gameplay-help

[little tree]

so am i looking to swap hood out by W13?

[atomic abyss]

By the time you hit 13, you would have likely have gotten alternatives to both of them

[keen sable]

nothing dangerous comes in light on mob except repair ships and usually a volley of AP finishes them off anyway.

[little tree]

im on 11 atm might finihs 12 by tonight

[keen sable]

you hopefully aren't using newbie fleets by 13

[atomic abyss]

Yeah those don't cut out for w13

[little tree]

my boss fleet is very good my mob fleet needs the work

[uncut oar]

does light mob prevalence hold true for opsi mobbing in general out of curiosity

and event mobs

[atomic abyss]

Event no, opsi depends tbh

Usually, your elites or sirens are med armour

But honestly event content is weak enough that it doesn't really matter...

[keen sable]

you usually run no bb on mob in 13 so make of that what you will

[uncut oar]

yeah that's fair, anecdotal evidence being something made me run a 457 in mob for chibi sniping

[hidden fox]

Shinano Setup any objections for W13 on this?

[little tree]

i only have like 3 leveld BB' so not an issue mostly CV

[atomic abyss]

For bossing?

[hidden fox]

mobbing I need better offensive CV rn

[eternal moth]

You don't generally want to run converging TBs in campaign

[atomic abyss]

Then you'll want a fighter

[hidden fox]

noted

[atomic abyss]

And yes, replace the ryuuseis with wyverns for mobbing

[uncut oar]

I'm curious about that homing beacon

[hidden fox]

HAHAHAHAH, I'm broke

[atomic abyss]

Oh right
The breguets are in the core shop now

[eternal moth]

Even if you don't have Wyverns, run Barracudas and double catapults

[hidden fox]

reduces launch time/reload time. every second counts

[uncut oar]

I don't think it does as much as you think it does for nano's launch timing

[hidden fox]

why no beacon

[eternal moth]

Homing beacon is worse than catapult

[atomic abyss]

Tho I'm really curious who is on w13 boss if Shinano is on mob...

[eternal moth]

It's only real use is for timing

[soft raft]

lack of fighter intercept sounds very no bueno in a world known for being plane hell

[hidden fox]

I might need to check stats again lol

[hidden fox]

I on 13-4 the boss is taihou

[eternal moth]

He means who's in your boss fleet

[hidden fox]

yeah thats what I was concerned about

[atomic abyss]

Who is on the boss fleet then

Cos there aren't exactly many ships better than nano for bosses...

Especially Taihou in particular

[hidden fox]

oh I got Enterprise, NJ Bismarck Z, Guam, Shima or Laffey II, then Sandy

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that's fine

[atomic abyss]

[eternal moth]

I'd run Laffey over Shima

[keen sable]

that leaves shimanto to mob by herself

[hidden fox]

under level rn working on that rn

[keen sable]

i guess you could use cheshire also

[eternal moth]

He's only on w13, so no need for Shimanto yet

[soft raft]

or move Guam or Laffey II to mob

[hidden fox]

same thing with shimanto she's like lv 115 for me rn but I need to raise it a bit more

[atomic abyss]

Idk I just feel that Shinano would be better off in boss

[hidden fox]

I got Unzen and Yudachii on that

[atomic abyss]

Taihou is heavy armour after all

[soft raft]

they are not AA carry material
They are not known for high AA

[atomic abyss]

Your mob fleet will get fleeced even if Shinano carries fighters at that rate

[uncut oar]

guam laff2 sandy is also like very overkill for AA

[hidden fox]

oh yeah eagles have better AA than most factions right?

[uncut oar]

you can afford to move 1 to mob it's fine

[atomic abyss]

Generally yes

[hidden fox]

Alr how about this setup, change it at any point
Mob: Saratoga, Unicorn, Essex, Guam, Laffey II, Seattle
Boss: Shinano, NJ, Bismarck Z, Unzen, Shima, Sandy

[soft raft]

wouldnt say Unzen is boss tank material but sure that's better than before

[atomic abyss]

Shima to mob, Guam to boss imo

[hidden fox]

why shima in mob

[atomic abyss]

Boss has no tank currently

Now your boss fleet is lacking AA

[hidden fox]

eh, kill taihou fast enough shouldn't be too much of an issue ig

[atomic abyss]

That logic should apply to mob more than it does to boss lmao

[soft raft]

if you can maintain concealment sure

[hidden fox]

alr

[uncut oar]

imo shima's double preload is kind of wasted on boss

[atomic abyss]

And idk
I feel that Taihou puts way more plane pressure than w13 mobs

[uncut oar]

idk if you were thinking the same thing when you said shima to mob Ender, kinda curious

[hidden fox]

it's aa hell either way you gotta shoot them all down somehow

[atomic abyss]

Wasn't exactly my first or second thought

What did cross my mind is Shima and Unzen off loading their damage at the same time

[sleek spade]

How do yall even know boss armor types?

[hidden fox]

oh yeah I almost forgot I grinding xp for Harkuyuu rn does that change anything?

[hidden fox]

boss armor is generally whatever the actual armor is for the character

[atomic abyss]

Then you'll want to slot an IJN carrier on mob...

[sleek spade]

yea but what about event bosses and such

[atomic abyss]

The easily accessible IJN carriers like Hiryuu or Souryuu are fine

[hidden fox]

yeah I'll switch either essex or saratoga for harkuyuu once I get her up

[atomic abyss]

Unless that Haku is Dev 30 no point slotting her in anyways

[hidden fox]

Then I got Aquila in the works rn any difference in healing between her and Unicorn?

[atomic abyss]

Check datamines

[atomic abyss]

Her healing is supplementary
She can't heal carry

[hidden fox]

rip

[soft raft]

Unicorn + Aquila + BB is one of the most common mobbing backlines, esp for later campaign where Aquila's secondary heal will be much appreicated

[uncut oar]

pretty sure too you can tell just ingame right? if BB AP is hitting for grey it's light, if DD gun hitting for grey it's heavy, if neither it's probably medium?

[atomic abyss]

You couuuuld but that's not exactly reliable

[uncut oar]

yeah I mean that's for if you really want to

[sleek spade]

do I need AA for chap 14 or just a lot of ASW?

[atomic abyss]

You need at least w12 tier AA with asw on 14-3/4

[sleek spade]

ah that's not bad

[atomic abyss]

The main issue for w14 is suicide boats

[sleek spade]

I was more worried abt ASW lol

[hidden fox]

alr alr revised ideal W13 fleet with the new info/stuff I forgot about
Mob: Harkyuu. Saratoga/Essex, Unicorn, Unzen Laffey II, Seattle
Boss: Shinano, NJ, Bismarck Z, Guam, Sandy, whatever else I can pull out of my ass

[atomic abyss]

So you basically need to have a non US BB as your flag

[stone sluice]

If I don’t MLB a ship and gets stuck on 90lvl, all the further experience from the dorm will be lost or it will be saved up until I MLB her?

[atomic abyss]

Lost

[uncut oar]

speaking of that, is 155kai still cutting it for 14 botes? or would you rather switch to 137s?

[sleek spade]

NJ w that US lab DD gun doesn't work?

[keen sable]

if you don't visit dorm before mlb it will be saved

[hidden fox]

which one?

[sleek spade]

the last one at the end of DD gun line that requires top secrets

[soft raft]

137's only for DD locked BBs

[hidden fox]

oh the 137mm?

[sleek spade]

yea. I thought that does decent dmg

[soft raft]

yeah this thing

[atomic abyss]

The thing is

[soft raft]

it's the best aux gun for DD locked BBs/BCs

[atomic abyss]

Why are you even using NJ on mob

NJ has always been better for bosses anyways

[sleek spade]

because she does AA buff...

[atomic abyss]

Chuck FdG on mob instead

[hidden fox]

wait when could you craft NJ gun in gear lab?!

[soft raft]

why are you caring about that on W14?

[sleek spade]

recently

[atomic abyss]

Since about 2 weeks ago?

[hidden fox]

oh

[soft raft]

Since 2 weeks ago yee

[sleek spade]

so maybe 2 UR BB and Uni for healing

[atomic abyss]

You'll want Volga/Aqui instead of a second BB

[eternal moth]

When talking about Shima, are you talking about Shimanto, or Shimakaze?

[sleek spade]

I have neither Volga nor Aqui

[hidden fox]

shimakaze

[sleek spade]

wait I think I may have Aqui

[atomic abyss]

Good luck then lol

[keen sable]

damage smoothing copium then

[sleek spade]

yea I don't have Aqui

[atomic abyss]

Then just stick to w12/13

[sleek spade]

Perseus works or no?

[atomic abyss]

With uni? Lol no

[sleek spade]

how come? so the issue is not abt healing then?

[atomic abyss]

She cannot work with uni period

[hidden fox]

I been doing 12-1 for the xp so once I get Harkuyuu I just have to pour all my resources into her

[atomic abyss]

You send out 3 preload airstrikes

[hidden fox]

sitting at 40% xp collected rn

[atomic abyss]

At least half of it will miss

[sleek spade]

I can do manual

[atomic abyss]

And Percy becomes useless for the rest of the battle

[hidden fox]

isn;t her reload extended significantly due to her skill?

[atomic abyss]

Exactly

[soft raft]

yup
+90% longer reload after preloads are spent

[keen sable]

you really don't want to hang around for 60+s anyway

[hidden fox]

oh yeah new idea: is anchorage sutible for mobbing W13?

[soft raft]

I'd rather have her boss but yeah she works in both

[atomic abyss]

That doesn't solve the issue lol

[hidden fox]

I got guam so works out fine

[compact gulch]

Well I keep running out of time in 9-1 so maybe I’ll need to level and lb 2nd fleet

[sweet delta]

Manual solves almost all issues. Assuming it's good manual.

[soft raft]

sounds like lvls and/or a gear issue

[atomic abyss]

You shd be able to clear w9 with single fleet

If you're levelling a second fleet
Mob fleet

And limit break it

Oil cap makes it worth

[eternal moth]

For one thing, you need to retrofit Sara, and make sure she has her augment

[sleek spade]

so where's the issue? is it backline dmg? or healing?

[atomic abyss]

Backline damage

[sleek spade]

I can swap Alsace and UvH in and should be good

[viscid swift]

what is this even for

[atomic abyss]

W14 mob lol

[viscid swift]

just start a thread and post your dock

[atomic abyss]

I feel like your priorities are just mixed up

[soft raft]

UvH in W14 mob no bueno
esp if you keep her off flag

[sleek spade]

ogey

[wintry oxide]

anyone got a guide? idk what im doing or which equipments are good or not

[viscid swift]

sam's guide in #bot-spam /equip

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[hidden fox]

welp. Ig I got a lot of grinding to do. I gonna need to grind Harkuyuu, Anchorage, Laffey II, and Shinano

[sleek spade]

W14 Fleet building

[hidden fox]

I've already burned through the weekly supply of oil I'm running out fast

[uncut oar]

would you be comfortable with only having 11 helldivers in reserve?

between prints and actual

[sleek spade]

isnt that a lot of helldivers?

[uncut oar]

yeah but. it's helldivers. it's basically the same deal as 406mk6.

[atomic abyss]

Let's be real
You can get more from the million T3 EU boxes you'll get anyways

Unless they make some rainbow helldiver or something

[uncut oar]

okay yeah I'm scrapping

I saw only 100 depot space left and wanted to clean house

[atomic abyss]

You do know you can like

Chuck them on ships you don't use

And have them take up no space in depot?

[uncut oar]

... sometimes you guys make me question my intelligence

no, I forgor. q.q

[atomic abyss]

Depot expansions are the biggest scams in AL for this reason

If you need more depot space expand your dock instead 🧠

[sleek spade]

[atomic abyss]

You get effectively 50 depot space for the price of 20

[sleek spade]

stonks

[atomic abyss]

And you get more space for ships too!
It's a win-win!

Well outside of your gem counts at least

[compact gulch]

I read guide but still confused on gears besides the repair toolkit

[atomic abyss]

What part is exactly confusing

[topaz smelt]

is there really a through gear guide?

[tawdry sluice]

The Azur Lane tier list has gear options for every ship and explains their uses

[viscid swift]

not really, at least for what I'd consider thorough

[uncut oar]

which tierlist, also ectl gear suggestions probably more confoosing than samguide if you don't know how to read ectl

[compact gulch]

Like just which does damage to certain types of ships and what gears are really good besides the ones in guide and what gear my current fleet is compatible or is worth leveling

[topaz smelt]

i have an incomplete one for guns but its kinda unreadable without infographics

[uncut oar]

if the guide doesn't list it it's probably because it's not worth mentioning

[tawdry sluice]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

Not sure which this one is

[uncut oar]

yeah it can still be confusing to people, also that's ectl

[keen sable]

it says it on the top what it's for. if you don't know what the enemy is, that is a different matter

[elfin hollow]

What ships do yall use for world 13

[keen sable]

I can tell you right now though that every boss on 9 is light

10 also. kind of why no one used AP back then.

[molten merlin]

Advice on fleet building for returnee

[stark quiver]

ships with good/decent AA

[bright tusk]

what is the strongest submarine fleet now?

[stark quiver]

probably flasher, archer, and albacore

[fresh gale]

is there a real event this week?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the boss but just use that for average best probably

[stark quiver]

rondo rerun in 3 days

i think

[soft raft]

We have a rerun in 3 days and a new event after that, most likely a SP/Medium event

[crisp estuary]

[stark quiver]

the ones with just sp stages? im new idk terminology

[soft raft]

yeah
Like this for example
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Convergence

[stark quiver]

nice a short event so i dont have to spend all my oil

[abstract latch]

How do i get more subs?

Do i roll on the 'special' thing?

[viscid swift]

there are various ways, rolling on the special pool is just a waste of cubes though so don't do it

[atomic abyss]

Medal/merit shop are better ways

[eternal moth]

How likely is it that Mog is going to be part of the Wichita meta?

[little tree]

ia Witchata meta a goiod ship to get?

[sharp socket]

can i craft up T1 ordnance report into T2?

[atomic abyss]

Suchi thinks it's unlikely iirc

Largely cos the frontline spends a bit too much time chained up

[plain saffron]

she gonna die

[warm flax]

What's the latest level of Wichita Meta

[wary timber]

It makes things slower cuz u can only fight her 5 times a day

[dusk maple]

10 on global

[sweet delta]

no

[sweet delta]

Easy to get but of questionable value. She will out DPS Hindenburg when she's low hp, but dead ships don't do damage

[sweet delta]

Chained ships don't shoot guns, and dead ships don't do damage. None of Hindenburg, Unzen, mogador will be part of the best fleets

[plain saffron]

just don't die

[atomic abyss]

I feel like I missed a footnote here

[little tree]

Im farm for her then i need a good ship that doenst Require bullins

[atomic abyss]

What do you mean she outdpses Hinden
Is it actually that high wtf?

What kind of berserker genes does she have

[little tree]

I need a Hood reaplcemnt she falls apart way to easily

[atomic abyss]

What

[little tree]

in 10-4 and 11-1

[sweet delta]

The problem is that there's a short window of being low hp before she just dies

[boreal oriole]

She has like 75% increase FP at 25% HP iirc

[atomic abyss]

Wichita meta is a frontline ship

That's super frail

[little tree]

this is side note

[plain saffron]

use fire extiguisher

[atomic abyss]

If your hood is falling apart, give her a fire suppressor

[sweet delta]

Use an AP DD gun

[little tree]

Im not sure i have any

[boreal oriole]

And a fast proc strong barrage (4shots to proc)

[plain saffron]

is her dmg mostly from barrage, wichitam

[sweet delta]

let's check again the datamine for skills

[plain saffron]

[sweet delta]

Or the wiki

[plain saffron]

i can't read numbers

[sweet delta]

So when she's under 5% hp, she has 75% chance of double gun, +50% FP, and +50% damage. All on 2mgm, and I have no idea how to read the AoA on the wiki

[little tree]

Is twin 406 MK5 good enouhe on hood?

[sweet delta]

It's like 7mgm when under 5% hp

[atomic abyss]

That's a BB gun....

[sweet delta]

Whatever that is, it's not good on anyone

[atomic abyss]

We're talking about her secondary gun

[little tree]

ahh

[sweet delta]

Yeah this is garbage

[little tree]

for the second gun the only one i have thats AP is twin 128MM Sk c/41

everything else i own is HE

[wary timber]

The triple barrel 406mm Mk6 gun is better as a main battery gun. Tho I would give whatever ship using that a fire control radar along with it

[sweet delta]

That's the correct purple DD gun. Then, also put 🧯 and on Hood

[little tree]

is type 91 AP shell good?

Lets see if she sinks less Thank you so much

[sweet delta]

And she's guaranteed at least 8 seconds of being under 5% hp when she dies for the first time each battle

[wary timber]

Won't the 6CRH shell work better on Royal Navy ships tho

[little tree]

I dont own that. if thats a suggestion for hood

[plain saffron]

wdym by the aoa part

[sweet delta]

On the wiki page

Every 12 (50%,) times this ship fires her Main Guns: fires a special barrage.
[Operation Siren]\nEvery 12 (8) times this ship fires her Main Guns: fires a special barrage. When fighting humanoid Siren fleets or Boss fleets: increases this ship's DMG dealt by 3% (5%). Ashen Might - Wichita II only: 4 times this ship fires her Main Guns: fires a special barrage.

[Operation Siren]\nWhile this ship's HP is above 50%, every 8 times this ship fires her Main Guns: reduces this ship's current HP by 5% and fires a special barrage with 20% increased Crit Rate. When this ship's HP falls below 50%, every 4 times this ship fires her Main Guns: fires a special barrage. When fighting humanoid Siren fleets or Boss fleets: increases this ship's DMG dealt by 8%.

[plain saffron]

wtf is that 12(50%)

[sweet delta]

Every 12 50% what?
Why are there two Operation Sirens?
What 4 times this ship?

[plain saffron]

the bottom one prob opsi only

the top one is regular/opsi

~~so if non opsi
Every 12 (50%,) times this ship fires her Main Guns: fires a special barrage.

if opsi
Every 12 (8) times this ship fires her Main Guns: fires a special barrage. When fighting humanoid Siren fleets or Boss fleets: increases this ship's DMG dealt by 3% (5%). Ashen Might - Wichita II only: 4 times this ship fires her Main Guns: fires a special barrage.

While this ship's HP is above 50%, every 8 times this ship fires her Main Guns: reduces this ship's current HP by 5% and fires a special barrage with 20% increased Crit Rate. When this ship's HP falls below 50%, every 4 times this ship fires her Main Guns: fires a special barrage. When fighting humanoid Siren fleets or Boss fleets: increases this ship's DMG dealt by 8%.~~

you know what just read the datamine

[sweet delta]

Yes

410

If you already have a 305 for some reason, you can use that

[sleek spade]

a diligent shikikan is the one who overwork his girls

[sweet delta]

Great advice for #al-general

[sleek spade]

wrong chat sorry lmao

btw is Emden worth unloading cubes on?

awww but she's hot!

[bleak mica]

then just unload cubes on her

[plain saffron]

if you want her then pull her

[sweet delta]

From a strength perspective, she's not rainbow. From a hot perspective, why TF are you here

[atomic abyss]

I mean well she's one of the better CLs
But if you're low on cubes well

[sleek spade]

I was just hoping that she's hot and usable, unlike elbing and elbe lol

[atomic abyss]

I mean suchi, there's literally one rainbow CL

[plain saffron]

she is hot and usable

[sleek spade]

real. so sad

[sleek spade]

nice!

[sweet delta]

oh right sandy is a DD, my bad 🏃‍♂️

[atomic abyss]

I mean
Wasn't sandy pre aug behind Emden in dps anyways

AA aside ofc

Anyways my point was moreso that there's only one UR CL and one DR CL

There's no gacha UR CL

[sleek spade]

btw what is the use case for Vanguard? Why would I use her over a big dmg UR BB?

[keen sable]

stationary helena

[sleek spade]

oh

[wary timber]

Iirc Emden is one of those ships with a unique gun loadout

[warm flax]

Is Kron locked to her gun or can she use rainbow gun?

[little tree]

Will this mob fleet get me thru 12 -13 ?

[inland rain]

#1252406025806544916 has the ships I have leveled, which of them should I use for opsi?

[atomic abyss]

W12 yes
W13 no, even with more levels
There's not enough AA

[warm flax]

I wouldn't put Helena on mob, backline should be fine but putting a CV on flag should boost your acv

[little tree]

This is my boss

[atomic abyss]

Nelson in flag
Always

But regardless
Those fleets are clearing w12
Not w13

They are plane hells, w13 even more so
You actually need anti air boats

[little tree]

Hmm I might have some

[warm flax]

Yeah might as well start working on several PR ships

[little tree]

I have San deigo at lb 0

Yikes I got 0 aa ships

[atomic abyss]

Then push w12 and stop there

Come back to w13 at a later date

[little tree]

I only have monarch

Pr1 is all I can do not enough tech points

[atomic abyss]

Then it's time you start working on PR ships then

Especially fdg

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[little tree]

Fdg is prio ?

[atomic abyss]

Yes
She should be the one that players aim to get asap

[little tree]

i got 194/630 iron blood

roon time it is

[near sonnet]

Should I get the material to retrofit Yuudachi or limit break shinano?

[amber nebula]

Roon?

[atomic abyss]

Shinano for sure

[atomic abyss]

Not sure why this was necessary though...

[vagrant panther]

Is the prototype quad 330 1931 a good gun for CB? Looking for something for Azuma. Or should I stick to the 310 type 0 for the buff

[amber nebula]

It was necessary, trust me.

[atomic abyss]

So it was not then

[amber nebula]

No, it was.

[atomic abyss]

Off-topic images like that aren't allowed in this channel.

So please avoid such posts here in future.

[amber nebula]

Someone mentioned Roon, so she popped her head in to listen.

[little tree]

Is more then 1 Leveld DD going to be important later?

[atomic abyss]

The tldr is
Her gun is only necessary on her before FS5
After that she can use whatever really

[atomic abyss]

You might need more than 1 for hard mode maps...

But yeah 2 is more than enough

[little tree]

I been noticing that my only other DD is Kimberly meta

[atomic abyss]

Well no need to worry about that then
Stick with your starter for now

Otherwise, consider buying An Shan or Chang Chun in the shops

And then buy their retrofit item

[vagrant panther]

Is the quad 330 1931 any good though? Happen to have spare prints for it and my other CBs are settled

[little tree]

What ships should I focus on MLB next with my gold bullins when I get them

[atomic abyss]

Volga

[sterile jolt]

Volga, San Diego, u-47 (if you want wolf pack, and not have other)

[vagrant panther]

Ooff.. That bad?

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[little tree]

I have other level 80 subs

[sterile jolt]

Wolf or what?

[little tree]

no wolf

i dont use U 47

[vagrant panther]

So unless I equip an event gun for her, the best is the 330 1931. Got it.

[eager mulch]

agir gun exists

[vagrant panther]

Oh, which is the Agir gun?

[sweet delta]

i think agir gun is this

[atomic abyss]

Yeah

[vagrant panther]

Thanks thanks

[sterile jolt]

U-47 much better, but if you prefer this, then ok

Especially with her aug

[little tree]

I can swapo it around but im tight on Bullins

Main fleet has Prio

[sterile jolt]

Ofc

[silent latch]

is sovetskaya rossiya any good

[sterile jolt]

Mmm nah, not worth ig

[stable badger]

is the spearfish UR torp plane, any good?

[eager mulch]

plane good

[soft raft]

Good but not really worth the price

[icy mountain]

would musashi be the best BB for medium/heavy if it werent for her fleet restrictions on her gearing?

[frank pulsar]

shes still best bb for heavy rn isnt she? idk abt med tho

anyway her main weakness is light and not med/heavy

[sterile jolt]

She is good in any ways, but she struggling with lack of good sakura weapons. Nowadays Bis2, Alsace, Soyuz can be better with 457mm guns. Ofc she can use 457mm, but you can use other BBs who can be better with 457mm (sorry for eng)

[crimson glacier]

musashi struggling?

[sterile jolt]

I mean she have not the best purple guns and not the best gold guns. (Yamato guns just not the best choice imo)

[crimson glacier]

Yeah and she still is the best BB in the game for campaign

[sterile jolt]

Sure

[crimson glacier]

While also doing top tier dmg on med and heavy in opsi

[sterile jolt]

Well, like I said, she's good in any ways. But my bis2 with no Plymouth buff doing more damage then my Musashi (with buff) in arbiter boss fights in med and heavy, and I replaced her with Alsace

[crimson glacier]

Yeah and zwei is kinda accepted to be the best BB

[frigid linden]

What’s a good purple gun for Hood? (Pushing to W9)

[crimson glacier]

Twin 410

[fresh tangle]

Where do you get northern parliament guns? Done see tech boxes anywhere and I know Tashkent benefits from one

[crimson glacier]

the only gun that i can remember like that is event limited

oh looks like its on core data too

but i dont think its worth the cost

[left gull]

Is the commander boost worth getting if I'm over 70 for the data packs and bulins?

[atomic abyss]

Not worth at all

[tranquil saffron]

How many wyverns should I get before getting other UR gear?

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I’m finishing up black and white shells first

[sterile jolt]

Mmm, like how much you need?) Like I need 2 in many content like opsi and worlds, but for w15 I crafter another 2 for second fleet.

[atomic abyss]

2

[topaz smelt]

Non zero chance reccs might change

[fresh tangle]

Speaking of wyvern should I be opening more Royal Navy boxes for the Blackburn skua to make wyvern?

[topaz smelt]

Don't think they come from boxes

[fresh tangle]

Either that or 2-3

Got bp’s to make one now so it’s either get four more bps or open boxes

[crisp vine]

Worth or Nah?

[topaz smelt]

pretty shit

[crisp vine]

[pale shell]

Who's better for long term, NJ or Shinanu?

[zinc turret]

shinano

[crisp vine]

• Main fleet gain 3 asw, good/Nah?

[pale shell]

[remote yarrow]

Shinano, there's just so many other UR BBs that do better than NJ rn

[gilded shale]

Any gear guide for Alsace and Mogador?

[remote yarrow]

Alsace standard BB setup with gun swap depending on content, Mogador her gun or an FP one + quad mags + w/e AA you got, +2 HP Aux

[sterile jolt]

Nah

[crisp vine]

Sank you

[topaz smelt]

99% of cats are gonna be shit

[pale shell]

What is mogador good for?

[dawn hamlet]

Hi I'm a bit confused, I heard here there'll be a new IB event with new ib ships but twitter announced a rerun ib event, which one do we get?

[topaz smelt]

rerun, new kms is after it

[inland shoal]

First the rerun then a new one

[warm flax]

What's the perfect cat

[inland shoal]

Mogador is good for dmg

[dawn hamlet]

okay make sense then, thanks guys

[pale shell]

Mobs?

Who's her best partner?

[remote yarrow]

wdym partner?

[pale shell]

Who's her best partner for vanguard

[topaz smelt]

me

[pale shell]

Actually I mean is she best for universal fleet?

[remote yarrow]

Nobody in specific, she can just hold off by herself

[topaz smelt]

shes just a splashable dps, nothing really special

[pale shell]

She's a tank right

[topaz smelt]

she pretends to be a tank

[eternal basalt]

~~Tank insta-dies ~~

[pale shell]

Azur Lane lògic is qüestionable

[remote yarrow]

She's a DD so expect her to be kinda squishy and I don't remember if anyone other than Laffii can somehow main tank mob

[crimson glacier]

#bringbackoldmog

[topaz smelt]

if your tank dies it means shes performed beyond her expectations

[pale shell]

Laffii

[eternal basalt]

Laffey II

[pale shell]

[topaz smelt]

theres a handful of dd tanks

[crisp vine]

what IB event?

[strong tartan]

Rondo at Rainbows End

[silent latch]

is bremerton any good

[novel condor]

She's quite ok if you don't have any better tanks

[remote yarrow]

She's okay at best

[topaz smelt]

shes not a tank

[novel condor]

Wait rice was she an off tank? Forgot actually

[inland rain]

opsi guide?

[gilded shale]

What's the standard BB equipment?

[topaz smelt]

just generic ca dps

[pearl creek]

Anyone has a pic that was shared here that is a meowficcers skills prio guide?

[remote yarrow]

Something like this, changing over to MK6 for light and Champy for Heavy/med

[frank pulsar]

best we have is the wiki page on it

[inland rain]

does it include fleet composition suggestions

[sleek spade]

Is Shimanto compulsory for W15?

[topaz smelt]

no ship really is

[gilded shale]

Do /cats in #bot-spam

[novel condor]

I think better to ask that here tbh prob you will get better recommendations according to your dock

[frank pulsar]

why would there, theres like over 700 ships
usually people just run one mob fleet, 2 boss fleets and 1 wtvr fleet

[sleek spade]

cross-fleet fleet

[inland rain]

Well there might be a lot of ships but not all of them are equally strong

[crisp vine]

Did you know when event start?

[sleek spade]

Thursday

[crisp vine]

Omg ty

[sleek spade]

yes

[remote yarrow]

It's a rerun tho and only decent gacha ship is Emden

[frank pulsar]

if you want specific fleet building help open a thread and post your dock and wait for someone to help you

[remote yarrow]

Tho I didn't really use her that much even back then

[novel condor]

Use her now then

[inland rain]

alr Ill do that

[crisp vine]

Well, extra Main Fleet IB, that help me get faster PR ships

[inland rain]

need help with opsi fleet comp

[sleek spade]

are there any good gear for the event?

[remote yarrow]

Event shop doesn't have any gear, and no decent map drops

[sleek spade]

ahhh that sucks

so the only good thing is Emden, and Elbing (cus she hot)

[tame jungle]

And free seydlitz

[crisp vine]

What about skins? This Little bat look cute tho

[sleek spade]

yes, free seydlitz

[tame jungle]

Free seydlitz she dindunuffin

[sleek spade]

but if you didn't do nothing, wouldn't that mean you did something?

[crisp vine]

[sleek spade]

btw why do ppl say FdG is good but her bossing performance are always noticeably lower than my other UR girls

[south sequoia]

Skin discussion is #al-general territory

[south sequoia]

FDG true strength shows when you use her for mob fleets

[sleek spade]

hmmm I see

[south sequoia]

She has less strength compared to her peers when it comes to single target bossing

Unless you roll for crits

[sweet delta]

FDG true strength is accessibility and being permanent. She's better than gold BBs anyways

[sleek spade]

I guess that is true...

[atomic abyss]

Considering her proximity barrage can even be procced by planes...

[crisp vine]

So odin is who? Mob/boss?

[atomic abyss]

Odin is definitely a mobber

[south sequoia]

Or if you go within her range
Fdg has a funny interaction with sandy CM and it inflates her numbers way high

[winter condor]

mogador in wichita meta 11 she is not bad as some people think

[crimson glacier]

wichita meta 11

means quite literally nothing

[winter condor]

for u could be for others no

[crimson glacier]

and you didnt even have any other dps vanguards anyway

[winter condor]

so keep a bit calm dude

[crimson glacier]

you are delusional if you think 11 matters for anyone

you cant stay at 11

you are forced to go 15

[tame jungle]

Stop being pepega both of u

[winter condor]

today i saw max 13 (can't enter in time) so i went to 11. @tame jungle i'm not pepega just went here to show for normal players who moga is quite decent and this one come here with trashtalk

[crisp vine]

🍿

[tame jungle]

You are by definition being pepega

[crimson glacier]

but there is literally nothing in your pic that could help anyone

[winter condor]

next time i don't post anything and fine

[floral oriole]

it's torva, just block and move on

[plain saffron]

in higher tier she will 100% die

nobody saying she's bad. she's just not tanky

and this META is high vanguard pressure

[tame jungle]

Should i run VH on kron for this btw

Looks like a lot of boolets and not much of anything else

[sweet delta]

The last sentence @tame jungle

[tame jungle]

Oh thanks

[silver lintel]

So agir bad?

[winter condor]

np is fine that was more focused for the players who barely go to 10-13 but there is other ways to tell the people stuff but nvm as always this chann is full of meta players who can lend a hand but they prefer to go "offensive"

[atomic abyss]

It's more so that any frontline dps will be utterly pointless

[atomic abyss]

No

[crimson glacier]

but there isnt any players would would stay at 10-13

[atomic abyss]

There's just no point equipping VH compared to no VH

[winter condor]

sure tell that to the people who barely can do 10-13 (there are a lot)

[atomic abyss]

[crimson glacier]

if you can or cant do it thats irrelevant

[plain saffron]

you equip VH to change armor, but if changing armor have no benefit why even
not that HEavy armor bad

[winter condor]

nvm time to work bb and hf

[crimson glacier]

if you never do any meta battles then sure, but why would ppl who ignore meta battle on purpose need a guide for it

[atomic abyss]

I'm unsure how that applies here

You can go all the way to 15 without being able to complete any of them

[crimson glacier]

less of a "can" and more like "you are forced to"

[atomic abyss]

[remote yarrow]

And him seeing a Lv13 isnt just a lie? Since we can only do up 12 rn?

[crimson glacier]

you can do 13

[warm flax]

Are hiddens higher priority than secured

[topaz smelt]

Newbies get +1

[remote yarrow]

Ooh

Thought I missed a day for a second

[topaz smelt]

I missed 2

[sterile jolt]

Stop , why you took uni to the boss fight?...

[remote yarrow]

Secured farming is mainly done to burn AP after you are done with everything else

[sharp socket]

i found that it takes roughly 40 minutes to complete one classified file logger, so i think its entirely possible to get first wyvern in under 24 hours of playtime which is quite good

with a normal amount of time allocation 1 week is more than enough to do it

[remote yarrow]

But UR prints from loggers are random arent they?

[atomic abyss]

You get one of the selectable ones for each logger iirc

[topaz smelt]

Except it takes a month to get vouchers

[sharp socket]

this is in response to this

[light trail]

is it worth upgrading lecture hall? i dont feel like spending 30k coins on something i cant tell is a worth upgrade or not

lecture hall*

I've just been sitting on it for ages

[crimson glacier]

eventually 30k is basically 0

[hollow sail]

it's worth it, also the next two upgrades cost much less

[mint flint]

the next upgrade is cheaper as well

[light trail]

okok

[void turret]

tf am I supposed to do with copies of MLB'D SR ships?

[mint flint]

retire for medals

[void turret]

it really is that simple huh

[mint flint]

yeah

[atomic abyss]

Yeaaaaah

[void turret]

is there a single worth it BB in the medal shop other than Hood?

[atomic abyss]

Anything else would be for faction tech

[void turret]

ah

[atomic abyss]

So for a new player, stuff like Tirpitz may be useful (if they already have hood) to make quicker inroads on FdG/Agir

[void turret]

ah ok

does it matter if i pick tirpitz or bismarck

[warm flax]

Not really

[atomic abyss]

Nope
They give the same amount

[subtle grove]

is it worth it to farm in war archives?

[vale spindle]

Depends if u need ships

For collection purposes for shipyard

[subtle grove]

what about for the gears?

is there anything valuable out there

[atomic abyss]

There are some stuff, but they aren't limited to the event maps (like gold rudders)
You don't really farm gears from maps these days

You get better gears from research or operation siren

[subtle grove]

aight thanks

[crimson glacier]

did wichita fight have planes

[plain saffron]

nope

[humble vessel]

Need help ch15 recommended fleet n builds?

[crimson glacier]

yeah thought so

[warm flax]

\w15

[humble vessel]

Nothing happens

[atomic abyss]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[atomic abyss]

[jaunty vault]

/w15

broken bot

[humble vessel]

Blank

[crimson glacier]

advanced bot with cooper detection

[jaunty vault]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[atomic abyss]

That is weird

[jaunty vault]

it is

[half plover]

do you guys prefer small, medium or large projects?

agir for example

[sterile jolt]

Purple

[crimson glacier]

usually blue

[dawn hamlet]

does collab event get rerun?

[crimson glacier]

maybe

[dawn hamlet]

so ... depend on the collab event?

[sterile jolt]

Some yes, some no

[half plover]

why blue? isn't it more copies in general from larger projects

[crimson glacier]

no

[uncut oar]

yes and no, prints per hour is a metric

[half plover]

I mean I dont have that many DR projects in general, the copies itself must scale 1:1 probably

so more DR, less PR copies in that context

[atomic abyss]

Depends on the Devs and if the collabed IP wants to continue doing so basically

Like we never got a Neptunia or Hololive rerun
Even though we reran DoA and Gridman already

[dawn hamlet]

what about Senran Kagura collab?

[atomic abyss]

Hasn't rerun, at least

Who knows if they will

It's 🔮

[uncut oar]

it's also probably a little early for it to be rerunning even if they want to

considering how long it generally takes for stuff to rerun

[dawn hamlet]

thanks for the info guys

[south sequoia]

wishing well is gone right

[jaunty vault]

yep

[south sequoia]

Alright

[sleek spade]

why blue? purple gives more prints tho?

[crimson glacier]

not more prints per hour or gold spent

[sleek spade]

makes sense

[crisp obsidian]

Hello. I got this sweet little thing from the daily light construction, is she worth investing into or not?

[crimson glacier]

no

[strong tartan]

sweet little no

[subtle grove]

What do i do here?

[cobalt rapids]

move around till tb saves u

[sleek spade]

whom to choose

which is more efficient? I don't have enough bp for both of them but I alr researched both

[subtle grove]

huh?!

[sleek spade]

just move around randomly. TB will save you

[subtle grove]

TB?

[obtuse knoll]

which opsi stage to cope farm for UR prints after clearing all the nodes?

[vestal thistle]

Which prototype to buy

[half plover]

are magnetic quint or quads better for dds? like mogador

[sterile jolt]

I need her... For collection...

[tender lotus]

Any c5
Spam there

[inland shoal]

mag quint only the rainbow ones are good

[half plover]

oh ok

[crimson glacier]

but is it that good

[obtuse knoll]

what is c5

[crimson glacier]

when it costs 3x more to +13

[inland shoal]

It's roughly the same as gold quad mag

[sleek spade]

Torva halp me w research pick...

[tender lotus]

Corruption 5

[half plover]

so purple quad mag it is

[obtuse knoll]

[crimson glacier]

just pick the ship you want more

[sleek spade]

o ok

[crimson glacier]

im biased aganst kear anyway or atleast ppl say that

[sleek spade]

would the gold drop has better drop rate for UR gear BP?

[inland shoal]

I don't understand the question tbh

What gold drop

[sterile jolt]

At least you get 1 or more

[boreal oriole]

Guam over Aegir for Wichita Meta?

[vale spindle]

Doesnt matter

[tender lotus]

He mean the gold research above

[inland shoal]

Oh you mean Hindy

[vale spindle]

just pick the one closest to dev 30

[sterile jolt]

Agir is much better for bosses in anyway imo

[sleek spade]

o ok

[sterile jolt]

But I don't really know what you use in boss fight

[inland shoal]

That's Kear and Hindy tho

[sterile jolt]

.

[sleek spade]

idk if the gold researches would have higher UR gear drop chance

[inland shoal]

In my defence: I did search the chat for someone talking about Ägir. I'm just blind

[boreal oriole]

I just noticed that Since Wichita can use chains her armor break is not consistent over Guam and Guam also can use the Damage Con

[sterile jolt]

Chance to drop from 2-4

[inland shoal]

No real difference between the 2

[sleek spade]

o ok

[sterile jolt]

Blue 1-2, purple like 2-3, gold 2-4. For me

Rainbow... 3-9

[crimson glacier]

gold literally cant drop 2

[sterile jolt]

Yeah? Oh ok

[inland shoal]

But they're asking for UR gear anyway?

[inland shoal]

I mean we will see what is best to use with her chains also disabling guns etc.

[sterile jolt]

DR prints, no?

[wind hazel]

they were asking the UR gear print drop

[inland shoal]

Idk I personally wouldn't call that UR gear

[sterile jolt]

Lol, I think about it xd

[sleek spade]

stronk Tier 6 CA gun

[warm flax]

How much sync point do you get every day for a level 15 meta

[inland shoal]

975 with perfect assists

[inland shoal]

Anyway however you look at it, just go for the ship you can/want to finish first cuz everything else is pretty much equal between the 2 projects (per time)

[spring scarab]

Can we do normal arbiters multiple times in operation Siren??

[sterile jolt]

Only 1 per month

[inland shoal]

Yes, 12 times a year

[spring scarab]

Then what should I do i completed all the all the strongholds and Abyssal bosses and all the maps

Only I can't able to complete hard arbiter

[wind hazel]

use remaining AP on C3/C5

or do the missions

[spring scarab]

Strongholds won't spawn again??

[tender lotus]

Once a week

[inland shoal]

Strongholds are 2 at start + 1 every Monday

[spring scarab]

Ohhh i completed one today

So,i have to do corrosion level 5 or 6 maps for the remaining days ?

[tender lotus]

If you can Harbiter do it
If you can't just farm in opsi

[sterile jolt]

And daily quests

[tender lotus]

Yeah daily quests are important too

[spring scarab]

Yep I will follow this thank you everyone 👍

And a small thing we don't have catch up for PR6 ships ??

[warm flax]

Are hidden zones better source of meta coordinates than daily missions

[tender lotus]

Not yet

[spring scarab]

Then how to max those dev levels ??

[warm flax]

Research academy gives you blueprints

[tender lotus]

We don't know when just do research

[spring scarab]

Ok understood 👌 but those PR6 blueprints are too hard to collect

[tender lotus]

If you're newbie that's given

PR/DR ships really took a very long time
Especially PR6 that doesn't have catch-up

[wary timber]

So I'm currently developing Agir for my PR research but I've reached the point where I need to invest coins and cubes into it which I don't have much of at this point. My Kitakaze's development on the other hand has already completed the requirement for coins ans cubes . Should I switch back to developing Kitakaze at this point while I farm more coins and cubes ?

[tender lotus]

Kitakaze? No
Just do Agir

[wary timber]

Why tho? My kitakaze development is now left with the exp grind which is hella easy for me at this point. The Agir one would take quite a bit

[spring scarab]

If u have enough blueprints then go for agir

[wary timber]

161 on agir and 271 on Kitakaze

[atomic abyss]

I mean you could just finish it for the tech and all
Will be good for haku

But frankly you're not gonna get too much mileage from Kita

[wary timber]

There is one more ship on the development list which is Neptune but she can definitely wait

[novel condor]

Neptune is already over shadowed by other ships atp

[wary timber]

Yea

I also have Roon and Odin on the development list but I'm fairly certain I don't have much blueprints for them

I spent too much time focusing on building Georgia then

[spring scarab]

Do u have FDG ??

[wary timber]

Not even started

[spring scarab]

Then why don't you get her first other than these all ships 😅 she is a good ship man

[wary timber]

I need vanguard tanks

[tender lotus]

Ancho the best tank for you

Her smokescreen is the best for evading

[wary timber]

At this point I only have Prinz Heinrich which is almost ready, Graf Spee, Deutchland and Prinz Eugen

[tender lotus]

Well finish Agir first then

It just she'll take a very long time but it's okay she's good as tank and debuffers

[sleek spade]

IB enthusiast

[wary timber]

Turtleback armor

[tender lotus]

My friend is IB enthusiasm until he hit a wall

[sleek spade]

average IB enthusiast...

[wary timber]

The only PR ship I completed was Georgia lmao

[sleek spade]

Brah

[tender lotus]

Dw just do daily coin pr/dr

[wary timber]

Shit happens when u take years and months away from the game

[sleek spade]

It’s ok. I also just returned about 5 months ago

[sterile jolt]

She's not bad tho...

[wary timber]

I left I think during one of the events with Russian ships

[tender lotus]

Soyuz event?

[wary timber]

I returned at the last week ish of the event for Alsace

Uhhhh

[sleek spade]

Ah… bad timing

[tender lotus]

Just farm more

[wary timber]

Not sure if it was Soyuz

[tender lotus]

Oh ok

[sleek spade]

Tashkent? Kronstadt?

[wary timber]

I have the Kursk if that's any consolation

[sleek spade]

Ah that one

[wary timber]

The Sovetskaya Rossiya too

Then again my fleet composition doesn't include Russian ships

[south sequoia]

#al-general If none of this is relevant or if you people are not gonna ask for advice

[blissful hamlet]

sandy aug do more damage than hinden?

[south sequoia]

No

[blissful hamlet]

what about plymouth?

[south sequoia]

She is near plymouths damage

But plymouth still wins out

[blissful hamlet]

plymouth killer

[tender lotus]

Well anyway you better build another faction ships
You'll hit a wall soon if you stick with IB ships

[blissful hamlet]

I heard sandy now as tanky as hinden is it true?

[sterile jolt]

Plymouth is a real UR xddd

[south sequoia]

She is about as tanky as portland

[sterile jolt]

Hinden tanky?

[south sequoia]

and it's not like hindenburgs tankiness is anything notable

[blissful hamlet]

that wasn't my question

[south sequoia]

As tanky as portland = higher than hindenburg

[tender lotus]

Lol

[sterile jolt]

Yeah

[wary timber]

So....what's the tankiest CA at this point. I might need to work for that too

[blissful hamlet]

sandy tankier than hinden

[south sequoia]

Serenity did you forget that the UR CAs are not that tanky to begin with?

[sterile jolt]

Plymouth tankier then CA...

[south sequoia]

Anchorage

[tender lotus]

Anchorage

[wary timber]

Next on my build list it is

[south sequoia]

If we count in CBs with CAs it's agir

[blissful hamlet]

seems like people misunderstood my question so let me reprhased, is sandy as durable as hinden?

[tender lotus]

She's more durable than hinded

[sterile jolt]

.

[tender lotus]

As cleo says

[blissful hamlet]

sandy will replace guam then

[sterile jolt]

Guam? Why?

[tender lotus]

I think not

Guam has better support and mechanics than sandy does

[sterile jolt]

Wait, it's not your question xd

[blissful hamlet]

Sandy is the top 5 highest damage in the game and as tanky as portland and the highest AA in the game

[sterile jolt]

Xd ok

Just in this case do whatever you think is the best

[blissful hamlet]

Can't go wrong by following serenity

[unreal narwhal]

I got some problems with my mob fleet in 14-4

[wary timber]

I have a Lutzow. Is she worth leveling and and using her in combat ? Bear in mind that my current IB main fleet ships I can use is Bismarck,Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin

[unreal narwhal]

=w= I don't know why Unicorn always gets hit instead of other main ships and the result is she always the one who sank first in the fleet

[silver lintel]

Unicorn has lowest hp in your mainfleet prolly, also are you able to kill all production boats and bomb boats as well as sub?

[vale gyro]

If shinano, hakuryuu, and implacable are in the same fleet in opsi, who should flagship?

[unreal narwhal]

I think my vanguard ships can do that well

[sterile jolt]

Haku maybe,

[sterile jolt]

Who is this?)))

[unreal narwhal]

=w= I don't know why Unicorn always gets

[sterile jolt]

Lol

[abstract latch]

What should i buy from proto shop?

[vale gyro]

I notice that shinano’s butterflies is position based, so normally I would put her in flag but I remember someone telling me that haku’s better as flag cos of siren killer

Why does siren killer make haku a better flag?

[crimson glacier]

it doesnt

[tame jungle]

then that certain someone is such a special boy that they have to ride the short bus to school

[inland shoal]

It doesn't really matter who of the 2 you put as flag

They both have position based barrages

At least for one config of Haku

[vale gyro]

I see, thanks

[steady beacon]

Cross-fleet min-maxing
If this is not a consideration you care for/wish to exploit then ignore it

[inland shoal]

It's still OpSi and capped at 20% anyway no?

[steady beacon]

It is capped at 20%
Shinano cannot hit 20% though

[inland shoal]

Sure, but at that point it's less than 5% difference (with full +13 Nano as 100%)

[steady beacon]

That's the utter useless nonsense that min-maxing is

Well, I guess one could argue
How many cross-fleets do we have now?
7 BB, 1 DD, 1 CA, 2 CB, and hell throw in 1 CV on top... (just the UR ones)
~4.35% amp for each of them and it adds up I suppose
Still not to that much

[inland shoal]

That demands for augs +13

[dawn hamlet]

Hi I've some red port in OPSI, can they turn blue with a shop at some point?

[crimson glacier]

no

[dawn hamlet]

oh alright thank you

[steady beacon]

They haven't for like four years now
All the port shops are now amalgamated into one anyway, go into any blue port and you can access all four of the shops that used to be confined to their own individual port

[dawn hamlet]

ah so it's one port with shop per zone. I see
thanks

[vale gyro]

What do you mean? Does that mean that shinano flag is better for cross fleet min-maxing?

[crimson glacier]

flag does nothing for cross fleet

[wary timber]

My main vanguard fleet consists of Laffey, Helena and Chang Chun retrofit but my Chang Chun will take a ton of damage and sink followed by Laffey or either Helena after. Should I swap out some of them ?

Or change the positioning of some of them

[hallow iron]

Is there a way to get array other than event if I'm below level 100?

[inland shoal]

Yes, core shop or sth

[inland shoal]

You usually use a tank, I'd swap out Laffey for that assuming you also have s4g and a missile for your Chang Chun

[vale gyro]

Are you referring to shinano or hakuuryu as flag?

[inland shoal]

No, in OpSi technically Haku increases the dmg of the crossfleet by a sliver. At least against Siren enemies

[vale gyro]

Ooooh I get it now

[wary timber]

So basically a tank CA , a CL and a DDG ?

[vale gyro]

Thanks

[inland shoal]

Uhh in your case probably yes
But in general other combinations work and hull types and roles aren't very tightly connected

[crimson glacier]

most CAs arent tanks

[wary timber]

So I sacrifice my torp damage in this case

All right. Thanks.. I'll have to hurry with leveling Prinz Heinrich

[crimson glacier]

your vanguard barely had any torp dmg anyway

[crimson rock]

Is jersey good (the frontline destroyer)

[wary timber]

I used to have more torp damage

[left nest]

the double + triple torpedo mount we got from the last event, which ships make use of it the best?

this one

[crimson glacier]

i dont think anyone wants it

[steady beacon]

You can use it as about equivalent to the Quint 533 (non-mag) if you don't have enough magnetic torpedoes for auto
And second-best for manual face-torping if that sort of thing strikes your fancy for any reason

[left nest]

makes sense, ok

[half plover]

slotting in 3 good mlb ships at lvl 70 for 12-1 vanguard is probably a bad idea isn't it

anch, sandy and mogador

[tame jungle]

If you run unicorn in backline you’ll probably be just fine

[calm rose]

If safe mode + unicorn and properly geared, shouldn't be an issue

[half plover]

my backline is non mlb FdG non mlb avp and saratoga but I can swap sara to uni

[tame jungle]

Oh yeah and safe mode indeed

[half plover]

is this properly geared enough

[calm rose]

Ideally +10 repair but should be okay

Is your Sara max lb?

[half plover]

saratoga is retro 116

[calm rose]

Then use her instead of avp

[mint flint]

are those quint mags?

[half plover]

I need avp sadly for IB main fleet

[calm rose]

Quad

[silver stirrup]

need some help with my nagato any recomendations for gear

[mint flint]

mm nvm i cant count

[calm rose]

You farming for agir or smth?

[half plover]

yeah I am currently farming exp for agir

[calm rose]

Yea it should do. Try it out then

[half plover]

ty

and if I can I want to give sandy the new aug right? I need to save up for it a little bit

[undone plover]

She uses typical BB gear
Where are you using her?
What content?

[silver stirrup]

opsi since im going to be using full sakura fleet

[undone plover]

Against medium/heavy armor you use champy gun
Against light armor u can use triple 406 mk6 or the rainbow mk7 if u can afford it.

Any bb aux gun is fine in opsi. Use sth that gives 45 FP. STAAG for AA
White shell + radar for aux

[sweet merlin]

Who to cog awk first

[fresh tangle]

Finally got around to getting beaver squad tag 😂 who should I put it on?

[copper pine]

aren't there some ships that actually uses better with MP gun vs medium (BB that can offset the spread)

[undone plover]

Boss tank takes beaver tag usually

[fresh tangle]

Portland it is thank you

[undone plover]

Yeah (at least in theory i think) but why spend 120 plates to +13 that gun for very minor boost to dmg

[copper pine]

in theory? NJ benefits a lot vs medium meta ship since she has reduced spread passive on one of her skill

[calm rose]

+13 Marco gun is quite wasteful as you can use champy gun for both medium and heavy. The diff for medium is 🤏 too

[crimson glacier]

how does medium matter for reduced spread

[copper pine]

the gun torva, marco's gun

[undone plover]

Cog awaken stuff when you need to
First four are good targets since u end up using them in ch15 or for hard arbiter but if u dont need to dont do it yet

[crimson glacier]

i dont think that gun is even worth 13

[whole crypt]

sup moggies

[iron tulip]

:mogadoro:

[whole crypt]

MP gun is like... 4% difference with champagne gun for medium

[copper pine]

well its not worth to +13 since champy gun is always better on most cases, but niche uses like medium, mp does win a tiny bit.

[undone plover]

Yes but is the 4% worth 120 plates?

[calm rose]

Too 🤏 to justify gold plates

[whole crypt]

actually less than 4, I can't remember the exact number I calc'd a while ago

I'm not saying it's good enough, it's supposed to be a "MP gun bad"

[copper pine]

do people use gold plate these days other than rainbow weapons??

[glacial heath]

how often does a new chapter come out for campaign?

[crimson glacier]

very rarely

[south sequoia]

In a world with this many ur main guns for vanguards and backlines that 4% difference that only applies when you fulfill its many condition is not worth it

[whole crypt]

there's no regular schedule for main campaign addition

[undone plover]

If u use it on marco gun that is 120 that could have gone into a rainbow

[south sequoia]

W14 and w15 are only recent additions, with w14 taking years before its debut, and w15 being added 2 years after.

[copper pine]

one thing for sure tho.. how many electronics to make mk7?

[steady beacon]

Pre much spot on

[undone plover]

20 if u craft from the gold gun I think
64 if u craft from the purple

[south sequoia]

100% only craft from mkd, it's cheaper

mkd = gold gun path

[whole crypt]

yeh I did the math years ago I remember the ballpark was 4%

[fresh tangle]

Lance or great sword on Portland?

[whole crypt]

CAs/CBs are pretty much always GS

[rose whale]

I only need ur gear print now. between this q and b, which one is higher efficiency?

[inland shoal]

Q

[whole crypt]

B is 🚮

[steady beacon]

Def Q
Q2 is way better than its colour

[rose whale]

thanks

[inland shoal]

B is just a thing you take if there's no Q G or D

[rose whale]

so... how about q1 and q2?

[steady beacon]

I personally take Q2 bc I believe in it
I'm not actually sure if there's any actual evidence for my faith though

[slender heart]

Q1?

[rose whale]

1 hour q research

these 😄

[slender heart]

That's good too

[rose whale]

okay, I'll spam all the q i could find

[whole crypt]

Q2 is better than Q1 because you're not guaranteed another Q1 after your first Q1

[inland shoal]

Q2 just cuz the chance to get another Q is not 100%

[whole crypt]

Q4 should be even better but hey Q0.5 can also drop no rainbow

[slender heart]

School me senpai, what's the tech behind it?

[steady beacon]

Q0.5 can drop rainbows?

[rose whale]

think once upon a time I got 2 ur print from 30 mins q. not sure 🤔

[whole crypt]

even if Q2's rates are only marginally better than Q1, not getting a second Q research after a Q1 is automatically worse rates on average

[slender heart]

You can only get a limited amount of q1 per day or something like that?

[whole crypt]

the rolls are just random, taking a shorter research for refresh doesn't guarantee you good researches after the refresh

[rose whale]

I think it's just basic logic. 1 q2 would be better than just 1 q1, since there is no guarantee for another q1 after that

[steady beacon]

I've def seen it happen (just not to me)
My luck with Q0.5 just seems really bad is all, it just feels like I rarely, if ever, score rainbows prints from it

[slender heart]

Hmm okay, tqtq

[inland shoal]

Not unlikely, 3 is also possible, maybe even 4 with bonus print, I don't quite remember

[inland shoal]

Well in theory you could argue that more refreshes means more chances for 30m researches
But my current theory on 30m researches invalidates that anyway

[steady beacon]

You mean the first 5 rolls of the day thing

(I thought that was confirmed, not just a theory 👀)

[inland shoal]

How would you confirm that?

[whole crypt]

there's no way to confirm unless devs say so, you'd need some really ridiculous sample size to actually prove it

[inland shoal]

It just hasn't been disproven by anyone so far

[whole crypt]

even more ridiculous than testing HM for print rates

[inland shoal]

I mean the probability of me being wrong should already be pretty low since I've been keeping track of my research selections for like 2 years now and have not once encountered a late 30m research. Analysing screenshots is pain though so I don't have any actual numbers

[steady beacon]

I guess I'd take the "falsifiability" approach to it
A good scientific theory is falsifiable
Here, just one single counterexample would be sufficient to disprove the theory

Having passed every test so far, I'd be inclined to trust it in the same way I trust I won't be able to fly jumping off a bridge

[plain saffron]

but can you fly jumping off a bridge

[whole crypt]

test it, we believe in you

[plain saffron]

omw

[steady beacon]

Nagami gonna enlist his waifu's help for the flight of the century

[plain saffron]

time to ride sara('s planes)

[loud rover]

You fly downward

[whole crypt]

for the period you remain airborne you're technically flying

[loud rover]

Don’t forget to flap your arms

[inland shoal]

[ivory harbor]

falling with style

[forest palm]

[ivory harbor]

[frigid linden]

Should I?

[inland shoal]

Hmm I think I'd personally rather get Hood's aug or sth, 21k coins is also a lot
Sara aug is good if you use her tho

[pastel ferry]

Hey, another question (sorry).
The Twin 134mm AA Gun Mount is the one that provides more FP. My brain says it's good to boost FP on every offensive type of ship, but it's not really recommended much. Is it "useless" and actual AA guns preferred or are there some ships that would really benefit from using it?

[inland shoal]

Whenever you need AA use actual AA guns, otherwise ships that do a lot of FP based dmg like this. Other ships might like Staag more for the hit

[pastel ferry]

I was thinking about putting it on Kronshtadt for example

[frank pulsar]

depends on the situation, in campaign youd almost always want a proper aa gun on your vanguard
for boss fights like arbiter or META its fine to use it
in the case of your backline, staag is preferred as hit is a more valuable stat in most cases

[pastel ferry]

I only have 3 of them so yea, not many anyway, often times I use ones that provide Hit bonus stat

[frank pulsar]

anyway its not a priority to make them

[pastel ferry]

Thank you for the big explanation. 🙂

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks you two

[dawn hamlet]

In opsi, after doing a zone with the shiny golden chest, the shiny golden chest is still there, I'm doing something wrong?

[steady beacon]

You might have had two (or more) loggers for that same zone

[rapid grail]

only w12, 13, their HM versions and w15 need proper AA guns

and if you get worlds 12 and 13 (latter may want an AA focused ship) to safe then you can reasonably use the AA that gives +FP and do well

[rapid grail]

beat the hidden zone and then leave
or there's the sitatuion pilica said

[dawn hamlet]

ohhh okay must be that then, will redo it again thanks

[pastel ferry]

I see. I am at W14-3 at the moment. Can't really crack it haha.
Are Hit stat AA only recommended for the back or does it make sense to put them on Heavy Cruisers as well ?

[rapid grail]

HIT/ACC stat makes it more likely for your ship's guns, torps and airstrike to hit enemies. Counters high EVA, which the world 14 and 15 enemies have. Especially with concealment stuff

[pastel ferry]

Ohhh, I see. That's good to know. Thank you as well!

[rapid grail]

atm I think the recs for w14 AA are:
HIT guns for backline and 134s for frontline

[steady beacon]

Ah, the great debate...
My personal rule is STAAG on frontline if I'm really relying on their torpedoes hitting versus bosses
Twin 134 otherwise
Ngl, I'm pre sure I went in with proper AA guns for W14
Iirc what few planes there are can get annoying if they fly into your backline en masse and break concealment, but how much AA you actually need I'm not 100% sure

[pastel ferry]

Oh, Hit also helps with Torpedoes?

[steady beacon]

Hit helps with everything that goes through the hit rate calculation

[forest palm]

the whole "STAAG is for Main Fleet only" is a touch boomer, because it wasn't as widely available

[pastel ferry]

And yea, I dont think AA is my problem tackling 14-3.
I was just curious in general aboute the 134 and hit in general

[rapid grail]

yea, forgot about that and is rectified. usually DDs are good with torps and have good HIT acc by default

[vagrant spoke]

So torps could not deal damage even though they touch a ship?

[steady beacon]

Anything can possibly miss even if it "physically" hits the target

[calm rose]

Instead of damage numbers you'll see "miss"

[steady beacon]

Torp, shell, bomb, barrage, etc.

[keen sable]

rpg dodge yes

[vagrant spoke]

[pastel ferry]

lol, i have a weird bug.
I go to my dock click on the first ship, swipe right and when i get to the fourth ship the swipe animation changes and i cant swipe anymore. then trying to go back it is stuck loading forever. If i do the same without ships being filtered by BBs its all normal lol

[plain saffron]

try repair assets

[forest palm]

this is why Hit is such a valuable stat to your main fleet

[vagrant spoke]

Do ap bb shells have splash damage or do they need to land on the ship

[steady beacon]

All BB shells (and CB shells, for that matter) have splash damage