gameplay-help

[blissful hamlet]

I already have more than enough lol

done that already

[whole crypt]

Mk IX was which one, tea torps?

[blissful hamlet]

they should've put missile in torps instead of aux

[whole crypt]

not like it matters I don't use DDGs outside of low-oil comps now

[steady beacon]

I will never succumb to calling them tea torps
But yes

[last pier]

someone has a sirius build

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmm, tbf I think I did have a lot of torp plates
Dropped a few for three Mk35s
Then dropped all of them for two Type 95 Kais for testing purposes

[whole crypt]

eh, I +13'd 1 quint 610, 2 quint mags and 5 quad mags

[steady beacon]

Is this for an OpSi boss fleet?

[whole crypt]

and 6 bidders + 6 G7es of course

[calm panther]

Do we know when we are getting the next UR event roughly?

[steady beacon]

In ~2 weeks' time

[whole crypt]

about 2 weeks

[last pier]

just to use her

[calm panther]

thanks

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cl?ship=sirius

[steady beacon]

Ye, if you don't have any specific plan in mind, just take the TL rec tbh...
Only caveat she has over any normal CL is she carries DD mains instead, really

[last pier]

ok thanks

[atomic abyss]

Is that really a caveat tho

[blissful hamlet]

DD gun actually make her better since it proc aoa more often than CL gun, and the dps isn't that much difference

[steady beacon]

I basically omitted half my sentence after nntk posted the TL lol
I was gonna say, "Just gear her like a CL"
Then added the caveat but without the main part

[whole crypt]

unless you're using q152 I don't think you have any chance of catching with the good DD guns anyway even without AOA, unless unfavourable armour

[steady beacon]

Ye, I attempted to calculate it after the CL gun rework, out of interest
... Then I remembered that I'm not exactly expecting Sirius, of all ships, to be working miracle numbers personally, so I stopped worrying about that detail tbh

[untold trout]

Do muse ships give tech points at all?

[crimson glacier]

no

[elfin hollow]

what is echos from afar ships?

[atomic abyss]

Muse, little and Collab ships do not give tech

[atomic abyss]

New event, so dunno

[untold trout]

Ah I see, wasting my time leveling Eugen muse, ty for the info

[steady beacon]

Unless it's a real rug pull, Echoes from Afar should the prelude to the actual big event... we should get some aux from it, but no actual ship
As for the actual big event, wait for the livestream

[plain saffron]

it's a prelude event, do mission for 5 days and get an aux type of event

the actual event will start 1 week after prelude starts

[keen sable]

why is there a french fleet approaching the port

[steady beacon]

Wait a sec, do you mean one of the announcements confirmed the prelude is for five days? 👀

[atomic abyss]

I feel like we're gonna get blindsided either way

[plain saffron]

iirc CN said it's 5 days to unlock all missions, or was it from somewhere else

[steady beacon]

You thought it was French, but it was I <insert other faction here>

[plain saffron]

or i might be hallucinating

[atomic abyss]

I mean, someone was saying it was gonna be German lol

[plain saffron]

You thought it was French, but it was another french

[late flame]

[atomic abyss]

Cos of Carl

[keen sable]

spee is ending on the 20th

[plain saffron]

a lot of people really conviced it's KMS based on some baseless evindence

[atomic abyss]

Basically, their logic was based on "Carl has to have come from somewhere"

[plain saffron]

better than the furniture

[crimson glacier]

ah yes the anson days were nice content

[atomic abyss]

So basically stay tuned

[steady beacon]

Mhm
On the one hand, I'm reasonably excited
On the other hand, it's a CN livestream

[crimson glacier]

what does that even mean

[steady beacon]

Double checked on weibo, it does indeed say 5 days

[glass mason]

I need a bit of a clear-up. I checked the Khorovod's dawn E.X event and green n the wiki I saw that you can get Tallinn from B3 as a drop. Is that true still or not?

[keen sable]

don't dew it

[blissful hamlet]

prelude only 5 days

[plain saffron]

you can, but only D3 will have pity

prelude is not 5 days, it's the mission that only 5 days instead of 7 days

so you can get the aux 2 days earlier than usual

[blissful hamlet]

more time for exp bonus

[wind hazel]

you mean same time as usual?

[plain saffron]

prelude is not 7 days, it's 4 weeks anyway

[wind hazel]

[blissful hamlet]

yeah but the exp bonus is only on for 7 days

[glass mason]

I'm already masochistic enough that I've played War Thunder for 3 years straight so that's nothing. Also thanks for the info

[plain saffron]

the exp on b3 is bad, everything is bad there

[plain saffron]

we're talking about the do missions get aux prelude event, not the exp bonus one, well it's confusing when both are called prelude

also idk what the is about, other events usually need 7 days missions not 5

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Mist_Upon_Silver_Summits
it's this type

[steady beacon]

To be fair, it is still possible that the operation preparation is also five days... we just haven't gotten concrete confirmation about it just yet
The Tuesday ending for Spee/now the aux prelude still playing on my mind...

[keen sable]

are you confirming or speculating next event is 23? care to explain spee ending on 20 then?

[steady beacon]

In short, we just don't know...

[plain saffron]

what, i didn't say anything about that

[atomic abyss]

Bruh

Tldr no one knows anything

[keen sable]

I like this better

[atomic abyss]

And it's just blind speculation at this point

[blissful hamlet]

gameplay speculation

[plain saffron]

i'm just saying the minievent is 5 days missions instead of 7 and that's ftom CN WEIBO

[atomic abyss]

Maybe I should take a page from Yuki's book

[plain saffron]

i never said anything speculation

[keen sable]

you added all this stuff about how you were positive xp bonus would be longer etc

[plain saffron]

what when?

[atomic abyss]

Anyways

None of this information has been officially announced on EN, whether intentionally or mistakenly

So let's just leave it at that

[plain saffron]

i'm just saying the prelude frame thing is 4 weeks usually, well i guess that's another thing we have when i call everything prelude

[keen sable]

that sounds like speculation

[blissful hamlet]

has it confirmed to be 4 weeks? does this mean we get 3 weeks event?

[steady beacon]

TLDR, we'll let you know when we actually know stuff

[blissful hamlet]

speculation

[atomic abyss]

[steady beacon]

For now, this is blindfolded darts
Like the way the devs pick augment modules

[wind hazel]

just wait for announcement, what's so hard

[late flame]

or retrofits

[plain saffron]

welp you guys said it's 1 so i said it's usually 4 which is correct, i never said it's for this event

nobody is speculating here, you guys just assuime i'm talking about next event

[plain saffron]

yeah idk why

[blissful hamlet]

wait faster

[atomic abyss]

That's not how waiting works

[obtuse knoll]

new french ur will be fnff or mnf?

[plain saffron]

nobody knows yet

[steady beacon]

I was gonna ask if it even matters, but then I remembered Richelieu's skill still makes the distinction

[blissful hamlet]

Richelieu retrofit will fix that

[elfin hollow]

which BB out of these 2 will i take out once i get vanguard, soyuz or nj

[crimson glacier]

soy is just better at everything

[blissful hamlet]

who's your other BB

[elfin hollow]

bisko2

[blissful hamlet]

vanguard is better than nj at bossing

[lone vigil]

This is my current fleet do I switch Pennsylvania with Rodney?

[blissful hamlet]

no

[warm flax]

Should I save?

[jaunty vault]

save for fs5, scrap excess of fs5 req

[blissful hamlet]

why does SAP gun isn't recommended on guam aux gun?

[crimson glacier]

guam secondary sucks

[sullen creek]

If you're against medium and you have, use it

[crimson glacier]

just give her something that shoots a lot of bullets so it can shield break or something

[blissful hamlet]

I see

so +13 for guam aux gun probably won't make a difference?

[crimson glacier]

yep

[sullen creek]

[blissful hamlet]

[sullen creek]

Is this the part where you're going to use something like 76mm on her

[south sequoia]

Why would you assume something outrageous as that

[crimson glacier]

76 has really bad amount of bullets per second so

[gusty olive]

I guess my fleet ain't strong enough to kill Harbiter (enough to bring her to 25 doe)

[hollow gust]

Fix the fleet

[late flame]

you'll get there.. just keep improving the gear and setup

[gusty olive]

The CV fleet is what I'm trying to fix at the moment.

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmm, still no go?
Did you max your adapts since the last time?

[steady beacon]

KK, let me dig out the thread again

[gusty olive]

It's pretty much once she pulls out the barrier, it's fucking over for me

[whole crypt]

how far is 135 range from main fleet?

[late flame]

iter

[plain saffron]

Uhh

[halcyon bay]

prototype spearfish worth grabbing or do i keep saving prints?

[wet prairie]

Ummm how Tf I just hit pity a month ago

Who do I get lmao, I already have both MLB

fk it we floof

[lament spear]

take the copy you like more

and keep her or liquify her for medals

[steep merlin]

Guys is 500 cubes enough for the next UR?...

[wet prairie]

400 is hard pity so yeah

[lament spear]

you are good

[steep merlin]

Okay ty

[tame jungle]

Maybe a bit of a strange question, but if you have a hidden zone in opsi and a daily mission in the same zone, does the daily mission appear in the hidden zone?

[void turret]

is there a best general purpose main gun for Hood? I've heard twin 410 is decent

[plain saffron]

No

Daily spawn in secured, hidden is like another zone that sit at same place

[steady beacon]

In lieu of the (slightly) better, but considerably more expensive options, the Twin 410 will serve you well for a good long while

[void turret]

got it

[sharp socket]

how many story chapters of opsi is there

[south sequoia]

I think up to 5

[sharp socket]

does it also have really difficult bits similar to main campaign

[south sequoia]

you need to complete up until chapter 4, but to fully unlock everything you need to do chapter 5

[south sequoia]

Sort of

[sharp socket]

do i need to build specifically for them or i can just use my normal mob/boss and send it

[south sequoia]

The latter assuming your fleet is good and above 110+, the highest level it goes up to is around lvl 104

[tame jungle]

For campaign it doesn’t really matter as long as you have a couple lv110+ fleets

[south sequoia]

it's only a mini arbiter fight

[sharp socket]

oh thats good then

both my fleets are 115+ except for indep

[south sequoia]

It can start to matter when you start doing w13+

[tame jungle]

Opsi campaign

[south sequoia]

oh

[kind olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238833227909828688/1239141685200425020/image.png?ex=6641d81f&is=6640869f&hm=515c1283d0bf91a5513777cae2afacb7367c5e9267554a27a2d2d31e75a9fd84& So does this means I need to use CV flagship for 14-4?

[cobalt kettle]

are u guys able to fully auto opsi

like on strategic search, or is there a message that makes u click screen after clearing a map

im only getting that on my phone, on bluestacks i can fully auto. idk why

[whole crypt]

no, you need BBs to deal with suicide boats

[tame jungle]

Maybe see if you got “disable tb guidance” checked in options (something along those lines)

[tame jungle]

That one yeah

[cobalt kettle]

keep it on?

[tame jungle]

Yes

[cobalt kettle]

oh ok, i think my settings r different for phone i guess

[plain saffron]

Yeah settings are local

[cobalt kettle]

[honest stirrup]

What am I doing wrong

[lone vigil]

i just got another helena when mine is already at max limit break what do i do do I retire the new one?

[atomic abyss]

yes retire

[honest stirrup]

Don't you need another helena for retrofit?

[jaunty vault]

dupe/bulin yea

[atomic abyss]

well yes, or you could use a bulin

[strong tartan]

you don't need you can use a bulin too

[lone vigil]

ill probs save for the retrofit then

[strong tartan]

wtf autocorrect

[jaunty vault]

using kearsarge probably

[atomic abyss]

under levelled ships, is that kear even dev 30?
heck kear is seriously out of place tbh

[steady beacon]

Well, a couple of things could be improved, but W15 isn't easy either, to be clear

[inland shoal]

I mean you don't have max levels everywhere and idk why Kear, Percy and Ark, but have you tried setting your formation to circular rather than single line?

[strong tartan]

that support fleet also looks kinda weird

[hard pecan]

Any suggestions on how to get my vanguard fleet above 15000 power?

[late flame]

fleet power is a rubbish metric

[inland shoal]

Power isn't relevant

[hard pecan]

I see

[honest stirrup]

I legit forgot about that, thanks

Well I guess I'll swap Perseus for Indomitable and Kearsarge for either Musachi or FdG

I have no idea what to do about Ark, maybe Haku dev30 would be better

[steady beacon]

You don't need to, and indeed shouldn't for the reasons already given
But if you want to for any reason, just stuff the entire vanguard with oxytorps... generally if the backline doesn't have too many BBs this will work

[hard pecan]

Ah okay, thanks.

[inland shoal]

Idk anything with more fighters would be better
Musashi sounds good as mob flag

[wooden kindle]

World 14 dumb question:
When do you pick up the flares?

[kind olive]

hard image

[kind olive]

every 3 mobs. and only use it on a 3* mob

[wooden kindle]

Thank.

[sinful elk]

Chat do we have a fast way to gain oils? I can't stand waiting for canteen and commisions

[wooden kindle]

Spend money and buy oil.

[worldly pewter]

looks like still missing AA ?

[kind olive]

if there's, the muricans would love that no. as Study said. maybe spend money

[sinful elk]

[worldly pewter]

in the span of 5 months of gameplay i never had issues with oil

[kind olive]

yee.. maybe. I guess i gotta 100% this stage first before I can fully 3* it

[sinful elk]

I just clear 10-2 and 10-3 and 4k oil disappeared 😭

[worldly pewter]

even though most of my low time commissions are on my sleep time because jp server

[wooden kindle]

I cleared 14-3 and I only used like 3k oil.

[worldly pewter]

the lethal clear is very hard TBH i m not going to attempt it unless i m 2 years in

[wooden kindle]

If you using ineffective fleets and you need 4k oil to clear 10-2 and 3, you gotta level up your team it sounds like...

[sinful elk]

How is a fleet "ineffective"

[kind olive]

I almost had it tho. I guess I need a few bit more gear improvement. Or maybe try to pair unicorn with volga instead of unicorn and aquilla. Idk

What I know, I have bunch of oils to burn atm

[gusty olive]

Nvm

Xsend

[wooden kindle]

If you are using like low level teams that guzzle oil and aren't really doing dps, that can be ineffective.

[sinful elk]

Well they made it out alive so i think its a fair price?

[kind olive]

phew. that was though. Now comes the ez part of grind

[wooden kindle]

But Idk man, I am not the one with the oil issue. I still got like 10k oil in my reserves.

[sinful elk]

[worldly pewter]

seeing umi no neko fleet he had standard gear nothing special

[worldly pewter]

oh it was w14

[kind olive]

idk man. Idk how they play. I just slap auto

[kind olive]

[wooden kindle]

I just auto W14.

[kind olive]

ya im noob on this. I'll get there at some point ™️

[worldly pewter]

do u have guam ?

[south sequoia]

How would guam change anything

[worldly pewter]

AA

[south sequoia]

Brest would be better for this world, keeps fleet sustainability
Soaks a lot of hits

[worldly pewter]

his backline almost vanished

[wooden kindle]

Brest sounds good in that fleet.

[south sequoia]

W14 AA isn't that pressuring, while you still want good aa guns to shoot down planes due to reveal
having a lot of aa wouldn't change much

[kind olive]

yes. that's because im tryn to get one of the star which requires me to annhiliate the whole mobs. Without these, My fleet is running just fine

[south sequoia]

w13 and w15 are the plane hell worlds, w14 focuses more on being w11 on steroids

[south sequoia]

I recommend not doing it until you get it to safe if you wanna keep your sanity

though seeing how you got 2 stars

you probably already finished it

[kind olive]

well.. late. I got it already

noted though for w15

which Im not gonna do anytime soon until my new orleans is fully capped

[worldly pewter]

i didn't know that u wanted to go for kill all enemy star ur pic is misleading

[jaunty vault]

i got 3 stars on lethal in w15 and im still sane
probably

[south sequoia]

with the context of killing all enemies it's understandable

[worldly pewter]

how many heals are there in the map ?

[kind olive]

tehee

[jaunty vault]

what heals

[worldly pewter]

0 ?

[jaunty vault]

and which map

[south sequoia]

There are no heals

[worldly pewter]

the manjuu thingy

[wooden kindle]

What heals on W14?!

[kind olive]

ya 0.
That's why a lot of people would bring 2 healer

[south sequoia]

The daily manjuu thing?

that's for every map

it's always 1 free

[jaunty vault]

per day

[wooden kindle]

If you are referring to the daily manjuus, that's not a heal. That's a restore per day (and 200gems after)

[worldly pewter]

[jaunty vault]

prerty sure its 100 gems

yep 100 gems for 3 chances per day

[wooden kindle]

Eh. I don't use it so.

I coulda sworn it was 200 but eh. Tomato Tomahtoe.

I still need an auto fleet for W13. I don't have Bunker Hill xD

[fresh tangle]

He definitely asked this but forgot: retrofit Portland after unicorn?

[jaunty vault]

yep

[wooden kindle]

Yes

[fresh tangle]

Alright cool thank you

[worldly pewter]

funnily enough they are in the right order

from left to right

[fresh tangle]

I’m doing unicorn now not hood -_-

Just got the plans so figuring out what plans I need on hard mode daily

[wooden kindle]

Damn I need an auto fleet for W13. Wanna just throw ship names for it?

[worldly pewter]

all the cv that u have

[jaunty vault]

turn off clearing mode

[worldly pewter]

go out and disable clear mode

[wooden kindle]

Turn off clearing mode.

[jaunty vault]

what do you have

[ashen pecan]

Does Z1's buffs affect Felix?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[ashen pecan]

thats great! thanks!

[sinful elk]

Is there any other way to lvl up subs than shoving them xp books and sorties?

[wooden kindle]

Throw em in the dorm.

[sinful elk]

Done that too but its not effective i think?

[wooden kindle]

XP books, sorties, send em to fights, dorm.

[sinful elk]

I guess ill just continue shoving them xp books

[drowsy flame]

I just got another shinano should i limitbreak or move her to second fleet?

[wooden kindle]

No point in having 2 unless you like her. I think they nerfed the ability of having 2 of the same ship in different fleets.

[drowsy flame]

Is that so? I will limitbreak then

[steady beacon]

In either event, the first one should be fully limit broken before you ever consider keeping dupes

[wooden kindle]

^

[late flame]

just limit break (or retire if already at MLB) there really isnt a point in dupes outside of flexing

[plain saffron]

they're not nerfed, there's just no need

[wooden kindle]

There used to be a thing with Double New Jersey. I think they got rid of it?

[plain saffron]

you need to spend 4 UR bulins to mlb the same ship, and opsi don't allow duplicates, and no need to use 2 in main campaign

[plain saffron]

nothing ever changed

just took some time for some people to realise it's a bad idea

plus they have spare resources so they can do whatever they want, and back then there's not many UR

[wooden kindle]

Yeah

It was an old strategy. Anyways. I need a W13 auto fleet. Wanna help?

I'm missing Bunker Hill.

[plain saffron]

i'm bad at fleetbuilding 🏃‍♂️

[wooden kindle]

[late flame]

w13? cv + AA carry and its done

[wooden kindle]

To be fair, using my random W14 auto fleet seems to be working so.

[lean sable]

is the upcoming event for gear a new one or a rerun? If it is a rerun is it worth getting it? Or is that a weapon for the new UR?

[plain saffron]

new, not for the UR

it's usually an aux

[worldly pewter]

did they announce when will be the maint ?

[plain saffron]

not yet

[wooden kindle]

I gotta start using these weaker ships to clear other worlds. Tired of seeing my ships at level 100.

[plain saffron]

just use them and farm exp+coins in w12

before lvl100 use exp packs or dorm them

[wooden kindle]

Nah, I like using them for events.

[plain saffron]

if you play a lot you're run out of good ship to lvl so you use trash ship in w12 while farming coins

[wooden kindle]

Been a while since I saw W-12

[slender pond]

Is there a list of all healer ships?

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn, Shouhou, Ryuuhou, Painleve, Volga, Aquila, Arizona, North Carolina w/ Augment
AND perseus

[elfin hollow]

Do I do it

[atomic abyss]

i believe that's all? unless you count san fran too

[elfin hollow]

Klaudia

[echo axle]

Ender I finished up to w10, now what

[atomic abyss]

honestly, up to you

[elfin hollow]

Other 2 options are robutt purple and blue hindy

[atomic abyss]

like the general advice is "don't with that no of cubes and coins"

[elfin hollow]

Guess i'll do hindy then

[atomic abyss]

i would take it personally, i do like living on the edge after all

[steady beacon]

Bulgaresque mentioned Klaudia
Honoka also, among collabs
Does Ingraham count?
Also, Ender, I know she's fallen off, but how did you forget Perseus 👀

[atomic abyss]

OH WHOOPS

the best part is i actually use her

[open stratus]

guy why laffey has tentacles her back , is that a bug or something

[late flame]

you have equipped a gear skin

[steady beacon]

Ye the Observer gear skin is on one of your auxes I'm guessing

[open stratus]

oh I don't notice

thanks btw

[steady beacon]

Dw I put various Ryza gear skins on my subs bc I was doing some testing earlier this year and needed to be able to identify whose torpedoes were whose
Then was startled some months later when all my sub torpedoes came out in the colours of the rainbow and I was
And also

[tired stream]

for w15 cats, do i want 2 cv or 2 bb or 1 each

[steady beacon]

Uhhhh
I guess I'd say use cats that benefit the most ships in one fleet...?
If I remember correctly, mine was
Bishamaru (CV)/Oscar (BB) in the 15-3+ mob fleet - Oscar largely for preemptive strike fishing
And Bishamaru/Eagle (both CV) in the boss fleet

But there are probably plenty of reasonable options

[wooden kindle]

Who got those W15 help threads? I gotta find some. xD

[lone vigil]

What should I do when I'm low on fuel

[jaunty vault]

did you even clear your w13

[wooden kindle]

Still hunting for Bunker Hill lol

[jaunty vault]

opsi/close the gane

[wooden kindle]

Spend money and buy fuel.
Close the game
Play OpSi till you got some fuel.

[jaunty vault]

what does this do

"default to auto mode in secured zones"

[wooden kindle]

It's whether you always want to auto mode or not in OpSi

[strong tartan]

it defaults to auto mode in secured zones

[wooden kindle]

I leave it on. No point in turning it off.

[jaunty vault]

does it matter if i do strat search anyways

[wooden kindle]

Yes.

[sinful elk]

How rare is the high purity metal thing in opsi

[jaunty vault]

as rare as any of the other gold mats

[sinful elk]

I clear pretty much 70% of the map and only found 6

[jaunty vault]

probably

cause we dont know drop rates

[sinful elk]

Dunno man i got some to 46

[jaunty vault]

yeah well

[sinful elk]

[jaunty vault]

theres this thingt called RNG

what it does is

[sinful elk]

Oh yeah does the battery saver option actually save battery

[jaunty vault]

it limits your FPS on auto farmin

[wooden kindle]

What is purity metal?

[jaunty vault]

so yes

[jaunty vault]

opsi mat for gearlab

[sinful elk]

So if i limit my fps from 60 to 30 it help save further battery?

[echo axle]

Guys, I finished up to w10, using the (Fleet1 - Hood w aug, unicorn, Volga, Bremerton, laffey, Chang chun)
(Fleet 2- Zwei, enterprise, ark royal, eugen, Helena, sandy) inspired fleets by Uniquename and Ender, now what do I do? Should I focus on researching?

[jaunty vault]

sure does

[sinful elk]

Dawg

[wooden kindle]

This guy flexing like 46 Ultra High Purity Metals are high numbers.

[jaunty vault]

kek

[wooden kindle]

I have 900+. Your point?

[jaunty vault]

smh tosic in gph

[jaunty vault]

could do that
or push to w12

[wooden kindle]

xD. I thought it was like some high number secret mat I didn't know about xD>

[jaunty vault]

its your choice really

[wooden kindle]

Go to W12/13
Also start focusing on research/OpSi

[echo axle]

Hmmmmm, I'll push till w11 cuz I need to finish my current research on Saint Louis

And then I'll do FDG as ender suggested

[wooden kindle]

You should do all the research PR/DR ships that you can.

[echo axle]

Yessir, trying to rn

But my blueprints are very low

Except Saint Louis who is at like 400

[wooden kindle]

Blueprints come through researches and time. Lol ain't gon be done in a day.

[wooden kindle]

You can change your target and there's catch up BPs. Change it to somebody else.

[echo axle]

Already did to Kersage or sum

Wait nvm, she's not in the catch up I did to Agir but she's done so now FDG

[frank mango]

doesn't have to be a secondary gun right?

[wooden kindle]

"When this ship equips Northern Parliament gear, increase this ship's Secondary Gun efficiency"

No, just equip Norther Parliament gear to her.

[frank mango]

a bit doubtful for me because only the secondary gun is affected by the buff
And it second skill to

But ok

[jaunty vault]

you got your answer

[frank mango]

[jaunty vault]

can always come back if you get such doubts again

[novel condor]

[wooden kindle]

Depends on the gear you are using.

[high sentinel]

Shinano or Enterprise for boss fleet, and should I move enterprise to mob fleet if Shinano is the better pick

[novel condor]

Y not both? They both meant to be for boss fleets

[lone vigil]

Can I upgrade gear efficiency?

[jaunty vault]

shinano is better but enty is bad for mob so shinano in mob

[novel condor]

Yes, by MLB the ship

[high sentinel]

I have 2 BBs and 1 carrier as my lineup

[lone vigil]

Idk wat MLB mean

[jaunty vault]

gear efficiency is tied to the ship/ ships skils

[wooden kindle]

Retrofit her.
MLB = Max Limit Break

[novel condor]

Then follow Cooper suggestion then

[jaunty vault]

ig you can retrofit helena

[lone vigil]

K ty

[wooden kindle]

Why wouldn't you retrofit her?

[jaunty vault]

[wooden kindle]

Also no Augment gear for her...

[novel condor]

? I mean you could, didn't say u couldn't

[forest palm]

consider building her like this btw

[wooden kindle]

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or new guy gear.

[lone vigil]

K

[forest palm]

considering the gear on her right now, it's probably the best they could do

[lone vigil]

Ik only commander lvl 39 just started this week

[wooden kindle]

I'm being too sassy and tired tonight xD>

Yeah I figured new guy gear.

[forest palm]

can't just say get SGR, and Manjuu that would imply they're using HSFCRs, or have the reload for it

[jaunty vault]

the only way to increase gear slot efficiency is to limit break/retrofit/skill(for some ships)

[wooden kindle]

At least give her Bofors lol.

[forest palm]

AA Gun can kind of be w/e till like world 12 lol

[wooden kindle]

Gold Bofors aren't even hard to get.
I wouldn't go +10 for that crap though...
I'd do +6 the most.

Nah Bofors/Discs are baseline minimum.

[forest palm]

like pre-world 12 you're dying to suicide boats, and burn

[wooden kindle]

Fair point.

I still like having usable AA guns on my ships so.

[lone vigil]

Just got to world 6 should I be farming any stages I haven't farmed any stages yet

[jaunty vault]

not really

farm the highest stage u can when u get stuck

and do your dailies

[wooden kindle]

No, stop farming, just beat stages.
Farm the highest stage when you are stuck.
Events help you level up.
There's tons of events so.

[strong tartan]

no I'd wait until after you've cleared w9

[wooden kindle]

Just don't go past W10 and just do events lol.

[lone vigil]

Anyone know when the next event is cause I've been saving my cubes cause that's what the guide said

[strong tartan]

2 weeks

[jaunty vault]

23

[wooden kindle]

23rd of May

[strong tartan]

cn anniv is 23rd

[jaunty vault]

anniv is 25

[strong tartan]

who lied to me

[jaunty vault]

latias

[wooden kindle]

This is the time to stockpile your coins/gold.
Anniversary should be 25th May.

[strong tartan]

that liartias

[wooden kindle]

My dumbass thought Liverpool was a UR. I saw it as Elite and I'm like terrible.
I'm going to bed on that note.

[steady beacon]

She's got a UR personality, if that makes you feel better
Also, her on-torp barrage is bizarrely strong
Alas, that is where the good ends

[jaunty vault]

how bizzarely strong is it to be labelled bizzarely strong

[wooden kindle]

At least Bunker Hill is mid.

More surprised I'm missing 5 ships for this damn game. Lol

Bunker Hill, some Chinese Elite, Tiny Formidable (forgot to pick her up xD), Houston 2 and Dewey because bad RNG.

[steady beacon]

It's bizarre because its total shot power is 1680, with 110 all modifiers...
If you want to get an idea of why that is a bizarre number, consider Plymouth's Pathfinder's Shroud barrage, with total shot power of 700, with 120 all modifiers...
On a random Elite ship

[wooden kindle]

Tiny Formidable is gonna be annoying though, because I gotta wait for some dumb event.

[worldly pewter]

if u want to compare with another mat look at the electronics too because that what i suspect that it has the lowest drop rate although this is all speculations and no one actually knows how this actually works

[wooden kindle]

RNG.

[forest palm]

ops is ops there's no dedicated area for specific mats, it's random at best

[wooden kindle]

I love how 48 metals is the flex still.

[forest palm]

my vast amount of mats for playing ops for like the past 4 years

[wooden kindle]

Lol.

I think I have a bit too lol.

[lone vigil]

Do I switch anyone with cleveland

[forest palm]

Indianpolis is literal deadweight la

like I can understand if you like her design, and so on, but on a practical level she's worse than Portland in everyway possible

[lone vigil]

I used to use her instead of z23 with Poland but I was told to switch cause she wasn't good

[forest palm]

and running Indianpolis with Portland is just as bad

[wooden kindle]

Lol honestly, this game is so autopilot at end game, sometimes, you can use whatever ship you want and still beat a map lol.

You have Enterprise, Unicorn and Helena literally on your fleet.

Ok I'm blind and dumb.

What's your fleet?

Oh you are new new.

[jaunty vault]

how many

[wooden kindle]

Cassin and Downes are really good for cheap runs.

I would level those two up with Helena + Unicorn.

Shouhou gets to be decent too btw.

[south sequoia]

Oh

avoid those 3 mentioned.

Ignore the cassin downes and shouhou suggestion

Cassin and downes have long outlived their use given that cheap farming is pointless in todays age.

[whole crypt]

low cost farming is a super late game niche

[south sequoia]

Shouhou is a bit pointless to level up early on considering unicorn is accessible and is the best healer in the game.

[wooden kindle]

Phoenix is good.

[whole crypt]

Pheonix is not bad but there's not much reason to use her any more

[plain saffron]

they're fixed, only limit break and some skill can increase them

so yeah once you mlb and fulfill the skill requirements that's the max

[wooden kindle]

We literally had people asking what do they do if they run out of oil but. Ok.

[jaunty vault]

b-but samheart564 guide recommends leander

[south sequoia]

The suggestion is to just wait.

[plain saffron]

what you have to do is stop playing

[whole crypt]

late game stages sometimes you want a main healer (Unicorn) + a side heal carrier that's also good damage

[plain saffron]

better to save oil then farm a good stage, than "saving oil" and farm bad stage

[whole crypt]

you should just take a break if you're out of oil, instead of wasting it on a low cost fleet

low cost fleets nowadays is just for minmaxers in super lategame

[south sequoia]

The game isn't running away from you to rush and absolutely farm something
What stage could you even farm to warrant the usage of both, 2-1 was long dead since 2021.

[plain saffron]

it's still alive

[whole crypt]

for you it is nagami

[south sequoia]

It's alive but on like.... 4 life supports.

[wooden kindle]

That's why I suggested Shouhou but hey.

[plain saffron]

people keep saying it's dead but for people who actually do it, it's still there

[south sequoia]

and a head surgeon

[whole crypt]

Shouhou is not a side heal carrier that has good damage

[plain saffron]

people who said it's dead never really did it in the first place smh

any stage triggers it

[south sequoia]

You're talking to the person who made the 2-1 guide back in 2021

[forest palm]

recommending Shouhou feels like 2018 all over again

[whole crypt]

2-1 is really for people who want to spend hours coping for gem comms

[south sequoia]

I was a cult follower to 2-1 lol

[wooden kindle]

Dang I feel old.

[plain saffron]

that's why you're not a true one smh, if you're true one you should've added it back to the bot once you become mod

[whole crypt]

I'd rather buy my gems than farming 2-1 before I reach 35996 tech

[plain saffron]

yes but oil cost is irrelevant in current time

[wooden kindle]

They kinda fixed that with oil caps.

[south sequoia]

It is, but on mid - late game stages it's pointless

due to the oil cap system

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[wooden kindle]

In modern time, oil is only relevant if you suck at game management.

[whole crypt]

oil is relevant if you play too much

[plain saffron]

i would buy gems too but at that time i doesn't have jobs

[south sequoia]

You also wanna rush all the way to w9+ as well

[plain saffron]

btw i was joking so sorry

[south sequoia]

apology not accepted, essex is rapidly approaching.

[plain saffron]

[wooden kindle]

Ehhh, I didn't do world 10 until all my ships hit 125. xD

[strong tartan]

yes come to me

[south sequoia]

Oh speaking of secondary healers, do we have any accessible secondary healers?

like even from just gacha pulls

[wooden kindle]

Aside from Shouhou.

[strong tartan]

isn't Aquila perma

[whole crypt]

sounds painful but you do you

[south sequoia]

Shouhou isn't a secondary healer

[south sequoia]

Not yet

[strong tartan]

oh

[plain saffron]

if it's for second fleet, second unicorn

[whole crypt]

only Ryuuhou

[wooden kindle]

Ryuuhou.

[whole crypt]

Aquila and Volga both haven't archived

[south sequoia]

She's a main healer, and because shes a main healer her damage isn't quite there
secondary healers are ships who do heal but also pack support/punch alongside them

[wooden kindle]

Perseus.

[plain saffron]

ouh

[south sequoia]

perseus also falls into main healers

[whole crypt]

Perseus is also main healer that has no damage

[south sequoia]

slotting her in with uni in w14 is asking for not a very fun time

its possible but why?

[wooden kindle]

Because KimoCheese did it.

[strong tartan]

oh

[wooden kindle]

Yeah but that dude is like a Gacha addict.

[south sequoia]

that sucks, looks like newer players need to wait quite a bit more

[plain saffron]

like anyone here isn't one

[whole crypt]

well back in my day

[strong tartan]

Aquila reran quite a bit ago so

[plain saffron]

w14 should be doable without 2nd healer though

[wooden kindle]

Not really gonna diverge the convo.

[whole crypt]

Perseus/Ryuuhou ch14 was a thing 2-3 years ago

[wooden kindle]

There's no secondary healer.

[south sequoia]

What ships are even used in place of a 2nd healer? Every run I've seen always has a 2nd healer on board

[whole crypt]

more damage

[cobalt rapids]

where

[south sequoia]

w14/15

[strong tartan]

I've seen indep be used

[wooden kindle]

Centaur?

[cobalt rapids]

w14 can run any good dmg cv/bb offlag, w15 can run good dmg cv > norcal

[south sequoia]

iirc on w15 it's that bad that according to suchi you are better off running percy/uni over another ship instead if you don't have 2ndary healers available

[wooden kindle]

Lemme get my W14 fleet. I'm not recalling.

[south sequoia]

the last part came from me but the percy/uni thing is true

[plain saffron]

iirc i didn't use any 2ndary healer for my 2nd account

[wooden kindle]

Dude's not even on world 14/15 lol. End game players gotta remember game's not the same as somebody starting out.

[whole crypt]

NorCal w/ aug legit ch15 cope

[strong tartan]

I think I saw Albion once

[cobalt rapids]

i put >

[south sequoia]

the convo has moved away from the person helping since they aren't asking anymore I shifted it into its own topic

[wooden kindle]

Ayyy, we shifting to W15 help?

I could use some W 15 help xD

[cobalt rapids]

#bot-spam /w15

[wooden kindle]

When we getting 130 s the level cap and new worlds?

[plain saffron]

we don't know

plus devs said they hate raising lvl cap, w15 doesn't get any lvl cap increase

[wooden kindle]

Also Illustrious finally useful for the game xD

[plain saffron]

so it's possible for w16 and so on to not have any lvl increase at all

[sullen creek]

She was never useless

[plain saffron]

just powercrept

[wooden kindle]

I just find it funny that I can auto 13-4 and W14 easily but can't do W15. xD

[viscid swift]

You just need to adjust your set up accordingly

[wooden kindle]

Yeah I figured xD.

[lone vigil]

current formation is this do i replace anyone with chapayev just got her from doing my daily

[plain saffron]

i would keep current one, keep her for later

[lone vigil]

when do i use her later

[plain saffron]

better to keep raising current one until you reach ch9 or something

plus she needs gold bulins, enty need it more right now

[worldly pewter]

u have to keep using jav

[weary fog]

San Diego Retrofit in mob fleet is enough to get me through chapter 12?

[viscid swift]

overkill if anything

[vocal sonnet]

Could anchorage be viable in W15-3/4 instead of jeanne d'arc?

its the boss fleet where im already using brest and sandy

[sinful elk]

Hmm is it worth to do the secured ones

[viscid swift]

try and see what happens

[haughty dust]

Going to make a thread here. Need some advice for fleet formation for chapter 13 and up. I finally got 13-1 to medium and 3 stars.

Fleet formation advice for chapter 13 and up.

[tame jungle]

What META ships from dossiers should I prioritize?

[drowsy gust]

what is the best vanguard line up for opsi mobbing?

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmm... whichever you want to use followed by the good tech ones
None in the archives have so far proven completely necessary as singular ships, so you can often make do with other stuff instead
For myself, I was quite fond of using Helena META as a debuffer, and I used Souryuu META to get over Queen Elizabeth META's gimmick in her season
But apart from that, I've not used any of the ones currently in the archive for anything serious, so far

[wispy pendant]

As a newer player are any of the meta ships recommended over other easier to obtain ships? (I’m not a newer player, just asking)

[viscid swift]

well the problem is by the time you max any of the dossier METAs you're not really a new player anymore

[steady beacon]

Many ways to skin the cat (phrase I'm not allowed to use)
I know a lot of people use Hindenburg/Shima/Unzen for sheer powering through
Whether that is necessarily the only and singular best, I can't say
I personally use Kron/Shima/Harbin myself plus NJ/Uni/Indy backline and have had no reason to be unhappy with it

[wispy pendant]

Basically the recommended research ships in PR4 and others you can coin from before combined with hood and enterprise, etc, no metas really help a player whose been playing for 3-4 months?

[viscid swift]

pretty much

[wispy pendant]

Kinda sad, tbh, but it is what it is.

[viscid swift]

and that's if people bother to do OpSi in the first place which many don't

[sinful elk]

Does this gun fit good on helena

[viscid swift]

as a CL main gun no

[soft raft]

the upgraded version of it does

[sinful elk]

BB aux?

[soft raft]

regular 155 sucks as a CL main gun but it's pog as a BB aux gun due to the bullet pattern on it

[viscid swift]

it works fine in that role

[sinful elk]

[tame jungle]

Is 155 kai a big upgrade over its predecessor?

[viscid swift]

it's better as a CL main gun and BB Aux gun in W14

[tame jungle]

Does it change pattern or is it just damage

More accurate spread i’m guessing then?

[viscid swift]

yes, tighter spread

[tame jungle]

Thanks!

[keen sable]

normal cl, nothing special

[tame jungle]

I mean i’m quite a ways from plygun lol so just seeing if anything else that i can get is worth using

[worldly pewter]

do u have 1k vouchers ?
i assume that u meant the hidden zones ?

[sinful elk]

No i mean the zones after you captured them?

[worldly pewter]

these are infinite zones u can go in them as long as u have ap

[plain saffron]

use the rest of AP on them

[steady beacon]

If you've already done all the Hiddens/Abyssals/Strongholds that you are capable of, you can spend any extra AP clearing Corrosion 3 or 5 secured zones
It's extra rewards so you might as well do them, especially since you can fish for cat nodes, which can reward you with the useful rare items

[sinful elk]

Aight

[worldly pewter]

i always priotize the dailies for the first 20 days then unlocking all the map

then i go ham in the last week on everything else

and i (we) have the pilica card for the arbiter

[sinful elk]

If an abyssal is too strong can i just ignore it

The 30% heal are god tier annoying

[worldly pewter]

first try to raise ur tuning to 156 i think

[steady beacon]

Oh right, do all your daily missions, I forgot about that

[worldly pewter]

the reason why i don't go on hard zones is the tuning
i take my time to grind it slowly

[tame jungle]

Tuning cap is on wiki

[steady beacon]

Ye, if it's just beyond you at this stage, no point banging your head continuously against a brick wall
Sometimes, especially if you're relatively new, it's just beyond the capability of your fleet at the present time
And the zombie heal Abyssals are probably the hardest of them all if your fleet just can't do a ton of burst damage

[worldly pewter]

u need at least 2 good fleets for the healing abyssal even if it is IV rank i remember the suffering

[sinful elk]

We don't have any ship does anti healing?

[worldly pewter]

the dude recovers 4x bars each 10 sec

[tame jungle]

Just bring more Le Damage… sad but true

[steady beacon]

Nah just one shot it

[sinful elk]

Well i have two usable fleets but can only burst over 50k dmg

[steady beacon]

Well, we don't have any ship yet that does anti-healing
We have faced enemies that can do it, though...

[tame jungle]

That’s just unfair, we need this siren tech

[sinful elk]

[worldly pewter]

in opsi there are enemies that turn the healing into damage too

[tame jungle]

Ryuuhou putting my own ship out of their misery

[steady beacon]

Wait till you try out Ari META
She heals you after you drop under 50% HP
But when you drop under 20%, she reverses all healing (except the effect of the Pearl's Tears)
Very nice girl, very quick death

[plain saffron]

there's not much enemy that heals so the ship with that skill will be niche

[steady beacon]

Gonna be honest, we once tried theorymonning that effect as a way of weaponising enemy Juneaus in PvP
But other than that, you are indeed correct

[tame jungle]

Wait what’s this jamming field skill? That seems kind of crazy

[steady beacon]

I presume you mean the usable one's skill
It can be useful slowing down suicide boats/random production stuff that slips past your vanguard to help interception but uh... as you can see, it doesn't reach very far, so it's not going to apply to any other enemies, unfortunately

[tame jungle]

Ok yeah that’s pretty handy on bomb boat maps but not anywhere else lol

[grand solar]

So I have a question. Should I leave the duel 127mm in the photo below, or switch NJ up to the twin 137mm in the second picture?

[viscid swift]

it's low on the priority list to craft, stick with what you have for now

[steady beacon]

If only it worked like the boss one's fog that chases its target
But META ships have kinda established so far that they are ridiculously OP in story and as bosses, but then when you get them, not so much (except, I would argue, Jintsuu META...)
It's why, like I said before, very few see much serious use

[serene moth]

since i have all but polio in pr4 should i head over to pr 5 and who should i start grinding there?

[viscid swift]

it was tested in W14 back when she first came out but she just proved to be worse than other "budget" options

[viscid swift]

unlock order doesn't particularly matter since you probably don't have BPs to max anyone anyway

[serene moth]

i see

are drake worth going for, i have alot of bps/and you can coin but never done the xp for her

[viscid swift]

She's whatever at this point

[serene moth]

aight

[primal obsidian]

does agir's +15% evasion work only in campaign where there's ammo or everywhere?

[viscid swift]

If there is no ammo in a node it's treated as if the fleet She's in has ammo

[plain saffron]

those type of skill, no ammo and ACV check if the fleet have the debuff/tag from no ammo/low acv. so if there's no ammo/acv mechanic the debuff would never exist, thus the skill always activate

so it doesn't check if the fleet have ammo, it checks if the fleet doesn't have ammo

[hearty hound]

What’re the thoughts on North Carolina’s Augment Module?

[sweet delta]

she's a mid healer

[worldly pewter]

it took me 5 months 4 days to max the cat house
is that normal ?

[digital flower]

What's the quickest way to farm little spee items?

[wind hazel]

quickest? sortie with lil spee in team, but quite unnecessary if you play daily

[tame jungle]

what's this mechanic (or where can i read up on it?)

[plain saffron]

max limit break text

[tame jungle]

ahh

[plain saffron]

some get +30%stats from aux, some trp spread reduced, some shots reqs to aoa halved

[jaunty vault]

[tame jungle]

[novel condor]

[royal heath]

Who should I put my new spearfish on?

[tame jungle]

who do you have

[royal heath]

Perseus, uni, implacable, haku, shinano, yorktown 2, enty, Aquila and centaur at 125

But imp,uni and Perseus alr have wyverns

[viscid swift]

It's a mobbing plane mainly

So whoever you have on mobbing

[royal heath]

All my mobbing CVs have wyverns alr

[viscid swift]

It can replace one of the wyverns

Assuming it's not W14 anyway

[royal heath]

Ok

[low juniper]

Should I craft the Prototype XF5U or F7F for Independence?

Or should I use use one of my 2 gold F6Fs

[tame jungle]

pancake generally better allround

damage is the same but pancake has MUCH better AA

[low juniper]

Does that go for most CV/Ls?

General use fighter?

Or just Indy

[tame jungle]

given resources aren't a problem that should be the case yes

[low juniper]

The circuit board thing is always what I have least of for some odd reason

[tame jungle]

it's used for a lot of good gear lol

[low juniper]

This pancake is the first SSR gear I've crafted from the lab

[tame jungle]

you were using f6f before?

[low juniper]

No actually she had the F4U

[steady beacon]

Nope, that's normal
Very normal

[low juniper]

Oh wait I'm wrong, I crafted some AA guns before
Unless those were in the depot

[tame jungle]

yeah it's a huge difference

VF17 is decent but pancake just better in every aspect lol, it was a noticable bump in performance when i swapped my +10 VF17 for a +13 pancake

(only the reload is worse)

[low juniper]

So is it something I should try to equip on most of my CV/Ls when I have the resources or are there other planes that would be better in specific scenarios

[tame jungle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Fighters.jpeg

[viscid swift]

There are also higher priorities to craft from the lab than pancakes

[steady beacon]

Gonna say something heretical, but I went in the complete reverse direction to you
Mostly because I am unhealthily obsessed with speed...

[tame jungle]

lmfaoo, yeah the speed will be something you'll miss

[low juniper]

Since I have 2 gold F6Fs should I give them to CV/Ls that have F4U equipped?

[tame jungle]

F4U is still fine

[low juniper]

It's better than the gold F6F?

[keen sable]

the picture says so...

[tame jungle]

unless you're gungastruggling with AA? probably

but that's likely to be a deeper rooted issue than swapping F4U for F6F

[low juniper]

Picture just says F6F is 3rd best gen use and AA while F4U says good poverty option so I wasn't sure

By the picture I would've thought F6F was better

[keen sable]

oh purple f4u?

of course gold f6f is better

[tame jungle]

oh you were talking about purple F4U or the VF17?

[low juniper]

Purple F4U vs gold F6F

[tame jungle]

ohhh yeah disregard what i said, F6F better LOL

[trim tapir]

Is the a way to auto heal in OpS using the healing boxes?

Lame

[keen sable]

you can automagically need 0 healing boxes by using unicorn

[low juniper]

So the cannons are the AA guns on the planes?

[trim tapir]

yea but I want a level up 3rd ship while mobing

[low juniper]

I was always confused about what those were

[soft raft]

ngl why are you doing that in opsi when the XP gain is quite poor compared to W12

[tame jungle]

great xp/oil ratio!

[low juniper]

Lmfao I just realized I have Enty in mob and Indy in boss whemn it should be swapped

[terse sinew]

August or Hindenburg after Agir?

[soft raft]

the rest of PR4 -> Plymouth -> Then you can essentially do everyone else in whatever order you want

[viscid swift]

August von Percival

[low juniper]

I bought a VF17

Didn't realize I had 3.6k core data lol

[forest palm]

probably one of the more poor investments you can make

[obtuse knoll]

should i use my general blueprint?

[forest palm]

for?

[rustic oak]

Good afternoon, comrades! Is it worth changing the golden barracuda to the VIT-2?

[obtuse knoll]

any pr/dr research

[forest palm]

VIT-2 is in fact better than the Barracuda

[forest palm]

it really depends on whom you use them

[rustic oak]

Thanks

[obtuse knoll]

is there any benefit for keeping them though and finish my research only by using their blueprint? *I haven't used any of mine

[jaunty vault]

you could turn them into protocore
but then again you can also turn your research BPs into protocore so youre only slowing down your progress

they are good as cosmetics in your depot however

[obtuse knoll]

damn I thought there's benefit for keeping them..

[jaunty vault]

[forest palm]

toss it at ships that are a few prints away from Max, save for Fate Sims, there's benefits in having them, but only if you're actively using them

[vale spindle]

It doesnt really make a difference

[forest palm]

just don't waste generics on PR3, PR2, or PR1

[vale spindle]

you get more prints than you can use if you still continue doing research for the rainbow gear

[obtuse knoll]

I have my pr3 generals with me too

[vale spindle]

pr generals for a coinable season are just for protocores

dr ones id still use even if the season is coinable because dr prints are painpeko

[obtuse knoll]

aight thanks

[rose whale]

which UR gear should I focus to research?

[viscid swift]

well what do you have currently

[low juniper]

Why

[rose whale]

not much, just these and 2x dd gun

[viscid swift]

you don't even have one Hindenburg gun?

finish up that then and start stockpiling BPs for PR6 fate sims in August

[rose whale]

oh wait, I have one, it's pushed down below

[viscid swift]

start wortking towards a seccond then, you don't have that much time to work with PR7 due in about 2 months

[rose whale]

okay, one stone 2 birds then. thanks

need 37 prints in 2 months 🤔

[vale spindle]

good luck!!

[rose whale]

thx 😄

[polar lion]

Do the loli ships gib tech yet?

[jaunty vault]

nop

[polar lion]

😩

[jaunty vault]

oh saratoga gives tech

[tame jungle]

[polar lion]

Sara 120 ady

Do we want moar than 2 Hinden guns?

[whole crypt]

why not

[jaunty vault]

only thing stopping you is opportunity cost

[forest palm]

because gold Corsair from Core Data is barely better than a F6F, and outclassed by 3 fighters in Gear Lab, on top of the fact that there's just better items to buy from Core Data

[solid quail]

how do I utilise Kron's 1st and 2nd skill?

[worldly pewter]

[misty tree]

[solid quail]

I see. Thanks. Then I mainly use her as VG position in BB based fleet?

[sweet delta]

if it's for opsi then she should be away from the BB fleet

[solid quail]

Oh the opposite then. I forgot which UR VG ship should be in for BB fleet....

[atomic abyss]

Plymouth, and Agir too maybe

[soft raft]

Ply and Agir yeah

[dawn crest]

Could someone tell me when Shimakaze's rerun will be?

[tame jungle]

tomorrow

[atomic abyss]

what in the fuck

[tame jungle]

it came to me in a dream

[cobalt rapids]

she alr reran so never

[soft raft]

It reran 5 months ago

[cobalt rapids]

shell get archived in 🔮 time

[atomic abyss]

It alr reran

[rain vine]

some time in the next 2 years

[atomic abyss]

So the answer is, it won't rerun

[dawn crest]

So, is it no longer possible to get her?

[soft raft]

until her event is archived and she is added to perament pools, yes
Which usually takes like roughly a year after rerun

[dawn crest]

no eta, right?

[atomic abyss]

First and last warning
If you are going to deliberately give wrong/misleading answers, action will be taken against you

[soft raft]

only vauge estimates off of precedent

[tame jungle]

got it

[dawn crest]

Possibly by the end of the year?

[soft raft]

we dont know and wont 100% know until the devs let us know

[tame jungle]

hopefully man, we never know until devs announce it lol

[dawn crest]

got it

[viscid swift]

shouldn't be that far off either way

we've only got Aquila's event before we get to Shima for the WAs

[tame jungle]

if her event gets added to war archives i assume she'd get added to perma pool, joining NJ and Shinano?

[soft raft]

dunno if she would be added to heavy and special like they did with both NJ and Shinano being in eachother's pools but she will be added to the perma pools either way

[viscid swift]

she will be added to heavy and special and not light, JP confirmed as much when Shinano and NJ wer added

[dawn crest]

but her is not a DD?

[viscid swift]

she is a DD

[tame jungle]

yeah she is but light construction is OP lol

reckon they want you to spend resources on URs more

[viscid swift]

but the devs aren't gonna just have her sit with a permanent rate up for who knos how long and at reduced cost to build no less

[dawn crest]

got it

[rain vine]

also if shes on light, then that pity counter aint going up outside of non-ur events

[tame jungle]

well

it will go up right? it's just at half the rate of the other construction pools

[rain vine]

counter only goes up if you pull on a banner without a ur in it

[tame jungle]

oh wait for real?

so if she gets added to light then it will no longer count towards UR pity

[atomic abyss]

we, are making a lot of assumptions here

[soft raft]

let me just test it out real quick

[atomic abyss]

it could just be as likely that shima is like nano and nj, available in both heavy and special only

[tame jungle]

ok i just did 1 build on heavy

i did get added pity, so no that's not correct

[atomic abyss]

so it is pointless to speculate further

[atomic abyss]

and yes, this shd be wrong

[soft raft]

tfw misinformation

[atomic abyss]

but again, we are assuming a lot here

[tame jungle]

the "event pools without an UR shipgirl" is 1 part, which is probably where the confusion comes from

[atomic abyss]

until they actually archive her i wouldn't bother assuming/investigation

[rain vine]

so this is literally just poorly worded

[atomic abyss]

it's not like you can build BBs on special and CVs on heavy...
with the notable exception of the URs

[tame jungle]

yeah it's a little ambiguous

[worldly pewter]

it should be the double cost banners since all the UR event banners are double cost ( compared to the light )

[atomic abyss]

that would be my educated guess
but it is exactly that, a guess

[steady beacon]

... Late, but what is the confusion?
The JP post from the start of the year detailing the process was pretty clear about the whole thing

[viscid swift]

it was

this applies to all gacha URs in future including Shima

[soft raft]

wack wording on the wiki's summary of Perma URs

[jaunty vault]

[inland shoal]

I find the wiki desc to be quite clear tbh

[steady beacon]

... Basically, we split hairs over a comma is it...

[jaunty vault]

wack

green name praising green names

[soft raft]

Guess it's just everyone EN'ing like usual then

[jaunty vault]

i dont EN

[steady beacon]

I get maybe a source of strict grammatical confusion, but if one read the whole thing, I don't think you could possibly misinterpret it from the context... so I'm with Thorin on this...

[inland shoal]

Not like you should pull heavy or special anyway

[jaunty vault]

i dont know the context so ive got no take in this...

[worldly pewter]

but in order to catchup

[sweet delta]

i find that english to be ambiguous

[steady beacon]

I was gonna ask if you read the screenshot, but then I read #gameplay-help message

[viscid swift]

highly reccomended against in my guide to 100%

[soft raft]

[astral turret]

Musashi hasn't rerun yet right?

[steady beacon]

Nope

[jaunty vault]

nop

[tame jungle]

gonna do a 10 pull on heavy now guys

[worldly pewter]

is that because of the powercreep/bulin issues ?

[soft raft]

"""Catching Up""" means nothing when you're gonna take months to get them MLB and a new, more powerful UR might come out within the time

[sweet delta]

#al-general

[soft raft]

Not for a fair while

[viscid swift]

no because pulling on events does that anyway

[astral turret]

god bless

[worldly pewter]

i was considering someone is very behind on them

[inland shoal]

Only pull on heavy/special during wishing well

Otherwise you'll just waste cubes on basically nothing

[worldly pewter]

what is a wishing well ?

[tame jungle]

yeah no it's way too expensive man you'll just run out of cubes for next UR event

quick probability chart i made for UR ship pulls

[inland shoal]

Grafiektitel

[tame jungle]

just too low

[worldly pewter]

196 is 90% ?

[viscid swift]

so am I

[tame jungle]

yea roughly

take into account

[worldly pewter]

i was thinking about the dupe tech

[soft raft]

the hell you mean dupe tech

[worldly pewter]

pulling on heavy/special for more chances of extra bulins

[soft raft]

If you get them by conicidence, sure, but that's not something we'd generally reccomend people to do

[tame jungle]

do not rely on your luck

[steady beacon]

Thing that runs twice a year
Choose a perma pool and choose two ships that are in that pool
And it'll basically spawn a build pool where the two chosen ships are rate-up

[worldly pewter]

for someone who played e7 this sounds like a custom banner

[steady beacon]

No idea what that is, but uh... sure I guess...?
Only two ships with rate up, compared to uh... most pools
(Certainly all I can remember right this second)

[soft raft]

that's basically it yeah

and most of the time those run alongside UR events

[viscid swift]

what a complete and utter waste of cubes

100% is already going to take 3 years on average, mass pulling on heavy or special will not speed that up by any significant degree but it will deplete your cube stockpiles for events which are well limited

[worldly pewter]

i was just theorycrafting for someone who is behind on everything before guam

i didn't mean mass pull

[viscid swift]

all the more reason not to pull on heavy or special

[steady beacon]

Remember that all event pools draw from permanent pools as well
You are... pretty much always going to pull some perma ships incidentally from event pools

[viscid swift]

it doesn't matter what it is or how you want to describe it, just don't pull on heavy or special

[soft raft]

only thing is URs arent in event polls but non-UR event pulls count for pity anyways so just naturally reach pity with event and light pulls

no need to haplessly splurge your cubes on perma heav/special and cripple yourself when a new UR drops

They are called a trap for a reason and no amount of mental gymnastics you might try to do can fesabily justify it

[worldly pewter]

ok i will drop the idea then i will have fun being perma behind then

[jaunty vault]

sarcasm stops being funny at some point

[tame jungle]

patience is key, AL is resource management game

[soft raft]

Better to be slightly behind on perma URs than to miss out on a new UR then have to wait 2 years for them to rerun, in that time which a newer release might have powercrept them and rendering your wait mostly moot

[worldly pewter]

yeah i feel like i will get bunch of non mlb UR ships in the dock and that will be kinda depressing

[tame jungle]

just bide your time

[viscid swift]

you will catch up it just takes time

like there's a reason I preface I guide to 100% with this

[soft raft]

Eh it just takes time
At one point you'll have more Spec Core than URs you need to MLB

Like I never thought I'd have more than 3 URs MLB but now after 3 years, I have every UR MLB and 26k spare Spec Core in the bank

[tame jungle]

impatience is how gacha games get you

i think you also get enough UR bulins to MLB a ship in the span of 2 months provided you actively play

[soft raft]

yup
6k Spec Core max (5k grind cap + 1k from medal shop) per month
and a UR Bullin costs 4k Spec Core

[tame jungle]

• event rewards for grinding and stuff too

oh and cruise missions as well

[viscid swift]

you get outpaced when you're trying to catchup but the thing is eventually you'll get through all the rerun and perma URs

[worldly pewter]

yeah i think with the new and reruns it is very doable
but if we add it the perma it becomes very challenging

[steady beacon]

Key thing to remember is that, with near certainty, you will be able to fill any gaps in your roster of perma pool ships faster than you will be able to fill the gap of a missed UR (take it from me, who had to find creative workarounds for losing UvH and her cross-fleet proximity barrage )

[soft raft]

no it doesnt

[worldly pewter]

that is why i think the newer players will face even more trouble on that

[tame jungle]

you got the guarantee tho

[viscid swift]

not particularly, it'll take longer yes but you will catch up in time

[tame jungle]

400 cubes on perma = 1 guaranteed UR of your choice

[late flame]

imagine if collab counted towards collection kek

[worldly pewter]

i mean as long as i have the pilica card i guess

[sly haven]

im a newish player and a bit nervous about joining a guild, would it matter if im not very active in a casual guild?

[tame jungle]

and if you look at the counter

when saving between events: 1 progress per day for pull mission
when saving on non-UR event banner: 6 progress per day

[keen sable]

casual/best means nothing. every guild can do their own thing

[sly haven]

ok

also i have a question related to the story so im not sure if i should ask it here or not

[soft raft]

#al-lore

[sly haven]

thx

[faint kite]

hi folks, I'm currently suffering from what i can only describe as a severe lack of good CA guns. kindly prescribe me my cure.

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_203mm_(SK_C/34)#Type_3-0

[keen sable]

open boxes. do research. don't miss events.

[steady beacon]

Well, uh... get good CA guns...?
Or is the question more like... what are the good CA guns?

[tame jungle]

• what's commonly available for you

[faint kite]

this all i really have

[viscid swift]

what you have equipped is a good CA gun

[tame jungle]

the troller

[jaunty vault]

no u

you will never have enough guns if you try to equip everyone

[tame jungle]

unless you are gungarich, you'll be fine withthis

[faint kite]

i see. i was trying to equip most of my ships and noticed i have way more CL and DD guns than CA

[steady beacon]

Oh, is that what I'm doing wrong?

[jaunty vault]

[steady beacon]

Swapping equipment between ships is kinda a necessary element of this game, so yes
You can literally only field at maximum six ships able to carry CA guns at a time (under an environment where you can't swap halfway), so just... take them from ships not currently in sortie

[keen sable]

shouldn't scrap purple guns if your goal was to equip all ships...

[sweet delta]

You use more than 10 CA guns at once?

[steady beacon]

The alternative is to be like me and use exactly two CAs, both of whom have their guns basically permanently fixed at this point

[late flame]

in before need to swap guns anyway becaue you know, boss armor

[steady beacon]

You underestimate how lazy I am to swap Unzen's gun out 👀
And the other CA does not go into bossing anymore, so 👌

[sullen creek]

👀

[sharp token]

what is HIT for?

[eager mulch]

stat that determines if you do damage or not

[inland shoal]

For ...hitting

[eager mulch]

/accuracy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.

Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.

[sly haven]

can i train 2 skills on a meta shit at the same time?

[viscid swift]

no

[sly haven]

ok

also, how do i get the stuff that let me train meta skills?

[eager mulch]

daily raid, opsi shops

meta shop

[sly haven]

ok thx

[soft raft]

you either grind out missions or buy dedicated META skill books from Opsi shop and the dedicated META shop

And you use regular skill books to unlock META skills for levelling

[sly haven]

ok

[undone plover]

is double shell BB better for harby this month? cuz 90 second fight means no need for radar to 4 salvo right?

[sweet delta]

hit is good

[undone plover]

cant i just reset for hit rng ?

[jaunty vault]

idk, can you?

[undone plover]

so what is the acc threshhold for radar to be considered better than black shell?

[sweet delta]

depends on enemy eva and luck, and depends on your BB's fp, hit, luck, timed buffs, and main gun damage ratio