gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

better than the chances of waiting for 15 catapult prints from an archive stage

[elfin hollow]

I think it’s actually 25 which is quite a bit

[atomic abyss]

lol no

[eager mulch]

too late, i turtled you

[elfin hollow]

Are any of the war archive ships that you earn actually useful

[atomic abyss]

the issue is that gold BPs only drop on boss stages or elites

[eager mulch]

Jda good

[atomic abyss]

and the only other war archive ships of note, are the KMS ones that can be used for faction tech to unlock fdg/agir

[viscid swift]

aside from JDA, U-37, and the IB ships for tech no

[eager mulch]

That one IJN dd I forget her name

[elfin hollow]

Okay. What about Litorrio.

[atomic abyss]

utter trash

[viscid swift]

outside of them the WAs are just for colleciton/completion

[atomic abyss]

pizza was already questionable back in the day, and the augment only fixed the worst part of her kit

even amongst italians, VV and Marco are tough competition for her

[misty tree]

What about the war archives with auxiliaries

[atomic abyss]

and ofc that's ignoring aquila herself

[atomic abyss]

tldr, not worth to farm gear from archives

[whole crypt]

rudder is 25 because it's research gear

[viscid swift]

I don't particularly consider them high priorities

[atomic abyss]

frankly, i think you get more cata BPs from research

[elfin hollow]

How tf do you have 160 designs for gold catapults.

[viscid swift]

playing the game for years, that's how

[keen sable]

I pity the fool that doesn't have 301 designs

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure myself actually, don't think catapult prints drop from research

[eager mulch]

something something suchiguma’s rudder bps

[whole crypt]

wait till you see my rudder print count

stigma probably has more than me

[viscid swift]

you'll get more than enough catapults in time, no point sacrificing, oil, coins, and XP to farm them from a stage

[whole crypt]

more importantly a shitty stage

[eager mulch]

#trophy-room message found it

[whole crypt]

that's not too bad I thought he'd double my count or some shit

then again he's probably got more rudders than me as well so that adds another bunch

[eager mulch]

They do

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1234436882369351690/image.png?ex=663f3aef&is=663de96f&hm=33d20c31380d7ee9427de4a84ed70836461d651070c532888e62f4ff830bcd36&

[forest palm]

waste of depot space

[sweet delta]

~~jk it's not me ~~

[cobalt rapids]

was about to say

[whole crypt]

wasn't that mebot

how the hell do you even get that many aux plates

[summer sable]

Is the North Carolina augment good

[sweet delta]

A huge upgrade to NC

Just note that NC was the worst SR BB two days ago

[cobalt rapids]

prob possible in 3 years if using all selectors on aux

[whole crypt]

a pretty big improvement to NC with questionable use

[tame jungle]

Not worth using unless you love her

Waifu > meta

[sweet delta]

I could have 57 +13 rudders if I spent on nothing else, and I never chose aux plates

[whole crypt]

I counted 41 pieces of +13 gold gear and 4 +13 rainbow, I guess it's roughly that ballpark

[polar raft]

Is she worth the grind?

[cobalt rapids]

wdym just play normally and ull get her

[whole crypt]

unless you're not grinding at all shouldn't be too hard to get her within 12 days

[polar raft]

Is she good? Perchance?

[soft raft]

Very 🛌
Get her? Good for you
Don't get her? You're not missing much

[whole crypt]

pretty much collection only but unless you're just slacking the dead week off you should get enough points

[keen sable]

Good shinano Chan spee baD

[whole crypt]

but yeh if you want an actual number it's like 6 runs of ch12 a day and you're mostly there

[sullen creek]

Is Vanguard's 10% debuff from S2 an InjureRatio?

[eternal basalt]

6 x ch 12 is a lot though

[thorn tartan]

when does the next event start?

[eager mulch]

23

[thorn tartan]

2 weeks of chill then

[eager mulch]

2 weeks to quadruple my cubes

[grave mica]

What would be better: using 2 specialized bulins to get my NJ to 5 star, or using them to get my shima to 6 stars?

[cobalt rapids]

waiting

theres a new ur expected at eom

also dont partial lb ships till u have 4 UR bulins on hand

[jaunty vault]

what are you cooking

[sullen creek]

Coping if I had her I can get 500k+ Unzen vs Rodney META

[jaunty vault]

kekw

who would you replace though

[sullen creek]

[jaunty vault]

[tame jungle]

it's worth it to coin up PR ships and then exchange the catchup for protocore right?

[eager mulch]

depends on how badly you want the protocore

[tame jungle]

i am in desperate need of better gear

since i got like 4 years of catching up to do

[dim laurel]

How do you lvl up a cat's skill?

[eager mulch]

feed it duplicate cats

[dim laurel]

OH ok ty

[sweet delta]

7 with ammo, including a large main and two bosses. Max lethal but clearing mode so no . has augment but her heal and barrage never activated due to 🍝 so Shimanto should have been like 80%+ hp. Single fleet tests are useless anyways, I'm going to compare NC to pain or illustrious

[serene moth]

how good are queen elizabeth meta?

[sweet delta]

Near top gold BB

[serene moth]

so one of the better metas?

[sweet delta]

top gold BB is worse than second worst rainbow BB

The gold metas are the better metas

Qem and rodm are the best gold BB/BC metas

[cobalt rapids]

did u mean clearing mode yes no scv or clearing mode no yes scv

[sweet delta]

Read again, I deny any mistakes

[round hare]

After FdG should i go for Agir? Or anchorage would be higher priority considering i have 0 ships developed after pr1

[tame jungle]

anchorage is really good i think

• you can probably get her up to dev30 a lot earlier, ships not maxed devlvl are pretty useless

[soft raft]

you'd want to do all of PR4 anyways but Ancho is a good first start

[sweet delta]

NC augment requires her to equip a fuse gun despite the skill description implying otherwise in both CN and EN

[worldly pewter]

depends on ur tech

[cobalt rapids]

you had fuze on modney?

[round hare]

Right, and just coin her till daily discount?

[rain vine]

usually 10/day

[soft raft]

10 per day yeah
any further and it gets quite more expensive for what it's worth

[thorn tartan]

maybe i'll use this chill time to finally figure out this cat thing

[gloomy mesa]

Besides Helena and unicorn, are there any other ships worth buying in the guild shop?

[round hare]

Do u think it will worth 10+/day when i have 40k oil and 12-4 daily farm

[soft raft]

Pennsylvania and Portland if you havent got them already

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#guild

[soft raft]

no
doubling your total coin expenditure to save like 20 days isnt really worth it

[gloomy mesa]

Both at 5*

[round hare]

Fair

[thorn tartan]

Just pick up ones you don't have for tech maybe, if you have the dock space.

[worldly pewter]

remember an UR pity is 300k coins

[thorn tartan]

300k? in addition to the pity requirements?

[worldly pewter]

this game is kinda of coin nightmare

[soft raft]

200 event pulls equates to 300k cubes worth of pulling costs

[thorn tartan]

i feel like coin is pretty well balanced with the other currencies. pretty amazing actually

[gloomy mesa]

Chang chun good why?

[warm flax]

It's lowkey hard to recover after a UR event

[soft raft]

She's one of the three DDG Retros and she provides tech points towards unlocking Harbin

[thorn tartan]

I'm not sure the reasons but I have her and she can survive well, does good damage. Good addition to any fleet. PLus I think early game she helped me meet TRP requirements for event stages.

[soft raft]

Not if you save up quite a bit and avoid doing coin researches (if you're really strapped for cash) for a bit

[worldly pewter]

for me it isn't about recovering
it is about being able to pull
this is a disaster ngl

or i will just stop putting any coins towards the research for 3 weeks

[gloomy mesa]

Oh okay

Could Chang chun replace anyone in my current fleet?

[thorn tartan]

lauffy, seems obvious

[soft raft]

not pre-retro imo

[thorn tartan]

yeah, she is expensive to retro tho

just do it

[soft raft]

you have to retrofit portland and laffey anyways for rookie missions so may as well keep them there

[soft raft]

Did you forget about the 2k Spec Core retrofit item

[gloomy mesa]

Oh okay I'll keep that in mind and use her in my second fleet (when I finally have one) go prep her for the replacement

[thorn tartan]

that's one of the reasons i said she's expensive

maybe he got the missile 1-a from the recent event?

[soft raft]

kinda doubt it
That was like 3 months ago

[gloomy mesa]

Say what, I ignored Portlands retro completely

Only been playing for 5 days, lol

[thorn tartan]

portland will tank for you up to and maybe thru W9

just retro her as you can. do unicorn too, priority

[gloomy mesa]

Well guess I messed up by going for Helena first

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Beginner_Rewards#Exam-0

[soft raft]

no not really
Helena/Portland, Laffey, and Unicorn take different retrofit blueprints

[thorn tartan]

you can't really mess up much in this game. it just takes a little longer. you get lots of ships and gear eventually, more than you can use

[gloomy mesa]

Hmm 🤔 who did I wast the blueprints on instead!?

[worldly pewter]

i think helena and port take the same bp
the x-2 ones

[gloomy mesa]

Yeah

[soft raft]

oh right
but yeah you didnt really waste much resources

[thorn tartan]

it won't matter. portland and helena both good early game. helena is good late game too

[worldly pewter]

i saw here that the x-2 bp are never enough so i did 11-2 for 2 months

and nothing else

[thorn tartan]

portland gets replaced after a couple months.......

[soft raft]

that's pretty true but after a while you eventually just build up stockpiles

[gloomy mesa]

Currently all I've been focusing on is getting the retro for unicorn and laffey done

[wraith oyster]

How often can you clear opsi?

[soft raft]

Eh she can still see active use until you start fielding Anchorage and the CBs if you dont get any event ships that can fufill her role

[soft raft]

it resets every month if you already cleared the practice arbiters

[wraith oyster]

How much time commitment is clearing it every month

[worldly pewter]

do u know how the 3★ a hard map with only 1 entry ?

[soft raft]

Kinda hard to quantify that but it shouldnt really take tooooo long

[gloomy mesa]

That's possible!?

[thorn tartan]

i unlocked Roon while waiting for tech for Anchor. So Roon replaced Portland. Portland became 2nd fleet tank. Then you get more PR tanks so now I have lots of tanks.

[soft raft]

Yeah
if you retreat before you go fight the boss, it doesnt take up a attempt
People do this to cheese the "Kill all enemies" requirement

[wraith oyster]

I've been avoiding opsi pretty much since i started and am pretty clueless about the entire thing

[worldly pewter]

after clearing the map it will go to auto farm mode automatically so u have to disable it

[iron ridge]

None so far.

[thorn tartan]

after a while, you will only use auto to farm opsi.

[iron ridge]

But you mean if you clear the map and you go clearing mode?

[soft raft]

Clearing mode in hard mode only spawns the boss

[iron ridge]

Ye

[rain vine]

you mean the "Kill X escort fleets" requirement?

[thorn tartan]

yeah, that one

[soft raft]

ah yeah that too

[opaque yacht]

is the support towel worth buying

[thorn tartan]

not sure but it's a limited item so i'd get it regardless

[soft raft]

highly doubt you'd ever use it but better to get event gear and not need it later than to skip it then need it later

[gloomy mesa]

She just dropped in a stage, she any good?

[soft raft]

Garbage

[rain vine]

you dont need to do the leave strat for the kill all enemies
just killing the boss in clearing mode finishes "Kill all enemies"

[thorn tartan]

i didn't know that. not sure it makes much difference.

[soft raft]

Right
kinda got those mixed up lol

[gloomy mesa]

Nice

Feels like every ship I pulled sofar or dropped on me is garbage,lol

[soft raft]

a huge majority of map drop ships are like that tbh, that's pretty much the norm

[rain vine]

i mean, your mob fleet doesnt have to do anything
just make sure your boss fleet can clear

[thorn tartan]

well for a new player, she might be good. i never pulled her early. you will limit break her up at some point anyway probably

[gloomy mesa]

Hard enough to lvl one fleet, how the heck do you guys do so for multiple ships

[soft raft]

there are better alternatives to Exeter for low budget shitter CA

[inner delta]

even for a new player exeter isn't that great

[soft raft]

by getting to W9 and unlocking oil cap then grinding out a 2nd fleet there

[rain vine]

throw em in dorm

[thorn tartan]

you already have your vanguard. work on getting them to 120

[inner delta]

like the setup sam wrote is like the best setup for new player until they got better stuff

[thorn tartan]

when i was new, i really needed some good TRP ships to meet the event stage requirements. Chang Chun and Z1 helped I think.

[gloomy mesa]

Is there a way to get any more outh Rings f2p or do I need to pay?

[thorn tartan]

you get them over time i think, rare tho

[inner delta]

it's just from dev, pretty rare most of them need to buy

[gloomy mesa]

Guess I'll wait for an amazing waifu First, one that I will use until late game

[inner delta]

yea

[soft raft]

Just oath waifu tbh
Doesnt really matter how good they are

You only tatical oath if you can afford to 💳

[thorn tartan]

i used my first one on fdg

[gloomy mesa]

What's the point if I can't look at them all day

[cobalt rapids]

you can look at them all day if u set em as secretaries

[rain vine]

unless you aim to oath 6+ ships, you dont really have a choice
also see above

[gloomy mesa]

Want to waifu one of them, how long will that take?

[rain vine]

however long it takes you get their affinity to 100

[thorn tartan]

oath is a minor thing, like cats

right now, you just need to level your ship and work on getting better gear

[cobalt rapids]

cats are a minor thing like +13s

[gloomy mesa]

Well actually meant how long does it take to get them

[viscid swift]

at minimum 6 days

[cobalt rapids]

depends, some are easier to get than others due to tech availability

[viscid swift]

for a new player a month or 2 at current rates

[gloomy mesa]

Including the unlocking part?

What does that mean

[viscid swift]

nimiyes=yes

[thorn tartan]

you can't even research a research ship until you have the requisite tech level. THEN it takes at least a week to unlock the ship if you do it as quickly as possible.

THEN the research ship won't be up to full power until you get hundreds of bps to enhance the ship

[worldly pewter]

PR 4 are coinable and have a 300 print to catchup shared if u spend them all in 1 ship u can get her to max enhance in 20 days
the DR 4 aren't and will need so much coins to get them from research that is why the first thing u do is setting the focus to IV

no one knows how much it will take to max them though since it is all luck based

[thorn tartan]

I think I had all the season 4 ships done after about 6 months of playing the game..... I didn't min/max everything, just played regularly.

[cobalt rapids]

4-6 months takes a normal season assuming proper uptime and ship project focus, seasons with coining, catchup go faster

[wraith oyster]

Who are the best non-UR mob fleet cvs for OpSi besides Unicorn

[thorn tartan]

why do you need non-UR?

[rich zinc]

perseus and aquila?

[thorn tartan]

Sara is good.

[worldly pewter]

indep hiryuu

[vale spindle]

take any gold cv released in the last 2 years

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur dock

indep, impero, aquila are some of the popular picks

[thorn tartan]

that's what I use, Unicorn, Independence, Hiryuu

for fast clearing on auto.

them plus a good vanguard can handle all opsi content, except arbiter

[wraith oyster]

Making my mob fleet for OpSi, So far its Unicorn + Hood so was trying to figure out my last spot

I have both Aquila and Indep, not sure if i have a non-ur BB better than hood to use though

[cobalt rapids]

dont need to run bb for opsi mob

[worldly pewter]

if u have UR ships u can level their crossfleet skills

[thorn tartan]

BB slows down battle. Is there anyway to turn off the BB slow-mo animations?

[cobalt rapids]

u go in pvp

[wraith oyster]

How is essex?

[soft raft]

that's like a fairly obvious given since you should be maxxing out all of a ship's skills if you plan on using them

[cobalt rapids]

mehssex

[rich zinc]

[soft raft]

decent-ish
Not dogshit but you wont really be using her over other options in much content

[wraith oyster]

Pretty much my options would be
Uni-Hood-Essex/Indep
Uni-Indep-Essex

[cobalt rapids]

hood uni indep

[soft raft]

^

[wraith oyster]

NOT ESSEX SORRY

Replace essex with aquila

[thorn tartan]

IDK, do you?

[cobalt rapids]

uni indep aql then

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[wraith oyster]

Uni gets flagship?

[worldly pewter]

flagship takes more exp

[cobalt rapids]

uh doesnt matter, indep ig if u got nj somewhere

[wraith oyster]

NJ in my boss bb fleet

[cobalt rapids]

then indep

[wraith oyster]

My fleets as are-
Boss BB- BisZwei, FdG, NJ- Heinrich, Helena, JdA
Boss CV- YorkII, Implacable, Enty- Guam, Kazagumo, Sirius
Mob- Uni, Indep, Aquila- Unzen, Shimakaze, Yuudachi

[worldly pewter]

man has all the UR ships and still asking about help

[inner delta]

what's wrong with asking for help with all the UR

[worldly pewter]

i heard that this game moved to the UR meta at some point so u just slap them in and it will work

[wraith oyster]

As I stated earlier, I have avoided OpSi for a long time because it seems like lot of time commitment, but now I wanna start doing it so yes, I came to help channel to ask about OpSi help

[cobalt rapids]

dw about it, asking for help is fine irelevant of ur acc state

[soft raft]

???
Just saw this odd barrage of large-ish gold needles while doing W12 hard
here's a very shit illustration (That is prob inaccurate) of how it went because I havent been able to get it to proc since
Never seen it before

Fleet comps are Musashi/Uni/Aquila Laffey II/Yuudachi Kai/Shimanto and NJ/Yk2/Enty Ancho/Sandy Kai/Unzen

[wraith oyster]

Also, when will we know what next ur banner is

[thorn tartan]

just run your best carrier fleet, it will take care of opsi no probs

[soft raft]

what
did you reply to the wrong message

[cobalt rapids]

thats rpg aux barrage

[thorn tartan]

oh yea

[inner delta]

when the stream is on and dev announce it

[soft raft]

Ohhhhh
I think I put that on Yuudachi retro now tha tI think about it

[wraith oyster]

Yeah do we know when the stream will be

[inner delta]

not that i know off yet

[soft raft]

Call to Arms has been confirmed for next week (In JP and CN patchnotes) which implies event launches the week after

And they do streams the Friday before event week

[wraith oyster]

So 2 weeks until ur?

Begging for CL

[soft raft]

essentially yes
Nothing explicitly confirmed but at this point it's basically confirmed

[wraith oyster]

How good are the series 6 ships?

[soft raft]

Shimanto will be heavily used in W15
Kear replaces Enterprise in Opsi CV fleet comps
Hindenburg is stonks damage CA but frankly I barely use her outside of OpSI
Flandre is fairly good but like most research BBs, she has "PR BB existing in the same world as FdG/UR BB Syndrome"
And Felix is tanky DD but you prob wont ever use her

[eager mulch]

not pr4 levels stronk

[wraith oyster]

And for pr5 I know Brest and Plymouth are good but havent really looked into the other

[soft raft]

Harbin is good but she essentially got powercrept by Shimanto
Chkalov is stonks damage CV but a lack of fighter planes kinda limits her useage in later content

And Rupperchet is like Flandre

[inner delta]

not powercrept wat

[wraith oyster]

Brest more dmg focused or tank?

[inner delta]

harbin do smoke
shimanto do aa different thing

[inner delta]

tank with heal

[soft raft]

True nvm
Kinda bad phrasing there

[sweet delta]

If Harbin got power crept by shimanto, then ply got power crept by shimanto

[wispy pendant]

both powercrept by laffey2 - hiyooo

I've never heard the shimato > harbin take before

[wraith oyster]

So whats stopping her from taking agir's spot

[soft raft]

not tanky enough

[wraith oyster]

Also, whats best stage for purely farming xp to level up ships

[quiet jackal]

Whens next UR banner? Next update?

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[inner delta]

its a different way of tanking

[cobalt rapids]

depending on content she gets picked over aegir assuming u mean the tank spot

[quiet jackal]

I legit need to scroll up next time thanks xD

[cobalt rapids]

w12+

[soft raft]

Take the ships you need to level, any ships that can carry (if needed), and go grind your ass off on at least W9 or above, mainly 12-1/12-4

[wraith oyster]

Isn't 11-1 better than 12-1 for xp?

[soft raft]

on paper 11-1 has the best oil/XP ratio but it's worse in most other aspects compared to W12

[cobalt rapids]

its better xp/oil but xp shouldnt be the only metric u care about when ure using ur oil

[wraith oyster]

Im only up to 11-1 anyways sadly

[wispy pendant]

12 on easy feels easier than 11, and 12 has much better gold

also 12 drops some cogs, 11 does not

[wraith oyster]

Need to level up Aquila, Indep, Helena, Kazagumo

Not sure if I have anything better than kazagumo for my CV boss OpSi fleet honestly

CV*

[rain vine]

wouldnt move kaza from cv fleet anyway

[soft raft]

Kaza's one of the best options for a full CV fleet due to her buff skill

[wispy pendant]

Kaza is really good

[vital fable]

Who should replace my Enterprise (Boss) and Saratoga (Mob) - eventually when they can

[night pumice]

What are the recommended things gems should go to after the second dorm floor

[wispy pendant]

Boss doesn't really need replacement... you usually use what is best to clear the boss, unless you want to gain a little exp then just bring someone good enough.

Same with mob, mostly just use what you want to level up, not just a boat that is "most suited for mobs"

You'll want to have shinano and hakuryuu leveled up eventually, but they need to be max limit broken first.

Independence is amazing for cross fleet CV buff and is great at mobbing anyway.

August von Parsaval is a good CV stopper for bossing if you don't have implacable.

[wispy pendant]

save for dock space

[night pumice]

ah

how many free gems do I get over the course of the game?

[wispy pendant]

after the one time gems, very little

[night pumice]

so how many one-time gems do I get? I'm trying to see how many waifus I can oath while saving enough for dock lol

[viscid swift]

a little over 4k

[wispy pendant]

if you're free to play, never spend gems on skins and oaths, you'll need them all for dockspace

[fluid brook]

4700gems

[viscid swift]

but if you're F2P oath rings and skins are pretty much off limits

[fluid brook]

They give Free oath ring in Anni

[wispy pendant]

free oath rings are not what we're talking about

[fluid brook]

Ye but he want the gems for oathing, so i am telling him that they give 1 ring for free per year

[stone sluice]

So y'all have all anchorage skills maxed?

[soft raft]

very little reason to not have her skills maxxed

[stone sluice]

So I guess I’ll max her out

[tiny gulch]

long range AA = time fuze?

[viscid swift]

yes

[wispy pendant]

north carolina doesn't actually get good with her aug, does she?

[vale spindle]

she becomes better

[crimson glacier]

its aug not a cheat engine

[wispy pendant]

🤏

[vale spindle]

still worse than the standard gold bbs like Nelson retrofit

[wispy pendant]

in terms of using ECTL ranking as a baseline, does her aug make her better than t5? Does she up tier by one level or two, or not even an uptier?

[wraith oyster]

So i spent diamonds on dock space, got an infinite buffer and restarted the game only to have the diamonds taken but not given the dock space, any solution?

[scenic birch]

What gear is good on hindenburg

[viscid swift]

usual CA gear, and use a CA gun instead of an AA Gun in her 3rd slot if she's dev 30

[wispy pendant]

"I paused my anime to be here"

[vale spindle]

Sure

[wispy pendant]

sure is not a sufficient answer to my question..

[cobalt rapids]

shes prob a painleve sidegrade for 15 now

[crimson glacier]

that doesnt make any sense

id rather take the acv from painleve

[viscid swift]

Something Something not everyone has Painleve

Or the other CV healers

[crimson glacier]

something something if you need to use NC in w15 you wont beat it

[cobalt rapids]

[viscid swift]

I don't really lean either way TBH

If you really don't have any of the other healers then you probably have bigger issues at that point...

[wispy pendant]

so better to consider NC a weird healing BB now?

[crimson glacier]

more like trash

[viscid swift]

She's just an oddity at this point yeah

[crimson glacier]

healing BB who needs constant supply of planes

[viscid swift]

Even if she does prove a workable budget option in W15 that's about the only place she will find a use

[crimson glacier]

if theres awkward pause in planes then thats healing loss

[forest palm]

no matter how you polish shit, it's still shit at the end of the day

[wispy pendant]

i don't see the aug on the wiki yet

[cobalt rapids]

because its not added yet

[wispy pendant]

is there a google sheet for it yet? i don't want to stop my auto to look at it

[cobalt rapids]

EN description is wrong anyway

[mighty forum]

If I want to get Little Spree, should I wait for an event before the 20th, or should I just grind world stages starting now? For the sake of grinding less for more.

[viscid swift]

Just grind normally and you'll get her no issue

[cobalt rapids]

i recommend grinding every day

[wispy pendant]

is little shinana good?

[cobalt rapids]

fine as transitional cv

[viscid swift]

Besides next event probably doesn't drop until the 23rd

[wispy pendant]

one of the better purple CVs?
Are any of the lil ships unironically better than most gold ships?

[soft raft]

no not really

[viscid swift]

The former

[wispy pendant]

I think I heard lil cheshire is decent AA

[viscid swift]

In the same way Isuzu's aa is decent

[wispy pendant]

is it close to isuzu's?

[viscid swift]

No I mean she has good AA but that's all she has

She's at least not quite as squishy

[forest palm]

purple ah cringe preretro sandy

[elfin hollow]

Got another rainbow. At this rate I’ll have Kearsarge at D30 in no time.

[wispy pendant]

i didn't know people used sandy pre-retro

[forest palm]

I mean, that's all Sandy did pre-retro, she was essentially a more expensive Isuzu

[soft raft]

please dont bankrupt yourself just because funny 30min rainbow research
We have a event right around the corner and there's like a 99% chance it's gonna be a UR

and there are more suitable places to blog than here

[wispy pendant]

don't use any cubes until the event in may

just do the 1 a day light build

your future dock will thank me

I don't remember the last time I used kearsarge either lol

[late flame]

kear has her uses (challenge mode, some ex fights, opsi)
she's mostly just a more consistent replacement for enty in anti-light comps
nice to have, definitely not must have

[tropic tusk]

ur already low on cube man are u sure u want to spend all on research?

[late flame]

just save the coins and cubes tbh

[fresh tangle]

Am I missing anything for easy points here? 850 feels like a lot 😂

[soft raft]

You just MLB ships of the appropriate faction until you get enough, simple enough

[wispy pendant]

max limit break your uss map drops, you get anchorage points very quickly

[fresh tangle]

I’m not going to lie to you I’ve no idea what a uss map drop is

[wispy pendant]

uss = eagle union
map drop = ships you get from campaign

[fresh tangle]

Ah yeah. I’ve been binning them off. Time to keep them 😂

[wispy pendant]

most of these ships are map drops. You can use the wiki to see which map drops which ships

[elfin hollow]

Got another rainbow. At this rate I’ll have Kearsarge at D30 in no time.

[viscid swift]

Blogging goes to #al-general

And with your cube count I really wouldn't reccomend taking cube researches

[sweet delta]

Doesn't look like blogging

[keen sable]

fun fact. MLB all EU ships in collection rewards and you will have 666 tech points. So you are not only missing easy but good.

that's the third trophy post

[sweet delta]

Looks like reposting a blog

[fresh tangle]

Coins is the limiting factors here very quickly. Easy enough getting common ships

[fiery pelican]

Should I focus on PR5 at this point?

[viscid swift]

No, finish Haku and get your 2nd Tenrai first

[tropic tusk]

haku still has fate sim

[viscid swift]

Not like you'll be able to make much progress in PR5 anyway with PR7 due in about 2 months

That Haku isn't even Dev 30

[wispy pendant]

assuming PR7 going to be better than pr5

[fiery pelican]

Okay

Agir has no fate sim?

[wispy pendant]

not yet

[tropic tusk]

no she dont

[fiery pelican]

which one is tenrai?

[viscid swift]

Could very well be the case, you never know

[sinful escarp]

Who gets the 2 tenrai?

[dim jewel]

Guys who should I get here? Im a new player so I don't know which one should i pick

[viscid swift]

Hood

[south sequoia]

Rainbow green dive bomber

[fiery pelican]

This one? I don't even have it

[keen sable]

not unicorn or aquila so that leaves the only two remaining carriers you are using?

[dim jewel]

Thank you

[south sequoia]

You'll finish pr4 and that

[viscid swift]

One from the Prototype shop and one from research is what I mean

[keen sable]

buy it...

[south sequoia]

you would also have excess protocores to buy another tenrai from the prototype store

[wispy pendant]

one can hope, but I'm guessing newbie advice is going to remain pr4>pr5... unsure if pr7 will be better than pr6.

[viscid swift]

Like I said, you never know and we'll find out in about 2 months

[sinful escarp]

DR sub soon

[viscid swift]

Yeah no, definitely not

[late flame]

submarine support fleet for next campaign

[tropic tusk]

meta u 556 reboot when

[keen sable]

i don't think they have fake subs

[fiery pelican]

I dont have enough currency forit

[viscid swift]

They don't

[wispy pendant]

it's going to have to be something special to be more important than plymouth

[south sequoia]

Wows doesn't even have a submarine that can be qualified for pr

[south sequoia]

Have you converted all your combat data packs and excess blueprints yet?

[fiery pelican]

Do I focus buying FDG things or dev 30 mainz?

[south sequoia]

fdg

[wispy pendant]

FDG by a very large margin

[opaque galleon]

Scharnhorst augment is mid right? Because her barrage is kinda bad?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[tropic tusk]

y not just coin fdg

[keen sable]

you mean why not just coin both

[wispy pendant]

i thought that's what they meant?

[opaque galleon]

Does she fire 2 barrages in flag position?

[wispy pendant]

if you're researching PR2 or PR3 focus, you're doing it wrong. Just coin the earlier seasons

[tropic tusk]

oh i read wrong then mb

up till now i still havent finish coining my fdg shes still on fate 6 at 6%

[fiery pelican]

I mean coin FDG fate or Mainz to dev30?

[late flame]

fs6?

[wispy pendant]

FdG by a large margin

[late flame]

FdG yeah

[fiery pelican]

Okay

[tropic tusk]

been spending money to get tech point for sakura

[fiery pelican]

Okay crafted my first tenrai

[elfin hollow]

I'm late in asking but when was this a thing?

Ik ;-;

[fiery pelican]

Do I use it on Hakyuryuta whatever her name

She's not even dev 30 yet, only 22

[round hare]

How many coin does FdG takes to max dev assuming using all daily discounts

[elfin hollow]

Sucks you can’t use coins to enhance DR ships

[round hare]

Its jut more expensive no?

[elfin hollow]

Same ammount of Bps you need in bp exchange

[fiery pelican]

My planes

[south sequoia]

It's been here since a week ago

[round hare]

Wym by that

[elfin hollow]

Yeah, but I would rather use coins than weight months and months worth of research to enhance Kearsarge to development level 30.

[elfin hollow]

Is it a perm thing?

[south sequoia]

It was first implemented back during april 2022

[keen sable]

4/25

[south sequoia]

No, it's only an event

[elfin hollow]

I just unlocked guilds but the one I joined kicked me. But idk why…help plz

[south sequoia]

It'll go away soon

[keen sable]

5/15

[tropic tusk]

lets u speed up ur skill leveling thingy

[elfin hollow]

Press that and how many bps you need is how many times you need to spend in sim

[undone plover]

stick to 10 BP imo

[elfin hollow]

So I need to do 10 buys a day for 17 days ez

[verbal thistle]

Does Soyuz have crossfleet? Is it better than UVH?

[viscid swift]

Even with coining unless you're prepared to sink literally millions in just a few days it's still gonna take you the better part of 2 months

[wispy pendant]

10 bps a day

[keen sable]

just join another less snobbish one

[verbal thistle]

[viscid swift]

Yes, and they're not exactly direct comparisons

[undone plover]

Yes she does and it is generally better although UvH crossfleet also useful in certain content

[round hare]

1 bp is how many coinage

[void turret]

is there a general shop priority guide somewhere

[verbal thistle]

I'm really only using UVH for her crossfleet in hard mode stages. Was wondering if I could swap her out for Soyuz.

[elfin hollow]

Do I have to do anything except log in?

[undone plover]

2 is free per day, u should never do only 1

[round hare]

No im confused

[viscid swift]

Why not both

[wispy pendant]

nvm, i was confused soyuz with kearsarge for some reason in my mind... soyuz has a cross fleet, but UvH's cross fleet is really good

[round hare]

Does 1 buy = 1 bp?

I see

[verbal thistle]

Hard mode restrictions.

[verbal thistle]

Yeah, that's why I was wondering which was better. I think I'll just stick with UVH though.

[viscid swift]

If you need UvH's cross fleet to defend against suicide boats stick with UvH, otherwise soyuz

[fiery pelican]

I've unlocked FDG, Agir, Mainz, Haku, Achorage, AvP, Prinz Rupert. Who next to focus?

[keen sable]

you should do everything your guild has to offer because it's good for you?

[viscid swift]

Doesn't really matter at that point

[wispy pendant]

plymouth eventually

[icy mountain]

wth 6k for an enhance lmao

[fiery pelican]

637/900 haha

[keen sable]

uvh crossfleet fails at anything difficult. it's probably mostly an ops thing to assist cv fleet

[round hare]

U can spent 4.3mil coinage to instantly max out a DR

[viscid swift]

Anything else you unlock right now will be of either no use to you or no use at all period besides tech

[wispy pendant]

do you hard cap before that?

[eager mulch]

Buy coins

[round hare]

Bros speaking for the marketing team again

[keen sable]

you would need to do it in a couple of batches obviously because of hard cap

[silk sphinx]

you can do harbin (catchup 300), plymouth and brest have catchup too

you should also do some pr1-3 ship for coining

[granite snow]

Anyone do the math on how much money it would cost to buy gems and then coins to fully max a DR immediately? I'm kinda curious as to how ludicrous the number is

[round hare]

Any news for PR7

[wispy pendant]

Cheshire is good aa/tank

[fiery pelican]

I haven't completed Haku catchup xD

[silk sphinx]

no news, but it'll come july

[round hare]

Thats somewhat good news ig, more rainbow waifus

[fiery pelican]

I already switched to Shimanto because I'm too lazy to switch ships, so I can lvl the previous japan ships

[keen sable]

pr1, pr2 because you are missing free protocore

[icy mountain]

im earning like 5k per 3 runs in world 11-1 so i would need to rerun it for like 782 times to earn that much

[silk sphinx]

pr5 has catchup, so you can get those ships ready faster

[icy mountain]

lmao

[round hare]

Just do 12-4 for coin smh

[sinful elk]

Is this gun worth crafting i've seen many people use it

[undone plover]

u should only buy 6-10 per day really. anything beyond that is less ideal

[viscid swift]

Unless you have Musashi no

[round hare]

Yeah,the graph shows everything

[sinful elk]

Aight

[silk sphinx]

only if you have a built musashi

[round hare]

~~364 days free 2 buys ~~

[keen sable]

agreed, pushing fdg to 15 while doing mainz at 2 seems dumb to me. You should do both not one.

[viscid swift]

10 each a day is still quite doable

[keen sable]

i killed all my fdg prints and 2 a dayed her from D30 to fs5 now i have too much protocore

[round hare]

Wasnt that like barely 15k, u get like 5k from raids and like 8k from academy

Surely its doable

[silk sphinx]

very easily doable, the farther you get in the game the easier it becomes

you have less to spend on lbing/gear

[viscid swift]

And you can't uncap ships because no cogs...

[silk sphinx]

also access to w12

[elfin hollow]

And now I’ve got to take 6 to 9 months worth a research just to get enough to fully upgrade Kearsarge because there’s no ketchup program for PR six which is bullshit

[icy mountain]

still lvl76

cant access world 12

[elfin hollow]

Like why do you release P6? If you don’t have a catch up program for those ships like it doesn’t make any sense.

[viscid swift]

It should take 6 months max to finish an entire season from scratch without catch-up or coining

[sweet delta]

Your blogging and complaining is bullshit

[keen sable]

what are you complaining about? it takes 4 months to finish a season. and then 8 months of nothing

[vale spindle]

should be able to dev 30 all ships in the most recent season and have enough for fate sim 5 by the next time the next pr season comes out, if you started when the ships first came out

probably could fit 2 seasons worth as well

[eager mulch]

sounds like bad research selection or just blogging

[elfin hollow]

Within the last like two weeks I’ve gotten 120 extra blueprints for PR5 Brest just from research. You don’t get none of that for PR six because yeah you can focus on PR six but that doesn’t guarantee you blueprints for any of the PR six ships unless of course it has the picture of the person on the research that you’re starting. It just doesn’t make sense why they would release PR six if they don’t have a bonus blueprint thing for yet and it’s been like nine months since it’s been released so they’ve had plenty of time to implement the new catch-up for the PR six ships instead of just having people have a fat chance of getting all 400 blueprints required within a decent amount of months.

[eager mulch]

why would they release a catch-up system for something brand new

[keen sable]

decent is 4 months. you simply need to accept it

[elfin hollow]

Which memento reward should i get?

[viscid swift]

ok then, like I said if you're taking that long to finish then you're doing soemthing wrong, plain and simple

and Catchup is exactly what it sounds like, a catchup mechanic for older seasons, PR6 isn't even a year old at this point and it won't get catchup until next January in all likelihood

[elfin hollow]

I got Seattle to development level 30 within a week of obtaining her.

[vale spindle]

i like to say 6 months to account for leeway due to inactivity etc.

maybe you are broke and sometimes you can't do coin researches one cycle it happens

[eager mulch]

I got Seattle to dev30 mere seconds upon unlocking her

[elfin hollow]

Yeah because those are easy where is Kersarge just gonna take fucking forever to get anywhere yeah I got her level 84 but that doesn’t mean anything if I don’t have a development level 30 because her stats are garbage at development level 12.

[elfin hollow]

^^

[keen sable]

you're still wrong

[vale spindle]

any one that gives gems, yorktown class one for eagle union damage control

[elfin hollow]

Where do i get hornet?

[viscid swift]

any that give gems, you'll do them all in time anyway

[vale spindle]

nelson flag is fine to get as well but not that important

[vale spindle]

/wiki hornet

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hornet
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hornet/Questline
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hornet_II
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hornet/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hornet_II/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hornet/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hornet_II/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/De_Havilland_Sea_Hornet

May 11, 2024, 12:44 AM

[vale spindle]

*the original hornet, not hornet ii

[keen sable]

no hornii here

[elfin hollow]

Unfortunately, I wasted a lot of my gems so now I’m screwed as to dockspace. is like nothing when I’m already at 180. Sucks they don’t give gems for basically any event you ever do they give you bogus equipment that will never help you but never jump unless of course you’re paying real money for the game. That’s the paid win aspect here.

[vale spindle]

i agree that research is very complicated and without guides / people telling you how to optimize it can take a while

but once you get the information on how to optimize, you can max a pr season well before the next one comes out if you start when the season first comes out (ship wise)

[viscid swift]

#game-feedback and #al-general are that way

[elfin hollow]

When I maxed out the guild thing, I’ll have 200 dockspace. Which doesn’t really help when I’m already at 1:80.

[sweet delta]

Idk just let <@&472236072743600148> deal with the complaining and blogging
#gameplay-help message

[elfin hollow]

I don’t know who the level because most of the ships in my dock are just garbage. And unlike a lot of other players, I haven’t been playing since the game came out so I don’t have a boatload of years to give everybody that are all +13 and maxed out.

Gears

[vale spindle]

what stage are you on currently?

[elfin hollow]

I finished chapter 12 and haven’t started 13-1

[tropic tusk]

u finish 12 with under 200 ships damm

[elfin hollow]

The difficulty spike is insane. Especially when I only have six level 125 ships

[vale spindle]

based on your existing dock you should be able to do chapter 13

[viscid swift]

you don't need 125 to do Chapter 13

[vale spindle]

just get essex shinano portland to level 115

[viscid swift]

right now just forget about W13 and start working on finishing any ships in your main fleets that aren't 120 or any immediate replacements to be made

then start working on tech to unlock more PRs like FDG

[eager mulch]

there’s 8 lv 125 ships in that vid

[vale spindle]

na once they get essex shinano portland to lvl 115 chapter 13 should be easy

[elfin hollow]

What do you mean by FDG?

[vale spindle]

fredrich from pr2

[viscid swift]

Friedrich der Grosse

[late flame]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb?ship=friedrich_der_große

[tropic tusk]

seeing his dock now makes me want to focus on leveling the same ship

[elfin hollow]

Way too many Eagle union crap

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology give that a read

[vale spindle]

nj enty shinano eugen helena meta sandy
saratoga essex unicorn portland unzen reno

should be more than enough to clear chapter 13 assuming gear is good and ship levels are 110+, ideally 115+ to compensate for "worse" gear

i have essex twice fuck

[eager mulch]

Essex meta

[vale spindle]

don't use a second essex, use illustrious or painleve instead my bad

[eager mulch]

guys Sam is telling people to raise dupes

[vale spindle]

no don't raise dupes

[elfin hollow]

~~ blasphemy ~~

[eager mulch]

dupes BAD

[vale spindle]

alternatively if you can somehow max limit break soyuz you can use her too, lots of options

[viscid swift]

SMH Sam ignoring the MLB Shinano

[vale spindle]

i thought i mentioned shinano already wtf

[eager mulch]

sam fell off

[vale spindle]

so thats why i had double essex

[viscid swift]

you did, just not in your fleet recc...

[vale spindle]

my mind blanked

[viscid swift]

it happens

[vale spindle]

you can tell who didn't pause their anime

[eager mulch]

when are the little ships being added to perma pool?

[tropic tusk]

already

2 days ago

[eager mulch]

Time to mass build heavy pool then (amagi-chan is too cute)

[viscid swift]

don't come crying to me when you have no cubes for the next UR

[eager mulch]

nah, I’d win

[fervent niche]

we should be close to a new UR soon right? its been a bit since the last one, goood

[eager mulch]

23rd

[late flame]

which is also CN anniversary

[eager mulch]

which is on the 23rd

[fervent niche]

I saved a few cubes after my horrid luck with banners, so I'm ready for this UR this time

[blissful hamlet]

How much exp needed from 120 to 125

[tropic tusk]

so fast another ur again

avp should i use purple and 1 gold or 2 gold

[steady beacon]

1,310,000 if normal
1,572,000 if rainbow

[viscid swift]

1.315 for none URs

[eager mulch]

depends on your timings

[tropic tusk]

say i got no timing

[eager mulch]

gold

[blissful hamlet]

2 gold

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[blissful hamlet]

does this mean I need more than 3 million for 100 to 125

[steady beacon]

... Yes, indeed

[sweet delta]

Always has been

[blissful hamlet]

I have to spend my cogs first then

[elfin hollow]

Hello there
Redirected from main chat

Which DD would benefit the most from this gun? And, would it be better than a proper DD gun?

For that one ship, I mean

[eager mulch]

Felix Shultz or Otto von alvensben

only two ships it’s good on

[viscid swift]

the only DDs that want it are Felix Schultz and Otto von Alvensleban and only if you don't have Plymouth guns for them

[elfin hollow]

Alvensleben it'll be, I guess, since I don't have Schultz yet nor am I anywhere close to getting her...
What are Plymouth guns?

[eager mulch]

PR5 rainbow CL gun

[viscid swift]

Rainbow Quad 152

[rain vine]

rainbow quad

[elfin hollow]

Oh... Not close to getting it either... I have like 20 designs for that, and I think it requires 50, and not enough blueprints either

[rain vine]

isnt it in protocore shop?

[eager mulch]

it is

[elfin hollow]

Yup, that's why I mentioned not having enough blueprints

[tropic tusk]

theres nth much can do beside keep researching

[elfin hollow]

Indeed
To exploit the research lab with priority 1 since that's the only tier I have finished

[viscid swift]

don't

[tropic tusk]

theres also this but it will take a while to get those

[viscid swift]

don't do research focus on 1, 2 or 3 it's a complete waste

[elfin hollow]

Yup, I have like 800 blueprints, so it would be little over 10 designs

[elfin hollow]

Not even for the blueprints?

[viscid swift]

no because you can coin all the ships and all the gear is in the gear lab

Prototype Cores are scarce yes but not worth sacrificing so much research progress for

[elfin hollow]

I don't do much in opsi as to get enough material for gear lab...

[tropic tusk]

1-3 research u can coin and get 2 times free upgrade per day

[elfin hollow]

Guess I should reevaluate my life choices at this point...

[viscid swift]

Analyzing all of your combat data packs and burn catchups for the older seasons and you'll get more than enough prototype cores for the Tenrai, Plymouth Gun, and 3 Champaign Guns

[blissful hamlet]

is SAP gun better than mk6 for mobbing?

[elfin hollow]

Interesting
What is the last one?

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
Might want to give that a read

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[viscid swift]

considering its atrocious modifiers for light and heavy no

[ruby skiff]

do muse ships count towards construction exp

[viscid swift]

yes

[elfin hollow]

I think I actually have that one... Be right back, I'm going to check

[elfin hollow]

Yay, I do have stock of that one
Now, I'll proceed to read what you shared earlier

[spring scarab]

What is difference between these aviation , shelling and torpedoe ??

[elfin hollow]

Which type of ships will deal damage to the enemy

[viscid swift]

the type designates which damage type they take more damage from, they'll also take less damage from other sources

[elfin hollow]

Torpedo: destroyers and cruisers
Shelling: battleships and such
Aviation: carriers

[spring scarab]

As for me aviation and torpedo were like too hard does that mean should I improve them ??

[elfin hollow]

Which ships did you use?

[viscid swift]

if you were able to S clear FP then you don't need to touch the other 2, there's no difference in rewards

[elfin hollow]

Also, that ↑

[sweet delta]

the only difference is to save you misclicks in the future

[spring scarab]

Ohhh understood i was able to clear shelling too easily

[elfin hollow]

Nice

[spring scarab]

And one more thing is there any good war archives to do and get a good ship ?

Because right now I think I'm having few good ships

[viscid swift]

not particularly, Divergent Chessboard for IB tech and that's largely it

[eager mulch]

JdA

[viscid swift]

Jeanne is an interesting one, she's definitely useful but not to the point where I'd reccomend a newer player to go out of their way to farm for her given the content they're tackling

[elfin hollow]

Well, this is interesting... For PR 3 I have actually made it in the opposite order, and Cheshire is the one remaining to even start...

[ocean fiber]

Hi guys I’m back and beat world 11, so does that mean I need to reform my fleet for world 12

[eager mulch]

maybe

[ocean fiber]

May I ask why you say maybe

[undone plover]

your fleet could be good enough already.
ch 12 isnt that hard. just needs a bit more aa and CVs

[viscid swift]

Well we don't exactly know what your fleets look like

[undone plover]

just screenshot both fleets and post it here if u are worried

[ocean fiber]

Last time we talk you said my fleets were ok and I should add Independence and indomitable to the fleet

[soft raft]

[viscid swift]

There are some positioning issues to say the least

[tropic tusk]

is that going to be the next ur? that iron blood girl with the hat

[viscid swift]

That's Bismarck Zwei, she's been out for nearly a year

[undone plover]

if u mean next rerun then no. it is vanguard

[tropic tusk]

relaunch cope

[viscid swift]

Swap Eugen and Laffey 2

Same with Jervis and Laffey

[ocean fiber]

With who

[undone plover]

he means their positions

[viscid swift]

With each other

Other than that Assuming no substantial gear issues should be fine

[undone plover]

also flag BZ over UvH and NJ over unicorn (unless u are keeping unicorn flag for xp)

and laffey2 is missing a LB but probably save your rainbow bulins for now

oh NJ also LB2

[viscid swift]

So is Zwei

[ocean fiber]

I know

So um dose indomitable and independence go anywhere

[viscid swift]

For now nowhere

Clear W12 first and then level them up

[ocean fiber]

Good?

[viscid swift]

Eugen Main tanks in the boss fleet

[eager mulch]

using non mlb ships

[tropic tusk]

u didnt swap jaffee and jarvs

[viscid swift]

Also mob fleet vanguard literally didn't change position...

[blissful hamlet]

should little renown use musashi gun for mobbing?

[blissful hamlet]

put jervis on front and laffey2 on front

[whole crypt]

it's literally 2 sets of 3

[blissful hamlet]

[ocean fiber]

Is that a no

[blissful hamlet]

either eugen or laffey2 as main tank

definetly not saint louis

[ocean fiber]

What do you mean by this

[viscid swift]

Copy that for positioning

[whole crypt]

what sort of spaghetti code, problem with time fuse guns?

[blissful hamlet]

i thought that's enty on offtank

[ocean fiber]

Better

[viscid swift]

yes

[ocean fiber]

Ok

So I can take on world 12

[viscid swift]

assuming gear isn't terrible probably

[blissful hamlet]

use more CV or better AA ship if your fleet is dying

[undone plover]

And use circle formation

[ocean fiber]

Do you want me to show you my gear

[sharp token]

i got 347 cubes will that be able to catch up to new ur?

[whole crypt]

in any case I intentionally turned clearing off for my tests because higher ACV req and full map reqs to compare for a lethal clear... but anyway I'm convinced NorCal works as a support

[tropic tusk]

isnt that abit over kill for 12

look at my team for w12

[blissful hamlet]

it's better than being underkill

your fleet is fine too

maybe need more levels

[tropic tusk]

i put them there to level up

[blissful hamlet]

also use unicorn instead of shouhou

[tropic tusk]

no im leveling up shouhou

[blissful hamlet]

I see

[left nest]

Between Saratoga, Souryuu, Ark Royal and West Virginia, who should I retro first?

[tropic tusk]

saratoga

[left nest]

[blissful hamlet]

saratoga > ark royal > any

[left nest]

thx u

[mint flint]

souryuu probably isnt worth retroing

[ocean fiber]

Shouldn’t you also retrofit independence she is powerful

[blissful hamlet]

only saratoga and ark royal worth retro

[soft raft]

Welp have fun waiting

[left nest]

I already retro'd independence

[tropic tusk]

holy shit tempest is coming back also thast good to know

wait do we get cn anniv also?

[soft raft]

Why wouldnt we....

[blissful hamlet]

most likely yes

[tropic tusk]

thats nice

[viscid swift]

all 3 main servers are in sync so

[soft raft]

we're gonna get the event CN gets on their anniv
only thing we dont get from CN Anniv is their region specific rewards

[whole crypt]

the "main" event happens on all servers, we just don't get CN anniv specific handouts

[plain saffron]

and we get those in our anniversary instead

[tropic tusk]

thats nice

[whole crypt]

same for all anniversaries really, main events ran on all servers, only server getting anniversary gets the full handout

[undone plover]

Except we also get wishing well right?

[plain saffron]

EN get wishing well on CN and EN anniversary yeah

CN/JP get on CN and JP anniversary

[tropic tusk]

is seydlitz a Ur or normal ship?

[whole crypt]

SR

[plain saffron]

SR

[soft raft]

man did you not see the key down on the bottom

[tropic tusk]

oh now i see it mb xD

[plain saffron]

what

[tropic tusk]

this pic

[plain saffron]

ouh the image

[tropic tusk]

is she good?

[eager mulch]

no

[tropic tusk]

ok so just good for collection then

[plain saffron]

isn't she good

like standard good SR

[eager mulch]

she’s ok ig

[soft raft]

fairly decent but has no real use over other options

[eager mulch]

I wouldn’t use her over hood

[tropic tusk]

oh wait she event drop will get her for free anyway

[blissful atlas]

so is nc new augment worth

[plain saffron]

nope

[eager mulch]

worth what

[blissful atlas]

figured tiny heal only when aa guns do damage seems meh or niche

[eager mulch]

it’s a sizeable heal no?

[plain saffron]

doesn't it need long range AA which is not really used

[blissful atlas]

5% of max hpon a 10s cd

[soft raft]

Yeah it requires Fuze guns
So like lol

And it procs when the Fuze gun fires

[eager mulch]

Yeah, and how much/often is a uni heal

it’s not small at all

[blissful atlas]

it also requires some of the worst guns to be used as said by blaster

[eager mulch]

Sure but you said “tiny heal”

[plain saffron]

the heal is not bad, the requirement is

[soft raft]

and then there's the fact that NorthCal herself is subpar in general

[plain saffron]

but people will "just use unicorn" anyway

[viscid swift]

setting aside the fact it requires a fuze AA gun at all, how often are you even going to be proccing outside W12, 13, and 15

[whole crypt]

between stigma and myself I think we're convinced NorCal can be used for 15 support

no idea why stigma's heal didn't work properly

[tropic tusk]

say w13-w15 which one is best for farming money and exp

[south sequoia]

support as in used as a secondary healer?

[tropic tusk]

or just stay in w12 for money n exp

[undone plover]

13-4 is rly the highest u can push it “comfortably”

[south sequoia]

I have heard before that people weren't able to trigger her heal, they get the barrage but for some reason the heal isn't working.

[undone plover]

If u are levelling backline tech stay in 12-4

[whole crypt]

that might be the reason why I'm taking more damage than I'd like

[soft raft]

If you're just focusing on gold, W13
If you're trying to focus on both, W12 because you can get away with using shittier ships

Technically higher world = more gold but W14 and 15 are alot more stingy on fleet comps than W13 and below

[eager mulch]

isn’t W15 similar gold/oil as W12

[tropic tusk]

ok so stay w12 then

[whole crypt]

so if the heal procs more regularly maybe you can replace Unicorn with Aquila or Volga, provided that was the actual problem

[south sequoia]

I suggest testing it out for a few more and if you see the barrage proccing and planes being shut down and no heals, it should be reported as a bug

[undone plover]

Also I think the jump from 13 to 14 isnt as big as 12 to 13 when it comes to gold

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure anyone tested 15 but every chapter above 12 should be better than 12, it's just whether it's worth the trouble

[south sequoia]

The gold income barely increases from 13 - 14 - 15
I think It has to do with the fact they all share levels.

[tropic tusk]

also when do u think aquila is rerunning so as shimakazu

[south sequoia]

we don't know

[soft raft]

Aquila and Shimakaze already reran

[whole crypt]

the coin/oil should be slightly better, but you burn more oil on higher chapters so you end up with more coins

[undone plover]

Aquila already reran. But will be archived next

[south sequoia]

We're just waiting for their archive

[tropic tusk]

wait her last rerunn was right as i join this game

[south sequoia]

also take into consideration the clear time

[tropic tusk]

dammit i missed it

[whole crypt]

also take into consideration per morale

[tropic tusk]

hope they both come archrive same time

[soft raft]

unlikely af

[tropic tusk]

well hope they come soon

[undone plover]

Is the perma portion of event pool up to date? Say an event is special pool will it have a recently archived ship in it?

[whole crypt]

looks like it

[soft raft]

It should yeah

[undone plover]

[soft raft]

Only instance I can think of where there's a delay is that there's cutoff periods for skins and WA/Perma additions for Black Friday and Wishing well respectively

[wild sinew]

How come norcal not proccing her barrage

[rapid grail]

needs Time Fuse AA guns to proc her augment barrage and effects xd

[wild sinew]

Any backliner or need herself to shoot at it?

[rapid grail]

only in Gear Lab
P.S. they're shit

herself

[plain saffron]

the AA gun is combined and flagship shoot it, but iirc she needs to equip one

i'm still thinking she don't need to equip it

[wild sinew]

Oh...

Her barrage is only 2 ap shell...

[whole crypt]

the barrage is sad, you're really just after the heal

her own damage is just rubbish regardless

[plain saffron]

based on what i read any long fuze should trigger her skill hm

[wild sinew]

1st time there a bb as healer

[whole crypt]

there's Arizona and Honoka

[plain saffron]

3rd

[whole crypt]

cone is from flag but flag itself doesn't need to use a fuse gun right?

[wild sinew]

I gave it to norcal herself and she not flagship
She proccing her barrage

[whole crypt]

I'd rather leave NorCal alone with a fuse gun and keep STAAG on the main BB

[plain saffron]

yeah, it just combined and put on flagship position

did anyone test with nocal not equipping the gun?

[whole crypt]

so a flag BB with it and NorCal no fuse gun?

let me try real quick

[wild sinew]

I tested it... Using long range aa gun on other bb

Doesnt proc her barrage
She herself need to use it

[whole crypt]

so NGA was right

[plain saffron]

man this doesn't make sense

[whole crypt]

what doesn't, the game code?

[plain saffron]

or nvm

i missed a part

yeah it check if nocal is in the combined aa

[silk sphinx]

norcal good?

[plain saffron]

loop list of ship with long range gun, if the ship have this type of trigger, trigger the buff

[forest palm]

sounds like more work than it's worth

[plain saffron]

sounds standard

[whole crypt]

is there visual of how far across the screen the fuse gun ranges stretch, 134 basically just procced the moment planes came on the right end

[gusty olive]

In a boss fleet

Lusty or Formi?

[whole crypt]

neither

[rapid grail]

there's better options than both; are you limiting your options?

oh yeah wait you're a faction fleet user

[gusty olive]

only available options...
said CV fleet already have Enty and Ark

[rapid grail]

formi then; lusty is lackluster against bossing

[whole crypt]

technically Formidable, but do you have any other carriers

[gusty olive]

I wouldve slapped Shinano innit if she's mlb

[whole crypt]

like do you have any other carriers you can raise

I assume this is for OS boss fleet, you could also just not use a CV boss fleet if you don't have the options

[gusty olive]

Theres Ark Royal Meta but I assume she is not great

[whole crypt]

better than Formidable

[plain saffron]

she's good

[whole crypt]

is this the "META ships bad" thing

[plain saffron]

back in my day mark is replacement for shinano

[whole crypt]

she's a legit bossing carrier with that loadout though

obviously rainbows better

[gusty olive]

Guess I'll use her

[silk sphinx]

so how's norcal healing?

[gusty olive]

I have her ready anyways

[fluid brook]

kinda bit difficult to trigger that fuze AA without losing some AA

[whole crypt]

actually what you're losing is the second carrier's fighters

because she's not replacing your "main" BB who can still use a STAAG

[fluid brook]

Then still not worth it

[whole crypt]

depends if you're trying to cope without Volga/Aquila for 15

or any of the side healers, they're all gacha ships

[fluid brook]

So incase i dont have any said Aquila or Volga, use NorCal w aug?

[gusty olive]

so... Enty, Ark, and Ark Meta is better than having Formi in Ark meta's place?

[whole crypt]

I don't recommend it, if you're missing the side healers chances you also don't have enough AA either

[fluid brook]

So NorCal~~'s aug~~ not worth it

[whole crypt]

never was, but if you really want to use her it is an improvement

[sweet delta]

Perseus

[fluid brook]

let say i dont have it

[sweet delta]

Everyone has unicorn , then I'd say the other slot goes aquila > Volga > klaudia > Perseus > illustrious or random best non-healers ?= painleve ?= NC

[whole crypt]

Perseus and Ryuuhou still options, assuming you somehow don't have any of them then yes there's still Illustrious who also brings barrier so

so the heal wasn't going off at all for you, or just not consistently

[sweet delta]

I didn't try ryuuhou I think she would be garbage damage, garbage tankiness, and no main fleet healing either

[fluid brook]

i just wanna know if NorCal's aug worth it, but saying alr the ship ik it wont be

[whole crypt]

well NorCal also doesn't heal main fleet but at least Ryuuhou is targeted if you have one biting it harder

[sweet delta]

Put North Carolina (NC) and another BB in the fleet. NC does not equip a time fuse gun. The other BB does. When the other BB fires her time fuse gun, NC's barrage and heal do not activate. Expected effect: The in-game skill says "When a ship in your fleet fires" but the Actual effect is "When NC fires". Reason: in battlefleetrangeantiairunit.lua, NC is not part of _crewUnitList.

[eternal moth]

It looks like the next event should be French. French UR likely incoming

[whole crypt]

ah... so might have worked if you put fuse on NorCal instead

the main BB doesn't need to be using a fuse gun so you can just keep a STAAG on that one

[sweet delta]

Yeah I just wanted Rodney meta to have flag for small seven barrage

[whole crypt]

when I tested just now if NorCal has no fuse gun and main BB did, the barrage didnt' go off at all though

all cases NorCal off flag

[sweet delta]

That's exactly the bug I just wrote a giant paragraph about

[gusty olive]

is double Ryusei on Ark meta alright?

[sweet delta]

NC must have fuse, other BBs may or may not

[whole crypt]

eh I already said from the start though, fuse gun needs to be on norcal

the entire premise of the test was always fuse gun on NorCal

[sweet delta]

The game doesn't say she needs fuse though, that's the bug

[whole crypt]

poor writing

[sweet delta]

CN and EN both

[whole crypt]

not on JP either, but NGA mine already said needs to be on NorCal

so for your "test" NorCal aug wasn't doing anything at all

[sweet delta]

So I swapped the guns and ran like 3 more times and the vanguards except were all 80%+ after 7 battles

Certainly the vanguard healing is a lot, the weaknesses are AA, damage, and ACV

[whole crypt]

ACV is partly mitigated by her AVI dmgred, but I'd still rather have the ACV and a carrier that does more than NorCal does

[sweet delta]

I need two more runs and then I'll have 3 and 3 to compare between painleve and NC

[whole crypt]

well I'm not spending any more oil testing, back to grinding

[sweet delta]

grind and test at the same time

[whole crypt]

no AA vanguards to raise anymore

[plain saffron]

hmm so french event

[jaunty vault]

perhaps

[plain saffron]

not perharps, all 3 server annouced it

[jaunty vault]

perhaps

[plain saffron]

how to spell perharps

[eager mulch]

cooper changed again, I’m scared

[whole crypt]

「自由鸢尾」、「维希教廷」全新大型活动将于月末登场！
perhaps 100%.

[jaunty vault]

[gusty olive]

They have spoken

[plain saffron]

[jaunty vault]

well forgive me for not reading moonrunes

[viscid swift]

Cn literally made an announcement of a new French event coming at the end of the month

[plain saffron]

well you could just trust me cooper smh

[jaunty vault]

well forgive me for making a slight joke

[plain saffron]

not just CN, EN also said it but in more gimmickish way

||joke?? in my gph?||

[whole crypt]

JP also gimmicky

but CN spelt it out 100%

[sweet delta]

I'll have to report cheeky to Yuki for speculation in nickname

[rapid grail]

what's DmgRed

does that refer to damage dealt by ship?

[whole crypt]

damage reduction

[sweet delta]

NC offers more vanguard HP for less main fleet HP than Painléve. There should be less than a tier difference on typical lists as I expected. But due to ACV, NC might have to go one lower

I was able to reach air supremacy with Max tech, a 35 Avi cat on the boss fleet for Shinano and haku, and basically no Avi cat for unicorn. Players with less tech can reach it with Yorkii or Implac

[whole crypt]

if you were testing on clearing the ACV req is lower isn't it

[sweet delta]

i peeked without clearing

[whole crypt]

so it's still just the dogshit DPS and less main fleet durability then

[sweet delta]

maybe i'll try to double down on the dogshit DPS and fix main fleet durability with perseus

nope, that drops ACV below supremacy

[whole crypt]

if you want to double down on dogshit DPS you're just remove the main BB

but I think we both know how that will go

[copper pine]

acv isn't a big deal unless its a w12 and 13 type of stage tho

[sweet delta]

fortunately, we don't care about 12 and 13

[mighty turtle]

what bb to take from medal shop

[sweet delta]

or unfortunately

[mighty turtle]

alright, thanks

[whole crypt]

why would it matter for 12 and 13, NorCal already works for 13 before ACV existed

[sweet delta]

hood if you still don't have a good gold/rainbow non-warspite BB

[mighty turtle]

yeah, i'm thinking to change pennsy

[whole crypt]

the testing is all in 15

[copper pine]

i meant as in the ACV difference

[whole crypt]

12 and 13 don't matter

[copper pine]

W15 is basically just get proper fleet setup and you're good to go right?

[whole crypt]

have you even done 15?

[copper pine]

yes

[whole crypt]

then which part of "we're testing NorCal in 15" is not clear

[copper pine]

i mean... w15 is still using the fundamentals of the game. unlike 14 where you have to think more about bomb boats etc

[whole crypt]

wha?