#gameplay-help
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I don’t have either Bis or Tir, but I can get one from the medal shop. I was just going to use Graf or Strasser attached to my mob fleet and slowly grind out the exp, but I was led to believe that that would be a miserable adventure.
it seems that if the boss is at exactly (-15, 55), then haku top manages to barely scrape 3/8 hits. Flag is 2/8 and very forgiving if the boss is not at (-15, 55), and bottom is 1/8
Which BB u dont have from medal?
Tbh, I’d be just as happy adding Warspite to my roster.
So can sandy kai do the job?
only have hood and warspite
If u need KMS tech for FdG Bismarck/tirpitz is good
Not tech. Just the combat exp for development. Tech never hurts though. That goes towards Hinden and Agir.
what about ca?
still trying to farm exp for roon lol
ca i have takao and eugen
Usually doesnt matter much. Wait till later then get one of them if u have spare medals
Eugen is free from login
Hmm this is a bit different from what I remember it looking like, but maybe the boss was just in a different position, didn't pay too close attention.
U have 30 days. U dont need to do all of opsi today
Thanks for the Saratoga retro advice chat. What a huge upgrade it is
Cut me some slack, the asset rework means that bundles reference each other by some id instead of name now 
whats the function of opsi 4th fleet? usually
Depends on the player
who should i replace in my fleets to add in alsace
3 boss fleets 1 per armour type
If she's not MLB, replace nobody
assuming she is then?
im struggling to get past 10-1 rn
I can't assume that
You're failing 10-1 because you have no tank and probably very bad gear
am i missing a tank in my first fleet?
scylla cant tank
u dont leave it on auto?
, nvm its tutorial
Put Unzen or Portland there
hey guys quick question, are we supposed to get 5 x file loggers from the opsi exchange shop or just 1? I only got 1 this month but got 5 last month
file loggers are one time purchases
they dont refresh
ahhh
i dropped second alsace but i already have her mlb. should i just retire her or?
im thinking between anti light boss or just for cross fleet skill. what are some of the best ships for anti light boss anyway?
best anti light is usually yorkii + kear + implacable afaik
Kear + yorkii 
yea just retire since shes mlb
is the bearn copy from shop actually good for anything if it isn't the first copy?
it just converts to her lb crystals afaik
to mlb your 1st copy
no its just an overpriced crystal
any replacement for impla? im using her on 2nd fleet
so get the crystals instead
ty
Oh so it doesn’t give multiple crystals? Cringe…
AvP
enty if the boss is slow, otherwise august
once you get more crystals than needed to mlb, then all future crystals turn to meta shop currency
btw what I don't understand is that it says ap in opsi regenerates until 100. but why does it go up to 200 then
If u are still farming event dont get the crystals yet. U might get a copy and need to buy 1 less
is there a general guide to opsi fleet building? last I checked it was recommended to do BB/CV/flex/mob, but what's generally regarded as the best backline compositions for each?
last time I checked a few days ago it was every 10min until 100 or so, maybe they fixed it
yeah but we got 200 like years ago
lmao
slap some rainbows in the backlines for them
more rainbows in the vanguard fleet too
thats basically the gist of it now
similar concepts as before just more rainbow ships
what if u dont have rainbows? 
then make thread and post dock
Generally good are
BB: bisz plus any two of Alsace musashi vanguard Soyuz
CV: implacable plus shinano-haku or yorkii-kear
mob: unicorn plus anyone
sam can you make a fleet for me
I'm missing a few rainbows since I joined a little over a year ago, so vanguard/musashi (oof)/implacable and york2 i think?
i'll post a thread for specifics
sorry im busy gotta go now bye

😡
I think it says max 100 while being in story mode, I checked rn after beating ch4 and the map reset it doesn't say 100 anymore
are they gonna add again the 2 oath ring pack? for musashi bride skin update
i see
if i get an alsace dupe is the best thing to do 100% of the time just limit break? like no having her in 2 fleets or anything like that i assume right
i dont see a reason to have 2 of her
i dont either a friend is asking me but i dont wanna give him misinfo
unless you like wasting bulins
i saw a guy with 2 mlb musashi though
musashi is way better imo tho, and even her still doestn need 2
i was using this fleet for w14-2 boss, and i manage to beat it but only by a small margin. The flagship always almost dies. what am i doing wrong?
he had 2 copies of mlb oathed ship
thats just how 14-2 boss is
you could give your flagship evasion aux to help it avoid the shells
which of the 4 should i get first?
@late flame is there some precedence when they add bride skins, i havent played for very long to see it
yeah mass has 2 hit
Damn. I’m still sitting here deciding which medal shop ship to get myself. Biscuit is the better standalone IB ship right? Tirp is weak without Biscuit? Or do I have that backwards.
I’m just planning on sticking one into a mob fleet to farm FdG points.
And both are better than Graf and Strasser.
Different hulls and different uses, however graf is the one that stands the best on her own 2 legs of the 4 mentioned.
Oh. Dang it. So if I’m just sticking a ship into a general mobbing fleet, Graf is the best drop in? Because then I could get my first copy of Warspite… I don’t really have a particular interest in the others outside of farming combat exp.
I wouldn't just drop in one ship, that way cdc is gonna take forever
And Warspite is kinda bad especially for her cost
Why not just take bismarck to pair her up with strasser and zeppelin?
Okay. So I have Graf and Strasser, which means Biscuit because she buffs IB ships?
Then go ahead with bismarck
I'd probably use Bisko Strasser Tirp cuz Graf only has AA tech if I had the choice out of the four
Okay. I can’t do Tirp because I have to choose between her and Biscuit.
But Bisko Graf Strasser would be the strongest main fleet from those 4
iirc he only has the choice of only bisko or tirp
since its med shop
Ye then Bisko
do i move onto raising UR vanguard ships once all backline is done? i already have a fair amount and feel like my vanguard is lacking in dmg.
it is normal for vangards to lack damage though
will there be a rerun for challenge mode?
do go ahead, do save some purins for upcoming ur backlines
Ye, it seems to work on a yearly cycle
most relevant vanguards are tanks, AA carries, buffers or debuffers
there are very few DPS heavy ones like Unzen/Hinden
when was the 1st challenge mode?
wait, are we going full circle on the new challenge mode?
i forgot to do may 
its so hard
that i just left it to clear it at the end of the month
so ships like mog/shima are pretty low on priority?
yes
Guam and Laffey II place higher as a result
kron is also lower on prio cos agir does the tank job better for the most part, and guam can tank AND aa
Is it worth it to buy siren data logger?
if you can stand manualling each node and don't mind losing 5k oil, sure
Who do I put the Musashi gun on if I don’t have Musashi
if i have mog(lb0), laffey ii (lb0), shima (lb2), kron (lb0) and nano (lb0), the priority would be something like this?
nano > laffey ii > shima > mog > kron?
between these two, which on is better?
all rerun for challenge mode starts this month correct?
roughly equal but the one on the right is farmable
yeah
in this case, would laffey ii / nano 's performance be worth more than the fact that shima is already lb2?
What do I do with the spare points at this point? I swear they haven't updated it such launch
my issue is that you probably won't use shima much
i mean, one can be bought with Cores and the other in PR5 research. just wondering which one is "cheaper"
laff II can be used as a tank, aa carry in both w13-15 an opsi
nano will be used in opsi and CV teams in general
shima will probably only see use in w14 and ari meta
then probably the research one
nothing then
so which gear recc is similar to mogador? i refer to slaimuda guide
oh also alsace, since we have alsace soup
alsace takes the same gear as soyuz
Shima will also be in perma at some point. With the rate of new UR release having the older UR on backburner to LB w perma pity dupes would help u catchup faster
mogador should be compared to Laffey II FOR GEAR
standard dd loadout but use a fire extinguisher as second aux, can follow javelin
alsace uses standard bb loadout as well, follow zwei or smth
Nano probably the only one worth MLB fast from the first 4 released UR
yes, i mean gear
laffii has eu gear requirement
need felp making OpSi fleets. kinda lotta ships. taking time to upload.
Already done last year, what do I get for doing it again?
but, we can use the UR Event DD gun on her?
for mogs? yes
ok then zwei
mogador can follow javelin or laff 2 
does this make laffey II = nano in performance? theyre both lb0
not laff2
no, they do completely different things
though the torpedoes the Event or the white normal torp? don't still have the Magnetic one
Laff2 if u wanna tackle 15.
Nano if not imo
oh, sry
nano is all in damage
laff is tank/aa
nano?
Shinano*
When does one start worrying about subs?
either work
i mean in like usability. like how often they used
campaign 14+ subs help, how much they help depend on how weak your fleet are
*you dont need subs to clear any content
okay, so i'll continue to give a damn about them for now, thanks
Also dont invest in random subs. When u wanna start working on subs grab u96 from medal shop if available and u37 from merit. Last one pray for u47 u81 in gacha pulls.
nano shd take higher prio than laff ii tho
New here. Which banner should I save for?
dang, when i read mogador def skill, we get bonus for specific faction gear 
roll the event banner till you get the UR
then stop
mogador fixed?
Pull the event and pray. After event do 1 light per day and start saving for new UR/ HMS Vanguard rerun
How many cubes can a beginner like me farm in a week?
guys my smiley is a little rusty so please elaborate
event is going on for another 1.5 weeks but
the amount of cubes a new player gets is the same as an old player
i think it's about 30 a week?
i can't remember
yes she is fixed
30!? i'm definetly doing something wrong
40~50 give or take
But not very high prio for UR bulins
there you go then
Alsace first
jesus
any chance you guys can tell me where they come from?
weekly+daily missions
you get guarnateed 168 cubes a month if you just login and do your missions, rest are from commission RNG and events/shop
+login mission
Why pull 1 light per day?
daily mission
you receive 1 cube back so don't worry
didn't miss one day of dailies and feels no where close to 40 a week
you also build into the UR pity.
skill issue tbh
if you get 50 and spend 50, of course you won't notice much 
Pulling perma is useless. Events share pulls with perma banners. Light pull costs 1 cube so cheapest way to save more coobs
Gotcha
i suppose one can do wishing well but..
wishing well is fake
is it?
Wishing well in the middle of a ur event is asking to be screwed over
no
just do dailies on light wishing well when you get the UR lol
i got both my wishing well light 😎
so what you're trying to say is that after the event banner i'll actually be able to save some up?
33 is guarenteed per week even for old players (I dont remember if newbies got extra
)
U are likely to get ~2 cubes per day if active on commissions. Although as new player u might not have the best commissions yet
yes, you get at least 3 per day net positive, if you only do 1 Light a day
You could argue wishing well during EN anniversary, but then there's also the problem of it being a month away from JP anniversary
that depends on the decisions you make 
resource management lane
have been doing 3 a day for the event mission, now shit makes sense
But u got one of the best ships in game for doing that so it is worth.
yeah 3 light a day is +1 a day, you won't notice the increase
is there a prio what to get out of the supply shop?
After alsace probably do 1 per day now. No need to do 3 just for 300 tokens
what supply shop, shiranui shop?
opsi voucher shop
okay
get what you need
siren coords and hidden zone coords (if you can clear the high level ones)
I don't need anything out of it lmao
get what you want
you can always go back to it if you want to buy anything
alr, what are these classified loggers for
ooh
so 5x the first one, 4x the 2nd one and guaranteed UR crafting thing iirc
guys how do i unlock the SP mode ._.
U dont need to do all 6 in one month tho unless u wanna rush a wyvern. They dont restock so one time only
D map
click, clear D
you can't even rush them
get the meta frags before adapts, anything you need/want overrides priority
trying farm exp for roon, so shigure has to go. i did get garf spee from the guild shop, but is there a better and more worthwhile ship i can get for this?
wait or can you actually?
clear all the map?
yes, clear all D
😭

aight thanks bro
sp is really hard so if you have problems beating d maps there is no need to rush. but generally d3 is the best map to farm anyway
still have the summer invite, and the newbie ship choices
can i post my dock here?
Check pins but also u can just hold on and not use it if u dont want to
Make a thread
It's advised to make a thread since it'll clog up the chat
oh was asking because i have no clue if there are any worthwhile ironblood vanguard ships in there that i can invest in instead of graf spee for roon exp
idk how to make it tbh
5k oil for this, what is this though?
or are any of the 2 prinze euguens a good option?
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Grap spee is fine for roon cdc. She gives fp tech at 120.
Ugh, so what do you do when you run out of oil, serious question
okay
touch grass
touch some grass
I touched a lot of them this entire day friend, I’m just back to do daily 
There is also mail oil in storage but ppl usually keep that for emergencies
It kinda says in the description, but basically it means you can auto all explorable zones and have access to all of them and don't need to use recon on them
is it worth to buy?
1.spam opsi
2.wait faster spend money (not advisable unless well, whale)
logger is good if you not super active
YMMV
personally i find its worth the while since i'm lazy 😛
Do you abhor having to click through all the explorables manually? Then yes absolutely
Do yall think I can get the other mogador before the event ends? I cleared SP today
well i'm active but i have 20k oil so
Easily, but why did you spend like all your points on the vouchers...
the event clear 19-6-2024?
I really wanted mogador and I thought it was the only way to get the vouchers...besides missions
U only needed 160 shop vouchers for the mog dupe
I think the shop clears on the 19
How 
rn is 1 june dude
why did you ignore her gun
xd
just grind more 
I dont know when the event stages clear tho
12th
tbh same 😄
12th, shop always lasts 1 week longer than event
I can get the gun once I get the dupe
But u did miss one day of SP so it would have been 165 for u. Did you pull the event ships? There are challenge missions that give 10 vouchers for using them on d3
Yes already done that
or b3, which is way easier
So I should just stop grinding vouchers now and focus on getting the gun?
So u bought 200 and got 60 only from dailies? What about the mini game?
I did the mini game too daily
Tf kinda question, might as well ask why cheating isn't allowed. Talking about it is against ToS as well btw
Did u waste vouchers on gold? 
I got normal mogador and then nothing else from shop I think...
Oh I see u got 1 copy already I am dumb 
Yeah just clear SP. there is 12 more days that is 60 vouchers
Yes, I also have some ur bulins but am waiting to raise her, dunno if its worth
You get vouchers from clearing sp? (Its my first time clearing it)
Alsace higher prio. After that save bulins until u have 4 and come ask again who to MLB
But even with 70 pts from SP there has to be 10 more vouchers somewhere no? 
wait do we get a new CM this month I'm forgetting
5 per day up to 70* total
no
its a repeat of washi sodak
oh right they repeat
I have Alsace mlb and no other ur, 4 bulins
what comps were used again
BiZ

oh right okay
Tho I saw she was bugged or sum? So dunno if mogador might be the right ur to mlb, even if I only have these 2
so should i be using mogador now? even if she ain't MLB?
like do i need her to get the most out of brennus, Alsace and her?
In general backline ships have a bigger impact.
U should get enough bulins to MLB both vanguard and new Sep UR.
Only other thing is u can keep your bulins for shinano when u pity her eventually but that will take some time.
Up to u really how u wanna spend it.
When vanguard? Ill save bulins for her then
Alsace is fine without mog. Dont use mog if not MLB
okay
There is no confirmation but she is the second event in line to rerun after rondo event
Also tysm for the help
Ive been asking so many things here

I am hesitant to say MLB mog just cause idk how high she ranks and ppl still testing.
If she ends up being slightly better than a ddg then u might wanna hold bulins for shinano.
Probably wait a few more days before u invest in her
I see, will do
in any event, imo prio for MLB is always backline > tank > rest
This is my Sub fleet, should I replace RF with other SS?
yes. RF is not really suitable
Full wolfpack, or full American, is what you want.
this are my SS
u47 will do
maybe I can wolf pack with U556 meta being the lead
u556m is not part of wolfpack btw
Maybe buy Albacore from the shop? 
Oh well U-47 have her Unique equipment anyway so just leveling her
.... stil don't have snorkel though
which one is best to get here? amagi?
is there a way to decide which ships are worth lvl 125? i dont have alot of arrays (like 1500)

what alsace skill to level first?
also here?
Ships you use a lot, ships you use in bossing/mobbing.
Anyone else have an issue with morale recovery only updating by relogging?
why does the damage vary so much
no for me
rodney meta
IIRC if you have Hood anything you can get from there is pretty much only for Fleet Tech
The CAs are all kinda bad
Helena thing
Which one better. Only shimanto dev 30
Oh well got Helena meta
which has higher main gun dmg? voro or helena
I'd always go face myself when trying to finish ships
I'd take grant because shorter 
(but Idt my research choices are necessarily best practice
)
also fair chance for UR gun
I hate taking gold PRs but also i still dont know how much to expect from grant donation 
What is your goal? Do you want Flandre prints or would you rather have a stab at some gear (and a different face)
I want series 6 faster. I think I am on pace for hinden gun
Ye that is true
G4 is your choice for better stab at the UR gun ye
For just finishing the ships the face is better
check thread please finally got the fleet uploaded
Yeah I do that too unless DR
hmmmn I want a honest answer, does my main fleet can clear W13
13 isn't a high bar to clear if you know what you're doing
take the shortest duration imo
Ok will take the grant
Me too, but that's just cuz I wanna refresh into UR faces if I can, there's not rly that much a difference on time efficiency if you don't wanna refresh into sth else
Actually wait there is a 1.5 grant as well
The main point of taking shorter refreshes is to get a new selection faster
Or are they just bad?
I'd take 4hr over 1.5, 1.5 is more of a refresh with a chance for gun
Ok 4h it is
Tbh I think out of G 4h, D 8h and G 1.5h G 4h is the worst when all you care about is ship prints of any sort, but not sure, lazy to open stats
Are the stats still there? I thought the site is dead
do i buy the 5000 oil opsi data logger
Are the file loggers in opsi worth buying
Only if u cba to manual it. Otherwise not worth it
Recon is free so nah
it depends on how much time and attention you want to spend on OS
Yes but u dont need to buy them all in one month. They are one time. Get the coords first
Oh thats why the rewards are golds 
especially for newer player who don't know what they want to max out of OS logger is fine, as long as you're not really actively grinding hard to want that 5k oil as well
theres no zones that i can take
you need to start at a port
lyoko is dead yes
augh so i have to clear everything again
yes, so you get all the first clear loot again
anyway like I said, unless you know what you're doing with OS and really want to save that oil, logger is fine to use
I just realised that the challenge mode has reset back to the first one, is there any point in doing it? It says I already have the rewards so
clearing gives you coins I guess
How many?
like 1-2k for getting the frame again
2k per stage I think?
Ig it's worth just reclearing for the coins then, better then nothing
if it's going to be idle time anyway then just throw together the fleet again and let it do its thing
Btw is it because the enemies in loggers are strong or my adaptive is shit?
47k hp siren for lvl 98 fleet is quiet crazy
the classified loggers are one time, when you clear it doesn't really matter
you won't want to run into an abyssal with that anyway
What happens if that occur
if what occur? classified loggers you can just take your time to clear
abyssal you'll just waste the abyssal if you can't kill and lose loot
Oh 
it's the start of the month, take some time to level your fleets and get some adapts in before you push anything high corrosion
Yeah i guess but is it possible for my fleet to bust some dmg against zombie arbiters
Its annoying to deal with the healing
there are no zombie arbs
they mean the enforcers
Yeah that i think
ideally you want to shape your fleets in a way you can kill abyssals regardless of what mods they come with
just take some time clear zones get adapts and level fleet
No like uhh i got like every adapts 200 above but i can't beat a cors 5 enforce with that healing mod ( previous month )
That's why it's important to check what gimmicks the boss has
For strongholds, abyssals etc
some bosses are just a DPS check, if you cant beat them, just leave and stop wasting your time
I don't like wasting the cords but alright 
wtf did you do to get 200+ adapts on day 1
( previous month )
well you have to do it again this month, and level your fleets
will anchorage be mob or boss fleet?

Yes opsi is a monthly thing
Depends honestly
Most likely boss if you don't have anything better
anchorage is a boss tank
any tank that can boss tank can also mob tank
said by samheart564 or someone idk
strongholds you can just zombie, and if you can't beat a zombie stronghold boss you're seriously lacking
abyssals don't really make a huge difference in the sense you can't check before you enter and you can't magically increase your damage if you simply aren't strong enough
only 1,6 million xp to go 
if you saw a zombie enforcer after entering an abyssal zone and choose to half ass it that's a different issue
not enough mood 
At the risk of sounding stupid what happened to the proto core shop?
nothing
its in the monthly tab
good for you. just finished monarch. i have no iron blood ships to start working on roon
along with medal and other monthly shops
Yeah mines only showing core ltd and medal which is unusual
dev XP isn't a thing once you do your grinds in 11+, unless you don't have dorm slots
It's not unusual if you haven't restarted the game after monthly reset

how do i farm medals fast?
event D3
you just play and retire higher rarity ships
Just play the game
Retire blue and purple ships
And repeat
also it's the first day of a month, please don't tell me you're in a rush to buy medal shit
Wouldn't be surprised
i want bismarck 
On a side note
Didn't know the game let you stay in opsiren even after reset
Why would you want that trash tho
Ib tech?
Always has been tho 
I'm not counting how many times people here would have told you not to rush shit
shes cute
I'm not counting how many times people here would have told you not to rush shit
You haven't seen Bismarck Zwei then
I went into reset with 1400 AP
I managed to use up all of them 
I tried it, you only get 2k from clearing the easy stage then nothing for the other 2
what is that even? just saw that today
I still have 500 ish leftover ap and I'm still in opsi
, gonna finish em up once I'm home 
Challenge mode
guess the new frames don't give additional coin then, thanks for trying :v
what does it give me
nothing because chances are you can't beat it
Just a chat frame
I can't emphasize enough how patience is a virtue for a game like AL 
Hmm sounds like a bug to me tbh. Or more like an oversight from the devs, probably like "Ah we can just put in a reward for getting the hard frame twice next year when we get there" and then never doing it
u were right
what do you usually do with the common ships you finished leveling?
i need to free dockspace, but is there a way to get back exp or i can only either retire or enchance?
there's no way to recover any of that investment, if you need the space and can't buy it then 
and what people "usually" do with finished commons depends on the player, collectors keep everything anyway
thanks
i put them in my basement
#al-general is that way
event ends in 1 week right? (next thursday) or the following one (the next next thursday)
have you tried looking at the date on the banner
may 9th
Is Saratoga’s augment worth it? She fully retro atm
the ingame banner
can't, am grinding
I read your name as Greta thunberg
check when you're taking a break then
Crossover we never needed
first time I'm (not) seeing it in action on my rally account 
at what level can i use 🥚ir
eggir
does that meme still exist here?
D20 at bare minimum
25 ideally since she'll be as tanky as she gets
should i retire Dupe Ur?
if MLB yes
If your original copy is MLB
Yes
idk
oki ty
Agir is a rather potent tank even before 25 if your options are bad
you can start using as early as you want for grinding XP/affinity
my 🥚ir is currently dev 13? and level 105ish 
for the sake of leveling you can use her whenever, just don't expect her to be a good tank before 25
btw should i put San Diego on Mob or Boss Fleet? (w15)
heyya, can you share your OpSi fleet?
If retro
Anywhere that needs more AA
I mean it depends on what you have at the end of the day
ok put in fleet where it suffers more from plane damage
I would personally use for mob because she can also fill ASW if it's -3 and -4
I mean we can, but would you be able to replicate it though 
We don't know what stage of the game you're at
wanna ask,i should stop rolling on UR banner when i get the rate up UR?
Yes you should stop then
ok thx
does some pr/dr ship require fate sim lvl5? to be used?
ah don't mind it, im curios bout other player OpSi fleet form
Bearing in mind these are the CA/BB ships I currently have what should I go for with medals this month?
something for tech or just none of them
Alright. I’m cool with just getting bulins and cores
who is this?
Bremerton
oath skin bremerton
ohh ty
thanks, bunch of beautiful skins, anyway how does bearn meta perform? 42k points, still 0...
is the faction synergy of Alsace important? do I just run her with Mogador always?
So whats the priority for the exchange shop in opsi
just another SR carrier, she's only there because I bother leveling skills
No
Alsace can live without moggy but moggy wants Alsace
coords that you can clear first
No to both questions I presume?
Alsace is self-sufficient, with/without another french ship
Should I hold kid ships_? I don't see any value atm
Alsace without french vanguard you'll just need to learn to time
up to you none are meta and none add fleet tech
Sounds like waste of dock slots
I hold them cause I can always buy dock space
But a lot can't, and they're a waste of space imo
can you explain why? I don't see Moggy wanting a french main fleet 
who between laffey 2, guam, soyuz and alsace should take priority?
collectors be collectors 
Whichever one is closest to MLB ig? 
imo soyuz if u need a strong BB
Alsace buffs moggy
an unbuffed moggy may have alternatives
Alsace's S2 just needs a french vanguard where JdA or Brest comps also work
also depends on where you want to use the two
actually Alsace can go without French vanguard as well, you'll just need to time her
Alsace's skill 3 is cross fleet right? so Moggy doesn't need to be in her fleet specifically? just in the same sortie?
all of them are at the same lol, no bulin spent yet and i can mlb one (almost two)
are all your other URs maxed out and are you done with w15
I couldn't decide who will be my main BB still, I'm between NJ, FDG or Alace
not done with w15 and yea
you could use them in separate fleets for that I guess, like I said it depends on the whole setup
wait no there's also uvh in that list lol and the new one from the shop event ijabfsdjkadsf
thanks!
that's what happens when you login only for event pull
id probably do soyuz and then guam or laff2 ig
imo soyuz, since u have a dupe of her
i was thinking of not using the dupe tbh
depends on u : D
i feel like ur dupes could eventually be useful
well its your game
yea, will do soyuz first then and then laffey i suppose since i dont have shima
thanks
also speaking of Brest... how does she compare to Agir for a BB fleet?
alsace may or may not be better than soyuz 
o
Brest is like the 2nd tankest CB iirc
brest is more of a mob tank while agir is more of a boss tank
are there still analysis going on about her? i can wait
Is San Francisco better than Prinz Heinrich?
Sanfran tankier assuming tank mode
indeed
how do you know
I've used both and compared both since 2021 
If you don't trust me so much just ping around mebot.
Franny is just tankier, it's that since Heinrich is comparable that Heinrich could take the tank slot, while Franny could just go on offense 

SF is slightly tankier for tank slot
first time experiencing post-OpSi reset and I've been doing the green icons all around the map (dailies)
now I exhausted all my AP, is it recommended to refresh to clear those remaining dailies? (I have four left)
Nope you just wait for your AP to recover naturally tbh
the dailies will carry over right? I believe in a certain amount. also does the AP recovery items have something else better to spend on?
I also get nothing, when collecting them
Yes dailies can stack, although limited. Also wdym by AP recovery items? 
did you just button smash during the tutorial or something
the items you get to recover AP (rn I have 50 times to regenerate 20 AP)
Do you mean the AP boxes?
Ohhh those well you can use em tbh, or you can save em to spam C5 zones near the end of the month. Up to u if u wanna use it 
ohh I see. aightt thanks
guys is foch meta good for play?
Mate she has not even been out for a day
collection
aight
as a rule of thumb cruise META bad
But Foch meta hot tho 
But yeah Def collection 

I assume Foch META still has the same tech stat as the original 
Is this good-
it's an in between if you're waiting for a Wyvern
i have one URin,who to spend on?
Me with my barracudas 
Parallel TB is... Barracuda → Skypirate/VIT → Wyvern/Spearfish
how bout waiting till you have 4 then decide
that would be the most logical choice, yes
but that doesn't change what is choosen among these
maybe yamato will be out by then
How is my Shinano doing so little damage consistently
Gear, lb or level issue
there could be a multitude of reasons
Should i replace enterprise to illustrous?
Nope looks fine here
Implacable almost always does more damage than my nano
does wyvern also outperform converging torps (in situations where you'd use a converging torp setup)
in campaign, sure, but it depends, most times no
Do Guam + Laffey a better combo than Brest + Shimanto for 15-4?
why are you running flapjack on shinano
What should I be running?
another TB

when you can run another torp bomber for heavy or rocket fighter for med/light in that slot
Won't that make her much slower?
not really...
Another b7a?
play around with ryuusei/junkers/saiun
and get your implac to match your shinano+haku
beacon/manjuu also exist
Hakuryuu is technically the slowest CV among those 3 either way...
how many designs was wyvern again, 9?
The answer is no by the way
You get 2 k coins for clearing easy mode if you already had the reward
But if you clear normal and hard mode and have the reward already from last year, then you get nothing. Not even coins. You are just getting nothing
So... extreme challenge mode hence has no worth or interest for me now any longer... great fun for a year aaand done and gone hence!
Do Guam + Laffey a better combo than Brest + Shimanto for 15-4?
Guam AA so good
what UR gacha came after krons?
Vanguard

You probably want so split them
About 15-4 boss fleet. What kind of comp should I running? 1 BB 2 CVs or 2 BB and 1 CV as a healer ?
1 BB 2 CVs for both fleets
For you mob fleet, you ideally want unicorn retro and Aquila/Volga for them
Which mini event
The old ones?
All of them give skins
Except one which gives a submarine
Which you definitely don't need at this point
Is shimanto a good dps ship? Or is she just support?
Wait, can I return to the old UI? The new UI feels fresh but, it hurts my head.
Is this yes to the first question?
Good dmg but her aa mode sacrifices for support coz maingun req
w14 fleet recs for auto?
So she a good dps unit when equipped with plygun for example?
... so just slap all rainbows in it?
Mostly
U can copy the fleets in /w15 and replace 155 aux guns on bb with 155kai
And sandy with ancho
Or just open thread and post dock
ill do this then, thanksss
is the event is 12more days? just wanted to know how many ur vouchers u get passively
im sitting at 145 atm
need 300 for 2nd copy
And one gives furniture... where's my Belfast skin??
Yup, till 13th
wait the dailies vouchers is capped? 
Doesn't seem like it 
idk i see it in pinned
Event Daily Missions - 5 vouchers/day (capped at 70 vouchers/event)
Still going though
okay so i'll probably not have 300 by dailies
just wanted to know if i need to keep farming
Might be a dumb question but, Jintsuu's skill affect Tai Yuan’s missiles?
Hi I just started today and I feel overwhelmed with the event stories and I want to get more gear. is it best to buy the boxes from the supply store for them?
Errr I think just play the event and get the gear box from there yes but prioritize the UR gun n torps BTW also try to get Mog
^
Hi, if I accidentally used prototype bulins on enhance instead of limit break, can customer service help revert that?
Nope
how u even done that in the first place
Nope
who's mog?
The UR DD in the shop
I was outside doing the limit break , thought I was in lb and accidentally click enhance
oh i see
oh well thanks for the information, at least it's just one copy of brennus and 1 sr bulin not the UR's
tru
im gonna lock all the bulins now
whats isuzu drop rate
We dunno
i finally just got yuudashi 
God knows
i think it took me over 200 runs 
only one confirmed is the fox sisters but others we dunno
but cant isuzu drop from mobs
is Graf Zeppelin a good ship? i just randomly picked her out of the others for the early summer gift
No
i really don't know who's good or not
She can

normal cm doesnt give anything if you did it already last year?
Yep
Nope
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
You mean want to refer to this
i got gold from easy, nothing from hard too?
???
CM
Oh CM, challenge mode?
Ye
ah ic ty end
Does anyone else still use Jeanne d'Arc in Opsi?
I mean I do ig 
I use her very often
If you have issues with clearing strongholds she can be useful 
Right now my main Opsi fleet for auto is: Richelieu, Alsace, Joffre, Brest, Jeanne and Mogador. Jeanne completely nullifies the one weakspot Mogador has I've noticed (shield procs at 10 seconds and lunge at 12 sec)
Personally I keep her in my Frenchies fleet
But hmm
Maybe I shd try Mog with Jeanne myself
same
Unfortunately no burins 
What's the impression for Mog?
am still waiting if I can get her 2nd copy
Jda is 10s then 20
Mog is every 12s so itll only work on first proc
Gun Shimakaze
CN tested the hell out of her. She has comparable survivability to Hindenburg as well as damage output. They wanted her to be as tanky as Laffey II which is why they put her in Tier 0 rather than EX. She's basically Shimakaze only gun-focused rather than torp focused
good ol CN 🪄
Wait why did they compare her with Hindy?
pretty much in CA we have hinden and unzen. In DD we have mogador and shimakaze. DPS grup
Should I?
Just finish her
Aren't we all comparing her to Hindy?
Damage output comparisons, at least
Why wouldn't you compare her with hindy for gun dps at least
huh mog is as good as hindy?
Her damage allegedly is as good
can't wait to max her out
Mog will probably be the preferred choice on light 
No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy 
Just imagine tho
Bis Zwei with Hinden
Alsace with Mog and Brest
the new UR gun really make her shine. the UR gun is just that great

Would you prefer gun over torp?
Depends on fight
Is it possible to get 75 of those ur exchange before event ends in a new acc
easily
Brest is surprisingly tanky. Not sure how or why since she doesn't come with heavy armor like Agir
with some effort
Ok ty
you should read her skills... and stats
heavy isn't automatically better
Something something Germans and their obsession with heavy armour tbh
She doesn't need heavy armor either , in fact heavy armor is a detrimental in late game campaign
Agir will have issues the moment the boss spams torps or plane ordinances
Other CBs are medium?
Ye
Tho for plane ordinances I suppose Guam would do better than Brest anyways
Yes
by far, which cb have toughest stats?
Agir is the best for most intents and purposes
wdym tough lol
Chonkiest
Can I win a3 with this fleet
just try it
remove four ships and still win. well maybe 3 to be safe
Ok
Of course. Guam is an anti-air specialist among CBs. Agir is for survivability and utility, Kronshtadt is for raw damage. No idea what Brest's exact niche is other than being an amazing tank for the French fleet
That's still a awful fleet though 
Brest can heal her fleet, I'd say that has nifty utility in some contexts
That's a new acc bro

Yeah my 1 hour acc will have a better fleet 
and whoo is it awful for a alt acc
Me noob u pro
I just wanna get Mogador in another acc
she got that heal skill, makes her better in multiple fights and close to agir in terms of tanking
Even if it's new acc you should be using your unicorns and portlands , idk why you want to use a Indianapolis of all ships
doesnt change that you have indianapolis instead of portland
I got a Unicorn from guild but don't have it leveled up

thats why you would bring her
to get her levels
But won't she die mid game
good thing removing 4 ships, adding 1 ship(unicorn) works on a3
it's a3 not a meat grinder
she'll be fine
is it recommended to get 2 copies of alsace?
wt are the ur ships that are recommended to get 2 copies of then?
none of them
mogador and laffii currently
Me who did...
bearn meta and u-556 meta also i would say
Ok noted
ok thanks
Not them though, it's a bit misleading since they might think to buy the 8k copies instead of their crystals
is there any reason to get the 8k copy if you already have her?
no
ah nice, i'll keep going for the crystals then 🙂
you have a compulsion against using crystal fragments for something farmable?
The 8 copy just gets transformed into a crystal anyway
Hi im a new player, is there a way to auto sortie with 2 fleets or it must be done with one? it seems to always select my strongest fleet in every battle instead of using my mob fleet and then a boss fleet
check your auto sortie settings
There's a Role button
new player. 2 fleets. something doesnt compute
oh i see i did not know those settings existed ty
its my 3rd day playing, but i've been watching guides and have a lot of experience with gacha games
youtube guides suck
imagine following kimocheese
if u have played e7 before it is the same here more or less
I'm curious actually, but what's wrong with Kimo? 
Questionable advice, more or less. Also some of his takes are meh
2-1 in 2024, who does that
2-1 in... fleet comp?
for getting more cubes lol
the stage
stage
Wtf.
urgent comms spawn due to attacks. Just do your attacks on oilcapped stages and/or OpSi farm
they'll come naturally if you do it that way
yeah im not gonna lie the youtube stuff i found on this game was very confusing and didn't explain some basic things
might work for new players 
if the context is unclear we can't judge on this person based on this advice alone right ?
its garbage advice for any point in the game
TL;DR AL youtube guides are 99% outdated, trash, or combination of both
comet over tenrai that is something...
jp guides aren't
funnily enough, just playing the game rivals that strat alone. Just play the game normally instead of hyperfocusing on one resource you'll hoard later on
This has to be satire, right? 
JP has guides? 
you dont want to scuff ur progress by just staying in 2-1
it's kimo being kimo
imagine watching jp when we already have issues reading EN
i mean for a situation where someone joined a limited event like this one currently ongoing
still progressing normally is better than trying to get alsace from commissions
?
The Saratoga retro better main or boss fleet?
usually mob
Both. She finds greater use in mob fleets
works for both for usually mob
if u couldnt get her, might as well wait for next UR in about 3 months tbf rather than wasting ur resources and time
you arent guaranteeing more cubes, you are just throwing oil at something that you might not get
Cool she felt flexible so wasn’t sure I was missing something
and they're going to get a rerun in the future
sara does want her aux in addition to retrofit, which might be a bit expensive to craft (but well worth it, imo)
you also gimp your progress doing so. Literally being unporductive at everything else when playing the game gives you the majority of all resources
and if you didn't get Alsace either way, deal with it. Focus on getting cubes for future URs then
2-1 is only for lategame players who've got nothing better to do than to cope for urgent comms
and i'd rather spend that oil on w12 kek
I'd rather be leveling the remaining fodder I have
top tier ngl
Yeah I just got a stack of coins and did fork out for it and got her fully retro today
his language alone is as garbo as it can be so yeah this kind of content must be avoided at any cost 
can't imagine they're anything worse than what qyuate, and kimo put out
guess I just don't look for the guides then, the wiki is shit
do drop rates for commons/uncommons increase in map difficulty?
we have no clue what map droprates are so no idea
for example is it better to farm isunu in 15-1 or 7-3
basically no though

one is harder than the other. Are you sure you can realistically farm the former stage just for an Isuzu?
higher worlds just because the other drops are so much better
better to farm in 14-3 for those cogs
drop rates aren't affected by what you think they are 
I'd farm 15-1 because it has oilcap
the jp wiki main issue should be the layout which is the main issue in all jp wikis
the content there is respectable i didn't find any controversial information just yet 
im missing a few farmable characters left
thats kinda why im farming it
getting closer to 100%
So whom to use and whom not to use for fleet
there's seriously outdated and not really useful recs
they also don't show coeff
Amagi, Unicorn, Hiryuu, Portland, Helena, Laffey. Anyone you don't have, buy from Guild Shop.
starter where (nvm i'm blind)
Hello is there an guide to where to farm specific items? i need to find retro item for portland but cant find a specific one with good rng
cruiser bp drops on X-2H maps
No fate simulation need a little help
gold bp drops on 3-XH or higher only
there isnt one
Agir has no FS yet
whats best for T2 cruiser?
not yet champ, it'll be for a while
Okay thanks
always highest map you can do and craft up
if you mean retrofit prints cruiser prints drop from hard mode x-2 maps, the higher you can do the better because core data, we don't have print drop rates
hmm alright thank you
this is the starting out guide 
also in the welcome page they stated that they are cooperating with cn wiki too
link me this wiki you're using
I thought so
typical Japanese web pages with annoying UIs, and no one cares cause they just bookark the relevant pages...
GBF moment
I'm less than concerned about the UI
they might have fixed some shit up in the past 2-3 years but it wasn't great when I used them like 5 years ago
Instead of user interface it's user interruption
When is musashi oath skin available again
what is brest's main role in a fleet just to tank or to do damage like hindenburg? same question for kronstadt also
I still don't get why they don't show weapon coeff
after next maint likely
Aight
what does weapon coeff mean
?
coefficient
Weapon coefficient
Extra modifier that is inherent to the weapon, and is increased when you raise it past +10
oh u mean the damage modifier ?
TLDR : extra damage
Ye, the thing called "Damage Modifier" in the game
Whats the best thing to spend prototype core on? Aside for the rainbow gun blueprints
Chappy gun
Chappy gun?
that's champagne gun
Champy gun
so +13 is 24% or what based on what nntktt linted above
?
for pr3 research prints
it's localized as Triple 406/50
Whats the gun name?
This thing
chappy is often referring to chapayev, i.e. this gun that's not in proto prints
In the case of the three listed there, ye
124%, or 1.24
From a +10 coefficient of 105%, or 1.05
oh so the value changes based on the gear rarity ?
every gun has its own coeff stat, how much it goes up by depends on the base eff when you enhance past +10
/protocore
Is it limited to champagne?
No, nothing to do with rarity
If anything, it seems completely random
just go look up EN wiki gun lists they're all listed
or all weapon lists for that matter, for gear that have coeff
it's just the name. gear isn't ship exclusive
Its just the name we gave to the gun (althoug sometimes confusing), since its a BB gun any BB can use it
when we name a gun with a ship it's usually because that's the ship the gun is related to either in history or for release
there's basically no ship-specific weapon restrictions in the game
Oh ok
Guessing there's no way of finishing vampire meta now?
wait till they add cruise META archive or some shit, they said it's coming no idea when
Ooh ok
Why's there PR thing on top? What does that mean?
it refers to the research series the gear belongs to
we basically get a new series every year
Ok
Summoning them into battle does indeed cost oil
Oof noted
Couple of different ways to do it tbh
I, at least, do so normally and just accept the extra oil cost = it will take a longer time, and my resource gain/oil spent will drop noticeably
Others will use dorm + skill books, raising affinity either by secretary or waiting for a raid type event
Anyone figure out how to get the zoom in and out button on the left side of the secretary where the menu pops out? I did it a few days ago by accident and can't make the slider bar to zoom reappear. Was it a glitch they patched? Has anyone else ever seen it?
Why do we want a high affinity? Does it give bonus exp
100 affinity = +6% to all non-static stats
The thing that gives bonus exp is having high morale (120+)
in the jp wiki there is the column but in the en wiki the damage modifier past 10 is listed separately from the table
they might have it somewhere in the jp wiki but i didn't find it yet
can u guys recommend a fleet i started yesterday and pretty lost
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
This might be useful then
ty
How good is foch meta ?
they stated it in another location
in the enhancing page https://azurlane.wikiru.jp/index.php?装備強化に必要なパーツ数
also how does this work should i develop this? i dont have enough ships for the others yet
is this better than the quad version of it for general use? I got this from spamming gold IB tech boxes
We don't know
But probably shit
No it's way way way worse
you can skip that until you've reached around chapter 9 campaign
You can safely ignore this first
ok
you can start but PR should absolutely not be a priority for focus at this stage of the game
ok thanks, I'll stick with the quadruple then
also as an f2p tf are we gonna use gems for? dock space?
Preface: This is my own edited version of the /Gems Command. I and numerous others disagree with the recommendations and after several attempts, we have been unsuccessful in getting the changes made so I have decided to just create this instead. Some recommendations will remain the same, there w...
yes
I'd reccomend more dock space from here on out
3 dorm slot + 2/F is more efficient for F2P, dock space for as long as you need to keep more ships
ohh yea i wanted to ask, how do you unlock 2/F
you need to have finished expanding your dorm floor space first
ahh ok

