gameplay-help

[keen sable]

it's not like an shan and seattle are hot potatoes

[viscid swift]

long term get Sirius and level her as well along a lot of the PR ships among others

[whole crypt]

how much are you clearing a day for 30k

[willow dust]

which prs should i focus on specifically

[viscid swift]

PR4, 5, then 6

[willow dust]

what does this mean

[whole crypt]

asking the other guy

[viscid swift]

give that a read for more info on PR
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[half plover]

does anyone know approximately how many cubes a player should have to hit pity in the next UR event

[willow dust]

400

[whole crypt]

you will need up to 400 cubes by the end of the event

[viscid swift]

you have approximately 5 weeks till the end of the next event probably

[keen sable]

275 is probably close enough

[half plover]

alr so I should be kinda good with 300

[whole crypt]

not like I have any use for OS XP, I'm just wondering how much stigma is basing on for 30k a day in there

[keen sable]

i think it comes with a 10 pull usually?

[whole crypt]

10 pulls worth of resources maybe, we never actually know until it comes

roughly how much XP is a fight in OS again

[keen sable]

500-700

[cobalt rapids]

depends on corrosion lvl

[elfin hollow]

Are meta ships worth to get?

[whole crypt]

if he's counting 30k including flag bonus that's still basically around 30-40 fights

[keen sable]

each c5 is 3 fights...

[keen sable]

explorables are a lot more

[elfin hollow]

For example helena meta

[keen sable]

are you saying you disagree with 30k and it's 60k?

[whole crypt]

I'm thinking it's less?

which is why I want to know what stigma is basing 30k on

[viscid swift]

they're all just tech by the time you get any of them maxed out realistically

[undone plover]

I recommend u get hiryuu, souryuu, ark meta first. they have better tech at 120

[cobalt rapids]

i think it was just a rough estimate

[elfin hollow]

Ok

[whole crypt]

I mean if you bother clearing out all nodes on a hidden that helps I guess

I'm just not familiar with the concept of ship XP in OS

[forest palm]

ops XP is just there for you to either soak, or throw in the trash

[whole crypt]

I have no real use of the XP when I need to use the ships in campaign anyway because I bother getting everyone to 100 affinity

[forest palm]

that being said the first clear of the month for every ops node is pretty good, and nothing to scoff at

[whole crypt]

I do give a shit about the commander XP though

it's about as good as 0 XP to me so

[keen sable]

@whole crypt that's per mob. 16 c5 for scrub ships. less for flag and mvps. less c5 because explorables are more xp

[half plover]

is it possible to run 3 cvs in 12-1 for leveling?

oh good

[whole crypt]

assuming sufficient levels and properly geared of course

[viscid swift]

there are no suicide boats in W12 so yes

[half plover]

yeah I just swap the gear around and my hood reached 120

so it would be probably better to start leveling more ships instead of trying to get to 125 already

[whole crypt]

explorables maybe, but I actually got a C6 explorable this month with no mob nodes

[viscid swift]

125 for mid-game is a low priority, especially when you have few ships that are worth getting to 125

[whole crypt]

when you're down to secure daily AP regen is 4.8 secure C5s

[keen sable]

sounds painful swapping gear everytime you want to farm

[pure geode]

it is what it is

[whole crypt]

well I'm doubtful myself as well but the map did screw me over on mob spawn, it's the first time I remember getting this shit

[half plover]

I have semi-good gear for 2 full fleets so whenever I swap a ship out I give it that gear

[keen sable]

I have never seen an explorable with no mobs...

[whole crypt]

I'm sure because it's a C6, and I meticulously summon subs for C6 for commander XP

[keen sable]

it's far more likely you killed mobs died and came back without realizing you didn't pay ap happens to me quite often (the dying, i don't always remember to stop the fleet so i can call subs again)

[whole crypt]

it doesn't happen because I start with boss nodes

the map was 3 promoted pawns and no mobs

moreover if I count at least 12 fights on a map I always manually pick nodes until subs are spent, then wait for resummon

also map had 2 cat nodes, auto always goes for cat nodes first so that's a fair sign I never autoed on it at all

[vale spindle]

Personally I'd mix in bbs cause triple bb (after you level all your cvs) is not fun

so mixing and matching makes it painless for everyone

[jaunty vault]

had to read that thrice to make sense out of it

[half plover]

I saw that zeppy has actually a FP stat so she might be best to slot in as the flagship lmao

[serene moth]

you can auto the ''lets move on'' once you clear a part of the map, if so how? i have tried in the settings

[half plover]

but yeah I am really missing good bbs that are worth leveling

my bismarck is only lvl 30 and prob not ready for 12-1 lmao

[vale spindle]

If you strategic search it should automatically pass it im pretty sure

[serene moth]

it does not for me

i have to manually press it for it to begin a new part

[vale spindle]

huh ive never had that issue

I think it might happen if you automatically do a siren construct or open a chest on auto then

[undone plover]

u have to turn reduce tb guidance on in options

[half plover]

will this fall apart 😭

[serene moth]

ah i see mb xd

[vale spindle]

maybe, but cause of the vanguard fleet

[undone plover]

level 70 non MLB flag is not ideal

[half plover]

it is mlb

just elite

[undone plover]

oh that is zeppy.... i c

your ship choices are a bit random what are u trying to achieve?

[half plover]

yeah I want to prepare a backline for FdG exp grind

I thought of bismarck zeppy peter strasser for that, but my bismarck is way too low

and I try to mlb some IB ships to unlock FdG like Koenigsberg

[eager mulch]

zeppy gives no tech

[half plover]

really?

isnt it just IB main fleet exp?

[vale spindle]

Yes

[undone plover]

better. i would just xp book/dorm that k class to level 70 and mlb her. running her for xp will be a headache

[eager mulch]

she gives xp but no tech

[vale spindle]

Zeppy counts for exp but that's all she counts for

Other ships give you mlb and level 120 tech but zeppy doesn't

[half plover]

yeah I try to mlb my vanguards but 90% of my IB ships are lvl 30

and letting them level up in dorm would take forever

peter strasser and bismarck are my main fleet ships I work on rn

[viscid swift]

Nothing else you can really do about it for now

[undone plover]

do you perhaps have another IB backline instead of zeppy? that xp will be wasted on her

[half plover]

I was leveling saint louis from lvl 45 on in 12-1 so it kinda works

all my IB ships

muse eugen is in dorm so I can get rid of a copy at 30 bc I am running tight in dock space

before anyone is wondering

[undone plover]

if u still have medal shop i guess tirpitz works better but if not then zeppy is better than nothing

although it seems u are also low on gold bulins

[viscid swift]

Just work on some other ships for the time being until the ships you need to use for CDC farming are ready

[half plover]

any recommended faction for that?

[half plover]

yeah I just got enough to mlb strasser and bismarck

[viscid swift]

No, I mean finish up the ships you need to level for your fleets

[half plover]

ah I see

seems like this team is somehow working on 12-1

[eternal basalt]

Depending on how many meta you got they may soon-ish not count to dockspace

[half plover]

oh really? muse ships alone not that many but I got enough copies to mlb eugen for example

[eternal basalt]

Meta, not muse ... sorry

[keen sable]

that's really weak but if it works it works

[elfin hollow]

What meta ship should I grind on getting?

[keen sable]

rodney?

[elfin hollow]

I mean this

Which ship should i get (is cuz out of boredom)

[viscid swift]

doesn't particularly matter, they're all just tech at the end of the day

pick one of Hiryuu, Ark Royal, Souryuu, or Helena and yeah

[keen sable]

the only one that was remotely useful was Helena META for QeM which should be coming up in a few months but QEM isn't useful so...

[novel solstice]

Some of them are good tech -- Soryuu Meta is +2 CV reload, which is worth getting. So you aren't going to use her after you level her, but if you are leveling stuff for the bonuses, that's a good one.

[elfin hollow]

Do you think Kearsarge would survive 12–4 with a 20% damage reduction.?

Or is the level advantage too high?

[viscid swift]

try and see what happens

though at least give her some better gear

[elfin hollow]

That’s what I’m currently running

[viscid swift]

why are you using 125 ships for farming W12

[elfin hollow]

I don’t know what levels should I be using?

[viscid swift]

using maxed ships for W12 is overkill and a waste of XP

use ships that need levels when farming W12 and the likes, if you need a carry use Unicorn is enough and ofte not neceesary anyway

[novel solstice]

Most people use 12 for leveling stuff. I usually farm XP there with ships between 100 and 120; using a 125 is missing some free XP.

[viscid swift]

that applies to the vanguard not just the main fleet

For reference this is what I'm currently using to farm W12

[hollow gust]

Cheeky you lazy asf, how do you still have backline ships to level

[viscid swift]

because I switched to vanguards soley after all relevant main fleet tech was done, came back to W12 for the BMs recently

[hushed cliff]

Can you do anything with prints you get of ships that are already dev 30

[cobalt rapids]

save for fs5
or turn to protocore if they are coinable

[hushed cliff]

Never actually have gotten one after reaching 30, but I have a Felix research about to finish and I’ll have no use for them so I’m curious

[cobalt rapids]

save for fs5 then

[hushed cliff]

Will do

[paper lantern]

do we know when the meta dockspace fix will ship or is that just soon™

[cobalt rapids]

iirc it was planned with cn anni or smth, might misremember

[viscid swift]

May yes

they didn't specify anything beyond that

[eternal moth]

Freeing up 32 spots will be nice for a lot of people

[copper chasm]

Is it worth to switch research focus to 1,2, or 3 to max lb those ships? I already max lb 4,5, and 6.

[eternal moth]

How many tenrai do you have?

[copper chasm]

I believe 2

[eternal moth]

I'd go for PR4 until you get at least 3

[viscid swift]

time to farm Plymouth guns or PR6 fate sim then

[copper chasm]

which one is plymouth gun?

[silk sphinx]

I don’t rly ever have the opportunity to use three tenrais tbh

[eternal moth]

PR5, quad 152

[silk sphinx]

I’d just go with series 5 if you want stuff you can use yeah. Or prep for pr6 fs

And snag a hindy gun at the same time

[cobalt rapids]

2 of each pr4>5>6 rainbow > 5 plyguns > w.e

[eternal moth]

Quad 152 is probably the most useful because both CLs and BBs want them, Tenrai is the most essential gear to have if you don't have at least 2, and you probably want at least 2-3 PR6 rainbow guns as well

[silk sphinx]

At least 2-3? Hm

[eternal moth]

Hindy and Unzen can both use them

[keen sable]

I don't like paying when it's free

[dawn crater]

Any possible way to improve my UvH

[soft raft]

looks good

[cobalt rapids]

bring gun to +10

[sweet delta]

Use conversion on the augment

And some other ways that are probably out of your reach like mk7 or 457, quad 152, and AFCT

[paper lantern]

does uvh specifically want afct or is that largely dependent on syncs

[soft raft]

depends on sync

[cobalt rapids]

afct is just the best bb aux in most cases

[sullen creek]

Where are you syncing uvh

[wraith oyster]

does aquila want all 3 skills rank 10

[viscid swift]

every ship you use wants their skills maxed

[cobalt rapids]

you should lvl all skills for ships u use to max

except portlands

[steep merlin]

Wait you shouldnt level portlands skills?

[silk sphinx]

One of her skills you will never use

Specifically the one that requires you to use Indianapolis in the same fleet

Who is a pretty bad ship

[cobalt rapids]

and the other skill is very low value

[eager mulch]

its more opportunity cost rather than them being worse when leveled

[sinful elk]

Chat is this some kind of bug

Oh wait i am a dumbass sorry

Do both of these girl worth using

[soft raft]

Kuybyshev might be depending on what other CLs you have

[sinful elk]

I think i only have royal and eagle cls

[soft raft]

that barely gives me any info besides their faction

[soft raft]

do you have like a screenshot
you cant just list two factions and expect me to have any idea on who you have

[stone sluice]

Even anchorage?

[atomic abyss]

absolutely

the only exception is maybe port kai lmao

[viscid swift]

if you're one of those people who keeps coping about the torp reload reduction on her blue skill don't

[sinful elk]

Sorry

[viscid swift]

even assuming 100% proc rate it does nothing to help get off an extra salvo of torps in standard battles and you're losing 10% evasion straight up, it was nothing more than utter copium

[soft raft]

ok besides Helena and Kuybyshev, everone else there sucks

But imo Kuyb wouldnt be a high prio for you to raise rn if you havent MLB'd Enterprise and Hood already (or at least Enterprise)

[stone sluice]

Interesting 🤔

[sinful elk]

I got both of them at lb2

[wraith oyster]

why is charybdis so hot garbage

[viscid swift]

any ship you're using you should mlb asap

[sinful elk]

I think i would go for hood first to ensure the mob fleet

[viscid swift]

bad stats and bad skills, nothing more to say

[viscid swift]

what exactly are your fleets anyway?

[wraith oyster]

tier N on the ectl sounds kinda of overkill though

[cobalt rapids]

you should mlb ur ships one at a time

[atomic abyss]

i mean

she might not seem bad, but then when you use good ships, it'll hit

[soft raft]

no it doesnt

[atomic abyss]

and what makes it even worse, is that she's an SR

so she's eating your gold bulins

[wraith oyster]

ectl even has her under konigsberg

[soft raft]

they do not rank within tiers

[atomic abyss]

as i like to say, this game has something called opportunity cost

[viscid swift]

ectl doesn't tier within tiers

[soft raft]

they sort ships within a tier by rarity then alphabet

[cobalt rapids]

they mean konigsberg is tier5

[viscid swift]

some questionable investments overall and no Portland but other than that looks decent enough

[soft raft]

oh right
eh if you want to complain, go do it on their server

This server is not affiliated with the ECTL

[atomic abyss]

and what makes it even worse, is that she's an SR
so she's eating your gold bulins

[cobalt rapids]

anyway ectl tier discussion should be done in their own server, thats what their channels are for

[eager mulch]

ECTL bad though

[sinful elk]

I put portland in main though

[atomic abyss]

you... don't need 2 tanks there

[eager mulch]

too early for 2nd fleet

[viscid swift]

okay can you post your dock in a thread, at the very least these fleets need some rarranging

[atomic abyss]

he's past w9

or rather just finished 9-4 lul

[cobalt rapids]

MLB your ships one a time and dont spread ur bulins especially UR ones

[eager mulch]

ig he can mash the best ships of both fleets together but the dude is using non mlb URs

[sinful elk]

Here

[atomic abyss]

the issue is that this guy really doesn't have much better

and i told him to use the hood fleet for level grinding in w9

[viscid swift]

Mob: Hood, Unicorn, Volga, Portland, Laffey, Javelin
Boss: Warspite, Enterprise, Theseus, Kronshtadt, Helena, Filler(probably Kyubshev)

[sinful elk]

My enterprise is currently doing little dmg so i'm lvling up her

[viscid swift]

yes, that's when you get Enterprise and Hood leveled up and max limit broken

[sinful elk]

Alright

[viscid swift]

I cannot stress this enough do not spread your bullins out like this, always focus on getting one ship max limit broken at a time

[atomic abyss]

and use your bulins on actually good ships

not charys

[viscid swift]

a 0 LB main fleet has less than 1/3 of the damage of max limit broken main fleet from limit breaks alone

even 2 LB vs MLB can still be 1/3 damage difference

[atomic abyss]

as i mentioned like yesterday

[sinful elk]

She appears when i do my 5 first pulls so

[atomic abyss]

you could have had a mlb NJ, but because the rainburins went into kron...

[cobalt rapids]

5 pulls

[viscid swift]

why are you doing 5 pulls on the light pool.....

[sinful elk]

Gambling addiction

[viscid swift]

we literally have the CN anni event in 2 weeks, save your cubes for then

[sinful elk]

It was way before when i start playing lol

[sweet delta]

whats the point of a thread if still chatting in main channel

[wraith oyster]

do we know if its rerun or new ur

[viscid swift]

most likely a new UR

[cobalt rapids]

99% new

[viscid swift]

call to arms drops next patch

[rich zinc]

[foggy phoenix]

Are the stats and buffs from new Augment Modules already known?

[cobalt rapids]

we will only know on patch day since cn gets patch out faster by a few hours so the stats will be up on cn client

[wraith oyster]

a new cl or dd would be nice

[sullen creek]

I support this

[atomic abyss]

[soft raft]

And I support moving to #al-general to speculate about the UR

[whole jolt]

I got one specialized bulin from the return event. Should I use it on my Bismarck Zwei immidirtally?

[viscid swift]

depends

[atomic abyss]

how far along is your zwei

[whole jolt]

What do you mean by that? I didnt limit break her yet and she is level 113

[atomic abyss]

[soft raft]

He meant the limit break level

[whole jolt]

Okay well zero

[atomic abyss]

i'd just save at that point
and not use zwei entirely

[whole jolt]

Whyy? She is carrying my every battle

[wet prairie]

should i convert my pr6 prints into rupert prints

[soft raft]

*This doesn't mean that she's bad, but like lol she's missing alot of shit at 0 LB

[warm flax]

Depends

[atomic abyss]

if your bis zwei is at 0lb carrying you

you have some serious fleet comp issues

[soft raft]

And/or the content is too easy so she's not getting her shit rocked

[atomic abyss]

because most other gold rarity BBs should be able to outdps her if they are mlb

[night pumice]

do I need to have a UR in order to survive at all in lategame

[atomic abyss]

your bis zwei is essentially missing like, 80% of her dps

[warm flax]

Yes

[whole jolt]

Well I was grinding just the event on SP5 cause I cant get further and in campaing im at 5-3

[soft raft]

Not really but they make your life a lot easier

[atomic abyss]

yeah, she's carrying BECAUSE of her level and not much else

[night pumice]

ah okay so they're very useful but not the end of the world if I walk away from an event without one

[ivory linden]

Pr ships will do just fine. Although gacha UR's make things a lot easier

[atomic abyss]

the tldr is
if your UR is not mlb, just don't use it....
you probably have better stuff in there lol

[night pumice]

in UR events the pity counts separately from the new jersey/shinano pity right?

[viscid swift]

as soon as you find a half decent SR BB and get them to the same level, you'll find they quickly outclass zwei in their current state

[whole jolt]

I have lvl 34 Hood...

[soft raft]

Correct
And The Perma URs are not part of event pools period

[atomic abyss]

and that hood, when mlb will sweep a 0lb zwei under the rug

[night pumice]

ahh okay

[whole jolt]

Really? That sounds weird

[atomic abyss]

as i said, a 0lb zwei is missing 80% of her dps

1lb is only changing that to like, maybe 50%

[viscid swift]

not really, here's the weapons and slot efficiency increases Zwei gains from limit breaks

[warm flax]

Back then my 5 star NJ outdamages my Nelson, is she carried by skill?

[eager mulch]

a lb0 ship is like buying a lego set but only getting the box

[whole jolt]

So I can lb her 1 time and not use her until i lb her to the max

[atomic abyss]

no

[sweet delta]

that's just the difference between UR and SR BB

[atomic abyss]

only lb your URs when you have like, ALL the bulins ready

[whole jolt]

Aha

[viscid swift]

0 LB compared to MLB she fires her main gun once every reload vs 3 times and said salvoes do more individually at MLB because of the increase in main gun efficiency

that's without even taking into account the stat boosts gain from limit breaks

and this is standard for pretty much every battleship

[whole jolt]

Okay... But why? Why use all bulind at once and not one by one?

[atomic abyss]

what if, a better UR comes out?

[whole jolt]

Aha... Well that is a really big difference

[atomic abyss]

i mean sure, zwei isn't exactly easy to outclass when mlb

but if let's say you lb now
then if a better UR comes along
you won't be able to mlb it

[viscid swift]

because you could be stuck in a position where you have one UR partially limit broken and another even stronger UR comes out

[atomic abyss]

opportunity cost basically

[whole jolt]

Okay... I get it now

[atomic abyss]

it's either all in or nothing at all really

[eager mulch]

buying one part of the lego set then a cooler set gets released

[viscid swift]

if you finish mlbing the ship you've already started on you lose out on using the stronger ship but if you go after the new UR then you have 2 partially limit broken URs which are weaker probably than SRs you already have

basically, you don't get that much more value out of partially limit broken URs while losing flexibility on you max limit break by partially limit breaking them

[soft raft]

Over time though, this won't be as much of an issue as you build up your specialized core stockpile

[whole jolt]

Yeah... I see now... Well so ill wait until i have another 3 bulins

[viscid swift]

I'll probably just copy that as an explanation to use in future

[whole jolt]

Yeah why not lol its a pretty good one

[cobalt rapids]

i agree the lego analogy is pretty good

[empty grove]

how do I get pure oxygen torpedoes? 😭 i need a lot more

[cobalt rapids]

coredata

[empty grove]

is that the only way?

[soft raft]

Rainbow one from core data
And purple and gold ones from IJN crates

And no you do not need a lot of Oxytorps

[empty grove]

thank you, and I think I do 😔🙏

[cobalt rapids]

yes, the only reason ud use lowers if ure padding trp stat for hm req when ure a new player

[atomic abyss]

Nah you definitely don't

There are much higher priorities in the core shop

[empty grove]

what auxiliary is better?

[atomic abyss]

/coredata

[eager mulch]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[atomic abyss]

The stuff in red borders are priorities

[empty grove]

ah okay okay

[eager mulch]

mfw sam's guides uses three indicators of priority

[atomic abyss]

Blame nerezza for making it that way to begin with

[eager mulch]

id rather blame the person who still plays al

[iron briar]

Seriously, i used 400 cubes and so much gold and i cant get noshiro m for collection, im so done

[wet prairie]

Noshiro is in WA

[iron briar]

No the muse one in this banner

[crimson glacier]

noshiro M not noshiro

[cobalt rapids]

but muse isnt, anyway saltmines is in #al-general

[wet prairie]

Didn’t see the M

[crimson glacier]

iseeyou

[knotty dome]

what is the oil hardcap?

[cobalt rapids]

25k

[knotty dome]

thanks

[outer compass]

there a guide for the childcare visual novel thing?

[cobalt rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488 not rly but u can ask here

[vale spindle]

There is a guide doc thingy in the pins of that channel

[soft raft]

did JP/CN notes confirm CTA this week or was it confirmed for next week?

[forest palm]

the following

[sharp socket]

is sandy pre-retro any good

[viscid swift]

no

[astral turret]

I'm ashamed to ask this question having played this game for so long - In opsi, is there any difference between hitting "exit" or returning to the blue circle to leave a hidden zone once it's cleared?

[viscid swift]

not particularly

[vale spindle]

One is slightly faster than the other thats basically it

[tranquil saffron]

What's the best way to grind adapts?

[eager mulch]

clearing the opsi map

[tender parrot]

hey. i just started to grind the shinano event today, what is the best node to farm trust (or can i even finish in time)

[eager mulch]

you have about 7 hours

[tranquil saffron]

Is there a faster way or a way to just grind 1 of the 3 adapts?

[eager mulch]

buying them

[tender parrot]

so

what is the best node

[eager mulch]

highest you can do ig

[cobalt rapids]

w.e node u pick ull be morale capped unless u rotate ur ships and then just grind in ur usual oilcap stage like w12

[eager mulch]

unless you literally started today you should have some trust just from playing other stages

[tender parrot]

so im getting 16 trust per node, 60 ish runs should be good right?

[eager mulch]

cooper changed his name to cooperskyler

should be fine but as ive said before, unless youve literally done 0 sorties in campaign/event then you should have some progress already

[tender parrot]

yeah im at world 7

later worlds give more trust?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[cobalt rapids]

as long as u started at w.e 1000 - 960 is yea its enough

[tender parrot]

oh nice im getting 16 from world 4 so i should get more in world 7

does the high efficiency thingy double the trust

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

think of it as doing two runs at once

this also means the downsides are doubled

[tender parrot]

ill just gem oil if needed (is that a thing)

[soft raft]

DO NOT

[cobalt rapids]

only for whales

[tender parrot]

ive spent a fair share on this game and i have quite some gems leftover

[viscid swift]

there are ways to increase trust gain while decreasing oil spent...

[tender parrot]

what

[cobalt rapids]

well best value is the 1$ pack (unless rly high cmder lvl or taxes 2 high ) > 2x daily refill (depending on comander lvl ) > event oil packs

[vale spindle]

Use fewer ships in the fleet

[eager mulch]

im at 3.6k trust rn, when can i get more shinano-chans

[vale spindle]

It decreases oil cost per clear but maintains the same trust gain per clear

[viscid swift]

only 3.6k slacker

[vale spindle]

This strategy works for all stages that do not have an oil cap / cost limit

[tender parrot]

ooo that means i have to resort to lower worlds

[viscid swift]

but yeah, decrease the number of ships you use, you lower you oil cost with the added benefit of having more ships to cycle through when morale runs low

[tender parrot]

noted

[viscid swift]

not necessarily, play around a bit to see what you can get away with and crunch some numbers

[tender parrot]

ok world 7 gives 22

[gusty olive]

What skill of Formi mu is not functioning properly? Or was that fixed already?

[eager mulch]

there was an issue in the first place?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

There is an issue

According to the code, her red? Skill doesn't upgrade with levels

[eager mulch]

[atomic abyss]

[fluid brook]

Which red skill?

[eager mulch]

still wont save her

[cobalt rapids]

the one with freeze

[jaunty vault]

wasnt it more like the skill itself is useless

[fluid brook]

Perfect curtain?

[cobalt rapids]

Listen Up!

[eager mulch]

im listening

[jaunty vault]

b-but the skill's yellow

[tender parrot]

good news i find out i get extra when shinano is in the fleet to defeats the boss. Now its up to 32 per run.

[azure crown]

is it mathematically impossible to have enough augment module cores for every unique module?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[azure crown]

sadge

[tawdry sluice]

We have evaluations on the new Sr muse ships? Or still testing

[jaunty vault]

in datamine

[sweet delta]

average gold ships

[jaunty vault]

do not expect #event-faq to be updated

[tawdry sluice]

Thanks

[tender parrot]

does morale recover normally? or do you have to put in dorm

[novel condor]

They recover naturally yes, but they recover faster if u put em in dorm

[tender parrot]

what happens when morale hits 0

[novel condor]

You will start losing affinity for your ships and also gain less exp from sorties

[viscid swift]

Your xp gain gets cut in half and you start losing affinity

[tender parrot]

yikes

[soft raft]

yeah so you better go touch some grass when that warning pops up

[night pumice]

I guess it's time for me to work on actual fleetbuilding now, cuz I'm about to head into 8-1

so uh is it a good idea to follow tierlists or not

[soft raft]

as long as you dont treat them like they're the bible and read the guidelines sure-ish
prob easier if you just post your dock in a thread

[keen sable]

SP5 is better than anything and far better than 7

[tender parrot]

already 1/3 of the way thru cant stop

[keen sable]

no idea what that means. sp1 is basically better than 7

you should not be doing normal chapters at all if your goal is shinano-chan and you really should not be doing normal chapters if you've never done event yet.

also the real way to get shinano-chan is to not one fleet. use her in boss only will conserve her morale which is the scarce resource.

[gusty olive]

Is Kirov Meta good for boss fleets?

[soft raft]

Depends on where exactly

[atomic abyss]

Some people did use her for this meta at least...
At least in the theory crafting phase

But usually there are better options

With carriers you can just use Impla or AvP after all

As for BBs, they have Zwei lol

[sweet delta]

if the battle ends in one salvo/airstrike, then she's one of the best options

[gusty olive]

the skill is appealing ig

though, not sure if should place her in BB or CV fleet

[atomic abyss]

Probably, neither

[keen sable]

do people even use T1 ships?

[atomic abyss]

Sirius is in T2...

Aurora is T1...

[keen sable]

two very niche ships

[atomic abyss]

I mean ignoring the subtleties of tiering for a bit

It depends on what the individual has obviously

Veterans probably won't need to

[keen sable]

is it an mlb KirM?

[viscid swift]

Kirov META is +2 CL FP, that is the most use I've gotten out of her

[atomic abyss]

I mean there's an argument to be made that you could slip her into some comps
But in most cases her niche is simply covered by other ships

In the early days of rodM, some people flitted with the idea of using KirovM to increase the hit rate of converging torps

Because you couldn't really use the typical backline slowers to their full effectivness given the boss mechanics

[sweet delta]

wdym early days, that's still the highest kill chance strat without supporting barrage

[atomic abyss]

You say that, but hardly anyone has mentioned her lol

[sweet delta]

probably because hardly anyone has a good enough account for anything above 50% kill rate

[atomic abyss]

Anyways, it doesn't change my original point about her being niche

RodM is an exception not the norm
(At least for now)

It's not like people are suddenly gonna up tier Nagato right

[sweet delta]

why bringing up tier again

[vale spindle]

She's niche in specific comps for this one meta fight as of current

just like Eldridge back in the day

[sweet delta]

depends on your options, kirov meta is quite good if you have a weaker fleet in opsi

[vale spindle]

No bulin mlb

[sweet delta]

because temperance and strength effectively lock your weak fleets down to two salvos/airstrikes, and kirov buffs one of them

[gusty olive]

probably in a BB fleet (full UR backline) since i cant fit her in the CV. Despite the CV fleet being weaker

said CV fleet weaker than my fucking META backline fleet lol

currently working on getting Ancho for a tank

[sweet delta]

my bad, a weak CV fleet doesn't reload fast enough to get kirov's debuff anyways

[gusty olive]

yeah, i dont think Enty, Ark, and Formi can deal with it

I once thought of slapping Kearsarge there but she's not even dev 20 rn

[keen sable]

and plymouth?

[gusty olive]

Plymouth is on the BB fleet

[sweet delta]

then kirov meta can go to your meta fleet

[atomic abyss]

No AvP?

[keen sable]

I don't know why you would use KirM instead of Helena on BB fleet then

[gusty olive]

AvP is the one I'm getting after Ancho

[gusty olive]

I slapped both

[keen sable]

I don't know why you would use KirM instead of Eugen on a BB fleet then

[atomic abyss]

I'm not sure why you went for Kearsarge before avp and ancho... But yeah might want to step on it then

I've used Formi for way more than I'd like to
And I can assure you, she's more a pain to use than anything else

At least, if you want Formi herself to do meaningful damage

[gusty olive]

I just slapped her there for slow

[vale spindle]

Ark is already the slow

You have some redundancy

[opaque galleon]

What do I do when I max out the good main fleet techs? Do I go for shit techs or use actually good ships when I grind vanguard tech?

[keen sable]

I read it as KirM is the slow in BB along with Helena and Plymouth which I find to be a really sus comp.

[vale spindle]

Get a list of criteria fitting ships and go through them in waifu ranking order

[keen sable]

max out the tech that's actually good but you thought was shit

[vale spindle]

*good vanguard tech > waifu unless it's a rainbow ship

[atomic abyss]

The issue with Formi is simple
While her slow is far more potent, the way it interacts with her own converging torps is... Wack to say the least
It actually causes her own torps to miss quite often

[opaque galleon]

All that’s left for main fleet is hp and aa at this point

[gusty olive]

the slow wearing off before the torps hit lemme guess

[atomic abyss]

Not quite
The converging AI still accounts for some level of motion ya see

[vale spindle]

Then yes just get a list of remaining ships and go through them in waifu order

[opaque galleon]

Aight

[atomic abyss]

I'm not exactly sure how to explain why Formi's torps miss tbh

[keen sable]

Ahh sorry misread it, you only wanted main tech. go do bm for unzen reload

[atomic abyss]

Just take it that it does

[keen sable]

stop wears off before torps arrive

[vale spindle]

the torps miss because the slow expires

[atomic abyss]

Or at least, the full stop does

I don't think the slow expires fully

And it's because it starts moving that the torps miss

[keen sable]

you can try to fix it with avgas or just use formi as the bb slower she is

[gusty olive]

yeah

[vale spindle]

Just read the skill its on the wiki

[atomic abyss]

It's more that she's just meant to be Georgia's best friend
Or really any super focused barrages

Which is...saying a lot of the state of the game

[keen sable]

the sync is dead. long live damage smoothing

[fluid brook]

What is avgas?

[sweet delta]

/wiki 100150

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/100/150_Aviation_Gasoline

[atomic abyss]

Aviation gas
It's an aux item in core shop that speeds up planes flying speed basically

From what I remember, avgas doesn't work for Formi because the torps are dropped earlier, and the aux doesn't affect those once they dropped out

It's not like she's dropping the torps on the shipfu's head

[sweet delta]

The skill works

[atomic abyss]

It affects the torpedoes after they've been dropped?

To my knowledge, all it did for Formi was drop the torps closer to the target

Which while does help, doesn't exactly solve the issue unfortunately

[sweet delta]

Increased plane speed obviously increases the plane speed. There's no special interaction with torpedoes

[atomic abyss]

I mean yeah
So all it should do for Formi was allow her TBs to get in closer before dropping the torps

But at least from my experience
It was never particularly effective

I guess it's better than nothing tho

[sweet delta]

Better to have a slotmaster look at what exactly plane speed does to payload aiming than give wrong information in gph

[plain saffron]

Who's slotmaster

🏃‍♂️

[atomic abyss]

Actually hold on
Fair point actually
Does it even cause torp bombers to drop their payload later

[plain saffron]

Prob need to check if payload drop is timed or position based

[night pumice]

i need some help with fleetbuilding, I'm at around chap 8-1 if that helps

[sweet delta]

It's both. But the part of interest is the allowed ranges

[atomic abyss]

Do create a thread, and show us your fleet with their equips, and your dock

[keen sable]

etoile is right to be cautious in actual answer but worst case is probably no. which means plane gets there faster. that's all formi needed. torps dropping closer would be the best case. the unimaginable case would be avgas just causing you to miss

[night pumice]

image attachments aren't disabled are they? I can't attach anything in a thread

[atomic abyss]

They're not tho

[keen sable]

create then post

[night pumice]

fleet

[atomic abyss]

It's Formi so I wouldn't put it past for worst case to happen

At least from my testing from years back
It shouldn't have any notable impact

[icy mountain]

may i ask who mugen is?

[viscid swift]

eugen muse

[icy mountain]

okay then

[cunning karma]

hello.. Uh need Help. how Can Make The SR aa gun gears more powerful on my fleet two. Im struggling on 13-2 because many planes still flyin Even they get hit.. do i need change Vanguard or Main fleet?

[jaunty vault]

depends, what do you have

[gusty olive]

Laffii with her skill and dmg control is cracked af

[cobalt rapids]

Is your acv green

[cunning karma]

Uhm…in my Main fleet.. Original Bismarck.. Full Star.. kaga and Akagi full star wich is 14K fire power… And my vanguard is atago laffey and Javelin…

[atomic abyss]

Fleet power is an irrelevant stat, it means absolutely nothing
And yes that fleet basically has no anti air

If anything, you need an entire fleet overhaul, not just changing half of it

[viscid swift]

that fleet is mediocre at best and I shudder to think what equips are being used

[echo axle]

Nice Vanguard, Atago fan as well

[sweet delta]

Dead vanguard isn't so nice

[jaunty vault]

[rain vine]

which the game doesnt care about, its going to throw 30 planes at your fleet

[echo axle]

[stoic jasper]

[atomic abyss]

Generally, you need a full fleet overhaul
Basically no anti air, and questionable ship choices
And probably questionable gear choices as well
I'd think it's a good time to rebuild your fleets
Create a thread, post your dock and your current fleets and we'll see what we can suggest

[keen sable]

use wyverns and flapjacks on akaga

[viscid swift]

have we even established if that's meant to be a mob or boss fleet yet...

[atomic abyss]

Have we even established if there's 2 fleets

[sweet delta]

if akaga can clear two 15-4 bosses then surely 13-2 can't be that bad, right?

[atomic abyss]

I mean in all honesty, akaga isn't the exactly the worst thing for mobbing tbh...

In theory you could go like uni kai akaga for w13

[stoic jasper]

Guys, i need tips for grinding coins, i really need them

[atomic abyss]

12-4 or 13-4 really

[keen sable]

12+

[viscid swift]

farm oil capped maps, 12+ preferably

[jaunty vault]

hello guys datamine when

[viscid swift]

you care about NC and Scharnhorst augs?

[eager mulch]

yes i care about NC bunny

[atomic abyss]

I mean, I'm interested in seeing what NC has

[sweet delta]

predl not up

[viscid swift]

honestley, after sitting through a number of these I have lost hope of seeing another good aug completely

[atomic abyss]

She was basically one of the few BB choices for pre-nerf and pre-acv w12 after all

[eager mulch]

at least KGV aug was an improvement

[sweet delta]

unfortunately these augs dont make UR-level ships

[atomic abyss]

Yeah
I'm only coping cos of kgv lol
But didn't pow get a significant upgrade with aug?

[soft raft]

Yeah Pow can finally buff her own faction after aug lol

[atomic abyss]

Or rather, pow got a rebalance and an aug...

[viscid swift]

it included RN ships in her buffs and she got a bit of a boost

[atomic abyss]

At least, I remember she got a rebalance before her aug

[keen sable]

that too

[atomic abyss]

The original skill was

The more Americans the better she gets buffed!
But absolutely nothing else on that skill!
Poggers!

[silk sphinx]

My main problem with aug is that you don’t get enough mats

[viscid swift]

that is also an issue

[atomic abyss]

Frankly it's a decision that has mystified me to this day
I don't see the point in doing so

[silk sphinx]

I think I have around half crafted total at +10, even getting everything in shops

[echo axle]

What's the point of Zwei being in the fleet again? Is she for mobbing or for Boss fights? 💀

[viscid swift]

she's good at both, usually more valuable on bossing

[keen sable]

you can collect everything in the game as f2p except 500 blue augs

[atomic abyss]

Basically, the black hole
She's better for bosses usually

[echo axle]

Alr, boss fleet it is, then NJ goes to mobbing for me

[atomic abyss]

Waaaaait
Who even is on the boss fleet currently

NJ too prefers boss

[silk sphinx]

Something historical allusion

[atomic abyss]

And wait, are both Zwei and NJ MLB?

[echo axle]

Zwei is MLB, NJ still working on it

[silk sphinx]

On mob it’s fine

[atomic abyss]

Then drop NJ entirely

[echo axle]

[silk sphinx]

What are your options?

[echo axle]

Nuh uh, have to grind affinity first to marry

[viscid swift]

you can do that after you MLB her...

[sweet delta]

bullins

[echo axle]

Hood

[echo axle]

I'm saving my Cores

[silk sphinx]

Sure.

Just be aware you’re missing a lot of her damage

[echo axle]

Hmm, will be sure to

[gusty olive]

even arbiter normal kicks ass lol (had to exit 3 times)

[echo axle]

I have Musashi tho and she's worse

[atomic abyss]

What

[silk sphinx]

In what way exactly?

[soft raft]

At 0LB maybe but that's just factually untrue if MLB

[echo axle]

I def did not make a mistake by pulling on her banner

[viscid swift]

I'm lost here...

[soft raft]

She is literally like top 3 UR BB, how is that a mistake?

[gusty olive]

In which fleet is Laffii usually put?

[echo axle]

I have no Bulins for her

[viscid swift]

it depends, on the content, on the rest of the fleets, etc

[sweet delta]

yet you have bulins for NJ

[echo axle]

I only have enough to MLB NJ fully rn

[silk sphinx]

pvp

[echo axle]

Perhaps, I have 12k cores meaning 3 Bulins and I have NJ at 4 stars

Hopefully my calculations are correct

[silk sphinx]

Lb1 NJ

[echo axle]

I know it's cursed ☠️

[viscid swift]

honestley that's pretty normal around here, sadly

[silk sphinx]

Anyhow do you actually have a question?

[sweet delta]

if i were in your unfortunate shoes, i would definitely save the bulins for either musashi or the new UR or possibly whatever good else you might have besides NJ

[echo axle]

Should I go all in and MLB NJ first so I can grind to W12?

[viscid swift]

you don't NJ to clear or farm W12

[soft raft]

You can do W12 just fine without NJ

[silk sphinx]

She’s a great ship for sure, at lb1 though you could skip her

Especially given that I see that you have multiple Ur bbs already

[echo axle]

Alr, will do for now, thanks

[silk sphinx]

Frankly she’s suffered from power creeping a little

[keen sable]

you're not going to oath and leave her at X/100 are you?

[silk sphinx]

Anyhow new UR event this month so you could look forwards to that

[viscid swift]

2 weeks and counting

[echo axle]

180 cubes, am I cooked?

[echo axle]

No, I'll oath and keep on pursuing her unless of course, I run out of my Bulins

[keen sable]

12k is 3 bulins

[silk sphinx]

Supposing you did 100 pulls, you’d have 70% of snagging the Ur ship

Good chance you’ll have more than that

[echo axle]

Is Monarch a good replacement for NJ for now?

[atomic abyss]

Hood with augment is just better than monarch tbh

[silk sphinx]

Lol at mlb no. At lb1… nj might still be better?

The gap is pretty immense normally. Level advantage also applies

[sweet delta]

a lb1 mob bb is not at all good in chapters 10 to 11

[atomic abyss]

Nope, both bad

[silk sphinx]

I mean, I did forget about interception. And yes you shouldn’t rly use either

[sweet delta]

predl up

[ashen tartan]

Hey I just finished building the power plant in ship simulator and was wondering what is next to do in the game help pls

[silk sphinx]

Are you playing Azur lane?

[crisp wadi]

it ain't arknights

[gusty olive]

Guam, Kazugumo, and Sirius in a CV fleet is alright right?

[soft raft]

What
Have you double checked what server you're on?

[ashen tartan]

I thought this was a server for all there game and it said help chat so I ask my question

[silk sphinx]

Anyways this server is for Azur lane specifically

[viscid swift]

this is a server just for Azur Lane

[soft raft]

The thing is, there is nothing in Azur Lane that's called "Power Plant" or "Ship Simulator" so we have no fucking clue what you're talking about

[silk sphinx]

Any queries related to or concerning other games don’t belong here

[soft raft]

if you're gonna discuss other games, #off-topic or that game's dedicated community server would be a better fit

[ashen tartan]

Oh it a game they made sorry

[gusty olive]

should I put dmg control on Guam instead of it being on Laffii in another fleet?

[silk sphinx]

~~I’m actually curious now whatever the heck you’re talking about ~~

[gusty olive]

was thinking of putting Laffii in the CV since she just dont wanna die

[viscid swift]

just standard cruiser axues fpr Guam

if she actually makes use of that skill then I'd say you have bigger issues...

[silk sphinx]

Guam is very beefy, the other ships would die a lot earlier than her and she herself shouldn’t normally suffer from fear of death

as for laffii… do people use her in cv boss fleets?

[gusty olive]

she usually dies first when I did normal arbiter (though maybe because of my movement)

[silk sphinx]

I stuck her in mob, didn’t see a point to using her elsewhere

[viscid swift]

I do use her in the other CV fleet for keeping concealment

[silk sphinx]

Oh fair enough I guess.

[runic bolt]

nj or gascone for mob fleet opsi?

[tender parrot]

yay done with event only 3 hours

[eternal moth]

Any info on the new augments?

[rapid grail]

good morning chat how long will the maint be for next daily reset?

[south sequoia]

Who even are the ships rhat'll recieve thw augment

[eternal moth]

NorCar and Scharn

[rapid grail]

scharnhorst and norcar*

[grizzled creek]

Is it fine/normal for my ships to be under leveled in campaign ? They spike in levels quite a bit

[eternal moth]

#game-news message

[rapid grail]

Over level them as much as possible. Level diff alone will get you far to World 11-12

[jaunty vault]

as long as you kill the enemies

[grizzled creek]

Is there a easy way to level em like that early

[sweet delta]

probably no barrage gif from me today because the json repo is stuck

[grizzled creek]

Only on chapter 3 rn

[tiny gulch]

https://i.imgur.com/kv38vS4.png is this the best IJN CL gun?

[rapid grail]

oh u on chapter 3... Get any gears and then Limitbreak them using duplicate copies of your ships and/or Bulins

[eternal moth]

Read this then https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Although she's not going to do much with her guns anyways

[grizzled creek]

Is there safe options for it ? I read the newbie guide for the game a couple times , unless it depends on who I have

[atomic abyss]

Basically, the best way to level early on is play the game

[grizzled creek]

I did see it said try n focus 1 character at a time

[atomic abyss]

There's no real shortcut to it

What the guide advises specifically, is to limit break one character at a time if your resources are limited

[rapid grail]

Get some limitbreaks for your ships in your Fleet 1. That's already a big increase in damage

[atomic abyss]

And also what comp is ideal for a new player to have

[grizzled creek]

Hm

So I just gotta farm those Bulins or own dupes ok I get it now

Is there anyone worth giving those to

[atomic abyss]

Besides the ones in your fleet 1 already? Only Saratoga

But she'll be for your fleet 2, when you make one eventually

[grizzled creek]

So she's the main one ?

[viscid swift]

any ships you use are worth limit breaking

[grizzled creek]

I see so the bulins will build up a lot then ?

[atomic abyss]

Not really

[wind hazel]

limit break your Unicorn, Portland, Pennsylvania

[viscid swift]

in a way, if you use them wisely then you'll get by just fine

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12An7zeoU17Mi9YWS0OXq-GJvjMc2-3VE6vF6KGcV6bA/edit?usp=sharing

[atomic abyss]

They won't pile up much for a new player tho
Maybe once you're more into the game it will

[grizzled creek]

Hm

[atomic abyss]

So this pretty much

[grizzled creek]

Ok I'll do those ones first then

[viscid swift]

Helena, Laffey, and Enterprise as well

[kindred dust]

Will scharn and nc augment be good?🥲

[grizzled creek]

Ok will do, I'm tryna think what order I'll do em in

[viscid swift]

doesn't really matter

[grizzled creek]

Also thx y'all

[viscid swift]

you'll want to do them all asap

[grizzled creek]

So they'll all make it big difference regardless each

[viscid swift]

more or less

[atomic abyss]

Dunno
We don't know anything about the augs yet

But unlikely to be game changing

[wind hazel]

well, there's certainly an order to this. eg, don't limit break your helena before unicorn or portland, for example

[atomic abyss]

The highest priority for LB are backliners basically

[kindred dust]

I like both of them, nice to see them get attention.......😭

[grizzled creek]

That's nuts

[south sequoia]

Unless the augments completely rework their skills into something else I doubt it'd actually change anything about them

[grizzled creek]

One more thing for the night , I don't recall reading it anywhere but what's the most optimal things to use gems on

[south sequoia]

Dorm slots and dock space

Avoid classroom slots

[grizzled creek]

Ok thx u

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KVOhAOz9wwZK0gQON0PLJrDkPEp6vg66Fh8U2LoYG4/edit?usp=sharing

that basically

[crisp wadi]

Is there any new ships today's MT ?

[viscid swift]

at minumum 3rd dorm slot and the 2nd floor, then the rest on dock space

[grizzled creek]

Thx u

[kindred dust]

Waiting for scharn and gnies retro one day........

[crisp wadi]

One last question, in second floor dorm, can I unlock 6 slots even tho my first floor still two slots?

[atomic abyss]

No

[viscid swift]

no, the 2nd floor matches how many slots you have on the first floor

[atomic abyss]

The slots you get above is equal to the slots on first floor

[solid juniper]

Sorry for asking, how do I clear the last one, I thought this one could do, but no?

[crisp wadi]

damn, I thought I can focus on 2nd floor

[south sequoia]

Did you claim from mission tab yet?

[viscid swift]

have you collected the reward from the mission

[solid juniper]

Uhmm

Ohh, this...

Sorry, Im kind of sleepyhead I guess

Thank you thank you

[turbid shell]

i can't clear EX stage event, game instantly return to title screen and sometime stopped working
is it happening to several people here too?

[viscid swift]

I was able to do EX just fine

[solid juniper]

Mine lagged as well, but, I just restarted my LDPlayer

[rapid grail]

is the EX similar to last event EX? Not counting rerun EXs here

[viscid swift]

you just run a full fleet and auto it

[grizzled creek]

Oh wait uh actually one more thing sorry , do I only get those 4 guild shop characters once or get dupes for Lb?

[viscid swift]

you can buy dupes for limit breaking if you so desire

[grizzled creek]

Would u recommend that over the other stuff

[viscid swift]

not particularly truth be told

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#guild

I'd rather get other resources such as tech boxes which will be a bit more useful

[wind hazel]

just save your guild coin, purple bulin isn't a scarce resources

[grizzled creek]

Ok

[wind hazel]

you're still plenty of levels before lv70 so you will get more than enough later on before needing them again

[grizzled creek]

Ok thx , that should be all for tonight ... I do apologize for so many questions, I just like to try my best to be optimal in games

[wind hazel]

dont be, this channel is meant for question

[turbid shell]

i give up, last event EX is fine
it just weird the game run smooth but it keep throw me up in this E.X. stage

[sweet delta]

North Carolina augment: 35 FP, 20 HIT, same skill as Officer's Sword. Changes "AA Protection" at +10.
Scharnhorst augment: 30 FP, 20 RLD, same skill as Officer's Sword. Changes "Sniper" at +10.
no further information because the mines have collapsed

[atomic abyss]

Oh god the mines have collapsed
Think about the children

Oh right
Scharn was the one with the discount warspite skill wasn't she

[vale spindle]

my computer is scuffed and nagami is busy and minor patch so there wont be a sheet today

just wait for en wiki to update and pray en skill desc doesnt fuck up

[fluid brook]

[atomic abyss]

You'll probably be able to fix your computer more reliably than the game's description...

[sweet delta]

did CN patch notes say anything about 3d ships? Sirius?

[vale spindle]

maybe but have you tried functioning on a laptop that takes 6 hours to fully charge using a phone usbc cable for only 1.5 hours of battery life due to both being an old laptop + forgetting your laptop charger :)

[silk sphinx]

what kind of computer are you even using

[wind hazel]

scuffed one

[atomic abyss]

A potato computer being charged by literal potatoes

[vale spindle]

From lsy

[silk sphinx]

very much not literal but yep

[atomic abyss]

That reminds me
We never got that 1 fletcher that chucked potatoes did we

[vale spindle]

dell inspiron something

It has seen better days

[jaunty vault]

did CN patch notes say anything about meta dock space

[viscid swift]

not yet

[silk sphinx]

what's that about?

[jaunty vault]

whats what about

[viscid swift]

no

[jaunty vault]

[fluid brook]

For this Musevent we got 6 muse ships r? and ShinanoChan

[jaunty vault]

yes

[fluid brook]

ok, thank you

[jaunty vault]

np

[atomic abyss]

So, the most decorated US DD in WW2, USS O'Bannon
Has this story of it being attacked by a surfaced submarine at super close range that they couldn't fire guns
And lacking alternatives they chucked potatoes at it

And it ran off

*This is most likely fiction

[jaunty vault]

lmao

[fluid brook]

i ma investigate about it

kinda have some interest

[atomic abyss]

But it was a well known myth

[vale spindle]

such gph in my gph channel very poggers

[jaunty vault]

smh backseat modding

[atomic abyss]

Have we even gotten a new fletcher since 2018?

[jaunty vault]

ban pls

[vale spindle]

morrison and potter

Is morrison a fletcher i forgot

[jaunty vault]

how new is mullany

[viscid swift]

not very new

[vale spindle]

then yes its morrison

[jaunty vault]

/wiki morrison

smh broken bot

[atomic abyss]

But as of recent
We've mostly been seeing Allen M Sumner classes for the US ones right?

[viscid swift]

yep

[vale spindle]

Did you put a \ before the command

[vale spindle]

What is hammann ii considered

[jaunty vault]

why would i do that

[atomic abyss]

[vale spindle]

Cause it doesnt run ths command

[viscid swift]

she's a destroyer escort

[vale spindle]

no like class wise

[atomic abyss]

Edsall class supposedly

[fluid brook]

Edsall says wiki

[vale spindle]

[viscid swift]

Edsall class

[keen sable]

still waiting on USS England. Not to be confused with HMS Enterprise.

[atomic abyss]

Wait, Cooper is Allen M Sumner too?

[fluid brook]

This naming

[viscid swift]

yes

[atomic abyss]

Speaking of the Sumners
Did people actually use Ingraham for AA

[jaunty vault]

i did

[viscid swift]

probably, not that it got very far nor lasted that long

[jaunty vault]

in w13

[vale spindle]

She is functional

[forest palm]

wasn't Cooper the first AMS released

[sweet delta]

i've used worse in 15

[jaunty vault]

but did you use ingraham

[sweet delta]

i did
in w13

[atomic abyss]

Cooper was first yes

Then it was AMS
Then Ingra

[forest palm]

people sure do like to memory hole Microlayer

[hollow gust]

Ingraham was recc for w14 when it first started

[atomic abyss]

I mean for good reason

Who wants to remember the fact that a lot of people were unable to log in for 3 whole days

[fluid brook]

i am curious, what happened for it to not be able to log in?

[jaunty vault]

maintainenence

[atomic abyss]

I don't think the reason was ever revealed publicly

[fluid brook]

[jaunty vault]

server overload

amagi was born

[forest palm]

I guess you could say the levy broke

[atomic abyss]

I mean I do know what happened and honestly it was pretty dumb

Let's just say it was a simple issue complicated by spaghetti code

[jaunty vault]

so you know what happened and it wasnt revealed publicly

[sullen creek]

He has proprietary code access :zamn:

[jaunty vault]

mod priveliges be like

[atomic abyss]

I mean I was there when the flood gates broke

Some people were still able to access tho

[fluid brook]

From when was the problem?

[atomic abyss]

Day of maintenance and additional 2 days

[fluid brook]

No like, which year it happen

[atomic abyss]

Mar 2021?

[forest palm]

to top it off the event ships were underwhelming to a certain extent

[atomic abyss]

Ehh Alabama was one of the best mobbers at the time

[forest palm]

Microlayer was not Alabama

[atomic abyss]

Wait was it not

Fuck I'm old

[forest palm]

Intrepid, Reno, Bremerton, Cooper, and Bluegil

[vale spindle]

Microlayer was intrep brem

[covert pike]

hi are there event missions for the shinano-chan event? it says there are on the event page but i can’t find them

[atomic abyss]

There are no missions unlike mini Cheshire

The only way to get her is grind grind grind

[vale spindle]

all the shinano chan rewards are milestone based

[forest palm]

oh, right Marblehead, and the only real prize of that event Casablanca

[fluid brook]

You must just grind stages and get point to unlock her

[viscid swift]

Good luck with 2 hours left

[fluid brook]

You can grind with the NPC for more affinity iirc

[atomic abyss]

Yeah Casablanca was the only real good ship...

[vale spindle]

Dont forget the rerun bringing ing and naut

[keen sable]

The milestones are called missions

[fluid brook]

At times like this HELP is really useful

[forest palm]

I exclude them simply because we're discussing the original run that had the server out for 3 days

[atomic abyss]

I mean

There's help, and then there's physically impossible

Unless you're almost done
I don't think it's possible to completely grind her points in the next 2h

[keen sable]

I think you can still kill sp5 boss 14(x2) times in 2 hours.

[fluid brook]

Oh you can use NPC for double point drops so it will be 28 run from SP5 to get to 1k

ShinanoChan doesnt need to survive boss for the bonus point drop?

[keen sable]

14 with HELP

she does but you can book and mlb her

[knotty dome]

did the previous muse events also have this rhythm game?

[fluid brook]

And i actually need to do it

[knotty dome]

thanks

[fluid brook]

@keen sable Did we got the minigame for pasts muse events?

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Universe_in_Unison#Cosmic_Concert

sustain notes are the new feature i believe

[fluid brook]

sustain notes are the album mini game?

[keen sable]

the older songs don't have them

no you need to hold the note for the indicated period

[fluid brook]

Oh

[fluid brook]

damn 2020, it was before i began playing

[solid robin]

question, if a ship is lvl125 with 3m exp, can it still be used for pr farming?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[solid robin]

oh ic, thanks

[fluid brook]

@knotty dome We did have the manjuu Karaoke feature before

I am still learning

[tidal meteor]

Predl up?

[fluid brook]

sam got a problem with his computer so prolly no

[tidal meteor]

Sadge

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

#gameplay-help message

[jaunty vault]

maint finish?

[sweet delta]

Will en players have to redownload or update the client from store after this maint?

[fluid brook]

Wait explain it to me, wdym

Ah i understand mb

[sweet delta]

It seems that CN players have a mandatory update

[eternal basalt]

Prob, unless we don't get these features.

[eternal basalt]

No, it's just for Hard

[eternal basalt]

cough 2020

[plain saffron]

which one of them is most decent

[crimson glacier]

hows klaudias damage

[plain saffron]

also is there no datamine yet

[fluid brook]

#gameplay-help message

[plain saffron]

hmm link to link

What happened to sam

[fluid brook]

#gameplay-help message

[crimson glacier]

i cant believe sam is fucking dead

[keen sable]

yes i was wrong sustain and golden notes are og features but the description of hard only is wrong. sustain notes are clearly in Heart easy.

[fluid brook]

hes not, hes just unable to do his work

[eternal basalt]

Did CN Patchnotes reveal the new UR yet?

[crimson glacier]

truly a big loss for the community

[hollow gust]

so hes dead

[fluid brook]

No he can revive and can also be summoned

[plain saffron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VO4zKZjNNrLtCLRq3kg0a2C13cxhITOknP1TQlDug10/edit#gid=0
i guess time for me to shine

[crimson glacier]

is there even anything to mine except some augs

and the augs will be bad anyway

[fluid brook]

bitcoin

[plain saffron]

Welp rip my laptop crashed i think, my anydesk freeze

[elfin hollow]

Here it links me to the last maint resume with chapayev and comet augs

[crimson glacier]

i cant believe nagami is fucking dead

[plain saffron]

I can't believe it too

[hollow gust]

...he hasnt even started, let him work smh

[elfin hollow]

Oh I thought it was over

[plain saffron]

Gonna take a while

[crimson glacier]

ah yes

[plain saffron]

This patch?

That explains why everything got nuked

[vestal thistle]

Should I spend last 6 pulls for Formidable or wait

[crimson glacier]

what are you waiting for

[vestal thistle]

Frederick

[crimson glacier]

im not sure how formi and fdg are related

[vestal thistle]

The next event

What are the ships

[crimson glacier]

idk

[plain saffron]

Nobody knows

There's no announcement for the stream even yet

[vestal thistle]

What's EX

Frederick ex

[plain saffron]

Never heard of it so idk

Ouh the voice?

That just means she get voice for her post-oath lines now

EX is post oath lines idk why they named it like that

I guess because some doesn't need oath but 100 affinity?

[atomic abyss]

Anyways

[vestal thistle]

Honestly I might oath her

[atomic abyss]

The point is that Frederich Karl isnt coming out with this maint

[plain saffron]

Anyways yeah that's just her getting voice, not a new ship

[atomic abyss]

She was already released in a previous event

[vestal thistle]

I know

[atomic abyss]

She's just getting a voice now

[vestal thistle]

I have her
Thought they made a new one

[plain saffron]

If you mean you want to wait for her it's gonna be 2 years

[vestal thistle]

???

[tame orchid]

are you trolling

[vestal thistle]

Two years?

[jaunty vault]

nagami, he already has carl

[tame orchid]

💀

[atomic abyss]

Nagami ENed

[vestal thistle]

Two years for what

[atomic abyss]

Nagami he already has Karl

[sonic hemlock]

"During anti-aircraft fire from [long-range] anti-aircraft guns in the fleet, restores the durability of all members of the vanguard fleet by 1.0% (5.0%) and deploys a special barrage Lv.1 (Lv.10)."

...Eh? Long-range AA guns?

[atomic abyss]

There is nothing to wait for