gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

if a fight is short enough then Perseus is also irrelevant

[copper pine]

if the fight is short, just slap in richy, alsace and another preload kek

[rapid grail]

Unikai just feels more convenient for nearly everyone to use

Leads to people abandoning Percy from all content which is pretty sad

[whole crypt]

same for several other previously "meta" ships

[rapid grail]

Nah, not worth losing up to 9 seconds every fight

[whole crypt]

Perseus isn't the first to be dropped from newer ships being better and won't be the last

[copper pine]

most fight other than w14 or w15 doesnt last till 2nd salvo right?

[rapid grail]

Just use preload CVs if that is the case

[half plover]

if I messed up abyssal and cant rest and regroup bc I already did it do I have to wait a day in abyssal or will it reset before and I messed up completely

[rapid grail]

Can't leave abyssal because doing so will remove the abyssal zone

[copper pine]

who does preload cv again that isnt perseus

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn retro

[copper pine]

unikai and?

[whole crypt]

if you leave the abyssal you lose it completely
up to you if you want to wait and waste AP for another regroup

[cobalt rapids]

aquila

[copper pine]

aquila

[rapid grail]

chise, Aquila db, unikai, formi muse

[copper pine]

formi muse is good?

[half plover]

but beating it could give UR blueprints so that is probably worth spending 50 ap on regroup

[whole crypt]

she can hit pretty hard but her preload is tied to using 2 other muse ships or regular ships with muse aux

I'm planning to swap her in to try but I can't do it before I'm done with Foch

[copper pine]

i will admit, my general thinking is, other than new ultra, SSR are just collection%, since currently we got everything already powerful with the current retro and SSR (like harbin for example).. is this thinking wrong?

[whole crypt]

you can't just throw rainbows at late campaign
you can do that for OS but anything works for OS

like we've basically stopped talking about OS difficulty for years unless you want to push memes, oneshots on odd harbys or do shit with low adapt

[half plover]

is kazagumo good to mlb and use?

[whole crypt]

yes with a CV fleet

[rapid grail]

if you adopt certain attitudes common among players that are interested in the intricacies of the game, most SRs and below stop being just 'collection tier'

[copper pine]

i mean i love richy and jb but i know both are... wayyyy past their prime et

wrong reply

[whole crypt]

thanks for reminding me of Ibuki and Nagato

powercreep happens, sucks to be an old ship

[copper pine]

same, nagathonk costed me 1500 cubes

that was hakuryuu shinano time release

and i was quite late on ark retro

[half plover]

which 2 cvs out of these are best to raise?

[rapid grail]

Core memories

[tame jungle]

August

[copper pine]

AVP and formi muse?

[tame jungle]

And ark royal

[half plover]

ty

[cobalt rapids]

not formi muse

[meager gyro]

yall think this can do a stronghold?

[tame jungle]

Definitely not formi muse unless you’re cultured

[half plover]

I need to replace 2 cvs soon so I need to prepare 😭

[whole crypt]

probably

Formidable muse is not bad but a slight chore to use

[half plover]

is using pr6 blueprints on AvP good?

[tame jungle]

No

[cobalt rapids]

no

[half plover]

what is a good ship to use pr6 blueprints on tho

[rapid grail]

AvP for the root skill she has
Chen Hai for the CV RLD stat + her Retro is good for W15 content later on
Ark Royal as a downgrade/sidegrade of AvP

[whole crypt]

a PR6 ship

[tame jungle]

Pr6 ships

Pretty sure you can coin up PR4

[cobalt rapids]

u can

[half plover]

yeah

[whole crypt]

if you haven't developed any PR6 ships then wait till you have a PR6 ship

[tame jungle]

So do that

[rapid grail]

general tip, use PR(x) blueprints for PR/DR ships from that PR season

[half plover]

alr

the only ships I can develop are hindenburg and felix. hinden is DR isnt she?

oh what type of planes does chen hai use, I only got one lmao

[copper pine]

chen hai retro is that good?

[whole crypt]

Chen Hai retrofit can hold her own in maybe up to 13
she's also one of the top options for 15 support outside of the Illustriouses

[rapid grail]

plus she gives CV RLD, pretty good stat

[copper pine]

tech doesnt matter beth, since in the end, we will farm them all

[rapid grail]

If only she was a bit more useful earlier on, raising her and Hwah Jah was cancerous

[whole crypt]

don't remind me what I put myself through

[jaunty vault]

tbh i didnt feel much difficulty raising them

[copper pine]

im at 108 now, just xp book her to oblivion

[barren flame]

What are some good mob tanks, I'm seeing some conflicting stuff between a guide and tier list

[jaunty vault]

wdym conflicting stuff

[copper pine]

dont use AL youtuber as a guide, for god sake

[barren flame]

One lists a bunch of CAs as best but the other had them really low and has CLs as higher

[copper pine]

whose tier list is that

[jaunty vault]

I'll need you to elaborate on that

like with screenshots

[whole crypt]

in before it's that trash tier list someone made

[copper pine]

ectl you mean?

[south sequoia]

I don't recall any discord affiliated tier list that somehow ranks even hulls?

[jaunty vault]

ectl doesnt tier same hulls in same category

[copper pine]

(did i just start a war)

[barren flame]

Samheart and community, samheart has CAs listed as mob tanks, and community has them listed lower

[copper pine]

what community????

[barren flame]

Also I confused Chesire as a CL but she's also a CA and not listed on the mob list

[jaunty vault]

I'll have no idea what youre talking about unless you show me some screenshots to work with

[copper pine]

sam's guide is prolly best at giving advices and also guiding.. the community i assume is ass

[jaunty vault]

community is ectl

[copper pine]

kek

[jaunty vault]

also samheart564 fleet building guide lists all boss tanks can mob tank too so you should read it properly too

[south sequoia]

I think it's best if we see the pictures first we're just going in circles since we aren't actually seeing anything

[whole crypt]

Cheshire is a CA she's not listed anywhere as a CL

[jaunty vault]

and.. he's gone

[copper pine]

any interesting judgement on ectl tierlists?

[whole crypt]

not like ECTL has a mob tank list shrug

[jaunty vault]

ectl is good tierlist if you can read

[jaunty vault]

yeah i dont see a problem here

[barren flame]

Cheshire description says amazing mob tanks, tier 0, Samheart doesn't list her

[copper pine]

huh......

[wind hazel]

she's under boss tank

[boreal wagon]

because sam's guide lists her as a boss tank because she can also do that

[wind hazel]

which you also can use for mob tank...

[jaunty vault]

@barren flame

[barren flame]

And that makes it conflicting

[atomic abyss]

I mean

[wind hazel]

no, it doesn't

[whole crypt]

ectl descs cheshire as a mob tank?

[south sequoia]

Cheshires description doesn't mention mob tanking

[copper pine]

cheshire more dedicated to High plane fights like W12 and W13, other than that, she isnt that great

[atomic abyss]

Tierlists don't have to agree anyways

[barren flame]

I didn't catch this comment or in thr guide, thanks though it clears everything up lol

[atomic abyss]

Main tank =/= mob tank

[copper pine]

any fight that needs some tanking and AA, cheshire is your go to tank both as boss fleet or mob fleet

[jaunty vault]

happy to help

[barren flame]

Sounds good, thanks for everyone's help clearing this up

[jaunty vault]

wrong reply

[copper pine]

kek

[jaunty vault]

atleast i dont ping others

[south sequoia]

By the way, is bearn meta better than impero?

[barren flame]

Second question though, is mogador good and where does she fit?

[whole crypt]

DPS

[jaunty vault]

yes anywhere you want a damage doing DD

[atomic abyss]

Except there aren't much content that want damage dealing DD so

[jaunty vault]

depends

[copper pine]

mogador is one of the best DD and she relies on her gun more since she is a gun DD instead of torpedo dd

[atomic abyss]

Mogador is great

The issue with her is that there are other stuff that want UR bulins

[jaunty vault]

depends

[barren flame]

Thats great, I don't really have many of those outside of the starters and yuudachi because back when I played I didn't need more

My URs right now are Alsace, New Jersey, and Mogador

[atomic abyss]

You'll want to MLB Alsace first then

[south sequoia]

If you don't have the bulins on hand to max out mogador don't use her

[barren flame]

She's already done

[copper pine]

do you have other UR that isnt maxed yet?

[barren flame]

So it's either Mogador or New Jersey

[copper pine]

NJ is.. more improtant imho

[atomic abyss]

NJ

[copper pine]

why you two blanked me??

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

[barren flame]

I have so many BBs though and I want to go for Friedrich as my next research

[copper pine]

oh... EN moment

[rapid grail]

General tip is to focus on Backline URs first before Frontline URs

[atomic abyss]

I mean, all the UR BBs are way ahead of the pack so

[barren flame]

I also have 1 UR Bulin and soon a second Mogador

[atomic abyss]

And yes, you will get more mileage out of a UR backliner

So if you don't have enough, just save the bulins first

For all you know, by the time you have 4 bulins
You may have a new UR

That might be higher priority

[rapid grail]

Vanguard rerun soon™️ lol. And the Moosashi's next, if she did not get powercreep treatment

[barren flame]

Alright I'll do NJ next because I only need 2 more bulin for her, but for Alsace is she more mob or boss?

[rapid grail]

Both

[real shuttle]

but does mogador's bug skill already fixed now?

[inner delta]

Not a bug and its been buffed

[barren flame]

I might save for musashi, or finish NJ and go Musashi after

[sharp socket]

oath ring boost all stats by 6% right

[boreal wagon]

100 is 6% oath is 9% so an additional 3%

[fathom sable]

Which to take?

[plain saffron]

it's not a bug it's a bad design, and as yuki said it's been buffed

[barren flame]

Type 1 if you don't have any

[steady beacon]

1.12/1.06 is very slightly less than 1.06, but as a close approximation, sure
Also, all non-static stats

It won't boost LCK or OXY or... I think there might be one more...

[plain saffron]

but speed can change on few ships

[steady beacon]

Oh right SPD

[sharp socket]

so its best to oath ship with more stats for a bigger benefit

[steady beacon]

I mean, those are either by skill or by equipment right
Both of which can all boost the non-static stats

[plain saffron]

no there is actually a ship that spd scale with lvl iirc

[sharp socket]

i need to find a ship that is both waifu and meta then

[steady beacon]

Oh that I didn't know

[plain saffron]

is it the tempesta ones?

[steady beacon]

Ohhhhhh
Uh
Ye
Hind and Galley scale with LB

[plain saffron]

ouh LB not lvl

does foch meta counts even if temporarily

[copper pine]

oh nagami is here...

[plain saffron]

i'm always here

forever

[copper pine]

how old you been in this game

[plain saffron]

tbh i don't remember

[fathom sable]

Also, can i use both on the same ship?

[inner delta]

Stat stack, skill doesnt

[granite summit]

is the spearfish really good for firing 4 rockets ontop of 4 torpedos?

[inner delta]

Good but expensive

[copper pine]

spearfish is the rainbow one right?

[inner delta]

Yes

[steady beacon]

One of the rainbow ones

[granite summit]

so better than the skypirate but still worse than the wyvern?

[whole crypt]

better and worse

no interception but you waste less overkill damage on mobs and can kill more shit with rockets having separate targeting

[night totem]

Is dev 20 Plymouth useable?

[whole crypt]

as a buffer and average CL otherwise

[night totem]

I see, ty for answering

[granite summit]

gotcha thanks

[sharp socket]

what happens if i overbuy bearn crystals

[steady beacon]

Pre sure they just turn into the meta shop currency

(Same as extra dupes obtained by any other method)

[whole crypt]

yeh

[rapid grail]

Focus on NJ for now, Musashi can wait

[forest palm]

would be lucky to see Musashi either way in 2024

[sharp socket]

i heard that some gearlab stuff can perform twice as good as tech box or research gear

is wyvern one of those

is there gold helldiver somewhere

[inland shoal]

gold helldiver is basically same as purple helldiver

[south sequoia]

gold helldiver only becomes an upgrade when upgraded to +13
but you'd rather spend your plates on more useful planes at that point, and you should be getting progress with your protocores to start buying tenrai prints

[sharp socket]

my tenrai is at 40/50

purple rigging node dont wanna come

what can i safely work on +13

[atomic abyss]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[sharp socket]

champy gun it is

what is an upgrade to hood’s twin 410 gun

can i give her my second champy gun

[atomic abyss]

if anything, i suppose the 457

there's not really a high rof AP gun besides that
ultimately hood isn't good on armoured targets anyways

[forest palm]

Twin 410 → Twin 410 Kai → 457 ~ Mk7

[sharp socket]

also does soyuz gun fit best on soyuz

[atomic abyss]

soyuz gun is a champy gun side grade

you use it if you need to tweak slower/faster BB timings

[sharp socket]

alr ill just leave it on soyuz then

[midnight pewter]

So i just got back to AL after 1.5 years anytips to prioritize to catch up？

[atomic abyss]

i mean
it largely depends on where you stopped

if anything, i suppose the event for the free UR and UR gun

[flat ruin]

how do you level a priority ship skill, i cant seem to find roon in academy

[steady beacon]

If you have her in dock, well
Try filtering Iron Blood CA to find her easier

[atomic abyss]

^

you level PR ships skills the same way as normal ships

[midnight pewter]

What free ur and a ur gun where do i get it im lost

[whole crypt]

in event shop

[atomic abyss]

start by doing the events

[meager gyro]

bro im never doing a stronghold again, 20 runs for the boss just for some mid rewards

[slender heart]

Get stronger

[atomic abyss]

mid rewards
what

[midnight pewter]

Shit the event is ending soon

[atomic abyss]

what are you talking about by "mid rewards"

[steady beacon]

What are you bringing that the boss took twenty runs

[forest palm]

they probably also missed the mid boss, or didn't get the rewards from it

[meager gyro]

i got like 4 gold mats in total and some plates

[forest palm]

yup definitely missed the mid boss

[whole crypt]

probably one of the side bosses and your fleet's jsut too weak

but that's basically OS in a nutshell for rewards across the whole month

it's just a few bosses with better drops and a lot of repeats with minor drops

[midnight pewter]

What main gun has 280mm and above

[cobalt rapids]

cb guns and bb guns

[lament tree]

Try to save for 2nd mog or grab other stuff?

[forest palm]

just chill till post event, you'll still have access to the shop

[meager gyro]

i did not just srsly take 20+ attempts for the boss just to get this

[cobalt rapids]

save 8k for bearm in case u dont get her

[forest palm]

look I was right

[whole crypt]

that's just your fleets being shit

[steady beacon]

I would take 20 attempts at the boss for those gold plates

[lament tree]

Since I don't have the units to go past D1 or do SP events, how much currency is needed for Second mog?

[plain saffron]

if you need 20+ attempts something is really wrong

[steady beacon]

Fortunately, it's more like one rotation

[plain saffron]

or it's zombie boss

[forest palm]

I swear I could clear a stronghold with that fleet wtf...

[whole crypt]

probably low adapts and weak fleet

[meager gyro]

boss had like 120 phases and i did 6 or 7 per battle

[forest palm]

or shit gear

[plain saffron]

yeah something is REALLY wrong

[forest palm]

brother ugh

[whole crypt]

your fleets too weak and not enough adapts, we oneshot stronghold bosses regularly

[cobalt rapids]

275 * 150
or how many more dailies u get idk

[meager gyro]

nah no way

thats def cap

[atomic abyss]

stronghold bosses are relatively weaker by comparison than abyssals

[slender heart]

Well then

[whole crypt]

what do you mean no way

[atomic abyss]

and yes, you are supposed to be able to 1 shot them after a certain point

[meager gyro]

theres no way you can oneshot the boss when i need like 20 runs for it

[atomic abyss]

i got a feeling this is a mix of low adapts, poor preparation

[forest palm]

even before it became rainbow bullshit, strongholds were very doable

[whole crypt]

what you want me to take a vid of it or something? it literally is a regular thing we do

[boreal wagon]

have you considered the fact that you can only one shot it if you know what you are doing and gearing properly

[lament tree]

59k more event currency for Second mog guess that's not happening

[forest palm]

just grind points until the event ends, then figure out what you want out of the shop

[plain saffron]

there's multiple people saying you can and there's 1 person saying it's cap, who would you believe

[whole crypt]

if you're sending a shitty fleet in with shitty gear and not enough adapts then yeh good luck with your 20 runs

[boreal wagon]

as with anything in azur lane if you just throw your fleets at it hoping something sticks without any thought or merit you will have an insanely bad time

[meager gyro]

no wonder i cant get any mats when thats the best you can get

[whole crypt]

you only get materials if you keep doing it regularly

[forest palm]

I swear I could take that fleet, and run it perfectly fine...

[whole crypt]

and if you don't improve your fleets and keep taking 20 runs every clear then yes it's going to be a chore

[boreal wagon]

strongholds are also more a source of special tokens than they are of mats, sure they give mats but that doesnt rlly compare to abyssals

[meager gyro]

what am i supoposed to improve when i got no mats?

[plain saffron]

that's actually not the best reward in opsi, it's less reward because it's actually easy

[whole crypt]

levels? enhancement? adapts? buy from port shops?

[plain saffron]

people clear opsi 1st month when they first release, nobody can create any gear from gear lab at that time. and can still kill the boss

[slender heart]

You're probably not gear your ships accordingly

[whole crypt]

let's not forget when OS release we did it at cap120

[lament tree]

In other news, would retro laffy and retro uni be enough to carry so i can start leveling other ships to make a 2nd fleet? Like swapping out one unit from vanguard and front

[meager gyro]

yeah my gear is fucking dogshit

[plain saffron]

then use good one that's available from tech boxes

like purple 406mm mk6

[meager gyro]

and i cant get any better gear bc i cant do anything bc of my bad gear

[whole crypt]

we've been clearing shit without lab gear 3 years ago

[plain saffron]

did you actually read what we said

[meager gyro]

rng says no to me

[mint flint]

theres a decent amount of gear you can get from research, techboxes and protocore shop that is good

[slender heart]

I suggest open a thread, and find out

[mint flint]

i personally still havent done opsi because im lazy

[lament tree]

Is it? I've seen you get help multiple times from others and they've said your gear is decent. But you also dismantled a shit ton to get instant Mats

[boreal wagon]

im probably not the best to anwser this question but just so it doesnt get swallowed whole depends on where youd be leveling and where you are at in the game

[plain saffron]

complaining more won't help you reduce that to one shot. instead show fleet and depot

[whole crypt]

have you considered actually spending time playing and collecting stuff rather than complaining you can't?

[plain saffron]

see what gear you have

[meager gyro]

im playing a lot but i get nothing in return

[lament tree]

9-1, the stage is already Safe, was just waiting on laffy retro to comfortably farm

[boreal wagon]

you should be able to get away with that

[mint flint]

should be fine

[plain saffron]

you have 2 options now
1.keep complaining that it's impossible on and on until heat death of universe and keep ignoring everything we said
or
2.actually show your gear so we can help

[slender heart]

Chill bud

[lament tree]

The other dude reminds me, I've gotten a good bit of gear since I last asked for advice, I should probably see if I can make any improvements

[plain saffron]

imagine being chill, i want to be mad all the time :madgeburg:

[lament tree]

They've already done this and every time, they don't use people's suggestions and then complain later

[whole crypt]

show us what you have so we can tell you what to use, wouldn't be the first time you picked something entirely wrong while trashing what we told you to use

[meager gyro]

gear

[iron bolt]

I just got St. Louis, how can I make her deal good dmg? She kinda sucks rn, not sure what weapons to use on her

[lament tree]

Help with possible Gear improvement for main fleet

[tame jungle]

St louis just kinda sucks in general

[atomic abyss]

^

[tame jungle]

Port queen unfortunately

[plain saffron]

also is that skin not banned here

[atomic abyss]

most CLs just don't deal good damage

and st louis is one of those

[plain saffron]

loli hate is real 😔

[tame jungle]

St Loli

[lament tree]

Does she at least have a niche?

[atomic abyss]

lol no

[tame jungle]

Yeah she does

[atomic abyss]

she's like, a slightly better cleveland at best

[tame jungle]

Display her 1 million skins as secretary

[sharp socket]

is this gold triple 155 better than the one helena has

[atomic abyss]

no

[sharp socket]

is it the shotgun spread

[tame jungle]

It’s got a horrible pattern

[atomic abyss]

passable for interception only

[sharp socket]

is the kai variant better

[atomic abyss]

significantly

[tame jungle]

Kai is decent

[lament tree]

Also, I made a thread if anyone wants to give me some gear help

[sharp socket]

ill shelve this for now then

[iron bolt]

Damn, It means I'm cooked 😪

[nova hawk]

What're we supposed to get from the monthly shops

Is there a list of priorities

[atomic abyss]

which montly shops
there are a few

[nova hawk]

Uh wait leme

From the two core shops

[raw swift]

Hello, when I do auto-repeat, my fleet comp is usually changed which made the tanker not stand at their right position in the comp, may I ask any way to fix that?

[sharp socket]

adjust button

[atomic abyss]

^

[nova hawk]

Any of these aux worth it

[atomic abyss]

the gold ceritifcate is only worth if you have bismarck zwei

[lament tree]

@whole crypt can I get your opinion on some gear stuff as well?

[atomic abyss]

otherwise none

[lament tree]

I like having more than one opinion on this stuff

[nova hawk]

Alright I'll get that then

[atomic abyss]

i would focus more on the other core shop

personally

[nova hawk]

Also how do i get more of these "gaming tickets"

[lament tree]

Or ender too if you're able too

[nova hawk]

What would u get from there

[atomic abyss]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[nova hawk]

Ah actually you got a point, I'll get those hamas missiles

[stone sluice]

People actually use it on Bz?

[atomic abyss]

oh yes
not all the time but it has use

[undone plover]

Most notably for 3* lethal clear I believe

[nova hawk]

How do i get more of these tickets btw

[inland shoal]

play minigames in the arcade

[sharp socket]

if u want to know the fastest one its either food stall or new years challenge

[main latch]

Who should i get first Agir or Odin

[cobalt rapids]

aegir

[atomic abyss]

Agir
There's not much reason to get Odin

[main latch]

Should i pick up Prinz Heinrich from the SSR ticket thing so i have some one to level for Agir ?

[raw swift]

Hello, what can I do with so many 4* bulins?
And how do I expand my dorm to 2nd floor btw?

[tame jungle]

You can just scrap a couple if you’re sure you’re not gonna use them

[cobalt rapids]

mlb ur elite ships
click the contruction sign till max expansion then u can purchase 2nd floor

[raw swift]

So I've to level them up? But there are so many elite ship idk who to actually use on

[novel solstice]

First, limit break any that you are actually using. Then limit break any that are from a faction where you need the faction points to unlock PR ships you want. Then limit break anything else.

[noble wyvern]

im kinda confuse on how to use this new feature thing "storage"

and what does this mean?

[small fern]

Is Friederich der große a good pr ship

[atomic abyss]

for storage, refer to this image

the pic you sent means that you basically stopped playing for too long

and are now being given returner rewards

[noble wyvern]

oh i cant put my oil and coins i have rn in the storage?

[atomic abyss]

yes, still extremely good, and the no. 1 recommendation to get

[atomic abyss]

yes, storage is only for resources collected from mails

[noble wyvern]

i see so a return event (i just cameback bc im not busy for now)

[atomic abyss]

yes

[small fern]

I better start hoarding them Germans

Well discovering , Germans

[noble wyvern]

should i spent all my

stuff on the new banner? (limited time event)

[small fern]

Hell yeah

[atomic abyss]

stop after getting alsace

[small fern]

Yeah there what he said

[noble wyvern]

whats this?

[atomic abyss]

see pins

under wishing well

[noble wyvern]

hm k

[small fern]

Wish for a ship you want in the default banner

I got NJ from there 💀

[old zodiac]

does any ship work on war archives?

[tame jungle]

do not select UR for wishing well

[atomic abyss]

yes, outside hard mode requirements ofc

[noble wyvern]

also did i miss the uh icon app ship? (hopefully i didnt :spd_babystare: )

[atomic abyss]

the what

[tame jungle]

you mean alsace?

[atomic abyss]

the what (2)

[tame jungle]

the what (2) - copy

[atomic abyss]

app icon ship is enterprise
who is permanent and very easy to get

[plain saffron]

the what (2) - copy - final

[noble wyvern]

did i miss enterprise in the medal shop?

[plain saffron]

you mean saratoga :sarawink:

[atomic abyss]

idk what server you're on

maybe you did

[noble wyvern]

(little enterpriser)

[atomic abyss]

yes, you missed a chance to get her

you missed CV and BB

[small fern]

I did it's too late

I already got NJ

Not hood though funnily enough

[noble wyvern]

i should pick light ship option in the limited thing?

[atomic abyss]

how about you don't pick anything in wishing well
and focus on getting the limited UR first

[wild whale]

what pool of ssrs does this pull from

[noble wyvern]

.

i want to go-

[undone plover]

well we have BB again on lil-E so u only missed CV

[atomic abyss]

the base pool of SSRs

[noble wyvern]

and spent all my drills?

[sharp token]

what is similar to Visitors Dyed in Red WA D3 in campaign map?

[whole crypt]

just don't do it

[atomic abyss]

don't count on getting a ship
and even if you do get a ship, it's most likely a common

[atomic abyss]

similar in what sense

[atomic abyss]

yeah...?

[noble wyvern]

uh ok-

[atomic abyss]

not talking to you

[sharp token]

i mean like similar level of enemies and threat

[atomic abyss]

divergent chessboard then

[noble wyvern]

uh i got this in 4th drill spent good or nah

[atomic abyss]

meh

expensive portland

[whole crypt]

decent but nothing special

[small fern]

Pretty okay

[noble wyvern]

aw

[sharp token]

for campaign map what chapter?

[whole crypt]

VDIR D maps should be around ch9

[small fern]

I need to know someone who got Alsace in less pulls than me ( 6 pulls )

[keen sable]

nothing, it's uniquely bad

[noble wyvern]

prinz eugen?

[atomic abyss]

9-4

[atomic abyss]

eugen is trash

[small fern]

I got everyone except brennus

Whyyy

It happened with Volga now with brennus I think I'm cursed

[noble wyvern]

hm yorktown without town?

[atomic abyss]

just as trash

[noble wyvern]

fleuret?-

[small fern]

What do you do to get the TB skins for the upgrades

[eternal basalt]

I got 8 ... sorry to dissapoint. Brennus in 11 though

[cobalt rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[small fern]

Beat me with brennus

are cats worth it to level

[rose cosmos]

what is the best choice of the newcomer mission rewards

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[zinc turret]

How hard is abyssal ?

[small fern]

Well which cats then

[cobalt rapids]

enty or hood, depends who ure missing

[atomic abyss]

enterprise or hood
depends on what you have

[noble wyvern]

+aber crombie and admiral hippie omega icon

Good?

[eternal basalt]

That's 4 so rather easy

[rose cosmos]

is san diego worth it

[atomic abyss]

all shit

[noble wyvern]

nelson?-

[atomic abyss]

not really
unless you already have hood AND enterprise

[keen sable]

<@&472236072743600148> #gameplay-help message trophy posting

[atomic abyss]

great once retrofit

[zinc turret]

Is it as hard as another corrosion 4 zone ?

[rose cosmos]

I don't have both

[small fern]

I just got opsi what do I do

[rose cosmos]

I'm building nelson though

[atomic abyss]

lol no, way harder

[eternal basalt]

Harder, level 116 boss

[zinc turret]

[atomic abyss]

can we see what ships you have
filter out to Super Rare and Elite BB and CV

[small fern]

Is st Louis a good pr ship

[atomic abyss]

that's not really a trophy no

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Abyssal

[wild whale]

trophy rule also ianctive

[keen sable]

try one and see if trophy posting is allowed in gph

[eternal basalt]

112 boss even 0_o

[atomic abyss]

enterprise so you can drop kaga

[atomic abyss]

Look, are you the mod here or am I the mod

If anything, the issue is off topic, not trophy

[undone plover]

could also just give ppl a warning no need to be so aggressive

[keen sable]

you're an admin. no mods seen.

[zinc turret]

Lol luckily i havnt started it yet

[small fern]

Should i research ibuki izumo or roon

I got saint louis too is she good

[atomic abyss]

you only need to research 1 PR1 ship

start FDG next

[worldly pewter]

it is very hard to int a c4 abyssal especially when u have max adapt for it now

[small fern]

I , cant

i only have 230 iron blood tech points

[atomic abyss]

start roon then
and farm divergent chessboard war archives once this event ends

[small fern]

Alrighty those give germans right

[atomic abyss]

yes

[soft raft]

All of PR1 is essentially tech point fodder at this point
The only one who had some semblance of mainline use was Monarch until Hood unique augment and Nelson retro happened

[small fern]

😦

Sadge af

[worldly pewter]

how can someone top this event 30/30 ?

[plain saffron]

get a player that actually plays the game

[cobalt rapids]

by pairing with urself

[worldly pewter]

lets say i have a singular person that is playing this game
what should i do with him ?

[eternal basalt]

That event is active?

Give him your UID

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[worldly pewter]

a nice way to make people communicate with each others

[eternal basalt]

(mostly themselves, yes)

[worldly pewter]

[whole crypt]

it needs a brand new or returning player, we don't get enough of those

[paper mural]

AFAIK Goldburn is BiS for Unzen and Hindenburg. Will they be noticeably worse if they instead equip the next best thing?

[cobalt rapids]

theres no bis but its a great aux

and idk the context for next best thing is

[paper mural]

They're CB's that specialize in dealing damage, and Goldburn is a piece of equipment that aids in that more than other gears. Sounds pretty BiS to me

[cobalt rapids]

survability ? no they wont be noticeably worse by using a toolkit
reload ? hinden not rly, unzen might miss a trp launch which might be significant ig

they are CAs not CBs

[hollow gust]

Both are high dps glass cannons compared to CBs

[cobalt rapids]

ig port lvl tankiness is glass cannon now

[hollow gust]

compared to CBs

[viscid swift]

It's not, Best in Slot means best for any and all given scenarios

[cobalt rapids]

u edit that smh

[viscid swift]

you can't really say that for 95% of gear in this game

[paper mural]

What are the exceptions then? Content where they are prone to dying easily?

[hollow gust]

When you want them to do more damage

[viscid swift]

well in content where extra evasion would be preferable potentially or where Oxy Torps and/or Fumos might be better

as always everything is contextual and gear depends on the content you're tackling and the fleet you're using

[paper mural]

Can you name an example of them preferring Fumo over Goldburn? Same for Oxy torp

[viscid swift]

well just content where you can sack the HP entirely and go all in on damage
Rodney META is a good example of this

[cobalt rapids]

hinden prefers fumo whenever 550 hp wont matter for her surv
unzen prefers fumo whenever the 550 hp doesnt matter for surv and rld doesnt mattter for additional trp salvo
unzen prefers oxytrp over fumo when her dmg is skewed on torps eg modney

[viscid swift]

Unzen running one or double oxy torp was pretty much the standard

[paper mural]

I see now. I thought the selling point of Goldburn was the RLD boost, but it's mostly that + the HP, making it a balanced pick between offense and survivability

[cobalt rapids]

its both

[viscid swift]

The reload boost can come in handy but scenarios where it's used soly for that is rare

[cobalt rapids]

if it was just for rld it would be just another autoloader
if it was just hp aux it would be just another 550 hp aux
goldburn is both at the same time thats why its strong

[whole crypt]

doesn't goldburn add more rld than loader

[cobalt rapids]

+11 autoloader

[hollow gust]

Using autoloader over golburn is

[paper mural]

Aside from Goldburn, are there such gears that are balanced between more damage and more survivability?

[cobalt rapids]

tracto ig

[whole crypt]

if +11 loader they're both 38 rld but I guess loader adds like 8FP?

[sweet delta]

There are Eva+fp or Eva+hit gear but they're usually just not useful at all

[paper mural]

So whatever does exist, it's just noticeably worse than Goldburn in this regard anyway

[turbid dawn]

Is there any way to collect just FochM so I can start skill training without having to claim the other tiers?

[inner delta]

no

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with claiming the other tiers

[soft raft]

No
Also why wouldnt you want to caim everything?

[paper mural]

Hit the EXP chip cap, I guess

[turbid dawn]

Well that's kinda BS, and I dont wanna collect the oil

[whole crypt]

I mean before META dock people wanted to claim everything but the ship, but never only the ship

just spend the oil that's like 1.5 runs of ch12

[low juniper]

Is this good for Mog

[atomic abyss]

give her the UR DD gun

[whole crypt]

where's her gun

[atomic abyss]

she needs at least one french gear for her skill

[low juniper]

It's on Laffii

[atomic abyss]

swap

[whole crypt]

she uses it better than Laffey

[tranquil hemlock]

Yall have any recommendation for Sr ship?

[atomic abyss]

Laff II gun damage is not as good as Mogador's anyways

[whole crypt]

I recommend not looking at SR ships if you're not sure

[tranquil hemlock]

But i kinda like toso

[low juniper]

I switched the gun, what about the rest kf the gear?

[tranquil hemlock]

And i saw that i can get some free sr

[sweet delta]

In terms of defensive+offensive capability,
If rudder or toolkit is a 1+0 and oxytorp or fumo is a 0+1, goldburn would be like a 0.9+0.2 and battle tracto like 0.3+0.5

[whole crypt]

rarity isn't directly related to power (unless rainbow I guess), game has plenty of trash SRs
what do you actually want/need

[paper mural]

So mostly defensive, with a touch of offense, is what you're saying Goldburn is

[tranquil hemlock]

Idk they all look cool but i think i can get 2 sr for free

[low juniper]

How's this

[whole crypt]

how new are you

[atomic abyss]

he is extremely new

[sweet delta]

I'm also saying that almost all other auxes that mix offense and defense like battle tracto are bad

[tranquil hemlock]

Which one sshould i pick

[atomic abyss]

das good

[tranquil hemlock]

1 day ago

[soft raft]

1. That's technically not free since you still need to spend 80 medals
2. Hood

[atomic abyss]

pick hood from BB
ignore the other

[whole crypt]

do you actually have 80/160 medals

[eternal basalt]

You can't afford any... 0 medals

[tranquil hemlock]

I can retired ships?

[eternal basalt]

Best to buy other stuff from that storre

[whole crypt]

what ships can you retire to get that many medals that won't be more useful than that SR

[paper mural]

Fair enough. Then going forward, I'm going to treat Goldburn as my only real option for mixing offense and defense in one single piece of gear

Others, I'd probably get more value from something else entirely at that point

[turbid dawn]

It gave me 4k oil, now I gotta do another 5 runs of CH12, ew

[tranquil hemlock]

Random 3 star and some 4star drop from battle?

[soft raft]

tf you mean "Ew"

[whole crypt]

I'd like that 4k oil thx
what's wrong with playing the game

[soft raft]

mainly and rare or Elite dupes yes

[turbid dawn]

I have too much oil and not enough cog chips

[eternal basalt]

@sweet delta Whats with the face... he didn't even buy the 1000 core from that shop

[whole crypt]

Hood is the only useful ship of those 2 selectors
if you're really new won't be great anyway

[viscid swift]

well fantastic, farming W12+ helps with exactly that

[whole crypt]

you know ch12+ drops chips right?

[tranquil hemlock]

Alr ty

[viscid swift]

1k specialized Core does not take priority over Hood for a day old player

[paper mural]

Meant to ask one more thing. Which event gave the UR FCR aux? UvH's?

[soft raft]

Vanguard

[whole crypt]

I recommend you show us what you're trying to retire first though, with any chance you'll be retiring a ship that'll be useful to you now

[paper mural]

It'll be a while before it comes back then, looks like

[turbid dawn]

Not as much as I spend them sadly

[eternal basalt]

Alsace does not beat Hood

[whole crypt]

well that's lategame for you

[viscid swift]

who said they have Alsace

[tranquil hemlock]

I think ill just keep helena and unicorn as 4 star?

[viscid swift]

or any bullins for that matter

[whole crypt]

yeh those 2 are good

[atomic abyss]

keep your starter too
and bulins

[eternal basalt]

Well, then get Alsaca, 4 more days

[whole crypt]

so is your starter DD

[soft raft]

yeah at least keep Helena, Unicorn, Portland, Pennsylvania, and your starter

And Nelson if you have her too

[viscid swift]

ah yes, just pull her, great advice /s

[tranquil hemlock]

Yup i choose lafey

[turbid dawn]

Yeah 'm just over 310 ship at 120+ and still not max RLD tech for Bb and CV

[whole crypt]

the thing is if you don't run 12+ you're not getting more chips either

[tranquil hemlock]

Wait i think i retired portland

[turbid dawn]

I only ever do 12-4 and 13-4

[inner delta]

shop sell chip

[soft raft]

Bruh
But at least she's easily (re-)obtainable from guild shop

[silk helm]

Lock yo ships

[viscid swift]

yes but if you have "too much oil" then that means you're not farming them enough

[tranquil hemlock]

Another thing is i dont think i can lock much ship

[whole crypt]

are you still trying to get bunker hill? if not there's no reason to be in 13-4

[tranquil hemlock]

Prob going for waifu>meta when i get better

[turbid dawn]

I just go 13-4 when the fleet I'm levelling can do it for more chips whole farming

[viscid swift]

13-1 is better than 13-4 for chips

[low juniper]

Is Mog more of a boss or mob ship, or can she do both?

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
you can keep all the SRs you want later

[soft raft]

the game literally gives you a prompt to lock the ship when you get them for the first time
And you can go into their stat screen and press lock

[viscid swift]

she can do both

[turbid dawn]

And I like to be efficient with oil sadly, I only ever farm with 120 mood+

[viscid swift]

yeah might want to kick that habbit

[whole crypt]

if you want to chip farm do 13-1 or 14-1

[turbid dawn]

So basically 1 run, do other shit repeat

[whole crypt]

13-4 is bunker hill/coins

[viscid swift]

why bother worrying about efficiency to that degree when you're literally capped on chips

[tranquil hemlock]

Also i think i can get 1 copy of the free UR

is she good if compair with other URS?

[whole crypt]

if you care about efficiency then even less reason to run 13-4 over 13-1

[viscid swift]

she's good, if you can limit break her

[turbid dawn]

Idk I've just always done it, I like being efficient ig. And still haven't kicked the habit since returning and having that clearing mode a thing

[whole crypt]

I mean you're chip capped, at that point XP/oil is meaningless to you

[viscid swift]

well, I've said my piece

[tranquil hemlock]

I can use the UR loli thingy instead of her copy right?

[eternal basalt]

See, it was that easy

[viscid swift]

you can use UR Bullins to limit break her yes

[soft raft]

yeah
that's the entire point of the bullins

[tranquil hemlock]

How rrare are the lolies?

[viscid swift]

UR Bullins?

[whole crypt]

purples you get like 4 a week

[tranquil hemlock]

Ye

[whole crypt]

gold less, rainbow something like 1.5 a month

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#bulins

[eternal basalt]

1.5 if you buy them for medals, and not waste them on SRs

[tranquil hemlock]

Oke

[hushed cliff]

So is Enty actually worth using

[whole crypt]

if you don't have rainbow CVs definitely

[cobalt rapids]

depends where and ur dock

[hushed cliff]

I have a MLB Enty from when I first started playing and I need to widen my carrier pool

[viscid swift]

the month has barely started
They'll have plenty of time get the medals for both Hood and the Specialized Cores

[eternal basalt]

But only 4 days for Alsaca

[viscid swift]

what does that have to do with anything

[eternal basalt]

Like I said why buy Hood if you can get Alsaca

[crimson glacier]

hood good

[viscid swift]

because Hood is guranteed and Alsace is an RNG pull and they've only been playing for a day

meaning they have hardly any cubes and no UR Bullins

[crimson glacier]

and alsace withoyt limit breaks isnt good

[soft raft]

Hood will also be faster to raise and MLB compared to Alsace

[undone plover]

does this mean there is 3 mob > 1 boss > 3 mob > 1 boss for 15-3?

[sweet delta]

3121

[cobalt rapids]

3 mob > 1 boss > 2 mob > final boss

[eternal basalt]

Boss is a battle too

[undone plover]

is lusty, langley kai, indep good enough for support fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

no chen hai ?

[undone plover]

lemme check but def not retroed and raised

[soft raft]

what about Indomitable and Implacable? do you have them?

Damn

[undone plover]

before my time

[jaunty vault]

did you do /w15 in bot spam and read it

[inner delta]

lusty muse or little lusty?

[jade ibex]

what can I replace Brest here with? since or can she work at dev 29?

[whole crypt]

Illustrious Muse is in core shop but if you're going to raise a new ship Chen Hai is at least worth tech

[viscid swift]

just wait for Dev 30 or use Anchorage at that point

[undone plover]

can get muse from core but rather not if she isnt a major upgrade over langley/indep since those 2 are ready

[jaunty vault]

brest can work at dev29

[whole crypt]

just raise Chen Hai, she's CV RLD anyway

[inner delta]

nah, i was asking if you already have, if not dont buy

[cobalt rapids]

see if u got chen hai

[whole crypt]

he has but not raised

[undone plover]

just checked dont have chen hai either

[whole crypt]

sad

[jade ibex]

ancho better than cheshire?

[hollow gust]

How you gonna fight w15 at that state

[viscid swift]

absolutely

[whole crypt]

come back when you're actually ready then

[viscid swift]

Cheshire is far too fragile to main tank W15

[undone plover]

are those 2 that bad

[whole crypt]

Cheshire is still good to AA for 15 but not main tank

[worldly pewter]

around 32/year

[eternal basalt]

Hmmm, expecting 4 reruns?

[tired condor]

would i still be able to play the event on 6/12

[eternal basalt]

Yes

[tired condor]

so i can still get 40 vouchers right

[eternal basalt]

Should be, yes

[stark quiver]

there is event?

[soft raft]

please tell me you're joking

[stark quiver]

oh wait i thought rerun or something lmao

[elfin hollow]

Chapayev is for mob or boss fleet?

[eternal basalt]

Final days of a 23 day event

[soft raft]

doesnt really matter

[kind slate]

whats the difference between the submarine torps? im wondering what to give wolfpack (u81, u96, u47)
also is lvl 100 fine for w14?

[whole crypt]

if not sure just use biddder

anything you want to use for lethal 14 should be at least 120

[cobalt rapids]

consider raising ships to 120 before deciding to push content with

[kind slate]

aight. whats the diffence between bidder and mk16? i have 1 mk16 but no bidder

[steady beacon]

Bidder has magnetic homing

[kind slate]

where can i get it?

[steady beacon]

Gear Lab from the Mark VIII torpedo (prints obtainable from the submarine weekly)

Note that obtaining the Mark VIII can take forever depending on RNG

[kind slate]

whats the bot command for useless gear?

[worldly pewter]

equip

[topaz smelt]

Pretty much for anything campaign related you want mixed torps

[meager gyro]

anchorage got useful at dev 25 right?

[soft raft]

She would still very much like to be at D30

Yes she gets all of her bulk at D25 but imo making exceptions to the D30 rule leads to a whole other can of worms that overcomplicate explaning it

[meager gyro]

is she good for opsi?

[soft raft]

She's one of the best tanks in the game

[meager gyro]

why am i even asking i got no gear for her anyway

[kind slate]

so like 2 different torps on a single sub? or like using different pairs in a fleet?

[tranquil hemlock]

Any use case for her?

[soft raft]

nope
at least outside of faction fleet memery but even for that, PoW w/ Aug exists

[steady beacon]

Two different torps on single sub
Different firing times allows you to spread the torpedoes out to maintain uptime

And also minimise wastage

[undone plover]

+1 acc

[silk helm]

do i start working on brest? she's the only non pr1 i have unlocked 😭

[eager mulch]

work on PR4

[novel condor]

Brest is pr1?

[silk helm]

need fleet tech

[undone plover]

ideally u want to do FdG/anchorage/AvP
or PR2-3 for rookie missions (assuming u did 1 from PR1 already)
so either try and get some USS/KMS fleettech or just do brest till u have enough

[sweet delta]

Why is pow relevant for faction fleet?

[silk helm]

what is pow 💥

[sweet delta]

Prince of wales

[eager mulch]

KGV class BB with KGV, Dork, PoW and Anson

and Howe

[kind slate]

im running out of gear depot space. i already deleted everything on the 'safe-to-scrap' list. how many of each gear type should i keep? talking abt purple gear

[cobalt rapids]

put ur gear on ur ships

[soft raft]

just put random gear on random ships

[fervent hearth]

is there a research lab priority list?

[soft raft]

like in terms of ship priority or what researches are good?

[eager mulch]

I don’t have enough rainbow gear to fully equip my rainbow ships

[kind slate]

do gear on ships not take space?

[fervent hearth]

gear lab

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[atomic abyss]

they do not yes

[cobalt rapids]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[vagrant spoke]

Now that the event ur bb is added to gearlab, is it a top priority?

[kind slate]

i literally cannot get purple torps. ive opened like 200 purple boxes and got none. this is pain.

[viscid swift]

Mk7? no

[atomic abyss]

far from it

[steady beacon]

... Are you talking about purple submarine torps?

[kind slate]

yes. the ones you need to craft bidder and mk16

[atomic abyss]

[steady beacon]

They cannot be found in boxes

[kind slate]

what.

[sweet delta]

wiki.

[atomic abyss]

arent they sub weekly only
for bidder at least

[kind slate]

whaaaaaaaaaaat..... ;-; i cry

[steady beacon]

Mark VIII is def sub weekly only ye
And upon checking, it seems the Mark 16 precursor is as well (although should be a BP drop some event stage probably)

[atomic abyss]

...i'm pretty sure you can't find any sub gear in normal gear boxes actually

[steady beacon]

Actually, Mark 16 is BP drop in 13-4 I'm pretty sure...

[atomic abyss]

yes, pretty sure it is 13-4 at least

[steady beacon]

One of the adorable references in campaign

[kind slate]

i dont have the gear to go to sub weekly. this is a paradox

[atomic abyss]

I am pretty sure you can do lv 65 sub weekly with default gear...

[sweet delta]

Level 65 sub weekly is doable with purple gear

by the solo starter sub

[kind slate]

whats default again? do i give them medkits for aux?

[wraith oyster]

i should be majorly focusing my coins into upgrading lecture room right

[kind slate]

what do i give them?

[sweet delta]

https://youtu.be/rYFzdjTD_eQ?si=0jUte3ZagKOt668s

[wraith oyster]

doesnt have royal fortune i assume?

[eager mulch]

AL ytube

[wraith oyster]

wait i just realized i dont even need to upgrade royal's skills and stuff cause i already did lvl 75 sub weekly, i just wasted a week levelling them

[kind slate]

what do i do to get the auto? or does it not exist? for sub weekly

[sweet delta]

S rank

[undone plover]

is g7e + bidder combo best in w15?
like sample fleet?
or full g7e fine?

between u37/homura who best with alba + flasher? no archer yet or can wait till i raise 81

[sweet delta]

37 for campaign, homura for non dangerous bosses

[wraith oyster]

subs are actually important for w15 i take it?

[topaz smelt]

They help but necessary

[atomic abyss]

*not mandatory

[topaz smelt]

It's more of if you're struggling with something just throw subs at it

If you're still struggling get a new fleet

[wraith oyster]

how aa heavy is w14 compared to 13

[topaz smelt]

Negative

[atomic abyss]

much less significant

the threat in w14 is more akin to w11
BB setting your flag on fire, suicide boats
and in 14-3/4, enemy subs are the new fad

[modest moat]

Hey, gph. I just started playing again after a months long break; the last event I played was for Soyuz.

Have I missed anything new that’s important to know?

[wraith oyster]

get alsace

[modest moat]

I did

[atomic abyss]

and this thing

[wraith oyster]

(obviously) sorry i just had to say it

[kind slate]

is there much difference between these? do i make/use whatevers convinient?

[modest moat]

You’re fine

I’m mostly thinking about new gear and new ships between then and now

[atomic abyss]

bidders are basically your biggest bang for your buck
the g7e below it is a magnetic

[wraith oyster]

also if anyone hasnt told you yet, focus your bulins into alsace over mogador easily

[modest moat]

Alsace is meta defining, now?

I haven’t paid attention to her power

[atomic abyss]

she is about as meta defining as soyuz

that's the best way to understand it

[modest moat]

Tbh I don’t know how important Soyuz is either lol

[wraith oyster]

thought alsace considered better than soyuz and sashi already

[atomic abyss]

what, no

at the very most, the same level

[modest moat]

Where does she rank next to bis2

[atomic abyss]

soyuz, musashi and alsace all rank below bis2

[modest moat]

I figured

[atomic abyss]

no one else ranks the same level as bis2

[wraith oyster]

someone told me they're at the middle between bis2 and nj

[atomic abyss]

tf

i mean that's every rainbow BB outside warpsite and fdg

[wraith oyster]

well they said that for musashi

[silk helm]

someone from yt?

[modest moat]

Is NJ at the bottom now? Besides for like warspite which doesn’t even count

[atomic abyss]

fdg is still below NJ

the difference is that fdg doesn't take rainbow bulins sooooooooooo

[modest moat]

I have all the rainbows at this point

So, I’ll ask again, is there anything important I missed between Soyuz and now? I saw a German mini event and a muse event, were those important at all?

[atomic abyss]

nope

it wasn't even a german mini event

[modest moat]

Fair enough, I was hardly paying attention tbh lol

[atomic abyss]

i guess friederich karl is a very good tank but that's about it
not anchorage tier at least

[wraith oyster]

was kronshtadt rerun after or before soyuz

[atomic abyss]

after

[wraith oyster]

u missed that

[atomic abyss]

meh
volga is the bigger grab of that event, not kron anyways

[modest moat]

I do have kron and volga. I guess I missed getting a second copy of kron gun, but I think I’ll live

[wraith oyster]

u already grabbed mogador gun right

[modest moat]

Thanks for the info @wraith oyster @atomic abyss

Yeah

[wraith oyster]

they saying its generally best dd gun now

[modest moat]

Are the torpedoes any good? I assume not

[atomic abyss]

meh nothing special

[topaz smelt]

not mag, not good

[modest moat]

If you can’t beat quad mags, you ain’t nothin

[wraith oyster]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQDYIUTMP2Tdjdo0jK8_WhgUfdT_c8FA6TQLuq6mypFyDGJSupBbS-YCzDUFX9lkNRphYOxsGzCz2tj/pubhtml#

go to last tab in the doc

just to clarify, new dd gun is not better than 76mm on shimakaze right

[eager mulch]

It is better, the single 113mm that is

[modest moat]

Oh, Colorado retrofit? I missed that

[vale spindle]

its basically the same thing

[modest moat]

Just waiting for Maryland retrofit now

[wraith oyster]

so if i have 76mm no point putting my twin 138.6 on shima cause theres better ppl for it?

[modest moat]

Oh, is North Carolina’s aug mod meta shaking at all?

[eager mulch]

shima would hate the twin 138.6

[topaz smelt]

shima doesnt want it to begin with

[wraith oyster]

ppl just told me its better/the same tho

[modest moat]

Imagine if nc aug mod had no cooldown… smh look what they took from you

[wraith oyster]

is there another new dd gun besides the 138.6???

[topaz smelt]

its just strictly worse on shima

[boreal wagon]

i think the confusion that occured here is that people thought you were asking for the new dd gun in gearlab

[topaz smelt]

ncs fake

[wraith oyster]

ohhh, i mean mogador gun sorry

[modest moat]

Thanks again for the pointers, yall

[wraith oyster]

i meant mogador gun is not better than 76 on shimakaze right

[tame jungle]

Correct

She just doesn’t do enough damage with her main guns to justify using it

[wraith oyster]

who are the others with AoA barrages that dont want the 138.6 over like the twin 100

[tame jungle]

From the top of my head kazagumo and kawakaze

[cobalt rapids]

kaza aya kawa

[tame jungle]

I knew i forgot one

[cobalt rapids]

well i prob forgot other aswell some non ijn ones

[wraith oyster]

the twin 100 is kaza best gun? is there a secondary option

[cobalt rapids]

76

[wraith oyster]

okay so same as shima, word

[cobalt rapids]

or single 113 now no cap

[wraith oyster]

yeah i dont farm opsi enough for gear lab weapons ngl

wait which twin 100 is the correct one, or is there only 1 twin 100

[tame jungle]

There’s the rainbow and the gold one

And the gold one is not very good

[torn phoenix]

is Operation Siren a good way to get exp for ships?

[wraith oyster]

so use 76 over the gold 100?

[viscid swift]

yes

[wraith oyster]

is 76 a prior to enhance when shima and kaza are using them? only asking since they dont really do any main gun dmg

[tame jungle]

Opsi is not very good for farming levels, but it also doesn’t cost any oil

[jade ibex]

if you have to choose between black and white shell which one?

[inland shoal]

More often than not white

[old zodiac]

Im trying to make a vanguard out of the ships on guild shop..which ones to buy that go together?

[cobalt rapids]

helena and portland

[old zodiac]

is there a 3rd one?

[wraith oyster]

you use portland, your starter, and helena and they go great for awhile

[old zodiac]

aight ty

[little tree]

I cant beat the sp boss battle Any one able to help

[topaz smelt]

level ships

use real gear

mlb ships

[keen sable]

tallinn z23 portland boss. nelson and middy also

ok simpler. swap unicorn and enterprise and fleet 1 is boss

[little tree]

I dont have matts

[little tree]

Okay ill try that

[tame jungle]

Then do not use those ships

[keen sable]

find better ships then. you can't beat sp with bad ships

[little tree]

I mean only other ships I got

[keen sable]

what lb is volga?

[little tree]

0

[keen sable]

intrepid >> shinano but still too low level to actually be effective

[little tree]

I have 4 gold bullins but I was saving them for hood

[topaz smelt]

your gear is pretty bad too, a lot of negative damage stuff equipped

[little tree]

I tried reading the gear help page but a lot of it didn't make sense to me

[keen sable]

who is your second dd? how are you even farming D3? kimberly??

[whole crypt]

what didn't make sense to you

[jade ibex]

if u auto 15-4 on clear mode does the boss fleet hit the boss 3 times?

[topaz smelt]

the colors

[topaz smelt]

ye theres no debuff

[little tree]

How I clear d3

[wraith oyster]

is there a clear better ship between heinrich and roon muse or is it situational

[little tree]

I cant tell what's good and not I have a hard time finding what's good for my ships

[keen sable]

make a thread and show all gear

[zinc turret]

wut u cant ? u far above the requirement tho

[little tree]

i CAN i cant clear SP

[keen sable]

i think it was a statement

[wraith oyster]

he was saying that pic is what he used to do d3

[zinc turret]

owh i tough he ask how to clear d3

[whole crypt]

which gear help page? this? https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[wraith oyster]

any thoughts on this

[zinc turret]

u didnt use tank for the boss fleet ?

[whole crypt]

Heinrich because Roon Muse doesn't have tech

[little tree]

Whats that

[zinc turret]

i bet ur vanguard die

[little tree]

It did

[whole crypt]

he's got more problems than just missing tanks

[wraith oyster]

huh

[zinc turret]

use tank then

[little tree]

Z23 Died first with Talin last

[whole crypt]

Roon Muse does not contribute to fleet tech

[wraith oyster]

tallinn is his tank

[wraith oyster]

idc about that, i just mean overall for use

[whole crypt]

Roon Muse is still meh

[zinc turret]

wut ? the one with z23 is ur bossing fleet ?

[little tree]

yea

[whole crypt]

personally I wouldn't use either

[wraith oyster]

so just purely usability you say heinrich is generally better?

i have to use heinrich in opsi until i get anchorage or agir

[whole crypt]

ehhhh I think Heinrich hits harder but I'm not sure, don't you have any other tanks

[wraith oyster]

nah guam busy

[whole crypt]

where's Portland

[zinc turret]

idk man ur bossing fleet and mobbing fleet kinda weird

[wraith oyster]

not as good as heinrich is where portland is

[little tree]

What i uuse for D3 is what i used for Boss -helna for kimberly

[whole crypt]

then you need to raise Portland

[little tree]

Portland is 115?

[whole crypt]

I'm not talking to you

[fathom cargo]

does anyone remember which event had owari as one of the ships

[wraith oyster]

why? heinrich still gonna be better than portland

[zinc turret]

first of all unicorn better at mobbing and enterprise better at bossing

[whole crypt]

Heinrich is like... 3% more eHP than Portland

[somber wyvern]

Is there a place where people show off builds for OS?

[meager gyro]

what avp skill to level first?

[whole crypt]

technically her slow skill but you want all of them, you won't have her in a usable state before you finish leveling her skills anyway

[wraith oyster]

yeah but if shes tankier and does more dmg than why build portland

[topaz smelt]

cuz you need a 2nd tank

[wraith oyster]

this what im making for opsi based on what i've got, unicorn fleet is gonna be uni hood independence.

[gloomy mesa]

Building Portland is not exactly expensive

[wraith oyster]

got alsace too now so idk where shes going

[zinc turret]

second , i doubt u can clear all the mob with ur 2nd fleet so i believe u use ur boss fleet to do some battle too which they shouldnt do any battle except battling the boss to keep their hp maxed

[whole crypt]

if you really have to choose between Heinrich and Roon Muse then Heinrich

[old lark]

Could anyone tell me what this is?

[wraith oyster]

its not expensive but whats the point building port i mean

[whole crypt]

have you finished her rookie missions

[wraith oyster]

yeah they're all done

[whole crypt]

for buying secrets under memories

[old lark]

So lore stuff?

[topaz smelt]

asmr stuff

[old lark]

Oh, I see. Thank you for the answer!

[whole crypt]

if you've already invested in Heinrich go with Heinrich
if you haven't invested in Heinrich Portland is fine