#gameplay-help
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you gotta get all the steps/nodes
If you don't have enough to max out the board you should prioritize getting the modernization, but ideally you do want to get every node.
Ok, thx. & yea I probably won't be able to this early on
is the best way to get t3 retro prints just working around the highest hardmode node I have unlocked
yes and 3* rewards
that and 3 starring hard nodes yes
also check the guild shop for any that pop up on occasion
Yes, but just remember that different stages drop specific ship type prints. x-4 is carrier, for example.
x-1 is DD, X-2 is cruiser, and X-3 is BB
ah. what's the recommended retrofit priority for a starter fleet?
Uni -> Port -> Starter
endless c1
Are yellow Seafangs any good cause I have like 15 but don’t have the heart to get rid of any 
2x 500lb bomb fighters
In lieu or shortage of 2x 1000lb bomb fighters, they are perfectly usable
In excess of 2x 1000lb bomb fighters, they are still good for fleet power 
do they give the same fleetpowa
What
hi, how many Wyvern do I need? Is it better than spearfish?
you need 0 wyverns
Wyverns are pretty helpful when you get to the plane-hell worlds. You don't strictly need them, but every bit of extra intercept is good.
oh, then what's the typical torpedo bomber to use for my Volga? I'm about to try clear W13 Hard
umm lol, so guess I'll craft a wyvern, especially since W13 is plane heavy..?
but you don’t need any of them
i like spearfishes more than wyverns but they’re expensive
Agir and Anchorage are great tanks right?
i can afford one, guess i'll craft spearfish then, thanks
Now my next question is how are they great tanks
Is this a good plane loadout for Zep
as far as yellow planes go for her number 3 spot I only have Barracudas. The 2 1600lb bombs seem really good on the destroyer or am I wrong
btd destroyers are ass
Ok that’s good I’m working on agir and then after Anchorage I think my fleet is lacking tanks
And heavy hitter
Why are they ass? Is it cause they only have 2 bombs
bomb hit rate
So should I use a barracuda
BTD Destroyer is a good example of higher rarity doesn't mean better
That fighter plane is situationally good against medium armor When AA is not a concern
is flapjack the best fighter plane? like the go to for all cv's fighter slot? other than bf109g for light?
hvar for light, bfg for medium, fw-190 for heavy when concealment is maintained, flapjack for all other intents and purposes
why do you like spearfish more than wyvern

because if wyvern intercept is the difference between winning and losing then it’s honestly a skill issue 

your first and second and perhaps third UR gearlab TB should be wyverns
cant help it if you already crafted spearfish tho, its a really good plane
I like aoe in my mobs more then rocket
aoe?
Those torps from wyvern clears mob better
how
more damage,yes
more aoe? no
aoe?
still dunno how or when to use my spearfish
how to not be poor on plates
opsi 
I have one maxed
Spears are just better in every way
buy wasp with 1000 core data or farm from archive?

why tho
CV RLD Tech
depends on if you feel like you have enough core data to spare or enough time to spare
frankly i'd just wait for her to spook on builds
Wasp cant be constructed

11 days of W13 hard 
getting close to 1k core data, but in war archive is it fine farming like a3 node, or would the rng be better on other node(that drops wasp) ?
do you have full sets of core data gear?
we have no clue about drop rates but like there's little reason to farm A3 over like D2 or D1 unless you're unable to clear those two yet
i dont know what full sets of core data mean, image of it? I have bough gear with core dat abefore.
3x shells, 3x sub gear, 3x beacons, 1 vh, 2-3 missiles, 2-3 s4g
something like that at minimum
Wasp drops from d1 and d2 of fallen wings anyway
I would do soyuz. Sounds like you could use a great backliner
i lack 1 beacon. Is missiles the sy-1? I have one of that+(the btter version of it). What is s4g? Sub gear i have like snorkel, purple pressure, and oxy
yup Sy-1 is the missile
S4G is seal of the 4 gods
Seal of the four gods
ok i lack o atleast one for an shan, atleast,
If you can't do hard mode in ex war archives you shouldn't be doing war archives
i can do it
do u run 3 cruisers with boss fleets?
there are like 3 different vanguard hulltypes with the word "Cruiser" in them
And hulltype doesnt specify role, it's always on a ship-to-ship basis that fits the content you're doing
oh then the 3 tanky ish ones
You certainly dont need 3 main line tanks for boss
That's not how it works
whats the difference between mob fleets and boss fleets then and what do i run for each
mob fleet fights everything that's not the boss
Boss fleet fights the boss
As for what to run, instead of asking rather abstract questions, post your dock in a thread and specify what content you're doing so we can gve you proper help
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide i was trying to copy this and i saw they put 3 tanks for their boss fleet so i was wondering if i need to do that for bosses thats all, but u r saying not to
That is semi outdated
its fine outside of the starter fleet
how has no one made an updated guide to it yet?
Just returned to the game after 5 years of no playing and I have forgotten everything. Can someone point me towards a way of relearning most features.
I mean there's sam's guide https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips most generally reccomend nowadays
dunno go tickle the ECTL guys or something, that's prob somewhere deep in their bucket list
wdym starter fleet, is that the main story or?
ye i wrote that
the guide I just linked is good
oh ok should i use this then
Alrighty thank you, I'll give it a read. Any tips off hand you would give me aside form the guide?
Alrighty ty.
but the site in general has tons of helpful guides
I mean it should be helpful I don't even remember what oil is for. XD
all i really see from here is complaints about how bad the ectl guide is but no one is able to make something better?
and also the update project is dead, everyone quit
Damn that's crazy
I know cheeky's been working on a guide of his own but it's prob not like the ECTL's stage-by-stage one
otherwise I think it's just that not everyone has the time to do it
my guide is a guide to 100% collection rate, it's not a progression guide
so play 2 years?
Hindenburg is tank than Agir ?
hah, if only it were that simple...
or fast
3 or 4 easily
Are you sure ?
Also since I'm retuning should I just join any odd level 10 guild or no?
level doesnt matter, most important is activity
she's not as tanky as Agir, kinda squishy for a UR CA/CB afaik
Yes we're sure
Ok
Hindenburg is less tanky than portland iirc
Nah two years to hit the rerun cycle and anything you're missing at that point is either due to complete unavailability or lack of trying
it scrapped together newbie tips in like 2 days
There no information on top tier for Hindenburg On background
shes just dps
There are reruns that take 4 years... lil San Diego when I was new...
if you mean the description on ECTL, alot of ships dont have them or have updated ones and there's no expected timeframe for any updates to them
I see
And yeah Hindenbur's basically stonks DPS CA
ye we need more writers
I mean is there really a need for such a guide anymore at this point. Between your newbie tips and Sam's fleet building guide that basically takes you to W12 or so pretty easily which is the important bit.
so shinano-chan is top tier?
the issue has been exposure to guides rather than content lately
top tier for a chibi ship
Which kinda means jack shit in the long term
doesnt help when idiots try to discredit useful guides
how does she compare to non-chibi ships
Not stellar
she's the top end of elite CVs, that's pretty much it
a good option for new players who got her
ye shes usable
Just wait when she grows up
Who should I choose? mainz or chapayev?
They're both pretty good
Depends on the content you're trying to do and what you need for your comp
Yeah that's fine
Just keep in mind though that she doesnt have any ASW capability (She is the only CL to not have that ability) if you're gonna do something like 14/15-3 and 14/15-4
OK, thx
Should I even try to improve this
starting talents be soulful, artillery ace (FP), and chief of staff... just missing out on i guess something like destiny ig
Soul+flame is like the minimum you want
do we level all the skills of the characters we use or just their best one?
all skills of ships u use except port
what do i do for portland?
u leave em at lv1
all of them?
yea
why? i thought she was good?
shes good, her skills suck
she is for a new player, but one skill will never be used and the other is whatever
well not suck but one is pair req which u shouldnt use and the other one is rly low value
ok makes sense
theres other skills like nachi and myoukou draw fire that kills em faster when grinding but if u use em ure prob tech farming so it doesnt matter
hi, i'm using the below comp with +10 sextuple aa guns on vanguard for 13-1 hard, however still getting wrekt by planes in boss fight, anything else i can do to improve?
better fighters?
How do I get exp data packs?
using lv 100+ ships
using flapjack on implacable, and bf109 on enterprise, switch for another flapjack for enterprise fighters?
do subs count too for academy?
anything else you can think of? boss is still like x20 before i die, even vanguard also getting wrekt, my acv is higher than 4370 should be good there
using underlvled unzen doesnt help
could easily be either more AA or more survivability
got it thanks, how about isuzu to replace unzen?
rather lvl ur actually good ships
i do have some ships leveled to 120, any suggestion?
i dont know ur dock, if u want open a thread and post ur stuff
is drop rarity affected by clear rank? I'm farming for new orleans, do I have to get an S on the boss node for a chance to drop?
s rank guarantees a ship drop yes
not getting S has a chance for no ship drop
use guam as main tank and try to max the AA on ur vanguard 
i have no idea how to sync, would like to if there's a link to learn
Just checking because syncing is actually a terrible idea
in short, trial and error different planes/gear and get all the ships to shoot at about the same time
ok thanks
How do I get T1/T2 data packs?
Lmao your back again
Who should I get from the training. Hood or illustrious?
well what else do you have for ships?
And are BBs currently avaliable in your medal shop?
little enterprise has both CV and BB this month iirc
@soft raft no. Sr cv
using non mlb ships 
Fell for the newb trap
@eager mulch MLB others to replace some others 🤷♂️
?
what training ?
Pulling for NJ/Shinano
he already has hood 
At top of home screen. There is a little red tab. Has missions to finish.
anything that u don't have
@soft raft had them for a little while now 🤷♂️. NJ I got in reg building
is there anyone else leveling up ships to lvl 70 for mlb at 12-1 or am I the only one crazy enough to do it lmao
yeah that's exactly what ricest means
Pulling heavy/special for either NJ or Shinano is a bad use of cubes
Especially now when there's a new UR most certainly coming next week
if the can cash spark there is no issues right 
get an enterprise dupe from the rookie missions, you're in desperate need of more gold bullins
newbies sure as hell wont have enough for pity and even if they did, that would be infinetly more better used on new gacha URs
@soft raft had them for a while. I'll still pull the new one as well. So not worried 🤷♂️
Is there anything specific I should be aiming for from gear lab? Assuming I have nothing from it already
wyvern
/gearlab depends on your needs but these are generally what people craft
is shina/enty/ark royal good enough for opsi cv fleet?
please tell me at least all the limit breaks on them thus far have been with dupes
Thanks, didn't know that was a command
Something like 1-2 wyvs, 2 457s, an assortments of planes
@viscid swift thay would be a lie tho
sigh, don't do that in future
Why you should never partially limit break a UR ship in Azur Lane.
What I said about concentrating on getting one ship max limit broken at a time goes doubly so for UR ships the time to get enough Bullins can be a few months. However, one common mistake players make is partially limit breaking a UR, don’t do this. The issue mainly comes down to how time-gated UR Bullins are, by doing this process you will very likely run into the conundrum of being halfway through limit breaking one UR when another, better UR releases. If you choose to continue limit-breaking the ship you started on then that pushes back the use of the newer UR by quite some time but if you choose to make a start on the newer UR immediately you’re left with 2 partially limit-broken URs which as I said earlier is not ideal in the slightest and doesn’t benefit you in any particular way at great cost in terms of bullins. Holding onto your Bullins until you can max limit break a UR in one go gives you much greater flexibility in who you limit break and you can avoid the conundrum mentioned earlier.
didn't georgia gun fell from high priority of the past
?
says who
i m seeing my own progression as a point of view
Bruh
what
huh
well i will wait for pilica for some hints since u aren't even bothered to explain anything holy
what an attitude
that's because we have no idea what this supposed to mean
Well first can you tell us how exacly you came to that conclusion?
You cant just say some out of pocket shit and expect us to understand crystal clear
you said “fell from high priority” and provided no proof or explanation
its still the best mobbing gun in the game
and 14 and 15 are mobbing worlds
and its still good as a singleton
457 is still the best use of T3 Ord afaik 
for someone who doesn't have any equipment from the gear lab
getting wyverns after that getting georgia gun based on this conversation sounded not the optimal routing ( since i also held off from crafting any until now ) 
#gameplay-help message
ideally you get 1 from gear lab and 1 from protocore somehow, then some spearfish/other planes
just wait till they put out tenrai 
me with 4 Tenrai, and only really using 2 in most cases
im at 6 tenrais only use 2
in the context of looking for an AP BB gun against bossing in OpSi it is low priority
because the champaign gun is better and cheaper at it
the 457 though has other uses and esepcially in Campaign it does shine even if it is expensive
Question, have you guys put down musashi to mob duties in opsi with soyuz release? 
for OpSi yes
musashi got benched
i did
triple CV mob gang rise up
yeah
Before I benched her to cross fleet for the Aquila/IndepKai/UniKai strat
Why use Aquila , nj stronger
I use saratoga kai, indep kai, and uni kai
honestley I keep forgetting NJ exists half the time
Musashi enhanced is more than just 3->6 lightning right
i still prefer sashi
Musashi has no crossfleet 
she does tho
It doesn't buff my CV damage 🚮
Then your CVs suck 
? Isn't that only a corssfleet barrage?
id rather shit be dead than wait for a strike
are juneaus skills important if I want to raise her?
Why wouldnt they be
it's just a matter if they are high prio or if I should focus my main ships first haha
I only got 2 academy slots and not that many books
well if you dont have any plans to use her anytime soon, she can be benched for a while
fancy seeing you here abdou
all ships need a total of four bulins or copies to mlb right
Correct
yes
oh okay good, that means I only need four bulins for a UR then
is there an updated beginners guide? played a long time ago and i think all i know are outdated and old acc is gone
sry mate can't help u here as i do in gbf 
its fine im basically starting from scratch again in azur lane 
i also lost my arknight account althought it was linked to yostar
it kept giving me a verification code and then ingame it tells me that my address isn't registered 
Feel free to ask any questions you may have, also contact yostar if you remember anything about the account
They might be able to recover it depending on what you can remember
Your UID and any applicable receipts for in-game purchaes in particular
is this a decent lineup? dont mind levels. also im probably not gonna use fleet 4 at all but i might as well build it
CV fleet has no stop
Tosa prob isnt exactly fit for boss fleet and Monarch is currently competing with Musashi for Flag position (And also hard whiffing half of her barrage)
Slap whatever cross fleet abilities you have in the 4th fleet if you have any
should open a thread and show dock
i mostly got tosa for cross fleet. i dont think ill use fleet 4 until i get better ships
5 or 10% debuff, same as in-fleet
Should I upgrade this?
upgrade it in gear lab, if possible
you can but it's not a priority, AA guns take electronics which usually go to planes first
So I can buy 4 bulins and I can claim the pass one, I need 3 for laffey but I also wanna do unzen, but also the new one is coming.
I'll probably end up doing 3 for laffey, but is unzen a bad option to do too? And is the next one gonna be good?
we have no idea, so you should save
we know nothing about the new UR yet besides that it's gonna be a new UR so you should save
should i put formidable instead of joffre?
I have 50 military grade electronic rn should i just save it then?
do you have Ark Royal?
yes
50 isn't a lot that's like 2 gold planes
yeah just save
you can get STAAGs from research seasons anyways, I've never bothed to obtain STAAGs via gear lab
I mean, If I do 3 for laffey I still have 2 and I can get a 3rd from the event point stuff, so that would leave me with the task to get 2 UR or just get the stuff to buy another bulin
Use her instead then
Technically formidable has a stop but it's so inconsistent that you're better off using Ark's slow
Got it, thanks
alright, thanks
Is there a way to get the gold ordnance report faster tho?
you could just wait to see if the new UR has higher prioirty than Laffey, you need 7 between her and the new UR and that 7th one shouldn't take too long into next month to get anyway
grind grind grind baby
plus at this point though while not likely a double UR event is a distinct possibility
it's not like Laffey II is anything special if you're not fighting anything that spikes her like 14/15 
And what about unzen, is she any good?
haku is already good without fs5?
yes, one of the top 3 highest damage vangaurds in the game
high DPS CA, good yes but again, wait for new UR
yes
As long as she's D30 yes
Does she work as a tank or only like a dmg dealer?
she has less eHP than Portland so

Portland just has surprisingly high eHP for a low rarity ship, that's all
Unzen's isn't like glass cannon bad
why does ark royal have an aa stat? she can't even equip aa
so she doesnt get oneshot by planes crashing into her
AA is used in incoming AVI damage calcs, all carriers have AA regardless of AA slot
there are also other ships that have no AA gun slot that have AA stat
ohhh
i changed the submarine ship order and suddenly now they refuse to automatically get called in the fight and i had to manually tap their button
did i change something without noticing ?
oh 
yeah it seems like it changed automatically to standby
i m 100% that i didn't touch it 
if it still fails you have to manually turn auto call on, meaning turning auto search off
once that's done though you're basically good to go
i changed it to auto call now then i went to change the formation again and went back it didn't change to standby
this is a little bit weird but i think i know what to do at least now when i see them not getting called in the fights 
Just to make it clear you want this to be on
finished pr4 research catchup, do i do pr2 for fdg now
or stay at pr4 until i get avp or whoever else i need
i can dev quite a few ships now but not the germans yet
develop fdp and coin her
research pr4. do fdg and coin her
idk about exp but you can click on their affection on your dock and it will show the buff
you'll see something like this
this is oath+200 affinity
12% 
1.12x more stats which is very 🤏
yeah it only affects the base stats not with gear 
even then it's still sizable enough from a min/max perspective, but on a general level you won't notice the extra .06x stats from oath
The oath only becomes notable due to the reload stats, and thats only sometimes
oathing for cv sync 
that's an all or nothing type deal right there 
Oath one cv and you have to break your back trying to fix sync
Is Marco better at mobbing or boss? Or can she just do whatever
having trouble deciding which of my fleets she should flag in 
she'll fit in well into mob 
im trying to lethal 3* 15-3 and i get down to the last mob and 2nd boss with 0 ammo on subs and mob fleet. my boss fleet wasn't able to clear the last mob fleet but I know it can clear the 2nd boss. is there any way i can rearrange my fighting order to clear? im using the /98 team with u556 meta, flasher, leo on the w15 command only missing +13 auxes and 100mm on laffey
do you have any Ju-87ds
I don't even have german planes
a few Ju-87ds first then
Why though?
one of the 3 best converging TBs, you'll likely be using a few on your CVs for bossing
I can afford ryusei though
Isnt it the best?
Ju-87ds and Ryuuseis are timing sidegrades

Technically Ju-87d is slightly better due to having a different release pattern
whichever one fits your timing needs the best is best
Ryusei is slightly more damage if everything connects, though
Who died and what type of enemy mob was it? Did you put cats?
Where is the best squad that I can safely put my Laffey II here?
(Maybe it is time for the Thighs Queen Duo to have their retirement?)
you don't exactly need Laffey 2 but please use Kazagumo in fleet 4
also use Laffey 2 or Kronshtadt in place of Ryza or Rikka in the mob fleet
she's an ARA(buffs the damage of your carriers by 15%) that's also IJN to proc Shinano's buffs for IJN CVs
and while you're at it Sirius in place of San Diego
He? Oh ok...
35%+ buff to the CVs
Random but is this about Soyuz?
im assuming sirius
do stat buffs scale off base stats or do stats from auxes get considered as well
Is the +3% dmg for opsi only?
yes
Siren only and in op siren only
<insert image from the tutorial here>
Kazagumo being the third ijn
Makes sense

where i can get those planes, can't craft even the purple
Iron Blood techboxes
When Nep collab return? >_>;
who knows, probably never at this point given it's been 6 years
seriously? ugh..
Hyperniche franchise + absolute dogshit units, wouldnt be surprised if that gets passed over basically everytime
We've only had two collab reruns and they've both kinda been flops in terms of profits so who knows if they'll ever do another collab rerun
I wanna use the 3 dragon sisters in a fleet for general mobclear (up to W13 tier content ig), are there any main fleet ships I should look at that work well with them? I have basically every ship in the game. Could just slap a bunch of URs but wondering if theres any ships that have interesting interactions with them or something.
dragon sisters?
the DDGs?
That'd be quite the squishy vanguard
Uhhh ping ning and yat
oh the china wall
Yeah them. I used them way back but havent touched them since like the release of W13
China wall has become a bit less of a meme now that Yat Sen's retrofit lets her get her tank bonus from being with other DE ships
but I wouldnt really reccomend it for late campaign progression
Unicorn
I have no idea what general mob clear is but if you're farming content where the comp is largely irrelevant just run ships that need XP/levels
Ive already 3*d everything in the story, just mean for general use in like events or something. Coin farming w13 and such.
Collabs don't have a regular rerun schedule so yeah
In the case of nep, don't get ya hopes up
None of the super old collabs have rerun
oh ._.
Me still coping with no goldburn 💀
Yat-sen, sandy, and one hai is one of the best chapter 15 mob vanguards, so of course they will work for chapter 13 with unicorn and anyone. But I would rather put ships who need exp if just farming easy content like 13
Welp, figured as much. Was mainly wondering if there were any main fleet ships that did stuff with dragon empire vanguards that I was overlooking but ig not. Sometimes I really wish there was more variety to what you could run for some of the content in this game.
there's like Hua Chang ig who requires a DE ship but that's kinda it outside of DE ships being buffed by Chang Chun
RIP, well thanks anyways guys 👍
TBF, most of them are kinda off the table anyway
Hololive because well CN
Kizuna Ai is on indefinite Haitus
and Utawerrmmmo never even made it to EN
Kizuna Ai is likely never happening again
Yep
Utaware could happen again
is there any ship that can change or covering brest role at w15 fleet?
didn't fully build brest
Anchorage indirectly
aight, thanks
Am i missing alot if i cant clear Hard Harbinger?
Does it have UR design plans?
If it didm, he wouldnt have said "Not much" because UR design plans are relatively huge for how little you get per month
after 25% you're not missing much at all
so if you absolutely can't kill just aim for 25%
Got it to like 38%
Me when no rainbow ordinance: 
is what it is, go cry in #game-feedback
I can put about 100 blueprints into either fdg or agir, any recommendations
agir, FDG is coinable
if you're talking about the DR Blanks, use those on the highest season it goes up to
FdG is coinable anywyas
that too
Ahh okay
Is it possible to retire PR/DR ships? If so, what happens if you do?
Can anyone explain me next event? The said that only Rodney, Queen Elizabeth, Helena, Kimberly, and Hatakaze can be used in certain event stages or what?
Not possible
So they take up permanent dock space?
CTA is Call To Arms
Which is basically a 1 week "Prep Phase" before a major event releases
the CTA event itself gives a few select ships bonus XP on sortie and then during the event itself, said ships qualify for missions to contribute points towards the event's chat frame
yeah
That's annoying
I mean you grinded for them lol idk what you expected
Why not have them not count since you can't get rid of them
So using those ships mentioned will give extra rewards in event stages?
you should've expected them to not be retirable
how to use oil fast I cant claim rewards that has oil inside
buy dorm food
is the ur event on 17th or 21st?
The US wants to know your location
livestream 17th
No
They only have a bonus to their individual XP gain, they do not affect event rewards otherwise
event should be next Thursday
alright, thanks
So they just give extra xp to some random ships and it has nothing to do with event right?
So how does Bismarck zwei work in OS, does she support alll the fleets?
the lineup vaugely gives clues related to factions and/or individual ships involved in the event story but you can go speculate on that in #al-lore
if you mean her cross fleet effect, it's simple as it does its thing in any fleet that Bismarck Zwei herself is not in
/crossfleet for more info
Yea that’s what I meant, that’s pretty neat, I assume that also works the same way for all cross fleet effects?
Yes
Another question. People in this channel who are 24/7 online. What do you do for living?
normal things
I stopped becoming online as often due to having a life so it eventually claims us all dont worry
Got dido u and tallinn are they any good?
No, maybe depending on your roster
I don't do anything when i was online
In General, I heard people say Soyuz is trash and then someone replied with Hidenburg is trash
which of their opinion is true, META wise
neither
The hell were they smoking because that is very far from the truth
general hates ships whilst factoring in appearance, va, and/or artists
we don't do that here and neither do majority of the prominent tierlists / resources
I mean trusting general to give you sound advice isn't exactly recommended
hmmm... noted
I wasn't being serious lol
Soyuz is very good don't take advice from people in general
oh ok noted
I shut them up so dw 
holy sh
Datamine 5/16
Enigmata D: purple aux, 500 HP, plays a sound effect every 10 seconds
(End Datamine)
Too op
The fu-
They couldn't even make it 550
pain...
Would a prototype triple 203/55 be better on Unzen or Drake?
Or should I not even bother with drake.
drake doesn't want prototype triple 203/55
On ECTL it does say it works with her ammo changing skill and is an option
shrug I'll probably just craft a twin 234 then. She won't replace Unzen in my main team anytime soon.
I thought of the wrong gun, then drake does want Unzen gun and Unzen gun is the best gun for drake but Unzen is just superior to drake as a ship
Any info on the new aux from the coming event?
.
pin pls
Yeah, the only fact that Unzen gets more mileage than drake is why I'm a little torn.
Then again, drake might be perma benched when I finally have Hindenburg at dev30 so not that keen on splitting hairs that much over it now
Hindenburg is a strict upgrade to Drake. Unzen is a strict upgrade to Drake. You rarely want to use two dps CAs at once. Hence, Unzen benches Drek.
I still use Drake, that's mostly because I don't like changing gear 
How many bulins do i need to fully lb a UR ship
4 or fewer if you get dupes
4, always 4
Okay!
play azur
But people here say Hindenburg is the highest damage vanguard in the game so she's a strict upgrade to Unzen 
Argument void because she has less than 120% eHP
: (
people are wrong
Also Hindy has no cf 
: )
Cate Fimulation
Out of curiosity, what is the highest damage vanguard with >120% eHP? 
Why are you asking me about something that does not concern eHP
I'm going to cry
brand destroyed
smh fake gpt cant analyze damage numbers
Ngl, has it ever been uh
Considered
Expanding into that realm
Since all the DPS charts one can find usually has some flaw to them
someone should make eDPS
with all charts, its only consistent to 1 specific content
Geometric hitrate is huge problem with that. I can probably get really good numbers on total output, but total output means almost nothing without context like "how does the enemy move" or "how far are they away."
just assume they dont move 
Also assume 200 units away?
assuming ramming for maximum dps
Kron, Guam, Anchorage, Voroshilov, Otto, Laffey II, Felix, Jervis, Chinawall(?????)
Tallinn?
Felix 
I just listed 120+ ships, don't quote me.
Anchorage 
dps doesnt have much value to how this game works anyways
That is indeed true
does this mean eugen good?

Eugen muse good
not even 120% noob ship
i said dps doesnt have value not doing damage doesnt have value
I thought she would be higher lol
soon
:god:
you mean agir and little agir?
would little agir be better than eugen 
Little Agir probably 98%

I'll let you know how she does
Temporal hit rate too tbh
Is shinano good? My only UR
if you can afford to build her yes
Got ambushed by maintenance. Sad 😭 need my last little grind for event ship
if shes mlb yes
one of the best cvs at max limit break
If it's Spee, you still have until the 20th
with kron i get good dmg even after the changes on my fleet even mainz stays behind
about hindy if u have agir hyndi Emden yes is the strongest dps vanguard ONLY if u have them well equiped / maxed
(agir doesn't do too much dmg tho is more hyndi emden thing)
Yeah trying to get it out of the way asap so I can get back to focusing on Portland retrofit
I mean yeah Mainz shouldn't be doing that much
I'm very much counting it
thats normal
Generally updates before a "big" event are 8h
Small updates (dead weeks and most preludes) are 6h
This time, it's a "mandatory" update, so 8
Small indie company
#game-news read the patch notes
also we are going to have now the base files for the 3d stuff
depends if they do same thing as CN or not
in CN it was in APK but deleted on ingame download
is the game still under maintenance?
because it says there is a new update but there isnt 
clear play store cache
Yep, in theory for another uh
4 and a half hours
Game is under maintenance, refer to #game-news
google play store still shit even with all the money
ty
app store > google play sry for abusing this channel for random talk during maintenance
Come on man
I just got here. Nvm
It’s ok
Oh I thought the new UR was coming. Nvm. I'll wait for next week
It’s like weekly dude
wait for app store to release the update first
Store update should be live now, just look up Azur Lane and update from there. After that there’s probably also download in game
I thought we had one this Monday?
Its not, i guess it will be up after full maintenance
no 7 days ago is not monday
i know i'm late but
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aJgVACHclYR5eE9CmjOkDsdgwNoQ-v037h8qmau9mz8/edit?usp=sharing
Equip
奇怪装置「D」Weird Equipment "D"
叮叮叮 — 咚咚咚 — 哐哐哐 — 哒哒哒 — 哔哔哔 — 啪啪啪 —
dingdingding dongdongdong bangbangbang dangdangdang beepbeepbeep plaplaplap
Stats at:,"+10","+11"
HP,500,530
OPS Damage Boost ,1%
Skill:,奇怪装置「D」
战斗中会周期性发出音效的奇怪装置
WIll emits weirdge noise periodically during battle(every 10 se...
what did the fox say vibes
Weird D equipment 
dingdingding bangbangbang wtf
@inner delta 
Imagine devs added troll files to troll dataminers
what is the other event this patch?
double pin for same datamine lesgoo

They removed turt one
thorin did you open and read the spreadsheet
long island skin i guess
ouh so that's the other story
or devs being fans of that song which came out like 10 years ago? Dang i feel old
nvm its im the embed too
wtf 
that doesn't look appropriate
its a literal translation from chinese yes
if you have any complain bring it to devs
I can hear it
maybe best just edit to papapa, i can already hear the memes writing itself
what broke the devs 
how to play
the whale
Get updated get updated get updated!
step 1) wait until maintenance is done
What the fuck is that?
Idk if "weird equipment" is rly better than "enigmatic"
in before someone launches gaem and causes extended maint
Chess or literally any board game variant tutorial?
let me see if NGA has anything to say about this...
uhh complain to the TLer
Kinda sad that it just seems to be another toolbox sidegrade lol
yeah ,see
the memes
devs have gone insane
Would be funny if that item is shaped like - uh nevermind
anything sounds like that to that type of people(me)
A fish!
ouh no img, it's an orca plushie
fish.png

do we have the sound file?
how does that sound like this
does that matter
thorin what are you typing
understood, engaging the target
this is the aux
cute
o right forgot, thorin if anyone start memeing you have permission to take people ability to chat fully until maint is done (this include extension) including "let me in"
he wants to know if it sounds like the meme
Is the game down or smth? LDPlayer's being weird
Does the soundwaves from the orca actually do anything or is it just some sort of semi-music aux
It's under maintenance
its in maintenance
Ah, that explains it. Thanks.
in japanese it is strange or weird 
what did the fox orca say
so a worse toolbox that transmits signals
I'd probably say eccentric 
am chinese, can confirm qi guai means odd/strange
well by looking at the name alone I'd probably translate it as strange device D 
Is it supposed to get stuck here after updating? I can't even get to the normal "under maintenance" screen
wait for the 13gb to go live
is 13GB an apple thing, both my phone and bluestacks only did 10.7
i think they always overshoot the amount a little bit 
they said 2 GB for the apk and it is 1,39 for me
fruit client is actually bigger than android
my phone's client update was 1.1G, didn't check how much it asked for on emu
it was always like that for all game i think?
Huh, sounds like a sonar ping 👀
Interesting...
it is 10.7 for me too 
but they also gave me something before it that has around 1 GB about live 2D and coma stuff
consistency 
yeh you can check whether to download the assets together and not do it after you enter the game
at least Anchorage's snowglobe had visual feedback the D thing's sound doesn't do anything for me on mute
i should have done that since my net is snail speed and probably will be pinched around reset time
you should have unchecked them, but that's just saving 1GB of download you'll need to do later 
1 GB is 15 min
does the pity on event banner carry? 
Nope
oh, so it's either 400 or nothing?
isn't this an SR banner and not UR
?
there isn't any banner
banner is next week and should be UR
are they really moving things to a Tuesday schedule 
oh so it's a new patch with new event but the new banner is coming later? interesting
there should be another maint before the anni event
how new are you, there's always a prelude and "call to arms" event before the main event with the banner for major events
I'm 3 days in, started with no events xD
prob just because it's exactly the anni day
The exact anni is 25, tuesday is 21 
wait i'm dumb
i heard someone betting on it being on the 23rd ( although they never did it on that day in the past ) about deleting all of his 125 characters if it is wrong 
this is why I never say I'm sure of anything that's not announced
they added a logjn thingy
in the cn server ?
JP and likely will be on EN, for the renewed yostar account thing
CN
Servers are in maint?
well nagami I'd like to point out you could also just check the CTA dates on patch notes...
i'm just reinforcing this smh

liner? cruise?
that was for before we had the CTA dates, I only say likely on the 23rd, but I would be fairly sure that it'll be that week regardless
now that we have the CTA dates 
good morning how is maint crumbs
i believe servers are up r?
new orca gear or smth good?
it's already up? just asking
hm...anyone else just getting loading when launching the app 
i dont see the event thing for maint, and games not loading


have we ever had an event end before a maintenance?
cuz lil spee event ends on 21st, what happens if there is no maintenance?
we've had a few like those, you just get a small in-app update, and then it's gone
But we have maint then
No, it ends, no update
that's not what they're asking...
or at least I remember a small update being pushed w/e they end those types
Just say if we are right now in maint or not
Not Thursday?
we are in maint
is this normal or is my game broken?
I mean, next week update
Oh, no wonder it's just loading and loading.
wait for maint to finish
thank you
Maintenance rn
how long till its done ?
3hrs
maintenance ends <t:1715871600:T>
*subject to real life RNG 
just hope we don't get a repeat of Microlayer 
Well they have 3 hours
there's cruise or something so prob?
gacha UR will be available after maint right
Tuesday, stream 17
1gb update what happened in al
do NOT jinx it
it's actually more to 10gb
1gb in playstore and 10gb ingame wat
framework upgrade, login system(yostar) update
It said 13.7 GB for me 
the "file format" changed so need to redownload
does it include meta slots
not yet
no not yet
you on iOS?
sadge
we're gonna have to wait for the livestream for that news
tomorrow is stream so
its not up yet right?
i've heard ingame update is live for iOS, but android still pepega.
p2w
should be up in EN
updates still not up
in play store or?
ingame
huh wtf am i downloading 
how would i know
Apperenly its up for Apple
i'll keep you updated my game's about to be done loading (less than 800 files)
My game refuses to load and from reading above am I going to have to do the like 6 hours reinstall of AL?
no need probably
just buy a rog8 ultimate
i'm not rich either my phone's 6 years old
and yes that's from EN android assets
whats the liner event?
When the files drop, yes
it already dropped 
My day is ruined 🥲
what doubt i shown you the proof
i guess it depends on region?
it was a 6 hour reinstall with 200 mbps speed and my internet is currently like 60-70 mbps
Still showing nothing on Android
I got a 1.4 GB update on QooApp
I only completed the mandatory update on Android so far but nothing in-game at the moment
wtf 
Been stuck at 'Loading game...' forever 
Was 1.1 for me, but that's just the app
android seems to be having issues
operating system issue smh
just buy apple
Never!
:3
propaganda from big apple 
I hate Microsoft but not as much as apple
damn idk donut store have that much power
Apple products are only simple and easier to use if you've always used apple.
doing the update or reinstalling the game should be the same anyway 
What do you mean?
, mines a 2 minute update
you don't need to reinstall, just download straight
update play store > update ingame
it is the same because it is a 11.5GB update at least
the game didn't load after the update and when I tried reinstalling this pops up
There's known issues with android, Twitter is all saying the same thing. Will be fixed at some point, still 2 hours of maintenance left
okayokay 🙏
Good thing I checked here. I have the same issue
Well, no patchfiles is hardly our fault
My game is stuck on loading game after the update now any tips or is it everyone?
back read
Why is the fame stuck on the loading screen
Okay it's everyone
Wait so the final size of azur lane after this update is how much?
Same as always
21gb, got it. Thanks.
apparently if you change language to JP you can download it
trying to figure out if downloading the update will eat up all my space
New login screen 
yeah you need to change to JP language wtf
ok so, apparently if you set your phone language to japanese, it will download the 10.9gb preload for you
But won't the files also be localized to jp?
maybe, and it will probably be fixed again later anyway
Eeh, I'll let them fix it...
nope
phone language JP not equal to game client JP
anyway yeah prob wait for new play store update or something
jp supremacy 
But my dallies
what dailies
what if the phone doesn't have the jp language
?
break the phone
Is it on the system>languages and input?
wait until they fix it
yep, alr try it, its work somehow
Using phone btw, not emu so unsure
im using phone rn
works on emu
cn language also worked for me 
seeing these problem, i think they will extend for one or two
So it is system>languages and input?
yes
generally yes, depends on device
No problem on apple?
nope
we want someone to test with kr now 
なにどうしてえ
what is this en discrimination 
Do I tick the private quarter assets or no?
I forgot switch keyboard
Why is this taking long?
use JP language for now
up to you, it's the future 3d dorm stuff
During loading screen?
Please wait, staff are currently doing their best to fix the issues
3rd floor ?
on your phone, before opening. or just wait until they fix it
there's no way they'll leave it like that
3D
Is game working for you ppl? Mine appears to be stuck in the loading screen
change language to cn or jp
but i want someone to test with kr 

device language?
aight, thx

The Mt still happening?
yes
Is there a stream tomorrow on next upcoming UR??
In an hour and twenty minutes minimum
it works wtf
Yes.
So it'll be 10 pm for me then
This is an eight hour maintenance
If you’ve played for a while you should be used to those
Aight it works
But my phone is now in moonrunes
Now, what if I switch back to EN while the files are downloading
when is the time?
Check discord events
Do the language prob things will get fixed or I must use the device language change to jp?
en being hard discriminated now don't do it 

depends on many factors 
ur internet speed mainly and ur sleeping time and gaming routing schedule
it's not the downloading, it's the game crashes when not on JP/KR/CN
indie company moment
Guess I'll download it all night
Nah, I'll se tomorrow. Is too late at my time zone. Coping en will get fixed
Did the game reset or sth why would it ask us to update by appstore
are u new to the mobile game world
?
Yes
because there's a huge/major/idk how else to name it update
usually game update on play store, but some games like to make it not use play store for convinience. but sometimes you can't do that so need play store update
the frequency of the devs updating the apk varies from a game to another
AL is one of the least frequent to do it as far as i m seeing for 5 months now
Huge update i guess?
yeah
yeah massive expect 11GB at least
Wwhat the hell bro
it's an engine/framework/unity version upgrade
I think my phone aint holding more
is there a googledocs/website for the newest comps so far?
Didn't it count redownload rather than update cmiiw
also CN said the game smoother so try it i guess
yeah it is redownloading the files because it changed format
it should be fine
so the sizes stays mostly
wait it's maintence?
One last question, is there any official statement about the download problems things ?
not yet
oh
but it's supposed to be still in maint anyway so 
Is it fine to just download the files then change back to EN then wait for the fix?
or just wait for fix, up to you
If yes, do I have to redownload everything?
hard to say
Cus I already started the download
unless u test for us 
i download rn so i can play immideately(hopefully)
it should be ok TBH
in the past there was an issue in arknight with ldplayer in which we had to reduce the core count to 2 in order for the update to work then when u switch it back to 4 cores after the update it works fin
but that and this are not same issues
they look similar enough imo 
I'mma risk it ig, since I can't download the patch immediately tmr
We better get more apologems lol
for one, that's ldplayer only from what i read what you said, this is all android
u wish 
this is a cn game not jp also the issue only arose in the en side
also it happened before the maint ended
We're getting pruned 
Newest comps for... what content?
Or do you just mean like a general tierlist or something?
yes. for like latest chapter comps, i have an old sheet. dunno if it's still relevent.
#bot-spam /w15
Damn, Yamato gun was used in W15 campaign comps? 👀
CN, as always, ultra cooking huh
comps look weird
no asw for one, except hammii ghost but cert makes it look like 3* lethal fleets so is boss supposed to fight all recon or what
idk weird either way
that comp also is probably outdated
no presence of laffey and guam, no gold asw plane
looks very outdated
gotcha. thanks guys i'll throw it away
Ye, just do as Ren said and look for the W15 comps in botspam...
Bc that cook looks more like a cooked goose 
lol. gotcha. thanks again!
this updt is going to have several RN ships gain extra xp right?
Rodney, QE, Helena, Kimberly, Hatakaze
sweet, thanks 🙂
NO
Wait this is u reinstalled the game or this is update
major update usually like that yes
When will maintenance end?
Update
13gb is unreal
because it replaces almost(?) all the files
Is it possible to let it download in the background while you sleep I don't want my phone to shit itself
Dear god
it have bg download yes
It is u can leave it in the bg
For hours?
even if my phone is turned off? I'm guessing no
as long as your phone didn't kill the app
that's what bg means
I think my battery will do that automaticly upon reaching 20%
oh apologies
.
just plug your phone to the charger bro
For me, 30 min left
Oke ty
last time I did that my phone was on fire
It is still bg download yes?
I'm going to be playing this update tomorrow morning fml😭
yes because it gets heat from charging and running the game in bg at same time 

