gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

could you show us where you died in OS

[viscid swift]

That's one thing solved at least

[hardy skiff]

oooh corrosion 6, that makes sense

[eager mulch]

nntktt was wrong

[viscid swift]

That's somehow even worse

[atomic abyss]

yeah you can't do corrosion 6 at your level

[whole crypt]

this is called a corrosion level
your ships can maybe handle a corrosion 5 zone at best
you went way above what you could fight

[whole crypt]

how was I wrong?

[atomic abyss]

corrosion lv 6 are at like 114

[meager gyro]

i hate corrosion

[hardy skiff]

5 could be rough still without decent gear tbh

[atomic abyss]

just do lower corrosion levels like 4 or 5

[topaz smelt]

prob doable with adapts

[whole crypt]

eh, he's barely making it for levels, if poor gear I'm not sure adapts will save him

[eager mulch]

I didn’t see the “+” my fault OG

[elfin hollow]

I think this new french CA might be better then anchorage

[topaz smelt]

can also always port cheese

[sweet delta]

You're smoking

[topaz smelt]

shes a worse roon

[atomic abyss]

well... in what way would she be better?

[elfin hollow]

I am a mexican so yes

[hardy skiff]

@meager gyro you should put all your eggs into one fleet, make a fleet with NJ, Unicorn, Essex, San Francisco, Helena and Roon, this will probably help

[viscid swift]

She's probably better damage wise but for Anchorage's main role f*ck no

[kind slate]

Can someone help me make an opsi fleet? Preferably fleets for each boss type?

[elfin hollow]

Ig in damage

[frank pulsar]

wasnt ancho dmg on the high side for a ca?

[cobalt rapids]

why for each boss

[whole crypt]

Anchorage is on the mid for a CA

[kind slate]

i thought you made like 4 fleets for opsi? i was assuming they were for different bosses?

[hardy skiff]

I think he meant fleets to get coverage for all bosses he would need

[viscid swift]

Not quite

[meager gyro]

eggs?

[topaz smelt]

you tend to throw 4 fleets at 1 boss

[cobalt rapids]

each fleet is for every boss u just change their gear

[sweet delta]

🥚

[low juniper]

Is there a list of good main and secondary guns to use for Alsace?

[hardy skiff]

just figure of speech, put all your good ships in a single fleet and just use it to farm opsi for now

[cobalt rapids]

sams guide

[topaz smelt]

standard bb

[low juniper]

The datamine?Or the ETCL

[cobalt rapids]

in /equip

[low juniper]

/equip

[desert tapir]

I know I was asking about the challenge mode last night but I promptly passed out. Should this fleet be able to handle it?

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[kind slate]

wait what. then why do people use 4 fleets? im brainded

[viscid swift]

BB boss: Bismarck, Soyuz, UvH/Alsace, Agir, Helena, Plymouth

Cv boss: Shinano, Haku, AvP, Anchorage, kazagumo, sirius

[cobalt rapids]

because sometimes 1-3 fleets is not enough

[stark quiver]

most likely, if geared correcrly, btw maybe run sirius+kazagumo

[soft raft]

Mob fleet, BB boss fleet, CV boss fleet, and either another boss fleet or cross fleet spam

[sweet delta]

Change unzen to Sirius and laffii to kazagumo

[viscid swift]

Mob fleet is Unicorn plus 5 and 4th fleet can be whatever

[cobalt rapids]

the hardest content which is hard arbiter requires u to kill her with just ur 4 fleets, 1 fight /each
so ull use as many as u need

[meager gyro]

like this?

[low juniper]

I mean like, what guns are good for Alsace? There are a lot of guns there and idk what I should use and what I should aim for

[kind slate]

does it have to do with morale? (or the thing that stops you from challenging again in opsi i forgot name)

[hardy skiff]

yes just put roon to the far left and san francisco on the far right and you're set

[stark quiver]

nj in the middle

[cobalt rapids]

alsace doesnt have any special preference, u can use ectl if its too much text but i recommend reading

[eager mulch]

Alsace is no different from most other UR bbs in their gearing and should be geared according to content

[meager gyro]

why that?

[frank pulsar]

leftmost spot takes the most dmg, so your tank always goes there

[low juniper]

And also what exactly is a salvo

[strong tartan]

pew pew gun bb

[meager gyro]

thats good to know i guess

[hardy skiff]

because the far left takes the most dmg, followed by far right then middle, roon is your tankiest ship then san francisco then helena

[desert tapir]

My Sirius is only level 64 and Kazagumo is level 69

[cobalt rapids]

a salvo is what happens when u press the blue bb button or when auto does it for u
how many depends on how many mgm ur bb has

[frank pulsar]

the shells that fire from bb main gun

[sweet delta]

At least replace unzen. Like with Helena

[soft raft]

The main gun shots from your BBs on top of their barrages

[hardy skiff]

@meager gyro now put all the best gear onto the ships on this fleet and with that farming opsi should be far easier, I doubt you can do corrosion 6 but you might be able to do corrosion 5

[kind slate]

just as a prediction, but how high in terms of URs is alsace? like dmg, utility wise

[cobalt rapids]

the upper floor most likely

[meager gyro]

then i get hate again because i switched up gear

[low juniper]

So what does it mean in Alsace's LB2 by Salvo capacity +1

[topaz smelt]

depends how well you can utilize her preload

[sweet delta]

She can store two button presses…

[low juniper]

Oh

[cobalt rapids]

allows her to store an additional charge, same as how cv store airstrikes

[hardy skiff]

pretty sure upper floor, she has pre-load and doesn't lose a single salvo for that different from most french ships, that alone is pretty strong

[desert tapir]

Yeah that I can do. She comes up enough shes 120 and moderetly well geared so easy to adjust

[stark quiver]

dont all ships store only 2

[meager gyro]

what is even this whole thing? im just doing this every once in a while when i get the prompt

[strong tartan]

nop

[kind slate]

oh yea. i sort of want to start trying to time cvs and stuff. do i have to reset timings every time i get tech points from ship upgrades and things?

[stark quiver]

[meager gyro]

also idk whats good

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/META_Showdown

[sweet delta]

Recalculate timings when your fleet breaks

[atomic abyss]

there are only 3 BBs that can store 2 salvos
Alsace, Gascogne and Gascogne mu

[stark quiver]

fight boss to earn boss

[meager gyro]

i aint reading alla that

[kind slate]

so just keep things as they are until everything falls apart?

[lament tree]

Why hasn't enterprise gotten a retrofit? She's like, 5 years old yeah?

[low juniper]

If you play on auto why would you need to store a salvo

[stark quiver]

cuz devs didnt give her

[atomic abyss]

^

[hardy skiff]

it's specially good for Alsace since her salvo is linked to a damage buff and you don't lose on her dmg since she can keep reloading a salvo even with 1 stored

[viscid swift]

Ask the devs

[atomic abyss]

i mean enterprise is strong enough to compete well with the UR CVs so.............

[lament tree]

Is retrofit not something that they give to older units?

[kind slate]

do i use this to calculate timings? https://www.traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

[strong tartan]

no

[atomic abyss]

only 3 gold units have gotten retrofits in 6 years

[lament tree]

O

[cobalt rapids]

no more rld jam

[strong tartan]

Enterprise is fine as she is she doesn't need a retro

[worldly pewter]

if u don't read u will most likely ending up by not learning

[viscid swift]

Nope, I remember one ship, Kinu, got a retro in the same patch she was released

[soft raft]

Also Enterprise is still cracked AF to this day so there's really no reason to retro her

[strong tartan]

yeah same event she got a retro

[lament tree]

She is?

[low juniper]

Wdym by reload jam? Jam how?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

enterprise damage can compete with UR CVs lol

[kind slate]

what are the timings for matching with avp (haku and shinano)

[atomic abyss]

in other words, she's a UR CV disguised as a gold one

[sweet delta]

100% proc enterprise can compete with UR CV damage

[topaz smelt]

enty can compete with full buffed ur bbs

[lament tree]

So they made the poster girl of AL busted from the start

[atomic abyss]

when you are firing a shot, the other cannot reload
so by having 2 slots, the other slot can load while the first is being fired

[low juniper]

Ohhh

[desert tapir]

The number of ships that are even in Ente's league is supper small, and even UR carriers have drouble out DPSing her. She's fine.

[viscid swift]

Because BBs can only store one Salvo when you sync them and they all reload at the same time they can't reload until they've fired their salves causing timings to get pushed back

[meager gyro]

is this good?

[sweet delta]

Avp should be second to strike,and try to get the other two within 0.3s of avp for opsi

[strong tartan]

I mean you didn't even win

[atomic abyss]

rather unintentionally....

[lament tree]

You love to see it

[cobalt rapids]

why is roon in the middle

[atomic abyss]

enterprise scales with better gear
so the more broken gear the devs release over time, the stronger she gets

[meager gyro]

idK?

[strong tartan]

why is tirpitz there

[cobalt rapids]

based on dmg she should be tanking since shes not underlvled

[sweet delta]

It's a start

[meager gyro]

idk

[kind slate]

second? i thought i want to make use of her stop? or does this take plane travel time and stuff into account?

[lament tree]

Cause he probably didn't listen to the advice given

[hardy skiff]

Enty winned big with fighters getting better since she's fairly fighter focused

[viscid swift]

The latter

[kind slate]

oh right. off i go to do maffs

[viscid swift]

Maybe I should finish my sync guide...

[desert tapir]

I just realize Helena is currently useing two repair kits. IS that fine or does she preffer a diffrent Aux?

[serene moth]

Did i miss out on tai yuans retro item? If so how long before it reruns

[stark quiver]

youd want to make one of haku/nano go first, avp 2nd, then nano/haku go third

[sweet delta]

Send your homework here when you're done so we can copy it

[lament tree]

Is there any gear I can go after rn as a newer player for enterprise?

[meager gyro]

idk how to even change my ships in that boss fight

[cobalt rapids]

i recc using a calculator and make ur life easier
make sure they are within 0.2s of avp

[kind slate]

all within 0.3s of each other.

[topaz smelt]

tbh there would be more benefits to a desync guide

[kind slate]

please do

[stark quiver]

idk i dont fuck around with timing

[viscid swift]

I'll get on it, maybe, never

[stark quiver]

if it killed big target then : ✅

[topaz smelt]

i thought someone wrote one already

[hardy skiff]

and that is why I have 5 ryuuseis and 5 ju-87 d4

[cobalt rapids]

jimmy will make one

[atomic abyss]

standard
gold hellcats/seafangs or purple corsairs for fighter
helldiver for dive bombers
gold barracuda/purple tenzan for torpedo bomber
double catapult

[lament tree]

Is the game that serious that I need to take into account how long it takes for my plan to travel the screen???

[viscid swift]

Yes, we don't know when it'll rerun or if it will before getting added to the prototype shop

[hardy skiff]

really helpful to balance timings

[cobalt rapids]

depends on u how serious u take the game

[lament tree]

As long as it isn't necessary to beat content

[cobalt rapids]

u can just grind w12 and event for the rest of the days and pretty much anything works

[kind slate]

does timings matter in campaign stages? or just opsi and other stuff

[low juniper]

Shouls I make this and give it to Alsace?

[topaz smelt]

tbh its prob easier to write a script that builds timings and send that to nagami

[torn phoenix]

is Roon still worth being developed?

[patent pivot]

80s, 10% AoA's, 40% torps
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749339853661011968/1243980224941658264/image.png?ex=6653725d&is=665220dd&hm=dd4432a8e4303dbc719dc85716b1930f07ab7a41c2c5814760ac2ef0c6e3cd1d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749339853661011968/1243979704059433070/image.png?ex=665371e1&is=66522061&hm=4dfc1fae19ff30e450903c389d45ddb6f56f3ccb2c426488c28dd8048a06f030&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749339853661011968/1243979703761506415/image.png?ex=665371e1&is=66522061&hm=edfa8ad35a4d6402761a8a675e7b3acb160279c0fddc1e823d191d029c41ad67&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[cobalt rapids]

it is a good bb aux yes

[viscid swift]

Only for IB tech points to unlock other ships

[cobalt rapids]

consider ur timing if needed but most often than not its positive

[torn phoenix]

oh, alright thank you

[hardy skiff]

hmm does radar reduces cd for Alsace's 2nd main gun fire since she starts with 1 ready?

[tame jungle]

Yeah

[stark quiver]

how do i find plane count

[viscid swift]

The wiki

[hardy skiff]

oh nice to know

[low juniper]

I'm confused when it comes to timing cause I never take it into account

[topaz smelt]

press the button and count planes

[tame jungle]

Without screenshotting

[sweet delta]

In campaign you want to make main fleet ships attack at different times

[viscid swift]

Basically you want to time your attacks to hit during a buff and/or debuff like Helena's radar scan to maximize damage dealt on bosses

[whole crypt]

moggies good

[topaz smelt]

it sounds easy but the hard part is not losing all of your damage doing it

[viscid swift]

And the opposite is true for mobbing

[low juniper]

Meaning you'd want your main ships to fire before buffs/debuffs?

[hardy skiff]

sometimes it's nice to have slower/faster planes just for syncing or desyncing purposes, same for BBs actually

[viscid swift]

You want their attacks to land when they're active

Doesn't necessarily mean before

I.e. Implacable and AvP wanting to get second, etc

[stark quiver]

is flapjack plane count 45

[tame jungle]

Plane count is on the ship’s wiki page

[hardy skiff]

no it's the avi stat it gives

[viscid swift]

Plane count is tied to the equipment slot it's in

[stark quiver]

bruh

[cobalt rapids]

imagine releasing 45 flapjacks/airstrike

[tame jungle]

For example, independence retrofit has 4 fighters and 4 torps

[topaz smelt]

still loses to w15

[hardy skiff]

basically every limit break increases some or all ammounts of planes in a slot, so you either do the math in game on all 3 limit breaks or look up the wiki

[boreal wagon]

that would make it actually fair considering how much the enemies can shit out

[lunar arrow]

High efficiency plan double exp?

[hardy skiff]

yes

[topaz smelt]

double everything

[tame jungle]

It’s in this little table, the numbers are the amount of planes

[hardy skiff]

also double affection and morale drain, double everything pretty much

[cobalt rapids]

doubles everything including costs since its basicly 2x run but counts as 1 run

[stark quiver]

to time for implac, nano haku, do i need to account for all of these

Airstrike Cooldown: 19.63s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 21.13s
Approximate Strike Timers: 21.13, 40.75, 60.38, 80.01, 99.63, 119.26, 138.88, 158.51, 178.14, 197.76, 217.39, 237.02, 256.64, 276.27, 295.89

this is times for implac

[hardy skiff]

just doesn't count for number of times you cleared a stage for certain missions is all

[cobalt rapids]

u look at line 1 or line 2 if ure syncing to another carrier or smth
u look at line 3 if ure syncing to debuffs/buffs or other stuff that depends on battle timer and/or for how much ur stuff will stay synced

[stark quiver]

thanks

[hardy skiff]

also some ships might have reduced cd on all airstrikes or only the first one, but those are exceptions, just saying because it doesn't show that on the stat screen when it shows the airstrike cd

[cobalt rapids]

it shows if u input it

[hardy skiff]

oh on the calc yes, was saying ingame

[cobalt rapids]

oh u mean ingame

[hardy skiff]

yeah

[cobalt rapids]

yea ingame doesnt take rld% buff skills into account either

[stark quiver]

implac still fires faster than all the other ships even after haku and nano have beacon

implac
Airstrike Cooldown: 19.63s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 21.13s

haku
Airstrike Cooldown: 19.70s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 21.20s

nano
Airstrike Cooldown: 20.40s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 21.90s

[cobalt rapids]

implac is fast thats why u give her slower planes

u can use this for copy homework for standard opsi synced loadouts between implac and sakura and eagle
http://renhex.github.io/alft/46

[fickle scarab]

200 analysis and 3 75 support runs give how much pts?

[stark quiver]

since all of mine are unoathed, doesnt matter for timing right?

[cobalt rapids]

375 x 2 + 3 x 75 =

[fickle scarab]

Thank you

[cobalt rapids]

all oather or all unoathed = no adjustments needed

[stark quiver]

oh yea one more run, for meta battle, im at 15k points rn, will it be possible to farm 10k for mlb modney

[cobalt rapids]

u have 18 more days so yea

[stark quiver]

nice, i also need to do the support ones tho yea?

[cobalt rapids]

not if u do all ur own

[silver lintel]

I need shina haku avp cheat sheet since no implac yet

[cobalt rapids]

shina haku avp cheat sheet lost to the sands of time

[stark quiver]

it only gives around 700 a day right?

[cobalt rapids]

375 x 2 / day

[stark quiver]

2 a day?

[cobalt rapids]

yes u can host 2 battles every day

[stark quiver]

oh wait yea lol

[whole crypt]

own fight 2 x 375 a day
assists 3 x up to 75 a day

[stark quiver]

ill js do assits as well incase i forget

[cobalt rapids]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S3KUec3N5fJVoYLji200iqJqxa4IroTH/edit#gid=112562372
I still have this from shuwa which u can copy and put Avp instead of impy and itll work

[hardy skiff]

also don't forget to do dossier fights every 7 days for old meta ships, specially now that meta ships don't use dock space

[stark quiver]

my dossier poitns have been capped at 1400 for a while now

[hardy skiff]

you might not want to save all of them though

it does take a while to do 14 fights, specially since at best you usually 2-shot bosses so it's 28 battles actually...

[desert tapir]

So just and an update on Helena's gear. Am I at least in the right direction?

[stark quiver]

i 10 shot them

[cobalt rapids]

ure still off the road by abit

[sweet delta]

I'm more concerned about the CV gear because for this challenge mode, either you have enough damage or you don't.

[desert tapir]

Yeah that tracks

[hardy skiff]

yeah that's normal

I raised 3 performance hydraulic radars to +13 just for consistency sake

[sweet delta]

I can one shot dossiers on my alt. Each one shot takes 17 minutes.

[remote yarrow]

Wait 17 minutes?

[stark quiver]

but thats also cuz i dont have gear on any ships

[hardy skiff]

I think I got a one-shot once or twice with a lot of luck on helena and ark royal rolls

[remote yarrow]

Does the battle not have a timer or what?

[hardy skiff]

I'm a sad non-Implacable haver due to my 1 year break from the game, also missing on unzen and bismarck zwei due to that

[whole crypt]

the battle is like 1.5 minutes, then you can "auto repeat" for 15 minutes after which it just dies

[remote yarrow]

oh right I forgot about that

[sweet delta]

defeating the boss with one battle

[whole crypt]

it'll take as much oil as it takes to normally repeat with the same damage to kill

[hardy skiff]

the problem is when you have 14 dossier fights to go through

then it's 14x15 minutes

[topaz smelt]

Punished for slacking

[simple dove]

ragh what prototype shop gear should i try getting coming from the perespective of a lv 73

[hardy skiff]

I usually prefer to just 2 battles 14 times and just be done with dossier for the day

[soft raft]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Guide.jpeg

[simple dove]

oh ok

[topaz smelt]

Has that not been fixed yet

[soft raft]

wdym

[desert tapir]

I'm pretty sure they all need upgrades as well at this point.

[stark quiver]

yes precisely

[sweet delta]

Yea you're not clearing Takao hard with that

[topaz smelt]

I rmbr discussing plygun should go down some

[stark quiver]

the only thing i see correct is catapult, but rip timing

[sweet delta]

Was your goal medium or hard?

[hardy skiff]

I would like more ply guns but honestly, 1 is enough so plymouth can pierce with mgm+2 all the mobs

[desert tapir]

As far as I can go really.
Is it their timing? I hope its just the gear in general because I just can't seem to wrap my head around timing

[stark quiver]

your goal is medium armor boss, which means 109g

[sweet delta]

You can do away with timing if you manual. Manual is also especially potent for this CM because it effectively increases your fleet dps by 5000

[desert tapir]

I normally manual anyway so thats good news

[sweet delta]

So if you manual, then anti-medium planes at any timing works

Do you have skyraider? Rainbow dive bomber

[desert tapir]

I do. Its on Yorkii but I can move it on over to any of these ladies.... and I'm and idiot and just need to swapp over the rocket planes because they are a medium boss?

[stark quiver]

i only do 500k dmg in schornhorst meta, how to fix

[meager gyro]

which of the two for alsace?

[whole crypt]

that depends on why you're not doing more

[sweet delta]

considering that the left side is trash,

[stark quiver]

I’m using this fleet and heavy armor gear

[whole crypt]

the gun on the left is 🚮
gun on the right depending on enemy

[meager gyro]

what do you mean depending on enemy?

[whole crypt]

was scharnhorst the one with sub

[stark quiver]

enemy armor type

[whole crypt]

the gun on the right is much better than the gun on the left, but there are cases where there are better guns than it

[eager mulch]

all gear is dependent on the enemy

[stark quiver]

yea

[sweet delta]

One of the two with sub

[whole crypt]

were you dying to subs or what

[meager gyro]

hell nah i aint starting to switch gear to minmax

[whole crypt]

it's not even minmaxing yet

[stark quiver]

vanguard died, but also just dps wise isnt that good

[desert tapir]

I don;t have the resources to plus 13 those but I Do have most of that laying around in my inventory. Thank you very kindly.

[meager gyro]

[toxic harness]

Does anyone have a good gear tier list picture

[hardy skiff]

https://imgur.com/a/samheart564s-gameplay-help-picture-guides-fyi-this-is-album-of-various-guides-updated-march-28th-2024-YoxqS7A

[whole crypt]

if you don't want to minmax use

[meager gyro]

how the fuck am i even supposed to know what is good against what

[hardy skiff]

all the pictures you might need

[sweet delta]

By reading

[meager gyro]

so i wasted like 600 prototype cores to craft this gun?

[whole crypt]

you're wasting your time if you don't want to fix what's wrong with your comps

[soft raft]

to craft what gun?
if it's the 406/50 aka 406 MLE then no it wasnt a waste

[meager gyro]

im literally hardstuck

[sweet delta]

Yeah it's a waste if you're never going to learn when it's good

[stark quiver]

also, for modney, my planes are shooting the things behind her

[sweet delta]

Read the skill

[toxic harness]

This is great thank you!!

[whole crypt]

what are you hardstuck with, you keep saying you're hardstuck when you're just not doing what's appropriate for your level

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/index just bookmark this

[meager gyro]

i got no good ships and gear and i cant get any better ships and gear bc i have no good ships and gear

[whole crypt]

but you have good ships and good gear you just don't want to learn when and how to use them

[toxic harness]

Thanks!!

[desert tapir]

Can you open a thread and post your dock ordered by Rarity?

[whole crypt]

we've already tried

[wispy pendant]

Follow the newbie guide

[eager mulch]

[desert tapir]

ah missed that. Should have made sure I was at the bottom of the chat. Sory nntktt

[glacial solstice]

What pr 1 to 3 ships should i spend coins for bps?

[topaz smelt]

fdg

[desert tapir]

FDG

[wispy pendant]

FDG, Cheshire after that. Then it’s whatever for completion.

[glacial solstice]

Only them two? The others fell off that much?

[whole crypt]

I say this a lot, we can fix bad comps but we can't fix stubborn players

[wispy pendant]

Yes, where have you been?

[glacial solstice]

Mostly blue archive, and a bit of gfl
Got bummed that soyuz didnt came bc i got baited by the previous banner lol

[wispy pendant]

The ships in PR4-6 are better, the UR and recent SR are better, DDg retro’s are better.

Sorry you didn’t get soyuz. You should know to save 400 cubes for upcoming URs. Make sure you get alsace

[umbral goblet]

Why can't I catch up my haku?

[soft raft]

Damn that's crazy

[eternal moth]

Because you already did

[hardy skiff]

hmm I wonder how worth farming Cheshire is nowadays if you didn't get Guam last year, it's gonna be a bit till her rerun

[umbral goblet]

It's not fs5 did it

[rocky fjord]

just another coinable option, relatively good prio

[topaz smelt]

not really high prio until you try to tackle w15, but by then you prob have the resources to cap her out instantly

[whole crypt]

catchup complete doesn't mean your research is done, it means you've finished the 150 prints for that DR ship

[vale spindle]

It has not been fixed yet

my plan was to do the guide updates over the weekend cause busy :(

[umbral goblet]

Ohhhh I see. Thx

[stark quiver]

haku fs is coiunable?

oh

[wispy pendant]

I’m actually not positive on that

[strange sphinx]

how's the new DD gun? any good for Laffey II?

[vale spindle]

haku isnt coinable yet

[eager mulch]

new gun good, sure

[strange sphinx]

the torpedo?

[wispy pendant]

I hear the tldr is it’s better dps in all situations over the previous rainbow dd gun

[eager mulch]

less good

[low juniper]

How good is the UR DD gun

[whole crypt]

essentially

[soft raft]

pretty shit but get it anyways

[strange sphinx]

Oh well already did

[low juniper]

💀 DIdn't realize that was already asked

[eager mulch]

best gun dps of all dd guns, less AoA spam

[low juniper]

And what's wrong with the torp?

[eager mulch]

not magnetic

[topaz smelt]

non mag

[meager gyro]

so this is good gear?

[wispy pendant]

Is there any aoa spam ships that would prefer the rainbow duck gun over the blue spam guns?

[topaz smelt]

0/6

[whole crypt]

didn't I already say that gun is 🚮

[eager mulch]

maybe, but you only get one mog gun

[soft raft]

Complete dogshit, shit, shit, why is that there, and why is that there respectively

[vale spindle]

anyone with under 100% mg efficiency is a good start

and of those there's a subset who would use the blue speed gun too

[topaz smelt]

even those still prob want mog gun

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

The only case I could think of potentially is scylla

[topaz smelt]

i think she still prefers 76

[wispy pendant]

Kaza

[vale spindle]

you can just blue gun scylla

[sweet delta]

Various gold IJN dds

[umbral goblet]

How's the Mogador?

[eager mulch]

subs

[vale spindle]

assuming devs fixed her dying really fast shes good

[soft raft]

still wonky but at the same time still very worth getting

[wispy pendant]

Bad but there are leaks of a fix that might make her better soon

[topaz smelt]

still doubtful shes good

still prob t0 at best

[whole crypt]

they did but some things still hit her so might depend on what sort of special attacks boss has

[low juniper]

I'ma buy 110 vouchers and get her now

[whole crypt]

well I think of her as a gun version of shimakaze so T0 is fair

[wispy pendant]

Sounds like they plan to make her 5 percent max damage and then bullets torps and ramming things don’t damage her. But lazers might still damage her.

[desert tapir]

I'm sorry what ship is that for
And on what world?

[strange sphinx]

Though any suggestions for DD gun for shimakaze?

[whole crypt]

the problem shouldn't be lasers specifically

[eager mulch]

blue 76mm

[soft raft]

blue 76mm

[vale spindle]

76mm blue rarity

[meager gyro]

alsace, thats the best gear i have

[whole crypt]

it isn't we literally told you that gun is trash

[soft raft]

Out of curiosity, is she even MLB?

[topaz smelt]

shes prob closer to tai yuan without missiles

[meager gyro]

mlb?

[wispy pendant]

You’re either trolling or super stubborn to just follow guides

[soft raft]

Max
Limit
Break

IE Full stars

[eager mulch]

what a let down

[strange sphinx]

still no mag torps... cause the oil

[eager mulch]

manual?

[strange sphinx]

[soft raft]

yeet the oxytorps for toolboxes

[meager gyro]

5/6 stars

[whole crypt]

if you're not playing manual that shimakaze is trash

[sullen creek]

Ia this the power of futuresight

[strange sphinx]

and the evade kit?

[eager mulch]

he xp booked her la

[whole crypt]

she just wants toolkits

[soft raft]

DDs already have crap tons of EVA stat so no

[strange sphinx]

well working on Mag torp

[topaz smelt]

they should be pretty cheap

[whole crypt]

I'm not talking about the torp launcher

[eager mulch]

stop grinding mag torp bps from maps

[strange sphinx]

well finding that Support Paper for IJN

[wispy pendant]

Mag torps should be from gear lab these days, very easy to craft. Or get lucky from ib boxes

[soft raft]

huh? what support paper

[whole crypt]

generic quints are fine the problem is the auxes

[desert tapir]

That gun is really only around for meme buildsm and... I want to say King George.
Its been said before but you want a purple gun. Probably the Triple 406mm MK6. Which you can get in large numbers by combining your gear boxs up to purple rarity in the depot.

[worldly pewter]

the problem is why she has over 300k exp over 125

[soft raft]

how exactly is that a problem?

[eager mulch]

it should be 3 million

[desert tapir]

Still random pull but its a rather frequenst drop. And ,as everyone else as pointed out, the guide considers it second best gun for a reason. Its very relaible.

[eager mulch]

MK7 soon

[soft raft]

Triple NJ gun comps

[eternal basalt]

6/6, not too soon

[eager mulch]

I struggle to fit 2 HE guns in my opsi fleets

[meager gyro]

all the gear i have

[topaz smelt]

120/4m exp is where its at

[worldly pewter]

i need 2 years to get 3 mk7s

[desert tapir]

It will be nice to have it as an option....I'm perputually broke and only just managed to get four tiger cats up. It will be awhile before I can afoird a triple NJ comp.

[whole crypt]

where the heck did the champagne gun go

[eager mulch]

it’s there

open your eyes

[soft raft]

it's next to the whale plushie lol

[whole crypt]

just use this gun and enhance it

[misty tree]

How many Champagne guns is too many?

[sweet delta]

If only there was a guide that rated champ gun highly and not kgv gun

[strange sphinx]

hmmm what should I get for second auxiliary for Shimakaze if I have repair kit?

[soft raft]

another toolkit
Yes the skills dont stack but having more HP is good on DDs

[smoky quest]

What's the most oil efficient stage this event for event points per oil

[sweet delta]

SP and D3 for most people

[desert tapir]

What your craftable gear look like?

[strange sphinx]

[soft raft]

besides min-maxing B1 with 3 oil cost fleets, D maps are the most efficent overall since they have oil cap

[strange sphinx]

oh well that's my bane, even though I already safe the D3... don't have oil

[meager gyro]

not good

[wispy pendant]

I just read guides and looked up transitional gear guides and looked for gear I could work towards obtaining and I went and got it. Put in the work and you’ll get rewarded.

[strange sphinx]

[vale spindle]

Looks good to me

[sweet delta]

Bad torps

[vale spindle]

Actually wait torps suck nvm

[viscid swift]

those are quints not quads

[soft raft]

Sextuple is kind of a waste on her compared to other ships that would have hig prio for it (unless they alredy have better) and Quint mags bruh

[strange sphinx]

yeah

[vale spindle]

sextuple is fine

[viscid swift]

how do you not have enough quads mags for at least those 2

[strange sphinx]

[topaz smelt]

shit torps

[vale spindle]

craft some in gear lab should be easy enough material wise

[strange sphinx]

.... I'm not that farmer in Siren

[vale spindle]

time to pick up the hoe

[strange sphinx]

should I just quadruple purple rarity for transition

[vale spindle]

no you can use a non magnetic torp thats decent instead

[strange sphinx]

I know, I already starting

[vale spindle]

like for example the shimakaze event torp or the quint 533 from this event or the normal gold quint 533

[meager gyro]

how do you get good gear quick?

[strange sphinx]

the white one or the IJN torps?

[vale spindle]

gold ijn torps are not good

[desert tapir]

Time and patience.

[meager gyro]

[vale spindle]

use the white one yes
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment scroll to torps here for more information

[strange sphinx]

shimakaze torp....

totally didn't got lazy

[jaunty vault]

what do you have

[strange sphinx]

bro I just re-download the game after 3 months

[vale spindle]

new event torps arent listed yet since guide still needs to be updated but it will be updated soon tm dont worry

[jaunty vault]

are samvaluations by samheart564 out

[strange sphinx]

and mf I got lazy in Laffey II

[sweet delta]

Are Alsace and Mogador amazing?

[eager mulch]

are coopervaluations by cooperskyler out

[vale spindle]

no not yet

[jaunty vault]

soon™️

[meager gyro]

why tf do i get a 4th alsace?????

[sweet delta]

why tf are you posting that here?????

[kind slate]

This is gear I have rn. I have total of 6200 protocores (from bps and exp packs). Should I get the twin 457 and ply gun from the shop? Or just hang onto them

[viscid swift]

rng and blogging goes to #al-general

[soft raft]

why are you complaining about that?
Many people would probably kill to even get the luck you have

[sweet delta]

what are your gold BB guns like?

[viscid swift]

do you have 3 Champaign guns already?

[kind slate]

I have 2 champy, Soyuz gun and flandre gun

[viscid swift]

good enough, get the 457 and Plymouth gun from the Protocore shop then

[sweet delta]

get a ply gun and i suppose wait until you need a second 457 before buying it

[kind slate]

Will any cl be good with plygun? My Plymouth isn’t dev30 yet

[soft raft]

it's literally the best CL gun in the game

[desert tapir]

So which research for the Research Academy would be best to prioritize for general use gear, if someone has not been making use of the feature and needs to catch up?

[kind slate]

Also should I get any other gear? Like sextuple or other stuff

[sweet delta]

focus on the season (4 or higher) with ships you still need blueprints for

[topaz smelt]

you def want a 2nd 457, could hold a bit depending on needs

[remote yarrow]

Who's a better for 3rd slot in my BB Fleet? Soyuz,Vang + Fdg or UvH? I noticed their dmg are pretty similar but you guys know better

[viscid swift]

UvH

[meager gyro]

this game, i get 6 alsaces but no good gear

[remote yarrow]

Aight

[jaunty vault]

fdg

[remote yarrow]

6 Alsaces?

[viscid swift]

why tf do you keep on pulling, you already got 5 damn coppies

[soft raft]

why is your Alsace still not MLB then if you already got enough to MLB her and then some

[meager gyro]

tilt

[meager gyro]

swag

[viscid swift]

start saving for the next event

[soft raft]

^

[jaunty vault]

hes baiting and you guys are falling for bait like fishes being fished

[remote yarrow]

I think he might be joking cuz theres no way he has enough cubes for 6 Alsaces as a new player

[viscid swift]

the 6th alsace literally has no purpose other than being retired for medals

[jaunty vault]

lol

[topaz smelt]

skin display

[meager gyro]

i got 3 more in 2 builds 😭

[soft raft]

[remote yarrow]

ok he's trolling

[meager gyro]

how?

[sweet delta]

what's @atomic abyss going to do about trolling and off topic

[soft raft]

it is mathmatically imposible to get 3 ships from 2 singular builds

[meager gyro]

i mean like 2 full 10 build batches

[cobalt rapids]

lol

[lament tree]

i said he was a troll from the beginning no one believed me

[viscid swift]

it's not like their account is exactly new either, they probably have boosted income from returnee missions

[remote yarrow]

Unless you provide actual proof I'm just gonna asume you are trolling for reactions

[topaz smelt]

ender aint waking up happy today

[meager gyro]

proof of what?

[remote yarrow]

Having 6 alsaces

[lament tree]

i just assumed bought account with all the account progress they have and yet they seem to not know the basics of basics

[meager gyro]

#trophy-room message

[meager gyro]

i havent played since nj came out and even then i was confused as shit

[remote yarrow]

[jaunty vault]

now what

[eager mulch]

[soft raft]

ignoring the fat that bought accounts are against Terms of service

[jaunty vault]

fat

[meager gyro]

i did not buy an account

[lament tree]

when did NJ come out?

[meager gyro]

its my account, i started playing like 2 or 3 years ago

[jaunty vault]

2021

[eager mulch]

many years ago

[soft raft]

original run was 2021
reran in 2023
and got archived/added to perma 4 months ago

[meager gyro]

can you see ur account age somewhere?

[cobalt rapids]

only during anni

[meager gyro]

so did i beat the troll/bought account accusations now?

[desert tapir]

....I am a little upset yeah. I pulled three UR so far and two were Shinano....

[topaz smelt]

welcome to gph where everyone thinks their better and outsiders are trolls

[viscid swift]

do people seriously forget how easy it is to progress early game and rng is rng

[lament tree]

still think theyre trolling with the stuff they ask

but im just me

[cobalt rapids]

ask and ull be answered, ur status isnt channel relevant

[inner delta]

people forgot they need to crosscheck first before accusing, go look up his chat history on discord, everything lines up with what he said. He might be dense and offtopic but people accuse way too fast

[meager gyro]

hi

[topaz smelt]

why even bother trying to play detective, weird af

[inner delta]

because if i have to warn for trolling i have to actually go backread shit

but people don't do that

[sweet delta]

then you can warn for off topic

[jaunty vault]

i would

[topaz smelt]

sucks to be a mod

[desert tapir]

[jaunty vault]

frfr

[eager mulch]

no one in gph is forced to give or take advice

[lament tree]

thats fair, thats why i said trolling in the first place because of their post history. ill take back bought account accusations tho

[inner delta]

ig you are also dense but w/e move on

[topaz smelt]

idek why you would even care about bought accounts, if ppl ask for help you help

[forest palm]

[jaunty vault]

am i dense too

[hard mesa]

[meager gyro]

so uh for what gear should i farm now?

[whole crypt]

just play the event

[jaunty vault]

depends, what gear do you need

[desert tapir]

Event

[whole crypt]

you don't need to farm any gear for now

[meager gyro]

thats what i dont know

[jaunty vault]

just farm event ig

[cobalt rapids]

have you read equip guide from sam? it lists the poverty options you should aim for

[viscid swift]

you don't need to farm for gear right, what you need to be doing is upgrading the gear you have right now

[jaunty vault]

and do opsi if you can

[meager gyro]

idk

[remote yarrow]

You dont really farm gear, but you can grind Opsi and do research for gear

[viscid swift]

and for that, the event is good because it kills a lot of birds with one stone

[meager gyro]

so i should upgrade all of this?

[desert tapir]

probably not

[whole crypt]

we already told you what you should be using

[viscid swift]

pretty much all the gear I originally reccomended should be at least +6 minimum

[cobalt rapids]

the main gun and the auxes

[viscid swift]

some of the better gears should be at +10 if you have the plates

[eager mulch]

and coins

[cobalt rapids]

purple radar can stay at +6 actually

[meager gyro]

like?

[remote yarrow]

That main gun for example

[viscid swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241486787369762836/1241490892653592616/image.png?ex=6652f5be&is=6651a43e&hm=9206d03466bdbc20f769dc00b011bb4b6a3f64a9c1311b3d78dbc19a924a7623&

[eager mulch]

[desert tapir]

Main Gun + 10
Shell + 10

..If you run Ayaname as a destroyer in your vangaurd then make the blue Seconday gun a +10 and give it to her. ( at least I think thats the one for her.

[cobalt rapids]

you cannot make the blue gun +10

[eager mulch]

can’t make 76mm +10

[desert tapir]

ah. good to know... I don;t run Ayaname.

[elfin hollow]

question, is mogator in the drop rate of ships we get from event stages?

[eager mulch]

no

[soft raft]

nope
shop only

[whole crypt]

Shimakaze wants that same gun, and you use it at +6

[elfin hollow]

darn

[cobalt rapids]

mogador is only shop exchange, check pins for vouchers sources

[eager mulch]

I use it at +7

[whole crypt]

7 is fine I guess

[desert tapir]

Don't run her either. My go to Destroyer Is Laffey.

[whole crypt]

I enhanced mine to 7 because I just kept clicking but you're not going to see any real difference

[eager mulch]

I’d use shima over laffey

[remote yarrow]

Why +6 I use it +7 on mine

[whole crypt]

my go-to destroyer is Cassin and Downes

[lament tree]

[meager gyro]

so uhhh this gear might not be up to date anymore, i had to make some "sacrifices"

[viscid swift]

what

[soft raft]

[desert tapir]

Cassin is used for low clearing worlds with Uni.

[viscid swift]

please don't tell you me scrapped some of that gear

[meager gyro]

needed plates to upgrade some other stuff

[eager mulch]

[whole crypt]

no you didn't

[viscid swift]

......

[soft raft]

bruh moment

[desert tapir]

[whole crypt]

you don't scrap gear recommedations asked you to keep

[viscid swift]

of all the ways to obtain plates, scrapping useful gear is the LAST thing you do

[whole crypt]

you just wait for more plates later

[sweet delta]

👉 🧵 and have fun

[stark quiver]

[soft raft]

scrapping gear is a extremely inefficent way of getting plates
Especially if you Upgraded said gear

[meager gyro]

didnt know how to get them otherwise quickly 😭

[whole crypt]

there's no quickly, you just grind and wait

[topaz smelt]

events, medals, dont burn them on shit gear

[whole crypt]

now you have no plates and no gear

[wispy pendant]

What do people think of brennus?

[stark quiver]

this game isnt a speedrun

[topaz smelt]

shitty roon

[whole crypt]

garden variety SR CA

[soft raft]

Average SR CA outside of the EVA tech

[eager mulch]

+1 CA eva

[sweet delta]

NJ variety SR CA?

[desert tapir]

Webutanwhyandwesaidguide.... Welp I'm go play another game that can't hurt my sould like this for awhile. Have a good day peoples..

[meager gyro]

thats true

[elfin hollow]

how good is alsace?

[topaz smelt]

ur bb

[soft raft]

UR BB gud

[meager gyro]

so how cooked is my account?

[eager mulch]

raw

[soft raft]

barely cooked

[whole crypt]

if you don't know what you're doing maybe don't make your own decisions after asking for advice, then come back to tell us it didn't work

[stark quiver]

not cooked unless you do more shit

[desert tapir]

Skywalkerd

[elfin hollow]

Im questioning purely cuz I have soyuz, musashi, and NJ

[soft raft]

it would've been really cooked if you spent gems on dorm space, skins, or scrapped the hedgehog

[soft raft]

she easily blows NJ out of the water

[meager gyro]

[elfin hollow]

really?

[soft raft]

Newest UR BB VS Oldest UR BB moment

[elfin hollow]

so far NJ is doing me wonders

hows mogador then?

[soft raft]

mogador's still a bit wonky but still worth getting

[whole crypt]

look, just take what you have and run the event
come back if you have trouble clearing the event
stop enhancing and scrapping gear we didn't tell you to if you don't know what is good use or scrap

[viscid swift]

she's a glass cannon

[worldly pewter]

what is the hardest content u did so far ?

[cobalt rapids]

w15

[elfin hollow]

ima be honest, i just casually play the game so my stages are early

i still get URs super early tho

[eager mulch]

minigame high scores

[worldly pewter]

she ship difference begins to appear the more advanced u go in the game because most of the early stages are done with most of the ships

[topaz smelt]

trying to fix gph

[cobalt rapids]

nj works great in w15 as a bosser

[topaz smelt]

shes fine on mobs as well

[eager mulch]

I can vouch for that

[cobalt rapids]

didnt try it

[viscid swift]

there were attempts to fix this channel

[soft raft]

now that I think about it, how would Alsace fare in W15?
I could see her preload helping clear out mobs to get to the boss faster

[eager mulch]

go test it

[viscid swift]

no worse than FDG at least probably

[topaz smelt]

i tihnk her barrage miss

[elfin hollow]

are there UR front lines? I only know of Unzen that I have

[cobalt rapids]

i can her clearing first wave faster and then having naka live for longer

[whole crypt]

Shimakaze, Laffey II and now moggies

[eager mulch]

Unzen, Guam, laffii, shimakaze, moggie, kron

[soft raft]

Shimakaze, yuudachi retro, Laffey II, Drake, hindenburg, every CB that isnt Kala, Mogador

[whole crypt]

somehow I managed to forget all the CBs

[eager mulch]

some of those are DRs

[viscid swift]

all these

[elfin hollow]

I see.... idk anything about team building so i just put my favorites ngl

[soft raft]

oh yeh ply and sandy lol

[eager mulch]

no moggie dupe 🐢

[sacred silo]

whats wrong with spending gems on dorm space

[worldly pewter]

and the bulin too

[soft raft]

3rd dorm slot is fine
It just gets very very expensive afterwards

like you sure as hell wont be getting 6th dorm slot off of purely F2P gems

[elfin hollow]

Alsace is looking hella fine so im thinking of getting her skin. Is story the only content that gives gem?

[cobalt rapids]

above 4 slots spending gems on dorm is detrimental due to reasons listed in this doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KVOhAOz9wwZK0gQON0PLJrDkPEp6vg66Fh8U2LoYG4/edit

[kind slate]

Is it worth to get any gold gear (like sextuple) from protoshop? Aside from champy guns

[cobalt rapids]

its fine if u got the other prios

[whole crypt]

BFGs

[kind slate]

What’s a bfg

[soft raft]

only consistent way of getting gems is the good ol 💳

[whole crypt]

big friendly giantBF-109Gs

[vestal thistle]

What to buy and what to do now

I also had the rate up sr

The swords girl

[kind slate]

So after getting all ur gear, I can start considering the others?

[soft raft]

get pennsylvania (or possibly Hood from medal shop) and Helena from guild shop then do the following
Pennsylvania or Hood/Unicorn/Volga Karl/Laffey/Helena

you currenly lack suicde boat interception which is a bad idea outside of W13 mob

[night pumice]

with opsi and w9 open, should I start looking at a second fleet?

[worldly pewter]

if u get all the UR gear and still struggling with the SR one then u did something wrong somewhere

[stark quiver]

check pins

[vestal thistle]

My bad one Pic missing

[elfin hollow]

musashi does so much dmg

[kind slate]

So I don’t need to get gold gear from protocore?

[elfin hollow]

may I ask why? her kit seems a bit too much with her sword fall and homing lightning

[worldly pewter]

once u get the UR u will find urself not needing anything from the protocore shop

[soft raft]

Nelson instead of Pennsylvania then

[vestal thistle]

What about the others
The sr

[kind slate]

Aside from ply cuz not d30, which should would be best with plygun?

[meager gyro]

shiii ur accounts almost as good as mine if not better

[soft raft]

Besides Volga, none of them are really gonna see much use

[forest palm]

Helena

literally any CL that doesn't use a DD gun

[kind slate]

Would I use Helena in w14?

[soft raft]

No

[forest palm]

nope

[worldly pewter]

most likely u use the UR bulins on alsace

[vestal thistle]

Ber and Allen m?

[remote yarrow]

[vestal thistle]

What about the other ur

[soft raft]

Ig Allen could see use, esp if you lack other options for AA carry, but she falls off quite easily compared to more acessible DDs

And Bearn META looks to be decent, but she's easily replaced

[vestal thistle]

Bremerton?

[soft raft]

Average CA
She's beaten by Portland in terms of tankiness and there are better damage CAs than her

[forest palm]

Bearn META is hard to recommend for 2 main reasons, not enough testing, and she's an unnecessary resource dump for new to mid game palyers

[cobalt rapids]

after you got all the prios in /protocore yes u can consider getting other gold gear

[vestal thistle]

I can get all her crystals

And what about the ur ship in shop

[forest palm]

yes, but you still need enhancement mats, and you'll have to spend 5 skill books per skill

[vestal thistle]

? Doesn't meta auto level

[viscid swift]

priority for the event shop is

enough vouchers to get the first copy of Mogador if necessary > The DD Gun > Torps >= Bearn META and her crystals

[vestal thistle]

Skills

[viscid swift]

you need to sepnd skill books to unlock them in the first place

[vestal thistle]

Did

[viscid swift]

5 T3 skill books of the same color as the skill each

[keen sable]

Far less than you would need normally

[vestal thistle]

Have plenty

[sharp crest]

is there an extended guide on how to choose what gears to use? Like some type of chart or a document explaining everything it takes into account hen gearing something. Ik there are guides on yt, but from what I’ve seen, they just say a couple of good gears and that’s it.

[viscid swift]

they're still gonna take an age to level up since you're not really gonna be doing OpSi with her

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /equip

[viscid swift]

not to mention you won't have the mats to enhance her either probably

[sharp crest]

k ty

[worldly pewter]

although kron is lb1 i think it is safer to assume that investing in alsace is a lot better overall
i need someone to confirm this

[vestal thistle]

One is level 3 already

[vestal thistle]

I meant the one in shop

[worldly pewter]

she is in the last priority after kron i think

[vestal thistle]

Why?

[worldly pewter]

so alsace -> kron -> potential vanguard -> mogador

[vestal thistle]

Vanguard?

[viscid swift]

I'd still place Moagdor a priority over Kronshtadt

[kind slate]

Are the ddgs or Tashkent good in w14+?

[worldly pewter]

another battleship

[vestal thistle]

Don't have her

[worldly pewter]

so going with cheeky's suggestion if u lower kron's priority u want to focus on the research ships since there are 2 strong tanks in there

[cobalt rapids]

ddg are good in 14
not so much in 15

[worldly pewter]

especially in the pr4

[worldly pewter]

UR bulins are in a scarcity compared to the ship releases so i tend to plan beforehand

[vestal thistle]

I am doing Saint Louis

How to get tech points

[worldly pewter]

what i advise to do here is don't touch the catchup of the pr1->pr3
and do the DR of pr4 which are agir and haku

[vestal thistle]

Already have all aiger BP but can't do her yet

Sure
agir is my current goal

But how

[worldly pewter]

if u want kms u have to stop saint louis research now and move immediately to roon
there is also a war archive that has a handful of kms ships that can drop there

i don't advise u to do it now though unless u are done from this event

[viscid swift]

give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[vestal thistle]

OK

[viscid swift]

but right now your goal should not be grinding fleet tech, or really focusing on PR as a whole

[worldly pewter]

so basically roon + divergent chessboard -> fdg from pr2 then agir

[viscid swift]

right now you should be focus on clearing and farming D3 of the event and start looking into getting a 2nd fleet going and retrofitting Unicorn

[silk helm]

when does pr become a focus? is it okay if i started one? cuz i didn't know what it was

[cobalt rapids]

the focus is the roman literal u have selected on ur research screen i en

grinding pr is when u reach w12 ideally

[worldly pewter]

yeah there are 2 type of focus e

[viscid swift]

PR doesn't become a main priority until you've reached W12, when you have 2 good fleets going a good spot to sustain the resources needed for PR, mainly coins

[silk helm]

okie cool. so i selected saint louis but won't spend the resources on it then

i'm broke af right now anyways

[lament tree]

Now I rest

[eager mulch]

you missed two spots

[lament tree]

Is laffey next?

[cobalt rapids]

portland

[lament tree]

She's done

[silk helm]

wait do u need those two spots?

[cobalt rapids]

then laffey yea

[eager mulch]

I’d rather have them than not

[remote yarrow]

Don't really need them but it's good to have them

[silk helm]

roger roger

[eager mulch]

Hit and avi are my 2nd and 3rd favorite stats

[remote yarrow]

And since Unicorn is probably the ship you are gonna use the most why not get all the upgrades

[cobalt rapids]

whats ur first favorite

[eager mulch]

rld

[meager gyro]

ok chat we somehow cleared sp with an a rank

[silk helm]

what's after laffey? saratoga yuudachi?

[eager mulch]

saratoga/nelson/

I prefer myself but I’m quite biased

[remote yarrow]

Probably Nelson first so you have a decent BB for your second fleet

Sara works fine pre retro

[silk helm]

good shout. i do not have any good BB

[lament tree]

1k oil for 110 event currency is wild

[lament tree]

Helena retro is that low on prio?

[meager gyro]

is it even possilble to beat ex stage?

[eager mulch]

helena retro isn’t necessarily early

i beat ex stage

[meager gyro]

couldnt even shave off 10 health bars lmao

[lament tree]

How am I supposed to get 50k event points

[remote yarrow]

Event lasts 3 weeks for a reason

[vale thicket]

Hello there! I am somewhat new to the game and have a few questions if they're not already answered somewhere else ;

Where would be a good place to get backstory/history on the game and it's factions? Playing through this recent event [Which has been a little confusing, but very interesting] and it's story has me intrigued and i'm not sure if there's a wider arc to delve into!

I'm also curious on any generalized gameplay advice, what level/fleet power to begin taking on certain things, any tips for gathering/using oil effeciently, or if there's a general guide place to look for this sort of info! Apologies if this is already answered elsewhere

[remote yarrow]

So even players that don't get event points fast have an opportunity

[lament tree]

I can only get like, 700 a day

[meager gyro]

i got moggador but no gear for her

[lament tree]

That's not even 1/4 of 50k after 2 weeks

[remote yarrow]

1. Probably memories but actual lore over at #al-lore
2. General gameplay advice over in this channel and with sam's guides

[viscid swift]

Hi

1. might want to go to #al-lore for that
2. you might want to give Sam's fleet building guide a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[vale thicket]

Gotcha! Thank you both so much, I appreciate the guidance <3

[eager mulch]

[meager gyro]

how much event should i farm?

[remote yarrow]

Though 1k oil for 100 points looks rough , where are you farming? B3?

[lament tree]

I'm going to be barely able to get new gun and a single copy of mogador

[eager mulch]

55k points minimum is what most (cheeky) would say

[lament tree]

C3

[silk helm]

why not d1?

[lament tree]

What's the difference

[remote yarrow]

oilcap

[silk helm]

d1 oil cap

[remote yarrow]

You should try to get to D1 or farm at C2 trying to lower your oil consumption

[lament tree]

Maybe unicorn will make D1 easier

[eager mulch]

yes

[lament tree]

Who is amagi

[eager mulch]

gold IJN BC

[lament tree]

Gold what?

[remote yarrow]

Some ship with health issues

[lament tree]

Reminds me of the personality test

[sweet delta]

gold Imperial Japanese Navy BattleCruiser

[eager mulch]

gold sakura empire BC

[lament tree]

O

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Amagi this one

[lament tree]

Is she good?

[eager mulch]

she’s ok

amagi-chan is cuter tho

[lament tree]

There's a difference?

[remote yarrow]

She's smaller

[lament tree]

Like little enterprise?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah

[eager mulch]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Amagi-chan

[lament tree]

Are ship girls heavy, can you trip them

How often does UR ships get released?

[soft raft]

we've basically narrowed down the pattern to Febuary, May, Septemer, and December

[remote yarrow]

Like new ones? 3 months

[viscid swift]

new one get's released at this point every February, May, September, and December

and of course a pair of DRs every July

[eager mulch]

at this point we have to start saying “ur events” instead of just “urs” if they keep doing double events

[lament tree]

Murm?

[eager mulch]

murmansk

[soft raft]

I 'd you because your question is nonsensical and not for this channel

[eager mulch]

[lament tree]

[soft raft]

it's basically a "Bruh" emote in terms of usage

[lament tree]

Man, since unicorn retrofit, my health hasn't gone below 9/10th

[meager gyro]

seems like its a me issue

[lament tree]

I'd say it's very sensical but I'll agree with the second part

I wonder how much of a difference laffey retro would make

[remote yarrow]

Not that impactful if you compare her to Uni's

But she's still decent

[lament tree]

Is it her skill change that's so drastic?

[meager gyro]

how much even should i farm?

[remote yarrow]

Atleast 55k

[meager gyro]

[soft raft]

As much as you can

[blazing shale]

at least until the UR bulin

[meager gyro]

how even

[blazing shale]

which is 30k iirc

[lament tree]

Your the person they mentioned

[meager gyro]

i got 20k atm

[lament tree]

Does SP drop the most currency?

[remote yarrow]

Well you can just go for the Bulin too, but some milestones are 30/55/70

[eager mulch]

yes but you can only do it once daily

[soft raft]

yes (It drops 800) but you can only do it once a day

[eager mulch]

aim for 55k, get at least 30k is what I’d say

[lament tree]

How much oil are you guys burning through?

[eager mulch]

not enough

[viscid swift]

too much but not on the event

[remote yarrow]

I've burned about 20k? I think and I'm at 38k points

[vale thicket]

Oh! I did notice that there is a pending evaluation on the Alsace/Mogador ships ; When were those expected to come? I'm curious to see if theyre viable and good n stuff x3

[eager mulch]

B1 mines?

[meager gyro]

theres no bulin in the shop?

[eager mulch]

you get a bulin when you’ve farmed 30k event points

[viscid swift]

nah, just cruising through the rest of the event with SP and one clear a day of the normal maps

[lament tree]

Should I just be farming the event every day then?

[meager gyro]

cool how it says that anywhere at all

[eager mulch]

You can check rewards on the point accumulation tab of the events page and see it there

[remote yarrow]

It does tho, over at Milestone rewards

[lament tree]

Rather, Only farming the event

Since my oil income is limited and don't have 40k in mail reserves like others do

[remote yarrow]

For future reference every new UR event has a UR Bulin at 30k total points and for reruns I think it's at 15k

[soft raft]

yeah 15k

[viscid swift]

I haven't touched my mail since starting the event

[soft raft]

I dont even store oil in my mail and I'm still grinding fine
Oil cap my beloved

[lament tree]

You should donate some oil to me then

[eager mulch]

i store oil in my mail not to use but i like seeing the number get bigger and bigger

[lament tree]

What's it at

[eager mulch]

it’s not much compared to some people but it’s at

[blazing shale]

elaborate

[remote yarrow]

Atleast get the gems one

[lament tree]

Oh, they were talking about event currency and mentioned you saying you'd recommend 50k. That's all. I just recognized your name

[meager gyro]

wheres that?

[stone sluice]

Mob fleet
BZ/Soyuz/Alsace, Unicorn, Aquila
Brest, Laffey II, Shimanto
Boss fleet
Yorktown II, Shinano, Hakuryuu
Guam, Kazagumo, Plymouth

I don’t have Musashi and I’ll try ch15 prolly after her rerun but I want to plan ahead. These fleets could work? If so, how many wyvern and flapjack should I get total? Besides how many rainbow AA guns? I currently own 2 sextuple bofor guns but no rainbow AA guns

[remote yarrow]

Events tab

[eager mulch]

don’t wanna

[meager gyro]

holy fuck that game is confusing

[silk helm]

when does oil not become a limitation? are you just not playing lolol

[soft raft]

not really once you get used to it

[eager mulch]

oil cap is game changing

I’m also late enough where there’s not much to grind for

[lament tree]

Holy- 110 currency for 1290 oil versus 120 currency for 580 oil. Oil cap is no joke

[eager mulch]

W16 waiting room

[lament tree]

Oil cap my beloved

[silk helm]

i think it should be 120 x 3

[lament tree]

I'm doing x3 and getting 12p

120*

I think

[eager mulch]

D1 gives 120 points

[lament tree]

40 per run then?

[eager mulch]

120 per

[lament tree]

So C3 gave 110 for 3 runs at 1290 oil, while D1 gives 360 for 3 runs at 560 oil

[cobalt rapids]

tortle was a dalao

[eager mulch]

I’m turtle

[lament tree]

That's actually insane

[remote yarrow]

Welcome to Oilcap

[lament tree]

What Worlds should I be doing for retrofit mats

[cobalt rapids]

highest for coredata

[lament tree]

I know 1-4 gives certain types

[soft raft]

X-1 for DD
X-2 for CL/CA
X-3 for BB/BC
X-4 for CV/CVL
And you do the highest world you can because higher world = more core data per run

[cobalt rapids]

the stage depends on what u need

[lament tree]

I've been doing w-5 but I'm at w-9

[eager mulch]

95 core data / day

I don’t know what to spend core data on

[lament tree]

What are these for?

[eager mulch]

chat frame

[cobalt rapids]

i think dalaos such as urself farm fleet power

[eager mulch]

not something I’d concern myself with as a new player

[lament tree]

Dalaos?

[cobalt rapids]

veterans

[eager mulch]

fleet power dream ended when I retired event limited porples

[vale spindle]

looks fine

[lament tree]

Cool

[vale spindle]

obviously want to improve the aa gun eventually but you are in no state to do so rn

[lament tree]

Why can't I buy laffey's skin

[vale spindle]

you have 0 gems

[cobalt rapids]

some skins are limited

[lament tree]

Coming soon

[vale spindle]

oh if it says coming soon it means the skin is limited and you gotta wait for the event to come back

[soft raft]

also like why would you buy skins with F2P gems

[remote yarrow]

Soon ™️

[lament tree]

Because I'm not f2p

[remote yarrow]

Thanks for supporting the game

[lament tree]

Can someone show me what javelin retro looks like

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki javelin

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Javelin
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Javelin/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Javelin/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Javelin's_Monthly_Manga
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Monthly_Manga_Javelin
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Full_Burst_Javelin

May 25, 2024, 8:59 PM

[sweet delta]

Death's Shadow              Light   999,999  0    0    20   14   68   50   0    116  -100
2:57-2:45 invisible and invincible for 12s
2:45 fire a barrage (the purple/red sector thingy)
2:43 summon 2 adds (the drones thingies)

(
2:42-2:20 invisible and invincible for 22s
2:20 fire a barrage
2:18 summon 2 adds
) repeat on a 25s cycle...```

[lament tree]

She looks Neat

Should I get Colorado from guild shop

[cobalt rapids]

do u have nelson

[lament tree]

Yes

[cobalt rapids]

just wait on nelson then

[lament tree]

Nelson isn't even in the guild shop tho

[eager mulch]

but you have nelson

[lament tree]

Yes

[sweet delta]