gameplay-help

[jaunty vault]

im out, have fun

[south sequoia]

Data is still being processed

[plain saffron]

also yes for now

[hard mesa]

[eager mulch]

I’m out too see y’all in the morning

[atomic abyss]

Her second skill wants her to use french gear...

[blissful hamlet]

has alsace be translated?

[atomic abyss]

Alsace has buggy translation

[blissful hamlet]

[south sequoia]

Ur dd gun is france

[sullen creek]

So she is bad 😔

[south sequoia]

So no problem there

[dry zenith]

Isn't the UR gun hers?

[eternal moth]

It looks like the LB3 description carries over to the skill textbox

[whole crypt]

her second skill says when secondary gun or french vanguard hits, not using french gear

[atomic abyss]

Wait what secondary gun

[soft raft]

The event gun is her own gun lol

[whole crypt]

wait mogs or alsace

[dull zealot]

brennus desc?

[atomic abyss]

I'm talking about Mogs

Wait I feel like I've missed a page here

[wind hazel]

[atomic abyss]

There's a UR DD gun in the shop?

[south sequoia]

Yep

[fair phoenix]

Yes

[south sequoia]

Only cn and jp mention it in their notes

[atomic abyss]

Ahhh
So rainbow baguettes

[south sequoia]

En neglected to mention it

[viscid swift]

as usual

[dry zenith]

Shoot many baguettes

[atomic abyss]

But hmm

[eternal moth]

155 FP, 130% eff, mgm+1, half AOA, already looking decent

[atomic abyss]

Aye

Tho I think the real question is

Would the DDGs prefer that gun

[viscid swift]

could always just use a 57mm to proc it

[dry zenith]

Lol. I honestly haven't found a time to use the ddgs yet

[eternal moth]

Oh shit, she also buffs CVs

[whole crypt]

just don't use ddgs

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I was thinking about that too

[south sequoia]

Al or mog?

[atomic abyss]

Or if you're piss poor
The single 138

[dry zenith]

Alsace does

[atomic abyss]

Why...

[eternal moth]

Mog's first skill "The damage of submarine and aviation torpedoes increased by 6%"

[dry zenith]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

O ya?

[dry zenith]

I saw something on Alsace that said aviation too I thought, 3rd skill?

[viscid swift]

with Colorado retro looks like we finally have a permanent replacement for Pennsylvania

[atomic abyss]

Kazagumo threatened already?

[eternal moth]

No, it's only 6%, which won't replace ARA

[south sequoia]

Pennsylvania? Is colorado that accessible early on?

[atomic abyss]

But it'll likely stack with ara

[viscid swift]

and she's not IJN

[atomic abyss]

Guild shop j think?

[viscid swift]

she's in the guild shop, like a day 3 purchase cause Unicorn and Helena come first

[atomic abyss]

Its more of raise colo
But don't retro her yet

[dry zenith]

Still need the stuff for retrofit. Idk how hard that is these days for a newbie

[keen sable]

you can't open unicorn, colorado, helena on minute 15

[atomic abyss]

Depending on her S2
She might be better than Nelson kai

[wind hazel]

[atomic abyss]

Sorry could you elaborate

[hushed dawn]

Datamine out yet?

[eternal moth]

Looks like Alsace could possibly replace Vanguard? Since she buffs enemy damage taken

[south sequoia]

No

[hushed dawn]

[viscid swift]

colorado's skills post retro

When the main gun fires, there is a 40.0% (70.0%) probability of launching a round of exclusive barrage Lv in a straight line in front of you.1(Lv.10) (according to
According to the skill level); When other members of the main fleet are damaged and the durability is less than 50%, an additional round of exclusive barrage will be triggered, each game
The battle can only be triggered once
Undiscovered glory
a
Transformation acquisition
At the beginning of the battle, the self-shelling and air defense attributes increased by 4.5% (12.0%); there are other battleships in the team, and the self-shelling and air defense attributes increased by 4.5% (12.0%).
The medium attribute is increased by an additional 4.5% (12.0%); when other battlefield characters in the team are damaged in battle and their durability is less than 40%, the damage is increased by an additional 4.5% (12.0%).
Generate a shield that can offset its own maximum durability value by 5.0% (15.0%), while increasing its ground strike attribute by 1.0% (10.0%)

[keen sable]

start game on a thursday or sunday on the server with medal cv + bb

[keen sable]

you can only buy two elites. so which of three to buy

[south sequoia]

Ah sad, no 100% big 7 like weevee

[atomic abyss]

70%
EWWWW

Unfortunately
By the looks of S2
She wants to be with other BBs

[plain saffron]

man alsace makes all text ingame more confusing

[viscid swift]

yeah but can't always expect newbies to pick the server with the blessed medal shop line up
and a 4 day or so wait is nothing in the grand scheme of things

[sinful elk]

Her first skill sound like west virgina kai

[atomic abyss]

Because they're sisters

[sinful elk]

[south sequoia]

Well you know the devs
With each ur bb release their text gets consecutively longer and longer

[strong tartan]

datamine translated? or waiting still

[atomic abyss]

Waiting

[south sequoia]

Waiting

[viscid swift]

still being worked on

[eternal moth]

I have no idea what Al's second skill does

[eager mulch]

Weevee is also 70% no?

[strong tartan]

okay

[south sequoia]

Yeah

[atomic abyss]

Country roads is 70% yeah

[eager mulch]

Country roads?

[atomic abyss]

West Virginiaaaaaaaaa

[sinful elk]

Unique aug make it 100%

[sweet delta]

Alsace skill 1 barrage
8 bombs in a series 0.2s between each, x 115 dmg with 20 splash, 8 spread, has falling time (second gif, multiplied by 8)
1 laser thingy bomb x 380 dmg with 34 splash, no spread, instant hit (first gif)
4 weaving bullets x 50 dmg ignores shields (first gif)

🤡 forgot to mention that all of them are 100% FP, 100% coef, 150/115/130 armor, and burn for 119 damage every 3s for 30s

[whole crypt]

Alsace's second skill basically just buffs her first skill

[eager mulch]

It’s “take me home” smh my head fake american

[plain saffron]

torp
1st wave: spread 30 * 1
2nd wave: spread 30 * 2, delay 0.2s

[atomic abyss]

I'm Asian yes

[dry zenith]

nono, shes the mountain momma

[inner delta]

[whole crypt]

bren tank CA?

[true kraken]

Hey, I need coins, what stage is best now?

[atomic abyss]

If you can do it
W14 technically

[eager mulch]

event D3

[keen sable]

12+

[dry zenith]

13-4

[atomic abyss]

Realistically tho, w12 or w13

[eager mulch]

event takes prio

[atomic abyss]

Or now, the event

[eternal moth]

I think I'll just wait until tomorrow and then check the datamine, this is too complicated for me right now

[atomic abyss]

At that point the update will be out

[true kraken]

Event? What event?

[atomic abyss]

The event starting in about maybe 12h?

[jaunty vault]

wtf yami

[slow fox]

nice water bg

[eternal moth]

Yeah, but I won't necessarily have every ship when I wake up tomorrow

[viscid swift]

given D3 won't unlock for more than 36 hours still

[eager mulch]

can’t even B1 farm

[viscid swift]

but you can farm A3

[true kraken]

Also, im been gone for a while, what fs5 Haku do?

[viscid swift]

more damage

[jaunty vault]

make her better

[atomic abyss]

Alright needa do opsi before reset
Behave or Yuki bonks you with a baguette

[true kraken]

Yuki not even lurking

[exotic wren]

bread bonking someone with another bread? erhm anybody knows how big this update is yet?

[sinful elk]

Chat is the gap between Juneau and sandy is a lot

[viscid swift]

in terms of AA power? yes

but Juneau retro is significantly cheaper

[sinful elk]

Guess i'll go for her first

[jaunty vault]

sandy is just better in everything

[atomic abyss]

Sorry I'm back with a question already

[true kraken]

Go ahead

[sinful elk]

7 gold bulins gonna be crazy

[jaunty vault]

yami will answer all your questions

[true kraken]

That's right

[sullen creek]

Nuh uh Juneau is better at pvp

[atomic abyss]

I'm done with Agir
All that's left is Marco (undeveloped) and to FS5 Haku
Shd I still stick with PR4 to get another Tenrai (halfway)
Or shd I move on and work on PR5 to D30 Ply and come back later

[viscid swift]

stick with PR4

[jaunty vault]

id move to pr5

[atomic abyss]

Ply is D22 currently

[cobalt rapids]

Id stick

[forest palm]

FS5 is pretty sizable for Haku

[jaunty vault]

ply d30 is worth more than fs5 haku

[viscid swift]

I have doubts you'll manage to dev 30 Plymouth in the month and a half left until PR7 drops

[atomic abyss]

Let's assume I don't touch PR7 period

[rapid grail]

cv is meta for pve so stick with haku for fs5
if u wanna use bb in pve then can do pr5 for ply instead

[viscid swift]

I'd still stick with PR4

[exotic wren]

.....she got utility even at non d30 anyways

[cobalt rapids]

7 could be super broken

[forest palm]

PR4 is definitely the move

[true kraken]

I think what he care is Tenrai

[rapid grail]

focus on prior season until u get at least the really good PR/DRs done

[whole crypt]

I'd stick with 4 to wrap up your current tenrai copy, then move on

assuming you're somewhere in the middle of a copy

[hollow gust]

That's easy asf

[forest palm]

Plymouth at 22 is already usable

[sullen creek]

Inferior BB user vs chad CV enjoyer

[jaunty vault]

yeah sure 😊

youre only staying in pr4 for second tenrai at this point

[cobalt kettle]

wait is event tomorrow?

i thought maintaince is usually on thursdays

[jaunty vault]

Maintenance start <t:1716274800:R> at <t:1716274800:t> and scheduled to end <t:1716303600:R> on <t:1716303600:F>

[cobalt rapids]

Depends how far is 2nd tenrai

[viscid swift]

halfway, smh ENing hard today

[cobalt rapids]

Ig it depends on pr7

[blissful hamlet]

is datamine up now?

[viscid swift]

Yeah it depends on Pr7 as well

[plain saffron]

WIP

[blissful hamlet]

[sweet delta]

🤡 forgot to mention that all of them are 100% FP, 100% coef, 150/115/130 armor, and burn for 119 damage every 3s for 30s

[true kraken]

Beside the 2 lvl125, any combination of these can go through 12-4?

[inner delta]

Gdi im going to yeet you if you ask it again

[cobalt rapids]

If mlbed and lvled yes

[whole crypt]

eh alsace preload with VG rld but no rld buff

timing is going to be awkward if boss

[viscid swift]

So where does that put her again?

[plain saffron]

preload won't affect the usual timing if that's what you talking about

[whole crypt]

around the same as Musashi?

timing wise

[viscid swift]

No I mean reload stat wise among UR bbs accounting for skills

So she's relatively slow

[plain saffron]

when was last time we get BB with store + 1

[whole crypt]

cn listed her 177, VG is 178 +20%

[jaunty vault]

PR2

[whole crypt]

only gascan but skill-based

[wet prairie]

Datamine should be up in 50 mins right

[plain saffron]

it's not actually a skill

[jaunty vault]

theres no ETA

[viscid swift]

Gascoigne Muse smh

[plain saffron]

gascan is technically the real mgm2

others are mgm1 + skill that repeat another x time

[wet prairie]

How do we already know alsace stats

[viscid swift]

Preliminary reveal

[jaunty vault]

cause they were datamined

[whole crypt]

muse is just alternate shells no +load cap

[plain saffron]

so alsace is like 3rd ship ever

[viscid swift]

Data mine isn't finished yet though

[wind hazel]

@plain saffron did they change the pics format or size or anything after recent update?

[plain saffron]

you mean for ship paitning?

or the files

[wind hazel]

yea those pngs, and event pic etc, loading screens etc

[plain saffron]

they changed it with mandatory update

upgrade unity versions

huh so new UI theme is called Mellow

[wind hazel]

[woven rain]

Some skk say goodbye this update

[plain saffron]

why

[woven rain]

phone

[jaunty vault]

goodbye

[plain saffron]

shouldn't it be last update

[atomic abyss]

^

[woven rain]

Thanks, I'll be back

After the MT

[sinful elk]

Is Sirius usable in w12 w13

[crimson glacier]

What's up my fishies

[atomic abyss]

I mean not the best but she'll certainly be fine

[atomic abyss]

Alsace is cooking

Though what exactly she's cooking is... Still up for debate

[crimson glacier]

Is there mine or what do you mean

[atomic abyss]

Translation is making her kit seem very mysterious

The mine is incomplete

[crimson glacier]

I see

[atomic abyss]

Or rather they can't interpret the results of the mine properly

[whole crypt]

cn mine I don't see anything fishy with alsace

[atomic abyss]

She looks to be a Flandre with 2 storable salvos at the very least

[whole crypt]

that's literally all it is

[atomic abyss]

I mean that excludes her skills and what not

[crimson glacier]

Flander so preload?

[south sequoia]

Datamines are conflicting with each other
We still cant even decide if ahe has mgm3 or mgm2

[atomic abyss]

Preload and MGM+2

[viscid swift]

That might at least help off set her relatively slow reload

[blissful hamlet]

Is it like gascogne?

[atomic abyss]

Some sources say she has MGM+3 even

[ember totem]

Who? Alsace? I just peeked in

[crimson glacier]

I don't believe+3

[atomic abyss]

It could be like gascogne

[south sequoia]

Ye

[atomic abyss]

But gascogne's gimmick is tied to her skill

[south sequoia]

Alsace is a problem child rn

[crimson glacier]

What about the DD

[viscid swift]

Looks relatively standard

[atomic abyss]

Looks to be prime w14 material at least

[sinful elk]

Uhh and i also has some issue with Enterprise, she does little to notice dmg and Sara even out dmg her despite having worse gears

[crimson glacier]

W14 in 2024

[atomic abyss]

130% eff MGM+1 with 155 FP

[eternal moth]

MGM+1, AOA 1/2, 130% eff, 155 FP

[atomic abyss]

Has halfed barrage
Needs french gear to proc skill

Turns out there's a UR DD gun in the shop

[ember totem]

yeah mogador gun right?

[viscid swift]

Well her skill is online level 5 for a start

[atomic abyss]

We haven't seen the barrage yet admittedly

[crimson glacier]

You have lvl 5 lucky e

[atomic abyss]

And mogs has an asw skill too wheeeeeeeeee

[blissful hamlet]

level up her skill and use better plane

[crimson glacier]

Is the DD on shop

[atomic abyss]

Yes

I feel like she's likely going to be worse than LaffII

[sinful elk]

Even she proc that she does like around 16k while Sara does 32k without witch's prank

[forest palm]

What is the caliber, and barrel count on the UR DD gun?

[strong tartan]

138.6mm double barrel

[crimson glacier]

Wasn't it like twin 138

[atomic abyss]

Laff II is an incredibly high bar

[forest palm]

[zinc prairie]

well saratoga's damage is respectable : D

[viscid swift]

Well you're using terrible planes on her and Enterprise scales with equips more than any other CV in the game

[languid solstice]

are we getting event tomorrow?

[hollow gust]

There are so much criteria, ship /skill level, timing , etc

[strong tartan]

Today

[half plover]

will there be an 8h update in 40min?

[crimson glacier]

Yes

[languid solstice]

ty

[strong tartan]

Fuck tomorrow nevermind

[sinful elk]

Poverty gears rn

[half plover]

[viscid swift]

Also level differences, reload time, etc

[atomic abyss]

I remember seeing shields in her kit
But I don't think that's going to help Mogs to be as tanky as Laff II

And she won't have the AA prowess either

The real question is whether Mogs barrage is broken enough

[plain saffron]

hope you got the strange thing D aux for this EX

[viscid swift]

Basically you equipped a ship badly and she did poorly, no surprise there

[eternal moth]

Why?

[viscid swift]

Get her worked on more before passing judgment

[wind hazel]

sound gimmick nullify boss damage?

[atomic abyss]

I feel that the odds are stacked incredibly against Mogs

So unless I'm missing something I don't think she will be as prevalent in end game content like Laff II

[sinful elk]

I dont think its lvl different though

[viscid swift]

Kinda to be expected

Let's just see what her barrages look like

[atomic abyss]

She's definitely good, just maybe not TEX worthy

[whole crypt]

gascan specifies in skill text the loading and firing cycles, alsace doesn't, being similar to flandre mechanically makes sense

[plain saffron]

some gimmick

[plain saffron]

what is this about

[atomic abyss]

Ya see

Alsace apparently can store 2 salvos

[whole jolt]

What the hell is this 10 GB update

[whole crypt]

the skill text for alsace vs gascan

[atomic abyss]

Which is reminiscent of Gascogne
The thing is
Unlike gascogne she does not have any skill separating them

[plain saffron]

gascan have parallel load, alsace doesn;t

[whole jolt]

New UR event or what?

[atomic abyss]

New UR event is this coming maint

[zinc prairie]

where do u use her boss or mob?

[nimble berry]

[strong tartan]

explanation about this is in pins in general

[sinful elk]

Both mob to both lvl them up

[south sequoia]

#al-general pins

[whole jolt]

Okaay

[nimble berry]

cann you disable EX lines?

[plain saffron]

alsace have 2 "charge" each charge fire 3 time, doesn't reload in parallel
and 1 preload

[whole jolt]

Can you Link it here? I dont see anything in pins

[strong tartan]

preload with 3 shots?

[plain saffron]

because other BB only have 1 main gun mount actually, the other 1/2 is buffs

[viscid swift]

So she's like a CV then

[atomic abyss]

Like flandre yes

[strong tartan]

okay

[nimble berry]

I miss Monarch's normal lines

[plain saffron]

except flandre preload affects timing

[zinc prairie]

that explains that : D saratoga with 2 dive bomber makes her generallly good for clearing

[eternal moth]

You need to update in play store, then update in-game

[whole crypt]

that's my point, folks are overthinking alsace because gascan, instead of just flands with +1 load cap

[atomic abyss]

... okay?
#al-general for that

The +1 load cap is just weird to have

[strong tartan]

he asked if you can disable EX lines

[nimble berry]

It's a gph question - very important for gameplay

[whole jolt]

I did it already im updating it in the game but im asking for linking the post in the pins so I can access it and read it cause I see nothing in pins

[viscid swift]

That will definitely make things interesting

[atomic abyss]

Anyways let's see how it goes in practice

[viscid swift]

Cause she won't get cucked by absolute cooldown like other BBs then

[whole crypt]

it's weird but it also does nothing for auto like all those torp and hangar caps

[eternal moth]

"The update isn’t gonna be adding 10gb+ to the size of the game so there is nothing to worry about. All it’s doing is just redownloading assets. Chances are the update will actually make your game smaller. If you are having problems with the game take a look at pins. "

[south sequoia]

If shes able to hold 2 salvos, manuel players would be happy to save the salvo for first helena proc to have 2 salvos and barrages happening

[plain saffron]

basically just normal BB, plus 1 extra charge and preload that doesn't screw the reload timing bcs no absolute cd or whatever it's called

[whole crypt]

it means you can hold the preload while next salvo loads instead of stalling

[viscid swift]

It will define affect her timings in practice Esperanto in triple BB fleets

[true kraken]

which one better?

[plain saffron]

i guess it's to give preload without fucking the timing

[whole jolt]

BRO I CANT TAKE A LOOK AT PINS! Im telling you this the while time! Im asking for someone to Link the pins here so I can read them!😭

[sweet delta]

Mogador skill 1
target priority enemy
1 bomb x 180 dmg x 100% FP x 100% coef x 100/100/100 armor with 12 splash, enemies get crack for 12s and frozen for 1.5s
after 0.5s, teleport onto a frozen enemy, freezes herself for 1s, reduce her own ram damage taken by 80%, fire a special weapon
Special weapon is 1 bullet x 180 dmg x 100% TRP x 100% coef x 80/100/130 armor with 99 pierce, 12 range. Guaranteed crit if no ally is burning.

Mogador AoA
24 bullets x 26 dmg x 100% FP x 100% coef x 115/90/55 armor with 65±5 range, 22 velocity, 1 pierce

[eternal moth]

I JUST COPIED THE PIN FOR YOU. What more do you want?

[whole jolt]

Thats all that there Is to it?

[south sequoia]

Neat pattern

[nimble berry]

Is there a datamine doc for the new event

[crimson glacier]

The fuck

[south sequoia]

Yes

[south sequoia]

Not yet

[frank pulsar]

are you on mobile? just press on the arrow button on top to open up a menu with pins

[crimson glacier]

Time to downtier izumo

[whole jolt]

Thats useless then

[south sequoia]

Translators are probably having a problem right now processing alsaces kit

[whole crypt]

the ram is what procs the torp damage buff apparently?

[whole jolt]

I am but when I click on button "Pinned" I see nothing there

[eternal moth]

There was something funky and pin didn't show up for me for a few seconds after opening

[south sequoia]

Just close and open ur dc

[nimble berry]

#al-general below the horse

[plain saffron]

not really

[whole crypt]

or is it just the "slash" thing

[south sequoia]

So you guys do not have any trouble?

[frank pulsar]

^^^^ most issues with disc mobile can be solved by closing and opening disc again

[plain saffron]

that's prob one of the easiest one

[south sequoia]

So then, how many guns does alsace have
Is it final its 3?

[ember totem]

[plain saffron]

basically this

charge is the button to fire BB guns in this context

i guess time to fully explain

[south sequoia]

Oh, if thats 3 times
Then yeah its final shes mgm+2

[plain saffron]

all normal BB have only 1 mgm
but they have a skill that act as mgm+1 or + 2

ship like gascan don't have the skill, but have 2 mgm instead
and reload in parralel

alsace ahave the skill and 2 mgm, but doesn't reload in parallel

[eternal moth]

And seems to get a bonus from french guns, so she'll be perma-champy essentially

[cobalt rapids]

what is crack, ab

[south sequoia]

Ahhh

That kind of makes sense

[exotic wren]

still don't understand it damnit

[cobalt rapids]

alsace works like a cv but shes a 3mgm bb basicly

[plain saffron]

yeah like CV

[exotic wren]

Oh

[whole crypt]

it's flandre but can hold 2 charges and won't stall

[plain saffron]

that's also why the other 2 volley doesn't have prio aim, not real gun

[exotic wren]

Yea that's easier

[sweet delta]

torpedo ammo debuff, plus an option for the check for skill 3

[eternal moth]

I'll just read this stuff in the morning, I'm too tired for this right now

[jaunty vault]

gn ham

[eternal basalt]

Flandre goes brrrr...

[whole crypt]

it's actually quite logical since additional "mounts" don't abs cd and vt stall your reload

[plain saffron]

i'll try other way
alsace can store 2 "gun" charge, reload in series, each charge fires 3 guns
a cv can store 2 CV charges, reload in series, each charge fire 9 planes or whatever

[weary scroll]

Do we get any free gems from 7th anni

[plain saffron]

we get ours on august

[wispy cosmos]

does her having 2 charges make any timing difference on auto vs if she was a normal mgm+2 bb?

[plain saffron]

the preload doesn't shift the 1st reload forward by 0.5s(?)

[south sequoia]

It sort of does? Since it kinda offsets the delay from preload

[plain saffron]

the next charge reload immideately instead of waiting the gun to be fired(on normal bb)

how to spell immedeately

[exotic wren]

Thanks for dumbing it down nagamon

[true kraken]

Should I use x2 plan on 12-4 or event stage?

[wind hazel]

immediately

[plain saffron]

[whole crypt]

yeh load time should be the only difference on auto

[slow fox]

imedietly

[plain saffron]

im die

[slow fox]

I use the x2 books on WA, for Rudders.

[inland shoal]

Who let them cook on those skills

[whole crypt]

how many rudders do you even have

[exotic wren]

considering mebot is still waiting for that damn URudder prolly a lot

[whole crypt]

I have enough prints for like 50 of them without grinding archive

[slow fox]

this many

[sharp comet]

where is the datamine

[whole crypt]

surely you wouldn't need to grind archive for that number

[soft raft]

How badly did they burn down the kitchen

[quartz wyvern]

Holy crap. Double UR update, tonight?

[slow fox]

3 Rudder -> URRudder trust

[quartz wyvern]

1 farmable, 1 banner?

[soft raft]

Shop not farmable

[strong tartan]

waiting

[cobalt rapids]

same as guam laffii

[whole crypt]

not farmable per se, just shop like laff

[exotic wren]

b-but you farm for shop

[sweet delta]

who is this?

[eternal basalt]

You can massfarm C3 but is it worth it?

[whole crypt]

kuon

[strong tartan]

Kuon

[cobalt rapids]

utaware

[plain saffron]

ouh right btw the torp not farmable

[sweet delta]

bet deleted

[strong tartan]

Utawarerumono collab or something

[silver lintel]

So my prediction was correct

[steady beacon]

Mfw the D3 drop is not Richelieu gun

[strong tartan]

so grind d1 question mark

[steady beacon]

Fake French event

[plain saffron]

well it's french, preload is kinda their faction gimmick

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Utawarerumono_Collab

[silver lintel]

Whats that gold ca gun in d1

[steady beacon]

Algerie gun

[hard mesa]

New gear stat?

[plain saffron]

the rest wait sheet

[sweet delta]

is it 5 new ships plus two METAs plus colorado?

[jaunty vault]

55 FP pog

[steady beacon]

Six new ships

[plain saffron]

1 meta

[ember totem]

does 'in series' in this case mean consecutively?

[steady beacon]

Wait... which META is even coming this time

[eternal basalt]

1 Meta, others follow later

[jaunty vault]

bearn

[steady beacon]

Ah OK

[plain saffron]

it wait 1 to done before start next

[whole crypt]

event bearn cruise foch showdown wichita

[steady beacon]

So five normal, 1 META, Colorado, got it...

[ember totem]

gotcha, so like what others have said exactly like CVs

[plain saffron]

the systems in this game is a mess

[jaunty vault]

chien come back

[plain saffron]

are 60 spread good or bad for torps

[inland shoal]

They are burning down me that's for sure

[ember totem]

i'm still playing just a lot more casual

[dusk maple]

when is little fdg supposed to be released?

[atomic abyss]

Daheck are these cursed drops

[whole crypt]

next week iirc

[forest palm]

Barracuda for future Spearfish

[eternal basalt]

She wasn't listed in next week by JP patchnotes

[atomic abyss]

At least put JB guns on D3 so we can craft Champagne guns

[whole crypt]

so it is 3+2

[weary scroll]

Ah ok how many do u know?

[plain saffron]

yes with 0.2s delay

[atomic abyss]

As badly as Mutsu did irl

[whole crypt]

I'll need to go back to stream but I think she was listed under "part 2"

[soft raft]

CN In May
EN in Aug
JP in Sept

KR and TW have their own dates but we only really care about EN, JP, and CN since those are the big 3 regions

[eternal basalt]

It's May. August is a looooong way off

[atomic abyss]

CN and JP ones tend to come with UR events

[exotic wren]

I think they're asking for how many gems...

[soft raft]

EN Anniv sadly too close to JP to have their own UR smh my head

[weary scroll]

Yea lol

[plain saffron]

700

[soft raft]

And you only get the gem reward for your region's anniv

[eternal basalt]

Hmmm, maybe it's this
・ Hold a friendship event where you can get SR ships

[eternal basalt]

EN is 6th anniversary

[exotic wren]

...600?

or 699?

[weary scroll]

Ok ty

[plain saffron]

Still 700

We get 100 extra every year following cn jp instead of the year no?

[vale spindle]

Light of the Martyrium

Links

• Datamine (5/30): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vReMgvdvsvWMMAEUQ8PpypTMb1eykQjljNMEKmRfRAt7r8pfCj0G8Q5v6mTkiK4gPpAlZfzw7QEXS0k/pubhtml

• Little Friedrich event + Foch META + misc. content.

• Datamine (5/21): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQDYIUTMP2Tdjdo0jK8_WhgUfdT_c8FA6TQLuq6mypFyDGJSupBbS-YCzDUFX9lkNRphYOxsGzCz2tj/pubhtml

• Contains ships, skills, equipment etc.

• Contains barrage information for all new ships!

• Contains shop priority and ship evaluations!

FAQ:

SSR Ship Invitation?

See pin below this one for more details.

Wishing Well? Is it worth?

TLDR not worth over building on the UR event. See pin below this one for more details.

How do I get Mogador? What are UR Vouchers?

• UR Voucher Rewards

• Mogador (copy 1) - 200 vouchers

• Mogador (copy 2) - 300 vouchers

• Subsequent Rewards: unknown...

• UR Voucher Acquisition

• Event Daily Missions - 5 vouchers/day (115 vouchers/event)

• Clear SP - 5 vouchers/clear (110 vouchers/event)

• Event Minigame Rewards - 105 vouchers/event

• Event Mission "Clear D3 with a new Event Ship" - 50 vouchers/event

• Event Mission "Clear SP" - 50 vouchers/event

• Event Shop - 500 vouchers/event

• Total: 350+ vouchers/event (Plus Event Shop)

Oil Cap?

Oil Cap is on all D stages, and is 35 mob, 47 boss, 16 sub for D3. Do /oilcap in #bot-spam for more information.

Best Stages to Farm?

D3 > D1 > C2 > B3 > highest stage.

• Make sure to do the SP stage once a day!
• D3 drops Bearn META + her crystals.

Should I pull for these ships?

Reasons you should pull for the ships, in no particular order:

• Waifu
• Collection
• Better than majority of permanent options at their hull type (only for gold/rainbow ships, check datamine for ship information).
• It's a UR event, what more do I need to say!

[sullen creek]

W

[vale spindle]

@atomic abyss @south sequoia pin please

[south sequoia]

NO

[exotic wren]

Fft

[plain saffron]

Subsequent reward are just coins

[south sequoia]

Curse you ender

[plain saffron]

Wtf toxic mods

[novel condor]

tme to do your job

[atomic abyss]

I gave you a full 10 seconds

[south sequoia]

I was in gen setting slowmode

[novel condor]

cleo slow af

[eternal basalt]

Stream ptsd

[vale spindle]

alsace is mgm+2 but with 2 mgm capacity (like gascogne but without the dual loading), and with preloaded mgm

[sullen creek]

Such incompetence

[plain saffron]

You made it more confusing

[vale spindle]

you want me to change based on the intelligence level of the people around me? fuck no

[plain saffron]

Wtf sam toxic

😔

[vale spindle]

i am always EN friendly, if i am not EN friendly thats a you problem unfortunately

[novel condor]

can make it more friendly?

[south sequoia]

Is it so hard to say alsace works like a cv with her capacity

[rose whale]

so I'm going to wish for perseus in the well, which banner should I focus on?think this is my 2nd wishing well, not familiar with the mechanic

[sweet delta]

say she works like a torpedo boat

[plain saffron]

Don't let me start on torps

[atomic abyss]

I mean
Focus on the UR banner, not wishing well

Especially if your name is "coob population in danger"

[novel condor]

why would u go for the wishing well? legit UR banner round the corner

[rose whale]

yeah but for when after I get the UR?

[south sequoia]

Oh wait the debuff on alsaces skill, its for everyone and not just her own right?

[cobalt rapids]

she works like a torpedo boat

[atomic abyss]

Save for more URs

[novel condor]

me with 500ish coobs

[plain saffron]

is this good enough

[atomic abyss]

Or if you seriously have an excess I'd argue it's more worth to throw more rolls into the UR banner

[novel condor]

we getting round like what 4 new URS per year now? correct me if im wrong ty

[plain saffron]

change 2 to 3

[whole crypt]

yeh that's it

[rose whale]

oh... but I want perseus cuz healer

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn says hi

[novel condor]

isnt UNicorn better than persues esp after retro?

[plain saffron]

so like emden noted

[rose whale]

I do have her but isn't another would be great for w15?

[atomic abyss]

There is literally 0 reason to use Perseus at this point outside of waifu

If you run 2 healers, the other healer is Volga or Aquila, not Perseus

[novel condor]

I still use her|| sometimes||

[regal wasp]

chapter 14, perseus is better

[plain saffron]

ouh right torp gif, i guess

[atomic abyss]

Because running uni+Percy together is actively detrimental

You throw out 3 preloaded airstrikes at the same time. guarantee you nothing much will hit

[whole crypt]

perseus is definitely not better for 14

[novel condor]

either u use percy + Volga/Aquila else or Uni + Volga/Aquila, putting em in 1 mob fleet together is just bad

[exotic wren]

if it's a boss, everything will hit

[wary robin]

do we know how good Alsace's barrage?

[regal wasp]

i prefered it because unicorn only heal in only first strike. u do want esp when you are doing 3 stars. but both are just there. none of them is better than each other

[rose whale]

so no need for one healer per fleet? cuz I was trying to follow this #gameplay-help message

[sweet delta]

she's there for crossfleet heal

[whole crypt]

unicorn heals on every launch, it's just mainfleet that's not every launch, in which case you can bring aquila/volga

you also want to just minimize mainfleet damage than have to heal through it

[fossil shard]

I don’t have Volga or Aquila. Will I be able to get either from the wishing well?

[atomic abyss]

Nope

[novel condor]

nope

[whole crypt]

which perseus is shit at because of low dps

[strong tartan]

Alsace 1%?

[atomic abyss]

How often do you get bosses that spawn in immediately tho

Ex mode and challenge mode
And meta

[exotic wren]

my cursed meta fights

[cobalt rapids]

did they lower UR rate or is it a typo

[whole crypt]

typo I guess

[atomic abyss]

You don't bring healers to fight bosses anyways
Usually

[sweet delta]

oh well i dont want to clean this up, and no gif because i didn't implement point hit. tldr it's just normal big seven plus two bombs
BIG SEVEN·科罗拉多
targeting TargetNil, 66150 is a MAIN_CANNON
156 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
22 bullets of: bullet_19929 is a CANNON with Normal ammo, 100/80/70% armor, 150±5 range, 5.5 velocity. Has acceleration [{"flip": false, "t": 0, "u": -0.035, "v": 0}, {"flip": true, "t": 1, "u": 0.06, "v": 0.02}].
22 bullets of: bullet_19929 is a CANNON with Normal ammo, 100/80/70% armor, 150±5 range, 5.5 velocity. Has acceleration [{"flip": false, "t": 0, "u": -0.035, "v": 0}, {"flip": true, "t": 1, "u": 0.06, "v": 0.02}].
barrage exposes by 10 units

targeting TargetHarmRandomByWeight, 164500 is a POINT_HIT_AND_LOCK
100 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
2 bullets of: bullet_164491 is a BOMB with Normal ammo, 70/100/90% armor, 16 diameter, 20x20 spread, 120±7 range, 15 velocity. {"diveFilter": [2], "gravity": -0.05}.

[strong tartan]

I'm assuming Brennus is a typo too

[exotic wren]

...what is this god language

[plain saffron]

did suchiguma shared pattern for equips yet?

[whole crypt]

jp notes say 1.2 alsace

[novel condor]

datamined stats

[atomic abyss]

Uh what

[plain saffron]

wtf tis that patern

[regal wasp]

@atomic abyss main fleet just in case u are not clear.

[tame jungle]

Oh so the 3+2 is just funny quint

[strong tartan]

I feel dense what does MGE stand for

[whole crypt]

confetti

[cobalt rapids]

main gun eff

[tame jungle]

Main gun efficiency

[slow fox]

Metal Gear: Evangelion

[strong tartan]

oh efficiency nevermind

[novel condor]

confetti gun barrrage

[tame jungle]

Has anyone run the dps calc on mogador gun yet

[wet prairie]

what dis mean

[plain saffron]

Read notes at bottom

[whole crypt]

can store 2 loads like airstrikes

[wet prairie]

oooh neat

[whole crypt]

i.e. does basically nothing on auto unless 0.5s bothers you

[wet prairie]

oooh zombie skill, shes gonna be lit for mobbing

[plain saffron]

But in cm where timing shift

Just need another 2 ships like her

[whole crypt]

I won't count too much on that heal for now

[opal stream]

hi chat

[regal wasp]

Do we know alsace barrage yet?

[jaunty vault]

no

[wet prairie]

so boilers gonna be useful?

[plain saffron]

Bye

[wet prairie]

how does this differ from regular ASW zone

[jaunty vault]

#gameplay-help message

[tame jungle]

She already 51 speed so i don’t even think it matters

[opaque galleon]

I mean you probably just use the mog gun

[regal wasp]

@jaunty vault thank you

[jaunty vault]

it scans the entire battlefield

[tame jungle]

Oh alsace barrage seems to be aimed?

[hard mesa]

Its same sub reveal like other skills with same effect

[opal stream]

imagine not having aimed barrage in 2024

[tame jungle]

Thanks for your input

[opal stream]

so they added avi torp for torp buffing just for mogador?

[fresh gale]

Has UR gacha rate always been 1% ? I thought it was 1.2% in the past

[cobalt rapids]

its a sweep that reveals all for a limited time unlike the vang circle that reveals only within circle but perma

[sleek spade]

It is 1.2% tho?

[jaunty vault]

it has always been 1.2%

[novel condor]

prob some error

[plain saffron]

It's like odin, not vanguard asw

[fresh gale]

Oh ok. then the google sheet needs to be changed

[jaunty vault]

@plain saffron

[south sequoia]

Oh, so kinda useless

[wet prairie]

never used odin so it doesnt help

[sleek spade]

maybe google sheets guy made mistake...

[plain saffron]

Wait actually go ask thorin, I'm not responsible for misinfo

[south sequoia]

@inland shoal

Ello there coworker

Can you explain how the reveal works

[novel condor]

[sleek spade]

Alsace looks like mobber from 2nd skill...

[inland shoal]

?

[opal stream]

should work like odin

[inland shoal]

Reveal?

[tame jungle]

Is alsace 1 or 1.2%

[inland shoal]

Oh yeah it just reveals subs, like Odin and the others we got

[south sequoia]

This thingy right here

[hard mesa]

Reveal sub outside range?

[south sequoia]

Ah, so it is useless

[jaunty vault]

yes

[plain saffron]

Blame google for rounding it

[wet prairie]

wahh why ping

[opal stream]

i mean it just there for asw planes i guess

[south sequoia]

Oh, not entirely useless then

[novel condor]

[jaunty vault]

[dull zealot]

how usable is Brennus

[novel condor]

smh cleo

[jaunty vault]

stay tuned™️

[novel condor]

we dunno yet

[dull zealot]

oof

[inland shoal]

Cleo changing her opinion like a spinning top its orientation

[south sequoia]

Wait if I'm reading this correctly, alsace has the potential to heal 15% of a ships hp?

[inland shoal]

Alsace's heal has me confused

[wet prairie]

tf is this? a two wave torp?

[opal stream]

im still wondering why mogador torp buff also buff avi torp

[tame jungle]

DDVs coming

[jaunty vault]

#gameplay-help message

[inland shoal]

It buffs torpedo ammo, not torpedo bullets or torpedo stat scaling dmg

[opal stream]

has that happened before?

[inland shoal]

Don't think so

[jaunty vault]

DDG vanguard

[frank pulsar]

so is vanguard powercrept by alsace?

[hard mesa]

Only for plane torp buff? Does barrage plane torp counts?

[jaunty vault]

all torps

[opal stream]

so its a straight 8% multi without any diminish?

[south sequoia]

I guess its easier to just directly buff the torpedos themselves than trying to awkwardly squeeze in an avi buff on her kit

[jaunty vault]

yes

[inland shoal]

Umm...I think so yeah

[wet prairie]

whats this (chinese isnt good enough to make it out)

[jaunty vault]

wait till its updated then

[exotic wren]

Isn't that the UR voucher, nvm

[south sequoia]

@jaunty vault Can you re-link alsaces barrage from suchi?

[jaunty vault]

#gameplay-help message

[inland shoal]

Actually lemme search

[south sequoia]

Ah wait thats only skill 1, is there another for her heal barrage?

[inland shoal]

Yep, 0 results found in all older skills

Alsace's heal barrage is a joke

And it's planes, idk if Suchi does planes

[opal stream]

okay so dev knows how to use more multipliers now
holy powercreep coming

[vale spindle]

Wishing Well (5/21/24)

Notes:

1. Event banner has higher priority than Wishing Well, since Events are time-limited and Wishing Well ships are permanent.

2. Picking Light construction ships is preferred since you can build on it for your daily build for free. If you are missing ships from Special/Heavy (notably Submarines), it is fine to pick them.

• Be careful about cube spending!

3. You can select a permanent UR ship (New Jersey, Shinano); if you select a UR ship, the other UR ship is removed from the build pool entirely. UR build rate remains 1.2% like normal.

• They can be selected for either Heavy or Special.

4. Picking permanent UR ships isn't worth it since they have pity. Better off picking other ships and building pity for permanent UR ships instead.

5. All Wishing Well builds count for UR exchange points at the usual rate.

6. If you already have all the ships listed below, pick ships for collection.

Best Ships to Pick:

Light:

• Kazagumo - Great CV buffer with good damage alongside it.
• Aurora - Great support option against DD / CL bosses.
• Avrora - Great vanguard damage buffer. Has unique augment.
• Yat Sen - Post-retrofit, she is very tanky and has decent damage when used alongside 1+ CN ships.

Heavy:

There is nothing worth here. Only pick this if you need ships from collection.

Special:

Submarines:

• Archerfish - Top SS in the game. Provides buffs to other USS SS.
• U-96* - Top SS when with other KMS SS. Provides buffs to other KMS SS.
• U-81 - Top SS in the game.
• U-47 - Top SS in the game.
• Nautilus - Great SS option to use alongside Archerfish in USS compositions.

If you already have good SS:

• Graf Zeppelin** - Good mobbing-oriented CV with KMS support. Mainly for tech points.

*These ships are in permanent shops.
**These ships are in the Early Summer 2024 Invitation.

[exotic wren]

cleo is happi now

[inland shoal]

I mean it's only new for torps really, for he and ap there's plenty

[sweet delta]

i dont think sushi does planes

[south sequoia]

Oh

[south sequoia]

Lets just hope the planes have a good hit rate in practice

[wet prairie]

oooh new BiS DD gun?

[vale spindle]

oh right fuck archerfish is permanent now one second

[frank pulsar]

i was about to ask if new dd gun was rainbow but nvm

[sweet delta]

50% more aoa wont save 100 kai from having 30 lower FP and such a huge damage difference

[south sequoia]

Alsace has a nice all battle long debuff but the requirement to activate it with a french ship is a bit sus, she doesn't have any secondary gun extend so

[frank pulsar]

does new dd gun beat 135 on med?

[exotic wren]

Just use her with brest

[sleek spade]

isn't the new DD gun pretty good?

[jaunty vault]

its UR so yes

[opal stream]

seems like mogador best aux is a FE

[jaunty vault]

whats a FE

[inland shoal]

It's a bomb carpet

[frank pulsar]

fire extinguisher

[tame jungle]

Ok so mogador gun is crazy

[south sequoia]

Oh wow that is a huge damage diff from med

5k total higher

[sleek spade]

that's a lotta dmg!

but should it stay on Mogador or should it be on someone else? like Laffii

[sweet delta]

if you use both then mogador

[sleek spade]

mmm ok

[vale spindle]

mogador has not 1 but 2 instances where she fires additional main gun shots

[sleek spade]

yea that's quite nice

[vale spindle]

therefore higher damage main gun is higher priority on her compared to everyone else

[frank pulsar]

is there cn magic on mogador dps?

[vale spindle]

since you want your highest damage main gun on the ship that fires their main gun the most in a battle

[inland shoal]

So 24 bombs total in 4 rows, and you wanna hit 5 of those...good luck ig

[south sequoia]

Is alsaces mark random?

Or prioritizes humanoid

[sleek spade]

then if Alsace and Mogador is in battle in a BB fleet, do you really need Helena for dmg debuff?

[jaunty vault]

why not

more damage is more damage

[hard mesa]

[sleek spade]

because I can slot ply and dont have to worry about sync...

[frank pulsar]

depends on the fight imho
some people hate helena rng

[sweet delta]

prioritizes a random highest priority humanoid

[jaunty vault]

yeah well

[sleek spade]

yea that's me lol

[jaunty vault]

that doesn't really change anything form what was before

if you dont wanna deal with helena rng, dont use helena

[novel condor]

does the debuff stack tho

[jaunty vault]

why wouldn't it

[novel condor]

idk thats y im asking

[jaunty vault]

only same skills do not stack

so yes helena debuff stacks with any other debuff

[novel condor]

ty goober

[elfin hollow]

What does the MG load Capacity +1 on Alsace mean? Is it like Gascogne where she can fire her MG twice separately?

[jaunty vault]

read the notes in datamine below the skills

[inland shoal]

Can you tell me what happens with active Fury and no judgement_ava?

[sweet delta]

you face furious judgment

[south sequoia]

Do datamines usually also have pvp data?

How does alsaces mark work in pvp? Random? Or does it have priority

[inland shoal]

Wdym by pvp data

Alsace has nothing special for pvp

[south sequoia]

Ah

That most likely means its random targetting in pvp

[inland shoal]

If I understand this all correctly Alsace s1 is a bit strange, without Fury the debuff is prio aimed, with Fury it is random

Fury being 12 s2 stacks reached

[regal wasp]

didnt s2 specficially state it will seek out the one that doesnt have debuff

[opal stream]

sounds about right
but if the debuff runs out before she reapply it with fury
it is random when she has fury

[inland shoal]

Well yeah, but the first time there won't be anyone with the debuff

[winter condor]

is just me or mogador is like laffey 2 or even a bit better?

worth then i missed laffy but not this one

[regal wasp]

fair enough, that fury random has potential to grieve

[jaunty vault]

stay tuned™️

[opal stream]

for example the current meta
there are 5 summons so if you are unlucky it can take 6 procs to aim at the boss

[winter condor]

the problem is i try to get alsace or no

[cobalt rapids]

you should

[winter condor]

ok gonna try then i have 230 ish cubes

[cobalt rapids]

do we have the ship techs

[opal stream]

CN does

[plain saffron]

Why do they release so many new mechanics in 1 update

[winter condor]

new things = more players or more money spend

[opal stream]

flexing their new unity version ofc

[winter condor]

i mean for me is ok good to have more variety

we went from azur lane to an rpg

[sweet delta]

this case doesn't happen

[south sequoia]

Does cn have magic numbers for mogador yet

[autumn sluice]

hey idk if I'm doing the math right but does Colorado have Ur level FP state with both of her buffs active?

[opal stream]

TLDR:
alsace +1 FP
bearn meta +1 AVI
bren +1 FP on obtain
the rest 120 tech are EVA
the rest obtain tech are HP

[plain saffron]

What is ammo type 4 again?

[sweet delta]

this case does happen, but it only happens when there are no enemies or when all enemies have already been judged. The barrage will still fire but it doesn't judge an enemy because there's no enemy to judge.

[jaunty vault]

SAP?

[inland shoal]

Idk why they made a special case for that but ok, maybe their random thing is unhappy if it gets an empty list

[inland shoal]

torpedo

[plain saffron]

I see

[inland shoal]

sap is ammo type 7

[plain saffron]

Who use the nee record shield

[inland shoal]

Mogador

It's her s2 stuff

[plain saffron]

Does that one ship use newer sonar?

[inland shoal]

Eh what is newer sonar?

[plain saffron]

Need to re read, ormaybe that's sub type not sonar type

[patent pivot]

got barrage datas for alsa?

[inland shoal]

Go do the plane barrage pls

[plain saffron]

Ouh they rewrite a bit of weapon coding

[inland shoal]

[patent pivot]

im gonna lose it

[plain saffron]

Idk if logic changed or judt renaming

[patent pivot]

rewrite #4 yayyyyyyy

[plain saffron]

Not just 1, multiple files

[patent pivot]

ill try to run em, just send ids

[plain saffron]

I lose it at var_31

[inland shoal]

Skill id is 150043

[plain saffron]

Ok so now they change deduct to initial deduct, that have diff logic ish

[patent pivot]

uh nag sharecfgdata/weapon_property.json doesnt exist in your repo?

[plain saffron]

It should exist, pull new version

[patent pivot]

yeah my tool just doesnt like your repo

[sweet merlin]

Why is the maint on a Tuesday

[plain saffron]

idk ask them

[inland shoal]

Cuz CN anni sth sth

[steady beacon]

Reasons ™️

[plain saffron]

what's wrong specifically

[sweet merlin]

They do not sync the updates between the 2 servers ?

[plain saffron]

wdym

[atomic abyss]

All servers are having maint today

[plain saffron]

we also getting it rn

[atomic abyss]

The reason why they're having maint today is because of the major event that happens to coincide with CN anni

[sweet delta]

all 114% armor mods i said today are actually 115% someone rounded down instead of near

[still gate]

I am not at home rn. Well will maintenence end?

[plain saffron]

glad to know i'm not the only one

[tame jungle]

In like 7h

Assuming it doesn’t get fucked up like CN seems to be

[steady beacon]

Question: Since Alsace can store a salvo, does she jam herself by a lower value than other BBs would?

[plain saffron]

CN extension?

[still gate]

Longer than usually

[tame jungle]

Ye i think so

[plain saffron]

should be 0 jam

like cv

[sweet delta]

should be same jam as cv which is nonzero

[plain saffron]

other than anim time of cource

[steady beacon]

Arigatou gozaimasu

[sweet merlin]

Forgot the maths.floor

[tame jungle]

What is jam

[plain saffron]

what jam does cv have

[vale spindle]

What ship should I get from the Early Summer Invitation 2024?

1. If you are missing multiple ships from this list, choose waifu, or someone who fills a role that you are lacking. Here is a description of all the ships, for reference:

• Amagi* - Good flagship damage-oriented BB, with good support as well. Can be a sidegrade / downgrade to other easily accessible options.
• Chapayev*- Great damage-oriented CL who increases Vanguard damage output. Has unique augment.
• Graf Zeppelin - Good mobbing-oriented CV with KMS support. but can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options. Mainly for tech points.
• Illustrious* - Support-oriented CV with decent damage. Has unique augment.
• Prinz Heinrich - Great tank-oriented CA with damage and bulk.
• Tashkent - Good damage-oriented DD, but can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options.
• Tosa* - Good off-flag damage-oriented BB, but can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options.

*These ships are available in the Medal Shop / War Archives / other Permanent locations, so they have lower priority compared to other options available from a collection point-of-view.

2. If you are missing one of the ships in the ticket, just pick the chosen one.

3. If you have all of the ships above, pick the ship who isn't at max limit break in your dock. That saves a bulin to limit break.

4. If you have all of the ships above at max limit break, either spend it on a ship you already have to save bulins, or save the ticket in your depot for a rainy day, your choice.

made by samheart564

[sweet delta]

up to 1/30

[vale spindle]

@inland shoal pin plz

[plain saffron]

sam stop breaking my convo smh

[cobalt rapids]

blocked rld

[tame jungle]

2023?

[sweet delta]

why so many empty lines

[sweet merlin]

Will the urs drop today?

[steady beacon]

Yes

[vale spindle]

fixed thanks

[steady beacon]

Well, depending on when "today" is for you

[inland shoal]

jummy stuff you put on bread

[steady beacon]

It could be "tomorrow" depending on your timezone and if we get extended maint

[sweet merlin]

I mean after maint

9 hers right?

[tame jungle]

Alsace Sandwich 🤤

[patent pivot]

just changed my auth system and its good now

[vale spindle]

@south sequoia can you pin arrange such that the event pin is first, then the invitation/well are after it thanks

[sweet delta]

8 not 16

[cobalt rapids]

expected to end in 6hrs 40min

[patent pivot]

who is this for?

[inland shoal]

Alsace s3

[sweet merlin]

Time to fire up wuwa while waiting

[south sequoia]

Got it

[wild elbow]

I got the Prinz Heinreich

[wild elbow]

what guns should I use tho.....

[vale spindle]

triple 283mm cruiser gun from kms tech box

[patent pivot]

aslace has an s3 barrage?

[south sequoia]

@vale spindle Is it okay now?

[inland shoal]

So also multiplied by 8?

[patent pivot]

thought it was just s1/improved s1

[wild elbow]

low caliber but ok

[vale spindle]

ye but maybe put invitation last

[south sequoia]

alright hold on

[autumn sluice]

question how do %Stat buffs stack?

[sweet delta]

is it 8 or is it 16

[cobalt rapids]

shinano is not a good pick imo

[wild elbow]

But which one, the higher tier 283s?

[vale spindle]

purple rarity triple 283, the one you can equip on her
theres 2 versions, one that can be equipped by her and one that can't

obviously you want the one that can be equipped by her

[fickle scarab]

Alsace looking good

[south sequoia]

Okay this is odd, when I repin these messages it puts them back in their original spots

[patent pivot]

also im not seeing skill 150043 in the newest files

[vale spindle]

currently its in the right order

[south sequoia]

Huh, mobile problem I guess

[patent pivot]

it is a skill id not a weap ID right @inland shoal?

[frank pulsar]

depends on the type of buff iirc
some stack additively, some stack multiplicatively and some dont stack

[autumn sluice]

Ok thx

[vale spindle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations welcome to azur lane maths happy to have you on board

[frank pulsar]

i pray for their sanity

[vale spindle]

tldr all buffs that affect the same thing stack additively

[jaunty vault]

im not happy to be on board

[patent pivot]

barrage is just weap 489 so ill run that

[south sequoia]

Oh by the way, hows alsaces damage

Comparable to soyuz/zwei?

[jaunty vault]

stay tuned™️

[fickle scarab]

It fires in waves?

[south sequoia]

Even by magic numbers

[plain saffron]

2 + 3 yes

[jaunty vault]

you dont wanna know magic numbers

[plain saffron]

cooper link the gifs

[fickle scarab]

And I thought my tea torp will get replaced

[south sequoia]

I partake in black magic 🧙‍♀️

[cobalt rapids]

@vale spindle both nj and shinano shouldnt be picked
you are trading rates up from non guaranteed ships for guaranteed drops on pity which accumulate over time
irespective if u pick for collection or getting additional ships for strengthening your dock
but if you pull for collection and shinano/nj is the only one missing then its valid but that applies to every other ship so I dont get the special mention
if you are pulling to strengthen your dock then you are most likely hurting it by picking either
also UR rate is only shared between shinano and nj so the value of picking either of em is very low compared to the shared rate of the other rarity ships below
all in all i just feel like the pin might bait ppl into wwing smthing they shouldnt

[fickle scarab]

Alsace 5 salvo setups and 100% uptime on debuff, barrage numbers out yet?

[jaunty vault]

#gameplay-help message

[jaunty vault]

#gameplay-help message

[fickle scarab]

Yea I think Alsace has a fighting chance

[slow fox]

I'm picking Shinano

[still gate]

So maintenance will take half a day?

[jaunty vault]

do not O me

[fickle scarab]

Musashi no longer top 3 when soyuz release?
Wasn't here back then

[jaunty vault]

Maintenance scheduled to end <t:1716303600:R> at <t:1716303600:t>

[south sequoia]

Huh, musashi is still in top 3

[jaunty vault]

depends™️

[fickle scarab]

I surely haven't used soyuz yet she just lv125 in a corner

[jaunty vault]

my discord broke twice today 😭😕

[plain saffron]

at least you didn't get locked out from gph

[inland shoal]

Pretty sure it's 8 bombs and the thing that allows for 16 is in case you saved both main guns and trigger them right after another

[jaunty vault]

id very much love that

[hard mesa]

Does alsace bomb(?) focused on target?

[novel condor]

He should be locked in gph 4ever

[fickle scarab]

French gun on ship hit enemy or French ship main gun hit enemy?

[sweet delta]

it's just whether adding the buff for the first time triggers onStack

[fickle scarab]

Oh the ship, so realistically this will never proc ig

[jaunty vault]

@sweet delta hi

[regal wasp]

only if you have brest or magador in your bossing vanagurd

[sweet delta]

everything is aimed

[regal wasp]

eitherwise perma uptime is not feasible

[inland shoal]

I don't think so but now that you ask I'm not that sure anymore

[jaunty vault]

i assume everything does not include skill3?

[inland shoal]

Especially cuz of the heal that only has onStack as trigger

[sweet delta]

im sure devs wouldnt put it as 16 to a beyond broken ship, so it should be 8 to make her a broken ship

[fickle scarab]

Magador barrage numbers?

[jaunty vault]

#gameplay-help message

[inland shoal]

The plane is aimed
But it's a bomb carpet as I said earlier

[jaunty vault]

aimed bombs when

[inland shoal]

Most planes aim bombs

[hard mesa]

[jaunty vault]

fair enough

[regal wasp]

will it be wide enough for bombs to hit 5 time? i assume it would

[jaunty vault]

#gameplay-help message

[inland shoal]

Honestly Alsace healing skill still confuses me much

[fickle scarab]

It's whatever

[regal wasp]

isnt it just one of ship dip below 30% barrage planes come and drop like 20+ bombs then if 5 hit they heal maximum amount

[fickle scarab]

Thx
you keep those on the clipboard or something

[inland shoal]

That's what the description says at least

[sweet delta]

the code seems to say not what description says

[regal wasp]

Also please god 8% crit buff included to barrages since code is scuffed

[elfin hollow]

are skins from 2023 summer (bisko2 event) reruning or?

[patent pivot]

i had to fuck with it a bit to run, thats my guess as to why the aimings bad

get the gist though

[inland shoal]

If I understand the heal correctly it triggers only when Alsace drops below 30%

[slow fox]

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[inland shoal]

Why would it aim, it's a bomb carpet

[patent pivot]

it still has to aim for certain spots

[inland shoal]

That's true

[patent pivot]

i would have assumed they were just normal bombs but its showing up like arcing shells

[inland shoal]

Well bombs and arcing shells are the same thing

[scenic birch]

Is alsace good ?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[autumn sluice]

I think the data mine updated seem pretty clear "If any ship falls below 30% HP in Alsace's fleet"

[fickle scarab]

Guaranteed to be very good, not guaranteed to be best

[sweet delta]

the code seem pretty clear that's not what happens

[regal wasp]

healing barrage?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[inland shoal]

Yeah and the code seems pretty clear that devs probably made a mistake cuz the skill is coded in a completely senseless way

[steady beacon]

You mean there's code in AL that's sensible?

[autumn sluice]

ah so the text is wrong

[jaunty vault]

im sensible

[inland shoal]

Well better than this
She adds a buff to everyone
This buff then checks for everyone else in the fleet that is Alsace to see if their hp is below 30% and if it is trigger a skill for that ship that is Alsace

Normal skills are just if self hp < 30%, trigger barrage

[regal wasp]

I want to clarify something, does non "fury" barrage of alsace target random or prefer elite since it doesnt mention. cuz i know Fury barrage prefer non-marked enemies.

[inland shoal]

Prefers elites

[crimson glacier]

i dont see a reason why it wouldnt follow normal targetting

[sweet delta]

@plain saffron theres a new update did any code change? i know some chibi art got updated

[regal wasp]

@inland shoal thank you

[crimson glacier]

mohg looks weird

[plain saffron]

6 files changed

[crimson glacier]

i assume theres like no chance that mohg prefers eva over hp?

[sweet delta]

so no relevant logic

[regal wasp]

Just use UR torp aug and torp-hp aug

[crimson glacier]

sounds like shit

[plain saffron]

pushed to repo

[vale spindle]

@slow fox

[sweet delta]

~~would anyone like to complain to sam in #wiki-feedback ~~

[vale spindle]

changed btw forgot to ping u

[crimson glacier]

the DD gun looks insane, am i missing something

[fickle scarab]

It is insane, modagor is nice ig, I'm more interested in alsace

[elfin hollow]

is it gonna be better than the UR gun from the gear lab though

[sweet delta]

alsace is nice ig, I'm more interested in alsace crossfleet

[fickle scarab]

Probably

[crimson glacier]

depends on aoa

gear lab is much more spammy

[fickle scarab]

That much is true

[elfin hollow]

that's true yeah, also 55fp is nice

[vale spindle]

do you have full barrage number information

thorin busy or lazy

[sweet delta]

@vale spindle make thorin unlazy to determine if it's 8 or 16

[sweet merlin]

Where is the source code found?

Almost thought i went into a programming server

[sweet delta]

Oh you mean this I forgot @vale spindle

[undone plover]

Was there any info about the mk7?

[sweet delta]

#cn-7th-anniversary-livestream-discussion

[undone plover]

I meant the cost

[sweet delta]

Ask in a week or four whenever it gets added

[undone plover]

Should rerun with event and with black friday in Nov.
Also when event goes to archive they become perma as well

[inland shoal]

It's 8

I have convinced myself that onStack does not trigger on first time

This also explains why Alsace has that one heal stack outside the barrage

Also means the barrage can only heal 4 times at most tho

[scenic birch]

Guys does anyone have any ideas on when will the musashi rerun happen

[atomic abyss]

[inland shoal]

In the future

[wet prairie]

early next year most likely but even then its guessing

[blissful hamlet]

alsace any good? does she powercreep vanguard?

[patent pivot]

is this 8 the plane one?

[inland shoal]

No

[regal wasp]

@blissful hamlet she is good and no she does not powercreep VG

[blissful hamlet]

then I don't see her replacing anyone in my fleet

[inland shoal]

It's her skill 1, id is 150021

[crimson glacier]

are we sure she doesnt beat vanguard

[blissful hamlet]

gph said so

[crimson glacier]

ok so what

[silver lintel]

Since alsace can store 2 salvo, her preload doesnt change her timing at all right

[inland shoal]

As usual I'll wait for actual tests to say anything

[regal wasp]

even if she does beat VG, it will be by like margin. cuz her barrages are funky af

[blissful hamlet]

do you think she can replace vanguard? the buff is less than vanguard but I assume her personal damage makes up for it