremely suboptimal

[eager mulch]

so what its suboptimal

not everyone needs the same 4 opsi fleets

[tidal fjord]

I only have like 3

[viscid swift]

because you can't get coins from the dorm and XP you get from campaign and dorm is greater than teh XP you just get from the dorm

[tidal fjord]

One cv,bb,mob

[viscid swift]

not to mention XP from the dorm doesn't count for CDPs

[viscid swift]

you can but why

[tidal fjord]

Emden qt

[viscid swift]

put her in the mob fleet then

[soft raft]

^
not replace one of the best debuffers in the game

[tidal fjord]

I can do that!?

[eager mulch]

Nothing stopping you

[soft raft]

And if she's waifu, who wouldnt like seeing more of their waifu if they're in the mob fleet where you'll see them more

[tidal fjord]

She ok on 14-4?

[viscid swift]

you plan on using that in 14-4?

[tidal fjord]

Yeh I'll change noshiro

[soft raft]

Have fun dying to planes ruining your concealment if that's the case

[soft raft]

huh what noshiro

[viscid swift]

please don't, I know that there's a better boss fleet for 14-4 you can put together

[tidal fjord]

I bruteforced 14 with noshiro kazagumo kawakaze

[soft raft]

Torp meme

[viscid swift]

ok...

[cobalt rapids]

very nice

[tidal fjord]

With like Volga perci fdg

Even though my friend told me to just unicorn

[cobalt rapids]

yes she wouldve been better but the fleet cant be rly called bruteforced

[viscid swift]

your friend was competent

[stone sluice]

For submarines, is it good to use 2 Biders or better to mix Bider + G7e acoustic?

[tidal fjord]

Problem is I already did

[cobalt rapids]

mixed torps for campaign, else use single sub torps

[tidal fjord]

Now I'm here dunno what to build on this map

[viscid swift]

do /w15 in #bot-spam

[cobalt rapids]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[soft raft]

definetly not the vanguard you were running for W14, that's for sure

[viscid swift]

depends on the context

former for bossing, latter for campaign

[vagrant gale]

whats a good team to 1 or 2 shot witchita meta

[tidal fjord]

I mean I didn't have anything I asked here last time that's the thing I was recommended

[viscid swift]

https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=40597727

[soft raft]

people here reccomended that vanguard to you?
I kinda find that hard to belive

[cobalt rapids]

ppl usually ask u to open threads here

[tidal fjord]

Yeh wait

[cobalt rapids]

precisely because we dont know what u have

[viscid swift]

no one here who's competent would have reccomended Perseus over Unicorn retro for W14

[stone sluice]

For 15-3

[viscid swift]

15-3 is campaign so the latter

[stone sluice]

[tidal fjord]

I still have the pic

☝️ I made a thread last time someone told me to go with kazagumo noshiro kawakaze vanguard

[eager mulch]

Renhex 📸

[tidal fjord]

I managed to do 14-4 with this though although I changed some things

[cobalt rapids]

like unicorn to percy ?

[tidal fjord]

Yeh

And instead of that boss vanguard I used anchorage Plymouth shimakaze

[cobalt rapids]

i rly doubt u had anchorage at the time i made the recc

[viscid swift]

or Plymouth, or Shima MLB

[tidal fjord]

Yep

But I still used that mob vanguard up to 14-4

[viscid swift]

okay, doesn't mean it's particularly good though

[tidal fjord]

True but I still can't build mob on 14-4

So I stuck with it

[viscid swift]

what

[tidal fjord]

What

[viscid swift]

well changing to Perseus certainly didn't help

[tidal fjord]

I tot she was good

[viscid swift]

how closely did you even follow the gear recc?

[viscid swift]

she's worse than Unicorn retro and noticeably so in later campaign stages like W14

[tidal fjord]

Uh aside from the "minor" ship changes I did geh 95% of the gear

[viscid swift]

you lose a bit of main fleet healing but you gain a lot more vanguard healing and damage

[viscid swift]

what was missing
because not all of that gear is easily replacable

[tidal fjord]

The wyvern

And shoes

I used beaver

[fickle scarab]

If someone doesn't have wyvern and ur aa and good tech what are their odds of clearing 15-4?

[viscid swift]

pretty good still

if Riceist's Breguet cooking is to be believed anyway

[eager mulch]

anywhere between 0% to 100%

[cobalt rapids]

if some1 doesnt have wyvern then their acc state is pretty low to 0 for w15

[tidal fjord]

Oh no

[eager mulch]

where there’s a will there’s a way

[tidal fjord]

Guess I should stop slacking on opsi?

[viscid swift]

yes

OpSi isn't even difficult

[tidal fjord]

Opsi kinda feels like arcarum and I rlly hate arcarum

[viscid swift]

I have no idea what that is

[cobalt rapids]

gbf thing

[viscid swift]

but it's pretty straightforward, you do clear the campaign

then each month after clearing every node, buy what you need from the shop, and dump any remaining AP into C5 nodes
rinse, repeat, and profit

and the puzzles are just for your first clear
you don't need to do them ever again after

[tidal fjord]

Wtf there's puzzle?

[eager mulch]

I’ll put it into perspective for you, opsi feels like getting devstruck every game

[viscid swift]

hmmm

skill issue

[little tree]

Do UR ships take less EXP to level to 100? they always seem to level fast

[rapid grail]

yeah but the game doesn't give you puzzles past the opsi story chapters

[rapid grail]

More, actually

[viscid swift]

they take more and for all levels up to 125

[bleak shuttle]

i just returned to the game after 2 years and dont know how to clear my dock

[viscid swift]

use commons to enhance your ships and retire rare and higher dupes for medals, latter is under the build tab

[tidal fjord]

So uj

Can I get opsi fleet reco? Now that I have ok stuff?

[viscid swift]

start a thread and post your dock

[still sage]

Currently what is the Best UR ship for now looking only by stats and skills?

[bleak shuttle]

should i keep 1 of each from rare and elite?

[viscid swift]

that's literally impossible to answer seeing as different ships do different roles and you judge fleets based on overall composition and not the strength of the individual ships

[viscid swift]

I would reccomend keeping one copy of each ship yes

[sweet delta]

I would recommend limit breaking certain ships rather than retiring their dupes

[still sage]

Oh I thought there is some sort of meta In azur, ships you always want to have in fleet if possible

[sweet delta]

Case by case

[bleak shuttle]

i don't have enough coins and they won't let me into battle because i'm capped

[viscid swift]

there's maybe one such ship in Azur Lane, Unicorn retro for mob fleets
everything else is entirely dependent on the content and what you have

[sweet delta]

Retire the ships who drop easily from maps

And consider buying dock space

[still sage]

Oh, cuz I always have problem with that, to many ships do different things, with different skills and there are so many of them I always don't know what to choose In main fleet

[viscid swift]

as I said depends on the content, if you need help with fleet building, start a thread, post your dock
and tell us what content you need these fleets for

[still sage]

Um as a "new" player, how many "contents" are in azur lane for fleet, mob clearing,... and ?

[viscid swift]

campaign up to W12 and events, w13, W14, W15, Operation Siren, meta showdowns, PvP, etc
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
also give that a read

[tidal fjord]

Are these fleets ok though?

[viscid swift]

some very very questionable decisions

[tidal fjord]

I don't have brest

[cobalt rapids]

start a thread

[sweet delta]

Fleet 3 is ok

[viscid swift]

that's the least of your issues

[stark quiver]

cv fleet is questionable, i mean you have the "cvs", run a tank and sirius

[tidal fjord]

I think i could change helmet to sirius

I just don't have her lvld

[viscid swift]

you should also change Emden to Guam

[still sage]

Why would anyone use basic blue rarity cat?!

[tidal fjord]

Eh? Then what can I change to my mob fleet

[tidal fjord]

Cuz cats are zzzzzz

[viscid swift]

I don't know, depends on what you have

start a thread and post screen shots of your dock

[tidal fjord]

Hit me with anything I think this acc has everything

[fickle scarab]

Can chesh replace jeanne in w15 comps?

[viscid swift]

all the gacha URs and all the PR ships maxed?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[tidal fjord]

Except collabs

I could run hinden?

[viscid swift]

^

[sweet delta]

#1154283227045974018 message

[tidal fjord]

Brest the only one not buiilt

[viscid swift]

if you want us to assume you have everything then all the gacha URs need to be max limit broken
and all the PR ships at dev 30/FS5

[tidal fjord]

2 are dev 25

Kear and drake

[viscid swift]

BB Boss: Bismarck Zwei, Alsace, Soyuz, Agir, Helena, Plymouth
CV Boss: Shinano, Implacable, Haku, Guam, Kazagumo, Sirius
Mob: Independence, Unicorn, [filler], Kronshtadt, Unzen, Hindenburg
4th fleet: whatever

[tidal fjord]

Soyuz replace vanguard?

[viscid swift]

yes

[tidal fjord]

Ok I can do it

The only one not raised is Sirius anyway

That filler I can slot yt2 right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[tidal fjord]

Ok ty

[cobalt rapids]

implac magic trick

[sweet delta]

Is this your current fleets?

[tidal fjord]

Yep before I was running musashi instead of alsace

[sweet delta]

How did you get this account

[tidal fjord]

😎 make a guess

[earnest flare]

Any recommendations for gear lab crafts? About to get tenrai from pr4/protocore, am also 36/50 on the pr2 ur ap gun

[inner delta]

do read tos if you don't want to get ban

[sweet delta]

[cobalt rapids]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[sweet delta]

this picture doesn't say much because your ships may have equipped gear that's not shown here, but start with ju87d and/or 128mm in /gearlab

[earnest flare]

I unequipped pretty much everything, but sounds good thanks!

[sweet delta]

then just ju87d and more wyvern

and saiun from pr4

[tidal fjord]

Mb

[earnest flare]

ok sounds good. is ju87d reliable for changing timing compared to saiun and ryusei?

[cobalt rapids]

as reliable as saiun and ryuusei

[remote yarrow]

Not banned from the server but in game buying accounts is bannable if that's what you were implying

[sweet delta]

banned from server too but maybe not

[tidal fjord]

I bought his time

[cobalt rapids]

just keep it to urself

[tidal fjord]

Oke oke

[forest palm]

[remote yarrow]

He's gone

[forest palm]

I so do enjoy watching people dig their own grave

[fickle scarab]

Pr4 coinable right?

[remote yarrow]

PRs yes DRs no

[desert tapir]

Where is the stat explaination on the wiki again?

[forest palm]

as in what each stat does, or?

[desert tapir]

What each stat does

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki damage calculations

[sweet delta]

in game if you tap the ship stats

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[desert tapir]

Thank you

[little tree]

So is pr 4 or 5 better to be researching atm

[forest palm]

PR4 generally speaking

[cobalt rapids]

4 into 5

[sweet delta]

🔮 maybe 4 into 7

[little tree]

What if the last 2 months you though you had 4 selected but it was 5 should I swap ot off to 4 now ?

[remote yarrow]

The what?

[sweet delta]

Stay in 5 maybe

[cobalt rapids]

ugh
continue with 5 ig

[little tree]

I made a big mistake lmao

[cobalt rapids]

its ok, not rly a big mistake

.

[worldly pewter]

i spent 2 months in 6 then went to 4 after founding out about the massive int

[forest palm]

now that's a true waste of time

[shell willow]

thats exactly what im doing

does pr4 have some really good equipment? or why

[forest palm]

don't mind me I have a strong opinion against PR6

[cobalt rapids]

it has good ships and equipment

[remote yarrow]

4 commonly used ships and some pretty decent gear

[worldly pewter]

4 not arguable is the best series

[shell willow]

hmm i see, sadly ill never finish the DRs, i didnt even know they were not coinable until smootie said a few mins ago, so i was farming xp for agir basically uselessly

[undone plover]

honestly focusing 5 or 6 isnt a huge mistake
doing 1-3 or no focus is the bigger int

[cobalt rapids]

its not useless
aegir for newbies replaces most of their tank options even pre d30
and u should be gathering pr4 bps and eventually mlb her anyway

[remote yarrow]

what are you talking about, it's not useless, Agir and Haku just take time

[shell willow]

i meant like, rushing xp was useless

because its gonna take months to get the bps

[loud rover]

no, it just means u dont have to do it later

[remote yarrow]

I mean that's how research works, its takes you about 2 to 3 months to complete a Season

[undone plover]

agir is kinda usable after her catchup if u dont have much better options

[worldly pewter]

i don't see the argument in this part

[cobalt rapids]

u can get d15 aegir just from catchup

[forest palm]

18

probably hit 20 by the time you're done with catch up

[rapid grail]

takes 2 to 3 months to dev30 usually, slash that by a month w/ catchup

[shell willow]

[rapid grail]

add 2 months for future fatesim because the game knows you are nearing that milestone and intentionally sabotage rates

[loud rover]

me rn with haku fs5, i'm almost done and i havent been getting her face researches

[forest palm]

dems the breaks

[soft raft]

did you get Agir to D30 and the other PR4s to FS5 yet?

[loud rover]

u asking me or sleepy?

[soft raft]

you

[rapid grail]

pr4 pr ships are w/e just dump coins to them

[forest palm]

no ship is worth going past the daily limit

[soft raft]

tf you mean w/e

[loud rover]

aside from MP (who i'm working on rn. didnt feel like building her until i saw that pr7 gonna be italian) everyone is d30/fs5 and i'm just about done with haku fs5

[soft raft]

oh that's not too bad
shit RNG then ig

[loud rover]

very lol

i could use the dr4 prints from event shop but i'm greeding that for protocore

[undone plover]

have you done azuma and drake for protocore?

[loud rover]

i skipped pr/dr 2 and 3 in general cause i went straight to pr4 after roon and sanrui. I have FDG, i skipped azuma

so i still have their catchups

[shell willow]

my thought process was that i rush agir xp so i can start buying 6 or so cheap prints daily. if i knew she wasnt coinable i could just have done for example shimanto first who i can almost dev 30, and then agir sometime later

[craggy lance]

what even is this thing anyway? is it someone's gun in particular?

[remote yarrow]

Atleast 3000 protocore right there

[rapid grail]

takao gun, not worth getting

[loud rover]

mediocre at best

[sweet delta]

ibuki

[craggy lance]

gotcha, thanks

[rapid grail]

see i don't rly care who own that gun

[worldly pewter]

get agir and u won't regret it trust

[rapid grail]

some gear lab stuff a legit trap bcs of scarce materials early on

[loud rover]

after i build MP, should I build any pr2 in particular that would have some good tech? forgot i built cheshire so i can use pr3 catchups on her since she fs5

[cobalt rapids]

1 week delay is a drop in the ocean

[craggy lance]

core shop is where ive been seeing it, only saw it was in gear lab when i looked it up

i like giving people "their" stuff where applicable (mainly blueprint ships because they explicitly come with their guns) but i'm not neurotic about it, it just gives me warm fuzzies on occasion

[viscid swift]

that's from the core data shop not the gear lab

[craggy lance]

both actually

[undone plover]

gascogne has 2 BB RLD (and 1 BB FP on obtain )

[loud rover]

ooooo

[craggy lance]

stuff like georgia gun for georgia, you know how it is

[undone plover]

u can also use pr2 catchup for protocore if u still have it

[rapid grail]

aaaand even there it's ehhhh. Much better stuff to get from core data shop for due to limited currency

[sweet delta]

i do the same ||when i use georgia...||

[loud rover]

Can I get some help remaking my opsi fleets? I have mlb Nano so I can do hakunano in my CV fleet, but idk what to do for a 4th fleet

[cobalt rapids]

thread as always

[loud rover]

waiting 6 years for them to load

[cobalt rapids]

in 6 years

[loud rover]

yay they loaded after having to retry and they got corrupted

[red stirrup]

how do i take out all of my secretary and just leave one?

[hollow gust]

?

[forest palm]

like you're removing a ship from your dorm

[stark quiver]

after the new IB event, would there most likely be a dead week

[forest palm]

probably PR7, but who knows

[remote yarrow]

You never know what the devs could be cooking

[keen sable]

It's fake

[forest palm]

just a useless Twin 203 HE CA Gun

Takao Gun

[echo portal]

Lv 140 here making a basic question, does pvp battles give affinity over 100?

[elfin hollow]

Pvp battle never give affinity

[rapid grail]

no lol

[echo portal]

That's what I thought

[stark quiver]

What would the new event ships be? Or has it not been released yet

[forest palm]

what? have you not been paying attention to #game-news ?

[stark quiver]

I counted 4 i might be wrong will there be more?

[forest palm]

nope, it's an SP

[stark quiver]

One shop one milestone? I forgot how sp event works

[remote yarrow]

German Taihou,Archerfish and pink haired sisters

[hollow gust]

Anson where :(

[soft raft]

Nowhere

[whole crypt]

[wind hazel]

z47 is her

[stark quiver]

In cooked 400 cubes left and no yorck, still gotta pull for new ib event , honestly my fault for playing inconsistently the for the last few years

[forest palm]

still a few days left

[viscid swift]

Pick a deity and start praying

[eager mulch]

i pick you

[loud rover]

cheeky shall lead us all to URs within 10 pulls

[rapid grail]

sure. To compensate, you're cursed to get the Elite after you reach UR pity.

[candid meteor]

should i mlb shima or laffey II.

[soft raft]

Laffey II first

[rapid grail]

laffey II has more application in campaign stages
shima can be burst option for opsi and campaign

you'll want the survivability and utility of laffii first though

[loud rover]

nah, i'd be cursed to not have enough bulins to upgrade all of the URs

[candid meteor]

i never have enought ur bulins

[loud rover]

maybe one day they'll remove specialized core cap so that we can actually use the URs we get

[agile sky]

is the difference in difficulty between 12-1 to 12-4 significant or not really?

[forest palm]

1 is for xp, 4 is for coin

it's small, but depends on what you value

[clever sun]

Hey if my akagi in second fleet, will it count with the call to arm:iron blood events if i only use fleet 1?

[soft raft]

no

[mellow hornet]

is seydlitz good in anything other than one good pvp setup

[soft raft]

German tech points
Also said pvp setup is prob not even considered good these days, esp since this event is 2 years old

[rapid grail]

nah no longer. She kind of lacking in firepower compared to other option nowadays
and even in pvp she is deadge now. Always had the opinion that she was copium for those that didn't have better ships in the gamemode you just mentioned

[forest palm]

go grab Albacore, and use Flasher, and Archerfish

[night pumice]

is there anything worth farming for in this event

[forest palm]

buy Albacore from the Meritshop, and raise Archer, and Flasher

[soft raft]

Outside of the banner ships mostly being tech fodder, no not really
just get whatever resources you need

[mellow hornet]

i thought wolfpack was still the meta?

[night pumice]

ah okay. and is there a point at which I should start worrying about a sub fleet or can I get by just fine without one

[soft raft]

there's technically not much diff between fishpack and wolfpack

[forest palm]

here's the top sub fleets, there's little difference between them

[mellow hornet]

so just try to get the sub exchange next month

[remote yarrow]

No? Have you not read what Taz said? Get Albacore from Merit

[forest palm]

Merit shop isn't a montly reset

[mellow hornet]

oh i was thinking medals

[forest palm]

content is made to be cleared without them, but if you want to take advantage of them, it's going to be world 14, and 15

[remote yarrow]

Refresh is rng tho

[clever sun]

I wonder why hood better than tosa?

[soft raft]

Post-aug she has 100% barrage proc rate which is basically the bare mininum for BBs these days while Tosa is stuck at a max proc rate of 75%

[forest palm]

they don't even occupy the same space

[remote yarrow]

Having a 100% Barrage proc makes wonders

[mellow hornet]

so i just get u-37 or archerfish, whatever comes up first becuase i have the other two for fishpack and wolfpack

[soft raft]

yeah pretty much

[clever sun]

Thanks

How to turn off the chat system during fight? I sometimes turned it on but cant turn it off

[remote yarrow]

Chat system during fight?

[soft raft]

chat system? like the in-game global chat?
Or are you talking about the speech bubbles that pop up when ships are activating voicelines

[forest palm]

Just tap the left side of the screen

[soft raft]

[remote yarrow]

What the fuck? That exists?

[forest palm]

holy shit you zoomers

[soft raft]

Didnt even know it was possible to pull that up mid-fight
Unless that's a bug

[forest palm]

it's been there for ages

actual old feature

[remote yarrow]

I've never seen it before holy

[forest palm]

Never questioned what this did?

[wind hazel]

probably cause people have it off

[remote yarrow]

Wait

[forest palm]

used to spam Sandy in channel 4 back in the day

[atomic abyss]

Yes it's been there for ages can confirm

[soft raft]

Insane

[wind hazel]

people that uses ingame chats are weirdo

[atomic abyss]

People normally notice it during PvP more

[remote yarrow]

I don't have it

[forest palm]

Mori said it, you have to turn it on

[remote yarrow]

No wonder I never saw it, I thought I was tripping for a second

[forest palm]

it was probably on by default

anyway, ya if it's open you just tap the left side of your screen, and it disappears

[eager mulch]

not like it ever has anything useful

[forest palm]

it was fun spaming Sandy back in the day

[clever sun]

The in game glpbal chat

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message

[clever sun]

Thanks

[loud rover]

should i just give mog gun to chang chun(opsi)? any other DD i use(whether campaign or opsi) has been torpedo boats

[clever sun]

How about the meta showdown? If i request people heling me, will i get the same reward as that person get?

[forest palm]

what CLs do you use

[eternal moth]

No, because they get less points. If you request help you get the full amount of points for the meta based on its current level. If your meta ship is level 15, it'll be the full 350 points you get once she sinks, while anyone helping would get a max of 75

[forest palm]

what they get is support points which are weighted less, your personal fights you're calling for help weigh more points for you

[loud rover]

helena, jda(raising her for w15 and she's in an opsi fleet that swaps out my mob for harby), marseillaise, sandy, sirius, mintsuu(same opsi fleet as jda), juneau and aurora (last two are situational)

[soft raft]

huh what does CLs have to do with Mog gun

[loud rover]

some CLs can equip DD guns

[clever sun]

Thanks guys

[soft raft]

Right

[forest palm]

Sandy would be the only one among those I'd give the 138.6 if you don't have a 100 kai for her

[candid meteor]

whos jda agian

[forest palm]

Jean de dork arc

[loud rover]

jeanne d'Arc

[clever sun]

What minimum lv of ships i should get to get meta ship from meta showdown?

[soft raft]

Jeanne D'Arc
French CL that's good for boos vang survival in W14-15

[eternal moth]

AKA Arturia Pendragon/Saber

[silk helm]

Any of these golds worth investing in

[forest palm]

I feel like Lv 120 is the min, otherwise you're just facing larger level disadvantage

[candid meteor]

catapults

[loud rover]

i guess, she might end up in a w15 fleet as well and her aug makes her dpm dummy good. 100kai hasnt been my prio and i have a small pile of EU twin 127mm because thats all i get from EU boxes when i get gold

[eternal moth]

Hellcats, quad mags, barracuda, hedgehog, white shell, maybe the gun SF has

[clever sun]

Also is farming operation worth for the drop?

[remote yarrow]

Probably all of them but the cranes and the 610 torps

Oh and the messershit scrap that

[eternal moth]

You mean OpSi? If so yeah

[silk helm]

It's not good?

[soft raft]

What no bombs does to a mfer

[silk helm]

[remote yarrow]

One of the worst SR Fighters

[loud rover]

doesnt matter how good ur AA is if u aint got a payload

[sharp socket]

wyvern feels underwhelming to me

[soft raft]

welp that's just you

[eternal moth]

Then you aren't using it correctly

[sharp socket]

torps not hitting

[clever sun]

Thanks

[loud rover]

still the best parallel torps whether you like it or not

[plain saffron]

it's for mobbing where there's a lot of ships

[silk helm]

How good is the twin 127

[soft raft]

that's pretty natural for parallel torps in general so that's a non-issue

[soft raft]

Which one

[plain saffron]

If your plane launch and there's no enemy you might want to stagger the launch time

[loud rover]

if u talking about the EU twin 127 dual purpose, its good if you dont have anything better

[sharp socket]

the torps really like to go to the bottom half of my screen

[loud rover]

then thats where the enemies are

[sharp socket]

every time when the enemy is at the top half

[plain saffron]

That's just how parallel TB works

[silk helm]

This

[plain saffron]

There's nothing we can do about it

[loud rover]

just use independence, she blankets the whole screen, ez

[soft raft]

Poverty option

[plain saffron]

Good enough for early game

[silk helm]

All I got is poverty

[sharp socket]

and im supposed to get 3 of these

[loud rover]

me still using it because i dont have a single 100kai

[silk helm]

Is it like s tier poverty

[plain saffron]

You're probably not in place where you need it yet

Or maybe if you want
Go use other parallel torp
Then you'll see the difference

[loud rover]

go use a gold barracuda

[sharp socket]

the difference is 4k damage between it and barracuda on indep

22k with wyvern vs 18k with barra

[plain saffron]

wyvern can't fix the flaw in the mechanic itself, but the dmg is certainly higher

[plain saffron]

In what stage

[soft raft]

yeah because Wyvern is strong enough to not give a shit about Indep's USS restriction/buff meanwhile she's performing relatively subpar with Barracuda being there instead of a USS plane in that slot

[sharp socket]

wichita meta

[plain saffron]

If you're doing it in easy stage barra can already kill it so there won't be diff in dmg

Nvm that's why

[soft raft]

Why are you using her there

[sharp socket]

rainbow

[plain saffron]

You're using mobbing tb
In boss fight

And you're wondering why it sucks

[sharp socket]

i dont have better options

[loud rover]

so if i dont have a spare wyvern to put on indep (my only wyvern on unikai), what should i use other than a gold barracuda?

[soft raft]

you give the Wyvern to Indep since she deals more damage

[plain saffron]

In boss any converging torp will be better than wyvern

Again
Wyvern is for MOB

[sharp socket]

well u see i dont have anything

[remote yarrow]

I see Tenzan right there

[viscid swift]

How do you have a wyvern and no saiuns, Ryusseis, or ju-87d

[candid meteor]

how do you have wyvern but nothing else

[sharp socket]

grind opsi for 28 hours in 1 week

[viscid swift]

Saiun is from Pr4, Ju-87d the gear lab, and ryussei from both

[loud rover]

huh, about 70% of the time its uni doing more dmg (mainly cause preload but still more dmg)

[sharp socket]

does saiun kai converge?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[soft raft]

That's just her preload stealing all the kills

[sharp socket]

alright i have some of those

[loud rover]

actually it might be better to switch, barra is faster so she gets her heals a second faster

[undone plover]

u can make the soviet VIT as well if u research series 5 so far
should be better than cuda
or breguet if u are flush with core data

[loud rover]

VIT-2 has 12.5 and barracuda has 10.31 according to wiki, but its 6 torps to 3 respectively

[forest palm]

Barracuda → VIT ~ Breguet → Wyvern ~ Spearfish it's that simple

[loud rover]

it'd still mean uni launches slower

[clever sun]

How to get fuel fast?

[undone plover]

more damage is usually worth the slightly slower launch

[candid meteor]

as in oil? collect from mail i guessif you have any

[loud rover]

i would get a breguet, i have 1900 core data, but i still need snorkels for my subs and whatever their other aux is

[undone plover]

yeah sub gear is higher prio that is fine

[loud rover]

vit it is i guess

[clever sun]

How to get oil from mail?

[zinc turret]

I grind opsi for almost a month and still no wyvern

[loud rover]

not the worst reload, 10.12 at +10, although almost 21 second reload hurts mah soul

i need more CV reload tech

[forest palm]

pressure hull

[undone plover]

u can speedrun a wyvern using the blue file loggers and making sure u buy the shops for better rng for the UR designs (pre-reset)
but also what is the point
early game goal should be farming chapter 12 and u dont need wyverns for that

[zinc turret]

When im gonna need wyvern then ?

[sharp socket]

it was indeed better

[forest palm]

kind of silly to get a breguet from the shop if you have enough to make a wyvern, cause you just buy the component plane in the core data shop

[undone plover]

get your 4 guarenteed UR designs per month (3 port shops and 1 arbiter)
use 2 gold cats in the mob fleet (can potentially give UR designs from the cat nodes)
and just wait
overtime u will have a lot of wyverns

and dont waste electronics and materials overall

[sharp socket]

bad survivability this time but i can maybe get 400k but still 4pan overall

[plain saffron]

Welp, but still just because you're using wyvern in wrong place doesn't mean it's underwhelming

[loud rover]

1300 core data a month over 3 months hits hard, but i guess it gives me a reason to do higher hard worlds

[sharp socket]

i was expecting it to be really good given that u guys place it at such high importance for opsi grind

[undone plover]

u get 2700 per month if u do ch13 hard

[loud rover]

i havent even done w14 yet, no way i can do h13

i could probably do h12 out the get go tomorrow

[undone plover]

definitely do 12 at least
although 13 isnt that hard
just need good ships and gear
sandy guam and laff2 make it trivial

[slender heart]

Is that the once lv110 alsace?

[sharp socket]

she is now 113

[loud rover]

i got guam and sandy, laff2 only lb1 cause i got her copy

1 sexy, no french UR AA

[sharp socket]

D3 isnt very good for exp

[undone plover]

should still be enough to tackle it
but clear 12h first

[plain saffron]

You'll see in chapter 14 and 15

[lunar glacier]

I was sent here

[remote yarrow]

[loud rover]

[remote yarrow]

I saw it, the Lv 70 rush pack isn't necessary at all but it's helpful if you can afford it

[lunar glacier]

To be honest I can def afford it, I just idnt know if it would mess up my progress or something

[remote yarrow]

And also give this a read since you said you were new to the game https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[loud rover]

wouldnt it just unlock everything off the bat?

[undone plover]

it can speed up your progression
but u dont rly need it

[sharp socket]

if u like to tryhard then yes its good pack

but fundamentals still apply

[stark quiver]

you get to do a lot, when you jump from 0-70

[remote yarrow]

After you are done with the guide you can go ahead and ask whatever question you got, that's what this channel is for

[stark quiver]

i mean for one you get to unlock a holy amount of daily missions, you get research lab, unlock pr/dr, a lot of commissions, chapter 10

[lunar glacier]

🫡

I still cant figure out how to get the 3rd star on my levels

I go and do the mission like 3 times butr I dont get the 3rd star

[remote yarrow]

Which one was the third again?

[loud rover]

defeat all enemies on the map

[plain saffron]

Clear all enemy in 1 run

[lunar glacier]

Oh but I run out of ammo

[soft raft]

(This means every enemy node that is not the boss node)

[plain saffron]

Ypu can fight with 0 ammo

[remote yarrow]

Ammo doesn't matter you can still fight

It's "only" a damage debuff

[plain saffron]

But with -50% dmg debuffs
But usually level advantage is enough to negate this

[lunar glacier]

my brain is exploding from this knowledge

[loud rover]

welcome to gameplay help, we tell you what the game barely hints at

[plain saffron]

Should've clicked the icons at the top left

[lunar glacier]

I have two very neat ships called emden and howe 🫡 they carry me thru everything

[stark quiver]

alright so, 3rd star is killing all enemies, out of ammo is fine

[loud rover]

clear all mob fleets before attacking the boss

[remote yarrow]

Yeah they are pretty decent, but try not to use too many SRs early on

[loud rover]

idk how friendly emden is to new players, but howe is a pretty good BB to start off with

[lunar glacier]

not too many srs

Ah the yellow units

[viscid swift]

don't assume higher rarity automatically means better for anything in AL

[lunar glacier]

this is what I use

[remote yarrow]

Since Limit breaks are a really important part of this game and you Limit Break with SR Bulins which are time gated

[lunar glacier]

I didnt know whatr to put where so I just did what I wanted lol

[viscid swift]

could be better
give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[loud rover]

get helena from refresh guild shop and replace emden

[remote yarrow]

Already sent

[viscid swift]

at that point no

[loud rover]

or not

[soft raft]

at that point Helena would prob replace Jav

[viscid swift]

Emden is already MLB and heavily leveled

[loud rover]

oh i didnt even notice the mlb on emden

[lunar glacier]

this one?

[mellow hornet]

is their any efficient/better way to farm proto core

[remote yarrow]

Tbh that fleet is pretty decent if we consider you don't know anything about fleet building

[viscid swift]

Suruga is the one you'd be looking to replace

[soft raft]

that's core data not protocore

[viscid swift]

other than the ways listed in the research guide no
you literally only have 3 ways of getting prototype cores

[loud rover]

i didnt say anything wdym

[mellow hornet]

so its just oil holding you pack every month

[soft raft]

Oil?
that's not really related to protocore grind though?

[mellow hornet]

the gray stuff capped at 5000

[remote yarrow]

Yeah but your fleet is decent enough rn since you already MLBd Emden (Max Limit Break) throw her into your dorm

[soft raft]

that's specailized core
Different currency

[lunar glacier]

wait

was I not supposed to use the dupes?

[remote yarrow]

You were, there's no reason to raise a dupe

[lunar glacier]

relief

[loud rover]

if u have dupes of a ship, limit break with those first. there's no reason to keep dupes

[remote yarrow]

And talking about dorm or rather Gems if you plan on staying F2P do not spend them on Skins,rings, packs,oil,coins,etc

[lunar glacier]

[remote yarrow]

Only spend them on Dorm slot 3 + 2nd floor for now

[candid meteor]

unless you really like the skin or shipgirl ofc. as in really really like it

[loud rover]

you've got some good ships rn cel so i'd recommend not using any more cubes to build and just use the tickets from the event. 3 tickets a day if u can until the last day of the event

[remote yarrow]

There's no unless for F2Ps if they don't wanna screw up their QOL

[lunar glacier]

so if I kinda already messed up do I now have to cope

[remote yarrow]

Or swipe

[lunar glacier]

its ok I can fix this with 10 bucks and a prayer

[loud rover]

there's gems you can get from some chapter clears, but dont spend anymore aside from what smootie said.

[lunar glacier]

how do I find more weapons, also, how do I know what weapons work better on my ships

[remote yarrow]

You only get about 5.5k~ guaranteed gems as a F2P

[loud rover]

thats way more than i thought

[remote yarrow]

Early on you get more gear from Composing your T1 and T2 Tech boxes into T3 and opening them

[viscid swift]

opening tech boxes early game and reading a guide

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment This guide

[loud rover]

||info dump the new player||

[remote yarrow]

We are answering their questions

[loud rover]

i'm well aware, same thing happened to me when i first got here

[undone plover]

u can also farm current event and buy the T4 boxes in the event shop

[lunar glacier]

oh yeah first thing I did

[remote yarrow]

So for now finish getting everything possible from the event shop (prio in pins 📌 )

I wonder is there any decent ship they can get as a map drop to replace that Suruga rn?

~~Sara in A3 ~~

[undone plover]

Saratoga but elite mapdrop

[remote yarrow]

Yeah that's cope

[undone plover]

He might have good options already
Did he post dock?

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[lunar glacier]

I have emden unicorn suruga javelin portland howe pennsylvania hiei thuringen helena long island london giliou cesar foch meta indianapolis suzuya ajax gneisenau foch suffolk fortune repulse tennessee ajax

I realize now I could've ss that

[remote yarrow]

You could've

[loud rover]

penn for suruga?

[remote yarrow]

probably

[lunar glacier]

doable

[loud rover]

cheap, can put in flag since howe doesnt need it

[remote yarrow]

Use pennsylvania for now, move her to the middle and Howe to the side

And maybe Sandwich your Javelin (pic so I don't need to scroll up)

[remote yarrow]

In any case you got any other questions?

[lunar glacier]

like this?

[undone plover]

U should try and get hood from the medal shop before the month ends
She pairs nicely with howe
Dont use her yet tho since u wont have enough gold bulins for both ships

[lunar glacier]

How does one achieve getting medals

[remote yarrow]

And how do you get Medals you may ask
Retiring Rare and above ships (mainly dupes)

[sour viper]

unicorn in the mid is better, i think? （i played for long time, photo as shown to prove

[remote yarrow]

Wrong

[loud rover]

unicorn in flagship position is asking to die

[soft raft]

uh no because if the flagship dies, the whole fleet dies
A majority of BBs also have barrages that are centered around them, which means if they;re off flag, half of their barrage is gonna careen straight off screen and do jack shit

BBs are also more bulky

[lunar glacier]

are there any other blue characters I should lock?

[sweet delta]

I also played for a long time (trust) and you're wrong

[soft raft]

you should be locking all unique copies of ships in general

[leaden wigeon]

phoenix

[sour viper]

well thanks , i may be wrong, coz i just use ur ships to push lol

[remote yarrow]

You can retire the ones you don't need/want later once you level them to 120

But you are far off that rn

[leaden wigeon]

If your just starting out she can be useful to just keep your fleet from dieing and is easy to get but you do replace her fast

[sharp socket]

there are many blues that are good for memento

[viscid swift]

that's everything?

[sweet delta]

Unicorn keeps your fleet from dying

[leaden wigeon]

It's not retro

[lunar glacier]

Also how do I get the retrofit materials

[loud rover]

ok but unicorn has a heal w/o retro

[leaden wigeon]

She only unlocks uni's aid in retro

[sharp socket]

hard mode

[sweet delta]

Phoenix has mid damage and a nearly irrelevant zombie skill and no TRP stat for event map checks

[remote yarrow]

From Hardmode but you can only get Gold retrofit materials from W3 and above

[viscid swift]

I would reccomend giving that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource

[blazing pecan]

Is there evalulations of the new Gear Lab equipment?

[leaden wigeon]

If you want to retrofit unicorn do the -4 hard mode maps

[sharp socket]

i regret not keeping my pheonix because now i have to buy her from guild shop for memento gems

[viscid swift]

the DD gun is a minor and very expensive upgrade over the blue 76mm, everything else is unremarkable

[lunar glacier]

Like, map 4 hard mode?

[soft raft]

NJ gun is NJ gun (Tho low prio to craft)
The British DD gun is a sidegrade to the 76mm
Everything else is

That's the TLDR of it

[remote yarrow]

Hardmode X-4 where X should be above 3 for gold ones

[sweet delta]

Any chapter 3+ fourth map in hard mode

[blazing pecan]

So the DD gun is slightly better, but more expensive

[remote yarrow]

If you are looking to retrofit Unicorn

[lunar glacier]

oh okok

[viscid swift]

That's what I said yes

[remote yarrow]

Oh yeah we didn't tell you but I think you read it already, retrofit both Unicorn and Portland asap, it might take you a couple weeks so no rush

[soft raft]

yeah
Wouldnt say it's a high prio to craft but it's certainly a option if you have the resources to spend and have already crafted a decent amoutn of other higher prio gear lab gear

[sharp socket]

each node gives different mats, DD is x-1, CL/CA is x-2, BB or equivalent is x-3, CV or equivalent is x-4

[blazing pecan]

I already crafted 1 for my Kawakaze, ill hold off on getting more for now

[leaden wigeon]

No there are 4 stages in each map and each stage drops a different kind of retro mat that drops from the different ones -1 is destroyers -2 is crusers -3 is battleships and-4 is carriers

[lunar glacier]

So like

[leaden wigeon]

Like 3-4 hard

[lunar glacier]

If I do chapter 1 hard mode, does it drop less mats than chapter 4 hardmode? or does it not matter

[remote yarrow]

Odds shouldn't change but only Hardmode above 3 drops gold mats

[lunar glacier]

ok, what level does hard mode start at?

[soft raft]

we dont know the drop rates, but we do know two things

• Higher world = more core data per run
• Only W3H and above can drop gold retrofit materials

[remote yarrow]

As long as you cleared a campaign stage fully (all 4 stages 100%) you should have it's hardmode unlocked

[blazing pecan]

Would 10-4 be more likely to drop golds than like 5-4?

[soft raft]

We have no clue
I literally just said we dont know the drop rates

[blazing pecan]

Alrighty

[leaden wigeon]

You can also get them from guild shop on occasion and the medal shop but the one sin the medal shop are super expensive

[soft raft]

and we never will because that's server side
not like knowing the rates would change much tbh

[leaden wigeon]

I mean technically we could if we wanted to gather a huge sample size and ran the stats

But how on earth wants to do that not me

[remote yarrow]

That would require so much work to do

The only data sampling I know is Research in ECTL's discord

[leaden wigeon]

I not saying someone should I'm just saying it's technically possible

[viscid swift]

There wouldn't be any point

[sharp socket]

this game lacks sufficiently insane data analysts

[viscid swift]

Knowing the actual drop rate changes nothing for most things in this game

[leaden wigeon]

True

[blazing pecan]

You would also need multiple accounts on the task, because you only get 3 hard mode bosses a day

[leaden wigeon]

The only one I think I would like to know is the specifics of is research blueprint drop rates

[viscid swift]

Research rates and cat nodes are the only 2 that would make a practical difference

[agile sky]

do yall give a crap about the coins you can collect from muntion? Or is that just chump change?

[viscid swift]

Nope

[leaden wigeon]

Not significant

[left cedar]

cat nodes being a pain cuz need luck to them be in map, and more luck to get gud drops ...

[viscid swift]

I don't try and stay below the soft Cap for coins these days

[remote yarrow]

It's good to have but once you start farming W12 you are mostly gonna be over the soft cap most of the time

[left cedar]

i'm running out of options to keep myself under Coin Cap

[agile sky]

gotcha, was about to go ham with 25k on blueprint just to go under and claim a measly 2.5k before thinking...wait....

[remote yarrow]

Just gamble cat talents

[leaden wigeon]

Could limit break ships for tech

[soft raft]

Now this is the part where you gamble on cats

[left cedar]

they are running out ... almost all my cats are purfect

[soft raft]

PR7 is coming soon too

[viscid swift]

There's always repeatedly canceling a Research

[left cedar]

cope for a SN DR Ship

[agile sky]

are the conditions of unlocking new PR ships higher than the earlier ones? Or is it the same and its just the mlb that gets harder?

[soft raft]

just the # of tech points needed

[viscid swift]

We know there's an Italian DR CA in the season already

[left cedar]

serius ? who ?
the one with Tri 254 ?

[leaden wigeon]

Is that actually confirmed?

[left cedar]

witch is basically Desuland, but made out of pasta

[soft raft]

yup
was confirmed in a livestream

[viscid swift]

We don't know

They confirmed it in the CN Anni stream though

[remote yarrow]

VN? Vietnam?

[viscid swift]

My bet personally is Napoli

[leaden wigeon]

Oh well better start working on serdinga fleet tech

[left cedar]

if its Napoli, them its literally Desuland, but made out of Pasta
cope intensifies

[viscid swift]

can't wait for Agir to be powercrept

[agile sky]

do yall lvl all ur ships in 112-1 when exp farming? Or do you have ships that are already max lvl? Asking cuz idk if im missing out rn keeping in my laffey...

[sharp socket]

what faction is sardine enpire belong to country?

[viscid swift]

I never used capped ships for farming

[loud rover]

Italian

[soft raft]

italy

[leaden wigeon]

Italy

[viscid swift]

the land of Pizza and Pasta

[sharp socket]

oh italian

[soft raft]

Aye China's now the only faction that doesnt have a Rainbow ship

[candid meteor]

😦

[sharp socket]

america? i thought italy

[left cedar]

Cn still the highest Retroed faction in %
almost all they ships have retrofit

[viscid swift]

That joke somehow missed

[leaden wigeon]

No we are the land of freedom and stupid politicians

[loud rover]

I think you mean lack of freedom

[remote yarrow]

Are talking about politics now?

[viscid swift]

Anyway, let's not delve into politics here

[leaden wigeon]

No just wanted to make a joke

[viscid swift]

I know

Just nipping this in the bud

[leaden wigeon]

I thank you for that politics are to real for waifu ship game

[candid meteor]

what would the next ur rerun be>

[remote yarrow]

Most likely Vanguard

[viscid swift]

Probably Vanguard

[candid meteor]

w 😄

[dense epoch]

how good is seydlitz?

[viscid swift]

She's decent

[warm flax]

At cases like this, Chkalov has higher count of bps, which should I choose? The better color or the better number of blueprints?

[leaden wigeon]

It's most likely vanguard then Mushisi

[viscid swift]

I'd go Chlalov face

[sharp socket]

why are the URs all BBs

[remote yarrow]

Majority =/ all

[dense epoch]

huh ok then is there like a priority in the event shop on which stuff i should grab first i have like around 7k points

[viscid swift]

Because the devs release at least 2 new UR BBs every year since 2021

[agile sky]

how long does it usually take to get a single copy of a SSR drop ship? Specifically yuudachi.

[soft raft]

Yes

[viscid swift]

Shop priority is in the pins

[remote yarrow]

From one run to infinity

[left cedar]

i'm curious to know how they gona manage the lack of "UR" BBs in future

[leaden wigeon]

Just don't try the fox mines so much time wasted

[left cedar]

Fox mines its for who already hit the end game and lack from wut to do ...
basically all SR Drops its about this

[sharp socket]

i am considering the fox mines for tech actually

[soft raft]

that can come later

[sharp socket]

can my 4 oil 1:1 do fox mines

[candid meteor]

cant wait for musashi,yorktown, implac, barely missed those last 2

[remote yarrow]

You can do it in dead week

[viscid swift]

Which is not next week

[leaden wigeon]

Back in the day they were good and we didn't have the auto repet system also Kaga best waifu

[candid meteor]

kaga best waifu indeed

[viscid swift]

They weren't ever really "good"

The same issues still applied back then

[remote yarrow]

Probably yes, stack crossfleets on the other fleet for extra spice

[viscid swift]

It's just now there are even more ships better than them and much more compelling reasons to progress quickly

[leaden wigeon]

But they were useful plus back in the day most Sakura CVs had the same problems

[remote yarrow]

But we are in the present day and there's no actual need to get them besides collection and some really niche uses

iirc Akagi was used in some CM/META fight last year

[leaden wigeon]

I will conced to that

[left cedar]

Akagi U used into very specific META fight in a specific fleet ...

outside of it, idr if Akagi has used to ...

[leaden wigeon]

I think the only good ship drop is yudacchi if you want to do IJN tourp stuff if were going just off usefulness

Man I really mispelled that

[remote yarrow]

She's decent but -2k spec cores and like 60k coins is kinda alot early on

[viscid swift]

So did Enterprise, Saratoga, etc

[sharp socket]

does ayanami has the highest final torp stat beside URs or retroUR

[viscid swift]

Yuddachi is more like 30k

[leaden wigeon]

True but for later OS she is useful for the tourp weak bosses

[viscid swift]

She came after the soft rework of retrofit costs

[remote yarrow]

Wait her retro is cheaper than Sandy's?

[viscid swift]

Yes, much cheaper

[soft raft]

Torp weakness
Just nuke them with the usual

[leaden wigeon]

Ya you also only need one extra bulin

[viscid swift]

Those don't work

[remote yarrow]

That would be Shigure Retro at 596

[plain saffron]

Weakness are currently bugged and doesn't work

[remote yarrow]

I wonder if they'll ever fix them

[soft raft]

Smol indie dev studio pls understand

[leaden wigeon]

Well darn I didn't know that should probably fix my os teams then

[viscid swift]

Even if they did unless you manual you're still better off just running a more traditional OpSi boss fleet

[leaden wigeon]

I play on manual for OS bosses

More fun to watch them blow up to like 30 Shima tourps

[sharp socket]

i need a torp statstick or two for hard mode, do i get shigure too or is ayanami and some other DDs enough

[remote yarrow]

Most IJN DDs have high torp stat so just pick your poison

[sharp socket]

alright thanks

[remote yarrow]

Maybe you got a Kawakaze or something

[viscid swift]

Crunch some numbers and see

Requirements for every map are on the wiki

[sharp socket]

theres alot of IJN DDs

[leaden wigeon]

Shigure is best used with Yukikaze so I would only use them if you had both with Yukikaze being your "tank"

[remote yarrow]

oh not Kawa, I meant Kazagumo

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't use Yukikaze as a tank unless you absolutely have to

[sharp socket]

kazagumo has not showed up for me yet sadly

[leaden wigeon]

Shigure in retrofits had a skill that only triggers if she's sourited with Yukikaze

[leaden wigeon]

I second this

[viscid swift]

She doesn't need that to be a torp stat stick

Also carrying just Shigure would be easier than Shigure and Yuki

Actually not sortieing with Yuki is preferable anyway

[leaden wigeon]

Yep your right I would probably that the -5% damage over the 15% tourp because she probably not gonna be your main damage

[south sequoia]

What? Until now?

[leaden wigeon]

Man I forgot about how bad her first skill is

[sharp socket]

i have a suzutsuki

[remote yarrow]

Decent enough

[viscid swift]

She's solid and DD Fp tech

[plain saffron]

Yes. Basically it uses "new" buffs that doesn't actually exist. Idk why they didn't just use existing one

[sweet delta]

@lunar glacier all 4 stages three starred

[leaden wigeon]

Best used in a full IJN fleet to get full use of her self buff

[plain saffron]

You're mod, go bug them

[soft raft]

Nah dude smol indie studio

[sweet delta]

a full IJN fleet is best nonexistent

[remote yarrow]

Oh I actually didn't remember this since I'm so used to 3* every stage before doing the next one mb

[sharp socket]

i suppose ill do suzutsuki next, since i havent found another SR to use my bulins on that will help me directly now

[visual iron]

if we're only talking about plymouth's damage to wichita meta, which augment is better, bow or sword?

[sweet delta]

Suzut does not seem to have very high trp stat

[sweet delta]

Sword so that your fleet lives longer, crossbow for more DPS during the time they're alive

[sharp socket]

oh nevermind i have volga to mlb

[remote yarrow]

true, that's fairly low for IJN Seems to be the case for all Akizuki class Torp below 400

[leaden wigeon]

Her fist skill gives her 5% aa and fp for each IJN ship in your fleet

She is supposed to make up for her low tourp stat with that

[clever sun]

Can i use the 2x reward in hard stages?

[sweet delta]

Event hard stages yes

[viscid swift]

Campaign hard node stages no

[clever sun]

Thanks

[sweet delta]

3x bonus event hard stages no

[crisp estuary]

[sharp socket]

i guess itll be ayanami and javelin for now

[primal silo]

400/400 pulls for UR, but both NJ and Shinano are MLB.
What to do?

[sharp socket]

410+544+279+364+215+242
+45x6
+2x45 (oxytorp)
=2412
ok this is fine, i can just use ayanami and javelin

[soft raft]

just grab a dupe and scrap it tbh
no real point in trying to keep it ready for future perma additions when it'll take a long while for that to happen

[primal silo]

Gotcha.
Thanks.

[sharp socket]

oh i only need 2200 trp for 12-2 thats great

assuming ayanami and javelin are leveled, does it still look really bad for boss

[forest palm]

feels...questionable

[graceful meteor]

but it's 12-2 assume good gear should be easy

[slender heart]

Hard

[forest palm]

12-2 HM is a deferent matter

[viscid swift]

W12 hard isn't that well hard

[forest palm]

but it's not a push over either

[sharp socket]

the enemies are lv120

[forest palm]

hence "questionable"

[wind hazel]

you should look into this more

[forest palm]

I noticed that as well

[sharp socket]

yeah…

[red stirrup]

i dont see a remove option from the secretary menu. am i doing this wrong?

[forest palm]

2nd fleet would be better of used for a boss fleet, the 1st one for mob

[sharp socket]

its still red with sara

[forest palm]

treat it like the dorm

[viscid swift]

just unselect them

[leaden wigeon]

Yo wait have you not done the akashi quest

[red stirrup]

tytyty

[keen sable]

Why would Sara change anything

[forest palm]

could be your planes, and AA Guns, personally for 12 + 13 I like pure CV mob, and a 1:2 or 2:1 ratio of BB to CV on boss

[keen sable]

You mean acv?

[sharp socket]

yeah

well i have both volga and avp coming soon

[sweet delta]

did you put cats?

[leaden wigeon]

If you have a maxed kearsarge it might be better then Soyuz for the extra AVI and to boost Enti and Independence

[keen sable]

Just get rid of hood...

[sharp socket]

i dont think it makes much of a difference

[wind hazel]

[forest palm]

again yeet the grandma

[leaden wigeon]

It does give airspace control which is important

[slender heart]

Well, the torp needs leveling for one

[remote yarrow]

Poor grandma

[sharp socket]

bold of you to assume i have touched pr6

[tiny gulch]

guys what are the optimal opsi fleets now post-alsace and mogador

[viscid swift]

Mogador maybe goes into the mob fleet replacing hindenburg or Unzen

[forest palm]

mog changes nothing....Alsace is a fun new toy, but really rainbow bullshit go is the simplest answer

[viscid swift]

I run Zwei, Alsace, Soyuz now for my BB fleet

[sharp socket]

yeah ill get them to like 115

[tiny gulch]

no vanguard?

[viscid swift]

nope

[clever sun]

What is the priority of tech box should i buy?

[forest palm]

outside of Arbiter I only use 1 fleet

[wind hazel]

i run alsace mob

[clever sun]

What tech box should i buy from event shop?

[slender heart]

I'd consider switching indep as well

[leaden wigeon]

That's the debate Soyuz or Vanguard it's a pretty even split from what I seen I personally prefer Vanguard Zwei and Alsace

[viscid swift]

eagle union first

[forest palm]

American → British → German → Japanese imo

[viscid swift]

if you don't run Helena, with Helena it's handily a Soyuz victory

[graceful meteor]

Indept pretty good in w12 13 imo, it's just more AA vg and replace Hood with another CV

[sweet delta]

soyuz is all fun and games until you run into a boss with 20s shields and you have to put autoloader on 2+ BBs

[sharp socket]

backline is actually the stronger part of my dock

[clever sun]

What next T4 tech should i buy? I bought maxed eagle union

[slender heart]

Let's move to a thread before we got scolded

[leaden wigeon]

Without Helena you have a bit more consistency not that it's really needed and it opens the slot for more either random fun stuff or just to have a flex slot

[viscid swift]

spin a wheel at that point

[leaden wigeon]

Helena skill not being 100% to trigger

[sharp socket]

is someone going to thread me or do i do it myself

[leaden wigeon]

Would be nice if they gave Helena an argument which made Rader scan 100% and not needing the SG radar

[sharp socket]

just dont wanna double thread

[clever sun]

Im trying to build diego, what tech should i buy for her equipment?

[viscid swift]

if you don't have her retrofit item please don't

[slender heart]

Ping me in your thread

[sharp socket]

w12-2h fleet help

[viscid swift]

either way like I said toss a coin
the rest are all kinda the same in terms of chance getting good equips

[clever sun]

I had her item but i dont have enough print for her enhance

[viscid swift]

then put her on the back burner for now, as I recall you much much more pressing issues

[leaden wigeon]

If you can do OS I would suggest grinding that or getting her agument

[clever sun]

Uh what is OS?

[zinc turret]

operation siren

[leaden wigeon]

Best CL gun if you really want to min max is the Plymouth Gun with you can get from PR 5 research or the core data shop

[sweet delta]

who asked about CL guns?

[keen sable]

Protocore

[leaden wigeon]

Yes sorry

Man was asking about sandy gear

[ember totem]

Then that's even worse because you want a DD gun on Sandy

[leaden wigeon]

Okay that one's gonna have to be explained to me

[soft raft]

some CLs can equip DD guns

[sweet delta]

it's quite simple to wiki or calculate that good DD guns have higher dps than good CL guns even if you don't consider all out assault or sandy's augment

[viscid swift]

DD guns have better DPS and proc AoAs more often giving even more damage

[leaden wigeon]

That I know but why would you want a DD gun on sandy over a CL gun

[sweet delta]

i literally just said

[leaden wigeon]

Was typing before the answer

[clever sun]

What meta should i focus on unlock?

[viscid swift]

doesn't matter

just pick 1

[sweet delta]

wichita and any dossier

[clever sun]

Ok

[sharp socket]

is cheshire the best pr3 to get for the uh mission

not catchup

[leaden wigeon]

Probably

I'm not an expert on PR but from what I know she's the best PR ship from 3 but if you gonna focus a PR you should probably do 4 for Haku and Agir

[clever sun]

This game dont have any good meta right?

[keen sable]

Are they different for some reason?

[viscid swift]

unlocking is not the same as research ocus

[viscid swift]

META ships? there are but they're mostly outclassed or matched by other ships barring some niche roles
and METAs are for newer players harder to enhance and level skills

[leaden wigeon]

Helena Meta's not bad and Fortune meta is good in PVP

[sharp socket]

this thing

[clever sun]

Thanks

[leaden wigeon]

Turn those into prototype cores they can be exchanged for UR gear

[keen sable]

I don't see why first and catchup are different to you

[sharp socket]

yeah so i need to build a pr3 ship

[wind hazel]

just build any