gameplay-help

[sonic hemlock]

But god damn, NoCal heals the vanguard now.

[atomic abyss]

Honestly she might actually beat Arizona in healing now LOL

[keen sable]

time fuze?

[vestal thistle]

Okay is event Formidable worth getting

[atomic abyss]

No

[sonic hemlock]

"遠距離"

That's the "long-range". Time fuze is "定时引信".

[tame jungle]

Long range is the normal aa then right?

[sonic hemlock]

"Every 35 (15) seconds, fires a special normal bullet (changes to armor-piercing bullet at Lv6) on one random enemy. This barrage will always be critical. After that, the flagship of the main fleet fires a similar special conventional shell (changes to armor-piercing shell at Lv6)."

...Wow, you are the grand central station of disappointment, Scharnhorst.

[tame jungle]

Awesome

[jaunty vault]

[crimson glacier]

tl:dr is that norcal is just irredeemable garbage

[jaunty vault]

so is scharnhorst

[crimson glacier]

yeah she is purple

[jaunty vault]

[tame jungle]

Why she ourple 😂

[inner delta]

because that's her rarity?

[crimson glacier]

😂

[soft coral]

omgomg iam lazy just doing stuff rn before maintance does this thing really give you 1 note per day

[jaunty vault]

you can get the gear today

[tame jungle]

You do not have the time left i think

[jaunty vault]

if you rush

[hollow charm]

"I didn't know that one of the missions required clearing stage 5 of the event 30 times to get a stamp for the furniture reward.
Is there a possibility that the event furniture reward will be rerun?
Because I've only completed around 20 times, it's impossible for me to get the last stamp (30 times stage 5)."
but "I got all the new ships."

[inner delta]

it's still like 7 minute

[eternal basalt]

No, 7 minutes

[crimson glacier]

is there any song thats lessthan 1 min

[tame jungle]

Those songs are all at least a minute

[soft coral]

so what, do i need to complete every song, just completed 2 of them

[tame jungle]

Didn’t time it but i just know from rhythm game experience lol

[eternal basalt]

Polaris events haven't rerun

[jaunty vault]

it is possible but not expected

[jaunty vault]

complete any song at B rank or higher
and waitbfor song to finish

its most likely impossible now

[tame jungle]

It’s impossible yeah

[jaunty vault]

the gear was shit anyways

[tame jungle]

Better luck next time

[eternal basalt]

B and quit might work

[jaunty vault]

it doesn't

[tame jungle]

You gotta complete

[hollow charm]

I just need to get the last stamp for the furniture. Sad, but there's not enough time for that

[cloud fractal]

Server comes down in 5m for maintenance? It’s 12 PST for EN servers, correct?

[soft coral]

cool

[hollow charm]

How does the gear look? Do you have a photo of it?

nvm

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Harmony_µ_Ticket

[hollow charm]

i got the gear, i thought it was the furniture hehe

[elfin hollow]

[soft coral]

oh naw its one of those that changes the bgm, is the song good?

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.netojuu.com/images/0/0b/FurnIcon_ido3xunzhangicon.png

[hollow charm]

[eternal basalt]

Cycles between 2 event songs

[sharp comet]

r there any news on what the next event will be

[rapid grail]

as for faction, nada. UR event though, courtesy of CN anni

[atomic abyss]

Besides CN anniversary, no

[sharp comet]

the anni is in 1 week?

[eternal basalt]

Now kindergarden, next week call to arms. And catchup

[halcyon plover]

I just realized I didn’t do the last couple runs I needed for Shinano-Chan… she was geared… do I lose my items on her…?

[eternal basalt]

Actually, not sure

[halcyon plover]

Cause I don’t remember if I had anything unique on her…

[whole crypt]

gear should be dumped into your depot

should

[halcyon plover]

Pretty ticked I wasn’t feeling well and busy… days flew by and I realized this was end…. But I was off by a lot… was off by 2 more and I coulda got her buuut. Eh……………

[tame jungle]

Bit of poor planning, it happens

She’ll come back someday

[whole crypt]

I'm guessing you didn't get much of the event done either then

[halcyon plover]

I at least got all the ships and finished all the stages lol.

[winter condor]

that hapened to me with the previous chan but the gear was in the depot after maintenance

[halcyon plover]

Ah kk. Cause tbh, I didn’t even look at her gear I was trying to get it to speed run lol. So I forgot what I put on her

[winter condor]

hmmm then is more complicated in mi case i used on her the same setup who i had in volga

so was more easy to see if was there or no xD

[halcyon plover]

Well… my own fault I just hope nothing was a collab specific haha

[late flame]

at least you were not me who missed Foch (free ship) totally on her rerun

[halcyon plover]

This is the first ship I have ever missed…. And I’ve been playing since maybe 3 months after EN started…. And it was the Chan of my favorite Kansen….

[crimson glacier]

cool

[winter condor]

i know the feel i missed the UR laffey and right now would be a great addition to one of my fleets

[idle jungle]

Module detail

North Carolina: Yellow skill

When fuset aa gun activated, heal the vanguard for 1.0%(5.0%) HP and trigger lv1(10) special barrage. 10s CD

[frank pulsar]

thats pretty good
kinda useless outside w13 though isnt it...?

[idle jungle]

OPS I guess

[whole crypt]

the AA proc needs to be timed fuze guns

[atomic abyss]

Wait

5% of whose HP

[tame jungle]

Mine

[idle jungle]

Vanguard, whole, not based on carolina

[whole crypt]

NorCal's AA slot needs to be a fuse gun to work

[atomic abyss]

...now assuming that is exactly what it sounds like on paper

That actually sounds pretty decent

Wait I'm dumb what's a fuse gun

[whole crypt]

the wording would suggest 5% of target's HP

the rubbish AA guns with that special icon in lab

[idle jungle]

It's actually "long range AA gun" in CN server,but I assume it'll be main fleet AA gun.

[whole crypt]

I just checked nga, it's fuse guns

[winter condor]

but north carolina is kinda outdated today no? even giving heal i think who that spot could be filled with a decent damage dealer or other healer

[tame jungle]

Zamn! Also does it remove the AA reduction?

[atomic abyss]

Can you give me an example?
Again dumb

[atomic abyss]

The thing is, I'm a bit hesitant to just pass it off blindly

Here we are, bringing a secondary healer for w14/15 as is

[idle jungle]

damn, need to waste resource to create those aa just for Carolina?

[atomic abyss]

No, judgement isn't out yet lol

[whole crypt]

need to check if the barrage is any good

[atomic abyss]

I'm a bit hesitant to come to a conclusion like Scharn

[idle jungle]

I sure bypassing newbie can't even create that.

[atomic abyss]

I mean she's probably going to be a better healer than Arizona where there are planes LUL

So that's a start

[whole crypt]

scharn is just doubling her barrage, still shit

[gusty olive]

interesting...

[atomic abyss]

My bad
I meant the conclusion isn't as clear cut

[idle jungle]

Schranhorst's pretty blunt.

Sniper+: When activated, trigger extra same barrage on the flagship position.

[atomic abyss]

So I'm not about to put a clear conclusion on NoCar just yet

[south sequoia]

Why does the augments on the datamine show chapayev and comets instead of norcal and scharn

[winter condor]

welp being honest with a good vanguard and combining her with other healer could be a good combo for anti AA plus good healing but dunno like u said we need to test it

[atomic abyss]

I think I have NoCar with her skills maxed tho...
So I'll probably end up testing her

[south sequoia]

did nagami forget to check or

[whole crypt]

wait for game to come back up to test I guess, need to craft an aa gun to check

[atomic abyss]

Nagami computer broke

[south sequoia]

should we unpin

[whole crypt]

sam too right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Unpin

[winter condor]

mine is in worse state lvl 1 skills lvl 1 no stars gonna wait to see the results of the people who is gonna test her

[atomic abyss]

Again can you give me an example of the AA gun
I needa craft it

[whole crypt]

I have NorCal 120/oathed/skilled

[atomic abyss]

My nocar is 105 or 110 iirc

Did she have some fleet tech lul

[whole crypt]

on phone now don't want to do long typing

[idle jungle]

But I sure 134AA) is better for Car since it increase FP

[winter condor]

quadruple or twin 40mm

[atomic abyss]

Can^2 just send me a screenshot of the gun later

[idle jungle]

royal tech

[atomic abyss]

Uwu
Oh
That's what the red icon was?

[idle jungle]

The one north Carolina module demand for

Only BB can equip

[whole crypt]

it's a separate system to normal aa though

[atomic abyss]

I'll be testing too then...

[south sequoia]

What does norcal augment do

[inner delta]

make her heal frontline

[atomic abyss]

Heal frontline when fuze gun fires

[tame jungle]

It’s kinda messed up that you’d have to actively gimp your fleet to use NC augment lol

[south sequoia]

Thats

Something.

[winter condor]

is better this one than the STAAG?

[idle jungle]

.

[whole crypt]

if fuse gun on aa proc vanguard heal and barrage 10s cd

[whole crypt]

it's shit, yes

[inner delta]

it's so gimped

[whole crypt]

it's a very lame way to try to get people to use a scuffed mechanic

[tame jungle]

So the reason you’d even ever bring NC (AA) is also more effective against you

[atomic abyss]

How does it gimp the fleet

[inner delta]

because of the time fuze

[atomic abyss]

(I genuinely don't know)

I don't even know what the fuck that is

[tame jungle]

Consensus on timed fuze seems to be that it’s quite bad

[atomic abyss]

Let me be specific

What is timed fuze

[inner delta]

flak

[idle jungle]

Not much, but decent for BB who need AA and FP for once

[inner delta]

[atomic abyss]

Yuki I will give you flak instead

[inner delta]

you asked smh

[atomic abyss]

I mean what does it do that's functionally different from normal AA

[hushed dawn]

Is the datamine out yet?

[inner delta]

it's literally flak lmao

like it shoot a thing when plane come

[winter condor]

nice to know thanks

[atomic abyss]

No one to update so no

[hushed dawn]

[atomic abyss]

So it only shoots on its own?

Independent of the frontline

[inner delta]

think so, never used it

[atomic abyss]

Well this is going to be a royal pain to test...

[inner delta]

dont need to test, it's going to be bad

[whole crypt]

fuse guns only fit on main fleet, have their own firing cone and is not included in aa circle

[atomic abyss]

So it's basically for planes that fly over the frontline and head to the back?

Except they're so weak that they're mostly irrelevant?

[inner delta]

they aren't weak, it's just long cd and it can miss i think?

[tame jungle]

It seems to just spawn a damage box

[whole crypt]

essentially

[inner delta]

can they miss, i remember they can

[tame jungle]

Fireworks

[atomic abyss]

Hmm, I'm not fully convinced to write it off completely yet

Could be I just don't understand it

[inner delta]

ender pls, if it's not bad people would already been using it

[whole crypt]

depends on the guns you use, but most mainfleet don't have good AA/AAGE/RLD to support the mechanics

[atomic abyss]

Oh well 21k coins down the drain it is

[inner delta]

the mechanic has been out for like so long

[atomic abyss]

It's not like NoCar is going to be used for anything else anyways

[tame jungle]

Here’s to hoping the barrage is really good lol

[whole crypt]

it also takes away from your AA circle

[inner delta]

cuz it doesn't contribute to avg

[atomic abyss]

I will cope that she's better than Ari

[whole crypt]

it doesn't add damage or help the firing rate since not included n circle calc

[atomic abyss]

I mean be frank with me
Even in the current game
With full AA
W15 planes still go over the frontline and survive right

[inner delta]

being better than arizona isn't that big of a challenge

and you forgot she's a purple = cheaper

[rapid grail]

yeah. just use CVs in that case since they pretty good w/ intercept as well lol

[atomic abyss]

I'm almost certainly coping here
But I still think there's a chance that it might be able to see some use in plane hells...

[rapid grail]

CVs are still preferred and NorCal kinda lacking though w/ intercept

[inner delta]

it maybe but certainly not using nocal

[whole crypt]

I'll test and let you know how bad it is

[rapid grail]

w13 and w13H yeah, w15 you have better choices

[tame jungle]

Norcal with sanshikidan

[inner delta]

ender go sleep, you are coping way too deep

going w15 with nocal is suicide

[atomic abyss]

I mean I have my nocar raised too
I may not be able to test in 15
But I can gimp frontline enough to test in 12

[rapid grail]

test in 12

[inner delta]

w12 is so much different tho?

[whole crypt]

I left 15-3 lethal for this sort of shit

[inner delta]

that's completely change the whole shit

[atomic abyss]

I mean more of a proof of concept as opposed to practical

[inner delta]

yeah

you can't use the concept from 12 to 15

it's just too different

[atomic abyss]

I'm not going to

I mean if it doesn't even work in 12, fat chance it'll work anywhere else

Unless you're telling me she's a masochist and needs more planes crashing into her

[inner delta]

it will work in 12

[idle jungle]

No deal, unless she gets retrofit that the reciprocate the battlestars she earned.

Then she's a midtier ship and
Upmost B- tier in OPSiren
Since no airplane for certain boss for you to heal and barrage

[late flame]

sadge

[whole crypt]

unless any of you have CN tests or something I'll come back with something in the evening

[atomic abyss]

If my waifu could get a super broken aug
I will always believe, Yuki

Talking about

Though yes, I'm not expecting much from NoCar...

[idle jungle]

At least they'll be 5 unique module in next update. Cope more~

[atomic abyss]

Ultimately, even if she's somehow actually decent with the aug, there's always going to be the issue of opportunity cost anyways

At least they're bothering to upgrade old ships...

[tame jungle]

NC retrofit please i am on my knees begging

[gusty olive]

QE retrofit please~

[atomic abyss]

That's what Howe is for

[inner delta]

user retrofit pls, so they know #al-general exist

[undone plover]

Any link to new augments?

[inner delta]

nagami sent earlier, not translated

[blissful hamlet]

NC any good now?

[atomic abyss]

Come back in a few days when we've tested
Unlikely tho

[blissful hamlet]

[plain saffron]

It doesn't have the augment 😔 something broke and I'm at work so

Blame anydesk for freezing on my other laptop

[inner delta]

just let it be

[umbral glacier]

Alright while its still maintenance can someone tell me a new fleet name?

I'm currently running the name 1st Fleet "ThugHunters" and it's getting stale now.

[blazing shale]

Was there a CN/JP stream yet that talked about the new UR?

[steady beacon]

Not yet, no
If the usual schedule is followed, it should be sometime (probably late) next week

[idle jungle]

The barrage: 2 AP shell, that's all

[blissful hamlet]

if you genuienly only need name suggestion and not the fleet composition then you probably want to ask #al-general

[tame jungle]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

[blissful hamlet]

that looks pretty mid

[whole crypt]

looks like shit died before barrage hit so can't tell how much damage, but that's kind of shit

[tame jungle]

That’s just tragic

[whole crypt]

it's just manjuu

[blissful hamlet]

when was the last time we get a real good augment?

I can only think of saratoga

[idle jungle]

Shangri-La?

[whole crypt]

don't remember the order they were added so not sure which ones are after saratoga

[blissful hamlet]

maybe that

[sullen creek]

Chapayev which was like last time

[blissful hamlet]

huh since when chapayev move to tier 0

chapayev op

[idle jungle]

Her skill upgraded to her barrage cause enemies to receive 20% damage for 6 second

[blissful hamlet]

poverty avrora

[idle jungle]

But still, 70% gamble meh barrage

[south sequoia]

and even more expensive

[steady beacon]

So your poverty Aurora has upgraded (?) from Sirius to Chapayev now, huh? 👀

[blissful hamlet]

I said avrora not aurora

[steady beacon]

EN moment
Alright then, to set the record straight
Sirius is serenity's poverty Aurora
And Chapayev is serenity's poverty Avrora

[blissful hamlet]

[whole crypt]

which fuse gun will be the least shit for this test...

[steady beacon]

Uhhh... probably Twin 134
Since, in worst-case scenario, you can always just use it as an FP stat stick afterwards if you want...

[whole crypt]

I'm no short of 134s regardless, let me get home first and check the stats

[steady beacon]

Well that one gives 30 AA/15 FP
The Twin 127 (time-fuze variant of gold USS DD gun) is 35/10
The other two are just 45 AA

[whole crypt]

I'm considering timing more because 10s CD

[steady beacon]

Actually, you know what, should've just screenshotted this to start with

[whole crypt]

[eternal basalt]

None of them are good

[inner delta]

it's prolly 134 eitherway so you don't full gimp and still have 15 fp

[whole crypt]

that's not the point

[inner delta]

and 134 seems like the best middle anyway there

[whole crypt]

would it be a fair test to remove Unicorn for checking how well the heal goes

[inner delta]

sure?

having uni just make her look bad

[late flame]

eww fuze* damn autocorrect

[plain saffron]

does new augment have something to do with fuze AA?

[whole crypt]

the additional part of NorCal's augment skill only procs on fuze gun trigger

[inner delta]

so how the test

[whole crypt]

putting the fleet together

[plain saffron]

ok wtf are these, looks like they're planning to add AL in google play emulator, and nintendo bind? wut

[south sequoia]

Nintendo bind..?

[plain saffron]

[steady beacon]

I guess I get Google Play emulator, but how in the blazes did Nintendo get involved in this?

[plain saffron]

there's also mention of PC client, could be google emu but those are mentioned specifically

and a lot of the error code are "censored" by putting 0 instead of actual error code

i guess cross check with JP to see PC PC or google emu PC?

ouh there's also steam i think

yeah a lot of Steam

are gmo some kind of JP payment?

[whole crypt]

not that I know of

[plain saffron]

inb4 those are for AG

hmm Jp doesn't have the 0 ones so i guess those are JP only?

[blissful hamlet]

Azur lane in steam

[inner delta]

[plain saffron]

welp that's the only interesting thing in this datamine

[whole crypt]

survived the first boss node, lemme try to push some 0 ammos

[blissful hamlet]

Server is up

[whole crypt]

and I'll be honest I can't see the barrage testing in ch15 the whole screen is full of shit

JP is, no idea about EN

[plain saffron]

EN is up yeah

[whole crypt]

let me try that boss node 0 ammo

[sullen creek]

AL switch launch (real)

[rapid grail]

What happened to devs? I don't remember them ending maint so early

[tame jungle]

they had 2 guys working on it now instead of 1

[whole crypt]

yep, NorCal is still rubbish

[south sequoia]

This doesn't seem like gph talk.

[inner delta]

[steady beacon]

Wait wait wait
EN is up???
It was only four hours in the end?

🤯 🤯 A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one

[tame jungle]

nothing further shared on it yeah, they did reserve only 6h for maintenance but it being this short is kind of strange

[steady beacon]

Based on the notifications for JP, at least, they apparently are used to shortened maintenances...
I... cannot remember a shortened maintenance in my entire time playing AL on EN, though...

[tame jungle]

i'm pretty sure they used to always give a conservative estimate back in the day tho? servers were always back online earlier than communicated back when i started i'm pretty sure

[south sequoia]

#al-general

[inner delta]

if you need to mute, go ahead if people can't read words

[whole crypt]

so at the end of the day NorCal's damage is still so shit that the heal doesn't hold up against 0ammo

[tame jungle]

testing done? does it seem like it has any crazy armor mods or damage?

[whole crypt]

to be honest the screen was too full of shit for me to even have noticed the barrage

[inner delta]

did the aa change made it worse or no

[tame jungle]

most likely with the fuze guns just being kind of very not good

[whole crypt]

I stacked AA on vanguard to make the loss of the BB's AA slot irrelevant

[inner delta]

smh nvm then

too stacked

[whole crypt]

the thing is I wasn't testing for fuze gun AA, there's no real need to

[inner delta]

fair enough

[whole crypt]

I was testing how well the augment holds up

[tame jungle]

heal based on target's hp too so it doesn't even leverage NC's hp pool gg

[whole crypt]

wouldn't have helped by much since the ship I lost in the 0 ammo boss fight was Guam

[late flame]

so its shit then

[inner delta]

yea

[tame jungle]

seems to be like a sidegrade at best while that's not what nc needed lol

[late flame]

better than kgv at least amirite

[south sequoia]

Or vickys, you'd rather be using arizona to heal at this point

[late flame]

arizona heal..

[rapid grail]

@whole crypt does the skill need time fuze AA to proc, or just the normal AA guns

[tame jungle]

if it was normal AA it would be a straight upgrade lol

[whole crypt]

the skill specifically states it needs the main fleet to proc fuze guns

[rapid grail]

ah shiet they pushing the time fuze AA agenda 💀

[whole crypt]

the problem is the skill is only somewhat relevant in places where planes are dense enough for it to be able to proc with any sort of consistency

[rapid grail]

such a shame. Deal breaker, even

[south sequoia]

first, they simply need to make fuze AA's relevant

[whole crypt]

but it's too shit for 15... I guess you can throw her into 13

[tame jungle]

+100% damage buff

[whole crypt]

a stronger barrage would have been nice

[tame jungle]

is it legit just 2 AP shells lmfao

[whole crypt]

considering the ship's basically just dogshit

[late flame]

sadge yeah

[rapid grail]

legit viable just on one world map

[whole crypt]

make that 2, I'd say she'll make it in 12 and 13

[south sequoia]

that's why you shouldn't really expect much for augments from ships with shit skills unless the augment adds and changes so much to make it relevant

[late flame]

but just about most shitters can make it in w12 lol (albeit with carry)

[south sequoia]

so far, kawakazes augment is one of the few augments that the devs stepped out of their comfort zone for

[whole crypt]

tying the augment to the most shitty mechanic in the game didn't help

[late flame]

time to cope for nc retrofit yessir

[tame jungle]

only when we get bismark vier

[whole crypt]

back to grinding

[cobalt rapids]

why are u running unicornless

[whole crypt]

part of the test was the aug skill's heal utility

[cobalt rapids]

NC replaces flag bb in w15 mob or unicorn slot ?

[whole crypt]

well mainly the heal utility

the barrage is shit, being forced to use a fuze AA is shit

[cobalt rapids]

her heal utility can be tested with unicorn just like volga ?

well i trust u

[whole crypt]

Volga is more for keeping main fleet alive

[cobalt rapids]

comp was weird tho thats all

[whole crypt]

since I don't get Unicorn to top up every fight

[cobalt rapids]

well duh

[whole crypt]

optimally with the plane density in 15, NorCal's aug skill should be healing vanguard 5% every 10-ish seconds

the problem is she simply just doesn't do enough damage and the added barrage is still shit

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think nc is set up for a unicorn replacement since she lacks mainfleet healing but 15% backline dmg reduction + additional vang heal + idk how good her barrage is might set her up for a poverty (off)flag idk tho

[tame jungle]

barrage is 2 ap shells

[whole crypt]

but if I didn't swap Unicorn for Independence that's also even less DPS, I just get topped up a bit more each fight but you'll take more damage fighting longer

[cobalt rapids]

do we have barrage numbers?

[atomic abyss]

my cope theory craft was moreso to replace volga/aqui

but well you want to use sushi or fdg anyways so

[whole jolt]

Wait... I just started the game after the patch. So there is no UR ship available?

Oh wait.. I actually see that there is UR New Jersey and Shinano

[plain saffron]

no new UR, only permanent, don't pull for those

[whole jolt]

Should I build them or not?

[tame jungle]

those are perma pool URs, no event pool, do not build for them

[rain vine]

save your cubes

[late flame]

not now yeah

[whole jolt]

Okaay

[cobalt rapids]

i really doubt shes replacing any1 except being a poverty alternative but even then idk

[tame jungle]

poverty and taking gold bulins lol

[eager mulch]

pulling for perma URs is like spending money on a lego set that you could’ve gotten for free if you wait long enough

[whole crypt]

those 2 are needed for mainfleet heals

[frank pulsar]

^^^^ her self dmg isnt good enough to warrant being used in w15 imho
and shes not even worth as poverty alternative since youre likely to have better ships and gear by the time you attempt w15

[inner delta]

yea you won't able to replace any of those 2

[atomic abyss]

shame

[forest palm]

the new UEs any good?

[eager mulch]

not really

[forest palm]

considering the ships I'm hardly surprised

[gloomy mesa]

Should I start farming NPC points, or is there going to be an event map.

[cobalt rapids]

dead week farm campaign

[gloomy mesa]

Okay 👍🏾

Any Stage above w3 fine?

[worldly pewter]

[gloomy mesa]

Or do specific worlds give more points?

[eager mulch]

9+ ideally

[plain saffron]

higher world gives more

[late flame]

you should try to reach w9 yes

[gloomy mesa]

Yeah not going to happen, I'm only in w5

[late flame]

you'll get there in time. just need gear, levels (and MLB)

[gloomy mesa]

Who would the new NPC replace?

[eager mulch]

no one

[gloomy mesa]

Also I don't have any clue on gear.

[late flame]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[gloomy mesa]

If she's replacing no one in my fleet how do I get the points?

[south sequoia]

You don't need them in the fleet to gain points, they just make point gain faster

and it's not like lil spee is as impactful as lil shinano

or well, shinano chan

[eager mulch]

yeah, shinano chan is much cuter

[south sequoia]

[worldly pewter]

open as many purple boxes as u can and show gear

always combine the lower colors until purple

[gloomy mesa]

Lol, a free Elite is always welcome non the less

[gloomy mesa]

One sec

[plain saffron]

ouh also CN have 120fps now apparently

[south sequoia]

I doubt 120fps would change anything

[late flame]

i just hope devs do not delete code wrongly like you know, AK

[plain saffron]

more chance for PC client to be real

[steady beacon]

Oh, so their update really was fundamentally different to ours, huh
Like, theirs was a mandatory one, but neither ours nor JP's was... or, at least, we haven't had ours yet?

[plain saffron]

prob testing on CN server before new UI/client drop

[steady beacon]

[gloomy mesa]

Yeah no chance I'll be able to farm the NPC, only getting 9 points per run

[plain saffron]

you have 2 weeks

[gloomy mesa]

And no oil

[plain saffron]

but now i can see my static images saratoga in 120 FRAME PER SECONDSS

[gloomy mesa]

Btw to the brother who told me to share my gear, like each individual one?!

[night pumice]

is new loli ship good at all or is it skippable

[worldly pewter]

go to the inventory then go to the equipment
there is a button that let u toggle the equipped ones too on the bottom left

[south sequoia]

doesn't really matter, could just ignore her

[jaunty vault]

huh early maint end?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[late flame]

hais

[jaunty vault]

is there a client update

[late flame]

not that i know of (just checked googleplaystore)

[plain saffron]

CN only

[steady beacon]

... If I'm interpreting Nagami correctly (and I might well not be, since my knowledge of the jargon is basically nonexistent), I think CN has

Oh lmao... well, good to know...

[plain saffron]

[jaunty vault]

kekw

[steady beacon]

Positively massive skill issues

[gloomy mesa]

How many pics at a time of my gear am I allowed to drop before you guys get angry?

[steady beacon]

Put them into a thread and then nobody will mind

[gloomy mesa]

Or I guess I should just create thread

Gear help

Join me and judge me

[whole crypt]

I'm still using 30

[steady beacon]

Didn't Thorin say once something along the lines of uh
Battle is 30 FPS no matter what

[plain saffron]

logic frames

(i just made up the name)

[normal crane]

How many exp books do i need to lvl ship from lvl 1-120

[frank pulsar]

check wiki, theres a chart on that there iirc

[forest palm]

some thing like 1,079 ~ 1,348 books

[plain saffron]

apparently not options, but it doesn't lock itself to 60 fps now, emu can bypass this long time ago

[pliant acorn]

What does this mean? Is it like i dont have enough storage?

[cobalt rapids]

but it was buggy above 60

[jaunty vault]

that means restart your game

[plain saffron]

yeah but that was before

i still can't access CN codes so idk much

[jaunty vault]

who's the CN dataminer

[plain saffron]

[plain saffron]

try #tech-support

who is tianlangxing?

sirius?

[harsh cargo]

Good or bad cat? Idk

[atomic abyss]

depends on which rainbow skill

[harsh cargo]

Flame Aggression

[next iron]

trash

[normal crane]

meowfficer also have a tier list?

[harsh cargo]

Yeah for the real endgame ship fuckers

[steady beacon]

What I do worry somewhat about is that that is a uh... 3-point SR cat, rather than a normal 4-point SR cat, even though it does have Flame's, particularly because I'm guessing the yellow is the Helmsman talent...

[harsh cargo]

Ye

[steady beacon]

/cats Not a tier list per se, but I've not found a better guide, so far, than Riceist's, linked at the bottom

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[keen sable]

everyone's meowfficer is different so no

[steady beacon]

Put it this way, though, that is probably a better base Bishamaru than any base Bishamaru I've ever gotten so far lol

[harsh cargo]

It do be tragic for sure and as a F2P this is my grail for now I guess

[eager mulch]

cruiser talent

wait how do you whale cats

[keen sable]

f2p has nothing to do with it

[late flame]

i legit forget cats exist sometimes

[harsh cargo]

Okay more like not-endgame

[steady beacon]

Eh, is it a cruiser talent or Helmsman?
At least Helmsman will give a hilarious amount of EVA to a good number of hull types, for whatever little that's worth...

[harsh cargo]

IIRC people just use all their currency on cat boxes when they get to the point there's nowhere else to use it

[rain vine]

endgame doesnt change rng

[late flame]

just get a cat to lv30 (it will take a bloody long while but yeah) for opsi

[crisp estuary]

[crisp estuary]

Its pretty fast for cats

[late flame]

sure if your definition of fast is like 6 months

[keen sable]

the amount you can spend buying cat boxes is far less than the amount you can spend rerolling

[crisp estuary]

Yes. It is a marked change from before the rework where no one had a level 30 cat no matter how long they played

[late flame]

lucky me i did not go through that dark ages

also me: no second goldburn* sadge

[harsh cargo]

Can't you also apparently lock yourself with a full cat box and no way to get new ones?

[inner delta]

yes

well more like full of lv30

[warm flax]

What's the standard priority cat

[night pumice]

is the only way to farm commander xp just farming the map

[plain saffron]

you mean full lv30 cats or

[harsh cargo]

Yeah lol

[plain saffron]

yes

[night pumice]

shame

[warm flax]

Oh wait do you choose cats for fleets? No such thing as universal?

[eager mulch]

they only affect the fleet theyre in

[silk sphinx]

I mean, it’s mostly bb cats /cv cats /ss cats.

[night pumice]

are there any good vanguard ships I can get as map drops then from W1-7?

[silk sphinx]

You do choose which cats depending on the fleet

[night pumice]

if I'm gonna be stuck in farming hell for a while I might as well make the best of it

[keen sable]

go to PP SP5 in war archives...

it should remind you of something...

[silk sphinx]

W1-8 farming is the kind where you want to do the minimum possible of it

[night pumice]

well that sucks then, I'm 8 levels away from opening W8

[keen sable]

remember to use HELP

[keen sable]

irrelevant to PP SP5

[silk sphinx]

It’s just that there’s something called oilcap that increases farming efficiency

[night pumice]

I have no clue what this is suppsoed to mean

[silk sphinx]

At war archives there’s oilcap at SP5, a popular easy to access stage with oilcap

[night pumice]

ah okay

[silk sphinx]

Passionate Polaris

Otherwise the earliest you’d get oilcap is in world 9

Actually there’s w8 hard mode now

[keen sable]

@night pumice Passionate Polaris SP5 in War Archives

You might be able to try Iris of Light and Dark D1. But you may not meet requirements because one fleeter and no torp ships.

[night pumice]

yeah probably can't do that

[late flame]

tbh i kinda forgor wa exists lol

[keen sable]

ILD uses firepower not torp

[night pumice]

do you get anything for getting 3 stars on an archive map

[stone sluice]

So you feed them with other meowfficers… they actually EAT other cats LUL

[main latch]

ist she good

[atomic abyss]

she is excellent when retro

the issue is, her retro item does cost spec core so

[main latch]

Should work on sandy first before her ?

[late flame]

yes realistically though no

[quick mason]

is it fine to build vampires?

[late flame]

no lol

[quick mason]

eh why?

[atomic abyss]

vampire is one of the worst DDs in the game lol

[late flame]

she is collection tier

[rain vine]

neither are particularly worth it until you can reliably farm a lot of gold

[main latch]

does this count for IB tech ?

[atomic abyss]

little and muse ships do not count for tech

[late flame]

and collab

[main latch]

[atomic abyss]

she's on the level of commons despite being an elite

[late flame]

i mean, sure if you have resources and actually run out of good ships or super waifu bias

[night pumice]

we are sure there'll be a UR this month right? it's not just a guess based on past events?

[main latch]

What are Meowfficers max level?

[late flame]

CN anniversary around the corner so stay tuned

[atomic abyss]

it is a guess based on past events

[night pumice]

ah. and if I hit the pity for the perma UR which one should I choose

[atomic abyss]

but without fail, we have gotten a new UR on CN anniversary since we have gotten URs

"depends on a lot of things"

[atomic abyss]

30

[rain vine]

its a guess, but we're also assuming that CN servers will riot if there is no UR on their anni

[late flame]

i'm totally sure we will not see anson 2.0

[fickle scarab]

Livestream date out yet?

[torpid robin]

any good place to farm for little spee's trust?

[eager mulch]

12-4

[torpid robin]

shit I'm still in chapter 11 😅

[quick mason]

you know what I'll try building 6 vampires

[eager mulch]

very wasteful but ok

[south sequoia]

Even just doing 11-1 is fine

it doesn't really matter

[eager mulch]

no cogs

[torpid robin]

alright nice thanks

[quick mason]

how to lv up fast? do I only need to story mode again and again?

im stuck in 8 because im not lv 60 yet

[atomic abyss]

see here's the thing

[fickle scarab]

Do kms wa

[atomic abyss]

assuming you do want to make the very ill advised decision to raise 6 vampires

you can only raise 1 at a time by level grinding anyways

[quick mason]

i very know that but i need to be lv 60

[inner delta]

technically 2

[atomic abyss]

what, morale down time?

[inner delta]

no boss and mob

[atomic abyss]

oh right

[turbid dawn]

What the hell is a 'long range' AA gun?

[eager mulch]

timed fuze

[turbid dawn]

The timed fuze stuff from the gear lab that everyone says not to touch?

[eager mulch]

yes

[inner delta]

yea

[late flame]

*unfortunate but yes

[quick mason]

Tips for lv up fast please 🗿

[eager mulch]

Xp books

[atomic abyss]

use them in battle and xp books

[late flame]

whale

[whole crypt]

what level are you at

[quick mason]

what I mean is my commander, 56

[eager mulch]

oh commander level, just use full fleets in campaign stages

[quick mason]

okay

[eager mulch]

alternatively spend 5 dollar

[quick mason]

rather grind than use money

[lone vigil]

just started what should i focus on as a new player and where can i find it

[quick mason]

use the startership like I did 🗿

[eager mulch]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[quick mason]

thx guys

wait guys was hard mode in campaign is necessary?

[atomic abyss]

i mean, it is the only way to get core data, and the most reliable way to farm blueprints for retrofits

[quick mason]

what why doubt?

[eager mulch]

not the only way to get core data

[late flame]

and also do scam cat quest

[atomic abyss]

not good

[quick mason]

oh those letters?

[eager mulch]

mid aug bad ship

[atomic abyss]

heals frontline if she has a fuze aa gun firing

the problem is fuze aa guns are shit

[quick mason]

what is cat paws quest trying to do?

[eager mulch]

/wiki akashi quest

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[calm solstice]

Give you Akashi and her unique (and bad) auxiliary gear.

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline
but not a priority cope for scam cat getting a retrofit or really really awesome aug that isnt shit

[quick mason]

nahh that's 26 days?

[eager mulch]

theres an argument in favor of ignoring akashi quest

[whole crypt]

but doing the questline gives you 10 medals at the end

[forest palm]

just have every perm ship in the gacha pool than you don't need to worry about Akashi bloating it further

[whole crypt]

the augment's design is at odds with actual functionality in game, not worth bothering

[spiral ember]

How about the Scharnhorst augment is it good?

[late flame]

nope

[whole crypt]

it practically doubles her barrage, which is still shit

[eager mulch]

but its an improvement?

[whole crypt]

it's arguably better than NorCal's augment

[eager mulch]

#al-general

[atomic abyss]

Not the right place of such posts

[quick mason]

sorry

[lone vigil]

should i be spending the oil as a new player to redo campaign misions to get the full 3 stars by clearing enough of the support ships as it requires multiple runs

[atomic abyss]

Well... Considering you're likely going to get stuck due to lack of commander level at some point
And that 3*-ing maps is your primary way of earning gems as an f2p...

[final talon]

Is there any point in doing the META showdowns?

[atomic abyss]

I mean, if you want to actually get the meta ship...

[steady beacon]

The rest of the rewards aren't that bad either

[atomic abyss]

And well, they do give other resources too

[final talon]

I mean, true, but I don't see myself using meta ships

[atomic abyss]

Like cog chips

[steady beacon]

That's what we all said, until Jintsuu META happened

[eager mulch]

mfw i just answered this exact question in ectl gpg

[steady beacon]

Technically, we used Helena a fair bit too, in a bygone era...

[main latch]

Does this mean ill only get the IB tech when i MLB them or do i get the points for every Limit break ?

[atomic abyss]

I mean, there are some REALLY good meta ships like Helena and Jintsuu M yeah

[atomic abyss]

You get some when obtaining, MLB at lv120

[final talon]

yeah lol, chat was kinda dead there atm

[late flame]

its also a one time thing per ship, no points for raising dupes

[steady beacon]

Similarly, we were all sure we'd never seriously use the cruise pass METAs, until Fortune META happened...
We can never be sure when some random ship might prove useful tbh...
Which is why I will one day kick myself for missing Hime

[late flame]

FortuneM still shit for pvp defence though lul

[soft raft]

fuck where's the datamine link
expected it to be in pins by now but lol nope

[whole crypt]

nothing of note so you're not missing anything

[final talon]

I guess I'll try to do the daily meta battles then

[eager mulch]

dont need a datamine, server is up

[atomic abyss]

So nagami and sam's computers both decided to shit themselves as much as the augments did

And here we are

Scharn basically doubles how often she uses her sniping skill

NoCar got this weird skill where she now heals frontliners if she fires a fuze gun

[soft raft]

Bruh lmao

[plain saffron]

ouh i forgot EN is up i can just use EN

CN change their file system

[eager mulch]

nagami back to the rescue

[atomic abyss]

I mean I suppose you can make the argument that NoCar now heals as well as Arizona on certain maps..........?

Yeah my copes and dreams have been dashed

[final talon]

What are notable ships to use when fighting rodney meta?

[native trail]

is harbin good in the game?

[whole crypt]

depends on what you have

[eager mulch]

harbin good

[atomic abyss]

CVs really
So Haku Nano for most people

[native trail]

tbh i dont even know how to play this game proper and ive had it since release T-T

[steady beacon]

At this point, I no longer really believe in the Nagato comp, but you can find a comp in the pins
Riceist's comp is there, too, but it may objectively be harder to put together than the Nagato one

[atomic abyss]

I mean I still got my best performances with Nagato

But then again, I don't think most people will have Nagato raised so

[whole crypt]

the thing about Nagato comp is Nagato is really just there to speed up Hakuryuu/Shinano

[native trail]

who is nagato

[steady beacon]

Well, a fair number of servers have SR BB in their medals this month I think? So... it's... theoretically possible to get Nagato, at least...

[whole crypt]

to reliably clear Rodney M reliably in 2 shots you just need a staggered CV comp, doesn't need to involve Nagato

[native trail]

this person?

[steady beacon]

Whereas, either you have Musashi or you're shit out of luck

[native trail]

oh

is she good? should i level her

[worn isle]

Lol NCa have 5% Heal with 10s cooldown. Not that useful though, since Vanguard hardly take damage in W12-13.🗿🗿

[atomic abyss]

She's just very niche...
I'd argue you'd be better off slotting Musashi or Soyuz in

[whole crypt]

I already used NorCal since cap120 for ch13, the augment does nothing

[final talon]

yeah, I dont have or haven't MLB'ed and built most of the ships on those comps, I guess I'll just try to run all CVs then

[atomic abyss]

Just... Take note of the boss skills

[whole crypt]

the key to Rodney fight is just staggering your main fleet

[steady beacon]

I cannot stress that point enough, read the skills
Or you will really be doing peanuts for damage

[whole crypt]

CVs better for this fight anyway

[final talon]

Vanguard ships aren't really of concern right?

[whole crypt]

if you have high damage vanguards bring them

[viscid swift]

unironically Unzen is the one ship that is present in all comps

[quick mason]

I should do this again and again in campaign right (7-4)

[steady beacon]

Aren't really, no
Technically they can mess you up, but the chance of doing so at random is God alone knows how low and yet Agir somehow managed to do it

[atomic abyss]

from kms agir to kms anger

[worn isle]

You will waste a lot of oil with that fleet 😂😂😂

[quick mason]

ah don't worry I got 25k

[viscid swift]

that name is very much untrue and has quite the number of issues

[atomic abyss]

...wait charys was a dido class?

[inner delta]

is not was

[steady beacon]

She is
Not was

[worn isle]

but that is way too overkill for 7-4

[native trail]

can this do all of 10 1-4?

[quick mason]

then it's a bad fleet?

[jaunty vault]

how many times do you plan to get sniped pili

[atomic abyss]

yes, assuming the gear is right and hood swaps with QE lmao

[native trail]

my the names i forgot to change them 💀

[viscid swift]

by virtue of sheer level advantage of yes but there's issues with positioning and ship choice

[native trail]

what should i do

[steady beacon]

This is probably my penance for all my PvP snipes tbh

[viscid swift]

start a thread and post your dock

[whole crypt]

in before fail because shit gear

[native trail]

how do i do that 💀

[viscid swift]

yes, i you want more concrete advice on how to fix it start a thread and post your dock

[quick mason]

help me ;-;

[granite summit]

So NC wants a fuze aa gun now?

[atomic abyss]

well if you're using her aug yes
but just don't use her

not worth the 21k

[granite summit]

Whats the best one if i replace a bofers?

[atomic abyss]

twin 134 fuze then
but again, not recommended to use

[granite summit]

To late ^^
So thanks

[atomic abyss]

it's not great

[granite summit]

Or just ignore the fuze skill?

[atomic abyss]

if you ignore the fuze skill, they you might as well just use the normal purple aug

[worn isle]

Fuze is expensive as hell also 💀💀

[granite summit]

True...

[whole crypt]

I recommend you just ignore the augment

[steady beacon]

A bit of a stupid question, but... how does the "endless C1" strategy work exactly?
I don't think I've had an Operation Siren cycle ever where the game gave me almost no AP boxes, and I'm starting to contemplate desperate measures

[whole crypt]

you just keep repeating C1 until scamcat spawns and buy more AP, repeat, until you reach an amount of AP boxes you want

then you spend that AP repeating C5, after all special zones are cleared

[fluid brook]

[undone plover]

There is not much to it.
Repeat c1 pray for akashi and buy all ap boxes.
Dont buy all the purple tokens though or you will run out of coins eventually

[whole crypt]

scamcat spawn is RNG of course

you could get a scuffed run and end up with net loss over several hundred AP

[undone plover]

Long term you should be net positive

[whole crypt]

that's how statistics works yes

[steady beacon]

I'm fine on coins, and on everything else, just have no damn AP
Normally by this point in the month I've done all my hiddens and Abyssals (up to that point), with a good stock of AP boxes for me to do fleet change shit with

[kind slate]

can i get all copies of rodney meta if i start now?

[whole crypt]

@sullen creek there's no need to doubt, I have done it, and I have had runs which netted down to 0 starting with 200 to 300 AP

[undone plover]

If u are low on ap u might get unlucky at start and run out. I think having minimum of 500 to work with is a good floor

[steady beacon]

Never been this unlucky in memory...
Uhhhh... God, I have three blue and one gold AP box
I can imagine this luck following me to death lol

[whole crypt]

if you want to be sure to come out positive yes you'll probably want to start with over 500

[undone plover]

How did u run out if u dont mind me asking? Just did all the stuff prematurely?

[sullen creek]

That's just not enough runs

[whole crypt]

well RNG is RNG

[steady beacon]

I have no idea
I did exactly as I always do in OpSi... I usually start facing AP box shortages by day 3, maybe, but I still normally get more than enough to complete all my hiddens and Abyssals by this late in the month
I have... 7 Abyssals left stored, right now...
RNG really did not like me this month
Maybe because I went full on gambler against the anti-shell shield, last month and this month
This is my penance

[stark quiver]

Are these sub builds good?

Minus the torps

[undone plover]

If u have hidden zones left it might be a better idea to do them first. They usually give a lot of akashi spawns but also I havent tested it so not sure if that is actually smart

[steady beacon]

Nah, I've done all my hiddens

I'm more concerned about not having AP boxes because I'm planning a long slew of tests this month and I may have to dip into AP to perform all the fleet changes I want

[whole crypt]

I simply refuse to pay AP for anything at all besides zone entry

[undone plover]

Well daily missions tend to give ~1k AP over the course of the month and the passive income is also enough to finish all the remaining strongholds and abyssals but if u have some time to try c1 go for it

[kind slate]

how many meta points do you get per day?

[sweet merlin]

dooes propoted "pawn" fleets in opsi count as boss fleet for cruise mision?

[whole crypt]

max per day for META is 975

[undone plover]

375x2 + 3x75 if u can get 75 on support

[rain vine]

assuming lvl 15, 375 * 2 + 3 * whatever you make on support

[steady beacon]

It can vary
But the maximum per day is 375x2 + 75x3 = 975

Variations being if you overcap yours or if you can't get max points for assists

[whole crypt]

or just missing runs

[steady beacon]

[undone plover]

There is a lot of leeway even if u want to get all the milestone rewards

[whole crypt]

you usually get about 2 weeks to spare

[native trail]

why is this game so complicated holy moly ive played since release fr the sake of collecting characters and never really like got into the building part and this is so damn confusing T_T

but also whoever made these guides

[whole crypt]

it's complicated when you try to learn every mechanic at the same time

[native trail]

its really helpful

[fluid brook]

If it have the boss icon yes, if not no

[whole crypt]

there are cruise missions that count boss fights?

[jade ibex]

So NC is a healer now?

[whole crypt]

don't count on it

[viscid swift]

not really

given you need to use Fuze AA guns

[jade ibex]

5% every 10 seconds to vanguard seems busted

[whole crypt]

using the fuse guns isn't the hard part

[eager mulch]

using NC is

[whole crypt]

using NC with a fuze gun in a situation where the fuse gun can proc reasonably frequently for the heal to work while not being overrun by planes and having enough DPS

[jade ibex]

The fuze doesnt have to be on NC right?

[inner delta]

it has to be on her

[jade ibex]

Says “When a ship in your fleet”

[whole crypt]

even if it doesn't that doesn't improve things, fuse guns only fit on BB/BC/BBVs and you usually take 2 carriers to plane heavy stages

[viscid swift]

according to the EN skill description it doesn't

[inner delta]

huh

o well

[whole crypt]

the skill text doesn't specify it needs to come from NC but I saw that from NGA so

[viscid swift]

"when a ship in your fleet attacks"

[whole crypt]

again, bringing a second BB to carry that fuse gun for you doesn't actually improve your situation

[plain saffron]

yes but that's not the question

[viscid swift]

no, just clarifying the actual skill description

[plain saffron]

nvm i read up more it's the question

[whole crypt]

let me check NGA again

clarifying how the skill works is fine but ultimately it's useless

[eager mulch]

timed fuse on unicorn for ultra healing

[whole crypt]

this part, from NGA, NorCal needs to be part of the fuse gun proc

[plain saffron]

looks like it target itself

[eager mulch]

rip ultraboosted unicorn healing

[viscid swift]

CVs can't equip fuze AA guns

[inner delta]

even the cvl?

[eager mulch]

cvls can

[inner delta]

yea then uni can

[plain saffron]

wait no, it apply the buff to itself
but any shot(like normal) will tirgger it

[viscid swift]

Nope

[inner delta]

oh smh

[eager mulch]

oh cant take timed fuse specifically, my apologies

[plain saffron]

jus click the ? and screenshot the ingame tips smh

[eager mulch]

+6 hood gun

[whole crypt]

well I can honestly say it makes NorCal better for ch13, but ch13 is ch13

[crimson glacier]

when would you use her

[eager mulch]

when you need BB AA tech

[blissful hamlet]

Is that important?

[crimson glacier]

lol no

its a joke

[blissful hamlet]

[eager mulch]

NorCal also gives a decent amount of EU tech points tho so

[crimson glacier]

same amount as all other uss gold BB

[blissful hamlet]

Yeah I remember that cuz I already mlb her

[crimson glacier]

norcal would be good as a carrier but she is just awful BB

[worldly pewter]

when do they usually announce the anni stream or is it because cn they don't do the jp part ?

[steady beacon]

CN anni stream is done by CN
Uhhh... as for when they'll announce... usually by the week of, at the latest...
Although CN can be a bit weird with their streams

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head CN anniv stream usually not that early

[steady beacon]

JP usually announces a week before, and count it down with fanfare

[jade ibex]

Just tested it, its a lot of healing

[whole crypt]

it is, but where did you test it

because you could use NorCal in ch13 even back on cap120 when gear was worse and Unicorn retrofit didn't exist

[jade ibex]

13-4, 120volga 101 NC, 109 PeterS - Felix Chappy and Harbin,

[crimson glacier]

w13 was balanced around having bad ships

those are some insanely good ships lmao

[atomic abyss]

and i could be dumb but, wouldn't felix and harbin benefit more from volga's healing to begin with

[inner delta]

i mean nkt tested with guam even, in 15 and nc just not cut it

[atomic abyss]

the issue is just that NJ isn't good enough

[crimson glacier]

well w15 needs good ships and NC is awful

[jade ibex]

Probs, I'm just farming to lvl 120 for Fleet tech

[inner delta]

yeah

[whole crypt]

tell me if you get better results

[atomic abyss]

even back in 2018, NJ's niche use was for w12 pre-nerf, and pre-ACV introduction

[whole crypt]

you mean NC, NJ didn't exist in 2018

[viscid swift]

NC not NJ

[atomic abyss]

ah yes wrong bunnygirl

[crimson glacier]

acv really extra fucked NC

[atomic abyss]

wait nnt, who is that purple ship

[crude kelp]

Hammann 2

[jade ibex]

is dobule front better than circular formation?

[atomic abyss]

...ofc it is

you can make an argument for double and circular in w15
but if your front is dying welll

[crude kelp]

Can someone remind me of UR schedule.

[atomic abyss]

now if only nocar had useful fleet tech...

[viscid swift]

CN Anni is in about 2 weeks, should be a new UR then

[atomic abyss]

[whole crypt]

circular is better if your main fleet is dying because of leaking planes
it doesn't help your vanguard very much

[atomic abyss]

i mean, i guess that's a use....?

[crude kelp]

Sorry, i mean order not schedule

[whole crypt]

you mean the URs so far?

[viscid swift]

you mean for reruns?

[crude kelp]

Yeah.

[whole crypt]

next is VG but Rondo is before it if run in order

[viscid swift]

should be Vanguard, Musashi, Yortkown 2, Implacable, etc

[crude kelp]

Thanks

[whole crypt]

Guam and Shimanto using +13 rainbow AA

[atomic abyss]

once a tsundere, forever a tsundere eh

wasn't hamm2 a AA bote herself

or was it asw

[whole crypt]

high AAGE, two mounts, but shit AA stat

[steady beacon]

Both

[atomic abyss]

wait no, regular hamm was also supposed to be an AA bote

[whole crypt]

ASW she comes with her personal hedgehog

regular Hammann had AA skill but year0 ship stats

[atomic abyss]

[steady beacon]

Well, whether she's an "AA boat" is probably worth debating next to Guam or something, but she was used in W15 for her AA and ASW capability, back when we didn't have Guam and Laffey

[jade ibex]

How often do they release new Blue and gray ships?

[viscid swift]

pretty much never now

[atomic abyss]

many.... years

[viscid swift]

I don't even remember the last release of either

[whole crypt]

gray is practically never, I can't remember the last blue ship either

[gloomy mesa]

do you guys have any resources that can help me build an audioplayer that runs in the background?

[viscid swift]

last blue was probbaly Marblehead during Microlayer now that I think about it, or was it one of the login ships

[atomic abyss]

the last blue is IJN Oite

Who was Apr 2021 log in ship

[gloomy mesa]

ups wrong server

well i mean if anyone here is a flutter developer and can help, any suggestion is welcom, lol

[atomic abyss]

...she does not look IJN tho

aside from the sword

[wind hazel]

[steady beacon]

Isn't she kinda dressed like Mikasa though
Plus those distinctive single-barreled guns

[atomic abyss]

wait that's definitely not a katana

[cobalt rapids]

[inner delta]

[atomic abyss]

she looks like kino and mikasa yeah

[plain saffron]

sho looks IJN to me

[atomic abyss]

hiyou and junyou meta were elites right

[steady beacon]

Yep

[viscid swift]

yes

[whole crypt]

given that size no it's not a katana, it's probably an odachi

[woeful token]

Is the "long-range AA" part of NC's Augment the really bad AA guns for BBs?

[rain vine]

yes

[viscid swift]

yes

[woeful token]

Pain.

[whole crypt]

again the timed fuse gun is only part of the problem

[viscid swift]

well that's a given

[steady beacon]

Huh, the equipment itself says "Time Fuze" but the skill in EN, as written, refers to "long range"
Consistency, as always
Although, iirc either JP or CN calls them "long range"? @whole crypt ?

[thorny basalt]

She's still trash then?

[woeful token]

Doesn't help timed fuze AA mounts have zero visual feedback.

[rain vine]

yes

[thorny basalt]

Figured

[atomic abyss]

well i would hesitate to say trash

she's certainly not good but you could do much worse even for golds

it's definitely an improvement

[forest palm]

most localization teams are allergic to consistency

[viscid swift]

honestley anyone who never had to level pre retro Chen Hai hasn't seen true trash

[steady beacon]

Tbf it's not as silly as it being called ACC in the dock screen, then Hit in equipment screen

[gloomy mesa]

where does pensylvania drop?

[whole crypt]

the name of the system is somethingsomething mid-long range AA guns

but the guns themselves are called timed fuse

[atomic abyss]

i mean, conte di cavour for BB reload...

[plain saffron]

long range is the "type"

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, Chen Hai pre retro is true trash

[thorny basalt]

I'm leveling Houshou right now, is pre retro Chen Hai worse than that?

[steady beacon]

Yes

[inner delta]

you are understimating how trash chen hai is

conte is so much better

[plain saffron]

time fuze is the gear name
like somethingmm dual purpose gun that is an AA gun

[atomic abyss]

guild shop is the main place

[stark quiver]

How is Chen hai pre retro trash

[viscid swift]

imagine using a CV with only 3 aircraft and they all have to be sea planes

[whole crypt]

can we not remind me of how masochistic I was to level Chen Hai with no AA in ch12

[steady beacon]

Try her and see

[stark quiver]

[atomic abyss]

150% efficiency sea planes is.... something alright

[whole crypt]

your Chen Hai had 3 seaplanes?

[atomic abyss]

at that point, might as well throw on a twin 100 for more AA

[steady beacon]

Where does the type come in? Like is it a filter or something?

[stark quiver]

Oh yea btw I got the invite letter shit from new years and anniversary, should I open them for ships I don’t have?

[viscid swift]

if you're missing just one ship from each sure

I'd personally hold onto them until then if that's not that case

[thorny basalt]

The tier writeups for Hiyou and Junyou and their meta forms never fails to make me laugh when I read it

[plain saffron]

all time fuze have id 21 iirc

[atomic abyss]

on the bright side

at least nocar's aug is still better than sodak's...

[plain saffron]

i mean like not the literal type. man i'm bad at explaining

[steady beacon]

'tis fine, I think I get the basic picture at least

[plain saffron]

tldr name is just name

[gloomy mesa]

thanks

[plain saffron]

we have gun with name dual purpose but only act just for AA gun

[whole crypt]

I literally leveled Chen Hai alongside the Hai Chis and Chao Hos, with no other CVs, so that is 2 seaplanes and at least 4 ships that didn't have AA guns

[atomic abyss]

what even is this skill

[whole crypt]

welcome to year 0 game design

[atomic abyss]

at least massa had her skill fixed

[whole crypt]

I'd like to remind you NorCal's augment does nothing if

• you don't use a fuse gun
• your fuse gun ends up not shooting anything

[atomic abyss]

ok so... how would you react if i told you this isnt year 0 game design

[stark quiver]

Yea I was missing just yat sen, +1 cl reload

[atomic abyss]

nocar, sodak and wash actually had different skills lol

they were changed before they were even released

[whole crypt]

well technically it's year 2 or 3, they redid the skill I know, and then "upgraded" it with the augment, but they didn't change the idea of the skill and it's still shit

[atomic abyss]

[thorny basalt]

I'm at 20 or 21 CV reload right now. You guys think it's better to max that first and then worry about AVI fleet tech or work on AVI now?

[atomic abyss]

no im not talking about the balancing
their skills were legit changed completely

[eager mulch]

I hate it when devs change skill names like vanguards

[steady beacon]

Ah right, I remember reading in the wiki they had like uh
Some pair skill right
Union of the North and South or something

[whole crypt]

norcal and washington had their skills changed when FW rerun
sodak was changed alongside, but sodak was always available before that because merit

and that's "before they were released on JP/EN" because we never got the original run of FW

[atomic abyss]

well at least sowa was meta in pvp...

[steady beacon]

Honestly, the thing I find funniest with the name of that skill is that... South Dakota is... north of North Carolina, by latitude

[atomic abyss]

though

[wary hawk]

wouldnt that make it up dakota vs down dakota

[atomic abyss]

i suppose if wash got an aug, she might actually be decent

[inner delta]

the past is the past, reminicient in #al-general you go

[atomic abyss]

cos people actually compared wash with hood
there pretty much were no other barrage ships back then besides penny

[jade ibex]

Trying rn in 15-2 NC just does no dmg lol

[crimson glacier]

obviously?

she was the worst gold BB in the game before the aug

[stark quiver]

Is harbin good in w15

[jade ibex]

SoDak would like a word

[crimson glacier]

sodak is just better

she atleast can highroll

[atomic abyss]

wait

what did change besides proc rate

[steady beacon]

Light damage

[crimson glacier]

aug

[worldly pewter]

how can u make guam hit that hard or is it inflated by the AA damage ?

[steady beacon]

Iirc the light modifier doubled

[whole crypt]

for the record the test I did was on 15-3 lethal, and yes she does no damage

[atomic abyss]

as in the mods change- oh

what in the fuck are those armour mods geezus

[crimson glacier]

normal but with 2x usual on light

[jade ibex]

i'm on 15-2 lethal rn, wanted to 125 volga before trying

[whole crypt]

keep in mind 15-3 you have to account for subs as well

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhhh... base was 70/100/90
So upgraded became 140/100/90

[atomic abyss]

i mean you could.... but like, better to bring shimanto at that point...

[whole crypt]

and I intentionally ran it down to 0 ammo before trying the mid boss node

[atomic abyss]

harbin wasn a bit on the frail side too wasn't she

[whole crypt]

because that's when you'll see the nonexistent damage on NorCal become a problem

[atomic abyss]

or was shiman the frail one

[stark quiver]

But then again it’s gonna be a while till I do w15 cuz no UR AA and Aquila