gameplay-help

[remote yarrow]

If you are a F2P there's no room for spending them on skins btw

[whole crypt]

soyuz's crossfleet is still great, and you can one shot whether or not you replace her with Alsace

[spice phoenix]

thats fair

[rose cosmos]

So most packs are big no no right?

[snow coral]

so soyuz becomes crossfleet bot then, dang

[old zodiac]

should i be doing smth if my main fleets morale is low? like is there anything i should do while i wait for them to raise their morale again?

[whole crypt]

I mean if you want to overkill your bosses by 50% instead of 30% I guess?

[remote yarrow]

Like I said, if you are F2P big nono, just spend your gems on 3rd or 4th dorm Slot + 2nd floor then all on dock space

If you plan on spending just do whatever you want with your gems

[spice phoenix]

i thought second floor was just aesthetic

[whole crypt]

packs or otherwise we just don't recommend buying resources with gems unless you whale, and if you whale that's yoru decision

[cobalt rapids]

All bbs are crossfleet bots if u play long enough

[snow coral]

as a matter of fact I do

[whole crypt]

2/F has higher morale regen and gives you another set of slots

[spice phoenix]

ohhhh

[whole crypt]

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, I'm just saying it's inconsequential

[rose cosmos]

Btw, is there anyway to specifically farm prints aside from random drops

[spice phoenix]

not that i know of

[whole crypt]

it matters very little for myself when I'm not going to be watching the boss fight regardless

[snow coral]

That's fair, but there's little reason for me to not just use alsace then so may as well

[whole crypt]

well on the other hand some people want a reason to continue using their Soyuz as well

there's no strict right or wrong for this

[spice phoenix]

thoughts on my opsi fleets? any ways i could improve? (i know it’s not the best, but i don’t have musashi and implaceable)

[snow coral]

is soyuz worth running with 2 CVs?

[whole crypt]

if you want to stack crossfleets the CV fleet is getting dismantled so...

[remote yarrow]

Some of them are interesting to say the least

[spice phoenix]

i just threw some together lol

[atomic abyss]

you could, but you're better off running 2 CVs with a slower like implacable or avp

[remote yarrow]

Only decent-ish one is Fleet 2 tbh

[cobalt rapids]

~~so soyuz ~~

[remote yarrow]

the others are kinda all over the place

[snow coral]

suppose that's true, don't really have a crossfleet...fleet in op siren so can just get rid of cv fleet

[spice phoenix]

first fleet is mob btw if thats throwing you off

[remote yarrow]

Mob Main with a CV comp vanguard

[whole crypt]

I've been seeing a tornado thingy a lot lately is that Bearn META's skill or something

[cobalt rapids]

First of all lvur ships to 120 at least, lv 89 ships are useless

Second dont faction fleet

[snow coral]

who has the most impactful crossfleets btw?

[cobalt rapids]

3rd read sams fleet building guide

[remote yarrow]

There's a faction fleet?

[sweet delta]

Soyuz and Alsace

[remote yarrow]

oh 3rd fleet

[atomic abyss]

and i guess indep

[potent slate]

so what do I do to make my dorm not suck balls

[snow coral]

how about uvh?

[whole crypt]

I just like having 4-5 cross fleet barrages staggered

[remote yarrow]

Click that Construction Site Sign and upgrade it

[potent slate]

need more coins :/

[whole crypt]

improving your dorm will take time to collect dorm coins

[remote yarrow]

Should've expanded your dorm before buying the set

[cobalt rapids]

Uvh is great for triple cv fleets

[whole crypt]

there's no fast way to improve it

[spice phoenix]

as in cross fleet or..??

[whole crypt]

even if you pay for it the packs that have dorm coins are laughable in denomination compared to expanding dorm and buying whole furniture sets

[steady beacon]

Can't remember the precise numbers anymore, but if you hit a certain proportion of the parallel torps it can successively beat out the Saiun, the Ju-87, and the Ryuusei ye
Iirc Saiun is something like 30%

[whole crypt]

UvH's crossfleet is proxmity barrage and is useful to for killing suicide boats on CV fleets

[potent slate]

what is the point of the cats

[spice phoenix]

which URs are Bulin priority?

[plain saffron]

depends

[cobalt rapids]

Make ur fleets stronger

[sweet delta]

If the TB slot is weak, then spearfish can hit much less and still beat saiun

[atomic abyss]

backliners
but depends on what you already have

[remote yarrow]

Spending all your life savings on them later in the game to get a perfect cat

[plain saffron]

more stats/dmg

and better drops in opsi cat nodes

[spice phoenix]

my UR roster so far (who is priority?)

[fresh tangle]

Don’t spend any coins yet on cats. Take your free ones daily and save SR cats en masse

[atomic abyss]

soyuz, then alsace, then shinano

[remote yarrow]

Why are you partially LBing your URs

[atomic abyss]

tho i suppose you could go alsace over soyuz first
but small difference

[spice phoenix]

waiting ig

[atomic abyss]

never do that

[cobalt rapids]

Where is pr4

[remote yarrow]

Wait you are right

PR4 Where

[atomic abyss]

yikes

[spice phoenix]

dw i got tons of spec cores

[remote yarrow]

Then use them

[golden yew]

Hello Everybody!

Been playing around with Azuma and Kazagumo, and wanted to share some loadouts here maybe, hear what others have to say, and perhaps what would be good go change or replace.

[cobalt rapids]

Are u manual

[remote yarrow]

That's a really shiny Kazagumo that will probably die in 2 shots

But will also hit like a truck in manual

[burnt anchor]

who should i prioritize for MLBing

[atomic abyss]

i am a bit concerned why you spent the mats on a 113...
but no oxy torps for kaza
toolboxes

[golden yew]

Most of the time when I just grind 13-4, sometimes auto to have some fun, eh both.

[atomic abyss]

then drop the rainbow 610
use gold quad mags

[cobalt rapids]

Torps on kaza are manual only for auto use quads and u prob pref some surv on her too so use toolkits

Fumo on azuma also replace by surv as needed

[atomic abyss]

as for azuma
mostly fine
though i think the twin 138 would be preferred on many other ships...

[frank pulsar]

alsace > soyuz > shinano > guam > laffey ii > ulrich = mogador

[remote yarrow]

Do you have any other UR BBs?

[sweet delta]

iron blood quad magnetic

[remote yarrow]

Well nvm already soup answered

[snow coral]

is mog the highest light armor vanguard dps in the game now?

[burnt anchor]

FdG, zwei are all MLB'd
i have a kearsarge that i'm still getting blueprints for

[crisp estuary]

Dammit

[old zodiac]

is sirius indy portland a good combo?

[atomic abyss]

no
still hinden

[burnt anchor]

thank you

[remote yarrow]

Yeah follow what soup said then

[atomic abyss]

no
indy isn't used at all

[snow coral]

how close are they?

[crisp estuary]

Guess who has an mlb Soyuz and 0lb Alsace

[old zodiac]

who to replace indy?

[remote yarrow]

me?

[atomic abyss]

close... assuming hinden is not buffed by bismarck zwei

[remote yarrow]

Helena

[atomic abyss]

helena and your starter to replace sirius and indy

[golden yew]

Was originally using Shimakaze with that equipment, but then decided to change to Kazagumo for a big and see how it impacts the CVs, also decided to go with Azuma over Unzen for the sake of survivalability and the HP Azuma has.

[snow coral]

Not running bismarck on my anti light fleet so may go mog after all

[remote yarrow]

Didn't we tell you to follow the Newbie fleet earlier tho?

[frank pulsar]

if you're on auto its better to run defensive auxiliaries, and unzen is better than shimanto if you dont need her aa

[atomic abyss]

then use hindy on your med and mog on light ye

[remote yarrow]

Wait it's 4:48AM

[old zodiac]

yeah im on another acc im just asking cuz it has sirius portland indy combo on it

[atomic abyss]

sounds shit
outside portland

[remote yarrow]

Cya gph

[atomic abyss]

sirius is important later
not for a new player tho

[golden yew]

I'm running Shimanto with both AA aux lol. Wanted to get a more reliable way to beat Taihou in stage 13.

[old zodiac]

though i should not have wasted oil on 3-4 lol

[snow coral]

thinking york2/implac/kear/laff2/aurora/mog. Think this should work

[atomic abyss]

that is... bad

[golden yew]

Went with that UR AA on her because it seemed like a good choice for her.

[atomic abyss]

as a general rule
all frontliners want bulk boosting aux items

[golden yew]

Sooo more HP?

[cobalt rapids]

What is dying to taihou

[atomic abyss]

toolbox + gold high performance rudder

[cobalt rapids]

Is it sushi

[golden yew]

I still want her to be a bit more focused on AA, would this do better?

[atomic abyss]

no
just forget the AA radars entirely

[whole crypt]

better but still bad
if you are losing your main fleet either your DPS is too low or your setup is just cucked

[atomic abyss]

another 100 AA isn't gonna really benefit a ship with 400+ AA to begin with

[crisp estuary]

[atomic abyss]

im expecting nano and haku are probably missing fighters

so sushi is dying

[crisp estuary]

They aren't. The fighters just do not intercept

[hollow gust]

[golden yew]

So a tool box should do the trick then I suppose?

[atomic abyss]

the ideal for all CA/CL is toolbox+rudder

[whole crypt]

it should, but if you're losing then your whole fleet has issues

[atomic abyss]

im guessing there's a musashi gun on that musashi too

[cobalt rapids]

can you tell us what happens so we can tell you what u need ? if ure manualling and shimanto isnt dying then replacing her auxes wont fix anything

[crisp estuary]

What fighters are the carriers equipped with?

[golden yew]

Actually getting very well through stage 13 mission 4 for a grind, was just curious to hear what others think about it.

[kind slate]

i calculated that haku has cooldown of 21.51s but it says 23.16s/wave on the ingame gear?
what does that mean?

[spice phoenix]

could i see someone’s opsi fleets so i could get a better understanding of how to build em?

[atomic abyss]

how did you calculate it

[whole crypt]

then you're fine, you don't need HPAARs

[kind slate]

the cv reload calculator website thing

[cobalt rapids]

it means you inputted wrong numbers, the cooldown on traneptora vs ingame should only differ by 0.1s

[kind slate]

do i even need the calculator? can i try sync using just the ingame values?

[hollow gust]

[cobalt rapids]

if ships have reload skills or ure using timing adjust aux

[golden yew]

I like to use faction based planes when it comes to CVs.

[cobalt rapids]

for haku nano implac u can use ingame as long as u dont use beacon or avi manjuu

[kind slate]

how abt for avp? does she have altering skills?

[atomic abyss]

more likely to fail once you account for reload skills

LIKE AVP

[hollow gust]

So much +11s

[cobalt rapids]

she does, if equipped with ib plane

[whole crypt]

oh look shitty fighters and bad TBs for campaign

[atomic abyss]

avp has 12% reload buff with IB plane on

[tranquil saffron]

When AA is not needed what is the best AA to use on damage dealing ships like Shima?

[cobalt rapids]

staag

[whole crypt]

if FP ship 134
if not FP ship STAAG

[atomic abyss]

assuming you mean shimanto

[golden yew]

Wanted to finish the lvl +13s on my IB fleet before going for the Sakura Empire, so that is why they're 11.

[tranquil saffron]

No

[atomic abyss]

shimakaze takes the staag then

[hollow gust]

Stop making +11 stuff, you either don't start it or you finish it

[whole crypt]

for the record those fighters are shit

and what grey said about enhancing gear

[hollow gust]

Spreading out gold plates is a waste

[golden yew]

Hmm, okay, thanks. Any other suggestion for a Sakura fighter then?

[whole crypt]

don't use faction gear

[old zodiac]

can someone help me here? currently 4-1

[golden yew]

I know that but using a US plane on a IJN ship feels off lol.

[whole crypt]

shit plane is shit, period, I'm not going to comment on what feels off for you

[kind slate]

where do i get the cooldown for planes at +10 to input? is it the FR when the plane is equipped?

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[crisp estuary]

Me: Man, I will look so smart for predicting the problem were the Bf109G rocketplanes

The problem:

[cobalt rapids]

dont touch plane numbers

[inland shoal]

No, it's the FR when the plane is not equipped. But the calc should just put them in when you select the plane anyway

[cobalt rapids]

just select em from the list or if they arent on the list then u can input em at +10 value but from the wiki or ingame depot not equipped

[atomic abyss]

richelieu, little friederich, unicorn, portland, laffey helena
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

follow this guide

[golden yew]

Well, thanks for the advice.

[old zodiac]

ty

[tranquil saffron]

What AA gun should I use on shimakaze when I do need AA?

[whole crypt]

rainbow

[sweet delta]

Those fighters are already the best sakura fighters, and they're quite fine but not worth +13

[silver lintel]

U dont run shima for aa heavy content

[whole crypt]

you can if your AA bases are covered

I won't seriously recommend using her for 13H or 15 though

[sweet delta]

I run shima(nto) for aa heavy content

[golden yew]

Wouldn't a Sandy or Shimanto be better for heavy AA stuff?

[whole crypt]

for AA yes, but as a DPS role within the fleet Shimakaze still functions
you can use her if your AA is covered by others in the fleet

[golden yew]

What about the backline?

I guess CVs would be the best choice in such scenario.

And maybe a Kearsarge with a NJ gun?

[tame jungle]

Holy fuck faction planes is a new one

[whole crypt]

13/13H mob fleet can go 3 CVs
15 needs a BB that's not Kearsarge for mobbing
457 probably better

[tranquil saffron]

Should I +12 the tenrai or +11 the other 2?

[kind slate]

what am i trying to sync? the cooldown, first cooldown or the strike timers?

[atomic abyss]

strike timers

[cobalt rapids]

all of em

[crisp estuary]

Does Shimanto have 2aagm?

[whole crypt]

you can +13 one of the gold planes for the cost of +12 of Tenrai

[frank pulsar]

focus on one +13 at a time

[tame jungle]

You should ideally push for +13 per gear you’re enhancing since the last upgrade is the most influential

[spice phoenix]

are the triple 152’s worth crafting or are the tripple 155’s good enough

[whole crypt]

which gun and which gun for what purpose?

[spice phoenix]

proto triple 152s over triple 155s for BB?

[whole crypt]

don't ever make that gun in lab

[atomic abyss]

strictly speaking it is better than the og 155s
the issue is moreso that it isn't worth the mats in lab

[whole crypt]

vanilla gold triple 155 are fine for BBs before ch14

[kind slate]

this is what i got trying to sync. is this timing fine? shinano, avp, haku respectively

[cobalt rapids]

fine for four striking

[kind slate]

is that long enough for most fights?

[atomic abyss]

outside challenge mode, yes

[golden yew]

Would Plymouth's UR CL gun be considered the "Best" equipment for a BB's secondary? I've seen other players have it in place, it is because of the FP stat that it provides?

[whole crypt]

yes but scarcity

[golden yew]

Yeah I noticed they're hard to make. Only got two so far and barely working on the 3rd one. 8/50.

[cobalt rapids]

its also the best intercept gun and also the best cl main gun

[snow coral]

is it worth going gun mode on bearn meta?

[whole crypt]

well you have plenty of time to come back to PR5 for it if you do your researches efficiently, probably won't be in lab for another year or so

[atomic abyss]

no

[golden yew]

Nah it's fine. I wanted to get 2 Hindy guns to get her into the full damage dealer form, and now I am only thinking about making more UR CL guns or Tenrais.

[whole crypt]

well efficiently inlcudes getting enough of those then going back to PR5

Tenrai you're probably fine with 2, hindenburg gun maybe 2

[spice phoenix]

super heavy or type 1 with FCR?

[whole crypt]

usually Type-1 + HPRCR

[spice phoenix]

k thanks

[sharp socket]

do i have to clear every map node in opsi

[kind slate]

where can i test if my timings are working correctly?

[sharp socket]

for the adapts

[whole crypt]

did you buy logger

[sharp socket]

currently at 160/160/95

[whole crypt]

CM

[sharp socket]

yes

[whole crypt]

if you bought logger all of the first clear adapts are already awarded, you have to repeat secured zones for more adapts
explorable zones may or may not have tuning nodes

[sharp socket]

wait no 155/162/119

i need 200/200/150 right before i start hitting strongholds

[whole crypt]

188/188/144

203/203 is for arbiter

[sharp socket]

does repeating clear of c5 nodes give more adapts

[whole crypt]

any secured zone

[sharp socket]

is there a way to only see c5 and c6 zones

or do i gotta remember all of them

[whole crypt]

they're not hard to remember, 5/6 are all middle or corner of world map

[spice phoenix]

best BB for mob fleet?

[potent slate]

hows she

[whole crypt]

depends

mediocre

[strong tartan]

she's doing fine thanks for asking

[kind slate]

is it fine to use uvh off-flag + 2 cv for opsi mob fleet?
or do i want a bb in flag

[potent slate]

thats good to hear

[whole crypt]

also you can ask by typing the ship's name out there's no need to post the pic

[spice phoenix]

(i’m running with uni and perseus)

[sharp socket]

also whats the difference between coordinate logger and siren coordinate logger

[whole crypt]

pretty mediocre BB

[potent slate]

have no idea what any of that means

[whole crypt]

can you not give a stupid answer when people are asking if a ship is good

[potent slate]

oh okay im just better with visuals then names

[atomic abyss]

haya please

[tame jungle]

Former is the hidden zones and the latter is the siren mini boss fights

[strong tartan]

my bad sorry

[whole crypt]

please don't run Unicorn with Perseus
what map is this for

[atomic abyss]

firstly, why are you running both of them together?
you're making them worse

[sharp socket]

is the latter better or are both equal in their drops

[tame jungle]

You wanna do both

[atomic abyss]

you could even go 3x CV

[kind slate]

Can i use Ulrich von Hutten in the non-flagship position in opsi mobbing fleet with uni and volga?

[tame jungle]

Also that information is on wiki :3

[potent slate]

I thought it was funny *wink

[atomic abyss]

opsi mobbing is straightforward enough that it's usually better to have 3 backliners that attack at different times

[sharp socket]

ive been grinding for 6 hours already and i wanna use my time more efficiently

[atomic abyss]

you could go uvh yes

[tame jungle]

You still have until the end of the month bruh

[atomic abyss]

you have the entire month to do them...

[sharp socket]

no i will not touch grass, the wyvern aint gonna farm itself

[potent slate]

speak english please

[kind slate]

Would she be fine off-flag for the reduced rld?

[tame jungle]

Oh yeah if you want mats do the siren coords

[kind slate]

Is my grammar that bad?

[atomic abyss]

no

[sharp socket]

alr ty

[strong tartan]

no they're terms they don't understand yet

[atomic abyss]

^

[potent slate]

I dont know this games jargon

[atomic abyss]

and so you don't need to bother with that jargon yet

[potent slate]

only been playing for 4 days of now

[atomic abyss]

you are far too early to worry about those stuff

[tame jungle]

Then don’t butt in in the question if you have no clue what you’re talking about

[atomic abyss]

^

[whole crypt]

you can mob OS with this

[kind slate]

oh right. I thought my grammar and communication skills just died

[tame jungle]

Needless clutter when this channel is active by people seeking help and that makes me sad :(

[strong tartan]

just to save you some time non flag = right or left side of the back line and flagship = the middle of the formation

[potent slate]

no those fired on all cylinders just fine just need time to learn the terms

[potent slate]

ok ill try to remeber that

[sharp socket]

r6 siren coordinate logger is abyssal level right

[strong tartan]

those terms also mostly don't apply to your vanguard formation fyi

[potent slate]

vanguard formation?

[strong tartan]

the front

[atomic abyss]

vanguard = frontline

[potent slate]

got it

[sacred iris]

Is there a fastest mob clear team in op siren?

[potent slate]

but there are diffrent types of vanguards though right?

[sharp socket]

theres the ship named vanguard that is in the backline

[potent slate]

and are there benefits to runing ships of the same dominoion togeather?

[atomic abyss]

same faction? usually no

[potent slate]

I mean class I guess is the word im looking for

[atomic abyss]

not worth to run faction fleets in this game

[strong tartan]

faction? Some ships buff other ships from their respective faction but it isn't recommended to make a fleet for that

most especially older faction buffing ships are very dated and mediocre-bad

[kind slate]

Is this fine? I altered it a bit after managing to sync

[spice phoenix]

should i run independence with uni or perseus

[blazing shale]

Uni

[strong tartan]

I run uni + indep

[atomic abyss]

uni kai chise indep kai/aquila iirc

[sacred iris]

Who is kai

[tranquil saffron]

Does Harbin need to be run with any specific ships?

[warm flax]

Chise from gridman?

[atomic abyss]

uni kai = unicorn retro

[strong tartan]

no

[sacred iris]

[atomic abyss]

harbin herself does not

[potent slate]

also Bereerus seems quite good

[golden yew]

Very fast question and hope I dont disturb any conversation too much, when it comes to a vanguard tank, for a IJN fleet, what would work better? Unzen or Azuma? Been having this question since I got Unzen but cant really decide.

[strong tartan]

sorry who is that

[atomic abyss]

brennus

and no she is just an expensive portland retrofit
stick to portland

[whole crypt]

Unzen is not a tank

[snow coral]

bearn m should be there too now right?

[atomic abyss]

in a vacuum, azuma
but unzen allows you to end battles faster

[spice phoenix]

should i bother running sovetsky with another np ship?

[atomic abyss]

yes, and impero works too

no need to

[blazing shale]

No

[sharp socket]

soyuz is strong on her own

[whole crypt]

does IJN even have any "real tanks" besides Azuma and Chikuma

[kind slate]

Are the bb and cv fleets fine? Mainly in terms of vanguard

[potent slate]

I like the comfort from her dmg negation when she has her swords up from shells

[half plover]

how can we get meta bearn crystals after the event ends and how hard will it be to get 2?

[golden yew]

Hm, allright. Azuma it is. Thanks!

[atomic abyss]

and portland does it just as well despite costing way less resources

[tranquil saffron]

Not really you'll just have to wait a bit for them to come to the meta shop

[rapid grail]

B3/D3
And you are at the mercy of RNG

oh, you mean the crystals

[tranquil saffron]

Wait brain malfunction I didn't read that correctly

[half plover]

yeah, so it would make sense to grind 4k points extra this event to mlb meta bearn?

[rapid grail]

idk lol, just buy the crystals before the shop goes away and you don't have to deal with that problem

[whole crypt]

not really, meta shop is easier

[tranquil saffron]

It's not a big deal if you don't get all 4

[whole crypt]

and last two gacha METAs didn't take very long for crystals to go to shop

[half plover]

oh good, so I can buy blueprints instead haha. thanks

[potent slate]

I get that its more reasources but how is she just an sr portland?

[strong tartan]

tank

[atomic abyss]

she tanks worse than portland
but has slightly more damage

that's literally all

all while costing gold bulins

which are extremely limited for new players

[whole crypt]

are we sure she's less durable than Portland?

[atomic abyss]

ehp says lower at least

[whole crypt]

what's her eHP

[atomic abyss]

the major difference is that she dpses more
so in theory she won't need to tank as much

[whole crypt]

so basically Portland

[potent slate]

Ialso just got multiple copys of her from rolling for Alsace

[atomic abyss]

and you need to invest in portland for the rookie missions anyways

[potent slate]

I am she is in my dorm

[atomic abyss]

so might as well invest in something cheaper and more beneficial

you can invest in brennus later when you need a second fleet

[fresh tangle]

For research pr ships should I just be developing something constantly if I don’t particularly care about say mlb saint louis?

[potent slate]

and once she is lvl 70 I can max mlb her

[snow coral]

Won't he need 2 tanks anyways? If just starting off, think brennus is fine

[atomic abyss]

not immediately, no

[potent slate]

also portland could go on my second fleet that I need

[tranquil hemlock]

Can i get this outside the event shop?

[atomic abyss]

you won't need a second fleet for a while though

no you cannot

[strong tartan]

no

[inland wharf]

Just pulled a 2nd alasce on event banner, is she really just a glorified bulin to feed to my main alasce or is there a reasom to keep the 2nd one?

[spice phoenix]

should i invest in friedrich carl? (tank build)

[atomic abyss]

glorified bulin

[tranquil saffron]

No, once you've got Mog that should be your priority

[atomic abyss]

if you're lacking tanks, sure

[inland wharf]

Alr ty

[tranquil hemlock]

So i will need to wait for 2 years for this to rerun?

[potent slate]

well in hard 3-4 I need 2

[strong tartan]

yeah

[atomic abyss]

you don't

if you do, it is nothing that can't be fixed with more levels

[strong tartan]

you still have until Thursday to get it so unless if you really can't get it within that timespan then yeah 2 years wait

[potent slate]

then why am I not allowed to start it with my team in the fleet section?

[half plover]

start building your second fleet slowly at chapter9-1, but before that it is just a waste of oil

[spice phoenix]

which ships are good tanks? (late game only)

[atomic abyss]

because you don't fulfil the stat requirements

[half plover]

I feel like even tho people dont need a second fleet for chapter10 or 11 it is still better to prepare because I really needed 2 fleets for events

[atomic abyss]

agir, guam, brest, anchorage, kronshtadt

[potent slate]

I see

[atomic abyss]

honourable mention to Laffey II

[tranquil saffron]

Dang is she that good of a tank?

[spice phoenix]

no more azuma?

[strong tartan]

yes

[fresh tangle]

Should I just develop/mlb pr1 ships as I’m nowhere near the requirements for pr2 particularly the recommended kitakaze?

[atomic abyss]

yes laff is that good of a tank
azuma just isn't nearly as good as them

[crisp estuary]

Kitkat is not recommended anymore, no? Start with Roon if you need more fleet tech for FdG

[atomic abyss]

she is a good tank
she doesn't bring anything ELSE to the table

[spice phoenix]

her fiercer when cornered skill does wonders

[fresh tangle]

Oh I’m looking at the Sam heart stuff it says kit. Was thinking I abandon saint Louis where she is and start developing roon as you say to start getting fleet tech points where I can

[tranquil saffron]

What are some good guns for Laffey II?

[potent slate]

is Bristol any good

[atomic abyss]

the rainbow gun in the event shop

[tranquil saffron]

Already in use

[atomic abyss]

incredibly niche
as a new player
just stick to your frontline of portland, starter, helena

[crisp estuary]

Oh. I did not know Sam recommends Kitkat. She's still very good but I thought the current guides tell players to go FdG and PR4.

[potent slate]

basically what im using

[atomic abyss]

yes

[fresh tangle]

Sam does say anchorage and fdg but they acknowledge they’re not a realistic first target

[atomic abyss]

tech is the issue

[atomic abyss]

twin 135/128/130 then

assuming you don't have the 100kai

[fresh tangle]

100% so my question is should I abandon saint Louis and current dev level and just unlock the likes of roon/neptune etc

[whole crypt]

fleets settling into something like this

[atomic abyss]

considering louis' iris faction tech will be useful for brest later
just finish her up first before doing roon

assuming you can't do fdg

[fresh tangle]

Alright thanks I’ll get her to 30 dev then reevaluate. I’m nowhere near fdg

[atomic abyss]

try not to spend too much coins tho

[fresh tangle]

148/630

[atomic abyss]

(i mean on louis)

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I’ll just use the free upgrade I get every day. Still got plenty of other more immediately impactful things to do yeah

[spice phoenix]

flapjacks or tigercat? flapjack right?

[fresh tangle]

I’ve been mlb’ing EU ships tbh but maybe I should switch to BT?

[atomic abyss]

flapjacks yes

[cobalt rapids]

why isnt uvh oathed

[whole crypt]

why would I oath UvH

her timings are awkward anyway

[fresh tangle]

Blood tech to get FDG

[whole crypt]

if you told me Wichita will need her oathed timings I'll consider

Ironblood*

[atomic abyss]

we call that IB tech

[spice phoenix]

which PRs are priority?

[atomic abyss]

FDG > Anchorage > Agir > All other PR4 > Plymouth

[whole crypt]

the first ship is usually just any PR1 ship you can actually do
next will usually be Anchorage, followed by Agir/Plymouth depending on how you're doing with tech

[fresh tangle]

Yeah that’s why I was doing EU as it’s the easiest to get and anchorage seems a fantastic tank upgrade

[whole crypt]

FdG is fairly high on the list but getting enough tech for her takes a while

[half plover]

anch is really unrealistic since it takes forever to get enough EU tech, I got roon, FdG, AvP and half ruppy first before even getting enough tech for anch 😭

[atomic abyss]

it's not

[half plover]

saint louis was my first devship

[whole crypt]

Eagle Union tech is literally one of the easiest to unlock

[atomic abyss]

you get a shit ton of US ships from story lol

[fresh tangle]

How did you get fdg before the EU tech 😂

[atomic abyss]

to get that many IB
you either started out with an IB event
or went out of your way to grind divergent chessboard

[whole crypt]

3/5 of the "starter fleet" rec is USS ships

[half plover]

because IB gives twice as many tech points than eu. and even tho there are tons of EU ships, most are just common or blue next to elite, and it takes 750 tech points total

[fresh tangle]

EU and HMS are bountiful

[atomic abyss]

this is a bit of a skill issue ngl

[whole crypt]

yeh but KMS ships don't fall from the sky compared to USS

there's also a whole bunch of USS ships you want to raise for collection

beaver badge, EDC

[half plover]

yeah I grinded a little bit chessboard to get the ships and bought some from guild shop, but I don't think it postponed my EU tech at all

maybe just skill issue but it took that many ships to unlock anch like 3 days ago

[fresh tangle]

120 penny plz

[whole crypt]

yeh but those are all easy to get ships

it might feel like more effort because you need to level and LB more of them but they're really easy to get

[half plover]

IB was just way easier and I really overkilled the tech requirement with these 120 levels

[whole crypt]

also that doesn't look like enough for beaver badge or EDC

I mean... you have 3 lv120+ SR ships there

and all large hulls

[half plover]

I have 1000 IB tech points at this point, I think FdG took like 600 or so I cant remember

but yeah mlbing a lot of ships is hard as a new player and all I did was just running an IB main fleet, so maybe if I postponed FdG grind which wasnt recommended probably I could have gotten to anch a few weeks earlier

but nothing crazy

[whole crypt]

well strasser and Bismarck should be accounting for a fair bit of your IB tech and you don't usually just get them at a whim

[half plover]

I got bismarck from medal shop for FdG grind and strasser was just a rng pull

[whole crypt]

yeh that's the thing, you got a bit lucky there with the pull

[half plover]

I mean there is still tripitz in the shop but that would mean waiting a whole month worst case for the shop refresh or more bc I dont know the rotation

[whole crypt]

getting NorCal or Washington would have also helped your USS tech similarly

[half plover]

I got them

I got a lot of ships just for tech points

[whole crypt]

yes but not leveling and LBing them is part of the disparity

[half plover]

yeah true but at the same time it takes a lot of exp packs and even gold bulins

[whole crypt]

just trying to show you why you have enough KMS tech but not for Anchorage

[half plover]

ah yeah that's fair

I just thought getting to FdG is way easier than getting enough tech for anch since IB gives literally twice as many and is easier to grind

how good is flandre btw?

[tranquil hemlock]

What should i pick for mogador

[half plover]

I could unlock her requirements by mlbing mogador over kron

[hard mesa]

downgrade alsace

[whole crypt]

Flandre is a SR Alsace

[whole crypt]

don't bother with augments too early in the game

[half plover]

so since I got enough tech for EU now maybe she would be a good next target, right? I saw a lot of people use her today lmao

[cobalt rapids]

D0 ships are useless

[whole crypt]

Shimanto just happens to be a great ship for 13H and 15

[whole relic]

do fleets like this still get used for clearing low level stuff? (cant remember who's supposed to be on saratoga's spot)

[cobalt rapids]

No

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[cobalt rapids]

Fletcher, terror and low costing is outdated and certainly not all together

[whole relic]

i see, then how does one save oil for low level stuff now

[tranquil hemlock]

How do i use those cat then?

[whole crypt]

you kind of don't, you just push for ch9 ASAP

[whole relic]

im chapter 11

[sharp socket]

are the electronic components rarer than all other gear mats

[whole crypt]

then you just grind with oil cap, low costing is dead

[cobalt rapids]

Then u 1:1 it if needed

[whole relic]

i just wanna do some of the war archive stuff for charles ausburne

[whole crypt]

go to the formation there's 2 slots to put the cats in

[whole relic]

plus the early parts of event stages

[whole crypt]

Charles Ausburne drops in 9-1 why do it in archive

[whole relic]

1:1? like unicorn+???

[half plover]

unicorn + laffey

[whole crypt]

or if you want to super low cost just 0LB CVL/Mahan in 3-2

[cobalt rapids]

1:1 with uni:ddg or ranger:mahan depending on diff

[whole relic]

oh yeah, so then low cost fleet for 9-1, is it just 1:1?

[whole crypt]

9-1 has cap

[cobalt rapids]

Dont lowcost oilcaps

[sharp socket]

oilcap dont low cost

[whole crypt]

if you want to low cost go 0LB CVL/Mahan in 3-2

[whole relic]

oh i thought oilcap was at chap 11

[whole crypt]

11 is XP bump, but the cap starts at 9

[whole relic]

ah

[cobalt rapids]

It starts on 9 on cleared stages

[whole relic]

actually would it be better to farm for charles ausburne or just lmb all the fletcher dds with datapacks

[whole crypt]

iirc you'll still need ausburne for beaver badge

[whole relic]

4+4+4+5, should be 17

[whole crypt]

what's the req again

[whole relic]

17

fletcher class model is 22

[whole crypt]

you could go for it I guess, you'll want ausburne eventually either way

[whole relic]

oh how come?

[sharp socket]

do i get anything for diversifying what c5 nodes i clear or can i just repeat 2 nodes 10 times each

[whole crypt]

well if you don't care about collection tech then maybe not

[sharp socket]

what is that

[whole crypt]

there's no difference which C5 you do

[sharp socket]

is it the stars

[whole crypt]

I was replying to guy above you

[sharp socket]

ah

[whole crypt]

if you want to do stars you repeat what you want

[sharp socket]

ok so ill just hit the node until i get the stars then change node

[whole crypt]

depends on what the remaining exploration goals are, they're different from zone to zone
some of them can only be done on explorable because they need promoted pawns

[sharp socket]

what the hell is a promoted pawn

[burnt basin]

is there a chance that the shinano bikini skin will re-run soon?

[whole crypt]

when you do the explorable version of a zone there are some "boss" nodes with the special mods on them those are promoted pawns

[atomic abyss]

EN anniversary

[burnt basin]

fook

[sharp socket]

uh alright i never noticed because i just auto everything thats not stronghold

[whole crypt]

some of the exploration stars count promoted pawn kills specifically, some of them requires you to clear stuff that only spawns after killing a promoted pawn

the ones you can just repeat are usually for siren devices and mysterious merchant, but you'll need to turn on the interrupt to actually interact with them if they spawn

[sharp socket]

yeah i do that sometimes

[whole crypt]

also the anomalous zones are just the tuning tiles that spawn in every secured zone

so those you can just plainly repeat

[sharp socket]

auto finds them for me yea

[whole crypt]

for reference it took me about 1 year and 11 months to fill up all 360 stars and I think I was one of the earliest back then

and that was going into OS from launch with established fleets

[sharp socket]

jesus christ

im not a completionist anyway

[whole crypt]

well there's no special rewards for 360 and the final stars tend to be pretty meh rewards by the time you get there

[sharp socket]

alr also how long does it usually take to get my first wyvern

[whole crypt]

at least 2-3 months for the design plans but maybe longer for the materials otherwise

can change greatly depending on whether you've unlocked lv95 box raid

[sharp socket]

hmm alr yea the design plans take a while

whats that one

[whole crypt]

highest level version of tech box raid, drops OS materials as well

[sharp socket]

im at player lv 94 and halfway through

[whole crypt]

if you have that unlocked OS materials will accumulate significantly faster

[sharp socket]

ill get on spending more oil then

[sharp socket]

oh that looks really good

[whole crypt]

it's not a lot per run but 9 each week adds up alongside OS

[muted barn]

i want to ask can i get rodney meta after the event end?

i seems like not enough time to get her alr

[atomic abyss]

not for the time being

she will be permanently added to dossier later

[muted barn]

sed

so maybe future someday?

[inland shoal]

Not maybe

The question is just when

[whole crypt]

somewhere 2 year from now

[muted barn]

is it possible for me now to grind for her?

i got 47% alr

i try to play the mode but it just too out of the daily main gameplay

[atomic abyss]

don't think so

[lament bay]

can friedrich carl face tank comfortably?

[atomic abyss]

assuming she's geared right

yes

very well even

[inland shoal]

I mean you might be able to get her, but you need to get 25k points or she'll be useless

[muted barn]

but shes my wife

[lament bay]

idk feels weird to put her in front over others like agir, in the same fleet unless that means i should use someone else than agir

[tame jungle]

when you get those siren constructs where you get a choice between spawning an enemy or a resource node, which one is more worth it?

[atomic abyss]

Use them in different fleets then
Agir is the best tank in the game so

[lament bay]

ah i misremembered

i have friedrich carl in cheshire/kala ideas fleet

i should prob change them a bit instead of using guam and drake on the mob fleet

[sharp token]

how can i access to dossier?

[tame jungle]

meta boss?

[sharp token]

the hard one?

[tame jungle]

no i mean what do you mean, what dossier

[sharp token]

yes

[tame jungle]

both current and archive you can access by playing operation siren and collecting the little ipads

[atomic abyss]

It's under meta showdown

[tame jungle]

meta showdown button is in main menu pull-out tab or operation siren overview under a button on the bottom right

[tiny kettle]

i got 344/366 dock space, out of which about 30 are bulins/dupes. should i buy more dock space or should i save gems for 5th dorm slot?

[sharp token]

save it, mlb dupes

[tiny kettle]

alright, thanks

[atomic abyss]

Well yeah I'd use most of the dupes up

But 5th dorm slot is approaching whale territory

[sharp token]

i mean i don't have access, is there something i need to do to unlock this?

[atomic abyss]

It's not very intuitive
But you need to tap on the one you want to start

Tap the "dossier unlocked"

[tiny kettle]

i can't on some of them. i have a dupe for warspite which is mlb. im saving it for when i eventually retrofit her (not happening anytime soon) and takao. im waiting for second takao cus i dont want to waste a bulin on her

[tawdry sluice]

I'm supposed to stick with pr4 even after maxing out all the ships?

[tiny kettle]

is it unnecessary for f2p?

[atomic abyss]

F2ps are suggested not to go past 3 even

Why? Because you have the 2nd floor

The 2nd floor costs iirc 500 gems
Doubles the available dorm slots

Admittedly, the top floor does not give exp
But it restores morale faster

[atomic abyss]

Max as in... Dev 30 or FS5?

[tawdry sluice]

Fs5

[tiny kettle]

oh then what's left? if i have enough dorm space and dock space then what should i buy next as a f2p?

[atomic abyss]

Have you gotten 2 tenrais?

[tawdry sluice]

Only have 1, 31/50 for the next

[hallow iron]

For corrosion level 4 in opsi, what level is the enemy fleet?

[tame jungle]

that's on wiki

but i'll do you a favor and just tell you it's 92-98 ;3

[hallow iron]

Thanksss, I actually like it when u show me where to search for the info myself, less need to keep asking here lol

[atomic abyss]

Well here's my stance
If you feel like you're gonna collect more stuff
Go for the dock space

Otherwise dorm
Or you could save it for later

[sharp token]

so it's been there all along

[plain saffron]

same energy as "Result found."

[atomic abyss]

Well you have the option of sticking around for the 2nd Tenrai
With that said, maybe consider getting the one in the protocore shop first (if you haven't) and then move to Plymouth

[tawdry sluice]

That's the one I have currently

[atomic abyss]

Then you have the choice

[tropic tusk]

is G-531 the best choice here?

[whole crypt]

H works too if you're still building the ships

[vocal sigil]

I'm gonna be developing marco polo soon and i want to grind exp through sardegna empire units, which ones should i prioritize?

[whole crypt]

Aquila good

[tame jungle]

first stage you can use iron bloods, second stage you can also use royal navy ships

[wind hazel]

probably better take this chance and raise aquila, 2 birds 1 stone

giulio if you want the lv120 hit tech

but optional, would prioritize aquila

[vocal sigil]

thanks, i'm gonna level aquila with avp and giulio then

[whole crypt]

keep in mind CDC 2 is not KMS

[tame jungle]

you might wanna swap out avp for a healer tho

(or see if you can grind D3 without one if you're still missing event pts)

[tropic tusk]

I'm too poor for that thx anyway

[uneven cave]

Aquila is a healer

[tame jungle]

oh shit really?

[uneven cave]

And you don’t need a healer for PR farming

[tame jungle]

that's what i get for not playing for 4 years, my bad

[uneven cave]

You can choose between healer or preload cv

[vocal sigil]

i plan on doing it through d3 for now since i'm at 65k and no bearn drops, gonna need a few more points than i anticipated for crystals

[whole crypt]

crystals will probably be easier to wait for meta shop

[golden moth]

Is the rerun announced a sign that vanny will be soon rerun..hmm just curious

And also how to grind more gems ..thankss

[plain saffron]

what's permanent, not rerun

iirc there's no rerun mentioned in for future content in JP patch notes

[golden moth]

Ohh i see..thanks..i see now that foch event will be added on wa..and cleaveland skin is the rerun..thanks...

Ohh hmm well ig i need to wait on the further announcement

[half plover]

what is the max tuning limit again for bonuses?

is it 203/203/156?

[worldly pewter]

that is for the arbiter

[half plover]

yeah

I think I overkilled it with tactics 208 already

[summer prism]

is it worth it to farm hydraulic steer in wa?

[normal crane]

What kind of gear worth leveling above level 10?

[zinc turret]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[worldly pewter]

farming gear is something that is done very rarely in this game

[zinc turret]

the drop rate suck

[worldly pewter]

yeah not to mention blue gear is very easy to get from purple boxes

[old zodiac]

should i MLB richelieu?

[strange sphinx]

what's the name again of that Blue Dual rotor fighter airplane

[hallow iron]

I just realise something... the discount/free attempt at coining for shipyard didnt reset at the server reset time??

[worldly pewter]

u don't have many choices, want fp tech ? go ahead

[old zodiac]

fp tech?

[worldly pewter]

firepower

[old zodiac]

alr ty

[zinc turret]

yea

kinda like cat u get some free and discount everyday

[worldly pewter]

i think it is across all regions
4h after the reset

[summer prism]

blue? im talking abt the gold one tho

[hallow iron]

But it reset at a different time than server reset right?

Cause I use almost 20k gokd during the server reset didn't pay attention wether it's discount or free... Suddenly I see that's it's free right now

Meaning I waste so much gold on reset omg

[undone plover]

Also make sure you logout after it resets
If u are still logged in the discount bugs and wont apply either

[zinc turret]

basically this

[undone plover]

Happened to the best of us

[worldly pewter]

i don't know about this new golden hydraulic steer then

[hallow iron]

Yeah I was doing pr ship... Pretty sure it cost 1500 each at that time... I'm so dum I should have pay attention

Lesson learn also thanks

[atomic abyss]

Not worth

[worldly pewter]

oh i think he meant the rudder then since it drops from a D3 map
yeah that is even worse then since the prints are easily obtainable from the research

[atomic abyss]

Not worth farming gold rudder in WA for sure

[zinc turret]

what wa worth to farm then ?

[atomic abyss]

You only farm divergent chessboard for IB tech

And that's all

[zinc turret]

i never farm wa yet even my ticket 60 cuz i spam event right now

[atomic abyss]

War Archives just isn't a very good feature

[zinc turret]

[atomic abyss]

The exp is event tier
So low

With that said, it's pretty worth for new players

[undone plover]

Ignore WA unless u have a reason to do it and early on u dont have much reason unless u want to rush FdG/AvP

[eternal basalt]

Story nerds like me: What?

[worldly pewter]

wa for someone like me gained me an early access to oil cap maps

[stone sluice]

I just did it for the high heels auxiliary 👠

[undone plover]

Yeah that is fine tbh. But u can do that later as well. I just mean dont worry if u cap the tickets

[thorny laurel]

How do you change your battle support in guild operations?

[undone plover]

U have to do it before the boss spawns.

[thorny laurel]

Ok thx

[sacred silo]

Who should I get from core shop

[modern cloud]

When I can start crafting Augments who do you generally start out with? A certain position or ship?

[jaunty vault]

which core shop

[jaunty vault]

start out with ships that have their own unique augments and that make a significant impact on your gameplay, like hood

[sacred silo]

Core data

[jaunty vault]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[jaunty vault]

play around with /tags in bot spam

[modern cloud]

Thanks, I have Hood so that helps. 😄

[jaunty vault]

[rose cosmos]

Where do I buy more supplies btw

[eternal basalt]

Dorm

[jaunty vault]

in dorm

click on supplies
click on + on any supply
never buy supplies with gems

[whole crypt]

buying food costs oil and there's no particular penalty for not having food besides lower passive XP

[silk helm]

is it worth to push for the tech boxes for the event? currently at 75k. will probably go for the 80k one

[forest palm]

would you need anything from said boxes?

[thin anvil]

recently got her, what should i do with her now?

[silk helm]

i don't rlly have good gear so probably

[sharp token]

marry

[thin anvil]

real

[forest palm]

go for it then

[sacred silo]

How does one get sailing frigate gear

[tiny abyss]

around what dev level can you start reasonably using lab ships

say, for like opsi or world 13+

[whole crypt]

30

[forest palm]

if you're just trying to level the ship whatever dev level works, otherwise the standard is 30

[worldly pewter]

she will most likely remain at 3★ for a long time in ur dock if u want to prioritize the gacha ships first

[spice phoenix]

is tashkent good?

[whole crypt]

decent

[sharp token]

if you have spare UR bullins MLB but not recommending to prioritize her over some UR that is worth the bullin, if there's no other UR around there you go

[worldly pewter]

isn't kashkent the strongest gun DD outside of the ddg ?

[whole crypt]

moggies sends her regards

[sharp token]

but moggy is good (at flirting)

[worldly pewter]

mogador is UR

[forest palm]

iirc you can get Royal Fortune...but there's not much use for them, no practical content use case, and most all of them are limited

[atomic rock]

Not really a gameplay related question, but where do I find voice lines that have yet to be added to the wiki?

[hard mesa]

Memento

[sacred silo]

Is there any way to get gear for them tho or do u just use the gear they come with

[atomic rock]

Could u provide the link please

[thin anvil]

(MOG)ador

[whole crypt]

shit gear Perseus or repair ship for third ship

[meager gyro]

why are stronghold rewards so ass?

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with stronghold rewards

[meager gyro]

this

[spice phoenix]

is ognevoy worth it? (i’m thinking about running her with sovetsky)

[cobalt rapids]

worth it depends on ur dock

[spice phoenix]

what does this mean 😭😭😭

[cobalt rapids]

it means the question is too vague

[spice phoenix]

how about this:

should i run sovetsky with or without ognevoy

[forest palm]

they released gear the last wave of Frigates, but most of all of it is limited

[cobalt rapids]

neither needs one another

[spice phoenix]

thanks

is sovetsky better for bossing or mob fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

both

[keen comet]

Should I leave it at +12 or is my Saiun Kai already good?

[hard mesa]

You can view them in game.Go to dock and choose ship you want, then tap archive, after that tap detail

[whole crypt]

if you're going to use it take it +13, leaving it at 12 is just wasting plates

[cobalt rapids]

consult /plus13 for +13 worthy gear
always do one at a time

[keen comet]

I have 2 of these on +10 right now

[whole crypt]

enhance them one at a time
if you enhance gear past +10 take them to 13 or don't do it at all

[keen comet]

Noted

[whole crypt]

what's a good third main ship if I don't want it to do much damage but provide some sort of support

[cobalt rapids]

specifically ?

[whole crypt]

I'm thinking maybe heals but that'll depend on whether the vanguard survives without heals

[worldly pewter]

i think nagato was used as a support in rodney

[cobalt rapids]

volga with scuffed planes depending how much less dmg u want her to deal ig

[whole crypt]

messerschmitt fulmar albacore?

[cobalt rapids]

ig

[whole crypt]

lemme take off the catapults to be safe

[plain saffron]

the problem is not the reward, the prob is he take 20+ fight to kill since yesterday

[whole crypt]

we already talked about that didn't we

[plain saffron]

[whole crypt]

I believe the conclusion is there's nothing wrong with stronghold rewards, just him taking too much effort to clear it when he's not really ready for it

[forest palm]

What is wrong with stronghold rewards indeed

[modern cloud]

What does this do/for?

[south sequoia]

Memento

[keen sable]

reminder of your life choices

[south sequoia]

It's only there for remembrance, think of it as a trophy

[forest palm]

that's all it really is

[modern cloud]

So it just sits in my Depot? Dang LOL Thanks

[forest palm]

not like it takes up space

[keen sable]

it's not in the gear depot. so just visual space

[fresh tangle]

Apart from bearn meta being a decent mobbing ship is there anything worth putting bulins into here? Illustrious seems useful

[wind hazel]

lusty can wait, but otherwise save your bulin

[undone plover]

Some decent but not worth the bulins imo. Save for later.
Do u need to change sth in your fleet?

[fresh tangle]

My vanguard on SP is still iffy. I’m 2/3 so it’s still inconsistent

[undone plover]

If it clears then it is fine. levels and gear will help more than levelling a new ship for SP specifically

[fresh tangle]

Failed today which is awkward as I’ve gotten levels and some gear but hey the life of auto combat 😂

[undone plover]

Even I failed it a few times this event trying to find a low oil setup. Make sure u have the correct gear and formation.

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I think I need to sit down and get properly acquainted with what gear goes where

[undone plover]

Check out sam’s equipment guide. More than enough for gearing your ships properly.
Do /equip in #bot-spam
Ofc if u want to double check your setup or understand gear better u can ask here.

[half plover]

how can I beat this if it kills all my fleets and constantly heals up to 44 bars again lmmao

[inner delta]

you can go heal back to port

[half plover]

yeah, but I can beat it up to lets say 30bars, it heals up to 44 again and kills my fleet

[inner delta]

if you still can't then you won't be able to beat it, since you need to burst it down

that's the only way to kill self healing siren

[half plover]

yeah seems like I need better gear or better ships somehow

[undone plover]

U can get a carrier fleet and save your airstrikes. Nuke it with 6/6 airstrikes when it is low enough but before it starts healing and hope it is enough damage

[tame jungle]

The burst heal thing is a bit of a pain to deal with yeah, only way is to do hella damage unfortunately

[tranquil saffron]

Failed 14-2 boss what do I do

Nano died incredibly fast

[plain saffron]

mixed fleet

[viscid swift]

Build a dedicated boss fleet for W14 rather than reusing an OPsi fleet

[tranquil saffron]

That's an opsi fleet?

[undone plover]

14 has a lot of suicide boats and u need a good BB in flag to intercept.

[viscid swift]

yes...

[tranquil saffron]

What should I change?

[viscid swift]

drop one of the CVs for a BB, and Kazagumo and Sirius

[tranquil saffron]

How about this?

[viscid swift]

not Helena, and you can probably do better than NJ

[rapid grail]

Plymouth is good

[tranquil saffron]

I've been incredibly unlucky with UR BBs

FDG is being a big help for mob fleet

[tranquil hemlock]

helena and hood who should i raise first?

[eager mulch]

hood

[viscid swift]

I'd take flag UvH over NJ

[undone plover]

UvH with 155kai prolly better than NJ with dd gun in 14

[tranquil saffron]

Should I keep kaza on for Haku buff?

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't
Stack another tank with Guam and Plymouth and you are golden

[tranquil saffron]

Ok thanks

[worldly pewter]

is there a confliction in raising both of them simultaneously ?

[strange sphinx]

Finally I have Alsace, now How I will builf her?

[crimson glacier]

the same basic gears like practically all BBs

[astral canyon]

Can’t seem to defeat the boss (hard mode) any suggestions?

My gear is all at least +10 some have full +13

Also I had heard from Kimocheese that NJ may be bad now?(old)

[viscid swift]

well both your fleets suck for bossing whicever you're actually using

[nova halo]

NJ still strong tho

[strange sphinx]

Wait, does Alsace boss or nobor versatility?

[viscid swift]

she can do both just fine

[nova halo]

both

[strange sphinx]

Hmmm so what gun?

[viscid swift]

same guns as any other BB in certain scenarios

[nova halo]

slaimuda doesn't update anything recently, are they ded?

[cobalt rapids]

ask in their server

[nova halo]

kay

[undone plover]

What is the longest dead week in recent years?

[viscid swift]

depends on how you define a dead week

[undone plover]

Non banner event ig

[plain saffron]

can we visit friend floor 2 before the dorm UI update?

[viscid swift]

3 weeks a few times last year

[strange sphinx]

good for Gun or should I use the one Amagi using

[viscid swift]

that's fine

the fact you only have one Mk6 is a bit disturbing though

[strange sphinx]

[jolly bison]

they modified some descriptions about guns that you can now build in gear labs, so they are still active, but yeah, I was wondering about that too
that'd be a shame

[crisp estuary]

[meager gyro]

is this ok as poverty?

[loud rover]

is hpfcr/white shell better nowadays then black/white shells?

[worldly pewter]

nope

[meager gyro]

what to change?

[worldly pewter]

everything but the main gun

[meager gyro]

hm

got nothing else

[worldly pewter]

open more boxes

[meager gyro]

dont have any and no luck

[tired condor]

u get +5 luck for fignerprint is that rlly worth it

[loud rover]

u referring to fate simulation in shipyard?

[viscid swift]

What?

[tired condor]

ye

[viscid swift]

Fate simulations also give skill upgrades

At FS5 and Fs3 for DRs

[tired condor]

for the Anchorage one it's the missile upgrade but I'm not using her for damage

I dont even think she'll do damage with that upgrade

[viscid swift]

They're torpedoes and you're right Anchorage's fate sim is negligible

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

Not all fate Sims are negligible and besides maxing Anchorage will knock her face researches from the pool until you max everyone from that season

[meager gyro]

i dont think i can achieve this

[loud rover]

everything there is pretty easy to get aside from the AA, but a purple quad bofor or roomba would be alright as transitional

[viscid swift]

I probably don't even wanna know but have you even made it past W10 yet

[meager gyro]

barely

[loud rover]

so ur in w11?

[meager gyro]

"pretty easy to get"

[meager gyro]

11-2

[loud rover]

aside from that specific AA gun, everything Taz put in for gear can be recieved from boxes

[soft raft]

nah you'd change the main gun too
CBs have a caliber requirement for one of their skills and none of the CA guns are able to meet that requirement

[loud rover]

judging by gear he most likely doesnt have an agir gun

[calm rose]

purple 283 works too

[meager gyro]

whats an ägir gun

[lament bay]

whats the best war archive stage to farm for quadruple magnetic (also do they make that big of a difference in dmg on CA/CBs or non-shimakaze dds?)

[soft raft]

welp that's completely on him for having not even 1 Agir gun despite having her at at least D20

[hollow gust]

How tf you do have a agir ready but not agir gun...

[meager gyro]

wtf even is that

[soft raft]

none of them
you either get them from gold german tech boxes or craft them in gear lab

[viscid swift]

Yeah don't farm for gear prints

[meager gyro]

doesnt say so in the name

[worldly pewter]

go to craft

[lament bay]

ah they are in the boxes? should i use all of the ones i have; only have 1 gold quadruple and 1 gold quintuple (which i think isnt worth using)

[soft raft]

that's because it's a nickname because no one wants to list out the whole name

[soft raft]

Yes
gold german tech boxes like I said

[loud rover]

its the gun agir uses when you press the "simulation" button in shipyard
hence; agir gun

[worldly pewter]

that is why u have to learn their conventional names

[meager gyro]

huh?

[calm rose]

its her main gun. that 305, it belongs to her

[viscid swift]

nope, that's not the reason
that's literally meant to be Agir's main gun

[soft raft]

TLDR/Dumbing down edition
It's the gun that she uses in World of Warships so to make referring to it alot easier, we call it "Agir Gun"

[lament bay]

how bad is the quintuple magnetic gold

[viscid swift]

look familiar?

[worldly pewter]

loses because of the speed

[soft raft]

barely any more damage in return for slightly longer reload compared to the quad

[meager gyro]

ok, now?

[kind needle]

Worth it?

[calm rose]

find the 305... i showed you?..

[loud rover]

good for w14 BB secondary

[viscid swift]

you'll want a pair for W14 so in time yes

[lament bay]

are they better than purple quadruple magnetic?

[viscid swift]

those are also garbage

[worldly pewter]

yeah go now and look for it,

[soft raft]

both are equally meh

[lament bay]

idk what else to use on auto

[silk sphinx]

T2 missiles blaster

[viscid swift]

Use these

[strange sphinx]

Do Alsace need to be sortied with some Iris or dominion Vanguard for her second skill for stack?

[worldly pewter]

u didn't make any of these right ?

[hollow gust]

Meh, she's a UR

[meager gyro]

dont think so

[lament bay]

i have 2 quadruple magnetic now and for the rest i just put these? have 4 but can craft more

[soft raft]

what does that have to do with German Quint mags

[calm rose]

then use these, make sure you get the "CB" ones. not the BB

[worldly pewter]

u didn't play during guam event or kronshtadt rerun ?

[meager gyro]

dont have

[viscid swift]

I'm gonna sound like a broken reccord at this rate but my guy
you don't need Agir to clear W12 nor should she be your focus right now

[meager gyro]

the what now?

[meager gyro]

using her for mainz xp

[kind needle]

Are they okay on cls like HelenaKai, YatSen, Mainz, Etc?

[viscid swift]

how many times have I said this now, clear W12 and get it down to safe then farm for XP

[sweet delta]

What are all torpedoes you have

[viscid swift]

it's also a good CL main gun yes

[worldly pewter]

k then just wait for prints until u can finish the gun.

[meager gyro]

im struggling with 11-2 already

[strange sphinx]

12-4 rn... still 50% wryyy oil

[kind needle]

What gears are safe to scrap?

[soft raft]

155 Kai is good for CL main gun slots and in W14, BB secondary slots as well

[viscid swift]

that's cause your gear sucks
and anyway W12 on safe is easier to farm than W11

[soft raft]

do /equip in #bot-spam, there's a link there for that

[rapid grail]

/equip (bottom link)

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[meager gyro]

still cant get to level 12

[viscid swift]

focus on imporiving your main fleet then than farming XP for useless PR ships right now
that you won't be able to use because you have no BPs for them

[meager gyro]

how am i supposed to improve my main fleet?

i got nothing

[viscid swift]

level them up to 120, enahnce their gear, level up their skills

[calm rose]

im getting a feeling of deja vu. like this happens everyday

[sweet delta]

Green > orange. If you got purple triple magnetics from boxes, don't scrap them

[strange sphinx]

Just don't rush

[viscid swift]

the solution to getting yourself unbricked right now is not to farm for PR ships

[meager gyro]

no mats to enhance gear

[viscid swift]

then farm more
you literally get coins and enhancement plates from farming stages

[strange sphinx]

hmmm need some improvements? boss fleet in 12-4

[calm rose]

yes you needa play the game to get mats to enhance gear. so just take it slowly. grind more

[lament bay]

never seen purple triple magnetic, are any of those torps worth to +12/+13?

[viscid swift]

that'll overkill if anything

[meager gyro]

didnt you just tell me to not farm level 11?

[viscid swift]

no, you can't even

[calm rose]

if thats the best you can do. just farm it.

[sweet delta]

Don't level 125 ships just steamroll 12 no matter the gear?

[viscid swift]

I told you not to farm XP for PR ships in W11
not to not level up the fleets you're gonna use to push

[plain saffron]

who's the other 1 ship

[strange sphinx]

Then farm in w10 if you can't clear any W11

[loud rover]

gold quad mags are the only torp worth going past +10, but it gets expensive so just stay at +10 for now

[viscid swift]

probably a retro

[calm rose]

colorado?

[lament bay]

ah i found the +13 priority

[soft raft]

prob Wichita META

[rapid grail]

niche-ass usage, and only on specific ships with a reason behind it
like Aegir's slow skill, Shimanto's burn removal, etc.

[boreal wagon]

it cant be wichita meta bc she isnt actually in the game files yet

[strange sphinx]

I mean They're already level 125 even in world 9

[soft raft]

[rapid grail]

it's a retrofit

[plain saffron]

ouh right retro, it show nothing if filter is on

[boreal wagon]

not obtained filter is useless for retros sadly

[silk sphinx]

Just filter by retrofit available in dock

[lament bay]

i have 7 torpedo gold design plans, should i use them for 2 more quadruple magnetic rops or for bidder sub torp?

[soft raft]

You'll be using the quad mags alot more than submarines though you'd want to make like 6 bidders at once point

[sweet delta]

Bidder assuming you have some decent sub

[lament bay]

i have the wolf pack

[sweet delta]

Like level 100+

Then bidders are far more impactful than quad mags

[lament bay]

yeah they are lv121 ish

[void turret]

finally done with beginner missions, do i pick illustrious or sandy(i have neither)

[sweet delta]

Better play opsi more often then

[meager gyro]

is this good?

[sweet delta]

What SR hull types cam you buy in the medal shop?

[rapid grail]

sandy has more relevance in later campaign
lusty has niche application as a fighter focused cv, good for w15 support fleet

you can get both from one of the shops, i prefer getting sandy for your account first

[soft raft]

It's a bit niche
would prob craft like at most two

[lament bay]

lol i started it yesterday, need to farm it for w14

[void turret]

bb and CA

[meager gyro]

is it good for poverty for me?

[strange sphinx]

one 125 sub, one 121 sub and one 105 sub