gameplay-help

[little tree]

they are not very good

[whole crypt]

like I said, your ship choices are fine but you need to improve gear

also more levels will help, you can go back to 12-1 to get some leveling done for more advantage

[little tree]

what stage gives me the most General parts?

[little tree]

il just grind 12-1

Im short on medals

[loud rover]

there's even some in the event shop, 900 event currency for 30 purple general parts

[little tree]

ooo

[abstract latch]

Are the new banner woman any good?

[soft raft]

realisticlly only as tech fodder

[remote yarrow]

banner woman

[abstract latch]

I forgot what they call them

True ig

[sharp socket]

shipgirl is official term, but banner woman works too yes

[abstract latch]

Oh yea shipgirls, was wondering what they are called the entire night

[remote yarrow]

The only decent one is Emden but you can just use your tickets to try to get her before actually using cubes

[late flame]

[sharp socket]

also what is the colour spectrum used for the URs background

[abstract latch]

The F something shipgirl any good? The one u can redeem

[sharp socket]

is it pink to cyan

[abstract latch]

What does rigging mean btw?

[soft raft]

the waht
none of the banner ships names start with F the hell are you talking about?

[abstract latch]

Just the hull thing?

[remote yarrow]

Seydlitz ? she's decent, but there's better BBs out there

[soft raft]

#al-lore

[abstract latch]

Oh.

[sharp socket]

oh its light red to lime alright

[eager mulch]

Femden

[abstract latch]

Istg i thought it started with an F, well, thank u for the help guys

I'll continue doing campaign n wonder why my fleet sucks

[remote yarrow]

We can help you fix that or rather find better options if you got any

[abstract latch]

Do i send the screenshot here?

[remote yarrow]

Take screenshots of your dock, sorted by level, leaving out commons and rares

And send them in the thread above

[sharp socket]

also say what stage you’re on

the second part is gear, which is just your depot and whatever you can craft/techboxes you can open

[little tree]

should i push d-X in event or farm for gear parts atm?

[snow radish]

I've recently started doing opsi. Just wanted to ask about the meta showdows that we host. Do I need to clear it by myself to get the max analysis pts for the ship or can I request backup and still get max pts?

[little tree]

anyhting i should change on hood besdied the low gear enchancment

[soft raft]

that main gun

[remote yarrow]

Yes, that main gun is bad

[candid meteor]

i dont think shells stack

[sharp socket]

do you have a twin 410

[remote yarrow]

the passive doesn't the stats do

[candid meteor]

ah

[little tree]

i do

[remote yarrow]

Give her that

[soft raft]

give it to her then

[sharp socket]

use that one its a better main gun

[viscid swift]

you picked one of the worst main guns you could have for Hood

also craft her augment if you can and get her skill leveled more

[little tree]

i can craft it to +10

[viscid swift]

do it then

[sharp socket]

yeah thats good

[viscid swift]

nah, official term is Kansen, originally Kamansu but we don't talk abou that

[sharp socket]

the survey told me shipgirl

probably translation/localisation for EN then

[sudden spoke]

whats another good sub fleet besides wolf pack?

[soft raft]

American fishpack

[candid meteor]

would someone be able to help me create opsci fleets

[sudden spoke]

tf whos in that?

[clever sun]

How to gain eva and FP?

[soft raft]

Flasher, Albacore, and Archerfish

[remote yarrow]

Archerfish

[soft raft]

right
that's who I forgor

[sudden spoke]

thanks

[feral ermine]

Sorry, whose is this?

[remote yarrow]

McCall

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Augmentation

[hot bobcat]

Bench and lock? Or use?

[soft raft]

Bench

[loud rover]

bench and lock

[remote yarrow]

Bench and lock, btw for future reference you don't need to post the image just say the ship's name

[hot bobcat]

Got it, sending it to uhaul storage. Thx for the check

[candid meteor]

what should i get from the core shop

[late flame]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[feral ermine]

Ah, of course I don't have one

[soft raft]

McCall's dogshit anyways so

[loud rover]

+10 mccall aug

better off asking for a refund on that 21k gold

[hot bobcat]

@soft raft what are the odd on W7-2 on getting yorktown? (Im asking this cause im trying to find yorktown)

[late flame]

drop rate is unknown

[remote yarrow]

We don't know the odds of any ships besides the foxes in 3-4

[hot bobcat]

Only the foxes? I know yorktown is told to be in 3-4 and 7-2

[late flame]

do /droprate in #bot-spam

[low juniper]

Does Agir need her FS?

[remote yarrow]

Agir doesn't have an Fs

[steady beacon]

She will eventually

[loud rover]

doesnt have fs

[hot bobcat]

Hmm alright

[misty tree]

Does Haku need her FS?

[low juniper]

So why does the BP number change when you toggle "show amount required for FS" on the select BP

[remote yarrow]

Not needed but it's a pretty good buff

[loud rover]

no, but its really good since it buffs two of her skills

not necessary, but heavily encouraged

[remote yarrow]

Has always done that

[late flame]

haku fs5 gives her more punch

[low juniper]

Man I'm gonna have to get KMS main fleet exp for Agir

[loud rover]

yep, large cruiser moment

[late flame]

main fleet exp is ez
vanguard exp is where the pain is

[low juniper]

I don't even have good KMS main ships

[remote yarrow]

That's how CBs work

[loud rover]

nah, daniel can just run Z vanguard with unicorn carrying them

[low juniper]

This is literally it

[loud rover]

scharnhorst, weser, unicorn, ez

[late flame]

point being flag ship has extra exp gain
tank does not

[remote yarrow]

Go get Gnei in chessboard

[sharp socket]

it was worse

using this

[low juniper]

Which stage

[remote yarrow]

B2, D2, D3, D4

[loud rover]

ok but you can run 3 in vanguard w/o needing to risk dying because now you can run unicorn who is literally the best healer in the game

[late flame]

nvm

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Gneisenau

[low juniper]

Why specifically Gneisenau

[late flame]

tbh i'd just go with scharn + weser + unicorn

[viscid swift]

you don't need to run Unicorn in W12 on safe

[remote yarrow]

That's the first IB main ship that came into mind

[viscid swift]

in fact it's something you want to avoid because it's a massive waste of XP

[low juniper]

Should I just do this since those ships are already leveld

[viscid swift]

no

[late flame]

well as cheeky mentioned, no

[viscid swift]

get a 3rd KMS main fleet some more levels and use them instead of Unicorn

[vagrant panther]

Are the experimental XSB3C-1 a significant jump over SB2Cs?

[late flame]

nope*

[soft raft]

not really
you'd have to +13 it for a differecne but it's not worth +13'ing or even crafting in the first place as a high prio

[vagrant panther]

Just picked up Shinano, was going over how to build her

[sharp socket]

im getting average of about 260k compared to previous average of 300k
the previous setup was using AP guns

[soft raft]

You build her depending on the content she's doing and what other ships she's with just like every other

[vagrant panther]

Ok, so the Flapjacks to +13 would be a higher priority for higher AA zones

[soft raft]

no not really either
I've been making good progress thru W15 with +10 flaps

[frank pulsar]

is this ex mode one of the autoable ones or do i have to manual

[vagrant panther]

Gotcha thanks.

[silk sphinx]

I autoed extremely easily

[frank pulsar]

dont need, i cleared w15 without +13 fighters at all
i even had enough leeway to use some tigercats

[silk sphinx]

alsace bisz soyuz + plym helena jda. boss died literally on the first collective volley

[frank pulsar]

alsace not ready for a few days, ill try with like sushi or smth

[candid meteor]

would someone be able to help me with op sci fleets

[silk sphinx]

make a thread and post your dock. Main first, then vanguard

[cold pawn]

Sorry if it's a stupid question, but what I am supposed to do? It just shows like there is something pending but I can't find anything, I already completed the development of Neptune

[lofty blaze]

Chat is this fleet enough for d3?

[frank pulsar]

if thats your only fleet you might not clear

[lofty blaze]

Okok

[frank pulsar]

try convert her blueprints to protocore, and check if you have other ships that are able to be coined in other seasons

[viscid swift]

It means you can start another ship or have free BPs not yet capitalized on from coining

[snow radish]

I've recently started doing opsi. Just wanted to ask about the meta showdows that we host. Do I need to clear it by myself to get the max analysis pts for the ship or can I request backup and still get max pts?

[viscid swift]

The latter

[dense epoch]

is the event ship good?

[snow radish]

Cool ty

[viscid swift]

What new event ships

[frank pulsar]

emden kinda, the rest are collection/tech

[silk sphinx]

some people barely ever clear their own bosses

seydlitz is a pretty good bc

also very tanky. doesn't come close to UR in terms of usefulness unfortunately

emden slightly buffs german damage

[dense epoch]

uh the current event where you get it when you reach a certain milestone

[silk sphinx]

which i guess is cool if you're making a rather unoptimal IB themed BB fleet

[viscid swift]

Thuringen? She's just tech

[silk sphinx]

i can't think of ~recent (within a over year or so) any purple milestone ships that weren't either trash or just tech trash

[late flame]

aaaaannnd all the good skins goes to elite trash uh collection

but yeah nothing much of note outside of collection

[silk sphinx]

well it's a fairly good event for tech, thuringen is 1 BB FP, emden is 2 CL FP, yorck and elbing are also both FP of CL or CA

also seydlitz did actually show up quite frequently in pvp for a while when she first arrved

[late flame]

she'd be totally trashed in today's pvp though lol

[silk sphinx]

my current pvp fleep has cleared some slightly off meta fleets with like still 95%+ hp left

[cloud fractal]

So, generally speaking, nothing in this event is really worth doing anything with except collecting and eventually MLBing for tech.

[late flame]

yep

[silk sphinx]

uh yes unfortunately

but uhm that's not rly rare for non UR events anymore unfortunately

[cloud fractal]

Shame. Emden is pretty cool.

[late flame]

good news is save cubes and coin for next event, anniversary

[silk sphinx]

I liked and used emden a bit before, nowadays with all the new UR vanguards...

[jaunty isle]

is there a way to farm proto cores?

[hollow gust]

Do researches

[late flame]

i only pulled emden since i has the skin from cruise

[cloud fractal]

I don’t have any of those URs tbh. I’m too new. Started during the last muse event.

Nosh and Form muse.

[silk sphinx]

i think emden is still a pretty good ship definitely

[frank pulsar]

research, convert prints from ships that already fs5
dr ones give more than pr ones

[frank pulsar]

seydiltz shld be pretty useful for you then
for like your second fleet

[silk sphinx]

just uh yeah. depends on your options, so anyone with options probably won't be picking her

she is like what, over two years old at this point? still good for a gold light cruiser

[late flame]

cough non-existent AA cough (talking about emden)

[cloud fractal]

My second fleet has Sandy retro’d Chesh and Helena. First fleet has Nosh muse, Roon, and Jav.

[frank pulsar]

seydiltz is a backline ship

[cloud fractal]

Obviously generic fleets since they’re my first.

[silk sphinx]

sandy kai... interesting. good ship, just gph probably would've told you not to

[frank pulsar]

emden can replace noshiro imho, depending on whether you finished your rookie missions javelin could be replaced by her as well

[remote yarrow]

~~Building Sandy from scratch takes like 90k coins ~~

[frank pulsar]

not this early yea but at least its not rly a waste now

[late flame]

sandy is good its just that she's incredibly expensive especially with her augment

[silk sphinx]

it's always been the cost with her. oh well she's a good ship ig and it's already done

[cloud fractal]

Oh back line I have Shang Uni NJ, and then Al, Shin, and Indep

[silk sphinx]

who's shang

[remote yarrow]

probably CC

[frank pulsar]

shangri la

[viscid swift]

Seydlitz does nothing for you other than tech then

[remote yarrow]

oooh Shangri

[frank pulsar]

i highly suspect those ur arent mlb considering you started during muse event

[cloud fractal]

I also have my random IB back line for CDC for FdG.

All of my UR are MLB except Mog

And Mog will be once I finish the Cruise line

[frank pulsar]

dont bother with mog mlb for now

[silk sphinx]

they've probably almost finished her, might as well

[frank pulsar]

save bulin for ur rerun or a new one

[silk sphinx]

but fyi mogador is a great dd, just not that popular

[late flame]

she joins UR anonymous with Kron and Shimakaze

[frank pulsar]

oh i forgot to ask, is guam worth the bulin if i dont need her for w15?

[viscid swift]

I value her more than Kronk and Shimakaze at least

[silk sphinx]

eh i'd probably give it to her if you have backline done

[late flame]

do you need tank? then yes. else no

[frank pulsar]

i dont have any tanks besides the 4 research ones

[silk sphinx]

backline stuff like shinano/yorkii/alsace/soyuz/biszwei and such before guam

[uncut oar]

every UR is worth the bulin, it's just a matter of who she's competing with for priority tbh you're bulin positive in the long run

[frank pulsar]

backline all done except uvh

[silk sphinx]

but guam is a great CB, one of the best (none are exactly better than her)

[late flame]

i use guam in my opsi cv fleet.. anchorage went to the anti-light cv fleet lol

[frank pulsar]

where do i slot her in opsi then? im currently using ancho agir brest and yat sen

[silk sphinx]

i just went with two BB fleets now tbh, with musashi nj vg

my mob fleet is triple cv for faster clearing

[viscid swift]

With one of the CV fleets

[late flame]

guam+kazagumo+sirius+haku+shinano+implacable

[cloud fractal]

I ended up with all the copies of Mog, so yeah. I just needed two bulin for mlb.

[viscid swift]

Her aa is good for keeping concealment

[dense epoch]

which UR should i be focus on getting if that banner or event drops?

[boreal oriole]

Guam Should be in a CV she makes CV hidden for long

[silk sphinx]

hm? who do you already have?

[frank pulsar]

ill slot her in ijn then, uss has laffii

[dense epoch]

uhh just curious

[viscid swift]

I'll be blunt and say probably all new URs and reruns honestly depends

Aim is all of them though

[remote nacelle]

Is F6F Hellcat from event only? I don't seem to have enough for fleet I want to use - what is the closest replacement I can go for?

[silk sphinx]

also reruns take a long while to arrive, a bit of a premature question

[frank pulsar]

hellcat is from uss tech box, you can use seafang or purple corsair if youre new

[steady beacon]

Do you mean the HVARcat?

[viscid swift]

HVAR yes

BF109G is your closest sub

[late flame]

unless you mean hvarcat* yorktown2 event only

[silk sphinx]

the HVAR option yes was event only, the yorktown II one if i remember correctly

[dense epoch]

oof i should've started earlier when the alsace banner was on rip me

[remote nacelle]

Yeah sorry, HVAR-Mounted

[cloud fractal]

Actually I came here to ask, is the rerun event dumbed down? Like easier to complete and 3 star? Because I don’t feel like I have to run sorties as many times to complete.

[steady beacon]

Ye, event-only, Parallel Superimposition
Just use the Bf109G if you don't have any/enough

[viscid swift]

Compared to the original run probably

[silk sphinx]

i feel like the ex was far too easy tbh

[viscid swift]

The number of runs needed to 100% clear was changed some time back

[late flame]

bf109 probably second best option yeah

[viscid swift]

but other than that no, nothing has changed from the original event

[remote nacelle]

Thank you all!

[hollow gust]

Wow it's like the events is years old lol

[stark quiver]

wasnt f6f drop rated really messaed up during event

[steady beacon]

EXs are weird tbh
Some are hilarious
Some are nuts

[viscid swift]

it was boosted yes

[cloud fractal]

Thanks @viscid swift

[frank pulsar]

yea it was, i farmed enough for 5

[stark quiver]

whats the chance itll stay the same

[steady beacon]

And I've never noticed any pattern in when one will be easy or mad

[late flame]

i joined AL during that event and i only got one hvarcat lol

[steady beacon]

Nagami mentioned yesterday it was acknowledged by the devs during the course of the event itself and they left the drop rate inflated so... probably will be kept, but obviously one cannot say that with perfect certainty

[uncut oar]

It's a rocket fighter anyways so you don't need that many, you'll be fine when rerun comes around with better fleets to farm with

[late flame]

to think i almost scrapped it lol

[uncut oar]

Also bf109 isn't a bad substitute anyways unless you're minmaxing

[silk sphinx]

uh I have like 3 +13s, and am thinking of doing a 4th

they're pretty great.

[boreal oriole]

Having enough is handy for such cases as Wichita Meta

[stark quiver]

i guess suddenly nerfing drop rates in a gacha game could probably mess up their playerbase

[late flame]

time to send a protest truck

[silk sphinx]

also i wouldn't put too much stock in the idea of that droprate, it was a bug in the first place

just... wait ig

[steady beacon]

I shall just count my lucky stars

[uncut oar]

The reason why it was kept it is to be fair to people so having it fixed for rerun would be fair to everyone in that sense rather than nerfing it mid-event

It can go either ways

[viscid swift]

The devs pretty much never nerf something that's unintentionally good for the player base

[silk sphinx]

but yeah, game history makes me cautiously optimistic

[late flame]

yup march 23rd never happened

[steady beacon]

Although we are getting a sub for this new event

[silk sphinx]

what was march 23rd? this isn't about some pvp bug is it?

[late flame]

a certain croc wearing kgv

[plain saffron]

What that have anything to do with drop rate

[silk sphinx]

what does that have to do with anything

[uncut oar]

[late flame]

[plain saffron]

[sonic acorn]

hi im trying to grind 3-4 to get the fox girls, does anyone know how long it takes of gridning before they drop?

[late flame]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[silk sphinx]

infinity and beyond, there is no pity

[plain saffron]

2 runs to infinity

[sonic acorn]

sorry to interupt

[uncut oar]

Are you new to the game

[late flame]

you aint interrupting anything no worries

[plain saffron]

Also not recommended to farm them unless super waifu

[silk sphinx]

no no, please do so, #gameplay-help was getting off-topic anyways

[sonic acorn]

im lvl 75 i just now started to pay attention

[viscid swift]

I would implore you to not farm for then until you are later in the game’s progression

[silk sphinx]

i would recommend skipping farming 3-4 until much later

[sharp socket]

dont farm the foxes, just push campaign

[plain saffron]

They need to be in pair to even be good so you need both
There's already a lot of better alternative
They need to be in pair so hard to slot in any fleet

[remote yarrow]

The foxes are just collection, don't farm them early on

[late flame]

but actually skip farming 3-4 if new to game until much later on when you can actually field 1:1 formations
akagi and kaga are really for collection only

[uncut oar]

Then yeah don't bother with them. I'm 137 and not remotely close to actually farming foxes (although I did prep for it)

[silk sphinx]

you can farm them with 3-4 oil fleets so yep (just do it later, you're not capable of it yet)

[sonic acorn]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm okay i see

[uncut oar]

Please don't doubt us when we say this is a major new player trap that gets asked about every other day or so

[late flame]

they only clog up your precious dock space

[uncut oar]

It's not worth atm, look elsewhere for good ships

[sonic acorn]

is there any stages that are actually worth? im only half way through 6-1 50%

[late flame]

none

[viscid swift]

Farming for ship drops, no

[remote yarrow]

Did you read the newbie guide?

[sonic acorn]

i see where i messing up

[uncut oar]

You should be doing event rn

[sonic acorn]

i am

[uncut oar]

Okay, good. Just checking, you brought up campaign

[sonic acorn]

was just a general question cause its something i saw

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Give that a read

[sonic acorn]

tytytyty

[plain saffron]

Just farm highest, there is however some stage that's good to farm for while getting some bonus good gear/ship

Newbie tips should have them

[sonic acorn]

yeah ive seen some for good gear to ive see some guides on yt when i was bored

[uncut oar]

Guides on yt bad

[remote yarrow]

EWWW Don't watch YT guides

[sonic acorn]

it was before i joined here lmao

[plain saffron]

Gph when anyone mentioned youtube

[late flame]

ignore youtube please outside of maybe #media-content

[silk sphinx]

gph is unfortunately allergic to youtube help, they haven't taken their meds yet

[sonic acorn]

oh okay

[plain saffron]

Most of youtube guides are outdated bcs game changed a lot

[silk sphinx]

or they were bad in the first place

[late flame]

tbf most yt are seriously outdated +so cringe

[sonic acorn]

yea i noticed that too all like 3-4 years ago

[plain saffron]

I agree, my youtube vids are few days outdated

[sonic acorn]

good thing i joined then holy shot

[remote yarrow]

Kimo

[uncut oar]

Smh nagami spreading misinformation again

[plain saffron]

Need to keep my reputation

[whole crypt]

I won't say there aren't good guides out there, but chances are you'll find a bad one with lots of hottakes because algorithm, rather than a proper working guide

[steady beacon]

Is that why Sara ended the relationship?

[stark quiver]

so im 41/50 for ply gun rn, should i buy the rest from shop or do research, cuz im kinda stuck on pr5 for a while since finishing up brest

[silk sphinx]

i have watched some ex/cm vids for guides on gear

[whole crypt]

buy prints then make even more plymouth guns

[uncut oar]

Get the rest then buy a second plygun from shop

[ember totem]

You could have kept your reputation by sticking it to your name

[late flame]

i gave up watching suchi on yt since i simply lack the tech

[viscid swift]

You'll buy them eventually anyway so

[remote yarrow]

The only guides you "could" watch are the CM/EX ones from #media-content

Also GuardianE's skin reviews

[plain saffron]

So mine doesn't count 😔

[sonic acorn]

back to event

[whole crypt]

don't throw memes and random huge ass icons around here, thanks

[steady beacon]

Become a purple then post in #media-content , then it will

[plain saffron]

I was rejected

[sonic acorn]

lmao ok

[steady beacon]

[remote yarrow]

mostly because mods will bonk

[whole crypt]

last video I made was like last October or something

[viscid swift]

It's in the channel's rules

[sonic acorn]

kk

[plain saffron]

There's rules?

[uncut oar]

That's why you see we stick to reactions mostly bc it's not nearly as spammy/creates clutter

[remote yarrow]

Yes, but ppl rarely read them

[viscid swift]

Yes, rule 1 is Saratoga sucks

[late flame]

omg i cant lol

[silk sphinx]

also uhm a continuous problem is indeed insufficient mod activity, which prompted a recruitment drive some time back

[remote yarrow]

We need terminally online mods

[whole crypt]

you could trying pinging them but nothing particularly egregious happening now so

[plain saffron]

mods there's people spreading misinformation in gph

[plain saffron]

here

[stark quiver]

i see more admins online on a daily basis

[silk sphinx]

obv we're responsible individuals who can self-regulate. I appreciate their trust in us

[late flame]

trust

[plain saffron]

back in my day

[whole crypt]

well it's mostly yuki and thorin, and ender coming back with years of outdated meta

[remote yarrow]

Forgot Cleo

[whole crypt]

ah right

so 2 mods 2 admins, perfectly balanced

[whole crypt]

to be fair slow mode helps, and we're sort of no-nonsense when it comes to actual game advice

[silk sphinx]

honestly as long as questions get answered, misinformation is mocked, and people are nice to each other i'm happy

my name is kind of blatant admittedly about the messaging

[candid meteor]

when do i use bb vs cv fleet in op sci

[whole crypt]

there's decidely no real difference, whichever you can better setup/gear

[plain saffron]

see boss skills

[stark quiver]

what vanguard ship tech is most important in yalls opinions

[remote yarrow]

FP and eva mostly

[whole crypt]

the so-called "weakness" that enforcers have never worked from day 1 and arbiters don't have weaknesses
though you may want to finish off hard arbiter with carriers because of BB resistance in last 30%

[uncut oar]

DD FP from what I can remember

[silk sphinx]

vanguard? FP

[viscid swift]

Cruiser EVA then FP

[whole crypt]

cruiser EVA

[uncut oar]

(please do not lynch me if I'm wrong.)

[plain saffron]

for example, if the boss have skill that reduce shell dmg to 1 under 30% hp, use bb first CV later

[silk sphinx]

DD FP is most impactful, but I use cruisers much more frequently, so I go for FP for those. there's a couple EVA for them too

[plain saffron]

all vanguards HP for this META fight

[whole crypt]

EVA works still though doesn't it

[plain saffron]

the weakness are abyssals...

yes they don't work, but they're on abyssals

[whole crypt]

fixed

[plain saffron]

one day they'll fix it trust

[whole crypt]

not like it really matters though

[plain saffron]

any dmg matters for new players

[silk sphinx]

enforcers are the mindless subordinates for individual abyssals in the lore btw

[whole crypt]

if you can't 2-shot an enforcer in the current state the weakness won't really save you

[earnest flare]

How does the oil and coin storage work in the mail? I’m v confused on how you get oil and coins in there lol

[plain saffron]

does enforcer have weakness?

[whole crypt]

enforcer is abyssal

abyssal is the zone area name, the siren is enforcer

[plain saffron]

pls call it abyssall like the rest of people

[silk sphinx]

Sometimes the arbiter has a skill that blocks shelling 50% of the time at low HP

in that case you probably want to use BB first to prevent their damage being cut

[remote yarrow]

Like how do you get coins and oil in there? From claiming the mails that are sent after every maintenance

[stark quiver]

you claim mail with coins and oil they they go in a storage place and you can withdraw them, a lot like an atm

[viscid swift]

Any coins and oil from mail automatically get moved there when you collect said mail

[frank pulsar]

use whichever is favourable
if enemy has buffs against shelling then use cv, if enemy have aa buffs use bb

[earnest flare]

Ah ok I just started playing again, and before I just kept all my mail unclaimed lol

[plain saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1244995582737649747/image.png?ex=667770bd&is=66761f3d&hm=249fa9ba4c3e54398aac49e8bbb0843936d9614d35bcc20ddb13956de46b5e55&

[silk sphinx]

it's 1.8M? wow i hadn't realized

[steady beacon]

Tbh reapply for purple, your content is more helpful than like 99% of stuff I see, Nagami

[stark quiver]

thats a lot of coins

[keen sable]

Claim it

[plain saffron]

is it wrong

[plain saffron]

i have a lot of ideas in mind but my lazy ass can't do any of it

[frank pulsar]

nagami join the dark side
become purple name

[stark quiver]

honestly purple better than green

[whole crypt]

when you claim resource from mail it goes into storage for oil and coin
you can then take the oil and coin out of storage when you need it

[late flame]

and spread more misinfo kek

[plain saffron]

like trying to explain stuff ingame, stuff that i guess doesn't need any opinion. like how new mails works etc

how guild works, bcs game tutorial is kinda shit

[late flame]

and the gems command in bot yeah lol

[stark quiver]

you can just make simple stuff, like how i did, accessing guild shop lol

[plain saffron]

that unfortunately need opinion

i have a vid made in windows movie maker made of all ingame tips screenshot with NCS music in bg

[stark quiver]

and i assume its stayed there untouched for a while now?

[plain saffron]

yeah

bcs it's more like a shitpost

[remote yarrow]

~~shitpost goes to #al-general ~~

[whole crypt]

just post the video and name it "All the things you would have known about the game if you bothered to RTFM"

[plain saffron]

with 29 subs?

[late flame]

and don't forget to subscribe and like for more

[remote yarrow]

I can add spanish subtitles to your videos

[steady beacon]

I don't measure your content by subscribers, I measure it by quality

[plain saffron]

hello share welcome to my subscribe, make sure to like and video

welp let see in few days

[whole crypt]

would explain why I only have 6 subs and no new videos

[plain saffron]

THE ONLY AZUR LANE GUIDE YOU NEED!! (2025 UPDATED)

that was the title in my mind

[steady beacon]

So Nagami does have inside information, if he knows what will be AL's state in 2025

Makes sense given that Sara's his waifu
Or, according to his current name, former waifu
Or maybe that's just a cover to protect his informant...

[whole crypt]

doo eet

[inner delta]

nagami, if you maybe don't post other people fleet maybe it would finally count

called karma

[plain saffron]

i got permissions

[inner delta]

yea i know but then forever you will depend on that

[balmy matrix]

Would anyone help me building a good mixed fleet in a thread? Cuz I suck at building non-faction fleet

[steady beacon]

Tbf building a mixed fleet is just what most people call fleetbuilding

[viscid swift]

Fleets for what exactly

[plain saffron]

it's just one vids so that i can get purple name. the rest gonna be non gameplay related bcs i sucks at that

[balmy matrix]

Fleet building

[stark quiver]

"Heres who to oath!!!!! (new update every hour)"

[inner delta]

then just make non gameplay related

what, why is it have to be gameplay related

[plain saffron]

that requires me to actually do work

[inner delta]

then just don't purple?

[steady beacon]

@whole crypt , you tried the CV 3-strike Harbin variant against Wichi ye?

[plain saffron]

😔

[remote yarrow]

Tbh most ppl would appreciate an informative video than X boss kill since the game is getting more popular

[stark quiver]

i like watching beginner guides

[remote yarrow]

~~or atleast that's what I've been seeing from the Vtuber sponsors ~~

[plain saffron]

and all of it is pink hair

[steady beacon]

I still prefer written stuff tbf

(Although run videos for verification are good, too)

[remote yarrow]

Most ppl don't look for written guides and just go to Youtube

[inner delta]

nagami just don't want to put in bit of effort, like what's the even the point of getting purple, it isn't special

[stark quiver]

most people discover kimo

[ivory crown]

who should i retrofit next

[plain saffron]

but according to gph purple is more trustworthy

[inner delta]

if that's your reason, ill relay to yostar and you will never get one

[plain saffron]

fine i'll go do work

[plain saffron]

[silk sphinx]

i think a good introductory video for Azur Lane would be great due to the paucity.

[steady beacon]

Easy tbh, change content to green, wiki to purple

[inner delta]

there's literally 0 difference

from purple, blue, green etc

[inner delta]

you can do ark royal

but do uni/portland first if you got them

[plain saffron]

joking aside, you know people keep saying "be the change you want to be" or something, yeah that's why, but i need to post in media content to get that first few views so it can be pushed to more people

[ivory crown]

finished those

[plain saffron]

i know i can without it, but it helps

[inner delta]

then do ark royal

the rest of the one you showed isn't worth

[inner delta]

then work on it

[ivory crown]

what hard levels should i do after im done with ark royal then

[plain saffron]

try to get independence from core data shop and retro her also

[ivory crown]

ok

[stark quiver]

hard mode? the highest you can go safely

[plain saffron]

if you get saratoga from drop she's also good, though not that high priority

[remote yarrow]

She isn't really used in campaign tbh, she's mostly a placeholder for AvP for CV fleets

[ivory crown]

i have sara

would like hard 12-4 be diff from hard 12-1

[plain saffron]

she could be useful in boss

[remote yarrow]

Well true

[stark quiver]

no, same core given per run

[inner delta]

people forgot before avp exist people do still use ark she doesn't just became useless after avp yakno

[ivory crown]

whats avp

[inner delta]

parseval

[remote yarrow]

August von Parseval PR4 CV

[inner delta]

the PR ship

[ivory crown]

oh

[clever sun]

Hey when is the daily mission reset?

[remote yarrow]

In 1:30 hrs

[stark quiver]

12 am(?) pst

[clever sun]

So for the global it will be 13:30 right?

[dusk maple]

it's in 1.5 hrs

[plain saffron]

0000 utc-7

[remote yarrow]

Look, when the in game timer is at 00:00 it's when dailies reset

[plain saffron]

i forgot there's ingame time now

[remote yarrow]

The screensaver has it

[clever sun]

Oh i forgot that in game timer

[remote yarrow]

Just afk in the main menu for a minute

[stark quiver]

pls dont stay up till 12 to do a daily

[plain saffron]

just click HQ, faster

[remote yarrow]

Me waiting for 3AM

[plain saffron]

they could be living in asia, reset is in noon/afternoon

[stark quiver]

u right

[clever sun]

Thanks guys

[late flame]

as an asian i only wake up in the wee hours to do pv.. uh i mean exercise

[steady beacon]

Nomis adopts the "waking up in the middle of the night" strat

[cursive saffron]

What skill devs reworked on mogador?

[remote yarrow]

Her Lunge/Red Skill

[stark quiver]

the one where she doesnt do a suicide run into the enemy

[remote yarrow]

They added the "She cannot take more than 5% of her max HP in DMG at once; if she takes this much DMG, she evades all enemy shells and cannot take ramming DMG until the buff wears off." part to it if I'm not mistaken

[cursive saffron]

Oooh thats even better thanks for info

[sacred silo]

Why is my eugen so sqwishy. Using her as tank in W10

[remote yarrow]

Skill levels, not +10 gear

[stark quiver]

not +10 tookit and fire extinguisher, also i forgot if you needed fe for vg

[sacred silo]

I think yellow skill is the only one that affects HP/Eva so ig I max that one first

[hollow gust]

And you are using the least tanky version of Eugen

[earnest flare]

do ur events rerun ever, or do you just wait for them to go into the main pool

[viscid swift]

They do

We've had 4 rerun already

[viscid swift]

Drop the fire extinguisher for a rudder

[remote yarrow]

They rerun a little bit after 2 years

[earnest flare]

ok cool

[remote yarrow]

Same goes for SR events

[sacred silo]

Don't u want extinguisher in W10 tho

[remote yarrow]

You want one on your Flag

[viscid swift]

On your flagship maybe

Vanguards not really

[cloud fractal]

Does putting the Super Heavy and the Type 1 shell on the same BB, in my case NJ, make sense?

[forest palm]

what exactly are you asking?

SHS and T1 shells are a very basic combo, but it depends

[silent marsh]

Anyone know the most fuel efficient fleet for late game grinding/event grinding?

[cloud fractal]

My English, despite being a native speaker, evidently sucks.

My gear options aren’t great, tbh.

[sweet delta]

6 ships who need exp

[forest palm]

a full fleet of 6, oil cap is a thing

[silent marsh]

Yeah, I figured I'd get that answer lol.

[forest palm]

the answer to your question is yes, it is basic mind you

[forest palm]

outside of oil cap there's little reason to save oil because you're trying to progress, so you can't really afford to skimp on your fleets to curtail a little oil

[silent marsh]

True, I just wanted to see if there was a way to get down on oil even more for grinding event currency

[sweet delta]

3 oil fleet for B1

[silent marsh]

Right now I'm just focusing on grinding gear from Operation Siren

[cloud fractal]

Well, I guess I went ham on IB tech points. I’m already able to start development of Hindenburg, not even 2 months in.

I don’t think that’s an appropriate play though… I think I stick with Anchorage and AvP after FdG

[remote yarrow]

FdG > Anchorage > Agir > Rest of PR4 > Ply > Brest > maybe Rest of PR5 > Shimanto > PR6

[agile sky]

when threat lvl for a stage hits 0 and the enemy's lvl is lowered, does that lowers the amount of exp you'd get from the stage?

[hollow gust]

Wait enemy level doesn't lower either

[remote yarrow]

Nope, they just do less damage and you do more damage to them

[agile sky]

oh, guess I mis-read then, whoops.

[cold pawn]

yes I can do that with the BP but I don't have any other ship in progress there

[cloud fractal]

SS’d for future reference, ty.

[stark quiver]

It just lowers thr damage they do

[forest palm]

this may change once PR7 releases, and PR6 gets Fate Simulation (Extra 5 Dev levels with a skill upgrade), so do keep an open mind, and check as that releases

[sweet delta]

Why

[plain saffron]

why so late

[karmic pebble]

Who's better tank

Brennus or ikagura

[plain saffron]

it was before the latest vid

[remote yarrow]

This may be the reason? #gameplay-help message I might be wrong

[forest palm]

[covert phoenix]

Does this one-shot setup for Wichita meta require oaths to be able to do so?

If yes, are there any non-oath setups for one-shotting Wichita Meta?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1253773201352425602/image.png?ex=6677bb89&is=66766a09&hm=b1fe3262c1384f2608982a29918d72f1f39075973d2e40c519536a2c53163604&

[atomic abyss]

This isn't the recommendation anymore

[sweet delta]

all of the three strike fleets can work without oaths, it's just much lower probability of killing'

[atomic abyss]

Latest CN recommendation is swapping ply for harbin for more reliably surviving

[sweet delta]

if no oaths drops your fleet damage well below the two scan threshold, i would keep ply over harbin

[silver lintel]

Is cv>bb this meta lol

[exotic wren]

No bb comp?

[whole crypt]

if you have Yorktown II and enough rocketcats

[atomic abyss]

Depends on which CV admittedly
But yes CVs are superior cos of screen clears

[sweet delta]

exist, but worse rng

[exotic wren]

She deletes front only right? Doesn't do much DMG against main?

[whole crypt]

if vanguard dies you do 0 damage

[steady beacon]

Pre sure she physically can't damage main?

[whole crypt]

main fleet takes no damage yes

[remote yarrow]

Me doing more dmg with BBs cuz my CVs aren't good enough

[exotic wren]

That's what I'm asking ye

[atomic abyss]

So far, most of the 1 team clears are Kearsarge+YK2 variants

[exotic wren]

I'll cook around then

[sweet delta]

just normal BB fleets with mk7 and 3 salvo then

[whole crypt]

I'm just annoyed the META comps are forcing me to change gear out from PvP ships

[atomic abyss]

Some people are using Alsace for the 3rd slot, others are using Implacable

[whole crypt]

there's not much to cook with, if your vangaurd doesn't die chances are you're not doing enough damage

[plain saffron]

that's why you need 2 copy of each ships

[steady beacon]

... Isn't it just the Pearl and Manjuu though

[covert phoenix]

Sorry, what do you mean by two scan threshold?

[steady beacon]

Two scans to kill

[atomic abyss]

2 Helena procs

[whole crypt]

yeh but you're throwing those two onto ships that aren't PvP vanguards

it's not about ship dupes it's about no spare copies of the gear

[steady beacon]

Can promise that actual testing is way worse when you have to swap BB gear around and ALL the PvP BBs are also PvE BBs...

[wary timber]

Is there any benefits to completing a META dossier?

[plain saffron]

the rewards

[whole crypt]

which is why I didn't bother testing BB comps in the end, besides them just being even more cope than 7234/YorktwonII

[plain saffron]

how can you say no to cog chips

[forest palm]

laziness really

[hollow gust]

Newer players

[steady beacon]

Fascinatingly
The reverse is not true

[forest palm]

being a newer player doesn't exactly mean you can't dossier

especially if you join an active guild

[whole crypt]

I actually "split" my PvP and PvE BBs somewhat nowadays, the only overlap is Alsace

[crimson glacier]

very cool

[steady beacon]

Doesn't work when I demand fully-geared cross-fleet for tests

[crimson glacier]

why tho

[hard mesa]

Just making sure, wichita buff is only dmg inrease nothing else?

[whole crypt]

it's only killing you faster if that's what you want to know

[hard mesa]

[flint arrow]

what are those file zones for 0 AP in opsi? worth the time?

[remote yarrow]

They are a one time thing but they give Gold and Rainbow mats

[wary timber]

So.... which ship would be stronger. Helena or Helena META?

[whole crypt]

depends™️

[atomic abyss]

Helena is used more in end/late game AL

But that doesn't mean meta Helena is bad

[lament bay]

how much damage increase is hakuryuu fate 5 compared to dev30?

[atomic abyss]

20% iirc

[forest palm]

18% ~ 20% iirc, it's ultimately a sizable increase

[plain saffron]

what's the latest non rerun collab we got

[remote yarrow]

Senran Kagura?

[whole crypt]

yes

[plain saffron]

murasaki is one of them?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah

[plain saffron]

thanks

[kind slate]

Is this good for Harbin?

[remote yarrow]

Though isn't Crossbow better for the FP?

[forest palm]

Unless you need the slash

[crimson glacier]

looks good to me

[remote yarrow]

makes sense

[kind slate]

Does rainbow torp do anything for her? I haven’t bought any yet but

[frank pulsar]

it does, though imho fumo is better as offensive aux imho
wouldnt use offensive aux in general for most content though

[forest palm]

Oxy torps are overpriced, and rarely see use

[sterile jolt]

1% left, help my mentality

[rapid grail]

harbin has one torp slot + a skill that basically acts as a second torp slot with a delay
and yes, both benefit from oxytorps
oxytorps are good, however in campaign you're not going to see much oxytorp usage as survivability is preferred here (gph) and there (the actual content) :/

[warm flax]

What's special with 533mm torpedo

[kind slate]

Got it. Thnx for explaining

[steady beacon]

Which 533mm torpedo

[warm flax]

The black one

[forest palm]

They're multiple 533mm

[plain saffron]

aux?

[forest palm]

I assume they're talking about the one that makes torps launch slow

[steady beacon]

Ah the aux
Magnetises the first load is the main thing
And 5% damage boost for that first load

[rapid grail]

ah, makes torps magnetic

[forest palm]

Oh....the American 533

[steady beacon]

... Seriously...

I thought "black torp" universally means the magnetic aux

[rapid grail]

oh, that's a special torp gear that fires its torpedoes in a straight line
and it has a slight homing effect
if one of those torps it, it is likely that the others will hit as well

[kind slate]

Also is emden good in a non-kms fleet?

[frank pulsar]

what armour is this ex

[sweet merlin]

what effects do they have?

[late flame]

EX is compiler cv so its medium?

[sweet merlin]

how much?

[frank pulsar]

compiler is heavy isnt she?

[old zodiac]

can i replace laffey for emden?

[frank pulsar]

if youve completed rookie mission then sure

[old zodiac]

aight

[crude kelp]

Just used this setup, Helena always dying before 3rd scan.

Idk, prob tech issue or rng with chains.

[cobalt rapids]

try harbin

[hollow gust]

Ply looks a lot better then Harbin ngl, also half a percent

[whole crypt]

you definitely get less out of Keaersarge without Plymouth but overall Harbin version felt more stable

[sharp socket]

is juneau just a pvp ship or usable in other stuff aswell

[cobalt rapids]

usable as a poverty aa ship for w13 rushers

[crude kelp]

I would say she's good aa ship if u don't have better options.

[sharp socket]

will i use both juneau and sandy in w15

[late flame]

doubt she will survive in w15* though

[rapid grail]

Probably not, you're going to lack damage

[frank pulsar]

juneau no, sandy yes

[sharp socket]

or is w15 much harder to live in such that tankier ships are needed

[hollow gust]

I got 4 kills out of ply , 0 out of Harbin rn

[fickle parcel]

Has CN anni happened yet?

[frank pulsar]

you definitely need tankier ships, w15 vanguard pressure is pretty bad

[rapid grail]

CN anni was just last month. Yes

[fickle parcel]

Which one was JP anni then?

[sharp socket]

is w14 vanguard also needs to be very tanky?

[rapid grail]

Around later in September

[late flame]

cn > en > jp anni

[rapid grail]

Uh, no; 3 DD frontline works there. Even did full lethal clear pre-Laffey II

[fickle parcel]

Oooh tyty! Wasn't sure if the big one was usually CN or JP.

[frank pulsar]

not as much as w15 but having tanky vanguard is nice
on the bright side though dd tanks work pretty well for w14 if you want more surface dmg

[rapid grail]

but you do need some degree of tankiness since it can be quite punishing at times

[whole crypt]

it's 2/5 for both for me with Ply giving the worse early death

[sharp socket]

what are some DD tanks that are available or can be available soon within 3 months

cause getting agir which is my next in research need will take some time, mainly due to CDC

[whole crypt]

in CN dalao I trust anyway

[rapid grail]

Jervis in Vanguard event rerun at around next month (if prediction goes right)
Felix Schultz in PR6

[tawdry topaz]

are we getting the OpSi mist mechanic removed anytime soon? its more like an annoyance than a mechanic at this point

[plain saffron]

no

[whole crypt]

ch14 tanking is slightly different from other chapters, tanky DDs like Felix and Jervis kind of work quite well here

[frank pulsar]

yuudachi tank is viable if you already raised her, i wouldnt recommend raising her just for this though

[fresh tangle]

Just pulled Emden, anyone worth swapping? (Only using the USS vanguard for anchorage exp)

[rapid grail]

no, i do feel the same especially in stronghold clears

[late flame]

well, recon / loggers exist

[frank pulsar]

she can replace little spee
also i would move alsace to boss and move sara/bearm to mob

[whole crypt]

Yat Sen with DDG/Harbin also nice for 14

[sharp socket]

can i also use jda to make my vanguard tankier, something like portland/jda/laffey one for mob

[plain saffron]

not that mist

[whole crypt]

but you'll need someone else to take care of ASW

[rapid grail]

well yes but then you'll be reliant on the backline doing the damage

[late flame]

oh that perma mist within opsi maps?

[tawdry topaz]

the smokebomb mechanic at 200 AP zones

[whole crypt]

mist not a problem if you manually pick nodes for strongholds

[sharp socket]

backline will be hood/uni/indep yea

[inland shoal]

In strongholds there's some red mist that just interrupts your auto cuz fun

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I had Alsace in mobbing for levels tbh

[sharp socket]

i can swap around 3rd slot also

[plain saffron]

they changed the ice tiles and others but left the mist in when they edit the map for auto-search

[whole crypt]

and I'm going to continue to manually pick nodes for strongholds until I overlevel my welcome

[late flame]

aye its an auto-run kill joy.. but then again auto does some weird and stupid stuff in opsi stronghold
so i just manual lol

[whole crypt]

strongholds start expiring at around 162-164?

[plain saffron]

auto is good enough to clear stronghold other than fog

and that whirlpool

[frank pulsar]

do you have other bb options? ship like fdg or marco polo or owari or smth
if you dont its fine, just try to get the twin 137 from gear lab if you have to use hood

[remote yarrow]

I remember once my fleet just went back and forth in the same 5 tiles for about 3 minutes

[sharp socket]

yeah i have fdg coming up soon

[remote yarrow]

Cuz the Siren was chasing them

[tawdry topaz]

manual stronghold

[inland shoal]

That probably wasn't a stronghold

[sharp socket]

ill probably try without fdg, and if its too difficult ill wait until fdg is fs5

[whole crypt]

also not a problem if you stop autoing hidden zones

[frank pulsar]

wait for fdg and use her in mob over hood, shes much safer
if youre using nelson she can go to boss

[late flame]

for some reason path finding in auto opsi is extremely suss

[hard mesa]

Itd be great if they only after boss in stronghold

[frank pulsar]

d30 good enough for w14, youre using her flag anyway

[sharp socket]

boss will hold soyuz alsace enty

[plain saffron]

idk what's sus with it

[late flame]

like* walking into traps

[plain saffron]

it's just few unhandled edge cases

[inland shoal]

What does auto even leave alive in strongholds tho?

[sharp socket]

alsace could go mob perhaps, then ill run soyuz enty sara on boss

[whole crypt]

it doesn't but you can miss up to 4 more fights

[sharp socket]

i also have avp leveling currently

[frank pulsar]

avp is useless in w14

[sharp socket]

alright

i was told to do avp before agir

[silent latch]

intrepid or yorktown

[inland shoal]

Huh cuz the empty spots only fill if you try to go through?

[tawdry topaz]

you'll be manualing w14 for a long while until 14-4 safe 👴

[whole crypt]

the "empty" ambush tiles yeh

[hushed dawn]

Am I missing something on this fleet or is this a manual fleet?
I'm trying this suggestion from yesterday and the frontline is getting FRIED.

[remote yarrow]

Without context Intrepid I guess

[whole crypt]

but even if they weren't empty pathing can skip them if boss node closer

[hollow gust]

Skill diff , that fleet works

[whole crypt]

once you kill boss the other entrance clears up even if it wasn't ambush

[hushed dawn]

Can't get pass 900k damage without Harbin dying and subsequently everyone else.

[inland shoal]

Yeah this is another mechanic I don't understand, everyone and their mother knows there's an enemy there what's the point of the ambush

[hollow gust]

That doesn't sound right, you have 0 kearsarge rld right?

[hushed dawn]

What.

[hollow gust]

Turn kearsarge rld to 0

[inland shoal]

Fleet tech

[whole crypt]

ambush or not I'd rather they just made every node blocked with 2 enemy nodes, movement penalty tiles are a waste of potential XP

[hushed dawn]

OKAY, done.

[whole crypt]

commander XP is serious business

[inland shoal]

[whole crypt]

the slow down from 150+ is painful

[frank pulsar]

what cv rld are you supposed to use for that fleet

[whole crypt]

default is max

[fresh tangle]

Are Emden skins available only during event?

[inland shoal]

I just refuse to call any pure flex serious

[whole crypt]

they can rerun on black friday or later get added perm

[hushed dawn]

Both YKII and Implac have +35 RLD from tech.

[whole crypt]

but you can buy more oil per gem

[cobalt rapids]

daily oil refills

[hushed dawn]

The RLD adjustment on Kearsarge helped but they're still getting rolled.

[whole crypt]

what was CV RLD tech max now again, 37?

[cobalt rapids]

40

[frank pulsar]

is rpg aux or albion report better for ply

[cobalt rapids]

report for surv, rpg else

[whole crypt]

define "getting rolled" because hitting around 1M for this fight is already pretty good

then there's main fleet needing oath and all weapons being +13

[hushed dawn]

I'm looking for a consistent one shot.
Unless such a thing is impossible.

[sweet delta]

Probably Harbin main tanking just dies . Sirius is the tank

[whole crypt]

there is no consistent oneshots for this one so far

and yeh main tank needs to be Sirius

[inland shoal]

But that's what their ss shows

[hushed dawn]

FUCK. I HAVE THEM SWAPPED.

[sterile jolt]

https://youtu.be/HPkMsTNzbTQ?si=qIO3H_LjUoCA1cgQ

Well, we have this, but...

[frank pulsar]

has anyone tried off tank helena? meaning you sandwich ply instead since sirius dies relatively quickly

[hollow gust]

Sounds stupid

[frank pulsar]

idk im willing to try anything that might produce results

[sterile jolt]

Helena dies faster. This is the result

[frank pulsar]

lmao i actually managed to last longer with that, im sticking to helena off tank

[whole crypt]

quyet

[hard mesa]

4 airstrike?

[sterile jolt]

Yeah

[whole crypt]

looks like 4 strike

[crude kelp]

My Helena dying before 3rd scan when she's in mid, so i think that's bad idea 💀

[calm rose]

dunno how you get a better result. when i offtank helena, it was way worse

[clever lance]

Hi how do I find the beginner guide?

[remote yarrow]

Probably rng?

[clever lance]

I can’t seem to find my old thread 😦

[frank pulsar]

i used manjuu + rudder on her and not usb drive

[exotic wren]

Go do /guides in botspam

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[pale crow]

Anyone having trouble login in?

[inland shoal]

Somehow this answer after how to find the beginner guide gave me a good chuckle

[sterile jolt]

Nope

[clever lance]

Thanks

[remote yarrow]

Like clickling randomly until he finds it?

[exotic wren]

no the newb guide is to hope for good rng

[shell willow]

survivability aside how is mogador's damage?

[remote yarrow]

pretty good iirc

[frank pulsar]

iirc the consensus was inbetween ply and hinden

how long would it take to mlb a gold meta if i only do assists every day

[whole crypt]

I'm willing to give the comp a shot but my experience is Plymouth doesn't survive for as long as it did in his vid

[exotic wren]

......so second either way? Amongst the VGs?

[sterile jolt]

Hinden dies faster than Sirius, she's not tanky, and you really don't need dps with Wichita meta

[frank pulsar]

what
i was answering the mog dps question

[remote yarrow]

???

[inland shoal]

That was for Mogador's dmg tho?

[sterile jolt]

Hes fcking lucky guy

[hard mesa]

Double eva aux or eva hp aux on ply?

[frank pulsar]

i ran rudder + albion report

[whole crypt]

he said he changed to report + rudder which should be the tankiest you can get on Plymouth now

[sterile jolt]

Oh , ok

[whole crypt]

when I used that on Plymouth as main tank not one time did she survive with less than 30s left on the clock

[hard mesa]

I ran ply with implac since implac gives ply eva buff, rudder+report on ply

[steady beacon]

Ngl Idk what is up with your Ply lol

[near sonnet]

How to get the other materials?

[whole crypt]

I have no idea either

[cobalt rapids]

opsi

[frank pulsar]

opsi

[steady beacon]

I ran 15 consecutive runs about 2 hrs ago
Ply only died prematurely 2/15 times

[whole crypt]

well if CN picks this up and they think it's better I'm open to switching, but if not I'm not bothering to awaken Shangri-La

[hollow gust]

Using Harbin gets my vanguard nuked, ply is just so much more consistent

[whole crypt]

presumably that Shangri-La is also oathed so whatever

[hard mesa]

Shangri la is basically 2 lucky e proc

[plain saffron]

what fleet is this

[hollow gust]

Tis

Oh wait , shangrila , that was qyuet's video

[cobalt rapids]

off tank harbin ?

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[steady beacon]

Already tried it, Idk what kind of extra tech or +13s I need to make it, but it doesn't look like I can currently do it tbh
Might try later in the season with better tech and eq but right now, it's def not working for me

[sterile jolt]

He did it in 0:00, and said it consistent... I just can't xd

[whole crypt]

eh I can make that, I'm not missing any main fleet tech and shouldn't be missing significant vanguard tech, I could try but I'm just not excited about awakening and maybe oathing Shangri-La

00:00 is actually fair game for 4-strike comps

[hard mesa]

I just lack 1 hellcat

[hollow gust]

That's fine?

[whole crypt]

as long as the last launch is what it takes to confirm the kill

[hollow gust]

If it's consistently kill at 0:00 it does it job

I'll take consistent kills at 0:00 over 1/20 chance to kill at 10 seconds

[whole crypt]

well I could give it a shot, as long as Shangri-La oath is not a requirement

[hard mesa]

As long as <5% hp fine by me

Shangri la should be able to laucnh 4th strike without thanks to rld from aug

[steady beacon]

I just noticed...
That's the Watatsumi research report 👀

[whole crypt]

he said he changed to exercise report

[steady beacon]

Ah
Well, anyway, I'll wait for +13 Spear and Mog gun before trying again
I'm not really hopeful though

[whole crypt]

but if he was surviving that long with watatsumi report instead of albion exercise that's some serious 🎲

I have +13spear and mog gun

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think its that 🎲

[hard mesa]

Isnt watasumi deal more dmg to meta?

[cobalt rapids]

sirius helena laffii make it to 03-00s left consistently for me

[whole crypt]

more damage = take more damage sooner
also no additional durability for Plymouth

also +10 rudder

[cobalt rapids]

just run +13

[whole crypt]

I'm 100% using +13, I just find it really sus

[fresh tangle]

Emden from daily pull and Seydlitz from d3 today is a good day. Ignore actual formation im doing weird stuff for tech and levels but spee has been replaced by Emden. Seydlitz worth slotting in somewhere?

[frank pulsar]

nah

[cobalt rapids]

did u reach w12

[fresh tangle]

Yeah cleared w12 the day before this event

[rotund creek]

Hello, is the extreme challenge is a rerun this month, does the EC give different rewards for completing it again ?

[cobalt rapids]

then u can start hardworking on ur pr for large improvements to ur fleets

[remote yarrow]

Did I just get fucked by RNG? I did 600k and then 745k against Michita

[steady beacon]

Hard to tell without knowing exactly what happened in those two battles

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I’m working on IB tech for FdG atm and combat exp for anchorage

[remote yarrow]

No gear changed in between

[inner delta]

tech?

[remote yarrow]

idk

[cobalt rapids]

scans

[inner delta]

yea ig helena

[hollow gust]

Prob scans yeah

[remote yarrow]

I maybe missed all the scans

[hollow gust]

Also use CVs smh

[remote yarrow]

Don't have the 🦅 cvs

[steady beacon]

It's also been observed you can lose salvos when she's moving
But probably that discrepancy lies mostly with Helena

[inner delta]

cv comp is so much effort, so bad for not late game player

like 700k can just do 2x

[hollow gust]

Lul, the few times sakura CVs get curbed stomped

[remote yarrow]

I tried this and min was 530k, max was 580k

So just gave up on CVs

[hollow gust]

Yeah no surprise,they are really awful this meta

[cobalt rapids]

yea i mean u kinda need a maxed acc to attempt helenaless

[frank pulsar]

i do only arnd 100k more with uss cvs

[inner delta]

need more +13 hellcat

[frank pulsar]

i have 3 at +13
idk why my output so low despite 3 launches

[remote yarrow]

I'm missing the whole BBV + CV backline

[hollow gust]

~~Wait you can pull out the Enterprise BBV Implacable ~~nvm

[hollow gust]

Why isn't your keary maxed smh

[remote yarrow]

Cuz I just started PR6

[cobalt rapids]

low tech, low oaths, low +13s

[remote yarrow]

Just had 330 PR6 bps laying around to max Shimanto instantly

[hollow gust]

New meta reminds me that most of the "helpers" are pretty new too

[inner delta]

the kear implac york2 need oath? i can't read cn

[hollow gust]

Shouldn't , but preferably , oath kearsarge needs her rld tech nuked to 0 anyway

[cobalt rapids]

nope need, but still losing dmg
also non oathed vang means 📈 to die early

[inner delta]

yeah

[remote yarrow]

Aight got enough coords for 2nd Wichita time to see how big is the difference with number of Scans

[fresh tangle]

When are Emden skins available?

[hollow gust]

Which one

[cobalt rapids]

skins usually rerun during event rerun or blackfriday or when devs feel like it

[remote yarrow]

Didn't you ask that earlier?

Yeah it heavily depends on rng

[inner delta]

well ofc

when you bringing helena its always like that

[fresh tangle]

Any of them. Can’t buy any of them atm

[remote yarrow]

L2D should be available for purchase

[fresh tangle]

Sorry replied to wrong person

[remote yarrow]

But aren't you F2P?

[fresh tangle]

Oh god no 😂

[hollow gust]

First skin is available, others are in other events

[remote yarrow]

Oh

[fresh tangle]

Ah right I’ll wait for my skin to pop up

[hollow gust]

This one is buyable, 2nd is another event , 3rd skin just passed

[fresh tangle]

Noooo I want the third haha

[remote yarrow]

Wait when did the 2nd one release?

[hollow gust]

Honestly don't remember, but it came around the time Chenhai got her skin too

[remote yarrow]

oh you are in for a long one then, it just released past event, it may come back on black friday this November but idk if it will make the cut

If it doesn't you are kinda screwed

[hollow gust]

Should be fine , the cutoff is September if I'm not mistaken

Or was it August

[fresh tangle]

Ah well. Plenty of others to buy

[remote yarrow]

Past cutoffs were released before June iirc

[verbal thistle]

Anyone have any tips for the EXTRA stage of this event?

My vanguards got deleted right off the bat.

[dusk maple]

dodge manually. heavy armour boss so use torp vanguard and appropriate back equipment.

[meager gyro]

how many healer ships are there?

[light trail]

i forget, is there any actual reason to 3* the event hard stages apart from d3

bc i dont plan on autoing easier ones

[dusk maple]

3 star stage rewards, check missions tab

oh right, you only need to 3 star either normal or hard, not both

[copper pine]

what does the call to arms for again? next event?

[crimson glacier]

call to arms is prelude

[copper pine]

prelude for next event ?

[south sequoia]

Yes

[copper pine]

so safe to assume its IB event, but only 2 ships so far known for new ones

[plain saffron]

that was for current event

on rerun cta runs at same time as event itself

[copper pine]

hmm

i see i see, since i thought its for next event

[steady beacon]

In all events CTA runs parallel to the actual event

[south sequoia]

The event next is only an SP event anyways, they don't premiere CTAs for smaller scale events

[plain saffron]

random ish question
does CN ever reduced EXP needed per stats for enhancements? the green text at the right side

[steep merlin]

Uh guys I saw the guide in pinned and it says Emden is very good, is she still like that or is the guide outdated? Because someone here told me she was just decent

[crimson glacier]

i dont think i could ever call her very good

[steep merlin]

Rip me I even got her skin

[south sequoia]

Emden is very good, but outside of buffing her fellow faction mates she doesn't do much but she provides good gun damage

[steep merlin]

So should I use her with fdg when I get her?

[inner delta]

can yea

[south sequoia]

Why not

[bleak mica]

you get a lot of white ships just from x3 auto, so no need.

[steep merlin]

Niceee

[south sequoia]

Outside of using much better ships

[south sequoia]

I don't think thats the answer nagami is looking for

[steep merlin]

I started a few months ago so I dont have much besides helena and portland (regarding cruisers)

[south sequoia]

Then you can go ahead, by the way don't immediately use FDG unless you for some reason have enough blueprints to max develop FDG

[steep merlin]

Oh okay then, she is still in development for now

Thank you

[plain saffron]

idk to me 21 ranger is a lot, and also that's not my question

on some ships EN/JP needs more exp per stats for enhancement apparently

so yeah tryint to figure out if it's a bug or intentional

[south sequoia]

Wouldn't be the first time CN has had a feature EN/JP doesn't have

[bleak mica]

hope it was the former so we get apologems

[plain saffron]

yeah but it's not on all ships so it makes me

CN need 20 per stat, EN need 25. there's 75 stats total for AVI
so EN needs 375 more exp which is equivalent to 41 ranger
or 20.5 if you count 2x bonus

[vocal cedar]

Which gun is Gascogne’s?

[plain saffron]

for gascogne? or is gascogne

[steady beacon]

Richelieu gun, Quad 380 Mle 1935

Although, please don't actually use it on her

[vocal cedar]

I will just Champagne’s gun then

[sage marlin]

I've been wondering who would be a better fit for my bb boss fleet. ATM I have Musashi as flagship, NJ and Vanguard. Would it make sense to swap vanguard out for Alsace?

[south sequoia]

swap nj for alsace

[steep gulch]

So Ägir is not upgradeable with coins, only tickets. Is that a thing for all PR4+?

[steady beacon]

DRs from PR4, and PR5+
PRs from PR4 can be coined

[steep gulch]

I see, thank you