gameplay-help

[steady beacon]

Overlevelling the enemy is indeed a powerful thing lol

[atomic abyss]

I mean, you don't use Shinano for the butterfly barrage

[soft raft]

the barrage is still dogshit on regular nano

[atomic abyss]

You use her for her other skills and the plane loadout

[steady beacon]

Hold a sec, though
By "loving the dreaming butterfly" do you just mean her or her barrage

[tropic tusk]

oh

[elfin hollow]

Thanks

[tropic tusk]

y not just do 12-4 for money and exp

12-1 and 12-4 how much exp diff?

[elfin hollow]

Guess I've gotta level up my game... I haven't even started chapter 9 as of yet...

[steady beacon]

Because... there's a difference
Elder Shinano is great, but the butterfly barrage is categorically not why
And little Shinano is fine enough, but the butterfly barrage is also not why she's at least OK...

[lone vigil]

as a new player what should I spend my medals of honor on I have 74 atm im thinking of getting a SRBB or SRCV when i get to 80

[atomic abyss]

BB for Hood most likely
Assuming you don't have anything better

[cobalt rapids]

enterprise and hood specifically

[soft raft]

Enterprise and Hood are real good
Enty > Hood in terms of priority but with the upcoming event, you should get enough to buy both

[elfin hollow]

Just to have an idea, without fancy ships like Shinano or New Jersey or most of the PR/DR yet, and with a fleet at level 100 on average, at what level of the ships can I actually start going past chapter 8 (hard mode included) without any casualties?

[tropic tusk]

how much difference

[elfin hollow]

Also, not much great gear, nor the materials to upgrade them

[steady beacon]

Level 100 at least good (even if not PR/DR/UR) ships with good gear can definitely go past Ch 8 normal... probably to Ch 10 I'd say
I wish I could remember what the Hard Mode levels were

[lone vigil]

A this is my team who do I replace with enterprise?

[viscid swift]

Lexington

[soft raft]

Lexington
Also yeet Inidanapolis for pratically anyone else

[viscid swift]

also drop Indianapolis for your starter

[lone vigil]

so z23 then

[soft raft]

yes

[lone vigil]

i did get murmansk tho so should i use her?

[steady beacon]

Also worth observing that you can easily bring the aforementioned fancy ships like Shinano and New Jersey poorly geared and still have them die horribly

[soft raft]

no she's worse
The only thing she's really known for is this emote

[crisp wadi]

Does the 400 pity if reached max is still going up or no?

[lone vigil]

also should i be using my T1 and T2 exp data packs to level my ships

[soft raft]

if you mean if you dont claim it, no it wont continue to go up

[soft raft]

no reason not to

[fresh tangle]

Woah just got my medals from battle pass whatever it’s called and I can get enty now

Was not expecting to get 40 medals 😂

[lone vigil]

what do i need to limit break enterprise

[fresh tangle]

Bye bye baby nano 😭

[soft raft]

Either duplicate Enterprises or gold rarity bullins

[lone vigil]

i have gold ones but i doesnt give me option to select them

[spiral ember]

Why was triple 155mm kai only good on w14?
And what makes neptune gun better everywhere else?

[sinful escarp]

level

[steady beacon]

You probably accidentally locked them

[soft raft]

did you level them up?
because the default filter on the limt break screen only shows lvl 1 bullins

[elfin hollow]

Nice
I was going to list my strongest girls... But kept forgetting halfway through, so I'll take a screenshot and come back

[steady beacon]

Cool, when you're ready, create a thread and post your ships and I and others can give advice from there

[elfin hollow]

Oh

[soft raft]

Triple 155 Kai is good for W14 because the suicide boats there are more beefy, warranting the more tighter spread over the regular 155

And only Boomers use Neptune gun these days, regular 155 is the one everyone uses everywhere else

[lone vigil]

Thanks I didn't realize that I managed to fix it now 🙂

[elfin hollow]

Should I consider the entire fleet? Also, should I include my gear?

[crisp wadi]

So for the pity do its better to exchange it eventho nano and nj mlb or wait new Ships added?

[steady beacon]

Entire fleet plus gear yep

[fresh tangle]

So much oil but never enough coins 😭

[soft raft]

it's most likely gonna be a long while before they add more URs to perma so may as well redeem it now that way you're not wasting what could've been progress towards another pity

[elfin hollow]

OK
It'll take a while, and it'll be a rather large collection of pictures...
Thanks beforehand for your sacrifice in order to have me playing better

[steady beacon]

Well, if your NJ and Shinano are both MLB
What URs are you missing?
Because, to some degree, that might affect the answer

[crisp wadi]

Only Vanguard. But yah maybe i just exchange it for collection

[soft raft]

Easy 500 specialized core

[steady beacon]

That's fine, just create a thread before posting the pics, to avoid cluttering the main chat

[viscid swift]

just wait then

[steady beacon]

Vanguard's gonna get a rerun before being made perma anyway, so yep... just exchange for collection or cores
Def no point sitting on the spark at that point

[fresh tangle]

Am I missing something with coins? Never have enough but struggle to get through my oil 😂

[soft raft]

You're not grinding hard enough or you keep splurging your coins or both

[fresh tangle]

Need a bunch to finish retrofit and MLB Enty

Retro 🦄

[sweet delta]

Play more

[fresh tangle]

Off to push campaign I guess

[viscid swift]

just wait till you're farming W12

[obtuse knoll]

can someone recommend me boss fleet and mob fleet for chapter 15 from these? which pr/dr/ur should I focus on building for chapter 15

just finished chapter 14

[viscid swift]

do /w15 in #bot-spam

[soft raft]

do /w15 in #bot-spam
and come back if that doesnt fully work

[stray vigil]

I have enough bps to sim V everyone now, what pr has the best equipment? IV?

[cobalt rapids]

finish pr5 and try to max shimanto afterwards

[steady beacon]

It can be a bit tough before you hit oil cap maps, really
Because the coin returns from just clearing stages (without clearing rewards) isn't too great
But ye, once you get to W9+ with oil cap and clearing rewards (and especially in W12+) the coins definitely start rolling in faster

[cobalt rapids]

assuming u got 2 of each rainbow alr then farm more plyguns

[stray vigil]

Let me rephrase
I have already maxed out everyone and have enough to sim v the pr6 ships

[fresh tangle]

All the more motivation to push. Tbh been focusing on limbus company 😂 hit a wall there though.

[steady beacon]

Yep, just spam farm those wonderful, wonderful Plyguns when you have all that lol

[versed elk]

3 plyguns

[viscid swift]

please don't leave gear at +12 like that though....

[keen sable]

2 +12 plyguns 🚮

[stray vigil]

I can +13 them

So ply guns then? Any particular reason?

[viscid swift]

versatility

a fleet can use up to five at once

[steady beacon]

You just want a lot of them, really
Since they double as best CL main gun AND best BB aux gun

[wispy pendant]

You don’t lose strongholds by leaving them till the end of the month right? They just queue up and show up as you clear them?

[keen sable]

1337 to you

[stray vigil]

Ply guns +13 now

[cobalt rapids]

i mean like i wouldnt but i guess whats 270 plates more for 4 +13 457 owners

[viscid swift]

don't forget the Alaska Gun, and that 100 kai

[keen sable]

that didn't mean they were worth +13. +12 is just a waste of resources. +13 may be even worse.

[stray vigil]

Okay, done

I had 600 plates

[steady beacon]

I really must have spent my plates wrong somewhere

[stray vigil]

I only spend my plates on ur equipment and the ocassional white and black shell

(Not the oxy torps)

[steady beacon]

Actually, if you have two Iowa guns, you've been here longer than I... so I feel a little less bad on that...
Still, though, to have a plate surplus like that... would be the dream lol

[obtuse knoll]

which ship can substitute musashi for chapter 15?

[viscid swift]

not +13ing Champaign Guns, Quad Mags, Bf-109Gs, HVARs, Converging TBs yeah, that's just foolish

[sweet delta]

Many can be downgrades

[stray vigil]

I did +13 Hvars for My yorktown

[obtuse knoll]

soyuz is a downgrade as well?

[atomic abyss]

yea
large part of what makes musashi good for w15 is her sheer bulk

[sweet delta]

From your box Soyuz is second place after musashi

[stray vigil]

If you like i can show my gold plate collection

[viscid swift]

that's not necessary in the slightest

[atomic abyss]

flex that in #al-general perhaps

while soyuz can match her on the damage front, bulk is not something soyuz matches her in

but well, she's already one of the best options around ofc

fdg matches sushi in bulk but loses on the damage front instead

[stray vigil]

For those interested its on #trophy-room

[obtuse knoll]

aight then.. chapter 15 seems to be crazy hard though.. should probably build my brest and plymouth first I guess

[atomic abyss]

i mean, clearing chap 15 is pretty much for the flex or to get the SR drop or the gems

[obtuse knoll]

and gears

[steady beacon]

I know I shill it way too often but uh...
If your options are scarce or gear is not tip-top, you can compensate a LOT with 🕹️
But waiting is also fine

[atomic abyss]

you don't have to clear w15
but then again, depends on what your aim is

[sweet delta]

Brest is unnecessary, but yes you should dev ply and Brest in general

[atomic abyss]

by the way, that is rodney meta on the latest tweet right

[steady beacon]

Mhm

[stray vigil]

Yeah

[coral oyster]

Who should I team jeanne d'arc with?

[sharp socket]

is xp gain on ships dependent on oil spent

[viscid swift]

you build fleets for content not around ships

[keen sable]

2 other ships

[atomic abyss]

jeanne has no preference for any particular team
she does excel and keeping others alive tho

[atomic abyss]

no, dependent on map

[sharp socket]

so higher map = better?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[stray vigil]

And the enemy fleet level i think

[atomic abyss]

in general

[jaunty vault]

not exactly

higher is better if you ignore oilcap

[atomic abyss]

but there's a point where the content becomes too hard for you to farm for exp

[jaunty vault]

probably

[viscid swift]

cooper going through more name changes than me

[sharp socket]

i see

[cobalt rapids]

and pfps

[coral oyster]

Understood

[atomic abyss]

in short
farm for exp on maps with oil caps

[sharp socket]

so when is the anniv coming and can i get gems from it

[soft raft]

the 23rd and no unless you're Chinese

[sharp socket]

may?

[atomic abyss]

yes
that's for CN anni

[sharp socket]

oh cool so usually what does global yet

[atomic abyss]

an event

[soft raft]

May is CN Anniv
Aug is EN anniv
and Sept is JP anniv

You only get anniv gems for the region you are in

[atomic abyss]

that's all really

[sharp socket]

do i get to pull

uh build

[viscid swift]

the 3 main servers are all in sync so

[soft raft]

why wouldnt you

[atomic abyss]

major event so map + gacha + shop

[sharp socket]

i heard there will be UR

[viscid swift]

that is most likely yes

[soft raft]

for CN and JP's yes
EN is too close to JP for them to get a UR event

At best just a regular SR event

[sharp socket]

UR are always really powerful right

[fluid brook]

Gacha URs are powerful, yes

[sweet delta]

Some gacha URs are powerfuller than others

[keen sable]

you don't really sound like you're in a position to be super picky about powerful? how many cubes do you have?

[sharp socket]

i have 500+

im not being picky

just asking question

[eager mulch]

unless he’s unlucky

[sharp socket]

i hope i dont run out of coins

[serene moth]

do some farm and farm some more and your are set

[fluid brook]

Ye but remember that theres no pity in ssr event which is where you ( me ) loses more cubes

[sharp socket]

ok time to do basic research in lab then

[keen sable]

if your goal now is to collect every ship then you should pull on all events. maybe don't chase that pesky elite for 700 cubes but at least do the dailies. If you refuse to buy dock space, then you can be pickier and UR's are for the picky.

[fluid brook]

For a Nubian

[sharp socket]

my goal is to not suffer in w13+

[keen sable]

I introduce you to NoCar

[sharp socket]

my goal is not collection nor waifu because im poor

[soft raft]

you do not need URs to not suffer in W13

W14 anad 15 though, they'll definetly make your life less painful to varying degrees depending on how well you build your fleets

[fresh tangle]

Is the daily tactical training literally just torpedo spam.exe etc?

[hard sedge]

who is stronger for a boss fleet shinano or new jersey?

[soft raft]

Depends on the content and the rest of the fleet

[viscid swift]

If you're asking on who to select from pity it depends in what other URs you have

[zinc prairie]

where do i get more books

[hard sedge]

i have none

[atomic abyss]

dailies, supply shop

[hard sedge]

XD

[zinc prairie]

aight thnks

[atomic abyss]

though i'll be frank, use the blue books lol

[viscid swift]

NJ then, and wait until after the CN Anni to MLB her

[soft raft]

the daily raid
Various shops
Various mission rewards
Various event rewards
And some other sources idk

[atomic abyss]

you have 360, just start using them

[worldly pewter]

if u have 340 defense books that means u know where to get the books

[keen sable]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#skill_books

[hard sedge]

I HAVE 4 RAINBOW BULLIN THO ISNT THT ENUF?

[keen sable]

you pray for the rapid training event to end already

[soft raft]

4 Bullins is only enough to MLB one ship

Wait till new UR comes out to determine if you want to MLB that or NJ first

[viscid swift]

We have a new UR probably dropping in 2 weeks and the new UR may take priority over NJ

[hard sedge]

I SEE

[fresh tangle]

Retrofit Laffey after unicorn? Planning my next plans as I’ve got all my t3 plans for unicorn

[worldly pewter]

if vanguard gets announced after the cn anni she will take a priority over nj right ?

[viscid swift]

Portland then Laffey

[keen sable]

that could be like 5 weeks. it would suck if you got dupes after mlb

[hard sedge]

is like events timelines of azurelane simillar to AK where the CN server is a bit early on the updates

[atomic abyss]

no, we are in sync

[viscid swift]

No

[soft raft]

CN/EN/JP are all in sync
KR and TW arent but they've been getting closer

[fresh tangle]

That hurts my heart 😭

[hard sedge]

i see tq im still new to this community so im a bit behind on news n stuff

[viscid swift]

KR still behind despite being open longer than en

[steady beacon]

Uhhhh... at least in terms of improving your current BB boss fleet, I would probably say yes
But it's not necessarily impossible to argue the reverse, depending on your priorities

[viscid swift]

We don't even know if Vanguard is next at this point

[worldly pewter]

it wasn't for me but i see

[steady beacon]

Oh wait
I read that as Vanguard as in HMS Vanguard...

I thought you meant like... Vanguard's rerun gets announced after CN anni

[viscid swift]

That was what they meant...

[worldly pewter]

[steady beacon]

So then what's the issue, exactly...
IF Vanguard is next, then I'm answering the question...

[cobalt rapids]

they were answering witha question ig

[fresh tangle]

Should Enty be flag or keep Hood?

[cobalt rapids]

hood

[worldly pewter]

i think the person only had nj and nothing else and 4 bulins
so if they uncap the new anni UR and vanguard gets announced after it
how the priority goes that was the full picture

[viscid swift]

It depends

I'd lean more towards Vanguard for most scenarios though

[steady beacon]

Ah, so you weren't asking specifically
Got it

[worldly pewter]

i don't know in which conntent vanguard wins

[steady beacon]

We can talk about that in your thread another time, if you want (one of my favourite topics, actually...)

[elfin hollow]

I'm back, finally, after a messy screenshot session...
How do I create a thread, or whatever it is, to post the pictures?

[cobalt rapids]

/thread thread title
then post pictures

[elfin hollow]

Oh, thanks

[worldly pewter]

i think it might serve me very well actually
since i want to prioritize shinano over vanguard

[elfin hollow]

/thread etwas

?

[boreal temple]

How far are we till new UR?

[cobalt rapids]

about 2 weeks left

[boreal temple]

[elfin hollow]

Is this offnya good?

[keen sable]

it's a basic usable lime

[cobalt rapids]

its ok

[elfin hollow]

also can i get flame aggression on bishamaru from the upgrade thing?

is it worth to keep resetting until i get it?

[keen sable]

you can get flame on any cat from the upgrade thing

[cobalt rapids]

depends on starting

[elfin hollow]

my start is 2 avi and 2 avi + rld

[wispy pendant]

Should I work on more ply gun or more tenrai?

[elfin hollow]

or was it 2 rld and +2 avi + rld...

[viscid swift]

I would take the 5th Plymouth gun first

[keen sable]

it doesn't matter, he's trash

[elfin hollow]

what would be considered good? i thought rld made a big of a difference

[wispy pendant]

And then 6th ply gun?

[viscid swift]

well you probably won't even be done with the 5th before PR7 comes out

[keen sable]

flame, 2xrld, 1 x rld+ would be good

[cobalt rapids]

unique is extreme, its a good bisha but rolling it to perfect will be quite hard but u can try to get reroll for ace then leave it like that

[keen sable]

starting without a rainbow is just bad

[cobalt rapids]

maybe

[wispy pendant]

Wish they let us buy ur prints in the shop again like once a year refresh or something.

[keen sable]

onyl pound should do that

[cobalt rapids]

i still dont have a good bisha start, it depends on ur luck not first prio to roll ofc but if u got nothing better i would aim for at least a 9 point cat

[icy mountain]

12-1 has more coins per clear than 11-4 right?

[jaunty vault]

can always check pins

they're about the same

[icy mountain]

okay thanks

[hushed dawn]

So uh curious question:
What vanguard ship has the highest damage AoA barrage?

[atomic abyss]

well my first instinct would be scylla

but it depends on how you measure highest damage

[keen sable]

purple heart

[elfin hollow]

that's not an aoa though

[atomic abyss]

do you mean highest individual barrage or over the course of the battle

[soft raft]

Dont really know and frankly dont really care
You shouldnt be focusing only on AoA for how good a ship is anyways

A ship could have the most cracked AoA known to man and be categorically dogshit in every other aspect

[elfin hollow]

i wish neps were good...

[hushed dawn]

Hmmm, that's a fair point. How about like burst vs sustained battle?

[atomic abyss]

long term battle, most likely scylla, cos she can spam hers repeatedly and fairly quickly with a DD gun

[frank pulsar]

shima aoa should be pretty good too

[soft raft]

depends on the content

[atomic abyss]

the issue is for singular aoa

[soft raft]

like Scylla's AoA is stonks for mobs but kinda eh on bosses

[frank pulsar]

uh, i think kawa also aoa dps

[atomic abyss]

i'm almost certain some CBs and CAs have very high aoa damage

it's just that, fire rate

[cobalt rapids]

kawa is skill barrage not aoa

[atomic abyss]

OH WELL WIKI TIME

[keen sable]

considering if you put all trash gear on scylla and she still does massive damage yeah probably scylla

[jaunty vault]

jervis/plym/shima

[hushed dawn]

Scylla with 76mm goes nuts.

[jaunty vault]

nvm wiki doesnt have scylla numbers

[atomic abyss]

jervis sounds right

[jaunty vault]

talk about snail

[keen sable]

but not against heavy

[frank pulsar]

riceist barrage page should have aoa numbers for all ship

[jaunty vault]

heavy is shima

[jaunty vault]

i aint using my brain more than i want to

[atomic abyss]

ok guys

[atomic abyss]

now... just hear me out for oneeeeeeee second

and proceed to start laughing now

[jaunty vault]

stats matter

[steady beacon]

Ngl, reading that with no context was... something...

[jaunty vault]

also that page hasnt been updated with newer ships in eons

[keen sable]

then divide by the 125s needed for ca aoa's trigger and

[atomic abyss]

i mean yeah, that was my point

i did have some suspicion that some CA/CB might have high base aoa damage
just lol the rof

[midnight mortar]

How good Is North Carolina augment?

[atomic abyss]

a huge improvement for a shit ship
she goes from T5 to T3? or something

[cobalt rapids]

big upgrade to norcal, but norcal was at the bottom before

[soft raft]

moving up from bottom of the barrel to the middle of the barrel doesnt really mean much in the long term

[atomic abyss]

don't worry the numbers get funnier when sorting class AoA for heavy damage

i never thought i'd see the day an american DD be good at torps...

[atomic abyss]

neptune was next actually

[jaunty vault]

not suprised

[keen sable]

quantity over quality

[forest palm]

not like USS DDs were bad with torps just painfully average

[atomic abyss]

this is a very good example of how just looking at numbers do not paint an accurate picture

[steady beacon]

Just put double oxytorp on Laffey, manual, and have a blast
She still loses to Shima, mind you, but y'know... it's not that bad

[jaunty vault]

yes and we should stop getting excited over the numbers lest some lurker gets the wrong ideas

[atomic abyss]

in practice... just say scylla i suppose

[keen sable]

facetorp that aoa

[steady beacon]

Actually, Ender have you ever seen
Scylla or the J-class' AoAs

[forest palm]

facetorping in the year of 2024...

[jaunty vault]

frfr

[steady beacon]

Oops, was I not supposed to

[keen sable]

trieste is a fine ship

[forest palm]

if you're a filthy manual player

[atomic abyss]

uh, which j-class

[jaunty vault]

yes

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.netojuu.com/images/9/9c/Bullet_pattern_skill_21072.gif

cos chief this is the j-class barrage

[steady beacon]

... Sorry, in my mind, I acknowledge only two J-class ships
The two natural golds

[forest palm]

further deny Javelin's existence tbh

[atomic abyss]

javelin's im very familiar with
janus' isn't on the wiki it seems

[steady beacon]

Come back with your 100% consistent full auto comp against RodM and then we can discuss why manual is bad

[forest palm]

I don't have to, because I afk, and don't give a fuck

[steady beacon]

https://pasokau.com/wp-content/uploads/skllgif/特殊弾幕-ジェーナスII.gif
Here's Janus' (Jervis is similar enough for this to basically be the same)

At the time it was released, the two had the highest single shot power AoA in the entire damn game
Then Scylla went and basically doubled them for laughs...

[atomic abyss]

on the other hand, i CAN give you an answer for the worst aoa...

sims class has the same barrage as j-class
and my notes say sims class is the worse so

[forest palm]

doesn't Eldridge have a weird barrage

[atomic abyss]

eld has a very cool looking one

https://azurlane.netojuu.com/images/2/22/Bullet_pattern_skill_29022.gif

[steady beacon]

Damn, that looks like a Touhou bullet pattern

[atomic abyss]

i'd still say it's more likely to hit than the sims class barrage tho

i mean there WAS a reason people thought eldridge was good

[forest palm]

also I'm reminded that the Class of DD Eld comes from is huge

[wispy pendant]

Should I get rid of my zero limit break low oil ships, feels like low oil farming is a meme no longer ever desired.

[atomic abyss]

Values listed below assume the entire barrage hits an enemy. Some ships with seemingly high barrage damage may in fact deal less in actual combat due to the nature of their barrage. Eldridge's, for instance, fires in a radial pattern instead of frontal, which has a chance to miss more enemies and decrease its actual damage value.

this is, literally on the wiki page of barrages

[plain saffron]

very annoying to make one

[hushed dawn]

I'm gonna go level up Eldridge just to use this barrage. That's sick as hell.

[atomic abyss]

the funny thing is

[steady beacon]

Yep
Whenever I try to perform calculations, trying to figure out what to scale the AoA down to always trips me tbh...

[frank pulsar]

scylla barrage is pretty good looking too iirc

[keen sable]

low oil has always been a meme

[atomic abyss]

people actually gambled pvp with that skill

[steady beacon]

Yep, I've heard the legends

[atomic abyss]

and yes, it was surpsingly effective...

[tame jungle]

taking into account accuracy, would flapjack +13 outperform the fuckwolf at +10?

(against heavy armor ofc)

[cobalt rapids]

yes, it could even outperform at +10 assuming u get a an extra concealed strike due to aa

[tame jungle]

right, thanks

[atomic abyss]

it just never was meta in EN cos we didn't see the sowa meta for very long (eldridge was their counter)

amagi dropped 3 months later

[steady beacon]

And it was an IJN world basically until the Italian Renaissance, or so they tell me

[keen sable]

it's fock(e)...

[atomic abyss]

sowa is sodak washington yes
yes it's wasd i know

wash never got an aug did she
unlike her sisters

[steady beacon]

Not yet, no

[inner delta]

ender, someone's complaining to me that you being a grandpa and making this too much casual talk

do stop and #al-general

or like again go to thread, this apply to everyone that want to just being old and reminicent. Don't make me remind you again that this will be warnable as off topic chatter

[elfin hollow]

is marco polo still decent for opsi mob?

[cobalt rapids]

sure

[frank pulsar]

is guam gun +10 or agir gun +13 better

[atomic abyss]

opsi mobbing is just low pressure enough for a lot of things to work

[elfin hollow]

idk what to use, now i use indy unicorn aquila

[cobalt rapids]

i would stick to that fleet then

[atomic abyss]

as long as your frontline is doing their work and nothing goes too far behind yeah that'll be fine

[elfin hollow]

is the coin difference between 13-4 and 13-3 worth the extra mob fight?

[cobalt rapids]

yes its better coin/oil

[elfin hollow]

i use unzen shima hindy for mob

hindy does the heavy work for boss nodes

[sweet delta]

much better coins per morale and better coins per oil

Maybe, idk

[atomic abyss]

yeah then shd be no issue unless auto AI gloriously fucks up

[sweet delta]

But 13-4 has two out of ammo mob battles

[elfin hollow]

i've swapped my farming spot from 12-4 to 13-3 while i'm leveling north carolina, seems to work quite well

is it worth to raise muse, chan or collab characters to lv120/125 for any reason except waifu?

like, is there any benefit out of doing it?

[cobalt rapids]

when lacking better options

[steady beacon]

Chan? Probably not unless I'm forgetting someone...
Some muse and collab can be made to do various useful things

But whether those are useful to you is another story entirely

[elfin hollow]

i kinda want to raise shinano-chan because of the 9 planes loadout, idk, for collabs i want to raise ikaruga yumi fubuki and asuka

[sweet delta]

The 9 planes load out doesn't make her good

[elfin hollow]

and for muse i wonder if formi is any good for mobbing due to her preload

[hushed dawn]

Ryza and Gridman fleets are fun to use but that's about it.

[sweet delta]

Good for opsi mobbing but Aquila is already in your fleet and better

[cobalt rapids]

formiuse and and akamuse good for opsi mobbing but u alr got a good opsi

[elfin hollow]

wouldn't the gridman preload CV be better than aquila?

[sweet delta]

Same

[elfin hollow]

then how about akagi muse for staggered damage?

something like akagi muse unicorn formi muse? idk

[cobalt rapids]

its an option but not one that boosts from ur indep aql uni fleet

[elfin hollow]

she has the torp barrage 10s after the airstrike so the damage would keep going

[civic cipher]

What are good Iris Libre and Vichya Dominion vanguard ships?

[elfin hollow]

brest marseillaise guichen

[steady beacon]

I mean, sure... but uh
Haven't you already basically got that in Indy/Uni/Aquila as-is?

[sweet delta]

jeanne

[elfin hollow]

idk i kinda feel like indy doesn't really do much in the fleet

[atomic abyss]

saint louis and jeanne too

[sweet delta]

Because the battle ended?

[elfin hollow]

for boss nodes mostly

[steady beacon]

Isn't that because your massive number of preloads murders everyone

[elfin hollow]

the battle keeps dragging on for some reason, or rather i feel like it goes on and on for too long

[civic cipher]

Do I have to research Saint Louis first before Brest?

[sweet delta]

Do you put a hvarcat on independence?

[elfin hollow]

i used to use nj there and it was better than that idk

[silver lintel]

Lusty muse for w15 support

[atomic abyss]

if you alr have the iris tech, nah

[keen sable]

no but...

[elfin hollow]

i use flapjack and 4 torps black plane

[jaunty vault]

doesn't matter as long as you get the tech points for breast

[elfin hollow]

i have only 1 hvar plane and i use it on kearsarge

[cobalt rapids]

a good bb deals indeed better with stronghold bosses but a good cv fleet can deal with em and be fast

[sweet delta]

Well of course a rainbow BB makes the fleet stronger. The point of using triple carrier is faster battles while still being string enough for stronghold

[civic cipher]

The other option I got is Suffren, Kersaint and Le Triomphant so Im not sure who can fill for third vanguard slot

[silver lintel]

I use mob fleet for strongholds 🙂

[elfin hollow]

i also thought of using perseus instead of aquila to have better odds of surviving vs the last stronghold boss

[frank pulsar]

do we still not have any news on the meta dock space?

[keen sable]

anything works on 12

[wispy pendant]

Once you grind 15-4 to safe, is it auto searchable and auto battle?

[soft raft]

if you're doing Brest CDC 2, it doesnt matter, just throw together three applicable ships
Tho Le Trio has DD FP tech

[steady beacon]

Other thing which I don't want to hesitate to point out
Keeping Indy in Operation Siren (and taking a spot in the mob fleet for that purpose, at least)
Allows her to provide Supporting Wings for your CV boss fleet

[sweet delta]

Since you haven't enough wyverns , triple carrier isn't as effective as it can be for opsi mob

[elfin hollow]

i got 5 wyverns or 6

[steady beacon]

Unless you happen to have a dedicated cross-fleet fleet to put her into

[elfin hollow]

however i thought the black plane is better because of the efficiency buff

[sweet delta]

Then why indep using skypirate

[steady beacon]

Not at all

[elfin hollow]

idk, i thought its better

[sweet delta]

Worse damage and no interception

[elfin hollow]

as for fighter i use pancake

a sec i will post fleets

[sweet delta]

Flapjack is OK

[cobalt rapids]

preferably rocket planes like bf109 or hvar on indep

[civic cipher]

Suffren it is, since Im using Marseilles and Jeanne

[elfin hollow]

anything i should swap around?

i use helena meta because i got triple twin457 setup

idk if kirov meta would work better than her

[steady beacon]

An elegant weapon for a more civilised age
Hmmmmm... you don't have Guam available, out of curiosity?

[elfin hollow]

and for the 2nd fleet idk who to use instead of enty, i have guam

[cobalt rapids]

avp

[elfin hollow]

she's at 2 stars though, i can mlb her but i would run out of bulins for now

[steady beacon]

Ah
And ye, AvP

[cobalt rapids]

dont

[elfin hollow]

would avp be stronger than enty?

[soft raft]

different uses

[elfin hollow]

i use a fast enty loadout to abuse her reload, i have the slow from impla if anything

the abyssal fights end at the first airstrikes

[steady beacon]

It's more that the stop is a wonderful thing, really
And AvP's damage is very solid, mind you

[wispy pendant]

Who are in the “best” sub fleet now?

[elfin hollow]

and what planes do i run on her, rocket AP, helldiver ryuusei? i don't have enough tenrais

[cobalt rapids]

trading her lower potential dmg but freezing the enemy would indeed be stronger than enty and york whiffing partly

[atomic abyss]

flasher alba archer

[atomic abyss]

what you run on avp depends on who you're syncing her with and what they have

[cobalt rapids]

planes depend on timing for cvs when u run slowers like implac and avp

[atomic abyss]

with avp, your margin of error IS smaller tho

[elfin hollow]

wouldn't avp be wasted with york2 and kearsarge due to the latter firing at different times?

[wispy pendant]

Is it flasher archer and alba? Who is flag?

Okay, archer flag, fish pack. Got it.

[cobalt rapids]

kear might sync partly but even if not not a big loss

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I put Archer flag pretending I will notice the small slow tied to her second round of AoA torps

[elfin hollow]

so what do i change from my fleet

avp instead of enty and?

[steady beacon]

The rest is fine for now

[elfin hollow]

i don't have musashi and vanguard, uvh and guam are 2lb

[cobalt rapids]

thats it

i dont think it matters much since im hoping the fleets are alr harbiter capable

[elfin hollow]

i can clear strength in 3 shots

[cobalt rapids]

so yea

[steady beacon]

As long as you can clear, that is all that matters

[elfin hollow]

however i have a bit of an issue with some meta bosses

like gneisenau/scharnhorst, idk how to 1shot them

[cobalt rapids]

meta bosses use different fleets from opsi

[steady beacon]

Eh, META bosses are... an entirely different kettle of fish...

Just bring your beautifully synced OpSi boss fleet to RodM and see what happens

[elfin hollow]

also for aquila, what do i run, 2 cata or cata beacon

is it worth the extra 4% faster strike or not

[cobalt rapids]

since ure running her in prel mode then u wont see a 2nd strike from her on most mobs and on bosses it doesnt do anything

[elfin hollow]

ok so avp fires at 21.56, york2 at 21.59

i guess i succeeded in making them sync

[atomic abyss]

that sounds about right

[cobalt rapids]

if its on calc and not ingame where it doesnt take avps rld skill into account then its fine

[elfin hollow]

wait i forgot about the reload

if i change the plane to ju it's still 21.56, the irony

[forest palm]

that doesn't sound right...

[atomic abyss]

there are 2 kinds of Jus...

[cloud fractal]

Do we use cubes on research or nah?

[steady beacon]

Only if you have a LOT of cubes to spare

[atomic abyss]

and when we say a lot, like well in excess of 400

[sweet delta]

I do, but that doesn't mean you should

[steady beacon]

(At least assuming these are the "normal" cube researches... if it's the crazy 30 min ones... I'd be kinda tempted ngl...)

[cloud fractal]

It’s one of those gold ones for random blueprints and gold retro. It wants 10 cubes lol. My knee jerk reaction was no. So this confirms that.

[forest palm]

just say junkers next time

[jaunty vault]

Junkers ju-87 D4

[steady beacon]

Junkers Ju-87C

[atomic abyss]

i mean in all honesty, why not

they are faster than the helldivers and aren't that much worse unlike other options

[willow dust]

hey question what's the difference between a map logger and a siren logger

[sweet delta]

Yellow chest vs red chest

[steady beacon]

I mean, I'm pretty sure I did do it once on AvP for some stupid finicky timing thing lol
The plane slots you'll sabotage for a sync sometimes...

[atomic abyss]

in fact i actuallly vaguely remember the stukas being slightly better than helldivers vs light....

though they are more inaccurate tho
like 5 bombs instead of 3

[steady beacon]

Uh, assuming I'm not misinterpreting
The map/coordinate logger spawns a "hidden zone" that you can clear for quite a good bit of loot
Siren logger spawns an "Abyssal zone", which contains a single (relatively) difficult boss, that you can defeat for... I would say somewhat better loot

[crimson glacier]

stukas bad

[willow dust]

no this is what i meant
that's for this

time to clear all of this

[atomic abyss]

i mean, it's free loot so

[novel condor]

free opsi parts

[steady beacon]

I'm always happy to see that because it means sweet, sweet gold plates

Alas, most of my month, there are none

[willow dust]

actually is 118/135/133 good enough adaptability to clear all the loggers?

[atomic abyss]

you are probably not clearing abyssals with those...

[inner delta]

can, depend on fleet

[jaunty vault]

depends on your fleets

[inner delta]

UR spam def clear, even with lower adapt

[atomic abyss]

well you should get enough adapts by clearing everything else so...
just leave the abyssals for last?

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhh... the hidden zones sure
Abyssals... will depend on fleet, yes
Probably don't walk into an Arbiter like that, though

[willow dust]

are the abyssals the siren loggers?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[inner delta]

ya

[atomic abyss]

the nodes with the red boss symbol, yes

[willow dust]

ok thank

[worldly pewter]

i d walk into the arbiter at that tuning but not the abyssal

[jaunty vault]

bros got inverse adapts

[steady beacon]

Ngl, now you've got me contemplating doing a month where I get tactical and offensive adapts max, but keep my survival one low just to see what is the theoretical upper limit for damage done in 1 min 30 sec...
Bugged shield Feb Strength was kinda fun for basically that reason...

[worldly pewter]

this is kinda hard for my smol brain

[jaunty vault]

same

[steady beacon]

Full explanation here would probably get me kicked so I will refrain 👀
Suffice to say, it is objectively not important

[glacial heath]

is there a guide showing which ships to go for specific tats, like rld for av/avl?

[atomic abyss]

? do you mean for enhancing or

[glacial heath]

for fleet tech

[steady beacon]

Is this a tech question

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[atomic abyss]

so it seems

[steady beacon]

Well, it doesn't guide you, to be fair, but uh... you can see who gives what tech all in one place there

Which tech you choose to raise is to some degree an individual choice, but I think it's generally well-accepted that BB and CV RLD is nice to raise, because it allows you to do things that would otherwise be impossible

[worldly pewter]

why sam guide doesn't have royal navy tech guide ?

[wind hazel]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

this for easier filter too

[soft raft]

Because British tech isnt that hard to come by compared to Iron Blood?
And there's no High prio British research ship worth rushing towards in the early game like Iron Blood does with FdG?

[atomic abyss]

and it can be surprisingly hard to get enough tech for ancho early on

i mean, are there any high prio HMS PR ships at this point?

i mean there is the one notable DR

but that's the problem

[soft raft]

Not really tbh
Drake is good but CBs and Hindenburg are a thing
Chesh if you need AA but otherwise she's basically on the same level as Portland
Monarch got crept by Hood w/ Aug and Nelson Kai
And Neptune is just there

[steady beacon]

Instructions unclear, I went for an HMS DR but she didn't wow me as much as expected

[viscid swift]

coming soon tm

[forest palm]

just get HMS ships an MLB, so simple

[haughty dust]

How do you even clear all of those?

[atomic abyss]

that's what the AP boxes are for

[jaunty vault]

turn on strategic search and go be productive

[willow dust]

oh yeah question
is the best way to do the logger to go in auto then leave?
because it leaves some enemies alive

[steady beacon]

If it's the hidden zones, you don't really want to kill everything
Just the three uh... spawn point enemies

[jaunty vault]

a good chunk of enemies in hidden zones do not give you anything

neither exp nor resources

[steady beacon]

Uh... one to three spawn point enemies...

[jaunty vault]

so yes, auto is the best way

[willow dust]

wait does hidden search auto use the loggers?

[soft raft]

hidden strategic search does yes

[willow dust]

let's go

[jaunty vault]

you need to buy the 1k voucher item from voucher shop first

[sudden spoke]

15-3 & 15-4 help

[opaque yacht]

when's the next event and what is it

[tawny bear]

is there a chapter 15 coins per oil chart

[jaunty vault]

https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1789294398737633521

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN) on X

Dear Commander,

The "Echoes From Afar" event will be available after the upcoming maintenance. Grasp this chance to complete missions and get the limited gear.

#AzurLane #Yostar

Twitter · May 11, 2024, 2:00 PM

[soft raft]

(Note that this is a mini-event prequel, not the major event itself)

[jaunty vault]

there is one by CN in CN

etoile can link you that

[wind hazel]

#gameplay-help message

^the uh, the w15 coin/oil

[tawny bear]

thank uu

[worldly pewter]

there is no way other than using 5 golden skill books to unlock a meta ship skill ?

[viscid swift]

nope

[whole crypt]

for showdown METAs you net it back from the point ladder anyway

[worldly pewter]

[whole crypt]

15-1's XP/oil is surprisingly high...

[soft raft]

too bad that mostly means nothing when W15 is so tough that you cant afford to bring shitters

[whole crypt]

could probably bring lv115+ shitters

only leveling vanguards anyway

[cobalt rapids]

can bring 2-3 lvling ships

[whole crypt]

what sort of fleets though, and is boss done by boss fleet

[cobalt rapids]

boss is done by boss ye
i do sushi uni laffey 2

[whole crypt]

I'm kind of used to 1-fleeting for 13 and 14-1

[cobalt rapids]

1 fleeting sounds tough

[whole crypt]

not really

[cobalt rapids]

15-1 i mean

[whole crypt]

can you fit any leveling ships in boss fleet though

[cobalt rapids]

maybe 1 vang, im using full xfleet boss ( percy indep soyuz ) and it gets kinda low but soyuz gear isnt optimal coz im lazy

[whole crypt]

well if you don't get boss XP at all that tips the xp/oil by a bit

[cobalt rapids]

well yea but as long as my chips income < xp income im content

[whole crypt]

you mean more chips than XP

[cobalt rapids]

i mean as long as im not saccing xp slots that much that im overflowing on chips
also i get full cmder xp so thats also one of my main reasons

[whole crypt]

Mob: 126 (Spawn Order: 2, 2, 1)Boss: 127 (Chitose Light aircraft carrier (CVL) and Chiyoda Light aircraft carrier (CVL))

that's full XP up to... 146 with mob fleets?

[cobalt rapids]

up and including 146 yea

[whole crypt]

no difference for me then

but I guess I could move to 15-1 while I level Shinano-chan and the muses

[fringe smelt]

guys is there a place where I can find recommended teams with gear for opsi?

[cobalt rapids]

here in a thread

[jaunty vault]

the ecgc fleet building guide+equip guide would work

to an extent

[sweet delta]

which thread?

[rich zinc]

question, which map give most exp? for PR research

[fringe smelt]

is plymouth better for opsi mob fleet then for example noshiro?

[cobalt rapids]

ply is better than many including noshi but mby u dont wanna give ply to mob

[cobalt rapids]

w12+

[fringe smelt]

it's seriously hard to make fleets if you have almost every ship in the game so many possibilities so little time to think about it

[cobalt rapids]

why little time

[fringe smelt]

well time for fleet building can be spent on more effective things

[rich zinc]

12-1 to 12-4?

[cobalt rapids]

if u got every ship in the game then just
mob : uni + 2 cvs + tank + 2 dmg
bb boss : 3ur bb - aegir hind ply
cv boss : shin haku implac - guam kaza sirius
last fleet : remaining xfleets

[cobalt rapids]

any world past w12 is good but 12-1 and 12-4 got good efficienies and easy so sure

[fringe smelt]

shouldn't the mob fleet also have bb in it? like gas?

[cobalt rapids]

not necesarily
especially not gasco

[eager mulch]

wb both gasco and gasco muse

[fringe smelt]

huh? why not her I was using her for my mob opsi fleet on he as flagship till now since I got her recommended here like two years back

[soft raft]

Do you have a UR BB?
Yes: Use them over Gasco
No: Then you can prob still use Gasco, but there are still better alternatives within PR/SR BBs that compete with her

[cobalt rapids]

shes a good mobbing bb but i can imagine going through her two reload cycle slowmo every pissy mob fight

[fringe smelt]

I mean I have pretty much every ship in the game especially when it comes to UR ships

[cobalt rapids]

just skip bb and embrace 3 cv opsi mobbing

[fringe smelt]

I'm probably gonna make a thread for this so we won't spam this room with just my questions

[eager mulch]

but which 3 cvs oh great renhex

[fringe smelt]

Perfect OPSI fleets

[cobalt rapids]

||shinano percy akamu||
uni indep aquila

[fringe smelt]

let's move it to thread

[eager mulch]

preload or healquila

double preloads

[sweet delta]

Triple

Quadruple I used to use

[eager mulch]

What happened

[sweet delta]

Too many new crossfleets

[slow fox]

Yeah I used all my GenBP on Aux. Currently have 486 left over, if that matters. Enough for 3 more Rudders.

[regal blaze]

13-1 to 4 hard mode help

[gloomy mesa]

If I Retreat from this stage now, will I get the star for defeating all enemies? Or do I have to kill the flagship as well?

[rain vine]

you have to kill the flag

[sweet delta]

the flagship is an enemy

but ambushes aren't

what just happened

[gloomy mesa]

Okay. Do you guys know if I'll have to do 5-4 twice manually before I can auto it?

[sweet delta]

if you mean auto-search, then that requires clearing mode to be on. And clearing mode requires the map to be at 100%

[gloomy mesa]

Correct and do I have to hit the stage twice before Auto search works?

Or better put the map to be at 100%

[wind hazel]

clearing mode only works after 100%, which is 3 times at 5-4

[sweet delta]

i said 100%

[gloomy mesa]

Freaking hell

[gloomy mesa]

Oh wait, does that apply to hard mode as well?

[wind hazel]

apply to every map, you have to 100% it before clearing mode works

only difference is how many times you need to beat the boss

[gloomy mesa]

That's what I mean, how many times do I need to do this for 5-4 hard

[wind hazel]

[gloomy mesa]

I had hoped that that only applies for normal😭

[sweet delta]

/wiki chapter 5x

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_5
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Chapter_5_-_Glimmers_of_Rekindling

May 11, 2024, 8:31 PM

[sweet delta]

on wiki it appears like

[wind hazel]

oh interesting, hard actually only 3 times? on all maps

oh except lower maps

c4 onwards all 3 times for hard

[worldly pewter]

are there maps that required more than 4 times ?

[forest palm]

[desert tapir]

I just found 12 of these in my depot. Not sure how I got them, and it looks like they don't appear on my mass dismantle screen so before I scrap the stack does any character have a preference for one of these of the other guns?

[viscid swift]

Gangut

[wet prairie]

Is echoes from afar a new event?

[viscid swift]

yes, event prelude

[warm flax]

It's COA?

[viscid swift]

it's to run alongside the call to arms yes

[brisk dragon]

what's best stage to farm gold in ?

[eternal basalt]

It;s protected sine Gagnut NEEDS it... just need to keep 1 for her though

[desert tapir]

Thanks for confirming Haddathunder💜 Cheeky set me straight(ish) already

[peak hedge]

Hey, quick question. how do i play this game.

[viscid swift]

might want to start by giving that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[peak hedge]

huh, thats quick and easy. thanks.

also, is this game more of a easy to hard kind of progress or hard to hard. or like more medium (have to play smart) kind of game

[vagrant panther]

Is the triple 152 B-38 Mk5 a decent CL gun? On the ECTL see it as great on some CLs but it isn't consistent even on those that rely on MGM damage

[peak hedge]

i just read that and i do not want to know what it means and im scared now

[viscid swift]

you can get away with not knowing anything and clear most content but obviously knowing how the game works will make progression quicker and easier

[vagrant panther]

Basically I picked up a yellow gun, wikied it and decided to ask the folks here if I should be using it over guns haha

[viscid swift]

what do you mean not consistent, it's still a good gun one of the 2nd best permanent options

[peak hedge]

lmao

[vagrant panther]

I mean, ships like Ply and chapayev that rely on direct damage not proc speed have it listed, but I think I saw some that didn't.

[viscid swift]

such as?

[vagrant panther]

Strange. Can't find it now, think it's one of the sakura ships or dragon ships since I was outfitting something. If I find it I'll ping again

It should be consistent across all ships new and old right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[vagrant panther]

Got it. Thanks.

[keen sable]

it's bad on 3 of the first 5 CL's listed

[grim furnace]

i cant beat world 15 HELP

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /w15

[grim furnace]

okay i did that ill look through the stuff , issues are i only have liek one myvern and such

i also dont have laffey 2 or a good breats (liek print level 17)

[keen sable]

probably compromising in other areas too then

[grim furnace]

i took a half year off the game

or guam i want her she cute when she coming back

[keen sable]

it's not easy. you can post your fleet and gear choices in a thread

[viscid swift]

2 years plus after her original run at this point, so not soon

[grim furnace]

kil me nowT_T

[grim furnace]

wait wdym like screen shots

where do i put them

[keen sable]

make the thread first. then you can add anything you want

[grim furnace]

idk how to make a thread ngl

[keen sable]

but don't be like person earlier that posted 60 effing pictures of purple fleet power gear

click the 🧵 symbol

someone said you can do "/thread question" also

[grim furnace]

meow prin thread

[grizzled lion]

Javelin worth retrofitting?

[keen sable]

retrofitting one of the starters gives you free stuff. whether javelin is the one

[grizzled lion]

What free stuff? And what do I need to progress in order to receive that free stuff?

[keen sable]

you need to fully retrofit a starter for free stuff

ok maybe not. only 7 nodes

[grizzled lion]

Ah. Exam stuff that I have already finished then. Just need to work on Portland to lvl 100 for rookie exams to be completed

[keen sable]

then unless you insist on using javelin, it's not worth it

[grizzled lion]

She's being utilized. Just didn't know if she was like warspite in regards to retro not helping at all

[viscid swift]

warspite's retro does help her, quite a lot in fact

[cobalt rapids]

warspite retro is helping her its just opportunity cost for investment

[viscid swift]

it's just even with it she's still worse than many other easily available options

[grizzled lion]

Thats what I'm meaning. Someone basically laughed when they seen I had her MLB and told me not to continue her retro

[undone plover]

she is good tech at 120. so u didnt lose much by MLB. but hold off on retro

[cobalt rapids]

mlbing her is fine, youll want to do it later for her 120 tech anyway

[grizzled lion]

What is this 120 tech stuff?

And also. Should I start with the pr1 researching? Cause I just clicked on pr2 and went with it. Got the 1st 1 almost done with a full research.

[modern sandal]

when a girl gets lvl 120 they give tech points and +2 or +1 stat bonus

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research recc reading this

[undone plover]

most ships give very minor stat boosts to all your MLB ships when they reach level 120. for example warspite gives 2 accuracy to all MLB BBs. it adds up when u have a lot of correct ships at 120

[stark quiver]

is gacha french UR first time?

[undone plover]

if it turns out to be french then yes

[viscid swift]

yes

[silk sphinx]

It’s not entirely impossible it’s a multifaction event but that seems rather unlikely

[grizzled lion]

Question about that. Says to start with friederich in the shipyard. But I need iron blood tech points. I'm a little over halfway there. How would I increase that tech point intake?

[glacial heath]

where can i find when there will be a stream for an event in azur lane? is it twitter?

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

[viscid swift]

no stream as been announced yet

but follow the AL Twitter accounts, and various CN news outlets for AL if you want to stay updated

[grizzled lion]

The circle with PT in it is tech points right?

[undone plover]

if u mean this then yes

[grizzled lion]

@undone plover I'm meaning the symbols in that last link someone posted for me. But all that stuff is down right confusing me. Can't make out what it's trying to say in regards to getting iron blood tech points.

[viscid swift]

Pt stands for points from the event

Which is no longer applicable since the event is long over

[grizzled lion]

Yea. I seen that. But it's not exactly giving an idea of how to obtain IB tech points.

[undone plover]

basically u want a certain amount of tech points to "unlock" the ships in the shipyard. u get them by acquiring/limit-breaking/levelling ships to 120.
every faction has their own tech points. so u could have 1000 USS tech points and 200 KMS tech points.

[viscid swift]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[undone plover]

this guide explains how to obtain it in an easy and efficient way. check the table for KMS.

[grizzled lion]

That is definitely way easier 🤣 I was guessing obtaining ships would be a way to. Is there a guide on what factions have what ships and how to obtain each if they have a set location to grab?

[viscid swift]

^

Sam is working on adding EU, RN, and SE to that

For now you'll just have to refer to the wiki

[weary fog]

12-4 is the main farming stage in the game?

[keen sable]

it's included in 12+

[grizzled lion]

Any reason to upgrade dupes? Or wait to do that?

So just retire for the medals then

[weary fog]

for tech points, is it worth mlb SSRs that I don't really intend to use like Peter or Prinz for IB points

[viscid swift]

If you have the spare bullins sure, doubly so if they give good tech and are gonna be used for farming xp anyway

[vagrant panther]

Is it that bad? If you don't have plygun and the mle1930 it's quite close to the rest based on the description?

Though granted yes eventually I'll have to work towards outfitting the main team to mle1930s

[viscid swift]

It's not

As I said It's literally one of the 3rd best CL guns, and 2nd place is event limited

Like the only CLs that don't want it are those that can equip DD main guns

[blissful hamlet]

what's the best way to farm grey plates?

[dapper musk]

about shimakaze, why is the blue gun better than the UR gun for her? i dont see a skill she has that isnt related to torpedo cooldown

[viscid swift]

Her AoA

[blissful hamlet]

she has mega cringe gun damage, the blue gun is for her to spam aoa barrage cuz it's a fast gun

[balmy skiff]

if i'm done mlbing shimakaze,who to focus?
both unzen and laff2 don't have any lbs as of now

[dapper musk]

whats AoA mean?

[viscid swift]

Wait for the CN Anni and decide after that

[viscid swift]

All out Assault

[dapper musk]

how big is the difference between these two guns for cheshire? if its small i wont bother gear labbing

[blissful hamlet]

anyone can help?

[cobalt rapids]

farm below w13

always buy from medal
and the tedious openining boxes

[blissful hamlet]

why opening box? to scrap the gear again?

i forgot wich gear drop grey plates. is it grey and blue gear or all of them?

[cobalt rapids]

blue

[blissful hamlet]

time to buy purple box

[vagrant panther]

When is CN anniversary again?

[eager mulch]

23rd

[viscid swift]

The event will likely drop on the 23rd if that's what you're asking

[blissful hamlet]

next week

when is the stream

[viscid swift]

We don't know

[dapper musk]

should i prio putting the UR AA gun on DD cuz they cant use sextuple

[vagrant panther]

Nice

[cobalt rapids]

why cant dd use sextuple

[eager mulch]

same reason cls can’t use sextuple

(they can)

[dapper musk]

apparently low AA other than laff2

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur fleet and content

[dapper musk]

w15

[cobalt rapids]

and fleet

[eager mulch]

depends on ur fleet

[dapper musk]

cheshire shimanto plymouth laff2 guam shima is the vanguard i rmb?

out of these

[cobalt rapids]

so which ones

in laffey 2 guam shima(?) laffey 2 take sextuple

[dapper musk]

think it was
mob: laff2 shima cheshire
boss: guam ply shimanto

[cobalt rapids]

laff2 and shimanto

[dapper musk]

what to use for shima?

[viscid swift]

Twin 90mm

[cobalt rapids]

rainbow

but twin 90mm good, guam and chesire have rainbow prio, ply and shima can take twin 90m

[eager mulch]

who gets what AA gun kinda depends on what AA guns you have

[dapper musk]

ive got twin90 roomba quad sextuple

[eager mulch]

how many matters too

[dapper musk]

with excess

only limiter is 2 of the UR AAs which is max anyways i think?

[eager mulch]

I did W15 with 4 rainbows, 2 sextuples. Splitting them between the 2 fleets

[cobalt rapids]

guam,chesh - rainbow, laff2,shimanto - sextuple, ply,shima - twin 90
idk wdym by max ur aa

[dapper musk]

thought 1 UR per fleet is enough cuz range issue

[viscid swift]

preferably it would be 2

[cobalt rapids]

it compensates

[dapper musk]

ply wants twin90 over sext?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[viscid swift]

range is not an issue with the 57 vs Twin 90

[dapper musk]

ah so t90 compensate for sext range

[cobalt rapids]

no i meant 57 compensates with its way improved stats over -1 range from twin 90 mm

[eager mulch]

more damage and rld > 1 range

[dapper musk]

oh i thought it was between t90 and sext

[cobalt rapids]

for twin 90 and sexy isnt so straightforward, sextuple beats twin90 only in raw dmg but loses in rld and range is a bigger tradeoff so it depends on mount but usually ud put twin 90 since its assumed the good mounts alr took sexy and rainbow

[livid merlin]

How do I transfer ownership to someone in a brand new guild? (it got created a few hours ago)
I try to check rank but it says I need 100 guild tokens (I have 4000 but it still doesn't work)

[dapper musk]

ic, then why would cheshire take UR priority over laff2? thought laff would benefit more cuz AA skill

[cobalt rapids]

coz cheshy has 2 mounts at lower eff and laffey has 1 at higher

[dapper musk]

where do i see how many AA mounts chesh has?

[cobalt rapids]

on wiki

[dapper musk]

ah

well thx for the help

[vale spindle]

All ships have 1 by default per AA gun slot

If any of the limit break descriptions say AA Mount +1 then they get +1 on top of that

for example cheshire dev 15 says AA mount +1

[icy mountain]

is it fine if i clump together saratoga enty and indy in 1 fleet for a boss fleet?

[viscid swift]

boss fleet where

[icy mountain]

for opsci

opsi*

but i think i would need alot of syncing

[viscid swift]

well what are your other options

[icy mountain]

frankly none

[viscid swift]

you can't exactly sync Indedependence since she has a built in early strike

[icy mountain]

sad guess ill just wait to get other cvs then

[silver lintel]

Just run someone like ark royal

[icy mountain]

i dont have ark royal yet

what if i farm the war archives to get ark royal

[viscid swift]

don't, it's not worth it

[icy mountain]

i mean ill get kms ships as well if i farm divergent chessboard

[graceful meteor]

go for it, it's like 2 per day

[viscid swift]

Ark Royal doesn't drop from Divergent Chessboard though...

[graceful meteor]

oh, too bad then, if you don't have enough kms tech pts, do divergent else just campaign

[elfin hollow]

Wait for an event with special pool based gacha.

[forest palm]

which is not an uncommon event pool

[graceful meteor]

not sure if he even needs to invest in ark

[forest palm]

Ark Royal is...basically ousted at this point, especially with how readily available August is

[silver lintel]

Ark has more dmg though

[forest palm]

more damage doesn't mean much when August has a more consistent slow, and a fighter slot among other things...

[urban crag]

Are skill buffs applied before or after gear?

[viscid swift]

they include the stat boost from gear and tech

[urban crag]

Cool thanks

[void turret]

hood is better than Penn right?

[gusty olive]

Does Arbiter Strength's (hard) shield trigger every fight?

[eager mulch]

yes

[gusty olive]

pain... those shield sucks ass

[forest palm]

just punch harder

[gusty olive]

Guess I need more of those adaptive tunings things to crack harder

[forest palm]

203/203/158

[eager mulch]

156

[gusty olive]

Managed to down her to 41

My current is 173/179/170

[forest palm]

Hard Mode rewards after like 25% isn't worth stressing over imo

[verbal thistle]

Real?

[eager mulch]

I wouldn’t lose sleep over it

[gusty olive]

Guess my target is downing her to 25% for the rewards

Would be nice if I can down her to 0 ig

[forest palm]

getting full rewards for Hard Mode is nice, don't get me wrong, but if you can't do 100% of HM Bar, 25% is the best stopping point

[verbal thistle]

If I were to create a thread for help w/ OpSi fleets, should I sort my units by level or total stats?

[forest palm]

levels is fine, sort out blues, and grays

[verbal thistle]

Okay.

[gusty olive]

I can definitely say the UR BB fleet does more than my CV and META backline (which is to be expected)

[eager mulch]

when do pr seasons usually come out

[viscid swift]

early July

July 13th this year by my estimates

[eager mulch]

damn, I’m in a burg gun drought and I wanna get another one before the new season

[forest palm]

they demo'd PR6 like start of July iirc, so

[late flame]

they should do pr7 in* July
pfft dang lag.. anyways stay tuned for anouncement i guess

[verbal thistle]

OpSi Fleet Rework - Please help :3

[cloud fractal]

Fully expanding the dorm did not unlock a 2f, but I can spend 500g to unlock the second floor now, but it does not add any dorm spaces. Just for decoration it says?

[rain vine]

2nd floor gives more mood boost
nice for farming fleets

[viscid swift]

that description is false

[fluid brook]

No, second floor will double the amout of dorm slot depending in how many first floor slot you got, and second floor regen morale more faster than first floor

[viscid swift]

2nd floor will match the number of slots on the first floor but will only regenerate morale, it doesn't give XP

[cloud fractal]

Okay. But it definitely costs gems, I was under the impression, granted it could have been a false one, that just expanding the dorm with the tokens would eventually open the 2nd floor.

[eager mulch]

always been gems

[viscid swift]

you have to fully expand the dorm to be able to even purchase the 2nd floor

[cloud fractal]

Okay. False impression it is. Before I put gems in, just wanted to verify.

[eager mulch]

one of the better gem investments tho

[cloud fractal]

No doubt. You can recover a whole fleet.

[eager mulch]

whole fleet recovery so you can raw dog 12-4 that much longer

[late flame]

ok fine (its not mine btw )
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KVOhAOz9wwZK0gQON0PLJrDkPEp6vg66Fh8U2LoYG4/edit

[gusty olive]

Maybe I should slap my vanguard on 2nd floor kekw

[eager mulch]

cute virus

[gusty olive]

Last time I checked, I already 71% cdc2 for Ancho

Quite fast compared to my previous CDCs

[cloud fractal]

Whoops. Didn’t mean to respond with a sticker. But yeah I gotta get there first! Slowly pushing through 8 right now. Trying to keep up my research, but I haven’t hit a coin spike yet 😂

[left wasp]

So what does it mean on the commuity tier list when it says "research" pertaining to gear?

Like this gun for example

[fluid brook]

You must do research to obtain the gear

Altho you can craft it in Gear Lab

[left wasp]

I'm mainly concerned about the ones can't be crafted in gear lab/with opsi mats
like this one

[fluid brook]

It says it can be obtain in Gear Lab

[left wasp]

huh
weird
was referring to this

I'm assuming most BIS is from Gear Lab or events

but transitionals and more common golds and purples are viable if you don't have m

[fluid brook]

Then you need to do research, you go from the home menu > Lab > Research Academy, and you select a research in which you wanna do

[left wasp]

so the same place where you get ur research ship blueprints is also where exclusive gear blueprints are?

was wondering why that "series" thing was familiar

[fluid brook]

/research you can use this to guide yourself in what you want to get

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[left wasp]

I'm trying to get Grosse blueprints first but I'll consider doing gear research from time to time

specially when you got guns like these

[fluid brook]

You can ignore Pr2, since you can get UR gun from Gear Lab and use coins instead of BPs to dev level FdG

[left wasp]

ehh
kinda feels like I've used up all mah coins tho
whateves tho, there's a daily discount

Wonder what 4:00 AM means in Hawaii time tho (HST)

[fluid brook]

you can buy 10Bps per day, and if youre grinding w12-4 it would be more than enough to get 10k per day

[fluid brook]

i dont really know what that mean, where do you find this time?

[left wasp]

I may only be on 9-2 but I'm getting there
have played this game passively for the most part

[tropic tusk]

is Prinz Rupprecht or avp better?

[fluid brook]

not pretty sure but i think it resets 4 hours after daily reset, which for you would be 9pm, so it gonna be 1am

[viscid swift]

They literally do different things...

[fluid brook]

Both ships are different, altho will go for AvP since you can coin her

[tropic tusk]

oh yea mb how about pr or fdg

[left wasp]

Wondering who to go next after FDG
Either Plymoth or Kearsage

[fluid brook]

Fdg > (Do all of) PR4 > Ply and Kear > up to you

[viscid swift]

Might want to give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[fluid brook]

Plymoth

[tropic tusk]

kear is kearsarge?

[grizzled inlet]

Yes

[tropic tusk]

i neve need to do mp?

marco polo

[viscid swift]

She's optional at this point

[tropic tusk]

nice

[lament hazel]

any reccs

[fluid brook]

Twin 130

[tropic tusk]

wait whos stronger prinze pupp or fdg?

[fluid brook]

Whos Prince Pupp?

[tropic tusk]

her

[fluid brook]

Shes Prinz Rupprecht

[tropic tusk]

oh mb typo

damm a pr5 out class by pr2

[fluid brook]

URs getting their value diff from SRs

[tropic tusk]

oh ok

[elfin hollow]

Man that art is great

[fluid brook]

#al-general #al-art

althou i do agree, but not as great as Musashi

[tropic tusk]

is 4 of these enough?

[fluid brook]

depends, if you have one per BBs that you use; good enough, if below that your gonna be switching shells

[lament hazel]

Ey yo guys which proto weapons is the best here?

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[fluid brook]

Twin 130, Bfg, or Chappy gun

[lament hazel]

BFG? Chappy Gun?

Need more spefic terms, never know what those are 🤷‍♂️

[fluid brook]

Messerchmit 109G, Triple 152mm

[lament hazel]

noted

[viscid swift]

They all do different things, if you're asking which ones are worth crafting the first 2 in the first row of the first SS, the DD gun, and the CB gun

And the twin 90mm aa gun

[lament hazel]

noted

[void turret]

what's the best way to get UR ships

[tame jungle]

Save for event

[void turret]

ok

also what are snacks boosting?

[fluid brook]

It gives a boost to passive EXP gain

depending in what food you give

[tame jungle]

This is on the wiki page for the dorm btw

[misty tree]

Whats the best way to get T2 Ordinance?

[fluid brook]

grind Opsi, buy it from shop

[misty tree]

How many can i guarantee? I just need 1 for this CL gun

[steady beacon]

Just generally farm OpSi really
Hidden/Abyssal/cat nodes all have a chance to get them
And ye there are 6 I think per month guaranteed in shop

[fluid brook]

Did you check shop?

[misty tree]

I cleared the shop

[fluid brook]

grind hidden and pray it drops

[blissful hamlet]

from my records it's 20-30 per month if you did everything right

[steady beacon]

According to the wiki (although I genuinely can't remember perfectly to confirm) Abyssal 6s guarantee a T2 ordnance
Everywhere else (apart from the shop) is pure chance, though

[steady beacon]

Do you keep records on gold plate numbers?

[blissful hamlet]

see the notes when I spent the plates and change focus

before january I focus on planes plate on daily raid and guild shop

[steady beacon]

Your record keeping is more meticulous than I ever could hope to be

[blissful hamlet]

:ranchSexNerd:

[sullen creek]

Serenity smart

[whole crypt]

record of gold plates = "I have too many torp plates"

[blissful hamlet]

they should release magnetic torps with non magnetic damage so that I could spend those plate

[whole crypt]

nothing wrong with mag torps with mag torp damage

[steady beacon]

Surely you spent some gold plates on Mk IXs though