gameplay-help

[opal bone]

Im sorry there are too many things i dont understand in that scentance

[little tree]

Under Shop --> supply--> there is a core data shop where u spend currecny there

its in the monthyl tab

[opal bone]

Oh okay

Is this better?

[silk sphinx]

Unique is pointing out that there’s a certain “hard mode” game mode where there are ship hull (ex: battleship/cruiser/aircraft carrier) restrictions, so having a cv (aircraft carrier) would be helpful for that

[zinc turret]

when im gonna need 3 bb ? so far i have hood and alsace now and fdg soon i hope

[silk sphinx]

Looks good.

[opal bone]

Oh Yeah i saw some restrictions in the hard mode

[silk sphinx]

There is an augment for hood that you’ll want asap (piece of gear you can equip on hood as soon as she’s mlb) but it is what it is

[zinc turret]

i see some people recommend me to buy 3 set of black and white shell

[opal bone]

Is it just me or are the equipments for this game super confusing?

[little tree]

its counfusing at first.

[silk sphinx]

It’s like a 6 year old game at this point with tons of gear? There is a learning curve unfortunately

[sweet delta]

Opsi

But not really use 6 shells at once

[lament tree]

The new IB ship is only a SR? Not a UR?

[sweet delta]

If you've been doing research properly, the 5 or even just 4 shells is enough before moving on to the next core data stuff

[viscid swift]

the 2 ships announced thus far are SRs and I highly doubt we'll see a UR this event

[lament tree]

I c

[silk sphinx]

Piece of gear I have equipped on her is her unique augment

[lament tree]

Ig UR's are pretty reserved

[opal bone]

So the equipment in circle are the augments

Okay so second question how do i get my hands on it?

[zinc turret]

mlb then get 15 stone

[silk sphinx]

When she’s mlb that circle slot will be unlocked. Just click on it and you’ll access this screen. Craft it

[opal bone]

Okay so it is just there when she is limit broken

I think i have enough of that Stone thingy to make it

[silk sphinx]

You can also just craft augments in advance by doing Depot > Craft > Special to access this menu with all the craft able augments

That said though it’s fairly expensive? 21k coin plus those augment materials

[opal bone]

Okay i only have 9 stones:/

[silk sphinx]

Well anyways she needs to mlb to be even able to equip an augment

[zinc turret]

well u need to mlb her first so just tyt

[opal bone]

Well anyways thanks a lot to all of you guys

[regal blaze]

Opsi HM center boss help

[silk sphinx]

You’ll get there eventually dw

[opal bone]

This covers it right?

[keen sable]

It's fairly math oriented so in the end not really. The game description is actually rpg and it comes with a concomitant gearing system

[zinc turret]

yeah u just need 4 bulin / dupe to mlb

[lament tree]

Shouldn't they be using enterprise?

[zinc turret]

mlb hood asap !!!!

[silk sphinx]

4 bulins/copies is enough for mlbing yeah

[little tree]

Enterprise for boss

But they dont have spare bullins it looks like

[silk sphinx]

Oh wait enterprise

[opal bone]

Nice one step done 🥲🙏

Aight thanks again

[little tree]

wait isnt PERSUS good as well?

[lament tree]

Enterprise is the only ship I know cause people beat me over the head to MLB her asap

[keen sable]

I did say something about using cv

[silk sphinx]

Uh consider swapping arizona with enterprise when you’re able

Would be a big upgrade.

[zinc turret]

she is extra unicorn

[keen sable]

Yes but uni better

[silk sphinx]

Nah you have unicorn already, they do the same thing

[zinc turret]

fancy ( eggpensiv) unicorn

[lament tree]

Unicorn retrofit made my life way easier

[keen sable]

Don't use hood is my advice

[silk sphinx]

I remember getting Percy from her rerun then shortly after unicorn retro was announced… oh well

[lament tree]

I think my starter fleet was hood, enti and Arizona for the back line. Then it was uni instead of Arizona and then Alsace instead of hood

[keen sable]

Realistically by the time enterprise and hood get to 70 there should be 3 more bulins

[lament tree]

Maybe it's me but I'm drowning in them and I only started playing like a month ago

[little tree]

I just MLB Volga Is she boss or MOB

[zinc turret]

lol i use hood and alsace at 2 different fleet

[keen sable]

You can safely use 2 maybe even 3 sr in beginning

[keen sable]

Mob unless you are doing something really really hard like 15

[silk sphinx]

The game is generous. A few of the oldest players have almost all ships mlb and max level even or are close to it, and personally I’ve already mlb a large majority of all ships (I’m at 98.5% collection too)

[lament tree]

29 E and 19 SR bulins just munching on my dock space

[little tree]

Thanks one more questin do you run no BB on W13 beacsue of all the air?

[silk sphinx]

Just use those bulins then

[keen sable]

UR also reduces bulin load

[lament tree]

I have no note worthy units to use them on

[inner delta]

you can still use bb, just don't run all bbs

can do like 1 bb 2 cv

[keen sable]

Partly also no bomb boats

[little tree]

i was thinkg Berun meta Uni and Volga for mob the Nelson Shino and Enter for boss on W13

[silk sphinx]

3 aircraft carriers on mob and 2 aircraft carriers plus one bb on boss fleet for w13 sounds good. You can also use an extra bb and swap out a cv ig

[lament tree]

I could MLB prinz Eugen but idk what I'd use her for

[silk sphinx]

Eh… what are your choices? Can always make a thread and show dock

[little tree]

The tier list says she not good mabey look some wher eelse

[zinc turret]

i guess i can use percy , sara , uni plus some random vanguard then

[keen sable]

Sounds great

[silk sphinx]

I wouldn’t use percy with unicorn in the same fleet

[keen sable]

She's pretty good at Mitchy compared to portland

[earnest flare]

what’s the corrosion 7 zone in the middle of the opsi map

[tame jungle]

Surprise

[sweet delta]

The hardest boss of opsi

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Arbiter

the end game of opsi content

[tame jungle]

(It’s the arbiter, final boss if you want to call it that)

[abstract latch]

Whats tech points and how do i get them?

[earnest flare]

ah ok im probably not ready for that lmao

[atomic abyss]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[abstract latch]

Ohh i see

[sweet delta]

You can quit and heal for normal arbiter, and normal arbiter has the important reward. Hard arbiter is hard

[fresh tangle]

Only need 150 more tech for kearsarge… that doesn’t seem too much of a stretch tbh… back to EU tech after I get IB tech for FdG?

[craggy lance]

Is it worth it to get blueprints of ships I can coin when they come up in the research pool?

For example

[sweet delta]

A kearsarge without blueprints is useless

[fresh tangle]

Ah yeah forgot about the blueprint part 😂 513 bp’s I have 59 😂

[mighty forum]

This tells me to visit her again after I wiped all Sirens and check all objects, but the store that I have bought out didn't refresh or anything. Am I missing something?

At least, according to the scan. There're these low-hanging clouds all over the place. The teleporter is already there though

[sweet delta]

You're not missing anything, it's bad text and could be reported in #bug-reports

[tame jungle]

The scan is just a standard string of text

[craggy lance]

The clouds I think are just terrain

[tame jungle]

If you’ve confirmed you had enough just go ahead and exit the zone, it’s fine.

The thick red clouds act as walls. You can’t enter those

[mighty forum]

How should I report it, if I wish to? I don't know what it's supposed to be.

[whole crypt]

it's 4-year old text they never bothered to fix

it doesn't matter when you find and visit scamcat in zones, it's still the same stock and there's no specific thing whether you clear up the zone first or not

[cobalt rapids]

#bot-spam !submit but this one is prob alr been reported

[inland shoal]

Usually not (though your img doesn't load for me)

[eager mulch]

(It’s a picture of a 2:30 MP face research)

[ripe bluff]

is there any point to 3 starring event stages

[atomic abyss]

yes, there are 3* rewards

for the A/C and B/D maps

[whole crypt]

[hollow gust]

thats a glass vanguard lol

[atomic abyss]

the power of screen clears (and hel nah)

[spring bolt]

no it's harbin's smoke

[whole crypt]

it surived though, I actually made the kill on last second from 1 more airstrike from Kearsarge

[forest palm]

when do we resort to boilers

[hollow gust]

but yeah keary and yorky is really core for this meta ngl

all the other bb focus comps suck ass

[atomic abyss]

to be fair

would hakunano comps even come close lol

[sweet delta]

What are you being fair for

[eager mulch]

being fair just to be fair tbh

[atomic abyss]

i mean it seems to me that almost every other comp is shit lol

[spring bolt]

iirc this comp has a small chance to kill with 1 radar scan, if you have 5 +13 rocket hell cat

[hollow gust]

haku nano is worse then UR bb comps

[cobalt rapids]

*tbf

[atomic abyss]

i rather be fair than be frank
i have no interest in changing my name to frank

[eager mulch]

ok fair

[sweet delta]

That needs ply not Harbin. I think Harbin just sacrifices a little peak damage for better consistency

[undone plover]

Does the guild support ship snapshot affinity as well or does it get updated later?

[whole crypt]

well at least so far Harbin feels better

[sweet delta]

Give up the nonexistent one scan chance to improve the two scan or three scan chance

[forest palm]

I've heard franks are filthy

[sweet delta]

Probably 📸

[cobalt rapids]

im not sure but i think u get the update ship popup whenever a change happens if not its snapped

[whole crypt]

Sirius is surviving till much later into the fight than using Plymouth

[sweet delta]

My guild support is still using her rented skin after 1.5 years

[undone plover]

Wait what popup

[cobalt rapids]

the popup when some1 updates their guild support

[undone plover]

Is that a thing?
U mean once the battle starts?
I thought u cant update after the boss spawns

[cobalt rapids]

idr but im not crazy

[spring bolt]

anyway the hard part for harbin build is the 25 cl rld lol, on top of 5 rocket hellcat

[spice phoenix]

any BCs worth training/to look out for?

[hollow gust]

well how far you into the game?

[sweet delta]

Why need high rld when you can just use iris quad 550

[spice phoenix]

world 12+ and stage 7 OpSi

[sudden spire]

what does the sonar do for asw gear? i know it lets me see the torpedos at larger range but does this help me survive them? asking for 14-3

[viscid swift]

nothing useful

[craggy lance]

well you can grab Seydlitz pretty easily if you don’t already have her

[sweet delta]

#game-news message

[spice phoenix]

just wanna know for type locked rolls

[plain saffron]

imagine not having maxed fleettech

[sudden spire]

good to know thank you

[whole crypt]

not really

[hollow gust]

fr, especially cl

[spice phoenix]

bro we don’t even know her kit yet 😭😭

[sweet delta]

Wdym, she's worth looking out for

[spice phoenix]

i mean i did say that i guess

[undone plover]

Stigma confirmed kms fanboy

[forest palm]

@spring bolt do you know if CN has a stat break point chart

[sudden spire]

would improved depth charges be good for asw if i dont have good alternatives

[plain saffron]

no

[atomic abyss]

what happened to your hedgehog...

[plain saffron]

use ASW plane instead, rather than sacrificing 500 HP on your DD

[sudden spire]

i have one only somehow

[atomic abyss]

you are only meant to have 1

[whole crypt]

we all only have one and it's enough

[visual nexus]

im running a HMS DD fleet for lab
grenville or hero for last slot?

[sudden spire]

oh we can only get one? interesting

yeah im using it, but i'm trying to look for asw airplanes im just not seein any

[eager mulch]

some people have zero

[whole crypt]

what are you doing that needs that much ASW

[atomic abyss]

14-3 apparently

[plain saffron]

in gear lab

[sudden spire]

no im just not sure yet since i equipped the one hedgehog, im trying to do 14-3/4

[sudden spire]

thats the thing, kinda havnt touched that yet. very much casual here

[whole crypt]

hedgehog +13, asw plane in USS TB/DB section for lab if you don't want to buy with core

[plain saffron]

other option is buy from core data shop

[sweet delta]

Then you won't clear 14, much less 15, with any ease

[viscid swift]

well you'll want to then, doing 14-3 and 14-4 without any gear lab pieces is a lot of hassle

[plain saffron]

how does CN cook fleet so fast

[hollow gust]

they have more people

[whole crypt]

pressure pot

[sudden spire]

alright got you, i'll see what i can do

[spring bolt]

for harbin rld? i only see this. target is 18.4 torp rld

[sweet delta]

By being 20 hours earlier and having 10x the number of good enough players

[plain saffron]

what knowledge does i miss to understand that

[sudden spire]

is the hedgehog best on a certain ship? or any destroyer will do

[wary timber]

Remind me again. If I ask for help fighting METAs I still gst the full rewards ... right ?

[viscid swift]

yes

[plain saffron]

do they like assign everyone a few fleet to test

[sweet delta]

Or 100x

[atomic abyss]

the DD or CL with the best ASW on that fleet

[wary timber]

Right

[inland shoal]

The more asw the ahip has the better

[sudden spire]

got you, thanks

[whole crypt]

what you want those torp timings specifically for this?

[forest palm]

oh, sorry I should be more specifically in terms of each stat, and what quantifies as a meaningful improvement. For example say a stat increase of 45 would do nothing, while a stat increase of 50 would

does a chart like that exist

[spring bolt]

no, sadly

[forest palm]

darn, worth asking

[whole crypt]

I'm using non-oath +22 tech didn't really feel like a problem

[spring bolt]

to match boss high damage waves i guess
yeah 22 should be fine tbh

[sweet delta]

It's the section sometime from :40 to :30

[whole crypt]

18.43 is oath with +25 though

[sudden spire]

so do both the mobs and the boss nodes in 14-3 and beyond require asw?

[whole crypt]

so I'm probably somewhere in the range of 18.6-18.8?

[spring bolt]

gap is only 0.3s i guess, close enough

[vestal thistle]

Is modagor's gun better on another ship than modagor

[sweet delta]

Depends on what ships and fleets and alternative DD guns you're using

[atomic abyss]

also it's mogador

[sweet delta]

If you're using mogador seriously and effectively, then she usually gets the gun

[atomic abyss]

i mean if you are using mogador, she needs a french gear to proc her skill
the most convenient of which is her gun

[whole crypt]

but yeh CN probably has way too many dalaos just comparing notes

[vestal thistle]

She's lv110 max lb

Currently skills are 10 9

[atomic abyss]

if she is mlb then yes she will likely prefer the gun over anyone else
assuming you are using her ofc

[whole crypt]

we don't know if you have a better ship to use the gun on if we don't know who else you're using

[atomic abyss]

there's not really any stuff that'll want mog gun more than her tbh...

[whole crypt]

there needs to be someone to compare with to tell you if the gun is better on Mogador

[atomic abyss]

yeah just stick it on mog...

[whole crypt]

in that case no one better than Mogador for you

[vestal thistle]

Currently running her and Carl with any other kms to do roon exp mission then unlock agir

[hallow kiln]

Can Houston II drop from any boss node in 15-4 or just the last one?

[soft raft]

Wait if you're doing Roon XP, why are you running mog?

[eager mulch]

to level mog

[vestal thistle]

Well to level her and to protect whoever I put in the middle

Also is Hermione any good

[soft raft]

dogshit

[forest palm]

that'd just slow down your CDC progress, especially for a vanguard ship where xp gain is slower than main fleet xp gain

[vestal thistle]

Well you see the other kms I have all 70 below

And I am farming event

Also what about emdem

[glossy forum]

what stage should i grind for DE xp for harbin if my fleet cant clear 10-4 solo

[hollow gust]

10-1

[forest palm]

could just try 11-1

[sweet delta]

Event D1 or D2 or D3

[glossy forum]

is it more effective for xp than campaign?

[forest palm]

D-3 is basically 10-4 but easier

[sweet delta]

exp doesn't matter, event is always highest priority until you get the relevant things in shop and milestone

And D exp is about the same as chapter 10 exp anyways

[vestal thistle]

Is there any use for emden

[glossy forum]

got it, thanks for the help

[hollow gust]

she is a good cl, but mainly use by ironblood fans that cope with her buff

[vestal thistle]

Buff?

[inland shoal]

10% FP to kms

[vestal thistle]

I mean could be nice when farming for agir

[cobalt rapids]

farming is ez

[vestal thistle]

Xp

[soft raft]

doesnt matter
you dont need a FP buff for that

[cobalt rapids]

anything

[vestal thistle]

Take time
Also her skills seems mostly soloist

[dull inlet]

there was a list for which core shop items to prioritise right? anyone have a link or so for me to access?

[soft raft]

Which core
There's three different currencies with the word "Core" in their name

[dull inlet]

currency for the monthly and limited core shop

[vestal thistle]

Which

And why

[soft raft]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[cobalt rapids]

im saying u shouldnt worry about looking for ships that make farming easier since it is already easy if done properly and instead look for ships that make ur account stronger by tackling more content to get more good gear or free stats which in turn will make farming easier by itself

[hushed cliff]

How does one get these gold prototype gear things

[soft raft]

OpSi

Also why are you +13'ing that

[hushed cliff]

she’s my favorite ship

[sweet delta]

Give the better Plymouth gun to your favorite ship then

[hushed cliff]

I don’t have that

[cobalt rapids]

time to get it (maybe)

[eager mulch]

(real)

[hushed cliff]

what’s the Plymouth gun called

[cobalt rapids]

152 quad

[calm rose]

looks like this

[hushed cliff]

Yeah I have 2 prints for that p

[vestal thistle]

I wasn't also were good exp farming spots

[paper mural]

Has anyone been able to 100-0 Wichita META yet? I'd be curious to see some teams people use

[atomic abyss]

there have been a few

[hushed cliff]

took long enough to get Felix’s gun

[paper mural]

I'm using UvH, Bis2 and Vanguard + Laffey 2, Anchorage and Ply, but the best I can manage is bringing her to 35 or so bars

[atomic abyss]

yeah BB comps won't make it

[cobalt rapids]

w12 till late game then u can go higher as ur ships that need xp decrease and ur cog needs increase
usually in X-1

[paper mural]

Do you need CV's because their airstrikes clear the map of bullets, allowing the vanguard to survive better?

[whole crypt]

NGA already moved on though

[vestal thistle]

Which free UR to choose

[atomic abyss]

that and HVARcats allow YK2 to do more than BBs

[vestal thistle]

And why

[atomic abyss]

shinano, because NJ has been powercrept

[hollow gust]

, some switches on vanguard?

[whole crypt]

top on the thread now is the one with harbin, harbin offtank and sirius main tank

[hollow gust]

Well who do you have

[cobalt rapids]

shinano because haku is free

[hollow gust]

Harbin > ply?

[whole crypt]

NJ powercrept only matters if he has a better BB

[hollow gust]

You have the gear? I'll try it tommorow

[whole crypt]

smokes good

[paper mural]

I see this comp uses 5 HVAR's, but I only have 3. Could I still make it perform better than BB's? And if so, who takes priority, York2 and Kear?

[viscid swift]

Shinano because NJ just get's outclassed by other UR BBs

[spring bolt]

Someone tried harbin in bb fleet, it works too

[vestal thistle]

I am also getting agir

[hollow gust]

I'll honestly take nj with that dock, enty is good enough

[atomic abyss]

alsace is there tho

[vestal thistle]

Zero bulin btw

[whole crypt]

if you have 3 swap out Yorktown II's first slot and Implacable's slot 2 to BFG, it's just you'll have lower chance to oneshot

[vestal thistle]

Just spent it on modagor

[atomic abyss]

shinano for sure
*mogador

[vestal thistle]

Sorry

Auto correction

[paper mural]

So just make sure each CV has at least one HVAR at this point, I assume

[cobalt rapids]

no u just go by order of slot strengths/req

[paper mural]

Just to confirm, HVAR's aren't craftable in the gear lab yet, right?

[viscid swift]

nope

[whole crypt]

more like Kearsarge and Yorktown II need USS plane, last one give to Implacable fighter slot because stronger slot

[spring bolt]

Just remember to time harbin torp to 18.4s, the closer the better, to cover boss'es high damage attacks

[paper mural]

I see the comp doesn't have the rainbow table on Kearsarge, but if I have it, then ideally I should give it to her, right?

[spring bolt]

No

[hollow gust]

No

That's on purpose

[paper mural]

Didn't think there would come a time when a BB didn't want that gear. Is it a timing issue?

[whole crypt]

yes

[hollow gust]

I realize I only want 23/25 rld , fuuuck

[whole crypt]

I'm playing with 22RLD no oath, you'll be fine

[spring bolt]

23 is good enough

[hollow gust]

My poor ply , she deserves max

[paper mural]

It's alright if Kear fires her shot before Implac's airstrike, right?

[whole crypt]

yes

[spring bolt]

Btw, iirc you will also need to adjust kear's rld to around 164, according to dalaos

[whole crypt]

which she naturally lands on at 125oath200 with 0 tech

[hollow gust]

If you are making compromises already , no real point minmaxing no? Considering you don't really have the chances to oneshot

[whole crypt]

well that actually depends on his carrier timings, if he doesn't have max CV RLD then it's probably scuffed

[paper mural]

I have just a little below 20 RLD for CV's

[tender locust]

which of these is best to build first?

[paper mural]

I guess I'm gonna find out. About to use the comp for the first time

[cobalt rapids]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Guide.jpeg

[hollow gust]

Yeah you aren't min maxing , just be happy with two shot

[paper mural]

Kinda concerned Sirius, Ply and Helena won't be able to survive, but maybe the CV airstrike clearings are enough to give them the edge

[viscid swift]

get 2-3 Champaign guns first and the Tenrai

[spring bolt]

I believe that's just an acceptable value most dalaos can reach, the real "best" value might be lower

[whole crypt]

Harbin survives better than Plymouth for this one

[whole crypt]

well you can't go lower besides not oathing, since research ship can't drop enhance

[cobalt rapids]

u can drop aff bonus

[spring bolt]

Smoking is good

[paper mural]

Also, is Sirius the main tank here?

[tender locust]

what champaign guns

[whole crypt]

but honestly just glancing at the current timings, doesn't look like Kearsarge really needs to go any slower

[hollow gust]

[hollow gust]

Guess just drop tech to 0

[whole crypt]

BBV RLD leave at 0 until next thing that needs it adjusted, literally only affects Kearsarge anyway for lategame

[tender locust]

ty

[inland shoal]

Adjust fleet tech for each ship individually when

[toxic tartan]

Is it fine to retire all of my blue ships that don't have a retro fit?

[viscid swift]

I would not recommend retiring unique ships

But if you do retire ships that can easily be reobained

[toxic tartan]

Is there a list somewhere that can show me the unique blue ones?

[viscid swift]

Unique ships means your only copy of that ship

[toxic tartan]

So I shouldn't retire any of my rares than?

[whole crypt]

not before you MLB them and get them to 120

[night pumice]

so with the new event, is there any ship I should try to pull or do I save cubes for the next UR, whenever it is

[viscid swift]

None of the ships from the rerun are particularly high priority

[uncut oar]

since this is the first event where I'm active and I've already done it... what am I doing here? daily light as usual outside of tix, get as many points as needed to buy out the oil (since it's a net positive), chips, tix and catbox? would I skip prints if I have everything up to PR4 done?

[viscid swift]

It's up to you really

[whole crypt]

why do daily lights when ticket builds already enough for mission

[uncut oar]

...

[viscid swift]

Do as much or as little as you want

[uncut oar]

I feel utterly stupid, thanks nnt, this is why I asked here

glad you caught me before I burned coobs on light

[whole crypt]

even if you finished PR4 prints still good for protocore since you don't sound very caught up

[hallow iron]

After I'm done with Helena retrofit, does her debuff get cast every 16 second Or 16 sec only for first cast (then 20 second to reapply)

[whole crypt]

you get enough tickets to do 3 builds daily even for the 3 build mission

[hallow iron]

Ok thx

[uncut oar]

I don't actually have anything I want to buy with protocore atm and I have 2 copies of everything before PR6 (with the protocore store bought out for them)

but I'll get the DR prints at least for core since afaik they're worth more cores per point?

[whole crypt]

unless you have excess you can start saving for Hindenburg gun, or start converting to newer series print

[uncut oar]

yeah I'm saving for hinden

[undone plover]

U need to give her sg radar as well not just retrofit

[uncut oar]

oh god. seeing Gascan, Warspite and Saratoga in my SP fleet throws me back.

[hallow iron]

Oo so her retrofit is just stats increase?

Damnn quite expensive

[night pumice]

are hood and alsace off-flag or do they need to be flagship in a fleet

[uncut oar]

Hood needs flag

[undone plover]

No her retrofit unlocks the 16 sec if you give her an sg radar
I just mean that post retrofit she doesnt get perma 16 sec scan
It is conditional

[fervent hearth]

from the current even shop i mean whats really worth would be like uh chips and oil and i guess skin boxes? but for the boxes eventually they will be added to arcade right?

[soft raft]

skin boxes are entirely up to you, and uhhhhhhhhhhh
dunno, they havent added any new gear skins to the arcade ever since they introduced it

[hushed aurora]

I see that emden is in tier 0 but here abilitys seem rather weak. Why is she that high?

[fervent hearth]

HMMM

[atomic abyss]

high damage basically

[soft raft]

DPS and her Iron blood buff
Also note that questions regarding the Tierlist are better suited for their own dedicated server

[atomic abyss]

and pretty nice buff for IB team mates like hinden

[hushed aurora]

But without IB she is not realy that good? I was think about switching portland with something with more dmg because I currently run brennus and portland (R) and I think having 2 CA might be to many

[atomic abyss]

i mean ideally you'd split the tanks into 2 fleets to begin with...

[soft raft]

She doesnt strictly need to be utilizing her buff in a IB fleet to be active since it's buffing at least herself anyways so sure if you need more DPS and dont have better options, go ahead

[hushed aurora]

I could also use san diego but and I heard she can be very good but high investment

[atomic abyss]

sandy pre retro is 🚮

[soft raft]

*Not as 🚮 pre retro after her unique aug but you have to craft it first

[atomic abyss]

i rather split the 2 tanks into 2 fleets and slot in emden then

[undone plover]

How do I reset meta fight without losing the coords?

[soft raft]

You dont

oh wait no you dont loose th coords
thought you meant on a assit nvm

[undone plover]

You sure?
I could have sworn I saw ppl mention it

[forest palm]

for support ya your SOL, personal you just quit

[undone plover]

SOL?

[forest palm]

shit out of luck

actually I don't remember if you can just quit personal fights, or have to just close app

[soft raft]

Yup
kinda sucks when the game crashes in the middle of a support attempt but oh well

[undone plover]

I guess saying losing coords is a bit misleading
I meant with boss hp staying full since I can always continue my own attempts

[cobalt rapids]

have to close app

[undone plover]

Do I lose the no oil attempt?

[cobalt rapids]

200 oil for infinite attempts

[soft raft]

Yup
The game did crash one of my personal fights earlier and it burned thru the free intial attempt without recording any damage

[sweet delta]

Does event map have enemy subs?

[atomic abyss]

d3 has quite a few in particular

[sweet delta]

Does C?

[atomic abyss]

admittedly you could wait for them to surface but

c has the usual event subs aka negligble ones

[hushed aurora]

Also I understand that right that your CA always should be on the left to tank?

[soft raft]

in most cases yes
but some CAs are not main tank material

[atomic abyss]

d2 can have sub elites and SSV boss
d3 has ssv elites and boss (compiler)

[eager mulch]

not all CAs are built the same

[cobalt rapids]

dont look at hulls for tankiness

[hushed aurora]

but brennus should be able to tank some with her swords no? + alsace heal

[sweet delta]

Yes, Brennus is the tankiest vanguard ship in your fleet and the positions shown are correct

[atomic abyss]

brennus is a tank so es

[undone plover]

Was haku fatesim approx 20% damage buff

[sweet delta]

Except swap emden and laffey

[zinc turret]

Sooo what the function of ex stage if it didnt have any loot ?

[atomic abyss]

flex

[cobalt rapids]

cog chips

[forest palm]

500 cog chips

[hollow gust]

leaderboard, and nowadays they have cog chip mission for completion

[soft raft]

cognitive chips, and if you are enough of a tryhard, flexing by trying to get the highest score

[forest palm]

really should be more than 500

[zinc turret]

I see

[strange sphinx]

hmmm should I farm the event or just W12?

[fervent hearth]

Regarding the event bonuses that appear every reset do u wanna clear every stage for every bonus then farm D3?

[forest palm]

event

[strange sphinx]

hmmmIc, why

[soft raft]

event points to buy stuff from the store
like build tickets, oil, etc etc

[glass quest]

Is it necesssry to use Alsace as flagship to use her the best way

[hollow gust]

nah

[fervent hearth]

[soft raft]

none of the gacha UR BBs strictly need flag but a BB will be in flagship position 99% of the time anyways

[undone plover]

They are once/day @fervent hearth

If u do the bonuses and daily missions u will have 44k by the end
U should farm an extra 11k for the 55k milestone nvm

[agile sky]

Whats the exp difference between D-4 of an event stage vs 12-1? Is it a huge diff or nah?

[soft raft]

D4 is about as good as W10-11 in terms of XP and gold but at the same time is the best source of event points

[cobalt rapids]

all d stages are oilcaped so prob fine d1-d3, idk about low costing others
altho there isnt much to farm so SP + d1-d3/day should be enough

[fervent hearth]

ahh i see okok

EZ

[undone plover]

Wait my bad this is a rerun
U dont need 55k

[fervent hearth]

o

[undone plover]

~~where are my plates ~~

[fervent hearth]

i alr got the chips i just want the oil and skin boxes

[cobalt rapids]

ye no real point beyond 15k

[fervent hearth]

beyond 15k would just be stuff from shop ig or the ship in the shop

[cobalt rapids]

if need seydlitz then 8k extra

[agile sky]

Assuming u dont die, how many times could you run 12-1 on repeat before one of ur ships gets tired and lowers affinity?

[cobalt rapids]

shop should be just chips + cats + oil + tickets

[undone plover]

Augment cores as well if u are a fan of special augments but it is not the highest prio. Nvm this event also doesnt have augment cores

[soft raft]

like roughly 6(?) batches of three runs with 2x plans from what I vaugely remember
possibly up to 9 instead of 6 but I didnt push my luck much

[undone plover]

Is the 55k milestone for gold plates a new addition?
Looks like og rondo didn’t have it

[soft raft]

yeah it was added sometime after Rondo

[hushed aurora]

I maxed my dormspace. for safety I dont get Training slots but recovery slot for the mood of the ships with second floor right?

[soft raft]

you get the 3rd dorm slot (And ONLY that, no more other spots) and 2nd floor yes
Mainly for if you grind alot since 3rd dorm slot + 2nd floor is enough spots for a full fleet

[forest palm]

no more than that

[hushed aurora]

But you can buy second floor only with gems?

[inland shoal]

Yes

[soft raft]

you can only use gems to buy 2nd floor

[eager mulch]

I got more than that is my account bricked?

[inland shoal]

Best to do a fresh start on a new server

[eager mulch]

[remote yarrow]

I got 6 slots time to delete account

[agile sky]

If i got a lvl 1 ship id like to exp farm in 12-1, how far should i first take them with exp books?

What lvl is typically considered good enough for a endgame-ready ship to stop exp farming with?

[remote yarrow]

1. 70+
2. If you consider endgame a ship used in W15, 125

[eager mulch]

what is endgame

[remote yarrow]

That avengers movie

[silk sphinx]

70-90 for w12 farming. If you’re at the stage where you have been farming a substantial number of 120s then you’ll have quite a bit of experience book income

[remote yarrow]

So I'm using this for Michita fight and I do about 42~45% every fight is there any room for improvement for atleast a 2 shot?

[fresh tangle]

Are blue iris tech boxes worth buying in the shop?

[silk sphinx]

45% uh I just went with a triple bb fleet with Helena

[remote yarrow]

Who do I replace for Helena?

And if it still doesn't work I might just go for a 3BB fleet, just wanted to try 3CV

[silk sphinx]

Tenrai on light hm oh well

[viscid swift]

probably Azuma

[remote yarrow]

Does Nano's 3 IJN thingy not matter then?

[silk sphinx]

you want someone with manjuu, I figure Guam is fine for that

[remote yarrow]

[silk sphinx]

I’d honestly just swap to bb fleet, get rid of Azuma and use stuff like laffii or anchorage

[remote yarrow]

Yeah I gonna give it one more try getting Helena in, if that doesn't work I might just change to BB

[undone plover]

enty is probably better than the IJN duo tbh
I am also getting sub 50% with them

[silk sphinx]

Asides, your plane setup isn’t great for light, I do know you don’t have yorkii though

[obtuse nebula]

Does isuzu is a demon? (like ayanami)

[silk sphinx]

Wuzzat mean

[hushed aurora]

I have 7 Universal Bullies. Is it worth it to build a good purple unit for second fleet so the bullies dont take slots or should I keep them? And if use them I was thinking about javalin or indi

[silk sphinx]

You are in #gameplay-help not #al-general

[remote yarrow]

I guess she is? But how is this gameplay question

[obtuse nebula]

oops pardon me :/

[silk sphinx]

Sure you can spend the bulins on someone, purple bulins aren’t hard to come by anyways

[undone plover]

if u are at a point where u need a second fleet (ch 9+) and have MLB every ship in your first fleet u can use em sure
cant say if javelin is the best choice tho without seeing your dock

how do I make ply survive without having the albion thingy....? any ideas 🙏

[silk sphinx]

Vs wichiM?

She’ll die regardless

[undone plover]

I just need her to survive 5-6 seconds more

[silk sphinx]

Use anchorage and pearl on someone or something ig

[hushed aurora]

I am in Chapter 11-1 now with these 2 fleets mainly playing with fleet 1 but then I have other people telling me here to focus on 1 even though I max lb the whole fleet.

[soft raft]

yikes that 2nd fleet is rough
Hood is currently hard whiffing half of her barrage all the time and Indianapolis is complete doshit

[undone plover]

ok send hood to mob and alsace to boss
u must have a better ship than indianapolis also

[eager mulch]

you mean you don’t like putting the squishiest ship in the tank position?

[silk sphinx]

The uh one fleet thing is really only for very early game or when you have few good ships

You might be able to afford a second fleet, but rn your second is bad

[viscid swift]

well now is the time to focus on getting a 2nd fleet up and going

[undone plover]

post your dock in a thread
also how many gold bulins do u have?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah BB was way better the CV cope is over (used to do 580k with CV)

[fervent hearth]

does every stage event wise have oil cap?

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

only the D stages

[fervent hearth]

oh i see then getting every bonus seems sus no?

or only getting D stage bonus

[silk sphinx]

Hm? Just use 1:1 fleets

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't say so
if you can do it cheaply enough it's quite worthwhile

[silk sphinx]

Not for “new players” though

For example I use a 4-5 oil fleet for stages A1 to B2

[viscid swift]

already over 15k just from 2 days worth of daily bonuses

[fervent hearth]

na i just have the new player name thing bec goose has it om

i just wanna get enough for all the skin boxes KEK

[remote yarrow]

Are you doing C/D 1:1?

[silk sphinx]

I could guess, but many old players still have poorly built ships

[viscid swift]

yes

[silk sphinx]

C yes, D no for me

[stark quiver]

What ships

[silk sphinx]

Ranger + cassin/downes

Everything lb0, lv70. Second fleet chock full of crossfleet

[stark quiver]

I just use uni + first dd I see

[silk sphinx]

Costs like 3-4 times the oil

But fair enough

[stark quiver]

Ima level up a ranger cassindowns fleet actually

Probably better for my quickly depleting oil

[silk sphinx]

Honestly legit not a bad investment

[soft raft]

what's the details on that strat again?

[silk sphinx]

Used it for grabbing event star bonuses, war archive ship farming, early A-B map clearing… saves a lot of oil long term

[soft raft]

besides that
wasnt it 0LB or is MLB fine

Totally not looking at my retrofitted RNGer rn

[silk sphinx]

Just 0 lb cvl (bogue or ranger per example) plus cassin downes

[stark quiver]

I have a mlb 120 ranger for experimental purposes

[silk sphinx]

Everything lb0, lv70. Lbing even once is a guaranteed +1 oil cost at minimum

[stark quiver]

Now I just need to actually keep a ranger

[soft raft]

[silk sphinx]

A lv120 ranger is 9 oil. A lv1 ranger lb0 is I think 2 oil

[eager mulch]

a 0lb ranger below lv34 is 2 oil

[silk sphinx]

There’s a breakpoint at around lv33 where it goes to +3 yea

Forgot if it’s 33 or 32 that it’s 3 oil cost

[eager mulch]

34

[remote yarrow]

And what do you do after that retire/enhance?

[eager mulch]

deadge

[silk sphinx]

I’m lazy, I just kept my 3 oil lv70 ranger cv

Some intense people will retire once she hits lv34 though

[fervent hearth]

so basically jus 1:1 grey ships on the none oil cap stages

[silk sphinx]

👍

[fervent hearth]

pog i thank you comrade

[silk sphinx]

Lb0 though is key

[fervent hearth]

oh huh

i mean its less then like 100 oil max lb no?

or a bit more tiny tiny

[silk sphinx]

? No comprendo

[fervent hearth]

so like uh i have them max LB is that ok tho? since u said well lb0 is key?

[silk sphinx]

Well once again the whole point is to minimize oil expenditure

[eager mulch]

mlb defeats the whole point of 4 oil

[remote yarrow]

100 oil max LB? Not even a full MLB fleet uses that much per battle

[fervent hearth]

my brian hurts

[silk sphinx]

Max lb is many times as costly

[eager mulch]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Oil_Cost

[silk sphinx]

Suppose you had a max lb retrofitted cassin at lv80. She would cost 7 oil

[fervent hearth]

[silk sphinx]

A lb0 cassin would cost 1 oil. And the entire point of the strat is to minimize oil expenditure

[fervent hearth]

1 oil HOLY

i now know the secret

[soft raft]

Ah just checked, my RNGr is already 9 cost at lvl 83
Oh well

I aint prob gonna use this strat outside of intial clears then, but 12 oil defo better than the 26 I was expending for intial 1:1 clears

[silk sphinx]

You can just use a random drop lv1 ranger

[fervent hearth]

lvl 1 lives?

[silk sphinx]

Functionally they’ll still deal crap dmg won’t make a difference

[fervent hearth]

with cross fleet help ye

[silk sphinx]

Most of the time.

[eager mulch]

I think max oil possible for a surface fleet is 103

[silk sphinx]

My preferred crossfleet team though… uvh soyuz yorkii, unzen guam shima

Idk what others use though

[fervent hearth]

[hushed aurora]

I find nothing how good seydlitz is. What is she good in?

[silk sphinx]

Uvh and soyuz and musashi have great crossfkeets, uvh’s is especially good for interception

[remote yarrow]

[silk sphinx]

She’s just generally a good gold bb but she’s very resilient/resists death

[fervent hearth]

is gear needed on them to make the cross fleet stronk or na

[sweet delta]

Mid by todays standards

[silk sphinx]

In the past she featured in some t0/1 fleets in pvp because she wouldn’t die and could soak dmg for the others

[silk sphinx]

Just fp/trp stat, whatever stat that goes into dmg calculation for their barrages

The difference is minimal though if you optimize though so I just keep them in the gear I usually use Soyuz or shimakaze in for example

[stark quiver]

What’s the best cross fleet fleet

[silk sphinx]

I do play pvp so that means pvp gear on soyuz and shima

[eager mulch]

toss in subs and it becomes 135

[sweet delta]

What kind of fat subs are you using

[silk sphinx]

^

Yorkii/shinano/imp cross fleets are kind of bad, but I want air supremacy

[eager mulch]

minato aqua desu

[fervent hearth]

wait now it costing me 42 oil

[eager mulch]

my calcs are wrong

[eager mulch]

127 oil theoretical max

[sweet delta]

The wiki is wrong, aqua costs 7 oil at max level

[eager mulch]

damn, why is the wiki always wrong

[remote yarrow]

Blame Nagami

[eager mulch]

al is pain

[fervent hearth]

ah i see so specifically those two units

[silk sphinx]

[fervent hearth]

NA we dont read mb

[sweet delta]

They use Z20 with mog gun nowadays

Cassin has better tank and AA, but Z20 has better damage

[silk sphinx]

They being cn?

[eager mulch]

who else would they be

[silk sphinx]

Cn is generally pretty fond of IB wasn’t it, or was it more EN… oh well

[sweet delta]

No fond allowed, only fax

[inland shoal]

I thought Cassin used less oil?

[silk sphinx]

also base 1 apparently

[sweet delta]

1 is not less than 1

[eager mulch]

1 is 1

[rare summit]

[inland shoal]

So you gotta swap at what lvl then?

[silk sphinx]

idk, i'm guessing they're both still 1 oil at lv70 lb0

i guess I could raise another z20 to compare dmg

[sweet delta]

Fortunately, Z20 drops from A maps this rerun

[inland shoal]

Yeah I misremembered some stuff

[cobalt rapids]

is there a higher ceiling than sirius helena laffii for eagles

[silk sphinx]

uh cleveland theoretically

[sweet delta]

Disregarding survival? Drop laffii

[cobalt rapids]

not disregarding survival

[eager mulch]

regarding survival

[sweet delta]

Depends on content , smh you should know this

[cobalt rapids]

michita

[sweet delta]

If ceiling means one in a million, consider your auto to dodge the dangerous attacks and use Cleve indeed

[undone plover]

is laffey better than ply?

[silk sphinx]

she's much more likely to live longer

[eager mulch]

I don’t think laffey is better than ply

[silk sphinx]

actually that was bad english. she's likely to live longer

[inland shoal]

(double comparative)

It's technically not wrong, Ply has 0% chance to live longer than Ply , so Laffii is certainly more likely to live longer

[sweet delta]

[cobalt rapids]

smh my head

[remote yarrow]

What are we talking about?

[eager mulch]

ships

[stark quiver]

how to get drake cat

[cobalt rapids]

played during tempesta

[silk sphinx]

wait for rerun of tempesta event

[stark quiver]

[silk sphinx]

the cat doesnt matter for the low oil comp though

[eager mulch]

some people who played during tempesta didn’t get Drake cat

[cobalt rapids]

(real)

[silk sphinx]

in that case they should've played more to have a higher chance

[stark quiver]

how did u obtain it, also was base skill flame

[silk sphinx]

the tempesta cats all have fixed talents

[eager mulch]

played during tempesta, all Drake cats are made equal

[silk sphinx]

i think yeah both tempesta SR cats have flame

[stark quiver]

bruh, i shouldve played

i just crippled myself

[eager mulch]

some people who played during tempesta didn’t get Drake cat

[covert vector]

are FDG and Hakuryuu still good PR ships or should I go for some other ship?

[eager mulch]

I think Drake cat was event shop

[remote yarrow]

~~I got 100 SR Cats boxes cuz I'm still waiting for cat rework ~~

[eager mulch]

rainbow good

[cobalt rapids]

u can potentially get better cats than drake anyway
they were welfare for non cat enthusiasts anyway

[stark quiver]

rng it is then, time to whale some boxes, when tempesta rerun, im guessing in 2 years

[cobalt rapids]

im not sure what u mean by whale boxes for tempesta
they were fixed rewards, u didnt have to open boxes for em

[silk sphinx]

damn. i don't have the tales from the count's castle event done. Do those events rerun?

[sweet delta]

Haku still appears in various top-end endgame fleets. FdG is outclassed by most other rainbow BBs but is very accessible and permanently available

[stark quiver]

no i meant as in wahle some cat boxes, not tempesta

[cobalt rapids]

cruise pass

[sweet delta]

What could be more important from cruise pass than the gear skins?

[cobalt rapids]

nothing

[remote yarrow]

Can Foch Meta use Foch skins?

Cuz I just noticed I got the one from past cruise pass rotting in my collection

[silk sphinx]

uh meta versions can't use their normal versions' skins

[remote yarrow]

Well shit

[silk sphinx]

they're also completely different ships in the lore, unlike muse or type II/zwei ships

[inland shoal]

I mean idk, Yorkii is not exactly York cuz York is ded

[stark quiver]

incarnation of york

[forest palm]

lore wise it's still the same York

[fervent hearth]

quick question both ur units 1:! on stages C stay healthy no? im having some survival issues

[soft raft]

This is the part where you spam cross fleet barrages

[sweet delta]

level 70 0lb ships do indeed have some problems in C

[fervent hearth]

[fervent hearth]

i mean even so its gonna be a bit rough no?

[earnest flare]

is yorkii worth using ur bulin on

[cobalt rapids]

yes but mby not ur first prio depending on what u have

[silk sphinx]

on C stages you just use unicorn + ddg/laffii for example

[sweet delta]

Uni ddg is good through D3 lethal

And SP

and EX with 🕹️ ?

[warm flax]

yeah cuz it doesn't cover the screen when airstriking

[soft raft]

Gacha UR Gud
Only question is 1) What other URs do you have and 2) If you have any others, how close are they to MLB?

[calm cradle]

Is the UR pity thing capped at 400? Or can I continue earning points without redeeming?

[cobalt rapids]

capped at 400

with an annoying pop up ontop

[calm cradle]

Alrighty, thanks 👍

[earnest flare]

plus kronshtadt no lb and yorkii with 1 dupe

[soft raft]

Yk2 > Kron

[cobalt rapids]

mby skip kron

[fervent hearth]

After farming all the bonuses on event stages is it worth to keep farming D3 or wait until reset or would it depend on how much you want to buy from the shop?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on how much u wanna buy but dailies should be more than enough

[fervent hearth]

Noted ye I just need like

8k points for the skin boxes left kek

[sinful elk]

Chat after i got tenrai what gear should i focus on next

[cobalt rapids]

2nd tenrai

[sinful elk]

[remote yarrow]

You should get 50bps from Research itself and 50 bps from protocore shop

[cobalt rapids]

if u got spare protocores after 3 champy and 50 tenrai bps then u can buy ply gun > 457 with protocores

[sinful elk]

i was thinking about ply gun since my cl guns are trash

Also does seattle gun worth crafting

[cobalt rapids]

nop

[soft raft]

do you not have 155 Kai
or at least alot of regular 155s laying around

[sinful elk]

I have kai but only one

[compact gulch]

so i am looking at the unit guide that shows suggested gear to equip i am looking at prinz heinrich i am stuck between what would be best for where i am at in the game which is 9-1 i have the twin 203 sr, the triple 203 elite and the triple 283 rare which would be best?

[cobalt rapids]

twin 203 skc

[eager mulch]

there’s a lot of twin/triple 203s

[forest palm]

it is too costly to craft, the cheaper option is the 155 Kai which boasts similar performance

[compact gulch]

thanks ill go with that.

[sinful elk]

Hmm i guess ill do that since i want to use her as dps to replace helena

[cobalt rapids]

how does a gun replace a ship

[forest palm]

getting a bit of whiplash from this statement, but did you mean Plymouth's gun specifically the one you have on her

[eager mulch]

is it wrong to assume you should have ply gun before ply

[forest palm]

don't know quite honestly

[cobalt rapids]

protocore minmaxers would get plygun earlier

protocore non disasters should get plygun before d30 ply

[sinful elk]

I am half way for ply gun but what i mean is that helena kinda lack damage for me when the fleet fight against an enforce that have healing thingy

[eager mulch]

helena doesn’t do a lot of damage

[hollow gust]

Ply gun is for ply

[forest palm]

someone needs to learn about RDPS

[sinful elk]

[eager mulch]

Helena’s personal damage is quite sad

[forest palm]

it's nothing that bad

it's not like JDA shooting peas

[eager mulch]

sad when I compare her to burg

[cobalt rapids]

helena is the number 1 pick to increase ur dmg to try to oneshot stuff like zombies

[forest palm]

if you're struggling against zombies that's more of a main fleet issue I feel

unless you're the unfortunate soul that gets the null damage mod along with zombie

[eager mulch]

the issue is that helena doesn’t personally outdamage the zombie heal

[cobalt rapids]

unplayable

[thorny basalt]

who's a suitable replacement for Sirius against Wichita if I don't have her at 125?

[cobalt rapids]

why not lvl her

[thorny basalt]

I have been but she's not 125, she's only 121 so not good enough

[cobalt rapids]

anyway she can die but dying earlier means worse runs

[forest palm]

no one quite does what Sirus does

[thorny basalt]

actually my harbin isn't 125 either but she survives better since she's in off tank slot lol

[eager mulch]

121 -> 125 isn’t that much

[sinful elk]

I don't see much issue with it though

[eager mulch]

I do

[sinful elk]

[soft raft]

Firecrest!?

[compact gulch]

i dont see little friedrich on the guide for gear. does anyone have a guide on her gear?

[cobalt rapids]

no more +ing random stuff above +10

[hollow gust]

copy her mother

[thorny basalt]

I did one battle with the sirius helena harbin lineup and then another where I threw laffey 2 in place of sirius and I did better the second time simply because my vanguard survived to the end, maybe that's my call

[soft raft]

ECTL hasnt update in a while Typical BB stuff
Not like you'd be using her anyways unless you're fresh new

[eager mulch]

who’s fresh new

[compact gulch]

working on getting the mother by aquiring roon first so might have to use her till then lol

i am freshes newish

[hollow gust]

well shes not beating ships like nelson

[sinful elk]

Is firecrest that bad

[soft raft]

Its only pratical use is to be crafted into Wyvern, nothing but

[compact gulch]

is nelson the better play? i have her just havent upgarded her or built her.

[hollow gust]

[soft raft]

Yee
Hood too if you have her (or can get her)

[sinful elk]

so should i change back to using barracuda

[cobalt rapids]

firecrest is just a gold cuda
but try to +10 all ur offensive gear and if that doesnt work then save 4 airstrikes before zombie and even wait helena scan

[eager mulch]

this implies helena in mob fleet

[cobalt rapids]

i assumed its an all fleet

[eager mulch]

opsi guide in the works soon (real)

[sinful elk]

[soft raft]

Big if true

[eager mulch]

I’ll work on it after my vacation

have to attend the wedding of a cousin I’ve never met

[stark quiver]

for the cat box speed ups, where can i get them

[soft raft]

That's a thing?

[cobalt rapids]

comforts

[soft raft]

oh yeah those things

[thorny basalt]

don't you get those by doing the comfort thing every day?

[sinful elk]

Does alsace debuff works along with helena debuff

[cobalt rapids]

yes they stack multi, both are injureRatio

[compact gulch]

i can get hood. so question is hood or nelson?

[soft raft]

You'd eventually want to raise both so you have a flagship for both fleets when you get around to working on a 2nd fleet

[compact gulch]

ah makes sense ill put both in dorm and build them

so idk if its a bug but i cant collect oil through mail anymore? and i am under my limit as well?

[silver lintel]

Oil/coin goes to storage 1st, then u witdraw from there

[remote yarrow]

Check out the Storage tab in mail

[compact gulch]

yooo thats it lmao thanks

[compact gulch]

i didnt know we had this since when?

[remote yarrow]

For almost a month now

[wind spindle]

for lowering threat level. do you need to 3 star the stage? or is it just 100%

[cobalt rapids]

just 100%

imagine having to 3* lethal to lower threat

[wind spindle]

I'm brute forcing 15-4, gear is just the limiting factor right now damn those gold plates. 3 down. 3 to go

[jaunty vault]

you dont need +13 gear lol

[sharp socket]

wait is the event only 1 week long

[cobalt rapids]

lite rerun

[jaunty vault]

reruns are only 1 weeek save for collabs

[sharp socket]

oh dear i cant get everything i need from shop then unless i really spend oil

[forest palm]

shouldn't be all that bad, just need to assess priorities relative to your gameplay state

[cobalt rapids]

there isnt that much stuff to get from shop

[sinful elk]

Is there any ships in the event worth investing in

[forest palm]

Emden, and the purples are worthwhile tech

[sinful elk]

What about the battlecruisers

[forest palm]

EVA 🚮

[sinful elk]

[soft raft]

BC Exclusive EVA Tech

[forest palm]

most all BC are EVA tech that's only for BC

[balmy matrix]

Can anyone help me building mixed fleet for general use? I'll make a thread for that

[sinful elk]

Am i fucked to have almost no ib tech but almost able to develop kear

[cobalt rapids]

no

[forest palm]

not really KMS tech is just a pain in the ass, along with HMS

[silver lintel]

Most important is to get uss/hms to lvl 7 anyway

[cobalt rapids]

amke tread

[undone plover]

there is 2 KMS events (rondo rerun + new event) and u can farm divergent chessboard to fix it

[sinful elk]

[forest palm]

though with KMS you're working with like a little under 100 ships, but thankfully KMS ships are weighted more per ship as opposed to other factions

[sinful elk]

Kinda trying to work on roon but im kinda out of option really

[forest palm]

Eugen, 23, and 1 all work

[sinful elk]

[forest palm]

though Spee is probably better to take over Eugen

more beneficial 120 tech

[remote yarrow]

I wonder if they understood with the typos

[forest palm]

you don't speak in anagram?

[remote yarrow]

Not one of my languages

[forest palm]

[forest palm]

either way farm Divergent Chessboard War Archive for more German ships

[loud rover]

so whats emden good for? did my 3 tickets and got her. only thought would be an opsi fleet since i need make a 4th fleet once Nano mlb

[remote yarrow]

She's a decent dps iirc

[cobalt rapids]

she buffs kms

[loud rover]

i would hope so with double main gun and torps

[shell geyser]

Which is better for this fleet? Sovetsky Soyuz or Enty
Mainly for against light armor
Comp is
Yorktown 2 and August von Parseval
Anchorage, Hammen 2, and Hindinburg
Not sure if Soyuz just outdamage with pure stats or Enty with the CV buffs

[cobalt rapids]

enty

[rocky fjord]

what were the tech stats from this event?

[cobalt rapids]

fp and bc eva

[rocky fjord]

so just emden fp

[shell geyser]

Thxs

[cobalt rapids]

all fp except the 2 bc

[rocky fjord]

ok

[forest palm]

Emden, and the Purples

[rocky fjord]

im fasting, but still curious

[forest palm]

to be chip starved

[rocky fjord]

60 cubes, fasting

[forest palm]

hope your ticket pulls pay off

at least Thuringen is free, so you only have to worry about Emden, Yorck, and Elbing Chillin

[rocky fjord]

ill rmbr those

[wind spindle]

I'm just bad at the game. Regularly lose too much HP on the first boss with my boss fleet so i struggle on boss 3. I've been getting better. But sometimes i take only like 10% on my backline other runs they'll get hammered and be down 40-50%. (yes i'm resetting when that happens hence the brute force comment)

[stark quiver]

about what time of the next few years will the rondo ships be added to perma pool

[forest palm]

probably in like 2 years

[stark quiver]

time to pull then

[forest palm]

I wouldn't hard pull till the last day

[wind spindle]

use your building tickets first

[stark quiver]

i may have went ham the first day bad idea btw

[forest palm]

[wind spindle]

lucked out and the only ship that i missed last time was Emden, and pulled her literal first pull on the rerun

[calm cradle]

do antisub weapons work on this event's D3 boss?

[forest palm]

they do

[cobalt rapids]

yes but theyll scratch her

[calm cradle]

probably better than whatever junk I use while leveling. thanks

[forest palm]

only really need a Hedghog

[calm cradle]

you mean there are other antisub weapons?

[ripe bluff]

Chat how do build Emden

[forest palm]

for events with subs you'll only really need to use a hedgehog for ASW
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hedgehog

[soft raft]

DD gun/CL gun/Torp/Regular Cruiser auxes

[ripe bluff]

DD main CL secondary?

[soft raft]

yes

[sweet delta]

Second slot DD and CL are about the same , use good gun

[loud rover]

CL gun secondary gives a different effect than DD gun secondary in her skill

[undone plover]

was triple roomba fine for ch13 in absence of other choices? for lethal clear i mean

[sweet delta]

13 is easy so yes

[spring bolt]

roomba superior to most AA guns anyway

[wind spindle]

Oh hey, i just figured out what i was doing wrong in 15-4. I was timing my airstrikes and shelling to when she was in her smokescreen. So they were doing minimal damage and causing me to drag the fight on longer than i could hold out for

The fact that i struggled through 5 clears before realizing this fact hurts me

[little tree]

is little Chestshire worth the levling and MLB for to have an AA SHIP

[cobalt rapids]

not rly

[little tree]

Dang

[south sequoia]

ignore amagi and seyd, which of the 3 is best to 125

[forest palm]

really a coinflip between Odin, and Ruppretch

[south sequoia]

Man why did they have to give them both cool designs

[thorny basalt]

I like constellation's barrage but that's just me. Also she's the only battlecruiser for Eagle Union if that matters to you

[steady beacon]

125 for what purposes though
I have the first three 125
Stella for testing SR battle line output vs bosses
Amagi and Seydlitz for PvP stuff in previous eras

[spring bolt]

you will be fine with 0 bc at lv 125

[loud rover]

should i switch to pr5 focus to get more ply face after i fs5 haku? its been a while, but are we able to gold pr4? just need to finish marco polo

[blissful hamlet]

constellation and rupp or odin

[remote yarrow]

Yes to both and PR4 PRs have been coinable for a while now

[blissful hamlet]

amagi is probably the least priority for 125 there

[late flame]

you know its mentioned to ignore amagi right

[loud rover]

sweet. is 2 tenrai fine to have when leaving pr4 focus?

[remote yarrow]

Yep

[loud rover]

[late flame]

i did a 3rd tenrai since i was like 3 prints away when i done all the pr4 ships

[loud rover]

i'm only at 20/50 with none in shop, if i see a gold pr4 rigging i'll do it

[spring bolt]

ad-1 has decreased the demand for tenrai, so 2 is fine

[loud rover]

idk what ad-1 is

[spring bolt]

skyraider

[loud rover]

dont have it, didnt start playing till august 2023

at least i can get one in the future since yt2 hasnt had her rerun

[spring bolt]

yeah, and later it will most likely be added to gear lab, like the mk7

[loud rover]

that wont be till much later though

[clever sun]

I wonder why the skill i am no 1 of my san diego never activate, is it a bug or i just unlucky?

[loud rover]

its when she's firing her AA guns, 15% pretty low so maybe unlucky

[clever sun]

15% to activate the skill? Damn

[steady beacon]

What do you have against my entire server?!?!?

[loud rover]

@clever sun probably should've asked this first but, are you referring to her AA buff or her star barrage when firing main guns? because the barrage needs her augment

[late flame]

i mean technically i'd choose none to 125
also me : running out of arrays since i'm doing waifus to 125

[clever sun]

I got her augment too, thats why i wonder why see never use her barrage

[loud rover]

it can be hard to notice, especially when the screen is filled with shells. its basically another main gun and not anything overly fancy

try having her on her own for a battle if you wanna see to make absolutely sure, they should be star shaped

[silk helm]

This good?

[loud rover]

its meh, if you dont have anything better then its fine to use

[silk helm]

ty i probs don't have anything better

[loud rover]

i use it since I dont have 100kai laying around and CLs that can use DD guns would rather have the faster fire rate. or stat stick on ships like sandy and juneau

[wind spindle]

is there a way to change the timezone that is displayed? or will it only display Server time?

[viscid swift]

You are stuck with server time

[wind spindle]

Like, they added a clock idle feature and it doesn't even display helpful information for most of the world

[late flame]

feel free #game-feedback

[thorny bay]

focus on tenrais / ply guns or hinden guns?

[eager mulch]

just move so your time zone matches the server time

[loud rover]

i would say tenrai first if you dont have 2-3 already (50 prints from shop included)

[thorny bay]

2 tenrais for hakunano, 3 plys and 3 hindens atm

(essientially what is good to have in excess)

[loud rover]

i would say a 3rd tenrai to make it 3 across the board, but after that just do what you feel is lacking for your fleets

[viscid swift]

I would just go for Plymouth guns at that point

trying to go for a 3rd Tenrai at this point in time makes 0 sense because PR7 drops next month, that much has been confirmed

[silver lintel]

Kear is d27 now, can i dev 30 her b4 pr7 lol

[viscid swift]

and that will take priority and if you're not heavily cubing that will take till around November or so to finish

and the Tenrai probably get's added to the gear lab in late January 2 months later

so if you start now if you're lucky you'll have gotten it around the same time but you'll have lost that time to focus on getting more Plymouth guns which can't be crafted

[thorny bay]

[viscid swift]

maybe? I wouldn't bet on it though if you still have Hindenburg to finish as well

[forest palm]

that's what 120 prints, might be doable in 3 weeks weeks

[loud rover]

should i wait on doing plymouth then if pr7 is right around the corner?

[whole crypt]

so like 147 days?

[viscid swift]

well it's still a few weeks off so you may as well make a start

[forest palm]

we are getting an SP so there's some prints right there as well as the monthly roll over buy out

[whole crypt]

plymouth gun isn't due to be added to lab for another year after tenrai, you can start now and go back to it again after PR7

[forest palm]

also if it took someone 21 weeks to get 120 prints I'd be curious about their research prio

[eager mulch]

all basic research

[whole crypt]

I just assumed weeks weeks meant 7 x 7

[forest palm]

no just a brain stutter

[eager mulch]

what brain?

[little tree]

Boss vanguard is dying sometimes on 12-2 i beat it but i dont think it will make it very far consistently (i have no more Main gun parts to upgrade main guns)

not sure if its gear or ships

[whole crypt]

gear

[viscid swift]

it's a bit of both

[little tree]

i followed as best i could to tier list for gear

[viscid swift]

gears are wanting on some areas but some levels on some of those ships aren't helping either

[whole crypt]

more of gear, particularly enhancement

105+ should be able to handle 12-2 with those ships if properly geared

[little tree]

Talins is the only one left barely alive

sometimes it fails

[whole crypt]

those enhacnement levels really isn't acceptable by ch12

[little tree]

im out of general parts

[whole crypt]

grind in 12-1

or buy from medal shop

[loud rover]

its double DD boss on 12-2 so AP main guns wont help, and you're very slow (no beaver badge either) so you'll eat every torp.

[whole crypt]

those are vanguards though and the gun choices are fine

[soft raft]

Eh eatingtoo many torps is more of a conern for W14 than W12

[loud rover]

i guess, enhancement more of a problem in the end

[whole crypt]

could have been better but they should work
if the fight was dragging out to their death it's main fleet DPS problems as well

[loud rover]

yeah, i dont remember the boss move patterns, but at least 1/3 from a BB salvo should hit

[loud rover]

who do you have for boss main?

[whole crypt]

gear?

[little tree]

one sec

[whole crypt]

gear choice and enhancement levels

[viscid swift]

you need to use a Helldiver on Shinano

[loud rover]

give a helldiver to nano

[whole crypt]

take some time to level in 12-1 and grind for plates

[little tree]

Done its +9

[whole crypt]

at ch12 you really should only be using +10 gear besides blue eva aux and 76mm

[loud rover]

no CV augs, no sword on nelsonkai. not a huge prio there, but its a bit extra stats

[whole crypt]

it's also a huge coin sink that I wouldn't recommend

[loud rover]

that too

[little tree]

im sitting at 80K coins

[whole crypt]

80k isn't a lot and there are better things to spend on

[loud rover]

still no. at this point its your gear and enhancements dragging you down, not a lack of augs

[whole crypt]

just enhancing gear already costs coins, you could also take the chance to LB or retrofit some other ships

[little tree]

I got Volga MLB recently but thats not boss

[loud rover]

seeing a lack of washing machines at w12 is concerning

[little tree]

Whats that

[whole crypt]

it isn't, gold rudders take a while to stack up from research

though at least 1 or two by now would be nice

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Improved_Hydraulic_Rudder

[loud rover]

oh right, i delayed my w12 push cause i was massive noob so i ended up over leveled and geared

[little tree]

only other leveled ships