gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

well it depends on what you're trying to do

[wet prairie]

wtf is 406mk6 then

[warm flax]

How could I prevent desyncing later in the battle

[viscid swift]

by making the sync as tight as possible

[wet prairie]

Manual or sync better

[normal crane]

Is it worth it to buy second floor on dorm?

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

Yes
esp if you grind alot

[normal crane]

I'm asking because I accidentally bought it

[soft raft]

3 slots on each floor (2nd floor copies the first floor's # of slots for no extra charge) is enough to put your mob/farming fleet in

[elfin hollow]

Is this any good for Portland compared to its elite counterpart?

[viscid swift]

yes, it's one of the best none rainbow CA guns

[forest palm]

pretty sure the Mk6 was first used on North Carolina Class

[rapid grail]

This gun pretty alright, can mass manufacture this for almost every CA you use. Works fine in campaign

[gloomy mesa]

Are there still valid gift codes?

[soft raft]

gift codes do not exist for this game
Outside of limited skin codes from blu rays but those are extremely rare

[gloomy mesa]

Well that's kinda sad, but okay. Thanks for telling me

[half plover]

from what level on are ships good to level up in 9-1 if 12-4 needs 90-100+

[soft raft]

at mininum the same lvl as the enemies or 5 lvls above

[half plover]

ty

but that would mean level 88

or is it if I run a full fleet at lvl 88?

[viscid swift]

it depends on the ship, gear, and if you're running any carries

but matching the levels of the enemy is usually a safe bet

[half plover]

ah I see

[vale spindle]

max limit break helps a lot

[viscid swift]

experiment a bit and see what you can get away with

[half plover]

still pushing to chapter 12 bc I was lazy but hopefully I can figure it out soon

and it takes forever to go through chapter 11

[vale spindle]

11-1 is better than 9-1

[rapid grail]

should be fine with decent gears on ships and without a dedicated healer

[half plover]

yeah I was talking about minimum level. I can imagine it would be harder to throw in underleveled ships at 11-1 before leveling them at 9-1

[rapid grail]

just chuck them in at dorm to lvl 95-100
and use another fleet of ships to level at 11-1 or one of the flavors of w12 stages

[half plover]

yeah I think I will do it like that. currently I am still using unicorn and laffey even tho they are at 122, but once I settle in w12 I will probably swap them out first to run 2 full fleets with 2 ships to level and build up slowly

[worldly pewter]

i was leveling lvl 45 R ships fine in 12-1

[half plover]

how much harder is 12-4 compared to 12-1 for leveling

[viscid swift]

it's not that much more difficult

[worldly pewter]

the most important thing is getting them to safe the rest is just couple books

also crossfleet

[half plover]

what is crossfleet

[soft raft]

/crossfleet ships that have effects that proc in fights that they arent participating in

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[half plover]

aah

[dire epoch]

May someone link me to the chart showing how good meowfficer skills are? I remember looking at it at one point and have no clue where ti find it atm, thx.

[viscid swift]

#bot-spam /cats, riceist's guide at the bottom

[soft raft]

*/cats not /equip

[dire epoch]

There we go, thx! Wasn't the exact one I was thinking of (It was a tier list/table of all mewofficer skills), but looks helpful nonetheless.

[half plover]

btw when leveling ships do you use a fleet to level for mobs and have a full built boss fleet to finish the map?

[viscid swift]

usually yes

forcing the mob fleet to fight the boss without ammo is more hassle than it's worth

[cloud fractal]

Is Hermione any good? Just pulled her on my daily build mission.

[viscid swift]

nope

[cloud fractal]

🤣 of course not!

[half plover]

is saint louis a valid portland replacement for the mob tank position once she is dev30?

if not I will just use Deutschland until she is 120 as main tank lmaoo

I could use eugen but I have to mlb her

[rapid grail]

Yea

[half plover]

also since hood and nelson are almost 120 do I have two other ships that could take a flagship position? I would say bismarck for tech alone but I am not sure for the other one

[left nest]

Im struggling to clear 13-3, how should I improve my mob fleet? Just levels?

[soft raft]

Besides the levels, Yeeting Vestal for someone who can actually deal surface damage would be helpful

[left nest]

Independence?

[soft raft]

Yes

[left nest]

[tiny gulch]

https://i.imgur.com/GwbrYhs.jpeg

is there any strat to this or just throw ships at em

[steady beacon]

Latter; they're all trivially easy

[south sequoia]

Just throw ships at em

They didn't make the mistake of making it too hard like the senran collab

[tiny gulch]

how about EX for this event

[warm flax]

well it's not a collab I remember Gridman being hard too

[tiny gulch]

need a muse fleet or anything like that?

[warm flax]

throw rainbows and ur done

[tiny gulch]

dang i would've liked full muse gimmick

the tempesta gimmick was really funny

also, is there any way to skip the rhythm minigame?

[viscid swift]

Nope

You gotta get at least a B rank and stay until you see your score

[elfin hollow]

All shipgirls become idols

[sinful void]

Help what is wrong w my quick retire, I tried checking other boxes too

[viscid swift]

I don't follow, what exactly is wrong here

[sinful void]

I want to quickly retire all common ships, but when I press quick retire, it selects no ships.

[viscid swift]

You need to actually select Commons as one of the properties

[viscid swift]

As is you basically have it set so it won't select any ships

[sinful void]

This still doesn’t select any ships

[viscid swift]

Well you also have it set to keep copies to MLB ships if they aren't mlb

[sinful void]

Like this? Also doesn’t work

I feel slow 😭😭😭

[viscid swift]

No I mean the last row

[soft raft]

set the last row to "Dont keep"
Actually set both rows to that

[south sequoia]

Last row, the 4th option was fine

[sinful void]

Ok ty 🙏🙏

[elfin hollow]

Would it be wise to use my Universal T3 parts to complete this?

[sweet delta]

no, and your research focus is not set correctly

[undone plover]

read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_academy
put focus on 4

[icy mountain]

who should i equip this onto?

[undone plover]

your best BB

[half plover]

is this right? I didnt set it up too

[icy mountain]

but i alresdy have this one on hood

[elfin hollow]

Just anyone from 4?

[undone plover]

the other one is basically an upgrade of this one. u can also put it on unicorn

[undone plover]

Like this.
the top line is your focus.
the other stuff is catchup
for catchup i recommend u do anchorage/avp > FdG > Agir
and dont touch series 1-3 catchup for now

[half plover]

oh anchorage over fdg

[undone plover]

anchorage will probably be easier to get and dev to 30

[fluid brook]

PR4 got coining?

damn having lacking way too much

[elfin hollow]

PR4, right?

[fluid brook]

PR4 but not DR4 iirc

[elfin hollow]

Like this?

[fluid brook]

You can use coins instead of BPs for Ancho, AvP and Marco, Haku and Agir still need BPs to dev lvl

[elfin hollow]

I like Marco cause of backine.

[worldly pewter]

if u want to speedrun some protocore
u can do her catchup after coining her

[severe nebula]

Hey, I've been busy the past 4 weeks with moving to Japan so I've been out of the loop with AL. Is this still up to date as far as OpSci line up goes? And should Soyuz go somewhere

[undone plover]

yep it is good now but i would switch catchup from saint louis to anchorage. read this section later https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#optimizing_protocore

[half plover]

after coining means if she is dev30 already?

alr I will keep that in mind

[frank pulsar]

soyuz can replace musashi, you might want to slot in uvh over fdg for crossfleet, maybe use scylla or laffii over ham2 since kear already has ara

[severe nebula]

thanks. yea its basically fleet 1 mob, 3 other fleets bosses. I'll put in the changes

[elfin hollow]

I set catch up to Marco Polo, is that badv

[atomic abyss]

Marco is the lowest priority in the PR4 series

[novel condor]

You can still switch the priority tho

[elfin hollow]

But I’m lacking in backline ships..

[atomic abyss]

But do you even have the ships to even unlock her
Or grind experience with

[novel condor]

What backlines do you even have currently?

[atomic abyss]

I mean I guess there's penny, enty and independence
But then you drop a healer

[novel condor]

There's also Nelson retro

[elfin hollow]

I have a thread that showcases my current fleet! #1234702863104610378

[atomic abyss]

Nelson is brit

[atomic abyss]

And you've proven my point really

[novel condor]

Oh wait u meant for Marco oops

[atomic abyss]

You don't even have enough American backliners to grind Marco with

[novel condor]

My moment again

[elfin hollow]

I don’t know what to do.

[atomic abyss]

Usually this is the advice for research
Any 1 ship from PR1, likely Roon so you get the Ironblood tech for unlocking FdG and Agir, and to clear the PR1 missions
Then get ONLY FdG in PR2, to also clear the PR2 missions
Then skip to PR4 to get Anchorage at least

[undone plover]

hood and nelson is enough BB for early game. u dont need much else

[sand sedge]

Colorado is solid enough these days too

[elfin hollow]

Nelson..?

[undone plover]

nelson after retro is one of the best gold BB

[atomic abyss]

/wiki Nelson

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nelson
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nelson/Questline
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nelson/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nelson/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nelson's_Pennant_of_Victory

May 6, 2024, 1:39 AM

[atomic abyss]

2 issues
Not as easily obtainable, and DD secondaries

[viscid swift]

Colorado is in the Guild shop but WeeVee is the one with the retro

[elfin hollow]

I have these!

[atomic abyss]

Isn't Nelson from like the second tier of beginner missions too

Frankly with those stuff, I don't think you can even do much research period
Won't have the resources

[elfin hollow]

[atomic abyss]

You're just too early on

[golden granite]

are researches for DR ships rarer than the researches for pr ships?

[undone plover]

no but they usually give less prints

[silk sphinx]

You start doing pr grind past w9. Are you even there yet?

[elfin hollow]

I’m at.. 4.. or 5..

[silk sphinx]

Grinding with specific faction ships is kind of a bad idea for very early game

[viscid swift]

Forget about PR entirely then for now

[atomic abyss]

Yeah then you can safely ignore research entirely for the time being
And focus on building a proper fleet to begin with

[elfin hollow]

I’m trying ti get enough medals for Hood at the moment.

[silk sphinx]

Can’t be done purposefully

[sand sedge]

You should also try to MLB your penny

[silk sphinx]

Just climb normally you’ll get enough eventually

You’re rather early game, some things are higher in priority

[elfin hollow]

I don’t know, penny and her barrage is uhm.. eugh.. ah..

[atomic abyss]

It's already a lot better than most ships you can get at the time
Probably no skill levels too

[viscid swift]

Pennsylvania will be your best BB until you get Hood

And besides purple bullins aren't hard to come by

[fresh tangle]

Is prinz worth spending harmonious on?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[fiery pelican]

Which ships I should level up next?

[viscid swift]

Sirius

And Jeanne d'Arc

[fiery pelican]

I can MLB any ship btw

[viscid swift]

Doesn't really change anything, everyone else is by and Large tech except maybe Kawakaze

[frank kernel]

Maybe uh. Work on that level 65 Laffey2

[viscid swift]

That Laffey 2 is more than likely 0 LB

[fiery pelican]

I think I can get her to MLB

[viscid swift]

With the CN Anni in about 3 weeks save those bullins for now

[frank kernel]

Gotta level her up at some point and UR doesn't cap xp at lvl 70. So at least put her in the dorm 1st floor if you have room, but also she'll do fine in a farming fleet at any lb.

[viscid swift]

Yeah but why at all at this point

It could be a few months before she's ready and I'd rather work on tech than a ship that's just gonna collect dust

[frank kernel]

Laffey 2 also gives tech points at 120 (without requiring a simgle lb) so idk what your argument is, other than to have one.

[viscid swift]

Laffey 2 gives DD HP at 120 which as far as tech priorities go is low on the list.

Meanwhile you have plenty of FP tech there yet to be leveled.

[frank kernel]

Theres no fast track to 120 for anyone anyway so obv differing opinions! I respect yours.

[eager mulch]

rather level decent ship with good tech to 120 over useless brick with poor tech to 120

[wind hazel]

laffey2 is really good though...

[viscid swift]

Not a 0 LB laffey 2

[eager mulch]

mlb laffii good, lb0 laffii bad

[wind hazel]

granted that you have the resources to MLB her

[viscid swift]

Which is what the Laffey 2 in question will be for at least a month at this point

[crisp estuary]

[wind hazel]

did you even ask how many bulin he has in stock lol

maybe he has 100k specialized core

[viscid swift]

Trust me they don't

[eager mulch]

I trust you cheeky

[viscid swift]

I've seen their stock before

[wind hazel]

how many specialized core do you have?

[frank kernel]

Having an incredible tank/dps/asw combo available to get bulins slapped into her when world 13+ comes up, vs +1 fp to cruisers. Wish you guys would stop acting like there's only one right answer to stuff like this. :/

[viscid swift]

You act as if leveling a ship to 120 takes eons, it's not that quick but it's not that slow either.

And as I said with the shortages of UR Bullins newer players face these days ships can be sidelined for months waiting for bullins and we have the CN Anni in about 3 weeks with in all lieklihood a new gacha UR dropping then as well.

[frank kernel]

Right and the opportunity cost is 1 ship worth of tech pts in exchange for a ship ready to go when needed. And she is very very very good when and where she is needed.

[viscid swift]

which is only really W15

Laffey 2 is a strong ship but in W14 and below compared to her contemporaries she's not that big of an improvement to your fleet's ability to clear said content.

[wind hazel]

[frank kernel]

New players get a significant boost by having her earlier than w15 and don't need to struggle through 13 and 14 like we did when they were new.

[wind hazel]

@fiery pelican how many specialized core do you have?! grrrr

[viscid swift]

and you don't need Laffey 2 to not struggle in W14 and especially not W13

[frank kernel]

Again the opportunity cost for leveling a 0lb laffey is literally 1 ship worth of tech points, and having her ready asap is worth more than that. If you disagree then you disagree. But we're arguing over 1 ship worth of tech points being delayed by a week or two, and that is silly so I'm done.

[viscid swift]

I don't see any value in having Laffey 2 ready asap especially when the content she's most useful in is permanent content.

So the way I see it is the argument is some value vs nothing.

[frank kernel]

Yeah, I understand your argument and as I said I respect. Nothing more from me on the subject.

[hollow gust]

if you are low on UR bulins then just save for CN UR

[sweet delta]

what's the minigame score formula

[atomic abyss]

Tldr, combo is the most important thing

[frank kernel]

Does highest total combo do a multiplier on just end score? Or is it just a flat value

[willow crag]

do we have news of the usual May Ultra Rare yet?

[atomic abyss]

Until CN stream comes out nope

[viscid swift]

no

[frank kernel]

Oh btw are there details anywhere on the specific effects of those new auxes, the tablet and the USB stick? "Grants a strange power during combat" or w/e on the tool tip isn't particularly useful

[eager mulch]

Should be on the wiki

[icy mountain]

is it fine if i buy these things off the port resupply?

[eager mulch]

You should be buying them 100% of the time

[hollow gust]

u should buy basically everything in that shop

[icy mountain]

okay then

[frank kernel]

Oh hell yeah finally a use for Fleet Power. (Joking ofc)

[icy mountain]

btw, do secured zones still give good mats?

if i auto them?

[hollow gust]

only do that after everything is done

[eager mulch]

they’re the last thing you do for a reason

[frank kernel]

Before end of month, secured zone boxes are only rly useful for scooping up meta coords at the last second because you didn't do your opsi until 5 min before reset

[willow crag]

whos skill is this

[frank kernel]

It's from the tablet aux

[eager mulch]

RPG adventure aux

[frank kernel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/RPG_Adventure_Interface

[quartz wyvern]

Finally finished Plymouth. Is she going to be a gamechanger for my w15-3 fleets? If so, who should I swap?

The blank is Soyuz.

[neon finch]

can anyone explain the healing skill for brest?

[sweet delta]

She heals an ally after firing her main gun X times, and then she heals herself after X more times

[neon finch]

so still the mk8 main gun?

[forest palm]

the main gun depends on what you're fighting, she'll proc when she procs

[neon finch]

uhhh

only have 3 Cb guns

[forest palm]

and there's 3 armor types, the MK8 only covers 2 of those

[forest palm]

for one do not use Lance, always Great Sword, two that build works if you're looking to just level her

[neon finch]

alr thx

[viscid swift]

not gonna question how you don't have any agir guns...

[willow crag]

do we have a list of all released URs in the game? I need to keep track what i dont have

[viscid swift]

the wiki or archives and filter by UR in game

[willow crag]

aight, I only lack 5 ships, thanks

[quartz wyvern]

Anyone?

[viscid swift]

no she will not

[eager mulch]

Do CBs want lance or greatsword

[quartz wyvern]

Is Musashi THAT good?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the content

[eager mulch]

ofc

back to grinding shiratsuyu (wows)

[silver lintel]

Is this week a dead week?

Aka no event

[viscid swift]

most likely yes

[eager mulch]

most likely dead week > prelude > event

[sweet delta]

Music minigame scoring

• miss give 0, good give 300, perfect give 600.
• good and perfect increment the current combo streak (henceforth called "combo").
• long-press notes and both-sided notes give two separate instances of score and combo streak (or four for long-press both-sided notes)
• good and perfect get an added bonus score of N * 100, where N = 6 if combo > 100, 5 if combo > 80, 4 if combo > 60, 3 if combo > 40, 2 if combo > 20, 1 if combo > 10, or 0 if combo <= 10.
• at the end, if you had 0 miss and at least one good/perfect, then add a bonus score of 5000

[eager mulch]

you reacted to your own message

[sweet delta]

thanks

[torn raft]

why doesn't jda store more xp past lv 125?

[forest palm]

ships do though, where are you using her...

[torn raft]

i just did 1 battle and she do, i guess that exact 0 was me using xp packs

[forest palm]

well, yes XP packs cannot cause overflow, it will toss out the unnecessary xp, and only take the required amount

[stark quiver]

So 2 week hiatus until event?

[forest palm]

probably not, "nothing" for 2 weeks, but no real major content for the next 2 weeks

[stark quiver]

My English comprehension has finally given up on me

[jaunty vault]

going by past events, it should be in the prelude week but youre better off waiting for the announcements

do not helenayan me

[lament tree]

What is this for

[hushed dawn]

You can pick one of the listed ships there and gain additional blueprints for that ship through Research.

You have a limit of 300 blueprints though per PR season.

[jaunty vault]

once you choose a catchup, you cannot cancel it unless you choose another catchup or it ends
so choose wisely

catchup is also different from research focus

[neon finch]

is litterio a flagship or can be placed anywhere

[lament tree]

ok, what are blueprints

[neon finch]

its for developing pr ships (after u get the ship, u cant enhance it with other ships, but with blueprints)

[jaunty vault]

shes better when flag

get her augment if you plan to use her other than grinding levels

[sullen gale]

i keep playing the manjuu karaoke but the progress doesn't seem to move, what is going on?

[neon finch]

so is marco polo also flag?

[mint flint]

the progress is shown in the black dots turning white

[jaunty vault]

yes and MP is better than littorio and gets priority

[sullen gale]

so this mean im 2 more to get the thing?

[neon finch]

alr thx

[sleek flower]

5 more i think

[sullen gale]

okay then, so you read it from the right huh

[inland shoal]

No you're the one who read it from the right, it's read from left to right, 2/7 done

[left wasp]

Best way to farm PR/DR blueprints?
idk what else to do aside from research priority, waiting, and coin dumping (I like like 560k or something)

[jaunty vault]

thats it really

its a slow process

[left wasp]

So that's why people say its like 2 months

[jaunty vault]

[steady beacon]

If there exists a better way, nobody has ever found it
I suppose, apart from what you mentioned, of course always try and grab any extra (generic) blueprints that come from event shop or rewards

[left wasp]

So actually priority after getting the ship/gear from event shop is the blueprints?

[steady beacon]

I'd probably put cogs ahead, but
My goal is to always clear both in any event

Or, perhaps more correctly, all four: arrays, chips, DR prints, and PR prints

[left wasp]

I've honestly ignored those since honestly don't use chips/arrays as much as I feel I should
Kept forgetting level limit-breaking is a thing despite it being important
probably bcuz I just do dailies then dip and dunno what's the best ways for exp income aside from dorms and exp packs

[vale spindle]

Check the datamine in pins for event shop priority

[eternal moth]

CN anni should start in what, a week and a half?

[sinful elk]

Chat how do i get these other than daily raids

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource

[vale spindle]

Read the guide linked above this message

[sinful elk]

Why everything must include reading

[vale spindle]

don't worry it's not a text wall and it has table of contents

[sinful elk]

Ty its better than i thought

[vale spindle]

It is the guide i am most proud of after all

[vapid vector]

sam you’re a god

[fresh tangle]

Ok so I’m on on 4-2 should I be going back and focusing on hard mode mode for now?

[atomic abyss]

You can only do hard mode 3x a day
So you can't really "focus" on it

[fresh tangle]

Oh thought it was 3 of each stage 😂

I just did 1-1 three times because I forgot to turn off clearing mode to 3 star it

[untold pilot]

speculation of when PR5 fate simulation will happen? Trying to decide between finishing Brest of saving to FS Plymouth

[inner delta]

people say around CNY but who knows

just finish them all then save?

and go finish first then fate sim

[fresh tangle]

Haha just reset. Life’s good

[tribal coral]

How am I supposed to exit?

[inland shoal]

EXIT

(bottom right)

[tribal coral]

Doh.... Thanks!

[elfin hollow]

Just got this cutie!

[atomic abyss]

What in the fuck is going on on your screen

[novel condor]

Wtf is happening in that device

[elfin hollow]

Is she worth replacing over Lil Shinano? Should I use my 4 Golden Bulins on her??

[atomic abyss]

I'd say equal
But not worth the gold bulins

[fresh tangle]

Something happened to the upload idk. Here it is

Notification on shipyard but I cannot see anything to actually do

[serene moth]

Are the event amything good to pull for or should I save to anything upcoming?

[atomic abyss]

It's probably the notification for you to "coin" the PR blueprints

[weary scroll]

is enterprise worth getting from medal shop

[atomic abyss]

Save

[elfin hollow]

Should I retire her and get Hood then?

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely worth
Still one of the best ships in the game

[weary scroll]

nice

[atomic abyss]

No, you'll get medals other ways

[fresh tangle]

Not sure what that is

[atomic abyss]

Basically, for some ships, you can use coins to buy their blueprints

[weary scroll]

do i level her as much as i can then

[fresh tangle]

Ah ok so ignore it 😂 thought I was missing something important.

[atomic abyss]

You'll still want to keep a BB and Unicorn on the team
But yeah she can take up the last backline slot

[weary scroll]

ok

shes prob worth usin books on right

[atomic abyss]

Any ship you're using is worth the skill books

[fresh tangle]

Hood is so good and a clear upgrade to Penny who I loved anyway. Her one skill is awesome.

I want to replace Portland. Seeing blue is stressing me out but yes I know she’s good 😂

[weary scroll]

so should i use hood unicorn and enterprise?

[atomic abyss]

Yes, that would be ideal

[atomic abyss]

Once you retro her, she'll be purple uwu

[fresh tangle]

So I’ve got to retro Unicorn then Laffey then maybe Portland? 😂

[atomic abyss]

No, Portland should be first

Because Portland retrofit and Laffey retrofit are both part of the beginner missions

[pliant acorn]

Should i put all my UR gears in 1 fleet or spread them in different fleets?

[atomic abyss]

To be more precise, retrofitting Portland is on an earlier tier of the beginner missions rewards

And the later tier needs you to retrofit your starter

Unicorn can come last cos she's the most expensive

[tame jungle]

Portland is also an usable tank well into late game

[atomic abyss]

That just feels like you're not actually giving much consideration to what the gears actually do

Not all rainbow gear is optimal for all/most situations

For example, the twin 457 is a really good BB gun
The issue is, it's AP, so it does poorly against light armoured enemies which dominate mob content before W12/13 or against light armoured bosses

[elfin hollow]

So.. should I not invest her or not scrap her..? Uuu..

[atomic abyss]

Although yes, it is fair to say that your boss fleet usually wants the better gears

[atomic abyss]

Keep
You need ships to do commissions with after all

[steady beacon]

Also she's +2 AVI for whenever that becomes relevant 👀

[atomic abyss]

Are all the essexes like that?

[fiery pelican]

when cn anniv?

[atomic abyss]

3rd week of May

So week of like, 21st etc

[tame jungle]

Twin 457 is ok for mobs imo because it fires really fast which means lots of barrages and it’s funny to see medium armor enemies disappear from existence

[atomic abyss]

I mean, not all BBs have barrages after all
Some are timed barrages anyways
Or proximity ones

[tame jungle]

Not using barrage bb on mobs is kinda sus

Ok i sent my message too fast lol

My knowledge on this game is also somewhat outdated in terms of what some ships can do since i just came back after like 4 years

[fresh tangle]

I had three different people tell me unicorn is absolute priority for retrofit 😂

[atomic abyss]

I mean this is still generally true

Well FDG has proximity barrage but she isn't exactly a new ship

[tame jungle]

Unicorn R is very good, clears extremely fast

[jaunty vault]

whats this debate about

[atomic abyss]

Is uni kai priority > port/starter kai

[jaunty vault]

definitely lol

[atomic abyss]

My issue is simple

[sullen creek]

Uni kai heals main fleet

[jaunty vault]

im listening

[sullen creek]

[fresh tangle]

Gonna stick with spamming x-4 hard mode then for carriers for unicorn

[atomic abyss]

Will a new player even be able to get the resources to retrofit unicorn?

[elfin hollow]

Yes. (Lv.43 player here)

[tame jungle]

Over time? Yes

[atomic abyss]

Or rather, how quickly

Cos gold retro BPs are piss annoying to farm early on

[elfin hollow]

Well

[tame jungle]

11 golds

[sullen creek]

Your comparison was also a starter retrofit

[atomic abyss]

Yeah and I DEFINITELY think starter retro should be later

The argument was moreso Portkai

Because port kai is a remarkably cheap and low effort retro for the impact you get

[jaunty vault]

portlandR doesn't have nearly as much impact as uniR

[elfin hollow]

Sometimes you get lucky and you get golds from medal shop..

[sullen creek]

And is still less valuable than what uni kai offers

[elfin hollow]

Well not medal but like

[jaunty vault]

even for new player

[fresh tangle]

Not far so it’s ok 😂

[elfin hollow]

Guild player

[sullen creek]

Take your time she isn't going anywhere

[jaunty vault]

major part of the reason we recommend retrofit port is cause you need it for rookie missions

[fresh tangle]

I need to look at my pool of weapons and figure out what goes where. Doesn’t matter now as I’m fighting level 35ish stuff. I’ve been very much “that looks fine there for now” about if all

[steady beacon]

Yep, the Essexes all contribute +2 AVI
It's they, the cranes, Haku, and the two German carriers sans Zep

[elfin hollow]

I’d reccomend trying to get into a guild and getting as much coins so you can later on use them for any T3 you see in the shop later down the line! Don’t rush with it but it is worth the try, and even the new event is worth trying out since from my own experience, it is a random chance to give a T3 BP!

[fresh tangle]

Yeah need to find a guild. Found random ones but none accepted

Apparently all the best weapons are researched and that’s months down the line

[elfin hollow]

Try going for casuals, they’re very lenient with their acceptions!

[fresh tangle]

Yeah just applied for a random casual on in the list

[elfin hollow]

Yeah I feel you on that

It’s a headache to know that everything is “later down the line”.

If you really want to rush with her retrofit-try doing X-4 hard mode stages as soon as you clear a chapter!

Not only will there be a chance of getting a golden carrier drop, but the side missions always give out an extra 1-2 extra T3 drops depending on the stage you cleared (1 destroyer, 4 carieer and the in between.)

[fresh tangle]

Yeah my question is what should I use my 3 hard modes on a day

The highest x-4 I can do?

[atomic abyss]

Yeah

[steady beacon]

Highest world you can do
You choose the specific map by which retro print type you need/want
1: destroyer
2: cruiser
3: battleship
4: carrier

[elfin hollow]

Yeah! After chapter/world 3 is when the side missions start giving the gold ones upon completion!

You always get 2 per mission, and if you really wanna be smart about it and haven’t got that middle star, you can just leave and fight until you finish it!

[sinful elk]

uhmm is Helena currently worth retro rn

[inland shoal]

Nah Helena retro is rly low prio

[atomic abyss]

Helena is a RELATIVELY low prio retro

And definitely not for a new player to go and actively go out of their way for

[sinful elk]

then who i should looking for a retro

[steady beacon]

Definitely shuffle her off to later
Probably last in line assuming you're using some kind of standard starter fleet

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn, then Portland, then one of your starter

[sinful elk]

done though

except for nimi

[elfin hollow]

I was told Helena was to be done AFTER unicorn..?

[atomic abyss]

After that, I guess Saratoga?

[shrewd raven]

i have way too many purple bulins, any tips on using them?

[jaunty vault]

would be better if you just shoowed us what ships you have retrofitted

[atomic abyss]

Nah definitely not 💀
The thing is, as lovely as having her retro is, the jump for her is tiny in comparison

[jaunty vault]

use purple bulins to limit break elite or lower rarity ships

[atomic abyss]

Portland + Starter are part of the beginner missions
Which end in a free SR ship like Hood or Enty

[shrewd raven]

any ship?

[elfin hollow]

Any ship you USE

[jaunty vault]

i mean you do have an excess of them

[inland shoal]

I meant what I said
Ofc ships you don't use are lower prio, but I'd just say they are no priority at all
Basically the only thing you want from Helena retro is the different skill timer which is not useful until later

[shrewd raven]

but i mlb all the ones i use already

can i show some of my units here?

[elfin hollow]

Okay which one should be used for what

[shrewd raven]

dun know which ones are best to use them for

[elfin hollow]

I’m about to retire like 3 of these sunlight goobers.

[atomic abyss]

But why tho

[atomic abyss]

It's not like you have anything REALLY good to raise in that list
Besides Kaza ye

[inland shoal]

Just put them in your Kazagumo

[atomic abyss]

Oh god the Warkai hurts

[sinful elk]

waifu thingy so don't mind it

[elfin hollow]

I don’t really use Kaza, and I’m lacking in backline severely.

[jaunty vault]

get indep or sara next ig

[sinful elk]

alright

[atomic abyss]

Leaning more to Indep
Sara can live without hers for a while, esp with augment

[inland shoal]

Well you will use Kaza later and the only backline there is Intrepid

[shrewd raven]

also, which retrofit next?

[atomic abyss]

Independence for you as well, assuming uni is done

[sinful elk]

the farm for indep gonna be crazy

[atomic abyss]

It's just Uni kai part 2

[jaunty vault]

changchun, nelson, an shan, fu shun, lil nano if you want her, then whoever else you want to limit break

[elfin hollow]

Pardon?

[inland shoal]

Do you have Hood?

[shrewd raven]

yes

[inland shoal]

Ok then I'd go with Indep as next retro

[shrewd raven]

Oathed.

[sinful elk]

should i do sara retro while getting the cores for indep

[shrewd raven]

how much event currency would yall stop

[elfin hollow]

Okay. I got her gun. What now.

[inland shoal]

I usually do 50 or 60k

[elfin hollow]

Wait what now-

[inland shoal]

I wasn't talking to you about Hood
Though Hood is a really good mobber

[shrewd raven]

yes

good wife too

i got 2 eugen from gacha already, wont need to buy her again rite?

[inland shoal]

Event shop copy is always only if you haven't gotten during the event

[shrewd raven]

icic

[quick mason]

if lv up just do limited commission 🗿

3k exp 🗿

[inland shoal]

Wat

[atomic abyss]

What no

[quick mason]

what to do on my 25k oil 🗿

[atomic abyss]

Dorm food

[inland shoal]

Farm

[atomic abyss]

Dorm food and play the game more really

[serene moth]

you can also run full fleets for xp

[shrewd raven]

[quick mason]

:0

[inland shoal]

If you must, buy curry for dorm

[quick mason]

does food gives more exp to my wifus?

[inland shoal]

Yes the ones in dorm

[quick mason]

the more it's delicious?

[inland shoal]

Curry especially increases the exp gain

[shrewd raven]

food is fuel for your dorm, dorm gives wifus exp

[inland shoal]

You often don't run out of food anyway tho and exp gain from dorm is tiny compared to grinding

[quick mason]

Alrighty

[novel condor]

Food in dorms only give exp right? Even without them, they still give morale regen right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Actually they technically still gain exp without food
Just really really really really really slowly

[shrewd raven]

is it worth buying curry with oil then?

[quick mason]

im actually grinding my 4 wifus from sakura empire especially nagato

[atomic abyss]

Yes, it's very worth to buy curry with oil, especially if you have an excess

[quick mason]

how to gain more books?

[atomic abyss]

Skill books or the experience books

[shrewd raven]

how bout if none

[novel condor]

~~Send all the excess to me ty, no oil ~~

[atomic abyss]

If you have no oil for food then just sustain on whatever you have left

[atomic abyss]

Don't ask me, ask the guy who asked the question

[inland shoal]

It's only worth it if you can't get rid of the oil by grinding

[shrewd raven]

haiya, that 6th dorm slot is so tempting

[inland shoal]

Do you have 2nd floor?

[shrewd raven]

yes

[atomic abyss]

I mean, I can't even get rid of the oil I get from the weekly packs...

At least, when an event is on

[inland shoal]

Well then up to you, I got the 6th slot and tbh it's not rly paying off that much

[atomic abyss]

For me it is
Allows me to keep both fleets on full morale

[turbid dawn]

How long have you been able to refresh the guild shop with guild coins to get double the rewards from it?

[fresh tangle]

I’ve already got hood and suspect I’ll have medals for enty before anyway

So would just be a LB material down the line

Think I’m gonna use my hard mode allowance on x-4 and push unicorn as far as I can then maybe Portland or starter

[steady beacon]

... Uh... I can at least confirm since middle 2021-ish
(Possibly even since the start, but I can't personally confirm that...)

[turbid dawn]

Damn, I have like 20k coins, could've had so many more plates...

[molten plover]

Is it possible to farm oil somehow? I'm having an issue where I cannot amass oil

[atomic abyss]

Not "farm" per se
The only way is to use oil efficiently
Such as only farming stages with oil caps
Or switching to opsi when you run low on oil/morale

[molten plover]

Unfortunate

I've been struggling to get past 1k oil

[atomic abyss]

What have you been grinding that makes your oil run out that fast

[molten plover]

Not alot

My oil generation is just super slow

[atomic abyss]

You have been upgrading your merchant and all right...?

[steady beacon]

Also did you get the free pack after today's reset?

[molten plover]

Both are level 10 right now

And yes I got the free oil for the week

[steady beacon]

Damn, that is... a lot of oil burned fast...

[atomic abyss]

Then I don't think you should run out of oil unless you've been running non oil cap maps

[molten plover]

I've just kinda been auto farming the event for the orbs, but I can only do it every few hours because of the slow oil regen

[atomic abyss]

SP5 uses very little oil tho

I think you'd legit run out of morale before running out of oil lmao

[steady beacon]

... In Sp5???
How are you running out of oil SP5?

[molten plover]

I think it may be my fleet, it's using 50 oil a run

[atomic abyss]

Sp5 is like, total 70 oil for the WHOLE map with oil cap iirc?

[steady beacon]

So... you're not running an oilcapped stage?
SP5 is oilcapped at 20 oil per mob, 30 oil per boss

[rapid grail]

you use 160 oil per run of SP3 because of oilcap feature

[molten plover]

What is oil cap?

[rapid grail]

/oilcap

[atomic abyss]

Oh

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[steady beacon]

Yep, 160
20x6+30+obligatory 10 for entrance

[atomic abyss]

Oh geezus

[steady beacon]

[shrewd raven]

[steady beacon]

Your prayers may now be answered

[molten plover]

I apologize, I've played this game off and on since like 2017 but never got super in depth on mechanics 😞

[atomic abyss]

This one is a mechanic that turns on automatically on the maps it's available on though...

[sharp socket]

is le temarireaureru u good

[shrewd raven]

its literally just a feature on certain stages that will cut the oil cost

[rapid grail]

both versions; collection ship

[atomic abyss]

So W9, the hard mode maps on any event, for this event SP5

[sharp socket]

to the retirenent home they go

[rapid grail]

[atomic abyss]

Le Temmie is Le Memey yes
At least the other Frenchies have retrofits or something

[shrewd raven]

big boobed blondie=seggs

[molten plover]

Thank you all for your help, I shall look into this 😌

I apologize for coming back so soon but someone said there was a oil cap on the event missions?

[normal crane]

What does 1:1 fleet means

[steady beacon]

Fleet with 1 vanguard, 1 main

[calm summit]

Hello guys, any help on totally-no-brain full-clear-auto team comp for chapter 15? I pretty much have every ships and gears but sadly I got no brain

[normal crane]

How does that work for farming?

[atomic abyss]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

15-4 collection
0. http://renhex.github.io/alft/81 standard fleets. First fleet could do boss 1 and 3, or give it to the second fleet.

1. http://renhex.github.io/alft/59 if you're tired of seeing Musashi Guam laffii fleets...this wins with half tech/cats. Chapter 15 isn't that hard, have correct gear and ship roles covered. Second fleet needs to do boss 1 and 3.
2. https://renhex.github.io/alft/98 3 starring fleets that may or may not work on lethal depending on whether your account is actually good. Musashi fleet does all mobs and boss 1+3, and the crossfleet fleet does boss 2 only. Prioritize 2 support Large Air Formations > Boss 1 > Large Main Fleets when having ammo. Save your full ammo node to use on two Reconnaissance Fleets and Boss 3 for last.
3. Shimanto > Ply, Yorkii > Enterprise, bb aux guns can both be 155.
4. Full flapjack on support carriers is best, but skyrocket and fw190a5 are cheaper and also good. For surface fleets, flapjacks are best, followed by tigercat/pirateCorsair/seahornet. Prioritize flapjacks for surface fleets.
5. #gameplay-help message read this. These fleets should have 99%+ win rate with medium-high cats and tech. Expect your win rate to be slightly lower. If you don't have Guam/laffii, much lower.
6. #gameplay-help message on submarine timing. Early subs = dead subs
7. #gameplay-help message choose support carriers with good fighters
8. Avoid Large/Medium Main Fleets. If you're 3 starring, use Shimanto and never fight them out of ammo.

By suchiguma

[atomic abyss]

@calm summit ^

[calm summit]

Thanks!

[steady beacon]

It's more of an old school thing to do, before oil caps came about tbh
But you can still use it for unusually intensive farms

[atomic abyss]

On the map SP5, there is an oil cap yes

[normal crane]

Ahh so to reduce oil consumption

[steady beacon]

Basic idea is you use something like a high-level Unicorn + DDG or something and power through with sheer level advantage despite the numerical disadvantage
Using only two ships keeps your oil cost lower, if there is no oil cap to abuse
Or if even oil cap is too expensive for some stupid farms
Only relevant one in recent memory was the HVARcat nightmare, but that even had increased drop rate, so...

[molten plover]

Do you happen to know the total cap? It made me spend 1k for 3 auto farms so I'm not sure if that's accurate

[atomic abyss]

20 for mob, 30 for boss, 10 for entry
So 160 per run

[steady beacon]

Three runs of oilcapped SP5 with no submarines should cost 160x3=480 oil

[atomic abyss]

So either you accidentally turned the oil cap off or you're farming the wrong stage

[molten plover]

Ahhhh, I think that might be the issue. I believe there are subs in my fleet

[atomic abyss]

[fiery pelican]

how good is noshiro and prinz eugen muse?

[atomic abyss]

Alright but niche and not useful

[fiery pelican]

oof.. i really want to use noshiro

[atomic abyss]

If you're looking to save cubes, now is the time

[fiery pelican]

i already got everyone within 20 pulls

[atomic abyss]

Nosh muse is basically torp memes
Which are mostly dead in the current game state

[fiery pelican]

it's really hard to get cog awk+? i'm running out of em

[steady beacon]

You can, to be clear... just note that the cost for LB'ing and getting her to 120/25 may not justify her... relatively limited use case
Unless you're someone like me who unironically still uses torp memes (but even that, this is solely for RodM right now...)

Especially since she contributes no tech, so training her is pretty much only with intent for use, at least from a pure gameplay perspective

[fiery pelican]

someone said to lvl up sirius, is she that good?

[steady beacon]

She is, in the key contexts one would use her (boss fights using CVs against DD/CL/CA bosses)
Evasion rate debuff is a massively powerful thing

[atomic abyss]

Sirius is the only notable carrier support to stack with the best carrier buffer in the game, kazagumo, basically

[fiery pelican]

Okay

[atomic abyss]

So at the very least, a long term project

[fiery pelican]

I'll switch to this then

[atomic abyss]

She's... Not going to be particularly useful in that comp at least

[fiery pelican]

I'm doing it because I need exp for japanese dr

[atomic abyss]

I mean opsi isn't exactly the best place to grind exp anyways so

[fiery pelican]

and frontline ships are random

[atomic abyss]

I guess it works for event SP5

[umbral briar]

sorry, I want to ask, how can I find out what type of armor the enemy is?

[novel condor]

Usually can check the wiki

[atomic abyss]

Well...you check what hull class they are based on the icon shown in battle and then cross check that with the wiki...

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhh
You memorise them
In OpSi at least the preparation screen will tell you
In other cases, you probably have to look it up on the wiki

[fiery pelican]

you spend no oils, it's not the best but freebies...

[atomic abyss]

BBs are heavy, CVs are usually medium, BCs are medium, CAs are medium, CLs and DDs are mostly light

[cloud fractal]

Ay yo Hermione yesterday for the daily pull, freaking San Diego today. San Diego worth leveling?

[fiery pelican]

i've been doing my pr and dr ships exp from OpSi and 13-4 too xD

[atomic abyss]

Hermione is utter trash
San Diego is worth investing in eventually

[south sequoia]

San diego is too expensive for an early game player

[vernal osprey]

How much blueprints does each tier of Research project gives?
Blue, Purple, Gold, and Rainbow?

[cloud fractal]

Yeah, I heard about Hermione yesterday. Was surprised to pull another SSR on 1 pull.

[atomic abyss]

Random really...
Ironically the blue ones are usually the best outside the super rare soul forming ones...

[steady beacon]

If you mean face research/cognition/D-type
Blue guarantees 1, purple 2, gold 3
But you can roll more at random
... I must admit Idk what's the minimum possible for the 30 min face researches but generally you get a lot

[vernal osprey]

Really? There isn't a set amount?

[atomic abyss]

The tier isn't the issue, it's the TYPE that's the key

Different researches have different names

[vernal osprey]

Yeah, the rainbow one that costs WCs right?

[atomic abyss]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[atomic abyss]

So you should choose your researches based on the type of research, not the rarity

[south sequoia]

SSRs aren't exactly that hard to come by, but not all of them will be worth or great

[steady beacon]

Yep, those are only for the DR ships
Generally always take those if you get them and can afford because
(1) They are extremely rare (I've gotten half my DRs to max without ever seeing a single rainbow for them)
(2) Their rate of return is extremely good

[fiery pelican]

so sirius is used on planes fleet?

[vernal osprey]

Yeah, I usually immediately take them

I just wanted to know the set amount of Blueprints it gives

[cloud fractal]

So I’m discovering. I’m assuming SD is too expensive for a new player due to needing to be Retro’d? This is the first SSR I’m seeing with Retro.

Replied wrong person

[steady beacon]

Yep, she has a reciprocal relationship with CVs so you generally want to use her with at least two CVs in the aforementioned serious situations where you want her buffs

[umbral briar]

i see now , the armor is light and now if i using CV , among the torpedoe plane, fighterplane and dive boomber plane, which one is more efficient at defeating it?

[atomic abyss]

The answer is.... None really

Unless you have the HVARcats from a previous event or the German rocket planes from PR4
(All fighters)

[steady beacon]

If this is a boss in OpSi or something, you will usually want rocket fighters due to their better modifiers against light and medium armoured enemies
Although if this is campaign or an event stage, there isn't any particular need to gear your CVs just for them, bring a standard campaign setup (interceptor/dive bomber/parallel TB) and it's generally fine

[atomic abyss]

CVs don't do well against light armour

[novel condor]

@umbral briar this tbh

[steady beacon]

York II begs to differ
Granted, she is a pretty freaky exception lol

[novel condor]

Either u just use normal CV load outs or use BBs with HE guns

[atomic abyss]

If you don't want to think too much, and have not gotten deep into gearing, this is the GENERALISED logic

Light armour - BBs with HE guns
Heavy armour - CVs in general deal more to armoured stuff
Medium armour - Both really

[frank pulsar]

yes, ssr retrofit to ur is very expensive and new players should not invest in it
costs a lot of gold cruiser prints and like 7 gold bulin total including limit breaks

[south sequoia]

You also have to sacrifice 2000 spec cores just to buy her item

[rapid grail]

lil versions of ships don't do much to stats and stuff, right>

[atomic abyss]

They're usually lower rarity, so they're generally worse in terms of efficiencies and stats

And skills too

[rapid grail]

i'm near to another dock space issue... is it safe to retire them

[atomic abyss]

I mean, sure I guess
Might be necessary eventually

[tropic tusk]

how come a team like this in w12 -4 dies

[wind hazel]

crap gear, crap vanguard, maybe 0lb NJ, could be a lot of things

[atomic abyss]

As said by Mori above^

Insufficient AA really

And that frontline isn't exactly the most consistent dps

[wind hazel]

probably can do 12-1 tho

[tropic tusk]

wt if i switch nj for voh

[steady beacon]

You get two rounds of torps every 20s and they go silent for the rest of it

[tropic tusk]

nj is max lb

[wind hazel]

is it dying to boss? are you one fleeting?

[tropic tusk]

my frount is dieing

[wind hazel]

to boss?

[tropic tusk]

ya

[wind hazel]

just do mob, use 2nd fleet for boss

[tropic tusk]

normally all i need is 1 team

[atomic abyss]

Welcome to the point of the game where you can't 1 fleet with shitty team comps

[wind hazel]

if you wanna one fleet you can try 12-1, bar is lower there

[steady beacon]

Ye but that vanguard is super fragile
And Uni and JdA can only compensate so much
If some big attack (esp if it burns) in the downtime interval, those two DDs collapse very quickly

[tropic tusk]

no normally 12-4 i can 1 team but i just swap almost everything i had

[atomic abyss]

Hence the adjective choice

[tropic tusk]

ok looks like i have a 20% chance of dieing

[wind hazel]

you can try awaken them past lv100 for more tankiness lol

[atomic abyss]

Unironically, maybe swapping Uni for Volga or Aquila might help lmao
Since they're DDs

[wind hazel]

but idk why you wanna lock yourself to 1 fleet when 2 fleet is more efficient

[steady beacon]

I mean, swap Sara, both are doing CV-level damage after all

[atomic abyss]

Fair

[tropic tusk]

i tried swap sara with volga

[half plover]

what would you guys say is the first thing to buy with protocore? since there are multiple in the guide

[tropic tusk]

dies even more

[wind hazel]

[atomic abyss]

Yeah maybe don't use DDs...

[warm flax]

I would buy champy gun

[atomic abyss]

The fact is that DDs are barely used in end game content anyways

[steady beacon]

How long is the fight lasting...
If that's MLB NJ, it's honestly surprising to me, even at Level 100, that she isn't murdering the boss before the DDs get too damaged, especially if she's being backed up with two other backliners...

[atomic abyss]

Choukai and Maya spam torps and barrage shells

[wind hazel]

out of ammo+level disadvantage NJ

[atomic abyss]

Those have the capability of 3hko-ing a DD

[half plover]

idk who wants the 406mm gun and for which content so I might go for the plane

[steady beacon]

Ohhhh right... I forgot OoA, my bad...

He's one-fleeting, that is part of the issue...

[warm flax]

@half plover you would like to go for 3x pr3 Bb gun then tenrai

[steady beacon]

Champagne gun is just triple barrel anti-medium/heavy boss BB gun

Almost every BB wants it in that context

[warm flax]

Though idk if you still wanna get three with Soyuz gun on depot

[tropic tusk]

could i use akashi for 12-4?

[void turret]

is it worth keeping the event ship dupes? I have Eugen and Noshiro from random pulls

[tropic tusk]

or even ryuuhou?

[warm flax]

ryuuhou is fine

[worn dragon]

How do I unlock Priority ships again ?

[steady beacon]

If you have already MLB'd them, then there is no especial reason to keep any further dupes, no

[void turret]

not LB'd at all

[worn dragon]

Like unlocking the actual task to start building

[tropic tusk]

how about shouhou?

[half plover]

ooh ok

[steady beacon]

OK then, use the dupes for their LB

[sullen creek]

Get enough tech points for their respective factions

[void turret]

but it seems they might not be particularly good

[sullen creek]

Some of them are top tier

[warm flax]

top tier?

[steady beacon]

Ehhh... depends on your standard for "good"...
Since you're not spending gold bulins, I don't see any harm in doing their LBs...
They are perfectly usable

[sullen creek]

I was talking about PRs

[void turret]

ok

unfortunately I'm broke in terms of coins rn

[steady beacon]

Well, I would argue that Noshi, at least, can claim the title of top tier in her role...

[warm flax]

Not the channel for that

[steady beacon]

... Pardon me...?

[sweet merlin]

i deleted my text

[steady beacon]

Oh

God, I was wondering to myself how on earth that might have been taken in the wrong way lool

[sullen creek]

Well yeah all the 3 gold muse ships can be considered good but if your standards are just "UR tier" then I'm afraid not even something like a DDG can impress you

[void turret]

how does one grind coins efficiently before W-7

[sweet merlin]

sp5 /d4

[elfin hollow]

Go to w9 asap.

[void turret]

i can't beat SP5

[warm flax]

DDG good

[void turret]

what's d4

[sweet merlin]

sory i ment d3

[steady beacon]

Probably referring to the last map of Divergent Chessboard, I'm guessing
But if you can't clear SP5, that has slightly higher level enemies if I remember correctly
And for other events, they are even higher level still

[void turret]

ill try

[steady beacon]

Ye, for now, I would recommend trying to clear SP5
Good oil capped map you can use to grind some levels for cheap

[warm flax]

Hindy good with no tech?

[sleek spade]

Hey yall how often do they update gearlab to give new stuffs

[elfin hollow]

Once in a while.

[sleek spade]

That’s exceptionally vague!

[opal stream]

6 months

[sleek spade]

Ah I see. Nice!

[steady beacon]

Eh, sure... except in special cases, you don't really need tech for vanguard ships...
It's not like for backlines where you sometimes literally need it to make certain things happen

[sleek spade]

What about old rainbow gear like NJ’s gun? When will those show up?

[steady beacon]

We unfortunately have no idea

[south sequoia]

We don't know

[sleek spade]

Die inside

I missed both reruns

[steady beacon]

Uhhh... Spearfish update was January I want to say...

[sleek spade]

It was December I think

Are those even useful or are those memes

[warm flax]

Spearfish good but expensive

[elfin hollow]

NJ gun is most likely to be added into core shop, like other event gears.

[sleek spade]

But the only ur event gear we have in there since forever is the rainbow dildo

But yea I can see that being the case

[elfin hollow]

Do we have any ur event gear in the gear lab?

[opal stream]

dildo was laways core

[warm flax]

Is there a list for pr season release dates

[elfin hollow]

In wiki maybe?

[sleek spade]

Dont think so

[steady beacon]

Uh you can backread the patch notes in the wiki for them, ye...

Just check starting from 2019 I think and ctrl-f for "Research"

[elfin hollow]

I got the date, but they are in moonrunes.

https://azurlane.wikiru.jp/index.php?開発ドック

[steady beacon]

Well, I went and did it...
PR1 (in EN, at least): May 5th 2019
PR2: December 19th, 2019
PR3: July 9th, 2020
PR4: July 8th 2021
PR5: July 14th 2022
PR6: July 13th 2023

[warm flax]

Thanks Japanese guy

[sweet merlin]

so pr7 this year?

[whole crypt]

likely

[sweet merlin]

tbh all odd prs are bad

[steady beacon]

It's on the EN wiki too 👀
That's where I looked
And yes, at least in theory, we should get PR7 this year

[whole crypt]

it's never a straight yes until announced

[sweet merlin]

syper yamato...

[elfin hollow]

As long as WoWS still has ships.

[sweet merlin]

i dont theny anybody devs pr 3 & 5

[steady beacon]

[sweet merlin]

at least for meta

[wind hazel]

wat

[whole crypt]

Harbin and Plymouth are top class, how is PR5 a bad series

[opal stream]

ply found dead in a aditch

[warm flax]

Don't disrespect my Cheshire (she eh)

[whole crypt]

Cheshre was great while it lasted

[sullen creek]

She just got Guam'd

[elfin hollow]

Guam is not permanent yet.

[whole crypt]

even before guam her duability didn't hold up too well and her pewpew was weak for 15

[wind hazel]

i used her for w15, she was fine

survived better than shitty sandy

[silver lintel]

Why ya all ditch brest

[opal stream]

who

[whole crypt]

she'll work, but you can't count on her carrying like she did 13
I used San Diego fine for 15 no idea what your problem was with her

[elfin hollow]

~~ why not ? ~~

[sullen creek]

Never tried her in 15, she worked fine in my 13hm clears tho

[wind hazel]

our experience differ, let's leave it at that

doesn't mean a permanent PR ship is a past tense

[sleek spade]

Brest with nice brests

[whole crypt]

well a fleet is 6 ships, it could be a difference in the rest of the comp, I'm not saying you're wrong

[half plover]

can anyone tell me how I actually buy the 406mm tripple out of the proto shop

is it the prototype pr3 weapon blueprint?

[steady beacon]

That'd be the one
Buy it and then access it in your depot to select the Champagne gun prints

[half plover]

ty

[steady beacon]

Just don't misclick like I did that one time

[half plover]

is the gun called champagne?

[wind hazel]

it's called this

[half plover]

it takes 25 blueprints for one gear 😭

[sullen creek]

Champagne is just the ship the gun was released with

[steady beacon]

One day we will standardise the nomenclature but there will be five competing standards

[whole crypt]

almost all research gear is 25 prints, you'll need prints from more than 1 month from proto shop

[half plover]

or just get lucky from research blueprints ig

[whole crypt]

there's very little ambiguity which gun champagne gun is, it's just when you get acquainted with it

[half plover]

I somehow already had 3 blueprint copies of it

[worldly pewter]

why u guys went against the one who said that odd pr series are cope ? like exept ply what else is used ?

[whole crypt]

we don't really recommend doing PR3 nowadays, so there's that

Harbin is good, so is Brest

[half plover]

ah yeah. it was probably because I didnt set a focus and just did some random lab researchs from time to time

[whole crypt]

set focus 4, don't pick series at random

[half plover]

yeah I read the guide and set it up

I will try to constantly let it research from now on since I have access to good gold maps finally

[whole crypt]

I mean it's not like PR1 and 2 doesn't have good ships either, it's just that they're so long ago the ships are powercrept

[half plover]

saint will finish anyway no matter what - if dev30 is max

[wind hazel]

you can even say there's no bad PR ships. only there are exceptional ones that are really great out of it

[whole crypt]

it goes past 30, but you don't need to do that part of research if you don't want to

[half plover]

so dev30 for the tech points and then continue to the next coin up ship

100% collection soon

lmaooo, I didnt even manage to get noshiro muse this event

[whole crypt]

unless you actually want to use Saint Louis, her fate sim does add quite a bit

her fate sim? no

[half plover]

what do you mean by unless I want to use her

[whole crypt]

Fate simulation buffs one of the PR ship's skills, for some ships it's less substantial, but for Saint Louis her blue skill improvement is quite a bit

[half plover]

oh I see

[whole crypt]

40s is that awkward line where some fights don't end, so having 10 more seconds of +35% EVA does make a difference for her

[half plover]

I think I just leveled saints red skill bc I planned on using her temporarly at least until I got better ships

[whole crypt]

besides just leveling the skills up fate sim buffs one of the skills further, 2 skills if it's a DR

[half plover]

ooh I see, so it is like special skills

[whole crypt]

well for Saint Louis's case for example, her base blue skill is 15% EVA for 40s, if you level her skill up it goes up to 35%, but fate sim extends the time by 10s without affecting how much EVA it gives

different ships have their skills buffed differently

[mental marlin]

does anyone know if i can play azur lane on bluestacks with an apple id azur lane account?

[half plover]

that sounds really good

[half plover]

you literally asking "how can I play with apple ID on android"

[south sequoia]

Get a yostar/different bind for your AL account

[whole crypt]

bind that account with yostar as well, then you can recall that account on bs

[mental marlin]

ok thanks

[half plover]

I wonder if there are any emulators that work for ios

[untold trout]

Other than monarch, who else is worth working on?

[crimson glacier]

monarch isnt worth

[untold trout]

Oh

[crimson glacier]

all of them are pretty meh but roon gives kms tech points

[whole crypt]

she's okay to work on if you can't unlock any others but Roon's tech points more useful, and maybe Saint Louis

[untold trout]

Good thing she was the first one I went for, I needed my yangire

[crimson glacier]

roon is pretty meh ship, its only the tech points

[untold trout]

I get tech points from building ships for the first time yeah?

[sullen creek]

Monarch is fine

[crimson glacier]

thankfully we dont need to settle for just fine

[untold trout]

Well, I don't exactly have access to the other pr ships, atm

[sullen creek]

[whole crypt]

she's fine to build just to not idle research if you can't do any other ship

[crimson glacier]

yeah but you dont need other PR ships to beat her

i dont think it really matters what you do on pr1, none of the ships are really worth using

[sullen creek]

That's crazy not like they're super old or anything

[untold trout]

I see, was seeing if shed be alright to replace Bismarck with, I'm using her in my mob fleet till I max her affinity

[crimson glacier]

she is much better than bismarck, but something like hood is even better than monarch if you have her

[untold trout]

I do have hood, I'll swap her in when I max Bismarck

[crimson glacier]

hood just wants her augment to shine

[tropic tusk]

i have slove my problem this team now works

for 12-4

[crisp wadi]

get a tank vanguard

[tropic tusk]

its only 12-4 its fine im trying to level them up also

[late flame]

throw a few books on jeanne and make her tank lol

[jaunty vault]

poi should be tankier

[crisp wadi]

I think they just wanna say that that fleet is working rn

[normal crane]

Is developing Anchorage worth it as the first pr ship?

[runic bolt]

which one is better to use againts rodney, agir or krons?

[jaunty vault]

dont think it really matters either way

[jaunty vault]

if you can, sure

[steady beacon]

Ideally, neither... but if you are starved for options, Agir at least is probably more useful, provided you are not in a situation where her torpedoes conflict with a close desync...

[normal crane]

I only need 50 tech points rn, also do I really need to dev30 her to be able to use her? My current CA is Portland

[jaunty vault]

dev25 should be fine to replace portland

not too sure about below that

[runic bolt]

geez lot to desync, is there a website to calculate timing?

[steady beacon]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/ - airstrike calculator
https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/battleship/ - battleship calculator
May your sanity hold up

[runic bolt]

thank you so much

[mental marlin]

does anyone know how i can bind my apple id acc with a yostar acc?

nvm got it 🙂

[coral oyster]

Any team advice to beat 9-4? I'm stuck

[novel solstice]

Level up your ships a bit. Level advantage is hella powerful, literally any six randos will be able to beat 9-4 if they're enough levels above it.

[south sequoia]

Well what does your team look like

[coral oyster]

This is my team rn, my highest lvls atm

I also have perseus if she's needed

[coral oyster]

Note I'm grinding iron blood so that's why only iron blood vanguard

[south sequoia]

Don't grind for pr while clearing your levels

[coral oyster]

Ah okay

[south sequoia]

Also... why are you using langley

[coral oyster]

Pr grind

[ocean pilot]

Lv 57, green hair
U said pr grind on iron blood vanguard

[coral oyster]

It's her skill that I have her there

[late flame]

facepalm.jpg

[uncut oar]

Have... Have you read the tooltip? Do you think your IB ships qualify as CVs and CVLs?

[ocean pilot]

I dont get it. I think u can swap her to better ship or airplane imo

[coral oyster]

I swapped for shinano since I have her

[ocean pilot]

Makes sense

[uncut oar]

specifically, Langley's skill buff only applies to carriers.

[coral oyster]

Understood

[coral oyster]

These are my vanguard super rares if this helps to figure it out

[uncut oar]

I'm sorry, do you have 2 copies of Prinz Eugen levelled

[uneven cave]

[uncut oar]

I completely forgot about muse coming out.

[late flame]

this isnt #al-general

[muted acorn]

Lol I know

[uncut oar]

Memes are not allowed here

[muted acorn]

Welp that's sad

[uncut oar]

This is a direct rule 3 infraction

[mental marlin]

does anyone know how to improve the fps when i play on blue stacks? azur lane only runs at 30fps

[inland shoal]

Same as non relevant gifs

[muted acorn]

My bad

[inland shoal]

Looking at cyan_cinna

[uneven cave]

Consider raising some elites, a lot of super rares are mid or worse while costing precious bulins

[inland shoal]

Did you set it to run at 60fps in the azur lane settings?

[mental marlin]

oh wow thorin, you are right... i forgot to change the fps in the settings lul

[south sequoia]

@undone dagger @weak canopy scam bot

[undone dagger]

/ban 1142505619346174132

[odd root]

tydabangar_79379#0 got banned.

[plain saffron]

but you're a mod

[south sequoia]

mods cant ban

[plain saffron]

smh my head

[worldly pewter]

getting stuck means usually trying ur best and not memeing

boys if they release pr7 this july does it mean that the pr4 will become coinable ?

[eternal basalt]

No

[worldly pewter]

how does it work then usually ?

[eternal basalt]

They usually do that stuff in january

[worldly pewter]

oh i see

[undone plover]

But pr4 is already coinable
If u mean dr4 then should come with pr5 next jan yes

[silk sphinx]

New pr series is sometime in summer

I think July

[forest palm]

it's hard to make a "consistent" pattern of when they make a DR coinable, the only best guess we have is when said DR has had their Fate Sim, and that in itself is dubious

[undone plover]

when did FdG and azuma get coining?

this is from Jan-23 patch notes. U are probably right in that it is not guarenteed but there is precedent for 2 years now. if 2 can be counted as a pattern

[plain saffron]

latest are new season july, new season -1 fs on EN anni, new season -2 PR coining and new season - 3 DR on CNY,

[inland shoal]

When is en anni again?

[plain saffron]

16 august

[icy steppe]

Would this pass for w13?, they don’t have gear on yet so yeah.
NJ is mob fleet and Bismarck 2 is boss

[eager mulch]

No

non dev 30 Hindenburg, non mlb laffii, non dev 30 agir, non mlb guam, non mlb nano

[opal stream]

where are the stars

[eager mulch]

Essex doesn’t even look mlb

[icy steppe]

It’s just a draft, I am asking so I don’t invest into crappy ships

[jaunty vault]

NJ, helena and enty are not the best mobbers

[eager mulch]

Hindenburg isn’t much of a late game tank

[icy steppe]

Let me just show what ships I have and yall say what to put

[eager mulch]

those fleets are just rainbo spam so it’ll work but barely any of your rainbows are good, that fleet will take a few months at least to make good

[opal stream]

nah he spamming ur in w13
unless absolutely no gear it gonna clear nayway

[eager mulch]

I dunno man, AA gun Hindenburg is just denying her whole purpose

[icy steppe]

What I have mostly

[opal stream]

if you kill fast enough you dont need aa

map planes are actually not big of an issue but rather the planes that the elite and command ship throw at you if you let them live for a while

[icy steppe]

So what’s a good mob and boss fleet then?, cause I have just been brute forcing since day 1

[sinful elk]

Chat how can i counter 9-4 boss torp dmg, even though my fleet didn't die any but they were all on life support

[icy mountain]

probably uni and overlevels

[jaunty vault]

are you using torp bulge

[sinful elk]

For portland only

[plain saffron]

if they didn't die then just let it be tbh

[sinful elk]

Kron got down around 30% hp is what terrify me

Manual control btw

[plain saffron]

they have 100% HP let them use 100% of it

[jaunty vault]

use torp bulge on everyone you can ig

[plain saffron]

does torp bulge better than 500HP for DD

[jaunty vault]

DDs cannot torp bulge

[plain saffron]

ouh fuck

[jaunty vault]

and the usual limit breaks/retrofits/max lb

[sinful elk]

Except for kron and nj my boss fleet are full of mlb

[eager mulch]

there’s your problem

[icy steppe]

Well I don’t know if my fleet will work but fuck it we ball

[eager mulch]

Kron and NJ aren’t mlb, they have less damage and bulk

[jaunty vault]

it won't
if you're on lethal
probably

you dont have much limit breaks

and quite a few underlevelled

[eager mulch]

Does Sam have anything on any of his guides about how non mlb ships are shit?

[whole crypt]

rice's

[eager mulch]

bless riceist

[late flame]

b-but reading

[icy steppe]

I switched it back to KMS fleet but just included unicorn, so far it’s been so much easier with her here

[eager mulch]

idk what’s worse, faction fleeting or rainbow brainrot

[plain saffron]

at least rainbow brainrot kill enemy

[eager mulch]

and the brain

[plain saffron]

2 in 1

[eager mulch]

truly a good deal

[whole crypt]

just wait until we have faction rainbow brainrot

[inner delta]

[plain saffron]

wdym we already have 1, at least for me

[hushed dawn]

Isn't that already possible?

[whole crypt]

only for IJN

[hushed dawn]

USS too.

Kear, NJ, YKII, Guam, Sandy Kai, LaffII.

[whole crypt]

I guess if you count retrofits

[hushed dawn]

Royal Navy and Iron Blood needs 1 more vanguard to complete the set... I think.

[plain saffron]

but my KMS

[blissful hamlet]

just use emden

[stark quiver]

after I mlb shinano, should i start working on uvh or wait for the "possible" cn anni UR

[frank pulsar]

uvh pretty niche nowadays, i would wait imho

[cloud fractal]

Roon is a good tank for a new player though, right? Someone with limited options?

I was just reading some other messages, sorry if this is a return to an older conversation