gameplay-help

[keen sable]

yes and this applies to ravenclaw also. On 12-1 you can level anything. even a L1 bulin. That how easy the mobs are. I wouldn't want to try that on 11 where nagato looking at you funny will get you killed.

[silver lintel]

U dont rly need a 3rd tenrai anyway

[whole crypt]

you rarely even need 2

[topaz smelt]

Can confirm only using 2/6

[whole crypt]

but 2 is a good number between 1 research and 1 shop copy

[stone sluice]

[graceful light]

oh you're right... i'm only using two as well

[plain saffron]

My 2 tenrai is fixed on a ship so i need 4

[whole crypt]

I have 2 stuck on Saratoga too but I can't remember if I'm actually using her

[fresh tangle]

Yeah just thought as you say a second healer wouldn’t go amiss given unicorn is maxed

[viscid swift]

I used her for Kirov META

[whole crypt]

quite a few of us did

[graceful light]

you know.. that puts me in a predicament now ... what PR to even go for now? if obtained all botes

[whole crypt]

PR5 for more q152s if you don't need anything else

PR7 is probably going to be here before you finish a copy though

[graceful light]

tsk crap okay

PR7 is that close huh?

[whole crypt]

July

[wary timber]

So I'm farming 6-4 for a Yuudachi drop. is it even worth continuing my attempts or should I progress and actually finish off 8-4

[soft raft]

Uni+Perseus isnt exactly a ideal setup compared to Aquila or Volga instead of Perseus but sure that can work for some content

[whole crypt]

just push past ch8

[soft raft]

continue pushing to W9 and above
Then come back to 6-4 when you can curbstomp it with two lvl 120 ships

[whole crypt]

you can come back for Yuudachi and Maya as a side thing later

[wary timber]

Interesting.ill continue on then

[keen sable]

cc > yuudachi imo. especially with mog all around better than poi now.

[wary timber]

Cc?

[keen sable]

chang chun

[wary timber]

I already got one. In her DDG form

[keen sable]

poi is for completion then

[wary timber]

I didn't push past chapter 8 cuz I was farming for Akagi and Kaga lol. It took a stupidly long time

Yuudachi was cuz I needed another DD and I needed to farm levels for Graf Zeppelin

[keen sable]

which is also sus to do outside of cost limit

[whole crypt]

pre-ch9 is just really inefficient now so just get past that

Akagi and Kaga being meh aside

[zinc turret]

well if they are his waifu why not

else yeah its suck to farm akagi and kaga cuz the drop rate ...

[whole crypt]

it's not about waifu and drop rates

[soft raft]

because they can farm for them later with 2 lvl 120 ships instead of wasting valueable time that could've been spent pushing to W9+

[whole crypt]

it's just really inefficient to be doing that first over progressing

[zinc turret]

[whole crypt]

not just time, oil as well

[zinc turret]

i see 1 1 fleet formation huh

[wary timber]

So at this point should I push my lv64 Prinz Heinrich into service now or wait till I can get my Beaver squadron thing

[eternal basalt]

Why farm 3-4 with 2 120s

[whole crypt]

you can run 3-4 with a 4-oil fleet

[heady pier]

its fine to dump every epic bullin to 30 lvl epics to make them close to mlb right?

[eternal basalt]

Also a waste of xp, just use 2 ships that can get xp

[plain saffron]

What color is epic here

[whole crypt]

if you mean URs you should LB your URs before using them, but lv30 isn't going to be enough to MLB

[zinc turret]

somehow my training mission for combat data pack resetted at series 1 again after i complete the series 1 ?

[plain saffron]

It's intentional

[zinc turret]

how to proceed to series 2

[heady pier]

well i meant elite/purple tier

[eternal basalt]

Do it again

[plain saffron]

For pr1 only you get to do it twice

[viscid swift]

finish the series one missions again

[soft raft]

it's intentional
It use to be a bug but they turned it into a feature because who doesnt like more free stuff

[zinc turret]

i see , aight

[whole crypt]

well 2 low-ish ships I guess, if you're sending like 2 MLB SRs you might as well save the oil for grinding them on 12+

[viscid swift]

use the actual rarities please or colors
other wise no one will know what you're talking about

[heady pier]

yeah mb i thought it was epic in here idk why

but i mean like this

[whole crypt]

basically you should LB any ships you use

[plain saffron]

/oilpsa

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804119377739776/949345167092105277/Untitled_presentation-page-001.jpg

[whole crypt]

if you're using them LB them, if you're not using them you can push the LB to later

[eternal basalt]

Note you need lvl 70 to MLB

[heady pier]

yeah i know im grindin slow because im at 10-1 rn ill try to hit everyone 70 once im 12-1

[sweet delta]

🧢

[plain saffron]

🧢

Are that fleet aiming for 4 shots

[sweet delta]

4 shots is required for enough damage

[plain saffron]

I'll try again tomorrow

[sweet delta]

Try right now with Pearl on ply

[plain saffron]

I'm going to sleep

[spice phoenix]

spearfish or wyvern? which is better for which situation?

[whole crypt]

@meager gyro what full auto clear of a stronghold looks like without 10 or 20 re-entries

[whole crypt]

Wyverns have higher damage per torp and can intercept
Spearfish have rockets that can aim besides the main torp path but no intercept
both are usually for mobbing but if you're not sure usually it's just taking Wyverns first because cost

[frank pulsar]

spearfish also kinda not worth using outside w15 imho

[whole crypt]

if you can afford Spearfishes then there's nothing much to say about worth, it's simply the better mobbing plane even for OS

[hushed cliff]

Are any of the 800 core planes worth buying

[frank pulsar]

the elites arent so tanky that wyverns cant handle them

[whole crypt]

not really, besides maybe Firebrand to cut the crafting costs for a Wyvern

[meager gyro]

[whole crypt]

you should end up getting the same even with re-entries, you just don't realize how much you got out of the map in whole if you had to keep leaving

[eager mulch]

no gold main gun plates bro fell off

[whole crypt]

rally account anyway, whatever

[hushed cliff]

Very well I will continue saving for the rainbow torpedo then

[whole crypt]

I don't really see that screen anymore on my main account

[sweet delta]

There's a rally event ?

[whole crypt]

there was, I just haven't gotten back off the account

CN anniv remember

[sweet delta]

I thought you are jp

[whole crypt]

all regions should get rally on CN anniv

[viscid swift]

EN didn't

[plain saffron]

En didn't

[sweet delta]

There's a rally event in EN?

[whole crypt]

sad

we get rally for both CN and JP anniv

[plain saffron]

En shafted again

[eager mulch]

nagami did not go to bed

[plain saffron]

I'm going now frfr

[whole crypt]

I usually just idle the account with enough time to go into returnee again for JP anniv

[topaz smelt]

hes in bed with sara

[whole crypt]

he wish

[plain saffron]

"hi nagami going to sleep now" -sara

[atomic abyss]

[plain saffron]

Did jp get new server?

[whole crypt]

no

[plain saffron]

Hmm

[whole crypt]

I guess it's just odd timing to hold returnee for EN alongside CN anniv because there's like one month less in between

[plain saffron]

Is it once per year

[whole crypt]

I'm fairly certain I bring up my rally accounts twice a year for CN and JP annivs

but yeh I don't see a full auto result screen for strongholds on my main account anymore because I'm commander XP coping

[keen sable]

we had CN EN in 2023

[uncut oar]

How do you do 4 oil 3-4 again? Iirc akaga has good fleet tech right?

[eager mulch]

0lb ships

[cobalt rapids]

akaga is avi, 4 oil is just ranger mahan + stack xfleets to not fail

[uncut oar]

Might need to consider doing that at some point

[sweet delta]

3 oil is also consistent

[uncut oar]

Yeah I was wondering which ships is all

[unkempt mirage]

with my first set of UR torp plans do i want the quint mags, or the sub torp

[topaz smelt]

neither

[uncut oar]

3 oil?

[unkempt mirage]

is that just waiting for something better to get in then?

[whole crypt]

pre-lv34 0LB CVL + 0LB Mahan

[uncut oar]

Pre level 34? does their actual level matter?

[whole crypt]

CVLs go from 2 oil to 3 oil

[wary timber]

Is this gun good on Prinz Heinrich? I just realised that I could very likely build this real soon

[uncut oar]

Huh. Ic. I thought it was just LBs.

[whole crypt]

so the serious minamxers actually bother swapping out to new fodder

[cobalt rapids]

its not good to craft, use the prereq

[whole crypt]

assuming you grind a map that fodder CVL drops

[uncut oar]

Also I'm p sure heinrich wants a CB gun anyways?

Or am I wrong

[eager mulch]

Heinrich wants a rainbow gun

[whole crypt]

Heinrich is fine with normal CA guns
the only CB gun she can use is 283 and it's shield cope

[uncut oar]

nod

What about adalbert?

[whole crypt]

same

[uncut oar]

I see

[eager mulch]

Analbert wants a rainbow gun

[wary timber]

Ok I'll stick with the Prinz Eugen Gun then

[whole crypt]

if you have the material then whatever, just that neither are particularly useful
sub torp is not homing
rainbow quints is just sidegrade of gold quads in general

[atomic abyss]

turtle i did not need to know your fetishes

[keen sable]

i just use 283. it's cheap, effective, and you have one already

[spice phoenix]

should i craft twin 457s or save docs for spearfish and grind research for prints?

[sweet delta]

457

[eager mulch]

I don’t need to reinstall the game to know my adalbert is still 0 lb

[unkempt mirage]

guess i'll just sit on them and hope something cool gets put in, i have 6 bidders already

[sweet delta]

If you don't plan to +13 your bidders, then +10 type 95 Kai is usually better than +10 bidder

[whole crypt]

rainbow quints is marginally more useful on some ships if you don't already have one

can wolfpack even fully reload type95 kai

[eager mulch]

torp stagger

[sweet delta]

81 and 37 get 22 of 24 in i forgot whether it was opsi

just don't use wolfpack

[topaz smelt]

im pretty sure no

[whole crypt]

guess I'll never need to bother with type 95 then

how many bidder hits to compare to type 95

[unkempt mirage]

i mean, i havent yet, but +13 bidders sounds reasonable?

[whole crypt]

it's not hard to do at all

[sweet delta]

It's not as simple as multiplying the coef, alpha, and armor. There's also 20 trp difference times two plus dropping hull for oxytorp

[topaz smelt]

the hardest part of it is getting the bidders

[whole crypt]

well 95s can also whiff on moving bosses more than bidders

[topaz smelt]

rmbr he only plays opsi where bosses dont move

[cobalt rapids]

the only other prio for trop plates is quads(quints)

[whole crypt]

but yeh I picked my wolfpack based on voices so there's basically a zero chance I'll change up unless there's a significant consistent margin

[topaz smelt]

fishes are noticibly better in 15

[sweet delta]

voices in your head

[whole crypt]

all the time

[sharp token]

can i run 12-1 with little fdg weser and bismarck for pr farm?

[cobalt rapids]

if on safe with adequate lvls and proper gear yes

[sweet delta]

You can farm 12-1 with any fleet assuming that they're appropriately leveled and geared and supported

Maybe not triple bulin with triple BC eva tech

[whole crypt]

well bulin is a stretch but it worked with no AA DE fleet

[sharp token]

i have 3SR IB back fleet(bis,grafzep,tirpitz) so what should i mlb instead of bis? or just mlb bis?

[whole crypt]

if any of them are not MLB they shouldn't be in the roster to start with

[cobalt rapids]

mlb bis if u dont have other prios for gold bulins like ships that would help u beat content u want

else just use w.e mlb u got on hand or elites since they are cheap to mlb like scharn/gnei

[topaz smelt]

fml i tihnk i scapped a test cat

[hollow gust]

[topaz smelt]

i think i have backups but i was gonna use it later

[cobalt rapids]

why no locking

[topaz smelt]

i think i forgot

since it was a purple sub cat with lone flame

[vestal thistle]

Oi I can start brest

[cobalt rapids]

good for u

[vestal thistle]

She good?

[cobalt rapids]

good but not good at dev0

[topaz smelt]

Shinygud

[vestal thistle]

I did saint then now roon and was trying for agier

[tame jungle]

how far are you with pr4

[vestal thistle]

Non

Currently farming iron blood tech points

[topaz smelt]

Get fdg first

[vestal thistle]

؟

?

[inland shoal]

Friedrich der Große from PR2

[vestal thistle]

Still not unlocked

[tame jungle]

i mean he doesn't have the tech points

[vestal thistle]

472 tech

[inland shoal]

Yeah just saying to go for her before Ägir

[vestal thistle]

Robin herself isn't done building still need exp

Brest is unlocked should I go for her first

[gray sphinx]

Noooo

[tame jungle]

who the hell is robin

[inland shoal]

Roon obv

Just finish Roon

[tame jungle]

yeah if it was obvious i would've gotten it

[gray sphinx]

You focus the lower PR ships first and build up. Plus Brest is DR that ship will take forever

[tame jungle]

brest is DR and also no coin up available so it's sloooooooooooooww

[gray sphinx]

Very very slow

[tame jungle]

should be some sort of guide available for getting IB tech too lemme go find that

[gray sphinx]

Man’s gonna grind for half a year lmao

[tame jungle]

all for a little bit of brests in his life

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology @vestal thistle go farm these so you can get started on fdg asap

[vestal thistle]

I am farming chess

[inland shoal]

I mean Roon will also help getting there

[vestal thistle]

Why does autocorrect turn roon into Robin

[tame jungle]

fake ship!

[gray sphinx]

Probably playing too much star rail

[left cedar]

cuz its a somehow a comom name ?
well, not here in my contry, but i think that can be in urs

[gray sphinx]

Does Plymouth need FS5 to be useable btw? Or can I start using her at dev 30?

[soft raft]

She doesn't even have a FS5

[gray sphinx]

Wait she doesn’t?

[inland shoal]

Ägir doesn't even have fs5 yet

[soft raft]

Currently only PR1-5 excluding Agir and the PR5 DRs have fate sims

[vestal thistle]

Not really these days didn't even do the last quest or unlock events that will end in 6 hours

[gray sphinx]

Shiiittttt then I’m done with Plymouth

[vestal thistle]

What is that

[soft raft]

The hell am I being murmed for

[gray sphinx]

Fate simulation 5

[inland shoal]

Because I misunderstood your bracketing

[soft raft]

Fate sim
Basically extra dev lvls that grant a skill upgrade at FS5 (DRs get two skill upgrades at FS3 and FS5 respectively)

[soft raft]

Ah fair

[vestal thistle]

Wil agier get them eventually?

[tame jungle]

probably

[inland shoal]

Yes they all will

[tame jungle]

we just don't know when

[soft raft]

Prob
No one knows when though and there's no pattern

[inland shoal]

Was Drake fs5 before FdG?

[soft raft]

Yeah

[inland shoal]

Ye so even order can change

[vestal thistle]

I pray soon and also for Carl oath skin

I hear next event will be iron blood

[eternal basalt]

May 2021 Drake, Jan 2022 FdG

With potential Anson, if they ripped Friedrich from there

[spice phoenix]

what level is safe enough to train on world 12?

[gray sphinx]

Probably 80 ish is the bare minimum granted you use someone like unicorn

[spice phoenix]

thanks bro

[vestal thistle]

Till what level should I keep ships in dorm

[rocky fjord]

first and second floor?

[vestal thistle]

First only

[meager gyro]

just finished felix, who should i do next?

[rocky fjord]

since you dont have second floor, may as well keep your current fleet in first floor
till 125

[rocky fjord]

d30 or unlock

[meager gyro]

unlock

[rocky fjord]

unlock order doesnt matter

[vestal thistle]

After that or when I get 2nd

[rocky fjord]

wat

current fleet in first floor if you dont own second floor

[vestal thistle]

If second

[meager gyro]

who should i start? hindenburg, rupprecht or odin?

[undone plover]

How many slots will u have when u get second?

[undone plover]

Do you have anchorage? AvP?

[meager gyro]

yes

[vestal thistle]

What to build in lab first

Gear I meant

[gray sphinx]

You have enough fleets to tackle opsi and get UR prints? You just hard focus wyvern in gear lab first

[undone plover]

FdG > Agir > marco polo > Harbin > plymouth > anyone (probably)
U also want a pr3 ship at some point
Cheshire is good but odin is fine I guess

[undone plover]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[meager gyro]

i got fdg and ägir, cant do marco, harbin and plymouth and i got mainz from pr3

[vestal thistle]

What is that

[undone plover]

Prioritize wyvern and junker-ju 87

[gray sphinx]

They sent you a command look through the screenshot

[vestal thistle]

Can't see

[gray sphinx]

Click it and expand

[vestal thistle]

Did

[inner delta]

open in browser

[gray sphinx]

You try zooming in by using your fingers?

[vestal thistle]

Did

[gray sphinx]

I see it just fine on my phone

[undone plover]

Then do whoever u want it doesnt matter

[vestal thistle]

What is wvern

[meager gyro]

matter of fact i can only do the 3 i named earlier

[eternal basalt]

Wyvern, a TB

[gray sphinx]

Btw for the screenshot don’t just double tap, use your two fingers to zoom in

[meager gyro]

should i keep any of this?

[gray sphinx]

76mm is useful on some ships

[left cedar]

Helldiver is the best DB till u got Tenrai ...

[inner delta]

hellcat

[undone plover]

Check this out. Also do /equip and check out safe to scrap
Keep the blue stuff that is listed here and in that command

Scrap the rest

For the purple the sb2c helldiver and autoloader is good

[left cedar]

yeah, make a mess with hellcat and helldiver to me is common

[sweet delta]

i suspect that the safe to scrap guide has been thrown at him multiple times already

[meager gyro]

nope

[undone plover]

Let me do it for good measure

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[meager gyro]

is this ok for poverty?

[undone plover]

She is 3 star dont use her

[vestal thistle]

How do you have Felix and say poverty

[gray sphinx]

Uhhh that might be a bit too much for poverty lol

[gray sphinx]

Poverty gear

[vestal thistle]

This

Felix

[gray sphinx]

I’ll probably be running a poverty Plymouth since I don’t have Plymouth gun

[undone plover]

Give that main gun to your BB aux slot

[meager gyro]

should i craft any of this?

[meager gyro]

already got 2 flap

[undone plover]

Not as your first prio

Save electronics for wyvern

[opal bone]

what should i spend guild coins on as a beginner?

[meager gyro]

wyvern aint happening

[undone plover]

Just need 1 more month
It is happening next month if u dont waste electronics

If u waste em you wont have enough for wyvern

Do you have the iron blood junker torp bomber?

[meager gyro]

the what now?

[undone plover]

This one

[meager gyro]

nah

[undone plover]

It is in iron blood tab
See if u can make it

[meager gyro]

cant

should i craft this tho?

[undone plover]

No

Just save for now
The 2 I mentioned are worth
Other stuff isnt very high priority for now

This is also good if u need CL guns
It is in sakura tab CL gun

[opal bone]

what should i spend guild coins on as a beginner?

[meager gyro]

should i craft this?

[glossy socket]

is there any reward for playing the TB mini game? (except getting her as a secretary)

[forest palm]

no

[meager gyro]

how do i know if i need cl guns?

[undone plover]

Who is your best CL? What gun is she using now?

[meager gyro]

also did they take the CL from mercedes?

[meager gyro]

idk who my best is, theyre all shit

[undone plover]

What is your helena using

[gray sphinx]

Any books that come along the way and gold gear mats

[opal bone]

so no characters?

[gray sphinx]

I guess you could go for unicorn if you don’t have her yet

[undone plover]

Did u buy portland penny unicorn and helena?
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[opal bone]

no

[undone plover]

Yeah that is not good.
Make the gun I linked
Sakura tab CL gun. Only 1 for now

[gray sphinx]

Unicorn and Helena is probably the most important to buy imo. Portland you should be able to get from a beginner mission I think and I’ve never used penny in my life lol

[meager gyro]

this?

[opal bone]

okay thanks

[gray sphinx]

Yes

[meager gyro]

cant

[undone plover]

Make 1 then start saving
Come back to ask what more to craft next month

[gray sphinx]

Wdym you can’t, you have all the mats

[meager gyro]

dont have the spare gun

[undone plover]

U showed me the gun. U put it on felix

[meager gyro]

and i need it i guess

[undone plover]

For who?

[meager gyro]

idk

[gray sphinx]

Let me tell you if you don’t have any prints for Felix you’re not using her for another 4 months

[undone plover]

U will get more of that gun in future it is not that hard to get dw

[meager gyro]

is this a good offer?

[gray sphinx]

Never buy cubes with gems

[opal bone]

Are any of my characters here useful?

[meager gyro]

🧢

[gray sphinx]

Just do more research. I also have two of the CL guns you’re trying to get on top of that

Also pretty sure they’re in tech boxes no?

[undone plover]

Read the link I sent.
stick to the recommended fleet for now

If u are on lil-e server get hood from medal shop when u can

[meager gyro]

in 4 years

[gray sphinx]

Just use your tech boxes. If you have none then you haven’t been grinding world chapters

[meager gyro]

i only get shit from them

[gray sphinx]

They should be in T3/T4 Sakura tech boxes

[undone plover]

They are in t4/5 not t3

[opal bone]

how do i get the medals of honor?

[undone plover]

If u grind enough and open enough of em u will get it eventually

[gray sphinx]

I opened 20 just now and got another 2. They shouldn’t be difficult to get

Just keep grinding

[meager gyro]

you dont know my luck

[undone plover]

Retire duplicates of blue and purple ships
Dont retire dupes of the ships u will use
Use them to LB first

[opal bone]

is it getting hood something i should prioritise?

[undone plover]

She is the best early available BB u can get

Top tier ship

[opal bone]

okay thanks a lot

Will this team work?

[undone plover]

Portland helena starter dd better

[opal bone]

what does starter dd mean?

[undone plover]

The ship u started the game with. Z23 in your case

[opal bone]

alright ty

whos skills should i focus on uppgrading?

[atomic abyss]

unicorn

and your starter

[opal bone]

okay thanks

[fleet spoke]

Advice on what gun to get. I'm struggling gear wise.

I'm thinking georgia gun over drake?

[soft raft]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Guide.jpeg

[eternal plinth]

You would probably benefit the most from twin 457

[fleet spoke]

That's what I was thinking. I keep forgetting about that guide to reference.

[eternal plinth]

Considering that you have some good ca guns and the cl gun probably will have less of a damage impact

[gray sphinx]

Also use quad torps not quint

[soft raft]

I'd say Plymouth gun first
it's got more overall use cases than Twin 457 (Which is basically a mobbing gun 99% of the time) and Twin 457 is also craftable in gear lab, same with Drake gun

[vale apex]

should i research other sakura ships to get tech for haru

[gray sphinx]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[vale apex]

whats that supposed to do

[atomic abyss]

there's no page on sakura lol

[atomic abyss]

you could, but i wouldn't advise it

[gray sphinx]

They have links for Sakura on the page

[atomic abyss]

ya sure?

[gray sphinx]

It’ll direct them to a list of Sakura ships they can look for

[vale apex]

and?

i never asked for some wiki list

[atomic abyss]

i wouldn't advise it regardless

[vale apex]

alright

[atomic abyss]

you are better off mlb-ing the many sakura ships you likely have from campaign alone

[eager mulch]

that link is just the wiki page

[gray sphinx]

Yes and it should be enough if you have a brain

[vale apex]

you have to be seriously braindead

[atomic abyss]

the link doesn't exactly answer his question

[gray sphinx]

Maybe I was dumb to assume that giving him a guide wouldn’t have hinted that going for PR ships to get tech points wasnt a good idea

[vale apex]

this guy cannot be real

[atomic abyss]

the reality is, going for other PR ships for tech points is a perfectly valid idea
...just not for sakura/eagle

[vale apex]

alright not gonna waste my time on a stupid dumbfuck

[atomic abyss]

ok now that was uncalled for

[vale apex]

i mean he did suggest that i was dumb so i would say its valid

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

uh no

no he didn't

[gray sphinx]

Oh I’m sorry did I hurt your twiny twinny fweelings I’m sworry

[atomic abyss]

both of you stop

now.

[soft raft]

Anyways since this is GPH
What order of fleets do yall do for the 15-4 bosses ? Mob-Boss-Mob or Boss-Mob-Boss

[eager mulch]

I think I did boss mob boss

[calm rose]

my mob took the 2nd boss

[sweet delta]

i do boss-mob-quit

[eager mulch]

but realistically it’s whichever fleet can handle bosses 1 and 3

[soft raft]

ic

[opal bone]

how do i farm xp without the chips

[sweet delta]

just farm

[opal bone]

aight

[sweet delta]

can someone check what rewards this gives? I got 5 gray plates and 898 coins

[remote yarrow]

If you asked 5 minutes earlier I would've been able to

[eager mulch]

who’s 5 minutes earlier?

[remote yarrow]

Idk, he sounds like a nice guy

[sweet delta]

maybe i read 398 as 898, idk

[sweet delta]

is this your

so now the question is what do level 25 give

doubt level 10 gives more coins than 25

[sweet delta]

i don't have spare level 25+ alts

how about the low level raids for other days? fierce battle and maritime

[graceful light]

am i the only one running low on gray plates? the disparity between gray and purple is mounting lol

[stray geode]

got enough UR bulins to max out another ship. which one would you recommend? is there any clue about when upcoming UR events are coming out (or implacable rerun bc i need that)

[remote yarrow]

Alsace, and Implac is not rerunning any time soon there's Vanguard and Musashi's first

[soft raft]

Implacable rerun wont be for a long while that's for sure
Alsace > NJ > Mogador >= Kron

[sweet delta]

I'll send this to a green name

[stray geode]

thanks! alsace it is

[soft raft]

And a reference on how far we are from Implac rerun

[sweet delta]

What's a chibi ship

[cobalt rapids]

if u take many q1 it happens
mitigate by grabbing medals gray parts or open ur blue boxes and scrap

[remote yarrow]

Amagi Chan

[tame jungle]

Example little friedrich and stuff

[graceful light]

aha so i can use my gear boxes

gray weapons ends up just being coins when scrapped?

[sweet delta]

Blue weapons drop gray plates

[graceful light]

oh...

[cobalt rapids]

mb it shoudve been purple boxes for better blue gear drop

[graceful light]

ill add that to the list to do then as well... not like those gearboxes are useful at this point

[sweet delta]

crafting blue box to purple box means faster but fewer plates in total

[graceful light]

unless they're like a precursor item for a UR gearlab

[stone sluice]

Farm w12 and you’ll be fine. If still running low you can buy them from the shops

[graceful light]

been perma-staying in w12 and there's still a disparity

just worried that i'll actually one day be out of gray plates

[keen sable]

I'm holding at around 9k. On an alt that barely plays, Q1's are basically impossible. OPS and hard mode don't give them.

[graceful light]

right. makes me feel like im gonna run out since we arent in the spot to actively farm them anymore. im down to about 5k across the gray plates

[sweet delta]

is this 10, 25, 10, 25?

[left cedar]

to keep gray plates u must buy them into medal shop, also its a thing keep crafting blue gears and disamble them to get some ...

i'm slowing incrensing my gray plates doing this ... around 100~300 plates month even doing my researchs normally, and gearing everyship in my dock slowly

[gloomy mesa]

552

[fresh tangle]

Realistically should I swap Alsace into my mobbing fleet for Saratoga for now so she gets more exp?

[remote yarrow]

Go ahead, and swap Portland and Helena around btw

[viscid swift]

do you even need Unicorn at that point

pretty sure you don't need her now for wherever you're farming

[left cedar]

why Helena Tank ?

[remote yarrow]

Probably he doesn't know

[sweet delta]

realistically you should put tanks in front (left on the fleet screen)

[fresh tangle]

Oops an oversight when I rearranged 😂

[cobalt rapids]

realistically pushing w12 is overdue

[sweet delta]

anyone who needs exp goes to mob if you're farming. If you're first-time clearing, then put ships where they make the fleets better

[remote yarrow]

Yeah are you even in W12 to farm exp?

[fresh tangle]

Which brings me to my original question

I’m on 11-4 and pushing

[remote yarrow]

I think you should push first and then focus on leveling stuff

This looks decent enough to do so

[fresh tangle]

Ok so for purposes of pushing would Alsace be better in my mobbing fleet 😂

[remote yarrow]

Nah let her in Boss for now imo, but maybe swap Nelson and Hood

[fresh tangle]

Ah thought Nelson would be better mobbing

[remote yarrow]

She can do both but I think Hood's barrage is better for mobbing if I'm not mistaken

[sweet delta]

nelson is better for both

[fresh tangle]

Poor hood

[forest palm]

[uncut oar]

old people should get out of the kitchen anyways

[forest palm]

Hood's about 7 years older

[eager mulch]

[uncut oar]

ig kinda forgor to ask earlier, how stacked does a 4 oil 3-4 fleet need to be

is like, generally-used +10 gold stuff good enough

like goldquads

[remote yarrow]

I mean 3-4 shouldn't be too hard to require actual good gear

[uncut oar]

okay are there any faction's boxes you can't get catas from

[remote yarrow]

Nope, you can get them from any T4 and T5 boxes

[uncut oar]

popped 4 rainbows got 3 catas, thanks

we're good for a while

[covert beacon]

Is there any thoughts on Mogador and Alsace yet in terms of how good they are versus other URs? More specifically, is Laffey 2 or Mog better (I'm also asking this to see if I should give the UR DD gun to Laffey)? And, is Alsace a replacement for any ship in the triple BB comp of BisZwei, Vanguard, and Soyouz?

[graceful light]

curious of this question too ^

[patent pivot]

Assuming perfect gear anti med BB is Vanvuard/BiZ/alsace/gayir/hinde/ply
If you don't have maxed stuff then swap out Vang for soy

[forest palm]

Mog is a high end gun focused DD with a quirky gimmick, while Laffey II can tank, cover AA, and has moderate damage, you'll see more use out of Laffey II over Mog.

Alsace can contend among the top 4 UR BB in the game

[topaz smelt]

whats the setup on vanny in this fleet

[covert beacon]

I usually see Helena in this comp, but I can see it. I'm surprised to see Hinden over Unzen tho

[patent pivot]

Gear setup is flangun als (cope she goes 2nd on first salvo), champgun vang, soygun BiZ

[graceful light]

hindy is big gunbote

[topaz smelt]

isnt that way too fast on vanny

[patent pivot]

Helena can be put in over hinde absolutely, I just hate helena

[eager mulch]

fuck helena

[covert beacon]

Laffey does seem to have more coverage and versatility. The tankiness in particular helps her since endgame damage is kind of nuts.

[uncut oar]

nobody likes unnecessary RNG no

[patent pivot]

Maybe on really long fights but this como only for <100s

[viscid swift]

yes, I already am

[topaz smelt]

fcr on vanny?

im pretty sure fcr vanny desyncs by 2nd

[uncut oar]

(also I'm saying this as somebody who's actually a fan of the historical ship.)

[patent pivot]

Soy > alsace if fight over 100

[forest palm]

I just don't see that much of a purpose in a ship that lacks utility, and Mog lacks utility

[patent pivot]

How far do you consider a desync?

I run HPFCR normally

[topaz smelt]

missing the buff on most shots

[patent pivot]

Never had that happen

[covert beacon]

"fight over 100?"

[uncut oar]

100s

[viscid swift]

seconds

[patent pivot]

I'll run another test rn but I don't ever remember her not getting buffs

[covert beacon]

Oh I see. So only in the case where it's going on very long

[topaz smelt]

soygun bz is kinda slow now, esp if soy is going first

[forest palm]

just waiting for Manjuu spit out a UE for Helena, or make a ship with 100% consistency

[uncut oar]

Helena UE would be so silly.

[patent pivot]

You can do soygun Vang but then you throw out all hope of alsace going 2nd

[covert beacon]

How good is Hinden vs Unzen tho? I believe they are similar rolewise afaik

[forest palm]

yet we have Sandy UE

[patent pivot]

I tested a bunch of variants somewhere

[uncut oar]

we do and I'm waiting with my popcorn

[topaz smelt]

unzen is typically better on more specialized fleets

[light trail]

dumb question and idk if right channel but is next event start date soon or known at all (or guessable)

[glossy socket]

if i disassemble a +13 gear, do I get the gold plates back in full?

[forest palm]

should be the 20th

[covert beacon]

The shortened gear names got me in shambles. Idek what this is talking about haha

[viscid swift]

it is the 20th

[soft raft]

you get a few plates back but not a 100% refund
only way for a 100% refund is to upgrade it to a different gear in gear lab (If applicable)

[patent pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1245312269638697001/1246813365083574294/image.png?ex=667035ee&is=666ee46e&hm=ed8a33173bafb809323aabd17395c568a787247da81783b9f813782c1d9d062b&

[glossy socket]

do you know the percentage?

[viscid swift]

it's an absolutely pitiful amount

[topaz smelt]

i think it was like 25%

[uncut oar]

also are the protoplates refunded under any circumstance?

[viscid swift]

nope

[glossy socket]

that's miserable

[forest palm]

what gear are you trying to scrap

[glossy socket]

i wanted to scrap the PR1 triple BB gun

[soft raft]

which one
there's two BB guns in PR1

[forest palm]

probably talkin about Izumo Gun

[keen sable]

why would you want to do that. both are very usable

[glossy socket]

the HE one

[uncut oar]

izumo gun is good for sushi tho isn't it

[forest palm]

that's Monarch

[soft raft]

ah monarch gun
did you +13 it...?

[uncut oar]

if your monarch gun is +13 it's worth keeping as slightly better mk6

you just don't want to do that in the first place

[glossy socket]

but I wanted to make 3 Mk7

[forest palm]

we have MK7 available now, so Triple 381 is dead weight

[viscid swift]

I don't see how scraping your Monarch gun helps with that

[uncut oar]

probably out of gold plates for +13

[keen sable]

what does scrapping monarch have to do with that

[glossy socket]

this

[viscid swift]

should have just saved up gold plates before hand
for now just wait to get more

[glossy socket]

I wanted gold plates, I figured if I could get them from useless guns lying around it would be a win for me

[keen sable]

so wait a week

[uncut oar]

well I guess that's why we don't recommend +13 mongun in the first place

[glossy socket]

I was a noob back then

[uncut oar]

that wasn't a knock on you

[mint flint]

just be more careful with rare resources (hoard them like they're priceless until you know what to do with them)

[patent pivot]

Just ran a few tests, champgun vang no oath desyncs at 4th salvo. Checking new gun comp now

[covert beacon]

Do you have like a picture of your Alsace gear set-up (if you happen to have the whole BB fleet set-up that would be appreciated too). If anyone else has one or can point me to one, that works too.

[graceful light]

until you over-hoard resources and now embarrassed to ask for help cause reasons

[patent pivot]

Izumo gun is just barely too fast for 5th salvo, 3 of biz lasers are out of sync. Might work with oath

[uncut oar]

I think I asked this before my hiatus but asking again, how big are +13 457s in w15 vs +10

also how many do I actually need? 2?

[viscid swift]

2 max, just one if you have Musashi

[uncut oar]

since sushi runs 410kai?

[viscid swift]

yes

[uncut oar]

right, desync purposes. icic.

[sweet delta]

you can't really quantify the difference between 10 and 13

[uncut oar]

yeah, I know, I'm sorry v.v

[patent pivot]

I can't atm, I can in a few hours but gear is pretty typical for BBs besides MG

[uncut oar]

I was just wondering if I should wait for it

I'm on my last manual 13-4 run rn so I'll post dock/depot in a sec and you can tell me if I should wait before doing w15 (after clearing w14)

actually no longer slaccing sempai be proud

[topaz smelt]

Weren't your testing with crossfleets

[patent pivot]

I only had inde cross

[uncut oar]

also what's the data here? o:

curious what the numbers mean

[hushed aurora]

what gear can i put on her? any tipps?

[keen sable]

any fighter but that one

[remote yarrow]

Depends on what you got but not a messershit

[uncut oar]

messershit

first of all that fighter needs to go

[hushed aurora]

let me do a thread

unicorn gear?

[patent pivot]

Soygun vang, champgun biz, flangun als works no oath but sacking soygun onto vang will fuck up numbers, need to do a more in depth check

[keen sable]

kids don't let your L114 uni be SL8 either

[covert beacon]

I can wait if needed, but this was my attempt at an idea of the set-up going off what you said. Is it close, or should I change things around. I do have other UR options. Only one I don't have is the DD and AA UR gears from the gear lab.

[viscid swift]

what the f*ck

[covert beacon]

Idk I just threw it together in a minute and put stuff that usually is decent. There's a reason I ask other people for gear help lol

[spiral timber]

Are my fleet goods or nah? Can you guys help me improve my fleet? My level is 70

[viscid swift]

this is why you don't just slap on what people say is good without understanding why or the context

[keen sable]

who is missing?

[spiral timber]

Unicorn retrofit

[uncut oar]

I am. at a loss for words looking at that BB setup.

[viscid swift]

the gun on Vanguard is extremely niche and it also means she's not syncing at all to Zwei and Alsace which ruins the point of running her in the first place

[keen sable]

what's your second fleet?

[patent pivot]

I will be a few hours to days before I have numbers I feel good about, the folks here can help in the meantime

[covert beacon]

I'm slowly grasping gear stuff, but the game does a horrible job at making information related to gear make sense.

[covert beacon]

He mentioned Flangun so I just put it there. What else would you recommend?

[viscid swift]

that's not the Flandre gun, that's Kearsarge's gun

[covert beacon]

Oops

[uncut oar]

Yahoo what does the table actually mean that you posted earlier? what's the data describing? am curious

[spiral timber]

Here

[viscid swift]

even with Flandre gun it still doesn't sync

[patent pivot]

That was against scharnM with no tech and specified gear and comp

[uncut oar]

yeah, but what's the actual data? what does "10" for first run flangun alsace mean?

[viscid swift]

first is the most basic set up for medium and heavy armor
second for light armor

they can be adjusted to be more optimal depending on what you have and the content but that's pretty where it starts

[patent pivot]

Bars left

[uncut oar]

oh! that makes more sense. thank you, sorry I probably should have figured that out sooner

[patent pivot]

Alles good

[viscid swift]

yeah....
just start a thread and post your dock

[covert beacon]

I see. What about my vanguard fleet? Is it generally okay do I mess it up badly too?

[viscid swift]

Vanguard gear is fine, but throw another evasion gear on Agir, bulge is doing nothing on her for Opsi

[spiral timber]

Where the channel i can start thread? Im still new in here lol

[graceful light]

this thing above.. click create after clicking that

[keen sable]

first is ok. you can drag eugun along no problem. 2nd fleet. keep impero, portland. replace everyone else.

[spiral timber]

Alright thx bro

[spiral timber]

Ok

[remote yarrow]

Would prefer Portland Kai over Eugen early on

[covert beacon]

What would you recommend?

[graceful light]

sounsd like u got a problem with eugen but i agree too

[viscid swift]

Beaver Badge, Cosmick Kicks, Gridman Calibur, Crystal Ice Bomb

also use a main gun in Hindenburg's 3rd slot not an AA gun

[graceful light]

assuming he has a d30 hindy?

[keen sable]

inb4 can't

[covert beacon]

I do have d30

[graceful light]

then... ... slap on her a new gun

[patent pivot]

Also if you read the table soy + als is actually better ok average even with perfect stuff on vanguard comp. It is just so wildly inconsistent for such a tiny improvement I don't generally mention it. However with this development over 60s it might be better

[graceful light]

btw is that table done or you've settled with the results? or further testing still?

[patent pivot]

I'm running new tests and math soon™️ but I just wanted throw out that fun fact

[uncut oar]

anybody free atm for 14/15 prep? potentially opsi fleet reformation too, if there's people free for it I'll drop thread

[graceful light]

oh okay. curious of the final findings

[patent pivot]

join Sam's disc to see the actual headbanging in real time

[covert beacon]

Triple 234, 203/55, or something else?

[uncut oar]

sam has a discord?

[graceful light]

they're doing TCs in there?

[patent pivot]

What's TC?

[graceful light]

theorycrafts

[viscid swift]

I'd go with Drake Gun

[patent pivot]

As of like 3 weeks ago yes*
*kinda

[graceful light]

3 weeks?

[viscid swift]

I mean there's literally an entire set of forums called waifu game try harding so

[graceful light]

i kinda wanna peek but dunno if sam is willing to let some noob taint datasets

[viscid swift]

sure

[graceful light]

idm using the thread too.. curious what u guys thought up against wichM

[patent pivot]

Only way to learn is to fuck up

[viscid swift]

so far it's just the usual antilight stuff with a decently beefy vanguard

sans Aurora obviously

[uncut oar]

Mermaid's (finally) w14/15 prep help + maybe opsi fleet reform

[patent pivot]

If you have interest just go for it. We ain't gonna be dicks cause your new

I say we but I only exist in the BB thread

[forest palm]

Wichi M has to be one of the easiest fights in a long while

[graceful light]

chains might not be... she also launches some barrages into the main fleet. whether that woudl be deadly at the later part.. nobody knows yet

there were instances where the chain grabbed my last positioned vanguard too and made a big gap with no coverage from the front vanguards

but i guess those are just one of those w/e rng autos

[graceful light]

no preferences for CVs?

[patent pivot]

CVs are too easy to find optimal shit

BBs are a pain in the ass

[graceful light]

be the meme and add kearsarge in a BB comp

also where can i find samheart's discord link unless its a private inv-only?

[patent pivot]

His site iirc

[uncut oar]

his site does have it

[graceful light]

got it ty

[woeful compass]

hello guys can someone please repost the Dorm guide

[remote yarrow]

There's a dorm guide?

[woeful compass]

I mean on how to spend your gems on the dorm sorry

[remote yarrow]

3rd or 4th slot + 2nd floor
then the rest on dock space

3rd + 2nd floor is enough to have a full fleet resting

[woeful compass]

Thank you very much

[uncut oar]

is regular triple 155 better than 155kai in w15 bb aux? or is there a different 155 I'm missing?

[viscid swift]

yes

[uncut oar]

oki, noted

hmm... if I have both NJ and sushi mob, would having NJ on 457 and sushi on 410kai be a problem due to them both being on fast guns?

(or both being on slower guns with triple 410 and mk7)

[viscid swift]

you could stagger them but it kinda doesn't matter because OpSi mobbing isn't that difficult

[uncut oar]

even with meh adapts? I'm definitely still gonna pop oil logger because lazy but I kind of want to not be buying adapts

also with FdG being sacked in my fleets, who wants gamer table?

[viscid swift]

Bismarck Zwei

[uncut oar]

[ancient kettle]

Anyone know how to get more oil? I’m kinda desperate lol, I grinded a bit too much and close to not having any left

[topaz smelt]

Touch grass

[remote yarrow]

Comms,weekly pack, buy with gems (don't) or touching grass

[stark quiver]

💳 /🌿

[uncut oar]

sources for gold cats apart from buying from guild shop, buying from event and buying from ?

[remote yarrow]

I think that's pretty much it nvm

[stark quiver]

medal shop, weeklies

[uncut oar]

forgot about those two, but looks like I have all of the usual suspects

wait. medal shop has gold cats? is this merit or medals?

I haven't touched META in literal ages but is there any way to get old cruise pass METAs atm?

[dense finch]

When and what are the big events(anni) in the game? Is there anything worth spending money now

[soft raft]

As of now no

[remote yarrow]

EN Anni is in august and what do you mean by anything worth spending money on?

[soft raft]

CN Anniv in May, EN Anniv in August, and JP Anniv in September

[uncut oar]

understood, writing off old META tech for now

[dense finch]

Like, any limited time package that worths more and usual

[remote yarrow]

The most worth stuff is the x2 gems packs, if you are new to the game the Lv70 Commander boost pack is a good value if you can afford it

[drowsy hornet]

Any better options/combos here than Enty and Kears in my USS fleet? (Purely built for airspace dominance)

[topaz smelt]

a non uss fleet

[uncut oar]

a lot of people will perform better than a sub d20 kears and 2lb guam/laff2

[ivory crown]

what are these missions referring to

[dense finch]

Thanks though. I have noticed that there are lots of skins and they are quite expensive (800 gems and above). How long does it take a player to save for that much?

[uncut oar]

literally just "trade coins/tokens in for coords"

[soft raft]

Literally just as the mission description says

[ivory crown]

what are coords lmao

[remote yarrow]

You don't spend your F2P gems on skins, period, your F2P gem income is really scarce
You spend them on actual useful stuff like 3rd/4th dorm slot + 2nd floor and then the rest on dock space

[dense finch]

So the strong units are released in these periods, right?

[soft raft]

Click view and it'll show the prompt area to exchange said currency

[ivory crown]

clicking view doesnt doa nything

[uncut oar]

that's because I don't think you have enough coins/tokens to finish them atm

[drowsy hornet]

Well yeah, I'm stull working on them. This is just something I'm working on in prep for worlds 12-13

[soft raft]

Not exactly-ish
CN and JP Anniv are UR events which of course are strong AF

EN is too close to JP so we get a regular SR event instead but SR events can still have some pretty decent ships

[uncut oar]

you can honestly steamroll w12 with literally any decently geared + at least somewhat levelled fleets

[dense finch]

Oh, i just started playing three days ago. Just missed the UR unit for the CN anni

[normal crane]

Which one is a better CL gun for New Jersey between twin 137mm and triple 155mm? Or should i save the mats i can only craft 1

[uncut oar]

also, you want to run 2 fleets at this point, guam sandy laff2 is way overkill for AA even in w13

[soft raft]

She can't use CL guns

[normal crane]

DD, omg im so dumb

[uncut oar]

USS BBs use DD gun aux

[remote yarrow]

I'm guessing you read what I said about spending gems right?

[dense finch]

Yes. If i plan to F2P, save the gems for valuable stuff, not skins

[soft raft]

namely 3rd dorm slot + 2nd floor of dorm if you grind alot
otherwise you full send it on dock space and nothing else

[normal crane]

Revised my question, should i craft the twin 137mm for New Jersey or triple 155mm for Alsace?

[soft raft]

like from gear lab?
Triple 155 is avaliable from tech boxes, I'd never really felt a need to craft regular Triple 155s

[viscid swift]

Potentially neither, BB aux guns are low priority

[normal crane]

[remote yarrow]

Btw since you are new to the game you might wanna give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
And you can also ask whatever question you got in here too as long as it's gameplay related

[viscid swift]

When maxed it's completely overkill for W12 and w13 and right now priority is pushing to W12 and getting out of W10 into a much better farming spot in the W12

There's also little in the way of faction synergy to even be had here anyway

[hollow gust]

whats synergy

[remote yarrow]

Something that baits people into making faction fleets

[lethal bolt]

wanna ask,whats alsace main gun?

[hollow gust]

like any normal bb

[sharp socket]

if i have soyuz gun no need 3rd champagne gun right

[hollow gust]

its close enough

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't say no need but it's lower priority at that point

[stark quiver]

can c5 abyssals drop UR prints

[south sequoia]

Synergy is helena + 5 other good ships, for mob fleets its unicorn + 5 other good ships

[main stag]

So I just cleared w13 but I’m not sure what ship to use for w14

[eager mulch]

unicorn probably

[viscid swift]

start a thread and post your dock

Riceist tried not using Unicorn in W15 twice, it did not end well

[main stag]

Vill help

[sweet delta]

just perseus, almost as easy

[uncut oar]

[fiery swan]

can i get ships from special pool in event pool

[viscid swift]

if the event pool is based on the special pool yes

[soft raft]

Yes (Excluding perma URs)
Mainly when the event lineup mostly consists of special pool hulltypes for your best chances

[uncut oar]

Remind me how's hinden gun?

Is it anywhere nearly as strong in class as tenrai or plygun is?

[late flame]

this?
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/CA_Guns.jpeg

[uncut oar]

Oki, so around that ballpark. Would you take 4h rigging over short research for pr6 because of it?

[sweet delta]

it's the anti-med and tied anti-heavy

i take 4h Q over anything but 30 minute researches

[uncut oar]

[uncut oar]

Is this because your faces are done?

Or is that just in general

Might be underestimating 4h Q here

[sweet delta]

in general

[uncut oar]

nod taking note for pr7

[stark quiver]

4hq best for face print? or somthint else, excluding 30 min

[uncut oar]

4h Q is rigging

[stark quiver]

im new

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[sharp socket]

do c6 abyssal guarantee UR gear plan

[soft raft]

no

[plain saffron]

no

[sharp socket]

so is just high chance?

[soft raft]

[plain saffron]

we don't know how high

[sharp socket]

oh well

c4 abyssal can give UR or no

[plain saffron]

any abyssal can

[uncut oar]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[uncut oar]

Oh. This doesn't actually say anything about opsi. But same rules apply

[forest palm]

that's not really relevant

it's about if something can, not what the rates are

[uncut oar]

I was looking at how they were asking about c6 and chances

[plain saffron]

Well if you read the top part, opsi counts

[sweet delta]

What are the drop rates for abyssals?

/droprate

[plain saffron]

[forest palm]

what a loser

failed to shit post

[uncut oar]

nimi sick of our shit

[forest palm]

when the bot has forsaken the people

[late flame]

what if nimi was mod for a day

[forest palm]

well, the chat would be cleaner, that's for sure

[vale spindle]

na he was being 2000 iq and put a \ before the command like a smart person

[blissful hamlet]

gph moment

[plain saffron]

\/droprate am i smart now

[spring scarab]

Are these good torpedo bombers??

[forest palm]

they are one of the best

[spring scarab]

Are they good for hard mode arbiter ??

I seen in some videos that they use these a lot

[forest palm]

it depends on your build, they can be good, but it's not so simple as throw on, get good results

[sweet delta]

tied for the best with saiun and ryuusei against hermit

[spring scarab]

So, should I craft them ?

[late flame]

who is in your opsi cv fleet?

[spring scarab]

😅 I just use some random fleet for opsi and for bosses all my maxed level ships sometimes I wins sometimes I lose horribly

[gray sphinx]

where are you losing horribly in? strongholds? everything should be easily clearable as long as you have decent gear in opsi besides maybe hard difficulty arbiter

[sweet delta]

i wasted 21k coins today, izumo is shit in w15 and much worse than nelson.
Whereas Nelson has decent reload, nonfocused but strong barrage, and weak AA, Izumo has extremely low reload, nonfocused and weak barrage, and weak AA. Izumo battles last 5 to 20 seconds longer than Nelson battles. The results will be the same in lower chapters too, just remove the weak AA part

[viscid swift]

Noted...

[spring scarab]

No problem in strongholds only "arbiters" that it's everything I can clear them all

[late flame]

whew lucky me dev zero izumo

[gray sphinx]

same

[late flame]

now i am curious what is your opsi fleet composition

[zenith pebble]

i thought there was still only w14

[gray sphinx]

I think you should be fine then tbh you don't miss out on much from clearing hard difficulty arbiter. Maybe miss out on a few tickets but nothing crazy like missing out on an extra UR print or anything

[soft raft]

W15 has been out for just about half a year lol

Guam event was literally W15 cheat codes

[remote yarrow]

W15 released more than half a year ago already

[zenith pebble]

fdg, musashi, and nj are a good boss main for w13 and 14 right?

[gray sphinx]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[soft raft]

Triple BB? Doubt

[gray sphinx]

/w14

[zenith pebble]

just carriers?

[late flame]

triple bb for w13 is lol

[gray sphinx]

oh rip they don't have one for w14 lol

[soft raft]

Also doubt

[zenith pebble]

damn just manual

[late flame]

w14 can mirror w15 setup and be mostly fine imo

[soft raft]

Typical 1 BB/2CV is what I went with

[zenith pebble]

/w13

[soft raft]

What
W14 is perfectly autoable, tf you mean manual

[late flame]

w13 is AA + CV

[gray sphinx]

this is an example fleet someone made for me awhile back for w14

[zenith pebble]

i dont have unzen, bism 2, or implaceable

[soft raft]

Just post your dock in a thread bro

[gray sphinx]

this too tbh

[sweet delta]

w14 was powercrept before any of those 3 released

[spring scarab]

I think it's a bad feet but just for time being I'm using this😅

[soft raft]

Yeesh that's all over the place

[remote yarrow]

Why is Agir sandwiched

[soft raft]

Why are you using a non D30 Haku

[late flame]

shimakaze offtank? umm

[gray sphinx]

is haku usable at D30 btw? or does she need FS5?

[late flame]

d30

[soft raft]

D30 perfectly fine, FS5 makes her stronger

[remote yarrow]

She was perfectly used before Fs5 was released

[late flame]

fs5 gives haku more punch especially when paired with shinano

[gray sphinx]

bet I think I might have enough prints for d30 and then I'll gradually build up the fs5

[spring scarab]

I have all the required blue prints for haku and agir for dev30 but still collecting them 😅

[remote yarrow]

As long as they are DR4 BPs and not from other seasons go ahead

[soft raft]

What
"I have all the BPs" and "I'm still collecting them" don't exactly sound like matching statements

[spring scarab]

Yep today I will complete there dev30

[gray sphinx]

I need 513 for D30 right? I think I'm 16 prints away and I have 30 special gen prints on hand

should I work on brest next and wait on FS5 for haku? I think I only have 200 prints for brest

[late flame]

how many tenrai planes do you have?

[gray sphinx]

two

[zenith pebble]

help with w13+

[late flame]

then yeah i'd work on breast or ply. though you cant go wrong with fs5 haku either

[gray sphinx]

hmm okay. I'll probably go for brest next cause I do need a ply gun as well. Thanks

[soft raft]

Yeah Haku FS5 can wait till later, she's still cracked at D30

[gray sphinx]

can't wait to level up these cracked ships. I just got plymouth finished yesterday and now I'll have haku done after a week when my development fully unlocks

[true kraken]

what's the up coming event

[late flame]

rondo rerun

[remote yarrow]

Rondo/Emden's rerun

[true kraken]

next Thursday?'

[late flame]

3 days from now (gmt+8, monday here lol)

[remote yarrow]

Yep, well this week

[true kraken]

still have 2 more UR event for this year right?

[pliant lily]

which stage from hard mode should I do for t2 and t3 carrier retrofit blueprint?

[true kraken]

thought they said 4 every year

[late flame]

maybe manju will add UR ships to all events going forward
we have no infor at this point

[soft raft]

Any X-4 stage

[sweet delta]

X > 2

[pliant lily]

yeah but I saw some give t1, others t2 and others t3, was thinking if there was one with better odds

[sweet delta]

highest chapter you can do

[soft raft]

Going off of 2 years worth of precedent, it's highly likely, but we had no full confirmation

[viscid swift]

We're assuming 4 new UR events at this point based on the last 2 years

[soft raft]

We have no idea of what the drop rates are except for that T3 doesn't drop until W3 and higher world = more core data per run (max of 30 at W13)

[pliant lily]

okeoke, thanks!

[true kraken]

Yeah but the last UR and this one already 4 URs already right? Laffey II Guam Alsace Morgado?

[viscid swift]

No

Guam and Laffey 2 were last year

[true kraken]

Oh the Russian one

[viscid swift]

And 4 new UR events not URs

Because last year had 5

[soft raft]

Mogador and Laffey II do not count as Gacha URs

[zenith pebble]

so i gotta wait till next year to get them?

[soft raft]

At least next year
We don't know if at the rate they're doing reruns, it'll take 3 years to rerun instead of 2

[viscid swift]

More likely sometime first half of 2026

[true kraken]

but I missed 3 URs, which is Guam Laffey II and Soyut, did I skipped too much?

[zenith pebble]

oh thats not bad

ill probably still be in america by then

[soft raft]

Guam and Laffey were basically cheat codes for W15
Soyuz joined the upper floor of UR BB and mostly kicked Musashi out of a majority of top BB comps

[true kraken]

Seems like a lot, so without those 2 it's just harder to do W15?
And dont they make Soyuz just can be use with Russian fleet?

[soft raft]

No Soyuz isn't limited to faction fleet

[late flame]

well, its not like there's any major achievement for clearing w15 outside of maybe getting houston2 for collection

[true kraken]

then what make she better than Musashi

[viscid swift]

Soyuz isn't straight up better than Musashi, she's just more flexible

That's all

[true kraken]

So more like a support BB

[fiery raptor]

as I understand it, mogador's been fixed. How's her durability nowadays? I doubt she's laffey ii tough, but is she at least tougher than than shima or comparable to someone like jervis?

[viscid swift]

No it means she isn't restricted to certain guns and is more balanced against all armor types

[true kraken]

oh

[viscid swift]

She's Hindenburg light basically

[true kraken]

then what armor type Mus good against with?

[viscid swift]

I think mebot had her around Portland ehp

[viscid swift]

Heavy mainly

[true kraken]

isn't most boss issues heavy ?

[fiery raptor]

she can sync with heavy using 410kai messes up her sync vs light

it depends on boss/map

[viscid swift]

What no

It's mostly medium and heavy

[true kraken]

btw, do I need a France vanguard to use Alsace correctly?

[remote yarrow]

It was 97 or 98% with a little bit of variation (5~7%) because of some reason iirc

[fiery raptor]

no

[viscid swift]

No

[remote yarrow]

Here #gameplay-help message

[stark quiver]

to get a ship from 1-120 using blue xp books, how much would i need

[fiery raptor]

there should be a page with that on wiki

[true kraken]

And on damage comparation, which one better betwween Unzen and Hindenburg?

[remote yarrow]

I think Mebot's sheet is too much information for a Wiki page my PC lags everytime I open it

Or maybe it isn't

[tidal meteor]

Lol it's supposed to be XTB2D-1, not XBT2D-1 and Devastator II, not Destroyer II

[remote yarrow]

Go tell sam at the ECGC discord

[eager mulch]

you go do it

[topaz smelt]

isnt that the skypirate

[remote yarrow]

No you 🫵

[eager mulch]

I’d hope the part that says “aka skypirate” is right

[tidal meteor]

Ye

[topaz smelt]

i dont see any of the other 2 names

[eager mulch]

it’s 1 am

[tidal meteor]

ECGC? I only know the ECTL Discord

[light trail]

i dont have a frame of reference for what's good or bad eHP for a destroyer, can this be elaborated a bit pls? ofc less than 100% doesnt sound good but idk enough context to make a good evaluation

[remote yarrow]

100% is PortKai's bulk

[topaz smelt]

if it lives its good, if it dies its bad

ehp is just a ball of

[remote yarrow]

Agir is like 200%+ iirc

[light trail]

but agir is a CB

[viscid swift]

No

[frank pulsar]

its like 150% ish last i checked

[viscid swift]

It's like 160%

[soft raft]

Agir EHP when Torp spam meets heavy armor

[remote yarrow]

Where do I remember that high of a number from then?

[frank pulsar]

nvm its 160%

[viscid swift]

It's not as of eHP is an exact thing anyway

[remote yarrow]

oh it was reference to this woops https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1248777550935887892/image.png?ex=6670c3b9&is=666f7239&hm=3af574a8cb423c1ea996968a68c0eb543f069c1f01d3d262375503b799394d3

[soft raft]

Your inner gaslit yourself

[light trail]

what evaluative info does it give then

[viscid swift]

Just treat as a point of reference for a ballparks of how tanky they are

[light trail]

or actually is that excel sheet pinned somewhere

shoulda asked for that first

[topaz smelt]

a hand wavy comparison of ships, i wouldnt take cross armor values as info tho

[frank pulsar]

no it isnt
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/htmlview#

[topaz smelt]

or even crosshull in that matter

[sweet delta]

https://nagami.moe/ehp

[frank pulsar]

i forgot nagami added it to his website

[viscid swift]

Well across vanguards at least it makes sense

[topaz smelt]

not really since speed is also a factor in survivability often times

[light trail]

wouldnt it make more sense to have ships grouped by hull type at least

[viscid swift]

Well it's not as if speed is consistent across hull types anyway

Cough cough CN ships cough

[topaz smelt]

the calc is basically just an average of arbitrary armor multipliers on raw ehp

[remote yarrow]

Has someone cooked up a Michita comp yet?

[topaz smelt]

i missed 2 days but it looks like an easy fight

[light trail]

hmm. i think i dont care enough right now to look closer into this, ty for the info tho

[viscid swift]

It's just antilighy fleets with beefy vanguards for now

[topaz smelt]

we find out in a week if theres any damage pressure

[viscid swift]

No real way to cook if you don't even know who you're gonna serve

[topaz smelt]

should be really easy if theres no backline pressure

[sweet delta]

need level 12 to project damage to level 15 accurately

but in my humble opinion, helena is required

[viscid swift]

When was the last time we even had backline pressure in a META fight, Repulse?

[sweet delta]

renown

[topaz smelt]

whos to say devs wouldnt throw that back in at some point

[viscid swift]

No one, just an observation

[eager mulch]

stop observing

[viscid swift]

No, I'm always watching