gameplay-help

[uncut oar]

Yes, especially for URs, if you're LBing for fleet tech for other ships you'll know

[keen sable]

there is no reason no not immediately max limit break any ship after your first twelve or so

any ship you use at that point will be in a cost limit map

[still merlin]

That, I can get that. Conserving UR bullin for future ship purpose

[graceful light]

i would be extra selective if you're tight on bulins to MLB. but eventually you'll reach the point where you have too many bulins

[craggy lance]

(dont buy the UR bulins if you're not about to use them, in token form you can store infinite of them)
(imo at least)

[uncut oar]

Solid advice

[cobalt rapids]

Eventually in a few years , maybe

[craggy lance]

(also in my case i like to have enough bulins on hand to score the event portrait if need be, but i have the excess dock slots to pull that off)

[graceful light]

well if u start AL last year or 2... or 3 and not a whale... yea

[craggy lance]

anything i ought to know about going for 100% fleet tech completion? other than "dont do it"

[cobalt rapids]

Do it

[craggy lance]

@keen sable what would i need to whale for

[novel solstice]

Go for it. It will take quite a while, and you will need a billion cog chips, so make sure you never miss any chance to score some of those damn chips.

[graceful light]

i mean if u want to sit with 4 rainbow bulins in your dock and u have low dock spaces... its a curse

[craggy lance]

i assume the wiki has all of those chances listed somewhere?

[graceful light]

skins.. always skins

[novel solstice]

I whaled for dock space before going for all the fleet tech, becuase I can't bear to "retire" my 120s, and so I needed a lot of dock space.

[graceful light]

same

[keen sable]

that's a very good reason

[craggy lance]

i whaled for dock space because i intend to have everyone

[novel solstice]

Even though you need tons of cog chips, I don't suggest whaling for those, because the dollar to chip ratio is incredibly bad.

[graceful light]

imagine level 120-ing a bote then retire... then the devs released a retrofit version of them

[shell willow]

how should i go about deciding whether i want brest or plymouth?

[viscid swift]

people had spend to get enough dock space

[cobalt rapids]

Bad is subjective

[craggy lance]

hmm looks like the core data shop is the source im missing

[soft raft]

you will want both of them eventually
Plymouth first

[keen sable]

hello pam

[cobalt rapids]

Skins ratio to dollar is bad

[uncut oar]

If you're deciding between brest and plymouth you're getting plymouth p much

Brest is w14/15

[shell willow]

alright

[uncut oar]

Ply works everywhere and is

[novel solstice]

Skins to dollar ratio isn't bad if you only have a few favorite skins. One or two top skins won't cost much.

[cobalt rapids]

I meant that its subjective

[uncut oar]

For somebody who wants only gameplay benefit skins have 0 value and therefore an infinitely bad value ratio, it is subjective

[cobalt rapids]

Cogs are the best things to whale for lategame progression

[craggy lance]

also, related, is there a list of best-in-slot items i can get in obscene numbers?

[viscid swift]

uh what

[craggy lance]

best dd gun i can get a bunch of
best aa gun i can get a bunch of
best torpedo i can get a bunch of
and so on

i understand if you guys dont have that

[viscid swift]

well for a start why

[graceful light]

other than the list that samheart manages...

[viscid swift]

also best in slot isn't really a concept that applies in AL

[cobalt rapids]

Check /equip then crossrefrence commonly available sources

[craggy lance]

full fleet tech with no retiring

[craggy lance]

willdo thanks

[viscid swift]

you could always just swap gear

[graceful light]

u dont strip gear off of botes u will no longer use?

[craggy lance]

honestly that's probably a good idea and im probably stupid for ignoring it but for some reason i think i can get away with it

[uncut oar]

Also you don't need to retire to move gear just strip their gear off when you're done 120ing

[craggy lance]

yeah ik i just havent

[uncut oar]

Keeping shipgirls with full gear on is not fleet tech grinding it's fleet power grinding

[graceful light]

oh ya there are people grinding that for epeen

[uncut oar]

Clearly compensating for something

[keen sable]

is 80 hphsg an obscene number?

[topaz smelt]

needs more

[craggy lance]

they count your total dock fleet power somewhere? news to me

[graceful light]

leaderboard yea... rankers

[craggy lance]

okay i'm gonna resist the urge to farm that for now

[topaz smelt]

the 1st requirement for fleet power farming is the ability to whale

[ripe bluff]

chat whats the difference between time fuse and non time fuse AA

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki damage calc

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[craggy lance]

and last question for now, if a given gear is R&D capable will it show as such in the gear properties menu even if i dont have the mats to do it at that moment?

[cobalt rapids]

Check the aa section

[graceful light]

current top 3 in avrora

[craggy lance]

because i vaugely remember having issues with it not showing up and idk if thats a me issue or a chicken issue

[graceful light]

im unranked despite being somewhat loaded in equipment so.. that's the scale these people are at and going for

[craggy lance]

i am actually on the board for amagi which is amusing

[topaz smelt]

if you dont have dupes youre not farming it

[craggy lance]

for the record when i say im going for full fleet tech i mean like... in my port
the dream is to be able to waltz in here, ask for a fleet comp, and when i'm asked who I have I can truthfully say "everyone"

[topaz smelt]

unless you have literally every relevant ship at 120+ its not correct to say everyone

[cobalt rapids]

U can say u have every1 raising a fleet only takes 1 week or so

[craggy lance]

see now you're getting it

anyway thanks for the economy help guys
sorry to be obtuse at times

[topaz smelt]

unless you have klaudia you cant say everyone

[graceful light]

2-3 weeks for me

[craggy lance]

MLB'd and all

[topaz smelt]

i wish i can run klaudia in my fleets

[cobalt rapids]

Mb

[graceful light]

i like the collab fleet... very fun in opsi

[topaz smelt]

and i wish i can get non shitter nodes in my runs

[craggy lance]

my collab record is spotty, i just get who i get from the dailies

[topaz smelt]

hey guys i 3stared it

[forest palm]

deserves a cookie tbh

[elfin hollow]

boys what i need to do here? Cant beat 3 chap i think i need team 🤔

[cobalt rapids]

read sams newbie guide in /guide

[viscid swift]

first give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[topaz smelt]

rip books

[vagrant panther]

Did a PR/DR ship get an augment recently?

[cobalt rapids]

Izumo

[keen sable]

what server or who is in your medal shop?

[vagrant panther]

Thanks

[cobalt rapids]

Np

[elfin hollow]

amagi

[cobalt rapids]

Grab hood

When u get 80 medals

[topaz smelt]

huh i think this fleet runs better than the sashi fleets

[cobalt rapids]

Ill wait till its out of the oven

[topaz smelt]

i need a 0 ammo bb node to test

it can take a 0 ammo cv without subs

i think its honestly a breguet diff

[keen sable]

lock your ships...

[gray sphinx]

Should I get the twin 457, second tenrai, or quad 152 from the proto shop. Currently doing PR4 and PR5 for Plymouth and haku

[stark quiver]

how will vestalM perform in w15

[keen sable]

Penny, Unicorn, anyone, Portland, Helena, Javelin. Anyone you don't have, buy them from Guild Shop(Helena) Plan to cope until you get enough medals for Hood. Avoid going below 50 xp books while you are waiting for Hood. Make sure you equipped the free gear on the correct ships.

[uncut oar]

Second tenrai p sure

[gray sphinx]

Probably better to just grab the twin 457 from gear lab huh cuz I don’t have a single one yet lol

[topaz smelt]

its a pretty expensive craft

[gray sphinx]

Well I definitely need the twin 457 for w14 if I’m following the gear setup I was given to clear it

[stark quiver]

for w15 clearing, do i use AP guns for bb

[forest palm]

you don't need 457 for 14, it's more of a convenience

[main stag]

Guys is there a way to edit loading screen?

[gray sphinx]

So I can still full clear w14 on auto without it?

[uncut oar]

Don't ask about modding the game here

[viscid swift]

yes, 457 is just preferable for it

[gray sphinx]

What would be the substitute for the 457?

[viscid swift]

Champiagn Gun

[main stag]

I was asking if there was way to choose image to load not mod

[uncut oar]

That's not how it came off as but still no

[forest palm]

[gray sphinx]

This gun?

[main stag]

Well let me ask this can I choose music?

[soft raft]

nop

[forest palm]

no jukebox

[gray sphinx]

Cool so I can just use that instead. Got it

[main stag]

Ok thanks for the info that’s all I needed

[uncut oar]

In b4 "1984"

[gray sphinx]

Quad 152 a must grab then? Idk if there are alternatives to that gun too. I’m stuck on either a second tenrai or the quad 152 now then

[viscid swift]

get the 2nd Tenrai, then the Quad 152

[topaz smelt]

quad is prob lowest prio

[gray sphinx]

Time to craft then

[tired condor]

do equipped weapons count towards gear space

[forest palm]

they do not, so you can store gear on ships you don't use

[blazing shale]

That reminds me, are there even full OSTs?

[fervent hearth]

Comrades is there any guides for a W15 - 4 full lethal clear?

[remote yarrow]

There should be one in #bot-spam /w15

[sharp comet]

which event gave away ascension box?

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/From_Zero_to_Hero

[sharp comet]

that gave rpg adventure interface

[south sequoia]

@sharp comet

[sharp comet]

okay thanks

[spice phoenix]

are there any gear prints that are more important than others in world 12 or does it not matter?

[tame jungle]

You mean the farmable gear? Farming for gear in campaign chapters isn’t worth it

If you just farm 12-4 you’ll get some 100mm blueprints that can eventually be crafted into the rainbow dd gun but that’s really it

[tired condor]

i got 4 ur bulins, should i lmb nj or wait for more copies from gacha

[plain saffron]

You can't yet

Iirc they show the feature in cn anniversary stream for future content

[main stag]

there is hope

[main stag]

Appreciate the info

[eager mulch]

blaster spreading misinformation

[soft raft]

oh whoops
dunno why I completely mixed those two up

[eager mulch]

maybe because you actually knew all along and you just wanted to spread misinformation and chaos

[soft raft]

Nah

[sinful elk]

Then should i replace Helena with Anchorage, hele kinda lack dmg

[hollow gust]

[blissful hamlet]

what stages is this?

[sinful elk]

Opsi

[blissful hamlet]

replace helena with other dps

[sinful elk]

Can you recommend one

[blissful hamlet]

do you have hinden or unzen or DDG?

[sinful elk]

None

[left cedar]

after gud amount of time i comeback and nothing changes

why Helena in Mob ?
or why Healers in Bosses ?

[eager mulch]

welcome back

[blissful hamlet]

who do you have

[sinful elk]

Hol on let me post my dock

[eager mulch]

In a thread

[left cedar]

no FdG or UvH ? they are better mobbers cuz barrages
wut ships u have to replace Helena, sinse she is better in bosses, specially in Op.Si or others bosses that have low amount of waves b4 them

[sinful elk]

Current grinding ib ship for fdg though

[eager mulch]

Uvh is really good at mobbing

[left cedar]

both togheter are somewut nice to see the barrages making a "x" in screen

[vital path]

In what stages does Mogador best perform?

[jaunty vault]

cant say

[eager mulch]

ones where she doesn’t die

[jaunty vault]

any stage you could use a DPS DD ig

[gray sphinx]

any reason to go for sextuple bofors?

[eager mulch]

it’s a good aa gun

[gray sphinx]

I'm thinking of grabbing a few from gear lab but idk if there's anything else I should go for instead

[left cedar]

go for, where ?
into Gearlab ? if u are a begginer quite on it
if u got her into researchs somehowm yeah gud ...
buying with protocore ?

[gray sphinx]

I've been using quad bofors but idk if that's gonna be enough to beat everything in the game

7 staags and one sextuple bofor

[rain vine]

definitely not
w15 uses ur aa gun from gear lab

[gray sphinx]

yes but UR aa gun from gear lab doesn't need to use sr prints and the other mats I can get whenever. I am no where close to getting that AA gun

[left cedar]

with right ships, and considerable minmax u can go through without

[gray sphinx]

so do you guys just stack up the SR AA prints? idk what else I could use those on

maybe the twin 113s since I only have 4 but I think that's lowkey enough

[left cedar]

about AA Guns, well, that depends on ur ships and strategys, generally speaking QBs are quite enough for almost everything

minmaxing, something between 1-3 Sexys, and 0-3 UR AA its enough

[gray sphinx]

I'll meet in the middle and buy one to get two at least then. I'm guessing for AA it's mainly obtaining the right ships more than gear for AA?

[topaz smelt]

Gear is just as important

[left cedar]

Guam, Shimanto, Sandy and Laff2 are a thing for it
for W15 CVs with more fighters that are gud eff% can also make ur life alot easier, things like Impla, Aquila ...

[gray sphinx]

I have all of those besides guam and laffey II since I wasn't really active during that event. Shimanto I can get eventually but yea

[sturdy badger]

Anyone got tips for W10-1?

My Bismarck got pounded so hard and my vanguard can't tank those damn bomb boats...

[left cedar]

just crush it ?
overlevel and poverty gears it will work

[sturdy badger]

Poverty gears?

[left cedar]

well, show ur fleets

[late flame]

sounds like level and/or gear issue

[sturdy badger]

I think it's gear issues. Wait, i'll make a thread

[left cedar]

almost none of easy to get gold gears are gud, alot of best gears in beggining of the game are purple ... some things purple are considerable better than like 99% of options

[sturdy badger]

Need help with W10-1

[mystic acorn]

is there a site where we can view the barrages of DD other ships?

to know which ships are barrage oriented

[sweet delta]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/舰船图鉴

[mystic acorn]

thx

[undone plover]

u can also check https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine for the numbers
but if u learn how to read it teach me as well pls

[left cedar]

iirc Thorin explained long time ago
something something
number of "waves" x number of projectiles x dmg * eff%
i can be wrong since long time not playing or reading a shit about AL

[mystic acorn]

nah my target was which DDs have unique barrages, the rest just use general guns

[ionic edge]

for opsi, what ranks of map coordinates are worth doing

[left cedar]

after clear all maps and deal with Hiddens, Strongs and Bosses ?
C5 >>>> C6 >>> rest

[ionic edge]

oh i should be clearing the entire map first.....including the middle red zones?

[left cedar]

well, u can made exceptions to C6 maps that is generally "useless" cuz they cost alot and they rewards are quite low for price and they dont lock passage to other maps, but mostly of the rest its gud to be done

exceptions to exceptions can be maded, collet stars from C6 map can be a gud thing since some rewards are quite gud to collect, and dailly missions into a C6 also a gud reason to go for it

[ionic edge]

so, yesn't for C6

[heady pier]

which one i should mlb next?

[soft raft]

NJ > Guam > Mogador

[heady pier]

tyty

[rapid grail]

generally speaking, MLB your backline URs first before Frontline URs

[gray sphinx]

who should I put my second tenrai on? I have one on shinano already

[sinful pewter]

I'd say York II. CV's have to have presets anyway

[left cedar]

Tenrai ?
well, judging by cover and not sure about where u gona use them, probally Impla > Enty > Shin

[viscid swift]

Definitely not Implacable

[warm flax]

Use it on whoever you use

[viscid swift]

It's gonna be Yorktown 2 or Enterprise

[left cedar]

110 ? not sure on it

[forest palm]

time to throw a wrench into the sync table

[gray sphinx]

enty it is

[gray sphinx]

just wanted to put it on the ship that would use it the best for now. I'll tinker with the gear when I tackle w14 or w15

it's w12 grinding time until I get them to 125 for now

[forest palm]

you shouldn't ignore CV setups cause that shit can make a difference for stuff like Abiter, and Abyssal

[gray sphinx]

I don't even wanna bother with hard difficulty arbiter and idk what abyssal is for

[sinful pewter]

You might have to start tinkering a bit sooner, but who am i to make assumptions.
CV presets and setups is an important thing because some CV's do better in bossing or against certain armor type because of avaulable loadout, while others benefit more when mobbing

[left cedar]

well, gud luck with ur chips usage ... its gona be a long journey

[gray sphinx]

I think I'll run out of oil before I hit that point. Only have 70k oil

[left cedar]

one day u will look into ur chips and start to think, where they gone ?! ...

[gray sphinx]

I have to get my ships to 120+ first before CV loadouts and setups which is taking quite a bit from how I've been grinding

[gray sphinx]

I mean this is enough to at least last me like 3 months or so right?

[sinful pewter]

I'm not asking to time airstrikes, just consider swapping gear for bossfights or something

[left cedar]

trust me dude, b4 oil cap i already have my issues lvling my ships (since i start to farm Tech stats) and after oilcap thing ... they just poof from day to night

[viscid swift]

Yep

[gray sphinx]

maybe I'm just grinding wrong but 2 hours of gameplay and my ships are already out of morale I tend to stop grinding after I have my dorm filled with ships that need to refresh their morale

so like after 12 ships I stop for the day until like 3 hours later

[forest palm]

couldn't be me

[sinful pewter]

Its fine, let them rest, go to OPSI for a couple hours

[left cedar]

oooh, w8, its
⏲️

[gray sphinx]

I already 100% the whole map after pulling an all nighter

[sinful pewter]

with full dorm you have 3 hours to 0->150 morale

[left cedar]

full dorm can be considerable 3 slots + 2nd floor
since its cheap and better use for ur free gems

[viscid swift]

Trust me, you get into a rhythm after a while and it just starts to disappear

[gray sphinx]

oh I'm not f2p so I have all the dorm slots

[sinful pewter]

Full dorm is best spending of gems IMHO

[viscid swift]

Give it a few months of grinding W12 and you'll start to see it disappear

[gray sphinx]

maybe when I start farming for tech points rather than farming to get my meta ships to 125

[left cedar]

iirc the last slot into dorm is someshitty like 1k gems, and for people that its f2p 150 dorm slot its about nothing ... even me that have a shitton of crazy shitty in head and dont use ally ships, Frenchs and Lolis, i have problem to manage with 350 slots

[uneven badger]

what ships do you use for challange mode

[forest palm]

I'm like 340 ships in, and I can't put a dent into my chip collection

[gray sphinx]

wait you only have 350 dock slots?

[topaz smelt]

grind mroe

[sinful pewter]

I know that feel, i got full dorm as f2p then struck free gem ceiling at some point and dropped out of the game for a few years

[viscid swift]

Well you have veen playing longer than I have

[sinful pewter]

it was like 430 dockspace or something

[viscid swift]

I was also an idiot early on and ignored daily raid for a few months....

[left cedar]

the last part explaing alot of it ...
no Ally ships (USS, HMS, CN) no Frenchs (FFNF and MNF) and definetly almost none lolis (majority of them its DDs)
some exceptions are done, like Vang to buff my FdG, and others that act similary to others ships i care

[gray sphinx]

I've been ignoring it for a year I need to level my tempesta ship so I can cheese it

[forest palm]

but the moment you do start grinding main fleet ship tech you do go through a fair bit of chips

[viscid swift]

I'm struggling just to keep up with vanguards at the moment

[forest palm]

vanguard goes so slow la

[gray sphinx]

if it makes you feel any better I spent time to actually 125 percy and centaur

[forest palm]

125 on percy is normal

[left cedar]

after sometime playing (insert 4k hours played over almost 5y) ur waifus it will be into 125 ...

[dense epoch]

is there a best way to level up ships as a beginner?

[gray sphinx]

never used her outside of event stages tho

[sinful pewter]

I will quote:
slot them into dorm + give exp books until they reach around lv70 + slot into farming fleet

[left cedar]

Books till 70~90, put them into 1st F Dorm, and go to 12-1
profit

[dense epoch]

how do you even get xp books? also have lvl 70 which is my starter ship

[sinful pewter]

You will start getting them as passive income a bit later i think

[gray sphinx]

ohhh now that you mention it I should've put my mobbing fleet on the 1st floor and my bossing fleet on the 2nd. I kind of prioritized the morale boost from 2nd floor over exp gain in the 1st floor

[left cedar]

that it will depends on how u like to minmaxing, and how much u play dailly

[sinful pewter]

I believe you have to level lecture hall, might be slightly incorrect, i will check

[sinful pewter]

No, mobbing fleet should be on 2nd for better morale boost.

[dense epoch]

huh what level do i need to unlock it?

[gray sphinx]

we should be good then

[sinful pewter]

Boss fleet does not lose morale that fast in comparison to mob fleet. Its like 5-6:1 in terms of battles fought

[dense epoch]

ow its lvl 50 nvm

[left cedar]

EX: if u care about MinMaxing, if u play night b4 sleep, u put them into 2nd F b4 start to farm, farm till u wanna stop, and b4 end ur game time, put them into 1st ...

if u dont wanna do this, just put them into 1st if u dont play alot, if u play more than 3h~ them probally 2nd is the thing

[sinful pewter]

Or simplier method - mob fleet on 2nd floor, leveling ships from low level on 1st floor. Boss fleet is chad enough to be outside, they will be fine

[gray sphinx]

my low level ships are usually on my mobbing fleet and then I just overkill with the boss fleet

my boss fleet is usually on the 1st floor and then I use books to level lower level ships

[left cedar]

some extremebad ships have really gud Techs ... so from time to time u have to lvl bad ships, and having them with a gud lvl is a thing to avoid them to be a huge burden to rest of ur farming fleet

[sinful pewter]

You do you, but in my case i put ships on floor 1 dorm before putting them in mob fleet

Or if fleet that farms campaign == event farming fleet

• does not equal

damn punctuation, sorry

[gray sphinx]

sooo you guys put low level ships into the 1st floor to passively get exp and then switch it to the boss fleet whenever your boss fleet is low on morale?

[sinful pewter]

i put them in mob fleet after getting to some level (80-90 i think for 12-4 farming)

[left cedar]

depends, nowadays, i just book the worse shittys to 120 instantly with books, avg or gud ships i lvl them into 12-1 ... and that its wut ? 2w of farming ?

[silk sphinx]

I farm heavily but am a late game player. All mob ships get a dorm slot, boss fleets are ships I have at 120 or 125 or at least lv100+

[sinful pewter]

in my case, i boost with books, or as an alternative, just farm 9-4 for a bit

[silk sphinx]

At my cadence books usually aren’t a problem, and cog chips are what stop the levelling process, not oil

So boss just stays outside of dorm. That’s it. Book weak ships to lv70-90 and mlb them, then just farm them to lv120+

[gray sphinx]

it'll be oil with the amount that I have cause I took a lot of long breaks and I don't think I have as much oil saved up from maint patches

[sinful pewter]

My bossfleet is usually something maxed and with cross barrages if i farm 12-4

[sinful pewter]

To my knowledge, ships at lv.100 gain exp anyways, they just do not level up

[gray sphinx]

I just realized that 70k oil is nowhere near enough for farming

[left cedar]

my boss fleets vary time to time, when no ships to lvl its just ships to keep farming 14-4
when i got ships to lvl, its some waifus i randomly choose between my oathed ones

[silk sphinx]

You’re correct, I just mean that I don’t rly level anything on my boss fleet

[gray sphinx]

maybe we'll have 130 one day since we can overcap at level 125

I think my nagato has like 3 mil exp

[sinful pewter]

It is bound to happen, i just hope it wont be soon

[silk sphinx]

I don’t care that much about exp efficiency tbh, I’m close to running out of main fleet ships to level tbh (I’m working on collab ships rn)

[sinful pewter]

You don't neccessarily need to rush things that much, there is no time-gated event atm

[silk sphinx]

But even before then if you farm heavily cog chips are a problem. Just level mob ships, boss fleet put whatever that passes easily the boss stage

[left cedar]

above 100 have a cap of 2m XP iirc, if isnt 2m its 3m ...
after that amount it will be 0 XP Earned, but still counts toward shipyard farming even if 0 showed up

[gray sphinx]

I wanna at least 120 my ships soon to tackle w14 at the very least. I can take my time for w15 after that

[left cedar]

inb4: Op.Si Blue ships its really 0xp

[silk sphinx]

That’s fine, w14 and w15 are very much lategame content

[gray sphinx]

I have the gear for w14 I believe it's just mainly ship levels

[sinful pewter]

Still, there is no rush, you might burn yourself out if you clear it afterwards, just chill and max them one by one

[left cedar]

literally no need to rush, campaign maps will be there as long the game is running ... so no need to rush, do it in ur time

[gray sphinx]

I mean I just lowkey auto all day and put them in the background on auto. The new system that lets you auto maps multiple times in a row makes the grinding a lot easier

I just come back every like 15-20 minutes

[silk sphinx]

Tbh after clearing w14-15 and getting the unique ship drops and star rewardsI’ve never touched them again

[silk jolt]

I saw new gun in gear lab

[silk sphinx]

Well I have farmed some in w14 tbh

[gray sphinx]

it urks me that I don't have at least w14 completed so maybe it's just a me thing

[left cedar]

about W14 ... i like to farm more in 14-4 than 13-4 ... and as i mention, since i'm lacking ships to lvl (since i dont lvl DDs or collabs)

[silk sphinx]

Shrug I’ll do so when I’m completely done with backline

[silk jolt]

Well I'm using that Blue gun in my Shimakaze and Some DD that focus on All out

[sinful pewter]

I would say anything beyond 12-4 is not for exp farming

[left cedar]

better fast DD Barrager gun, iirc like 3 of them use it

[soft raft]

76mm sidegrade
up to you if you think that's worth the price

[hollow gust]

You don't farm on w14?

[silk sphinx]

*exp farming for 6 unbuilt/mediocre ships

[sinful pewter]

I dont, at least not yet, and its not like i would bring there lv.90 ships anyway

[hollow gust]

Easily doable

[left cedar]

even gud ships i avoid to farm into W14 ...
or even in W13 since they need a bit more of specific things to work

[silk sphinx]

Throw in unicorn, an aa and whatnot and have some gear and it becomes just fine. There’s no problem just staying in w12 anyways

[left cedar]

once is only about coins or to burn oil, them its 14-4 all the day ..

[viscid swift]

farming vanguards in 14-1 isn't that bad

[topaz smelt]

its painfully slow tho, prob not as bad with 3x now

[sinful pewter]

14-4 even after safe is lv.107 enemies, so i could go there at least after 110-ing leveling ships, i think

[silk sphinx]

Tbh everyone else commenting that w14 is fine is an endgame player

[topaz smelt]

but leveling single backline is great in 14

[left cedar]

its a trap

[silk sphinx]

Early or mid game just stick with w12, no reason til much later to farm later worlds

[sinful pewter]

My speakers creak from all this flexing

[gray sphinx]

what's the alternative to TBM avenger for unicorn when going against w14?

[topaz smelt]

the purple one

[sinful pewter]

Why Avenger exactly?

[left cedar]

Aux one, with ASW

[gray sphinx]

I was given this gear setup for w14 when I asked for help before

pretty sure I've got everything there besides the twin gun for zwei and the TBM avenger

[left cedar]

that boss fleet seens like my usual fleets, only chonky grills

[sinful pewter]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_ASW_Equipment

[forest palm]

kill that embed

[sinful pewter]

This works for everyone? o_O good to know

[left cedar]

Plane ? CVLs only

[gray sphinx]

sooo I can just use any asw equip I see there? I'm not familiar with how w14 operates or what kind of gears you look for since there is just so much in this game. Which is also why someone helped me with a gear setup lol

[sinful pewter]

No, actually disregard that, sorry. Looks like this is not what you should be looking for in this situation

[silk sphinx]

The purple asw plane works fine, the gold version is better but is event locked

[forest palm]

Torp Bulge feels so, silly

[silk sphinx]

In fact you could maybe~~probably~~ get away without one tbh, it just makes survival easier if subs show up

[left cedar]

14-1 and 14-2 training room
14-3 and 14-4 the real thing
mostly of it, hitting ur main it will be a bad thing, considerable alot of hammers/suicides and alot of BBs hitting heavy ur main

and enemies SSs that start into light fleets in 14-3 have a shit ton of dmg into ur main if they go through

[gray sphinx]

this one? I lowkey want to full clear on auto

[forest palm]

for 14-3, and 14-4 you can do with only an ASW Aux Plane, and Hedgehog

[sinful pewter]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Consolidated_PBY-5A_Catalina
maybe

[gray sphinx]

hedgehog is basically given for free as long as you complete the daily once right?

[gray sphinx]

what's the difference between this one and the one I showed?

[silk sphinx]

You don’t have it? It’s unique, don’t lose it

[viscid swift]

that's just an aux not an ASW plane

[forest palm]

Catalina does jackshit

[left cedar]

that explain why i dont remember about it

[forest palm]

smh at Cooper, she's the reason we have it

[gray sphinx]

I mean I don't think I have it but if I sold it then uhhh ggs lol. I hard ignored the supply line dailies simply because my subs are lacking and subpar

been leveling mary to cheese the daily stage

[left cedar]

Pirate ships are just lol of how easy SS weeklyDailly became

[gray sphinx]

these are my subs rn 💀

[forest palm]

you only really need to complete Lv 65 for Sub Raids

[sinful pewter]

Cant remember where did it came from

[gray sphinx]

you don't want daily exp books?

they give gold prints too from what it looks like

[forest palm]

not really, no, I cbf to do anything sub related

[left cedar]

SS thing is weekly
and the books amount are ... almost none ?
u do more for gold plates and for SSs gears craft Bidders or get some G7e

[tiny gulch]

flagship gets increased affinity gain right

[late flame]

exp yes
affinity no.

[left cedar]

no, they get extra XP, Affinity its only by being MVP

[gray sphinx]

I mean I guess if 75 is really the only thing I need to complete for now I might just be able to do it rn

[forest palm]

Lv 65 has the least bloated pool for Bidder's grind

[silver lintel]

wait for real? so I shouldnt do the highest one

[left cedar]

imo Gold Plates >>> the minimal diff between them

[forest palm]

if you don't have like 3 pairs of Bidders Lv 65 is the fastest way to do it

[left cedar]

u only do the 65 if u cant beat the final one

[sweet delta]

65 is great for new players who shouldn't be dumping more gold bulins on trying to clear 95

[gray sphinx]

well I definitely can't do the final one because my skills for mary aren't fully leveled and she's like level 90

[late flame]

no RF? (and no dont buy her from shop)

[silk jolt]

I'll go for the gold gun now 😁

[gray sphinx]

we got it

[sweet delta]

You have three level 90-100 gold subs, it's definitely possible and Mary makes it even easier even when she's not mlb

[gray sphinx]

I do have her but I don't have her leveled

[blissful hamlet]

is this real?

[left cedar]

like, mary can do it solo and with almost none effort

[sweet delta]

Is what real

[blissful hamlet]

rerun date on the right

[sweet delta]

#al-general ?

[left cedar]

🌕 Runes, cant read ...

[forest palm]

looks like a prediction sheet, not something we really do around here

[gray sphinx]

maybe if my mary skills didn't look like this

[blissful hamlet]

doesn't even predict janus rerun, must be wrong then

[forest palm]

I'm pretty sure that sheet is skipping the event EN got for Anniversary as well

lol

[left cedar]

cheeky probally still have his sheet about every run/rerun date ... and iirc he also kinda predict some of reruns

[silk sphinx]

Just trash it.

[plain saffron]

that's just rerun prediction i think

[forest palm]

that's basically it

[blissful hamlet]

does he has prediction for janus rerun?

[plain saffron]

take release date, plus 2 years, plus minus few months

[rapid grail]

Who cares about rerun dates, order is what matters

[plain saffron]

because order is uaully fixed

[left cedar]

yo, hi there, long time
just a quickly check, that "a mimir" on ur last datamine its proposital ?
cuz its a brazilian meme ...

[silk sphinx]

Cheeky is aware of certain Schedule gaps and where historically reruns may have occurred, but he doesn’t rly try to predict much in advance to my understanding

[blissful hamlet]

with that math janus should be rerun in couple of weeks lol

[plain saffron]

tbh idk who added that there

[gray sphinx]

I'm just waiting for guam event to rerun again because I grabbed close to nothing from that event and that event is nuts for w15

[forest palm]

to #al-general with you

[silk sphinx]

Events are a bit difficult to predict anyways considering some reruns (UR in particular) they have been done out of order… and some other stuff I don’t pay attention to

[left cedar]

kinda means
"sleeping" or "going to bed" or things in that sense
but i have like to see as a brazilian guy

[plain saffron]

forgot to add, raid doesn't rerun, it just go straigh to permanent so that's idk the pattern

[rapid grail]

sandy and shimanto are good enough ships to play with, no need guam and laffey II

though, rip. you'll have to wait for around 2 years

[viscid swift]

I don't, reruns historically just haven't been that consistent in their timings

[plain saffron]

that meme is everywhere right now

[sinful pewter]

They do reruns without order? Like what they did to SMKZ?

[blissful hamlet]

does that mean janus won't get rate up?

[gray sphinx]

the gear from that event was also really good and it makes w15 less of a headache

[late flame]

iirc i cleared it with suboptimal gear but it was fun watching RF just sitting there

[viscid swift]

no she'll just go straight to the perma pool like Joffre just did

[plain saffron]

using RF is already cheating smh

[silk sphinx]

Both that and schedule wise they’re a bit inconsistent

[rapid grail]

???

[blissful hamlet]

no janus dupes

[plain saffron]

and yes she won't get rate up most likely

[silk sphinx]

Idk what smkz is tho

[plain saffron]

bcs EN finally follow JP/CN and get rid of the bait rate up

[viscid swift]

and yeah this is just blatant copium because having a rerun every month has just never happened in the game's history

[blissful hamlet]

but I need janus dupes for her skin

[rapid grail]

true, and sorry for your loss.

[plain saffron]

wait for wishing well

[silk sphinx]

Lmao I didn’t notice

[sinful pewter]

i shortened shimakaze

[left cedar]

almost 5y of waiting to follow them

[gray sphinx]

I won't be tackling w15 until another year anyways not enough ur gear on hand for that. Gotta grab some AA UR guns from gear lab

[sinful pewter]

that's how i got Perseus

[rapid grail]

good decisions, building your account up is always a good thing to do. good luck in your endeavors

[viscid swift]

They have at this point twice yes in recent history

[silk sphinx]

That’s fine. More popular abbreviations here just use the first letters of their names, like shima, or some other cut segment like “nano” for shinano

[viscid swift]

Northern Overture was pushed back twice in the rerun queue and Virtual tower reran before Kronshtadt when it historically was the other way around

[sinful pewter]

I mean, was her rerun out of original order? I mean, were there some UR reruns that have changed order?

[left cedar]

and probally it will happen more often since they have some several URs in almost sequence to rerun

[plain saffron]

why just look at UR, other events are event too

[gray sphinx]

[sinful pewter]

I'm thinking they might put additional UR's into pity pool after anniv

[silk sphinx]

Ur events to date have been rerun in the order they originally came from with respect to other UR events

[plain saffron]

that's permanent/War archive

[wanton smelt]

Guam, Brest and Kron, who is better for opsi bosses?

[sinful pewter]

Brest-Guam-Kron i'd say

in that order

[silk sphinx]

I think in general gph is fairly confident about some schedule regularities, like UR event time slots or the order in which they’ll rerun, when these reruns will happen however is not something we know or try to predict

[rapid grail]

Guam sees the most usage because she fits cleanly into CV bossing fleets
Brest and Kron i see them as mobbers, the former with the heal she gives and the latter for her consistent dmg + her crossfleet which is good for BB fleers

[forest palm]

Kron can mob, Guam goes into CV fleet, Brest can go into a boss fleet as well

[silver lintel]

brest is pretty nice for w14-15 with her heal

[wanton smelt]

Why is she good for CV fleet?

[left cedar]

they are almost equally if no heavy planes here
Brest its probally better in mobbing since healing
DMG almost equal if not heayy plane, if plane, them Guam by alot

[viscid swift]

She has really good aa

[silk sphinx]

I might be coping but I ditched Brest on mob due to anti heal strongholds killing/damaging her

[rapid grail]

Great AA, enemy planes can reveal your hidden CVs so it is up to vanguard to delete them before the planes reach backline.
Some skills that I don't remember as well, but are pretty good iirc

[forest palm]

I don't use Brest in ops so you're justified

[left cedar]

generally i do my full auto without a CB being tank .. so idk, mobbing even whe its stronghold its a joke ...

[oblique thunder]

Got a weird problem here, I have another amagi but she doesn't appear when I try to LB my locked amagi

[verbal mulch]

Brest is best in hard content where her heals matter. The easier the content gets, the less useful she is

[silk sphinx]

Tbh I haven’t used Brest at all since w14/15 clearing

[forest palm]

it's a coin toss between Kron, and Brest, both are mobbers, and the mob fleet doesn't want Kron's cross fleet unless you're using CVs only

[silk sphinx]

Did you perchance slot that lv1 amagi into some hard mode slot or somewhere else?

[left cedar]

i like to use kron to boost my FdG in other fleet, since she reduced spreed and FdG usually without this shit ton of spread reduction shoots almost always into moon at least once

[forest palm]

bro we said guam already....

[wanton smelt]

My bad

Lost track of the chat for a bit

[sinful pewter]

or commission maybe

[gray sphinx]

why don't more people talk about plymouth? is she just not good enough for late game?

[rapid grail]

guam, laff2 has seen usage but is not best. Azuma if you wanted to run Shinano + Haku but Kaza's better in that case

[silk sphinx]

Commission doesn’t pick non locked or lv1 ships

[sinful pewter]

ahe is good by default i use her in boss fleet that has at least 1 bb

[silk sphinx]

Or ships used elsewhere

[left cedar]

Ply is the best BB buffer into game ...
kinda that is so accepted that we rare need to talk about her

[forest palm]

Azuma is not worth running if you have access to all the CB, she's the worst performing of all

[silk sphinx]

People assume by default you’re using her if you’re using a bb boss fleet

[rapid grail]

she is, where did you get that thoughts? Very good for fleets with one powerful BB as the flagship, ex. 3 BB OpSi fleets, W14/15 bossing fleets

[left cedar]

PS: she also a awesome DMG dealer as Vang, and considerable chonkier than most of ships it will be ...
also bring a ASW option to later worlds ...

[boreal oriole]

I think Having Azuma is actually a detriment when you can use other upper echelon CBs instead

[forest palm]

yup

[rapid grail]

tbf she was, the times have changed nowadays and that assessment is more valid now. can just run Kaza + CV buffer + Guam

[forest palm]

even before Guam, Azuma fell off

[gray sphinx]

idk just thought maybe there might be better options now since I looked into the spreadsheet from the w15 command and they placed her a tier below everyone else for w15

[left cedar]

Azuma start to fell when Agir and Ancho came to game ...
goes hard after PR5 ...

[viscid swift]

W15 is a very different beast to everything else in the game

[sinful pewter]

Azuma might get aug one day and go Izumo route

[oblique thunder]

No I don't think so

[gray sphinx]

[forest palm]

well hopefully it gives her utility otherwise she's goin in the bargain bin

[left cedar]

Cope time ?
can i start to think about my FdG being buffed over all others UR BBs ?

[rapid grail]

interesting, I've always used Plymouth there and never had much of a problem.

[silk sphinx]

Do try to not spread copium in #gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

I mean Izumo literally just jumped to the top end of SR BBs so....

[gray sphinx]

I mean if there's no problem with running plymouth into w15 then I'll try that but idk how difficult it's going to be without guam or laffey II or any of the gear from that event

[oblique thunder]

@silk sphinx I think I know now, she's participating in guild ops. Anyways thanks

[gray sphinx]

I noticed in the guide for w15 that you should be prepared to reset runs which is what scared me the most

[silk sphinx]

Ooh forgot abt that

[sinful pewter]

I am yet to tackle w15 but i think Shimanto, Sandy, Scylla and a couple other AA vanguards can get the job done

[silver lintel]

tbf ply is below other top tier options, I only run her cos laffii aint mlb

[left cedar]

not sure about Scylla, but Guam, Sandy, Shimanto are almost a "must" into W15

[desert tapir]

Does L'Indomptable want the Twin 114mm DP (4.5" MK IV) or the twin 128mm/45 sk c/41?
For the Record she currently has the Twin 100MM (Type 98)

[gray sphinx]

who replaces guam if you're missing her

[silk sphinx]

Probably Brest

[boreal oriole]

Brest was before Guam was a thing

[gray sphinx]

damn I gotta grind out another DR?

[sinful pewter]

Gotta catch em all anyway

[left cedar]

isnt Laff2 a option to that slot ? since she is pratically extremelly focused into W15 thing

[sinful pewter]

Point was without guam or laff2

[left cedar]

if no Laff2 as well, them things start to be side options and getting less and less eff

[gray sphinx]

I don't have either so plymouth probably replacing laffey II and guam with brest

[silver lintel]

without guam and laffii u prolly have to run brest sandy shimanto

[silk sphinx]

People cleared w15 before Guam and laffii, but specifically endgame people with most of all the other sheep

Just do what you can, expect some deaths and resets

[silver lintel]

lacking musashi and aquila too so for 15-4 I have to fight recon nodes exclusively lol

[desert tapir]

bump

[agile sky]

are there any must-buy gears from the monthly core shop?

[plain saffron]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[viscid swift]

either works

[sweet delta]

135 ,128, russian 130, or chinese 130 for gold DD gun options

[sinful pewter]

Wait, i might understand Jeanne being important in w15, but is no Aquilla a deal-breaker?

[sweet delta]

no single ship is required to clear w15

but the more you miss, the worse your chances are

[left cedar]

u can do without a single ally ship into it ... but ... its a hell of trys and retrys and resets ... who knows a trauma ?

[silver lintel]

well I cleared 15-4 without aquila

[sharp socket]

so should i make a 155 kai for helena

[desert tapir]

Don't have 135s, or 130's atm. Just wanted to make sure there was not something I did not know about her stats/Skills that would make one of the options I have better. Thank you for helping regardless. You and @viscid swift are always very great help.

[sweet delta]

what else do you need ordnance for? 457mm?

[viscid swift]

it's not a high priority to craft

[sharp socket]

i asked this yesterday but didnt get anything so im back again

[sweet delta]

because 155 kai is only like 15-20% better

[silver lintel]

u need 2 155 kais for w14 anyway

[sharp socket]

i make 457 after wyvern

[silver lintel]

assume not enough plygun

[left cedar]

for Helena not, it will be a low diff for it... things start to scale if we are talking about a CL like Ply ...

wut is ironical, since mostly of them use DD Guns, not CLs Guns

[silver lintel]

for w15 I had to take my only plygun off ply to put on mob flagship lmao

[sharp socket]

i also mathed some more and the mk7 is 40% better than mk6 which is quite big so ill be making mk7 when i can

[sinful pewter]

I would say Helena might not feel that much of a difference after getting different gun, i would say her goal is staying afloat and providing scans

[left cedar]

~~ all my Ply Guns ( wut is 3 ) is on my Waifu BBs, cuz FP Stats in BB do more diff than in my CLs~~

[viscid swift]

where in the hell did you get those numbers

[sweet delta]

i don't think you mathed correctly

[left cedar]

pretty sure he dont ...

[silver lintel]

does 15-4 not give cog chips, havent got any in 10 runs

[viscid swift]

the difference is not nearly that big even comparing a +13 Mk7 to a +10 Mk6

[sweet delta]

10 runs is 🤏

[left cedar]

Mk6 need a UR Gun to lose the best HE Gun for BBs, and also dont go over 10%~ diff

[jade ibex]

what are some w14 fleets for auto?

[sharp socket]

although i havent mathed other options like twin 381 adv which i see often on HE loadout in the game loadout thing

[viscid swift]

depends on what you have, didn't I reccomend some W14 fleets for you already?

[sweet delta]

there seem to be some problems with your maths

[jade ibex]

no that was 15 cheeky

[viscid swift]

Twin 381 is garbage

[left cedar]

why people love to ignore Mk6 and helldiver ?

[viscid swift]

what were they again?

[silver lintel]

u can prolly use the same thing for w14

[sharp socket]

also whatever this thing is

[silk sphinx]

Loadout are often just jokes

[forest palm]

looks shit

[sweet delta]

what ship and server is that

[sharp socket]

it has 1.2k likes

[sweet delta]

i've never seen a loadout with more than 50 likes

[sharp socket]

fdg lil enty

[sweet delta]

that just looks like some faction gear nonsense

[left cedar]

twin 105 ...
isnt bow removing DMG againts light ?
also ... in who this it will be used ? cuz seens a joke to UR BBs

[silk sphinx]

I’ll say this, I’ve seen bad loadouts FAR more often than even just good ones

[rapid grail]

rates are bad there for some reason, 15-1 is the better spot for farming cogs

[sweet delta]

the rates are the same but 15-4 costs 43% more oil

[gray sphinx]

why aren't they using staags

[viscid swift]

take my advice, 99.9% of those are garbage, do not take them seriously

[sharp socket]

but why does it have 1.2k likes then

[rapid grail]

most ppl who use loadouts have little knowledge of the game, most of the time

[wind hazel]

likes don't mean anything much

[viscid swift]

your average player doesn't know the difference between a good and a bad build

[left cedar]

far as i remember just Suchi try to make loadouts in game, but mostly of us dont use it, since dont have a space to explanations
and EN dosnt read anyway

[sharp socket]

ive never seen anything cross 50 likes in loadouts

[topaz smelt]

cuz they all suck

[sinful pewter]

Loadouts are better used within a guild when someone asks for help

[sharp socket]

…nevermind what the fk

[sinful pewter]

and someone could share his\her loadout, i believe there is an option to copy and share it

[wind hazel]

56k surely must be great

[left cedar]

loadouts are better when u are at GPH asking for help and we send a pic with gears

[dusty tulip]

most effective loadout frfr

[left cedar]

Rudder on DDs ... woaw ... time traveling is a reallity

[gray sphinx]

my server hardly ever uses loadouts so I don't even see a single loadout with more than 5 likes . Lexington servers truly are dead

[sweet delta]

even if it's bug, this doesn't change the fact that player recommended loadouts are suboptimal whether they have 0 likes or 30 likes

[wind hazel]

im surprised you people even click ingame loadout

[left cedar]

mostly of us are kinda tryhards ... and we already know alot of game itself

[gray sphinx]

never did until I saw other people posting screenshots of them so I decided to take a look to see what kind of monstrosity they would put on there

[gray sphinx]

I know about a ton of gear but I just don't know how to apply them lol

[sharp socket]

i check loadouts once in a while when im too lazy to open renhex and make my fleet with gear then ask for help

[gray sphinx]

don't know how you guys choose what gear goes well against what and what parameters to look at when looking at gear

[left cedar]

well, i'm thinking about the dinossaurs that start to play around when i start or even b4

[whole crypt]

Janus probably won't rerun anyway

[sharp socket]

so anyway another question who do i put my tenrai on

[left cedar]

Haky, Enty, Shin ...

[desert tapir]

Really really dumb question because I don't see it in Sam's guide so I very much am probably missing it. Is there a guide/chart/group of boxes that defines what counts as Low AA, Everyone Else, and AA Carry?

I have been treating any one with a base AA of <280 as Low, AA between 280-300 as everyone else, and the people with AA >300 as my carries who get priority on the best anti air guns.... I'm pretty sure I'm doing it wrong to be honest but if its written somewhere I'm running right past it.

[whole crypt]

@vale spindle I just recommended that guy to not run strongholds and hard stuff until later in the month and asked him to do leveling in 11 and wait for gear, if he's out of oil there's probably still other things he can do in OS than wasting time reentering strongholds over 10 times

[rapid grail]

Depends on what CVs you are running. Shinano, Haku and Enty are popular options

[viscid swift]

You build a memory of what's good against what after a while

[blissful hamlet]

[sharp socket]

enty it is then

[whole crypt]

maid raids have 0 history of rerunning... and raids in general

[gray sphinx]

so do you just memorize what gears are good in what world and then just wait for the testers to make builds when a new world rolls around?

[whole crypt]

I think essex was the only one that was ever reran?

[viscid swift]

In terms of what aa guns to use

It kinda doesn't matter because everything will all be relative in a fleet

[sharp socket]

so enty gets the tenrai and unicorn gets the wyvern?

[blissful hamlet]

janus the most exclusive ship

[desert tapir]

Thank you kindly

[left cedar]

just AA stats isnt a thing ... even ships that historically have 0 AA Guns have AA stats cuz of gameplay ...
AA stats are just one factor, u must look into Skills, amount of AA Guns and Eff%
in general, really few are AA Carys

[whole crypt]

she'll show up in perm at some point, all previous maid raid ships have become perm

[gray sphinx]

from my knowledge I think yea that's what I did at least

[viscid swift]

No, I remember what gear is good against what kind of enemies and when new content roles around I build what I think will work based on what I know and adjust if it fails

[viscid swift]

Essex on CN and JP and crosswave on all servers

[whole crypt]

ah

but yeh, that stopped being a thing

maid raids weren't reran, neither was joffre

[viscid swift]

Yep

[forest palm]

EN never got Part 1 of maids lol

[gray sphinx]

so how do you know when to use a homing beacon versus not. Like a specific example would be do you always keep a homing beacon on implacable? I'm assuming the homing beacon is so that implacable can hit her slow first before other CVs start hitting their airstrikes

[viscid swift]

You use a homing beacon when you need it for timing

[left cedar]

its a sync device pratically, if someone must be faster or needed to lauch first u adjust with beacon

[whole crypt]

you use a beacon when you need that carrier to just slightly faster for timing

[viscid swift]

Simple as that

[sweet delta]

and implacable prefers to strike second of three carriers

[gray sphinx]

so each CV ship has different loading times?

[whole crypt]

you can also adjust timing by using different planes

[gray sphinx]

how do you know what their loading times are?

[sweet delta]

🧮

[gray sphinx]

is it just testing in game?

[left cedar]

CV Timmings are ... problematic ... BBs with Bis2 is also somehow a mess to learn as well

[viscid swift]

Using a calculator

[gray sphinx]

there's a way to calculate loading times??

[viscid swift]

Yes

[whole crypt]

you equip the planes and looking at the equipment screen
some carriers have RLD/launch time adjusting skills or if you use beacon/maintenance manjuu you need a calculator

[viscid swift]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

[whole crypt]

outside of skills and other launch time modifiers, the equipment screen shows you the "base" launch time your current plane setup has with your carrier's current RLD

[sweet delta]

i saw that, what virus did you try to send

[whole crypt]

the google virus

[wet prairie]

Is Izumo the first PR with a custom augment?

[viscid swift]

Unique Aug yes

[wet prairie]

How good is she now? Looks like it’s pretty good

[gray sphinx]

this looks like a lot of work lol

[left cedar]

coping to FdG, Agir and Roon get them

[wet prairie]

agir will get hers 3 years after her FS

[south sequoia]

Rising to the top

[viscid swift]

It kinda is but it's also just a lot of plug and play

[desert tapir]

Am I at least facing the correct direction with this?

[south sequoia]

She's one of the top ssr bbs now

[viscid swift]

Depends on the content as always but yes

[wet prairie]

Comparable to nel kai/hood or closer to MP?

[viscid swift]

Up there with Owari and Flandre

[left cedar]

here we go with people probally ignoring gold or purple cuz no shinning, and why DD Gun ? why not CL gun ?

[viscid swift]

Twin 137mm is better than a lot of CL guns apparently at intercepting

According to suchi anyway in W15

[whole crypt]

it's better than a bad CL gun yeh

[left cedar]

better than Tri155 Kai or better at FP boost outside of interception outside W14/W15 ?

[viscid swift]

Better than everything but a Plymouth gun

[whole crypt]

I have no experience intercepting in 15 without q152s

[desert tapir]

Trying to listen to advice I see here while prepping for W14/15

[viscid swift]

For Normal suicide boats anyway

[desert tapir]

[gray sphinx]

I've been using nepguns for my BBs

[whole crypt]

better than 155kai?

[viscid swift]

^

[left cedar]

so for W14/W15 can be a thing, but outside Gold CL Gun FP Boost >>>

[silver lintel]

155 kai sucks in w15

[viscid swift]

It's not like It's a big difference anyway below W14

[whole crypt]

why does 155kai suck in 15
not that I've ever used it in 15

[silver lintel]

fail to catch suicide boat lel

[viscid swift]

It tends to miss normal suicide boats

[gray sphinx]

what's better than a nepgun now adays? I have a feeling like nepguns just aren't used anywhere now

[desert tapir]

Welp I can try to do it with what I learn from here, then if I fail ask for help. Hurray for comunity!

[gray sphinx]

you've got twin 137s for w15 and then triple 155 kai for w14

[whole crypt]

solution: just use q152s

[left cedar]

my waifus BBs are the priority for Plyguns anyway

[dusty tulip]

RAINBOW GOOD

[gray sphinx]

I wish I just barely got my second tenrai through proto shop

[whole crypt]

my priority is Shimanto and Plymouth and Musashi and BisZwei and Alsace and Vangaurd

I only have 1 floating one that I'm considering whether to put on Soyuz

[silver lintel]

shimanto not using her own gun?

for non aa content I rather use harbin lol

[whole crypt]

Shimanto gun is 🚮

[desert tapir]

This is the ply gun yes?

[left cedar]

if i start to list my priority for Ply gun it will be a long list between KMS and SN BBs ...

[sharp socket]

why does guide say not to have more than 2 twin 113 AA gun in one fleet

[left cedar]

my 3rd one just fit into her owner like 1h ago, Thurin is the 3rd owner of a Ply Gun here, and yeah, just 3rd, cuz i got 5 Twipple b4 she hits on Gearlab

[desert tapir]

Currently only have one and its on Krons because she is currently on front line. I'm making sure i have enought BP tp full max out the T6 girls once they fate sim is up, after that I might go back to T5

[left cedar]

Long RLD, wut makes ur AA RLD too long, cuz its a fleet avg time, not by each ship

[sharp socket]

for sandy

[whole crypt]

because roomba is relatively slow but you'll be fine using more than 2 of them in the right cases

[viscid swift]

You have less than a month before PR7 drops at this rate

[silver lintel]

im still trying to comple pr6 and brest lol

[whole crypt]

for ch13 using roomba on all your vanguards is going to be less detrimental than a poorly opimized AA setup if you don't know what to do with your other guns

[desert tapir]

I only have 100 BP left to go on Hindinburge and then I'm done. If I can't do that with a month left (entirely likely given my luck)... well I don't know

[sharp socket]

unrelated question but so many nicknames for stuff, do you have a glossary somewhere

[left cedar]

i get something like 5.7 Hindy Bps/d, but i burn considerable alot of cubes on it, so u would take something like 3/d if u done ur resarchs correctly so u can get probally 100 till there

[whole crypt]

if you're done with rest of series just move on to PR7 so you won't be behind, Hindenburg can wait for catchup prints

[late flame]

wait we have pr7 now?

[viscid swift]

100 BPs in 30 days or so should be perfectly dooable

[whole crypt]

July

being "caught up" with research means once you're done with the newest series gives you the freedom to go back to older series if needed

quite a few of us here should have gone back to 5 for more q152s after PR6 was done

[sharp socket]

if pr7 does that mean more stuff can be coined

[viscid swift]

Not until January probably

[whole crypt]

no news of coining and catchups yet

[desert tapir]

Reallistically yes. But my RNG is statitically... not good.

[sharp socket]

aw man

[left cedar]

i spend 2ys in PR3 just because i love my CAs above everything else (exceptions to FdG) ... but i always priorizy at least 1 of new UR Gear and KMS ships till D30 whatever they are PR or DR in every new PR

[viscid swift]

Well if she's the only ship left

[whole crypt]

but regardless finishing newest series efficiently gives you room to play with what you want

[viscid swift]

It's just a matter of maintaining research uptime and taking face researches when they appear

She should be the only one that shows up now

[whole crypt]

if only 1 ship left doing 2-3 of her face research in a day isn't far-fetched, 100 prints is completely doable in 30 days

[desert tapir]

She is, and grab the shortest reaserach available if shes not... but this has been my last two weeks really.
Still she is appearing so I will get them all eventually.... proabbly..

[whole crypt]

unless you're going to be away for significantly longer than you can queue don't seriously recommend 8hrs

[left cedar]

DRs 8hr is a fine catch ...

[viscid swift]

I don't mind them TBH

[whole crypt]

well that's 4 prints guaranteed there anyway so it's not bad per se

[sharp socket]

is avp coinable or no

[viscid swift]

She is

[sharp socket]

so should i take her face research or take agir/haku

[late flame]

coin = yes

[viscid swift]

Definitely the latter

[desert tapir]

I'm going to sleep in about ten minutes and going to be sleep for eight hours on work days. No reason not to grab it.

[sharp socket]

alr glad ive only been doing things wrong for about a month

[left cedar]

if u mean AvP them Haky/Agir cuz they are DRs, and they will take long time to end, and even if u have AvP reserachs i dont recomend, cuz she is coinable, and researchs are expenssive than dailly disccount coin enhance ...

[whole crypt]

unless you don't login until some 16 hours later though
we generally just prefer shorter researches for more refreshes

but 8hr face is not like a horrible choice

[signal leaf]

adalbert or brennus, whos the better tank

[left cedar]

if i have to make a aproach of how i deal with Face Researchs i would say that is pretty much
DRs 8hr >DR 2.5 > DR 5h > PR 2.5 > Qs > Gs/E 2h

[viscid swift]

I prefer them if anything for more consistency

[sharp socket]

if a gold ship in my dock is T3 or below can i safely retire them

[desert tapir]

So Again I just did a refresh. I'm going to bead soon. I grabbed the eight hour because its a face, and I will be asleep the entire time. No refresh will really help me.

I then grabbed the shortest time frame for each set I have. I'll be logging in every three hours during work, so I can keep regulery check of the refreshes. I will gain no refresh by not taking the eight hour one before I go to bead.

[left cedar]

generally i'm also seeking UR Gear so ... i dont trully focus on finish PRs cuz they will be done b4 UR Gear and DRs anyway

[desert tapir]

fair

[viscid swift]

No because tech is a thing

Also if you're gonna retire ships

Start with stuff you can reobatain easily

[whole crypt]

more rather every time you queue a new research the research options are refreshed, which is why shorter researches = more refreshes, this is regardless of whether you'll be off for 8hrs as long as there's no downtime

but again 8hr face is not that bad a choice, like cheeky and esdeath said some people do like it for consistency

[sharp socket]

if i keep everything for the sake of tech ill have to keep buying more dock

[whole crypt]

because you're not guaranteed more face researches after the refresh

[viscid swift]

Then buy more dock space

[left cedar]

u get used to that ... dock space is probally the best use for gems till something like 500 dock slots ... depending on how much a collector/waifu player u are
and u can retire bad ships after u take the tech if u dont plan to collect them

[sharp socket]

theres 700+ ships and i can only have up to 370 if i were to use all my gems on dockspace

[left cedar]

im already over 100 retired ships, and my tech is almost maxed, isnt cuz i'm avoid Ally ships and specially french ones

[viscid swift]

There's definitely not 700+ ships if you don't include collabs

[sharp socket]

well maybe 400 if i get to 14-4

[left cedar]

iirc something something 600 or a bit less

[topaz smelt]

time to put money into the game

[viscid swift]

Or just spend your gems wisely

[left cedar]

oooh, there 715 with collabs ...

[viscid swift]

Not a penny put into the game still

[desert tapir]

A about 100 of those are Retrofits. And Meta's were removed from normal Doc Space. Four of them are Bullin's

[left cedar]

[desert tapir]

....I just realized what I should have said in my servey was that I would like a third doc for Bullin....

[sharp socket]

how the hell do you get 750 dockspace without paying

[plain saffron]

After you 120 them for twch you can retire if you want

[wind hazel]

be old player

[desert tapir]

Carefull spending of earned gems, gifts, and guild space.

[plain saffron]

Play the game and don't "take a break"

[viscid swift]

I should actually have more but some stupid stuff happened like linking the wrong post last anni...

[topaz smelt]

so i almost killed all the planes on a 0 ammo 3 star bb node

[viscid swift]

Hmmmm

[topaz smelt]

aql died tho lol

[viscid swift]

Of course

[desert tapir]

Anyway it time for bed. Night everyone. Thank you for help. Thank you again Cheeky!

[viscid swift]

No problem

[rose whale]

I maxed all the PRs, now just want rainbow gear. Which research would be more effective for gear print, purple face or blue q?

🥴

[whole crypt]

As of Sunday, 6/16/2024, there is a total of 581 regular ships, 96 of which can be retrofitted. There are 32 research ships, 65 collab. ships, and 35 META ships. Together, these make up a total of 713 obtainable ships in the game.

[inner delta]

[viscid swift]

Yes but not by much

It's a very marginal improvement

[left cedar]

someone must be wrong and the tier list make its outdated and already showing 715 ...

[whole crypt]

well that was pulled from wiki's ship list

[forest palm]

Might not have added Kind Fred, or Wichita M

[forest palm]

[whole crypt]

what list are you using esdeath

[left cedar]

tier list maker, literally, they list 715 ... probally they are counting the Sirens ... since they are showed up on the list ...

[whole crypt]

so yeh 713, -2 if not CN, -6 more if not JP

[plain saffron]

Wiki is automated so it should be correct one

[topaz smelt]

unless someone forgot to delete cache

[fervent hearth]

the mandatory level for ships for 15 - 4 would be 120 right? 110 wont work righttttt

[novel condor]

prob

[fervent hearth]

just 1 ship the rest are 125 om

[whole crypt]

it's simple math with level advantage. 110 is taking 20% more damage and doing 20% less than 120s.

[silver lintel]

safe threat lvl gives 20% dmg bonus right?

[fervent hearth]

mb im bad at math

[whole crypt]

the base danger level is applied to your ship levels for level advantage calc, for 15 it's 10 so it counts for 10 levels, yes

[late flame]

just wait for lv130 before doing w15 gotcha

[whole crypt]

devs already said they don't really want to raise cap again because poor scaling with level advantage

[silver lintel]

yea 125 is already painful enough

also im array starved af

[fervent hearth]

real

[whole crypt]

not just arrays and leveling, adding level cap just invalidates all the "hard content" they have now

[wary timber]

Is this a decent enough gun for Peinz Heinrich as I don't have anything remotely better to use on her at this point?

[bleak mica]

release new cog type

[silver lintel]

how do I change this fleet to be able to auto safe 15-4

[whole crypt]

do you have this

[silver lintel]

right now fleet 1 doing boss 1 and 3

[whole crypt]

eh, mob fleet should be doing mob nodes and boss 2

[wary timber]

A 203mm ? I assume for the faster reload and FP stats?

[whole crypt]

the 283 is only good for avoiding shields

[wary timber]

Hmm I see. I'll go look for a spare one

[late flame]

283 works for a transition gear until something better comes along

[whole crypt]

eugen gun is fine

[wary timber]

Before I switch.. I found this on my Kursk. Better than that 203mm you're recommending or nah

[whole crypt]

ehhh I think it was around the same/slightly better? can't remember

you can check equip guide

[late flame]

+bonus vs med, heavy - else about the same as 203(eugen gun)

[sweet delta]

240 compared to Eugen gun has worse? light and much better heavy

And new players probably don't see much heavy

[whole crypt]

new players don't have kursk gun either

[sweet delta]

new player with Kursk gun

[late flame]

kursk gun was event reward wasnt it?

[wary timber]

I'm not exactly new lol. I left multiple times and came back

[whole crypt]

frostfall was weird but yeh event locked

[late flame]

aye looking at sam's guide lol
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/CA_Guns.jpeg

[whole crypt]

if in doubt check the guide first, really

like if you have a more detailed/nuanced question on top of that then sure

[wary timber]

Yea cuz I'm looking for a general use gun till I can get the triple barrel 234mm for generic use

[whole crypt]

hindenburg gun better

[sharp socket]

so i have 4 gold purin, do i mlb jda, volga or u37

[plain saffron]

Who you need more

[fervent hearth]

11-4 is for XP right?

[whole crypt]

11-1 better (per oil)

[plain saffron]

12-1 above if possible

[fervent hearth]

12-1 giga xp?

[plain saffron]

Can drop cog chips

[late flame]

w12 has cog chips so its better yeah

[whole crypt]

12 is better XP than 11 but worse XP per oil
it also can drop chips
generally we prefer 12 because it has less dangers from enemy BB shelling and suicide boats that plagued some players in 11, but you'll need some level of AA

[sharp socket]

volga would be good secondary healer but i dont think i need her, jda would be good to help vanguard live more which is a problem i face in opsi, u37 for sub but i dunno how much subs help me anyway

[plain saffron]

If you don't have subs fleet built yet probably a good time to build now

[sharp socket]

how much of a difference do good subs make

they spam torps right which dont do that much if they dont hit anything

[plain saffron]

Could help when fighting enemy with 0 ammo in w14/15

I don't remember exact %

[fervent hearth]

Ye I just need to level jean so I can beat 15 - 4 full lethal clear sadge

[whole crypt]

I never used JdA for 15-4 so

[fervent hearth]

Did you use 2 CV healers? For mob

[whole crypt]

I think I was using Unicorn/Volga

but that was like what, 11 months ago?

[sharp socket]

there was volga 11 months ago wut

[fervent hearth]

Same im using Bismark tho as main BB for mob since I don't have musashi

[whole crypt]

Abyssal Refrain original run was 2022 so yes there was Volga 11 months ago

[sharp socket]

oh that was a rerun

[vale gyro]

Hi is it worth it to buy the blackbird firebrand from the core data shop to save the electronic components mats in building wyverns. Or is it not worth the 800 core data?

[late flame]

i'd say yes its worth

[tame jungle]

Yeah it’s worth it if you’re severely lacking in electronics

If you already got 3 or so sets of white and black shells you’ll be fine probably

[vale gyro]

Haha i do, i guess ill be fine

[silver lintel]

Eventually u just swim in core data

[vale gyro]

I see, thanks!

[plain saffron]

only if you have extra core data, if not then don't

you only get 2910 per month so better to get other aux first

[agile sky]

PR ships, like any other ships, are basically worthless if u cant get them mlb right?

[whole crypt]

the core income is also less if you haven't unlocked 13hard

[lofty garnet]

can someone tell me which one is her secondary gun? is that the torpedo?

[steady beacon]

It's her ghost secondary

Here you go, taken from the wiki

[lofty garnet]

thanks

[plain saffron]

all torp CA have ghost secondary gun

so that skill increase the ghost 2nd gun

[summer sable]

Is this torpedo good

[frank pulsar]

its good but its usage is pretty niche

[steady beacon]

It can be in certain circumstances
On the whole less universally applicable than the "standard" gold quad mags on autoplay though

[summer sable]

It says like sequential does that mean it fires one at a time

[frank pulsar]

afaik yea its one at a time in quick succession

[lofty garnet]

its usefull when going against submarines and not with auto play

[frank pulsar]

thats not why its good, it barely hits subs in w14/w15

[atomic abyss]

^

just use hedgehog at that point

[steady beacon]

https://pasokau.com/wp-content/uploads/soubigif/raigeki17.gif
Line-firing a la Mk IX, with weak homing

[summer sable]

ok thanks

[dawn hamlet]

Hi I'm doing a boss in OPSI, I need confirmation if I understood correctly, on this boss map I can't repair, retreat and need to use the order "regroup and rest" if I wanna fight it again?

[plain saffron]

use scan

is that the boss at center of the map?, look s like no

[dawn hamlet]

I don't think so, I was just clearing the map

[plain saffron]

you can repair, can use the command, just can't leave and heal

there's also 2 mobs that are accessible through the corner that you can kill to remove low resolve

[dawn hamlet]

I mean, even if I repair and be full health I can't attempt another fight

[dawn hamlet]

ohh, okay that's it! I never noticed it

you're right, there was some mobs in the corner, thank a you a bunch

[lofty garnet]

thats even new for me

[polar eagle]

Been struggling with 14-3. What armor type is this enemy ship ?

[plain saffron]

what node and how many triangle

[frank pulsar]

looks like a cruiser to me
its prob medium armour, i might be wrong though

[shell willow]

@slender heart yo, i didnt manage to fully level stuff yet, but i just tried hard arbiter for fun with the fleets you cooked and managed to beat it already, albeit barely big thx again

[plain saffron]

since no answer, sort it yourself 🏃‍♂️
https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes

[polar eagle]

i'm sure there is at least one in every single node of 14-3. The node i'm currently on is a large main fleet (3 triangles).
Also, the in-game name displayed for it is "Command ship" .

[plain saffron]

man why my site use CN names

[polar eagle]

sorry didn't see message

[atomic abyss]

aren't command ships heavy

[plain saffron]

heavy

[polar eagle]

Ah. thanks.

[polar eagle]

yes it's that one. Exact same number of hp. Thanks again !

[whole crypt]

basically any big bad looking ship that sits at the back in ch13-15 just assume heavy
everything effective on heavy effective on medium anyway

[steady beacon]

Quickly hides Alsace's barrage

[lament bay]

i tried looking at the fleetbuilding vanguard part, since i dont get when can you use a dps vanguard over tanks. Maybe its bc i dont have aux at +13 but when i tried hard arbiter boss my vanguard was dying before my main fleet and i was using 3 tanks basically (guam, cheshire, carl) but its not too early they start dying at like 20s remaining. Still everyone gets damaged pretty evenly, so you cant use a dps vanguard in those cases? or if you can whats that im misunderstanding exactly?

also, since CV fleets have priority for kazagumo/sirius and helena i assume stuff like plymouth or DDGs have place on BB fleets mostly? and in the middle position only? While ones like Hindenburg/drake can sit comfortably in the back position?

[whole crypt]

these?

Brennus's sword barrage is 1 bullet per sword remaining?

[steady beacon]

Yes
Not to say she's somehow bad against medium, ofc
But the mods are weird, to say the least

[frank pulsar]

if your adaptability is low and/or the arbiter has mods that increase dmg dealt to your vanguard then its normal to die earlier
usually its fine to run a dps vanguard as long as you have at least one tank, although depending on your backline, supports might be more potent

[lament bay]

i have like ~220 on each of the adaptability

[steady beacon]

Note that this month's Hard Arbiter has the FP/TRP Overload module, so once she hits < 30% HP her damage shoots through the roof
It certainly can explain why your vanguard suddenly collapses 20s from end of fight

[frank pulsar]

that being said you shouldnt be using offensive auxiliaries on your dps vanguards as they will die too quickly with them

[old zodiac]

is hiryuu souryu combo still good to use on boss fleet? campaign wise

[atomic abyss]

very very outdated

[steady beacon]

That and, of course, Grand Debut, but that's a problem 3/4 of the Hermit variants pose anyway

[old zodiac]

does it still work though? i just want to reach cahp 9

[atomic abyss]

it will serve you well up to w13 probably

[old zodiac]

aight thank you

[whole crypt]

~~I just stopped bothering finetuning to oneshot harby ~~

[whole crypt]

there are better carriers that you want to start raising anyway, though after ch9 is better since you can level them with oil cap

[steady beacon]

Well, I consider it an exercise in general principles anyway
Knowing what works, how it works, and why helps when you want to build for other stuff anyway

[hollow gust]

After oneshotting harby every single month of the year I stopped too , got boring

[old zodiac]

aight i'll just change them on world 9

it really sucks to have no oil cap

my mlb fleet just burns em quick

[whole crypt]

you don't have to do it right at ch9, you'll need to clear the stages and get it down to safe first anyway

[tame jungle]

Were there any gimmicks in chapter 13 yet or was it just planes part 2

[lament bay]

is it normal that my middle ship was taking basically same dmg as the off tank in the vanguard? basically does that mean both were taking lower dmg or more dmg than usual

[steady beacon]

Against Hermit? Not unreasonable, because of her missiles

[whole crypt]

13 is a lot more planes than 12, and where you first run into enemy repair, AA and command ships

[tame jungle]

Right i’ll keep that one in mind

[steady beacon]

AoE-type damage like that just affects everyone equally

[lament bay]

so it pretty much varies on the boss if you can comfortably use more or less offensive ships in the vanguard?

[steady beacon]

Correct

[lament bay]

i think i've read recently that the new vanguard meta is using more DPS ships than tanks, so i was curious about that if its a viable suggesting against most stuff or not

[steady beacon]

To use some recent examples
Kirov META had relatively low vanguard pressure, so using a full-on DPS vanguard with little regard for survivability was acceptable
Trying to do that against most Arbiter variants is suicidal though

[half plover]

after a wyvern gear does it make sense to craft junkers d4 for avp? or is there a different gear prio in opsi

[whole crypt]

Rodney META worked with an offensive vanguard too

[steady beacon]

I will go to my grave disbelieving that
There are some fights where DPS units are acceptable, even ideal
But to say that this principle applies to ALL fights is nonsensical

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#gear_lab

[steady beacon]

Ye true I suppose
But Kirov was basically NO vanguard pressure, while RodM had some

[half plover]

oh ty, I didnt know about this one

[whole crypt]

Junkers D-4 is more important as a converging TB in general than just activating AvP's skill

[half plover]

yeah all I knew was that it is good on avp haha

[steady beacon]

Just note that there may be occasions where you want to put the German plane in her fighter slot instead, and a different TB in the TB slot
Wrangling AvP's timing is one of the most finicky things in the game
Not as finicky as Alsace, though

[kind needle]

Shall I go Plymouth next? Just finished harbin

[atomic abyss]

sure

[kind needle]

The problem is, I only have 230 prints, would that be fine?

[plain saffron]

how do people play on iphone with that bar

[kind needle]

I use guided access

[whole crypt]

dev first enhance later

[plain saffron]

if you have any unbuilt pr1-4 ships maybe build them

[kind needle]

The unbuilt ones I havent done rn is Izumo, Ibuki, and Nep at PR1, Kitakaze, Azuma, Gascogne in PR2, Drake, Cheshire and Odin at PR3 and the PR4 is finished

[plain saffron]

idk if you need more BB or not

[kind needle]

I have plenty, (Soyuz, Sushi, MP and FDG FS5, Ulrich, NJ, etc)

[whole crypt]

well the idea is just if you dev any of those first you can use the coin prints

[plain saffron]

drake maybe

[whole crypt]

if you're already spending coins on any ships currrently then there's no rush

[plain saffron]

yeah as long as you make use of the daily coining discount

[kind needle]

Before ply?
Anyways, What she do?

[plain saffron]

dmg, ply not coinable, drake is coinable

[whole crypt]

most of the older PR ships don't really do anything at this point, you're really just developing for completion's sake

[kind needle]

Should I try getting PR6 rn or just finish older prs like Drake/Azuma?

I just noticed that I can D30 Shimanto rn

[whole crypt]

PR7 is coming soon so up to you

[kind needle]

Hmm aight… I’ll finish Ply then finish what I want to finish before PR7

[steady beacon]

Took me a while because I'm busy testing and didn't want to rotate this fleet back in until after I'd tested the other combinations on my list
But here's something concrete, as opposed to airy proclamations without basis: https://streamable.com/ixtbet
I hope you'll consider joining the Georgia gun cult
(Also, I just noticed this was a Musashi-before-Alsace first rotation run, so for those interested in what I'm talking about, it can be found here)

[whole crypt]

I don't want to +13 more 457s

[plain saffron]

nice AMV

[steady beacon]

Hush, it's just the initials of the backline
Also, with my naming scheme, because I switched their order, it should really be VMA

[whole crypt]

that's harby I guess?

[steady beacon]

Ye

Nobody does runs against the Normal Arbiter do they?
Since it's not repeatable

[lethal bolt]

wanna ask,whats a good poverty aa guns i could use if im low on gold rarity aa guns?

[atomic abyss]

purple QUAD bofors

[strong tartan]

iirc purple roomba is good just slow like gold roomba

[atomic abyss]

too slow

[strong tartan]

uhh

[kind needle]

This is fine or no?