gameplay-help

[topaz smelt]

im eating and packing for a fishing trip so not really paying attention

[inner delta]

100 feel expensive for prolly worse than 76 for kaza

[topaz smelt]

esp in 14, 100k wont do much

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message Riceist cooked up something for you if you didn't see it yet

[inner delta]

Yea i just used it because im lazy to change gear but it still fc lethal so w.e ig

[topaz smelt]

i kinda want to find a replacement for ply and brest

[inner delta]

Sandy prolly can replace ply

[idle dirge]

Ah, i already saw it thanks for helping 👍

[topaz smelt]

ive tried that before, you get clapped even harder by bbs

[inner delta]

Brest can uh idk cant think of any of her role

Harbin then maybe?

[topaz smelt]

ive tried harb + anch but it really wildly inconsistent

[inner delta]

You still have the smoke for frontline and torp do good for bb

[idle dirge]

I didn't invest on Plymouth yet anyone else?

[half plover]

why is this top prio if it costs cubes?

[inner delta]

Yea im thinking about the replacement

[remote yarrow]

Cuz it's short and also gives a good amount of BPs, just get it

[topaz smelt]

its the most time efficient

[inner delta]

Wait rice just rikka it then?

[half plover]

nice ty

[inner delta]

Wait shes limited nvm

[topaz smelt]

i doubt most ppl have rikka

[remote yarrow]

I don't

[topaz smelt]

i think mint might work

[inner delta]

Then like wtf dude searching for ply replacement is hard hm

[idle dirge]

The collab rikka?

[inner delta]

Jintsu? You have to try it since i dont have her raise

Skill lv 10 all but only lv 100

[whole crypt]

it drops a good amount of ship and gear print
but given that you're short on coin and not that great with cubes I won't call it top priority

[inner delta]

Yea

[half plover]

I destroyed my economy but I got the last ship from the event yesterday so it should be no problem anymore

[whole crypt]

it might save you like maybe 1-2 days of research otherwise but I doubt that's a high priority for you

[idle dirge]

Yeh I do have her, basically i have all ships on the first gridman collab but not the second time

[whole crypt]

for Hakuryuu it's like maybe 4-5 prints out of the 700+ you'll need in total

[inner delta]

Then she should be able to replace ply

[topaz smelt]

i think its closer to saving 5-8 hrs

[inner delta]

But ill need to think other option for non limited still

[topaz smelt]

i never used rikka as a dps option

[idle dirge]

Wait only herself? I thought she need to pair with some collab ships?

[remote yarrow]

Oh man I can't wait to get yelled at when I ask for help for 14-3 and 14-4 after this event

[inner delta]

I used her and shes great

[whole crypt]

yeh well a single UL not saving a significant amount of time across your entire PR schedule

[topaz smelt]

i had her as tank, support, asw box

[inner delta]

Yea

Her dps isnt bad

So she prolly can help with that and asw

Like the option for replacing the best cl dps is pre hard

[idle dirge]

Should i put on all her collab gear or just use the asw?

[inner delta]

Use her gear ofc and 1 aux for asw

[topaz smelt]

its not bad but i dont think its enough

plys job was taking out the random prods

[inner delta]

Yea but then what the option, changing it for meta ship is also hard because people dont go out their way to raise their skill

[topaz smelt]

itll def make the fc less consistent but idk much alternatives

[inner delta]

Exactly

[idle dirge]

What's ply good for?

[inner delta]

If smth goes wrong just reset the battle

Dps and she give buff for fdg

[topaz smelt]

was it scylla that i tried?

[inner delta]

Her dpd is massive

Idk, havent tried her

[topaz smelt]

ik i restricted the fleet to 1 dd cuz speed fucks with asw

[whole crypt]

Scylla supposedly is good damage but if compare with Plymouth does bulk hold up?

[crimson glacier]

whats ply not good for

dps, tankiness, support, consistency

[inner delta]

Prolly not lmao but theres like no other ply alternative

She just does them all

[crimson glacier]

ply has everything

[topaz smelt]

atleast perma ones anyways

[whole crypt]

yeh Plymouth just does everything

[idle dirge]

Okay I'm gonna invest on her next then

[topaz smelt]

you can still easily normal clear with that fleet without ply

[inner delta]

You can try running rikka first ig if you want to finish 14

But like i said above if something goes wrong, reset the battle

[strange sphinx]

ahm yeah, I don't have the exchange opsi... do I need to push the opsi story or the main story?

[whole crypt]

yes OS story

[crimson glacier]

campaign doesnt matter for opsi progress, only opsi story does

[inner delta]

Actually most people dont do fc lethal anyway so the other option should hold up just finely

[whole crypt]

once you clear OS ch4 you'll get a countdown here

[inner delta]

No need ply

[topaz smelt]

that is not a very descriptive image

[whole crypt]

well that's just the corner where it shows, from his screenshot

[remote yarrow]

needs more arrows and circles

[late flame]

oops forgot arrow

[strange sphinx]

still in chapter 2

might rush with fleet 2

[novel condor]

should be fine, I haven't made my 14 4 safe yet

[normal crane]

What gear to craft on gearlab? Like a must have

[sweet delta]

Wyvern

[topaz smelt]

A few wyvs and 457 are recommended

[normal crane]

What about the first priority to craft?

[inner delta]

Wyvern

[normal crane]

Fair

[digital yew]

Can I have the same ship Ina fleet twice?

[jaunty vault]

not in the same fleet

in opsi, not in any other fleet either

[digital yew]

What about in another feelt both used on the same map?

Like 2 fleets are allowed on most maps so what about having 1 on each

[steady beacon]

You can

[topaz smelt]

No reason to tho

[digital yew]

Ok one more question I have a max shinano but now I have one more shinano what to do with extra?

[topaz smelt]

Scrap

[digital yew]

💀

Nothing else possible?

[topaz smelt]

Skin box

[digital yew]

?

[topaz smelt]

Secretary for skins

[normal crane]

So I should use firecrest in the meantime?

[topaz smelt]

You could

[kind slate]

I have enough pr6 prints to get either shimanto or harbin to dev30. Which serves me better?

I haven’t finished anyone else from pr5/6

[steady beacon]

Prob needs more info on what else you have available
Although, in principle, I'd probably only spend PR6 prints on PR6

[kind slate]

These. Which do you think I should get?

[steady beacon]

They both already have all their missions completed ye?
I'd probably go Shimanto
But you can plausibly go the other way

[kind slate]

I have a bit more exp to do for harbin. But shimanto already dev13.

[steady beacon]

Oh OK, if you already have her, then Dev her

[jaunty hearth]

Is supposed to cost 300 the Dock space?

[rose cosmos]

Is nelson worth investing into?

[steady beacon]

I think the cost increases if you go past a certain number of dock spaces
but iirc it's a gigantic number far exceeding no. of unique ships in the game

[sharp socket]

after 1k dockspace i think price increase

[atomic abyss]

for a new player, yes she is worth cos of her retro
ultimately hood is a cheaper investment tho

[steady beacon]

Depends on what other options you have, but early on and in lieu of other ships, retrofitted Nelson is a solid ship to use

[rose cosmos]

Oh damn lol, I basically retired a bunch of her thinking she wasn’t worth the troubles

[lucid crest]

what top BBs are best for mobbing and best for bosses?
Except for FdG and Kearsarge because I don't have them

[half plover]

joining that question would alsace be a bossing bb?

[novel condor]

Alsace still not sure, people still testing with her

[half plover]

from my experience Nelson is a great bossing ship and hood a great mobbing bb for the beginning

for FdG grind I swapped the mobbing BB to bismarck for tech exp

and kept nelson in my boss fleet

[atomic abyss]

the tldr is all the UR BBs can work for either

[steady beacon]

Alsace can boss, to be clear
Our question right now is more when does she take the fleet spot over the others

[novel condor]

except warspite

[atomic abyss]

warspite and NJ are better for bosses ye...

[half plover]

this main fleet feels like a dream rn for bossing, but once my volga and enty hit lvl 120 I will cry in pain

[lucid crest]

Then I guess the question ends up on the gun

[atomic abyss]

but you wouldn't use either with all other URs available anyways

gun and fleet and content

[lucid crest]

hats off to you fellow Ichika enjoyer

Ulrich feels like a mob BB for her fast reload imo

[atomic abyss]

yeah that argument can definitely be made
the issue is that the actually difficult content in AL requires only 1 BB

[elfin hollow]

Got the os shop unlocked albeit a bit late now im confused as to where you get the shop vouchers from

[pale plinth]

Ulrich is great except for needing to run her off flag and I hate running more than 1 BB in a mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

and usually, musashi is picked for that 1 slot, cos of her sheer bulk and other support skills

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Reset

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately, shop vouchers are what left over resources are converted into after a monthly reset soo

you will have none for the entire month

[novel condor]

was bout to correct this b4 u did it yourself kek

[lucid crest]

btw, Laffey II, Guam, Mogador, Alsace
what's the priority to MBL?

[late flame]

alsace

[atomic abyss]

alsace

[novel condor]

alsaucy

[atomic abyss]

unless you have like literally every other UR BB mlb

[polar venture]

I want to use brennus. Is she good?

[novel condor]

shes aight at best

[atomic abyss]

she's good but nothing special

[late flame]

fancy cool swords but in reality just portland with more steps i guess

[lucid crest]

I have all but FdG and Kear

[atomic abyss]

at mlb?

[lucid crest]

aye

[whole crypt]

then I'd shoot for either Laffey or Guam

[atomic abyss]

^

[lucid crest]

[jade ibex]

is shimanto gun better than ply for shimanto?

[atomic abyss]

nope

[jade ibex]

even in high aa demand?

[atomic abyss]

it doesn't help her aa prowess much (more than it already is)

better off shooting for more damage

[cloud fractal]

Whoops. I neglected to choose a potential 3rd for the vanguard in my second fleet.

Everything I’ve been leveling is main fleet…

[hard mesa]

+ghost aa from shimanto gun are really slow

[whole crypt]

that's less of a problem using on Shimanto herself, but you just want more juice out of her than stacking further AA generally

[jade ibex]

any other good candidate for ply gun besides plymouth?

[steady beacon]

Oh huh
The Shimanto gun limit on special AA is per ship, as opposed to the vague phrasing of it in the game itself

[whole crypt]

Shimanto

[atomic abyss]

basically any DPS CL that can't use DD guns

[whole crypt]

or Helena, or your UR BB

[steady beacon]

It's just the generally best CL gun, so any CL who doesn't equip DD mains would like to carry it

Gdi, Ender...

[jade ibex]

btw for harbin, ur dd gun or twin 128

[whole crypt]

was using rainbow duck on her until I dropped her

[south sequoia]

twin 128

[silver lintel]

Does harbin deal more dmg than the ddg?

[whole crypt]

napkin math I did last week says harbin squeezes more out of guns than DDGs do

actually not sure about Tai Yuan, I was basing on An Shan

[inner delta]

Harbin go for 138

[half plover]

what was your first gun/gear you crafted with opsi mats?

[whole crypt]

probably twin 128 if gun

[jade ibex]

flapjacks

[whole crypt]

otherwise think the first thing I crafted was Junkers D-4

[steady beacon]

Same, pre sure

[half plover]

oh the d-4 might be good on AvP according to the tierlist

[whole crypt]

it is

[half plover]

but I dont know how it works that it can activate skills and on which cvs it is good on

[steady beacon]

D4 is just a converging torpedo bomber, you can use it on anyone for bossing, provided you have movement impediment support

Your choice between the three converging TBs is informed by a number of factors, but an important one is timing everyone closely for a good sync

[plain saffron]

Is there a bug with foch meta?

[late flame]

is anyone using foch meta?

[whole crypt]

the main thing is AvP just wants a KMS plane, and the selection of fighters/DBs aren't great

[half plover]

oh I see

[plain saffron]

Idk but that doesn't answer my question

[steady beacon]

I can try her out if you can tell me what to look for

[half plover]

but it will still take a while until my avp is done 😭 I just got some bps because I accidentally catch upped her first

and switched to anch later

[fiery swan]

If I have most of the ships from the ticket at MLB and I have a spare Tashkent copy, do I just exchange for Tashkent and MLB her

[plain saffron]

I haven't look into it but someone said it make game infinite load or something

[steady beacon]

Sure, might as well if you don't need any of the other ships in the ticket

[whole crypt]

don't see any threads about it on nga

[late flame]

i have her in my fleet and so far no such issues

[plain saffron]

Try making her dead

I guess I'll play around with it myself, time to open game in 3 days 👴

[boreal wagon]

i believe she only breaks in opsi when she has toll of war

because her counter of the 2nd skill doesn't work as its supposed to

[plain saffron]

Ouh

[boreal wagon]

i havent actually verified it but thats basically the only thing that should be able to break

[plain saffron]

Is there new patch this past few days

[boreal wagon]

i think there was a minor one but idk if that was after ur latest batch or before

[plain saffron]

I should rent a windows server

[boreal wagon]

should be after ur latest batch tho bc they fixed exp books somewhere

[whole crypt]

looks like Bearn META good speed option for OS mob

[late flame]

she's fun to use
but then again my opsi mob is all preloaded strikes lol (uni/aquila/chise)

[whole crypt]

they're throwing her in with Formidable Muse, I'm guessing with preload

full preload is just bombing water so it's looking for preloads + fast load to stagger

[half plover]

so it is worth leveling up bearn meta to 120

[whole crypt]

up to you, this is just speed tactics for people who bother squeezing their OS time

[half plover]

yeah I planned on mlbing and using her anyway

[late flame]

her pre-evaluation is up #event-faq i'd say she's worth taking to 120

[vestal thistle]

What to use this for

[tame jungle]

CA’s, CL’s and CB’s mostly

[jaunty vault]

survival aux for cruisers

[vestal thistle]

Build it?

[tame jungle]

Yeah

[jaunty vault]

CL/CA/CB

everyone wants it

[south sequoia]

You are pretty much gonna slap it on most of the cruisers you use

[jaunty vault]

its bis for most content

[south sequoia]

Some dds might use it, but it's only a few
most of the dds will want double hp

[vestal thistle]

Which one

[half plover]

is this useful?

[south sequoia]

carl should take it, don't think of using kronshtadt right now

don't use mogador too

they aren't MLB

[vestal thistle]

Sadly I am using both

[south sequoia]

Then stop

[vestal thistle]

Can't

[south sequoia]

They're only dragging your fleet down since they lack stars

[tame jungle]

Portland time

[vestal thistle]

Use her

[south sequoia]

Do you have portland

[tame jungle]

:(

[vestal thistle]

Yes and I use her too

[jaunty vault]

how many UR bulins/ spec core do you have

[vestal thistle]

Spent them for the first UR lm3

[jaunty vault]

so how many do you have

[vestal thistle]

Blindfolded one

None now

[late flame]

the question is : how many UR bulin in your inventory now

[jaunty vault]

welp

[south sequoia]

How many stars is your alsace right now

she is the blindfolded lady

[vestal thistle]

Ik
Full

[half plover]

ooh seems like this might be my first gear too, the other ones dont have these blueprints and I think the golden bars are accessible in opsi

[south sequoia]

oh 6 stars? thats great to hear

[vestal thistle]

Yea

First time someone out dmg friedrick on short runs

[half plover]

is the fi 167 a fighter that can be dropped from boxes or do I need to build it too?

[south sequoia]

You can build it

[vestal thistle]

So I should put the gear on Frederick?

[south sequoia]

The wrench icon is showing up

[south sequoia]

Yep

[half plover]

ooh nice

[jaunty vault]

/wiki fi 167

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fieseler_Fi_167

[gloomy mesa]

who are the most worthwhile Retrofits?

like are there anymore portlands and unis out there?

[half plover]

unicorn, nelson and saratoga carrying

[whole crypt]

starter

[atomic abyss]

sandy

the chinese DDs

[whole crypt]

Sandy only for much later

[jaunty vault]

need to upcraft junkers from this which drops in T2/3 gear boxes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Heinkel_He_50b

[half plover]

yeah I got that blue ship and could craft the fi167!

time to grind 8 alloys

[gloomy mesa]

all done

[whole crypt]

what chapter are you at

[gloomy mesa]

who and is she like FINE?

[atomic abyss]

/wiki san diego

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/San_Diego
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/San_Diego/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/San_Diego/Gallery

Jun 2, 2024, 10:56 AM

[atomic abyss]

important but very expensive retro

[gloomy mesa]

w10 stoped pushing when event started

[whole crypt]

you have any of the An Shans?

[gloomy mesa]

why for way later?

[worldly pewter]

the first one that u should get it the wyvern

[gloomy mesa]

the what?

[atomic abyss]

she needs a retrofit item, that costs specialised cores

the same spec cores that are used for rainbow bulins

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Anshan_class

[half plover]

/wiki wyvern

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Westland_Wyvern

[whole crypt]

if you want to use bot yourself do it in #bot-spam
also it's not a hard search going to wiki yourself

[half plover]

oh yeah sry, I just wanted to test it out

[worldly pewter]

guys if the planes dont have coeff does it mean all of them start at 100% and end at 118% ?

[gloomy mesa]

i have chang chun

[whole crypt]

I'd retrofit her before San Diego

[boreal wagon]

planes have a coeff of 100% all the way effectively and instead scale armament damage up past +10

[whole crypt]

planes have no coeff, +11-13 they just get increased damage directly

[gloomy mesa]

she useful how

[whole crypt]

DPS

[gloomy mesa]

sweet

i'll lvl her aftre my graf spee is done helping me with roon

[worldly pewter]

which stat gets increased ?

[boreal wagon]

damage of each armament

[worldly pewter]

is the armament shown ingame ui ?

[hard mesa]

You can do the calc pretty much every bomb/trp/aa gun dmg increased by 18% at +13. Its just planes are more explicit than other gears

[boreal wagon]

that is not entirely true but a rough estimate nonetheless

[steady beacon]

Here, for example, compare +13 Wyvern vs +10 Wyvern

[gloomy mesa]

people, i still don't speak smiley yet

[worldly pewter]

so was i right to assume that the plane has 100% coeff and goes up to 118%

[boreal wagon]

they have no coeff, no, but they do go up roughly by 18%

[steady beacon]

Approximately 18% ye
Up to some rounding

[boreal wagon]

there is also just like with coeffs some exceptions where it might be more or less than 18%

[atomic abyss]

why would you level spee tho

[gloomy mesa]

for the exp mission on roon

didn't have a better option at hand

[forest palm]

most didn't

[tame orchid]

Is san francisco better than heinrich

[forest palm]

better damage, slightly better bulk, and more flexible

[tame orchid]

K thanks

Is mogador worth it now btw? Ur bulins i mean

[tame jungle]

Sure

[forest palm]

I mean she's UR Good now, but it depends on what you have

[sinful elk]

Does CVs count in Howe skill?

[tame jungle]

But depends on how tight you are on bulins

Why wouldn’t it

[tame orchid]

I have 6ur bulins now

[forest palm]

I meant what other UR you have

[tame orchid]

Kron

[novel condor]

only Kron?

[tame orchid]

Im new, lol

Havent gotten alsace yet 💀

[novel condor]

just checking

[tame orchid]

Np

[vestal thistle]

I pray you get her soon

She's nice

[whole crypt]

do you have another KGV class
if not do you have 2 other HMS ships

[pure geode]

you can still get her and when you do she'll have priority over mog

[tame jungle]

Do you think you’ll be able to get alsace? If so, save

[vestal thistle]

Also is mogador really getting speed restrictions removed from skill

[tame orchid]

Im at 150 pulls and zero cubes 💀

[forest palm]

honestly just wait just incase you do get Alsace, even then I'm iffy recommending to MLB Kron, or Mog

[vestal thistle]

You can do it

[tame jungle]

Ok that’s gonna be tight

[gloomy mesa]

so i'm tempted to build Colorado-kai because waifu, pleas tell me she has some value

[errant fog]

Sooo... I just updated my game.

Which batch should I click for the item and coins to be moved in storage?

[ocean pilot]

which one is better to buy first? UR voucher for 2nd mog or UR tix?

[tame jungle]

#event-faq

[sinful elk]

I don't have KGV class but i got hood, warspite kai and a bunch of cvs cvl

[whole crypt]

"2 other HMS ships"

[novel condor]

You can do it, still got some time

[tame orchid]

Gonna be so close to pity 💀

[vestal thistle]

If max lb alsace
Should I stop pulling?

[novel condor]

check pins

[whole crypt]

you should have stopped with your first copy

[sinful elk]

Okay

[vestal thistle]

I did
But 3 daily

[tame jungle]

Then you didn’t

[whole crypt]

3 daily is not needed
you could have gone back to 1 light daily

[boreal wagon]

3 daily pulls for event currency is not worth the investment of cubes lol

[gloomy mesa]

so it's "Fine" to build her, nice. The question is, where do I use the new waifu?

[pure geode]

3 daily doesn't give u much pts and definitely not worth the cubes if u already got alsac

[vestal thistle]

OK
Sad I didn't get the sr to lb

[whole crypt]

bulins exist

[tame jungle]

Again, bulins

[vestal thistle]

Ik got two botimor

[novel condor]

You can use her in any of your fleets really, up to you where you wanna use her

[gloomy mesa]

well i'm in w10 so i'm not exactly in need of that many fleets

[whole crypt]

you won't ever need more than 2 for campaign and 4 for OS

you'll have to decide whether to put the ships in or not

[gloomy mesa]

also, I'm currently using Uni-kai, Sara-kai, nelson-kai, hood, Enti, and Alsace. So I don't even know who to replace.

[whole crypt]

depends on the ship, some can still fit a role somewhere
otherwise you just fit them somewhere they don't die

[meager gyro]

is the battle pass worth it?

[atomic abyss]

if you want the skin sure

[steady beacon]

Attilio is worth it

[kind slate]

Is shimanto mainly bossing or mobbing? Also can she be used in most stages or only for aa intensive stages

[silver lintel]

Mainly for aa and burn reduction, and mobbing

[atomic abyss]

mobbing more
she can be used outside AA stages given her extraordinary dps
but there are better stuff for dps so

[silver lintel]

Would rather run harbin

[kind slate]

I don’t have harbin lol

[sacred anvil]

where you guys spend all your excess coins?

[silver lintel]

Can always buy cat boxes if u dont have anything else

[sacred anvil]

aah perfect thank you

nvm I have max catbox

[steady beacon]

Reset cats then

[sacred anvil]

ooh how reset?

[steady beacon]

Hit the reset button bottom left next to the use talent points
Although I would suggest reading this first https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide
To know what talents you should be aiming for, and which cats are worth resetting

[sacred anvil]

much thank

[ebon verge]

how many rainbow bullins do you get per month on average?

[silver lintel]

U get 4 every 2 months with cruise mission

[steady beacon]

1.5 from the specialised cores (since you can get max 6000 per month, and a rainbulin costs 4000)
Then... let's just say 0.5 per month from cruise pass (since you get 1 every two months)

Then the rest are just whenever a UR event runs or reruns

[rapid grail]

What armor does the EX boss have?

[tired condor]

where to post pulls

[plain saffron]

#trophy-room

[late flame]

#trophy-room

[open agate]

I got Alsace but I cant limit break

like i have 4 bullins, and shes lv 41

[plain saffron]

elaborate further, what's the mesage

[tired condor]

maybe u need level 70

[open agate]

found no ships matching your filter criteria

[plain saffron]

check if your bulins locked

[inland shoal]

Tap the 2 filters top right (Locked and Lv>1)

[plain saffron]

btw just in case you know UR ships needs UR bulins right

i think you just don't have UR bulins

[inland shoal]

Oh yeah those bulins won't work

[open agate]

any solutions?

[inland shoal]

Get UR bulins

[whole crypt]

get rainbow bulins

[plain saffron]

get a UR bulins

[open agate]

how, by pulling?

[steady beacon]

Heavy, I'm pretty sure

[inland shoal]

No, from specialised core and event milestone

It will take quite a while to get them

[keen sable]

show the screen with Auto-Deploy

[plain saffron]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#bulins

[open agate]

ow, thank god I asked here first before I limit break my bulin just to try💀💀💀💀💀

[finite crag]

you can try doing that

[plain saffron]

you can't LB a bulin even

[rapid grail]

thanks a lot, @steady beacon

[keen sable]

you can't. urins are maxed already

[open agate]

ok thanks

[vital meadow]

Can someone give me a gun set up for bearn meta

[late flame]

check #event-faq as to why you'd want to field planes instead of gun for bearn meta

[open agate]

best way to get specialized core?

[dull solstice]

Do combat efficiency consumable also increase combat xp gained or just the rewards gained?

[tired condor]

I shouldn't bulin new jersey right

since I'll probably get more copies from pity

[boreal wagon]

they double everything including the negatives - think of it as doing 2 runs

[open agate]

welp time to spend my other bulins cuz i have overpopulation

Who shall I do?

[dull solstice]

Okie thank you

[open agate]

unicorn? alrighty

wait i forgot my account isnt linked to Yorstar nor twt and fb
Im going to make Yorstar since I think it is the dev soooo ummmmm

Do I really have to put my actual name?

well my account isnt binded to any email stuff so if my phone gets bricked entire account is lost

[plain saffron]

anything should works, there's no filter, but i would put in real name incase you need to recover it

[keen sable]

not how yostar works...

[plain saffron]

isn't that the yostar new account system

the one that come with mandatory update

[keen sable]

oh

[open agate]

?????

[plain saffron]

some people are just confused because before it just put email and get verification code, now it's actual account

[open agate]

can I put my first name but not my full first name like keep my second name out? since it feels like some privacy issue thingy

[plain saffron]

up to you tbh, it's new so i can't say much

[keen sable]

#tech-support

[open agate]

ok

[plain saffron]

btw how you get to that page, from ingame bind options?

[open agate]

I play game in mobile, im in pc rn

i mean that is pc

[plain saffron]

nvm i take back everything
go bind from ingame

no need name etc, just email bind

[finite crag]

whats the best 3bb fleet rn

[frank pulsar]

zwei soyuz/sushi alsace

[open agate]

ok

[finite crag]

cool

[steady beacon]

Did Vanguard get the boot and nobody told me

[boreal wagon]

dont think so but its basically pick between VG and Soyuz

[patent pivot]

testing is still pending unless someone else has tested data alr

[open agate]

i dont have yorstar account tho

[hushed dawn]

What uh, site is this?

[plain saffron]

it just this

[open agate]

https://yostar.store/account/register

[plain saffron]

i know this is from login but it is SAME for new bind

[finite crag]

so sashi zwei soyuz

[open agate]

yorstar is the dev right?

[plain saffron]

publisher

[boreal wagon]

that page is only for store accounts, yostar doesnt have an actual account system for game binding (just emails)

[plain saffron]

just go in setting > select yostar > then it will show this

[plain saffron]

for AL

[boreal wagon]

p sure it works the same way for all their games

[patent pivot]

depends on armor of enemy and as i just said, testing is still ongoing to see if alsace goes in (or who she replaces)

[open agate]

can we go to #tech-support because I am already in conversation

[plain saffron]

bro just

[plain saffron]

not sure about mahjong soul but BA JP and AG use actual account
AK same as AL yeah

wait BA JP doesn't iirc

[boreal wagon]

AG also doesnt at least not global last time i checked

[plain saffron]

they both have account but not password login type of account

[finite crag]

right at this very moment, medium armor, no alsace

[plain saffron]

this thing is account system enough . used this screen bcs too lazy to censor my email in account detail page

[undone dagger]

[boreal wagon]

its probably still the same system under the hood tho just separated by game

[plain saffron]

fair enough i guess, since it's not like hoyo type of account system

[plain saffron]

why you here

[patent pivot]

this is the data i am collecting right now, TLDR: if you hate yourself (aka dont mind resetting) soy + BiZ + alsace appears to be better. if you want consistentcy at the price of very slightly less dmg then vang + BiZ + alsace is the choice. but once again this is still very early on, it also heavily depends on if you have the proper vanguard ships

[open agate]

ok account is binded thanks guys

[finite crag]

flangun?

[boreal wagon]

what does the number per run even represent

[jaunty vault]

tech support summoned her

[steady beacon]

Number of bars left

[boreal wagon]

that makes sense

[finite crag]

whats a flangun

[steady beacon]

/wiki Triple 380mm Mle 1935

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_380mm_(Mle_1935_Prototype)

[undone dagger]

because there is some irrelevant conversation happening right under my nose!

[plain saffron]

🏃‍♂️

[jaunty vault]

ban pls

[finite crag]

thats the hip and cool bb gun now?

[boreal wagon]

its used for timing adjustments

[steady beacon]

Idk if I'd call it "hip and cool"
It's neat for timing stuff

[finite crag]

cool

[tired condor]

so I shouldn't bulin new jersey right

[plain saffron]

depends

[tired condor]

on what

[plain saffron]

how many UR bulins you have, who else you have

[normal crane]

Which dd gun should I use for nj, vanguard and Alsace?

[steady beacon]

NJ Twin 137 (if you can afford it)
Vanguard and Alsace should carry CL secondaries under normal circumstances

[finite crag]

whats the meta vanguard for a 3bb med armor fleet

[steady beacon]

I personally still always go Agir + Ply
Your third can be up to you, I typically go Helena there, but you can put some kind of DPS like Hindenburg there also

[jaunty vault]

agir helena/hindenburg plymouth

[finite crag]

cool thanks

[steady beacon]

Mfw I sniped somebody for once

[patent pivot]

if you dont go gayir/hinde/ply then the backline probably changes

[main latch]

is san diego still good even if its not for AA

[normal crane]

I don't have any gold cl gun atm, what's the best one?

[boreal wagon]

isn't brest now also a valid option against single targets if you want 100% uptime on alsace debuff

[steady beacon]

... Crap, what is the generally accepted purple CL gun you use for interception these days?
I still use the HMS twin 152

[jaunty vault]

she is

[patent pivot]

testing still pending, but prelim testing shows no

[steady beacon]

Oh, what do you know, the HMS twin 152 👀

OK, use that one, then

[normal crane]

I only have these

[jaunty vault]

read the few messages above yours

[hollow gust]

Circled it too

[normal crane]

Thankies

[main latch]

is there a purple gear or something thats better than this ?

[steady beacon]

That's one of the standard gold CL guns used for BB secondaries
It'd be a bizarre circumstance for you to replace it with a purple gun

[meager gyro]

what do these things do?

[normal crane]

Like this?

[south sequoia]

They are points to be used for the border frame mission

If you are an early game player you can just ignore that

[meager gyro]

im lvl 88, should i worry?

[south sequoia]

it's an optional thing and only serves as flex rather than anything useful

No

It doesnt matter at all

Think of it as a trophy

[meager gyro]

should i give this mog once shes mlb?

need 3 more bulins

[golden moth]

Guys question..whats your opinion now on the current changes on mogador..

Is she now useful?on opsi hard contents pvp..and such..or only situational..or even viable to use..

Thanks for your insights

[zinc turret]

did mogador UR weapon good for alsace ?

[jaunty vault]

its wasted on her but yes, ita good

[zinc turret]

if it wasted should i use it for other ship ?

[jaunty vault]

use it on vanguards that can equip DD guns as their main guns

[novel condor]

Prob a gun boat DD would have better uses for it

[novel condor]

And this also

[zinc turret]

Hmmm starter ship ?

javelin

[atomic abyss]

Treat her as a gun focused shimakaze
Outside of w15 and hard hitting opsi bosses
She's not gonna die

As for her damage
CN says it's on par with Hinden for light armour so
Her tankiness is similar too

[zinc turret]

okay my javelin damage greatly increased with that weapon 🤣

[golden moth]

You mean by gun focused..like the UR gun on the event shop..not the blue one that shima uses..so not adviced using mogador on w15 and on hard hitting bosses opsi wise..hmm got it

[atomic abyss]

Yes, with say UR gun from the shop

[golden moth]

Is her dmg also comparable on plymmy..or only on hinden..

[golden moth]

Hmm so i could say i can use her situational..ig

[atomic abyss]

Same with Shima yes

[golden moth]

Hmm ok ok i see..does she has a pvp use potential tho..in your opinion

[weak quiver]

Can someone help me with EX mode?

Can't get any higher than 6112 points

[atomic abyss]

No
Absolutely not
She's no Laffey II

[golden moth]

Ohh i see..shima is also now situational in use..hmm got it

[golden moth]

I see thanks

[atomic abyss]

Shimakaze has always been situational

Especially cos Unzen is just a better Shima

[weak quiver]

Need to find ways to squeeze out more points

[calm ledge]

should i focus on getting the gear from event shop now that i've MLB'd bearn meta

[zinc turret]

yess

[novel condor]

yep

[zinc turret]

ur weapon op

[calm ledge]

ooh ok

how about the torps?

[worldly pewter]

the UR weapon should have been the first thing u get from the shop

[novel condor]

get also

[calm ledge]

maybe, but there's still time

[trail matrix]

Anyone got good equipment set up for Mogador? Like mid game equipment

[novel condor]

depends on your gear

[forest palm]

Standard affair is twin 130, quad mag, appropriate AA gun, 2x toolkit, if you wanna be fancy take the twin 138.6

[trail matrix]

Thx

[meager gyro]

idk what i did but im clearing a corrosion 7 zone without much trouble rn

[wary lake]

how to gain exp fro account level?

[forest palm]

using a full fleet, CMD XP is pretty straightforward

[keen sable]

Play the game

[versed elk]

imo she could be

no one really knows for sure with new mechanic like this.

[worldly pewter]

spend oil

[forest palm]

Mog's gimmick is...eh...interesting at best, I don't think it'll be game changing by any means, boiling it down Mog is a Gunboat, and that's really it

[fluid brook]

Shes a gunboat? Not Torp?

[inner delta]

mog is gun

[whole crypt]

which were the muse tag gears, only body and kicks?

[steady beacon]

Ye

[jaunty vault]

wdym muse tag

[inland shoal]

Gears that have the tag 'µ'

[jaunty vault]

explain to me as if I'm dumb
pls

[crimson pecan]

guys i can develop brest is she good or not?

[jaunty vault]

brest is one of the best tanks in the game

[crimson pecan]

i see

aight i will develop her

[boreal wagon]

if ship has gear ship considered muse

[whole crypt]

gear that makes ship consider muse for the muse skills

[flint hinge]

Where do i get the data keys from?

[whole crypt]

there's a claim button in the WA menu

[eternal basalt]

Waiting, you get 4 a day

[flint hinge]

Alright thanks

[jade ibex]

is there a list of which dd's gain 30% on aux?

[meager gyro]

are there any meta ships worth investing in?

[keen sable]

Tech is an investment so yes

[jade ibex]

anyone know where i can find such list?

[whole crypt]

Bearn META good

[jaunty vault]

thank you.. both

[meager gyro]

how do i get her?

[jade ibex]

he means that you invest on meta ships for fleet tech

[eternal basalt]

tech is fleettech, no ship

[jaunty vault]

id like to know this too, wiki is uhh too much effort

[meager gyro]

oh

[eternal basalt]

Someone made the list on wiki, dunno if kept up to date though

[boreal wagon]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/DDBuffs its very much outdated but it exists

[jaunty vault]

[stuck furnace]

100kai or new gun on poi

[jaunty vault]

lowkey wanna say 100kai

[forest palm]

is Yuudachi AoA depedent, if so 100 Kai

[nocturne estuary]

Obtain a total of X Weekly Activity Points.
what kind of activities are these? I'm 0/100 while having Week 1 already done

[jaunty vault]

[boreal wagon]

its refering to the weekly missions that start on mondays

[jaunty vault]

weekly missions from missions tab ye

[stuck furnace]

isnt she also mgm+1 tho

[jaunty vault]

she is

[whole crypt]

can't remember how good Yuudachi R's AOA is but her gun damage is substantial part of profile
problem being she squuezes less out of mog gun than mog and DDGs

[stuck furnace]

ic

[forest palm]

one could certainly test this

[stuck furnace]

ok so which ddg

[forest palm]

Tai, or An

[stuck furnace]

i feel like theres no dif

[whole crypt]

wasn't Tai Yuan's AoA stronger?

[kind needle]

Can someone help me fix my opsi fleet? I’mma create a thread shortly.

[jade ibex]

is fire suppresor a must on moga?

[meager gyro]

just found out you can go into opsi zones a second time

[steep merlin]

Trying to replace roon because she is useless and dies instantly, what ship should I raise to replace her?

[whole crypt]

what are you doing and what is the gear on Roon

the only thing I can see from that lineup that will survive better than Roon is Portland

[kind needle]

Well, that’s unexpected, roon dies easily?

[hollow gust]

If roon is dying then either she's not dev30/good level or your fleet sucks balls

[kind needle]

The roon is D30, full lb.

[steep merlin]

Yeah

[whole crypt]

I don't think he even bothered looking at the pics

but the point still stands, you don't have a better ship besides Portland

[crimson glacier]

gear and levels

[hollow gust]

I can't see pics rn , blame Canadian WiFi

[whole crypt]

the only reason Roon would vapourize in that is if gear is wrong and you went to do something way over your level

[steep merlin]

This

[kind needle]

Yep. It dies. No toolkit

[crimson glacier]

toolkit less important than eva

[whole crypt]

toolkit isn't the problem

he has an eva aux at least, so if Roon is being vapourized he's doing stuff that's way over Roon's level

[steep merlin]

I mean she doesnt die, but I feel like she is just weak compared to other options?... I thought avrora who I just got was better

[kind needle]

U don’t have the washing machine?

[steep merlin]

Yeah maybe lol

[whole crypt]

Avrora is weaker than Roon

[crimson glacier]

avrora has shit stats all around

[steep merlin]

Oh I see

Then am gonna keep on raising her level

[kind needle]

Avrora and roon are two ships that have different purposes.

[worldly pewter]

how much luck does she have ?

[whole crypt]

between 0 and 15

[steep merlin]

Uhm what why did it send like this lol

[jaunty vault]

im not touching that

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter

[steep merlin]

Idk what happened lol

I think I clicked something wrong, anyway

[whole crypt]

even if Roon was FS5 it's not going to save the level difference

[crimson glacier]

her fate isnt important anyway

[whole crypt]

but anyway you'll probably want to swap the FCR for another durability aux

and be at least par for the level of enemies you're fighting

[steep merlin]

What kind of durability aux are there? Toolkit?

[whole crypt]

a second evasion aux or a tookit

[kind needle]

What is the time that I leave PR4 focus? I’m still on PR4 Focus bcoz I need 2 tenrais (only have 1) and Haku FS5 probably. (Currently FS1)

[whole crypt]

you have camo there so a rudder can help

[viscid swift]

After both are done

[whole crypt]

when you finish FS and that 2nd Tenrai, and if Agir isn't done finish Agir too

[tranquil saffron]

What armour type is 13-4 boss?

[steep merlin]

Done

[whole crypt]

Taihou is heavy

[tranquil saffron]

Thanks

[kind needle]

Agir is alr D30, shall I go for her extra prints?

[whole crypt]

no, then just move on after you're done with tenrai and Hakuryuu

[kind needle]

Aight, thanks guys’

Shall I get the DD gun or Bearn meta first? Just got mogador

[whole crypt]

gun
grind D3 for Bearn META and save points in case you don't

[sacred silo]

Is prinz eugen u supposed to be a tank or offtank

[kind needle]

Oh, the muse one? No idea

[whole crypt]

tank

[sacred silo]

ik she has less hp than normal prinz but idk if it's a big enough change tk make her offtank

[whole crypt]

just don't expect her to tank high difficulty shit

[kind needle]

Is it normal that I only have one 457 bcoz of PR4 focus?
just curious.

[whole crypt]

457 is from PR2
you only get one from proto shop if you don't make any in lab, we don't really focus PR2 anymore

[keen sable]

you get one like every 6 months or something from ops

[viscid swift]

you can't even get PR2 researches unless you focus the season which you shouldn't

[jade ibex]

u can craft it on GL but prob better stuff to spend Ord on

[kind needle]

Is 457 irrelevant nowadays? Stacked up on champy gun

[novel condor]

Me with my half finished 2nd 457

[viscid swift]

if anything the 457 has become more relevant thanks to later campaign stages

[whole crypt]

457 is useful for lategame campaign

[novel condor]

Hmm time to return to pr2 gear farm

[whole crypt]

just make it in lab if you need it

it's not worth going back to PR2 unless you're like 2-3 prints short

[novel condor]

Uhhhh need like 22

[kind needle]

Who should I slap my first wyvern? UniKai, Indepkai, Ryuuhou, Percy or Volga?

[whole crypt]

then just forget it

[viscid swift]

I still wouldn't

[keen sable]

2-3 not 22

[novel condor]

Lmao aight ig gearlab it is

[whole crypt]

like a small handful you can cope with maybe 1-2 weeks of focusing PR2, any more you're just wasting time there

[novel condor]

Need a few more ordinance prints for those

[kind needle]

I got my 457 on gearlab, that’s pain for 3 months for the ord.

[whole crypt]

if you already have 1 from lab just wait for proto cores for the second copy

[jade ibex]

then get teh 2nd from core shop

[keen sable]

impaintence leads to inefficiency

[kind needle]

Is the gold quad mags just as good as the rainbow mags at gear lab?

[viscid swift]

they're sidegrades

[kind needle]

Planning to get a second one, but I need my first wyvern

[silver lintel]

Does mk7 cost ord or ur design?

[keen sable]

i would never craft with selectors

you can kind of do whatever you want with torps

[viscid swift]

we don't know

[jade ibex]

itd be really sadge if it was ords

[lone vigil]

what is the best way to be farming the event currency

[vivid panther]

prinz eugen or takao?

[kind needle]

Wait, which mk7, my mind hurts

[viscid swift]

preferably neither

[jade ibex]

NJ gun

[tranquil saffron]

Gold quads are slightly faster

[viscid swift]

there's only one, the Iowa gun

[kind needle]

Oh, mb

[lone vigil]

what is the best way to be farming the event currency

[whole crypt]

D3

[keen sable]

D3

[kind needle]

How many UR aircraft plan for a wyvern again?

[whole crypt]

9

[abstract aspen]

recently got a dupe of new jersey but my new jersey is max limit break, what do i do to the other one? wut the trophy for?

[lone vigil]

ive only unlocked up to d2 dont have evels for d3

[whole crypt]

scrap

[viscid swift]

retire the dupe for medals

[vivid panther]

ehm?

[viscid swift]

as I said, preferably neither

[whole crypt]

D1 then

[tranquil saffron]

Is the prototype spearfish useful?

[viscid swift]

yes

[novel condor]

Yep

[vivid panther]

then what would be preferable?

[viscid swift]

useful enough to be worth crafting it, well

[jade ibex]

yeah isnt it like 9 ords?

[viscid swift]

I'm assuming you're still early game so Portland retrofit

[kind needle]

Are stacking up on flapjacks a good idea or nah?

[tranquil saffron]

What's it good at?

[whole crypt]

you can use up to around 10 of them in ch15

[keen sable]

sakura vanguard tech: takao
ironblood vanguard tech: eugen

[viscid swift]

parrallel torpedo bomber with a bit more single target thanks to its rockets

[tranquil saffron]

Best used against light and medium right?

[viscid swift]

it's still a mobbing plane first and foremost

It's better than a Saiun on light assuming it's also +13 which yeah....

[tranquil saffron]

So it's pretty niche

[whole crypt]

"best mobbing plane" isn't niche but the cost is an issue

[jade ibex]

arent wyverns better at mobbing?

[viscid swift]

strictly speaking no

if anything I'd say the spearfish is better outside of like W14

[boreal wagon]

why 10 tho

[viscid swift]

but we're not talking about a difference of leaps and bounds between it and the wyvern

[whole crypt]

even 14 it's better

[zinc turret]

if u have good cross fleet barage u could try farm b3 tho with 1 1 fleet that cost really low oil like cassin as vanguard that only cost 1 oil per battle and u can get 80 point per clear , i aint strong enough so i farm b3 with my strongest ship with 1 1 formation and its cost arround 400 oil per 3x clear which give me 240 event point

[whole crypt]

6 on support, 1 on each carrier in main fleets

[jade ibex]

wyvern's intercept is more valuable imho

[viscid swift]

and 9 T3 Ordinance reports is REALLY expensive considering that you're not just competing with T3s but stuff that uses T2s as well

[boreal wagon]

but support doesnt drop bombs and 190 exists

[keen sable]

don't do that. you ain't reaching D3 with that

[whole crypt]

it isn't

[lone vigil]

whats a crossire fleet XD

[whole crypt]

you can use 6 of them in support for being overall best intercept plane but you don't have to yes

[zinc turret]

basically ship that can shoot a barrage even she at standby ( not in battle )

[boreal wagon]

but the 190 has better intercept capabilities lol

it just sucks at everything else

[lone vigil]

is there a list of them anywhere?

[whole crypt]

190 was which one again, Fw?

[viscid swift]

yes

[boreal wagon]

ye

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /crossfleet but irrelevant for you. just don't do it

[marsh lodge]

Does anyone know what actually contributes to the Fleet Power Total on the Leaderboards?

[whole crypt]

if anything Fw's alpha is over and the launch time is under, you're better off using 2 Fw and 2 something else to stagger

[stuck furnace]

is there a need for aa in opsi

[whole crypt]

dedicated AA not really

[boreal wagon]

i mean both work i was just confused about 10 rlly

id rather craft fw 190s if low on golden mats

[whole crypt]

well eventually you can still make more flapjacks for being lazy to swap
if you're not using flapjacks you can probably go with Fw + Buffalo or Messerchimitt for support

[boreal wagon]

p much

[viscid swift]

something similar to how fleet power for individual ships is calculated but it's the summation of your entire dock

[tranquil saffron]

Is Aquila useful for w14?

[stuck furnace]

retire trust

[whole crypt]

basically it counts the power of every unique ship copy once, with different LB levels of a ship counting as unique, but same LB copies do not

[marsh lodge]

It's sort of what I've gathered, but it just confuses me when it both went down and up last night and I went down a rabbit hole

[viscid swift]

swapping gear does that, among other things

[whole crypt]

your ship's power changes with gear

[tranquil saffron]

Is AA a concern for w14?

[keen sable]

you need to control your experimental variables...

[boreal wagon]

it is calculated the exact same way yeah but with the caveat nnt mentioned

[viscid swift]

it is

not to the same degree of W13 or W15 but not something you can completely neglect

[whole crypt]

not a plane hell but you can't dump

[marsh lodge]

guess I'll try see today what updates it then

it both does not matter and is now annoying me

[boreal wagon]

it works identical to this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard#Ship_Power_Rating but for the whole dock and only counts dupes if different limit break

[keen sable]

you could but wiki already has power...

[marsh lodge]

I did check that, but that confirms my answer then

[whole crypt]

which is?

[marsh lodge]

That I should just read better

[whole crypt]

honestly fleet power isn't something to worry about regardless, it'll change everytime you swap gear and even when you get ship drops

[marsh lodge]

indeed

[keen sable]

how big your dock is matters

[boreal wagon]

plus to be on the leaderboard you need quite the considerable dock space

[marsh lodge]

but number go up

[jade ibex]

size doesnt matter

it helps but it depends on a lot of things

[whole crypt]

it does though, you need to hold dupes if you want to play the power leaderboard

[boreal wagon]

i mean it kind of does matter

the ideal strategy is to have one of every ship at each limit break with near perfect rarity gear

[jade ibex]

youd have to be the moby dick of whales to aim for power lb tbh

[whole crypt]

I mean on easier servers you can maybe get on the leaderboard without dupes? no idea where they bottom out on EN
but top some 30 or so are probably all working on dupes

[whole crypt]

yes it's actually a thing, for people to have 2000+ slots holding 4 copies of each ship at different LBs

[silk helm]

when's a good time to spend proto on retro items vs ur bulins

[boreal wagon]

i think in EN you can get on the board without dupes (at least in washington) but to play among the top of the top you definitely need dupes

[keen sable]

on sandy i only have a few dupes and rank 800

[marsh lodge]

I guess if Fleet Tech bonuses increase your ships stats permanently, that also counts?

[whole crypt]

same as JP then

[boreal wagon]

i dont think fleet tech counted

[viscid swift]

Not on Amagi

[keen sable]

tbf rank 100 is only 2000 points ahead

[marsh lodge]

[boreal wagon]

i mean the fact that 14k brings you to 1.3k shows u can prolly get onto the board without dupes (depends on the gap between them tho ig)

just not high up

[wind hazel]

nice

[whole crypt]

supposedly I might be able to squeeze something out of gearing everything in dock, but I'm not touching that

[marsh lodge]

anyway, ty guys

[jade ibex]

is it worth doing map coords 4 or less on opsi? or just change for vouchers

[forest palm]

just do them on auto, it's not much an issue

[keen sable]

vouchers are kind of useless

[pulsar hornet]

Have they fixed Mogador or is she stuck with dying quickly?

[viscid swift]

they have fixed her

[atomic abyss]

She will still die quickly against certain bosses ofc
...like most other DDs

[pulsar hornet]

Ohhh nice, is there a patch note which I can read?

[viscid swift]

they're in #game-news as per usual

[pulsar hornet]

Trying to find which one cause its buried there... what did they do to Mogador anyways? Short Invul or further away when she teleports?

[boreal wagon]

keep in mind that that description is misleading, as her reduction effects also apply if she is burning

[whole crypt]

reddit was going on about it being a fix that the skill didn't work when she burned

[boreal wagon]

yeah no its just the good old lost in translation memery

[whole crypt]

CN/JP text also updated to clarify didn't it

[boreal wagon]

my guess is they just translated JPs description before JP fixed theirs

only JP, CN was always correct (at least iirc dont quote me on that)

[atomic abyss]

...so do we want fire suppressor on her lol

Or is it a meme like Jeanne

[boreal wagon]

her damage reduction is not affected by whether she is burning or not

ENs description is just misleading

and the crit stuff prolly isnt worth sacrificing HP over

[atomic abyss]

Wouldn't be the first time

[hard mesa]

[tame jungle]

just to confirm: if you go over cap with your oil and coins now it does not get transferred to mailbox storage, right?

[whole crypt]

she also already has a burn reduction skill, it's really not worth wasting the slot for extinguisher

[tame jungle]

as in, when you try and collect from hq buildings

[boreal wagon]

only oil/coins claimed from mail go to storage nothing else

[tame jungle]

bit of a missed chance i guess

[whole crypt]

the idea wasn't to stock your normal generation anyway, the target was always mailbox hoarding

[tame jungle]

still, would make a lot of sense in my mind lol

[boreal wagon]

they basically gave us a convenience feature as a tradeoff for them to store less data

[whole crypt]

stocking "excess generation" just means "you're not playing enough" to the devs

[tame jungle]

ehh you kinda wanna be perma over coin cap

just as prep for UR events

[boreal wagon]

tbh i just see the merchant as a neat thing for early players and a last resort for veterans that somehow went broke

[tame jungle]

i mean it's 7k+ coins a day, that adds up quite fast

[boreal wagon]

and u get the same amount in less time by just doing 12-4 or any higher map rlly

[tame jungle]

not the point though, you're wasting a resource that you're getting anyway if you get what i'm trying to say

whenever i see that coin popup it hurts me deep inside lol

[boreal wagon]

i do get what you are saying i just dont view it as a big deal which comes down to your own mentality in the end

[tame jungle]

fair enough

ok enough offtopic sorry

[viscid swift]

frankly the way I see is this, those who need the extra income probably aren't going over the soft cap at all and those who are don't need it

[boreal wagon]

soft cap u mean im guessing

[viscid swift]

yes

[eternal moth]

As reference, I'm running low on coins so I'm using HELP books to get fast cash. These 3 runs of 12-4 will get me over 12k gold.

[jaunty vault]

youd get more if you ran 13-4

[novel condor]

better oil to gold ratio there?

[jaunty vault]

[rapid grail]

the higher the stage you go, the more gold you make
up to like 14-4, not sure on w15 stages

[eternal moth]

Yeah, but then I couldn't run terrible fleets

[jaunty vault]

pretty sure 14-1&2 give less coins per run than 13-4 and obviously less coins per oil too

[novel condor]

hmmm ty goober IM done with all PR exp grind so I just need more gold now

[meager gyro]

whats this? this looks confusing as shit

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head 14-4 is slightly higher than 13-4 but takes much longer and needs better ships
15 is lower so
I just stuck mysefl in 14-1 for a bit because chips

[whole crypt]

telling you which ships you have already picked up what level of tech for

[meager gyro]

eh, ill start bothering with that once i need to

[whole crypt]

there's nothing to do in this tab, it's just for viewing what you have, if anything you want to check that faction button to level up your faction tech

this

[meager gyro]

ok so once im done with anchorage (40% more xp) who should i continue with?

already started with august von parseval before i came back i think

[eternal moth]

AvP is a good choice, or you could work on Agir

[meager gyro]

🥚ir already done aswell as roon and fdg

[eternal moth]

Then either Haku or AvP. Haku is for damage, AvP if you don't have Implacable

[atomic abyss]

Avp first probably
Assuming you don't have implacable

[meager gyro]

i dont have implacable afaik

is she a pr ship or event?

[eternal moth]

Event

[meager gyro]

[eternal moth]

Then yeah, go AvP first

[meager gyro]

what are they both good for?

[eternal moth]

Stopping the enemy

Making sure your torpedoes hit

[meager gyro]

so like crowd control slow?

[pure geode]

yep a cc and unlike the others its not random

[main stag]

What's a good fleet for operation siren?

[atomic abyss]

Yep, so it's essentially for mid/late game carrier comps

[atomic abyss]

The tldr is
A mob fleet
1 BB boss fleet
1 CV boss fleet
An extra fleet

What ships are in those fleets depends on what you have

[meager gyro]

carrier comps?

[atomic abyss]

Yeah, carrier only comps for boss fleets

[main stag]

Thanks for the info 🙂

[meager gyro]

why carrier only?

[atomic abyss]

In operation siren
You want to maximise the efficacy of buffs from your frontline

Most of those buffs are either carrier or battleship specific

Hence why you end up with mono BB or mono CV boss comps

[meager gyro]

now you lost me again

[atomic abyss]

In other words

Operation siren requires at least 2 boss comps

If you want to get the most out of your ships' buffs
It's best to keep them to BB only or CV only

[meager gyro]

what buffs? like ship skills?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

For example
Kazagumo buffs only carriers
So why would you run a BB with the 2 CVs when you can buff 3 CVs

[meager gyro]

i have a feeling that this will get really confusing

[atomic abyss]

Kearsarge is the exception not the rule

[meager gyro]

whats a kazagumo and kearsarge?

[frank pulsar]

kazagumo is a support dd that has air raid assistance skill that buff cv dmg by 15%, kearsarge is a bbv that have same skill

[meager gyro]

[frank pulsar]

which part do you need me to clarify

[meager gyro]

whats air raid assistance? and whats bbv?

[atomic abyss]

Air raid assistance is the skill that buffs carriers damage by 15%
He already explained that

[frank pulsar]

air raid assistance is a skill, bbv is the short name for aviation battleship

[atomic abyss]

Which is a different kind of battleship

[frank pulsar]

battleship with planes basically

[meager gyro]

ok so then that skill would be usefull against bosses that are weak to carriers?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[frank pulsar]

no it buffs YOUR carrier dmg not dmg done to enemy carriers

[keen sable]

start with this

[stuck furnace]

i have Mumu, Warspite , duke, howe, monarch, amagi, sovetsky, champagne, and reichelieu what is a good he and ap backline?

[turbid shell]

is there any guide for Operation Siren?

[frank pulsar]

theres a lot of info on its wiki page in wiki

[frank pulsar]

probably soyuz, duke and howe for both
just gear accordingly

[forest palm]

there's no real guide for Ops

[stuck furnace]

howe flag?

[turbid shell]

..ok thank you

[vale spindle]

Just to clarify how many of those ships are rainbow rarity

[stuck furnace]

musashi and sovetsky

[viscid swift]

Souvetsky could mean one of 3 ships

[stuck furnace]

soyuz

[frank pulsar]

who calls musashi mumu

[vale spindle]

Not really because its pretty straightforward

If any zone has an icon over it, do it
Once all icons are gone, you are done for the month

[forest palm]

is there anything in particular you were inquiring about Ops

[frank pulsar]

musashi soyuz duke is better than my previous suggestion, musashi gets flag

[vale spindle]

Stronghold type zones generate new ones every week so you gotta check back every week if you clear early

[vale spindle]

Musashi soyuz duke of york, then just swap the guns depending on HE vs AP

[forest palm]

Musashi on HE

[vale spindle]

its scuffed but is better than not rainbow

[frank pulsar]

its not that bad, still better than their other options at the very least

[meager gyro]

what does affinity even do? does it give me any buffs or is it just for oathing?

[viscid swift]

100 affinity gives you a 3% stat boost

[stuck furnace]

is this gun better than fdg gun

[forest palm]

isn't that just a side grade

[sweet delta]

If this is for your opsi boss fleet then neither gun is good

[meager gyro]

anything i should still go for here?

[forest palm]

the chips

[viscid swift]

No and both are just overpriced Twin 410s

[meager gyro]

how many crystals does one d3 run give?

[viscid swift]

Mogador dupe

[viscid swift]

180

[meager gyro]

17 more d3 runs with high efficiency plans for the mog dupe

thats should be doable

[stuck furnace]

isnj still relavant or did powercreep happen

[crimson glacier]

relevant enough

[turbid shell]

what stuff do i hoard or buy on operation siren?

[atomic abyss]

no longer the best yeah
but still top tier

[crimson glacier]

still beats like all gold BBs pretty much