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for the main fleet yes
why is aquila good again? (wrong response mb)
Very good secondary healer
So what is this fleet for? Seems like a weird mob fleet
then shimanto's an alright pick for there because of burn removal, right? Not for the AA
everything tbh hehe haha
yeah, there's plenty of other good options though so you don't need her specifically
So it's for W15? there's no thing as "for everything"
that is not a thing in this game
It is basically impossible to make a fleet that's optimized for every major piece of content without making any changes
hoho then I'd put more rainbows and/or unicorn instead of owari/ryuuhou
fair enough. Just confirming something

have you even finished the equip upgrades I reccomended last time?
yep well most of them
you can make really good faction fleets if you ignore factions entirely
dont really know why that aa gun aint recommended in the tier list but oh well
Non Faction Fleet-Faction Fleet? 
for a game that's all about collecting it seems strange people focus so much on factions
its pretty interchangable with the quad 40mm bofors but eh
which AA gun was that again?
uh the twin 113 mm
the Roomba? it is reccomended
Damn that's crazy
How do you guys level up your subs? Opsi and books? 
auto call subs and ignore
several months in the dorm
well shit not for bbs tho
thats what ive been looking at
why is owari so high up anyway she has pretty mid skills (I am bashing my wife)
Well that's because AA doesn't really matter that much for BBs , STAAG and Hazemeyer are used for Hit iirc 
derp
her skills are actually quite strong
she's basically the strongest SR BB in the game by far and almost competes with FDG
I mean yeah the special barrage is useful
and that's part of why
I'll take Rodney meta over owari for mob
But owari and flandre are the strongest boss gold BBs
RodM good? 
her buff skill is pretty unreliable IMO!11!!!
And duke
this good?
Can't get more reliable than 100%
How so? Explain yourself
Ok swapping Guam and Brest around worked-ish
Vanguard got melted pretty badly towards the end
And I think my Yk 2 and Ety are way too close to eachother, how do I desync them?
Make Enty faster
that's not a signifciant factor of her kit
also how I get dorm money for fruniture
not really unreliable but eh 
mainly comissions
Any tips to get more Mark VIII sub torp pieces? Like is there a specific level supply line disruption I should be doing? Or just keep doing level 95 one and praying to RNGesus?..
Just wanna craft more bidders for my subs since I only have 2 so far and I'm being limited by not having any mark VIII's
barrages come in clutch
Gold is one of the best for BBs and ok for CLs
not really, that's your only source and you are at the complete mercy of RNG
Just continue 95 and wait
That's kinda what I figured.. slowly over time while praying..
Will actually getting my Wolfpack Subs geared and 120 make my 14-3 and 14-4 experience easier?
I didn't get U-81 for WW but got Archer so I was planning on changing to Fishes but that'll take some time
She wipes the screen of (non-w14) suicide boats every 12s, and the ones that do slip by are likely to ram her phantom and die. And the rest of the kit is just fdg lite
it'll certainly help
Do I still try to get U-81 or nah? I'm at 500 cubes
More is better than less ||except for misinformation and disinformation||
what are your current wolf pack options?

Like this?
Is sub tech relevant
Sub meta changes every few months. Pick a fleet or gamble 
I wouldnt with just 500 cubes
it's good enough
Why do they have rudders, this is 13-N not 15-2 right
13H
Rudders are just leftovers from their 15-2 setups
As long as Enty strikes first, theyll start to desync more and more every strike
But Skyraider bad for 13-4 
yeah....
I don't really know much about Sub gear 
I do
I do have 3 snorkels and hulls just in case
ok then
I got Enty at 22.56s and Yk2 at 23.38s according to in-game so yup sounds about right
And yeah I'll swap the skyraider out for Tenrai once I do 13H-4
101 doesn't use hull
What does she use? 
Oxytorp, snorkel, and hull are the three general submarine options
If 101 uses hull, she will be too far forward and fail to find enemies in the torpedo targeting angle
can do 3-4 as I need 2 fleets
I have a Torp, can get another one 
Just chuck in whatever to fullfill the requirements and don't use the second fleet
Add ships with gear to the second fleet, you don't have to battle with them though
You'd better kick either Alsace or hood for unicorn though
What even is that torp
idk 
same
I don't know anything about subs 
I mean I know 37 has type 95, but idk what the other two are using
"Ferry" or some shit 96
does this work on her µ version?
Actually that's not even type 95 
Generally you want both slots to have the same torp, usually bidders
37 has Mk 12 Ferry and th other two have Type 96
You need one more CV
cv?
Yeah the Type 96 was an error mb 
Wait so I need 6 bidders? 
Aircraft Carrier, ships that carry planes
I don't see a solution. Play 2-4 hard for now, and passively level up enterprise, Yorktown, and/or hornet in the dorm
is there a good one from the guild shop?
This is my sub fleet rn, still tryna improve their gear over time. But they def help out 👌
you are barely anywhere close to being able to afford to raise a 2nd fleet rn
What matters I guess is you fill in the reqs of 2nd fleet
well I mean to slp in my dorm to passively level
But no need to rush
frankly barely anyone there is notable/worthwhile outside of who you're already using
Personally I like AMS, but I know a lot of people here don't
I'm basing off HM
There's no CV at all in guild shop
Hmm now I wonder if I have enough mats for 6 bidders
Hallo, just want to know if i finish one of this stage, do i get the ship itself or just a blueprint?
@potent slate
You get the ship, but it has to be done 60 times
yeah I was just thinking how so I could get gold drops for retrofiting my uni
no
the ones with the star are just denoting the SR ship drop from the D3 map from that section
And there is a 60 run pity if you dont manage to get them to drop before then
I see, any recommendations here which to get?
Most of them aren't worth the time.
Divergent chessboard for Iron blood tech > Polaris if you havent unlocked W9 or are currently unable to push due to commander lvl restriction > Everything else
If you're looking to spend oil, run the event instead.
Wait so 6 bidders it is then, I was asking cuz I saw some using 3 bidders and 3 ferry or some other torps 
Subs are weird
I do really need to spend my oil, cant finish the rookie task
wdym doubt 
Anyways, thanks for the help 
Buy curry
just buy dorm food or grind grind grind
If you really want to go through oil, buy curry in the dorm
Anyone using a Ferry crafted it by accident
oh
Will do that, thanks again
This hurt my mats
but thanks for help 
Btw what do you use for Secondary on your subs or does it not matter that much?
This is what I currently run
aight Twin 100 it is 
the fast gun for breaking shield
Ye
Only sub who is particular about her DD gun is Leo
Hmm, I wonder if the new gear lab gun is better now
Wish I had enough mark VIII's to craft 4 more bidders.. it's the only component I'm missing 
surcouf
I had just enough BPs for 6 
TIL Surcouf's gun is a DD gun 
wiki lists it as a SS gun
in my boss fleet should i do a cv flagship?
Depends on the content you're doing and what the fleet looks like but for a majority of content, no I wouldnt
ok thanks
Lucky haha
4G, 1.5G or 2E 
I started playing AL at the very end of Jan on only last week finally cleared the lvl 95 supply line disruption with S Rank so I should slowly start to get more Mark VIII parts now
goodbye alsace. hello unicorn
Is there a way to get gems by doing quests?
no
Like sorties? Nope
well, 3 star rewards
meh guess I'll hit up 4G
What's 4G 
4 hour grant
that sucks there's some really cool skins
That one guy became burger
Do not buy skins as a F2P
you are really screwing up your qol by doing so
you gotta use the 💳 if you want to buy skins
realistically you will prob wont be able to buy the average regular skin with all F2P gem income including comission RNG
might have to sink some cash into the game for some skins
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#finite-currency Check the bottom of this on how to get gems besides using your CC, but then again don't buy skins as a f2p
its just pixels
pixels that look very nice
pixels you can browse online
someone doesn't have a phone with touch
not while Im playing
whats next UR rerun?
Out of curiosity can I stack regular jintsu and meta jintsu abilities in same fleet (I just realized I had Jintsu meta just sitting around)
Vanguard I believe
should i use gems on dock space or dorm space?
oh does that mean another rainbow firecontrol table
Yeah
Both, 3 or 4 Dorm slots (total) + 2nd floor and dump the rest into dock space
2nd floor is not always full 100% recommended, if said person doesn't play that much then it's a waste
Yeah true
what about the xp though?
you don't get exp in 2nd floor
Only first floor gets passive exp, second floor doesn't but what it has is higher morale recovery than 1st floor
ah i see
theres 4 more days of the event right?
so just unlock 3rd slot and wait for 2nd floor and rest to dorm space?
Yeah you can have your Mob fleet resting at all times by doing so
also should i still grind the affinity for lil friedrich? is it good as a boss fleet flagship?
Sure and nope
alr ty
She's better than Pennsylvania that's for sure
but if you're considering her for boss fleet, you most likely lack enough ships to consider a 2nd fleet anyways
Is her barrage 100%
What are the PR ships I should skip getting, ie what are the lowest priority PR ships?
Dunno how exactly you want us to quantify the worst picks so imma do the opposite as per usual
Research priority is FdG > All of PR4 > At least Plymouth from PR5 > Everyone else
Where Brest
why is PR 4 so good
Cuz it has 4/5 commonly used Ships plus decent gear and Tenrai
basically everyone there except for Marco is still used in mainline comps despite being a nearly 3 Year old season at this point
Good ships, good equips
so all of PR 4 minus marco?
Now that there's coining get Marco anyways so you remove her from the Pool to get Haku to Fs5 faster
you still want to do Marco anyways purely to max her out to make getting the prints needed for the other PR4 ships faster
+13 Tenrai good?
Good yes, prio no
wait u cant coin PR4 can u?
You can Coin the PRs, aka Anchor, Avp and Marco
U can coin the gold ships
ohhhh fair i only have hak from that and im like i can coin this? 😛
I can coin azuma lmao why is that?
Because you can....
You should finish getting the other 3 to Fs5 for you to get hers faster
Because you can coin everything below pr4
Do all limited skin comeback in anniversary?
Lil question
How do I understand what armor type a boss have?
And are the 3 numbers of efficacy against armor in guns ordered as light-medium-heavy?
Wait there is armor type?
huh ok, well i have been grinding suboptimally but eh ill go for PR 4 now ig, im get August von Parseval rn, and ig ill grab agir next and then idk
All skins before a certain cut off date rerun in the Black Friday event
cut off last year was in June
tho i should have enough universal prints to just finish hak, how many does it take?
/devbp
So black friday is soon available? This year
You look it up and yes
hmm well i have 153 rainbow general prints for series 4, 153 for series 5 and 157 for series 6
Black Friday is in November
worth using the series 5 prints to immediate fate sim hak when that comes out?
No, only use the PR4 ones
Pr4 prints sure dump them on Haku
5 and 6 no
Also Haku already has a fate sim
Thx
What about bosses like that eldritch horror from ex stage?
Is it heavy?
Cause I wanted to try and see how much dmg would improve if I gave all my ships non HE weapons
ohhh
Ex boss is heavy armor
then i shall dump em immediately, ngl i finished hak recently and havent thrown her into my fleets yet cause im lazy af
You mainly know from Datamine or asking in here for EX Bosses 
Don't think there's that info in Wiki, I might be wrong
Thx
Iirc heave armor is weak against ap ammo, right?
Also ammo type, especially for vanguard doesn't strictly dictate how good a gun is against armor types compared to other options
Like the Plymouth Gun and the Mogador gun are the best CL and DD guns against all armor types
I guess cause they are strong enough to offset that multiplier?
also i fate sim 5ed drake cause i got her some time ago, should i use the general series 3 prints on FDG or coin fdg and turn those prints into those thingies to buy BPs with
buying bp bad. buy gear
especially rainbow gear
wait are the gear things not blueprints too oops, i meant the gear thingies
What gear thingies? Protocore?
Why not just use them on Drake and convert them to prototype cores now
i still have a few more 234 triples i can buy and the 457 pieces
bought out tenrai and the plymouth gun with all the xp packs
ye protocore, i forgot the name, wait u can do that?
There's a multitude of factors
Just consult Sam's gear guide
The Drake thing Cheeky said? Yeah
so turn em into drake and coin azuma/fdg?
Better off than using them on FdG since she's coinable
Yeah and analyze the leftover Drake bps into protocore
Gotcha, thx
oh damn 54 prints is 1k protocores? i honestly expected much worse rates idk why
iirc a DR BP is worth 20 protocore so yeah that sounds about right
Where do I look for it btw?
hmm 6 more for 243mm triple, can u get those while doing other series or no?
DR is 1:25 iirc
question: Have you got Tenrai yet
i got 1 tenrai
was that from PR4 research or the protocore shop
i bought out the tenrai the plymouth gun and the drake gun now from the core store, but im missing 6 pieces for second drake gun
ye all 50
Aight
i gots 2 ply guns, one for ply and one for helena
I guess you can buy Drake Gun bps
it's on Gearlab too btw
It's in #bot-spam /equip
Thx a lot
well the thing is i suffer from a severe case of laziness so gear lab practically doesnt exist cause i dont grind operation siren so.... suboptimal but lazy
have they ever mentioned whether they will make the purple METAs available again?
basically i want max result for minimum grind
They will we don't know how or when
nice! thanks
You can literally afk OpSi tho 
oh for this event should i grab bearn meta crystals or wait for that shop thing?
If you buy the 5k oil thingy and let it explore by itself
You know you can just ask grind Opsi if you cough up 5k oil a month right
see i never actually complteted the damn thing the first time XD
Also not doing OpSi at all can and will bite you in the rear
Bruh
ill get around to it one day maybe
Just get to chapter 4 of OpSi and try next month idk
Stomach it up and finished the campaign then
After your first reset things get a lot easier
You are missing out on alot of gear
You don't have to deal with puzzles and what not After clearing campaign
ehhh tbf since i dont do op si i havent really felt the lack of gear in anything i do yet 😛
Well you don't really need that good gear if you aren't in like W13+ or even W14
Well, can't say I didn't warn you
But Opsi good regardless
Same for me, I never played opsi a lot
How important is to do it and what should one do in opsi?
its like half your gear
I see
i mean i just got to 13-1 right before this event so that paused things, ngl i was hoping to just use lvl 125 rainbow fleets to power through with suboptimal gear XD
meanwhile me never get any gear from opsi yet 
I always crafted mainly gear from blueprints
good gear > good ships
You can't
Gear is more important than ship choice
Well, you don't get gear from Opsi, you get materials which you use in Gearlab to craft gear
welp ig im about to find out
Bad ships that are well geared will succeed where good ships with bad gear fail
What kind of gear is bad gear?
just use scylla
Mostly the golds you get from boxes
What's so cool about her?
except that she is hms
There's only a few that are actually good from them
there prob like only 5 pieces of gear from the entirety of techboxes that are good
Does that include the ones craftable to usable ones?
Depends but if you're still stuck with transitional gear by the time you get to w14, that's not good enough anymore
most bis guns/planes are locked behind opsi
well most of my gear is from research I think, i dont think i have any box gear other than gold catapults and ya
I usually base myself off tier list gear
Don't have ur guns but I can usually craft pr guns or some Smol things from gear lab
Is it good enough?
depends on the content
basically thus my carriers are underpowered cause i dont have best planes but the BBs should be fine?
really though this obversion from OpSi is just stupid
cause afaik BBs use that 406 AP gun from research, staag from research, and the shells from core data
the first clear is a buit rough and tedious yes but after your first reset things become a lot easier
Ngl I also avoided Opsi early on but it is so important you will notice once you get into it
is fleuret better than starter laffey?
you barely have to do anymore tapping than autosearching W12 and you're gaining so much valuable materials for the gear lab to mention it's your main source of gold plates
you get your 5 pieces of gear from protocore, now what?
What is a must do in opsi?
Those coordinate thingies?
Even if she was you wouldn't think about replacing laffey since you still need to level and use laffey for starter missions
Everything
you do everything each month
And starters post-retrofit are great
Explore all the map, then all hidden coords, abyssals, strongholds
alr thanks
clear everything with an icon, buy what you need from the shops, and dump any remaining AP each month into C5 nodes
Gotcha
More of a headache than I thought ngl
it's really not
Believe us, it isn't
opsi is also the source of half your gold plates
If you cough up 5k oil you can just leave it to afk for like a week and you'd be done with a lot of your chores
It sounds way more complicated than it is
once you realize scan exists and all you do is tap a few extra times practically
It's easy to recover the 5k if you do your commissions
It's just that auto opsi takes so quite a bit
i find that extremely wasteful
It's mostly for lazy ppl like me
Chat how do I balance my fleet 2 with my fleet 1, my fleet 2 is under leveled and I'm struggling to level it up like my fleet 1.
Just do recon request for every node
the thing i hate recon is you either spend AP or wait 25 mins
It just clears the map, right?
Whats the difference?
Some may find it wasteful, some may find it useful
It's all about how active you are in playing AL
If you don't play much and don't mind spending the extra 5k you can cough it up
If you do play a lot and are willing to manual stuff and navigate then good for you
it unlocks the map so you can use auto search to clear it
Put them into your dorm
? But mostly what campaign stage are you at?
It's all up to the player and how much time and attention they're willing to sink into the game
4-3
too bad you dont have the ap to clear it
You don't really need a second fleet until later on
Cool
Then I guess I already did it unconsciously
now that i read it again the gametip not telling much 
May I take a look at what you are using?
My fleet?
Yep
Hold on
can i somehow fullheal fleets in opsi? i kinda messed up i think 
We doin fleet sharing, uh?
I'm ready to get roasted too
Go to a blue port and then heal in there
Those are uuuh, interesting to say the least
yeah don't run 2 dfleets right now
please give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Thanks
Blue port > port > formation > repair all
And if you don't understand you can ask for help with your fleet in here 
I just finished the last fight before the boss in our guild event but the boss is still locked. What gives? I assumed the boss would just be available as soon as the previous fight was finished
relog
This is the fleet I used for ex boss (and I guess what I will use for opsi bosses too)
How bad is it?
oh ofc 
Not bad but you need AP Guns for this EX boss 
just curious, when doing opsi, what are the chances my independence will be using eagle union planes? i dont have any gear lab planes yet
not bad, BB gear is all over the place though
Maybe replace Unzen for Helena too and put her in the middle
ship choices are fine but I'd probably put Unzen middle
also missing some levels
gearing yeh
Any advice other than ap weapons?
the fighter slot will be Eagle Union, TB slot potentially never
Unzen is fine, less RNG if you can kill regardless
selfish vanny
Unzen is hot
And yeah, feels less rng than Helena
that for medium and heavy armor
f6f hellcats are about my best option so yeah ig they will be using eagle union fighter
its been a while, but is there still a ship and equipment tier list i can base my team off of?
that for light armor
I definitely have the musashi gun
Is the other one from gear lab?
it's in the gear lab yes but I reccomend just protocoring it
since when did bismarch get a ur?
PR3/lab
since last May
since a year ago
wtf
should i be +10 gold f6f hellcats or is it not really worth it
Interesting
Vanny uses purple gun
Not gold 2 barrel?
Isn't the HMS shell that he has slightly better? 
they're worth +10
The Mk6 is the best HE gun against light armor
triple higher shelling damage
and if you use twin she'll desync from BisZwei and Musashi
Souka
is there a good tierlist?
#bot-spam /tierlist
Slaimuda/ECTL is the only up to date one I guess 
oh word? thats still up?
Always been 
Uuuuh
Which neptune guns?
The secondary guns of your BBs
the aux gun you have your BBs
I might disappoint you
Welp
prints are fine... but you shouldn't have been researching PR1
Guess they are just leftovers from long ago
not even the first alt. That would be Yorkii
unless you farmed it from that 1 event that dropped it... which event was it again?
I think it was Idolmaster
I don't have too many good vanguard options, especially when it comes to DDs who should I level up out of these because they are nice to have?
Cause I really don't use gear lab a lot so I doubt I went there to craft all those guns
what did SSSS dropa gain?
I mean you already have quite a few good options
155s among others, nothing too special of note iirc
What's the purpose of this gun on vanny then?
what should a normal mob and boss fleet consist of?
faster fire
ask the ECTL, for practical purposes though she should never use it
But faster fire rate doesn't cause desync?
It does
Ectl?
ectl doesn't care about sync or desync
english community tier list
I do? I'm just asking as I haven't played in a little while so I don't know how power creep has been and mogadors worth I've also heard ognevoy is pretty decent
English Community Tier List 🐌
for VG specifically I don't think there's any practical use case where she wants a twin, besides 457 for PvP
I see
Ectl is campaign based
the name of the site you screenshotted...
even based on campaign VG doesn't want to use twins unless desyncing
well even if powercreep did set in you don't exactly have the ships anyway so it's not particularly relevant
Moagdor's good if you have the bullins for her but other than that
So...
Slaimuda is kinda not good?
the gear rec is meh
Fu-
we kinda wrote every guide there is
The gear recommendations are not from top to bottom, read gear descriptions 
gera is situational and you need to think about what you choose to equip
Delete beginner guide since it's outdated
just looking at a tier list's reccs doesn't really do much, esepcially if you don't read the descriptions at least

I don't yet but I'm working on getting the bulins, I just finished Alsace so I can level her now
How many gears use UR main gun plan?
Gotcha
My overall knowledge is only about same firerate for syncing and different ammo for different hulls
Not sure if there is something more I should know about
Well Mob is mostly for Ships that have good clearing + a Healer(Unicorn), Boss is mostly for your stronger ships that can do alot of damage in a short time so to say
rice 
too lazy, newbie tips exists for a reason
what should my vanguard and main consist of?\
depends on the content and what you have at our disposal exactly
firepower is nice to have
duck and Mk7
We don't know what you have 
AL doesn't have or cater to one size fits all fleets
Mk7 good?
it's a shiny Mk6
yes, but not a high priority to craft
If you want help with your fleets drop your dock in a thread sorted by Level and filter out commons and rares
How is it's spread
im thinking i should write a sequel to newbie tips
yes you should...
You should, some people come here saying they've been farming for Hiryuu in 3-1 
same
tell them to do pvp more
Aight 
pvp give bulin very good mode
How big is the coin difference between 13-4 and 12-4, i do want coins, but unicorn is fat on xp, and 13 is hard without her
i think it was like 10%
if only the auto would pick up the ammo...
if its on safe it shouldnt make a difference
13-4 takes less shitters if you don't want to bring Unicorn or some sort of carry
Im constructing Sait Lousis and Monarch but why it take so long
it takes like what a week
That's the short part
it's marathon
Guys btw how many buffs and changes happened on mogador..and is she still uhh "useful"..or if i have the likes of plymmy hinden etc..its enough
I think it’s around 40% but I’m not sure
CN got 2
JP and EN just rolled the last version
she's now a top tier DPS ship
Cuz it does idk, Building them is the short part, the long one is coining and/or getting them to Dev 30 for them to be useful
dev 30?
Instead of Limit Breaks and Enhancing PR/DR ships use Blueprints to get them, Dev 30 is MLB and that takes between 1 ~ 2 months to do
With D10 being LB1 and D20 being LB2 as well
Another q, I recently came back from a long break 1.5y, to discover i had 14 rings unused, so to avoid accidentally quitting without using them again, i spent most of them and now have a bunch of 125 ships that need affinity.
whats the best way to build them up
use them for carrying other ships to level
Use them in battle that's the only way
So my Laffey’s getting crinkles (I’m gonna retire once she hits 120.) Any good substitutes for my fleet?
most efficient? push 15.
farm any stage i guess
Wait what? You are gonna retire her once she's 120 or do you just plan on replacing her? 
still no idea if affinity fully rng or depends on stage
that's not going to work if the ships he oathed aren't great ch15 options, also just doing 15 in itself isn't enough for 100>200
I mean yeah cause.. I don’t like Laffey.
if you're lucky hussii doesn't drop
why do oaths matter for w15
Just a tiny stat increase
they don't, he's looking for some place to do affinity for lv125 ships he just oathed
EN
just toss them in whatever your farming, like the event
If you need her just keep using her
That doesn't sound like a good idea ngl
but I guess you can replace her for Z23
Retiring a Lv 120 ship just because you don't like her sounds kinda dumb, but you do you
Looks like the final answer is there is no shortcut, i'll just try and put them in whenever i can, thx all
Also if you didn't like her, why did you even raise her to lvl 120 in the first place
prob saving dock space
he can retire his laffii in 3 years
sounds fine tbh
i would just use them in events
better than retiring without lv120
Just get more dock space of you're short
lvl to 120, get fleet tech, retire, repeat for all ships
Till I have no ships? 
This is why
150 says no
This is where those F2P gems should be used

Truly a moment of all time
guilds are a thing
I just got carried away with Mogador
Wait you bought her skin as a F2P? 

SOBBING DONT LOOK AT ME

I SAW MYSELF IN HER TOO MUCH AND I NEEDED HER OKAY?!
Bruh
is ther a max dock space limit you casn have?
don't even need a guild. public is up to what? +12?
Depends on your net worth/wallet 
Either way, retiring a lvl 120 ship when it doesn't even look like you have that many in the first place is just dumb
Not only did you buy a skin with gems, it was a L2D skin....
3000(3030)
Wait it has a hard cap? 
depot and augment also have cap
Fair.
Is there a list of ships with cross fleet barrage or buffs? Or can it be filtered from the ECTL?
auto and oilcap changed the game so much, i remember auto going in, but you needed safe, so i quit, this modern stuff is great
/crossfleet
Thanks!
Is vanguard most likely going to have a rerun than sushi?
She's likely gonna rerun sooner yes
But both of them are going to get a rerun tho
How many times do I need to clear this file mission
If I get the UR equip (like example from Sushi’s 460) will I get an another copy of it when it reruns?
Yes
yes idk why you would want another one
More shiny
One for each Main Gun Slot the actual ship has
for mushii obviosuly
One day we'll be able to build it in the Gear Lab and BBs will start operating on a timer of 23 + 26x 
In all seriousness though, the BIS for BB main gun slot was restricted to reruns for the longest time
Idk, never had 460 ever, and my bro has one, and quite curious to ask it

you mean 25/27/29s timings
I should note that the Mk 7 isn't unconditionally BiS
(Actually nothing is unconditionally BiS)
She'll definitely rerun before Musashi, The only question is if we're gonna be able to squeeze Musashi rerun within the year or not
True. It's one of the best general purpose guns, but not the unconditional BIS.
Ply and Mogador gun come into scene
I’ve missed Zwei and Unzen, since luck ain’t on my side. 
Wtb more plyguns
where do I use trainig points
Nah, fascinatingly, even those have their occasions where you might use something else 👀
(Very narrow, weird cases, though)
Newish players gonna cry for UR Bullins
the game gives you too many bulins
Well besides ships that prefer other guns is there actually?
Should I always take the rainbow researches even tho I’m saving coobs?
What training points? 
you won't get that many UR research anyway
if youre low on cubes, skip cube research
Depends, if you're above 400 sure
Otherwise skip
it's a milestone type of points, no need to spend it
Have to ration it somewhat though. The double UR was juicy but I'll still have to choose between MLB my Laffey2 and the new DD
just get 3000 and claim the frame
2800
I have 400
Those are for a frame
you dont use them
a frame?
Then don't
Event > Call to Arms
Cosmetic. You're not missing out on anything functional if you don't get it
ah
I thought there was like a shop I could spend them in
Basically your chat bubble to others has more bling
I would consider ships preferring other DD guns to fall into the aforementioned "weird" cases given that they represent a tiny fraction of the total population of ships that use DD guns
As for Ply gun, cases where you need increase pellet volume per second
And I guess if we want to go there, PvP BB secondaries, but it's not like most people can outfit their entire backline with Plyguns anyway
A shop with one thing yes
shimanto
Ok yeah I suspected as much
Oh ye, Shimanto gun is another good example...
But I probably don't use it quite the way it is intended...
Yeah
is the Newcomers Support campaign no longer in the game?
Nope
damn sadge
Last one ended a long time ago
wasnt it like 2 years ago
That event was really broken though
ye
didnt it give like 10 catas
Explain? 
Cuz nobody expected she was going to be broken or what?
The event shop gave you enough mats to retrofit Unicorn day one of starting the game
oh 
exp books included
And a lot more besides
Oh yeah that was when the Little E server came out
iirc it gave a bunch of those gear selector boxes too
Why don't they do it with all retros 
Literally couldn't spend the T2 xp packs fast enough that event
Still find it hilarious that we had Perseus rerun like two weeks before UniKai came out
you pretty much had a full lv100 fleet day 1
Not quite
You could select some gear but you were limited to one each for the SR gear
ah right
Then a shitton of toolbox and good transitional gears
And Nagato
Toolbox my beloved
Even if they were decent they are a waste of time and oil
Akaga strat has been outdated since like 2019
Are you watching a YT guide or something?
what are some cvls and cvs i can use for my boss fleet?
What campaign stage are you at?
yeah
oh god stop, they are mostly outdated and filled with misinformation
let's just say chap 5 currentlu
chapter 5 is one fleet territory
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips Give this a read
Pennsylvania/Unicorn/Enterprise Portland/Starter DD/Helena, stick with that
You are noooooowhere close to a 2nd fleet right now
rread
alr
My keyboard is old and E,R tend to double type 
Sorry for bothering again
What site did you use to display fleet like this?
Looks very nice
If I accidentally sent a dupe ship to a commission and it leveled can I not use it to limit break anymore?
Thx
You can, it's just hidden
You can just have to disable the filter that prevents ships that aren’t level 1 to be used
Ah thank you
Regarding guides and whatsoever, only refer to Sam's guides and any question you got ask them in here regardless if they sound dumb to you
alr thank you for the help :))
is amagi-chan good? 
So the faq said even tho they are both UR but Alsace performance is great and Mogador is ok?
No, retire her asap 
Not much outstanding like other UR?
You are a bad father
retiring is out of the question
The Mogador part was prob written before the fixes hit EN
She's very good now
Tho at the same time, there's no real place for her in the overall meta
Does she still have survivability problems?
Not as much as before
thanks for this, thanks to this i went back to see why with uni was so much better, and the answer is, i should have moved the wyverns over when i took her out
did mogador have a problem with her kit?
She used to be suicidal
she used to not work well at all and die extremely easily
i ran her on an a2 stage after hearing about it and she died in the middle of the first or second battle
oh was her ramming reduction/invulnerability not proccing?
she doesn't have that at the start
was never bugged
only ramming reduction
It was, but at the same time she ate torps and bullets which killed her in 20s
it's not bugged, it's bad design
thats all auto AI, especially when i auto my abyssal fights
fixed
Yeah it was just designed poorly
You play on auto 90% of the time so it was a bad design
mog cucking your buttons was a bug, mog killing herself was bad design 
if it builds, it works. no need to test!
what is QA
Anyways she works now
you
where's my salary
We pay you in exposure
youre paid in nimi pings
we dont get paid in money. we get paid in something better--knowledge. nothing is more invaluable than knowledge. if someone said "do you want a million dollars or do you want a book that teaches you how to build the best fleets in azur lane" i would take the book. the reason is because money can never buy me good fleets, just good ships. things to think about.

what ships are worth grinding war archives events for
w/r to using them in actual content
JdA too
cosmic kicks 
so still nothing here
damn so only stuff to unlock fdg (already have her finished) or waifu?
And the Black torps for torp memes tho I don't remember what WA it was 
Aurora noctis D1
whats in that
I guess, haven't touched a War Archive in like a year
you can buy them now, right?
The Black torps I was talking about which shouldn't matter to you really
okok
Black torp, is that IJN torp?
lets say i grind for waifu (west virginia->retro, chapayev), what are each of them best used for?
Don't think so? They are in gear lab
black torps are in core data shop
oh
I'm talking about the 533mm mags that's in core shop
You can buy them now in core shop
They can be farmed (if, for some reason you want to) from Aurora Noctis D1
smo0tie is spreading misinformation
I was checking Wiki 
Black torp is German btw
wv is a good barrage bb with funny requirements. chapayev is a good cl gunboat.
Wait I was looking at the wrong ones
Woops 
In my defense these look black enough https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Mark_35_Torpedo_Mount_(Quad_Consecutive_Launch)#Type_0-0
Ah, that's why you thought Gear Lab probably
Those are indeed in the Gear Lab
the left one looks like a recorder
looks like a torpedo
You uninstalled AL?
I'm no Chinese expert but it looks like aquila is pretty strong
Wasnt aware of that
Common Sardegna w


CN Tierlist is for W15 btw
planes, ramming, submarine, multiple boss
I mean
If aquila is strong in w15 I would suppose she is strong elsewhere too
i mean yes she is strong

She's still strong but prob not that high tier
Not like SS tier strong though
Like why would you need to build her for opsi when unicorn exist
So China is biased?
No. It's the content
No, it's a W15 tierlist
So w15 is biased
but you can use aquila with unicorn in opsi...
It's all about bringing the right tools for the job
W15 is really different form most content
It's tierlist specifically for chapter 15-1 - 15-4
everything after the 1st row is sus
Like despite how we have uni as EX tier on en tier list, no one is gonna use unicorn in boss fleet
ok I need a refresher, what World map is good for EXP?
agirs pretty sus too ngl
Well she has a mob tag for a reason
What should i buy ?
Agir second best boat in game behind NJ
#bot-spam /protocore
Sadly I'm no chinese expert
Tried to Google lense translate but result was poor
No need to be a Chinese expert when we told you what the reasoning is 
True
W15 tierlist meant for W15 and no other content
forgot how much of a fucking mess CN TLs are
Ngl, it sounds like w15 is a whole different game
a bit
From bullet hell to soulslike
ECTL has a more "general" point of view, although I think it is or was W13 based
Reach enlightenment when you discover w13 on safe is just w12+
it's not w13 based, it's just looking at ship individually

Do ships not in the Big 4 also provide fleet tech points?
3 days left.. can i still get mogador if i have 0 vouchers right now lol
Wait wut how is it even work ?
wdym? 
Did you complete the minigame?
so whats the split of the factions? Like what tech points for Iris girls give?
what minigame?
The pipes one
Manjuu plumbing
the minigame where you fill da pool
its over?
...?
I buy the series 3 , choose the 406 gun but i cant craft it yet ?
did you finish it tho?
im bout to play it
cause you get Mog from it
you need 25 blueprints to craft 1
You gotta go to your items and use the General bps to get the blueprints
But you also need 25 which you got 20 of
Ooooooo the limit was 20 
I tought its like barracuda and only need 15 print per craft

how many voucher we get from it?
105 in total from the minigame
Check the pins
So what tech points do Iris girls give?
Who's the white hair meta ship with the eyepatch?
iris
Btw you don't even need to play it, you can just enter, pause and leave and you still get the rewards
Kirov presumably
Ugh. Too many metas. I'll check her skills
Or you can be Stig and beat the game in under 30s
havker
New to AL here. The online guide says to convert prints into protocore, but where can I convert it?
Depot > Items > Click on them > Analyze
iris tech points are not used for iris faction tech, but shipyard ships like Brest are locked behind iris tech points
which one is CDC?
Tf is Kirov meta being top tier buffer for? Speed debuff?
forget about it, look for the item 
you can click this too
CDC is different thing
Yeah mb 
No idea
so they don't benefit from fleet tech?
You can't analyze/convert them if the Ship isn't Dev 30
you can't convert bps until the ship is dev 30
Perhaps strong buffs for all meta ships?
all MLB ships benefit from all factions' tech and all individual ships' tech
Mfkr, I thought my fleet missed out on a strong buffer that takes my optimised carriers further beyond
oh, do i just to the research academy until they are dev 30?
oh so it's not just iron blood fleet tech benefitting iron blood ships?
Are you even done with FdG or PR4 yet?
got 200exp packs should i use them all on my starting fleet?
info unclear, needs more red arrows
cuz i saw on wiki push to chap 9 can i get to chap 9 with them?
Dunno, sounds pretty solid to me
I don't think so. I've very new, and set up my research following the research guide. I think it said to pick 4 or 5 and i ended up picking 5
sure, it will make the journey easier with level advantage
Wait it says that? 
how do I leave a guild? THe one I'm in is currently dead.
click on the thingy beside guild's name from lobby
Oh you kinda misunderstood, the better focus is
FdG > Anchorage > Agir > Rest of PR4 > Ply > PR5
RIP the homies... it was fun while it lasted.
oh ><, which one is FdG? is that friedrich der grobe?
literally no point in which faction the guild is in, right?
Do you want to see st Louis or see Leipzig every day?
should i change my research even if im halfway?
Btw what campaign stage are you at?
Cuz Research is kinda expensive if you aren't at W12
i've been farming the event, so i'm only up to 5-4
Halfway with what? 
are you maybe confusing research with developing
I think i am
maybe smootie is confusing them
ahh, i confused the shipyard
i think so too LOL
Maybe I'm stupid
ok, so i changed my research to FdG
Send a screenshot to see what you are currently doing 
i dont blame you, the UI is dogshit
oh that's fine, but change the top one "Research Focus/5" to 4
FdG is your Catchup
But she's and her Season are coinable so she doesn't need to have her Season (2) focused
this stuff is so confusing for me as of yet, but thanks for your help!
I'm guessing i'll get it the more i play?
Don't worry we are here to help with whatever question you got 
For now consider Research as a side thing until you reach W12
Cuz then again is expensive to keep up
ahh, ok. is there ever downtime between events for me to push main campaign?
ahh, ok. that's great. I guess my priority then is to farm event until then, and then push as far as I can?
Yep, try to farm as much as you can and then you can push campaign
If you don't know what to get from the event shop check out the 5/21 Datamine in 📌
Is hard mode for chp 11 harder than chap 12 normal
Kinda? Haven't really compared them
the shop priority says to buy bearn meta, but if I have 2 copies from pulls, should I still buy it?
No, you buy the crystals then
They are the same as bulins, you need 4 of them in total + Bearn herself
If I buy a skin for Yorktown can I use that skin on Yorktown II?
ahhh, ok
is bearn meta good? I tried using her, but she did no damage compared to alsace
She is but you might be missing on her "Enhancing" since it requires special materials
ahh, ok. that's probably it
Check out Lab > Meta Lab > Rigging Fortification
i've got it at 28%
That may be why you feel she's kinda weak
Also she needs to be Limit Broken + Skills
META Ships are kinda weird in that sense
(Also, does no damage compared to Alsace)
Between preload and her being a UR BB, your bar is set kinda high lol
Ah
thanks for your help. Just one last question for now, should I be putting in a lot of effort for operation siren already? I heard that's where I can get the materials to craft items
Is Laffey II good enough to be mob tank on w14?
You should try to atleast clear the Opsi "Campaign" up until chapter 4 which is just following the exclamation mark
gotcha. Thanks again!
im die at event's sp chapter 
Many players do
Halp me sp level
Just so I can calibrate myself here: are t3 retrofit prints in medal shop very pricey? My instinct says it feels weird they’re as pricey as they are
They are very pricey ye
Yes, they are a scam
One day I’ll get to finish Helena 😭😂
Only shop you buy Retro bps from is Guild shop really
Yeah I’ve done that a few times. Just not rolling t3 in rewards
Or I could go back and do chapter 6/7 as you get t3 first time there
How much retro mats do you usually get from farming the hard stages u usually farm? Just curious what's the difference between the lower stage and higher
There's no droprate difference as far as I know
Just a higher core data
So it's normal to get 2 blue retrofit mats? Damnn how long u guys get 6 gold retro then averagely
idk I get like 3 or 4 gold every week on average I think?
It's just rng
You can get guaranteed ones from one time side missions by 3* a hard stage
Icic maybe higher stages have higher chance for the rng tho? Idk if about the same I'm super unlucky then farming at stage 5 of hard
They give their respective bps
Yeah tomorrow I’m just gonna go back and do easier chapters for the guaranteed gold. This last skill node on Helena is bothering me 😂
Like I said they don't have higher chances, it's just rng 
And core data is incredibly important for progresssion so keep pushing 😂
Im Just making assumption of course to clarify it,but thanks cause your average 4 gold a week is higher than my 2 weeks farm at stage5
I could also just be very unlucky
Is there a trick to get more xp on one ship? Penny feels like she’s leveling so slow. Still only 115 and I need 120 for tech then can bench her
exp packs
Flag and MVP when grinding, outside of that just exp books
I will unlock stage 11 of hard now, will 3 star normal first, not confident I can do 12 hard
Yeah like is there a trick to getting her mvp? Hood is so good at stealing that 😂
Matter of fact is we don't know the drop rates.
I think we would know by now if they were wildly different though
Getting your hood to do no damage whatsoever 
Yeah that's also something I was wondering
Yeah no shit penny is never gonna MVP unless you off flag hood
Oh yeah penny is a flag bb 😂
Mvp control is 
Yeah Penny still a flag BB
Who would be a good off-tank
W14 mob fleet
Also flag gets more exp
Why don't you just use Azuma as a Tank and Laffii as off tank tho
Or Anchorage better
better yet ply tank, laff offtank
There's a few better choices than main tanking with Laffii in your dock 
probably don't wanna use UvH flag tho
I already have the 3 starter ships should i grind them to get Ayanami asap?
no FdG?
I have FDG, NJ and UvH
Ayanami doesn't really matter that much tbh
yeah use FdG instead of UvH
She's just... there
What secondary gun should I use on FDG?
Triple 155 or 155 Kai if possible
is the spearfish just a light armor version of wyvern?
Not rly
I was gonna say light armoured version of the Saiun, but I'm not even particularly happy with that characterisation...
in terms of damage who would be superior? Yuudachi Retrofit, Mogador, Tai Yuan, Kawakaze? they're all maxed and MLB
Maybe Mogador?
Might potentially depend on enemy armour type
I heard TY's dmg was also good
Then 2nd question, is it worth going for?
should be mogador
if mog doesnt beat all of those then she is just garbage
Isn't its usecase more like Wyvern than Saiun tho?
depends on what you currently have
its kinda expensive but its the only parallel torp that is very good at killing elites
It's quite expensive and has few advantages over Wyvern
So ig kinda for the rich only
I have 0 spearfish but 4 wyverns (never really grinded op siren too much)
Normally is, ye
But my interest in it from day one has been anti-light bossing on ships whose TB slot I can't switch out for a rocket fighter
youll prob be better off making a 457 or two before you start making spearfishes
I have 4 of those too
From the questions I've asked
It's not worth getting over the wyvern because it's more expensive but it is better in some situations
(Just get wyverns)
get a spearfish or two then, idr anyt else important that uses t3 ordnance
tenrai when it comes out
not like youll use more than 3 tenrai at once
That's like a year and a half away isn't it?
6x tenrai mob fleet
should be this year, when idk
personally ive never needed more than 2 so i havent bothered with trying to get more
Huh?
I still only have 2 tenrais 
ngl i feel that i wasted my plates on my +13 tenrai
3 ur gears are necessarily a lot
Do these things worth getting
who would alsace replace on triple BB fleet?
Unless you are a whale, hell naw
What are the packs you recommend, aside from monthly and bp
What do you use those gems for
sovetsky i’m pretty sure
Gem spending varies if you are a F2P or spender
skins, dorm, dock
I mostly buy gems for dock space and some skins here and there
Is it rly better at that?
if F2P usually strictly only dock and dorm
damn I didn't even get to use her much since I have been inactive