gameplay-help

[sinful pewter]

perhaps one day they would add some game mode with ship type\faction restriction

[forest palm]

didn't an augment for one of the C Class turn out pretty beneficial for the ship

[whole crypt]

Sandy I'm really not exactly sure what they'll do with her, but CL augs are kind of meh so anything might be nice

isn't Comet the only C class with an augment

Comet's Comet gives her a barrage eh

and the barrage looks unsurprisingly shit

[hard mesa]

kinda wish for unique aug effect instead of just slash attack

[late pike]

guys

is it ok to not have a dd in vanguard, pr ship expgrind

[plain saffron]

yes

[late pike]

ok

[sinful pewter]

I would say that unless the boss is a submarine, its fine to go without DD if there is no DD-locked slot

and probably even then as ASW gear does not seem to deal much dmg

[icy mountain]

are the d-stages in divergent chessboard oil-capped?

[plain saffron]

yes

[late pike]

should i buy F2?

[twilit dew]

Just got another copy of alsace and have 5 ur bulin, what would be my next mlb ? or should i wait ? (i spent all my luck in this event, i dont think i will be getting another ur soon lol)

[late pike]

dorm floor 2?

[sinful pewter]

I would say Guam i think after Alsace

[loud rover]

Laff2 or Guam after Alsace imo

[whole crypt]

are you still pulling for other banner ships, because if you're not you really should stop pulling the event banner

[pine sapphire]

Yo chat

[twilit dew]

i was pulling to get brennus, was the only missing one from the event and got her and another copy of alsace, so i think im stopping now lol

[pine sapphire]

Colorado or West Virginia?
Both retrofit ver

[late pike]

. . .

[twilit dew]

yes, totally worth it

[exotic wren]

Imo West Virginia got better utility at the very least

[whole crypt]

dorm 2nd floor + 3 base slots is the cheapest way to fit 6 ships in dorm for grinding

[eternal basalt]

Do you got Vanguard yet?

[late pike]

ohh

i got 3 slots so floor 2 then

[pine sapphire]

So should I go for West Virginia?

[twilit dew]

Current fleet atm

[eternal basalt]

I mean the ship Vanguard

[twilit dew]

no lol

[late pike]

neat my mob fleet is in dorm now

[twilit dew]

having the extra morale of the 2nd floor really helps with the xp

[late pike]

bro flexin

[eternal basalt]

Should be rerun early next month... after new event, so...

[tight sandal]

first time attempting 10-1/chapter 10, what do you guys think the fleet composition I can use to save oil while clearing 10-1?

[twilit dew]

will mlb alsace and wait then, would pray for a miracle haha

[plain saffron]

but when is new event

18 to 25 most likely the time frame for rondo

[eternal basalt]

Prob 27th

[icy mountain]

arent oil-capped stages supposed to cost like 800 oil pero 3 runs or something

[keen sable]

use full fleets. if enemy slaughtered in less than 30 seconds, remove a ship

[icy mountain]

why does mine cost 900+ per 3 runs in d-stages

[vagrant harness]

So happy i finally 30 brest and plymouthh

[plain saffron]

did you 100% it yet
or did you click continue after you 100% it

[eternal basalt]

Rondo is 20-26

[plain saffron]

my bad i read T(eusday) as T(hursday)

[icy mountain]

i cleared it already

[vagrant harness]

any speculation what the next rerun will be?

[plain saffron]

because if you click continue after you just 100% it it continue run without clearing mode

[keen sable]

speculation goes in #al-general

[eternal basalt]

Rondo

Isn't speculation, patchnotes

[plain saffron]

i don't remember if that WA have more enemy or something tbh, you can always check if the stage have oilcap in fleet selection screen

[plain saffron]

4

[icy mountain]

its not oilcapped ig

[keen sable]

because 4 > 3

[silk helm]

so when ppl say to farm DC, is that just doing stage d3?

[plain saffron]

<strong>4</strong>

[noble wyvern]

should i use tekamaru and bishamaru?

[keen sable]

any cat is better than no cat

gold cat better than lesser cat

[noble wyvern]

i alr am using a cat rn

this-

(soo should i change?)

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Opposite-Colored_Rerun#Hard_Maps

[noble wyvern]

?

[icy mountain]

thanks for the clarification

[plain saffron]

(10 + (35 * 5 + 47)) * 4 = 928

[slender heart]

Check their talents.
Also, https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[sinful pewter]

Did i miss something, how can you auto-repeat a stage 4 times o_O

[plain saffron]

WA

[sinful pewter]

sorry, what is WA

[plain saffron]

war archives

[sinful pewter]

aaah

[noble wyvern]

should i use some cats depends on what class i am using rn?

[keen sable]

Technically no, but I assume you meant D4 so yes, everyone except Eugen is on D4.

[plain saffron]

you make a cat for specific thing, not change a cat for your current thing

[silk helm]

ohhh okay i haven't gotten that far. its on my to do list cuz i need the fleet points :c

[slender heart]

Talents is your number one priority, find one with good talents

[silk helm]

so basically just farm d4 for the ships?

[noble wyvern]

what if the talents doesnt match with some class in my team?

[keen sable]

yes

[silk helm]

thanks UniqueName, apprecite you

[turbid dawn]

Do we know the drop rate of Cog chips? I've done 3 lots of 14-1 11 times over the past couple of days and never seen any from the reward list. I got told it was a good place to get them

[slender heart]

Focus on your damage dealer/backline

[noble wyvern]

i dont know which is the dmg dealer-

about the backline,do i have to choose the one that support me the most or?

[plain saffron]

it's still rng but each drop have higher value, and in average w14 is higher drops

[plain saffron]

1st rule, don't make a mixed cat

you make a BB cat, CV cat etc

[keen sable]

higher than 3%

[noble wyvern]

?

[plain saffron]

don't make a cat with AVI talent + FP talent + trp talent

focus on a thing

[keen sable]

rule #1 two gold cats for ops

[noble wyvern]

why is it not allowed to make a cat with avi,fp,trp talent?

[turbid dawn]

Well, does it get higher at 14-4 or does all of W14 share the same drop rate? Because honestly it's kinda seemed to have been a waste so far

[noble wyvern]

whats ops?

[plain saffron]

well you can, it's just not as good

idk if this is for min max or just started so i assume minmax/get good cats

[eternal basalt]

catnodes

[keen sable]

operation siren

[noble wyvern]

oh ok

[plain saffron]

op siren have cat nodes
drops better when higher rarity and level

so put lvl30 gold cats on mob fleet for max drops

now i gonna assume just started instead

[noble wyvern]

i see,i havent touch the operation siren tho

[plain saffron]

just use any gold cats, raise until 30, don't do rerolling

[undone plover]

The charts for 12, 13, 14 all have same rates for the different stages within a chapter.
Most people farm x-1 for cog efficiency.
But tbh I am also curious how that data was gathered.

[plain saffron]

screenshot + calculate

• spreadsheet gaming

unique please speak like a normal person

[undone plover]

I meant more like how reliable it is/was not the actual methodology

[steady beacon]

Probably the same way you keep your resource records Faer
Just recording as you go

[eternal basalt]

Not very much

[vagrant harness]

Link to patchnotes?

[keen sable]

it's fine up to 13

[plain saffron]

step 1, get a lot of people
step 2, realise nobody want to do it

[steady beacon]

Ye that's fair
Nobody wants to collect the data
Just want to profit from it

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.jp/news-item.html?i=1370

[noble wyvern]

is it worth it to do op siren?

[plain saffron]

very

[keen sable]

i do the calculate part and the spreadsheet part. did i miss something? 🏃

[noble wyvern]

oh i see,bc i havent touch it yet maybye ill try it?

[worldly pewter]

2 weeks

[plain saffron]

tbh i don't understand your reaction unless you mean what i'm thinking rn

[eternal basalt]

2 weeks what?

[keen sable]

I forgo the screenshot part so now all my results are invalid

[plain saffron]

smh my head, now nobody gonna trust you

[keen sable]

dw everyone will trust when i green name

[worldly pewter]

this

[eternal basalt]

That's why he's purple, not green

[plain saffron]

only green name is trustable nowadays

[eternal basalt]

Cleveland's skin event???

[steady beacon]

The real question is: was there ever a time when non-green names could be trusted?

[eternal basalt]

Was there ever a time when green names could be trusted?

[worldly pewter]

where is the part of the patch that mentioned the next rerun ? or am i blind

[eternal basalt]

Next patch

[hard mesa]

[novel condor]

~~When sam was green prob ~~

[eternal basalt]

The following will be updated during the next maintenance.

・The limited-time ocean area event "Reciting the Lapis Lazuli Music" is back!
・Rerun of limited-time construction
・Reissue sale of costumes```

[small fern]

What to do if I don't get missions in opsi

[plain saffron]

Logout, wait, login

[slender heart]

Starfarming

[steady beacon]

"Reciting the Lapis Lazuli Music"

[knotty dome]

what is the behaviour of auto on 15-3 and 15-4? will the boss fleet fight every boss?

[undone plover]

is that emden event?

[steady beacon]

Ye

[knotty dome]

thanks

[cobalt rapids]

np

[steady beacon]

I double checked and the translation of the JP is actually about as correct as you can expect
They really do have a different name for it than us, basically

[eternal basalt]

Every event really

[spice phoenix]

is it worth to pull for that event rerun?

[tame jungle]

only for collection

[undone plover]

u get around 30 free pull tickets
worth beyond that is subjective

[eternal basalt]

If uou need KMS tech

[tame jungle]

but you'll probs get tickets for it anyway so just save if you're not rich when it comes to cubes

[spice phoenix]

light construction it is

[eternal basalt]

Use tickets, save a cube (or 3 tickets, get some currency)

[undone plover]

emden is the best ship in that event right?

[cobalt rapids]

yes || shes +2 cl fp ||

[spice phoenix]

anyone in these rosters worth investing in? (any partial LBs were dupes)

[cobalt rapids]

owari > hood/howe if u need bbs
volga
jda for late campaign
subs as needed
fc if u need tanks

[spice phoenix]

thanks

[tame jungle]

avrora also pretty good

[spice phoenix]

aren’t her stats kinda bad?

[tame jungle]

35% damage buff

[spice phoenix]

thats fair

[forest palm]

from left to right...FP, EVA, EVA, FP, FP, FP
so majority of ships are good for 120 tech, overall the SSRs are solid enough nothing crazy

[keen sable]

do everything else (the other 99%)

actually are you new? you need to finish story for daily missions.

[main latch]

Who should i get Nj or Shinano ?

[small fern]

I'm new yeah

[viscid swift]

Shinano

[keen sable]

If you can't find the list of missions at all (ie the story missions) look here

[tacit olive]

Hello guys im quite new to op.siren, i bought this thing cause i need it for an equipment, but it only lets me buy one, how can i get more? Do i need to wait for next month or does the op.siren shop updates sometime soon?

Any help will be apreciated

[plain saffron]

next month, also you can craft gold to UR

[undone plover]

at a bad ratio of 8:1 which is not recommended since a lot of good gear uses the gold version

[tacit olive]

Gold to UR? What do yoy mean? Pardon my ignorance

[undone plover]

are HE CB guns a thing?

[plain saffron]

azuma gun

and brest also? i don't remember

[eternal basalt]

Only Azuma

[forest palm]

it's only the Triple 310

ah cringe Quad 330 is AP

[tacit olive]

Aah i see, thank you

[novel condor]

Wai wat since when?

[plain saffron]

few hours after it was added and goes live in CN

[eternal basalt]

When FdG's gun was added to the lab

[undone plover]

so is the azuma gun used anywhere on CBs?

[plain saffron]

pre fs5 azuma

[sharp socket]

can i do abyssal node yet

[wind hazel]

depends on your fleet

[twilit dew]

For boss fleet, currently for my main tank i have eugen, just unlocked roon and chesire, i have enough blueprints to max until fate, which one is better ? or should i keep eugen ?

[sharp socket]

i expect to kill in 4 hits

[eternal basalt]

Don't use Eugen

[plain saffron]

depends on boss skills

[steady beacon]

Anti-light bosses occasionally
A lot of people still prefer AP on Agir for the DMG RED though (also maintains better armour break uptime in principle, since Azuma gun is slow)

[sharp socket]

im just going to send it

[kind slate]

for my BB fleet, alsace keeps shooting her salvo slightly before helena's skill. do i equip her with sg radar?

[plain saffron]

it's doable even though your fleet not that optimized

[sharp token]

i did mine with 90 of those stats and had to repeat it 3 times

[undone plover]

if u have triple gun + radar on BB u should have radar on helena.
twin gun will be hard to sync to helena

[kind slate]

so i would use radar when im using triple champy gun?

[undone plover]

If u use champy + radar (HPFCR) on BB then u would use helena with sg radar
If champy + no radar then no need for sg radar on helena

I meant triple barreled gun since they usually have ~20 sec cooldowns sync well with helena but twin barreled guns usually have 18 second cooldowns and are hard to sync to helena
Ofc some exceptions exist

[sharp socket]

i whacked 50 bars off with my first fleet and another 40 with my second fleet, this is really easy

regroup and rest and its done

couldve optimised a little by putting washing machine on helena and so i dont even need to regroup and rest but i was lazy

[undone plover]

Abyssals (and opsi tbh) in general is about proper gear and fleet setup and mainly enough levels (~120)
U can probably do most if not all of opsi with decent ships

[subtle urchin]

follow my heart or should i guarantee one of them?

[sharp socket]

probably in pin

[undone plover]

Do sub fleets get the full ammo bonus?

[slender heart]

I don't think so because they have their own ammo aren't they?

[atomic abyss]

They do not

[worldly pewter]

c6 abyssal ?

[atomic abyss]

The pins have a good guide on what's recommended

[noble wyvern]

should i modernize Z23 rn? (i have the material to do it)

[jaunty vault]

if you wanna

[novel condor]

Up to u

[noble wyvern]

is it worth it right or?

[viscid swift]

have you retroed a starter already

[jaunty vault]

worth is subjective

[noble wyvern]

Z23 is my starter

[viscid swift]

then yes

[jaunty vault]

it does add to collection % and considerably improves her performance

[noble wyvern]

ok

[viscid swift]

also there's 3 starters you can choose from

any one of which works for the rookie missions

[noble wyvern]

finnaly got this after 2 month? (kinda forgot since i just return from vacation and stuff)

[noble wyvern]

yeah the rookie mission takes soo long

can anyone help me with this? (i may or may not reach the max- is not from email tho)

[slender heart]

Use it

[noble wyvern]

on what tho

[slender heart]

Sortie

[noble wyvern]

ok then.

[loud rover]

Is it better to combine blue and purple skill books into gold?

[atomic abyss]

You can't

[worldly pewter]

u said just above the issue then u showed the origin of it

[whole crypt]

you can combine purple into gold for books but you lose XP in the process

[loud rover]

Guess I won’t if I’m losing xp

[whole crypt]

gold books are better XP/hr but if you're still short on books I won't recommend it

[noble wyvern]

which is which?-

[worldly pewter]

not playing enough

[noble wyvern]

i just came back after some stuff yk.

[worldly pewter]

then u can't judge whether the rookie mission is long or not

[inland shoal]

Pls no gifs here

(Unless it's a barrage gif or similar)

[noble wyvern]

ok then

[noble wyvern]

havent done that before

[hallow iron]

When I'm lazy to sortie I usually change a bit to dorm snack so that I won't waste full oil

[noble wyvern]

i see.

also should i just keep sortie-ing on 1-1 event stage

[wind hazel]

just do a set of sortie at the highest stage with HELP

damn it's actually HECLP

[noble wyvern]

wdym "with HELP"? (remembers about a guy saying "HELP,HELP ME" intensifies)

[wind hazel]

this thing

[noble wyvern]

whats HECLP-

[noble wyvern]

oh that one what does it do? (1436?- )

[wind hazel]

it basically doubles your sortie

[soft raft]

there's no reason to 1:1 on D maps
and honestly if you arent on D Maps, then I doubt you're in a position to easily 1:1

[wind hazel]

a set of triple sortie will become 6 sortie

[noble wyvern]

should i keep doing this with the HECLP? @wind hazel

[soft raft]

Think of it as doing 2 runs at once

[wind hazel]

go to the highest you can do

[subtle urchin]

thx

[noble wyvern]

uh ok

[soft raft]

only use the HELP plans if you lack time to grind

[noble wyvern]

i always lack time to grind

[tight sandal]

currently have Neptune/Roon and Agir only unlocked and not one of them are not yet Dev Lvl 30 yet. right now I'm doing catch-up on Anchorage but I found out PR4 ships except Agir/Hakuryuu can be coined already. found out about protocore min-maxing too. already completed catch-up of Agir but do I stop Anchorage's catch-up? (I can't also unlock her right away cuz I'm like 320 eagle union tech points short

just badly want the best gear currently tbh (currently focusing on PR4 research)

[viscid swift]

no

it's worth burning PR4 catchup to finish Anchorage in record time

[sacred iris]

Is unlocking second floor in dorm room worth it?

[wind hazel]

if you're active player, yes

[soft raft]

yes if you grind alot
2nd floor dorm + 3 dorm slots on 1st floor is enough to put a whole fleet in

[sacred iris]

A no then

[tight sandal]

is it because I should dev lvl 30 Anchorage as soon as I unlock her so her prints can be excluded in PR4 research? or is it because Anchorage is that good?

[wind hazel]

because anchorage is that good

[viscid swift]

Anchorage is that good, you won't knock her prints from the pool until she's FS5 anyway

[dull solstice]

for fighter planes?

[viscid swift]

Flapjack

[dull solstice]

why flapjack? I see almost same stats with the two

[viscid swift]

Flapjack has better AA

[tight sandal]

aightt thanks!!

[sinful elk]

Chat is there any BBs here worth raising

[viscid swift]

Howe maybe

[atomic abyss]

Richelieu

[sage sluice]

Howe is good. rich is ok but kinda powercrept

[dull solstice]

ok thanks

[sinful elk]

Hmm alright but for w13 and w14 should i invest in illutrious too my aa is honest suck

[atomic abyss]

Illustrious only really sees use as a member of the support fleet in w15

[undone plover]

independence and unicorn are enough up to ch14
lusty good for 15 support fleet

[atomic abyss]

Which is honestly not gonna be done for at least a year

[sinful elk]

Then is there any cvs here worth invest in

[soft raft]

illustrious for W15 support fleet

[atomic abyss]

The tldr is, nothing worth investing in for the short term

[sinful elk]

How about the long term

[atomic abyss]

You grab independence from the core shop and raise her
Rather than the stuff here

[soft raft]

Besides this, Hiryuu META, Bearn META and Taihou for lvl 120 fleet tech bonuses

[atomic abyss]

You are missing August and Hakuryuu from PR4 anyways

[tame jungle]

so uhhh what's the general consensus on what to do with xp packs (the ones your academy generates)

[atomic abyss]

Just use them as needed

[sinful elk]

Am I done for

[atomic abyss]

Agir is not August

You're not getting to w15 anytime soon anyways

[sinful elk]

Yeah mb but you can see the IB tech

[viscid swift]

are you even on PR4 research focus

[tame jungle]

yea i just found out i had like 2k of them so i probably wanna start raising stuff then thanks

[undone plover]

was the 15 example fleets changed?
i remember guam was mob and brest boss

[sinful elk]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

So you haven't even worked on fdg

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Yuki changed the command

[worldly pewter]

that means u have just ignored the tech all this time so just start investing ur knowledge into that

[sinful elk]

I been doing chessboard for a while now but I am kinda afraid my oil can't handle the exp grind

I solely focused on eagle tech for anchorage because i were told shes very necessary for upcoming worlds

[atomic abyss]

Id argue that FdG is higher priority than Anchorage regardless but

[sinful elk]

Is it too late to restart

[atomic abyss]

You do know you can just pause the current one right
And come back to it later
Without losing any progress

[soft raft]

there's no need to

[sinful elk]

IB gives double tech for their ships right

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[hard mesa]

Rondo rerun for ib tech if you can

[wind hazel]

you will be sitting at chapter 12 for a very long time regardless, don't worry about what's beyond until you got solid ships

[sinful elk]

Nah i got to w13-2 tho

[wind hazel]

yes that's because they are easy

[sinful elk]

[soft raft]

We dont even know when that's gonna come but yeah that'd be a good source

[viscid swift]

we do, next week

JP patch notes confirmed it

[soft raft]

really?
Thought it was just Joffree WA

Ah neat

[atomic abyss]

And some augments

[worldly pewter]

wait isn't next week a dead week ?

[viscid swift]

no that's this week, Rhondo rerun is next week

[silk helm]

is there gunna be a data mine with who to pull for?

[atomic abyss]

There's literally no new banner this week

[soft raft]

What is there to datamine for a event that already ran before

[hard mesa]

They showed preview what will come on next week

[silk helm]

idk

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, Breguet also comming to the core data shop and new augments for among other ships San Diego and Izumo

[undone plover]

use free tickets save coobs for vanguard rerun
if u really like the ships then u can do a few pulls but dont go crazy

[soft raft]

Hell yeah baugette

[atomic abyss]

Sandy Izumo Le Malin for the relevant ones

[sinful elk]

Is this true or nah

[atomic abyss]

True

[viscid swift]

why wouldn't it be...

[hard mesa]

Starting this month for gears in shops right?

[steady beacon]

Ye

[undone plover]

do i sound untrustworthy
maybe i should change my name or pfp

[soft raft]

bro prob just doesnt know (yet)

[silk helm]

vanguard is pretty far away right, so i can spend some cubes to get some IB fleet tech

[hallow iron]

When is vanguard rerun btw

[steady beacon]

We don't know for sure

[atomic abyss]

^

[undone plover]

that one we dont know

[soft raft]

Vanguard's the next event in line after Rondo but we have no ide awhen they'll do it

[atomic abyss]

It shd be soon

[silk helm]

o okay

[viscid swift]

you don't need to spend cubes at all
Syedlitz is from the event shop and Thuringen is the milestone reward ship

plus you get 32 build tickets

[sinful elk]

Is VG some overpowered ship like laffey2

[atomic abyss]

Yes
But she's a BB

[soft raft]

Taps the sign
Will cross out Rondo after the actual event drops

[silk helm]

what about emden?

[viscid swift]

and some people said Vanguard would rerun right after the CN Anni

[hallow iron]

Damnn I'm Hype for musashi

[viscid swift]

she's decent, nothing worth blowing a bunch of cubes on

[soft raft]

she's prob the best ship from the event but even then she's just a DPS CL

[silk helm]

Thanks, i feel like i don't have enough ships

[inner delta]

with ironblood buff

[sinful elk]

Is she necessary for improving main camp and opsi's fleet process though

[undone plover]

there will probably be a new major event in august (EN anni)
JP anniversary in Sep
and vanguard rerun somewhere around all this
so spend on reruns with that in mind

[silk helm]

roger

[soft raft]

she's a pretty valueable buffer
Hence why she's been a mainstay in triple BB comps ever since she dropped

[atomic abyss]

She is a main component of opsi BB fleets

[sinful elk]

[viscid swift]

I'm rather on the fence about Vanguard tbh

[patent pivot]

until alsace came around and is now being held at gunpoint depending on vanguard damage

[sinful elk]

Btw does clearing strongholds in opsi drop UR blueprints

[tiny gulch]

https://i.imgur.com/otGhIZv.png

[tame jungle]

check wiki :3 but no it doesn't

[viscid swift]

they can drop from cate nodes but you're not guranteed any for clearing them

[tiny gulch]

what am i missing, fleet tech bros? plz don't tell me to check wiki, too much addition unless there's a "totals" somewhere that i missed

[soft raft]

well uh we dont even know what hulltype you're looking at

[tame jungle]

bb i think

[elfin hollow]

Obviously bb

[tiny gulch]

BB, sorry, thought that would've been obvious

[hard mesa]

Alsace

[soft raft]

Also damn that's crazy https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Maximum_Fleet_Technology_Bonuses

[tame jungle]

check wiki moment

[eternal basalt]

There is early July

[tiny gulch]

oh nice, this is perfect ty

looks like mostly just alsace from offensive stats, missing more HP than i thought but i think that must be kongou and haruna?

nvm, arizona meta

[eternal basalt]

Joffre raid isn't even archived, it's Foch... Eskimo STILL mia for EN.

[viscid swift]

raids don't get archived but the ships are being added to the perma pool alongside Foch

[eternal basalt]

(would be nice, stories forever lost... but they have to invent a new systrm for archiving them like META fights)

[frank pulsar]

in alsace zwei soy setup who gets flag? zwei?

[south sequoia]

Zwei

[solid harness]

So if I have Alsace should I pull for VG when she comes out?

[frank pulsar]

how much better now is harbin now that she has access to mog gun?

[wanton smelt]

What is the best CV and the best BB fleet?

[soft raft]

She's still worth pulling yeah

[frank pulsar]

depends

there isnt a set fleet for neither cv nor bb thats the definite best in any situation

[undone plover]

best 2 CV fleets are probably implacable/nano/hakuryuu or implac/yorkII/kearsarge

the BB is a bit contentious and needs testing (so I have been told)

[frank pulsar]

some combination of sushi, zwei, alsace, vanny and soy would work tbh

[undone plover]

ofc delulu is right. this can quickly change depending on the enemy

run those 2 fleets vs rodney META for example and it wont be great

[patent pivot]

BB med with perfect vanguards is alsace zwei Vanguard gayir hinde ply

[steady beacon]

[undone plover]

no helena

[frank pulsar]

hinden > unzen?

[patent pivot]

Uzi fucks so much harder on heavy

Free 30% Amp just from armor mods on her trps

[undone plover]

btw is the yorkii fleet better than IJN vs medium?

[patent pivot]

Probably, more fighter shit than IJN

[steady beacon]

Once tried to calculate this tbh
USS should win with Soyuz gun now, by a small margin
And at least against the Arbiter they should win outright bc keeping IJN concealment is bloody impossible

[viscid swift]

was this with or without factoring in running Plymouth with EU?

[last girder]

Chat is this team decent?

[patent pivot]

yet another BB dub

[viscid swift]

for what

[soft raft]

1. What content are you doing
2. Your positioning is wack
3. Why single line formation

[last girder]

just in general

[viscid swift]

general content is not a thing really in AL

[steady beacon]

Without
I know I ran Ply in the CV fleet for November Strength, but is that normal or something...

[viscid swift]

well it's a distinct possibility at least

[soft raft]

no fleet can optimally clear every major piece of content

[last girder]

1. the event story atm

2. idk how

3. idk what that is

[undone plover]

is there a way to check boss fleet hp after a fight is over in campaign? or do i just have to screenshot fast?

[soft raft]

be more specific than that, what chapter are you doing
tf you mean you dont know how
And this is what I mean with point 3

[viscid swift]

are you still one fleeting?

[last girder]

yeah, dont really have many units to have 2 good fleets

[viscid swift]

well the account is at least 7 months old so you should at this point

[cobalt rapids]

pause before battle ends

[last girder]

I mean idk what optimal positioning is, and i didn't know that mattered

[viscid swift]

and frankly one fleeting all the way to W12 is more hassle than it's worth

[last girder]

90% of my good units are on my fleet 1

[cobalt rapids]

are u asking in opsi because uss gets guam and nj buff while ijn gets nothing

[viscid swift]

I rather doubt that

[last girder]

and the rest are stuck at low lvl caps because i have no bullins

[soft raft]

Doubt that, post your dock in a thread

[steady beacon]

Post-Laffey II, I'll take my cloak for Yorktown
Based on my experience recently, even with her timed well Kear in the CV fleet does not come close to the number either CV pulls
She unironically is stronger in the BB fleet

[undone plover]

I suppose since running either fleet in CM or META is probably not ideal - at least with the new ones

[patent pivot]

Kevin in antilight BB?

[last girder]

dock

[soft raft]

Kevin?
You mean Kear?

[cobalt rapids]

ijn has been ideal in quite a few metas and cms

[patent pivot]

Or antimed?

[steady beacon]

Kevin
Petition to standardise Yahoo's nicknames for ships because they are just too funny

[patent pivot]

first person to like my nicknames

[lethal bolt]

Wanna ask,is there anyone else I should start building?
Also should I use my free ship voucher from early summer invitation 2024?

[inner delta]

ill fukin throw you out of the window if you giving nickname that no one will understand

[steady beacon]

Anti-light definitely
Anti-medium I've seen some evidence but not enough yet to come to a conclusion (esp because I ran out of time last month)
Anti-heavy pending ™️

[patent pivot]

Kevin is super obvious, it shares the first two letters

[soft raft]

stick with what you have for now
only other ships that I see there that are worthwhile in consideration to what you have are Alsace, Breenus, and San Diego (Tho low priority)

[cobalt rapids]

as obvious as pinamont

[whole crypt]

mainly it's just the thing whether the time spent to level your second fleet might give you better results than using the same time and resources to overlevel your first fleet
if you can't gear second fleet proper it's not really going to help anyway for 12

[patent pivot]

Alsace zwei kev? For light

[undone plover]

@lethal bolt which chapter are u on right now?

[steady beacon]

Ye, that'd be my try for anti-light now

[viscid swift]

well you can't really over level your fleet too much for W12 in the first place
and most are gonna be struggling for gear either way so

[steady beacon]

Wichita soon

[patent pivot]

I'd think antiheavy would just tag out biz for mash and hinde for uzi

[lethal bolt]

cleared ch9, unlocked ch 10 but i dont think my fleet is strong enough to do ch10

[whole crypt]

well depends on how long you took to get there, and whether you picked up any good UR/SRs that can help you push as well, if pure starter fleet then yeh you'll likely struggle

[viscid swift]

I mean yeah with a few MLB URs it'll be a breeze but 95% of players aren't really gonna be in such a position

[whole crypt]

I actually did it with 1 UR but yeh

[keen sable]

green elf needs cvs badly. and a second fleet

[zinc turret]

can anyone enlight me about the node difficulty ? like i know more triangle = harder so what fleet is the hardest and the weakest all i know 3 triangle battleship said to be hardest node

[whole crypt]

it's just 1-3

[keen sable]

1 usually has 0 guaranteed initial 3* while 4 can be all initial 3*

[undone plover]

time to start a 2nd fleet tbh
how many gold bulins do u have?
can u get enterprise from rookie missions or did u claim it already?
alsace/nelson can work for 2nd fleet BB
need a few more vanguards as well but can work with what we have if we have to

[keen sable]

you can sort of make a mockery of 4 by resetting until low or few 3*

[zinc turret]

so sacrificing some oil to get easier win huh ?

cuz its cost 10 oil to start

[steady beacon]

Ye
I'm currently experimenting with the possibility of ditching Bismarck anti-heavy, and it certainly looks like for relatively languid targets it can work out (assuming situations where we can't rely much on Agir's slow)
Although still gonna have to test out the non-Musashi variations before I can draw any conclusions

[whole crypt]

ultimately you want to be able to handle red nodes anyway

that's usually only for high campaign if you're struggling to beat the stage

[lethal bolt]

i got 7 golden bullens and havent finished rookie missions

[zinc turret]

that what i was thinking when i start ch 10 and its slap me hard

[whole crypt]

sometimes it's not so much that the stage is hard but just not being prepared

but at least if you're at 10 you can go back to 9 to level stuff until you come back with more level advantage

[zinc turret]

yeah i so dum too cuz i try to clear it with lv 70 vanguard and its lose like half of the hp after win a battle

[keen sable]

it just depends. usually 3* bb is hardest but on 13 specifically, 3* cv is hardest.

[zinc turret]

well my lv 70 vanguard was fine at w9 tho

[cobalt rapids]

3* bb > supercv on 15

[keen sable]

level (dis)advantage is ramping up

[barren sky]

does champagne gun do that more damage than georgia gun if it's considered straight up better?

[whole crypt]

depends on your use case

[cobalt rapids]

its not considered straight up better

[barren sky]

cuz like georg guns are syncable pretty well as well or at least i've never had any issues timing them

[whole crypt]

sync pretty well with what though

[viscid swift]

synced perfectly well to what

[lethal bolt]

wanna ask,are there any gear i should get in collection?

[cobalt rapids]

all guns are syncable between each other

[whole crypt]

EDC and beaver badge

[keen sable]

tell that to dork who can't sync with anyone

[whole crypt]

that's why I had her on MkD and Monarch gun the whole time

[undone plover]

ok finish the rookie missions. get enterprise

MLB brennus and replace laffey with her so u can raise her for second fleet tank
same with enty when u have her (replace hood/howe)
LB alsace with your rainbow bulins and raise her as well

ideally we want a CV like saratoga but i guess ch10-11 with double bb is better so we can do that later in 12

work towards these fleets:
hood, uni, howe
portland, javelin, cleveland

nelson, alsace, enterprise
brennus, helena, laffey

[steady beacon]

How in the blazes did you get her to sync with Mk D?

[lethal bolt]

is the edc from the yorktown class collection?

[keen sable]

nelson flag, pearl, wnt, medal, it's all good

[whole crypt]

probably wasn't MkD what was the gun before 457

[steady beacon]

Mk4?

[keen sable]

MK4

[whole crypt]

yeh that

[keen sable]

dork so slow she can't even get a 5th shot off with MK4

[lethal bolt]

ok thx

[tiny gulch]

so what's the verdict on mogador bros

[whole crypt]

top tier

[cobalt rapids]

pocket hinden

[tiny gulch]

no longer suicidal?

[steady beacon]

35% cooldown increase will do that to almost anyone

[cobalt rapids]

survives fine now

[keen sable]

it's not a penalty if you can't even reach the triggering condition

[mental marlin]

best alsace augment module?

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

[cobalt rapids]

sword or bow depending on content

[tiny gulch]

+9 crossbow

[soft raft]

I just slap on sword and forget about it

[hard mesa]

About mk4, what kind of buff does mk4 dmg increase fall into?

[zinc turret]

brennus better than laffey ?

[keen sable]

457?

[whole crypt]

what do you mean what kind of buff

[steady beacon]

Oh huh
Good question...

[whole crypt]

the bonus type of the 10%?

[keen sable]

they're not the same. laffy is capped and a waste of xp

[undone plover]

it is more that his laffey is capped at 120 so waste of xp to still run her
also he needs to raise new ships for 2nd fleet and we only have 3 vanguard slots in a fleet so we have to replace someone

[zinc turret]

aah i see

i was upgrading laffey and abandoned my brennus lol

[hard mesa]

Yeah, is it same as ammo buff or something else?

[steady beacon]

Ye
Hmmmmm
Genuinely never thought of it before
I'd think it's DamageRatioBullet applied to her main gun

[boreal wagon]

it is DRB for mg ye

[steady beacon]

Oh sweet, ty

[whole crypt]

I just think it doesn't matter because it was a cope gun for DoY to keep up with the real shellers

[steady beacon]

It matters, just not here

[hard mesa]

[keen sable]

oddly except for asw, brennus is probably all around better. more dps more tank indifferent aa (than laffey)

[hard mesa]

Oh another one, is it same for seal of 4 gods buff too?

[boreal wagon]

yes

[dapper token]

will the event ends in the next daily reset or will it stay for another 24 hours

[steady beacon]

Another 24 hours from the next daily reset

[wintry obsidian]

Finally turned 15-3 safe. Fuck the Wright brothers, fuck the planes and I'm not coming back to that hell

[jaunty vault]

kek

[meager gyro]

hows this for absolute poverty?

[whole crypt]

absolute dogshit

[wind hazel]

[eager mulch]

Bro that’s less than poverty

[whole crypt]

what did I say about just giving Roon's gear to Anchorage

[meager gyro]

need roon to farm felix xp

[whole crypt]

then wait for Felix to finish

[wind hazel]

no tech box to open right now? surely there are better purple options

[eager mulch]

I feel like getting Felix sooner would change nothing

[meager gyro]

completely dry

[wind hazel]

zamn

[whole crypt]

it would do absolutely nothing

[meager gyro]

cant start any other ship except the last 3 iron blood

[whole crypt]

you could just take a break from research you know

[meager gyro]

but then id run dry

[whole crypt]

run dry of what

[meager gyro]

research

[whole crypt]

excuse me?

[meager gyro]

i at least make progress on all the ships rn

[wind hazel]

it's ok, just use her. she will be dogshit, but whatever, she probably won't die or drag your fleet down either way. just make sure to give her proper equip when you can

[whole crypt]

you making any progress with ship dev now is irrelevant because that ship won't be usable for the next 2-3 months for you regardless

[hollow gust]

you can literally do better with day 1 gear

[meager gyro]

will mainz replace anyone here?

[meager gyro]

i literally have nothing

[whole crypt]

is mainz at least d25?

or do you have enough prints to get her to d25?

[meager gyro]

9

[slender heart]

She's not ready

[hollow gust]

that means your deleting gear?

[whole crypt]

if you don't have prints for her to be at least d25 she's not replacing anyone

[meager gyro]

no

[sweet delta]

🧵

[zinc turret]

wait wut , i tought st louis is saint louis but they different huh

[meager gyro]

how am i even supposed to get like 3k prints to get her to 25?

[soft raft]

then go grind dude
bitching about it wont magically make gear show up in your depot

[whole crypt]

she takes like 343 prints to d30, it's not 3k

[meager gyro]

grind how?

[strong tartan]

where did you get 3k from

[soft raft]

they are completely differnt ships yes

[whole crypt]

have you looked at how the research system works even?

this isn't the first time you're being told the research ships are useless if you don't know how to do your research to get prints

[meager gyro]

after almost 3 years my fdg is only dev 23

[icy mountain]

use other gears from ur other tanks

[whole crypt]

you're doing research wrong that's why

[sweet delta]

🧵

[hollow gust]

You get this day 1, you literally can't do worse

[meager gyro]

?

my anchorage came with no gear

[icy mountain]

also, you cant just use research ships if theyre not dev30 yet

[wind hazel]

well you can, but most of the time they are poopoo

[icy mountain]

343 prints for dev30 iirc

[strong tartan]

yes

[hollow gust]

go to your depot, craft them, a newbie has these gear

[loud rover]

He means that gear he’s got on there you can get within your first day of playing

[ebon verge]

daily login for coming back players now gives out 6 gold bulins in total now?

[meager gyro]

i cant craft any of these

[verbal mulch]

Go buy some Iris tech boxes in the medal shop. Or whatever is in your merit shop

[whole crypt]

grey we've tried, we really did, for about 3 weeks now I think.

[zinc turret]

how long i have to offline to get daily login comeback ?

[hollow gust]

[silk helm]

time to get out the 💳

[strong tartan]

don't leave me here

[ebon verge]

not sure, i took a 2 months break

[whole crypt]

the returnee thing? it gives you quite a bit yeh

[slender heart]

Keep playing bud, just trust me

[whole crypt]

playing is better than coping with returnee, you lose more than you get in the returnee stuff and some of it needs you to actually do shit to earn it

also amount of stuff in returnee depends on player level so you could be getting significantly less

[sweet delta]

I trust you

[wind hazel]

but how long to actually trigger it

[meager gyro]

no medals

[icy mountain]

should i invest in ark royal retro or should i just wait till i get avp?

[sweet delta]

Depends on your carriers

[slender heart]

Subbed

[hollow gust]

just go open tech boxes ffs

[sweet delta]

Ark has decent medium and heavy boss damage even if you don't use her slow

[strong tartan]

ark depends on her torps to hit to even apply the slow first right

[meager gyro]

i only have some grey and blue ones

[hollow gust]

the only way you are this dirt poor is by not playing the game at all

[whole crypt]

you can craft grey into blue and blue into purple
you also get more boxes just by grinding
why do you care about gearing Anchorage now if you're still using roon for felix XP

[icy mountain]

currently my cvs invested are enty, uni, sara, indy, shang'ri la

[sweet delta]

Ark is skippable

[fluid brook]

Which CV is Indy?

[strong tartan]

Independence

[icy mountain]

Independence

[whole crypt]

Independence but usually Indy we refer to Indianapolis...

[fluid brook]

Use Indep to avoid confusion please

[strong tartan]

just call her indep from now on

[wind hazel]

cv
must be CA indianapolis

[meager gyro]

thats all i have

[icy mountain]

i had cv and indy at the same sentence but okay

[wind hazel]

nah Jan you're fine

[sweet delta]

People refer to Indianapolis?

[ebon verge]

it only shows 1 but i got 3 of them

[strong tartan]

Portland does

[sweet delta]

Congrats

[whole crypt]

there's more in the points stuff

[novel condor]

extra purins naisu

[wintry obsidian]

Was 15-4 designed in the deepest boiler room in the deepest lava hot pit of Manjuu's hell? Chance of encounter, 2 support carrier groups, boss retreats 2 times AND you don't have nearly enough ammo to take on all of the mobs (and you can only call subs 5 times)

[sweet delta]

Sounds like you didn't bring a good enough fleet

If you're getting ambushed

[whole crypt]

you've basically been asking on a daily basis telling us you don't have stuff
gear doesn't magically appear overnight you need to just keep grinding

[icy mountain]

um, excuse me?

[wintry obsidian]

Fleet's as good as it gets. I'm lvl 135. I have all of the best ships

[meager gyro]

im grinding but i get nothing

[whole crypt]

how many runs of 11-1 have you done in the past 24 hours

[meager gyro]

20ish

[silk helm]

some number between 0 and 0

[icy mountain]

youve got to be trolling atp

[whole crypt]

and that generated no boxes at all?

[sweet delta]

A real good fleet would win 15-4 lethal 90% of tries

[meager gyro]

close to 30

[meager gyro]

im not

[strange sphinx]

"Indy-chan kawaii!" Portland

[novel condor]

how r u getting nothin? should have gotten some tech boxes by now

[strange sphinx]

yet he have Akashi's Exclusive equipment

[icy mountain]

based from the screenshots youve been sending on this server, i say youre trolling

[wintry obsidian]

The problem starts when mob fleet runs out of ammo. And boss fleet is reserved for the final boss appearance. Unicorn and Aquila together barely keep them alive

[sweet delta]

You really want four carriers in the two fleets to get air supremacy and no ambush anyways

[whole crypt]

there is no way you went through 20-30 runs of 11-1 without it having dropped any gear boxes
you have to keep repeating and crafting up your boxes and opening them when you get there

[sweet delta]

3 starring lethal is just not that easy

/w15 copy the second example fleet and read the 3 star note somewhere in Misc

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[meager gyro]

i only get blue and grey shit

[whole crypt]

you can craft grey into blue and blue into purple, how many do you have

[verbal elm]

How to access shipgirl memory?

[verbal mulch]

The answer to not grinding enough is to grind more

[sweet delta]

Touch her when she's secretary

[eternal basalt]

PS Agir thursday

[strong tartan]

don't make it weird

[meager gyro]

like 10 in total atm

[whole crypt]

if it's not enough to craft up repeat until you do
make sure you're also doing the daily raid that drops boxes

[meager gyro]

whats daily raid?

[whole crypt]

...

[verbal mulch]

We’ve identified the problem

[strong tartan]

you've gotta be kidding me

[whole crypt]

can someone screencap him the thing in EN with big red arrows

[meager gyro]

wheres that?

[sweet delta]

nntktt is running out of steam

[meager gyro]

whats that?

[sweet delta]

🧌

[verbal mulch]

Where you get a ton of your resources. This is why you read the tutorial

[meager gyro]

how do i get there?

[cobalt rapids]

here

[meager gyro]

oh

[silk helm]

where

[verbal mulch]

This explains why you’re so broke. You need to do those daily raids every day.

[craggy lance]

they are
as they say
daily

[cobalt rapids]

click on battle then u get to that screen

[silk helm]

what game is that

[cobalt rapids]

azur lane

[craggy lance]

Arknights

[slender heart]

Sekiro

[meager gyro]

ok and these things will unstuck me?

[eternal basalt]

~~Massive trolling here ~~

[whole crypt]

I'd rather not use the JP one and have him asking what the shit is

it's also 2am here

I'm just mindblown how someone can get to ch11 without touching daily raids

[sweet delta]

Turns out the EN one wasnt good enough either

[undone plover]

for 15-4 should i use mk7 for boss2 or stick to 457?

[sweet delta]

Depends on your fleet and strategy

[undone plover]

my boss fleet vanguard is too weak for 2 boss battles

[sweet delta]

If second boss is all she's fighting, then the bb takes HE

[keen sable]

There's a daily mission for it with a link to it

[verbal mulch]

What have you been doing for your skill books?

[meager gyro]

?

[keen sable]

Maybe missed those also

[whole crypt]

I think we've already been working under the assumption that he does not tap on anything or read anything on the game

I just couldn't have imagined something as basic as daily raids has not been touched this whole time

[silk helm]

ngl... i didn't know what daily raids were till recently

[sweet delta]

[undone plover]

to be fair raids dont give u ‼️

[silk helm]

its cuz i bought the commander lvl pack and had way too many thigns to click through

[eternal basalt]

Cause they have a daily

[verbal mulch]

Raids are your number 1 source of skill books, tech boxes, cognitive chips, submarine parts and to a lesser extent gear upgrade parts.

Also they give a few thousand gold each day

[meager gyro]

thats good to know

[novel condor]

dam first time seeing someone not touch daily raids, blud must have been skipping tutorials n dialogues

[undone plover]

if every ship in PR4 is FS5 except agir at dev30 and u focus pr4 will u get agir faces only?

[whole crypt]

someone should probably show him where the missions tab is while we're at it

[meager gyro]

missions? like the rookie thing at the top?

[keen sable]

That's what I meant. The problem is deeper than just raid

[topaz smelt]

I'm pretty sure he's just trolling at this point

[sweet delta]

Like the in game tutorial does when starting on a different server

[undone plover]

so u cant "prep" ships for FS5 efficiently?

[keen sable]

You do something stupid like leave Haku at -1 bp

[verbal mulch]

You’ve gotta be trolling

[meager gyro]

im not

[whole crypt]

it stops with the current caps for the ships unfortunately

[inland shoal]

Just start prepping before almost everything has fs5

[undone plover]

how does that help?

[sweet delta]

It doesn't

[inland shoal]

He means leave Ägir at -1 bp from dev30
That makes her quite a bit worse, but you can prep for fs5 well

[keen sable]

It doesn't your q was ambiguous

[cobalt rapids]

you can save ur blanks

[sweet delta]

The efficient way is to be an old player and just have enough from years of tenrai grind

[inland shoal]

Though it also counts bps in inventory and you can't protocore them before you hit dev30

[silk helm]

if i can't do fdg yet (no tech points) what ship should i be researching

[verbal mulch]

Did you know you can craft gear from blueprints? Cause if you have Anchorage then there’s no way you don’t have enough research prints to make some good gear

[sweet delta]

Someone you can coin, pr4> any of 1-3

[undone plover]

that is actually smart ngl but I am too much of a noob to afford that luxury

[eternal basalt]

Any you can, pref Anchorage

[whole crypt]

the best way is just to be caught up with researches, so that when FS comes you'd have excess from events and catchup
otherwise you'll really just be collecting excess prints for everyone along the way, preferably for newer series before PRs get FS and DRs don't

[meager gyro]

crafting in ur depot?

[keen sable]

Should be a few more reruns with s4 bp only

[verbal mulch]

Yes. This screen

[eternal basalt]

Like Rondo coming soon

[meager gyro]

how tf do you have that much

[whole crypt]

by playing the game

[inland shoal]

It's called being old

[whole crypt]

that's not even really old yet

[cobalt rapids]

its inevitable when ure catching up so dw about it
but past 2 tenrais u should be moved from pr4 anyway so there shouldnt be non aegir wasted faces
and when her fs5 release then u can switch back and get face focus

[meager gyro]

yeah i know this screen

[keen sable]

Who was willing to speculate that agir includes coining obviating any need for bp?

[verbal mulch]

Playing the game daily since around the time PR2 came out

[whole crypt]

well look on the bright side, while you stay in PR4 for excess Agir prints the other excess ship prints also add to your proto cores
but with PR4 coinable and probably the series going into retirement within the next year you should move on at some point to not fall behind

[meager gyro]

im also playing since only pr2 was a thing

[whole crypt]

did you really just not ever read anything that was on the screen

[meager gyro]

i try to skip most of the boring dialogue

[whole crypt]

yes, and skip the game teaching you how to play it too I assume

[novel condor]

^ this tbh

[undone plover]

are 2 star BB nodes stronger than 2 CV?

[viscid swift]

in W15? if you have good AA yes

[meager gyro]

ok so what should i do now?

[inland shoal]

Kinda depends where, but in the late worlds yes imo

[whole crypt]

you wait until the years of resources you have been skipping start to catch up

[meager gyro]

currently farming felix xp as this is really the only thing i can do

[keen sable]

Like all games AL is a grammar exercise. See funny ! symbol. Smash funny ! symbol. And now I don't even have to make an exception for mail anymore

[verbal mulch]

A good start might be making an account on a different server and actually reading the tutorial, once you’ve learned how to play the game you can go back to your normal account.

[undone plover]

felix wont do anything until 10 months from now.
iirc u already researched some ships to coin
take a break from researching ships and work on getting EU tech to unlock anchorage

[meager gyro]

i spent money on that account im not deleting it just for the tutorial

[whole crypt]

you don't have to delete it, you can start a fresh account on a different server and keep this one

and you can come back to it at any time

[meager gyro]

well better doing ships rn than just not doing anything

[meager gyro]

didnt you lose ur account when u switch servers?

[undone plover]

not if they force u to run KMS ships and hurt your progression

[whole crypt]

you can always swap back it's not reset

[viscid swift]

you could literally be leveling up the ships you're gonna use to push W12 instead...

[meager gyro]

im not progressing anyway

[whole crypt]

he insists on doing PR for ships that'll be useless to him so I'm not trying to tell him what ships to use anymore

[undone plover]

maybe cuz u research felix

[loud rover]

the self brick is real

[whole crypt]

he just fundamentally needs to learn the game from scratch

[meager gyro]

better to research a ship i cant use atm than not researching anything and having to do it later?

[loud rover]

Didn’t we have a whole thread about gear and ships for him yesterday?

[whole crypt]

better to research ships when you can actually afford the resoruces

we did
and last week I had time with him too
and cheeky the week before

[meager gyro]

than i wouldnt have any pr ship rn

[viscid swift]

you do realize it's gonna take a few months just to get Felix to a usable state right?

[whole crypt]

why would that matter, you don't need any of the PR ships for progress
most of those you have aren't even in a usable state

[viscid swift]

and that's assuming you drop everything and switch to PR6 research focus which you shouldn't and you can sustain 100% research uptime with good researches which I doubt you can

[meager gyro]

but i do have them so i dont gotta go through the trouble later

[loud rover]

Leave PR ships alone and focus on 6 ships that you can use to get through w11

[verbal mulch]

You don’t lose your account when you switch servers

[whole crypt]

you're causing yourself more trouble now doing it

[loud rover]

I wanna say he’s doing this on purpose but he’s been doing it for over a week

[whole crypt]

he doesn't care what we recommend or how the game actually works

[meager gyro]

when i research a ship i actually make some progress

kinda

[whole crypt]

leveling useful ships is also progress

[meager gyro]

theyre already all high level

[whole crypt]

spending your time on resources on ships that won't be useful is impeding your prgoress

[loud rover]

You’re going through more trouble doing it now when you don’t even have the capability of getting to the later worlds for better grinding. I’m almost done with Plymouth but I’m ignoring her because I wanna get through w14 first

[patent pivot]

Ditching BiZ for antiheavy makes sense. Assuming perfect hitrates mash does outdmg her personal dmg. Just comes down to fleet buffs

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure at least several of the ships we've pointed out to you before are not lv 120 yet

[meager gyro]

like?

[verbal mulch]

What is high level?

[meager gyro]

100+

[viscid swift]

high level would be 120

[verbal mulch]

That is incorrect. High level is 120-125.

[loud rover]

120+

You get all the fleet tech and faction tech and you’re as high as you can go without dark blue cog chips

[whole crypt]

I'll again tell you now you just have to wait for the years of missed resources to catchup, so you can actually start gearing your ships and probably awakening more ships since you probably don't have that many chips either

[meager gyro]

gear my ships? with what gear?

[verbal mulch]

Oh my god

[keen sable]

that makes no sense. the game's economy clearly expects you to do research. In fact if you don't do research you end up with too many coins and nothing to spend it on.

[whole crypt]

with gear that you'll get from boxes now that you've finally started doing daily raids?

[meager gyro]

i got no luck with boxes

[keen sable]

do you not do gatcha also?

[craggy lance]

don’t need luck when you have hundreds of purple boxes

[whole crypt]

he has not done daily raids for 4 years.

[craggy lance]

oh good lord

[meager gyro]

hundreds????

[craggy lance]

Sorry, thousands, my mistake

[meager gyro]

WHAT???

[craggy lance]

I have hundreds of gold boxes

tend to just craft stuff anyway

[meager gyro]

how?

[verbal mulch]

I’m pretty poor compared to some people…this isn’t unusual with actually playing daily raids

[craggy lance]

I’m honestly not sure
They just sort of appear

[whole crypt]

this is what you have not been doing for the past 4 years

[meager gyro]

nah those pics are photoshopped

[verbal mulch]

You reach a point where you just stop caring about tech boxes

[craggy lance]

Yeah I usually throw mine into research projects so I don’t have as many as you

Also I’ve been only playing for two years or so

[viscid swift]

well those researches are shit
so you don't wanna be taking the anyway

[craggy lance]

yeah ik

[whole crypt]

sure this is the account I only play for 4 months a year

[meager gyro]

how

[whole crypt]

play the god damn game

[meager gyro]

ive been playing for 4 years

[keen sable]

just drop it

[silk helm]

😂

[verbal mulch]

If that’s photoshop, I assume this is photoshop too?

[hollow gust]

[topaz smelt]

definitely ps

[meager gyro]

this is simply not possible

[hollow gust]

Looks broke

[cobalt rapids]

did i walk into #trophy-room

[craggy lance]

#gameplay-help message

[whole crypt]

you somehow played for 4 years without doing daily raids which is why you missed all of the resources you needed to progress

[keen sable]

ps fail only one table

[viscid swift]

give it a few months

[loud rover]

It is if you actually play the game instead of self bricking

[craggy lance]

Yeah
Rondo is in two weeks and vanguard should be soon after

I’d expect an IB event between the two but don’t quote me on that

[viscid swift]

closer to one week

[loud rover]

Gaming table available soon?

[verbal mulch]

That’s not even half of it, note the scrollbar isn’t even halfway down. This stuff is absolutely possible if you actually play the game and…read the tutorial

[viscid swift]

if you consider a few months soon yes

[craggy lance]

It’s the rerun after next whaddaya want from me

[topaz smelt]

fuck the tutorial, you can play the game just by clicking all the notifications that annoy you

[loud rover]

I don’t have so yes it’s sooner than not getting one at all

[silk helm]

W

[meager gyro]

thats 4 years

[craggy lance]

[topaz smelt]

ive seen login warriors have more

[whole crypt]

I'll be dead honest, this is probably the first time I'm telling anyone you're playing the game wrong

[keen sable]

clearly photoshopped with fake sort

[loud rover]

This is ~6 months of play time and I even stopped playing for a few months until a couple weeks ago

[undone plover]

ply gun better aux in 15 than triple 155?

[viscid swift]

yes

[undone plover]

[meager gyro]

not possible

[whole crypt]

q152 is best secondary gun, it's just a scarcity issue

[cobalt rapids]

read the guide

[loud rover]

It is if you play the game

[verbal mulch]

That’s the free oxytorp they sent out in the mail awhile ago right? Are you doing hard mode stages to get core data?

[meager gyro]

idk where i got that thing and yes

6 prints in 4 years

[loud rover]

If ur not rolling in core data after 4 years then you haven’t been doing hard stages

[loud rover]

You can craft in gear lab lol you don’t need to get prints for 457

[cyan sierra]

You should actually play better if you're complaining.

[silk helm]

whats hard mode

[undone plover]

faster to ask here
also I read it but i skim so didnt see that part

[hollow gust]

I'm broke 😭

[loud rover]

Dude has been here for about a week or more asking the same stuff and not taking any advice. I’m tempted to say he’s doing this on purpose

[topaz smelt]

4 years of playing, 0 years of opsi

[craggy lance]

let me guess you don’t play opsi either

[undone plover]

guide needs more pictures

[meager gyro]

i do but i dont get anything good

[loud rover]

Ew rainbow mags

[whole crypt]

he does, but he can't clear properly because his ships and gear are shit

[craggy lance]

aaaaah

[whole crypt]

and his ships and gear are shit because he's not been playing right the past 4 years

[hollow gust]

You are guranteed to get stuff

[wispy pendant]

"playing for 4 years" means something different for different people

[craggy lance]

yeah like I’m genuinely kind of sorry this happened to you berke

[meager gyro]

bro ive gotten 4 mats and like 5 plates from a stronghold

[hollow gust]

Open the goddamn shop

[whole crypt]

we all do, but we don't take 20 runs to do it

[viscid swift]

if you want to get anything substantial from OpSi you need to do everything

[keen sable]

i got that from like today's daily...

[viscid swift]

the strongholds, abyssals, hidden nodes, by stuff from the port shops, etc

one stronghold clear is just a drop in the ocean

[wispy pendant]

excuse making isn't the same as asking for gameplay help

[inner delta]

@meager gyro hi, i have been watching the past few days of your interaction with people here regarding your "asking for help", seems that from what i read you just doesn't even take advice and just repeat the same shit again and even i got a few mods that help you said that you either just really really dense or borderline trolling at this point. So i will give this as your first warning from me to consider actually stopping (if you are trolling) or start accepting help instead of whine all the time
Sincerly Bread.

[meager gyro]

i would if i get advice that i can actually do

[viscid swift]

we literally have....

[topaz smelt]

sorry if you cant play the game

[inner delta]

you have gotten plenty of advice that normal user that asked for help gets, im not accepting that as a reason

[viscid swift]

and even if you can't do it right now it's something you can work towards

[verbal mulch]

@meager gyro There’s no easy answer for you. You’re years behind on resources and for someone who’s been playing for 4 years, you’re missing a ton of event rainbow gear that’s literally free.
You just need to wait to catch up on resources with raids. There’s not going to be a piece of advice that fixes years of not playing the game.

[craggy lance]

other than “play the entire game, not just part of it”

[viscid swift]

All I can is, you're just making things worse for yourself if you continue as you are

[cyan sierra]

Start the grind and stop complaining. There's no magic button here.

[meager gyro]

"play opsi" yeah i cant do anything higher than corrosion 5
"craft gear" no mats
"open boxes" i got none

[wispy pendant]

The game is a grind. There is a place to get everything you see other people have, you just need to ask the right questions and then go and do it. Nothing is fast in this game.

[craggy lance]

“do daily raids”?

[verbal mulch]

Do. Daily. Raids.

[keen sable]

did you buy all the boxes from event store?

[viscid swift]

ignoring everything else right now
you haven't even followed my initial advice to level up your gear and get to W12
you had perfectly good gear to get yourself to W12

[wispy pendant]

new accounts can be clearing c5 in like a month... you just need to follow guides and level up ships and work on gear. if someone can do it in a month, you can also do it in a month, you just need to do it

[meager gyro]

no mats to upgrade gear

[wispy pendant]

then go get them

[viscid swift]

farm in W11 for now and get said mats and more XP on your ships

[meager gyro]

no points

[verbal mulch]

You’re not listening. Do daily raids every day

[vale spindle]

grind events for more points

[meager gyro]

now im supposed to do event again?

[vale spindle]

whilst the event is up you should grind event yes

[viscid swift]

grind the event maps, at least D1 preferably

[keen sable]

i think the answer is self evident there. but if not and sarcasm goes over the top of your head, play the event like you are supposed to.

[wispy pendant]

bruh, if you don't take advice for days, and you don't take a warning from a moderator, I don't see this working in good faith. I'm choosing to not engage in helping you until I see it's making a difference.

[vale spindle]

if you need to manual to clear stages then manually control your ships to clear stages

[meager gyro]

i do event, its wrong
i grind w11, its wrong again

[whole crypt]

you realize no one here gave you advice based on the expectation you missed 4 years of progression and resources

[vale spindle]

yall need to shut up this is getting confusing k thx

[inner delta]

Again, i have been in this channel for over 3 years now and i know people give you the same suggestion and shit for any other player either newer than you or the same as you (returning) and non of them have any problem (except 1 user) so from what i been reading so far it's all just an excuse, so actually try to listen to them or i will brand you as trolling

[wispy pendant]

(except 1 user) lol...

[vale spindle]

heres what you should do

• grind event, preferably d stage
• after the event is done, grind a campaign stage that is chapter 11 or higher
• if you are unable to clear any of these stages on their initial clearing attempts, manually battle with your ships for the first couple stage clears until the stage threat level reduces enough that auto battle works
• login every day you are able and do all your daily missions / tasks, including daily raids and commissions
• check the shops every so often and buy stuff WITHOUT USING GEMS/IRL MONEY if you need it
• operation siren counts as a daily, if you cant clear hard opsi content that's fine just use your ap on zones you can clear

[atomic abyss]

Part of the reason you are getting conflicting advice is because you never followed a single one enough to get anything meaningful out of them

If you come here with different problems each time, naturally the advice will be different each time

My recommendation to you previously is largely the same as Sam's

Grind the event for now, then move on to the story after the event is over
When your fleet morale is low, send them around opsi which doesn't consume morale

[tranquil saffron]

You literally just need to take the first step
Doesn't matter whether that first step is grinding chapter 11 for a week to get mats and gold for better equipment or grinding the event just do something

[keen sable]

that's just an excuse. because if you did 11 instead of event you would achieve 95% of the rewards with equivalent effort. and 95% is still way better than nothing.

[tranquil saffron]

Like a few people said, the game is grind

[meager gyro]

is shinano good?

[whole crypt]

stop.

[vale spindle]

yes if she is max limit broken

[viscid swift]

forget about raising new ships entirely right now

[vale spindle]

if she isnt then bench her until she is

[viscid swift]

I reccomended you 2 fleets already which most newer players could only dream of

[tranquil saffron]

What's the difference between 155 and 155 kai?

[viscid swift]

farm the event and when it's over in a few days, grind W11 and push to W12

[vale spindle]

the gun pattern

[whole crypt]

damage and pattern

[tranquil saffron]

When should I use the 155 kai and when should I use the 155

[undone plover]

155 is general good bb aux
155 kai is good CL gun and ch14 bb aux

[tranquil saffron]

Thanks

[whole crypt]

155 is good for FP stat stick on BBs until 13
155kai is good for 14+ and also works on vanguard

[wispy pendant]

is kai always better, just not worth it as bb aux?

[cyan sierra]

155 is terrible as a vanguard gun got because it is a scattergun.

[vale spindle]

kai is always better for vanguard ships

[undone plover]

155 better aux anywhere outside ch14

[keen sable]

155 works fine on 14. at least if you use fdg and uvh

[meager gyro]

so do i play w11 or event now?

[vale spindle]

do event

[whole crypt]

kai is worth using as secondary gun in 14+ but materials cost if you're not there yet

[vale spindle]

specifically the HARD MODE STAGES

[meager gyro]

?

[whole crypt]

D3

[vale spindle]

events have 2 stage types, normal and hard

[atomic abyss]

^

[stark quiver]

#gameplay-help message right here

[vale spindle]

hard stages start with letter C and D

[whole crypt]

he's done D3, he can repeat D3... or should be unless he broke something again

[vale spindle]

you don't need to do the normal stages to unlock the hard stages

oh d3 is unlocked? great

[whole crypt]

he's already done some D3 before and got a bunch of the event stuff, we didn't know how much he was actually missing until just now so we said he could move back to 11 for leveling

[wispy pendant]

it's painful that he doesn't know that D3 is the hard stage

[meager gyro]

my guys are still surviving somehow