gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

well if you get rid of them just know they won't be back for at least the next 2 years or so if you suddenly decide you want to complete the collection

[wind hazel]

extra 6

[boreal wagon]

but u dont lose collection rating if you have already had them

[wind hazel]

mlb for event frame 👍

[whole crypt]

tech wise they're just DD EVA at 120 which is

[whole crypt]

as in keep all ships in dock, or getting 120 for faction tech, not that French faction tech does anything now

[boreal wagon]

fair

tho french prolly has the best chances at getting faction tech if any new ever will

[whole crypt]

back to the depths of B1 I go...

[eternal basalt]

Russian also

[strange sphinx]

SN GANG

[rapid grail]

this AA accelerator gun good to +13?

laffey II just example ship

[dense bramble]

Is she worth researching just after finishing my second research ship in (PR1)?

[eternal basalt]

Yes, but do FdG first for free DR prints

[inland shoal]

Hmm dunno about that, don't think I see it used often

Not to mention that +13 for accels is kinda meh anyway

[eternal basalt]

+10 > +13 is pure damage, not speed increments

[inland shoal]

I think real AA guns I almost exclusively see roombas Sexy and rainbow

[frank pulsar]

twin 90 and quad bofors are quite common as well

[jaunty vault]

the only accelerator worth+13 is twin57 aka UR AA

[tawdry topaz]

is morgador reformed fixed or is she still tier F?

[inner delta]

prolly not but the case by case use isn't tested yet because we dont have the patch

[tawdry topaz]

so we cant fix her

[icy mountain]

almost there

[jaunty vault]

she will be fixed for EN soon™️

[rapid grail]

will the moggers patch/es be in EN after next maint

[jaunty vault]

can't say

[boreal wagon]

we dont know but probably

[jaunty vault]

sjhsbsna in sywjbwksmsbdjsnsksm

[icy mountain]

wise words indeed

i just need to 120 my alsace and i can finally do her stuff

[jaunty vault]

good for you

i will have to 125 her to do her stuff

[cobalt rapids]

coop are u ok

[jaunty vault]

well i figured if the mods allow this dude to be off topic, then i can do whatever i want too

[icy mountain]

maybe its cuz i have them

is saint louis worth the coin ups?

[jaunty vault]

not really

[cobalt rapids]

are u coining any other gold rn ?

[undone plover]

PR4 first imo

[icy mountain]

just roon since i dont have any techfleet for anchorage

[cobalt rapids]

then do roon for fd tech

[wispy cosmos]

none of the cp skins have ever been rerun or released otherwise right

[icy mountain]

okay then, is roon usablw at dev30? or is she recommended at fs5?

[jaunty vault]

astrata

wdym by cp

[undone plover]

I think only AvP is super reliant on her FS5 for consistency

[wispy cosmos]

cruise pass

[jaunty vault]

yeah no

[cobalt rapids]

good ending

[tawdry topaz]

roon is recommended at Muse

[tropic ermine]

did suzutsuki become permanent alongside shinano

[stark quiver]

Do I do gold or other one for Brest

[icy mountain]

goldddd

[cobalt rapids]

either is fine

[forest palm]

Gold

[undone plover]

gold if she is the only one left or u are trying to focus her.
blue is better for overall season rate i believe

[tropic ermine]

so theres a good chance prince adalbert becomes permanent alongside ulrich someday

[cobalt rapids]

99% chance

[tropic ermine]

cool. hope it ahppens soon

[weary fog]

What are the opinions on the gold ships in PR5 and PR6?

[rapid grail]

quantity over quality, spam a lot of blue face researches if you can

[stark quiver]

theyre good

[wind hazel]

great

[rapid grail]

remember to maximize your research project uptime

[weary fog]

Anyone specific I should go for first?

[cobalt rapids]

some gooder than others, theres many golds in pr5 + 6

[icy mountain]

wouldnt u want quality for the chances of good drops? or do u just spam alot to offset the low drop rates

[cobalt rapids]

you should go for the ones in 4 since thats the one you should be focusing, mainly anchorage

[icy mountain]

my logic is probably wrong

[cobalt rapids]

if ure done with 4 then just do the one thats closer to mlb

[glass quest]

what Augment on Morgador

[cobalt rapids]

swords

[tired condor]

is suzutsuki worth leveling

[cobalt rapids]

depends on what u have, shes ok

[spring bolt]

harbin are frequently used in farming contents, like opsi mob fleet for one fleeting daily+hidden+stronghold, shimanto is still competitive in main story late chapters
rest are replaceable
wrong ping, sorry

[glass quest]

is this fine as equipment or should I change things?

[cobalt rapids]

its fine but that aa gun kinda depends on ur aa setup in fleet

[spring bolt]

unless you know what you are doing, that AA gun is no good

[undone plover]

there was a website that had the drop rates for BP research but i dont think it works anymore
on average blue is better than gold IF u manage to get more blues
but u cant guarentee u will get another face research after taking this one so that is why taking either is fine tbh cuz it is rng

I take blue early in the season and later on after maxing 2-3 ships I take purples and golds but I am sure some will do it in another way

[glass quest]

90mm in general I suppose?

[cobalt rapids]

90mm works better if u dont know about ur aa setup
aa depends on content
some content prefers other type of setups than others and theres also where aa doesnt matter

[whole crypt]

even if you know what you're doing that gun's pretty bad

[spring bolt]

usually twin 113 or rainbow AA as brain dead choice, or twin 134 for extra fp

[lean warren]

tips for w13?

[whole crypt]

use carriers
use good fighters
bring AA

[spring bolt]

don't use fighers that can't intercept, fighters that can intercept but have no bombs are not good either
some torp bombers can intercept, so bring them if you have them

[sharp socket]

what are the good fighters then

[stark quiver]

flapjack fighter and wyvern torp

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[sharp socket]

what about seafang and hellcat

[soft raft]

gold hellcat's fine if you lack the 1000lb fighters

[cobalt rapids]

u can consider 2x500lb fighters like seafang, hellcats sidegrades with worse aa

[lean warren]

fdg, unicorn and aquila in mob fleet should be fine? with san diego in vanguard

[cobalt rapids]

depends
its fine but mby boss wants sandy

[knotty dome]

if i use yk2, kear, implac/avp, should kear bb salvo go before or after airstrike or doesnt matter?

[whole crypt]

preferably before

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[cobalt rapids]

3cv + tank + 2 flex mob
1 bb + 2 cv + 1 tank + 1 aa carry + flex boss
is a template but depends on ur ships since ships > hulls

[night pumice]

how good are the event shop torps compared to the 533m quad homing ones?

[spring bolt]

worse

[cobalt rapids]

worse, they are manual torps

[spring bolt]

iirc they are 3-2 pattern, manual usually means you want to unleash all torps in 1 shot so i think manual hates it as well

[lean warren]

should I use my most heavy hitting cv in mob?

[night pumice]

ah okay. and which gun is hood gun again

[whole crypt]

the usual options are Unicorn/Independence/Saratoga

[cobalt rapids]

depends, mob should have unicorn or ur pref healer and then the other 2 are dmg or dmg-support cv but having one with natural stagger like indep is good
overall what matters is to have green acv and good aa setup and ure good to go

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_381mm_(BL_15"_Mk_II)#Type_0-0

[lean warren]

ill try with unicorn aquila and enterprise in mob with bismarck zwei shinano and implacable boss

[unkempt wren]

Hi, I just started playing Azur Lane today and I'm currently at level 12. Is there a specific ship I should choose with the Special Invitation item? The available ships are:

• Illustrious
• Tosa
• Amagi
• Sirius
• Chapayev
• Tashkent
• Graf Zeppelin
• Prinz Heinrich

this are the ships I have rn in my dock:

[whole crypt]

Eneterprise shouldn't mob

[lean warren]

so independence?

[whole crypt]

for a new player I highly recommend you just hold on to the invite

[soft raft]

Just keep it for later
And also give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[unkempt wren]

Alright thanks guys

[unkempt wren]

I'll definitley get this a read

[kind slate]

should i use ap or he for medium carrier?

[soft raft]

carriers are rarely light armor so AP

[kind slate]

its the jellyfish looking enforcer

[whole crypt]

AP

[cobalt rapids]

disable fleet lock and check their armor

[kind slate]

okie dokie

[night pumice]

is it worth retrofitting every ship that I can retrofit when I'm building fleets?

[whole crypt]

retrofit ships you use
ships you don't aren't a priority

[cobalt rapids]

when ure planning to use that ship further than xp grinding her to 120 aka tech then its worth retrofitting her yes

[soft raft]

outside of Nelson (if applicable), Unicorn, Portland, and your starter, no that wouldnt be a priority for early game

[spring bolt]

tbh it's totally fine if you stop after retrofitting portland and uni

[atomic abyss]

need starter retro for rookie missions

[spring bolt]

oh right

[boreal oriole]

Does the Frontline getting dragged by Mogargador already sortrd out on other servers?

[boreal wagon]

no but it only happens if shes the lead ship

[broken pivot]

What's the prompt for the gear guide again?

[soft raft]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[boreal oriole]

Last one, i read somewhere that there is still a chance that she takes more than 5% of her damage cap?

[boreal wagon]

she can take up to 9.9% (as described in <#gameplay-help message>) in very rare situations

[undone plover]

Is there any niche SR gear from pr1-3 worth grabbing in protoshop? Not worth wasting opsi mats on?

[night pumice]

is it better to use unique augment over the generic ones?

[worldly pewter]

blue is the best one

[drowsy hornet]

Can you have more than one burn status afflicted on enemy ships at any one time?

[whole crypt]

usually unique augments are better than generic ones but some aren't much better and cost much more
which one are you after
also I don't recommend investing in them in early game

[undone plover]

Depends on the unique augment. Also not all are worth crafting. Hood/saratoga are the main ones u should care about as a beginner

[whole crypt]

if they have different burn IDs

[whole crypt]

champagne gun

[undone plover]

Have 3 already. Also sextuple x2 should have mentioned sry

[drowsy hornet]

Like Alsace, Algerie, Azuma, and Yuudachi barrage burns? Not just HE burn.

[whole crypt]

won't really use sextuple but

[night pumice]

mostly looking at hood and laffey

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Fire_/_Burn_Damage

[boreal wagon]

all 4 of those are unique to another according to that ^

[undone plover]

Isnt sextuple + double 57 the best generic loadout? At least so far for the content that we have?

[whole crypt]

not that you should really care too much about burns, most things don't live long enough for burns to matter

[weary fog]

Thank you

[night pumice]

...burn damage?

[whole crypt]

and things that live long enough you have more to worry about than burns

[whole crypt]

wrong @

[spring bolt]

for now, bug is only in hiryuu meta where she died with 10%+ hp in 1 sec

[drowsy hornet]

That's fair. I was considering making a burn-based fleet just for shits and giggles

[whole crypt]

anyway Hood and Laffey augments are good, but costs quite a bit depending on how far in you are in the game

[undone plover]

If u use hood make her augment definitely.
Laffey’s not worth tbh cuz u will rotate her out soon. And the special augments need 15 aug cores which isnt very easy to get

[boreal wagon]

from the video i have seen she did not have 10%+ lol

[whole crypt]

the Hiryuu vid she was at like 30%

[boreal wagon]

that was before she tped tho

her damage redu doesnt start until she has actually tped, and at that moment she had way less

[whole crypt]

but you're looking at unique cases for this sort of damage, she should survive most lunges

across your average META/arbiter you're looking at around 50% damage from lunges in the whole fight at most

[boreal wagon]

yeah im not saying she is good for META im saying the video i saw does not lead me to believe its unintentional behaviour

[lean warren]

seattle is good for aa?

[crimson glacier]

meh

[rapid grail]

over time you'll have more chances to get pr ship prints and specific pr gear, usually ur gears if you spam blues (and occasionally purples and the very short rainbow/gold projects) than if you just take the longer research projects
cumulatively better in the long run

[night pumice]

what should I ideally be replacing laffey with then? is mog a good choice?

[crimson glacier]

seattle secondary has pathetic efficiency

[whole crypt]

Hiryuu's beam hits pretty hard anyway it's not like moggy is special in dying to it

[atomic abyss]

and that's why you get cheshire from pr3 instead

pr2 the only thing worth is fdg and maybe azuma

[boreal wagon]

ye like said i was just trying to debunk the "its a bug" claim

[spring bolt]

video after 2nd patch
hp was at a little more than 25% and dead in 1 sec
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ki421S7XJ/?spm_id_from=444.41.list.card_archive.click&vd_source=f74bf073428d96d8e927857596d32162

[whole crypt]

unless someone looked up hiryuu's lasers to see if there's any reason they'll do more damage than moggy's skill will react to

it's the same vid, I'm pretty sure I saw around 30% after she reached the front

[boreal wagon]

thats not 25%

[spring bolt]

red dot for 25% and 50%

[undone plover]

Depends who u have. She is fine for now u dont need to replace her. I just meant no need to make her augment since eventually u will replace her.

[whole crypt]

yeh but it's definitely more than 10%

[spring bolt]

anyway that's definitely more that 10%

[boreal wagon]

could be

[topaz smelt]

Inb4 the cumulative% rounds down every tick

[hallow iron]

She still clunky after the buff?

[vale spindle]

it probably does

[boreal wagon]

it could also just be the beautiful world of floating point math

[spring bolt]

only in hiryuu meta, not anywhere else

[whole crypt]

not in most cases, this one is very specific

[vale spindle]

you know, spaghetti code is always to be expected

[boreal wagon]

im willing to bet its a floating point thing which they cant do much about

[undone plover]

@night pumice Mog is very tentative at the moment. Undoubtedly she will be very good but she is probably not a very high priority for your UR bulins
If u have alsace she will be a better choice

[atomic abyss]

this

if this HP vanishing issue post buff only happens in HirM then it's almost certainly a hirM thing

[crimson glacier]

atleast right now lets say mog is a good ship, she still probably is one of the lowest if not the lowest UR bulin prio

[atomic abyss]

lower than kron/shima?

[crimson glacier]

kronk and shima do their job

[topaz smelt]

The Urs this event has been kinda disappointing

[atomic abyss]

there has been no news to date about em

[spring bolt]

anyway just level her after patch arrives, before patch she even dies to trash mobs

[vale spindle]

yeppega

[whole crypt]

anyway jinghao's also made a vid after that putting moggy at A+ for late campaign as highest DPS off-tank
S+ with Alsace for OS
that's the dude who posted the vid moggy dying in hiryuu's beam spam

[crimson glacier]

its not like mog has really anything that would make shima look bad anyway, both suck at w15

[atomic abyss]

if alsace is disappointing to you then i think you guys just have had far too high expectations

[crimson glacier]

well alsace is just another basic UR BB

[undone plover]

Didnt they mention they are planning to implement a way to rerun them? It wasnt anything specific tho

[night pumice]

if the only leveled destroyers I have are laffey and javelin, with laffey being lvl 120, should the mog gun go to laffey

[topaz smelt]

Shes kinda on the weak side compensated with a preload

[atomic abyss]

nothing specific yea

[whole crypt]

nothing particularly exciting the past 3 years of the game yes

[atomic abyss]

it's more likely her kit was nerfed because of said preload...

[topaz smelt]

She's just flan with a better barrage

[atomic abyss]

if she had like musashi's kit while having a preload she'd be even more broken than zwei

[crimson glacier]

eh idk about that

[vale spindle]

preload isnt that important mobbing since unicorn already preloads

[boreal wagon]

i love how we are complaining about mog having a unique skill set for breaking the game but in the same breath complain about a UR being generic

[crimson glacier]

like if she is tied with dmg for musashi, zwei just still beats that

[undone plover]

I think it was in the CN dev notes in April/May but again it wasnt anything specific.

[atomic abyss]

i mean
right now she already HAS musashi's damage tho

[crimson glacier]

you do realize that theres nothing wrong with being unique

[topaz smelt]

Only in opsi where you can utilize her preload

[atomic abyss]

but yeah maybe zwei was a bad comparison

[night pumice]

there's no way for me to accidentally use up a meta crystal is there? I just noticed I only have 3 for vamp meta instead of 4

[crimson glacier]

it doesnt matter what the ship does, if its bad ppl will complain

[vale spindle]

she can be an amazing ship but also boring in design

[atomic abyss]

accidentally use it for "limit breaking" sure

[eternal basalt]

They were mentioned in the META lab update that "they were coming"

[atomic abyss]

that's as good as me saying "Soon ™️ "

[kind slate]

is it worth getting a 3rd+ flapjacks? ive got 1 wyvern, 2 tenrai, and twin 457

[plain saffron]

Something confirmed is diff than something with no news at all

[spring bolt]

well for meta, alsace is like no.2 BB for all light and medium bosses to come, i guess

[elfin hollow]

Is enterprise worth to build

[atomic abyss]

very very worth

she's like the best non-UR CV not named unicorn (who is technically a CVL)

[topaz smelt]

Comes down to meta mechs

[crimson glacier]

while enty is good id still rather own aquila or volga over her

if we are talking about the best

[atomic abyss]

fair

[spring bolt]

probably not worthy to dump a lot cudes into non event pool, as many other ways to get her

[whole crypt]

hm Alsace/VG/BisZwei/Plymouth/Hindenburg/Moggy?

[kind slate]

this is from gearlab and w14+

[night pumice]

how good is brennus?

[atomic abyss]

don't players need like 6 flapjacks for w15...?

[topaz smelt]

7 is comfy

[atomic abyss]

brennus is good
that's about it
nothing special

[spring bolt]

agir and drop mog if boss hits hard, but we have no info for wichita meta attack pattern yet

[whole crypt]

you don't need flapjacks for 15 but yes it'll be nice for 6+

[whole crypt]

not going to Wichita comps yet obviously, we have no idea what they're doing for gimmick

[topaz smelt]

Can't wait for it to be throw unzen at it again somehow

[atomic abyss]

possibly

"could be takes reduced damage from backline"

[night pumice]

is she worth using over dev 30 saint louis or san francisco in a fleet

[whole crypt]

admin speculating smh

[atomic abyss]

san fran is too strong to be replaced with brennus

as for sanrui.... why would you use either honestly...

[kind slate]

ill just aim for getting a few more then.

[atomic abyss]

brennus is like a slightly better port kai

tanks worse but does more damage

[topaz smelt]

I still don't see it

[atomic abyss]

if you have alr dev 30 sanrui, and have alr mlb sanfran, don't bother with bren

[undone plover]

Any hit rate buffers besides sirius? Ignoring the debuffers like aurora/bristol

[topaz smelt]

Any normal hit buffers

[inland shoal]

Sirius isn't a hit rate buffer

[undone plover]

Ik u mentioned in the code they are basically the same. Meant more like skill description

[inland shoal]

The code has 2 separate things for hit rate and eva rate. One of them works, the other one is used by Lil Lusty

[vale thicket]

Im not sure if im not seeing things right but, do the ships happiness/stamina drain faster on the hard missions of the new event? Ive found i cant do as many as perhaps normal levels

[whole crypt]

next month is hermit?

[inland shoal]

Only if you're sinking

[topaz smelt]

If they die yes

[atomic abyss]

did you turn on the high efficieny tickets...

[vale thicket]

i have not, just been running them normally

but i noticed they went from 150 to like.. 81 within 6 battles

i dunno if that's just the normal rate

[inland shoal]

That's the normal rate if you die every single fight

[vale thicket]

gotcha ^^

[undone plover]

It is safe to assume that outside of lil lusty everything is eva rate debuff right?

[inland shoal]

If by battle you mean a full map run that's like 36 fights so 72 morale loss so possible ig? If your recovery is low

[vale thicket]

any tips for improving recovery aside from the dorm?

[topaz smelt]

Oath

[undone plover]

Not letting them die is the only practical thing.
Second floor is also faster than first

[vale thicket]

gotcha! and unlocking floor 2 is by getting floor 1 to its max expansion right?

[inland shoal]

Yes (not to be confused with buying all 6 slots)

[vale thicket]

yeye

thx all! been a big help for me as i learn the new things here

[whole crypt]

so jinghao's verdict is:
15 moggy suffers usual DD problems, can't compare with Laffey's durability and AA
14 she's fine/great, bonus for the sonar scan
OS/bossing needs to be with Alsace but Alsace can also pair with Brest, not particularly outstanding compared to say Bis-buffed Hindenburg
wichita may be one of the cases where she'll fit as light armour but not the usual CL/DD meaning Aurora can't debuff

so suicide damage essentially not a problem or dealbreaker anymore

[silk helm]

is there an opsi guide anywhere? can find it in samhearts guides

[whole crypt]

follow tutorial/mission markers, clear chapter 4 at least, clear anything with an icon on the map

[spare grail]

Its just playing and clearing the map levels, you just want to make sure you get your 200 meta showdown data a day then your good

[whole crypt]

that's provided you intend to actually bother with showdowns, something you don't need to seriously worry about going in
we're also changing METAs soon and if you're starting now you're not going to get Rodney MLB anyway

[sweet epoch]

Does anyone know what fleet/gears are good for the Monthly Takao boss on hard

[whole crypt]

anti medium CV

[ripe peak]

Can someone tell me if my current loadout is good or if there’s any other shipgirls that I should build/ recommended to build 😞

[jaunty vault]

unicorn

[bold salmon]

can i avoid getting into the fog area on strongholds?

[eager mulch]

those are not good

[jaunty vault]

if you manual

[ripe peak]

i don’t understand the game very well 😞

[jaunty vault]

autosearch can fuck you up

in fog

[bold salmon]

ok yes that was the problem

thanks

[jaunty vault]

[white agate]

can i consider shinano more useful in the mob fleet?
usually for the boss fleet bb and etc are more recommended unless heavily in avi disadvantage,no?

[vale spindle]

do any of the new dds have fp tech

[undone plover]

There are better CV for mobbing tbh. Shinano will probably be overkill and not bring much utility

[whole crypt]

all 3 are EVA

[viscid swift]

well for a start don't do what you're currently doing with your URs

[vale spindle]

rip

[ripe peak]

ermm i kind of don’t understand what the stats mean like LB/ MLB etc

[whole crypt]

"ships that are not limit-broken are shit"

[ripe peak]

thank u 😭 LOL

[viscid swift]

limit break and max limit break respectively

[ripe peak]

i kinda read thru it a little bit i shouldn’t pull for new urs if none of my current urs are max limit breaked?

[whole crypt]

generally a lot of a ship's offensive stats are locked behing fully LBing them, some durability as well
if you're using ships above lv70 you should aim to have all of them LB'd

pulling for new UR is fine, Alsace is pretty good, but priority of LBing them will depend on your current fleet situation and UR bulin availability

[viscid swift]

no, what you shouldn't be doing is using non max limit broken ships and spreading around your UR Bullins like that

[white agate]

yep, problem is i don't know where i could use her since my boss fleet is already bb based

[whole crypt]

generally for campaign both mob and boss fleets should be mixed

[viscid swift]

in other words boot every UR you have in your fleets right now except Musashi and Implacable to the bench right now

[undone plover]

Well in campaign at least u generally want 1 BB 2 CV (with some caveats)
In opsi nano pairs very well with hakuu + stopper CV

[ripe peak]

ahh so like focusing on maxing out one UR at a time using the bullins (excuse me for asking a shit ton of questions)

[viscid swift]

yes

[whole crypt]

not just URs, same is true for all rarities, so SRs can also run into this problem

[viscid swift]

refer to the section 2 as to why

[ripe peak]

ahh i get it a bit now

[midnight flower]

What are Guam and Laffey2 roles?

[cobalt rapids]

tank aa dmg

[kind slate]

i accidentally bought some extra pr3 gear bps a while back. what should i get with it? i already have 2 champy + soyuz gun

[midnight flower]

Both of them?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[midnight flower]

Mob or boss?

[cobalt rapids]

both

[atomic abyss]

they're that strong yeah

[midnight flower]

So versatile?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[atomic abyss]

exceedingly so

[midnight flower]

Okay arigathanks

Finally can replace my nimi

[atomic abyss]

assuming they are mlb*

[atomic abyss]

just convert them to another champy...

[midnight flower]

Wait, I got noshiro as my main mob tank rn, should I replace her with Laffey2 instead?

[cobalt rapids]

or sextuple

[lament tree]

How do I get pamiat?

[atomic abyss]

assuming she is mlb, yes you can replace her

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki pamiat

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat'_Merkuria
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat'_Merkuria/Questline
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat'_Merkuria_META
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat_Merkuria/Questline
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat'_Merkuria/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat'_Merkuria/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat'_Merkuria_META/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat_Merkuria/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat'_Merkuria_META/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pamiat_Merkuria/Quotes

May 28, 2024, 4:38 PM

[atomic abyss]

light build for pamiat

[midnight flower]

Alr I will keep nimi for now then. Is there any dd I should hunt to replace her?

[jade ibex]

Is Soyuz or Alsace better to pair with NJ and BZ?

[atomic abyss]

you would replace NJ instead and use them both

[atomic abyss]

well, did you pick up the retrofit items for an shan/chang chun/tai yuan from their events at any point?

[midnight flower]

Yea I got an shan and chang chun retrofitted, didn't know tai yuan had one

[atomic abyss]

they are all pretty much massive upgrades to z23

[midnight flower]

Which one tho..

[jade ibex]

so the "best" combo since i dont have vanguard/Musashi would be Soyuz BZ Al

[atomic abyss]

they don't have the tank or aa prowess of laff 2 sure
but more damage instead

tai yuan got hers from this CNY

as for the 2, An Shan is better if solo
Chang Chung is better if running with other russian/chinese ships like harbin, yat sen or soyuz

[midnight flower]

Yeah I missed this year's cny

[midnight flower]

Alright arigathanks

[jade ibex]

what could I do better here?

[cobalt rapids]

more rainbows

[atomic abyss]

honestly? not much...

[lament tree]

is she useful?

[atomic abyss]

lol no

[jade ibex]

no York2/Vg/Mus tho

[lament tree]

none of the ships i like ever end up being useful

[silk helm]

keep building, next one will be useful

[jade ibex]

honestly, after a certain point ur gear can compensate playing what ships u like

somewhat...

[whole crypt]

not UR gear, just good gearing in general

[wind hazel]

think he meant ur as in "your"

[jade ibex]

yes my bad LOL

[cobalt rapids]

ur right

[wind hazel]

UR right?

[whole crypt]

regardless, you can afford to use some shitty ships as long as they're properly geared, and if in difficult content also properly carried

[jade ibex]

Just no neptunia fleet in w15

[whole crypt]

they won't even survive 14

[lament tree]

neptunia fleet?

[jaunty vault]

relic of the past
dont worry about it

[bold salmon]

is the new gun good on ddgs?

[lament tree]

wait, how do you guys farm the event out till the 50k points in a couple days without bottoming out your ships affinity?

[jaunty vault]

its best on them

dorm and touch grass or dorm and cycling out/using multiple fleets

[strong tartan]

yas kween it's so gud

[inland shoal]

[jaunty vault]

tyere can only be one kween

[lament tree]

what does the second dorm floor do again?

[strong tartan]

increased morale regen

[knotty dome]

should i just be getting the 1 copy of mogador and use bulins for the rest?

[jaunty vault]

gives more slots for faster morale recovery but no xp

[whole crypt]

dorm, cycling ships

[inland shoal]

Well there's no way to get a 2nd dupe so yes

[jaunty vault]

get second copy and save a UR bulin

[inland shoal]

Unless by 1 copy you mean just getting the ship once

[knotty dome]

i'd have to spend the event currency buying mogador currency tho

[jaunty vault]

youve got 2+ weeks

[knotty dome]

it's worth it?

[jaunty vault]

it saves a bulin

[cobalt rapids]

its worth unless ure sitting on a pile of bulins

[inland shoal]

Yes everyone has to. Don't buy it now tho cuz you didn't get all the vouchers yet

[jaunty vault]

worth is, as always, subjective

[whole crypt]

if you farm enough even points it's not like the cost matters

[inland shoal]

Its worth depends on the time you have to grind the event and your pile of special cores

[wispy pendant]

and I'm wondering if it's worth keeping a dupe of every UR

[whole crypt]

and the answer is no

[jaunty vault]

75k event points for 500 UR vouchers lesgoooo

[jaunty vault]

bogue abuse

[wispy pendant]

you don't need to buy 500 vouchers if you just do some of the missions for mogador tokens.

[jaunty vault]

i know, i was making a joke

[knotty dome]

i have 1 UR bulin able to buy from proto shop and 1 from the milestone rewards but that's it, haven't spent any on alsace or mogador yet. i've gotten all the other URs to mlb so only need to get enough bulins for new URs now. won't it be enough just from normal proto sources?

[whole crypt]

already picked up my second copy, still have 270/500 vouchers left in shop

[eager mulch]

I got the joke cooper

[wispy pendant]

are we even sure mogador won't instantly die in w12-4 safe yet?

[whole crypt]

on EN no

[jaunty vault]

she won't

[eager mulch]

she won’t die

[wispy pendant]

but what about W14?

[atomic abyss]

even pre fix she's not gonna die on w12

[whole crypt]

on CN/JP she's fine

probably one of the better ships for 14 mob even

[jaunty vault]

so you only have 4k spec core rn?

[keen sable]

Is doomposting not banned anymore?

[inland shoal]

It's not that many event pts

[knotty dome]

7k but capped out for the month so effectively 4

[jaunty vault]

depends on the moderator overlooking the channel

[whole crypt]

CN tierlist guy already gave moggy an A+ for late campaign and S+ for OS

[eager mulch]

moggies

[atomic abyss]

the thing is, even pre fix there's nothing for her to commit seppukku on in w14

[wispy pendant]

Does "OS" include meta fights?

[whole crypt]

META showdowns are all case-specific because of stage gimmicks

[atomic abyss]

no, why would you ever use DDs not named kazagumo on metas even

[inland shoal]

I see cn also bought my A-mogus

[eager mulch]

Arizona meta

[tired condor]

do they ever release gear augments after a ship is released

[jaunty vault]

so you dont even have enough to mlb alsace and mog, you should definitely buy the dupe

[atomic abyss]

fair, and for that shima would be better than mog

[knotty dome]

ok that makes sense

[atomic abyss]

all augs are released after a ship has been...

[eager mulch]

mog is faster than shima

[whole crypt]

he did mention moggy may have a case for Wichita META due to her unique nature of being a light armour CA, but we won't know till the fight comes

[tired condor]

if I get the augments for alsace, a better augment is not gonna come out right

[strong tartan]

do you mean directly after release or

[atomic abyss]

mog is faster than shima
but ari meta is heavy armour so uh

[strong tartan]

why would she get her own augment

[atomic abyss]

not sure what mog is gonna do there

[lament tree]

you play jp?

[jaunty vault]

does mogador do more damage than DDGs

[tired condor]

bow or sword better for alsace

[whole crypt]

DDGs higher DPS but I suspect not adjusted for heavy armour
also moggy better durability

[jaunty vault]

depends on content, generally sword is better

[whole crypt]

I didn't dig too deep into numbers

[wispy pendant]

bow does extra damage to heavy

[strong tartan]

Is it with sacrificing a slot to use Argus for like pr grinding

[spring bolt]

right question: bow or sword better for <insert enemy name>

[jaunty vault]

haya what

[whole crypt]

moggy durability ~ hindenburg level
if with Alsace on light armour definitely better than using Bis-buffed Hindenburg

[wispy pendant]

PR grind is the definition of sacrifice... jsut do the work

[strong tartan]

Argus

[whole crypt]

I'd use Argus if it's HMS main fleet XP

[cobalt rapids]

id use some1 who needs xp in 3rd slot

[eager mulch]

I wouldn’t use Argus if it isn’t HMS main fleet xp

[strong tartan]

okag

[jaunty vault]

you see

[eager mulch]

i see

[strong tartan]

I can't see

[jaunty vault]

the exp buff is

in fact

[strong tartan]

thanks

[jaunty vault]

only 15%

[whole crypt]

XP buff is less than using a third ship that actually counts for the XP grind if wrong faction

[wispy pendant]

Is monarch the only Research ship that needs royal navy main xp?

[jaunty vault]

youre welcome 😁

[strong tartan]

😁

[whole crypt]

so Langley + 2 USS CV is fine for USS main fleet for example, but you wouldn't use her with 2 IJN carriers for say Hakuryuu
you'll use Houshou

[strong tartan]

never again

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt use any ship that is capped or i dont want xp on regardless if right or wrong faction

[spring bolt]

feel my pain when all your backlines are capped

[jaunty vault]

yes, i think

[strong tartan]

Marco

[jaunty vault]

oh

[whole crypt]

I would use any ship that counts for XP grind, I don't have a choice for capped

[jaunty vault]

fake pasta 🤢

[wispy pendant]

i used pizza ships for marco

also, I haven't used marco since she got her fs5... 😄

[jaunty vault]

i haven't used marco since i 120d her

[strong tartan]

i just haven't used Marco

[whole crypt]

there's no need to stare coops, you know I effectively have no main fleet ships to level

[knotty dome]

i get low on grey plates from 1h rigging analysis, should i buy grey plates from medal shop to supplement?

[jaunty vault]

i do it for fun

[whole crypt]

et tu, renhex?

[strong tartan]

staring problem confirmed

[jaunty vault]

yes, also from merchant

[knotty dome]

ok thank you

[jaunty vault]

ren does it for fun too

[knotty jasper]

Are there other ways to get more Wisdom Cubes besides dailies and coms?

[jaunty vault]

missions, monthlies

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#currency

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#currency

[jaunty vault]

sometimes in coin/merit shop

[knotty jasper]

Thank you all for answering my question.

[strong tartan]

You're welcome.

[spring bolt]

al resource is always balanced
i was close to 1k cube and i hit pity on alsace, sent me back to 500 ish

again

[jaunty vault]

i always hover around 200

[cobalt rapids]

[knotty jasper]

I had at least 350-430. Down to 195 and still trying to get Alsace.

[strong tartan]

I hover around 50

[inland shoal]

I know someone with almost 3k and he always gets lucky on every event, dunno about that balance

[jaunty vault]

and then there's rime

[midnight flower]

Is mogador mob or boss

[jaunty vault]

both

[cobalt rapids]

both

[inland shoal]

No real preference

[jaunty vault]

yuki lurking

[midnight flower]

Is laffey2 reisalin mogador good for mob

[cobalt rapids]

depends where

[atomic abyss]

in hard content lol no

[midnight flower]

Ehh, in general?

[jaunty vault]

its good but i wouldnt use it

[atomic abyss]

there is no such thing as "in general"

[midnight flower]

Who should I replace?

[jaunty vault]

tbh that could work upto w14

[cobalt rapids]

if general is up to w12 + events then yes

[atomic abyss]

and even then, are any of them mlb

[midnight flower]

Well, planning to

[atomic abyss]

then it's a no go

[midnight flower]

Ah I see, thanks

[atomic abyss]

UR bulins are just far too rare

if your backlines need bulins

[midnight flower]

Main fleet good just need 4 ur bulins more to mlb mogador and laffey2

[cobalt rapids]

dont partial lb ur ships, do them one at a time
haveing 2 lb2 ships is bad vs 1 mlb + 1 lb0

[mighty jasper]

Any advice for next UR main gun to +13? Was thinking maybe Guam gun.

[cobalt rapids]

what about ur non ur guns

[jaunty vault]

would do a plygun

[inland shoal]

(Except with dupes obviously)

[midnight flower]

I know, I'm waiting for tomorrow login to get another free ur bulin, and 12k proto cores waiting

[mighty jasper]

the ur cogs are calling me xd

[spring bolt]

mog gun, ply gun, guam gun, all ok

[cobalt rapids]

unzen gun aswell

[whole crypt]

as long as you done 3 champagne guns and maybe izumo gun for Musashi first the rest are kind of whatever

[jade ibex]

can never have enoguh tenrais

[mighty jasper]

ok nice thx 🙏

[whole crypt]

you don't use that many Tenrais normally

[tired condor]

dam i kinda want unzen how long ago did she come out

[cobalt rapids]

a bit less than a year

[strong tartan]

September 2023

[jade ibex]

whos a good rocket carrier besides York2?

[cobalt rapids]

shinano haku implac avp enterprise unicorn etc.

[strong tartan]

I think Hornet II is pretty solid

[atomic abyss]

any of the essexes are

[whole crypt]

if using with Yorktown II then Enterprise or Shangri La
if not then just go with IJN rainbows

[strong tartan]

yeah the essexes are fine

[whole crypt]

or if you can make it then Kearsarge/Yorktown II/Implacable

[spring bolt]

yeah that is more usable due to most bosses move

[jade ibex]

its a bit hard to sync kearsarge with avp

[whole crypt]

you just need to sync with Yorktown II

[jade ibex]

no Yk2, started during Impla event

[whole crypt]

you want Kearsarge to shoot before airstrike anyway

then Enterprise or something

[cobalt rapids]

whats a rocket carrier

[whole crypt]

I don't seriously recommend pushing Kearsarge fleet without Yorktown II anyway

Shinano/Hakuryuu/Implacable works fine

[cobalt rapids]

having more fighter slots doesnt necesarily make a carrier better than others

[kind slate]

Does limit breaks affect cv reload times?

[whole crypt]

yes because it affects plane count

and you don't want to use them before MLB anyway, plane count and fleet tech included

[strong tartan]

rocket propulsion

[kind slate]

I just thought I could start trying to sync before I mlbed my nano

[cobalt rapids]

i see

[jade ibex]

mm illustrious maybe?

[whole crypt]

firstly the plane count is different so the times will be off
secondly without MLB you're missing planes so it's trash
thirdly MLB adds tech so reload will be off again

[spring bolt]

sync is annoying when your carrier's stats change a lot, so don't bother until they are mlb and max level

[whole crypt]

you're probably not looking at a huge difference past 115 but yeh

[blazing shale]

Balancing around 2nd BB fleet

[tired condor]

not that ill ever get her but is kearsarge good

[atomic abyss]

very

[tired condor]

she has a weird class never seen it before

[atomic abyss]

BBV means aviation battleship

there are 4 others in game, but she's the only good one

[viscid swift]

5 not 4

[jaunty vault]

petition to ban albadoubt in gph, only used to confuse others and does not provide any information

[atomic abyss]

[jaunty vault]

i stand by my petition

[soft raft]

I do agree that he can be confusing at times, but he's no salty belfast

[steady beacon]

But confusion is like half of gph's purpose

[jaunty vault]

its not just cheeky though

also saltybelfast was a different breed

[viscid swift]

wait what

[jaunty vault]

ask blaster he made those claims

[topaz smelt]

theres only 1 pepeg that really uses it

[wispy pendant]

i leveled her to 125, she's kinda disappointing, tbh. I still like Chise,Rikka,Yume combo, but princess and 2nd are meh

[silk helm]

what are some easy ships to get that have high torp stats :/

[inland shoal]

She's rly not that bad

[cobalt rapids]

ijns dds like shiranui kagerou aya

[inland shoal]

Was Cygnet high eva?

[strong tartan]

yeah

I think she has a highest but I could be making stuff up

she does

[wispy pendant]

guam's been out long enough, how is her damage compared to the other CBs, not considering her AA?

[inland shoal]

So that's why she came to mind thx

[icy mountain]

this comp oneshots this opsi harbiter huh

[topaz smelt]

Many comps 1 shots harby

[spring bolt]

should be very close to azuma fs5, a little higher than brest
but she has armor break

[wispy pendant]

is she higher than agir and kronk?

[inner delta]

agir is low

[topaz smelt]

Agirs the lowest

[forest palm]

isn't it like Kron → Azuma → Guam → Brest → Agir for Gun Damage

[inner delta]

should be

[topaz smelt]

i expected brest to be higher than guam, but i dont do numbers anymore

[cobalt rapids]

azuma and brest are rly close

[inner delta]

so guam is also close

[topaz smelt]

ye i rmbr azuma being pretty close to brest

[spring bolt]

Yeah, not much difference so i usually don't care at all

[topaz smelt]

but anyways damage numbers are pointless, +/- 5% isnt going to change anything

[forest palm]

makes sense

[bold salmon]

still waiting for fs5 agir

[topaz smelt]

the best thing in her fs5 is likely to be +25 luck

[spring bolt]

And probably ignorable +5% dps. Unless we get 2-3 tanks stronger than her before fs

[topaz smelt]

i can see her getting fast loaded torps at best

[elfin hollow]

Bulin team is just

[topaz smelt]

dont even need that, just needs more content that less favors heavy armor

[grizzled creek]

Is thwre a website or something that I can see the animated versions on non-available skins ?

Theres a Pola skin that says coming soon idk if it ever came out before

[wide shard]

hello, can someone help me doing a third fleet to kill this monthly opsi boss in hard?

[inner delta]

youtube or alg wiki

[steady beacon]

Sure, start a thread and we can give you a hand

[grizzled creek]

Is there a way to get the animations to play on there

[wide shard]

Help to make a third fleet to kill monthly opsi boss in hard

[elfin hollow]

Whats a good plane for fuso (bb) now since i had retrofit her

[atomic abyss]

there's literally like 2 or 3 planes you can use but uh

sorry to say, you made your fusou worse by retrofitting her

[elfin hollow]

[viscid swift]

not like she wasn't bad pre retro anyway

[atomic abyss]

there are only 2 ships in game that become worse with retrofit
one is fusou, the other is yamashiro

[elfin hollow]

Welp time to find more better alternatives of sakura empire ships to unlock haku

[atomic abyss]

why didn't you use hiryuu or souryuu

[elfin hollow]

I might i have retired hiryuu by mistake

I dont know how to get hiryuu again

[soft raft]

If you were just grinding out tech points why did you even do Fuso's retro when retrofits don't give tech points

[eager mulch]

the bbvs give good tech anyways

it’s not like who you use for pr xp grind matters

[elfin hollow]

(No no main ship points)

[eager mulch]

and retrofits count towards collection% too

[elfin hollow]

Im trying to finished getting haku im like on 30 %

[soft raft]

Oh

[eager mulch]

The best sea plane is the gold suisei model 21 in the gear lab

[atomic abyss]

just use the one from boxes

the zuiun

not worth the mats

[eager mulch]

gold sea plane is cheap as hell

[elfin hollow]

Should i spend it?

[atomic abyss]

well the gearlab one uses the gold suisei

the boxes one is purple anyways

[eager mulch]

15-2

[jaunty vault]

13-4 better

[topaz smelt]

wait for 16-1

[elfin hollow]

Chapter 13??? Ok im cooked 😞

[jaunty vault]

do you not see the 3-1, 3-2, 3-3 in green

with a ✅

[silk helm]

Chapter 3??? im cooked

[jaunty vault]

never cook again

[forest palm]

[keen sable]

It's D3 or 12 or whatever. No need to exaggerate. Even akashi works

[haughty laurel]

Why can’t my bismarck go above level 70?

[atomic abyss]

because you did not limit break her

with the exception of URs, ships that are not limit broken will not be able to go past 70

[viscid swift]

And METAs, and PRs

[atomic abyss]

with just 1 limit break, you get stuck at 80
with 2, 90

[topaz smelt]

shouldve played on cn

[next spoke]

I just unlocked dorms I have 107 ur vouchers what should I do to get more

[cobalt rapids]

check pins for voucher sources

[topaz smelt]

grind the event

[next spoke]

I also have the ur that u need@to pull

The event stages?

[dull lantern]

Is there a way to turn this into a half way decent Boss Fleet without Laffey II and Implacable?

[atomic abyss]

yes the event stages

[next spoke]

Ok Ty

[viscid swift]

Boss fleet for where exactly

[atomic abyss]

boss fleet for what content tho

[dull lantern]

14

[atomic abyss]

because you did not limit break her
with the exception of URs, PRs and METAs, ships that are not limit broken will not be able to go past 70

[haughty laurel]

Oh ok, thank you!

Thank you :)

[viscid swift]

Zwei, Yorktown 2, Shinano,

Vanguard depends on what else you have

[dull lantern]

Zwei seems like an odd choice, why her and not NJ?

[viscid swift]

Zwei is just better

[topaz smelt]

nj kinda sucks in 14

[atomic abyss]

because her black hole functions as a slow too, to allow your carriers to hit better

[topaz smelt]

youre not syncing in 14

[cobalt rapids]

backline will be desynced

[viscid swift]

More damage and better are for w14 and better suicide boat interception

[topaz smelt]

bz barrage hits well thru smoke

[dull lantern]

Alright, and how is this for mob?

[topaz smelt]

really fucking bad

[atomic abyss]

either you die to subs or to suicide boats with that...

[forest palm]

no tank, ulrich, percy, would honestly just scrap that vanguard entirely

[viscid swift]

That's dead on arrival

[forest palm]

Uni really would be the only ship to keep

[cobalt rapids]

would scrap the fleet entirely except uni

[viscid swift]

Just start a thread and post your dock

[atomic abyss]

and with NOT just the URs

[viscid swift]

Just URs and SRs

[topaz smelt]

urbad

[dull lantern]

Dock

[forest palm]

I mean...mob ulrich fits the bill

[toxic tartan]

After series 5 on newcomer is there anything else?

[topaz smelt]

where are the flag uvh copers

[forest palm]

[atomic abyss]

nope

[topaz smelt]

did alo finally get over it?

[frosty slate]

Is this gun not really that good for being a rainbow?

[forest palm]

I don't remember anyone recommending Ulrich Flag tbh

[dull lantern]

Way, way too long to fire

[topaz smelt]

plenty of ppl were coping uvh was fine on mobs since you can move her flag on 0 ammo

[dull lantern]

By the time Mushi fires it Ulrich got like...5 blasts off.

[atomic abyss]

to be fair... ulrich fires faster than most

[jaunty vault]

too much effort 😕

[jaunty vault]

is pretty niche, does hit hard but really slow

[topaz smelt]

cant really call it niche if there isnt a use case for it

[atomic abyss]

where does that gun even come from...

[topaz smelt]

sashi

[alpine ether]

with hard mode what is the difference between the difficulties in terms of retrofit loot once u hit yellow tier? does the possible amount to get increase or smthn?

[atomic abyss]

primarily, increased core data drop

and you use the core data to buy stuff from the core shop

[jaunty vault]

wdym yellow tier

[atomic abyss]

there is also 3*-ing them for gold retrofit BPs as mission rewards

[alpine ether]

the retrofit loot hits yellow or gold or sr whatever u wanna call it

[alpine ether]

i see ty

[vale spindle]

the rates are probably the same but core data income goes up

[atomic abyss]

anecdotal evidence says it increases... very slightly

so yeah primarily is the higher core data income

[jaunty vault]

basically now it has a chance to drop gold BPs too when before it was only limited to purples

[topaz smelt]

ender with the insider info

[atomic abyss]

nah, this was community gathered info

[cobalt rapids]

masking it as anecdotal

[alpine ether]

no like theyre both gold

[atomic abyss]

iirc, it was like 1% increase between hard mode maps...

[topaz smelt]

the alo admin community

[alpine ether]

but my question was answered already by ender its chill ty tho

and ty guys for the help as always

[atomic abyss]

and the comparison was between w7h and w8h iirc

[next spoke]

Is there a way to get ur vouchers from daily rewards

[jaunty vault]

check pins

[next spoke]

I can’t. Best any@event stages and I don’t know what the missions are rling me@to do

[topaz smelt]

i vaguely rmbr a sheet that went upto 10?

[jaunty vault]

and fix your keyboard

[next spoke]

I don’t see the thing I need in pins

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

[jaunty vault]

if this still doesn't help you

[next spoke]

How to clear d3

And sp

[atomic abyss]

i mean, it depends on what ships you have

[jaunty vault]

have you unlocked d3

[atomic abyss]

to get to d3, you need to clear all the c maps

[jaunty vault]

C&D maps are in hard mode

[next spoke]

I am on the 4th level

[jaunty vault]

you dont need to clear normal to unlock hard

[next spoke]

Do I press hard@mode on event levels

[atomic abyss]

what levels are your ships at even

[next spoke]

I can’t beat it normally tho

[viscid swift]

Might wanna look a bit closer

[jaunty vault]

by 4th level, i assume you mean chapter4?

[next spoke]

Lvl 4 are all my ships

[atomic abyss]

[jaunty vault]

uh oh

[next spoke]

One is level 6

[jaunty vault]

so youre new new

[next spoke]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

you're gonna need to push the story first

[jaunty vault]

just do event normal mode

[next spoke]

Will I get strong enough to get the ur vouchers

[jaunty vault]

that depends on how much effort you put in

[atomic abyss]

you're not getting the ones from the D3/SP maps for sure

[next spoke]

Is there anything else I can get it from other then mini games

[jaunty vault]

you may be able to clear B3 before event ends

[atomic abyss]

daily, there is a mission that gives you 5 vouchers

[viscid swift]

^

[atomic abyss]

other than that, use the event currency to buy the UR vouchers

[next spoke]

Ok are the missions easy

[viscid swift]

The daily event missions are piss easy

[atomic abyss]

the priority is for you to clear the B3 map

[next spoke]

Even for lvl 4

[jaunty vault]

yes

[next spoke]

Ok how do I do that

[atomic abyss]

for that, you need to go through the A maps first

[next spoke]

Is that just playing normally

[jaunty vault]

go to missions

and select event

and see what gives 5 UR vouchers and do it

[next spoke]

I die after I defeat 2 of them

Ok

[jaunty vault]

try levelling up in campaign if you cant even do A1

[atomic abyss]

maybe complete w3, then go to the event

[alpine ether]

i tried to look on google and couldnt find anything but how are crystal fragments obtained? i have like 196 but idk how i got them

[jaunty vault]

next time dont google it lol

[alpine ether]

i usually try to google every question i have before asking in here just cause i dont wanna waste ur guys' time with a dumb question 😭

[atomic abyss]

google will usually give a dumber answer... (thanks google AI)

[viscid swift]

Yeah Google is not a good thing for that though

[jaunty vault]

wdym crystal fragment, do you have a screenshot

[viscid swift]

Use the AL wiki in future

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource

[viscid swift]

Weekly missions, opsi exchange shop, and beating harbiter

Very limited

[forest palm]

just easier to buy Bearn copies from the event la

[jaunty vault]

also excess META fragments

[alpine ether]

does this refer to like retiring meta characters?

[jaunty vault]

yeah uhh kinda?

[vale spindle]

no if it did i would have listed it on my guide

[jaunty vault]

[vale spindle]

my guide should have all the sources of crystal fragments

[alpine ether]

yaa i see now took me a second to realise what opsi is but i get it now

[vale spindle]

Oh right NVM

So if you somehow get a drop bearn meta after having enough crystals, the extra copy gets converted to meta fragments automatically

[atomic abyss]

it's less retiring

[eager mulch]

we knew that tho

[atomic abyss]

more of the game exchanging them due to excess

[vale spindle]

yes i brain farted

My guide was right though

[jaunty vault]

excessMETA ship RNG does not tell you shit

[raven kindle]

does main fleet mode in the retrofit tree just mean i can use changchun in main fleet if i want

[jaunty vault]

yes

[atomic abyss]

yes, but it's not recommended

[blazing shale]

Yeah but she's more useful in the vanguard

[vale spindle]

yes i should rectify that thanks for telling me

[jaunty vault]

np 😁

[raven kindle]

so if i buy it, i cant use her in vanguard anymore?

[blazing shale]

You can toggle it

[atomic abyss]

nah, it's a toggle

[undone plover]

Does vanguard position affect torp firing order?
Pvp guide mentions jintsuu meta in tank position fires torps first

[atomic abyss]

yes

[vale spindle]

yes it does

[undone plover]

[vale spindle]

That's why when using tanikaze you gotta use her as tank

[alpine ether]

are you able to retire meta ships

[atomic abyss]

no

[vale spindle]

No but they don't take up dock space

[alpine ether]

how do i get rid of vampire meta

[undone plover]

So it is main tank will fire first regardless of rld? Or if they are very close in rld?

[atomic abyss]

you can't

[vale spindle]

you don't she's permanently there

[atomic abyss]

at least for the preloaded torps, they will fire first

[vale spindle]

but cause this u good xd

[alpine ether]

oh wtf honestly i completely missed that message good to know

[vale spindle]

They added it only during the last update too xd

Before that i had like 35 slots of dead (literally)

[alpine ether]

yeah that was my worry

im like this character looks kind of dogshit from my albeit limited knowledge of the game and i just cant get rid of her

[vale spindle]

that's why devs added the meta ships dont take up dock space anymore there were a lot of people complaining the same thing

[jaunty vault]

no dockspace for shipyard when

[forest palm]

honestly I'd just want Bulins not to take doc space, shipyard is w/e

[viscid swift]

I just want everyone to buy more dockspace

[jaunty vault]

bulin not taking space actually makes sense

[jaunty vault]

ewwww

[lone vigil]

Just got 20k merit do I spend it on littorio?

[jaunty vault]

tash

[viscid swift]

She's mediocre

[lone vigil]

So save for another ship or get bulins?

[viscid swift]

Get bullins

[blazing shale]

Save for bulins imo

[lone vigil]

K

[jaunty vault]

you can buy litt if you want her

or any other ship for that matter

not saying they would be good gameplay wise

but this is a collector's game

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't get her even as a collector until you're in a position to afford it

I.e. not broke on bullins

[jaunty vault]

which is gonna take god knows how long

[viscid swift]

Shorter than it'll take for some events to rerun and get added to the WAs that's for certain

[wispy pendant]

Bulins not taking dock space plz

while we're at it... dupes not taking dock space!

[atomic abyss]

#game-feedback is that way

[undone plover]

At what RLD threshhold can u do 4 airstrikes in opsi?

[hallow iron]

Lecture hall is important to upgrade?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[jaunty vault]

0

[elfin hollow]

Is it worth getting Experimental XSB3C-1?

[soft raft]

No not really
Needs +13 to be better than Helldiver and even then, it's only marginally better

[elfin hollow]

Wait could I get her from war archieves d3??

[undone plover]

I meant without having to gimp your normal loadout?

[jaunty vault]

no it doesn't

its basically helldiver but with 20 more AVI and +13 able
still wouldn't get it tho cause tenrai exists, but there's other players that do, it's a matter of preference
@elfin hollow

[cobalt rapids]

like max, but just compensate with cats and indep
and sometimes 4 airstrike not rly helpful coz strength shields on 3rd and then vang dead on 4th

[jaunty vault]

@undone plover

[undone plover]

so max u mean 40 is enough? or 80 with cats?

[cobalt rapids]

more than 40 and depends on setup

[jaunty vault]

its really setup, fleet and context dependant so cant say for sure

[cobalt rapids]

also making ur cvs fast but not fast enough will just make em sync to 20s arbiters shenenigans

[undone plover]

oh for sure i understand. I guess my question was I can run fulmar instead of tenrai and make it happen even at 0 RLD right? so should I? or is there a point where it becomes worth considering
but u answered that so thanks

[native glacier]

who to focus on?

[elfin hollow]

Tenrai is really hard to get for me still

[faint kite]

what should i keep doing in OpSi like what should i focus on doing more if my objective is getting as many resources for making gear in gear lab

[atomic abyss]

enterprise

[wispy pendant]

clear shop

[atomic abyss]

you can basically ignore all the other SRs there

[native glacier]

yes

[faint kite]

cleared shop of the gear lab mats already

[wispy pendant]

tamaki is sad you said that

[native glacier]

is the Alcase from event good?

[atomic abyss]

very, once limit broken

[wispy pendant]

farm c5 until month is over if you've cleared map and all map loggers

[wispy pendant]

new UR BB is one of the best UR BBs

[native glacier]

nice

i'll try to get her

[elfin hollow]

How about XTB2D-1 Skypirate is it worth to get?

[viscid swift]

not really

[wispy pendant]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[lavish scroll]

is soyuz really need same fraction ships or she can handle alone?
i dont use her till this event

[viscid swift]

she's one if the best BBs in the game even without buffing other NP ships

[cobalt rapids]

she has no faction req

[atomic abyss]

she can be run without russian botes

[wispy pendant]

I would use baracuda's or the VIT-2's and skip sky pirate and go for wyverns

[faint kite]

is it right to assume that VIT-2 is gonna be generally better than barracuda's

[wispy pendant]

i think so for multiple reasons

[native glacier]

any guide for making teams?

i'm having it difficult to understand what each ship role does and there are so many idk which to use

[wispy pendant]

follow newbie guide, and you'll learn a lot along the way

[soft raft]

You can give this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding a read, or if you want, you can post your dock in a thread

[native glacier]

thank you

can I post my dock here?

[soft raft]

In a thread yes

[native glacier]

Need help making team formations

[silk helm]

Is there any like gear guide for like mid level or transitional gear? the samheart one has a lot of event locked gear or gear lab

[jaunty vault]

it should also have transitional gear, no?

[silk helm]

for example CA guns, pretty sure i don't have any of these 😦 i'm not very far in gear lab

[viscid swift]

scroll further down the page

[silk helm]

these?

[inland shoal]

Outside of those it basically doesn't rly matter what you use cuz all other options are just bad

[silk helm]

okie ty

poverty moment

[jade ibex]

its okay, we all gotta start somewhere

[inland shoal]

Everyone starts poor

[native glacier]

can I play the music that plays here in other screens?

[lone vigil]

How do I get more total trp as I am missing some

[wispy pendant]

just use whatever until you have one of the poverty options and then work on one of the better options

[wispy pendant]

use ships with torp, like helena doesn't have any torp

[lone vigil]

Ah ok...

[wispy pendant]

you can sort by torp stat

[tranquil saffron]

Average level is an issue

[undone plover]

either replace torpless ships like helena or for that much only u can put torp aux on any vanguard. not the main tank preferably

[kind slate]

how many more ur vouchers can we get?

[orchid tulip]

you could add some +torp augment

[frosty slate]

Is this one good? I don't see anyone using it

[wispy pendant]

it's best DD gun in game, where are you seeing people "not using it"?

[wispy pendant]

probably still getting the daily 15 mission?

[orchid tulip]

help me make a ijn fleet for o.s. please, how bad is musashi flagship? I could swap Hakuryuu for Nagato or Owari and set them as flag

[wispy pendant]

looks fine

musashi is great at flag

[orchid tulip]

but her ability

[wispy pendant]

yeah, that's why faction fleets suck... not like there is any heals there at all

but for single battle boss, that fleet does fine and musashi helps the other ships out

[viscid swift]

if you somehow manage to her killed with that skill that would be a sign you're doing something horribly wrong

[orchid tulip]

Nagato and Owari skills look attractive

but maybe not enough to replace Haku

[viscid swift]

absolutely not

Owari just worse than Musashi and Nagato is bad even in a faction fleet

[orchid tulip]

lol poor girl

[viscid swift]

as this is why faction fleets are bad

most of the faction buffers suck so you're either running ships together which have no inherent synergy and thus no reason to all be sortied in a single fleet and/or actively using worse ships

[orchid tulip]

what ship would you add/replace there in the pic?

from any faction

[frosty slate]

Oh, is it? Maybe i've been seeing outdated guides haha... it's better than this one?
I have those two, so I wanna put them on the right girls

[kind slate]

Are there any sidegrades to the triple 155 Kai in w14 for bb secondary?

[wispy pendant]

it's better than that. It's brand new, so many guides don't have it yet

[viscid swift]

I would keep Shinano and Haku and replace just about everyone else
Musashi get's replaced with Implacable and the Vanguard would be Guam, Kazagumo, Sirius

[wispy pendant]

he wants a faction fleet

[viscid swift]

not really and there's but one upgrade, the Plymouth gun

[orchid tulip]

nah I'm open to an any faction fleet now

[wispy pendant]

if you're looking for opsi mob fleet, there are a lot of other options

[kind slate]

Ok guess I gotta go make one then.

[wispy pendant]

that looks more like a boss fleet

[wispy pendant]

make another ply gun for me!

[orchid tulip]

I didn't say that's my mob fleet

[rough vale]

worth it???

[viscid swift]

I remember hearing this being a decent sidegreade to the 155 kai but it's even more expensive to craft https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_150mm_(SK_C/28_Prototype)

[viscid swift]

not with that cube count

[kind slate]

I don’t even have one for myself

[wispy pendant]

you want more cubes for future URs

[rough vale]

Sounds good. Still need to save for Vanguard rerun

[wispy pendant]

what do we call this gun?

[kind slate]

Also for gear lab, I’m assuming it’s better to get things like 155kai and flapjacks than using all ords for a single 457? I already have 2

[wispy pendant]

most of the time I use champ gun over 457 anyway

[orchid tulip]

I can't play an all carriers focused fleet, I wish I could but I don't have wyverns

[kind slate]

Sorry for another question but do we have any idea of what mats are needed to craft mk7 bb gun ?

[wispy pendant]

most bosses you want converging instead of wyvern