gameplay-help

[icy mountain]

my AA carry is in my boss fleet

[atomic abyss]

frankly i don't think the gold AA guns will help much even

[jaunty vault]

they do

[atomic abyss]

i mean
considering that whole frontline has 0 AA boats

[jaunty vault]

that fleet wont need an AA carry if properly geared

[hard mesa]

switch kaza with sirius at least

[jaunty vault]

nah

[potent slate]

what does exaushted mean

[zinc turret]

outof morale

[jaunty vault]

google it

[atomic abyss]

you have been grinding too much

[zinc turret]

put em to dorm i guess

[atomic abyss]

rest your ships or they suffer exp penalties

[potent slate]

how do I rest the,m

[south sequoia]

Just by not using them

[atomic abyss]

put them in dorm
stop using them

[zinc turret]

touch grass

[hard mesa]

[potent slate]

but it 5 am me go sleep now

[zinc turret]

The summary is ur ship will regen their morale like this
Outside dorm: +2 morale/6 mins, capped at 119
Dorm 1st floor: +4 morale/6 mins, capped at 150
Dorm 2nd: +5 morale/6 mins, capped at 150 also
(If oathed +1 morale on top/6 mins)

[icy mountain]

.

Thoughts?

[potent slate]

day 3 account lvl 43 Im happy with that p[rogress

[icy mountain]

i changed some AA guns

[atomic abyss]

roon in main tank please....

[inland shoal]

Roon is the tank there

[icy mountain]

roon is the tank in the boss fleet

[atomic abyss]

give port kai with 135% AA guns the gold AA gun
and not the 80% efficiency kazagumo

[inland shoal]

I think Port probably has the best AA there? So she should get the best gun

[atomic abyss]

alsace is missing a BB gun

[icy mountain]

situational, i have both AP and HE guns

[atomic abyss]

then remove the SG from helena

[icy mountain]

ok

[inland shoal]

Give her a rudder instead if you have it

[icy mountain]

is double toolbox okay?

[rustic idol]

Hey guys would really appreciate some help with gear for SP level, or to know if its even possible for me to do with my current fleet and gear :(
im posting a thread now

[icy mountain]

i have no 3rd washing machine sadly

[atomic abyss]

blue steering gear then

[inland shoal]

Hmm blue rudder/camo?

[icy mountain]

i have blue stuffs

[rustic idol]

SP level

[cloud fractal]

Already bought the UR weapon from the shop. Is the gold torpedo launcher worth it, or should I start buying gold tech packs?

[atomic abyss]

gold tech packs only worth it for new players

the gold torp can replace the usual 533 quints tho i suppose

[cloud fractal]

I have very little in terms of gear in general. I haven’t really started OPSi and I’m just now starting to bring a second fleet online.

[inland shoal]

Well the gold torpedo launcher is certainly more worth it than tech packs
It doesn't rly seem to be good atm, but just buy it anyway cuz it's limited

[atomic abyss]

it's about as good as the 533 quints on auto so

[cloud fractal]

I guess it doesn’t matter. I’ve got plenty of time to farm both.

[small fern]

Should i get another bearn meta or the mogador gun

[sweet delta]

Gun should've been the very first thing you bought

[small fern]

It is the first thing i got was mog herself

The vouchers

Also the bearn was a b3 reward i got lucky

[mint flint]

it is (or was at least) possible to get mog without buying any vouchers from the event shop

[bright tusk]

Is staag good for harbin?

[sharp socket]

do torps do less damage to dd/cl than to ca/cb/other vanguard

[south sequoia]

It's good but it's less ideal to slap it on her compared to backliners

[south sequoia]

Torps do less damage to light armor but yes but that's mostly due to their modifiers
there is a torpedo that is specialized against light armor and a ship with a gimmick that's able to make her torpedos have their own unique modifiers (kawakaze)

[steady beacon]

Torps, like every other ordnance type, have armour modifiers
It just so happens that most DD/CLs are light armoured, which most torpedoes have the lowest modifiers against

[small fern]

I got her already so its too late

[sharp socket]

wtf is this gun

[inner delta]

bad gun

[cobalt rapids]

smth u shouldnt craft

[sharp socket]

i was looking at what my hood gun could upgrade to

[cobalt rapids]

its a downgrade

it changes ammo into sanshiki which is terrible

[open agate]

Whats this and who should I get?

[inner delta]

it's a wishing well, you can pick 2 character you want a rate up for 1 pool light/heavy/special

[undone plover]

U should ignore it if your cube count is low (<400)

There is info in the pins i believe about who u should pick

[small fern]

This early game nelson build good

I just unlocked operation siren too

[undone plover]

Looks fine

[small fern]

could it be better

[undone plover]

Later yeah. For now I dont think so

[bright tusk]

Assume the stage doesn't have enemy aircrafts and i have a lot of staag, is it better to give her AA dps or staag (if i remember correctly +hit stats also increases crit rate) or give her AA that has FP stats?

[undone plover]

@small fern how much core data do you have?

Nelson gets a big boost from her retrofit. Make sure you do it after uni>portland and your starter dd

[small fern]

Should i give port this

[south sequoia]

Yep

[small fern]

Starter dd i dont use in this fleet i use it on my second fleet

[undone plover]

Better on your dd as main gun

[small fern]

So , kiev sure

[undone plover]

I just meant for retrofit priority nelson comes after those 3

[craggy panther]

I got a question about unlocking PR ships, Will my exp towards for example Iron blood , (2 million sortie exp) be counted even if Im using a level 125 ship? Or a ship that is locked at 120?

[steady beacon]

Yes in both cases

[small fern]

Im pretty close to nelson after my 3 hard mode wins

[undone plover]

Looks fine although give her defensive aux. toolkit + evasion gear (camouflage/steering gear)

[solemn ivy]

What banner should I summon on, I am new and don’t have a lot of good ships rn. I have about 40 cubes

[small fern]

event duh

[undone plover]

Event banner. Hopefully u luck the UR although u probably wont have enough for pity
After event 1 per day on light pool until next event

[solemn ivy]

Oh no I have Alsace and Shia no

[small fern]

It's always us new people 💀

[undone plover]

Then save and do 1 light pool only

[solemn ivy]

Ok

[undone plover]

Actually pick kazagumo + aurora from Wishing well and do 1 pull there instead

Also who is Shia

[solemn ivy]

I chose shinano and Perseus there

Shinano

[small fern]

With the Ur

HOW DID BRO GET SHINANO

[undone plover]

Imo just do light pool then and save coobs

[small fern]

I have horrible luck on the normal banners

[solemn ivy]

Ok

[small fern]

I do heavy idk why

I'm a certified gambler

[undone plover]

Not recommended since heavy pool will be shared with some event pools in future and costs 2 cubes.

U will get almost all of the perma ships in heavy/special with future events

[small fern]

I got NJ from the wishing pool should I have picked Shinano

[mint flint]

one light pull per day is recommended because its basically free due to the daily mission reward

[fresh tangle]

Any of these crafts worth it? Ignore the formations I’m leveling stuff 😂

[small fern]

I see coob I gamble 💀

[mint flint]

both are good

[tame jungle]

Both good, barracuda probably best easily accessible TB

[undone plover]

Shinano is probably more useful than NJ but that doesnt mean NJ is bad. U shouldnt have pulled for them anyway tbh

[small fern]

The wish

[tame jungle]

Italian AA gun is a good accelerator for low AA ships

[small fern]

I already got Alsace so

[fresh tangle]

Like?

I was thinking barracuda on hood or Nelson

[undone plover]

Barracuda is a plane and goes on CV not BB

[tame jungle]

That would be quite the achievement since they can’t equip planes

[fresh tangle]

Oh derp 😂

[small fern]

I fixed my build

[fresh tangle]

Saratoga or Enty?

[tame jungle]

You might want them on both

[small fern]

This good?

Im fairly new as i said so keep that in mind

[tame jungle]

But i’d say prioritize Enty if you’re running 1 fleet

[small fern]

I just unlocked opsi

[undone plover]

F4U corsair better than hellcat if u have em but this is fine

[mint flint]

torp bulge on a cv?

[tame jungle]

Also i’m assuming you’re nowhere close to gear lab ravenclaw so barracudas will serve you fine until you can start getting wyverns

[undone plover]

Sara dive bombers should ideally also be helldivers

[fresh tangle]

I’ve started dipping into opsi but nothing crazy

[open agate]

what do you mean rate up?

[tame jungle]

Helldivers are surprisingly better than a lot of gold dive bombers

[small fern]

I think I have one actually

[fresh tangle]

I’ve got them on Enty

[undone plover]

Helldiver is best dive bomber until u get tenrai much later

[open agate]

rate up like increase chance?

[inner delta]

yes

[mint flint]

yes

[open agate]

alrighty thanks

[undone plover]

Open more T3 eagle union techboxes if u have them. U might get more

[solemn ivy]

Guys why can’t I 100% complete hard stages? When I enter the stage second time it only spawns the flagship fleet. What do I do?

[mint flint]

turn off clearing mode

[plain saffron]

Higher than other of same rarity

[fresh tangle]

Should I keep the one I have on Enty and pull for a second

[solemn ivy]

Ok

[mint flint]

it deletes all mobs to make daily hard clears faster

[small fern]

I have alot of boxes

[undone plover]

Open them all but always combine them up to the purple boxes

[main latch]

What are other ways to get T3 Blueprints i need 3 more for FdG

[late pike]

which augment for FDG???

[dapper axle]

Medal and event shops

[undone plover]

Hard mode and guild shop is the main ones
Medal shop T3 prints are not recommended since they are very expensive

[mint flint]

neither is neccessarily better for all scenarios

[late pike]

soo any?

[main latch]

ah okay

[dapper axle]

Oh, you meant this blueprints, then yeah, guild or hard mode

[small fern]

I already have the 4 star helldiver

And a Corsair on my long island which I can switch

[vague comet]

hey guys, anybody know whats the red thing on the bottom right? it's popping up intermittently

[undone plover]

U want to use the purple helldiver since it is the best one. Not sure what u mean by four star

[small fern]

Purple

[fresh tangle]

What should my second aux be on sara?

[small fern]

I play genshin so purple is 4 star in my muscle memory

[mint flint]

catapult or oil tank

[undone plover]

Maybe cheshire’s AoA? I cant be sure tho

[mint flint]

you only really use other auxes on cvs when adjusting timing

[dapper axle]

Unless you using something like Ark Royal where timing is very important 2 catapults should be best loadout

[inland shoal]

Gotta be sth related to some skill. Maybe would be able to tell with a video

[tender nova]

Would you please help me, who are the good ships?

[mint flint]

better to build on event pool than wishing well

[sharp token]

should you hit the enemy first with aircraft to trigger AvP slow?

[undone plover]

AoA is a skill. Plus cat paws and cheshire is a cat

[tender nova]

But Perseus is so cuuuuute and I saw her in EX tier too

[mint flint]

shes worse than unicorn in most situations and when she is better it barely matters

also more expensive if you're new

[fresh tangle]

Ah alright cool I’ll stick my gold catapult on her

[tender nova]

Im not that new

[mint flint]

just a heads up warspite is pretty bad as well

[silk helm]

[fresh tangle]

I was excited by warspite but Nelson is better and cheaper 😂

[inland shoal]

Yes, but I don't recall it causing red flashes like that

[vague comet]

I will try to record it when it happens again

[plain saffron]

Wow that roon skin actually looks nice in new UI

[plain saffron]

That thing at bottom right doesn't look anything like cat paw at all

[dapper axle]

If you have ships that give speed debuff to enemy, torpedo bombers like Ryuusei/ Ju-87D-5 will do more damage as well.

[sharp socket]

should i make gold magtorps

[undone plover]

u could luck them in KMS tech boxes but I made most of mine in gear lab since I couldnt get them from the boxes
as long as u dont need the mats for sth else should be fine

[shell pilot]

no, you'll get them on crates

[worldly pewter]

skill isssues

i think the gunpowder is kinda of a scarce mat alongside the electronics

[sharp socket]

oh i can just craft the helldivers i need

opsi is so cool

[undone plover]

always open all your boxes before u start crafting stuff

[worldly pewter]

wait a sec didn't u say that u had 3 wyverns

[fiery raptor]

hello, i got a couple of questions

aside from the mk7, any of the new gear lab gear worth considering? the rn gold single and the 80mm sak aa gun in particular?

did they fix mogador yet or is she still a broken girl?

[plain saffron]

Idk idk yes

[steady beacon]

Mogador is fixed
The new gold AA is bad
The DD gun is an expensive upgrade of the Single 120mm DD gun for barrage spammers/ships that want fast DD gun

[undone plover]

what was EX boss armor?

[steady beacon]

Heavy

[inland shoal]

Or a very tiny upgrade over 76 right?
(I haven't looked into the stats myself tbh)

[fiery raptor]

does slowing down to .7 from .5 worth it you think for ships with trash FP like shima and kazagumo

for the gear stat upgrade

[steady beacon]

In comparison between the 76 and the 113, I probably wouldn't worry about the stats (unless it's on Scylla, perhaps)
The range difference may potentially matter
Idt there's been a definitive conclusion reached between those two in general just yet (just that the 113 is vastly more expensive)

PvP we're pretty confident about the 113, but Idt anyone here cares about that

[fiery raptor]

fair enough, i'll get to 3 mk7s first before i make a 113 since they all want electronics. thank you.

[fresh tangle]

Don’t think I do. I need to spend some time cleaning out my depot etc

Anyone got the list I’ve seen floating around of things you can disassemble? I’ve got loads of blue and purple stuff

[dapper axle]

The only blue weapon you need
azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_76mm_(3"/50_caliber_gun)#Type_3-0

[steady beacon]

Eh
Keep the He-50b as well

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message you can read this but
tldr its slightly better but expensive
76mm faster firerate doesnt necesarily translate like that in practice

[fresh tangle]

What about safe purples to disassemble

[cobalt rapids]

check safe to scrap in /equip

[dapper axle]

To craft D-4? Not really worth it IMO

[cobalt rapids]

whats not really worth ?

[dapper axle]

Ju-87D-4

[cobalt rapids]

junkers ryuuseis and saiuns are all sidegrades to each other and are top conv

[dapper axle]

The point is, unless you specifically need IB palne in torp bomber slot, B7A/ saiun is way easier to get

[boreal wagon]

they are also insanely useful for timing adjustments, which with CVs happens alot

[atomic abyss]

^

[cobalt rapids]

its not about ib plane its about timing

and b7a and saiun arent way easier to get

[boreal wagon]

arent they arguably harder to get lol

[atomic abyss]

Research rng

Saiuns can at least be bought with protocore I guess

[cobalt rapids]

junkers are basicly ure best option to craft in gearlab since they are gearlab limited and ryuu bps can drop from rng research and saiun is research limited to 4 or proto but not recommended to spend on since focus 4 is recommended regardless

• tenzan kai fits the same timing as ryuu and same dmg at +10 so another reason not to craft it in gearlab over ju

[dapper axle]

Well, so far I personally had more luck with research rng then with IB boxes

[dapper axle]

I would say unless you are not worring on spendings pancake is better to craft

[cobalt rapids]

no, 2x1000lb are minmal upgrade over 2x500 lb fighters

first gearlab prios for planes are wyverns and conv tb

[inland shoal]

Hmm did my msg about the AA get gobbled up? I think the new AA is just an alternative to 134 on ships with very high FP right?

[cobalt rapids]

yea unzen/azuma tldr since only they fit the bill

[dapper axle]

wyverns are priority for sure, but they locked behind UR BPs, and when you will have enough of this other recources aren't a big issue

[cobalt rapids]

electronics are an issue for quite a while for new players

[undone plover]

considering u need ~70 electronics for wyverns u are likely to get the UR designs easier

[inland shoal]

Ah right I somehow forgot about the ijn vg restriction

[dapper axle]

Yeah, electronics are a problem

[steady beacon]

Ngl, if it was JUST an IJN restriction (as opposed to IJN vanguard), it'd be interesting as an FP stat stick for Musashi (where planes don't exist, at least)...

[dapper axle]

57* if you willing to buy firebrand from core shop

[undone plover]

which is only an option for older players

[dapper axle]

But I guess there are white and black shells for BBs as proirity

[undone plover]

do people actually use black shells
i havent used them since I bought them

[cobalt rapids]

rarely

[steady beacon]

Old METAs

[cobalt rapids]

when im staggering 2 bbs or low eva bosses like old metas

[frank pulsar]

i barely use mine cuz i have low bb tech

[wind hazel]

i use them when im raising shitter BB

[jaunty vault]

i always use black shells

[undone plover]

does Kear use gaming table in CV comp?

[dapper axle]

I was considering to buy one just to have it, but always brought other stuff in the end

[cobalt rapids]

depends

[steady beacon]

It always depends

[cobalt rapids]

when im running 20s helena she gets 2x shells, else she runs table and sometimes even loader

[undone plover]

i see.... what about fighter plane? would giving her HVAR/flapjack make her desync and fire early?

[cobalt rapids]

yeap

[steady beacon]

That is usually intended though

[dapper axle]

Use manual

[undone plover]

in a CV fleet dont u want it all synced or is kear just impossible

[plain saffron]

Smh where github access

[cobalt rapids]

u can give her bf109 or seahornet or focket but ur trading her self buff so u better got something to compensate

[steady beacon]

I know some manual players purposely hold her airstrike back to sync but uh... I just launch when loaded tbh lol

(1) Ensures she burns the target, so Precision Strike goes off instead of Oceanic Blaze
(2) The burn gives her the 8% shelling debuff

Oh and the 10% burning debuff too

[cobalt rapids]

tldr stick to uss planes

[undone plover]

so basically in a CV comp u dont really sync kearsarge usually
she just does her own thing correct?

[cobalt rapids]

u can sync her gun

[inner delta]

[steady beacon]

You don't sync her planes
Sync her gun

[hard mesa]

theres beacon if plane cd isnt enough

[undone plover]

well I have to stick to bf109 for now since I intend to use her in anti light fleet. that is fine right?

[whole crypt]

sup moggies

[steady beacon]

Ngl, that genuinely makes me want to cry
But ye, in lieu of HVARcats...

[undone plover]

yorkii soon

[whole crypt]

doesn't Kearsarge want a uss plane

[undone plover]

so u never give her catapults right?

[inner delta]

you dont give her cata

[whole crypt]

she just wants BB aux

[undone plover]

also how is she not the best "BB" she has MGM 3 + 4 planes
is it her barrage or lack of barrage or what??

[hard mesa]

I think pirate should be fine too, the important is to her fire shelling barrange instead of aoe one by burn from plane

[plain saffron]

See the stats and efficiency

[whole crypt]

rld, fp, eff

[steady beacon]

A question that could take up an entire essay to answer tbh

[plain saffron]

Do it

[inner delta]

100

[undone plover]

also general question is 15% airstrike damage and 15% AVI boost essentially the same thing?

[steady beacon]

Nope

As a general rule, x% dmg boost always beats x% boost of corresponding stat

[undone plover]

[whole crypt]

URs can 125 without LBs but yot'll still need to cog and it's shit

[inner delta]

seems like he is happy enough with lv 100

[whole crypt]

it's NPCs that you can't cog

[inland shoal]

Well technically if you already have 3 buffs that boost avi dmg by 15% an avi boost of 15% is probably gonna be better than an avi dmg boost of 15%

[steady beacon]

Ye I know, that's why I said general
I was going through my head all the bizarre possibilities and remembered that there are some weird cases where you can make a stat boost matter more

[white agate]

what do you usually do with ships who hit the 125 level cap?
i mean once they can't store up exp anymore should i consider it a waste to use them?

[inland shoal]

Use them where I need them

[steady beacon]

(Although mine was super extreme, it was like Lucky E + The Eagle Soars Free = 2.1x DMG dealt, then
2.25/2.1 = 1.07, and I was pretty sure 15% AVI boost for Enty [assuming no other percentage stat buffs] at that point works out to more than a 1.07 multiplier)

[inland shoal]

Avi stat buffs should be quite close to avi dmg buffs anyway cuz avi is such a high stat

[hushed aurora]

I actually got Alsace! Who should I switch around? I though about bearn but she does good dmg

[steady beacon]

An asymptotic argument, eh?

[inland shoal]

Richy ig

[hushed aurora]

and put alsace in the middle?

[inland shoal]

Sure

But how many LBs does your Alsace have?

I mean even your Richy needs another one

[steady beacon]

Right now, def switch out Richy because she's 1 star short and can gain no more experience

Neither can Helena for that matter

[hushed aurora]

I already used 2 UR bullis

on alsace

I started playing Azure lane again for this woman so I cant back out now

Also what skill should I lvl first on her?

[shell pilot]

her 1st skill for me

[inland shoal]

Start with s1 I'd say

[shell pilot]

the buffs it gives are enormous

[hushed aurora]

👍 ty

[keen sable]

Second fleet

Although getting rid of a capped richy is a good thing tm

[hushed aurora]

Also can I only have 1 Secretary? Seems like I cant take out someone

[steady beacon]

You can have up to 5

But uh... you have to clear certain campaign stages to unlock the slots
(I can't remember which ones off the top of my head, but pre sure last one is unlocked by clearing 12-4)

[plain saffron]

technically 6 if you count TB

[keen sable]

Getting rid of a capped helena also a good thing tm although simply limit breaking her already an even better thing tm

[hushed aurora]

I though about taking brennus because I got her skin in the random lootbox. Is that a good choice?

or mogador but I dont have and UR bullies so I think thats actually bad

I could max lb brennus

[craggy lance]

got a bit of a weird one for you guys
what is the tankiest fleet comp theoretically possible in AL

i'm curious

[plain saffron]

i summon mebot

[steady beacon]

Will depend on context
Bc it will likely on enemy accuracy/luck stats
But ye, @slow fox , you're up: #gameplay-help message

[keen sable]

Something something Anchorage mid

Laffii mid? I guess that's really tanky also. Doesn't do anything for the escorts though

[hushed aurora]

Also is it worth it to put all the good weapon on Alsace or should I keep them on laffey?

[south sequoia]

For on field testing, how well is mogadors damage? Does the napkin math actually translate to on field tests?

[keen sable]

The don't share a single gear

[south sequoia]

They are different unit types

[hushed aurora]

Just noticed it now... yeah sry i am new

[craggy lance]

i assume i chuck EUDC on someone in there as well

[keen sable]

You should strip richy though?

[plain saffron]

[keen sable]

Brennus is good for d2

[finite crag]

would you ever run georgia gun with an hsfcr

[keen sable]

I think I did on my champy Romney comp

[steady beacon]

As always, context dependent but I do vs Arbiter

[steady beacon]

Your what now?

[finite crag]

i see

[hushed aurora]

I meant this rainbow weapon

[forest palm]

don't that's just a waste

[keen sable]

Champy Romney random cv(placy) timings work at least

[hollow gust]

That alcase gear tho

[hushed aurora]

I am new.

And is there a guide for spending gems? Is it worth it to get more tactical slots or any other slots that worth getting for 1k gems?

[hard mesa]

Dock space

[hollow gust]

Look for those two purple auxes, shell you can get from sakura boxes and you should be able to craft the radar

[keen sable]

Yes, no, 2nd floor if current dorm slot is 3 or less

[hushed aurora]

Ok thanks so much!

[undone plover]

Anyone know how many cubes there are in NJ war archive and cavalla?
Also are those the only 2 or is there more?

[icy mountain]

is there any specific use for these? or are they just for exchange tickets?

[forest palm]

it's just for voucher

[icy mountain]

thanks 👍

[cunning bison]

what are the best auxillaries for bbs

[void turret]

what exactly is rng for wishing well

I have gotten more URs than wishing well ships

[atomic abyss]

The black and white shells from core shop

[cunning bison]

okay and i presume rn shell for rn? but do i change those for black or white?

[forest palm]

wouldn't even call that the best it's situationally applicable at best

[cunning bison]

and what about the fire control tables

[steady beacon]

There should be two more from Dreamwaker's if I'm remembering correctly

[forest palm]

Black Shell always gets dumped

[hollow gust]

Only when you need special timings

[cunning bison]

kk

[brisk dragon]

what would happen if i have MLB META ship but the stage drops an other copy?

[hollow gust]

You will always default to double shells

[brisk dragon]

does it auto covert to something else ?

[hollow gust]

[cunning bison]

now what is the best aa gun for vanguard ships and main fleet ships respectively?

[obtuse smelt]

It auto converts to the meta currency

[brisk dragon]

how much?

[hollow gust]

Depends

[atomic abyss]

Depends on how good their AA is really

But for backliners, it's usually the STAAG Bofors

[cunning bison]

wdym?

[atomic abyss]

Good AA ships want better AA guns

Bad AA ships want stuff that improves rof

[brisk dragon]

iirc general rule is sext thing " for ur best AA" . STAAG for BBs and almost everyone else sext if more copies or quad

[hollow gust]

Frontline aa depends on the ships around them , backline aa depends on boss evasion

[cunning bison]

lets say guam, laffey ii, brest

[hollow gust]

What content

[cunning bison]

uh campaign, events, general opsi

no meta showdown

[atomic abyss]

Guam and Laffey II are AA carries
Brest isn't
So the 2 prioritise the rainbow twin 57 AA guns
Otherwise the Sextuple Bofors
Lacking both the twin 113

[hollow gust]

Gotta be more specific then that, if it's w15 then it's sextuple , twin57 , accelerator in that order ,

If it's opsi then all three will run twin 134

[cunning bison]

can u put full name, im just confused rn what ya all mean srry

[atomic abyss]

Wait shit

[craggy lance]

embed fail

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/AA_Guns.jpeg

[craggy lance]

gotta update my sandy meme build then

[plain saffron]

nice virus

[cunning bison]

ty both of u

[tame orchid]

Which war archives gives cubes?

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure none do

Cubes come from the missions , war archives doesn't have missions

[whole crypt]

I think Dreamwaker does, by clearing the "story" maps

[plain saffron]

some have 1 time story stage

and rewards for that from clearing the stage directly not missions

[whole crypt]

so far should be only Dreamwaker

[undone plover]

Cavalla also I believe

So nano + cavalla

[whole crypt]

Cavalla was NJ?

[undone plover]

Was it? Lemme check

[whole crypt]

oh simulacrum

[atomic abyss]

It's not

[forest palm]

Cavalla is much older

[hollow gust]

It was archerfish

[whole crypt]

yeh simulacrum has story map but no cube

actually does it I don't remember, that event was what 5 years ago?

[undone plover]

I think it does. This is my WA

[whole crypt]

I guess new players can cope like 4 cubes from them

[atomic abyss]

You're better off coping with buying cubes with gem rewards at that point....

[whole crypt]

well free cubes are free

[plain saffron]

what

[forest palm]

my motivation to do war archive still dryer than a desert

[plain saffron]

in this situation it's just a bonus while trying to get cavalla

i personally wouldn't bother, but it's still better than buying cubes with free gems

[atomic abyss]

The point was to emphasise the absurdity of the situation

[whole crypt]

my motivation to do WA is drying than antartica

I mean it's free cubes you could claim with relatively minor effort

I don't see how that's absurd

[undone plover]

Antarctica is a desert

[tame orchid]

Im scuffed on pity

[craggy lance]

what's the nimi command that gives me the infographic that tells me how to beat arbiters in opsi?

[tame orchid]

Need 56 more, 38 from being alive, need to scrounge up 18more somehow

[cloud fractal]

Are cubes easy to farm?

Only asking because I traditionally spend a fair bit of money, but if they’re easy to farm… I can just put more into skins.

[atomic abyss]

You don't exactly farm them per se

Cubes are a matter of resource management

[undone plover]

Well u get them from missions but the income is more than enough if u know when to stop pulling and wait for reruns. where is cheeky

[atomic abyss]

You get a net of 3 from dailies
And a random number from commissions

[undone plover]

168 per month + 20 every 2 months + rng from shops and comms

[atomic rock]

Should I upgrade Uni second skill?

[cobalt rapids]

upgrade all her skills

the only exceptions are port nachi and myokou,

[fresh tangle]

I think I need to look at getting some CL/CAs levelled up. I’m stuck still doing W6 hard modes due to no hull restrictions and I can’t help but think I should be higher up considering I’m on W10. How does hard mode progression generally work?

[undone plover]

Use Helena

[cobalt rapids]

u can jump around worlds

[undone plover]

U need 3 star all stages in a chapter to unlock hard mode for that chapter

[fresh tangle]

Yeah like I have access to chapter 9 now

[craggy lance]

is there not an infographic?

[cobalt rapids]

you dont have to complete each world in order, just go to highest u can do

[sinful escarp]

just do the highest level hard mode you can, on the node with the retrofit things you want

[atomic abyss]

What infographic are you looking for exactly

[craggy lance]

arbiter fleet comp

[atomic abyss]

The only chart there is is an armour type chart

[slender heart]

Nimi command? Like scan?

[cobalt rapids]

theres no arbiter fleet comp infographic

[atomic abyss]

There is none because arbiter fleets depend on what you have

[craggy lance]

damn
i assumed you did (because assuming that was funny to me)

[cobalt rapids]

[craggy lance]

i'll just go make a thread

[whole crypt]

there's with the OS boss stats but not one that directly tells you how to beat them

[fresh tangle]

Yeah that’s not what I’m asking like world 6 is comically easy. I’ve shuffled some stuff around and like w7 is 3CL/3/DD but w8 is ca/cl/2DDs then the main fleet stuff

I’m swimming in BB/BCs

[atomic abyss]

Those are CLs tho

[fresh tangle]

And only Helena is good I what I’m saying. Maybe I should pursue some others so I’ve got options

[atomic abyss]

I mean Montpelier and Juneau are good too lol

Juneau is the budget AA carry for w13

[fresh tangle]

So is Mont worth investing in then?

[atomic abyss]

Mont is only good with augment so

I would wait till you get better stuff

[peak meteor]

Mont is definitely better than pre-retro Helena as far as doing CL stuff goes (obviously radar scan is a very good skill though)
but yeah, augment is definitely needed

[whole crypt]

Monty with aug is good but not AA carry good, can use for mob tank or something with good carriers I guess

[fresh tangle]

So wait until I have access to her augment

[whole crypt]

or just don't use her at all

[fresh tangle]

2 more t3 prints and Helena is retro done

[peak meteor]

I mean considering his current pool of CLs, I'd say she's worth investing in for the future. Monty's not top top tier, but she'll do most content even without the aug.

[whole crypt]

but why use CLs

[fresh tangle]

Hard mode

[whole crypt]

which chapter

[fresh tangle]

7

[slender heart]

Why don't just finish cleveland, w7 hard is easy

[whole crypt]

or just use Helena

there are DD slots you can fill with other shit

[viscid swift]

Well for a start you do know you don't need to meet all the hull type requirements yes?

Just one main fleet and one vanguard hull type requirement is needed to be met

[whole crypt]

just as a reminder there's a TRP req so sending in 2 gun CLs isn't so hot unless you have the DDs ready too

[fresh tangle]

You can’t put other stuff in there though

[whole crypt]

you can fill the DD slots instead with DDs

[undone plover]

wait what? does that mean we can fill a dd slot with non-dd as long as u fill a CA slot for example?
or do u mean dont run full fleets?

[whole crypt]

you can't do ch7 with only 2 gun CLs anyway

[viscid swift]

You can just leave those slots empty is what I'm saying

[whole crypt]

you can go like this

[fresh tangle]

W8

[undone plover]

yeah i just wanted to double check I wasnt being an idiot thx

[whole crypt]

just because the slot is tagged doesn't mean it needs to be filled, as long as at least one tagged slot is filled for each vanguard and main fleet

more importantly you want to meet the stat reqs, and preferably efficiently, and fulfill recon/ACV while you're at it

oh wow this shit is ancient

[forest palm]

ok boomer

[whole crypt]

this for example unless you have trouble beating you can probably go without Portland and Helena, though nowadays if you've cleared there's oilcap

[peak meteor]

you can't call yourself a boomer unless you have Neptunia or Kizuna collab ships

[fresh tangle]

Gonna try w8 as it is better for what I’ve got and still should be fine I think.

[sharp token]

does AvP debuff needs her to hit the enemy first to trigger the slow?

[whole crypt]

if you've already cleared you can just jam any ships in since there's oilcap

can fill up the remaining slots for leveling or some shit

[fresh tangle]

Higher world just means more cores right? Not higher % of t2/3 retro prints?

[peak meteor]

Do you have any other AA carries at this point? Idk because all you've shown is the CLs.

[forest palm]

we don't know whether high world affects drop rate, or not, just more core

[tame orchid]

So only cavalla and nano event gives cubes right

[fresh tangle]

Me?

[whole crypt]

only on clearing the special story maps

[sharp token]

does AvP and ArkRoyal slow works the same, will activate if they launched the aircraft?

[tame orchid]

Ah, does NJ event give cubes?

[peak meteor]

Ya

[undone plover]

no i think I mixed up that one with nano. I dont think she does

[fresh tangle]

What’s AA

[whole crypt]

anti-air

[meager gyro]

which for avp xp grind?

[whole crypt]

any besides tirpitz

[meager gyro]

why that?

[peak meteor]

It's a stat you need a lot of for W12-13. Or AA gun+1 off an LB

[whole crypt]

because capped

[hollow gust]

Cause shes max exp already

[hushed cliff]

Is Moggy’s best gun her own rainbow one

[whole crypt]

yes

[meager gyro]

thats explains the slow progress

[peak meteor]

I mean, max XP will still contribute to progress

[hushed cliff]

I’m not sure if I wanna give it to Mog or Z46

[whole crypt]

it will but why not just level other ships

[whole crypt]

that's probably just you farming where XP is shit

[meager gyro]

so it still gives me xp for avp?

[whole crypt]

yes

[fresh tangle]

AA options

[meager gyro]

doing d3 bc people told me to play nothing else

[zinc turret]

d3 is as good as w10 for exp

[tranquil hemlock]

do limited skins rerun?

[warm cliff]

Is Chapayev or Prinz Heinrich a good investment?(thinking of getting one of them from the special invitation). My current cruisers:

[violet nebula]

Any suggestions for pick?

[zinc turret]

pin

[meager gyro]

should i farm in 11-1?

[tranquil hemlock]

guys do limited skins rerun?

[undone plover]

12-4 better if u can get there but 11-1 is also fine

[viscid swift]

All except collab skins do in time yes

[meager gyro]

11-2 is already troubling

[zinc turret]

if u think u have enough event point sure i guess

[strong tartan]

yes, when the event itself reruns and on Black Friday, with the exception of collab skins as listed above

[meager gyro]

idk, is 66k enough?

[tranquil hemlock]

is there any sale in black friday?

like cmon its black friday

[undone plover]

last year there was like a 300 gem discount if u bought a number of skins

[warm cliff]

How does Prinz Heinrich compare to Friedrich Carl?

[slender heart]

If you're lacking tank, go heinrich. If you're lacking gun focused CL, go chapayev

[viscid swift]

Not really

[sharp token]

Carl > Heinrich

[warm cliff]

Ok thanks

[viscid swift]

You get some bonuses for buying X number of skins but there's no discount

[undone plover]

except last year one of the bonuses was a one time skin discount

[viscid swift]

You don't really need either

[whole crypt]

they had this discount for skins 6 years ago

[viscid swift]

Don't pick Chapayev though since she's farmable from the WAs

[tranquil hemlock]

how many bucks would it cost for all skins in this game

[warm cliff]

Oh ok… my current cruisers are good enough?

[tranquil hemlock]

if someone really caculate it fr

[lethal bolt]

wanna ask,is it worth using torpedo from the event shop? currently using the free +6 torpedo from beginner

[atomic abyss]

It's about the same as a good torp

[plain saffron]

Assuming no 2x gems bonus i guess?

[lethal bolt]

so should i use it?

[atomic abyss]

Yeah

Not as good as the mags admittedly

[lethal bolt]

the mags?

[slender heart]

Magnetics

[atomic abyss]

Magnetic torpedoes

[whole crypt]

probably over 10k

[lethal bolt]

ok but is the event torpedo still better than the purple +6 quintuple magnetic torp?

[atomic abyss]

Significantly

Quint mags sucks if they're not rainbow

[steady beacon]

Half the torpedoes in the game are better than the purple quint mag

[atomic abyss]

Gold quads are good

[slender heart]

Agree, on manual

[lethal bolt]

another question, is war archives worth touching as a beginner or no?

[nova halo]

yes

it gives you gears and free ships

[tired condor]

isnt the drop rate for the ships hella low

[fluid brook]

If you lack Iron Blood tech, you can do Chessboard to grind the IB tech for FdG, if you can alr do FdG then theres no reason aside from JdA

[nova halo]

yes

[fluid brook]

For Gold Ships yes

[tired condor]

huge oil sink

[atomic abyss]

This

[tranquil hemlock]

also guys whhy hard mode 3 star doesnt give gems?

[plain saffron]

it would need this much gems

[tired condor]

hard mode probably just gives t3 retrofit mat

[fluid brook]

Dev choose not to, it just give us some retro BPs and cog chips (one-time reward)

[tranquil hemlock]

dawg

[silver lintel]

I just did 60 runs of PP for the kicks lol

[fluid brook]

For what one would need such fortune?

[stark quiver]

skins ofc

[zinc turret]

to show how scarce gem is

[viscid swift]

Buying every skin in the game

[fluid brook]

Rings are counted?

[viscid swift]

Wait does that include oath skins

[meager gyro]

what are the best poverty AA guns?

[atomic abyss]

Purple Bofors

[plain saffron]

assuming no 2x bonus, it would cost buying highest packs 112.5703 times which is equivalent to $9004.496

[atomic abyss]

In USD I assume?

[plain saffron]

yes

[meager gyro]

dont have

[lethal bolt]

Btw is there anyone in my dock I should start building?

[plain saffron]

@tranquil hemlock here your answer

[meager gyro]

these worth it?

[fluid brook]

Alsace

[cobalt rapids]

are u at w9

are u still farming event

[atomic abyss]

Left is pretty decent poverty

[plain saffron]

source for gems amount from wiki
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Special:CargoQuery?title=Special%3ACargoQuery&tables=ship_skins%2C+&fields=SUM(ship_skins.Cost)&where=ship_skins.EventCurrency+is+null&join_on=&group_by=&having=&order_by[0]=&order_by_options[0]=ASC&limit=10000&offset=&format=list&delimiter=#
i'm assuming all gems are null in wiki(it should be)

[sharp socket]

one 80 usd pakeji with double bonus will buy you all the dockspace you ever need

[meager gyro]

could also craft these

[plain saffron]

[lethal bolt]

w9 is locked behind my current commander lvl and cant do event hard stages since locked behind torpedo requirement

[atomic abyss]

At most purple 113

[cobalt rapids]

u can do d1 ?

[fresh tangle]

Sword or bowgun on Nelson retro?

[lethal bolt]

I mean I'm locked behind hard stages at all if I do 1 fleet

[sharp socket]

if i put IB backline ships in dorm does it count to xp collection

for ship building in research

[drifting pecan]

nope

[cobalt rapids]

book some ijn destroyer like shiranui or kagerou

[fluid brook]

Personally i will go for Bowgun for more FP

[cobalt rapids]

just for statstick

[sharp socket]

so i have to go spend oil augh

[meager gyro]

is any of this sufficient as poverty?

[cobalt rapids]

or just put a gold oxytorp on laffey

[night pumice]

if your first fleet can last the entire stage you can throw destroyers into the second fleet with a random bb or carrier for stats

[drifting pecan]

yup, it always and has been the only way

[plain saffron]

or find 1 gold trp aux from IJN tech box

nice internet lag

[drifting pecan]

wait, i think there is second way, using some sort of chip

[fluid brook]

Do you have a Triple 406mm MK7?

[sharp socket]

ive been using the combat data xp to do it and now i cant on pr4

[meager gyro]

which one is that?

[meager gyro]

all in use already

(i have 2)

[fluid brook]

Purple Twin 381

[sharp socket]

u guys can tell what gear is what from the pictures

[meager gyro]

no

[fluid brook]

If you got some Purple EU gearboxes try to open it to get more gears, just dont grind map drops Gear BPs

[lethal bolt]

ok thx

[atomic abyss]

This

[atomic abyss]

No

Purple triple 406mm mk6
Or
Purple twin 410mm mounted

Otherwise take the blue twin 356mm

[meager gyro]

completely dry on everything

[fluid brook]

IJN or HMS?

nvm Ijn is the only blue

[atomic abyss]

That is basically a discount twin 410

[atomic abyss]

I suppose the twin 381 here is decent too
It's essentially a faster twin 410 with even less damage

[fluid brook]

the gold or purple?

[atomic abyss]

Gold

[meager gyro]

are there any pics to these?

[atomic abyss]

/wiki twin 356mm

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_356mm_(41st_Year_Type)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_356mm_(BL_14"_Mk_VII)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_356mm_(41st_Year_Type)_Kai

Jun 7, 2024, 2:35 PM

[zinc turret]

wut ? just use 2 fleet then ?

[steady beacon]

The first one

[meager gyro]

ok i could craft some of them

should i craft this?

[lethal bolt]

got it

[atomic abyss]

It's great for w14
But not yet

Your gear lab mats are limited as is

[meager gyro]

is baltmore u good?

[sharp socket]

is this a converging bomb dropper plane

[novel condor]

Nope it's rocket

[fluid brook]

Its a fighter with Rockets, which may work similar

[plain saffron]

no also it's converging torps and there' no torps on that plane

[novel condor]

Nah she's quite eh

[cloud fractal]

Dang! No CDC or combat exp from OPSi?

[sharp socket]

whats the difference between rocket and torp

[plain saffron]

anything with torpedo-iron blood/torpedo-sakura is converging

[fluid brook]

Rockets are for Fighters, and torps are for Torp Bombers

[sharp socket]

so it does the same thing as a torp bomber

[plain saffron]

rocket is faster, launch straight from the plane
torp launched on water then move converging towards target
also mods for both are different

both are high dmg single target yes

[atomic abyss]

Not all opsi enemies give exp so...

[jaunty vault]

huh? what makes you think that

[night pumice]

how often should I be looking into changing my fleet comps?

[plain saffron]

there is EXP but it's VERY low

[atomic abyss]

When you can't clear content

[sharp socket]

im just gonna make one and see what it does

[plain saffron]

like few months to complete CDC 1, i tried

[meager gyro]

hm guess im still cooked for now

[cloud fractal]

I just started OPSi. And I’m getting zero on my iron blood fleet that I’m trying to use for FdG CDC

[atomic abyss]

Opsiren exp is piss poor

[plain saffron]

0 percent doesn't mean 0 exp

[zinc turret]

some opsi enemy give 0 exp tho

[plain saffron]

because the value is floored

[cloud fractal]

No. It literally says +0. I do know how to read lol

[atomic abyss]

Even for the enemies that give exp
It's very very little

[keen sable]

Just put 2 random ships in the bottom. You don't need to use them. Although it will help if one is a destroyer you want to raise

[atomic abyss]

Not all opsi enemies give exp
Only some

[plain saffron]

each 1% is 10000 exp
if you get like 4k exp total it still shows 0%

[tired condor]

would i ever need aa 3rd fleet

[atomic abyss]

For operation siren
Yes, you'll need 3 fleets

[plain saffron]

enemy that "spawn infinitely"(like in hidden zones) or in zone that cost 0 AP doesn't gives any exp

they know people gonna abuse it

like we're abusing it for meta skill exp, too bad there's daily limit

[keen sable]

Pretty sure story gives 0 xp. Also costs 0...

[sharp socket]

do i use these for fdg

[keen sable]

Do you want 3000 protocore?

[zinc turret]

how did "coinable" work ? did i get free upgrade with coin everyday just like the order cat thing ?

[sharp socket]

3000 protocore in 6 months?

[keen sable]

Several months yes

[sharp socket]

sigh

[sharp socket]

what do i accumulate normal prints for anyway

[plain saffron]

doing research for newer season

[sharp socket]

if i can just coin all the pr ships

[plain saffron]

there's also equips

[atomic abyss]

You can only coin ships from series 1-3
And the gold ships in series 4

The rest good luck

[plain saffron]

because coining is for older season to help player catch up

so if you're fine getting a ship 3 years late then sure, why even do research when you can coin them 3 years later

[zinc turret]

oooo nice so i can get free upgrade per day

[sharp socket]

so my prints that im saving are for plymouth

[tired condor]

should i wait for brest to be coinable before researching her

[atomic abyss]

She won't be coinable for a VERY long time

[plain saffron]

if you willing to wait 3+ years then yes

[sharp socket]

man plymouth is UR

[atomic abyss]

Cos Agir and Haku are not coinable yet

[tired condor]

dam light work

[sharp socket]

what is good in pr5 and pr6 gold ships

[atomic abyss]

Harbin (5) and Shimanto (6)
That's all

[plain saffron]

latest are new season july,
new season -1 fs on EN anni,
new season -2 PR coining and new season - 3 DR on CNY,

so for example
current season is 6
fs only until season 5
coining only have until PR4 & DR3

[keen sable]

So to clarify you appear to be showing s2 generals. I guess you could use for fdg. Maybe they came from pr2 beginner?

[keen sable]

No because you should be focus 4 so why is plymouth being mentioned?

[sharp socket]

???

im talking about the prints that i have been accumulating from events

[undone plover]

save general series 4 for series 4
general series 5 DR for plymouth
and 6 for 6

[plain saffron]

gonna take a long time though

[sharp socket]

what do i keep these for

[atomic abyss]

Use it for Shimanto later I guess

[plain saffron]

you can use on ships if you want, no need to coins 1 and a half months per ship

or protocore and buy more gear
more stuff is good
if coining is slow, coining + usual print is fast

idk what i type but tldr: get ships to dev30 faster than just coining only

[zinc turret]

did limited ship at guild shop cant be aquired anywhere else beside guild shop anymore ?

imma take the z18 cuz i need 1 more iron blood vanguard to research roon

[tame jungle]

Some of them yeah

[undone plover]

i think some are still in build pool. at least according to wiki

[tame jungle]

a lot of them seem to be in the perma pool yeah

just from a first glance though the ships

[plain saffron]

limited are mostly monthly login ships iirc

[undone plover]

z18 isnt anywhere else but if u want sth cheaper a lot of iron blood vanguards are in merit shop as well

[plain saffron]

so they don't even have timer to be in gacha

[low juniper]

Is this good for Enty?

[calm ledge]

i can't fully limit break right now but would it be better to use bulin on mogador or alsace?

[plain saffron]

back in my day we have monthly login ships 👴

[tame jungle]

yea that's fine

[finite crag]

How do skins work, is there a set amount of time before they rerun again or is it random

[plain saffron]

usually rerun on event they come with(so 2 years+ from og run) and black friday

[low juniper]

Should I lvl the proto saiun more

[finite crag]

Its so over

[slender heart]

What are you up against?

[undone plover]

backline always priority since has higher impact

[tame jungle]

it's ok but it's mostly a timing plane

[plain saffron]

probably yes but depends

[frank pulsar]

get it to +10 yea, any gear you use should be +10
+11 to +13 is what you need to be careful about

[low juniper]

What's that

[plain saffron]

do you have other ship that can slow the enemy for them to hit

[tame jungle]

a plane that's used for timing your airstrikes to sync up with other buffs, for example helena

[plain saffron]

it's still a good converging torp plane compared to others

[tame jungle]

the best planes tend to have bad reload, and using a fast plane will allow you to get back in that window

[low juniper]

Is that what it's strictly for? I don't think I use timing like that

[frank pulsar]

not rly, its just a fast converging torp
when ppl say timing plane they usually refer to planes that are used strictly for timing only like suisei 12a

[undone plover]

occassionally they might rerun skins earlier. for example NJ and shinano swimsuit got rerun when they archived but that is probably rare

[plain saffron]

if you have no ryuusei then it's completely fine to use it

[tame jungle]

saiun is in the middle of damage and timer

[plain saffron]

like it's still top 3 or 4 converging torp

[frank pulsar]

its third best

[tame jungle]

torps are very good but it's only got two of them

[low juniper]

So it isn't a plane I should equip on just anyone or is it for a specific kind of content other than timing adjustment

I have a spare lying around

[plain saffron]

_ _

[finite crag]

Gotta wait half a year so i can give them money

[low juniper]

How did you do that without text

[tame jungle]

mostly used on bosses that stand still or when you got a slowing support like ark royal

[plain saffron]

_ _

[tame jungle]

and that goes for all converging torps

[low juniper]

Ah

[plain saffron]

also need more context here

and what stage, what fleet

if it's somehow a boss fleet and in stage where boss doesn't move then it's fine to use without slow support

[frank pulsar]

its fine for campaign bossing as well, just make sure you mix it with parallel torp planes

[low juniper]

What's a parallel torp plane

[undone plover]

EU or RN torpedo bomber . and spearfish is a hybrid sort of

[frank pulsar]

standard torp plane like barracuda, wyvern, etc

[low juniper]

The fleet she!s currently in is my boss fleeting

[strange sphinx]

best map to farm exp and Oil efficiency

[low juniper]

Ohhh

[frank pulsar]

world 12 (12-1 or 12-4) for mix of exp and coin, world 13 (13-1 or 13-4) for coin

[undone plover]

11-1 is best for xp but u want to get to 12-4 since it is overall better. ch 13 later when u dont have much backline to level

[strange sphinx]

well 12-4 it is

[frank pulsar]

11-1 not worth doing

[strange sphinx]

still 12-2 don't have oil

[plain saffron]

best pure exp per oil is 11-1, less exp per oil the higher the stage
best pure coins is 15-4?, less coins per oil the lower the stage
but 12-1 and above can drop cog chips so uaully people far 12-1/4 or 13-1/4

[tame jungle]

MLBing some DDs gives them an "improved spread" pattern, does anyone have info on how these look?

[plain saffron]

depends on torp count

it's reduced spread

[tame jungle]

so it's just a straight reduction of spread?

[frank pulsar]

w14+ not worth farming due to poorer time efficiency

[viscid swift]

Yes

[plain saffron]

yeah it reduce the spread angle between each torp

[tame jungle]

ok thanks

[plain saffron]

i still didn't see how new torp works on mlb dd

[tame jungle]

oh the triple/twin mount thing

[steady beacon]

You don't mean the bugged thing do you

[undone plover]

is CA FP tech worth more cuz unzen + hindy vs CL for Ply mainly? not sure which one to prioritize

[low juniper]

Has the Mogador issue been addressed yet

[tame jungle]

yea

[low juniper]

Any solution?

[tame jungle]

fixed

[low juniper]

So what are the details of the fix

[tame jungle]

it's in patch notes somewhere

[zinc turret]

she wont die easily now

[tame jungle]

tldr is that the damage she takes while lunging is now capped to a certain percentage

[strange sphinx]

well might MLB Mog cause I don't think alsace will not come home

[tame jungle]

keep pulling and wait

[steady beacon]

Really depends on which you use more tbqh
For me, I'd go CL
Although my real priority right now is DD

[strange sphinx]

140 pitu wry

[tame jungle]

keep pulling and wait

[zinc turret]

just 60 moar pity to get alsace

[tame jungle]

game's called resource management lane for a reason

[zinc turret]

[strange sphinx]

ask if I have cubes

[hard mesa]

[plain saffron]

smh no more brit torp pattern

[steady beacon]

That was fixed like two weeks ago lol

[plain saffron]

yeah but i keep asking and nobody answered 😔

asking if they fix and keep that spread or fix and diff spread

[undone plover]

I guess I can do both elites first then move on to the gold +2 then +1. that would be most efficient right?

[strange sphinx]

How we tier Mog?

[steady beacon]

Never saw you ask, unfortunately

[strange sphinx]

Boss fleet because of Axe?

[steady beacon]

I'm afraid I'm the last person to ask when it comes to efficiency
I'm the biggest impediment to efficiency in here, probably...

[tame jungle]

i keep hearing people compare her to shima but guns

[atomic abyss]

Yeah that's the best way to understand it

[strange sphinx]

is shima toprs then

[hushed aurora]

So I read some guide and all hint to buying more slots and 2nd floor in dorms. What is the best way to get decore points? IS the 500 pack good in the store for gems? I have 1k gems currently

[tame jungle]

do not buy dorm points

you will just get them over time

[undone plover]

just wait. u will get enough soon.
gems are for 3rd slot. 2nd floor and then dockspace after that

[hushed aurora]

ok so I get the 3rd slot for 300 gems?

[tame jungle]

you can do /gems in bot spam channel and just give that a read

[hushed aurora]

ty

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Shima like most Sakuras are torp oriented

[undone plover]

that command rly needs to be updated
it is too long and still recommends 4th slot and academy slot for some reason

[strange sphinx]

wait it is advisable to buy 2nd floor??

[tranquil hemlock]

does 3 star event stages give gems?

[steady beacon]

Nope

[tranquil hemlock]

damn thats painful as hell wth

[hushed aurora]

what is bad about 4 slots?

[atomic abyss]

Always has been

[tranquil hemlock]

• 1 skin 😭

[keen sable]

3 × 2 > 4

[undone plover]

u want 6 total dorm slots so that u can recover morale fast and farm easily
2nd floor copies first floor so if u have 3 in first floor u will have 6 total which enough for mobbing fleet and u have enough slots that u wont run into morale issues easily

[hushed aurora]

oh I see

[strange sphinx]

[atomic abyss]

You are simply not buying (many) skins as an f2p

[strange sphinx]

so Wasting my Gems in Dock slot

[atomic abyss]

No, dock slot isn't a waste of gems either

[undone plover]

4th slot is just too expensive for what it does.
it is only good for passive xp and passive xp doesnt matter that much (in general xp stops being an issue later on)

[silk helm]

yo is bearn meta worth investing in?

[strange sphinx]

so in second floor there's free 3 slots

[atomic abyss]

If you don't got better carriers... Sure she might be worth

3 slots that restore morale faster
But lack exp gain

[steady beacon]

Helpful that she does not cost gold bulins
Although, can you upgrade her stats

[craggy lance]

yes via funny meta gimmick

[silk helm]

i got uni and enterprise :c (and saratoga no retro)

[steady beacon]

Ye but not everyone has those in abundance

[little tree]

Is she worth max LB ?

[undone plover]

2nd floor mirrors your first
if u have 3 on first then it gives 3 yes. but they dont give xp only morale
but like i said xp stops being an issue later on

[steady beacon]

If you enjoy torp memes
If not, probably not

[atomic abyss]

Unless you're into the torp nuke fad, no

[little tree]

i dont even knwow what that is

[atomic abyss]

So no then

[steady beacon]

"Fad" is the wrong word, Ender
It's more like "cult"

[slender heart]

Is she better than og noshiro? Or just different?

[atomic abyss]

Different

[strange sphinx]

well Might make 12-4 safe first before I farm

[tame jungle]

i think she's more damage oriented

[atomic abyss]

She buffs torps better but is frailer

[heavy anvil]

If I use the high efficiency plan in war archive does it count as 2 clears towards the 60 clears for SSR

[frank pulsar]

one clear

[steady beacon]

No

[keen sable]

If you sortie once per day the xp bonus is probably greater than additional passive xp already

[frank pulsar]

HELP double everything except run count

[heavy anvil]

[undone plover]

yeah but who sorties once a day

also someone who sorties once a day probably wont refill dorm food anyway

oh wait nvm i read that wrong

yeah passive xp BAD

[hushed aurora]

Whats up with unlocking the hard stages? Is it worth it? My highest stage is 8-2

[slender heart]

It is worth it, you want that core data

[steady beacon]

Hard stages are separate from normal stages
You can do hard stages thrice a day to get core data and retrofit blueprints

[tame jungle]

what changes when you do hard mode actually? just levels and the restrictions?

[hushed aurora]

I ask for safety but these points are only worth to get the UR bullies? I could make my alsace max lb with some more coins

[steady beacon]

Levels and restrictions
That is indeed it

[cobalt rapids]

they are also for retrofit items but at lower priority

[tame jungle]

right i might wanna push for those higher level clears when i got some time then

[raw swift]

Hello, can I post my dock here and ask for fleet building advices?

[tame jungle]

go ahead and start a thread

[keen sable]

You eventually may want a few of the retro items but alsace is priority

[keen sable]

And stats. rem and ram Ikazuchi and Inazuma smh

[tame jungle]

what!

[keen sable]

Their hard mode evasion is crazy. Like 200+. That is not from level scaling

[tame jungle]

[steady beacon]

Huh, that I did not know

[raw swift]

Ayo sorry, I just want to save my threat

[sweet delta]

I keep my threat at lethal for some maps but yes you should get safe threat for farming

[tame jungle]

they meant thread

[stray bay]

hello I’m new, I did some pulls and these are all my ships that seem like they can be good, any suggestions for fleets/who I should focus on?

[viscid swift]

start by giving that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

a lot of really questionable decisions made right off the bat

[soft raft]

URs shouldnt be used at 0LB
Overall I prefer Unicorn (Especially after retrofit) over Perseus but functionally they're about the same outside of very hard content
Why arent you using your Portland
Hood Good
Hipper sucks ass

[tame jungle]

portland, unicorn, z23, alsace (idk how easy it'd be for new player to get UR bulins)

[viscid swift]

I guess stick with Tosa and Taiho since you've got so much in them already but for everything else follow the tips

[zinc turret]

ur 0 lb still usable till world 9 or 10 tho i think

[craggy lance]

With daily play I reliably max out the month cap

And then you have the one from cruise pass

[tame jungle]

but don't do it

[soft raft]

Just because you can doesnt mean you should

[zinc turret]

and by time he reached w9 / 10 he should be have enough bulin to mlb it

[tame jungle]

but by that time they might have another UR that they'd rather use too

[clear depot]

New to the game, who to pick?

[soft raft]

Doesnt matter
you'll get all 3 of them one way or another later on

[tame jungle]

whoever you like more, it doesn't matter that much

[clear depot]

Ok

[eager mulch]

javelin cute

[stray bay]

nah I beat ds3 I’m going all in on firekeeper ship

[tame jungle]

but pick z23 because she's the cutest

[soft raft]

Also give this a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[eager mulch]

rip renhex isn’t a jabbers fan anymore

[viscid swift]

usable and good are 2 very different things
they'll be waiting at least a month to MLB said UR and frankly why when there are better options they could be using

besides, priorities can and will change on who to limit break

[boreal wagon]

besides starting out like that is the prime recipe for a bad habit to emerge from it thatll bite u later

[zinc turret]

yeah they will be just a filler ship

[tame jungle]

stop trying to justify using a non mlb ship

[wispy pendant]

someone on another server said this about the new DD gun
"tatistically there is no difference between them, however, for whatever reason 113mm has a much larger variance in damage. As such it can be much worse than 76mm, even if you decide to +13 it you might not actually notice any damage increase."

Is this a hot take?

[hushed cliff]

Bismarck CV boost works for interceptor damage right

like CV AA or is it only air strike

[inland shoal]

How should I know that? I do not know what this is based on, it does seem strange to me tho

[stray bay]

thanks for all the suggestions/help 🙏

[tame jungle]

airstrike crit rate, so i don't think it actually applies to AA

i don't think AA can even crit right

[hushed cliff]

I mean this skill not her crit stuff

[inland shoal]

I think it also applies to intercept, but not 100% sure

[sweet delta]

sample size: 2 each
76mm: 100k and 105k damage
113mm: 80k and 125k damage
conclusion: 113 has much larger variance

[hushed cliff]

I’m trying to figure out if Bismarck + IB carriers will be my best AA backline for W13 cause my AA options are really limited

[tame jungle]

intercept is weird like that because it doesn't count as AA for some reason

[wispy pendant]

I dunno either

[topaz smelt]

It's just damageratio so should apply

[inland shoal]

I was gonna say I was more concerned about the trigger, but idk what trigger I read cuz that is no concern at all

[topaz smelt]

Sounds like poor testing if any

[kind slate]

where does shima do well in? compared to other dds/urs?

[tame jungle]

hella torp damage

[kind slate]

is that stuff like meta fights? or arbiter? or main campaign?

[tame jungle]

yeah

her torpedo damage is strong everywhere but double preload really shines on fights where you instantly get the boss/enemy on screen

[frank pulsar]

shima is just worse unzen

on manual she should be one of the best dps vanguards on heavy though iirc

[clear depot]

Okay reading it jst now

[tranquil hemlock]

why meta ships dont have skin?

[soft raft]

idk go ask the devs, not us

[atomic abyss]

Probably cos the metas are already alternate forms to begin with

[tranquil hemlock]

are the devs actually in this sever?

[atomic abyss]

Not the actual Devs that's for sure

All we have here are the English version publishers

[soft raft]

basically just saying that we have no real answer to that question

[tranquil hemlock]

also cn is 6 months than us right?

[soft raft]

wdym

[tranquil hemlock]

so same time

[atomic abyss]

We are synced up with CN and JP

Since like 2019 iirc

[soft raft]

CN, EN, and JP are all on the same schedule save for EN missing a single minor WA

[tranquil hemlock]

thats cool ngl i have never seen a game like that

[soft raft]

we were behind on a major WA until like this year but yeah the big 3 regions are synced

[tranquil hemlock]

just asking but could i get the free UR from event if i start the game now?

like brand new account

i have like 5days left