gameplay-help

[calm rose]

Where does Nelson place in the retrofit priority list

[viscid swift]

who's gonna be the 6th main fleet then

[fluid brook]

Well might retro her for the second fleet, but wont really do it rn

[grizzled creek]

Maaan I just don't kno what to do as far as that goes ^

[eager mulch]

independence good

[sacred silo]

Anyone know how long double ship and commander xp boost is going to last for

[eager mulch]

there’s double xp?

[grizzled creek]

If it's necessary

[viscid swift]

what Independence....

[eager mulch]

the independence he can get after he gets his shells

[sacred silo]

Only for players under commander 80

[eager mulch]

oh I’m not that bad at the game

[viscid swift]

Nelson would also be easier to retro because there's no one competing with her for BB retrofit BPs

[fluid brook]

i will leave it to the other guys, i need to go to sleep rn, but to answer you, tbh i will wait for other options, either future event or Vanny rerun

[grizzled creek]

I feel like I just need help forming my 2 teams , so I can focus on getting em ready I guess

[viscid swift]

the fleets I recced some time back are very capable of easily getting you to W12

[grizzled creek]

I trust most of y'all ... I just know there's different options & I don't wanna mess up anything

[sacred silo]

Damn why we hating :/

[viscid swift]

just commit to it for now, it's time to push

[frank kernel]

It's really not possible to mess anything up outside of scrapping something you can't get again. The worst you can do is slightly set yourself back on a more optimal route compared to the one you have already taken. Just play!

[grizzled creek]

And W12 is like the big thing to reach isn't it? After 9

[viscid swift]

yes

it's basically your permanent farming spot for the rest of the game

[frank kernel]

Choukai UR retrofit when, to make up for all the times we have killed her

[grizzled creek]

Ik it's probably bothersome but are u able to help once more w the lineup ? Cause I don't remember it fully or at least name ships to thro on fleet 2 so I can focus working on them ?

I just can't take anyone off fleet 1 yet ofc so it's hard to make the separate fleets when stuff isn't built yet

If I need to provide any pics I can of anything

[viscid swift]

Mob: Hood, Unicorn, Saratoga retro, Heinrich, Kazagumo, Sirius
Boss: Nelson retro, Alsace, Enterprise, Portland, Helena, Laffey

[grizzled creek]

Ok thx, ima set em on fleets just to make sure I get it all right

[grizzled creek]

Ofc wrong teams but these are the right characters I wanna work on ? All 12

[viscid swift]

yes

[grizzled creek]

Ok I'll work on those (I'm sure they'll be done before it happens , but is there anyone who I could potentially get that would replace anyone?)

[viscid swift]

plenty in time

[grizzled creek]

Ok, cause I know when I complete these beginner missions I could choose illustrious or San Diego + that I could get some stuff from dailies

So I guess it's just in case I get em before I finish the teams

N thx u

[zinc turret]

beginner mission kinda a bit hard to do tho imo , specially the one that ask u to +8 24 equipment

[grizzled creek]

Yea that one I think I'll struggle with cause it's so expensive but I guess it's just so ik n don't gotta ask everytime I pull someone who looks strong

[frank kernel]

You'll start generating a steady gear part income once you start playing enough. Can't get loot without slaying dragons.

until you hit high enough level and run out of white plates

[tidal meteor]

@eager mulch Lel single 113mm unbeliever spotted

[steady beacon]

They're forgetting extra 3% Siren Killer

[jaunty vault]

whos that

cheeky is that you

[eager mulch]

I’m turtle

[jaunty vault]

bros out here being quyet nguyen

[steady beacon]

Almost tempted to calculate the AoA difference...
But then I remember I don't actually care
I believe in my (equipped) torpedoes anyway

Anyway, CN probably has a new gun for anti-Laffey shenanigans

[wild whale]

that only seems possible if you're fleet power gaming

[sweet delta]

and then weapon frame rate nullifies that 0.03s anyways

[true kraken]

how can I see the ship current hit stats?

[sweet delta]

on her page?

[zinc turret]

what the difference between hit and accuration ?

[sweet delta]

usually none

[zinc turret]

so basically hit = accuration stat ?

[true kraken]

like for real?

[heavy anvil]

Got my first tenrai, do I put it on my higher dive bomber efficiency CV, or does it perfom better against mob/boss?

[frank kernel]

It only really happens if you prioritize rigging research over everything else for an extended period of time. High level white plate income is very very low. I've got 50k purple plates, 40k blues but only maybe 5k whites, and I absolutely ran empty at more than one point. Usually when I'm on maintenance mode just logging in to do dailies.

[true kraken]

how much hit stats on BB is average?

[tame jungle]

Check wiki

Also depends on level ig lol

[steady beacon]

It can do both in a non-flexible DB slot
Apart from timing purposes, put it on your best CV that can carry it

[muted forge]

Is this worth doing? And if so who should I wish for?

[tame jungle]

Check pins

[thin vapor]

Any way to hide the text box in the ship profile ( where you can see all the animations like Login )?

[silver lintel]

Which one is fdg gun?

[tame jungle]

406 SK C/34 prototype

[thin vapor]

I always use " Azur Lane tier list " it shows all the gears

[steady beacon]

/wiki Twin 406mm SK C/34

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_406mm_(SK_C/34_Prototype)

[forest palm]

it's really just the H Class Gun

[plain saffron]

Afaik nope

[plain saffron]

Frfr no cap

[stark quiver]

tech channel ded, so ima ask here, what are some emulators i can use for macbook

[topaz smelt]

run a windows vm to run a emu vm

[forest palm]

could check with #al-general

[stark quiver]

think i js got a virus

nice

[topaz smelt]

should just sell it for a pc

prob for 2 pcs actually

[forest palm]

if you get a virus in the year 2024 that is honestly a skill issue

[frank kernel]

on a macintosh no less

[stark quiver]

got a mac for classes, found out that class time is really nice for al grinding

[plain saffron]

Is there even emu for arm

[frank kernel]

unironically running a windows vm might be your best bet.

[forest palm]

when you get Mac it's not for gaming

[plain saffron]

Yeah vm in vm

[topaz smelt]

the os is another vm

[plain saffron]

I would prob look into cloud

[topaz smelt]

that might actually be worse

[mint flint]

you can use android studio to emulate an android device if you want

[stark quiver]

i should probably just pay attention in class

[plain saffron]

There's android studio for mac?

[mint flint]

yeah

[forest palm]

does it run proper

[mint flint]

i can get a device running and install and use apps but al blackscreens for some reason

[topaz smelt]

working as intended

[plain saffron]

Is this arm or x86 mac

[topaz smelt]

cant you emulate ios on mac and play using app store version?

[mint flint]

the apple dev app doesnt let you simulate apple devices with an app store

[left gull]

Is a second mogador worth getting

[mint flint]

if you lack bulins

[topaz smelt]

kek, just sell it and get a pc and a laptop

[sweet merlin]

maint later?

[wind hazel]

ye

[zinc turret]

why sometimes my ship didnt get exp at opsi and sometimes its give exp?

[steady beacon]

Because some enemies in OpSi just don't give exp

[inner delta]

The already spawned enemy give exp and the one spawned after doesnt

[steady beacon]

(Usually they're the ones with blue markings, but there are a couple of others as well)

[inner delta]

It basically stop you from abusing exp grind loop

[zinc turret]

loop ? the spawned enemy limited aint it ? and i feel like its wasting time to kill all the enemy if some of em doesnt give exp

[frank kernel]

In hidden zones, mobs spawn every X number of movement phases until the zone is clear. Strategic Search can actually get stuck this way sometimes, if the path is blocked, and your assigned fleet will just run around the map clearing 0xp enemies forever

[zinc turret]

ooooooo

[frank kernel]

If they gave xp the "best" way to grind would be to sit 1 fleet on the node that needs to be cleared and send another fleet around gaining xp into infinity. It's less xp/time than other methods but basically infinite.

[sweet merlin]

maint for what?

[crimson glacier]

#game-news

[steady beacon]

Oath skins and gear lab

[forest palm]

[zinc turret]

well thanks , i guess i should just clear the hidden zone asap without killing the enemies

[topaz smelt]

do i see mk7 not taking electronics?

[frank kernel]

Auto-search--as absolutely infuriatingly inefficient as it is in hidden zones--will only clear the mobs it absolutely needs to clear, so it's still recommended.

[zinc turret]

i think auto search only work on secured and explorable zone

[keen sable]

20 electronics

[zinc turret]

the rest are have to clear it manually

[steady beacon]

It does indirectly, since the Mk D takes elecs

[atomic abyss]

It works if you bought the hidden logger I guess...

[frank kernel]

Nah you can use Auto-Search when you enter a hidden zone manually. It's only Strategic Search that needs the logger

[zinc turret]

i seee

[atomic abyss]

I mean well

[topaz smelt]

is it even cheaper that way?

[atomic abyss]

Auto is gonna stop very quickly once it gets to a dark area

[frank kernel]

Well you're entering it manually, so use recon. :p

[atomic abyss]

For C4+
At least you can gun for the lighthouse

And then auto from there

[zinc turret]

kimochi recommended to use order to light all the map

[cobalt rapids]

are there 2 recipes for mk7 ?

[atomic abyss]

I mean, you can use recon order

[topaz smelt]

thats how i read the datamine

[atomic abyss]

If it's off cooldown it's free

[frank kernel]

The problem with it happening during Strategic Search is that turning SS on usually means you're planning on not really paying attention to it for an extended period of time while it clears multiple maps.

[atomic abyss]

If you're rushing the hidden nodes then it's not free

[keen sable]

yes that would be ideal

[topaz smelt]

so is the only thing good mk7 and new scylla gun

[atomic abyss]

Just head straight for the lighthouse on C4+ and save the AP lul

[zinc turret]

i see , its have cd huh so speedrunning while keep use recon will waste lots of ap

[forest palm]

MK7, and the 113 seem to be the new toys this updated

[topaz smelt]

AA gun looks pretty ass

[atomic abyss]

NoCar mains weeping

[crimson glacier]

there will never be AA gun good enough to make norcal relevant

[atomic abyss]

[forest palm]

If NC was ever going to be relevant she'd need to be originally good

[lament hazel]

Who should I MLB first

[fathom sable]

Right and considering i need the tech points also

[topaz smelt]

yikes

[cobalt rapids]

dont partial lb ships anymore for starters
as for mlb depends what u need

[plain saffron]

If you bought 5k oil all are reconned already so you can truly afk

[sleek spade]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[stone sluice]

Where can I see it?

[cobalt rapids]

in datamine from pins

[sleek spade]

ah it's branched from that shitty gold AP gun that requires 6 top secrets

[topaz smelt]

still prob better than paying electronics

[plain saffron]

[sleek spade]

yes... that's a lot of electronics

is that 356mm blue main gun in the purple boxes?

[steady beacon]

Ye

[sleek spade]

nice I'll open some

[blissful hamlet]

how many mk7 is recommended?

[cobalt rapids]

3

[atomic abyss]

not over the 457 tho

[cobalt rapids]

they dont conflict

[opaque galleon]

How many of those 80mm IJN AAs should you make? Is it a good AA gun and is the skill worth putting it on most IJN cruisers?

[blissful hamlet]

well I already have 3 457

[topaz smelt]

ye but everything else does

[sleek spade]

conflict with the top secrets, which I dont have a lot of...

but only 6 per gun so should be ok...

[opaque galleon]

0 because bad AA and bad skill or 0 because it takes chips?

[pulsar hornet]

Just trying to remember 2x reward doesnt include affection right? Trying to just find the besy way to get my Hakuryuu to max affection adter putting a ring on her

[cobalt rapids]

it includes

[plain saffron]

best way is to play normally

how many battles needed idk

because it's random

[blissful hamlet]

you'll get 100 aff before she reaches lv 125

[sleek spade]

is that IJN 80mm AA good or is it kinda shit?

[cobalt rapids]

they said she just got oathed

[plain saffron]

i recommend reading

[frank kernel]

Only thing I can remember that the Efficiency Plans don't double was crafting materials in the Ryza event

[topaz smelt]

wrong region for recc

[plain saffron]

my Hakuryuu to max affection adter putting a ring on her

[steady beacon]

At the very least, you wouldn't use it for AA optimisation I don't think, based on damage and cooldown
And just based on a quick calculation using Shimanto (assume Ply gun + Crossbow), you get
(182+20+65)*0.05 = 13.35
So like... if you wanted to optimise the FP, you could just carry Twin 134 instead

[stone sluice]

How many rainbow DD gun from gear lab recommended?

[opaque galleon]

Because it’s just 5% fp and if you want an offensive AA, for most IJN cruisers the British ones give more damage?

[cobalt rapids]

1-2 or 0-1 now with mog gun available

[shell willow]

anyone knows what armor event ex is?

[cobalt rapids]

heavy

[steady beacon]

EX is heavy

[opaque galleon]

Fair enough, is there any argument for using it on Unzen and Azuma?

[shell willow]

thx

[sleek spade]

unzen doesnt take DD gun tho

[cobalt rapids]

they are talking about the aa

[opaque galleon]

AA gun

[sleek spade]

ah

is the only good thing this update is the Mk7 gun?

[hard mesa]

New AA effect is 5%FP for ship equip it?

[opaque galleon]

The dd gun is pretty good

[forest palm]

The 113

[cobalt rapids]

there is since it gives more than an 134

[topaz smelt]

prob pretty low prio tho

[opaque galleon]

How dogwater is the actual AA capacity?

[cobalt rapids]

u dont want to use it for actual aa-ing

[sleek spade]

oh what kind of girl does it go on? low FP barrage girls like Shima?

nice

[crimson glacier]

doesnt seem too important tho

[forest palm]

Yes, anyone that used the 76 can move to the 113

[opaque galleon]

I assume even worse than 134s then, got it

[topaz smelt]

prob not even worth the investment

[forest palm]

For the average player I guess, but for me I have the resources to do as I please

[crimson glacier]

well yeah, but if something is only really worth it when worth has lost all meaning

[topaz smelt]

ill prob skip since i dont see much of a difference nor using them anytime soon

[crimson glacier]

that just isnt worth for the ppl who actually have to think about resources

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmm...
(316+65+25)x0.05 = 20.3, 15x0.2 = 3 < 5.3...
So... sure, I suppose
I'm keeping STAAGs anyway

[crimson glacier]

like it has very slightly more range than 76 but isnt that like the only difference

[forest palm]

I personally don't care if it's worth, mind you I'm not going to recommend it, and all I really said is that you can move to the 113

[topaz smelt]

you forgot the other conditional

[rose whale]

anything worth crafting from today's gear lab update? 😄

[opaque galleon]

Yeah it’s halved if it actually fires

[forest palm]

Mostly just the Mk7

[crimson glacier]

mk7 is nice, but i feel like most ppl will be dissapointed

[topaz smelt]

cant rmbr the last time i used it

[sleek spade]

isnt it a big upgrade over mk6 for ppl that dont have it?

[steady beacon]

I'm making the assumption we're only gonna use this for a boss fight with no planes
... I am supposing we probably won't be using it in a fight with planes

[crimson glacier]

its upgrade, but not really a big upgrade

[rose whale]

will it help clearing w15 easier? if so, i'll make one or two 😄

[crimson glacier]

i dont see it being that useful in w15

[cobalt rapids]

what u want for w15 is 457s

[crimson glacier]

its pretty good upgrade over mk6 at +13 but thats super expensive

[opaque galleon]

.3 FP buff on rainbow azuma at worst kekw

[sleek spade]

is it worth +13 any UR items?

[cobalt rapids]

#bot-spam /plus13

[crimson glacier]

depends how much +13 stuff you already have

[sleek spade]

not very many

[topaz smelt]

does a fight like that even exist

[steady beacon]

Modern META I suppose

[sleek spade]

yea but I dont have skyraider and that Vanguard event Aux

[cobalt rapids]

cms and showdown

[opaque galleon]

I mean as long as there aren’t planes every 3 seconds it’s fine right?

[topaz smelt]

any down time makes it a lot worse

[cobalt rapids]

u can save 360 aux plates since vanny rerun is lurking but for limited gear you dont have you ignore it

[forest palm]

Oh, right 2nd AFCT

[sleek spade]

ah then all the UR stuffs I have is not worth upgrade

[opaque galleon]

Between 10 fp and 10 hit, what’s better for Azuma and Unzen?

[topaz smelt]

campaign

[plain saffron]

Why gaem down

[opaque galleon]

Maintenance

[topaz smelt]

dedgaem

[rose whale]

my fleet still running OPSI

[thorny bay]

is the game supposed to be down? still running (even after reopennig the app)

[graceful meteor]

new skin/ship good? 📢

[rose whale]

🤔 after extended maintenance, we have extended live now!

[topaz smelt]

its maint, progress isnt saved, oil spent is lost

[rose whale]

oh, it's down

[sweet merlin]

what contnet will be coming after maint?

[rose whale]

new gearlab stuff

[sweet merlin]

so slimuda + wiki update?

[fickle scarab]

Wow a 76mm competitor that's probably 0.01% better for 20000x the price

[rapid grail]

we eating good

[hollow gust]

Hows the golden dd gun?

[fickle scarab]

Just use 76mm fr

[topaz smelt]

hows the 76mm

[rapid grail]

mmm marginal increase for +13. ahh i love fleet power number

[topaz smelt]

its just like +10 fp

[hollow gust]

Sweet, that's more useful to me then the mk7

[topaz smelt]

havent used either in a year

[hollow gust]

CV main let's gooo

[crimson glacier]

but is it even better than 76, doesnt it have slightly slower fire rate

[topaz smelt]

prob negligible

[crimson glacier]

well yeah its 0,04 seconds

[fickle scarab]

0.3 less fire rate but more range and dmg so yes better but not worth

[topaz smelt]

prob new scylla gun at best

[crimson glacier]

dmg is literally meaningless

[fickle scarab]

Ik

[crimson glacier]

the range part is the useful part

and i guess some ppl just need shiny stuff on their ships

[rapid grail]

TRUE.

let me get my 120 gold gun plates for this momentous occasion

[fickle scarab]

It's just 120mm with 0.06 faster fire rate

[steady beacon]

You underestimate the optimisations we seek in certain environments tbh

[rapid grail]

Silence. A faster 120mm is cause for celebration. Bring me my fleet power number

[opaque galleon]

It’s basically half of the twin 113, which checks out

[plain saffron]

So what's the tldr for new gear

[opaque galleon]

Same damage per shot, half the rounds per second

[atomic abyss]

The 113 is a shinier blue 120

[steady beacon]

... Nagami, why do YOU need the TLDR for the gear
You're literally the one who got it for us

[atomic abyss]

Still slower than the 76, but has more range and very slightly more damage

Pilica

[plain saffron]

Mining and understanding meta is different

[atomic abyss]

Pulling out information and interpreting information are very different skills

With that said

[steady beacon]

[atomic abyss]

Nagami should be equally capable of both at this point

[fickle scarab]

Expensive upgrade to 120mm, shit gun, shit gun, shit gun, mk7

[sleek spade]

how come mk7 isn't very useful?

[forest palm]

The 113 isn't even that expensive

[fickle scarab]

Yes which makes it make even less sense

[fickle scarab]

It is the only useful thing this update

[tame jungle]

Best HE gun

[sleek spade]

yea but the other guys give me the impression that it's not used a lot lol

[crimson glacier]

coz HE is only for light

most enemies arent light

[sleek spade]

meds?

[atomic abyss]

and not many people that are asking questions here were around since NJ event

[crimson glacier]

AP is for med and heavy

[atomic abyss]

for med and heavy there's champy or 457

[tame jungle]

AP for med

[sleek spade]

most enemies are meds right?

[opaque galleon]

Bad perspective

[tame jungle]

Doesn’t matter what most enemies are

[crimson glacier]

med is the most common

[sleek spade]

mmm fair

[atomic abyss]

most RELEVANT enemies are med

[topaz smelt]

Just wait for next meta

[forest palm]

MK7 is going to likely be relevant in the coming Meta Fight

[steady beacon]

I'd probably fixate a bit on the cost above all else
Non-trivial to build in Lab (and competes for the generic UR prints)
Then 360 plates to +13

[rapid grail]

Guess gatekeeping the newer players on NJ/Iowa gun is no longer worth it. It's joever

[crimson glacier]

mk7 has never been the gatekeeper tho

[opaque galleon]

That’s if it doesn’t invalidate HVARs

[sleek spade]

tbf I dont have other uses for UR gun prints since I have enough 100mm Kai. It's mostly the top secrets that's annoying to get lol

[forest palm]

Assuming players have HVARs

[opaque galleon]

True

[forest palm]

At best it's the BFG

[sleek spade]

I don't have UR skyraiders...

[opaque galleon]

That being said, idk if HVAR spam is still the best against light with biz2 and Alsace both having good anti light barrages

[crimson glacier]

skyraider really isnt that insane

[steady beacon]

That's fair then
If you can afford to build it, then go for it

[sleek spade]

mmm

[forest palm]

Anyway it is a tad hyperbolic to say the MK7 is not useful, it does have a fair amount of potential use cases, and can exist as an option

[sleek spade]

I see

[crimson glacier]

but i dont think ppl have really been saying its not useful

[opaque galleon]

Skyraider is pretty insane

[forest palm]

Between you, and Rice that's the general impression yall give

[crimson glacier]

i mean if ppl want to see something that doesnt exist then theres nothing i can do to stop them

[wet prairie]

mk6 will get you most of the way for light perf

[forest palm]

Would rather just take HVAR, or BFGs at that point

[eternal basalt]

Pre-6/6: The best! Post 6/6 - Eeeh, it isn't that useful

[sullen creek]

Damn skyraider is way better at anti medium that I originally thought

[opaque galleon]

I mean mk7 is like a solid 20% better than mk6 when +13

[topaz smelt]

Well it's like when was the last time you've used the gun

[sleek spade]

360 plates is a lot tho

[wet prairie]

but where would you really need it tbh

[forest palm]

Recently ironically

[opaque galleon]

Probably on some cm a while ago

[topaz smelt]

Prob harby

[wet prairie]

cvs exist

[sleek spade]

is it better to SMASH THE SHIT outta Opsi light bosses with rocket planes or big BB fleet w Mk7s?

[crimson glacier]

i just use AP

[opaque galleon]

Depends on if you have HVAR and if the boss has airplanes

[sullen creek]

[forest palm]

You can actually kill Ops Light bosses with AP

[crimson glacier]

yeah they arent strong enough vs just dumb brute force

[forest palm]

Fights take longer

[sleek spade]

I often use 109G cus I got no better options

[crimson glacier]

ofc its not optimal but it works and im not going to swap gears

[sullen creek]

That's so funny

[forest palm]

You're definitely not getting away with it on Arbiter

[crimson glacier]

eh depends, sometimes my AP BB fleet does like 70% dmg on light harby

[steady beacon]

I always lean to the former, but no reason you can't do to the latter
Personal preference

[sleek spade]

mmmm

[opaque galleon]

If you don’t want to swap gears you may as well use HE for the best spread lol

[crimson glacier]

like even the light arby somewhat likes AP since the summon is med

the thing is that HE is a lot worse than AP

[topaz smelt]

You just throw your CV fleet into it and if it somehow doesn't die, your mob fleet is prob enough to finish it

[crimson glacier]

AP is more accurate

[forest palm]

Either way I do find it hyperbolic to be this dismissive of the MK7

[crimson glacier]

i mean its a good gun, its just not nearly as good as what some ppl believe

ppl always get these twisted ideas about stuff they dont own

[topaz smelt]

You use it if you need it, there's just not much content that calls for it

Like getting a gun to use once every 3 months doesn't sound really useful

[sullen creek]

Once Wichita meta fight comes people will stop complaining about this

[crimson glacier]

isnt witchita med when she is enemy

[atomic abyss]

light

[forest palm]

Light

[crimson glacier]

atleast she was med on some events before

[atomic abyss]

like all the northampton class CAs

[crimson glacier]

i know about our copy, tahts not who im talking about

[opaque galleon]

I don’t think the metas would differ though, since we also get a copy

[crimson glacier]

im like 100% sure witchita was med as enemy before

yes and im not talking about the copy we would get

[sullen creek]

Wait and find out

[crimson glacier]

indeed

[topaz smelt]

Was Wichita one of the old cm boss

[crimson glacier]

cant say

but i doubt

[inland shoal]

What date does Rodney end?

[cobalt rapids]

12th

[inland shoal]

Hmm curious they didn't add Wichita yet

Guess they'll do it the exact day we get her?

[cobalt rapids]

i mean they just add her with main on 13th

[tender lotus]

So the new 113mm gun gonna replace the 76mm gun as the best barrage gun?

[cobalt rapids]

if ure rich mby

[tender lotus]

Is it that expensive?

[cobalt rapids]

24 electronics yea

[inland shoal]

Plus tiny upgrade and 76 being as free as it gets

[cobalt rapids]

• w.e the prereq

[inner delta]

[inland shoal]

Yeah it's just I thought they added them earlier usually

[tender lotus]

I don't have to craft it then

[kind slate]

i already have 1 wyvern. should i get the mk7 or another wyvern?

[inland shoal]

I think I'd rather get another Wyvern

[tame jungle]

Difference between mk7 and the purple at +10 is pretty minimal

Wyvern likely a bigger upgrade

[kind slate]

but i heard wyvern not used in bossing? thats why i was slightly conflicted

[sharp socket]

which one of these can i swap out for alsace once shes leveled

[cobalt rapids]

hood and swap entyh with sara

also gear choices are weird, like hedge on laffey ? are u tackling sub content
and def replace btd with helldivers

[sharp socket]

i dunno what else to put on laffey thats why

i dont have enough helldiver

[cobalt rapids]

nvm actually swap unicorn with sara not enty

[cobalt rapids]

toolkit

[sharp socket]

hold on why is my mob and boss backline flipped

hmm is it actually flipped or not i dunno

yeah it is flipped now its fine

[uneven cave]

You tell us
Like in that first fleet, Uni and Hood are better on mob, but Enty and Helena are better on boss

[sharp socket]

cause my mob has weak vanguard

and so i try to spread them

monty is getting changed out for sandy when i get her up

or mog depending on how she gets eval

[cobalt rapids]

can u mlb mog

[nova hawk]

Will the mog event go away after maintenance

[opaque galleon]

1 more week

[nova hawk]

Nice thank god

[blissful hamlet]

Bearn meta crystal will be on meta shop after event?

[kind slate]

is there any content which cant be cleared by a BB fleet that requires a CV fleet? just curious

[cobalt rapids]

wdym a cv fleet
campaign prefers mixed either way but its clearable up to w15 with only BBs if u like torture
opsi all clearable with bb fleets if u reset hard enough
cms and meta are gimmicky and specific but idr a cm not being clearable with only bb as for meta idr

[wet prairie]

the new stuff isnt anything notable right?

[cobalt rapids]

nothing more than slightgrades yes

[wet prairie]

also whats this?

[wet prairie]

faction locked smh, the new uk gun seems good though, its like the 120mm but 0.5s faster

[cobalt rapids]

faction locked

[paper timber]

Does Sushi sync better with Bis2, Vang and Helena if oathed?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[wet prairie]

still too slow for sustained iirc

my sushi is like 21s with triple 410

[frank pulsar]

oath shaves off like 0.4s with triple 410

[coarse berry]

Hey guys is it useful to lvl up 2 alsace or I should just full limit break her with copy

[jaunty vault]

it isnt worth raising dupes

so lb with copy

[coarse berry]

Alright so just one full limit break lvl125 🙏

Thanks buddy

[jaunty vault]

[whole crypt]

sup moggies

how's the new gear looking

[hard mesa]

[atomic abyss]

the purple 113 is an upgrade to the single 120

[jaunty vault]

mk7 good

[atomic abyss]

so it's a longer range, slightly more dps single 76
that is way more ex

mk7 mats are lol

[jaunty vault]

isnt the 113 gold

[whole crypt]

mk7 is just a shiny mk6 and not new so

[atomic abyss]

can't remember
yeah shd be gold

preliminary guesses say it might be better on scylla only

[jaunty vault]

i prefer to call it better mk6

[hard mesa]

Single 113mm is gold single 120mm

[whole crypt]

mk6+1

[blazing shale]

Which meta joins the dossier next?

[steady beacon]

QE

[uncut oar]

I recall this being mentioned back when I was using Howe but, as a sanity check, you aren't bringing a HE BB gun to medium or heavy for the burn are you?

[atomic abyss]

not in today's age at least

[uncut oar]

Yeah, figured

[atomic abyss]

it is a valid idea for new players lacking champagne guns tho

[uncut oar]

I think this was something mentioned because Howe's barrage has a standard BB HE burn?

[steady beacon]

Ye prio 4

[whole crypt]

ew used the wrong option for mk7

[uncut oar]

Good job dalao

[steady beacon]

Taking bets you won't be the only one who misclicked that

[atomic abyss]

I do think we will see a lot of it

and people asking cs for refunds

[uncut oar]

I wanted to until I saw +2 designs in recipe and then silently cursed

[frank pulsar]

i regret making a second 100 kai ill never use

[whole crypt]

you can use quite a few rainbow ducks

[uncut oar]

I have like 3 or 4 and want like 6

[whole crypt]

well I guess I saved myself some ordnance reports with that

[steady beacon]

Well, I'll be willingly parting with two extra UR prints to get back 35 gold plates...

[whole crypt]

if you have +11 mk6 yeh

[uncut oar]

<--- cannot spare the ur prints for that purpose

[whole crypt]

you'll have more than enough eventually

[uncut oar]

Yeah ik

Coming back from hiatus wack

[whole crypt]

I still have 84 selectors after that shit lol

[primal obsidian]

is it better to craft using ordnances or +2 prints? i got 45 ordnances and like 3 main gun prints + 14 generic ur prints

[uncut oar]

Dalao moment

[whole crypt]

privileges of 👴

[cobalt rapids]

depends on which mats u care more about

[whole crypt]

personally I lean towards using designs, ordreps needed to make prototype gear

[cobalt rapids]

theres only 100kai other than mk7 but that does eat 44 more electronics aswell

[jaunty vault]

you're only using 6 ordnance

and saving 2 UR selectors

sure if you've been playing opsi since 2020 you wont need them

[whole crypt]

it adds up when you're making 🥞 and waiting on rainboword

[primal obsidian]

oh yeah electronics too, i guess i'll go with ordnances then

[cobalt rapids]

if u got 2 457s

[whole crypt]

if you haven't unlocked lv95 box raid I guess

[vagrant spoke]

Wait you could make the UR BB gun?

[uncut oar]

Waitasec pancake is a t3 ord craft? I've never actually crafted one because I have enough tigercats to go around

[vagrant spoke]

I thought it was event locked

[cobalt rapids]

it gets added to gearlab with this maint

[uncut oar]

Gearlab literally in 2 hours when maint done

[vagrant spoke]

Whooooooooo yeaassssssss

[whole crypt]

gold ords, but you can craft gold into rainbow

[vagrant spoke]

I haven’t done operation siren for the past few months so it doesn’t even matter

[primal obsidian]

i dont have a single one yet, can make only one for now, im currently using 2x+13 champy and +13 soyuz

[cobalt rapids]

well mk7 isnt high prio either way, ure better off using ur ord and electronics on 457 and planes and what not

ull want 2 457 if u wanna have a good time mobbing in w14/15

[primal obsidian]

got 2 wyverns, i dont think 3rd is necessary for now

ur ords for 457 and ur prints for mk7

[cobalt rapids]

consider if u can afford to +13, +10 mk7 isnt worth its cost over mk6

[primal obsidian]

i can make it +12, im short 50 plates or so to make it +13

[whole crypt]

actually I only crafted because I wanted a slower gun for VG

[cobalt rapids]

i mean if ure rich in opsi mats ull get to have 3 eitherway but yea

[uncut oar]

I don't have all my gold planes +13 yet but do I switch gears and +13 my 2 457?

[whole crypt]

I'm 👴 enough for the 2 event copies so this is just completing the collection

[uncut oar]

like... I can only get 1 457 to +12 atm

[whole crypt]

the thing is when gearing for HE without a 3rd copy VG gets Mk6 which is slightly faster

[cobalt rapids]

i reccommend only +13ing gear when u actually need em for certain content past the general reccs

[whole crypt]

next 13 is mog gun for me

[cobalt rapids]

ill decide on wichita if i do unzen or mog

[uncut oar]

after event assuming I don't go back to I'm working on w13 through 15 because I want houston II

it's mostly that plates are really hard to save, so if it is something you should do, I'll have to plan ahead

[cobalt rapids]

while +13 457 is great for 14/15 i recc waiting because ur account might alr be strong enough to not need it and 457 dont get much used outside campaign

[undone plover]

Renhex I am sure I asked this a while back but just double checking before I commit my plates
+13 mk7 higher prio than 457 correct?

[uncut oar]

I am using 1 457 in opsi mob to snipe chibis actually

mk7 + 457 combo

but yeah, I'll wait, I think I still have my w13 fleet together but I'll have to check later just to be sure and people can tell me if I need the +13 at that point

[cobalt rapids]

457 is bis rn for campaign mobbing unless ur name is musashi
mk7 is best on light bosses but
consider what content ure pushing for that warrants either
but tldr 457 better for campaign
and mk7 is for light meta showdowns oneshots or cm speedrun shenenigans

[undone plover]

Yeah but not like campaign needs the +13 right?
I was thinking I +13 one mk7 for my kearsarge. Will have enough plates for one more UR after that.

[hard mesa]

457 good because of faster cooldown and wont overlap with cv right?

[whole crypt]

Kearsarge can use 457 too, if you're fighting medium with her

[cobalt rapids]

i think just clearing campaign without 3* lethal doesnt warrant +13 457 either but yea

[whole crypt]

457 good in late campaign because heavy armour spam

[jaunty vault]

it hits pretty hard too

[undone plover]

One mk7 one 457 then?
Or do ply/hinden first?

[whole crypt]

BB gun before vanguard gun

[undone plover]

Mk7 > 457 > ply/hinden?
Also how many of each BB gun? 3x mk7 2x 457?

[jaunty vault]

that is for you to decide

in the end you decide your own gear priority

[whole crypt]

have you enhanced champagne/soyuz gun yet

[undone plover]

Only 3x champy

[whole crypt]

I'd usually say HE lower priority but next META is light so wait and see I guess

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[undone plover]

K will wait

[rapid grail]

Wichita Meta, right? She light armor?

[jaunty vault]

yes

most likely

stay tuned™️

[undone plover]

CA so no aurora (I finally have her and cant use her )

[cobalt rapids]

any1 tried mog tank vs arim ?

[jaunty vault]

no

[cobalt rapids]

ok

[whole crypt]

coping for teleport to gtfo from anchors?

[tranquil crescent]

when does the maintenance end

[eternal basalt]

1h15

[jaunty vault]

check discord event

[steady beacon]

That's what Sirius is for

[undone plover]

Or bristol

[hard mesa]

Is aurora build only?

[steady beacon]

Ye

[jaunty vault]

game is up

[steady beacon]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
Thanks for telling

[hushed stone]

May I ask what do you use for this?

[cobalt rapids]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[sharp socket]

renhex

[hushed stone]

Thanks chief

[plain saffron]

smh self advertising

[sharp socket]

oh that guy is the one that made it

[hushed stone]

Pog

[plain saffron]

so how many ships uses the new barrrage gun?

[cobalt rapids]

any1 that uses 76mm

[plain saffron]

how many

[cobalt rapids]

idk nagami

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmm...
Shima, Aya, Kaza, Kawa
Scylla if you want barrage spam
And FortM ofc
(Probably missing some, but those are the ones that come to mind)

[plain saffron]

so at least 7

huh few years and only 27 UR gun print, is that normal amount

isn't there used to be a button to switch recipe somewhere

[knotty portal]

what do you do in siren again '-'

[sharp token]

the update is out?

[plain saffron]

ouh you need to click the different...same icon... i swear there was a button before

[atomic abyss]

honestly? debatable

it's still slower than the 76 soooooooo

the difference is the +13 buff

[plain saffron]

how much % slower with all other cd

[blazing shale]

76mm? new barrage gun?

[cobalt rapids]

its 0.03s slower but weapon queue smth smth doesnt matter but 5 range good

[atomic abyss]

^

[blazing shale]

where do you find those in gear lab

[atomic abyss]

the 5 range was literally the only thing the single 120 had over the single 76

[plain saffron]

so time to craft them

[atomic abyss]

the gold gun has the advantage of being only 0.03s slower, have gold stats, have +13 buff for opsi and 5 more range

AND BEING SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE

[blazing shale]

[tame jungle]

Gold gun takes electronics

[jaunty vault]

click on the wrenches on the gear you want to craft on the gear lab equip tree

[tame jungle]

Painful ass material

[jaunty vault]

not for me

[plain saffron]

for me specifically i don't really care

[jaunty vault]

me neither

[atomic abyss]

it will likely be about as relevant as fuze AA guns for most players

[tame jungle]

I mean if you got enough of them sure craft 1 i guess lol

[blazing shale]

which gun is that?

[plain saffron]

this gun have prob 10x more use than fuze AA gun

[atomic abyss]

single 113

[tame jungle]

British single 113

[steady beacon]

Ehhhhh... I wouldn't go that far lol
Prob most PvPers are crafting like three as we speak
Something that probably cannot be said for fuze AA guns

[cobalt rapids]

problem with fuze aa was that it was worse than the alternatives

[atomic abyss]

it is simply far too low on the priority rung for most players

[cobalt rapids]

yea ofc

its for rich ppl

[plain saffron]

i have 84 kms dd gun, 7 of those barrage gun won't affect me much

[jaunty vault]

im rich

[atomic abyss]

if you are rich, then you're in the top 0.01% of players

moggers

[cobalt rapids]

95% of statistics are made up

[steady beacon]

Ender, it can't possibly be that low a proportion lol

[atomic abyss]

i mean that's still 2000 players if we assume everyone on this server plays AL

[wide snow]

I want to prepare for the september challenge mode what do I need?

[plain saffron]

so already invalid

[atomic abyss]

i mean the point is you're in the minority

[cobalt rapids]

what was september cm

[steady beacon]

Granted
But probably not the 0.01% minority

[atomic abyss]

so this gear lab update should not change anything for recommendations in this channel

[steady beacon]

Helena iirc

[atomic abyss]

because said minorities probably wouldn't be asking anyways

[cobalt rapids]

oh yea it was just 3 ur with sg on a non helena vg iirc

and 20s sync

[plain saffron]

but mk7

[little plinth]

NJ gun is best HE gun right? how many should I have, 3? 5?

[atomic abyss]

3

[cobalt rapids]

at most 3 but they arent high prio

[atomic abyss]

they are lower priority in comparison to other gear lab stuff ye

[little plinth]

guess I'll craft 1 more for now to have 2

[steady beacon]

Ngl, there's a part of me wondering about the need for three...
Esp if the calculations done so far on cooldown hold...
Knowing me, I will end up with four in the end though

[jaunty vault]

there's no need for 3

[cobalt rapids]

theres no need for 1

[exotic wren]

3 for an entire anti light BB fleet you guys are dum dum

[jaunty vault]

i was gonna say that

[cobalt rapids]

it rly depends on ur comp ig and timings

[vagrant spoke]

What is the commemorative item from the summer invite?

I wanna know if I should go for waifu or a ship I don’t have yet

[jaunty vault]

its a commemorative item

oh that check pins

[steady beacon]

Alright, let me rephrase...
I wonder if one should want three...

[jaunty vault]

i want 3

[exotic wren]

well I do too

[jaunty vault]

and everyone shoulf follow me

cause im the best

[rose cosmos]

is brennus worth the coins? I have 4 dupes now, she does look good

[vagrant spoke]

Is the commemorative item different for every ship or is it the same no matter what ship you pick tho

[jaunty vault]

you uhh get a letter with the face of the shipgirl you pick

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur dock but shes basicly free with 4 dupes

[jaunty vault]

brennus is good but worth is subjective
read description in #event-faq and (preliminary) evals from your favourite tierlist and decide for yourself

[novel condor]

Doubt

[jaunty vault]

haters gonna hate 💅 ✨

[novel condor]

Keep up the good work Goober the gph mod

[steady beacon]

You are at least the best at not using confusing emotes

And for that I am grateful

[novel condor]

I mean pil has a point tbf , you're one of the few who actually give explanations

[plain saffron]

but me 😔

[ocean island]

how to win event SP? do i need fleet with like 17k power or what?

[cobalt rapids]

proper lvls and gear and fleet power is a useless metric

[atomic abyss]

^

using 2 fleets helps a lot

[plain saffron]

usually same fleet as D3 works

• assuming full fleet and not some minmax low oil fleet

[vagrant spoke]

What other tierlists are out there other than ectl?

[cobalt rapids]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List by Rice#7016 & Slime#2203
🔹'Samvaluation' event ships' evaluations by samheart564#4031
🔹CN tier list by NGA

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[novel condor]

uh which new gun is the barrage gun that you can replace the 76mm with?

[cobalt rapids]

single 113

[novel condor]

tyvm

this one right?

[south sequoia]

is single 113 straight upgrade or is the teeny tiny fr difference gonna matter

[cobalt rapids]

its a teeny tiny straight upgrade

[vagrant spoke]

Is the 76mm y’all talking about the blue tier black gun

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[atomic abyss]

Upgrade if you rich af basically

Ultimately there is the range and opsi boost so

[plain saffron]

and dmg modifier

[frank pulsar]

if you want range can just use the other blue gun

this is just for veterans with too much resources imho

[tame jungle]

Electronics moment

[steady beacon]

The things one will do for increasing the uptime of the slash

[meager gyro]

will mainz be helpful to me?

[atomic abyss]

[south sequoia]

Mainz can be a good asset and a good cl but she isn't exactly doing anything special nor is she fulfilling any major and vital role in a fleet

[meager gyro]

yeah i just noticed that i had her almost finished from back then

[vast sparrow]

Are there other good CA Aux other than Washing Machine and Repairs?

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#cruiser_auxiliary

[steady beacon]

The other evasion auxes (Beaver Tag etc.) if you need to stack two

[frank pulsar]

stuff like beaver badge or ice bomb if you wanna stack eva ig, and fumo/oxytorp if survivability not a concern

[strange sphinx]

is she good to replace my amagi?

[cobalt rapids]

assuming same lvls yes

[south sequoia]

I couldn't recall, what was soyuz' performance in med compared to sashi? was sashi better or were they equal

[sullen creek]

Soyuz is generally better

[atomic abyss]

[sullen creek]

Assuming paired with another BB

[atomic abyss]

For the sake of simplicity, they can be used interchangeably for the average user

But ultimately the key difference can be summarised as
Musashi is better in mob and Soyuz is better in boss

[steady beacon]

The solution is use neither for boss

[atomic abyss]

Ok sorry to be exact

Musashi's skills make her a prime pick for mobbing in end game content

[south sequoia]

@steady beacon Do you have like a set up for trying to slip in alsace between zwei and vanny or should I not bother if I slap in brest or whatever other good french ship in the vanguard

[steady beacon]

It's not like she is bad at mobbing pre-endgame content tbf 👀

[hard mesa]

If AP BB fleet, i usually put Alsace with flan gun and zwei with soyuz gun

[cunning bison]

isit wise to slap a he gun and an ap gun on 2 battleships in the same fleet?

[frank pulsar]

depends on what youre trying to do and the ships in question

[steady beacon]

As long as all are same affinity state vs medium, Champ gun Vanguard, Flan gun Alsace, Soyuz gun Bismarck gets the order right from second rotation onwards (if your BB RLD is low enough, possibly can even get Alsace in front for first rotation)
I still haven't determined if I like this vs heavy or not
Make sure Alsace is in the top position (this is more to evade any possibility of small timing differences messing anything up)

[south sequoia]

Eh? positions also affect timing?

[steady beacon]

By a hilariously tiny margin yes
But it has proven enough to mess shit up

(When Alsace is involved, at least)

[patent pivot]

if you tag out hinde for uzi vs heavy you can swap BiZ for mash which might be more, then you gotta do more timing kurfuffery

[steady beacon]

Worries for another time

[inland shoal]

[tulip otter]

whats the flandre gun again

[patent pivot]

or you run triple 457 with mash and say fuck triples

[steady beacon]

/wiki Triple 380mm Mle 1935

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_380mm_(Mle_1935_Prototype)

[cunning bison]

uh

[strange sphinx]

so

Constellation need to be On flag or off flag?

[atomic abyss]

Not a good idea
You generally never use triple BB fleets outside opsi bosses
And you'd cater your BB gearing for the individual bosses anwyays

[cunning bison]

general purpose, i hate changing stuff and only 2 battleships

[keen sable]

I want 4.
I need 16. One for each Iowa and it's fleet power dupe.

[steady beacon]

I very much like this idea tbh
Sorely tempted
Esp because of my early runs with Georgia gun this month...
Idk how fair it makes the tests though...

[atomic abyss]

Then just slap 2 NJ guns and call it a day

[patent pivot]

My only qualm with triple 457 is vang gonna desync pretty fast

[cunning bison]

is yktw ii/nj/alsace good choice for a bossing fleet in campaign/event good or is vanguard/imp/alsace bttr?

[atomic abyss]

Implacable shines more in bosses with her slow so

[cunning bison]

so vanguard/imp/alsace? alr ty

[mighty bolt]

anyone else getting a "bug" where the fuel you get/buy through the mail/events doesn't get added to your total fuel?

[patent pivot]

Issue with comparing twins to triples is that who is better entirely depends on the timer, unless somehow a twin comp can do more dmg/salvo than a triple so it would never really be fair to compare them

[wind hazel]

check mail storage

or are you saying it doesn't get added to that storage?

[tiny scaffold]

If i feel like i have enough gear blueprints from pr4 which priority should I switch my research focus to

[steady beacon]

Ye that's the issue
Gonna have to think this month's tests through with some care...

[uncut creek]

for the missions where you need to defeat the b3/d3 boss with X ship, do they need to live?

[mighty bolt]

OHHH, the new system threw me off big time

tyty

[patent pivot]

There is 3 sets of comps, you see based on fight time and your rld how many salvos you get, then pick the one with the highest salvo count favoring higher up on the list if there's a tie. The fairest way would just be to test all 3 and report numbers for all comps and say the dmg delta between it and the one above/below

1. Triple with double shell
2. Triple with HPFCR
3. Twin
   4. Twin with HPFCR

[atomic abyss]

for the UR vouchers? nope

[strange sphinx]

though I have tamaki, should I keep amagi, constellation or should I buil tamaki?

[inland shoal]

I believe Constellation is the strongest out of the 3, not sure on Tamaki vs Cons tho

[atomic abyss]

the fact that con has fleet tech

[inland shoal]

Isn't it BC Eva?

[steady beacon]

Ye

Hmmmmm, I'll put in a good word for Tamaki
She's bloody good
But if Stella is MLB and Tamaki is not, just use her

[sullen creek]

Didn't you test Tamaki already

[strange sphinx]

wait stella?

[atomic abyss]

conSTELLAtion

[inland shoal]

Con stella tion

[jaunty vault]

why would you believe in something youre not sure about

[strange sphinx]

gomen

I only know arash stella

[inland shoal]

That is how believing works

[jaunty vault]

no it doesn't but im not here to discuss philosophy so ill stop here

[steady beacon]

... I'm not gonna get in trouble over that nickname right
Unlike Indy...
Stella IS her canonical nickname isn't it 👀

[cobalt rapids]

people dont get in trouble for calling sushi mash, ure def safe

[inland shoal]

Yes Stella is commonly used for her
Though I forgot that until you said it

[inland shoal]

But that is mashiron 😔

[cobalt rapids]

i know 😔

[steady beacon]

... Do you have calcs for double shell vs Hermit?
Because, sorry to say, you're gonna have to pry my radars from my cold dead hands (twin or triple)

[patent pivot]

Probably buried in my stack of data, I'll just run new ones

Also who the fuck is hermit

[steady beacon]

... This month's Arbiter?
I'm not supposed to be doing GB am I?

[patent pivot]

Oh, I just know them as l/m/h harby

Gimme comp and any extra assumptions and I'll run em here

[rich valve]

is there a guide/command for w13 hard?

my aquila sometimes die in 13-4 hard

[eager mulch]

the W13 hard guide is called the W15 guide

[rich valve]

with bisz/aql/kear anchor/ply/laffii

[frank pulsar]

not enough aa, drop kear/zwei for another cv and drop ancho/ply for another aa ship

[rare juniper]

Started playing again after a while.

I was wondering if I should go for alsace or the limited build? The limited build wasn't a thing when I played, is it temporary or I can just ignore it for now?

Here's my UR ships in case I'm missing an important one

*I have more than 400 cubes

[steady beacon]

Def try for Alsace first

[cobalt rapids]

boss?

[dawn hamlet]

how long does it take for a ship to get a wedding outfit? (if we assume she's popular)

[steady beacon]

The limited build/wishing well only contains perma ships
But missing Alsace will mean at least a two year wait to try for her again

[steady beacon]

Literally random lol
To this day, I don't think anyone knows by what process ships get oath skins

[atomic abyss]

we did know

[dawn hamlet]

oh

[rich valve]

switching out kear for yorkii and ply for shimanto seems to work

[steady beacon]

We did 👀

[atomic abyss]

In the early days

the first 6 or so were the winners of popularity polls

and that was the case for the next few popularity polls too

that's how stuff like eugen, enterprise, takao and hood all got theirs

everything else tho

[gentle gale]

Doez mog's skill mgm cast count to her AoA trigger?

[grizzled creek]

Does anyone have the game loaded who can help me w something? Wondering the level for Hard mode chapter 6 & 7

Unless they're ez compared to D3 of the event, lookin for something slightly easier

[atomic abyss]

(it's on the wiki)

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_6
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_7

[sweet merlin]

are the new gear lab eqips good?

[atomic abyss]

only the gold single 113 is notable
as a very expensive 76mm that is ever so slightly slower with more range

and +13-able

[whole crypt]

and probably not actually more useful than 76mm if your name is not Scylla

[wispy pendant]

What is top opsi ur BB fleet now? Is it bis2 Alsace, soyuz, or bis2 Alsace, vanguard? Is Musashi in it still?

[grizzled creek]

If my ships are higher level then the fleet n boss it should be easy right ?

[steady beacon]

Fortune META says hi

[elfin hollow]

Bis2, Alsace and Vanguard

[wispy pendant]

Ha, I’m having trouble figuring who stays in my 4th fleet for cross fleet. Musashi NJ and uvh? Soyuz not have a spot?

I guess I could put UVH in mob fleet for end of month mobbing along with independence

[steady beacon]

Def create space in the mob fleet if you can

[wispy pendant]

Needs 5th fleet now.

[steady beacon]

All the rainbow BBs can mob perfectly well, so might as well put someone there

[grizzled creek]

This should be easy right ? Or should I do chapter 7 hard instead

Chapter 9 hard seems like it would probably be annoying not sure tho

[hollow gust]

that clears till w13, if u lose then thats some massive skill issue

[stark quiver]

if u die below w13, then gear issue

[wispy pendant]

You only do hard 3 times a day. But that fleet should be able to do normal 9-w12 mobs

[grizzled creek]

So it should clear hard 9 even ? As is I mean

[inner delta]

[novel condor]

[steady beacon]

Assuming the gear isn't an utter disaster, should be fine, in principle
(Idk how OoA vs a boss goes, if that is relevant, though...)

[grizzled creek]

Oh my gears definitely a mess lmao , someone sent a reference but I'm missing a lot still very unlucky

I think they're "Ok" maybe

But I mean what can I rlly do I haven't even been playing a month left so can't rlly be expected to have the best gear

[steady beacon]

Doesn't have to be best
Just workable, at least

[grizzled creek]

They might be idk tho

[steady beacon]

Well, if you're worried, start a thread and let us take a look
If you've been guided in here before, though, I'm guessing it can't be catastrophically bad, at least

[grizzled creek]

Idk how to start one of those lol

Thx

[uncut oar]

uhhhh remind me what good is spearfish again

[eternal basalt]

It's a good bragging tool

[uncut oar]

actually though, is there any timeline where you make a spearfish over a wyvern?

[eager mulch]

best rocket tb

[jaunty vault]

it may or may not be better than wyvee

[steady beacon]

I'm at least not sure about "make" (unless you already have some Wyverns already)
But "use", I'd probably say Spearfish has its use cases

[uncut oar]

I do have some Wyverns already

[jaunty vault]

theres conflicting opinions among people that have used both of them in later chapters

[cobalt rapids]

worst rocket tb

[jaunty vault]

most expensive too

[eager mulch]

least expensive too

[uncut oar]

yeah I can imagine, I guess the use case for spearfish is "I need AoE/am mobbing, but need to snipe chibis too kinda but not really"

[eager mulch]

I liked spearfishes over wyverns in W15

[jaunty vault]

[eternal basalt]

You'd think intercept is key in w15

[uncut oar]

which means two things: W14/15, or stronghold solo without a fleet good enough to just kinda walk over it which is funny, because by the time you have a spearfish or two to spend on opsi mobbing, you definitely have a fleet that walks all over strongholds

(at least, with what I can remember.)

[eternal basalt]

Wednesday

[keen sable]

I could see the math being there are 9 intercepting fighter slots(say uniquila+support) * 2 + 5 airstrike slots for 23 interceptor waves. 2-4 waves of wyvern interceptors doesn't change the math much.

[whole crypt]

wyverns are fine until you can get spearfish, the improvement isn't huge for the cost it takes

buf it you can afford them I'd take spearfish

[inner delta]

spearfish believer

[topaz smelt]

Tfw you read chat and it's a repeat of everything I've said 4 months ago

[warm cliff]

How does the Alsace compare to the other UR BB’s?

[frank pulsar]

shes amongst the best

[warm cliff]

Is she the level as Bismarck Zwei or Soyuz?

[atomic abyss]

while she wouldn't replace bis zwei
yeah, that level

[warm cliff]

Ok thanks

[jaunty vault]

UR BBs are the best

saying amongst the best doesn't say much

[steady beacon]

First among equals

[winter condor]

the real question is she can nuke like musashi?

[atomic abyss]

their damage is roughly the same for the average campaign/opsi boss battle

they do have preference for different armour types tho

[winter condor]

the boss nuke team are always musashi

[atomic abyss]

musashi could already be displaced by soyuz against certain bosses so

thats not saying much

[frank pulsar]

^^^ sushi is bis bb only on heavy now for bossing

[atomic abyss]

if anything, we are seeing the transition of musashi to end game mob fleets
although she's perfectly fine on bosses

[warm cliff]

Is Alsace better in boss or mob fleet?

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmm... where did you get the idea that only Musashi can nuke though
Pretty much ALL the UR BBs can nuke just as well, or potentially better

[topaz smelt]

just wait for jp anniv for a real nuke

[atomic abyss]

honestly, it depends on what you have and what content we talking about here

[steady beacon]

If you have doubts, soup, please lay them out rather than use an ambiguous emote...

[atomic abyss]

like

[steady beacon]

The thing that nukes the game?

[atomic abyss]

while preloads shine on mobbing more, there is the issue of uni kai

[topaz smelt]

Not really

[atomic abyss]

preload overlap

i mean you would use musashi in w15 anyways

[novel condor]

whats the max amount of strongholds can appear on the OPSI map?

[warm cliff]

It’s been a month since I’ve played, currently in w10… I currently only have 3UR bullins. Fleet 1 is boss

[atomic abyss]

then you don't use alsace or shinano, because you can't mlb them yet

wait till you get 4

[tame fog]

Anything note worthy of this dd gun?

[topaz smelt]

Not really

[atomic abyss]

it's a very expensive sidegrade to the blue 76

[warm cliff]

Ok, once I get 4 should I put Alsace in mob or boss?

[atomic abyss]

alsace for mob, soyuz for boss imo

[warm cliff]

Ahh ok thanks

[calm panther]

the HE rainbow BB gun in gear lab is top priority?

[steady beacon]

Iirc three at a time max
But they can also be "stored" so you don't lose them even if you don't do your three before Monday rolls around

[atomic abyss]

that is correct

[topaz smelt]

You prob should be pushing to w12 instead of raising more ships

[atomic abyss]

lol no

457 is higher priority for BB guns still

[calm panther]

I remember people telling me to stick with champys for syncing

[viscid swift]

the 457 and Champaign gun have different purposes

[glass quest]

lol is it normal that I haven‘t got a single blueprints research for one pr/dr ship (e.g. Plymouth) within the last 44 researches? I counted that shii

[calm panther]

I have 0 triple 406 mk7 if that make any difference

[hardy skiff]

How good is the new geqr lab DD gun?

[atomic abyss]

did you set your research focus to PR5

[viscid swift]

it does not

[atomic abyss]

it's a very expensive sidegrade to the blue 76

[viscid swift]

RNG is RNG

[glass quest]

I did but I only get Rigging or Cube Analysis or Commission

[calm panther]

so get how many 457 before getting mk7s?

[hardy skiff]

So basically good to craft one if you can spare the mats, fair enough

[hollow gust]

thats some really unlikely rng

[worldly pewter]

i think since the mk7 uses 0.75 UR ordnance it is better to compare it with a wyvern right ?

[glass quest]

RNG is unfair istg

[tame fog]

Gold route is better than the purple route for mk7 right?

[hollow gust]

what researches are you picking??

[glass quest]

Anyways, is Mogador for mobbing or bossing?

[atomic abyss]

if you mlb her already, most likely mob

[hardy skiff]

I guess Scylla is probably one of the biggest winners since her gun main gun dmg doesn't suck but she preferred blue 76 because her barrages are where most of her dmg came from

[hollow gust]

44 researches in a row without a single ply prints seems impossible

[atomic abyss]

she is probably the only winner...

[glass quest]

apparently not

[hollow gust]

.

[atomic abyss]

i got a feeling it might be poor research choices

[glass quest]

I usually just pick the one that takes the least amount of time if there isn‘t any

[topaz smelt]

Sounds wrong

[hollow gust]

even at my worst i was still getting 4-6 prints

[glass quest]

1h Rigging Analysis mostly

[atomic abyss]

...

rigging analysis are only good for giving equip BPs...

[hardy skiff]

Well it has better range than blue 76 so it probably shoots more and is a good deal faster than the single 120mm so possibly an upgrade to any blue 76 user

A marginal one ofc

[glass quest]

yes, but I mean I dont get these kind of researches. Am I doing something wrong?

[worldly pewter]

they only share 0.75 UR ordnance and 20 electronics between them which make them not a good comparison subject
u can get them simultaneously
the issue is with the wyvern and mk7

[atomic abyss]

i mean... again did you set it to the right series

[calm panther]

I guess then the question is how many wyverns before mk7?

[topaz smelt]

Mk7 is def lower prio

[calm panther]

oh yeah I figured as much wyverns are higher priority because they're op

[glass quest]

Yeah, but I dont get any of those character researches at all

[atomic abyss]

then that's just bad luck

idk what to tell you

[hollow gust]

character research ->grant donation -> rigging

[wispy pendant]

which ijn vanguard wants the new AA gun?

[glass quest]

so I‘m not doing anything wrong at least? I‘ve got it set on PR5

[calm panther]

I have 3 wyverns already that should be enough right?

[wispy pendant]

it's not actually a great AA gun, is it? more like a FP buff gun, right?

[topaz smelt]

It's shit

[worldly pewter]

yeah it is a good point to start investing into mk7

[hardy skiff]

I feel any new player just get at least 2 Wyverns before even contemplating on getting a mk7

[topaz smelt]

You want at least 1 wyv

[wispy pendant]

worse than the RN gun?

[viscid swift]

to break even an IJN vanguard needs at least 300 FP

[topaz smelt]

The major upside to mk7 is it costs little electronics

But it's also a gun where you don't use often

[hollow gust]

you only need 1 for keary

[topaz smelt]

I don't think I've ever used it on kear

[hollow gust]

it syncs well enough with yorktown for light, and thats all i used mk7 for

[wispy pendant]

oh wow, and that's just the 5% buff... that puts it in perspective. lame

[topaz smelt]

I'm on 2bb fleets

[hollow gust]

🤢

[wispy pendant]

For opsi, with one BB fleet, one Cross fleet, I'm not sure I even have room for all the UR BB anymore.

[topaz smelt]

CVs are weak on 0 adapt

[hollow gust]

i have been sauperlazy so harby is usually later in the month

[topaz smelt]

I'm still at min adapt end of month

[novel condor]

icic ty phil

[wispy pendant]

If you just auto clear explorable zones, you get good adapts over the course of the month.

[inner delta]

rice just weird and likes 0 adapt gaming

[novel condor]

||rice likes limit testing||

[topaz smelt]

No Im just lazy in opsi to get adapts

[sleek spade]

Is the new ijn AA good on unzen?

Or not worth it?

[atomic abyss]

not worth

[sleek spade]

Awww

[tired condor]

drake any good?

[hollow gust]

Stella

[atomic abyss]

good but outclassed

[soft raft]

She's been powercrept hard in terms of both damage and bulk but she's still better than a majority of SR CAs

[stone sluice]

Is it worth the investment?

[atomic abyss]

not for the average player

[topaz smelt]

Generally if it costs electronics and not on the recommended list, it's not worth

[coarse berry]

Hey guys, which gear should i use on Alsace ?

[atomic abyss]

the standard BB gear
triple 406mk6
gold triple 155/152
STAAG bofors
white and black shells

[atomic abyss]

not for the average player

[coarse berry]

Thx

[tulip hollow]

should i craft a 2nd mk7? like how useful is it

[atomic abyss]

somewhat useful, but given that BB HE guns are seeing less use...
competes with mats for wyverns

[novel condor]

but what if u have 3 wyverns alrdy

[tulip hollow]

i have like 6 wyverns swapping is annoying

i crafted couple 457s and since mk7 shares same prints with that UR dd gun i dunno which one i should craft

[zinc turret]

wuuuut , did manual controlling give u more damage ?

[whole crypt]

not if you miss

[novel condor]

that basically ^

[zinc turret]

but he said manual give 20% extra damage

[tulip hollow]

i don't do manual so don't see myself miss

[whole crypt]

the first set of rounds of a BB salvo will hit for more damage if it's aimed manually

note it's only the first set of rounds and it needs to hit