gameplay-help

[forest palm]

the MK6 just makes Musashi a bottom shelf UR BB...

[whole crypt]

I assume no Soyuz or VG?

[undone plover]

honestly it is not for me I dont even have her but I am also interested how u guys use her. maybe it is time i learn how to gear sushi

[cobalt rapids]

twin 410

[forest palm]

I only use Musashi for mobbing these days, and leave Soyuz in the boss position due to her flexibility

[whole crypt]

I only use Musashi for crossfleet these days so

[forest palm]

like for all that Musashi is, very specialized for Med, and Heavy, which is good, but for me not being able to do Light competently is very

[cobalt rapids]

sushi said that +11 twin 410 is equal to mk7 +13 on sushi assuming no timings differences

[jaunty vault]

wdym timing differences

[cobalt rapids]

salvo/buff/debuffs

[undone plover]

but yeah what does that mean. the twin 410 DOES have different timing

[jaunty vault]

so same number of salvos and no sync makes them equal

[undone plover]

but in practice she will desync to 3rd helena scan right? even second tbh

[icy mountain]

this plane outclasses tenzan kai right?

[cobalt rapids]

in practice theres other stuff like bz blackhole, nj ab etc etc

[jaunty vault]

no sync means no helena

[jaunty vault]

tenzan kai is more damage per load

[icy mountain]

but generally ju-87 better?

[undone plover]

that is saiun kai no?

[jaunty vault]

that depends

[undone plover]

tenzan kai is purple

[jaunty vault]

that is ju-87

yes and tenzan kai does as much damage as ryuusei

[whole crypt]

Saiun kai is less damage per load but faster
Tenzan kai is same damage as Ryuusei but lower AVI
Ryuusei is slightly higher damage than D-4 but slightly slower

[jaunty vault]

the only difference being 20 AVI and timings

[cobalt rapids]

mby assumed 410 is +1 salvo vs mk7
better ask sushi

[jaunty vault]

@sushiguma hi

[cobalt rapids]

@sushigummy

[jaunty vault]

smh my head

[undone plover]

is this still the recommended meta loadouts for opsi CV fleets?
https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4BgXQGnbb4BmMB2MAOMUAsntcQE5F8pF1ksBGbU61MAJkawCIUATAQy4%2B69ZQAbHCKEwAVgIUwBYqVxhSNOlDadefHoJEwWaNFCopsLMukalyl6rSz2o7blu3CI0KglgxIP9zGB9BhwUKiFpG3NIlVtVJz5%2BATcYMUksbFDwo2JZc0ojO2FMNUdOLQ4AIyTdJAZijLC5Eml8mILlBmZ1ZwTq-08A7yHIBCDDY0LrKwtlQrbu3tca1KkjE2Uclty2oWKF5yqdUTrqdabp1rm5zrMnTS0jjy9fYf8QMfTM9LwI2dVuzQ8PowKioUGnSbyT6NdoOUFoLqlBIuI4ghhZBpZKibKJ-Bz7XhLfrPOAvEYBbCEcQYr5kKE4H6wkoAwlEtGhbZnOnNEIw%2BZGG77ADG-FRwHhYBpfJxU1i%2BKRyKJT0GZNJb0CDHGXMU02ihQcTgqLmB4rBnMhPImeJKEsRdw4IrZprQWK52PysqZBrKi0eRhJfj8CEp1IhVnpOrlzKRVQdTvh4LWFuUbv1AoRtw0DtFyWdkrD1BlMyj3uROZETwgAEIwAA6VBVmgijgAM3QQA
also few questions
1- for the first 3 is it heavy > medium > light respectively?
2- these all assume oath but should also work if all not oathed right?
3- also does this assume max RLD tech or does it not matter?
sry url too beeg

[cobalt rapids]

1 yes
2 yes, yes
3 no, yes

[keen sable]

there's no simple way. and it should involve more than tierlist. fleettech, reacquisition, etc should all be factors.

[cobalt rapids]

the recommended plug and play loadouts

[icy mountain]

this is fine right (i dont have an another staag bofors yet)

also im trying to experiment with twin 410 kai but idk if shes a shelling focused bb or barrage focused

[undone plover]

tenzan kai does fall behind at +11 vs +13 for the gold converging torpers

[keen sable]

there's very few barrage focused ships. fewer than there are blue 76 users

[atomic abyss]

at least, in today's era

[undone plover]

generally run twin guns in mob and triple in boss. even if the damage is less u get better stagger and faster barrages

[torn phoenix]

is Musashi worth developing as a beginner?

[cobalt rapids]

do u have other URs? shes very strong yes

[torn phoenix]

I have Shinano too

[atomic abyss]

...how does a beginner have musashi tho

[viscid swift]

do you have UR Bullins to limit break any of them

[cobalt rapids]

can u post ur dock mby
she does replace penny in starter fleet at lb1 but it depends

[torn phoenix]

I played for awhile, quit, and then came back

[cobalt rapids]

or mby ure alr past that stage

[torn phoenix]

I have one right now, I should have three after the homecoming thing and the cruise missions

[minor crag]

fleet tech?

[viscid swift]

when you get them, limit break Msuashi

[torn phoenix]

gotcha, thank you

[cobalt rapids]

grab helena from guildshop
mob and boss should be
hood uni shoukaku - blucher laffey sanrui
sushi enty warkai - eugen helena sandy
but when lvling rotate the ships that are <120 in mob to get xp

[winter condor]

on moga would be better double EVA aux?

[atomic abyss]

she's a destroyer, so double HP

[torn phoenix]

who's sanrui sushi and warkai?

[viscid swift]

sanrui is Saint Louis

[atomic abyss]

sanrui is french saint louis
sushi is musashi
warkai is warspite kai

[cobalt rapids]

sanrui = saint louis u got her
sushi = musashi
warkai = warspite retro

[winter condor]

yes but is the only destroyer who goes kamikaze

[atomic abyss]

and evasion has an effective cap

[winter condor]

and one skill requires eva for more dmg

[atomic abyss]

after a certain point evasion is a meaningless stat

as a destroyer she has more than enough evasion

if anything her HP is low even by modern standards

[winter condor]

oks

[torn phoenix]

alright, then i'll try this then thank you

[hollow gust]

Lul mogador damage, where she ints in a dies

[atomic abyss]

again, exaggeration

[novel condor]

Paper ship

[hollow gust]

Just recommend newbies to not touch her until they do something about it

[atomic abyss]

i mean alsace is higher priority anyways

[whole crypt]

newbies not going to use mogs in an instadeath situation anyway

[last axle]

Question...when are the SP/B/D levels going to open up? I've cleared all of A&C. Usually they are available by now.

[forest palm]

in like 2 1/2 hrs

[hollow gust]

There is a timer, also it's never this early

[atomic abyss]

no they are never available this early

[whole crypt]

have you tried looking at the timer on the screen

[atomic abyss]

it unlocks 1200 server time iirc

[last axle]

Okay. I saw the counter. Guess I'm faster than usual getting this far. Thanks for the info.

[eternal basalt]

3.5h

[lethal heath]

Oh, CN seems to be double downing a bit for her to demand a serious buffing-

[forest palm]

lol

[soft raft]

isnt one of her skills bugged as well

[hollow gust]

Nah

[solar venture]

should i retrofit nelson or lvl up richelieu

[lethal heath]

Her stab. She doesn’t take ramming dmg but she’s fucked upon being in front of a ship girl with torps, shells, and barf barrages like in the video

[atomic abyss]

that's not a bug tho

that's just how it works

[lethal heath]

It’s not and it’s bad game design on their end

[cobalt rapids]

mash said earlier that if she stabs while her torps are ready she blocks weapon fire

[atomic abyss]

^

[lethal heath]

Still not a good thing to die instantly like that, that’s why CN isn’t backing down on it to her needing a buff

[soft raft]

imo Retrofit Nelson

[crimson glacier]

even if she doesnt die like whats the point

[cobalt rapids]

im sure if people complain enough in #game-feedback they will respond but no feedback will come from complaining here

[crimson glacier]

she is just bad design

[solar venture]

is brennus good?

[boreal oriole]

I don't think she needs a buff , just tweak the skill so she doesn't die immediately is the way. How they do it is up to them.

[crimson glacier]

you know that thats a buff right

[jaunty vault]

not particularly, looks like average gold CA, stay tuned for evaluations

[whole crypt]

an improvement to her performance is a buff
it doesn't matter whether the reason was because her skill design was shit

[solar venture]

ok

[hollow gust]

She needs a invincibility while going in lmao , no damage reduction is saving her ass

[soft raft]

CA EVA Tech

[boreal oriole]

Alrighty, Tis a buff needed

[viscid swift]

also #game-feedback is that way

[whole crypt]

they thought of reducing the ram damage, but they completely forgot about bullet spams

[mellow cape]

I pulled Alsace and I have the bulin for her

Is it worth?

[whole crypt]

sure

[atomic abyss]

how many bulin tho

[forest palm]

was there a ship that CN gripped about after Drake that they successfully got buffed? I honestly forgotten at this point

[mental marlin]

where can i that every skin that i own?

[atomic abyss]

nowhere

[peak mulch]

Is Alsace really that bad of a ship?

[whole crypt]

agir's skill

[viscid swift]

Agir, Harbin, Hakuryu

[mental marlin]

ok that sucks lol

[boreal oriole]

Nah

[mellow cape]

Enough to fully max her but I don't know what she replaces

[atomic abyss]

no
alsace is the very very strong lol

[soft raft]

no she's really good
Whoever told you she's bad is clearly smoking some weird shit

[rain vine]

go to the skin section of the shop

[whole crypt]

I don't remember what they did with Hakuryuu but both Agir and Harbin were buffed yeh

[lethal heath]

Ppl just have expectations of “ new UR BB must powercreep the others “ mentality a lot

[mental marlin]

thx

[boreal oriole]

They're probably thinking of Laffey II when Making Mogadors skill like smh

[lethal heath]

Unfortunately I’d love to go to game feedback about it and address the issue with mogador but mentioning new ships aren’t allowed as feedback option

[forest palm]

it's really only a vocal minority most often, but since they chirp the loudest that's all you really hear

[viscid swift]

they don't take suggestions for new ships to be added to the game

[lethal heath]

That’s my point even if it’s a serious thing needed due to a folley

[uneven cave]

I don't think going to game feedback about Mog is gonna do anything, devs should be aware of the issue by now

[viscid swift]

there's nothing about feed back on ships that have been added

[lethal heath]

^

[atomic abyss]

[grizzled creek]

Do we unlock submarines at some point ? There's a mission I have that shows it but I don't got any

[atomic abyss]

if you wanna suggest buff for ships
#game-feedback takes them

[lethal heath]

If you want to suggest new things for the game - please use !submit command in bot-spam and follow instructions from @mellow fractal
Please check collected-feedback or our trello page at https://trello.com/b/XqSmXLq4/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-feedback first to check if similar idea was suggested before.
Sorry, but keep in mind that we don't take suggestions for new ships, events, retrofits, skins, as well as release order/reruns of old events.

If you want to share your feedback or opinion about the state of the game in this channel - make sure to keep it civil and concise.
Please don't forget to check pins in this channel for more information.

Thank you, Commanders!

That part I bold in that just makes me wanna be cautious if I do so I don’t think I should

[whole crypt]

we all know what's wrong with mogs
whether devs change/buff her skill is the devs' decision
and the fix doesn't come overnight

[atomic abyss]

what that means

is that we dont want people to suggest COMPLETELY NEW SHIPS

[lethal heath]

Oh, I must of read that wrong, sorry sorry

[atomic abyss]

that are NOT in the game

[whole crypt]

sounds like "please don't ask us to add ship X kthx"

[atomic abyss]

^

[lethal heath]

Ok ok I’m sorry I didn’t realize the error on my part that was just me misreading that then 🙇‍♂️

[tired condor]

should i buy a dock expansion or just cope

[mellow cape]

What are people using to farm this event :0

[whole crypt]

but yeh you're free to add your feedback though I'm sure CN has made it loud and clear to the devs what's wrong with mogsies

[lethal heath]

If you have gems for it go for it, if you want something otherwise save it if it’s like a skin or whatnot-

[atomic abyss]

nothing
no one is farming it yet except super super try hards

[whole crypt]

anything you need to level as usual, unless tryharding lowcost

[lethal heath]

Fair

[atomic abyss]

no point when B/D isn't open after all

[whole crypt]

but it is on JP

[pine crystal]

Is it just me or is the wiki down?

[mellow cape]

Mmm

Do I wait for b/d to open

[atomic abyss]

nope, is up

[whole crypt]

normally you do, yes

[exotic flax]

Am I doing something wrong if my fleets only have 3 tiles of reach and not 4, or is 3 ok?

[uneven cave]

3 is normal

[atomic abyss]

3 is normal if you're not using like 2-3 DDs

[pine crystal]

Is there a chance I would've gotten blocked for opening too many wiki links?

[atomic abyss]

yeah possible

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Stage_UI

[atomic abyss]

i think the wiki does have overzealous ddos protection

[jaunty vault]

#wiki-feedback and ask them if you can get unbanned

[tired condor]

is yuudachi worth retrofitting

[jaunty vault]

yes

[whole crypt]

not bad but not a priority

[cobalt rapids]

not unless u alr got her retro item

[viscid swift]

depends, if you don't have her retro item and are short in UR bullins no

[whole crypt]

do you have the retrofit item, because if not it costs you spec cores

[tired condor]

nah i dont got it

[cobalt rapids]

skip then

[grizzled lion]

Is there any reason to snag meta out of the event shop? Just pulled her from the build section.

[mellow cape]

I'm hesitant to max out Alsace because I've maxed out soyuz when she came out and I haven't used her yet, what makes Alsace different?

[cobalt rapids]

no, u saved 8k event pts

[eternal basalt]

Patience, 3 more hours

[atomic abyss]

she can fire shots at the start of the battle

[grizzled lion]

@eternal basalt time gates are dumb

[mellow cape]

Like NJ? loll

[atomic abyss]

NJ can't

[whole crypt]

#game-feedback

[tired condor]

should i retrofit unicorn then

[cobalt rapids]

if u havent used soyuz yet then u could never use alsace either

[atomic abyss]

like richelieu, jean bart, flandre, clemenceau

preloaded shots

[soft raft]

Ender means that Alsace has a preload
which NJ doesnt have

[whole crypt]

why have you not used your maxed soyuz

[mellow cape]

Oh I see... Mmmm I could make a nice mob fleet with Alsace I guess

[atomic abyss]

focus on soyuz first if you have not

[whole crypt]

or do you mean you haven't used alsace because soyuz maxed

[mellow cape]

Nooo more like soyuz felt wasted

I fully maxed soyuz out thinking I would use her

[whole crypt]

then use her?

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

why aren't you using her though

[soft raft]

Soyuz is literally top 3 UR BB in terms of damage, why wouldnt you use her?

[mellow cape]

I don't know what to use her in loll. And I haven't used soyuz cause my BB fleet is already ridiculously strong lol

[atomic abyss]

i highly doubt your BB fleet is ridiculously strong

[whole crypt]

and soyuz should make it even stronger

[viscid swift]

well what is your BB fleet

[tired condor]

i have the most tech points in eagle union, should i go for kearsarge

[cobalt rapids]

go for ships u have near d30

[atomic abyss]

unless you have musashi, bismarck zwei AND vanguard in there already

[oblique thunder]

Should I pick NJ over shinano in the ur exchange?

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[whole crypt]

even if you have Musashi/BisZwei/VG I'd swap Musashi out for Soyuz

[cobalt rapids]

pick shinano if u got nothing

[hollow gust]

depends on what you have

[oblique thunder]

Should I SS the URs I currently have?

[viscid swift]

sure

[whole crypt]

bye

[atomic abyss]

musashi goes to mob, soyuz replaces her

[eager mulch]

ender he has bisz musashi and vanguard

[soft raft]

She would yeet Musashi

[cobalt rapids]

yea i guess u dont need any changes

[mellow cape]

Oh lol, would timing work out with preload tho

[atomic abyss]

because musashi excels on mob even more

[soft raft]

preload doesnt affect timings of any kind at all

[whole crypt]

I just refuse to use Musashi in boss anymore because lazy to change META/PvP loadout

[viscid swift]

Alsace can store 2 BB salvos so no her preload has no affect on timing whatsover, just free damage

[whole crypt]

preloads actually affect timing if you're not using Alsace

[atomic abyss]

*preload BBs

[mellow cape]

Oh wow

[grizzled lion]

Is a or c better at giving the event crystals?

[whole crypt]

B/D

[grizzled lion]

Besides the x3 on a side

[mellow cape]

Guess I'll play around with Alsace after I max her

[grizzled lion]

@whole crypt we are time gated. So no one is playing those yet

[whole crypt]

if you want to bother you can low cost the A x3

[oblique thunder]

URs I currently have @hollow gust

[hollow gust]

so wait, also its only en thats doesnt have D

[whole crypt]

just wait for timegate to open, only tryhards bother with A/C before unlock

[grizzled lion]

Already done the x3 for today

[mellow cape]

Also musashi will probably have to go on my cross barrage fleet, my mob fleet is tight lolll

[atomic abyss]

just wait like 4h

i mean mob fleet with 3CV is just

[eternal basalt]

3h

[whole crypt]

mob 3 CV is great for OS

[mellow cape]

It's actually super fast for OPSI

[tired condor]

my ships hella wack, can i post them here and hopefully get help with making two fleets

[atomic abyss]

not with those 3 CVs

[viscid swift]

it is though

[mellow cape]

Like my avg mob clear time is like about 7-8 secs with this mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

people who say 3 CVs are great for OS just never tried using preload BBs before

[whole crypt]

the only CV you'd possibly swap in instead of those is like preload Aquila

[mellow cape]

The GRIDMAN fleet is just super good for mobbing tbh

[viscid swift]

something something BB time freeze when firing

[hollow gust]

well people who dont know how to use cvs think bbs are better'

[topaz smelt]

Ppl who say use 3cvs fell for the cn 1s time save cope

[whole crypt]

I refuse to gridman OS because it means less slots for crossfleet and there are better ships for harder fights if you want to just use mob for almost everything

[cobalt rapids]

any fleet with uni, preload torp and fast launcher aka impero can do those timings

[mellow cape]

Fairrr

But gridman fleet is cute and flashy lol

[whole crypt]

I like coping for 1s

[topaz smelt]

Save 1s forget you were doing opsi for 1hr

[hollow gust]

just use mob for ccrossfleet

[inland shoal]

Probs lost more seconds optimising than gained grom the optimisation

[atomic abyss]

this so much lmfao

especially with meta showdowns

[whole crypt]

well that was like until 8 weeks ago, I swapped in Rodney META and she never left

[atomic abyss]

oh please, people here myself included have spent way more time trying to optimise their rodM teams than actually killing her

[topaz smelt]

Opsi mob is still a leveling fleet for me, meta skills aren't gonna level themselves

[whole crypt]

I have no META skills left to level until next month

[mellow cape]

Probably the better way to go

[cobalt rapids]

how would u kill her if ure not optimizing

[topaz smelt]

Tfw you're trying to optimize a bad fleet

[cobalt rapids]

sounds like bad optimize

[atomic abyss]

we call friend support and go grind something else clearly

[topaz smelt]

Nagato comps are just god awful

[tired condor]

is anchorage good

[atomic abyss]

one of the best

[inland shoal]

Nagato is cute so it's fine

[cobalt rapids]

friend support is dead on amagi after first 1,5 month

[atomic abyss]

using sushi?

[lethal tangle]

is pulling for dupe worth it? I think I'm short on bullins and can only Lmb alsace with what I currently have..

[atomic abyss]

pulling for dupes is not worth due to cubes go bye bye

[topaz smelt]

I ran Sashi in mine but there's alternatives to her

[tired condor]

yall think vanguard is the next ur limited?

[viscid swift]

I've said before that the only time I'd recommend going for a dupe is if you're like 10 pulls away from pity, have a good stockpile of cubes still, and are short on UR Bullins still

that still stands

[atomic abyss]

we don't know

speculation isn't this channel's forte

[whole crypt]

next rerun UR probably but we don't know when that is

[soft raft]

She's the next UR in line to rerun and the 2nd next event in general in line to rerun
As for the dates, we have no clue

[mellow cape]

Mmm isn't it that new UR ... D something lol

[viscid swift]

it's a coin toss if Vanguard reruns before or after the JP Anni the this point and reruns have never been consistent in their scheduling

[lethal tangle]

thanks, so mog will just be waiting in the backlog for now.

[whole crypt]

she's still probably the next rerun UR, we just don't know if she's the next rerun and when

[eternal basalt]

No rerun announcements in CN stream

[tired condor]

the event ur is good?

[whole crypt]

yes

[eager mulch]

UR good

[soft raft]

Gacha URs always good

[mental marlin]

is it worth it to pull for the event banner?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

Yes

[mental marlin]

ok 🙂 for the banner units?

[novel solstice]

yes, you want the UR from the event banner.

[viscid swift]

for Alsace

[mental marlin]

mhm mhm ok

[tired condor]

i meant mog

[soft raft]

Mog is also worth getting

[atomic abyss]

a UR is always worth getting

[eager mulch]

Mog good when she doesn’t kill herself

[cobalt rapids]

mog is free so worth

[viscid swift]

free stuff is always worth getting

[blazing shale]

Why does Helena want plygun? Is her AoA good?

[eternal basalt]

Do SP, get mog free

[atomic abyss]

because helena is not expected to do much with her guns to begin with

[soft raft]

Technically not "Free" Free, but you dont have to use cubes to get her so that's a big plus

[jaunty vault]

more damage is more damage

[cobalt rapids]

plygun is strongest cl gun so every cl gun mg wants it

[mellow cape]

Oh how is mogador?

[vernal osprey]

Not anything much, just wondering if you can change the time in Azur Lane?

[atomic abyss]

you cannot change the time in AL

[vernal osprey]

Man...

[eternal basalt]

Can you time travel?

[mental marlin]

and should i invest my medal of honors into the medail banner?

[eager mulch]

you can change the time in al by waiting

[cobalt rapids]

only use em in shop, requisition is bad

[forest palm]

they probably could add local time as an option

[mental marlin]

oh unlucky 😦

[forest palm]

but like... go to #game-feedback

[eternal basalt]

Local time is at HQ

[topaz smelt]

~~small indie company ~~

[languid isle]

Does anyone have some decent damage fleet for rodney meta fight? My cv fleet just dealing wet noodle damage againts her,

[cobalt rapids]

check pins

[soft raft]

Step 1) Desync your backline

[atomic abyss]

you likely did not read the boss gimmicks...
where she goes invul for attacking her too often

[languid isle]

Oof thats harsh

[atomic abyss]

the tldr is that
your backline must not attack within 1.5s of each other

[plain niche]

Hello, I’m rather new to the game. I read the guide that I should farm 3-4 for at least a few repair kit before I moved on, but I want better gear so I can try to do the event hard mode eventually. Any advice? I can provide more information as I’m not sure what I need to show.

[topaz smelt]

1.6

[atomic abyss]

on manual that's pretty easy to tell

wait

what guide told you to farm 3-4

[eager mulch]

newbguide

[whole crypt]

the outdated ectl newbguide

[eternal basalt]

Saaaam... (prob not that one)

[topaz smelt]

ectl explicitly says drop rates are ass and to not farm

[whole crypt]

there's that too, yes

[slow birch]

On the wiki, what classifies as a Light Rerun?

[eternal basalt]

1 week rerun

[atomic abyss]

1 week events with loads of bonus currency drops

[plain niche]

Ok, so I should just move on through main story?

[slow birch]

ooh thank you

[atomic abyss]

yes you should

[whole crypt]

all major event reruns nowadays are light, we don't get full format anymore so there's not much you need to think about

[plain saffron]

Which is pretty much all event nowadays except collab

[whole crypt]

collab reruns are cope though, no news of any new collab reruns so far

[eternal basalt]

if we ever get those again

[plain niche]

Do I just go as far as possible?

[dawn hamlet]

once the new event chapter is out, is there gonna be another timegate for another chapter?

[viscid swift]

well it does rather explicitly say to farm for gear prints and let's be honest some of the descriptions for the drop ships, especially Akagi and Kaga are somewhat misleading as well

[soft raft]

aim for at least W9

[plain saffron]

I'm just saying the fact, not saying we'll get any

[atomic abyss]

there are no other chapters

[topaz smelt]

ideally you take your single fleet rush to w9

[plain niche]

Ok.

[eternal basalt]

Every major event works this way btw

[tired condor]

whats the best way to grind coins

[eternal basalt]

12-4

[plain niche]

So do I just ignore gear and rush w9?

[eager mulch]

12+

[viscid swift]

you don't farm for gear prints no in the main campaign

[atomic abyss]

you can beat all content till around w10 by sheer over levelling and just minimal gear

[whole crypt]

you don't ignore gear but you don't primarily get gear by farming print drops

[tired condor]

so do i just do the latest story chapter i can do

[plain niche]

Ah, I see.

[atomic abyss]

right now tho, might be better to do the event

[dawn hamlet]

oh I see, that's great then, very tiny timegate then thanks for the info

[plain niche]

If I have the sr gear development cube, is there any gear I should get from there?

[topaz smelt]

results of unmaintained guides

[kind slate]

What secondary gun should be equipped on alsace and bbs in general ?

[viscid swift]

same as any other BB

[atomic abyss]

same as any non US BB

[viscid swift]

what gears could you get from that again?

[topaz smelt]

catas

[viscid swift]

just catapults

[eager mulch]

can you get quad mags from that?

[viscid swift]

you can

[kind slate]

yea ik, but could i have some examples? sorry for the hassle but

[whole crypt]

triple 155

[viscid swift]

this would be your bog standard https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_155mm_(3rd_Year_Type)#Type_3-0

[icy mountain]

honestly get the triple 155 ur bbs r gonna need it

but thats up to u

[viscid swift]

the catapult will remain more relevant long term, and you need more of them overall

[atomic abyss]

i'd say gold catapults
if not maybe the quad mags

[viscid swift]

155 is just a stat stick half the time anyway

[icy mountain]

that box he recently sent has no catapult

[viscid swift]

those 3 images are of the same box selection as the first one

[whole crypt]

I mean if you don't need the catapults then there's still roombas and quadmags, 155 isn't very high on the priority list

[plain niche]

There’s 4 boxes, I should just get 4 of those?

[viscid swift]

4 catapults yes, unless you have a ton already

[whole crypt]

we don't know what your current gear situation is so

[plain niche]

True

[whole crypt]

personally I'd cope with purple catapults and take quads first, or roombas if you're moving into ch12 soon

[topaz smelt]

its extremely unlikely hes got atleast 2 catas

[whole crypt]

but in the long term you'll be using significantly more gold catapults

[compact tapir]

question from a newbie: currently the only UR I have is Alsace, should I build around it first? or wait for the free UR or others ? given how long it takes to get the UR bulin ?

[topaz smelt]

everything else in the box are easily accessible

urs arent worth using unless mlb

[whole crypt]

get both URs but don't bother using them before you can LB them, a budget newbie fleet will work fine for most part

[compact tapir]

thanks

[wary lake]

Is the 3D dorm with Sirius is available now?

[atomic abyss]

nyope

[keen sable]

in the long term i need quad mags and have sufficient catapults you really should get what you need. that will help your future more than nerfing your present.

[whole crypt]

soon™️

[worthy pulsar]

does high-eff combat plan work for this event

[whole crypt]

in the long term you can just make quad mags but pults need to be farmed
you also use 2 catapults per carrier and maybe 1 torp per vanguard

[plain niche]

Sorry last question, I just put together some formation with portland, would appreciate if I know who I should also focus on.

[topaz smelt]

alsace, uni, sara, portland,jav, helena

[viscid swift]

in furture don't invest in stuff willy nilly like this...

[whole crypt]

the row of 2LB SRs hurt me

[worthy pulsar]

do you guys think 210 slots is a good amount of storage for someone who keeps a lot of their mlb copies around or do you guys think I should change the collection style if I want a bit of farming comfort(retire/enhance less often)

[soft raft]

other notable ships you have are Hood, NJ, Nelson (Tho she's not as neccesary since you havae two UR BBs), and Aurora

[viscid swift]

even if you aren't a collector I still reccomend 300 to 400 to be comfortable

[plain niche]

Sorry. I didn’t know, I whaled for alsace abd the skin.😔

[whole crypt]

game has over 600 unique ships that need dock space, it's up to you how much you want to keep

[worthy pulsar]

I'm not spending any money on gems though so it's kinda a limited resource to go around isn't it

[keen sable]

i can craft 20 catapults for free. alt can craft 10. and no i don't farm catapults

[plain niche]

So I’m not suppose to limit break sr?

[whole crypt]

which is why we don't recomend spending F2P gems on anything besides dock and maybe dorm

[keen sable]

you need to change your dock not your style. get more dock

[viscid swift]

you are, which is why having so many at 2 LB is just

[whole crypt]

you LB any ship you actually use

[keen sable]

seems more like delayed lb/low cost to me

it's not like they have capped ships

[plain niche]

Ah, I’m currently short on coin to lb

[inland shoal]

Well 1 ship at mlb is better than 2 at 2lb

[whole crypt]

unless you just leave your quads on all the ships you've stopped using after leveling

[inland shoal]

"Why should you limit breaking [...]"

[kind slate]

Is this good secondary for bbs?

[keen sable]

mostly just bad luck probably. in six years i have like 3 mag torps from boxes. opened another 100 recently and 0.

[viscid swift]

yes, but its not worth making

[whole crypt]

yeh but nowadays quads are in lab

[frail eagle]

is there any way to disable the x ship is exhausted notification?

[soft raft]

Decent but nowadays only boomers that made them years ago use them

Easier to just get the Triple 155mm

[plain niche]

Ok. In that case, can I get a 1 formation I can use atm, I’ll mlb all of them when I can.

[frank pulsar]

just use triple 155 and triple 155 kai, no point in that gun tbh

[soft raft]

No
And you better let your ships rest

[inland shoal]

Let it recover
Use a different ship

[frail eagle]

how long do they have to rest?

[viscid swift]

Alsace, Unicorn, Saratoga, Portland, Javelin, Helena

[plain niche]

Ok. Thank you everyone for your help!

I’ll rush to w9

[keen sable]

up to 2 to 6 hours depending on dorm, oath, onsen, etc

[jaunty vault]

does this event have onsen

[atomic abyss]

onsadly no

[jaunty vault]

❌

[icy mountain]

does pr catchup reset?

[jaunty vault]

no

[jaunty vault]

[icy mountain]

if it reaches 300 in that pr then it doesnt do catchups anymore?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[icy mountain]

damn, i shouldve put my catchup on avp or agir instead of anchorage then

[jaunty vault]

you can move to DR or PR of another season

[icy mountain]

or maybe putting anchorage is good?

[keen sable]

not how it works

[jaunty vault]

PR4 is coinable

[viscid swift]

DRs have separate catchups from PRs
PRs get 300 total in each season, DRs get 150 each

[keen sable]

pr season share 300. dr have individual 150

[icy mountain]

cuz im currently 273/300 in research catchup

[whole crypt]

I'd say Anchorage higher priority than AvP
DRs have their own 150 each

[icy mountain]

i meant for pr not dr mb

[keen sable]

splitting is a terrible idea btw unless you don't want agir and haku

[icy mountain]

forgot that agir is a dr ship

[willow lion]

is there a way to organize dock a-z?

[tiny kettle]

when's the next UR event/rerun? wondering if i should mlb alsace and/or mogador or save bulins (got 3 bulins + 14k proto)

[viscid swift]

we don't know, next new UR event shouldn't be until September, next rerun who knows at this point

[tiny kettle]

alright, thanks

[whole crypt]

does Alsace and Brennus add to enough tech for Brest?

[atomic abyss]

brest needed 150 right

[whole crypt]

250

[atomic abyss]

a mlb 120 alsace alone would be enough

[tired condor]

mlb 120 alsace will give 250 tech points?

[atomic abyss]

256

brennus is 126

[whole crypt]

guess I can start working on her on my rally account...

[tired condor]

ok thank you

[stone sluice]

No afaik. But I recall I got 90 anchorage blueprints from the catch up a year ago and I did the catch up again 2 months ago and it was 0/150 so I was able to get the total 150 + the 90 from before. I don’t know why that happened

[atomic abyss]

anchorage is PR rarity, so she does not have 150

she shares the 300 BP catch up pool with AvP and Marco

[little tree]

should i go for the meta ship in event

[undone plover]

is there a CV cheat sheet with AvP instead of implacable?

[little tree]

or save my crystals for the UR vouchers

[stone sluice]

Well that, it restarted from 0 again so I did the complete catch up

[sweet delta]

They were lost to the sands of time

[atomic abyss]

[soft raft]

What is bro waffling about

[atomic abyss]

well you can farm her from b3/d3

[sweet delta]

N/150 is not anchorage catch-up

[viscid swift]

if you're event remotely active you will not need to exchange event points for vouchers to get the first copy of Mogador

[undone plover]

u probably just switched the catchup to a different ship/season

[hollow gust]

i still have it lol

[little tree]

okay i used all my oil on the event today so i think ill be okay

[undone plover]

pls share 🙏

[gloomy mesa]

gold, tripple 406mm main gun any good on hood?

[stone sluice]

I got confused. I did 150 anchorage and 150 AvP. So now there is no way to do Marco Polo catch up. But I recall I did 90 anchorage a year ago and I stopped since I changed PR focus

[soft raft]

nop nvm, which one

[gloomy mesa]

nice

[viscid swift]

which gold triple 406mm, there's a lot

[meager gyro]

i already got roon, fdg and ägir, which pr should i start next that will be the most value

[viscid swift]

Anchorage

[soft raft]

that 90 must've been from a bonus catchup or regular researches

[eager mulch]

are there any relevant gold triple 406s other than MK-1

[meager gyro]

and if i cant get her?

[viscid swift]

Champaign Gun

[misty tree]

Hard Arbiter Fleet Building

[eager mulch]

so true bestie

[viscid swift]

start working on getting tech for her and do AvP in the mean time

[hollow gust]

nvm cant find it, snow sent me one but i cant find his discord

[meager gyro]

avp?

[viscid swift]

August von Percival

[stone sluice]

Nope. It was focus research. I should be mistaking something. I’ll try to see if I can remember correctly cause makes no sense to me

[hollow gust]

no its shit

[viscid swift]

that gun is bad on everyone

[vale spindle]

theres the temporary catchup events like this most recent one for brest

[gloomy mesa]

beutiful

[stone sluice]

I’m sure it was not the case

[vale spindle]

so you might be including those prints into the permanent catchup even though they are separate

[undone plover]

that is okay I will do some maths

[meager gyro]

how do i get tech again?

[viscid swift]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[gloomy mesa]

like every version of it?

[viscid swift]

yes, every rarity of it is bad

[hollow gust]

just use purple 406 mk6

[meager gyro]

whats the fastest way to get xp for the pr ships?

[gloomy mesa]

amazing

[inland shoal]

Huh so as much as the KMS UR BBs
FFNF = KMS confirmed?

[swift needle]

I'm blind or there is no way to change UI back to the old one?

[whole crypt]

probably same case as KMS, to offset low ship count

[inland shoal]

Fastest way is technically data packs but that's a waste of protocores, so just grind

[atomic abyss]

there is, in the settings

[hollow gust]

w12, three ships

[inland shoal]

You are blind

[meager gyro]

whats w12?

[zinc prairie]

guys does the event stages gives different amount? or is all the same to all stages? (fragments)

[inland shoal]

Chapter 12

[mental lantern]

Hey if im not mistaken does alsace get a special ability when using a french gun?

[meager gyro]

dont have that yet

[viscid swift]

push to W12 first then and then grind for PR ships

[hollow gust]

world 9 +

[stone sluice]

You can change it back from settings

[whole crypt]

you are indeed mistaken, please read skill text carefully

[remote yarrow]

Ammount of what? Event points? If you mean that, nope, D3 gives the most

[mental lantern]

Let me clarify: does she get a starting barrage at the beginning of an attack when equipped with a gun from iris libre

[sweet delta]

Just read the skills

[meager gyro]

im at 11-1 rn, whats the best world to farm blueprint wise?

[topaz smelt]

w12

[soft raft]

you dont farm campaign for gear

[topaz smelt]

you farm coins to get stuff from research

[keen sable]

highest chapter you can do? what's a blueprint?

[meager gyro]

this, arent those blueprints?

[keen sable]

no those are designs

[remote yarrow]

Dont farm for gear

[meager gyro]

this game is confusing me

[meager gyro]

how do i get gear then?

[zinc prairie]

thanks : D

[hollow gust]

chance to recieve following designs

[keen sable]

it says it right at the top

[whole crypt]

they are technically gear blueprints just a matter of naming
but you shouldn't farm for them regardless

[remote yarrow]

Tech boxes,research,gear lab

[keen sable]

event shop is always good

[meager gyro]

tech boxes only give me shit and i cant craft anything bc i got no mats

[icy mountain]

also, is alsace almost on par with soyuz?

[meager gyro]

even if i had the mats i have no idea what to craft

[icy mountain]

or are they the same?

[remote yarrow]

Are you composing to T3 ones? Like the purples

Or are you opening the grey and blue ones?

[vale spindle]

gear lab and research are your best friend

[topaz smelt]

its prob more like you cant recognize whats good

[meager gyro]

im crafting up to the purple ones

[vale spindle]

if you need gear lab materials its time to start farming operation siren

[remote yarrow]

Also this

[meager gyro]

purple, gold, and rainbow only give me shit

[meager gyro]

funny, my ships are getting raped there bc i got no gear

[zinc prairie]

Do i spam Event stage C3 or wait for D3? (farming for points/fragments)

[hallow iron]

Is there a recomended fleet formation?? I just notice there's some diff formation available

[remote yarrow]

Please refrain from using that word, ty

[gloomy mesa]

Any of these good on hood?

[vale spindle]

double line advance for general use
if enemy planes are giving you issues then using circular defense also fine
ignore single line advance

[undone plover]

does 24.25 shinano and 24.48 avp work or is the difference too much?

[gloomy mesa]

Any of these good for hood?

[topaz smelt]

twin410

[sweet delta]

Depends on haku

[vale spindle]

twin 410 purple in the second row

[hallow iron]

Thanksss

[wraith oyster]

how good are new urs

[gloomy mesa]

Thanks

[vale spindle]

stay tuned tm needs more testing etc

tldr urs good who would have guessed wao

[keen sable]

hmm someone bought commander level boost?

[undone plover]

24.56

[meager gyro]

i think im soft locked in this game

[remote yarrow]

You arent, its just confusing for new players

[hollow gust]

dude this game is easy asf, you can run bottom tier ships and still beat w12 and above

[wraith oyster]

hopefully dd better than yuudachi and shimakaze, and hopefully bb better than new jersey

[sweet delta]

It's good for 3 strikes

[gloomy mesa]

Hood

[undone plover]

it is for opsi so i guess it works. thanks last strike is 70.43 avp and 69.74 nano fwiw

[meager gyro]

i got 0 gear

[keen sable]

that's sort of the core for loot boxes and gatcha. You overcome low chance with more chance.

[viscid swift]

steal that that Twin 120mm off Penn for Hood

[keen sable]

128 skc

[topaz smelt]

sounding more like a skill issue than rng issues

[hollow gust]

you see those purple gears the other dude is using? those are good hgear

[topaz smelt]

im willing to bet if you show youre gear none of your good ones are used or enhanced

[keen sable]

careful the game gives bis +6 ones

[gloomy mesa]

Hood anti air

[topaz smelt]

hes in w11, they should be close to +10

[atomic abyss]

he's new

[vale spindle]

anti air doesnt matter that much until chapter 12 dont worry

[gloomy mesa]

Okay

[topaz smelt]

you can just go purple quad bofors or just any gold gear as temp

[stone sluice]

Yes. It worths the money obviously if you are way under lvl 70

[gloomy mesa]

Finally aux

Currently she has sk radar and autoloader

[topaz smelt]

autoloader isnt good

[viscid swift]

steal the shell from pennsylvania

[meager gyro]

all i have

[gloomy mesa]

Keep the radar?

[vale spindle]

yes

[hollow gust]

use your purple gear... they are very very good

[topaz smelt]

now wheres the purple

[viscid swift]

you do realize higher rarity doesn't automatically mean better in AL right

[zinc prairie]

does W15 requires 3 more CV's for support thingy?

[vale spindle]

yes

[viscid swift]

requires no, but they are helpful

[zinc prairie]

crap TvT

[meager gyro]

no idea what to use on who

[hollow gust]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[viscid swift]

start a thread, post your fleets and post your depot including what's equipped on ships by tapping equipped on

[zinc prairie]

these are all my cv's TvT

[keen sable]

are you asking what cvs to use?

[zinc prairie]

i would like to

[viscid swift]

do in #bot-spam /w15

there's a section specifically for support fleet CVs

[zinc prairie]

oki

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /w15 but you want lusty's basically. failing that langley and chen hai. since not even that better work on langley again.

[meager gyro]

depoz

[meager gyro]

did

[wicked hawk]

Hello everyone, can you please tell me which 2 fleets can be made?

[topaz smelt]

for what content

[spare grail]

Really should retrofit unicorn

[viscid swift]

okay for a start this shoul;d probably be moved to a thread but can you get any UR Bullins right now

[cloud fractal]

Given how inexperienced I am, how good are the new ships on the event banner?

[remote yarrow]

UR good that's more than enough reason to pull

[topaz smelt]

mogbad

[wicked hawk]

I'm at lvl 42 probably not yet

[jaunty vault]

huh lvl42 with that dock?

[wicked hawk]

yes

[remote yarrow]

Maybe he justs likes to pull for characters and then just close the game

[jaunty vault]

damn

[worldly pewter]

💳

[umbral briar]

Can this time be adjusted?

[hard mesa]

[novel condor]

maybe t hey dont grind as much

[vale spindle]

no

[jaunty vault]

no
for now

[vale spindle]

you are forced to become american

[worldly pewter]

do u need more than server time ?

[umbral briar]

It's a shame even though this is very good, like using the wallpaper engine

[soft raft]

I'm in America and the time is still wrong

[jaunty vault]

[muted wind]

wrong kind of american then

[jaunty vault]

this event has brought back lots of people from the dead huh

[inland shoal]

Server time is arguably more useful for this game than real time imo

[umbral briar]

well hope will next update

[jaunty vault]

[muted wind]

a setting would still be nice. or just show both.

[remote yarrow]

Am I being targeted?

[viscid swift]

took me a bit but you're not gonna be able to pull two fleets off with that
stick to one fleet of Musashi, Unicorn, Saratoga, Portland, Helena, Sakawa

also give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[jaunty vault]

read

[atomic abyss]

considering that you can just check real time by dragging the top of the screen...

[jaunty vault]

qol improvement

[wicked hawk]

thanks

[eternal basalt]

Effort? In my auto lane?

[hallow mica]

Need help pls. How tf do I get out of the zoom on Taihou’s swimsuit skin?

[topaz smelt]

you guys dont just check al every 30mins and click continue while doing other stuff?

[jaunty vault]

elaborate

with a screenshot

[atomic abyss]

wasn't there a bug

[jaunty vault]

theres always a bug

[hexed garden]

What's the battle result cutscene?
Is it that part to show the loot after the end of the battle?

[topaz smelt]

notabug

[muted wind]

eye icon on the left, then tap the left slider in the bottom right, then adjust and save

[inland shoal]

Loot not rly, just the exp

[hallow mica]

It worked. Thx

[grizzled lion]

Ok. So I was just browsing the labs. Is she useful at all. I like her design. I know and will be doing friederich from pr2 1st. But was wondering If she would be alright to go for after friederich?

[remote yarrow]

She's really good, but forget about her for a long time

[soft raft]

Priority is FdG > All of PR4 > At least Plymouth and Brest from PR5 > Everyone else

Kear is good but not a absolute must

[atomic abyss]

she is strong as fuck
no you should not get her next because you can't dev30 her for at least another 4 months

[topaz smelt]

general recommendations is fdg -> pr4

[grizzled lion]

Dev30?

[topaz smelt]

all pr ships are shit before d30

[remote yarrow]

It's like MLB but for PR and DR ships

[atomic abyss]

for PRs, they don't get limit breaks or stat enhancements
they get dev levels

for older PRs like FdG and Anchorage, you can use coins in place of BPs

[jaunty vault]

you can dev30 ships while you research(shipyard) other ships

[atomic abyss]

you cannot do this for newer ones like kearsarge

you otherwise get these BPs from research

[grizzled lion]

I have a few bps. Bur none for the 1 I researching now. Almost done with it but wanted to finish it off before I go for friederich as well. Even though it was just a click and start with no idea of where to start

[atomic abyss]

you need 513 for FdG and Kearsarge
each

[grizzled lion]

Yea. I seen that.

[soft raft]

Here go read this
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[grizzled lion]

Not reading anymore guides as some were confusing and seemed to give points that were out dated.

[soft raft]

nah this one, and others on this site are good

[grizzled lion]

And I've read enough to atleast know to do friederich after the mess up

[viscid swift]

that guide is perfectly good and up to date

[topaz smelt]

hard to go wrong unless youre using yt as a resource

[wraith oyster]

anything sam puts out is okay to read

[topaz smelt]

sams my main editor for a reason

[grizzled lion]

@topaz smelt well. I just looked and started. Didn't even read or watch before that. After it I read stuff and the correct was friederich. But it went into getting the iron blood points and the sourslce was telling me to hit events that were already done and over with since 2019 🤣

[soft raft]

have you heard of a thing called War Archive

[grizzled lion]

Yes.

[remote yarrow]

I smell outdated reddit guide or yt

[topaz smelt]

who?

[soft raft]

Such event from 2019 is in there

[grizzled lion]

But it was telling me to hit the event stores

Which is no longer available

And not yt. Wiki

[viscid swift]

I'm afraid to ask which guide this was

[soft raft]

dont tell me you were just looking at the wiki's historical page for the event

[jaunty vault]

update when

[grizzled lion]

Idk. Someone in here posted it l

[worldly pewter]

usually the yt will put the date on which the video has been uploadeD

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology this?

[grizzled lion]

Idk. It was about a week or 2 ago but 🤣 but I've also noticed some of yall change your display names which I always hate when people do that cause then idk who is who 🤣

[jaunty vault]

skill issue

[grizzled lion]

Nope.

No need to change a display name. It's not underwear 🤷‍♂️

[vale spindle]

im the only english first language person here so its a given

[vale spindle]

Discord has a profile notes feature

[jaunty vault]

cap

[viscid swift]

well....

[vale spindle]

I just use that to keep track

[grizzled lion]

I don't go to people's profiles randomly 🤷‍♂️

[vale spindle]

Ive had this for a year or more by now

[grizzled lion]

And I don't really want to do that daily cause someone can't make up their mind about how they want to be displayed. Not my problem

[inner delta]

[vale spindle]

the world does not revolve around people thus i revolve around the world

[atomic abyss]

oi

oh wait yooks is here

[grizzled lion]

My display name and puc has been the same since I started on discord several years ago

[vale spindle]

same here but thats personal preference

[inner delta]

im sorry to break it to you, but the world doesn't revolve around you

[topaz smelt]

i have this on sam, had to censor

[jaunty vault]

[grizzled lion]

@inner delta no shit....

Captain obvious 🤦‍♂️

[jaunty vault]

do you have one for me

[atomic abyss]

ahem

[jaunty vault]

[worldly pewter]

not a renhex right ?

[topaz smelt]

i usually only add one on ppl that change their names often

[grizzled lion]

@vale spindle we haven't had enough convos for me to send you 1 anyway 🤣

[jaunty vault]

😊

[vale spindle]

which is fair enough sometimes i do too

but i dont accept friend requests from randoms unfortunately

[viscid swift]

all I can say is the reason we link guides is because they will do a much better and in-depth job of explaining things than we will in a few messages

[topaz smelt]

while also trusting theyll be maintained

[viscid swift]

the idea is to give people a broader understanding and if they have question on certain details that's when we go to actual responses

[grizzled lion]

I learn differently. Same way it was in school for me. Books or guides do it in a way thats just not helpful for me. Hard to explain

[topaz smelt]

its like tier 1 support vs tier 2 support

[remote yarrow]

But it's the same at the end of the day tho, written help

[worldly pewter]

en reading moments ?

[grizzled lion]

Nor really

[novel condor]

why not just give it a quick read and if you do have questions you can ask em here?

[topaz smelt]

we have an ai chat bot (guide) that helps with basic questions then actual people when that fails

[viscid swift]

we're happy to explain stuff, but when you ask about a very broad topic like research, that's very difficult to condense down and we will inevitably get some details wrong and miss others

[grizzled lion]

@viscid swift the way yall did was perfect. Before the guide feeding

1 thing about guides is the back and forth between pages that need to take place

[worldly pewter]

usually games are overwhelming to start because of the content diversity and mechanics in them
so take ur time

[viscid swift]

and we're willing to do that

the idea is to have you read the guide and ask question on certain details if you have them

[topaz smelt]

the guides i write are pretty short and direct, you can pretty much get thru the entire game with just newbie tips and ectl for gear

[undone plover]

the guide will also give you information about other stuff that u might not ask about.

[viscid swift]

that as well

[undone plover]

if u ask what ship to research. someone will say FdG or pr4. but they might not answer also put focus on pr4. also btw u can min/max protocore. also btw this is how u get tech points. so it is good to link the guide. ofc if u still have questions I am sure ppl will love to help

[grizzled lion]

Not everyone learns the same way. That's why schools fail for some kids instead of thinking the kid is just failing. I'm more hands on if that makes sense.

[atomic abyss]

we aren't a school though

[worldly pewter]

i have started the game with pr6 on focus for 3 months so making a mistake worse than this is literally impossible

[undone plover]

it is a fair point. no need to argue imo

[viscid swift]

and we're willing to be hands-on, but we're also trying to make use of resources that have been curated specifically for this purpose to make everyone's lives easier

[atomic abyss]

and there are pros and cons to both

[grizzled lion]

@atomic abyss everything you learn is technically a school teaching. And everyday is a lessonifyou let it be

[atomic abyss]

as much as there are people here willing to help

it takes 2 hands to clap
it is difficult to help someone if they don't at least try to help themselves first

reading the guide at least enables you to ask higher order questions

[grizzled lion]

Give me the broad. Il go and figure it out. Then comebackwith questions

[atomic abyss]

rather than "what to use" it can change to "why do I use this"

[vale spindle]

the guides have the broad

[hollow quartz]

ya

[viscid swift]

precisely

[vale spindle]

the wiki has the broad

[topaz smelt]

Can't teach someone calculus if they don't know algebra

[worldly pewter]

especially when games are based around mathematics which should be the most straight forward subject if we can compare it to a school

[hollow quartz]

grinded 20k in like 8 hrs first time ever even when i was playing the game actively

[vale spindle]

hell even the game tooltips sometimes have information

[grizzled lion]

@vale spindle on different pages.

[vale spindle]

if you want one all encompassing guide on every single facet of azur lane on 1 very long page then that doesnt exist unfortunately

[atomic abyss]

and just as crucially, not everyone here may know lol

[jaunty vault]

you guys still on this?

[atomic abyss]

a lot of the folks here are parroting the guides

[novel condor]

legit yeah thought its done alrd

[vale spindle]

the closest you get is with a youtube video but then you encounter the same issue of skipping around different video sections

[atomic abyss]

i mean if that's the way you wanna do it fine, we all do have different learning methods

just don't be unhappy if people don't give you the answer you're looking for

[grizzled lion]

@atomic abyss but they also go into a detail that a guide will have a specific tab for instead of explaining at the moment of mentioning

[atomic abyss]

whether it be from a misunderstanding or otherwise

[worldly pewter]

or try to develop a new learning method

[topaz smelt]

Ppl here just gives you solutions even tho most don't know how the steps to reach said solutions

[tired condor]

why should i care if a ships affinity drops

[vale spindle]

Copy the guide text and plug it into chatgpt to give you a summary then if its too large

[atomic abyss]

their stats drop basically

[novel condor]

you get less exp when you sortie with em

[fickle scarab]

Higher affinity gives higher stats

[atomic abyss]

and yeah less exp

[soft raft]

there's often a very good reason for that
Esp if its related to something that's relatively complex to smoothly explain in a single message or a brief convo

[vale spindle]

Higher the affinity = larger stat boost (up to a cap of 6% at 100 affinity no oath)

[tired condor]

is it a permanent stat drop or is it until the affinity goes back up

[viscid swift]

well if affinity drops that means your ships are at 0 morale and if that's the case their XP gain gets cut in half, literally

[vale spindle]

until affinity comes back up

The stat boost is based on the current affinity

[tired condor]

meh im just trynnna farm drops so does it rlly matter

[grizzled lion]

@soft raft and that's why I find convos with people easier. Than guides. 🤷‍♂️.

[vale spindle]

so when affinity goes down then stat boost goes down, when it goes back up the stat boost goes back up

unfortunately we dont get paid enough to be a private tutor for a random person online

I just volunteer what little free time i have from my day to attempt to help people

If thats not enough then unfortunately i cannot help you and this conversation is over from my pov

[topaz smelt]

alo sponsored tutors when

[vale spindle]

Wish you the best of luck in your future al learning experience though

[soft raft]

And since this is a online forum, other people might come in with other questions and if there's too much activity going on, it's easy to lose track of topics, so it can be easier to give someone a guide that they can read then come back later if they have any questions

[paper mural]

When asking for help in general, you should definitely go in with a mindset of "take whatever you can get and show respect"

[vale spindle]

Yea if its just mindless drop farming dont worry about affinity the annoying part is the low morale notifications

[atomic abyss]

honestly the notifs are the bigger issue...

since it'll stop the auto farm

[vale spindle]

yeppega

[grizzled lion]

Not asking for that 🤣 just asking for no links when I ask a question. That's all. And I'm only in here every other day or several days apart. I'm usually playing this or the other games I play.

[undone plover]

for elite cats do we all just keep edelweiss and the CV cats and 🚮 the rest?

[eager mulch]

we keep good cats

[undone plover]

are there any elite BB cats tho? dont u still want the skills on the gold ones? isnt a decent gold BB cat better than all the elites?

[eager mulch]

have you, actually calculated what the skills provide

[inner delta]

the skill provide so little, it's all talent

[undone plover]

i did a while back tbh but forgot.
but also dont golds get more talents overall?
I havent seen anyone use a purple cat in a BB fleet

[vale spindle]

I am sorry that you had a bad experience with 1 singular guide (which wasn't linked clearly so i dont know which guide it was), but i can confirm to you that all my guides are up to date as of the date listed on the guide page itself

If you think all guides are untrustworthy or generalize all guides to be the same due to your one bad experience then i request you change your mindset if only for my own guide compendium

if you have specific questions about content within my guides feel free to ask here
sometimes i am dumb and mistakes happen

[fickle scarab]

[viscid swift]

speaking of which...
Sam, Graf Zeppelin is not in the medal shop so you may want to change the pin for the SR selector

Also, it's probably pertinent to mention Chapayev is farmable from the War Archives

[topaz smelt]

i made you host my stuff so you can take the blame

[undone plover]

do cats have a higher affinity for their hull skills?
is it easier to roll CV talents on bishamaru vs sth like oscar?

[fickle scarab]

D stages in 18mins?

[undone plover]

scared me with that red pixel

[topaz smelt]

cats have a predetermined starting pool but leveled talents are completely random

[remote yarrow]

Which is why cats are the true endgame

[willow iris]

this is my fleet and roster and I just pulled Alsace. Can I safely invest my resources on her? She will be my first UR

[eager mulch]

still sad I got rid of soulful warrior on my god roll bishamaru

[atomic abyss]

absolutely worth

[viscid swift]

well do you have the UR Bullins to limit break her?

[topaz smelt]

how is it a god roll if it had soul

[undone plover]

so basically if i have a takemaru with ACE i can realistically use them as a CV cat if no better options?

[jaunty vault]

soulful is uhh useless on bisha?

[vale spindle]

Fixed thanks

[eager mulch]

Kearsarge

[fickle scarab]

Someone send him the cat guide image, he can take it from there

[topaz smelt]

you surely can find something better since 2 cv talents are already better than ace

[eager mulch]

I did get better

[willow iris]

I do, I need 4 rainbow bulins right?

[viscid swift]

yes

if you have the 4 then go right ahead

[topaz smelt]

anyone else gets hard stuck on this?

[viscid swift]

tap investigate...

[atomic abyss]

it takes forever to scroll through...

besides that nah

[topaz smelt]

wheres my skip buttons

[viscid swift]

no skip button

[atomic abyss]

exactly

there aren't

[remote yarrow]

Inside your heart

[azure salmon]

What’s this cruise ship and how do I speed up the text box

[cobalt rapids]

u dont

[eager mulch]

can’t

[viscid swift]

a lot of tapping but there's gold plates and cog chips so it's worth it

[azure salmon]

GOLF PLATES SAY NO MORE

Lmao I literally just needed to scroll up like half a page. Where’s that clown gif

[topaz smelt]

i aint rich enough for golf

[mellow cape]

:0

[azure salmon]

Golf isn’t actually as expensive as people think tbh

It’s still expensive, you need a few hundred to start but I imagine many people think it costs thousands

[atomic abyss]

[topaz smelt]

golf clubs around here are 100k a year membership

[cobalt rapids]

im sure all the golfers would be interested in #off-topic

[azure salmon]

ITS AN ADMIN RUN

[atomic abyss]

there was actually a golf convo there a few hours ago so...

[azure salmon]

WHAT WHERE WHY WASNT I PINGED

[atomic abyss]

yes actually, do go to #off-topic

[azure salmon]

Sorry

[eager mulch]

[jaunty vault]

does telling others to go to a different channel when topic becomes off topic count as backseat modding

[atomic abyss]

no comment

[topaz smelt]

modaboose

[wintry obsidian]

Do Manjuu usually fix stuff when all three communities voice their complaints? About Mogador's skill in this case

[atomic abyss]

[eager mulch]

It’s not broken

[jaunty vault]

depends on how loud CN is

[viscid swift]

If CN complains loudly enough yes

[eager mulch]

It’s just bad

[topaz smelt]

its usually based on cn

[inner delta]

do i need to like make a pin about it, dev already heard this issue please wait

[eager mulch]

It’s not like you’re forced to use mogador

[atomic abyss]

all i can say is, not really something we can answer
but it has happened
maybe like once

[inner delta]

ender write smth up, im too lazy

[topaz smelt]

imagine complaining about a free bote

[cobalt rapids]

u have a precedents like anson so u can cope

[azure salmon]

It’s not a bug. It’s a feature

[mellow cape]

Did I miss the memo on moga?

[azure salmon]

I feel like if it’s feedback, they’re pretty receptive to it

[azure salmon]

The skill where she teleports behind you nothing personnel child probably

[topaz smelt]

lmk when they fix smol lusty

[atomic abyss]

i can assure you rice

[inner delta]

might be never

[atomic abyss]

yuki bugs them a lot about it

unfortunately^

[azure salmon]

What’s wrong with her?

[inner delta]

that one just stays as feature

[elfin hollow]

#notabug

[topaz smelt]

her skill gives enemies +eva rate instead of -hit rate

and in the bug report i gave them the exact line to fix and how to fix it

[wintry obsidian]

Mogador skill prevents fleet from shooting or torping on auto. They really, *really * did an oopsie this time. And on CN anniv, no less.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/1cy610e/mogador_skill_prevents_fleet_from_shooting_or/

[inner delta]

ender write stuff for mogador

[atomic abyss]

i am writing it

or typing it rather

[jaunty vault]

mogador skill issue is heard by devs
they will do something about it
or not stay tuned™️

[wintry obsidian]

Clue the oblivious in? What stuff about Mogador? The issues with her skills or the fact nobody tested her before release?

[jaunty vault]

done

[azure salmon]

[cobalt rapids]

the fact that complaining here doesnt help

[inner delta]

all the bugs and complain been discussed and gave to dev and dev already receieve it since like hours ago

[viscid swift]

just take anything else to #game-feedback or #al-general , complaining further here doesn't help anything

[azure salmon]

The DD gun is good right

[jaunty vault]

yes

[inner delta]

im just telling ender to write stuff for this so it doesn't go till tmr or the next day for the people that just known about it

[topaz smelt]

we all know this will keep repeating since no one reads pins

[wintry obsidian]

It doesn't but it doesn't have to. CN is pissed, as is JP and they are the big boys. It's not quite the Anson-level outrage but much more significant than when Unzen had some problems

[azure salmon]

They are?

[viscid swift]

#al-general

[topaz smelt]

wasnt anson suppose to be a 4/1 joke

[soft raft]

I sure hope it was

[atomic abyss]

Hi

We understand there has been some concern regarding Mogador's red skill (Cleaver of All Sin) that seems to inadvertently get her killed against stronger enemies as a result of her lunging forward and getting face torped/face shelled, and that she might have other bugs related to her unusual skill set.

That should not stop you from getting her however

Please do note that the devs are **aware **of the issue and are looking for *constructive *feedback. We would request you post such feedback or suggestions in #game-feedback
If you wish to report the bugs that she has, do check #known-bugs or list it in #bug-reports if it's not there

Thank you!

[jaunty vault]

god i pity cheeky so much
no one listens to him

[azure salmon]

Even if it’s pinned he’s gonna have to type it every few minutes

[hollow gust]

It's EN

[hallow iron]

I should buy the ur unit first in event right? Or is there something more important?

[wintry obsidian]

Nope. Everything was ready and Manjuu even made an official statement promising to redo her design. By the looks of "Anson", the art was meant for HMS sub Sunfish but got repurposed for whatever reason

[topaz smelt]

ppl stopped listening since he changed his name back to en

[azure salmon]

Mogador, aside from bugs is pretty good and easily obtainable if you play the event

[jaunty vault]

mogador doesnt exactly compete with other resources for currency

[atomic abyss]

free UR, so take it once you get the vouchers from missions

[hallow iron]

Wait don't we need to change point into the ticket to get UR?

[viscid swift]

No, check the pins

[atomic abyss]

you will need that for the 2nd copy if you want that

[jaunty vault]

theres other sources for UR vouchers
#gameplay-help message

[atomic abyss]

oh right d maps are open for like the last 5 mins

[hallow iron]

Oo I didn't notice that, let me check thanks for the info

[azure salmon]

The new gun is pretty good from what people have been saying so you might want to save for it

[atomic abyss]

im busy with star rail ok sorry...

[hallow iron]

Sorry but which pin should I check

I'm new and very noob ngl

[azure salmon]

You can complete missions to get the ur vouchers

[azure salmon]

You get some for using skill books twice, for example

[keen sable]

the firstsecond one...

[undone plover]

u can also check in-game in the event tab

[atomic abyss]

...wait is that D1 enemy a sub
no right?

[azure salmon]

Say it ain’t so not the subbbbb