gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

With Stalingrad pointed at your broadside

[topaz smelt]

cant wait for everyone to craft 3 mk7s to endup using 1

[plain saffron]

i predicted using AI and 3 BB mk7 and no helena can't kill it

[topaz smelt]

skill issue

just crit

[sweet delta]

are your model parameters open source?

[plain saffron]

no

just trust me bro™️

[eager mulch]

I’d trust cheeky over you

[plain saffron]

you'll regret

[elfin hollow]

Hi

[eager mulch]

I already do

[sharp socket]

do u guys have a glossary for all the nicknames yall give to ships and gear

[remote yarrow]

I think we do?

Yeah we do
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/tools

Tho I think it's outdated and some of them aren't really used

[eager mulch]

[vale spindle]

Man did not read the description

which is in the same row btw

[topaz smelt]

smh just make up your own names

[cobalt rapids]

pinamont

[slow fox]

IPH

[forest palm]

me who just finds it easier to memorize caliber, and make number

[south sequoia]

No.

[frank pulsar]

mash

[woeful laurel]

anyone got a good drake loadout not using UR guns? just wanna give her some gear to make her good and leave the gears on her permanently

[eager mulch]

twin 234mm, quad mags, <AA gun>, rudder, toolbox done go next

[sly raven]

is independence worth 125?

[novel condor]

yes

[woeful laurel]

this ya?

ayt thank you

[sly raven]

whats the reasoning

[eager mulch]

strong

done go next

[novel condor]

well, shes a very good CV mobber, especially in W13+

[woeful laurel]

she can be used in higher world levels and you'd want more stats if ever

[sly raven]

alr i guess i will 125 her before comitting to avp

Which should I mlb ( I'm done with w12 looking to clear w13 btw)

[cobalt rapids]

alsace > shinano

[sly raven]

and whats better between the two cbs?

[cobalt rapids]

guam

[crimson glacier]

id rather focus on shinano than alsace

[forest palm]

either
Alsace → Shinano → Guam → New Jersey ~ Mog
Shinano → Alsace → Guam → New Jersey ~ Mog

[crimson glacier]

its kinda hard to say if id want to do nj or mog first

[forest palm]

that's why I don't use an arrow

[crimson glacier]

either way theres probably going to be new UR anyway before you get to pick either

[sly raven]

damn is kron that bad?

[forest palm]

bad? no, just not a lot of use case these days

[sly raven]

oh

[frank pulsar]

shes not bad, just opportunity cost
cuz you can get enough tanks for opsi from just research alone

[crimson glacier]

kinda like NJ, theres just many better ships for her role

but unlike NJ there isnt really a need for tons of tanks, meanwhile dps is dps

[sly raven]

i see

[forest palm]

I personally still use Kron for mobbing, but similarly you can use Brest to the same effect, even lesser would be Azuma

[late flame]

i get the same vibes for mog tbh
too many ships can fill her role equally well if not better

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt say so

[forest palm]

that's the problem with ships that are purely focused on Damage, you only really need 1 to 2, and you have Hindenburg, and Unzen, so Mog just doesn't really exist, that's why I personally value utility in the vanguard more than damage, utility can include being a tank

[remote yarrow]

imo for vanguards unless they really excel in damage, if they don't have some sort of supporting ability or debuff that helps mainline do dmg are kinda

[forest palm]

utility

[late flame]

100% proc helena when

[remote yarrow]

now that I look at it, my opinion is really similar to Taz

[forest palm]

in a way it's like plain vanilla ice cream, bland, and not flavorful

[slow fox]

based

[sweet merlin]

Is the new opsi meta good?

[remote yarrow]

People haven't tested her yet

Mainly because they can't until 25k points

[late flame]

like ask again 1 week later

[sweet merlin]

Her design looks cool tho

[topaz smelt]

pretty hard to say shes good based on datamines

[sweet merlin]

Go do opsi

[forest palm]

8 days to unlock, 21 days to MLB, about 20~ish days to Max Skill w/o books

[remote yarrow]

Why don't you do it

[viscid swift]

We are
Why don't you as well

[forest palm]

time to invest in a time machine

[remote yarrow]

Well cya

[fresh tangle]

Just hit fleet tech for Seattle or I could detour for 200IB points for Gascogne. Do I just sit tight?

[forest palm]

wouldn't really bother with either of them

[fresh tangle]

Alright haha. Will sit ok it and wait until FdG

90 points until anchorage too is nice

[sharp socket]

is w14 particularly difficult

i read some things about manual until safe level

[tranquil saffron]

What ships and equipment do you have

If you've got good ships and good equipment it's not bad

[forest palm]

no content ever requires you manual it

[eternal plinth]

You can auto w15 ?? 😭

[forest palm]

[tranquil saffron]

YouTube, there's quite a number of videos on that

[forest palm]

don't do that

[eternal plinth]

💀 still struggling to manual it but not in a huge rush to clear it so it’s eh

[forest palm]

we have literal bot commands

[eternal plinth]

I don’t have all the preferential ships which complicates things

[zinc turret]

So did if i use the repair here the debuff will be gone ?

[late flame]

you can also wait until you get the required ships, find substitutes for them and such
closest i'll ever refer to YT is probably those posted in#media-content

+its not like you need to rush end-game content since there's no time limit or any special achievement to be had

[forest palm]

no, you need to go to port to remove that

[slow fox]

Can't he also win a battle to remove that buff?

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Sinking_/_Loss

[forest palm]

Low Resolve is fixed by battle, Tolls of War is not

[timid plover]

best gun for alsace as a relatively new player? (lvl 70)

[forest palm]

Triple 406 Mk6

[zinc turret]

Owh okay that pretty cheap to repair than using the order i guess

[late flame]

why not use repair items first (these are usually plentiful) before clicking port repair

[zinc turret]

I just tried do the normal c7 arbiter and 1x enter the battle my best fleet only do like ... 10% of the arbiter hp

[zinc turret]

Well... the item wont help with the debuff

[late flame]

it will bring down the cost required at port

+heal items do not carry over for next month reset

[zinc turret]

I see

I will do it next time then

[old zodiac]

so uhm knowing my portland is on my boss fleet is it good to put eugen on my mob fleet along with laffey and another ship?

[wind hazel]

ideally use some better ship than eugen

[old zodiac]

brennus?

[sharp socket]

currently at 75% 13-2, waiting on morale (and oil)

avp soon, agir not soon

[wind hazel]

if she's mlb sure

[sharp socket]

my fleet comp is farming cdc for avp dont worry about it

[old zodiac]

alr

[frank pulsar]

yr kinda lacking in vanguard options

backline wise tho youll be fine for w14

id recommend you grab kawakaze from merit

[tranquil saffron]

Volga is also going to come in handy

[sharp socket]

im going to mlb her and send to leveling

dunno if volga or jda tho

[late flame]

volga and jda do different things

[atomic abyss]

CV and CL

[sharp socket]

i have alot of cv and my vanguard like he said is lacking

[frank pulsar]

if youre gonna raise jda you can slot her in boss

[sharp socket]

jda also helps make vanguard live more

[tranquil saffron]

Start coining FDG

[sharp socket]

already doing that

im still ~8 weeks away

[frank pulsar]

smth like portland + kawakaze + sandy for mob and ancho + laffey + jda for boss maybe?

[fresh tangle]

For Alsace which?

[frank pulsar]

purple one is miles better

[atomic abyss]

purple
that gold gun is so bad it should be scrapped

[sharp socket]

wait where kawakaze

[tranquil saffron]

Merit shop

[sharp socket]

i think i bought atago for IJN tech

[frank pulsar]

.

[atomic abyss]

atago is CA
kawakazae is DD

[frank pulsar]

no rush anyways

[sharp socket]

ah so not here for me then

lil enty currently has BB and CA

[frank pulsar]

merit is not the same as medal

[late flame]

merit is pvp shop

[frank pulsar]

merit shop is the place where you spend merit earnt from pvp

[sharp socket]

oh

[frank pulsar]

its completely random what ssr appears each refresh

[sharp socket]

also not here

[atomic abyss]

check everyday

[tranquil saffron]

Just check every day

[sharp socket]

it refreshes daily?

[frank pulsar]

i had to wait over 2 weeks for dork, gotta be patient
you need to wait for fdg anyway

[atomic abyss]

yes it does

[tranquil saffron]

I had to check every day for a month, I was quite unlucky

[sharp socket]

i thought it refreshed on new pvp season which is like every week

[atomic abyss]

new pvp season is every 2 weeks tho...

[sharp socket]

oh

[sweet delta]

I don't recommend buying kawakaze

[frank pulsar]

what do you suggest then

[sharp socket]

why is kawakaze good or is she not

[atomic abyss]

kawakaze is great

...with her unique augment

[sharp socket]

i have tashkent on my boss with mog gun

[sweet delta]

Kawakaze is a little better than an oathed laffey and a little better than your ready-made tashkent, and kawakaze costs a lot compared to those

[atomic abyss]

tho frankly there aren't really any better SRs in the medal shop anyways...

[sharp socket]

ancho helena as the other vanguard

[frank pulsar]

i thought her output was higher than that

helena is deadweight in w14

[thorn shoal]

how's this for her gear

[atomic abyss]

with some upgrades it'll be fine

[sweet delta]

There's a new DD gun on the block and kawa doesn't use it. Sandy can go with 100 Kai or 114, mog gun can go to laffey or tashkent

[frank pulsar]

just make sure you level up the stuff to +10 and youre good

[sharp socket]

oh helena bad in w14?

[sweet delta]

Or Tashkent uses a Russian gun which is not really obtainable

[thorn shoal]

of course, thanks

[sharp socket]

laffey has the 135mm twin

[sweet delta]

Using a Russian gun is only like 5% more DPS compared to a hypothetical non-russian gun with identical stats, so don't worry about it

For boss it can be Anchorage/Portland + Jeanne + Montpelier/takao if you have mont or takao augment. If not, then wait and see agir or next event

[old zodiac]

what augment good for unicorn?

[frank pulsar]

scepter

[old zodiac]

aight

[sharp socket]

i do have mont aug actually

[frank pulsar]

you pretty much never want to use bow

[crisp estuary]

[sharp socket]

she also has 2.5mil xp overflow

so anyway should i start raising jda or volga

[topaz smelt]

why not both

[sharp socket]

purin

i only have 3

actually its monday server time so 4th one soonish

[sweet delta]

Jeanne may be more immediately useful in other boss fights ||wichitam||

[sharp socket]

jda and volga are each 1lb anyway

[topaz smelt]

kinda depends what you have and what content youre trying to push

[sharp socket]

i said that up there

working on w14 is my goal

specifically if i get to 14-3 ill be happy cause i did some math and thats my next dockspace breakpoint

[topaz smelt]

jda is a pretty safe pick on boss

but mobbing is typically the harder part in 14

[sharp socket]

hmm

[topaz smelt]

fdg + uni + ply/brest is typically the core for mobbing tho

[sharp socket]

will fdg replace hood once shes dev30/fs5

or is it a “depends” situation

[hallow iron]

Jeanne d'arc? She's good in the meta fight?

[topaz smelt]

id prob take fdg in most

[sharp socket]

where can i get a gold oxytorp

[topaz smelt]

ijn boxes iirc

[sharp socket]

torp requirement for hard mode is keeping me at 9-4h

[sweet delta]

Not top top tier, but considering this dock, she is definitely in the team

[sharp socket]

its fine gear will carry me surely

[topaz smelt]

gear will get you thru 13, 14+ is where comps start mattering

[kind needle]

Where can I put harbin? (Or I shouldn’t use her for now at opsi?)

[hallow iron]

Who else with her? Helena?

[topaz smelt]

i dont see jda being useful

[sweet delta]

Replace Scylla or changchun

[sharp socket]

another qn, does bzwei, NJ or soyuz prefer flag

this is for guild boss

[sweet delta]

If you had Plymouth, then the highest damage one (usually Bisz) would take flag

But because you're borrowing from other players, Bisz may not be geared correctly and may do worse

[sharp socket]

i was able to get 301 score last time but now i get 285, so probably geared badly then

oh now the pings come in my guild server, prob changing gears

[topaz smelt]

score doesnt really matter

[elfin hollow]

Which ship should I give the Wyvern to?

[topaz smelt]

your best tb slot in mob fleet

[zinc turret]

Unicorn

[shell willow]

whats the place to farm for best coin/oil ratio?

[graceful light]

i was told 12-1 for best ratio for exp and 12-4 for best ratio for coins

[topaz smelt]

prob 14-4 or 15-4

[graceful light]

w14?

[topaz smelt]

if you dont care for exp for whatever reason yes

[shell willow]

[graceful light]

sleepy stronk enough to step into w13+?

[shell willow]

im at 14-2 atm, but i havent touched main q in quite long, i could maybe clear it because i got stronger since then

[graceful light]

try for 14-4 then ig

[topaz smelt]

its better but youre prob losing more than you gain

[silver lintel]

Is alsace bz soyuz the new best 3 bbs

[shell willow]

ty guys

[graceful light]

like together or just the BBs in general? i didnt think a BB already surpassed mushashi besides bisckmackrel z

[elfin hollow]

With Bismarck zwezi?

[crimson glacier]

bz is bisko zwei

and it kinda depends what you want, if campaign is any importance then musashi is way better than alsace or soyuz imo

[plain saffron]

which daily stage is the one with a lot of torp boats?

[old zodiac]

best ugment for portland?

[kind needle]

Idk if fleet 2 is messed up or not, kinda wanting to put laffey and remove the ddg duo completely

[uncut oar]

Why is aurora ot not poikai

[crimson glacier]

aurora should be on the middle

[topaz smelt]

usually with augments when in doubt throw a sword at it

[old zodiac]

aight

[midnight bluff]

Is the upcoming rerun event going to be on the 19th? Or the date has yet to be assigned?

[hallow iron]

Pr7 on 19th?

[plain saffron]

rerun prob 20, new KMS raid(?) 27

[uncut oar]

Isn't rondo hard confirmed on 20

[steady beacon]

It is

[uncut oar]

Yeah figured

[shell willow]

where can i find similar guide to /w15 command one, but for w14?

[flint arrow]

Hey I have a question, I've had a long semi-break from the game and didnt do opsi in like a year or something

last time i was doing it i could activate auto and not touch the game till energy ran out

but now it stops at every map with this

[plain saffron]

wichita META ashen might barrage and skill 3 orbital cannon

That was a shitty footage for ashen might

[pearl creek]

Is there too much difference between a dev lvl 20 and lvl 30 PR ship?

[plain saffron]

Yes

[crimson glacier]

massive difference

[boreal oriole]

More reason to get her asap and let her sink fast

[pearl creek]

Ty! Was wondering if, for example, my lvl 21 Kearsage would be better than another tier EX UR, but I guess is better to wait and try to get lvl 30 first

[crimson glacier]

kear d21 is like T2

[topaz smelt]

non d30 ships are just shit

[pearl creek]

I see I see, thanks a lot!

[plain saffron]

With few exceptions

[vale spindle]

anchorage dev 25 pogu

[calm rose]

you need to turn on "reduce TB guidance" in settings

[flint arrow]

thanks i will try that

[half plover]

is flapjack the best fighter and better than golden seafang or golden hellcat?

if I dont mistake the different plane types again

[inner delta]

yes

[half plover]

do I want it at +10 or push it higher than that

[rapid grail]

in general content, yea it's among the best.
people prefer it a lot in pve too since it does great aa intercept, crucial in world 15

[half plover]

ty

also does hard9+ have oil cap as well?

[rapid grail]

you could +13 it, but as it goes there's a lot of planes that have priority over fighters in general
Tenrai/s, the three flavors of converging TBs, rocket planes.
from experience, +10 flapjacks are enough to clear entirety of campaign and the minmaxing is solely for harder content

[half plover]

alr

[sharp socket]

is bf-109 the converging plane

[plain saffron]

No it's a rocket fighter

[sharp socket]

but it shoots things that converge right

[plain saffron]

Well technically they do, but converging usually refers to torp

[rapid grail]

that is a Rocket fighter plane
doesn't have AA intercept capabilities in exchange for rockets that deal great damage against Medium armor enemies and good Light armor enemies

[sharp socket]

same difference

[plain saffron]

Welp just don't be confused if some people don't really understand your question

[sharp socket]

converge only useful with slow or stops right like unzen/ark royal

[plain saffron]

Also Implacable, avp

[sharp socket]

ah thatd be nice, ill get avp soonish

[plain saffron]

It also can be used if boss doesn't move, or the timing fit their stop time

Like the launch time fits when they stop moving, in their movements patterns

[sharp socket]

ah

i guess ill figure those out when i hit a wall

[pearl creek]

Looking for help building my opsi fleets
Any recommended go for or strat? Or if someone has the time to look through what I have / can use?
URs I miss: Shimakaze, Ulrich, Yuudachi, Guam, Laffey II, Sovetsky Soyuz

[tacit forum]

Hey guys a quick question is there a website for al team compositions?

[bright gale]

I need help to equip Laffey II at the aux. i don'T have the Gamers Mark or the Team Emblem. both for PvP, Siren

[opal bone]

Is it bad using ships when they have a low mood?

[plain saffron]

Lose affinity, half exp

[wary timber]

For Shimakaze's supporting torp barrage, does that barrage use whatever torps she's equipped with or just standard torps

[opal bone]

Is the affinity important for anything?

[plain saffron]

Minor stat boost

Also 1 more, annoying popup every battle

[opal bone]

Yeah that is really annoying

[wary timber]

Also your shipgirls will start to hate u

[atomic rock]

is howe bad without the faction synergy?

[inner delta]

howe good.

[atomic rock]

I meant, when we're not sorting her with them hms requirements

[inner delta]

yeah

howe is just good

[atomic rock]

Thank

[thorny cobalt]

how do i build a exp farm fleet for 9-1?

[novel condor]

Just get it to safe mode n just grind over n over again

[sharp socket]

does the level of my cv affect the hit rate of plane against higher level enemy

[crimson glacier]

well levels give you more hit stat

[steady beacon]

That and level difference also factors directly into the hit rate calculation (same amount as LCK)

[novel condor]

Depends on who's in your dock tbh, would prob be better if you post your dock in a thread

[novel condor]

Team comps depends on who's in your dock and what content you're trying to push , you can ask here for help if your still unsure

[steady beacon]

In terms of the most general guideline for building the four fleets, most people go for 1 clearing fleet, 1 BB boss fleet, 1 CV boss fleet, then the fourth fleet can be whatever you want it to be (third boss, cross-fleet storage, etc.)
But as Tosh said, in terms of specific advice, easier to create a thread

[hallow iron]

Does a Cv boss fleet contain all Cv or 1 bb and 2 Cv?

[digital vault]

I have these 4 and U-47. What should my team look like for lvl 95 daily challenge?

[novel condor]

Typically 3 CVs

[crimson glacier]

doesnt matter which 3 you use for the challenge

[novel condor]

Assuming they are properly leveled and geared, should be fine and as torva said, you can use of of them

[digital vault]

last time i challenged it was like 2 years ago and I was struggling

[crimson glacier]

it still doesnt change anything

skills dont work on the challenge so barely anything matters

[late flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQgHA64CmAc

cheat code: RF - but do not buy her from shop lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmZ27PVEAs

[digital vault]

wth, so i just need to invest on her

[late flame]

only if you already have RF + her guns yes

[crimson glacier]

idk if i would say invest since you can just leave all skills to lvl 1

[digital vault]

yea i alr have her

not sure abt the gun

3 old heavy cannon

somehow i dont got the 12 pound one

I also dont have these, do i need them

[crimson glacier]

no

[faint jacinth]

hello guys! what to worry on w12? im almost done on w11.

[atomic abyss]

planes really

just ensure you got some gold AA guns plopped on and you should be fine with 2 fleets and enough levels

[faint jacinth]

i see and what farming stage there?

[atomic abyss]

any of them are good for farming

[pearl creek]

Thanks! Will create one asap

[atomic abyss]

great for levelling low level ships

[faint jacinth]

oh

[steady beacon]

For an OpSi boss fleet the two standard compositions now are Hakuryuu/Shinano/Implacable (3 CV) and Yorktown/Kearsarge/Implacable (or AvP, but only if you use two CV fleets/don't have Implacable) (2 CV + 1 BBV)
Lower level compositions typically use straight 3 CV since you must stuff your ARA into the vanguard, so this maximises the buff, although some situations can use Soyuz + 2 CV

[tropic tusk]

is Emden good?

[crimson glacier]

good isnt the word id use

[pearl creek]

Help building OPSI fleets

[gentle tendon]

What's the website to see recommended build for ships? I forgor

[pearl creek]

Community tier list?
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[novel solstice]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home?ship=shinano This site is the usually recommended one.

[gentle tendon]

Yea that's the one thanks

[regal blaze]

World 15 from 2 to 4 stage

[gloomy mesa]

Would these be better on Alsace then what she currently has?

[tacit forum]

well for now I just want to do level/map 13 and onwards, I dont have every ship but most of the ex tier from the community tier list.

[gentle tendon]

What stage is good to farm exp?

[tacit forum]

Btw does anyone know a good OperationSirene explanation video?

[gloomy mesa]

Sorry discord crashed. Here what she currently has

[atomic abyss]

Yes for left
Always us CL guns for secondaries for BBs if possible

[pearl creek]

I usually do 12-4 for an easy clear and can usually slot one or two lower ships

[atomic abyss]

There isn't any updated ones unfortunately

[gentle tendon]

Aight

[pearl creek]

If anyone can help with opsi fleets I'll be eternally thankful 🙏

[novel condor]

Hmm in that case, you would get a suggested fleet comp if you post your dock in a thread and we prob can help you

[tacit forum]

ok, what about beginner guide, I never relly paid attention to it so getting startet wouild be a good idea

[tacit forum]

Ok thanks which thread and just a screenshot of my dock?

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren

[novel condor]

You can make your own thread, and yes post your dock

[hallow iron]

Thanks for the detail guide, I noted it down

[tacit forum]

Thanks

[tacit forum]

Sorry for the question were do I make the thread?

[crisp obsidian]

Hello. Is it worth to spend 15 of my yellow Augment Module Cores on the BIS(?) Augment for my Z23?
If not, is augmenting even worth it?
And if yes, then which one of these should I put on my Tank(Prinz Heinrich)?

[inner delta]

dont worry much about augment, seems like you are semi newer

[crisp obsidian]

I just have 22 of these yellow augment thingies and the slots are empty, so if it would give me advantage in battles why not.

[inner delta]

it's not a big advantage and it's expensive

[late flame]

edit : if you have less than 30k coins skip augment

[dawn hamlet]

Hi does little fried give some tech point?

[late flame]

nope

[dawn hamlet]

aight, thank you

[eager abyss]

what should I do with a second new jersey

[late flame]

retire her.

[eager abyss]

aw man

[late flame]

assuming you have her at MLB (max limit break). no point raising a dupe

[keen sable]

Hood > z23

[faint jacinth]

damn my first w12 expriences, my second fleet getting wrecked by planes

[novel condor]

theres not much planes in w12 tho

[faint jacinth]

my second fleet aa sucks

[novel condor]

which fleet is that boss or mob?

[faint jacinth]

mob, ye i need to invest aa on there now

[novel condor]

sounds like a gear issue

[faint jacinth]

my gear sucks too

[novel condor]

what kind of gear you running? surely its at least poverty?

[faint jacinth]

purple half of it

[novel condor]

so do you want fleet n gear improvement?

[faint jacinth]

[shut hedge]

how do you fix hash file check failed. try again?

ive tried uninstall install it still shows

[novel condor]

you can try asking in #tech-support

[unreal narwhal]

Sir/madam, sorry for being too late but I've succesfully finish the 14-3. Thank you so much =ww=

[novel condor]

nice try 14-4 then

[unreal narwhal]

Okay

[whole crypt]

where is sandy sitting for eHP after the augment?

[steady beacon]

[silver lintel]

Sandy tankier than portland lol?

[eternal basalt]

UR vs Elite

[steady beacon]

You'd still have to bribe me to put her main tank tbh

[vagrant spoke]

What is this spreadsheet with ehp?

[steady beacon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/edit?gid=1231361331#gid=1231361331
Here you go

If you need any explanation of methodology etc. @slow fox can help

[whole crypt]

that's actually just behind Plymouth

mog gun Sandy is in same ballpark as Plymouth now?

[steady beacon]

Something like that ye

[south sequoia]

what armor?

last I saw plymouth beat sandy by a long mile in heavy

well its not that long but sandy was behind by 100k

[eternal basalt]

Ehp... not damage

[south sequoia]

woops

[steady beacon]

Ngl, in a previous era, I'd be interested in her for the Helena META fight before that became utterly trivial
Well, good to have in the storeroom for whenever a boss of that ilk appears
Devil when?

[whole crypt]

eh I can't remember whose damage screen it was but I think it was on gemini and the numbers weren't that far off, I haven't tested personally though

my mog gun is stuck on Harbin now, I'm actually thinking whether it'll be an improvement to swap to Sandy for OS mob

[whole crypt]

eHP was 2 lines ago it's damage now

[trim path]

do i go plymouth after all of pr4?

[novel condor]

Yep do ya have FDG tho?

[undone plover]

I would personally do harbin first since u can dev30 her with the catchup but if u dont have chinese ships ready it will be hard so go for who ever
Do you have 1 each of PR1-3 developed already?

[trim path]

yes

[trim path]

no. so far i've got saint louis, fdg, and all pr4

[undone plover]

Then do someone from pr3 or harbin/plymouth imo

[trim path]

👍

[pearl creek]

This Alsace's gear ok? What can I change / improve?

[undone plover]

Where are you using her?

[silent latch]

is reno good for chapter 2

[late flame]

if you are new, no

[forest palm]

Reno just isn't good in general

[pearl creek]

opsi / bb boss fleet

[late flame]

nvm thought she gave fp, its anti-air+2 tech at 120

[undone plover]

If she is on your bb fleet you usually use champy gun vs med/heavy
Mk6 or mk7 for light armor
In mob your setup is fine

U can use your setup vs heavy/medium but it is not optimal if you run helena

[silent latch]

is chang chun gud

[late flame]

when retrofitted into DDG yes

[pearl creek]

Yeah I was running helena too, so swapping those, ty!

[undone plover]

Does 457 need radar for 5 salvo?

[frank pulsar]

iirc with sandy new aug 100 kai > mog gun on her so just keep it on harbin

[shell willow]

is there any info on upcoming UR reruns?

[frank pulsar]

afaik no

we only know whos next in line for ur rerun (vanguard), no exact date

[undone plover]

Only the initial running order which so far has not changed for UR reruns
So if the pattern holds we will have vanguard> musashi > ykii etc

No idea about when tho

[shell willow]

i see, thanks

[flint wyvern]

Are the UR on the banner worth it? I haven’t played the game since musashi😭😭

[south sequoia]

In permanent? they are worth it HOWEVER you should not spend cubes on the permanent banner recklessly for them

[barren flame]

should I skip Vanguard for Musashi?

[tame jungle]

What’s your cube situation

[south sequoia]

We don't know their rerun dates for you to decide now.

[sharp socket]

whats a good pr3 ship to build

[tame jungle]

Cheshire

[pearl creek]

if I run champy on Alsace and mk7 on bismarck
Should I use sg radar on Helena?

[undone plover]

U also get 44 pulls
Use em first then come ask when that happens
Alot of things can change until rerun

[forest palm]

Musashi could be phased out with the next UR

[undone plover]

If u run hpfcr on your BB
Run radar on helena too
But dont run mk7 and champy in the same fleet

[tame jungle]

Helena SG timer 16s and those guns fire at 20 so you can see how that works out in the timing

[pearl creek]

ooooh gotcha, thanks a lot!
Should I change then bismarck weapon too?

[shell willow]

wait really? i thought she was like super good even among the best ships

[sharp socket]

plane damage doesnt change from enhancing right

[tame jungle]

Phased out being added to perma i think

[shell willow]

ohhh

[pseudo hearth]

Other than Sandy’s, are any of the other new augments noteworthy?

[tame jungle]

Plane crash damage or armament damage?

[sharp socket]

armament damage

[undone plover]

You should gear your BB depending on enemy
If u are fighting light armor boss
Triple mk6 or triple mk7 (if u can afford it)

If u are vs med/heavy
Triple champy

Assuming triple BB fleet

[tame jungle]

Armament damage DOES change with enhancing, you can see it in the bomb and gun damage directly

[silver lintel]

Does uvh on flag deal more dmg than fdg?

[sharp socket]

ah alright then

[pearl creek]

Ah damn, I get everything now, ty

[frigid linden]

Is more barrel = better?

[undone plover]

Probably depends on how many barrage they each get
Also iirc uvh slightly better vs light armor

[sharp socket]

not always

[forest palm]

when Soyuz, Alsace do a similar if not better job in most other aspects, and Musashi's only real claim right now is Heavy Armor her job is very tentative

[sharp socket]

gun strength have to check damage modifiers (there are alot)

[flint wyvern]

Should I just save my pulls??

[vagrant harness]

Should i use bp to buy this? I dont have this

[frigid linden]

I’m new so I just put guns with the most barrel

[undone plover]

Did you buy champy gun + tenrai first?

[south sequoia]

Save pulls for event banners, do 1 light build a day for daily mission and to build pity stacks

[silver lintel]

Musashi still the best campaign ur never forget

[flint wyvern]

Okay cause these were the formations I left off using when I took a break and I’m currently trying to further improve them

[vagrant harness]

Whats champy gun again? And tenrai the UR cv? I think i have 1 of those

[silver lintel]

Is vanguard phased out with alsace

[forest palm]

don't think so

[vagrant harness]

This all the ur gear i have

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)#Type_0-0

It is in the series 3 yellow blueprints
U buy 20 each month till u have three guns

[vagrant harness]

I hab 2.

[steady beacon]

With good enough tech/cats/oath, you don't need radars to achieve 5 on at least some UR BBs
I'd still recommend it because nobody is ever going to convince me out of accuracy against Arbiters

[frigid linden]

I need help judging my fleet, I’ve only been playing for a week, left is my boss fleet and right is my mob fleet

[steady beacon]

And with serendipitous timing, I just was doing a little testing with the USS CV fleet and was experimenting with double shell Kear
Turns out hitting debuff intervals does not compensate for giving up that accuracy as I've kinda always known

[undone plover]

Are you focusing series 4?
Did u buy all the tenrai prints?
U want to get 2 tenrai by the time u finish pr4

So if can still buy tenrai imo do so first
Buy the third champy gun as well

Extra protocore after that can go into the CL gun (plymouth gun) or the BB gun u asked about
I think since u have the plymouth gun already get the bb gun first

[vestal thistle]

Wtf is kancolle

[undone plover]

Oh yeah I was purely interested in the timing tbh not counting for the acc diff
ngl I almost pinged u seeing as u are the georgia cultist

[rapid grail]

kantai collection, a bote game that precedes AL

[vestal thistle]

Thought it was part of al
Really couldn't find game play

[undone plover]

Very early. Stick to 1 fleet
Replace phoenix w helena and push to chapter 9
Limit break the ships u are using
Retrofit unicorn>portland>javelin

[sharp socket]

if you're not at w9 yet dont bother with 2 fleet

[undone plover]

Aslo get enterprise from the rookie missions when u finish them

[rapid grail]

Impressive, a UR ship in just a week of gameplay

to answer, focus on one fleet for now. A second fleet can wait

[flint wyvern]

Is there a research priority guide anywhere?

[zinc turret]

some say u will be fine with 1 fleet till w12

[vagrant harness]

Focus is on PR6 now
i havent bought all tenrai prints

[rapid grail]

gear priority or ship prints priority?

[frigid linden]

Ahhh I see I see. Thank you.
I’ve already half retrofitted Portland should I continue or focus on unicorn instead?

[sharp socket]

finish portland

[undone plover]

Usually ppl focus pr4 till finishing it and getting 2nd tenrai (with 50 BP from protocore or however many u need)

If u are doing 6 for a reason and wont go b to 4 then sure get the third champy gun and the gun u mentioned

If u wanna go b to 4 get the tenrai first
Up to u

U will have enough protocore for all of the UR gear eventually

[sharp socket]

you need to anyway for newbie mission

[tame jungle]

And you will want to have uni retro as well

[undone plover]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
Read this

[vagrant harness]

Whats the third champy gun for?

[sharp socket]

when i was starting i was told portland > starter > saratoga > unicorn > others

for retro order

[undone plover]

Usually u run triple BB in opsi boss fleet
Also in certain bosses like CM or META bosses
Triple champy is good for those occassions
And it is very cheap in protoshop
There are sidegrades but having 3 is recommended

Should be unicorn first tbh since she makes everything so trivial post retro

[whole crypt]

if you were around for Soyuz you can get away with 1

third one do PR6 and get a Flandre gun so you save some proto cores for other stuff

[steady beacon]

The trick is don't use BB boss fleets, then 0 is enough

[whole crypt]

but you'll end up taking longer to make planes for CV fleet

[turbid dawn]

Is there no better HE gun for CBs then the Azuma gun still? It seems to do really poorly

[whole crypt]

Agir damage isn't great to start with and you don't want a HE gun on her

[undone plover]

Well not like u run CB for dmg anyway

[whole crypt]

Guam and Kronshtadt better damage

[undone plover]

But how do you get an MLB kron

[plain saffron]

it's the only HE CB gun

[turbid dawn]

I mean for this new meta fight you need the Kron gun for Kron right? And against light armour she's gonna do even worse, no?

[steady beacon]

More specifically, the reason you typically keep AP gun on Agir is (1) faster firing = better (theoretical) uptime for the armour break and (2) 15% DMG RED is absolutely nothing to scoff at

[plain saffron]

based on current data, this meta fight is very heavy pressure on vg, might need to go 2 tank

[whole crypt]

if you use HE gun on Agir she might very well just die even faster

[turbid dawn]

Yeah ig its still level 10, they don't even get to the 20s mark before she's dead

[whole crypt]

anyway back to champagne guns, if you have soyuz gun it's probably faster to do PR6 for 1 flandre gun and take 1 month and a bit to make that champagne gun, assuming you have the spare cores

otherwise you're need to hit up third month for enough proto cores to make the second champagne gun, and even longer for the third

[steady beacon]

Ye that's pretty reasonable from a resource POV

[undone plover]

He has 2 already and champy gun is cheap but you have a fair point
I was told 3 champy is good to have for timing purposes anyway since the BB meta shifts so much
How do you guys even keep track these days

[hollow gust]

I don't , in a CV main, fuck bbs

[steady beacon]

I would say same except I've been spending most of the last two months and losing my sanity examining that very damn question

[undone plover]

Art imitates life

[whole crypt]

for META maybe but this META light
for OS I dropped CVs

[undone plover]

Isnt the yorkii kear fleet king in light armor content or is triple mk7 BB fleet better?

[lean hill]

Tactical Training 100 help x.x

[hollow gust]

CVs should do better for the current meta no?

[plain saffron]

so far yes

[turbid dawn]

While I'm here then would you say it's worth getting a 3rd one of these? I have 84 of the 1s I can convert for the extra 4

[whole crypt]

I have Kearsarge Yorktown II for Wichita but T10 is still too weak to be sure

[steady beacon]

In principle
We'll know in a couple of days

[plain saffron]

just trust me bro™️

[hollow gust]

Well not from the purple gun

[whole crypt]

OS doesn't matter if Keasarge is king, there's no light boss strong enough to matter

[steady beacon]

OK, I trust you Nagami

[vale gyro]

Does implacable work better with two other BBs or does she work better with 2 other CVs?

[hollow gust]

CVs ofc

[whole crypt]

she works both ways but in a CV fleet you can focus CV buffs in vangaurd

[plain saffron]

kear ytii enty plus 2 tank and helena

[turbid dawn]

Why not? Isn't the point of NJ gun to replace the MK6?

[hollow gust]

Aurora

[plain saffron]

she'll die

[turbid dawn]

The meta boss is a CA it doesn't work, right?

[cobalt rapids]

aurora on wichita

[whole crypt]

Aurora doesn't work on Wichita

[vale gyro]

Is kear good with implacable?

Or is kear’s best team with 2 BBs

[whole crypt]

more like Implacable is good for whatever comp she goes with
Kearsarge just offers ARA if you have USS carrier alongside

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure crafting from gold gun route is cheaper

[undone plover]

Making it from the other gun is cheaper

[whole crypt]

crafting from Mk4 costs less electronics and rainbow designs

[steady beacon]

Fascinatingly, it depends on how much you care about Kear's personal damage...

[whole crypt]

but crafting from Mk6 costs less ordreps

[steady beacon]

Mk D

Mk4 is the Georgia gun precursor

[whole crypt]

Mk whatever

but yeh I recommend crafting whatever takes less designs and electronics if materials are still a problem for you

[undone plover]

Only 6 ords. U are not saving much

[vale gyro]

What about overall team damage?

[steady beacon]

CVs always win

[hollow gust]

BBs are fire broke people who can't minmax

[turbid dawn]

Tbh it still annoys me I've never used Kear after getting her just because I don't have YorkII, such a hard ship to work around if you don't have YorkII

[plain saffron]

i'm broke can confirm

[old zodiac]

what gun to use for the suicide boats

they come one after another

[whole crypt]

I'm not broke I just like stacking cross fleet in OS so carriers have no place

[hollow gust]

Just use enty implacable and Laffey...

[plain saffron]

i like faction fleet

[turbid dawn]

Don't have Implac either, thats when I took a break, between shima nd BisZ

[sharp socket]

w14 has a ton of suicide boats right

[steady beacon]

Faith bordering on zealotry at this point
Granted, the META fights require addressing of their specific gimmicks and there are occasions where BBs are better there, whether because they can naturally do four rotations without gimping their equipment too much, or because BB timings are more conducive for boss mechanic
But if we're talking about Arbiters there's nothing a CV fleet cannot do effortlessly what BBs require the vomiting of blood to do

[whole crypt]

depends on what chapter and what gear access you have

[old zodiac]

general use?

[whole crypt]

I mean it's not useful if I told you to get q152s for all your BBs, is it

[undone plover]

Plymouth gun> ijn triple 155
Twin 137 for dd locked bb
155kai for chapter 14

[sharp socket]

oh 155 kais good for w14

[turbid dawn]

But the problem is CVs require so much more investment right? The fact you need to +13 9 different planes then need specific CVs for specific purposes also makes it even worse

[steady beacon]

Only 9 different planes?

I almost am scared to figure out how many +13 planes I've got actually

[whole crypt]

9?

[turbid dawn]

Thats just for 1 fleet, double that if you want 1 for light and 1 for heavy, then more if you need different specific planes for timings

It's a lot if investment like I said

[hollow gust]

Poor people problems

[whole crypt]

I mean if you bother with oneshotting arbs I guess?

[undone plover]

Not using BB means u can save gun plates for +13 vanguard gear

[hollow gust]

[plain saffron]

[sharp socket]

i did some searching and found some stuff about w14: 14-1 and 14-2 are heavy def, 14-3 is light and 14-4 is medium

is that true

[hollow gust]

Of it's from the wiki then that's true, although it shouldn't matter , just use ap for all 4

[vale gyro]

How does this look?

It’s
Mob, BB AP, CV, BB HE

I know that Helena is better for the BB AP fleet but Iets just ignore that since I wanna put regensburg somewhere whilst maintaining some synergy

[plain saffron]

https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes
objectively correct data

[sharp socket]

are the mobs the same def type

[undone plover]

Run 457 for mobbing

[sharp socket]

what if no 457

[hollow gust]

Don't know why you chose one of the highest damage CV pairs to be mob

[whole crypt]

why make a BB HE fleet and an anti-light CV fleet

[vale gyro]

I wanted to fit ARA on the CV fleet

[whole crypt]

that's what Kazagumo is for

honestly if I had to choose 1 CV fleet to keep I'd keep Shinano/Hakuryuu

[vale gyro]

Sorry, I mean I wanted to fit ARA on the CV fleet without having to remove Zara

[plain saffron]

you already have BB HE, use haku nano instead

[sharp socket]

can twin 410 stay on hood for all parts of w14

[whole crypt]

Zara is 🚮

Hood c14 cope

[sharp socket]

then i just change soyuz/alsace guns

[vale gyro]

Wait how do y’all know what CVs are anti-light?

[meager gyro]

what alsace skill should i level first?

[hollow gust]

Regend is also shit

[sharp socket]

hmm what about hood gun, twin 381 adv

[vale gyro]

I thought the planes decide whether they are anti-light or not

[hollow gust]

All of them

[steady beacon]

Well, as you know I do
But even then, as a matter of principle, if you are not faced with some specific gimmick that disadvantages CVs, they still will win
It's nothing more than a pure damage per rotation argument, really
And that's before we get into details like buff options, timing wrangling, etc.
But again, I'm an unrepentant zealot on this matter
If we're talking about pure ease for a beginner, then I will unhesitatingly concede that BBs are easier

[sharp socket]

or is it 457 or bust

[whole crypt]

skills as well

[meager gyro]

@whole crypthi

[abstract latch]

I just got new jersey, should i build?

[vale gyro]

But what about skin cope

[whole crypt]

I don't skin cope on OS

[plain saffron]

no if not MLB

[undone plover]

I think fdg gun (mk6 skc 34) if u have it for some reason
If not purple ijn twin 410

Idk if ppl run champy on mob

[steady beacon]

It's the least of your concerns, but York II to flag, Kear to top position
Given that you're using both Guam and Laffey

[hollow gust]

Sakura is stronger for heavy while eagle is stronger for light

[abstract latch]

Aite

[sharp socket]

457 is not particularly difficult for me to make but itll take a bit

[vale gyro]

Guess I need to start reading them in detail hmm

[whole crypt]

also check loadouts

Yorktown II can do twin rockets which gives her an advantage on light/med

[abstract latch]

Should i bother MLB ing her if i have bullins to spare?

[whole crypt]

ello

[plain saffron]

if that ship have skills more geared againts ligth armor, then it's a better idea to use that ship for anti light, and since you fighting light, use antilight planes

[undone plover]

Does yorkii not run skyraider ?

[whole crypt]

too slow

[undone plover]

What if oathed ?

[plain saffron]

like you can use anti heavy plane on yorktown ii fighting heavy armor for example, it's just not using her full potential, for example

[whole crypt]

🚮

[plain saffron]

depends on other UR you need to LB

[whole crypt]

if fast launch I'll even drop to Suiseis

[vale gyro]

Since I have a BB HE fleet does that mean I should focus more on anti-heavy for the CV fleet?

Or is it possible to make a CV fleet that just does decently well against all types?

[meager gyro]

how do i get thüringen?

[whole crypt]

next event

[plain saffron]

i would go BB HE and heavy CV

[undone plover]

Thank you nntktt for crushing my dream

[meager gyro]

like this next event?

[sharp socket]

whats fdg gun full name? also i have twin 410 kai on hood currently

[plain saffron]

20th june event yes

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Rondo_at_Rainbow's_End rerun is coming this week

[steady beacon]

ntk's just weird
I think it's fair if you're dodging 20s shields or something but I sure as heck run Skyraider anti-light/med

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_406mm_(SK_C/34_Prototype)#Type_0-0

Dont craft it tho
Not worth
Just use another 410 kai

[meager gyro]

its an iron blood event

[sharp socket]

alr then

whats 2nd best option for light other than 457

[plain saffron]

457 is not an option for light

[undone plover]

457 isnt for light
It is just best for mobbing
For light armor bossing it is mk7>mk6 usually

[sharp socket]

wait then why suggest 457

mk6 is 2nd best for light then

[undone plover]

Cuz I thought were asking about mobbing gun

[whole crypt]

well I'm on fast launch camp so yeh

[sharp socket]

for AP i have 1 champy 1 soyuz

so hood stay twin 410 kai or mk6

[atomic abyss]

457 is usually seen most in late game mobbing

Stick with the 410 kai for hood

[undone plover]

Is hood on mob?
Then keep the same gun on her yeah (twin 410 kai)

[steady beacon]

My question is how fast is fast enough for you
Just short of 20s is too slow?

[sharp socket]

fdg will be fs5 in 2 months time and i may have 457 by then

wait if the boss on 14-3 is light, do i need put mk6 on my boss aswell?

[cobalt rapids]

if no 457 then use champy gun on mob

[undone plover]

Generally u keep the same gun on mob regardless of boss
So yeah you only change the boss fleet BB gun on 14-3
Mk6 is fine for that

[frigid linden]

My current dock, considering my fleet earlier is there any changes I should make with these other ships?

[turbid dawn]

Has any 1 else got to full test Mog yet? Recently got her to 125 so I decided to test her in CM against Hinden+Ply, she'd only ever get ~50k more dmg then ply and only 2/3 the dmg of Hinden but obv she doesn't buff the BBs and her survivability is awful too, so I kinda feel like she's on the weaker side of URs for vang unless I'm missing something

[vale gyro]

Sorry, I just read their skills and I can’t figure out which CVs focus on anti-light etc how do you tell?

[whole crypt]

check barrage datamine for damage

[steady beacon]

I still hate DPS vanguards that are not torpmemes anyway
But in seriousness, is as much as 50k more than Ply, against her worst armour type because of DD gun mods, "bad"? If you think so, then... sure, I guess

[vale gyro]

I see, thanks

[inland shoal]

The Hinden cope is real

[turbid dawn]

Ah shit yeah I didn't realise the 'AP' DD gun is only 55 mod to heavy, that is atrocious

[whole crypt]

depends, nothing special with Wichita so 20-ish probably ok
I still remember doing 18-19s comps for some bosses

[sharp socket]

looking at wiki tenrai is busted

[whole crypt]

it is

[steady beacon]

You have no idea tbh
Those numbers fail to capture just how busted it is

[plain saffron]

you know it's busted when they start using metric system

[whole crypt]

metricgood

[steady beacon]

Metric superior

[abstract latch]

I have alsace n mog

[meager gyro]

is felix for mob or boss fleet?

[plain saffron]

alsace have prio

[undone plover]

Your felix is 3 star
She is for dock

[steady beacon]

Ngl, you pointing that out kinda bugs me now...
Bc most bombs are lb, yet all guns are mm...

[plain saffron]

[steady beacon]

Standardisation damn it

[sharp socket]

what is this focke wulf and why does it have so high AA

[jaunty vault]

its a plane

[meager gyro]

how do i get gold bulin many fast?

[tame jungle]

Play and don’t spend

[jaunty vault]

it has high AA cause i wanted it to have high AA

[steady beacon]

Built in the Gear Lab
I mean, Idk what to tell you
The historical one was just a stupidly good fighter I guess?
I still bet the Hellcat would win though

[thorn wolf]

Plymouth or brest first

[steady beacon]

Coops just revealed he's a dev who's infiltrated us
Code red

[undone plover]

Pvp is a good source of bulins
Do your attempts and try not to lose
If u want pvp help u can check their channel

[jaunty vault]

doesn't really matter

[sharp socket]

should i make them to replace my seafangs

[steady beacon]

No surface damage, so absolutely not

[whole crypt]

play and wait, how many more things do I have to tell you to wait for

[steady beacon]

You only use the FW-190 A5 for W15 support fleet if you're too poor to have a dozen Flapjacks

And I guess to build the A6 if you believe in anti-heavy rockets

[sharp socket]

ah alr

[silent latch]

should i get graf spee

[rare juniper]

I just got my first wyvern and I was wondering who I should put it on?

The website says not to equip it on implacable, so i guess either unicorn or enterprise?

[steady beacon]

For KMS tech?

[eternal moth]

Uni

[meager gyro]

yes

[sharp socket]

whats a significant upgrade over portland for tank other than anchorage

[crisp obsidian]

Hello. I am wondering if my Uni loadout is optimal or not, any advice?

[plain saffron]

change the HP aux to AVI stats aux

[whole crypt]

CBs

[steady beacon]

A surprising number of things
The main reason why Portland is near-universally recommended is because she's both cheap and effective (plus she fulfills requirements for the rookie missions)

[sharp socket]

i dunno if w14 will allow me cheap and effective

[whole crypt]

"significant" though

[rare juniper]

oh didnt know that wyvern wasn't great for boss fleet, guess thats why its not recommended for implacable

[sharp socket]

does agir fit the bill?

[whole crypt]

if at least d25 definitely

[steady beacon]

No, I probably wouldn't take Portland to W14 either
I honestly would be loathe to put my trust in anything not a CB or Anchorage as my main tank at that point
Or Laffey

[abstract latch]

So i should lb alsace first then jersey?

[whole crypt]

well Drake actually can tank 14 but developing Drake in 2024 for tanking

[steady beacon]

Well, actually, that's kinda a lie, but anyway
I might or might not have had no hull type higher than CL for W15 mob

[abstract latch]

Aite bet

[topaz smelt]

Ports doable on mobs

[sharp socket]

well i have 340 agir prints currently, probably at least dev25 ready when i actually get to build her

[whole crypt]

ch14 mob can tank with Yat Sen right?

[sharp socket]

does agir get used in w15 aswell?

[topaz smelt]

Yats fine

[pearl creek]

How to know if a boss in opsi is heavy/medium/light armor?

[whole crypt]

Agir can fill any late game tank slot

[sharp socket]

alright great

[topaz smelt]

Agirs pretty weak in 15

[whole crypt]

if you can't remember turn off fleet lock and check the pre-battle confirmation

[atomic abyss]

Torps is why she might be riskier in -3/-4

[pearl creek]

Ty!

[whole crypt]

planes and torps hurt but she has enough bulk unless your DPS is just too shit, but if you drag it's not only Agir that dies anyway

[topaz smelt]

Not just torps, bombs and lack of AA

[sharp socket]

ill worry about w15 another time for now

[whole crypt]

well 15 best tank is Guam anyway

[topaz smelt]

Your tank options are usually Guam laffii brest anch

[sharp socket]

i wasnt here when guam arrived

neither laffii

[whole crypt]

not enough for 15

but hey Sandy now with aug

[topaz smelt]

Doesn't provide anything else

[whole crypt]

anyway worry about it when you get there, who knows maybe PR7 might have something for it

if not there's still falling back on Shimanto

[finite crag]

huh did the w15 command change

[steady beacon]

I mean, we cleared W15 pre-Guam/Laffey II so
It's definitely doable without them

[topaz smelt]

I FC well before them

[whole crypt]

Sandy now also better than Sandy then

[steady beacon]

Indeed

[cobalt rapids]

yes sushy updated it into a guide now

[topaz smelt]

Funny how no one is able to validate it

[sharp socket]

ill just sit here at 13-2 for a while and farm cdc for avp, not like i need to push w13 for any reason in particular yet

i can most likely do up to 13-4 its just alot of oil i dont wanna spend

[whole crypt]

I'd say just give 14-1 a try when you think you can give it a shot

[jade ibex]

Sandy's dmg now is insane fr

[whole crypt]

if it doesn't work out then just fall back and continue grinding 12/13 to see what you can improve

[finite crag]

do you need subs for 15?

[topaz smelt]

15 is prob easy enough now you can do it without uni and sashi

[jade ibex]

yeah

[topaz smelt]

They help a lot

[finite crag]

cool

[sharp socket]

alr

[jade ibex]

did they change sth on it?

[topaz smelt]

They gave us a lot of good ships for it

[sharp socket]

anyway i roughly know what to do now, just grind more opsi, make more UR gear and continue developing research ships and gear

if gacha UR comes along and solves my problems even better

[finite crag]

i have not leveled a single sub

[topaz smelt]

You just throw books at it

[finite crag]

that works

[whole crypt]

no hurry to you can start leveling after reaching ch13

throw XP packs then just do some more runs for affinity

[frigid linden]

I’m gonna use this fleet to rush to W9, should I replace Javelin with an off tank because Helena is kinda squishy

Thank you for the suggestion earlier

[whole crypt]

overlevel and you'll be fine

[topaz smelt]

Lbs will get you more mileage than anything else

[frigid linden]

I see I see thank you very much

[lament bay]

how do you sync formidable? since her slow applies as soon as the planes are launched i dont think you can sync her to launch right on the same cooldown as the other CVs right?

[steady beacon]

As much as it pains me to say this, the solution is to not use Formidable

[fluid brook]

You play with the launch time of the airstrike, by swapping planes with longer or shorter CD than the one in the slot one can increase or decrease the airstrike CD

[lament bay]

i should farm an ark royal from 0 instead?

[whole crypt]

if that would be easier than working on AvP yes

[steady beacon]

But if you must for some reason (although Idk why you wouldn't use Ark Royal even if utterly desperate with no AvP FS5/Implac), then she launches slightly after her CV partners because the stop happens immediately

[lament bay]

i need a second stopper for Shinano fleet since AvP is on yk2 fleet

[whole crypt]

the solution is to not build 2 CV fleets

[topaz smelt]

lack of buffers

[vale gyro]

Hold on sorry old ss

Assuming that I’m trying to avoid the use of loli ships as a random self-achievement and the order of fleets is:

Mob Light, BB AP, CV Heavy, BB HE

How is it in terms of synergy and are there any areas of concern?

[lament bay]

well im closer to building 2 cv fleets than 2nd bb fleet + 1 functional cv fleet

[vale gyro]

For which fleet?

[topaz smelt]

theres a helena missing

[vale gyro]

Are there any alternatives to Helena if I’m looking for more consistency?

[steady beacon]

Rice is recommending Helena, is this the Twilight Zone???

[topaz smelt]

Fuck Helena

[patent pivot]

Fuck helena

[hollow gust]

Yeah we know you much you like to lewd her

[topaz smelt]

sirius and aurora are typically used

indep is nice too

[whole crypt]

you don't really need 2BB or 2CV fleets though, just do 1 BB and 1 CV fleet and put any spare cross fleets in the last fleet

[lament bay]

i was trying to fight the hard arbiter but i was only dealing 30% with each fleet

[vale gyro]

Who should I replace?

[rapid grail]

ditch Yk2n and Kear, replace with Indepkai and UvH for full crossfleet

[whole crypt]

consider improving those 2 boss fleets than trying to make another one

[hollow gust]

I'll rather have Njs crossfleet over uvh

[whole crypt]

if it's either or I'd take NJ yeh

[hollow gust]

And nj is better for the mob fleet anyway

[lament bay]

alright could i ask how to improve both? against light/meadium/heavy scenarios each

[pastel ferry]

I got two New Jersey from Heavy build couple days ago. I don't have any UR guns for her. What would be a good gun for her to use?

[whole crypt]

start a thread and post what you have, chances are you're not well optimized

[frigid linden]

What’s the best way to whale under $10

[uncut oar]

When in doubt mk6, pr3 406/50 if you want AP

[topaz smelt]

indep is usually in the mob fleet

[fluid brook]

buy dock space

[whole crypt]

if you're paying less than $10 you're not whaling

is cruise pass less than $10?

[uncut oar]

Yes

[whole crypt]

take that then

[pastel ferry]

The purple triple 406 MK6 ? Good

[tame jungle]

ya

[lament bay]

one sec

[vale gyro]

Making 4 strong ops fleets with no lolis (random goal)

[uncut oar]

Yes, purple 406mk6 is literally a gold gun in purple paint

[frigid linden]

I just never spend more than $10 on any game

[pastel ferry]

I have this one as well. Or the purple one better?

[whole crypt]

if you're not decided just don't bother buying anything

[uncut oar]

That's the 406/50 and is good, different guns different uses, 406/50 is AP and used for medium/heavy bosses

Mk6 is HE and will kill anything but is worse on medium/heavy so use if mobbing/fighting light

[pastel ferry]

I see. Then one setup with the purple for Light and medium stuff i guess, and the other one for heavy

[uncut oar]

406/50 is better for medium

[pastel ferry]

Got ya!

[frigid linden]

Okie, I’ll just buy dock space for now.

[wispy pendant]

When should I use one over the other?

[pastel ferry]

I bet my ships are all weirdly equipped lol.
I don't really look at armor type stuff, just put what I feel like would go well lol.
I made way more progress than I would have ever thought in the year I now played, including Research ships.
I do have some good equipment but still lacking lol

[whole crypt]

if you want to bother messing with marginal BB timing, they're sidegrades otherwise

[uncut oar]

Use soyuz gun if you need to slow the ship slightly (looking at you vanny)

[pastel ferry]

Dock space is amazing. Basically what i buy as well once I have some gems saved up lol

[whole crypt]

yeh I use it on VG as well if AP-ing

[undone plover]

Isnt soyuz gun also slightly better on medium?

[hollow gust]

When using different timings

[wispy pendant]

Between Bis van and Alsace/soyuz, what’s the desired firing order?

[steady beacon]

Ngl, the full story of them is worth an essay...

[whole crypt]

the difference isn't that significant, slowing VG is more useful

[uncut oar]

If you don't want to look at armor type it's fine to just use mk6 ig, it's NJ it's still going to hurt

[hollow gust]

Getting the em as close as possible to each other is the goal

[frigid linden]

Is this worth it?

[uncut oar]

Can't tell you but vanny's going to be first anyways

[topaz smelt]

not necessarily

[hollow gust]

Especially with Alsace/musashi , vanguard could have a habit of outspeeding them

[whole crypt]

Alsace will always fire first wdym

[uncut oar]

Do you not want vanny to fire first

[pastel ferry]

Yea..I do like to maximize stats, get good equipment and all, but i am not that deep into the game to min max perfectly and care about everything there is.
Will keep it in mind. Thank you!

[uncut oar]

Only first salvo for sync or is there a particular reason

[hollow gust]

Double shell instead of hsfcr shell is a very valid comp , it often brings her closer to the other bbs

[topaz smelt]

she doesnt need to shoot first, just reload before most of the damage hits

[uncut oar]

How much of soyuz and alsace's damage are on the barrage?

[pastel ferry]

Is Mogador fixed btw? Someone told me that she is currently not working properly just sucks up damage and dies?
Maybe I am wrong.

[whole crypt]

tell that someone he's wrong

[inland shoal]

That is outdated

[hollow gust]

You have to realize vanguard skill procs off rld, not firing her gun. You can get her debuff out really quickly

[pastel ferry]

Understood, time to put her in my fleet then. Thanks^^

[inland shoal]

She's still not exactly tanky tho

[lament bay]

Help for 2 boss Opsi fleets

[uncut oar]

I actually do realize that but doesn't Soy also have an on-reload barrage? Which is why I was asking about how much damage her barrage deals

[steady beacon]

Considerable, but still less than half of the total rotation's damage by pure numbers (although you could well argue that this fails to take into account the basically flawless physical accuracy of the icebergs)

[frigid linden]

As a new player should I care about the prototype store?

[topaz smelt]

only for ur bulins when you get some urs
most of it not rn

[uncut oar]

How much does dual shell vs hpfcr slow Vanny anyways? Like... 2.5s or something I want to say?

[steady beacon]

I mean, my view remains that focusing on sync to the exclusion of all other considerations is erroneous, and at least so far that view has held up through most of the tests I've run
I don't exactly lose sleep over the last salvo of the third BB losing an 8.8% debuff by the fourth rotation
If you're doing CM or something then sure, worry about it if you want to

[uncut oar]

I'm not arguing it if I look like I am

I'm asking to get a more well-rounded understanding of the setup

I stand corrected therefore I ask

[steady beacon]

This is what the traneptora calc says... good enough approximation, at least

That's Champ gun, with and without HPFCR
So your 2.5s is about right

[uncut oar]

nod so she's missing the first timestop salvo definitely, it'll catch salvos 2 and 3 and she slowly drifts back in line because she's just Faster™️

Yeah that's fair, and it also helps her personal dps

[steady beacon]

Well, that's when it depends on who the boss is...

[uncut oar]

Specifically CM? does that apply elsewhere?

Like a lot of fights would end before her reload drift becomes an issue again right?

[steady beacon]

Nah, I meant the thing about her personal DPS
You can push a higher ceiling, no doubt, but in terms of pure averages unless the enemy just has near-zero evasion rate giving up radars is usually just asking for trouble

[topaz smelt]

iirc for the slower ships like sashi you start missing the buff fairly early, like 2nd salvo

[flint wyvern]

Do I need to make a thread for team building help?

[meager gyro]

can you even beat opsi?

[steady beacon]

Ye Musashi is the absolute thorn in my side when it comes to Vanguard

[uncut oar]

[steady beacon]

She really does just drift out of sync that bloody early and it drives me nuts

[uncut oar]

I guess sushi getting sacked to mob is a good thing then huh

[topaz smelt]

keep in mind it takes like 2-3s for the full bb salvos to land

[uncut oar]

Because that gets her slow ass out of the equation for vanny comp

[crisp vine]

one question,its worth play in sandi or better go to little ent?

[flint wyvern]

Help Making 2 Opsi Teams

[topaz smelt]

Server doesn't really matter

[meager gyro]

can you even beat opsi?

[whole crypt]

what do you mean beat OS

[crisp vine]

hm,anyone can agreed with opinion Riceist?

[whole crypt]

it's just an endless monthly material and plate grind

[uncut oar]

That's very dependent on your definition of "beat" tbh

[meager gyro]

cant kill this thing

[whole crypt]

I'm not telling you how to play your game anymore since you don't seem interested in following instructions

[uncut oar]

Gear/fleet issue, you can onefleet arbiter hard

[topaz smelt]

That's narby

[whole crypt]

yeh, server doesn't matter

[novel condor]

That's normal tho

[steady beacon]

Curiously, I would use this to argue the reverse (here assuming something like Vanguard, Bismarck, Soyuz/Alsace)
Namely that Vanguard being a little faster doesn't matter in something like the Arbiter fight because it's still not that horrifically desynced by the fourth rotation (it will be a bit) - Musashi, though, as noted is another story altogether and she is pretty much completely desynced by third rotation, never mind fourth
In Arbiter fight specifically, the first two rotations is where you should get most of your damage out, which is one reason why I honestly don't care about desyncing by fourth rotation against them
CM brings its own set of considerations because it's so long, and I hate CM so I'll defer to others on that
META depends on gimmicks, but a lot of METAs privilege rearloaded damage, so in that case I can understand working harder to keep sync for fourth rotation, and they also tend to be a little bit less evasive than Arbiters, so accuracy is somewhat less of a concern

[uncut oar]

Ik it's narby, I brought up harby to make a point

[meager gyro]

ok this thing is unbeatable? got it

[undone plover]

Go heal at port > fight level 60 mob in c1 zone > fight her again

[whole crypt]

I beat it last week

[crisp vine]

well washington was my mother server and was kinda ded tho

[novel condor]

en can't en ig smh

[uncut oar]

I am once again asking you to use your eyes

[novel condor]

And brain

[meager gyro]

?

[steady beacon]

Ye, he's right
Server doesn't matter unless you want to join guild with friends or something
Or if you want to tryhard PvP, but LE and Sandy are basically the same difficulty

[uncut oar]

Arbiter can be killed in 1 battle

[crisp vine]

i see then,thanks all

[whole crypt]

I have clearly told you you're not ready and told you to level stuff, because that's preparing for doing the bosses and harder stuff later in the month, I clearly told you that you don't have enough as it is, but you insist on wasting your time trying

[plain saffron]

how long until they complain about it needing 20 runs again

[crisp vine]

if you want make ops then make 2 low level missions like me

[meager gyro]

?

[plain saffron]

/corewarning

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1234503367070449664/image.png?ex=6630f85a&is=662fa6da&hm=54a69b0a628f86ece9e973ea5952798e87f4adf1e5c5931926afa4260f147042&

[uncut oar]

I see. Yeah, Arbiter gimmick generally just kills your damage for the back half unless you're stacked enough to clear it and your VG's still living, and METAs usually buff your damage after you clear the META's gimmick. Fight duration really isn't a good benchmark for how desync affects your output and I see that.

[eager mulch]

hitting core warning day 1 every month by retiring 10 UR bulins

[meager gyro]

is she useable now?

[uncut oar]

For once for one of your questions, yes

[zinc turret]

wut ? retiring ship also count for that cap ? how about buying it from medal shop ?

[whole crypt]

T12 takes 2 rounds

[steady beacon]

Ye
At the end of the day, I am committed to the hard upper limit of optimisation tbqh lol
As long as you can achieve your objective with the fleet (whether it's kill or just do x amount of damage), that's what matters imo

[meager gyro]

also whats this fingerpring thing now? is it like a cool animation?

[uncut oar]

Right. It's fun and all to push number but if you're autoing and you aren't dying nobody really cares

[steady beacon]

It's for Fate Sim

[jade ibex]

Brennus a good tank or off?

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research#Fate_Simulation

Fate sim is actually also in the tooltip but I guess no one scrolls and reads the thing

[undone plover]

retiring UR rarity gives 500 spec core that counts for the 5k limit
it is rich ppl stuff ignore it

[fresh tangle]

Worth using as is or keep for lab only?

[undone plover]

medal shop doesnt count for the cap tho

[whole crypt]

it's okay for low AA ships before you can upgrade to STAAG

[uncut oar]

It's almost like 90% of his problems are solved by just using his eyes or something

[whole crypt]

it's almost like 90% of his problems are solved by following instructions

[uncut oar]

Wait a sec, you can go over the cap with medal shop? Am I reading this right?

[whole crypt]

medal shop 1k each month is not counted to cap

[uncut oar]

... that's fucking huge thank you both of you for saving me a month on Alsace

[fresh tangle]

Hmm alright not sure I want it yet on anything

[whole crypt]

HIT stat good on BBs

[inland shoal]

Could've known if you used your eyes on patch notes

[uncut oar]

I wasn't actually around when that patch dropped

[whole crypt]

yes it works for Hood too

[uncut oar]

I just came back near the end of May

[fresh tangle]

Chucked it on Nelson. Had some random garbage on her should be bigger upgrade

[sage sluice]

is the plygun worth using as a BB secondary if I have nowhere else good to put it?

[calm rose]

how many +13 of this do yall make?

[eager mulch]

0

[steady beacon]

People make that +13?
Jokes aside, I made one for RodM

[calm rose]

not even worth for implacable?

[eager mulch]

especially not worth for kaga

[soft raft]

Ive only used it on Implac for RodM and I didn't +13 it

[cobalt rapids]

Depends on fight more than implac as far as opsi goes not worth

[calm rose]

yea, no one is using for kaga lol, i used her to take a screenshot

[steady beacon]

You can for timing anti-heavy if you'd like I guess
But since Hermit is the heavy Arbiter I'd still generally stick with bomb fighter because preserving the gauge is a bigger prio for me
He said, despite literally using that +13 one a few hours ago

[hollow gust]

2

[steady beacon]

Someone more committed to CVs than me

[gloomy mesa]

Is Mogador a viable option for beginners? I'm asking because I could MLB her right now.

[meager gyro]

how do i kill this?

[eager mulch]

leave, heal, kill random trash mob somewhere, fight again, repeat until dead

[steady beacon]

At the end of the day, she's a UR with all that is attached to that rarity tbh
Whether she's worth MLB'ing right now depends on what else you have that could take those rainbow Bulins instead
If none, then sure

[wild whale]

skip the random trash mob just heal at port