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late pike
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imma do 30 dock space then

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i had thought of skinn, but imma buy it when i become p2p

pine shadow
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is limited banner something i should focus on as new player? it says to select 2 characters

wind hazel
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only do that if you're done with Event Banner

whole crypt
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don't do that even if you're done with event banner

wind hazel
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NimiWat what

whole crypt
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wishing well is only good for patching holes in your collection, it's shit for new players

wind hazel
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you can select Aurora and some other Light and do 1 WW per day

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and it would be better than the normal light imo

worldly pewter
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it is better UniHappy

whole crypt
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better for the specific ships you picked, provided you get them

late pike
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bro, hes a new player

whole crypt
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but it's not like getting Aurora has any priority for a new player

wind hazel
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more chance of getting aurora is still better than no boosted rate

worldly pewter
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in a general concept it is better

wind hazel
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you'd still end up using 1 cube per day, might as well boost the chance

whole crypt
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it's worse because Aurora is now costing you 1 dock space when you have no use for her

wind hazel
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as opposed of suddenly getting her from Light??

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or any other ship for that matter

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what kind of reasoning is this...

summer prism
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in w15 fleet recs i saw there is one fleet with only 3 cv. so in w15 we get a air support only fleet or something?

viscid swift
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yes

pine shadow
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so im selecting aurora and who else?

wind hazel
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someone like Kazagumo

worldly pewter
pine shadow
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alright thanks

wind hazel
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only if you've gotten Alsace, really

whole crypt
wind hazel
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otherwise don't bother with wishing well

pine shadow
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so just keep wishing on event

wind hazel
viscid swift
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I have to agree

whole crypt
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there's no need to do or not do light WW but whatever

viscid swift
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one additional ship in the face of hundreds you'll get in the first few months is nothing

whole crypt
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few to none of those ships you'll need to really bother with at this point

sweet delta
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It's like refusing to waste a docj space on a UR you can't use for 3 months

wind hazel
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imagine you lucksack a Kazagumo

viscid swift
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when you're done pulling on event doing one daily light pool on WW light rate is perfectly fine and in fact optimal

whole crypt
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and honestly Kazagumo would have been a better option than Aurora to start with yes

eager mulch
viscid swift
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you can select 2 ships for rate up...

wind hazel
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is there anyone else from Light that you would prefer

late pike
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ohh yea, i wanna have 4 active fleets now so imma make thread, help me make em

silk helm
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is amagi an upgrade to nelson retro? or can u not compare them

whole crypt
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you can but the second option doesn't need to be aurora

wind hazel
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so who do you suggest, other than kaza

viscid swift
silk helm
cinder bloom
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there is a calculator for syncing BBs somewhere, right?

undone plover
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Not choosing aurora and kazagumo is griefing yourself honestly

sweet delta
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You're not the first victim

viscid swift
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ECTL doesn't tier within tiers, bear that in mind for furture

cinder bloom
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ty

whole crypt
wind hazel
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and by then you'd prefer to have an Aurora in your dock than having none

viscid swift
wind hazel
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it's pretty much kaza+aurora

eager mulch
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aurora I’d say

undone plover
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Bristol if u dont mind manual MutsukiHyperStare

wind hazel
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maybe scylla in the future? MutsukiHyperStare

eager mulch
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Scylla good

whole crypt
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what are the odds Scylla isn't good anymore by the time she hits perm

ember totem
crimson glacier
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is scylla good now?

viscid swift
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when has she not been

undone plover
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BiS for one of the monthly challenges wasnt she?

eager mulch
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Scylla good

crimson glacier
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well never used her on any challenge mode and never struggled so

eager mulch
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game is easy

open jackal
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hewo, is there a shop guide for the latest event? thanks in advance

jaunty vault
whole crypt
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isn't shop priority in datamine

jaunty vault
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uhh just make sure to push down buying bearnMeta(8k point one)to end of event, just in case you get her from other sources

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event faq channel is basically datamine copy pasta

cinder bloom
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how do I sync bismark with soyuz? I can't figure this out

eager mulch
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giving them the same gun should be adequate

stark quiver
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What is this months arbiter and armor

jaunty vault
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/bombzen BB calculator

cinder bloom
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shouldn't soyuz be firing first? bismarck fires a lot faster and eventually gets way out of sync

jaunty vault
stark quiver
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Thanks

eager mulch
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is this Bismarck or Bismarck zwei

sweet delta
cinder bloom
sweet delta
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Then give the slowest BB afct or hsfcr and the others not

eager mulch
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my BBs kill before they desync

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what battles can even last >3 minutes

cinder bloom
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extreme

cobalt rapids
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Cm can last 10 min

sweet delta
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EX can last 5 min

sweet delta
jaunty vault
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i have ADHD

sharp token
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is bearn meta good?

jaunty vault
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good

sharp token
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lategame? like w13-w15

jaunty vault
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okay-ish

sweet delta
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What happens to meta crystals past MLB?

open jackal
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foch meta seems good, or am i just coping

cobalt rapids
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Bearm is good but better easier accessible options exist

jaunty vault
fluid brook
eager mulch
sharp token
open jackal
sweet delta
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Her barrages look good too 🗡️

jaunty vault
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what are better easier accessible options instead of bearnMETA

cobalt rapids
eager mulch
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what tech does moch give

jaunty vault
fluid brook
jaunty vault
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TRP

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is sara better and easily accessible than BearnM? AlbaDoubt

eager mulch
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+1 unzen trp Blessex

jaunty vault
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🤔

cobalt rapids
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Are u doubting that sara is better or easy accessible or both

jaunty vault
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BearnM is easily accessible... for now
im doubting if shes better or no

opal gyro
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what to determine shinano or nj from ur exchange? not too good at knowing this game yet

cobalt rapids
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If u say bearm is better than sarakai ill believe u

inland shoal
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Wtf is a "@silent" message?

jaunty vault
jaunty vault
opal gyro
viscid swift
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Shinano then

jaunty vault
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like the message will be yellow but you get no notification @inland shoal

cobalt rapids
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shinano always

stark quiver
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How to kill this months cm

opal gyro
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ok thank you DorkHeart

whole crypt
fluid brook
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@fluid brook

inland shoal
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BiZ makes it quite easy

boreal wagon
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it just mutes push notifs everything else still works as it normally would

fluid brook
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do we alr got this CM? i remember seeing Douth in CM before

cinder bloom
jaunty vault
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douth?

cobalt rapids
fluid brook
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South Dakota

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or SouDa idk

jaunty vault
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wtf Kekw

stark quiver
jaunty vault
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pls call her sodak from now on

whole crypt
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sodak is sodak

cinder bloom
whole crypt
fervent hearth
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Do we use AP for
This monthly boss?

fluid brook
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For H/Arbiter you dont use AP

dusk maple
fluid brook
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And you also dont use AP for CM

whole crypt
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excuse me?

silk helm
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Is Tai Yuan a good pick up from the guild shop? not mentioned in shop priority guide PortDoll

fluid brook
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Retro her to be good

inland shoal
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It's just not mentioned cuz it's kinda costly

whole crypt
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if you have her retrofit item

tiny kettle
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have they fixed mogador or is she still suicidal?

whole crypt
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fixed

fluid brook
strong tartan
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yeah

silk helm
fluid brook
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Damn i forgor

whole crypt
strong tartan
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it was avail during the LNY this year

fluid brook
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Ah, AP i tho Action Points PortDoll

tiny kettle
whole crypt
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she was always worth MLB, we were just waiting for fix

inland shoal
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Lowest prio among URs imo

viscid swift
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nah, I'd still put Kronk lowest

worldly pewter
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but it is ultimately dependent on the person's dock UniHappy

tiny kettle
viscid swift
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not particularly, that's why Kronk is lowest

stark quiver
eager mulch
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that’s one way to do it

whole crypt
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go read their skills, you have like a 4s window or some shit

stark quiver
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Amazing

eager mulch
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or you can eat the heals smolmagisleep

whole crypt
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If you have enough DPS yeh, that's how I did my first run last year WarShrug

stark quiver
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I could only do the easy one last year

dusk maple
whole crypt
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time to see how much you've improved then ShiSleep

whole crypt
silk helm
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saratoga retro or independence retro first PortDoll

whole crypt
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they like specifically spaced out around 1M HP between them didn't they, so that auto will end up alternating

whole crypt
dusk maple
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idk forgot how but they die at the same time when they're grouped

whole crypt
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was probably pisces that you nuke together, I do remember there was a boss somewhere that you did that

abstract latch
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When do i need to build my 2nd fleet?

stark quiver
whole crypt
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I'm not sure if BisZwei will work for Gemini, if the black hole lands in the middle of their circling

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Leo specifically circled around and just teleported outside of it

wind hazel
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biz suck them into one, tried it earlier (run still failed for me tho EssexCry )

night pumice
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is the new cruise meta any good?

whole crypt
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no one's tested
no one's got an MLB copy anyway
probably shit because it's cruise

worldly pewter
whole crypt
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more like when you can afford to, usually starting ch9+

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"can't 1 fleet" could also just be level that fleet up more before trying again

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stat reqs for HM are a bit more finnicky, if level req isn't an issue you can just throw in random ships to fill up stats

strange sphinx
night pumice
strange sphinx
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hmmm also when did they remove the mechanic where when you retire a ship, it will give a portion of oil

whole crypt
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around time 2-1 farm proliferated

whole crypt
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it was like not very long after OS was added IIRC so something like 3

strange sphinx
whole crypt
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almost 3 years yeh

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I just vaguely remember it as a whole chain of events including auto modes after OS was launched

tired condor
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i dont got no subs, should i save for next ur or pull for subs using wishing well

topaz smelt
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You don't need subs

tired condor
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i cant do supply line without any subs

silk helm
viscid swift
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you literally get a sub just by clearing 3-4

topaz smelt
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You can clear the entire game without subs

silk helm
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cool well i wanna do that one daily thing that requires subs so i can get some retro materials

whole crypt
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the easiest way to do subs is just get Royal Fortune, even without gold guns she can trivialize the whole thing ShiSleep

topaz smelt
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Does rf hold up without her gear?

strange sphinx
whole crypt
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+6 blue guns and maybe some auxes yeh she'll hold up, might need more levels too

topaz smelt
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What aux are even available

whole crypt
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mostly collab lemme check what you can slap on her

topaz smelt
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Don't think newbs are gonna have collab stuff

whole crypt
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but that's for top lv anyway, like lv65 sub raid you can get away with less

topaz smelt
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Ye

tired condor
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im trynna doo the lv 75

vale apex
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any of these worth mlbing?.

whole crypt
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could probably get away with toolkits + arctic report

sweet delta
strange sphinx
tired condor
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lv 65 more worth doing?

strange sphinx
whole crypt
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was that the Mk. 8 cope

vale apex
stark quiver
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when i run this fleet in cm, http://renhex.github.io/alft/46, midwya through the battle, haku suddenly starts to fire slower than everyone else, and her torps just miss, how do i fix that

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ill try to screen record it

sweet delta
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What does midway mean

stark quiver
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at about the 5:30 mark of the battle

sweet delta
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It will of course start to desync if you take too long

viscid swift
sweet delta
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And 5 minutes is very too long

whole crypt
vale apex
sweet delta
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Does it drop more prints?

stark quiver
viscid swift
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start limit breaking ships for tech points

whole crypt
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off the top of my head yes, but I stopped doing it too long ago to be sure

vale apex
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aight

whole crypt
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though to be fair 65 will be much easier to get through with a scuffed RF if that's what he'll be using to clear

eager mulch
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1500 core data to clear sub weekly AmagiNom

sweet delta
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I doubt more drops makes up the difference of 90% vs 65%, and indeed if it's about the same it's still not worth raising subs further early game

whole crypt
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not much worse than building random subs you'll never use just for it, or waiting for them

sweet delta
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GLHF

silk helm
topaz smelt
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Not until 95

viscid swift
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I wouldn't pay that especially early on hen there's much better things to spend core data on

topaz smelt
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And by then you prob would have random subs

worldly pewter
silk helm
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cool i will save my core data for the black and white guns and then maybe indep after

tired condor
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yea i saw u96 can be gotten from medal but its not here this month

sweet delta
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The easiest way is to just use i-58 and stop after the 65

tired condor
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why 65 tho

sweet delta
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It drops purple bps for the mark viii, which is used to gear lab into bidder

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And if you're having trouble with 75, it's not worth raising another sub with exp and bulins just to do this weekly

strange sphinx
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why only 4 per week for Sub farming

soft raft
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go ask the devs

strange sphinx
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oh well another bp

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might farm exercise

polar venture
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Is alsace better boss fleet or mob fleet

kind slate
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is there anything significant abt 14-3 compared to 1 and 2?

topaz smelt
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subs

soft raft
polar venture
topaz smelt
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anything not mlb sucks

silk sphinx
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would it be like bisz alsace soyuz nowadays?

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also, alsace vanguard additive?

whole crypt
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word is BisZwei/Alsace/VG or Musashi/BisZwei/Alsace depending, not sure if anyone's seriously ran the numbers

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actually would Alsace get more out of flag than BisZwei with Plymouth ThinkZed

topaz smelt
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nah should be a lot less

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she wont ever buff the preload

whole crypt
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oh right

topaz smelt
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are ppl running fast alsace or 🥖 vg

whole crypt
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it procs off her barrage or something doesn't it, it's just easy to keep up after proc

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with Alsace how's Brest looking vs Agir though

patent pivot
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Gotta trust that the targeting won't cuck you though

topaz smelt
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these ppl only talk about harby anyways

silk sphinx
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i'll prob run something like agir mogador plym

topaz smelt
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and its prio target

patent pivot
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It's prio on unenhanced, enhances goesnto random

fossil shard
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The prototype core shop doesn’t refresh monthly?

topaz smelt
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enhance is random after the 1st iirc

patent pivot
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Unless that was datamine error

whole crypt
silk sphinx
fossil shard
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Why can’t I buy anymore tenrai blueprint?

whole crypt
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the UR gear prints are one-time

fossil shard
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If I can’t buy anymore blueprints what should I buy then

silk sphinx
whole crypt
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preload will never be enhanced
the question is whether the proc on first reload will get cucked

whole crypt
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and I assume you also already bought out other rainbow gear?

fossil shard
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I wanted to focus on the tenrais first since I only had one. I’ll buy everything else then

whole crypt
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champagne gun has highest priority if you don't have enough copies, not like you can buy enough prints for one copy within 1 month though

feral salmon
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tfw forgot about da Vinci can let you call sub everywhere on the map. JUST

whole crypt
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only once

topaz smelt
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i dont wanna check code again
go find thorin

whole crypt
wintry obsidian
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Mogador isn't as squishy as one would expect. Just did an opsi stronghold and Brest of all of them was downed (they did blunder into hazard zones like after every battle). Opsi adaptation is fairly low atm so results should be better when it gets up

eager mulch
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ok

whole crypt
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but she's not squishy

topaz smelt
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once per month isnt realyl consistent

jaunty vault
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frwnch simp

wintry obsidian
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Mostly just posted this to disprove Hoffen's "theory" that Moga will be worthless in Opsi

fossil shard
whole crypt
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yeh but at least it's basically the same fight on rotation, META is different mechanics every 3 months

wind hazel
topaz smelt
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when ppl talk about opsi they pretty much only mean harby

sweet delta
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Who tf is hoffen

whole crypt
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who is hoffen agian

jaunty vault
viscid swift
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isn't he that nuttyjack guy who keeps coping Vanguard is bad since her release

fossil shard
jaunty vault
whole crypt
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if you have the prints then you're probably okay, but yes you'll probably end up using more than 2 in an anti-medium fleet

sweet delta
fossil shard
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Alright thanks

wintry obsidian
whole crypt
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he already got tenrai, so probably q152 first WarShrug

topaz smelt
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its pretty much just 457 from there

viscid swift
eager mulch
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nuttyjack did

wintry obsidian
whole crypt
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because people who have no idea how the game works like to talk trash and doompost

sweet delta
wind hazel
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tl;dr don't listen to Hoffen

crimson glacier
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i dont remember hoffen saying that vanguard is bad

topaz smelt
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except my doomposts are great

atomic abyss
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Because Hoffen is a doomposting moron and his opinions should be disregarded

crimson glacier
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ppl dont dont like the guy and love drama

atomic abyss
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Let him doompost in gen

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As long as he doesn't doompost in here (again) it's fine ShiSleep

silk helm
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thank you for keeping gameplay-help clean and helpful

undone plover
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Is soul forming good for ship BP? I can spare the cubes

topaz smelt
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kinda

jaunty vault
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is that the 30 min H

undone plover
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Yes. How much does it give on average?

sweet delta
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Upwards of 30 chips per cube is very good

jaunty vault
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a lot

undone plover
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Fine I will take it PortDoll

jaunty vault
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eh its only 3 cubes

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and rare as shit

eager mulch
jaunty vault
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as rare as shit

undone plover
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Yeah I think I have gotten more rainbow research now that u mention it

topaz smelt
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~~is my research conspiracy gaining support ~~

fickle scarab
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How good is Alsace or testing not over yet?

fickle scarab
sweet delta
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Typical new UR BB

cobalt rapids
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I havent seen alsace testing yet

sweet delta
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@atomic abyss

fickle scarab
atomic abyss
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someone got to it whoops

eager mulch
fickle scarab
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Should I be asking someone else for the answer?

whole crypt
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that depends on what sort of answer you want

fickle scarab
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Want to know if she can replace any of top 3

cobalt rapids
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Maybe

whole crypt
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but who's your top 3

atomic abyss
viscid swift
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who even is the top 3

it's like top 5 at this point

sweet delta
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What else do you expect, "the best fleet with Alsace does A.BCDE% more damage than the former best triple Bb fleet"?

fickle scarab
whole crypt
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but that's not top 3 though

meager gyro
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can you even full afk opsi zones?

eager mulch
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I’m a zwei vanguard soyuz believer

topaz smelt
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you can full afk the entire game

patent pivot
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Testing with max skills will start ~now to tomorrow. Even then it depends heavily on length of fight and armor type at a minimum. Plus other BS

whole crypt
fickle scarab
meager gyro
topaz smelt
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ye opsi pathing is pretty dumb and gets stuck on stuff

viscid swift
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I've had Alsace's skills maxed since this morning so people should have her fully maxed by now

whole crypt
steady beacon
whole crypt
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yeh people who bothered will have max Alsace skills by now, testing though WarShrug

topaz smelt
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my opinion on her still hasnt changed since prelim, only competitive when utilizing her preload

viscid swift
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when you say utilizing her preload I assume clearing the first wave in a fight or something to that degree

fickle scarab
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Alright will come back later thx

steady beacon
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Her preloaded salvo

cobalt rapids
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Start battle with chargeweapon loaded

meager gyro
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still no understand

whole crypt
topaz smelt
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having impact on the fight rather than killing wave 1 and waiting 20s when the vg would have killed it anyways

sweet delta
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Expect a definitive answer in 3 years when it's safe to say she's been powercrept

vestal thistle
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What is laffey II

fickle scarab
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does she have enough rld to 4 salvo 460mm with loader?
I'm assuming table and hpfcr is useless to her

cobalt rapids
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A destroyer

sweet delta
odd rootBOT
undone plover
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Radar works with preload

steady beacon
whole crypt
# meager gyro whats preload?

basically the ship can use the attacks like torps, airstrikes or BB salvos right at the start of fight are called preloads

undone plover
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Just affects second salvo which is technically still the first reload

whole crypt
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Alsace has lowest reload now of all UR BBs except maybe Musashi

topaz smelt
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lower

whole crypt
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off the top of my head Musashi is same ballpark after skill

vestal thistle
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Isn't she preload?

whole crypt
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she is

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but preload doesn't mean she has higher RLD stat

fickle scarab
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177 rld but no skill buff NagaThonk

meager gyro
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what to i buy?

whole crypt
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scroll down for coords

vestal thistle
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Okay when will I be able to get laffey II

meager gyro
fickle scarab
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Sushi 171.6 after skill, she faster than sushi

cobalt rapids
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When her event will rerun

sweet delta
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The 5000 oil thing if you want to full afk strategic search opsi explorable zones

viscid swift
whole crypt
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just more hidden and abyssal zones

vestal thistle
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When is that

steady beacon
viscid swift
whole crypt
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also yeh the 5k oil logger if you want to lazymode OS

sweet delta
vestal thistle
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When did she ran?

steady beacon
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Dec 2023

viscid swift
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December 2023

fickle scarab
vestal thistle
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Damn my birthday

topaz smelt
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alsace has kinda interesting timings with various guns/setups tho

soft raft
steady beacon
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Interesting is putting it mildly PortDoll

viscid swift
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define interesting

topaz smelt
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she gets ahead of bz if her rld is low enough

viscid swift
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low enough....

vestal thistle
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Also what's up with mogador and her gun

topaz smelt
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tech rld

fickle scarab
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Does Alsace start loading her 2nd salvo earlier?

peak mulch
vestal thistle
peak mulch
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I thought everyone had her

whole crypt
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nothing wrong with mogador and her gun is great

sweet delta
cobalt rapids
vestal thistle
fickle scarab
whole crypt
peak mulch
atomic abyss
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mogador is only better as a gun dps

undone plover
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Doesnt she have a low bar to clear for one of the best BB if u include her preload + fleetwide buff? Do dps comparisons take buff into account?

peak mulch
topaz smelt
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welcome to dps, no one knows what is taken into account

whole crypt
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yes but person obviously missed it?

fickle scarab
vestal thistle
crimson glacier
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coz its a good gun?

atomic abyss
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^

fickle scarab
sweet delta
whole crypt
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she had a problem
it was fixed
it's just a good gun and you put it on a good DD you actually use

vestal thistle
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... I use her

sweet delta
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I use her too

whole crypt
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then feel free to put the gun on her

crimson glacier
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thats very cool

vestal thistle
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Like since I got her

sweet delta
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Same

vestal thistle
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Laffey is on boss fleet

crimson glacier
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she sucks on bosses

sweet delta
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Why are you telling us this though

vestal thistle
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But Frederick and new UR are neglecting her damage
Then vola

crimson glacier
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???

whole crypt
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wha? what's that got to do with anything

sweet delta
vestal thistle
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Like really I don't understand diddly but I like the game

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Someone helped me yesterday in gearing main fleet

fickle scarab
whole crypt
#

ok, so what is your actual question? mogador is fine to use now, and her gun is fine to use on her, nothing else is relevant

vestal thistle
#

How can I show whole fleet and their gear in one picture

soft raft
#

You dont
You post all of that stuff in a thread

whole crypt
#

if you need fleet help start a thread and post the pics in there

normal sun
#

with a frontline of helena z23 and portland if ive retrofitted unicorn in my backline alr whos my next priority

whole crypt
#

please don't try to put everything on a single picture

cobalt rapids
#

Port

atomic abyss
#

port

soft raft
#

Portland > Z23 > Helena

vestal thistle
#

But I've seen people do it

meager gyro
#

fastest way to get these?

normal sun
#

aigh thanks every1

crimson glacier
#

play a lot of opsi

vestal thistle
#

I am just asking who is making better use of the gun

viscid swift
rain vine
atomic abyss
whole crypt
#

you do it with a picture editing tool if you want to put it in 1 pic
or you could just post all of them separately in a thread and that'll be much easier to see

crimson glacier
#

if you use mog then mog

normal sun
#

also is it worth farming the event just for the bulin at 30k if i can only clear like up to c3

fickle scarab
crimson glacier
#

bulin is 100% worth

topaz smelt
#

take a vid of your dock

whole crypt
#

the only ships that can squeeze more out of mog gun than moggy is DDGs

topaz smelt
#

idk about that one

viscid swift
#

what

topaz smelt
#

130x2 is kidna big

vestal thistle
sweet delta
#

He wants the renhex

vestal thistle
whole crypt
#

you mean the fleet tool thing or what

cedar willow
#

when a ship NOT MLB reached highest level, its EXP +0 after sortie, does it count to Collection Data of Research?

whole crypt
#

0LB mog bad

vestal thistle
viscid swift
#

a MLB Laffey makes much better use of the gun than a 0 LB Mogador

crimson glacier
#

sonar does literally nothing

vestal thistle
meager gyro
#

alright i just spent all my action point chests just to die dies

soft raft
crimson glacier
#

sonar gives 0 hp

soft raft
vestal thistle
#

Oh sonar.... Yeah Idk why it's there

sweet delta
#

Sonar is so useless that you can scrap it for some plates refund

vestal thistle
#

Okay

whole crypt
#

for a start you probably don't want to be using a 0LB Mogador, or a 0LB anything for that matter
if you really want that fleet help you're going to have to just start that thead and post what you have

meager gyro
#

who gets this?

whole crypt
#

generally cruisers

forest palm
#

your frontline cruiser

crimson glacier
#

almost every frontline ship wants it

atomic abyss
#

heavy cruisers first

soft raft
#

pretty much every frontliner that isnt a DD wants that
With your main tank having priority for it if you only have a few

vestal thistle
opaque galleon
#

For large cruisers, what should the second aux be?

whole crypt
#

a lv120 0LB UR is still 🚮

vestal thistle
#

Overmorrow

viscid swift
vestal thistle
#

... My highest isn't 118 yet

soft raft
viscid swift
meager gyro
whole crypt
#

I'm just saying if you seriously want to improve what you're doing you're going to have to make a lot of changes and listen to what we're saying

atomic abyss
#

whoever is the main tank
so prob roon

meager gyro
#

oh wait roon has one already

atomic abyss
#

san fran then

meager gyro
#

no purple plates dies

vestal thistle
#

I meant lb 1 from event

whole crypt
supple verge
#

a bit of a dumb question does 14-4 have more gold than 12-4 and if so is it more efficient to farm gold there?

sweet delta
#

Missing the part where cheeky recommended mogador

vestal thistle
#

I am lb3ing blindfold

#

Need few more coins first

viscid swift
#

I did not reccomend Moagdor...

sweet delta
vestal thistle
whole crypt
#

but it's better chips/oil

vestal thistle
#

Her dub

viscid swift
#

I did yes, but I didn't reccomend her to be used right now, or indeed in the near future

sweet delta
soft raft
#

what does her dub(?) have to do with literally anything here

viscid swift
#

I did say to just use fleet 2 as a stat stick

meager gyro
#

how do i get these fast?

silk helm
#

anything worth buying from here? already have MLB hood. i was thinking bismarck for IB points for fdg Blessex

viscid swift
whole crypt
soft raft
vestal thistle
silk helm
#

thanks friends

whole crypt
#

what, you can get plates in medal shop, I don't seriously recommend doing it in volume and it's not that many each month, but it's there

soft raft
viscid swift
#

should have said not to invest much of anything outside of fleet 1

vestal thistle
#

Since Frederick is 20lv or more above recommend

opaque galleon
#

How do I get terror and Erebus to survive in 12-4?

sweet delta
#

AA radar

viscid swift
#

you can fight without ammo

soft raft
#

You can still fight at 0 ammo, that's a non issue

whole crypt
vestal thistle
#

I know but less damage

soft raft
#

that means jack shit with properly built fleets

whole crypt
#

if you can't gear one fleet to do enough damage on 0 ammo you can't gear 2 fleets

meager gyro
#

what should i buy here? dont think i can get a second moga

craggy lance
#

Best way to farm meta bits?

eternal plinth
#

Shelling or fast reload gun for Alsace

whole crypt
#

depends™️

eternal plinth
#

Yeah

viscid swift
eager mulch
#

farming mearn dupes Blessex

viscid swift
#

weekly missions, harbiter, OpSi exchange shop, and getting META dupes past MLB

craggy lance
vestal thistle
#

But isn't leveling to reach hard mode req faster that way

whole crypt
#

OS, showdowns

viscid swift
craggy lance
hazy marten
#

whats this used for? (fba 19)

vestal thistle
#

If one fleet does everything only it level up

craggy lance
forest palm
craggy lance
#

Can’t the Sakura floatplane go in the same slot anyway?

viscid swift
#

so the ships you're using for the "2nd" fleet are mostly just going to be throwaways so it's not worth investing much into them

vestal thistle
#

I am not really developing anything
Only developed ship is uni to keep them alive

#

And somewhat nosh u for dps

soft raft
#

what even are your fleets
Is your FdG even D30

peak mulch
#

On Laffey 2 am I supposed to have the tp gears on her?

vestal thistle
ivory crown
#

is post buff mogador actually good

atomic abyss
#

yes, very

vestal thistle
whole crypt
#

if you can't do D3 just go back and farm D1/2 until you can

soft raft
viscid swift
vestal thistle
whole crypt
#

I'm pretty sure you'll struggle to clear D3 in that state even if you got the levels up

soft raft
atomic abyss
#

kim meta is shit, that's all

whole crypt
#

the ship is shit, the gear you have on her is also shit

eager mulch
#

bad ship, bad gear, not mlb

vestal thistle
#

Sad

Even the new one

#

I know but she was my first secretary

viscid swift
#

just use the one fleet I reccomended

stick whatever you can in the 2nd fleet to meet the stat requirements
if it can take a mob fleet or 2 great

vestal thistle
#

Okay

#

But what after they reach 120

#

Which isn't far

viscid swift
#

that's happening anytime soon trust me

#

esepcially not before the end of the event

soft raft
#

10 lvls off isnt "Isnt far"

viscid swift
#

you need 875 thousand XP to go from 115 to 120 alone

whole crypt
#

it is if you're not capable of doing heavy grinding

#

and D3 XP is pretty far from 11+

peak mulch
#

How come I can't send images on here I wanted to show my laffey 2 build

whole crypt
#

also, if they hit 120 then just let them hit 120
being able to farm consistently should have precedence

#

you can swap ships in to level/carry as you go

vestal thistle
#

Okay but can I

#

I just need one level for d3

silk helm
atomic abyss
#

much less

viscid swift
atomic abyss
#

like 30% less

vestal thistle
silk helm
#

ohhh so d3 isn't good for like farming xp?

viscid swift
#

a 0/1 LB mogador won't be useful for quite some time

soft raft
whole crypt
vestal thistle
#

Because I like her gimmick and want to level her

viscid swift
silk helm
#

even if u hit the lvl req, r u sure u can beat it?

whole crypt
#

I'm not sure how much better a 1LB Kimberly META is over a 0LB Mogador
ideally you should drop both ShiSleep

vestal thistle
viscid swift
whole crypt
#

levels can be fixed farming D1

vestal thistle
whole crypt
#

why force bad ships into D3 when you can level better ships in D1 then do D3

viscid swift
#

because they don't have the resources for to invest in more ships for ships 2nd fleet

#

usual case of mismanaged bullins

vestal thistle
#

I never used UR bullins before yesterday

#

For alsace which is 10k coin short of lb3

faint kite
whole crypt
vestal thistle
#

Also what of augments

silk helm
vestal thistle
viscid swift
whole crypt
#

if you don't have the coins for LBing Alsace you don't have the coins for augments

whole crypt
#

it's just a minor stat boost, just slot whatever you have on hand, if you have any

silk helm
vestal thistle
#

Yea

#

I have 2 and she is lb2

#

Also modgar reached lv90 so fleet can run d3

#

And what is best way to use xp books

viscid swift
#

early game, holding them to boost ships early on for the 2nd fleet/replacements so you can drag them through oil capped maps for leveling

strange sphinx
#

still have those new comer data analysis

silk helm
whole crypt
#

something like that

viscid swift
#

ships that you're planning to level yes

strange sphinx
#

the things that can boost the PR exp

viscid swift
#

convert those to prototype cores

whole crypt
#

but that also means the rest of your fleet needs to be capable carrying a new ship

silk helm
soft raft
viscid swift
strange sphinx
#

yeah still not dome in Newcomer missions so Inhave plenty to convert

whole crypt
#

you pick ships that will be better than your current lineup to replace later in the game
that or you pick ships that will form your additional fleets in OS

strange sphinx
silk helm
#

thank you The Ministry of Big Balans Botes

whole crypt
#

if you're done leveling ships that form all your main fleets then yes tech ships

silk helm
#

okay cool

heady pier
#

is it alright to retrofit javelin for the main fleet?

atomic abyss
#

you need to retro one of the starters for the rookie missions so

heady pier
#

well i was trying to retro portland but i cant just get drop from T2 cruiser so i just got mad and retro javel

soft raft
#

you gotta retrofit one of the starters for rookie missions so if she's the one you're usuing, sure

atomic abyss
#

you still need to retro port for rookie missions anyways

heady pier
#

are u talkin about training-exam stage?

soft raft
#

yes

heady pier
#

i have 5 task left and i got no retro mission i think it was done when i did unicorn retro

red stag
#

hi just came back go AL after a month, anyone know where the ingame asmr is??

viscid swift
#

you don't need to full retro Portland or your starter for the missions but well you may as well finish them

vestal thistle
#

Yeah tanky

heady pier
#

i was lookin at this and saw that i should retro it and i just done retrofiting unicorn so i might aswell retro portland

#

but misery

atomic abyss
#

discord bruv

soft raft
#

What happened to the image MutsukiStare

silk helm
viscid swift
#

tap memories then secrets

viscid swift
heady pier
#

farmed last 3 days i think

silk helm
heady pier
#

im just tryna hit 9-1 i can do it with single fleet but yeah at least tryna min-max the first fleet

heady pier
#

this is all of it

silk helm
#

which hard stage r u doing?

heady pier
#

6-2

silk helm
heady pier
#

but i probably got these much from old events and other stuff becuase im an returneer player

soft raft
#

world number doesnt really mean much for hard mode outside of higher world = more core data per run

heady pier
#

what would my second fleet when i reach 9-1?

soft raft
#

depends on what you have when you get to that point

heady pier
#

should i create a thread so i can show?

silk helm
#

you can also start a thread and post ur full dock

undone plover
#

is this a workable cat?

inland shoal
#

HP already means it's bad

#

I mean you can raise it if you got nothing better, but it's not worth resetting

undone plover
#

it can get full RLD right if i get lucky?

inland shoal
#

I'd rather get flame

#

Though ig it could still get both if you get rly lucky? Unless there's another rld talent I'm forgetting

sweet delta
#

full rld means no flame

#

why do you need full rld though MutsukiHyperStare to become my disciple?

undone plover
#

is it missing a talent or are all elites 2 talent cats?

undone plover
inland shoal
vestal thistle
#

How usable is foch

inland shoal
sweet delta
#

purple cat only gets 8 points, you need 3 for officer, 3 for rld, 1 for ace, and 1 for flame

undone plover
#

so it is pretty tight with elite CV cats Noteshiro

inland shoal
#

Wait they only get 2? MutsukiHyperStare

#

Man it's been a while since I did my cats

undone plover
#

np thorin teach me and I will remember for u Blessex

inland shoal
undone plover
#

I have a level 7 jiromaru with this and no other talents
which one is better?

sweet delta
#

the ace

inland shoal
#

To use? The Ace

#

To reroll? I'd neither

undone plover
#

Noteshiro

so basically for reroll I want flame/ace start + useful CV talent (not hp) correct?

#

in general (maybe anecdotal and useless question) but is starting with hull specific or flame better? to roll the other I mean

soft raft
#

if I were to be using Mog gun on someone else, what french gear would Mog use to fufill her gear req? or is that kinda just 🤏

jade heart
#

I've been doing DoY/Bismark Zwei/New Jersy

Should I just do all UR and drop new jersy with Soyuz/Bismark2/Alsace instead

viscid swift
#

that would be better yes for an OpSI BB fleet

undone plover
#

can all elites roll flame in initial talents?
the cat guide says only oscar can roll both soulful and flame as starter from the SR BB cats

sweet delta
#

is that minable?

inland shoal
boreal wagon
#

cross brooch works technically but its less HP

whole crypt
#

yeh mog's fine PortDoll

elfin hollow
#

What aa guns are good for hms ships?

atomic abyss
whole crypt
#

the same AA guns that are good for non-HMS ships

soft raft
elfin hollow
whole crypt
#

rainbow
roomba
staag
depends on what ship

atomic abyss
#

depends on which ship

soft raft
#

AA Carry gets prio for UR AA or Sextuple or Roomba (If you lack enough UR AA)
STAAG/Haze for all backliners
American Quad or Italian Twin bofors for everyone else

whole crypt
#

also mogador leadship looks super weird when her skill goes off because your screen snaps to her new position PortDoll

boreal wagon
#

i believe that only happens if shes alone?

lament tree
#

Anyone here a must grab or can I get bischmark

whole crypt
#

let me try with other ships in tow

soft raft
whole crypt
boreal wagon
#

interesting but ig it makes sense

whole crypt
#

also the 2 ships didn't try to go all the way to where moggy jumped to

elfin hollow
boreal wagon
#

yeah they just attempt to move their at their normal speed (and respect boundaries)

whole crypt
#

it was kind of somewhere in the middle by the time moggy moved back

soft raft
whole crypt
#

which ship is this for, because you don't want roomba on a poor AA ship

elfin hollow
#

Roomba?

atomic abyss
#

twin 113=roomba

soft raft
elfin hollow
whole crypt
#

that's fine yeh

eternal basalt
#

Only put it on good AA ships, till you got sexy bofors

whole crypt
#

but +6 durability aux on a lv117 ship is kind of ehhh

elfin hollow
tame jungle
#

surely you got some purple parts left over right

whole crypt
#

sextuple suffers with range anyway, 15 is better off with mostly mixing roomba and rainbow ShiSleep

elfin hollow
#

The aa are good with these ships? (Minus the ungrading)

whole crypt
#

Jervis will want a faster gun

#

she falls under "low AA ships"

jaunty vault
whole crypt
#

yeh it's about AA not main gun PortDoll

elfin hollow
#

Would the twin 40mm works?

#

Or the american quad purple gun

jaunty vault
#

which twin40mm are you talking about

elfin hollow
#

Bofors

elfin hollow
jaunty vault
#

theres like 5 twin40mm bofors

#

and atleast two are golden

#

a picture would be appreciated

elfin hollow
#

Hazemayer

jaunty vault
#

right

#

and whats this for

whole crypt
#

just refer to this thing Ender posted earlier

jaunty vault
#

cause it its not for w13 or w15 then the AA gun on jervis doesn't matter

pliant acorn
#

Can you guys give a good build for mogador?

jaunty vault
#

a what?

whole crypt
#

a good what?

quartz breach
#

Are the new French torps from event store any good? Weird pattern.

Is Musashi's red skill barrage the strongest bb barrage atm? If not, who?

whole crypt
pliant acorn
#

*build my bad my badWhydahXD

whole crypt
#

if you have better HP auxes go ahead

#

goldburn should be good, I'm still contemplating on arctic report

eager mulch
#

+12 poverty BacheLaugh

elfin hollow
jaunty vault
#

yeah i understood when you said hazemeyer

tame jungle
#

i got a bunch of DR3 generals, FDG FS5 and Azuma D30. PR3 no ships developed yet besides The Cat so i do wanna dev them sometime soon for collection purposes if nothing else. should i hold on to them for drake or do i just say fuck it and convert to proto

elfin hollow
viscid swift
tame jungle
#

drake is also coinable right

viscid swift
#

yes

tame jungle
#

ok yeah then i'm just gonna convert to proto

whole crypt
tame jungle
#

those cores are going in the tenrai fund

elfin hollow
whole crypt
#

for which chapter, and damage isn't going to be her main contribution
with that vanguard you showed just now you're not going to be tackling ch13 hard or ch15 regardless of the AA guns used

wispy pendant
#

Is cv AA fleet tech worth working on for w15?

whole crypt
#

not really

crimson glacier
#

CV anti air dmg scales from avi not aa

wispy pendant
#

I was having trouble with w15-3 last time I tried and took a break

wispy pendant
whole crypt
#

AA only minutely reduces how much damage they take from planes

crimson glacier
#

dmg reduction like all ships

wispy pendant
#

Interesting

#

I guess I’ll keep working on cv avi tech

whole crypt
#

carriers in general already have high-ish AA, the tech isn't adding much
also you'll eventually end up leveling all carriers anyway if you level for tech

wispy pendant
#

What fleet tech is most impactful for w15?

whole crypt
#

if you need to tackle ch15 you should be looking at ships and gear first not tech

wispy pendant
#

K, I’ll give it a try again soon.

jaunty vault
#

cant single out one specific stat and say its more impactful

wispy pendant
#

I’ve been trying to focus on gold plates for planes

jaunty vault
#

everything matters

sharp token
#

is pamiat meta good?

#

i don't have any other option for cl so should i do her?

jaunty vault
#

never used her

#

is she like... your only CL you need for hard mode?

sweet delta
#

she is ok like helena meta and chapayev and random non-research good CLs

undone plover
#

I am trying to track the opsi first clear rewards for the zones

which portion is rng? everything on the map or the large chest at the end? to clarify i mean for gold plates mainly. can plates come from anything on the map or just the chest at the end?

elfin hollow
sharp token
soft raft
tame jungle
#

how many file zones were there again? 7? (nvm i got it i was right)

undone plover
#

well i meant the gold plates for the clear sans the cat nodes

quartz breach
soft raft
sharp token
eager mulch
#

100% hit rate big 7 CatFlex

tame jungle
soft raft
#

you do a series of missions and get a free selector UR gear lab design plan at the end of each

keen sable
tame jungle
#

so 5x the first row 4x the second and 1x the third

soft raft
#

note that these are one time purchases too, they dont refresh every month

tame jungle
#

pretty decent and doesn't require AP

sharp token
#

so if i get all 7 of them thats it?

tame jungle
#

yes, and then you're subject to opsi rng for the rest (and shops)

wispy pendant
#

Am I getting close? Am I missing rld and how much avi am i missing?

grizzled creek
#

Do I want to bug my first Sirius from this medal shop?

sweet delta
#

/wiki fleet tech

odd rootBOT
#
Azur Lane Wiki

Fleet Technology is a system that allows you to gather permanent stat bonuses for maximum limit break ships. Bonuses are earned by each shipgirl in two ways:

Direct stat bonuses.
Faction tech points. These are used to increase faction Tech Level, which also gives stat bonuses, cognitive chips and coin.
Collecting shipgirls and raising them to l...

sweet delta
grizzled creek
sweet delta
#

Yes

tame jungle
#

sure she's quite good

grizzled creek
#

Ok

wispy pendant
#

Nice, I haven’t noticed this table before. Was it added recently?

soft raft
#

it's been there for a very long time

wispy pendant
#

TIL

forest palm
#

EN Moment

eager mulch
#

has wiki updated opsi port shops yet

tame jungle
#

i'm pretty sure no

wispy pendant
#

Okay, according to this I should be able to do w15 if I have the right gear I think.

tame jungle
#

i checked voucher shop and loggers were missing + normal opsi shop only shows the "old" layout

elfin hollow
#

Whats a good aa gun for jervis

tame jungle
#

her AA is not stellar so just get her an accelerator

jaunty vault
#

best AA gun on her would be the UR twin57mm

soft raft
tame jungle
#

i was replying to the message above that

sweet delta
tame jungle
#

by turtle

soft raft
#

oh

tame jungle
#

that pregnant man was just not necessary man...

jaunty vault
#

you reap what you sow

meager gyro
#

do i switch out warspite or essex for alsace?

heady pier
#

should i farm event or go to 9-1 first

strong tartan
#

Warspite

meager gyro
#

well, goodbye warspite, thank you for your support along our way 😭

undone plover
#

get one more level on her for 2 BB acc BuckyPrideZoom

tame jungle
#

xp pack time

meager gyro
#

what should i change?

forest palm
#

Aux Gun, and AA Gun, and that's really all you need to change

tame jungle
#

(and upgrade your gun)

meager gyro
#

what for secondary?

viscid swift
#

swap the main gun to an Mk6, you'll still be dealing with light armor bosses

keen sable
strong tartan
#

155

meager gyro
cobalt rapids
#

Since goodbye warspite u can strip her

strong tartan
#

ew keep that Pom Pom though

forest palm
#

in descending order, the last one is where you have a good base

eager mulch
#

secret 155kai tech AmagiNom

forest palm
meager gyro
cobalt rapids
#

Keep 155

forest palm
#

top is the worst, bottom is the best NurnNom

meager gyro
#

can you farm hazemeyer blueprints? miau

forest palm
#

yes, by simply doing research projects

cobalt rapids
#

U farm em from research

eager mulch
elfin hollow
#

Wyvern is not good for operations siren boss ?

cobalt rapids
#

Conv are more dmg

meager gyro
dawn hamlet
#

Hi HelenaPeek what's the command for recommended ships to buy from the medal shop?

forest palm
keen sable
meager gyro
viscid swift
keen sable
dawn hamlet
#

I see, thank you guys DorkHeart

meager gyro
#

~~i could get a guaranteed 7th alsace in 109 builds bz_poger ~~

viscid swift
sweet delta
#

maybe the mods would care

meager gyro
#

dev 15 🥚ir good?

tame jungle
#

didn't we answer that question literally today

meager gyro
#

no

sonic hemlock
#

Should I replace NJ on my fleet 2? I know I should be using either Zwei or Soyuz instead, but I don't know if I wanna lose the 15% AVI on fleet 4.

forest palm
#

just move NJ to your mob fleet, simple NurnNom

cobalt rapids
#

I recc replacing the lesser ara from fleet 4

eager mulch
#

hamm2 not doing much there

sonic hemlock
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You mean Hammann II? Yeah I was considering replacing her with Laffey II as well.

wind hazel
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NimiWat no stopper?

sweet delta
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if you want to minmax like how you're considering NJ crossfleet, then you should also move Guam to a different fleet

cobalt rapids
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true where is nh2

sonic hemlock
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Oh right Kearsarge also has ARA, technically. EssexWheeze

sweet delta
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literally

sonic hemlock
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And well, my fleet 1 is my mob fleet right now, and I'm using it to level up my METAs' skills. I dunno if replacing FDG with NJ would be a good idea.

cobalt rapids
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More xfleets are a good idea

split ocean
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what party do i make

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i havent played since September

viscid swift
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I reccomend dropping Bismarck Zwei for a start

sonic hemlock
forest palm
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if you want to maintain the cross fleet, buff that's how it's gotta be

viscid swift
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considering that OpSi "mobbing" is more bossing oriented anyway

sonic hemlock
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Hm, true. I guess I'll replace Béarn with NJ once I'm done levelling up her skills, then, and replace NJ with Zwei.

forest palm
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This is my Mob Fleet, handles everything outside of Arbiters

heady pier
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is there an good way to spend money in this game? i was considering buying the BP but idk if its worth tbh

stark quiver
sonic hemlock
heady pier
half arch
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Just want to confirm one thing, as my mail is full will I receive the pending mails later on or that will be completely gone?

stark quiver
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so i got enough bulins to mlb, should i mlb alsace, mogador, uvh ? i left kornk out cuz dont need her

sonic hemlock
# sweet delta bench brest

Despite her healing? I feel like I'd rather bench Azuma, put Brest in her slot and put Guam on Fleet 3. Thinkpitz

viscid swift
sweet delta
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why heal on a boss fleet?

sonic hemlock
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Fleet 1 is my mob fleet.

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But yeah, you're right.

half arch
viscid swift
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ask the devs, luckily they added a new storage facility for coins and oil from mail

sweet delta
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yes, you should bench azuma before brest. Guam is in fleet 3 for AA and tank

sonic hemlock
sonic hemlock
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No need to hoard mail anymore except for maybe mail with Bulins.