gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

alsace, then soyuz, then shinano

[noble wyvern]

i maybye or maybye not in 6-2 (tottaly not busy with the events)

[atomic abyss]

actually wait

[viscid swift]

Alsace first

[atomic abyss]

just mlb alsace first and hold on

[balmy wharf]

Ok, and ignore mogador?

[keen sable]

chonky ships generally give more than lolis

[noble wyvern]

I wonder who

[hushed aurora]

Do I get these gear resources from operation siren? Can I rush it with a 110+ Lvl Fleet?

[keen sable]

there's a whole UI dedicated to telling you how you will get though

[plain minnow]

Is Bearn META worth picking up?

[noble wyvern]

should i continue doing campaign or do some war archive?

(also what ship should i try to retrofit while am it since my starter ship alr retrofit)

[wispy pendant]

just using 6-1 as an example, but all of these map drops are USS, and you can use dupes to limit break them:

you can look up wiki or in game to see what ships drop where and just limit break ships you're getting while grinding your campaign

[atomic abyss]

unicorn

[keen sable]

vestal not real ship

[wispy pendant]

i forgot, she looks brittish

[atomic abyss]

get at least the first copy

[noble wyvern]

but i alr got a dupe ranger but i cannot lb the ranger with the dupe,is it bc im glitched or

[atomic abyss]

locked or above level 1

[wispy pendant]

because she doesn't have enough levels

[noble wyvern]

k

[wispy pendant]

you need lvl 10 for first limit break, 30 for second, and 70 for 3rd

[pseudo hearth]

Kind of funny, since she’s remembered as (and her skills reference) being Enty’s main repair ship.

[noble wyvern]

the dupe or the actual?

[atomic abyss]

the actual copy needs to be level 70 to mlb

[wispy pendant]

the actual, your screen limit break probably shows the level needed. look at the screen

[noble wyvern]

i should do this then?

[noble wyvern]

imma check first.

[atomic abyss]

yes
do get the 2nd floor if you haven't

[strange sphinx]

[noble wyvern]

oh yeah there is a lvl req

[strange sphinx]

Looks I need to Clear 13-1 to just buy the second floor

[atomic abyss]

what

[keen sable]

passive dorm xp is super cope

[midnight bluff]

Anything worth using war archive tickets for the flame touched dagger event?

[strange sphinx]

missing some Gems

[atomic abyss]

you've clearly been spending gems on stuff you weren't supposed to

[wispy pendant]

time to use your wallet to atone for your sins.

[atomic abyss]

atone for your skins more like

[strange sphinx]

I mean 244 Dock is enough rn cause

[balmy wharf]

Is it worth it to retrofit warspite, or is that just a waste of resources?

Also, an shan and Chang chun has the final retrofit thing called main fleet mode. Does that make them exclusively main fleet, or does it just allow me to move them back and forth between main and vanguard?

[strange sphinx]

I can only run like 3 run in 12-14

[atomic abyss]

warspite is a waste

for cc and as, it's a toggle
can change back and forth

[wispy pendant]

waste of resources... warspite is only for completionism now

[noble wyvern]

does the war archive or guild worth it to do/join or i just continue doing campaign?

[atomic abyss]

war archive is worth if you need IB tech for fdg and agir

[strange sphinx]

Can't blame me i that Enterprise skin

[soft raft]

Main fleet mode is a toggle back and forth, but not like it's worth it to put them in main fleet mode 99% of the time

[noble wyvern]

whos fdg and agir

[wispy pendant]

guild has a lot of benefits. war archive is nuanced but limited usefulness. do it if you know why, like for the IB fleet tech, or the 60 clear ship/gear, etc

[strange sphinx]

[atomic abyss]

fdg = friederich de grosse from PR2
agir is from pr4

[balmy wharf]

Ok, is the -40 EVA debuff and the +1100/+1300 HP buff from the final retrofit dependent on which mode they’re in?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[strange sphinx]

though what worth, Azuma or FDG?

[atomic abyss]

fdg for sure
azuma doesn't see much use

[wispy pendant]

these are the IB ships from research, you can see FDG and Agir there:

[strange sphinx]

Plymouth almost finish to get

[noble wyvern]

do i just join a guild that is almost full or what (i suck at choosing option )

[atomic abyss]

choose an active guiild

[balmy wharf]

Ok, so the final retrofit worth isn’t worth it then?

[wispy pendant]

might be better to #friend-and-guild-id and look for an active one

[noble wyvern]

soo i should change?

[atomic abyss]

it is not worth to turn an shan and co into backliners, yes

[wispy pendant]

"developing" ships in the shipyard is separate from your "research focus" but you should focus on PR4, and read guides on "research"

[balmy wharf]

Ok, thanks

[noble wyvern]

but i havent seen a guild that is in my server yet

[keen sable]

and you have research focus 5?

[wispy pendant]

what server

[strange sphinx]

Yes also

[noble wyvern]

oh research focus (still kinda confuses me)

[strange sphinx]

though almost complete also

[noble wyvern]

[wispy pendant]

probably need to find a guide or a video

[noble wyvern]

prob

[glacial heath]

which guides on research?

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[noble wyvern]

well 265 more reasearch

[wispy pendant]

that's catchup

[soft raft]

that's catchup
it's sepreate from actual researches

[atomic abyss]

read the guide linked above

[wispy pendant]

you need 343 to get to full lvl 30 development

[noble wyvern]

?

[atomic abyss]

just read this...

[noble wyvern]

-

[wispy pendant]

I might need to refer you to an eye doctor also

[forest palm]

didn't know extra spoonfeding was on the menu

[noble wyvern]

well i am reading them but i kinda not understand/confused/bamboozled some of the text (prob bc English is not my first language)

[midnight bluff]

What is recommended to spend excess war archive tickets on once you have all the ship drops?

[wispy pendant]

good luck, the game is hard to understand for people who speak english as their first language.

[atomic abyss]

Ok and?

[wispy pendant]

wrong channel

[forest palm]

[atomic abyss]

Wrong channel

[viscid swift]

nothing, just hoard them

[soft raft]

Also lmao how is that AI art

[wise trail]

Welll
What channel is for rambling

[wispy pendant]

#al-general

[viscid swift]

#al-general

[noble wyvern]

Like oil too or no?

[soft raft]

sir you are in #gameplay-help
#al-general is that way

[viscid swift]

uhh what

[atomic abyss]

the channel named #game-feedback is for giving feedback on stuff
#al-general if you wanna ramble or get dunked on

[wispy pendant]

they asked for war archive ticket hoarding

[atomic abyss]

this is gameplay help

[noble wyvern]

i may or may not accidently used some of the email by accident (before storage exist)

[wispy pendant]

wump wump

just use it at this point, or buy dorm food

[noble wyvern]

oh

[wispy pendant]

👍

[noble wyvern]

i alr did tho-

[wispy pendant]

this looks good

[tired condor]

when im doing an auto clear, does a fleet automatically get the ammo when its empty

[atomic abyss]

no

[wispy pendant]

sadly no

[noble wyvern]

is the new foch meta good?

[atomic abyss]

shit

[worldly pewter]

how much iron blood tech do u have ?

[wispy pendant]

TLDR, all purple meta ships are garbage, except for niche pvp use of fortune meta.

[noble wyvern]

uh

[wispy pendant]

no, tech

[tired condor]

wish i could retire purple meta ships

[soft raft]

time to go farm divergent chessboard then

[noble wyvern]

lemme check

[atomic abyss]

why tho, meta ships don't take up dockspace

[wispy pendant]

they don't use dock space anylonger

[soft raft]

they dont take up dock space anymore, what more can you ask for

[tired condor]

o rlly

[soft raft]

yes
ever since Alsace event came out

[noble wyvern]

only this much-

[wispy pendant]

I think we need to work on your english more

[atomic abyss]

ironblood faction tech

not ironblood gear

[viscid swift]

They mean faction tech points

[noble wyvern]

the boxes?

[worldly pewter]

go to the menu on the left side there is something on the top right

[noble wyvern]

oh didnt know that (havent checked it)

[wispy pendant]

it's okay, the game has a lot of terminology and the UI is not super intuitive until you learn it

[subtle grove]

opinion on suzutsuki?

[atomic abyss]

one of the better DDs

[viscid swift]

she's decent

[subtle grove]

aight thanks

[noble wyvern]

well this is all i have. (maybye too much file?-)

[wispy pendant]

to unlock more IB fleet tech, you can run the divergent chessboard war archive and max limit break the map drop ships there

roon also is somewhat easy to unlock in shipyard and gives a decent amount of IB fleet tech for acquisition and for max limit break.

[noble wyvern]

hm ok,wbt the lvl part? using the tech t1 pack and t2 pack?

[worldly pewter]

also u can tap the upgrade button when u reach certain thresholds

[strange sphinx]

are we sure we are playing the same game

[wispy pendant]

to max limit break, the ship needs to be lvl 70, so if you have exp books to use, that can get them to 70 quickly

[noble wyvern]

just upgrade,still waiting

[worldly pewter]

change to roon in the pr1 research

[noble wyvern]

k

[wispy pendant]

wdym

[noble wyvern]

why?

[wispy pendant]

roon also is somewhat easy to unlock in shipyard and gives a decent amount of IB fleet tech for acquisition and for max limit break.

[worldly pewter]

to make ur life easier gathering ironblood tech

[noble wyvern]

hm ok then ill try that then

[wispy pendant]

once you have her developed, you can use coins to buy her blue prints, around 10 a day is a good amount of discount if you can afford it, and she gives 76 more points for getting to max limit break

[strange sphinx]

hmmm question, does AL have PC client or need emulator?

ah emulator

[heavy shale]

when would I use kearsarge?

[glacial heath]

this has to be quite comp, right?

[soft raft]

no not really

[wispy pendant]

i don't anymore

[atomic abyss]

when you are using yorktown 2 really

so med/light armour cv comps

[subtle grove]

btw is there a UR rerun ever?

[undone plover]

Where is the event tab
I cant spend my tokens

[atomic abyss]

they rerun once after at least 2 years
then they are permanently added later

[atomic abyss]

go to shop you baka

[wispy pendant]

Seems like we'll get a rerun of them all, but Reruns for Shinana, NJ, Shima, UvH, and Kron have already run.

is the perm addition about a year after their rerun or is it quicker? i haven't been paying attention

[subtle grove]

damn well aight, i have time to save cubes i guess

[undone plover]

It is 1+ year now tbh
Aquila rerun was march-23

Keep in mind UR reruns come with 44 build tickets

[heavy shale]

what was the command to get world 15 fleet sample?

[wispy pendant]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[soft raft]

All non-collab events are guarenteed to rerun and later be peramently added (takes 2+ years after intial run and and ~1 year after rerun respectively)

*Non-collab not Non-UR events whoops lol

[vagrant harness]

i might need help rearranging my opsi fleet

[wispy pendant]

start a thread

[sinful pewter]

Raid events are those where we had to just kill a boss 15 times a day?

I liked them more than generic events tbh

If we take lore aside, they are much more user-friendly than point-and-click adventure we have now

If only we could 100% a map in one go at least...

[vagrant harness]

OpSiFleetHelp

[viscid swift]

#game-feedback is that way

[grizzled creek]

So was wondering... what do I do whilst no event is active ?

[forest palm]

grind world 12, campaign progression, ops? there much to do

[slow prism]

campaign maps, operation science, fight against Wichita

[sinful pewter]

Oh, sorry! i thought i was in general, and tbh i didn't know we have feedback channel here

[slow prism]

There's also War Archives, Making progress on blueprint ships in Shipyard, etc.

[grizzled creek]

I can't reach world 12 yet , so I assume I work on leveling my fleet up

[grizzled creek]

Idk what one to do for those so haven't touched it

[sinful pewter]

Also, i might be a casual player, but i find progressing H13 maps engaging enough, will prepare a bit and venture into W14

[slow prism]

War Archives basically have past events, some ships you can farm there. Blueprint Ships in shipyards basically unlocks rather powerful ships, but it's quite a bit of work

[sinful pewter]

@grizzled creek depends on what gear you are lacking and what ships you need from there. IMO its fine to leave them as is until you figure that out

[grizzled creek]

Well I'm lacking almost everything gear wise

I still consider myself new so hard to pick something to start on

[sinful pewter]

I would say trying Mirror Involution (NJ event) for washing machines

[viscid swift]

it's not worth it

the drop rates are too low to justify it

[sinful pewter]

So, only for pity on limited ships?

[viscid swift]

if you're stuck in W9 or 10 farming Divergent Chessboard D4

[viscid swift]

if you want them yes
they're also not limited, they're all perma

[hallow iron]

What gear can drop in d3 chessboard? (ik the main goal is German fleet tech but curious about the gear drop)

[sinful pewter]

Hmm, then i would argue to skip WA unless aiming for a specific ship. And from what i know, washing machine is either through research lab or event drop, hence i proposed to try and farm them, as it's easier to have a couple to not juggle them around between ships

[viscid swift]

I refer you to the wiki for that

[hallow iron]

Your right I keep on forgetting wiki has those info lol

[viscid swift]

WAs are mainly for farming IB ships for IB Tech, otherwise it's all just collection pretty much

[wispy creek]

so Sandy get to like 1100 AA stat now before skill procs....this is goofy

[sinful pewter]

I feel a slight bit of faction bias there 😄

[viscid swift]

it's not, there's a massive concentration of IB ships in that one map and a lot of the good PR ships to get early on are Iron Blood
FDG, Agir, AvP

[wispy pendant]

no, it's just a easy source of IB tech for known and recommended research ships

[sweet delta]

level 144 new player
Light armor without planes, sandy has 12% siren killer and no 💍 . So 156k comfy between Harbin and ply if equalizing siren killer. All +13 quad mag with full defense aux, all +13 guns ply ply, mog harbin, 100 kai sandy

[viscid swift]

so what you're saying is sandy good

[slow prism]

Sandy is good, yes.

Especially when you need AA

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm does 12-4 very best to farm for Research Exp?

[viscid swift]

it's good, best is debatable

[sweet delta]

Best depends on the players goals

[grizzled creek]

Yea I'm on W10 rn

[strange sphinx]

Alright, what's the meaning of Cyrstal ball

[grizzled creek]

I do still need to level up that 2nd fleet to progress further

[tame jungle]

12-4 gives great coin per oil returns and isn’t as hard as ch13

[sinful pewter]

It means the question is vague to get a precise answer, i would say

[tame jungle]

So if not the best, it’s at least very good

[strange sphinx]

Oh well kinda farming for Research Plymouth

[viscid swift]

it basically means we don't know and/or additional details are required

[strange sphinx]

well running with two HMS vanguard

[sinful pewter]

From what i can tell, farming W12 is acceptable enough for ships starting from lv 90+ if stage is made safe and if boss fleet is good enough and have crossfleet barrage

[sweet delta]

Best pr exp grind is wherever you grind normally with oil cap when not doing pr exp

[tame jungle]

Just run 3

[vagrant harness]

Would appreciate it if someone checks out my thread

[strange sphinx]

Still finding the third vanguard

[grizzled creek]

For exp it's recommended to do my highest stage past W9?

Or am I farming an old event ?

[strange sphinx]

hmmm should I use my 125 Belfast just to fit in that 3 vanguard

[viscid swift]

D4 of events and W9/10 are comparable but Divergent Chessboard gives you IB ships

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm what's IB ship? Iris?

[tame jungle]

It doesn’t matter just put 3 ships in there because if not you’re missing out on way too much xp

[wispy pendant]

do we have any theory crafting on what kind of gimmics we'll need to build around for witchita?

[vagrant harness]

Is samdy good again??

[grizzled creek]

So I should farm that first ? Can I clear D4 ? If I was farming D3 of this past event

[wispy pendant]

she's better, not amazing, but pretty good

[wispy creek]

hard to beat sandy on pure AA stat but theres more to a fleet than AA

[viscid swift]

yes, most likely yes

[sinful pewter]

For exp - you have to find balance of reliability of your ships. What, aside from their level, affects their effectiveness? Gear (could be improved through gear lab), gear refine level (+11 is noticeably better than +10), fleet tech (not too much, but every point counts), stage lethality level (lethal vs safe is difference in enemy level scaling or something like that). So, you improve your gear, lower the lethality of more difficult stages and can farm them easier

[strange sphinx]

Well 12-4 is now in Safe state so I just farming for exp rn

[sinful pewter]

12-4 is good enough for gold also, and occasionally drops cog chips

Straight from wiki, https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_12

[sweet delta]

~~One day I'll adjust that table for mob blockage ~~

[glacial heath]

there is a high chance next ur, if main, will be a cv/cvl?

[slow prism]

Well next UR will most likely be a rerun: Vanguard

[marsh summit]

hi guys

[sinful pewter]

I would like that, and from what i've heard is Vanguard has, aside from damage and stats, have some main fleet utility?

[tame jungle]

Well you can see her utility in her skills

[keen sable]

someone did on 9 i thought

ok just a note versus empirical values

[sinful pewter]

Sure enough, i've seen her in some meta fight showcases, she seems to find her place in BB-only setups, as she places a dmg increase debuff, if i understand it right?

[remote yarrow]

Hi welcome to gph you got any questions?

[silk helm]

yes, my questions is how are you doing smo0tie

[keen sable]

some azurstarshine bloke

[strange sphinx]

Smh

[hollow gust]

reddit dude huh?

[hallow iron]

What is st? Single target?

[sinful pewter]

Yes, to my knowledge

[vagrant harness]

what are the basics of backline fleet building? generally 1 battleship 2 cv is recommended?

[sage sluice]

heavily depends on content

[sinful pewter]

I would say generally yes, but sometimes it depends on density of certain emenies. Too many suicide boats - needs a BB or its secondary improved. Too many planes - 3 CV is an option if you are not locked with ship class

[worldly pewter]

basic backline should be 3cv or 3bb
mixing them gets away from being basic to advanced imo

[sinful pewter]

Some UR BB's are basically yelling at player "i buff CV's" so why not add them if they have good synergy

[hollow gust]

cause CVs pair better with CVs and BBs go better with BBs

[worldly pewter]

yeah i think that isn't basic

if u want to mix them u want to really dive into the worthiness of the skill synergy

not to mention cv want stop for their torpedos when bossing

[sinful pewter]

I would say that some stages do not allow you to have 3 CV, but some stages have so mush enemy air that you can't have 3 BB *if that made sense

[hollow gust]

Well for camoign stages ofc u mix due to different needw , not because of BB buffing synergy

[worldly pewter]

i just wanted to make an emphasis on the asker 'basic' side of the question

[sinful pewter]

I mean, after you understand that you need a BB added, you then check which BB is better to add, hence you try to add synergy to your CV's

[eager mulch]

mono hull back lines is not basic

[sinful pewter]

basic shelling BB is worse than BB that decreases damage or makes a debuff or slows enemies or buffs CV's

hence you choose synergy with your CV's and vice versa

[elfin hollow]

What

[gritty gull]

Based on the time between pr3 release and the buyable ticket for pr3 when can I expect a buyable pr4 ticket?

[hollow gust]

thats not really true? considering ships like musashi and fdg despite not being "CV buffers" are some of your best piks

[sinful pewter]

correct me if i'm wrong, but if you have Enty and York 2 and you need a BB, between Musashi and NJ, which would you pick?

[hollow gust]

musashi easily

[eager mulch]

Musashi

[sinful pewter]

i give up. its my gears that does not spin well

[hollow gust]

?

[rocky fjord]

~enough livability
~dmg

[cobalt rapids]

grubbing on the cat xp i see

[eager mulch]

NJ in the same fleet as enty and yt2 does nothing for them except 15% AA and 5% DR which is like nothin

So musashi clears

[hollow gust]

musashi is also way tankier and does more dasmage

[sinful pewter]

I stand corrected

[eager mulch]

correct on what

[remote yarrow]

corrected, like he thinks you are correct

[eager mulch]

I’m always correct

[remote yarrow]

But you say Amagi Chan is good

[eager mulch]

she is

[sinful pewter]

I thought that +15% avi applies within NJ fleet too

[hollow gust]

Nano Chan > Amagi Chan

[hollow gust]

Even if it does , I'll take Musashi still

[sinful pewter]

Dont rub any more salt into my wounds

[undone plover]

u cant do survey on main if u do it on alt account?
there goes 5 coobs

[eager mulch]

are you gonna tell me amagi-chan is bad?

[remote yarrow]

I never said that

[wispy pendant]

i want a tier list for the lil boats now... or at least a filter for them on the ectl

lil boats deserve fleet tech also

[sinful pewter]

Just in case - i value and appreciate the feedback, even if (and probably especially if) i am wrong.
It is just somehow counter-intuitive for me to understand that a NJ is less usable with carriers than Musashi in the same fleet

[worldly pewter]

it doesn't matter since tier lists are mainly for new people who will never have the smol boats

[wispy pendant]

Is lil fdg and lil shinano unironically good "newbie" ships, or nah, just follow the newbie guide?

[sinful pewter]

smol boats are re-running, no?

[worldly pewter]

were there instances of them rerunning ?

[wispy pendant]

they eventually get added to prem pool, other than that, i'm not sure, I think they rerun eventually

[worldly pewter]

oh perma pool

[wispy pendant]

i definitely got two smol graf spees

[soft raft]

yeah the chibi ships do rerun then get archived

[worldly pewter]

[sinful pewter]

I think the only truly limited ships are collabs

[slow prism]

Going back to that question with this after finishing 13-2 in Hard Mode. (it's a bit brutal lol)

[hollow gust]

Why tf is your Sandy main tank , when you have 2 other giga tanks

[sinful pewter]

can you show Sandy gear?

[slow prism]

Idek >_> blame the advice. The damn fleet survived through mobbing fleet and boss lol

[hollow gust]

[remote yarrow]

What advice?

[eager mulch]

one fleeting W13H?

[slow prism]

yes

[remote yarrow]

If it was Cheeky you 100% misread

[sweet delta]

At 2 exp per cat per battle, that's 4000 cat exp for 5000 AP in c3 not counting akashi shops. 20 free blue cat boxes per month is such a steal!

[eager mulch]

maybe cheeky mistyped he does that a lot

[slow prism]

It's really not that remarkable.

[remote yarrow]

I don't think he would typo the positions

[slow prism]

for @sinful pewter

[vocal sigil]

help with opsi fleets

[remote yarrow]

Anyways, swap Guam and Sandy around

[slow prism]

Yeah you are right I should have XD

[sinful pewter]

OOh, i totally forgot Sandy has an item after this patch!
Does baguette DD gun work instead of NP gun if her main dmg is barrage, as far as i know?

[slow prism]

I was surprisingly plowing through 13-2 that I didn't even think about that LOL

The only one who had low HP was Musashi which I think was one of their main factors in their survivability, and of course Unicorn

[soft raft]

there's little notable difference between baugette gun and the NP/China gun to the point that I find little need to swap to baugette

also pretty sure baugette gun isnt faster if not a bit slower than the latter

[sinful pewter]

W13-3H, got A, only Guam was left standing in vanguard. Gotta improve setup

[sweet delta]

What did you feed your sandy

[hollow gust]

how tf was guam the only one alive

[verbal mulch]

Does Sandy’s augment buff her AA before or after her gear, cats and fleet tech?

[sweet delta]

It's just another AA percentage increase like all other skills

[sinful pewter]

Before that, how can i clear\sell unneeded items from this storage? I stuck a limit

[sweet delta]

Equip them on ships or feed augments to other augments

[undone plover]

is 13-1 farming possible without uni?

[sweet delta]

Does Perseus count

[verbal mulch]

But what number is the percentage based on? Just raw stats or stats with fleet tech and cats and gear buffs added to it?

[sweet delta]

Percent is multiplied on most flat stats including tech and cats and gear

[sinful pewter]

Sandy after improvement (added pistol), Guam gear, Unzen gear

[eager mulch]

VH Guam

[sinful pewter]

I understand you imply that it would be better to just plap a toolbox on her, but my reasoning was this part. And since she is in boss fleet she is usually to fight one fight, so gains from toolbox were not that much, hence i chose a bit of DR. Admittedly, 13-3H is against carriers, and this stuff is not working but i expected it to work on CB main tank

*in usual circumstances

aah. disregard all that. she is medium

[eager mulch]

Guam has medium armor, making her heavy would make her weaker to planes and take more damage

[sweet delta]

Free from AL, are you implying that kimocheese is wrong?

[eager mulch]

it implies I’ve stopped playing the game

[sweet delta]

Is that a manjuu on Unzen

[stark quiver]

did u really just identify a ship from the small pixel of background

[sweet delta]

Honestly just put blue 76 on sandy if you don't have 100 kai or twin 138.6

[stark quiver]

looks like unzen to me lol

[remote yarrow]

It's actually her skin

[stark quiver]

more importantly manjuu on unzen is atrocious

[sinful pewter]

i literally wrote her name in my message lol

[stark quiver]

didnt see

[sinful pewter]

Why?

[stark quiver]

gimme the reason u put manjuu on her first

[undone plover]

manjuu needs the ship to be EU to work

[sweet delta]

Because she's dying

Put washing machine and toolkit

[sinful pewter]

sigh

[sweet delta]

[undone plover]

could also put ascension box or the rpg thing

[soft raft]

content where she would live with VH armor is too easy to warrant it and then in late campaign VH becomes a active detriment beause Heavy armor is more suspectible to Air attacks and torpedos compared to medium

[sinful pewter]

As for rpg thing isnt rpg thing worth with at least 4+ factions in a single fleet at least?

[twin spoke]

I haven't been into Operation Siren for too long but wtf do I do with all those Operation Supply Coins? All the port shops ever want is the special tokens, and the artificial scarcity on those is crazy ._.

[sweet delta]

Why such a specific number of 4 factions

[sweet delta]

Port shops sell special tokens for supply coins

[stark quiver]

you just spend all of them, on shops merchants and whatnot

[vocal sigil]

can someone check my thread pls

[twin spoke]

Where?

[undone plover]

it could still give u the barrage or the heal which doesnt need any factions
and even 1% stat boost to everyone is better than toolbox heal on boss fight (probably)

[sinful pewter]

My confidence in any knowledge about this game is ruined lol

[twin spoke]

There's literally nothing to spend it on 💀 the shops only want tokens x.x

[stark quiver]

port shops

[undone plover]

i just learned yesterday that AvP german plane requirement also gives her AVI
and I have been using her for the last 8 month
dont feel bad

[sinful pewter]

I usually buy anything i can from port, and spend the rest on occasional akashi, and the rest just sits in my pocket

[stark quiver]

half of NY city shop is token

[sinful pewter]

Also, Sandy really rips with her item from what i see

[twin spoke]

I wish there was an option to trade in the coins for tokens x.x

[undone plover]

there is.
in the port shops and akashi shops

[stark quiver]

what if i told u there is

[twin spoke]

Well not for me sadly

[stark quiver]

Yay or nay, id say yes but

[sinful pewter]

As far as i know, you buy coordinate loggers, then clear red zones from those coords and get tokens

[hollow gust]

thats fine to take. u arent that broke

[remote yarrow]

With no further context, yes

[undone plover]

oh is it your first opsi month? nothing much u can do about it really
pay attention to the akashi shops they usually sell the tokens

[sinful pewter]

i would

[twin spoke]

Yeh I haven't ever seen an Akashi shop in Operation Siren even tho I cleared about 75% of the map

[sinful pewter]

You find Akashi shops randomly on the battle map, chance is random and she sells like 10-20 tokens i think

[twin spoke]

Also next to the token counter in the shops it says "exchange" but that ain't actually a button you can press despite looking like one, idk why they did it like that

[undone plover]

that is for after reset
The excess coins u dont spend become vouchers for another shop. it shows u the exchange rate

[sinful pewter]

13-3H, mob fleet with low ammo debuff

Wait, wait

[hollow gust]

put ur tank in the 1st slot please

[twin spoke]

Oof

[sinful pewter]

now that i think of it, Sandy clashes with Scylla

[twin spoke]

So I gotta sit on 50k coins with nothing to spend em on

[undone plover]

make sure u are checking all 4 blue port shops
they refresh every 3 days
and just keep clearing whatever content u can
strongholds give a large number of tokens and coins but they might be difficult to clear depending on your ships levels
u can still clear them though
just heal at ports and go back in

[twin spoke]

While the game gives me too little tokens to buy the useful stuff from the shops

[weak turret]

can sandy with new item tank now, it gets a decently sized general damage reduction or does she need to be shielded in middle of formation also sandy in mob or boss fleet for W13?

[eager mulch]

no

[viscid swift]

No, no

[remote yarrow]

Why is your Sandy main tanking

[viscid swift]

What even is that fleet

[sinful pewter]

It just happened

[hollow gust]

Order your vanguard into Laffey Scylla Sandy

[eager mulch]

Implac on mob tech

[undone plover]

looks like ch12-13 so doesnt mean much tbh. nvm u wrote it was 13-3h I missed it mb

[twin spoke]

Also Izumo's item seems to be really good? Reads like it is atleast

[viscid swift]

It's a good Aug yes

[shell willow]

might be stupid question, but it means that i can leave to a port to heal, come back and not lose anything right? this is practice battle arbiter on normal diff

[sinful pewter]

What i meant to say, isnt Sandy's AA is bigger than Scylla's and Scylla's AA buff does not work? As for mob fleet, Shinano+ Haku+ Uni is better?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[sinful pewter]

As far as i know, OPSI resets every month unless you did not clear quest maps there. Looking back, its best to clear quest maps in 1 month IMHO

[viscid swift]

Sandy's not receiving scylla's aa buff either way not does she even need it

[sinful pewter]

I mean, Scylla's buff is essentially wasted, no? Or its only Sandy who does not receive a buff?

[shell willow]

you mean clear them at end of month?

[viscid swift]

The latter

[slow fox]

Augment makes her Portland-Tier

[hollow gust]

laffey is right there lmao

[viscid swift]

2*

[hollow gust]

[sinful pewter]

I usually give bad suggestions, but the main point of OPSI and best loot comes from boss that resets every month.
Until you clear OPSI quest line, your OPSI will not reset.
And you will not have access to juicy boss

[shell willow]

[eternal basalt]

Juicy boss comes at end ch5, reset at end ch4... because ch5 wasn't there for a year

[sinful pewter]

This too, i was a bit confused by all this and did not clear quest maps for quite some time. But at some point i went meh and cleared quest maps only to realize that i missed a lot of loot

In not clearing quest maps earlier

[half plover]

I was like I can clear ch4 by the end of the month just realising I was missing a lot of loot too because just clearing quests isnt enough in first month

because it will take a while until you get enough tuning to actually fight content that gives juicy loot

so ideally you want to burn all your AP today lmao

[sinful pewter]

Why today, of all days

[eternal basalt]

Have 15 more days, and each day gotta get 200 META points

[half plover]

we gotta grind lmao

[eternal basalt]

Easy if you have dailies, but before that...

[half plover]

this game is called Azur Lane; too much opsi already

as someone told me

[eternal basalt]

"as someone told me"
Do what you want...

[rich valve]

how strong are the new augs?

[sinful pewter]

Ok, third go at 13-3H after a bit of improvements.
IJN carriers into mob fleet, Unzen for 3rd IJN ship requirement of Shinano, also i will see how good is Laffey II tankins is (if not that good, Sandy it is), as for boss fleet - Implacable with tenrai and Saiun Kai, York2 with hvarcats (because med armor), Cheshire because of high AA and a bit of bulk.

[viscid swift]

Yeah...

[undone plover]

bf109 would be better vs medium than hvar
but also most ppl run flapjacks since u also want aa

[sinful pewter]

I got flapjack\tigercat on both on boss fleet in fighter slot

[remote yarrow]

Sandy is even better now, Izumo good, Malin meh and the other ones are forgettable

[viscid swift]

I'll just say up front of you have them Aquila and Independence would be my choice for the other 2 mob slots

[charred mauve]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[undone plover]

dont u also want 2 EU ships for YKII or is she not very dependent on it?

[viscid swift]

Preferably yes

[sinful pewter]

Hmmm, i would have to compromise on either Plymouth or use some USS CA, hmmmm

Or add NJ instead of Musashi

[rich valve]

NJ instead of shinano/haku maybe

[sinful pewter]

Then Shinano skill breaks

[stark quiver]

im a bit late but are u testing damage or tryna pass 13h

[sinful pewter]

I will just plap Anchorage instead of Cheshire

[sinful pewter]

Just working out how to better do it, as i need to improve my knowledge if i want to make reasonable decisions going into w14 later

[undone plover]

could also do ykII guam+laffey in mob and shift the IJN to boss
not sure about boss tank tbh but brest + sandy works in ch15 so

[sinful pewter]

Implac and Musashi goes well in boss fleet, and i wanted to pair IJN carriers for synergy

Will this work for Ancho?

[viscid swift]

that AA gun is bad for AA

also put faster reloading torps on her

[sinful pewter]

Like so?

[stark quiver]

do u have purple one of this?

[viscid swift]

yes to the torps, no to the AA gun

[undone plover]

italian twin 90 prolly best

[viscid swift]

this is what you want on her if you don't have 57s https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_90mm_AA_(Model_1939_Prototype)

[sinful pewter]

lemme dig through gear lab

[undone plover]

not everyone is rich sushi

[viscid swift]

the torps you have on her are fine

[keen sable]

ancho has irrelevant aa. an accelerator is fine

[sinful pewter]

I wanted to look for magnetic duals, nothing in gear lab. will look for fast magnetics later

[viscid swift]

don't bother

you won't find any

[sinful pewter]

for accel AA guns - will this work?

[viscid swift]

you don't have Twin 90s?

[keen sable]

hazemeyer is better...

[viscid swift]

use that

[sinful pewter]

Sorry for spamming screenshots, but why twin 90 is better than twin 37 then?

[viscid swift]

yes

[keen sable]

range without being trashy

[sinful pewter]

Oh. didn't take range into consideration

is twin 37 only good to make into UR AA gun?

[sweet delta]

37mm literally looks like a trash can

[jade mauve]

hello, i need some help with getting 3 stars in 15-3. My mob fleet tends to die with just a few battles left on the map so i don't think i'm missing that much damage. My boss fleet can also deal with both bosses so the fleet can be strictly for mobs

[soft raft]

Have you got the threat lvl lowered to safe yet or no

Also why is Laffey II main tanking

[forest palm]

that sub fleet is an interesting choice

[jade mauve]

nope, i just started clearing recently. i could try that

[soft raft]

And you're not supposed to have the boss fleet fight both boss fights because a debuff is applied to it after the first one

You cant avoid doing that in 15-4 but there's little reason to do that for 15-3 if your fleets are good enough

[jade mauve]

they're my only leveled subs lol, i ran out of exp packs leveling leonardo

[jade mauve]

yeah but they can clear even with the debuff so i figured i might as well save my mob fleet from taking unnecessary damage

[undone plover]

could try percy in boss. will help crossfleet to mob
also how does the mob die? van or backline? i think shimanto might be better than sandy if u have her dev'ed

[sinful pewter]

Is there a specific benefit from using Jeanne there? I'm just curious, i havent been to w15 yet

[undone plover]

i think her invincibility passive helps keep the van alive but not sure

[jade mauve]

she keeps the vanguard alive

i think for now i'll just get the node to safe and then come back if i still can't 3 star

[undone plover]

i think BZ + certificate is also another strategy

[sinful pewter]

it may sound dumb, but is Ognevoy an option?

[remote yarrow]

For what W15?

[astral turret]

Does anybody have like an example fleet setup for Opsi/Harbiter?

[remote yarrow]

I'm not too sure tbh she doesn't have any AA and idk about her survival capability for W15, but ask the experts

[sinful pewter]

Understood, basically, her heal is not enough to provide survivability in w15, as the rest of her kit does nothing about AA\EVA\DR

[worldly pewter]

it will depend on what u have

[undone plover]

her heal is basically a toolkit. I dont think it is anything of note tbh. iirc her barrage was rly good but u dont run vanguard for dmg in 15

[jade mauve]

i mean, damage is always good but def not the priority

[sinful pewter]

I now see why people mention Shimanto in W15 context - AA, anti-burn, heal vanguard, DR

[jade mauve]

it depends, but in general you want 1 mob fleet and 3 boss fleets with hopefully at least one of them being a CV fleet in case one of the fleets in a siren node has bb damage reduction

[sinful pewter]

People usually suggest starting a thread here and place your fleet and dock there for suggestions

[soft raft]

she's not a DR and afaik she doesnt have a heal
I think you're confusing Brest and Shimanto as being the same ship

[astral turret]

Thanks, I started a thread in reply to Abdou above

[sinful pewter]

Ackchually
but her skills

[calm rose]

Damage Reduction?

[mint flint]

decisive research aka UR research ship

[soft raft]

oh damage reduction
Yeah that's not the first thing most of us think of when we hear the term DR here

[sinful pewter]

To be clear, i meant DR as in damage reduction in this context

sorry, influence of diffferent game

[inland shoal]

Dw, dr is somewhat commonly used here for damage red too

Just that DRs are talked about a lot more often

[jade mauve]

i always forget they're called DRs in-game, i just call them blueprint URs lol

[sinful pewter]

i call them PRs without regarding their rarity

[timid plover]

whats this?

[sinful pewter]

Akashi secret quest

[timid plover]

what does it give you?

[jade mauve]

gear if im not wrong? it's been a while

[quartz island]

Is San Diego augment good enough to warrant wearing the new super fast DD gun from gear lab?

[sinful pewter]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[viscid swift]

no, she still prefers 100 kai

[timid plover]

Thanks

[quartz island]

Ok

[half plover]

so I unlocked arbiter, can I fail this fight and will it be bad?

[inland shoal]

Yes No

You can only fail hard Arbiter realistically

[sinful pewter]

You can fail, but you can use all your 4 fleets and even then, spend AP or return later *if i am not mistaken

[half plover]

ooh so I will try now lmao

[jade ibex]

so after i'm done with all PR, you just spam Q research for gear?

[viscid swift]

pretty much

[elfin hollow]

I got plymouth what ship is next?

[viscid swift]

though PR7 is probably less than a month away at this point

[elfin hollow]

To research

[half plover]

arbiter is so hard lmao, after all my fleets attacked it has 76x bars left 😭

[warm flax]

Distribute gears for better results

[viscid swift]

if you already have a ship from each season and all the important ones to get early on

then it doesn't really matter

[half plover]

I got my best gear equipped already

[sinful pewter]

Use subs support, check arbi skills

[hollow gust]

thats like the easiest one

[sinful pewter]

Also, raise OPSI stats some more maybe

[half plover]

😭

I think I need to grind more

[topaz smelt]

you got 2 weeks to do it, come back later with better gear,ships,adapts

[hollow gust]

well whats your adapt

[half plover]

but I am almost capped

[sinful pewter]

I would say your research priorities would depend on what ships you have and at what stage in campaign you are in. Some would say Hindenburg\Shimanto\Kearsarge, some would offer Agir\Brest as an option

[warm flax]

What's the hardest?

[hollow gust]

to oneshot? prob one of the medium harbys

[sinful pewter]

Also, up to PR4 is obtainable through coins (research mats i meanm aside from Agir i think) so getting some of them is also an option

[half plover]

why is the research prio at pr4 tho if pr5 or 6 is harder to obtain?

[sinful pewter]

no, i'm using wrong terms again

I meant, you grind exp for most important ship, but if you have some PR4 and below, you can pay for their blueprints with coins

and most important probably will be from Agir and up to pr5-6 upwards

[half plover]

so basically after researching all ships in pr4 the next step is either 5 or 6?

[viscid swift]

it doesn't matter after a certain point because you won't have BPs for any of them

[sinful pewter]

no, more recent ships are better, its just you unlock them one by one, then farm their BPs, right?
So, if, lets say, you unlocked Kearsarge and farm her BPs you can now farm Hakuryu and get her BPs through coins every day

[viscid swift]

meaning there's no real point to unlocking them sooner

you can't coin Haku

[tired condor]

cant farm bps for pr5 or 6

[soft raft]

currently all of PR1-4 except for Haku and Agir is coinable

[half plover]

so the only way to get them is from events?

the dr/pr6 bps

[viscid swift]

no, your main source is the research academy

[jade ibex]

u focus pr5/6 on research

[inland shoal]

I mean general prints a main source is events yes, but those are a tiny part of what you get from research

[half plover]

oh I see

[soft raft]

more recent ships are better
Not exactly

sure new ships have come out, but PR4 is still a very strongly reccomended series since everyone there except Marco still sees lots of use on the reg

new seasons can be relatively underwhelming save for 1 or 2 stars like PR5 and PR6 have been recently

[jade ibex]

u can coin pr4 and then focus to get haku/agir

[warm flax]

marco for chkalov tech points

[sinful pewter]

Well true, i meant you get 1 set of BPs from research and coin 2nd set each day

and 2nd set from PR4 ships (i might have been wrong about haku coinable-ness) downwards, like FDG, for example

[whole crypt]

you can't "farm" prints for any series
the main source will always be research unless it's a "retired" series in which case you enhance by coin

[remote charm]

is world 15 going to be more AA?

[viscid swift]

yes, among other things

[soft raft]

W15 is basically if W13 and 14 had a baby

[warm flax]

Is it true that 15-3 is the hardest

[whole crypt]

13 hard and 14

[sinful pewter]

Too bad i can't check, but i really thought Haku is coinable, that was why i FS5 her while focusing on PR6

[whole crypt]

15-4's boss is harder but 15-3 has no ammo node

[sinful pewter]

but i might be wrong here again

[soft raft]

I've found 15-2 boss to be the most difficult so far since the bosses can just nuke your backline to smitherines

[whole crypt]

DR4 hasn't gotten coin enhance

[sweet delta]

15-4 is a lot harder than 15-3

[slow fox]

Wait till you see 2-1

[sweet delta]

2-1 is suboptimal

because 2-4 has more battle

[sinful pewter]

By the way, is commission farming really a thing?

[half plover]

farming what

[sweet delta]

What's a thing

[soft raft]

not really
or at least not anymore

[vale spindle]

na not really

[soft raft]

iirc that was tied to the 2-1 strat and then that died out quite a while ago

[half plover]

my ships are like lvl 19 from commissions only so

[topaz smelt]

was never a strat just cope

[viscid swift]

it was something for end game players with nothing else left to do

[inland shoal]

It was always just trading sanity for comm cope and nothing about that has changed

[little tree]

i farm oil from commisions

[whole crypt]

0 sanity memes are that way

[wispy pendant]

it also died years ago, just farm oil cap

[sinful pewter]

Which means you can pretty much farm 12-4 for coins and other stuff with pretty much same result?

[whole crypt]

it's not really about oil cap. ch2 cope

[topaz smelt]

it was for ppl with nothing better to do with their lives

[half plover]

yeah oil from commissions is better than the daily oil from the hq building lmao

[whole crypt]

the people who do it are running out of things to do anyway

yeh but commission oil and canteen regen are not exclusive, you get both and use both

[sinful pewter]

Soon... Is worth it vs. hindenburg?

[wispy pendant]

better to farm w12 or w13 for cogs... unless you are beyond needing cogs, then not sure why you even farm the game inbetween events anyway

[topaz smelt]

except the ppl who did them were the really dumb ones who got baited

often newbies

[sweet delta]

Worth what?

[sinful pewter]

Worth prioritizing instead of Hindenburg

[inland shoal]

Yesn't
Just farm w12 and actually progress instead of manually clicking forever and spending lots of oil and effort on the cope of some extra cubes or gems

[whole crypt]

like as a lategame player if you choose to ch2 cope that's one thing, but newbies reading it up and wasting time/oil with it is just bad

[tired condor]

whats the ch2 cope

[whole crypt]

if you're not a lategame player with nothing better to do just forget it

[inland shoal]

It's been explained enough here, just read the convo until here, moving on

[sinful pewter]

i believe ch2 cope is last resort for farming cubes hoping to proc cube-giving commissions when tight on budget\planning

[whole crypt]

you can believe what you want but it's just not worth it for anyone who's still in the middle of progression

[inland shoal]

I don't rly like trading for lower seasons, but depends on how far everything else is along ig

[viscid swift]

if you're gonna resort to Chapter 2 farming for cubes, you're literally better off working minimum wage and using the money you earn to buy gems to buy cubes

[tired condor]

if im in the middle of a hard fight and the day changes, does that count as an attempt for the next day

[sinful pewter]

but meh. anyway, what i meant about research, if i were to compare kearsarge and hindenburg while i have almost every UR\PR aside from Vanguard, i tried to compare whom should i try to obtain quicker

[viscid swift]

complete the one that's closer to dev 30 first so you can knock their face researches from the pool and finish the other faster

[whole crypt]

you're going to finish both, there's no difference in the end

[sweet delta]

Depends on your end game goals

[whole crypt]

I would say Hindenburg gets more "general" use than Kearsarge, but both are good if you bother to fit them

[sinful pewter]

I have what i think as solid options in both main fleet and vanguard, and i have shimanto maxed out, so i thought if i were to see two similar research tasks for one or another, whom should i prioritize

[half plover]

maybe go waifu first

[sinful pewter]

I have Kuu-chan

But i got the gist of it

[whole crypt]

it really doesn't matter, once you finish one the other comes faster, and you're not in a rush for either

[sinful pewter]

I want to finish at least one more after kearsarge is done before they might release another tier of research

[viscid swift]

they are in less than a month at this rate

we know PR7 is coming sometime in July

[half plover]

is this decent arbiter kill reward or average?

[viscid swift]

the rewards are fixed

[half plover]

oh I see

[sinful pewter]

And arbi is main source of rare mats for gear lab and good source of gold plates

[whole crypt]

for what it's worth Hindenburg took about half a month after I finished Kearsarge

[sinful pewter]

Did you use only coin research? Because i heard some people use cubes too

[whole crypt]

if you're almost done with 6 just finish it before moving on to 7 and never look back

[sweet delta]

for what it's worth I don't remember and don't care when I finished them, that's how little it matters

[sinful pewter]

Allow me to elaborate - aside from main drop, you get tokens and you buy petersburg shop for gear lab mats also

[whole crypt]

I only push cubes until first PR completes

[elfin hollow]

Im in stage 13 what ship should i get for your opinion

[left gull]

So do i turn off clearing mode if i wanna farm a stage or do i keep it on

[viscid swift]

keep it on

you literally loose oil cap if you turn clearing node off

[sweet delta]

and literally lose auto search

[whole crypt]

like in the long run the only reason you'd want to do more PR6 is hindenburg gun which will take longer than ships if you don't focus hard on gear

[wispy pendant]

i have a second hindenburg gun, and honestly, i don't notice the difference between using drake gun

[sinful pewter]

My advices are usually bad, so take mine with a grain of salt. It depends on what ships you have atm, but if Plymouth was your first researched ship, you have a lot of options. If you have Shinano from 200 pulls, you might try to go for Hakuryu. If you have York2, Kearsarge might fit nicely too. If you need good tank in vanguard - pick Agir\Brest. If you have difficulties with AA - look at Shimanto maybe (but in reality just max Sandy and give her item if you havent already). For vanguard DPS - select Hindenburg

Gear you get from research is also in consideration. Some people farmed PR4 research just to get extra tenrai bomber if i remember correctly (but that is usually done after maxing other ships)

[true kraken]

Good or no?

[whole crypt]

not with your resources

[sinful pewter]

Depends. With your cube count i would not

[true kraken]

Is it about 209 cubes?

[elfin hollow]

I have FDG azuma and all of PR4 unlocked i just wanta know what next ship i should research breast or ker

[worldly pewter]

do u have vanguard ?

[true kraken]

Guys, cube is never a problem to me, I can buy more

[whole crypt]

doesn't look like you're good on coins either, though th2t's farmable

[vagrant spoke]

Fellow whale

[elfin hollow]

Or hindengberg

[whole crypt]

if you choose to whale for cubes that's your choice, we don't recommend it

I haven't bought cubes for years

[viscid swift]

start working on a PR1, 2 and 3 PR to use them to burn catchup to Prototype cores

[sinful pewter]

I have FDG azuma and all of PR4

[worldly pewter]

that is the best research for ship develepment so go ahead

[whole crypt]

it saves you like maybe a day or 2 at best, if I take a 0.5 hr brest research it's not for brest

[atomic abyss]

It is one of the Brest investments for cubes if you have a lot tho

[worldly pewter]

[viscid swift]

booo

[elfin hollow]

Can i start with PR 3 so that I can get the ap french gun?

[viscid swift]

it doesn't matter which you start with particularly

[forest palm]

no, that'd be just bad for business, you can literally protocore for a 406/50

[viscid swift]

and you're not changing research focus anyway

[forest palm]

what you focus research on, and develop are two completely different things

[hollow gust]

Cubes researches are almost never a good deal , it's all about speed

[atomic abyss]

Soul forming is pretty good bang for your buck imo

[hollow gust]

You save 1/2 - 1 tops when full cubing

[whole crypt]

cubing stops being efficient once you realize the money is in the gear, I just push it early in series for chips

[viscid swift]

same

[hollow gust]

i do it to flex, for normal players cubing is such a scam

[south sequoia]

Where does Izumo place in terms of SSR BBs now?

[worldly pewter]

i hard pity ur banners and cube dr that is how we catch up as new plebs

[sinful pewter]

I am simple man, i see UR research, i look at cubes and at ship in question. If maxing is soon, i push it to be done sooner

[viscid swift]

towards if not at at the top

[south sequoia]

Izumo at the top huh, I thought I'd never see the day.

[viscid swift]

I never thought I'd see a good augment module again

[whole crypt]

I just 125'd her on the spot because VA

[soft raft]

Uh you are Not supposed to cube resarch spam as a newbie but sure ok

[whole crypt]

0.5hr face is good for gear, I'll give it that

[viscid swift]

cubing for DRs is literally the opposite of efficient

[whole crypt]

stigma and a couple other folks probably have more but I'm on 7 q152s and 3 hindenburg guns now

and it's not like I didn't end up with enough excess for FS in that process

[sinful pewter]

ever since i quit at the start of PR2 and returnted at the start of around PR5, i have a lot of stuff to catch up, and given the window of time and reasonable spending of cubes, i won't have a chance to get some extra PR gear in near future, it seems

[viscid swift]

you will, it'll just take a bit of time

[whole crypt]

priorities, older series you can hold for catchup and coining

[sinful pewter]

I got the ships, i don't have enough time to farm for rare research gear 😦

[silver lintel]

Pr7 is coming and im still at d25 for pr6 copium

Also which one is the budget fighter for support fleet in w15

[sinful pewter]

correct me if im wrong, but flapjack\hellcat

[viscid swift]

Skyrockets and Fw-190 A5s

[sinful pewter]

This ones? o_O

[viscid swift]

yes

[sinful pewter]

Before i start thinking too much - flapjacks and tigercats are not cutting it because their comparatively weak interception\AA capability? What you need in W15 is fighter with high AA capability?

[hollow gust]

Flapjack is literally the best pick

[viscid swift]

fighters in the support do no damage regardless of what you put so all that matters is their AA capability

[silver lintel]

Any of the purple is fine? Or fw190 better

[atomic abyss]

Wait

[viscid swift]

both work, I'd go with like a 50/50 split

[sharp socket]

should i replace my seafangs with bf-109 planes

[silver lintel]

I only have 5 flaps and 1 tigercat

[atomic abyss]

Those actually had AA guns?

[eager mulch]

what else would they have

[viscid swift]

contextually dependent

[sinful pewter]

So basically, for W15 support you choose fighters with a lot of guns instead of guns+bombs?

[atomic abyss]

For some reason
I thought they had nothing

[viscid swift]

good AA yes

[eager mulch]

so just, useless?

[atomic abyss]

Or at least, worse than the me155s

I don't remember their AA being good at least
Useless outside pure speed was my understanding
Oh well

[silver lintel]

Also feather > steam catapult?

[eager mulch]

they were the original AA meme, they just had zero surface damage is why they were the “meme”

[viscid swift]

for Painleve in W15 probably, otherwise not really no

[silver lintel]

I thought eva is better than some hp

[viscid swift]

you're trading off AVI for said evasion

[silver lintel]

Huh feather has less avi than catapult?

[viscid swift]

yes, 90 vs 100 at +10

[sinful pewter]

I thought frontier medal is worth something in comparison to catapult, but i guess i'm wrong here

[calm rose]

Medal has the same avi as cata

[viscid swift]

it's just a catapult with slightly less HP

[atomic abyss]

Btw is it just me
Or do w13 bosses require significantly more AA than the mob fleet...

[viscid swift]

well...

[calm rose]

Isn't it only 13-4 boss? The taihou one?

[eager mulch]

boomer experiences W13 for the first time

[atomic abyss]

It reminds me of pre nerf/ACV w12 more than anything

[calm rose]

Haven't do w13 in forever

[viscid swift]

just wait till you do W14

[atomic abyss]

I mean

[rich valve]

wait wtf izumo aug removed her received burn thing

[atomic abyss]

In the first run I suffered cos I forgot to switch out the rockets

[viscid swift]

among many other things yes

[whole crypt]

and that is a problem because?

[rich valve]

no it's great, it was dumb in the first place

[atomic abyss]

Blame wows

[viscid swift]

I too love HE spam /s

[eager mulch]

I’m on the giving side of HE spam

[whole crypt]

it's a meme and not even that seriously detrimental

[atomic abyss]

Well back to clearing w13 then
Byeeee

[eager mulch]

just got kuznetsov and I’m putting him on my Nevsky to be even more toxic

[atomic abyss]

In theory I should be able to clear the entire chap 13 by reset
Assuming I just don't get lazy

Does Taihou truly need a copious amount of AA tho?

[viscid swift]

I would run an AA carry to be safe

[eager mulch]

you can just kill her faster tbh

[atomic abyss]

I'm already running 2 AA carries

[calm rose]

Shouldn't be a problem then

[eager mulch]

isn’t taihou the one who carpet bombs you

[viscid swift]

yes

[atomic abyss]

She does that no matter which side you're on

[viscid swift]

Thunderer and St. Vincent don't need special commanders to be toxic

[rich valve]

are the 3 DDGs interchangeable or is each one useful in different fleets/scenarios?

[viscid swift]

Tai Yuan is the strongest of 3 the in a full fleet and assuming you aren't making uber use of Chang Chun's buffs

[eager mulch]

youre right, I should put range mod on my nevsky

all the ddgs are pretty interchangeable

[strong tartan]

bonfire izumo

[versed elk]

so is sandy good yet

(i havent looked at the aug at all )

[viscid swift]

yes

[topaz smelt]

mgm4

[atomic abyss]

She has somehow become even more noticeably stronger....

[vale spindle]

we love mgm here

[versed elk]

that is very good to hear

[viscid swift]

Izumo also became somewhat relevant somehow, only took 6 years

[versed elk]

barrage proc buff?

[atomic abyss]

Barrage proc buff
Decreased spread
Increase crit

[desert tapir]

I got distracted by the event and forgot
Who should I be focusing?

[viscid swift]

proc buff, crit rate buff, spread reduction on her main gun, damage buff

[versed elk]

i guess i gotta test both of them out then

[slow prism]

Of these? Harbin, Yat Sen, An Shan, Chang Chun, and Tai Yuan are good.

Yat Sen, and one of any of the three aforementioned DDGs. I went with Tai Yuan after her retrofit was released.

[viscid swift]

they're all FP tech so just level them all

[agile sky]

what the priority of mlb for UR ships? Like if i have 4 UR bulins rn, who would be the top 3 options for me to use them on rn?

[viscid swift]

well what do you have

[sinful pewter]

Depends on what UR you have

[gray sphinx]

how much do you lose out on if you can't beat the hard difficulty of arbiter in opsi?

[rocky fjord]

not that much

less rewards for hard arbiter than normal

[gray sphinx]

you don't get any UR prints from clearing hard difficulty do you?

[viscid swift]

no

[eternal moth]

So um... is Sandy busted now, or does her barrage not add much damage?

[soft raft]

her new barrage basically is a extra MGM

[viscid swift]

MGM+2 since it procs every time her main gun fires

[tired condor]

i just realized opsi had dailies

[eternal moth]

So that's a yes?

[viscid swift]

she's a lot better yes

[eternal moth]

MGM+3 Sandy

[rich valve]

was sandy weak or sth? +3MGM is crazy, who is her DPS comparable to now?

[eternal moth]

She was still fairly decent before.

[forest palm]

primarily focus An, Chang, Fu, Tai for FP, after that Yat, Ying, Chao, Ping, Ning, Chi and lastly Fei, Hu, Lung these are all ships with good to somewhat decent vanguard tech anything not listed is upto you if you like them enough

[rocky fjord]

sandy was still a top w15 choice beforehand

[light trail]

so is this like a lot of balance changes with all the augments

[forest palm]

augments can be hit or miss

[south sequoia]

In a way

[viscid swift]

implying this game was ever balanced to begin with

[light trail]

how many of them look very good right away

[forest palm]

like 5-ish

[light trail]

i didnt say properly balanced

[light trail]

oh nice, which ones

[late flame]

dev just throw darts on whose augment to do

[light trail]

lmfao true

[warm flax]

Is this the first PR aug

[light trail]

oh wow SD becomes more AA machine

[soft raft]

Hood, Taihou, Kawakaze, and now Sandy's are the real big ones
Izumo's is pretty good too but she's a research ship so she'd take longer to raise

[eternal moth]

First PR and first rainbow aug

[forest palm]

you can't list Taihou, and give that crap reason for Izumo

[warm flax]

It's a rainbow what

[rocky fjord]

the only real gate is the IJN ship count req yes?

[eternal moth]

Sandy is a rainbow ship after retro

[warm flax]

How much does it cost

[rocky fjord]

imagine coining monarch and sanrui under these conditions
roon passable

[warm flax]

Oh I though Izumo's Aug is

[eternal moth]

The aug itself isn't rainbow, the ship is

[soft raft]

he meant rainbow as in a aug for a UR
Sandy aug is still typical gold

[slim hinge]

When does the META shop replenish its META crystals?

[rocky fjord]

it wont

[warm flax]

Bulin

[wispy pendant]

Rainbow aug

[soft raft]

You're not meant to get more than the META ship's 4 crystals

[forest palm]

Shangra La Augment was also good

[rocky fjord]

SRL was really lowkey, since it's just another gold CV
but her's is nice

[forest palm]

Wales was also an improvement upon the ship, but Hull Type saturation is a bitch

[rocky fjord]

guess Izumo just nyoomed back to T0

[forest palm]

easily one of the best SSR BBs in the game currently

[viscid swift]

yep

she's up there with Owari and Flandre now

[slim hinge]

Which META ships? The META crystal appeared twice in the shop.

[warm flax]

Would you recommend her to newbies now

[sinful pewter]

w8, owari?

[viscid swift]

Izumo?

[warm flax]

Yes

[viscid swift]

hmmm
probably actually

[gray sphinx]

isn't that a little too much work compared to other options you could grab instead of her?

[viscid swift]

though she'll take over a month to get ready among other things

[warm flax]

Well Hood is more than enough ig

[soft raft]

currently we have no idea how they're gonna do the cruise pass ones but they'll most likely be added there at one point

Event shop METAs (like those are the two you see there) have their crystals added there after their event ends

And Showdown METAs have their crystals avaliable again on their points track when they get added to dossier

[rocky fjord]

protocore is really saturated yes? how many seasons of catchup need to be scrapped now

[gray sphinx]

yea I was thinking if you're a new player you might as well go for hood and eventually build up enough teams with ships by constructing

[viscid swift]

if you wanna buy all the rainbow 3 seasons worth of PRs and 2 DRs on top of the CDPs from the PR missions

[rocky fjord]

so excluding 457 drake gun, that's not that much

[viscid swift]

though that may or may not also be accounting for Hindenburg gun being in the prototype shop

[elfin hollow]

How to get more iris libre ships

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#ffnf

[slim hinge]

I see. So there's no means of limit breaking Bearn META outside her META crystals in the event shop?

[soft raft]

her crystals will be added to the META shop soon
iirc when the event shop itself goes away

[slim hinge]

Ok thanks. I was thinking if I should just get her META crystals from the event shop or wait until the META crystals reappear in the META shop.

[soft raft]

Get them from the event shop

[viscid swift]

I would just get them from the event shop assuming you don't have anything more pressing to get

[light trail]

why are common ships getting unique augments

[soft raft]

idk go ask the devs

[forest palm]

gotta fill out the junk bin

realistically they are improvements to the ship, but they're so minor in scope that unless you like the ship why bother

[rocky fjord]

yeah, and releasing augs precisely because people like ships is alright

[elfin hollow]

I dont meed tech points more like I need ships for vanguard

[warm flax]

The guide has vanguards on it

[sharp socket]

do the devs add new ships in preparation for content that needs them in the future or just add whatever they feel like making

[forest palm]

we also just had Brennus

[viscid swift]

who knows, ask them

[sharp socket]

how often do the devs add stuff that is horrendously difficult without the right charas to do them

actually are any of the difficult content worth any rewards

like challenge mode

[rocky fjord]

CM is just cosmetics

[warm flax]

Not rewarding, more like a trophy

[sharp socket]

does the game actually have nothing to do in endgame except w14 and 15

[topaz smelt]

the end game is just clicking skins

[undone plover]

hard arbiter
CM monthly challenges
META fights
these are some of the end game content

[viscid swift]

end game is just leveling ships to 120 and flexing on poor/new people

[forest palm]

flexing on the poor is the fun part

[woven rain]

[sharp socket]

how the heck has the game lived for 7 years like this its incredible

[stark quiver]

new events and ships

[rocky fjord]

sounds like #al-general

[forest palm]

the content itself is engaging enough, it's a matter of choice on what you do

[viscid swift]

to quote intern kun "we have so many degenerates, it's amazing"

[vale spindle]

Skins be skinning

[eager mulch]

skins make me unwise

[noble tulip]

What are thoughts on Mogador now that she’s been out for a while

[south sequoia]

Top DPS ship

[topaz smelt]

low util

[south sequoia]

Unlikely to survive in very long fights

[noble tulip]

Is she basically hinden-lite

[sinful pewter]

I think excercise niche

[golden moth]

Is the rerun of emden event..sign of a vanny event next or nope

[forest palm]

chronologically Vanny was after

when that rerun will be who knows

[neon finch]

question.... how hard is the siren dungen

[frank pulsar]

what siren dungeon? the stronghold?

those are pretty easy provided you have decent fleet and enough adaptability

[neon finch]

stronghold i mean mb

[neon finch]

like my fleet 1 is lv125 all maxed 1 ur 4 sr with 1 elite all decent gear

[topaz smelt]

that tells us nothing

[light trail]

graf zep augment good?

[frank pulsar]

rarity doesnt mean anything

[neon finch]

yea but ii think some ur gear would carry me but ... no

[topaz smelt]

a lot of ur gear sucks

[neon finch]

ummmmm

[frank pulsar]

why dont you take a screenshot of the fleet composition

[neon finch]

alr

ima make a fork?

siren stronghold

[terse moss]

Can someone recommend a good gear setup for haku, shinano and implacable?

[ivory crown]

what do the map coordinates in opsi do

[south sequoia]

https://renhex.github.io/alft/188

[eager mulch]

is that the 6 ryuusei fleet one

[south sequoia]

This lists a lot of gear set ups across all armors for shin hak implac, however this is only account for no oaths or all oaths, if one of them is oathed without the others it will mess up timing and you may have to figure it out for yourself.

[eternal moth]

I ended up with 6 extra copies of Alsace while trying to get Fleuret. What would you guys do with them: retire, or just make a second copy for fun/messing around with?

[viscid swift]

I just keep the dupes for flexing

[south sequoia]

Map coordinates are extra fights on a section of the map for extra rewards

It can just be a regular siren node where you don't have to fight any major bosses, those are under a yellow treasure chest icon floating above the section
However if there is a red devil icon above it, there is a hard boss fight in it that can give good rewards

[elfin hollow]

TL;DR for the new augs?

[viscid swift]

Izumo and Sandy got sizable buffs
Le Malin's aug is meh
Spence and Jamaica got augs?

[late flame]

TL;DR : sandy + izumo

[ivory crown]

do i have to deliberately look for them in the map or do they just pop up

[south sequoia]

They just pop up, if you click on it in the inventory and press it from there the game can automatically take you there

[ivory crown]

i see ty

[dense epoch]

is the best use of gems as a beginner is to upgrade the dorm for more room for morale or is there something better?

[south sequoia]

This maybe a long read, but
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KVOhAOz9wwZK0gQON0PLJrDkPEp6vg66Fh8U2LoYG4/edit

[dawn pasture]

so why did sandy get a

[viscid swift]

ask the devs

[south sequoia]

an augment? ask the devs

[sweet delta]

🅰️

[gray sphinx]

they just love sandy ig

[true kraken]

What do I get when retire UR ship

[atomic abyss]

30 medals iirc

And some spec core that counts towards your monthly quota iirc

[eager mulch]

and some coins

[elfin hollow]

Hey guys, is this plane worth buying?

[hollow gust]

Isn't that the worst wyvern

[sweet delta]

worse not worst

[hollow gust]

Never knew that was in shop , gonna grab myself one

[sweet delta]

It's been in shop for almost a whole day already

[soft raft]

It's not half bad but at the same time it's relatively low prio overall

[hollow gust]

That's why , didn't read the patch notes

[sweet delta]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[elfin hollow]

I see

[sweet delta]

It would go in the Low Priority column somewhere

[rapid grail]

what's the link to the AL survey?

[elfin hollow]

Ok thanks for the advice fellas

[calm rose]

Do yall grind for cvl reload tech?

[sweet delta]

No because there's no more for me

[wild sinew]

Wichimeta is light armor in her fight?

[calm rose]

So it's a yes

[sweet delta]

It's more useful than BC eva for sure

[elfin hollow]

Alr I recently got AVP dev30 what ships should i replace for avp

[modest moat]

is wichita meta light armored?

[remote yarrow]

Nobody, get her to Fs5 and then replace her for Ark Royal

[tidal meteor]

So triple UR BBs with triple 406mm Mk 7/twin 410mm kai for Musashi, or YTII-Kearsarge-AvP/Implacable for the Lvl 15 WichiMETA fight?

(Or is it for now?)

[south sequoia]

Ask again in 2 weeks

We need to settle in for lvl 15, then another week to test comps and ships

[elfin hollow]

What gun works best with vanguard

[eager mulch]

normally you can get by just running the same gun