gameplay-help

[remote yarrow]

They don't tho

[cobalt rapids]

They use cubes and good prios

[viscid swift]

people don't dev 30 a DR in one month fresh on release, it's not possible realistically

[copper pine]

DR is like 45 days

[viscid swift]

soonest is around 2 months in usually

[signal plover]

2 months is still very fast

[copper pine]

if you have the best luck, like 45-75 days are the fastest

[signal plover]

I feel like I've been in pr5 for ages

[copper pine]

but for people like myself who procrastinate a lot, took me like 5 months to get all PR6 set to 30

[viscid swift]

it takes 4-6 months from scratch without cubing, catchup, or coining max with good research selection and uptime

[cobalt rapids]

Uve been for about 0-2 years time

[signal plover]

Souka, I definitely have poor uptime
I guess researches should be always up

[copper pine]

0-2 years? more like since 2020

[remote yarrow]

Maybe you haven't been picking up good researches or bad rng

[inland shoal]

Wait you had access to PR5 in 2020 already?

[cobalt rapids]

I was replying to this

[remote yarrow]

Cuz I think I'm at... 3 months? into PR5 and this is my current progress

[signal plover]

I always pick up basic research, gold donation or cognition

[copper pine]

no, i thought the 0-2 years is about how long i played kek

[viscid swift]

that is most certainly not helping

[remote yarrow]

That doesn't sound great

[signal plover]

That's very cool
Gg

[signal plover]

What should be priority?

[viscid swift]

give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_project_priority

[remote yarrow]

I mostly prioritize UR Faces > Q type > G type

[copper pine]

research that you should be prioritizing are, G-412's, Q for the weapons, face researches, then others if rainbow is up, use that chance

[signal plover]

So these

[copper pine]

isn't G research better than face?

[cobalt rapids]

Not for ship focus

[silk helm]

i pulled alsace within 10 pulls. i still have like 200 cubes left, should i just save now? im new and i feel like i dont have enough like yellow ships

[signal plover]

Brain always go
Ship image = good

[remote yarrow]

You are good like that

Most SRs aren't game changing in reality

[signal plover]

Perseus

[tranquil saffron]

Hammer or duel swords for Mogador?
Mob fleet

[remote yarrow]

Unicorn exists

[cobalt rapids]

Perseus what

[silk helm]

okie ty

[signal plover]

Sorry I'm not into uni

[dusky narwhal]

How good is Alsace? Like what URs is she better than?

[signal plover]

Jokes aside
How much diff there is between uni and Persy?

[copper pine]

like it or not, she is the best from early stage to late stages of the game

[inland shoal]

Quite a bit especially in w14

[tranquil saffron]

Too soon

[south sequoia]

Uni is better overall due to
Accessibility and the fact she has damage after her preloads

Perseus only relies on her 2 preloads at the start

[hard mesa]

Consistent dmg

[signal plover]

Gotcha

[copper pine]

also isn't perseus reload is like +90% longer after the 2 preloads?

[sweet delta]

Perseus is really good in chapter 15, only 🤏 worse than unicorn

[south sequoia]

After that, in campaign she is just a sitting duck.

[south sequoia]

This too however ^^

[dusky narwhal]

Oh alright then! Is she better at mobbing or bossing? Can we tell that at least?

[soft raft]

So far she looks to be a sidegrade to BisZwei and Soyuz from what I remember
And she can do either boss or mob perfectly fine

[signal plover]

I like Persy big burst of heal

[south sequoia]

Perseus + Uni unironically in w15

[viscid swift]

no idea how tf that one works out

[dusky narwhal]

Oh cool I have them both though so for meta fights just use all of them or is musashi still pretty difficult to replace?

[soft raft]

nah Soyuz Booted Musashi out

[tranquil saffron]

I have no idea

[copper pine]

btw i forgot the terms sidegrade, is it 1A or 1.5?

[dusky narwhal]

So now just go soyuz, bisko zwei and Alsace?

[signal plover]

What main fleet should I use if I want to make aircraft only for bossing?
I know that SR destroyer is needed btw

[cobalt rapids]

Bossing where

[sweet delta]

Depends on the battle

[signal plover]

What about meta or opsi?

[sweet delta]

By SR destroyer do you mean btd-1 destroyer

[copper pine]

i didn't play the game seriously for a while, so i forgot the AL Terms okie....

[eager mulch]

SR destroyer?

[viscid swift]

I'm guessing they mean Kazagumo

[signal plover]

Kazumo or something

[viscid swift]

I'm a fucking fortune teller

[inland shoal]

I have absolutely no fucking clue what you are talking about

[inland shoal]

It was pretty obvious tbh

[cobalt rapids]

Meta is specific
Opsi is only 3x specific

[eager mulch]

but Kazagumo isn’t necessary, and neither is gold btd destroyer

[sweet delta]

I kicked Kazagumo off my aspiring one strike strength team

[signal plover]

Why can't I say Belfast is the best?

[sweet delta]

Read the channel rules

[copper pine]

the terms of Sidegrade, is it 1A or below 1

[south sequoia]

Theres no terms?

[dusky narwhal]

Current meta fight

[south sequoia]

Its just sidegrade

[signal plover]

Doing it rn

[south sequoia]

We never had terms for sidegrade its just sidegrade

[sweet delta]

Wtf is 1A

[viscid swift]

Willesden Depot

[cobalt rapids]

Uhm whats ur question again

[sweet delta]

Triple BB sucks for the current meta

[copper pine]

1A is basically that term, but i sometime interpreted like this

[soft raft]

There's a few comps for that in the pins but the key thing for Modney fight is to deliberately desync your backline within at least 1.5s of eachother

[signal plover]

Ok, I'm either idiot or blind
Why I can't?

[dusky narwhal]

Oh well what is the deciding factor on when you can use that triple BB team? Armor types?

[sweet delta]

It's off topic chatter and nobody asked whether Belfast is the best

[copper pine]

huh?

[signal plover]

Ooh
I was just saying@viscid swift is the best for guessing kazumo
I said Belfast since he has Belfast pfp

[sweet delta]

Depends on the boss skills, stats, armor type, and basically everything. But triple BB works for all meta showdowns, sometimes better sometimes worse than CVs

[eager mulch]

mod is here

[inland shoal]

Well for this meta the deciding factor is that she has 7 "immortal" addons that BBs waste a lot of their dmg on

[south sequoia]

Okay that sounded worse than I thought about it inmy head

[sweet delta]

But cheeky isn't the best so that's misinfo

[signal plover]

What about aircraft fleet for meta?

[copper pine]

hakuryuu and shinano

[signal plover]

I do have shinano

[copper pine]

do you have haku at 30 or even better, FS5?

[signal plover]

Implacable?

[soft raft]

sometimes better than BB, sometimes worse
Depends on the specific fight

But if you mean who you would use, most of the time Haku and Shinano are staples along with a freeze like Implac or AvP

[copper pine]

i would put nagato for this current meta.. its actually working oddly enough

[dusky narwhal]

Oh makes sense! I don't have many good CVs so yeah that's why I usually just ask about the BBs but thanks for explaining!

[signal plover]

Gotcha
What can I use I stead of Haku?

[chilly birch]

Does anyone else have any issues with Mogadors l2d skin looping the animations like how St Louis's was before it got patched?

[soft raft]

Depends on who you have in your dock

[south sequoia]

This is more of an #al-general question

[remote yarrow]

Erm I don't think gph can help with that

[signal plover]

Should have everyone worth mentioning except lab ships

[dry zenith]

Enty or york2 maybe? If no haku

[copper pine]

if we are talking damage wise, enterprise is a good shot, but since i did say shinano and nagato, it was meant to help IJN carriers do more damage

[cobalt rapids]

U can run implac since newish players wont meet timings and implac can secure her own ordnance hitting
but u can just take w.e dmg and use call support function

[eager mulch]

nagato niche and isn’t great in opsi bossing

[signal plover]

Gotcha
Nagato is a bb tho, right?

[copper pine]

im using meta fight for specific, but if we are talking in general, even avp is good for it if you don't have impla

[remote yarrow]

Yeah but she's used in CM or META for buffing Shinano and Haku

[topaz smelt]

Nagato fucking blows

[remote yarrow]

True

[copper pine]

she blows 1600 cubes of mine...

[topaz smelt]

There's no point if he doesn't have the tech and gear

[copper pine]

unfortunately yes

[signal plover]

For meta I definitely call support
I wanted to make a aircraft fleet more for the desire to try it against meta bosses

[warm flax]

Nagato buffs better than Soyuz?

[inland shoal]

He doesn't have Haku anyway

[remote yarrow]

He skipped PR4 after getting Agir and AvP

[copper pine]

b-but why

[remote yarrow]

Now I wonder if they are even D30

[dusky narwhal]

By the way how good is the UR in shop? I don't have any UR DDs other than Yuudachi natural but I don't know what the new one does exactly

[eager mulch]

AvP wants fs5

[remote yarrow]

Also true

[viscid swift]

Glass cannon basically

[inland shoal]

She's still being worked on so no idea

[signal plover]

I have imp, shinano and york2 as ur carriers

[inland shoal]

She's basically free tho

[cobalt rapids]

Some1s fleet could not work for u,
Rodm has specific timings u have to adapt if u want an optimal fleet

[signal plover]

So shinano and imp can be there

[dusky narwhal]

Yeah I'ma get her just asking what she's good at cuz I need a better mob vanguard

[radiant mesa]

Should I use Portland or Brennus for tanking? I just got Brennus and she seems to be pretty good. (I’m commander level 16)

[dry zenith]

York2 is more light medium, but she's still a UR cv

[high sentinel]

So whats up with the large destroyer, any good?

[dry zenith]

She just can't do the focused torp barrage like shinano and haku

[high sentinel]

Got it

[eager mulch]

??? She absolutely can

she has less torpedo bombers yes but she can still use them??

[dry zenith]

I mean she doesn't have double torp planes

[remote yarrow]

So now I have this suggestion for @signal plover you were asking before about Hinden or Kear after being done with Ply, why not go back to PR4 and get yourself Anchorage and Haku Fs5 instead?

[high sentinel]

P.S, I did not mean the skill, I meant the ships overall quality, is it any good and worth using.

[dry zenith]

I didn't mean she couldn't do it at all lol, just that it's not her focus

[tacit cape]

How to switch between secretaries or go into clear/no ui mode now?

[copper pine]

that's extra 6 months on his/her shoulder

[viscid swift]

She's still WIP basically so we can't say for certain right now

[high sentinel]

Okay thanks

[eager mulch]

bruh, a CV’s focus is whatever planes you give them

[inland shoal]

Yeah as was said glass cannon, very high dps low survivability. Probably pretty good in mob already I'd assume

[signal plover]

Gotcha, thx
Is a good idea to copy other people fleets, in particular those that do 1mln dmg when I send help request?

[remote yarrow]

Anchorage is coinable and Haku has catchup I doubt it's 6 months I think

[topaz smelt]

likely not

[inland shoal]

No you probably don't have the tech even if you did have the gear and oaths

[copper pine]

depends on how lazy he is or diligent

[topaz smelt]

if you dont have the tech or gear for it, it wont work

[signal plover]

cause I'm a sucker for hind and I really would love to have her at Dr 30

[remote yarrow]

Well I tried

[topaz smelt]

i dont think hinds been used for any meta fights yet

[viscid swift]

Oh trust me I already talked to them about PR focus

[signal plover]

So tech is super important too, uh?

[topaz smelt]

its the difference between getting 3 strike and 4

[soft raft]

Good ol RLD tech

[inland shoal]

Wrong I used her

[topaz smelt]

srry i only talk to ppl whos killed her

[viscid swift]

I used her to mop up some old dossiers

[inland shoal]

It was a killing comp

[eager mulch]

think we should ask wilting if he’s brought golden hind to a meta fight yet

[copper pine]

damn this was... condescending at best

[signal plover]

Are there any general rules on how to build a good fleet?
Cause I honestly feel confused between what is the best for opsi and what is for meta
Most I know is to use certain weapons on certain armors (iirc armor modifiers are written in the gear) and try to synergize skills (I.e. Kazumo for CVS or Plymouth for bb)

[topaz smelt]

copy ppl who build good comps

[inland shoal]

That + timing is what mostly goes into it tbh

Just figuring out what really works out well isn't that easy

[signal plover]

Feel like I shouldn't

[inland shoal]

Well the ppl that build good comps and share them tell you what gear oaths and tech to use so you can select one you can actually copy

[remote yarrow]

Just follow CN comp It's a learning curve tbh, you get what X ship does and what she excels at or what she's useful in what type of fleet and figure out what works, but at the end of the day it's just understanding the game at a high level

[patent pivot]

When you've got lots of buffs on diff schedules, draw a timeline. Keep yourself from trying to plybuff a preload

[remote yarrow]

Cuz I can build like simple fleets for X world but there's no way I can figure out 1 shot Fleets for CM or META fights

[topaz smelt]

but none of them work a lot of comps have very particular tech settings thats required for it to work, blindly copying a fleet often wont work too well

[remote yarrow]

True

[copper pine]

just, build up your fleets first. slowly but surely

[signal plover]

Souka
I just feel like my knowledge is very surface lvl
Like biscuit zwei flagship cause weird skill
Vanguard side cause buffs bb
Soyouz cause buffs too
Don't even know if this is correct

[copper pine]

biscuit

[remote yarrow]

The only one that you kinda got right is Vanguard

[soft raft]

BisZwei doesnt need flagship
And Soyuz primarily buffs herself and other Northern Parliment ships

[signal plover]

Doesn't soyuz have a debuff?

[copper pine]

what other NP ship that is good tho :p

other than kron

[eager mulch]

volga

[copper pine]

ah and volga

[kind needle]

Is it what I think it is? Idk missed on the cubes, whose ship is it

[soft raft]

Yes
that's in a sepreate skill than her NP buff

[hard mesa]

Nope

[eager mulch]

A) I don’t know what you’re thinking. B) I don’t care

[soft raft]

That is the Lexington on the image

[remote yarrow]

idk figure it out and post it in #trophy-room cuz this is gph

[kind needle]

Idk the build times ngl

[eager mulch]

well it’s definitely not alsace

[kind needle]

They say 5 hours up is good

[inland shoal]

Just use a quick finisher

[signal plover]

So...
Vanguard stays
If biscuit2 doesnt need flagship she can go side
Musashi on flagship for her skill?

[remote yarrow]

She's 6:12:20 so you are way far off

[kind needle]

Alr got her so, yeah. No issues bulins

[soft raft]

That sounds like extreme 🧢

[patent pivot]

on med/light BiZ is highest dmg BB and thus she gets flag for ply buff

[remote yarrow]

5 hours up good for what tho?

[inland shoal]

Does BiZ summon in front of her?

[eager mulch]

it’s shitnano

[kind needle]

Idk, imma search up wiki

[remote yarrow]

Cuz different type of hulls have different timers

[kind needle]

Since I can’t trust my friends

[copper pine]

@eager mulch you having a grudge here?

[eager mulch]

shitnano is the only 5:15:00 available tn

[topaz smelt]

doesnt this fall under trophy rule

[soft raft]

from what I can recall, her summon is always in the middle

[remote yarrow]

probably yes

[eager mulch]

hasn’t stopped other people

[kind needle]

Yeah, just looked up at it, it’s shinano

[eager mulch]

don’t know why you’re pulling for shitnano

[topaz smelt]

fell for the newb trap

[eager mulch]

littorio

[soft raft]

Is littorio still in the build pool?
cuz she share the 5:15 timer as well

[kind needle]

Idk man, misclicked.

[eager mulch]

if it’s event pool then it’s litt

[kind needle]

Just used 2 cubes on alsace event.

[eager mulch]

littorio, even worse

[soft raft]

lmao then that's Littorio
congrats you played yourself

[remote yarrow]

It's lottorio then , then again why did we follow up this convo

[inland shoal]

Why even talk about build timers, who cares about them

[eager mulch]

idfk it’s not on-topic

[copper pine]

who even waits for 5 hours for a build

[hard mesa]

[remote yarrow]

Ban then for baiting responses

[viscid swift]

Honestly build timers make even less sense than stat wheels

[topaz smelt]

thorin do your job

[kind needle]

Ran out of quick finishers

[soft raft]

Damn how

[inland shoal]

It's not rly off topic if you interpret it as question of who has that timer which is pretty much why I didn't say anything

[novel solstice]

How do you even run out of quick finishers? The game gives you thousands of them.

[copper pine]

how???

[kind needle]

Idk, I just build and build at the kron event and didn’t even bother to do commissions

[eager mulch]

the question was worded in a way where I interpreted it as him wanting me to read his mind to give him a yes or no answer

[copper pine]

how is it even possible......

[graceful meteor]

sounds like alt acc and not playing enough

[kind needle]

Yep, it’s on my alt.

[remote yarrow]

I'm just gonna sit and wait for this topic to die

[topaz smelt]

even less reasons to care

[hard mesa]

[graceful meteor]

just buy more quick finish

[kind needle]

Anyways, Plymouth usable on D20 below?

[eager mulch]

useable but shit

like all other non mlb/dev30 ships

[kind needle]

Well, she’s stuck in the dorm when I get her ig.

[soft raft]

barely useable only for her utility

[night pumice]

are either of the perma urs good at all? cuz from what I can see here they're just okay and there's better options

[inland shoal]

Nah pr tanks are pretty fine at dev25

[south sequoia]

They're great

[remote yarrow]

They are good but there's no reason to actively pull for them

[soft raft]

Shinano still reigns top in most Carrier comps
NJ has been powercrept but the only way you're not gonna be using her is if you have basically every other Gacha UR BB, she's still better than SR BBs

Basically both are good, but not a high prio to hard pull for

[inland shoal]

The main reason for this is scarcity of the limit break material tbh

[eager mulch]

ask the devs

[topaz smelt]

cuz she looks better this way

[inland shoal]

#al-general

[slender jackal]

THIS IS GAMEPLAY HELP sorry

[soft raft]

^
And it's better to save up for event URs that wont come back for 2 years than perma URs that are going nowhere

[kind needle]

Shinano Haku still a thing?

[remote yarrow]

Give more UR bulins please

[south sequoia]

And this isnt gameplay

[south sequoia]

Still is

[slender jackal]

yes yes I know I missclicked I am sorry I am moving on

[copper pine]

what is even happening right now

[eager mulch]

mods snoozing

[kind needle]

Idk which should I use with Implac, Enty-Yorky2 and Implac or Shinano Haku Implac?

[hard mesa]

[south sequoia]

Shinano Haku and Kear York II co-exist as comps, with implacable being a staple.

[graceful meteor]

petition for smol ship tech, I'm out of options

[south sequoia]

You can do enty york but it's not as consistent as shinano haku

[eager mulch]

tell me how to turn implac into a staple pls and thank you both are good in their own right

[south sequoia]

Shinano Haku is still consistently better

[eager mulch]

my comps are kear/enty/yt2 and nano/haku/implac

[copper pine]

who asked

[kind needle]

Kear D27 usable?

[hard mesa]

Um.. shangri la

[eager mulch]

no

[remote yarrow]

Wow you guys actually have options I use Haku AvP Enty cuz I don't have anything else

[copper pine]

its time to grind

[remote yarrow]

Grind what? URs?

[kind needle]

Should I go skypirates or continue grinding for my first wyvern🫠

[eager mulch]

all ships are dogshit if they aren’t at max stars

[soft raft]

I only have two HVARs, who would have priority for them in this comp?

[south sequoia]

Wyvern

[inland shoal]

Skypirates are rather pointless

[eager mulch]

Both implac or whatever is better for timing

[copper pine]

more tech, more UR's and more gears.

[sharp socket]

what do i need to clear to unlock sp

[eager mulch]

D3

[soft raft]

100% clear D3

[sharp socket]

ah shit

i have to not be lazy

[inland shoal]

I feel like a broken record at this point but sth tanks sth dev25

[eager mulch]

I still don’t like that, it could be a slippery slope of new players trying to use sub dev 30 ships

[viscid swift]

Honestly it's just Agir, Brest, and Anchorage

And they're exceptions not the norm

[eager mulch]

I’d rather just say “don’t use any ship before dev 30” vs “you can use ships X, Y, and Z before they are dev 30 but after dev 25”

[inland shoal]

It's the norm for tanks you don't care that much about the dmg of

[remote yarrow]

Me using Ply since 25 cuz I thought she also was an exception

[inland shoal]

Then might as well say fs5 in fear of players thinking fs5 is a waste of time if you say dev30

[eager mulch]

what

[remote yarrow]

Isn't avp the only one who doesn't really work unless she's fs5 tho?

[eager mulch]

I don’t see how “don’t use ships before dev30” translates to “fs5 is a waste of time”

[copper pine]

huh???

[remote yarrow]

I'm confused now

[inland shoal]

Maybe I misinterpreted your argument about using Ägir etc at dev25

[copper pine]

dont really work is a bit harsh for avp d30, fs5 improves her quite a bit

[hard mesa]

Well ply is fine at dev25 if compared with other cl. She get massive boost at dev30 compared to other vanguard pr

[viscid swift]

AvP is the only one who really wants her fate sim it's not like all the rest are negligable

[eager mulch]

to me, it’s just the principle of not rushing to use a ship that doesn’t have all of their stars

[kind needle]

Ulrich can spam 457 or should I equip nj gun?

[viscid swift]

Situationally dependent

[south sequoia]

She should use both depending on the situation

[eager mulch]

because I feel like it could lead to a slippery slope of people trying to use other ships that aren’t mlb or dev 30

[south sequoia]

She utilizes both well

[kind needle]

I use her as bossing with NJ and Musashi at med to heavy armor

[copper pine]

yes but remember @eager mulch not all of us has like all the best shit in the game and already prepared for FS5 etc or have one.

[viscid swift]

I agree, and like we said realistically it's 4 exceptions to the rule out of doznes

[eager mulch]

what

[viscid swift]

Most PRs and DRs when not dev 30 are still worse than commonly available SRs

[copper pine]

i feel like slapping "just use it when its d30 or fs5" is like a troll despair for people to think that it will take them ages

[viscid swift]

It's literally not for most ships....

[remote yarrow]

I think you are going a lil bit overboard

[copper pine]

true but i mean, they have to work with they can get at hand right?

[eager mulch]

it takes, at most, 6 months. The game is a marathon, not a sprint

[inland shoal]

I did misunderstand so no wonder my argument didn't make sense to you
I just know quite some ppl that had like dev 27 Ägir for ages and I wouldn't like to tell them to use Port instead just so they don't happen to get the idea of using other ships before dev30

[viscid swift]

You do but that doesn't mean use half finished PRs that are worse than other options they have

[remote yarrow]

But it's detrimental using most PR ships before 30 tho

[viscid swift]

When that exception comes up absolute say it but if it doesn't then just don't is my philosophy

[graceful meteor]

easy difficulty, just use what you have, you will probly lose/sink tho

[inland shoal]

That's fair I suppose
Anyway gn

[copper pine]

gn thorin

[eager mulch]

mods are asleep, time to get off topic

[viscid swift]

Is it flex time

[remote yarrow]

So I started posting gifs and memes

[copper pine]

no, post ascii @remote yarrow

[eager mulch]

so how relatively tanky is mog if we ignore her tendencies

[graceful meteor]

alsace bet ur, just look at her string I mean strike

[copper pine]

shin......

[worldly pewter]

i think there are ships that are usuable before dev 30
i used agir last month dev 23 it worked fine but mostly for the dps ships u want to go all the way because of the damage multipliers both on guns / planes and efficiency

[viscid swift]

Uhhh @slow fox I summon thee

[remote yarrow]

Shouldn't the bot have an answer?

[eager mulch]

ngl, mebot scares me a little

[remote yarrow]

📣 MeBot

[graceful meteor]

like I said, this game is easy, you can use whatever you want
This channel is here to tell you your choice could be sux and inefficient @worldly pewter

[eager mulch]

maybe we have to get the paid subscription version of mebot

[remote yarrow]

Atleast we tried

[topaz smelt]

He's gotta pay me to use it

[eager mulch]

I might just toss mog in my opsi mob sandwich and call it a day

[slow fox]

/whisper

[copper pine]

i guess this is the most worth it?

[slow fox]

Not the whisper oh no i had the wrong thing on my clipboard

[eager mulch]

not at all

[copper pine]

for the cubes

[viscid swift]

Nope

[eager mulch]

not at all

[slow fox]

Why

[eager mulch]

Why shouldn’t I be scared of you

[copper pine]

isnt like 11 cubes is 300 gems?

[slow fox]

I do math for a living, actually harmless.

[eager mulch]

you never buy cubes for gems

[remote yarrow]

Maths are scary

[copper pine]

empty cubes man desperate times

[viscid swift]

Yeah but compared to like the trade license which is the best but still pretty bad if you whale cubes

[slow fox]

Glad to be of service.

[desert tapir]

...hey is it a good sign that I have more cubes then instant build drills or a bad one?

[viscid swift]

That's just normal

If you're casual...

[desert tapir]

Really? I have almost always had more drills then cubes... then again my rng luck is a little sus.

[viscid swift]

It's not but in the beginning and like I said of you're casual It's to be expected honestly

[elfin hollow]

Is there anyway to disable this pop up?

[desert tapir]

Well alright 👍

[eager mulch]

yes, by turning off the game for a little bit

[elfin hollow]

I can't do that

[eager mulch]

I can

[graceful meteor]

change ship help

[cyan viper]

If you ignore it's a massive debuff

[worldly pewter]

second floor dorm
touching grass

[desert tapir]

If you really want to keep grinding give the a little bit to re charge then swap teams.

[elfin hollow]

Ight

[desert tapir]

Whats the cap on oil over stock?

[viscid swift]

Hard cap? 25k

[kindred flicker]

whats the promise ring used for

[slow fox]

Me

[soft raft]

You can marry your waifu

[kindred flicker]

how many can i marry

[eager mulch]

all of them

as much as your wallet can afford

[desert tapir]

[soft raft]

as many as you have rings for

[copper pine]

what is the fastest on clearing mobbing fleet in general

[wide elk]

Is Alsace just a Vanguard replacement?

[eager mulch]

no

[wide elk]

then is she boss or mob?

[soft raft]

she can do both perfectly fine

[rapid grail]

almost always a 3 CV fleet + relevant crossfleet buffs and barrages in theory

[copper pine]

hmmm

[desert tapir]

Deja vu

[keen sable]

everyone except imas

[kindred flicker]

whos imas (im new)

[soft raft]

idolm@sters

Tho not like that collab is gonna come back anytime soon if at all

[wide elk]

Who is best for learning about the more complex aspects of the game, deeper than just stuff like mob/boss, tank/non-tank, etc.

[soft raft]

what

[eager mulch]

sam prob

[keen sable]

let me see if i can get this right. THE iDOLM@STER

[viscid swift]

Looks right

[wide elk]

Well someone who could I learn from so when I see a new ship I can use the stats and skills to determine how good they are

[viscid swift]

May as well get a pHD in stat reading then

Because it's a LOT more complicated than you might think

[graceful meteor]

spam is X good in gph

[topaz smelt]

a lot of it is just trial and error and after a few years of it you just know

[slow fox]

Riceist will give you advice on everything, useful or not. You should talk to him.

[eager mulch]

until he leaves alo again

[wide elk]

Well I don’t need every detail, I just want to be able to group girls into more specific categories than Mob/boss and tank/non-tank

[atomic abyss]

It's something that takes about a year or 2 to pick up unfortunately

[patent pivot]

try to make stuff, ask nerds, understand your mistakes and repeat for a couple years

[atomic abyss]

^

I've said this in the past, you tend to learn a lot just by lurking here

[uncut oar]

Is Laf2 either tankier than Harbin or does more damage than Harbin?

[desert tapir]

Can confirm

[viscid swift]

Yes, maybe

[keen sable]

read the wiki. if the wiki doesn't have it. add it. if the wiki is wrong. fix it.

[atomic abyss]

So if you ask me, rather than going to find someone to teach you
Just.... Stay here for a bit

[copper pine]

let the wiki team do their work

[uncut oar]

What does it depend on/does she come close regardless assuming you aren't skewing numbers with +13s?

[atomic abyss]

I can safely say most of us here picked up our game knowledge from this channel

[patent pivot]

i dont read this place often but from what i gather you would pick up a lot of the basics here. but for more advanced fleet comp shit probably best to find a more dense residence of nerds

[blissful hamlet]

does the dev aware that the patch doesn't change the fact that mogador stil sucks ass?

[eager mulch]

working as intended

[soft raft]

considering that they havent pushed it outside of CN yet, most likely

[copper pine]

its a freebie UR... i guess

[viscid swift]

I don't know because I don't know off the top of my head how the 2 compare damage wise

[uncut oar]

I will confirm this but also, I've forgotten most of it after multiple months away

[blissful hamlet]

so there will be another patch?

[atomic abyss]

We don't know

They haven't announced anything concrete

[uncut oar]

Ah. Sorry. I thought you meant it's situational when you said maybe. Oops.

[keen sable]

ender spent all this time writing a wonderful pin. you should read it.

[atomic abyss]

And if they did you would see it in #game-news

[blissful hamlet]

[silk helm]

as a new player, wtf is this cat thing and is it important

[blissful hamlet]

they should downgrade her to gold or purple ship

[soft raft]

go meme somewhere else

[atomic abyss]

Serenity.

We already have enough doom posters in here

And we have already warned some morons who kept on coming here doing so

[eager mulch]

What cat thing

[copper pine]

doom posters?

[keen sable]

cats give you buffs. buffs are good.

[atomic abyss]

Why? Because they're deliberately providing misinformation by outright telling people not to exchange Mogador

[topaz smelt]

classic ytubers

[viscid swift]

Oh god

[uncut oar]

Asking something constructive rq, has the meta changed significantly since Soyuz release?

[soft raft]

damn that's crazy

[eager mulch]

but muh collection%

[copper pine]

is this the case of Perseus back in the days again?

[viscid swift]

Not really

[uncut oar]

Since last time I was here was Soyuz I think?

[viscid swift]

Alsace and Mogador only just dropped after all

[uncut oar]

Oki. So most of what little I remember should still be accurate enough to at least follow myself

[atomic abyss]

Soyuz has given Musashi the opportunity to drop to mob for good, where she's flourishing

[soft raft]

not really
Also dunno how you would easily quantify "The meta" when there's like many types of "The meta" for various types of content

[atomic abyss]

Other than that not really

[night pumice]

which pr ships outside of like pr4/fdg are good to have

[eager mulch]

Brest and ply

[viscid swift]

The DRs, Shimanto, etc

[atomic abyss]

Cheshire, Brest, Harbin, Shimanto, Hindenburg, Kears

Cheeky last I checked Shinano wasn't a PR

[soft raft]

Lol

[uncut oar]

Yeah, ik it's a bit obtuse. I guess I can split it into gear and ships and whether or not anything major has changed for w13+ since I'm actually thinking about wrapping that up

[copper pine]

how does kears fare against the mobbing or bossing ships (both on firepower or cv side)

[topaz smelt]

keargud

[viscid swift]

She's best used with Yk2, doesn't stand out too much as a regular BB

[atomic abyss]

Kears... Is a very unique case
She wants a specific comps and does very very well in it

[uncut oar]

I know mk7's confirmed, can somebody link me the post for it/list off the other confirmed gearlab additions?

[topaz smelt]

kears only issue is lack of intercept kills her

[eager mulch]

literally

[atomic abyss]

That and she's kinda awkward in a game format that prefers mono CV and BB fleets

[uncut oar]

Does Kear want anything out of the ordinary for vanguard?

[topaz smelt]

you only run mono hulls on opsi but even thats kinda dying

[uncut oar]

And is AvP still okay to use with said fleet?

[atomic abyss]

Kear's biggest pro is that she opens up vanguard options

[soft raft]

Kear is basically typical BB stuff except you use a fighter plane instead of a secondary gun

[atomic abyss]

Since you no longer need to run an ARA in the vanguard

[uncut oar]

Oh right. She comes with ARA

[eager mulch]

conditional ARA

[atomic abyss]

So you can unga bunga with even more damage
The issue is that her ARA is a biiiit conditional

[uncut oar]

Thankies

[atomic abyss]

What was it again, must be with 1 US CV?

[topaz smelt]

her best pair is yorkii anyways

[copper pine]

does CVL counts?

[atomic abyss]

So yeah for now that's basically just York 2 or Enty

[hard mesa]

1 us main

[eager mulch]

any EU main

[atomic abyss]

Since you're probably not gonna use Indep with her

[soft raft]

1 USS backliner

[uncut oar]

Are you still running AvP with that? Are there any good Vanguard slows, rather?

[soft raft]

yeah you'd still run AvP
or Implac if you have her

[viscid swift]

I just swap Implacable around these days

[copper pine]

well im using kears, indep and uni for the SP since idk what to throw in as the fastest mobbing

[eager mulch]

northamp 2

[atomic abyss]

There are no good vanguard slows
You're coping with KirovM or Agir really

So lacking impla, avp it is

[uncut oar]

Yeah, figured

[topaz smelt]

just dont miss

[hard mesa]

Avp is scond after impla

[atomic abyss]

Lacking AvP uh...

Why do you have Kears even...

[soft raft]

inb4 next UR is a vanguard with a freeze /j

[uncut oar]

I do have impla but she's somewhere else and as far as I know Y2 and Kear skew light anyways, I could be wrong

[copper pine]

or a vanguard that can mind control the boss movement

[uncut oar]

So AvP kinda just falls into the slot

[topaz smelt]

just sync bz

[keen sable]

going to laugh at you all when charybdis gets an aug and goes ex

[copper pine]

what is that, a copium overdose take?

[sharp socket]

are there other ships that do things while not in the same fleet like soyuz

[soft raft]

/crossfleet yes

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[sharp socket]

or off fleet buffers

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /crossfleet

[uncut oar]

Oh actually another question, with Musashi getting promoted to customer dropped to mob do you need FdG anymore?

[sharp socket]

so many URs i dont have

[soft raft]

no but she's still very acessible, especially if you lack a majority of the UR BBs

[sharp socket]

anyway thanks my 3rd and 4th fleets in opsi can be a little bit more useful

[uncut oar]

I have literally every UR that has come out bar Mogador atm, so I suppose for me the answer is no

Well, once I mlb Soyuz anyways

[tropic ermine]

what are the odds of ulrich refun this year

[soft raft]

She already reran like 4 months ago

[strong tartan]

0 cause it already happened

[round egret]

how are the event torpedoes?

[copper pine]

the better question is, when ulrich going to be a perma

[stark quiver]

How many points from the ex stage does a 6 star ship deduct compared to a 0 lb

[copper pine]

none?

[tropic ermine]

welp looks like i wont be buying the adalbert skin

[soft raft]

You dont have to own the ship to get the skin tho

[tropic ermine]

what do you mean

[soft raft]

exactly what it says
if you dont own the ship, that doesnt mean you cant buy their skin(s)

[wide elk]

Is Alsace good enough when I’m only missing Bismarck Zwei in terms of UR BBs?

[tropic ermine]

can i use her as secretary?

[viscid swift]

Good enough for?

[wide elk]

To be in my fleets

[undone plover]

helena prefers rudder + radar not toolkit + radar right?

[viscid swift]

Your fleets for where exactly?

[wide elk]

OpSi

[soft raft]

no you still need the actual ship
but better to get the skin now when you dunno when it'll come back than to miss out on both it and the ship it belongs to

[eager mulch]

helena prefers toolkit + rudder but you compromise the toolkit if you need to run radar

[viscid swift]

Sure, whether she actually replaces someone is tbd

[torpid crystal]

best event levels to farm?

[soft raft]

D3

[eager mulch]

D3

[wide elk]

D3 if you can

[undone plover]

from the helena expert

[eager mulch]

my helena is lv 1 oathed

[wide elk]

When no events are running, climb the #-4 latter from 3 to 6 to 8 to 12 to 13, etc…

[stark quiver]

Does inplac or enty have better single target damage

[eager mulch]

implac

implac if Enty misses, enty if she procs and hits

[wide elk]

So Enty if you want to gamble

[stark quiver]

I’ll just gamble what’s the worst that can happen

[wide elk]

Implac if you aren’t a serial gambler

[wide elk]

when the house wins

[atomic abyss]

I mean with enty you're gambling both the skill proc and the hit rate

[eager mulch]

I assume he’s doing the EX stage which literally doesn’t move

[undone plover]

would u use blue 76 on scylla if no UR dd gun?

[keen sable]

she's dirt cheap to gear effectively

[viscid swift]

I prefer Twin 114m personally

[sharp socket]

is there a limit to how many commissions you can do in a day

[undone plover]

[viscid swift]

only so much as in there's only so much time in a day to do commissions

[sharp socket]

ah so theres no hard limit on the number of them

[viscid swift]

nope

[sharp socket]

will it eventually stop sending me oil commissions though

or is it random on what it sends

[wide elk]

If you keep doing missions you will get specialty missions

[keen sable]

afaik there is a limit

[sharp socket]

im referring to the daily ones specifically

[viscid swift]

there is, like a hard limit?

[wispy pendant]

Late in the day some large oil comms come.

[sharp socket]

because the urgent missions has a cap on how many can show up at once

[wispy pendant]

Basically do comms all day and pick the ones you want the most

[viscid swift]

the first 10 each day are "enhanced" the rest are RNG of the standard ones

[sharp socket]

i see so the enhanced ones are like the 140-220 oil ones

[viscid swift]

yeah, the ones that just take 1 or 2 hours

[sharp socket]

when do they reset

[viscid swift]

at server reset

[keen sable]

if you aren't logged in

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, had that happen a few times

[sharp socket]

ah so i have to full close the game and open it again

that makes sense ty

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Commissions#Daily_Commissions

uggh what's with the color commentary

[sharp socket]

i love yes

[glacial carbon]

How do I get more oil???

[stark quiver]

touch grass and wait to restock

[glacial carbon]

Are there other ways to gain oil?

[stark quiver]

commisions, dailies, weeklys, and event store rn

[sharp socket]

u get a lump 6.5k every week from weekly free pack and weekly mission

also commissions give quite a bit

[ivory linden]

Plus mail

[sharp socket]

daily login reward also has oil, and maintenance every once in a while

[fossil shard]

Do you think they’ll eventually add super aircraft carriers?

[eager mulch]

this isn’t wows

[fossil shard]

They’re gonna run outta ships eventually

[sharp socket]

theres alot of ships out there

[stark quiver]

whats a super aircraft carrier, also if they run out of ships, zwei and II exist

[eager mulch]

wows shit

[fossil shard]

How many years does this game have left?

Another 6?

[stark quiver]

dunno , they probably gonna start adding new stuff, kinda how to keep a game up anyways

[eager mulch]

it’s pretty safe to say they’re never gonna add super carriers

[soft raft]

highly unlikely they'll start hard focusing on Cold war era stuff
At most we have the DDGs from that era but that's because China needs good ships

[sharp socket]

a quick google search tells me theres 2704 named military ships in the world recently and 47 supercarriers

[forest palm]

we have gotten stuff that is beyond WWII, so just wait

[sharp socket]

i dont think theyre gonna run out of ships

[eager mulch]

playable sirens

[stark quiver]

i maen maybe 10 years or so

[solid sorrel]

Anyone have investigation case answer

[eager mulch]

tentacle

[solid sorrel]

Tq

[strong tartan]

do alsaces swirly shell things in her first barrage ignore shields or no

[river junco]

Any recommendations for boss fleet main? I'm planning on using Agir, Hindenburg, Plymouth for vanguard

[graceful meteor]

assume dev30 and good gears, doesn't matter

[viscid swift]

boss fleet for where exactly?

[keen sable]

it doesn't sound great for a lot of stuff and potentially terrible on some stuff

[river junco]

mostly for op si use

[viscid swift]

pick 3 of the most 5 most recent UR BBs and go ham

[keen sable]

doesn't sound great, potentially terrible

[viscid swift]

i.e. Vanguard, Musashi, Zwei, Soyuz, Alsace

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[weary fog]

I jus realises Grobe and Agir take main fleet exp. Who are easily obtainable IB main fleet ships?

[viscid swift]

Tirpitz, Bismarck, Sharnhorst, Gneisenau, Graf Zeppelin in a few days

[bright glen]

Is this what I'm supposed to put on her, atleast for heavy bosses?

[eager mulch]

missing a star

could be better depending on the boss

[candid meteor]

man im so broke in terms of ur bulins

[weary fog]

I assume former 2 are from medal shop?

who are the next 3

[elfin hollow]

How many teams should I eventually make?

[keen sable]

drop, drop, invitation

[eager mulch]

can’t give you an exact number you build fleets for content

[weary fog]

Drop from where?

[steady beacon]

Scharnhost and Gneisenau drop from the Divergent Chessboard War Archive, D2-D4 for both
(And also other places tbf)

[strong tartan]

thwnks

[weary fog]

Damn I guess I will wait for the medal shop and pray

rn farming Brest exp

[keen sable]

the earlier you unlock fdg the more free she is

[weary fog]

Mmm doing Brest first since I leveling Alsace

[remote yarrow]

[split umbra]

Hi can anyone help me to build my fleet for the SP event?

[remote yarrow]

Aight I'll do it even if I haven't helped since December

[remote yarrow]

Post your dock in a thread , leave out commons and rares and sort by level if possible

[split umbra]

Im not sure how to sort properly

[remote yarrow]

Is that Soyuz MLB?

[split umbra]

It's only 4 stars

[remote yarrow]

I'm blind

As a tip you might wanna stop spreading your UR bulins and focus on one UR at a time btw

[viscid swift]

sigh, time to get the notes out again

[worldly pewter]

[bright glen]

[split umbra]

I didn't LB with unless I have an extra copy of it

[remote yarrow]

oh god

You don't pull for Dupes my guy that's what UR Bulins are for

[viscid swift]

my dude, that precisely what bullins are for

[candid meteor]

i mean he might have just gotten an extra one

[split umbra]

I though i want to save the bullins for the event ships?

[candid meteor]

what

[remote yarrow]

Those URs are THE event ships

[worldly pewter]

he wants to make a bulin army

[soft raft]

What
where in the world did you hear that

You use bullins to LB ships that you need to LB, simple as that

[split umbra]

Cause Im not sure what Im doing so Im just saving them

[plain saffron]

tldr pls

[viscid swift]

limit break your Shinano, Soyuz and New Jersey now

[remote yarrow]

Non MLB bad, MLB good

[candid meteor]

out of these who should i limit break first

[viscid swift]

always focus on max limit breaking one ship at a time, none MLB ship bad, always MLB URs in one go

[worldly pewter]

and one more point is the amount of construction he did for these shinanos and njs

[soft raft]

Laffey II because she's closest to MLB > Soyuz > Alsace > Shinano >UvH > Guam> Kronstadht > Shima

[remote yarrow]

Anyways he asked for help with SP and we ended up helping him with UR problems

Who's helping with the first part

[viscid swift]

Mob: NJ, Unicorn, Shinano, Eugen, Magdeburg, Jaelin
Boss: Nelson, Soyuz, Enterprise, Portland, Helena, Sumner

[remote yarrow]

There it is

[viscid swift]

probably overkill with that

[split umbra]

Okay will do

[candid meteor]

shima last?

[split umbra]

Sorry guys I dun really understand how the game knows i just collect ships...

[split umbra]

Thanks!

[remote yarrow]

I'm surprised you managed to get NJ and Nano to 5/6

How much did you pull on standard banner

[split umbra]

I have been playing for like half a year but i always fail the SP event

[viscid swift]

if that somehow manages to fail then you have a massive gear issue

[remote yarrow]

Let's pray he doesn't

Now I'm actually curious about his gear

[split umbra]

So like this?

[viscid swift]

yes but swap Javelin and Magdeburg
along with Helena and Allen M. Sumner

[remote yarrow]

Unicorn just left the fleet

[weak turret]

Whats the xp efficiency of D3 vs 12-4?

Is it comparable or is 12-4 significantly better?

[plain saffron]

12-4 better

[split umbra]

Meaning?

[remote yarrow]

Way lower, D3 is similar to W10/W11

[viscid swift]

swap there positions in the fleet

[weak turret]

Aight thx

[hushed dawn]

How good is Mogador's gun?

Compared to... Kitakaze's gun.

[remote yarrow]

I think he got confused cuz you mentioned Javelin twice

[split umbra]

Fixed

[grizzled creek]

Devs I got Javelin , u said she's good as well?

[remote yarrow]

Swap Allen and Helena around cheeky made a typo

[remote yarrow]

She's decent

[eager mulch]

yo why is NJ missing a star

[remote yarrow]

But if you already have either Nimi or Laffey she's a sidegrade

[eager mulch]

shitnano too

[remote yarrow]

You might not wanna take a look at his URs

[split umbra]

Okay got it! Thanks

[eager mulch]

soyuz

[worldly pewter]

where is ur laffei ?

[viscid swift]

I mean just look at this

[atomic abyss]

Ok the turtle's face is very accurate here...

[split umbra]

I think I started only after the event ended

[atomic abyss]

My dude limit break your URs fully

[eager mulch]

oh there’s a lot of bulins, faith in humanity restored

[remote yarrow]

tldr he didn't know you could use Bulins on them

[eager mulch]

[candid meteor]

*should

[remote yarrow]

But it's okay now cheeky told him to use them

[worldly pewter]

then that is 4 months not 6

[solid sorrel]

Is vampire meta worth to train

[soft raft]

Nope

[eager mulch]

worth is subjective, and she’s bad

[split umbra]

Close to 6 months i think i started around December or Jan

[remote yarrow]

META Ships from Cruise Pass are bad

[solid sorrel]

Ok

[eager mulch]

mortune in pvp

[remote yarrow]

Well that's an exception

also pvp

[steady beacon]

CV RLD +3 and BB RLD +2 is good

[eager mulch]

I don’t play pvp

0.12s shaved off my shinano reload

[uneven cave]

Major improvement

[split umbra]

These are my equipments

[eager mulch]

when shinano has double ryuuseis and a tenrai, we love cv rld

[remote yarrow]

Not those Triple 406, also Quads

[viscid swift]

I can already tell it has issued just by seeing what main gun Nelson has equipped....

[eager mulch]

what’s worse, gold 406 or kgv gun

[atomic abyss]

Gold 406mk1 is normal ammo

[remote yarrow]

Could be worse, he's not using a confetti

[atomic abyss]

Kgv gun is slow but it at least is HE

[viscid swift]

read sam's guide in #bot-spam /equip and sort out your gear

[atomic abyss]

Both evil
But I'd say the kgv gun is the lesser

[eager mulch]

then what is gold twin 410

[remote yarrow]

You probably wanna unbox some Purple 406 mk6 to replace those gold ones that are bad

[soft raft]

where are his 406 mk6s
dont you get one for free that's already at +6 at one point in the beginning

[atomic abyss]

A curse on this world

[remote yarrow]

He probably scrapped, seems like a casual player that thinks gold = good

But it's fixable

[uneven cave]

Watch me +13 a confetti gun

[split umbra]

Alright I will refer to the guide

[remote yarrow]

You can always ask for help if you got a question, but your gear needs some work to be done if you wanna beat SP consistently

[split umbra]

I so just very confused with it all

[remote yarrow]

Dw it's uphill from here

Cannot go wrong if you ask for help I think

[eager mulch]

i know a guy with 3 +13 confetti guns

[split umbra]

Thanks mate Just that there are so much info

[remote yarrow]

Actual criminal behavior

[uneven cave]

[stark quiver]

is avi carrer dmaage

[soft raft]

yes

[steady beacon]

In like 99% of cases

[uneven cave]

Carrier damage scaling off Speed when

[plain saffron]

planes use AVI dmg yes

[stark quiver]

newb question, but in tech, is ther a list of what thse symbols mean

like all of them

[atomic abyss]

Hit

[stark quiver]

this is avi right

[soft raft]

if you hover over the mouse on each of their icons on the wiki it tells you whawt they are

[stark quiver]

[uneven badger]

warspite or nj

[uneven cave]

NJ

[soft raft]

NJ and it's not even close (assuming she's MLB)

[uneven badger]

i fully retrofit warspite ;-;

[remote yarrow]

Well congratz on getting the worst UR BB I did too back in the day

[strong tartan]

well that was when it was just warspite

[uneven badger]

i feel like nelson somehow is better

[viscid swift]

she is better

[sweet delta]

Nelson is certainly better than warspite in mob, but they should be about equal in boss

[remote yarrow]

We also get free tickets for non UR Reruns right? I forgot

[viscid swift]

yes

[plain saffron]

Or just go into a ship page to see what each means

[steady beacon]

When Nagami is still on the previous topic, and without scrolling up it looks utterly random

[worldly pewter]

non UR rerun i never heard of these
was there one after the guam's event ?

[split umbra]

So is this like how I slowly equip them?

[steady beacon]

Yep, Virtual Tower was one example (albeit a non-UR rerun of an SP, rather than "large" event)

[worldly pewter]

i don't remember if we got free tickets or not

[remote yarrow]

Yeah that looks decent enough, do you have enough Core Data to get shells?

[viscid swift]

we did

[steady beacon]

We did
Uhhhh... EN gets 31 tickets iirc
CN/JP 32

Oh no, apparently you get less for SP

[viscid swift]

just 29 for that event in EN and 30 on CN and JP I believe

[steady beacon]

Either way CN/JP get 1 more

[split umbra]

What's a core data and shells?

[remote yarrow]

Erm, Core data is a currency you get from beating/playing hard mode

Which you can spend over at Shop > Supply > Monthly > Core (Mo.)

[steady beacon]

Damn... to look back and realise the last non-UR non-SP light rerun event was... Daedalian Hymn over a year ago

[split umbra]

Oh okay got it yes i Have

[remote yarrow]

You should aim to atleast get 3 white and black shells, which you can buy one of each per month

Really good aux for all BBs

[split umbra]

You mean this?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[split umbra]

Ah i see any other items I should look out for?

[worldly pewter]

independance

[split umbra]

Sorry guys just too much info im overwhelm with them

[remote yarrow]

There's other stuff that's good but for priority check out /coredata over at #bot-spam

If you have spare Coredata after getting those you could also grab Indepedence for 1.2k who's a really good Mobbing CV once she's retro

[frank sequoia]

what are some good stages to farm for the event?

[candid meteor]

d3

[remote yarrow]

Check pins next time , but basically
D3 > D1 > C2 > B3 > highest stage

[split umbra]

Okay got, so i should look to get those equipment list in +13 priority list?

[soft raft]

you are nowhere close to worrying about +13'ing gear right now, focus on getting good gear

[remote yarrow]

+10 is enough for most content in the game so don't worry about +13 for now

[split umbra]

Okay

[viscid swift]

not to mention not all good gear is a +13 priority

[split umbra]

Should I give/craft all the ships augment? I dont think i have enough resources

[viscid swift]

at this it's not a priority

[tired condor]

is bearn meta worth getting

[forest palm]

potentially? needs more testing, certainly wouldn't recommend her to an early, to mid game player

[pale mason]

im not planning on completing these. does that mean i need to buy 150 UR vouchers from shop? i looked at the faq and im not sure if i missed a source cus 150 seems like a lot

[stable thistle]

Lv 125 ship no longer receives exp ? Does that mean I can’t grind xp for PR too ?

[soft raft]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[soft raft]

you would need 160 if you were going for both copies of Mogador
but honestly those missions are easy, they dont have to live, they just have to be in the fleet that kills the boss

[stable thistle]

Oh, thanks a lot

[pale mason]

oh i added wrong i guess?
i wasn't able to pull brennus nor fleuret and i already pulled alsace and mlb'd her. dont wanna accidentally pull another alsace..

[soft raft]

That's fine, we have 3 weeks until the event ends anyways, you've got plenty of time to grind

[pale mason]

true, thanks

do we know how long it might take them to fix mogador? was there a precedent for this kind of bug?

[soft raft]

nope and not to this extent

[pale mason]

unlucky lol, i hope it's soon

[strong tartan]

how many vouchers does SP give again I forgot to check when I cleared today

[soft raft]

5

[strong tartan]

okay ty

[pale mason]

if i wanted to buy a pr2 ship with the 15$ pack in the shop, which would be best to pick up?
i could send pictures of my current ships if needed
i realize it's just a time skip in the end but i just came back to playing after a multi year break so im basically a new player at this point

[soft raft]

Gasco
tho honsetly that pack isnt worth it

give this a read too https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[split umbra]

Hi is AA gun and Auxiliary important? I missing alot of those gears

[soft raft]

and while you're at it, refresh yourself https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[vale spindle]

Aux yes
AA sometimes

[pale mason]

im currently working on hakuryuu and pr4 in general for the plane blueprints but that's gonna take a long time, there's too many ships to research and it takes so long per ship qq

[soft raft]

it do be like that
Such is the grind

[split umbra]

Oh okay how do i get more Repair toolkit? Which boxes have them?

[soft raft]

Any gold or purple tech crate

[split umbra]

Does it matter which fraction ?

[soft raft]

nope
like i said, any

[split umbra]

Ah I see okay thanks!

[lunar epoch]

is there a right answer to these

[pale mason]

would kitakaze vs gascogne just come down to my current dock status?

[fresh tangle]

Wooo my daily pull was Brennus. Not quite Alsace but close 😂

Now the question, can I use her 😂

[split umbra]

Should i dismantle all these blue guns?

[vale spindle]

Yes

keep the iron blood planes though

[split umbra]

Alright thanks!

[lament tree]

So either roon or st Louis is fine to start with?

How do you decide which one?

[ripe urchin]

what skill is the priority to upgrade for saratoga?

[viscid swift]

Whichever is more convenient

[soft raft]

Whichever you find more convenient
Tho most people start with Roon because she can contribute tech points to unlocking Fredrich in PR2

[viscid swift]

Doesn't matter, you'll do them all eventually

[ripe urchin]

thanks

[novel condor]

Nope just give an answer, I answered them randomly n I still get the rewards

[solemn bear]

Are there any Super-rare tier gears that are useless and scrappable?
I saw a Reddit post saying one of their biggest regrets was upgrading Type 410 or something

[topaz smelt]

i think i got a repm 1 shot going

[solemn bear]

or the crane

[soft raft]

there's a safe to scrap link if you do /equip in #bot-spam

[solemn bear]

This thing isn't outdated, yes?

Cause I saw something similar on wiki and they said it was outdated or something

[lament tree]

Oh darn, I started with st Louis. But I don't have nearly enough gold blueprints

[soft raft]

No, esp when a huge chunk of that page consists of very old gear that's been in the game for a while

[solemn bear]

oop nvmnd, it isn't

finally something up to date, makes me wish I asked this earlier

thanks

[fresh tangle]

Is brennus a replacement for Portland?

[keen sable]

better yes also comparatively expensive

[silk helm]

New Player stuck on C3 (pls help ;-;)

[fresh tangle]

That’s ok I can slowly level her and I have the LB mats it’s just exp books I need. Portland has served me well but I need evil waifu material in my life

[grizzled creek]

Is St Louis Limited or General pool ?

[hard mesa]

general light

[grizzled creek]

She's a SR ?

[soft raft]

Elite

[grizzled creek]

O so not too rare then?

[eager mulch]

still rare

[soft raft]

depends on your RNG luck

[grizzled creek]

I see, well thx . I need that ship

[jaunty pecan]

this is still generally good gun right

[eager mulch]

yes

[sweet delta]

but

[soft raft]

yes gud gun
tho worth it to get? kinda depends

[jaunty pecan]

including for DDarragers?

[eager mulch]

dont buy

[grizzled creek]

Btw do y guys have the link to show what weapons I want ?

[eager mulch]

what

[strong tartan]

how do we know what you want

[grizzled creek]

Obviously not specifically what I want , I mean the good stuff

[viscid swift]

She's farmable from 10 or 11-3

[strong tartan]

do you mean recommended weapons?

[grizzled creek]

Ofc... I'm to new to want specific stuff

[grizzled creek]

Ah I see thx u

[zenith locust]

What's the issue with mogador? I don't get it :p

[fresh tangle]

Which of Brennus’s skills should I level first?

[eager mulch]

doesnt matter youll level all of them

[strong tartan]

flip a coin

[novel condor]

Tldr, one of her skills allows her to tp on front of the boss which just insta kills her due to eating all the torps

[keen sable]

S2

[fresh tangle]

It landed on its sides so I did the first one

[zenith locust]

Is there a solution?

[south sequoia]

Quick question, has there been a patch in EN/JP that applies the adjustments CN got?

[viscid swift]

Not that I'm aware of

[south sequoia]

Odd

[soft raft]

they havent pushed out the update to us so they must be still working on it

[novel condor]

Ehhhhhh devs r aware of it n they r still working on it prob

[soft raft]

and using CN as a testbase before they push it out to everyone else
only updating 1 region instead of doing 3 every time

[zenith locust]

K
Thx

[pale mason]

i have drake, alsace, warspite, monarch, hood for BBs (can also go for FDG eventually as well)
would going for gascogne for non DR PR2 ship be overkill or would it be better to go for kitakaze

[viscid swift]

At that point Gascoigne doesn't really serve a purpose other than tech

[pale mason]

kitakaze it is then

[solid harness]

I asked this the other day but only got an answer for half of my question but are the gold torps in the event shop any good?

[viscid swift]

Not really

[pale mason]

did mogador gain some kind of bonus from equipping them? idr

[viscid swift]

No

[keen sable]

aren't 9 torps good?

[plain saffron]

Bt that's fixed already

[pale mason]

what is? 😮

[keen sable]

sad

[plain saffron]

Wait since when you're purple

[ocean fiber]

Quick question is Colorado retrofit a good idea to add to the fleet?

[soft raft]

for like at least 2 weeks now I think

[keen sable]

since at least the first time you asked that

[tired condor]

wtf max breaking little enterprise gave me 0 tech points scammed

[plain saffron]

I forgot, too much purple name

[eager mulch]

child ships dont give tech

[plain saffron]

Should've check in fleet tech before doing it

[novel condor]

Wait nagami, since when u green

[strong tartan]

are you joking

[novel condor]

I legit forget who's green n whatnot

[strong tartan]

nagami has been green for as long as I remember (about a month)

[little chasm]

is it worth it to sortie b1 if it costs 600 oil for 3

its the highest lvl I can do

[pale mason]

is there a list somewhere for which fate sim are worth doing/prioritizing

[eager mulch]

all of them but avp wants it the most

[novel condor]

I mean yeah at that point. Just continue to get more levels for your fleet n try to do B3 at least

[grizzled creek]

So do I wanna beat chapter 9 to get the oil cap or make it to 9

I'm just made it to chapter 7 so around the corner

[tired condor]

is seattle good

[viscid swift]

She's okay

[novel condor]

Uh once u teach w9 yeah there's oil cap there, but try to focus on doing the event for the points

[grizzled creek]

I was told not to "farm it" since I can't do the harder difficulty

Just to get the daily bonus

[alpine ether]

yo does the score u get on the plumbing game influence the rewards u get

[strong tartan]

no

[alpine ether]

thanks

[novel condor]

Hoh hmmmmm ig that works yeah, just level up your fleet n try reaching w9 so you can do hard mode

[grizzled creek]

Yea it is a bit annoying tho cause I wanna farm for the UR bulin , I doubt I'll get it without actually farming it tho

[novel condor]

I mean yeah, u gotta do some farming

[grizzled creek]

Issue is if I can't manage to reach n farm D difficulty, do I just do C ? I do think I'm almost capable of not already

[novel condor]

Yep you can farm in C2 tbh. Gonna be less efecting compared to D stages since no oilcap but better than nothing

[grizzled creek]

I see, only D stage has the oil cap ?

[novel condor]

Yep

[night pumice]

if I don't have the D maps unlocked because of stat reasons should I just hit up A1-3 and B1-3 once each daily for the 3x drop thing

[remote yarrow]

You can just play,pause and leave and you will get the rewards regardless

[novel condor]

Ye just get the daily x3 and level up your ships ro be able to do hard mode stages

[grizzled creek]

How difficult is the D stages anyway ? Compared to campaign ? If I manage to clear 9 I assume I'd be able to clear D?

Unless it's a good bit harder

[rain vine]

d3 is lvl 105 or so

[grizzled creek]

[night pumice]

I don't think they're that bad tbh the only reason I can't go past d1 is because I don't have enough trp to actually open the map

[grizzled creek]

My ships are like 90-93 rn average so I probably want 110 or so to have a good farm

[worldly pewter]

D1 is very doable

[remote yarrow]

Like W10~W11

[novel condor]

Also keep in mind bout the stats requirements

[rain vine]

lvl 100 fleet should work fine