gameplay-help

[rain vine]

dock and dorm space

[plain saffron]

dock space and dorm only

[elfin hollow]

Ok

[blissful hamlet]

CN anniversary is late this month right?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KVOhAOz9wwZK0gQON0PLJrDkPEp6vg66Fh8U2LoYG4/edit?usp=sharing

[blissful hamlet]

[stark quiver]

between bis2, soyuz, musashi and nj, which 3 are best for anti medium

[fluid brook]

Musashi Bis and Soyuz

[eternal moth]

No Vanguard I assume?

[stark quiver]

nope

[void turret]

how do I grind commander exp

[eternal moth]

Using 6 ships and running the highest zone you can

[void turret]

got it

[steady beacon]

I really should get around to measuring that, for my own future reference tbh...
But no gun plates
Also, at the present moment, no AP boxes

[void turret]

should I defeat all enemies or rush the boss

[viscid swift]

defeat all enemies if you're 3 starring, otherwise rush the boss

[eternal moth]

Yep, only need to defeat all enemies once per stage

[runic bolt]

best fighters for heavy armour boss?

[steady beacon]

Is it RodM?

[verbal thistle]

This is prob a dumb question but are the music tracks from the minigame available on Spotify or smth?

[forest palm]

FW150 A-6

[plain saffron]

afaik only in youtube channel for AL JP

[runic bolt]

substitute?

[verbal thistle]

Thank you

[plain saffron]

older one are in AL EN

[steady beacon]

Any 1000lb bomb fighter is fine if you don't have the FW-190

Or VF-17s but I think I'm the only one who does that

[runic bolt]

where to see that stat?

[plain saffron]

click on the arrow

[steady beacon]

Uhhhh
Click on the fighter and it should tell you what bombs it carries
In any case, the three in question are
The F7F Tigercat, the Sea Hornet, and the XF5U uh... in EN it's "Flying Flapjack" (although I am still stuck calling it the Pancake)

[plain saffron]

nvm no need to click arrow, you can see the 1000lb bomb there

[runic bolt]

lacking a lot which one should i use?

[steady beacon]

I suppose that +13 Sea Hornet 👀

Tigercats are fine as well, the one which is second from the right on the top row

[runic bolt]

aightt

for the dive bomber is tenrai fine?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[runic bolt]

thankss

[steady beacon]

Actually, wait a second there...
If you're playing anti-heavy and you have a ship, as is evident from that equipment, with flexible fighter slot, she should carry a TB

I presume that's Hakuryuu

[runic bolt]

yeah it is

what's a tb?

ah aight

[steady beacon]

My bad, so stuck on the acronyms
Unless you are very concerned about your air defence, if you're facing a heavy boss, Hakuryuu is better served with a (converging) torpedo bomber in her slot 1

[runic bolt]

aichi b7a?

[steady beacon]

That, the Ju-87 D4, or the Saiun
Any of them is fine, you usually choose the one(s) which most help you meet the timings you want, if that is applicable (usually to sync tightly with support effects, such as a slow or stop - or, in the case of Rodney META, to desync)

[runic bolt]

alright got it thankyou

[icy mountain]

which of the 2 fighters are cost efficient? f7f or the flapjack?

[rain vine]

flapjack

[icy mountain]

trjng to decide which one is better to get in the mean time since i dint have enough mats for a wyvern

[icy mountain]

okay then

[silver lintel]

Didnt flaps cost ord?

While tigercats just take plane bps

[steady beacon]

They do, but Pancakes also take plane BPs (albeit considerably fewer, 2 to 9)
Pancake is 20 elecs vs Tigercat 21 elecs
Pancake is 6 ords vs Tigercat 21 cylinders
(I shall forget this in a few hours)
But I also have absolutely no idea what the relative rates of any of those things are, having set material scarcity (apart from UR prints) behind me long ago

[rain vine]

flapjacks are a better long-term investment

[bleak mica]

pancake can be more expensive in a sense but a solid investment.

[viscid swift]

the thing that is by far the scarcest is Ordinance reports, you're only guaranteed 6 a month with averages being around 20 or so per month for income

[atomic abyss]

Realistically
The average player would only have crafted tigercats if it was before flapjacks were introduced anyways

[viscid swift]

bearing in mind as well that they can be converted to T3 ordinance reports at a rate of 8 to 1

[elfin hollow]

Does using double oil give me double trust for the npc ship?

[plain saffron]

double everything except number of run

[elfin hollow]

Ok

[plain saffron]

and WA ticket is 1 per run, so even with 2x it still consume 1 ticket because...1 run

[elfin hollow]

Does it double the amount of moral each run takes?

[plain saffron]

double everything

[steady beacon]

For great rewards come great morale costs

[plain saffron]

hmm does it also double affinity reduction when 0 morale, i think nobody tested this yet

[steady beacon]

Prob can try asking those peeps who occasionally meme about abusing the Ugly Sisters for FDG experience grind...
I don't even let my ships fall under 120 normally, so I'm the wrong one to ask
But it probably should, since affinity gain is doubled, so by analogy

[rain vine]

no ones tested it because its hella annoying to farm at that point

[silk sphinx]

do you lose a large chunk of affinity when sinking at morale of 0?

[elfin hollow]

Which of the tech boxes are the best for beginners

[silver lintel]

Uss prolly

[elfin hollow]

Which are those?

[silver lintel]

Eagle union

[elfin hollow]

Ok

[fresh tangle]

So I can do one “mega fleet and just about reliably finish sp4 OR do the split fleet with nano and Laffey easily for sp3

[hollow gust]

Just do the higher one

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I’m overthinking it. 8 runs of that and I’m done. Easily complete before the end 😂

[still merlin]

do we use this as aux gun for BB whenever possible?

[south sequoia]

Used for BBs who could ONLY equip dd guns on their aux slots

Otherwise CL guns are better

[still merlin]

I mean sometimes I see other ppl use other gun despite the BB also possible to use DD gun

[steady beacon]

It's not a completely ridiculous option tbf, but the reason CL guns are preferred if possible (at least in PvE) is that they also provide a slightly higher FP stat boost (or, in the case of the Plymouth gun, 30 whole points' difference)

[still merlin]

ooo, I see
I was assuming same tier because Plymouth gun is another matter

[hollow gust]

If you can use cl gun , you use cl gun

That dd gun is only used for ships that can't use a cl gun, the only exception is for pvp, but that doesn't apply to campaign

[ivory crown]

what should my 2nd fleet be? im not gonna post elites but i have nelson

[hollow gust]

Make a thread , and post all your ships there

[elfin hollow]

Which should be my boss and mob fleet (trying to grind points for marco polo)

[hollow gust]

Well you can just use brunhilde fdg and Graf for in a fleet and do both

[elfin hollow]

And for the Italian side?

[wind hazel]

no need to use them

[hollow gust]

Just use Royal navy

[steady beacon]

Well, you will need Italian (or HMS) for the second half of the grind
May be easier scraping up HMS than trying to MLB those Italians though

[graceful meteor]

Aquila can be nice to have, vv not too bad, other wise just use the one you have/almost mlb

[steady beacon]

In saying that, Aquila is definitely worth investment if you have the resources

[hollow gust]

For that one just use ironblood?

[steady beacon]

Phase 2 can use HMS

[south sequoia]

They were talking about phase 2

[elfin hollow]

Im on phase one rn

[steady beacon]

Oh, the confusion is in the "or"

[wind hazel]

so use iron blood

[elfin hollow]

They’re recovering rn

[wind hazel]

use them when they are fully recovered

[south sequoia]

If you don't have good hms backline for phase 2 you can go ahead and level aquila and veneto

If you already do have a good hms backline I'd still level up aquila

Great ship overall

[elfin hollow]

Like this?

[hollow gust]

Toss them into dorm and wait , shouldn't take too long

[south sequoia]

..

[hollow gust]

Use one fleet and go to w12

Half limitbreak ships are useless

[south sequoia]

Just use one fleet, don't worry about the hms and sardegna ships until cdc 2

[elfin hollow]

I got the resources

[hollow gust]

?

[wind hazel]

[hollow gust]

Looking at those limitbreaks , clearly not, what world are you even farming at?

[elfin hollow]

W12

Some ships in recently got

[whole crypt]

I see Aquila not LB'd and wasting XP
AvP is also useless without more dev
not sure why HammII is only 2LB
same for Graf Zeppelin

also in a fleet with HammII on offtank when the other 2 ships are literal tanks

[elfin hollow]

Ik (im just rising their levels thou for opsi)

At least to level 115

[hollow gust]

If those ships have no trouble clearing w12 then sure , but I highly doubt that

[atomic abyss]

even then - why make your life more difficult

[whole crypt]

why is HammII in a position where she takes damage over 2 ships that should be soaking it

[graceful meteor]

~~manuel farming ~~

[whole crypt]

all you're doing is telling us you have no idea what you're doing with your ships, which is something you really should get a grip with before worrying about CDC

[wooden forum]

Ask which of the two is better, I left the game for almost 3 years and came back and I hardly know anything about the game haha ​​I don't have many characters either 🙂

[whole crypt]

they're both 🚮

[elfin hollow]

^^

[atomic abyss]

hunter meta, but that's like saying arsenic is healthier than cyanide

[whole crypt]

manual helps you avoid damage but it doesn't change the tank/mid/offtank dynamics

unless you're telling me you're somehow moving the fleet in a way that lets Agir take hits

[wooden forum]

And this is so good ?

[whole crypt]

not bad but not great

[graceful meteor]

decent for torp comp, which has been mmmh outdated

[wooden forum]

It's just that I have almost nothing good 😔

[whole crypt]

if you want serious fleet help start a thread with your dock

you don't need super top tier ships for most of the game

[wooden forum]

By the way, what do you think about this would be good to spend on the ?

[plain saffron]

i would do 1 or 3 pull daily and save for next event

[whole crypt]

this banner is pretty mediocre, save your resources for CN anniversary coming later this month

[plain saffron]

unless there's your waifu that you really want

[whole crypt]

just do 1 light/day and no more, event points not worth the cube spend

[wooden forum]

I understand

By the way this is all I have 😔

[whole crypt]

don't filter by rarity

there are low rarity ships that can help carry most of midgame, if you need help start a thread and post your full dock

[dense kettle]

Saint louis worth developing?

[whole crypt]

for Iris tech, otherwise not really

[atomic abyss]

you only need to develop 1 ship from PR1
most people go with roon to get the ironblood tech to unlock fdg and agir

[crimson glacier]

why need, is there a quest or something

[atomic abyss]

yeah

there are research missions PR1 thru 5

[plain saffron]

you need to develop 1 from each to unlock next season for missions

[atomic abyss]

as for what for? well the cdc packs that can be converted to protocore are nice

[sinful elk]

chat should i rush for 9-4 and onward?

[whole crypt]

if you can

[steady beacon]

Yes, provided your fleet can clear it

[atomic abyss]

w10 is a pretty large jump from w9

[sinful elk]

i feel like my mains are not ready for it tbh

[atomic abyss]

so if you only got 1 fleet, good time to get a second
w9 is a good place to level a second fleet with oil cap after all

[sinful elk]

doing rn

[whole crypt]

ch10 isn't that big a jump, it's just less level advantage when you're going into cog levels

[sinful elk]

trying to lvl up my hood and retro javelin

[atomic abyss]

it's easy to forget the suicide congo of 10-1

and the BB shelling

you at least need some gearing at that point

[whole crypt]

if you don't know what you're dealing with the suicide train can catch you off guard, but a tabasco on midlane kind of fixes most of it
ch9 already starts shelling and burning you, just not as hard

I don't see that many more players feeling screwed over by bomb train than niizuki-go-round

[sinful elk]

sound like my hood 2 bombships incident but worse?

[atomic abyss]

9-4 fidget spinner is just annoying

and yes, hood cannot deal with suicide boats to save her life

well she can tank them instead

but your carriers won't take too kindly to that

[sinful elk]

is that a boss skill

[steady beacon]

Just the movement

[whole crypt]

no, it's just the 9-4 boss move pattern

anyway, won't know till you try, if it gets rough just move backwards to grind more

[atomic abyss]

it's a merry go round yeah

[sinful elk]

flood the screen with torps then

[atomic abyss]

torps don't do too well against DDs unfortunately

[steady beacon]

Unironically how I handled it myself ngl 👀
Only worked because aforesaid torper was Shimakaze

[atomic abyss]

just use HE CA guns...

[steady beacon]

But yes, there are like... at least a dozen better ways

[atomic abyss]

wait

what

[sinful elk]

kronstadth finally got out of dock

[atomic abyss]

did like

30 mins of messages just disappear

or am i just lagging

[steady beacon]

[plain saffron]

not for me

[jaunty vault]

smh admin abuse

[jaunty vault]

no

[jaunty vault]

possibly

[steady beacon]

See nothing off on my end, at least...

[whole jolt]

What does this mean?

[jaunty vault]

oath ring

[whole jolt]

To oath someone?

[dense kettle]

Oathing

[whole jolt]

NOOO

[jaunty vault]

yes

[dense kettle]

Nah, i just like her aesthetics

[atomic abyss]

that was weird
i was lagging mad lol
suddenly had 30 mins of chat vanish

[rain vine]

oath waifu
dont really have to think about it 👍

[sinful elk]

perhaps i should stop putting her in the flagship position she just died to 3 bombships again gg

[atomic abyss]

no, you NEED her to be in flag or she's completely useless

[rain vine]

you have to put her in flag unless you want to miss half of her barrage

[atomic abyss]

[rain vine]

[atomic abyss]

well no shit
she's level 47 in w9

[rain vine]

no kidding shes dying
shes significantly under levelled

[steady beacon]

At that point, you're just geting killed by sheer level disadvantage

[atomic abyss]

if you don't got another BB to kill the boats on her behalf that will happen

[sinful elk]

This is kinda rough i ain stragetist

[plain saffron]

exp pack her up, or bring another bb with her to lvl her up

[steady beacon]

Two ways
Bring a second BB to help draw fire/shoot at boats
And exp pack her up

Gdi, Nagami...

[plain saffron]

[atomic abyss]

typing speed is also a skill issue

[sinful elk]

i think i can place charybdis in the main fleet and put laffey, warspite in her fleet

[steady beacon]

I gotta ask, how did Charybdis ever end up on the table as a ship to be trained up 👀

Or is it just as a waifu thing

[sinful elk]

well thats the first thing but another reason is no one in my dock is lvl 90 like her and belfast

would try to do helena but she just keep dying worse than hood

[steady beacon]

What level is Helena?

[sinful elk]

52

[steady beacon]

Yep, that'd be why lol

Level disadvantage, especially of that magnitude, imposes some pretty severe penalties...

[plain saffron]

go clear 9-1 until it's safe, then lvl hood and helena there

[wooden forum]

I see, thanks, which channel is that series on?

[void turret]

what are the best ways to spend gems?

[atomic abyss]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from a free-to-play perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As a free-to-play player, you can get up to 4150 guaranteed gems (3500 for 3* clearing all 14 main campaign worlds, 500 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from mini-events or from maintenance compensations.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on base upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything. Some examples of how to best spend your gems are listed below. Note, that every example utilizes 3900 gems, which requires clearing every chapter up to and including World 13, so specific order is left up to player.

🔹 4 Dorm slots, 2nd Floor, 3rd Academy slot, +100 Dock space
"A little bit of everything" upgrade that allows for the faster skill upgrade process and completely functional dorm together with 2nd floor and high dock capacity.

🔹 5 Dorm slots, 2nd Floor, +90 Dock space
Dorm focused upgrade that ignores academy in favour of bigger dorm, allows for higher passive EXP gain and morale restoration compared to previous one. Recommended for active players.

🔹 +150 Dock space, 4 Dorm slots
Extremely heavy dock focused upgrade, mostly recommended for players who want to collect a lot of characters, while still having a functional dorm. Alternatively possible to ignore 4th dorm in favour of +30 Dock space and slightly higher per-ship EXP gain in the dorm (due to having fewer ships). Not recommended for players who play actively due to poor ability to restore morale.

Please note, that while these are "recommended" upgrades, players are free to use their own judgement. For example, 5th dorm slot can be exchanged for 2nd dorm floor depending on preferences (5th dorm for higher passive EXP gain, 2nd floor for easier farming with morale restoration) and vice versa. Any upgrade can be ignored in favour of additional dock slots or the other way around, but generally recommended amount is +100 slots (up to 250).

[late flame]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KVOhAOz9wwZK0gQON0PLJrDkPEp6vg66Fh8U2LoYG4/edit

[steady beacon]

With the caveat that we don't even believe in any of those recommendations anymore

[worldly lion]

Does these shops ever reset? This is my 2nd month in OS. Before the reset, there was a timer in each port but now the shops seemed to have been consolidated.

[steady beacon]

Do have to ask, though, in what world ever was 3rd Academy slot seriously considered
What was the reasoning back then?

[atomic abyss]

because you had more skill books than you'd know what to do with if you only had 2

[atomic abyss]

resets at the end of every month

[rain vine]

they changed how opsi shops work to be based on zones cleared

[sinful elk]

how do you get that panel i thought we have to go through different ports

[atomic abyss]

and frankly, even with 3, i'd argue it's more or less equal to the rate of gain

[steady beacon]

We did, once upon a time
It got fixed/improved some time ago though

[late flame]

clear opsi story

[atomic abyss]

4 is the only one which i think you'll get a net loss of skill books

[sinful elk]

the zones nearby the middle core is really impossible for me

[atomic abyss]

you can... go around
which is what you're meant to do

[steady beacon]

Oh, you mean the pre-story finish port shops are still segregated according to the four AL ports? That I did not know

[rain vine]

you dont need to clear those to finish opsi story for shop reset

[sinful elk]

iirc the laststory mission is 5-6-0 torus?

[rose whale]

is hindy a good tank / can she tank?

[worldly lion]

Oh then that's good then.

[steady beacon]

Probably depends on what enemy you have in mind for her to face and who else is in the fleet

[worldly lion]

Last month there were icons over each port saying "resets in 3 days"

[rose whale]

w15? or opsi boss

currently i'm using guam and anchor

[steady beacon]

Oh damn, so the pre-story clear OpSi shops are exactly like the pre-upgrade port shops...

[steady beacon]

I personally wouldn't ask her to tank either
In that comp, she goes in centre

[atomic abyss]

if you're using guam and ancho
hinden middle for sure lol

[rose whale]

yeah that's what I'm doing. just want to know if I can replace anchor with some other boat 😄

[steady beacon]

... are you... triple BB'ing W15?

[rain vine]

really hoping thats opsi

[atomic abyss]

that's boss fleet i assume...?

[rose whale]

ah no this is opsi fleet

[steady beacon]

Oh that's OpSi...
Then where's Agir

[atomic abyss]

agir is the prime tank for BB fleets

[rose whale]

for the -spd?

[whole crypt]

Agir's slow and AB is kind of cope, not like you need either of them by this day and age

[atomic abyss]

well better than nothing

[late flame]

not really if zwei in fleet but still agir is the better tank in bb fleet

[whole crypt]

I'm more curious what Agir's damage with BisZwei's buff is compared to Kronshtadt

[atomic abyss]

btw, which is more important
BB Hit, BB rld or CV rld

[steady beacon]

... Um... does it even matter
I want Kron cross-fleet to the BBs regardless...

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhhh... I would take CV RLD but I am... very biased...

[atomic abyss]

im choosing stuff to fleet tech that's why

[whole crypt]

hit is the least important in terms of making timings for copying comps, I'd go with CV RLD first since BBs are mostly fine for 20s with the rainbow lineup

[steady beacon]

Nah, first message was the Kron vs Agir damage comparison
If you're talking about it academically, fine, but I would never ever consider Kron in the BB fleet

-2 spread for everyone is infinitely more valuable than a slight damage improvement, even if it is one

[inland shoal]

Imo hit and reload are of pretty equal importance

[whole crypt]

you're kind of overstating the importance of - spread there

if just for the sake of copying a comp RLD is compulsory, HIT is more important for making sure the hits connect of course

[fickle scarab]

Vanguard, table and that aux we got gets us more than enough reduction tho?

[crimson glacier]

well reload is important until its not

[whole crypt]

yeh

[whole crypt]

VG only buffs flag and we only have 1 table for now, even then -spread is nice to have but you're not going to see damage numbers wildly off without it

[steady beacon]

[crimson glacier]

imo spread isnt really a big deal

[whole crypt]

it's not like without the -spread you'll consistently miss 1 out of your 3 triple shells

[atomic abyss]

spread can be helpful but i'd argue it isn't THAT big of a dealeo ye

unless your name is

[south sequoia]

I'd honestly prefer triple dps over agir in opsi to be honest, unzen plymouth and hinden dish out enough damage while eating hits to not really need agirs absurd tankiness

[whole crypt]

but I can't take Hindenburg out of my mob fleet

[whole jolt]

Guys where can I find guides? Cause I dont see anything pinned in this channel

[south sequoia]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 New Player's Guide by .Snub and Community TL

🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[south sequoia]

woopsies

[atomic abyss]

that's because we have them in commands

[south sequoia]

just read up here and ask if you need any clarifications

[whole jolt]

There is nothing about shipyard

[steady beacon]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[steady beacon]

... Gdi, I need to learn these

[south sequoia]

Have you tried checking the english community guide compendium

[mint flint]

#bot-spam any of these help?

[south sequoia]

It's a compilation of all the guides written, and has a research and shipyard guide.

[steady beacon]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research - here's the specific page on research/shipyard

[whole crypt]

how am I supposed to know resaerch refers to shipyard

[fallow lark]

So, enty and independence, is it worth to make 2 wyvern?

[crisp estuary]

[lone iron]

Well, as a new player (chapter 4) i got new jersey. I guess i should use her in my team? I still don't understand how to make a good team and i'm following the newbie chapters walkthrough 😂

[atomic abyss]

no because you won't be able to limit break her

[south sequoia]

NJ will always be bad until you get her final star

[lone iron]

Oh, that's sad

[south sequoia]

That generally goes to every ship in the game

[atomic abyss]

same applies to any ship really, but ESPECIALLY backliners

[south sequoia]

Frontliners are able to make up for it sometimes but backliners don't have that luxury

[lone iron]

Well, i'll continue to follow the guide

[sinful elk]

oh yeah what is the hit stat

[atomic abyss]

accuracy stat basically

higher hit means higher chance to ignore evasion

[sinful elk]

i see

[plain saffron]

/accuracy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.

Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.

[sinful elk]

and about saratoga, does she works well with w9 above

[atomic abyss]

yes she does

especially with her retrofit and her augment

[south sequoia]

I'd go hit first unless you badly need one shotting for meta and other stuff

[atomic abyss]

i can't even 2 shot consistently

[south sequoia]

have you tried gitting gud

[atomic abyss]

i mean i did finally manage to 2hko rodM... like once

[empty knot]

The rainbow 457mm is that good on bismark ?

FdG is on research

[atomic abyss]

the rainbow 457 is good for ANY BB that is going to be facing medium or heavy armoured enemies

if you have yet to even get FDG, you probably aren't at the point where medium armour enemies dominate for mobbing

[empty knot]

i'm on chapter 12

[south sequoia]

It doesn't get that serious until w13+

[atomic abyss]

then i guess you could use it
but i'd just take the HE guns for now
cheaper to upgrade too

[empty knot]

yes that's why i begin stuff

the raibow one on proto shop ?

[atomic abyss]

yeah but there are higher priorities than the 457 in the protocore shop tho

[south sequoia]

Tenrai > Plygun > 457

[empty knot]

Just finished the 457 that's why i'm asking

Tenrai ?

[steady beacon]

Well, if you want to one- or two-shot in future, you will want that RLD tech 👀
Note that some RLD for both are gated by old cruise passes, incidentally

[vapid vector]

the dive bomber

[atomic abyss]

the best dive bomber in the game

[empty knot]

okay

and the plygun ?

[atomic abyss]

best CL gun in the game

[empty knot]

rainbow ?

[atomic abyss]

yes

quad 152

[empty knot]

okay got it

so now focus on diver and after that the CL gun

[sinful elk]

is this one worth crafting

[atomic abyss]

it's good, but not exactly worth crafting from gearlab

[sinful elk]

what other way to get it?

[serene moth]

Which one should i do first, guam, laff 2, York 2 or shima?

[steady beacon]

The agony of choice...
What other ships have you got available? Since it'll probably influence who gets priority

[empty knot]

Guam looks like so good

[atomic abyss]

you can get it through PR1... but it's not exactly worth either
i believe it was farmable but not worth either

i mean, guam, laff2 and york2 are all high prios
in a vaccuum, prob york2, but need to see what other URs there are

[sinful elk]

i am in debt of cl guns tho

[atomic abyss]

the purple twin 150mms will serve you well enough for quite a while

[sinful elk]

this?

[atomic abyss]

yes, that

[vapid vector]

CL aren’t exactly the biggest damage dealers save plymouth and that CL gun in question is usually used on BBs as secondaries

[atomic abyss]

not... really?

[steady beacon]

The issue with the Neptune gun in Gear Lab is that it has a... positively absurd chain
You need to build upwards three times
AND it costs 8 ordnance reports

[vapid vector]

not really as in the damage dealer part or bb secondary part

[atomic abyss]

people only use the tbtsk as BB secondary when suicide boats are actually threats

if they're not an issue, no harm chucking the ol' 155 (no kai) for the stat stick

[serene moth]

I have ulrich, yuudachi, mushashi, haku, friedrich, kron, shinano, Diego and vanguard

[vapid vector]

was referring to 152mm above

[atomic abyss]

the og gold 155 is largely worse than the tbtsk

[empty knot]

maybe one day i will go on OpSi ... xD

[atomic abyss]

ah

[atomic abyss]

i'd say york2 then

no agir?

[serene moth]

I do but not done

[atomic abyss]

but kron is mlb?

[serene moth]

Ye

[atomic abyss]

yeah than york2
since kron covers the tank front and sandy covers the aa one imo

[serene moth]

I have agir at 25

[empty knot]

i have vanguard but didn't know what to do with her xD

[worldly lion]

Is this a good buy? I mostly have purple corsair and hellcat fighters, and a flapjack from gear labs

[steady beacon]

Wait a second, what fleet have you got in mind there for York II? 👀 With the IJNs or...?

[atomic abyss]

white and black shell higher prios

[atomic abyss]

or enty

[sinful elk]

uhh how do i get this one

[crimson glacier]

is that gear lab thing

[sinful elk]

yea

[steady beacon]

Yes; farm in OpSi

[atomic abyss]

opsi kek

[crimson glacier]

all gear lab stuff is from opsi

[sinful elk]

Yeah i get that but is there a specific zone

[crimson glacier]

no

[sinful elk]

on god fr...?

[crimson glacier]

in opsi you just do whatever and you get the stuff

[serene moth]

Aight

[steady beacon]

Just keep farming, you basically only build up a good collection of the materials by grinding continuously
There isn't really a drop bias on the materials... although there is a use bias, in that a lot of the good equipment uses the gold electronics

[sinful elk]

well i start to feel like my gears are not keeping up with my ships

[steady beacon]

Same, but for different reasons
Early game, that is more or less inevitable unfortunately...

No real way around it apart from just continuing to farm over time... just keep going, and you will eventually reach a point where your ability to craft gear lab stuff equals, and then ultimately far exceeds your needs, and the only things gating your equipment improvements at that point is the scarcity of gold plates and UR prints, and the rainbow equipment in PR research... but that's getting way ahead of myself...

[willow dust]

is it better to strategic search explorable or secured areas if i cant do any hidden zone

[crimson glacier]

secured doesnt have anyting

[inland shoal]

Explorables are one time only

[crimson glacier]

wait no its the other way around

[inland shoal]

You should do all of them each month anyway

[crimson glacier]

yeah you can do explored only once per node, so you should do them all once

and only after that i would start to do hiddens and whatelse

and onlywhen theres nothing going on in the map i would do secured

[willow dust]

so explorable > hidden > secured?

[crimson glacier]

explorable > anything that has icon > secured

[willow dust]

fuck i did hidden first thinking it gave more rewards
anyway thanks for the info

[inland shoal]

I mean it doesn't matter that much in the end as long as you don't spend all your APs on secured

[fresh tangle]

I have 80 medals. Do I get enterprise or hood first and who do I swap out?

[atomic abyss]

hood first to swap out penny

[main latch]

Is this useful for anyone

[atomic abyss]

it is VERY useful when upgraded in gear lab
for now, just yeet it for your BB secondary

[main latch]

Okay thanks.

[novel condor]

me every opsi be like

[atomic abyss]

by the way, i know they're mostly irrelevant at this point, but does anyone have a DD DPS chart

[vale spindle]

rainbow >= ddg >= kawakaze > rest

[atomic abyss]

is kawa's damage seriously that high

[south sequoia]

yep

she spams her barrages and her torps are great

[vale spindle]

torp scaling augment barrage thats aimed and ignores shields goes hard

[crimson glacier]

her torps are meh

[south sequoia]

not to mention she has slight bulk since she gains temporary DR per barrage

[whole jolt]

Why tf is this game so complex

[vale spindle]

ask the devs not us

[crimson glacier]

its only complex at start

[vale spindle]

but everything is complicated if you look deep enough

[crimson glacier]

when you realize so many ships just want the same gears its not that complex

[vale spindle]

also unrelated but you should click the cat print

[south sequoia]

It gets simpler the later you go through the game
Though later on in the game you unlock much harder content and boss fights where it gets really complicated

[whole jolt]

Yeah... That is what I mean with this game. Its not complex until you want to maximize your strength you just got to look deeper on alot of guides and stuff...

[vale spindle]

welcome to life

[crimson glacier]

minmaxing is always complex

[quick mason]

guy's where to use my 25k oil?

[late flame]

buy dorm food, though its better just to sortie

[quick mason]

any others that will build my ships?

how to get more gold weapons? and upgrades?

[atomic abyss]

playing the game, which involves sortie-ing, which uses oil

[blissful hamlet]

Teck box and gear lab

[quick mason]

okay okay

tech box can be bought?

[atomic abyss]

you can, but those need coins, which you earn from maps for playing the game

gear lab requires to you play operation siren

in other words, unless you're using the oil to play story maps or the morale regen period to do opsi

you can't run away from the grind of the game

[south sequoia]

You could always buy that 5 dollar package to make you level 70, but you still have to do grinding, but you gain a massive variety of helpful stuff

[main latch]

I'm not on AL right now what does it do?

[steady beacon]

It's for Akashi's quest

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[south sequoia]

Which ship fires off the yellow spears?

[whole crypt]

tablet barrage

[south sequoia]

Oh

[plain saffron]

but that's an emulator, not tablet

[gloomy mesa]

I already pulled a few times and leveled up some ships before i looked at the beginner guide. Can someone help me build a decent fleet

[elfin hollow]

Make thread, post dock.

[torn salmon]

what does Fllet Lovk mean for O. Siren ?

[plain saffron]

skip the fleet preparation UI or whatever it's actual name, same as main campaign

[tame orchid]

What the fuck is a siren rally point

[vale spindle]

if you use scan, can't you click on stuff until it appears

[tame orchid]

Ah

[crimson grove]

sammmmmm
what does the new anti med BB line up look like now
Soyuz Bis2 VG?

[south sequoia]

still musashi bis2 vg

soyuz was only placed over musashi because of opsi and soyuz is more flexible

but in a non-opsi context, musashi will perform better

[crimson grove]

naruhodo
meta fights would have sushi
but harbiter would have soyuz
is what I'm getting?
need to copy new opsi hw from some dalao out there or wait for new UR to join the fold

[unborn thunder]

Whats Volga used for

[south sequoia]

It's not that black and white musashi would perform better in heavy/med but soyuz is just better for flexing so you don't have a deadweight ship for light armored bosses

[wind hazel]

do damage with secondary healing

[south sequoia]

It just so happens to that soyuz also performs great in med/heavy

[crimson grove]

ah

[wind hazel]

i thought soyuz perform better in med?

[worldly pewter]

do u have fdg in the other fleet ?

[south sequoia]

That question was already answered and fdg doesnt have a crossfleet

[steady beacon]

No, it is the barrage from the RPG Aux
Also, FDG does not have a cross-fleet, perhaps you're thinking of UvH

[worldly pewter]

i saw that skill couple times too but i don't know who fires that

[unborn thunder]

Is she mob-oriented? How relevant is she in general contents

[wind hazel]

she shines at w14 and 15

[unborn thunder]

How so?

[wind hazel]

still good anywhere else before that though

[south sequoia]

She shines in boss and mob fleet for either world since a secondary healer is great

[crimson grove]

Soryuu M is medium armor ya? the meta boss

[south sequoia]

Sustain with damage is great for a ruthless world

[steady beacon]

Ngl, this is a genuinely excellent question...
Which I do want to test later this month, plates willing...
But in the sense of fundamentally changing the calculus, Idt it really does; either one probably works fine
Also, I use Musashi/Bis/Soyuz, sue me

[late flame]

i wanna time travel back to when i can get vg and sushi

[wind hazel]

suchi tested the difference on uh, the challenge mode with KGV

thought the conclusion was musashi still king on heavy but soyuz slightly better on med, or was i mistaken

[south sequoia]

Oh was it?

[steady beacon]

No idea tbh
I only care for the Arbiter
But I can believe both conclusions

[wind hazel]

yeah i guess a lot of other factors to account for, but i believe the difference is really marginal

[sinful elk]

Does total power really say anything

[south sequoia]

In my tests, soyuz slightly underperforms
But I think soyuz is getting cucked due to loss of shell and needing to adjust to timing
My one issue with her is the fact she fires too close to zwei so you need to tweak her around

[steady beacon]

Is that on CM

[south sequoia]

Any content I would use soyuz on

Especially for fights with a shorter time limit

[steady beacon]

Nothing really meaningful, no
It's really only uh... relevant for fleet power peeps
Which I guess technically matters for the RPG aux, but that's no reason to scuff your equipment

[wind hazel]

with soyuz you can 1tap light arbiter

[south sequoia]

wasnt the fleet something like soyuz kear zwei

[wind hazel]

pilica used that i believe i used vg instead of kear

[steady beacon]

If it's shorter time limit, I simply ignore the sync order tbh
I'll take my shell
Bis Zwei goes first, I can live with that

Granted, if anti-med, I can just change my BB guns around but... I don't have enough plates just yet to test that...

[south sequoia]

Somebody give me the 1 tap fleet for light arbiter I wanna get it over with

[late flame]

strength? think at least 2 fleets no thanks to the pesky shield

[steady beacon]

Ngl, that's what I thought too
But after Temperance last month I was inspired...
And I realised, at least on manual Strength with anti-shell shield can be oneshotted with BBs...

It's hilariously RNG, of course, but it is possible...

[late flame]

i almost got pwned by harbiter strength because my mob fleet is 70% healers lol

[south sequoia]

Oh I thought it was a guaranteed thing

[steady beacon]

Wait, do you want a Strength fleet or a Temperance fleet?

Temperance is the light Arbiter that Mori was talking about

[lament hazel]

Who should I use for my Shimanto PR Fark, general settings

[south sequoia]

Uh is temperance the arbiter this month?

[steady beacon]

Strength is the Arbiter this month

[late flame]

its now strength (med)

[south sequoia]

yuudachi azuma noshiro

[lament hazel]

which Noshiro

[south sequoia]

normal

if it was muse I would've said museshiro

[lament hazel]

ok

ok

[torn salmon]

if you mean the vanguard exp justc choose the highest lvl

[round hare]

Is Saiun Kai a good torp bomber? Since its not mentioned on the gear guide

[plain saffron]

good yes

[round hare]

How good comparing to purple tenzan

[plain saffron]

better iirc

saiun kai is the gold one right

[round hare]

Ye

Does it have other names or its just not mentioned on gear guide

[plain saffron]

yeah should be better
ryuusei/junker/saiun kai, people mix and match to get right timing usually

[round hare]

I see

[plain saffron]

it's lowest dmg out of the 3 but fastest reload time

ryuusei highest but slowest

[round hare]

I see

[plain saffron]

this one. rightmost top

wait do i switched it with something else

correct one already

[worldly pewter]

i never heard of saiun kai before but i heard about tenzan kai

[steady beacon]

I shorten it to Saiun bc lazy
Since we don't have a non-Kai Saiun in the game afaik

(Although I wouldn't put it past them to create one for the Gear Lab whenever they put PR4 eqs there...)

[worldly pewter]

i mean even in the jp version there is no mention of the name nakajima for some reason

[plain saffron]

prob wiki naming again

[steady beacon]

Oh ye, some of the wiki names don't match in-game
They are all the correct proper names, so I'm more inclined to blame the game, actually

[plain saffron]

localization is hard

[worldly pewter]

[steady beacon]

It's a bit like how e.g. on the wiki some planes are like
Grumman F6F Hellcat, or Vought F4U Corsair
Where Grumman and Vought, and Nakajima, incidentally, are the names of the manufacturers of the respective planes

[plain saffron]

afaik saiun only exist in barrages/skills

[whole crypt]

I just call it Saiun TB because the other Saiun is a seaplane

[steady beacon]

Yep... Shinano and Taihou being the two I remember

[whole crypt]

or TB can be omitted if context makes it obvious

[worldly pewter]

so they just want to be more informative ?

[steady beacon]

Idk, ask the green name 👀
As a history nerd, I appreciate it, at least

[plain saffron]

i don't make the decision and i don't remember why

does CN have the manufacturer?

[whole crypt]

nope

only EN bothers with that detail

[plain saffron]

bcs wiki exist for things EN doesn't have yet, so wiki made their own translation that end up not being same as official EN

[sinful elk]

Chat is she good

[plain saffron]

and this prob just making it consistent with all older ones

[whole crypt]

not bad

[steady beacon]

She's fine but... can you afford to MLB her

[sinful elk]

Maybe later when im done with Hood

[whole crypt]

well is there some reason you want to, because Hood works fine

[sinful elk]

In theory we can get 3 gold bulins in 1 week right?

[steady beacon]

Ummmm

[whole crypt]

weekly mission is only 1? if you're including merit you don't earn merit fast enough for 2 each week

[sinful elk]

Medals tho?

[whole crypt]

medal shop is monthly refresh

[steady beacon]

You definitely get one per week from weekly
Two per month from medals
And one extra per month from monthly
And I'm pretty sure you can get two per season (so one per week, on average) from PvP, provided you can score well enough

[whole crypt]

if you score well, 1 is more realistic

[sinful elk]

Oh and uh when will the current rank reset?

[wind hazel]

tomorrow

if you're thinking of MLBing that Belorussiya, well, I suggest to just hold your bulin

[sinful elk]

Mlbing Hood actually then belo later

[plain saffron]

there might be better BB by next event, so save

[steady beacon]

What exactly is your definition of "score well", here?
Because I feel our assumptions must diverge on this point...

[plain saffron]

you can only get 20000 with 80% win rate, only top top can earn 30k

[sharp token]

what goodies to build here?

[steady beacon]

Dear God, the assumption of "score well" is 80% win rate??

[late flame]

and God answerth, " no its 100%"

[steady beacon]

That would be my definition

[novel condor]

for what content? looks like u got some good BBs there alrd

[sharp token]

for both boss and mob fleet

[inland shoal]

Idk if the average pvp player is rather willing to reset or lose tbh

[late flame]

tbh if i'm at work i just take the L and move on since i still gain medals (albeit halved)

[steep merlin]

Can someone send the core shop guide from some time ago? I dont know what to buy

[steady beacon]

... I suppose I have some warped perceptions lol
Idk, I've always found PvP... a lot easier than other content in this game (although perhaps this may be a server-dependent thing)
Like, I achieved AotN before completing W14, and long before I could even contemplate one shotting an Arbiter or META

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[novel condor]

Mob
Richy, Izumo, Amagi

Boss
NJ, Warspite, Howe

[late flame]

never got aotn but then again i always use gridman fleet so i never expected to lol

[steady beacon]

As long as you have a blast doing it tbh
Gridman fleet is hella fun

[whole crypt]

80% is not easy for players who can't make some form of meta for PvP though, not to mention you usually need to be winning good opponents to get admiral ranks

[late flame]

or just have rng to slot high rank fielding meme fleets on left-most opponent

too bad most of them these days just blindly follow pvp meta for god knows why

[steady beacon]

Tbh, if you saw the semi-meme builds I brought in my early days, that would get me publicly shamed by the serious PvPers, and which could overcome all but the most perfectly geared meta fleets, with enough luck... I don't think you need to straight copy-paste a meta fleet in order to achieve AotN (for context, this was the Italian meta, and I started after both Daedalian and Mirror Invol)
But again, this experience may vary by server, since I know (at least by legend) that some servers have a higher proportion of serious fleets than others

[worldly pewter]

i d prioritize tech for the DR fleets in research after minmaxing the N R and elites

[undone plover]

has anyone done the math on how many retro BP is needed total for all the ships in the game?
i have been farming cruiser for a while and wanna know when i should switch and to what

[whole crypt]

just swap to the type you need, you can come back for cruiser prints again if you need them again

[undone plover]

sure. but i dont rly need anything right now. guess i can swap to DD

[torn raft]

which piece of ur gear lab gear should i prioritize, the bb gun, the aa gun or the dd gun?

[whole crypt]

you'll run out of uses for retrofit prints eventually, it's normal

[whole crypt]

wyvern

[late flame]

just petition to make research ships scrappable and do research again

[torn raft]

already have 1

[whole crypt]

you can use more than 1

[torn raft]

but my ur prints

[whole crypt]

the only thing you can make with that is probably the DD gun

[torn raft]

probably can get enough material for all 3 of those in this month

[whole crypt]

then more wyverns

[normal crane]

How to deal with suicide boats on chap 10?

[whole crypt]

use BBs with proper aux guns

[torn raft]

by this i mean i probably can get 2-3 more ur gear design, not 8 more for the wyvern

[eternal basalt]

Depends if he still got the dossiers (and points to buy them)

[whole crypt]

457 doesn't use UR designs, it uses ordnance reports
so it's either the AA gun or DD gun, and that'll also depend on your other materials, and which you'll need more

I think you mean the classified loggers and vouchers

[torn raft]

i used 3 custom ur design plan on this, is that a good idea

[whole crypt]

no

but you already used them, so

[normal crane]

I'm using new jersey, what's the best aux for her

[whole crypt]

can you make the lab gun

[normal crane]

Me?

[whole crypt]

yes, this

next best would probably be this

if you don't have either, considering using a second BB

[normal crane]

Nope, I haven't unlocked the operation siren shop yet

[ionic mango]

Hello, does eugen muse count as IB EXP for research?

[normal crane]

Really low on mats

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[torn raft]

what other aux should i be using on fdg? currently have 1k core data so i could buy 1 shell

[whole crypt]

white shell

[torn raft]

ok what's the other one

[half plover]

I have a question about tech points

[whole crypt]

also FdG wants a CL gun for aux gun

[half plover]

will muse ships give tech points for mlb if I didnt mlb the standard version yet?

[steady beacon]

White shell + HPFCR is fine
And change her secondary to a CL gun (if you have one that is better, at least)

[atomic abyss]

They give no tech points

[whole crypt]

1k core is only enough for one shell

[half plover]

alr

[whole crypt]

if you're asking which aux to take off don't use FuMO on BBs

[eternal basalt]

Type /fleettech in #bot-spam

[torn raft]

which gun

[steady beacon]

Triple 155, same one Helena is carrying

[ionic mango]

thank you. so they just contribute for faction exp for research and NOT for fleet tech, is that right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[half plover]

for limited ships out of the guild shop - for example z18. do I want to get one copy and mlb them with purple bulins or wait until any events give them?

for IB tech

[plain saffron]

buy if you have spare coins, else bulins

i prefer buying ship i don't have yet because i'm chasing collection

[eternal basalt]

Check if guild is onky spot, bylin for LMB limited... the rest you could afford to get extra copies

[half plover]

ty

[plain saffron]

limited should be shop only

it's from old monthly login iirc

[half plover]

I think I got one limited ship either from the kron event banner or from any kron stages

[eternal basalt]

Most others are too

[half plover]

but I really cant tell

[torn raft]

how do i know which bb needs to be flagship, which one doesn't, and which one needs flagship more than the other (in the same fleet)?

[atomic abyss]

Some of them specifically have skills that want them to be in the flagship

Others have barrages, though it's hard to tell which BB barrage needs to be flag without actually seeing said barrage
Some are aimed, some are based on where they sit

[steady beacon]

... I was going to suggest the barrage data but I think that might do more harm than good right now...

[atomic abyss]

The barrage pattern gifs themselves do not help on their own

Tho
Doesn't ectl list which BBs need flag lol

[steady beacon]

Nah, I meant Riceist's tables
Since he does mention which barrages are targeted
But one look at that page might lead to fainting tbh lol

[atomic abyss]

[whole crypt]

ectl has a tag for flagship but tag

[normal crane]

Is this cope for her?

[undone plover]

aa gun and aux gun could be better otherwise very good especially for light armor

[torn raft]

should i run triple carrier (volga + unicord + perseus) in w14 mob?

[whole crypt]

you'll die without a BB in 14

[undone plover]

u need BB for suicide boats

volga uni and FdG if u have her is solid

[normal crane]

Only have these

[torn raft]

fdg only at dev 27 tho

[undone plover]

if u get these 2 in future it is better since they give her hit stat. bur for now any aa gun is better than none

[steady beacon]

Biggest issue is the LB2 probably
The better AA gun would be an ACC-boosting one ideally (STAAG or Hazemeyer), while there are a couple of DD guns that would be superior... in lieu of better options though, it's fine enough

I keep getting sniped (serious skill issues)
Top one is the STAAG, bottom is Hazemeyer, for reference

[normal crane]

Got it, I need like 3 more blueprints for the bottom one

I don't think I have any blueprints for the top one tho

[undone plover]

u can wait till she is dev30 or if u want u can post your BB here if not sure who else to use. chapter 14 does require some niche fleet building so if u are not sure on the entire fleet better to just open a thread

[torn raft]

alr imma make a thread about w14 fleet

[steady beacon]

Also note that there is really no obligation whatsoever to rush past W12, so... you could just hold off W14 until FDG is Dev 30
Bc it can be really painful to go in without at least a good number of solid ships

[late flame]

operation siren

[lament hazel]

how long I need to wait until my ship morale back to 120? if I put them on rest area

[steady beacon]

Keep farming
It is the most in demand of the "materials", though (excluding reports, blueprints, etc.)

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Morale

[steady beacon]

+4 morale/6 minutes on first floor of dorm, +5 morale/6 minutes on second floor
+1 more if oathed for both

[icy mountain]

is there any way to get these things fast

oh wait my discord bugged, my question is already answered. Thanks

[dawn whale]

Smh

[lament hazel]

noted so...

I need to wait for 144 minutes eh

[normal crane]

Is it worth it to buy meta mats?

[worldly pewter]

why do u have this shop ?

[late flame]

not yet cleared opsi will be that shop

[worldly pewter]

oh someone who forgot about this game mode

i think u just ignore them get the plates and wait for the reset right ?

also next time ignore the med stuff

[normal crane]

Can't progress more cuz enemy ships are level 118

[eternal basalt]

You can turn Hazemayer > STAAG in the weapons lab

[icy mountain]

how much anchorage blueprints do i need? including her fs5

[eternal basalt]

If you ignore them they're gone on reset

[worldly pewter]

this sounds like tuning issues

[normal crane]

Can I buy staag blueprints from the shop?

[icy mountain]

or how much blueprint does an ssr pr ship need including their fs5?

[normal crane]

I only play for a month so yeah, there's so many things that I don't understand

[worldly pewter]

u can check that ingame
top right corner

[worldly pewter]

there is a tuning adaptation mechanic in opsi

[eternal basalt]

Also medkit good to cycle shop content

[icy mountain]

wth 484

[eternal basalt]

Replaces it

[normal crane]

How does that work

[worldly pewter]

so u want to buy as many as u can so the next reset won't give u the same item ?

[normal crane]

The level thingy? Im at VI now

[worldly pewter]

then u are somewhat in a good adapatation level for normal maps

u shouldn't be struggling overall

[normal crane]

It's just my vanguard can't really survive

Especially Z23 and Helena

[steady beacon]

Is your tank... Portland...?

[worldly pewter]

yeah

lvl 112 as it seems

[eternal basalt]

Use the healing items

And try to get better ships

[undone plover]

343 for dev30. 165 for FS5 so total 508 for gold ships
513 for dev30. 215 for FS5 so total 728 for rainbow (DR) ships

not all ships have FS5 though

[steady beacon]

The solution to all problems in this game, really

[keen sable]

508

[normal crane]

Idk if my fleet can survive w11 and so on

[undone plover]

try and see. if u struggle with boss node out of ammo maybe time to start a second fleet

but also NJ isnt full star so it probably will struggle

[keen sable]

one fleeting 11...smh

[eager mulch]

non mlb NJ

[normal crane]

So it's impossible for w11? Having quite a hard time on w10 but I managed to clear it

[normal crane]

I'm waiting for spark so I can mlb her

[undone plover]

if u have enough ships it will be easier to start a second fleet than trying to force one fleeting 11 and beyond

[eager mulch]

I can one fleet W11

[normal crane]

[worldly pewter]

whale strat
can't say more

[normal crane]

Quite lucky with it, I don't need to use any UR bullin to mlb her

[silk sphinx]

Bold strategy cotton, with a new UR event fast approaching

Let’s see if it pays off.

[normal crane]

I'm cooked by then for sure

[silk sphinx]

End of month folks, don’t empty your cube reserves

[undone plover]

waiting for spark to MLB NJ is fine but in your case u are actually using her so just better to use UR bulins and MLB her.
so either wait for spark and bench her for now. or just bite the bullet and use the bulins
if u mean pulling outside of event to build spark then yeah that is a very bad idea

[normal crane]

I really want Unzen and Soyuz too, but I heard they're really far from coming back again

[undone plover]

that is why u save cubes and ensure u have 400 for new UR so u dont have to wait 2 years

[mental marlin]

which items should i buy in the even shop? i already got one prinz eugen u and have 7k left

[crisp estuary]

[jaunty vault]

#event-faq message

[normal crane]

When's the next UR will be released tho? I'm quite casual playing this game, just aiming for design wise character

[undone plover]

~3 weeks most likely

[plain saffron]

later this month

most likely 23rd

[keen sable]

a few weeks

[normal crane]

Another Livestream?

[plain saffron]

no news

[viscid swift]

Wait and see

[blissful hamlet]

Is there already stream link?

[keen sable]

if there was a stream link then we would know if there was going to be a stream?

[blissful hamlet]

[gentle oriole]

may i know what aux gear is this and how can i get it? ty

[atomic abyss]

It's event limited
Iirc it's from Musashi's event?

[opal stream]

vang

[atomic abyss]

Ah

[gentle oriole]

ahh vanguard event ok..

miss that one.. lol. but yea thanks for identifying it : )

[steep merlin]

Wich skill should I level for Allen?

[whole crypt]

all of them

[steep merlin]

Should I give priority to one in particular?

[viscid swift]

Doesn't really matter

[keen sable]

SL7 on S1 but she's not meta

[steep merlin]

ty

ik but she's nice for me as she is the only good one I have beside portland and helena

[viscid swift]

Your starter....

Who you need to retro for the rookie mission's

[atomic abyss]

^

And she's going to steal the gold bulins

[half plover]

does anyone know why it happens that some ships in excercise are just a pink something and it lets the game completely bug

forcing me to restart?

[worldly pewter]

screenshot ?

might be artifacting

[forest palm]

dsync? this game is literally held together by twine, and some stick glue, so most problems are solved by restarting the game

[half plover]

I already had to close it

it is just sometimes when I enter a pvp battle one ship doesnt have a skin

it just looks like this 🟥 just pink

[forest palm]

throw it to #bug-reports

[worldly pewter]

i play on 300+ ping and didn't encounter many desync issues for 5 months now
mostly just ships disappearing from the dock

[worldly pewter]

yeah just rendering issues

[thorn shoal]

are the muse ships worth raising?

referring to both new and old ones

[eternal moth]

Not particularly

[round hare]

is it a big problem that my sub is mvp 💀

[atomic abyss]

my guess would be that 556's barrage nuked everything

[round hare]

ohhh

wait i forgot that existed

[atomic abyss]

battle likely ended sub 15s, maybe sub 20s

so backline had no chance to launch

[round hare]

i guess so

[compact pelican]

hello, i just want to make sure; the good oxytorp is the rainbow one right? thats the one i should be getting?
also, i already have a purple one i got from like months ago should i get rid of it or just keep it?

[atomic abyss]

as in the auxiliary item? no you don't want to use it

1. Not worth the core
2. Not even that impactful

[compact pelican]

yeah the aux oxytorp

oh word, alright

[marble arrow]

how do i obtain core data?

[atomic abyss]

you get core data from doing campaign hard mode maps

you get more core data for completing a more difficult map

[marble arrow]

thanks!

[compact pelican]

wait why not? i was gonna give it to ibuki since shes like mega torpedo focused and buffs torp crit rate, figured the extra trp would be worth it

[viscid swift]

Simple, Dead vanguards don't do damage

[atomic abyss]

putting aside the fact that ibuki isn't even good anymore

the fact is that usually, frontlines have more issue surviving

and that most DPS comes from the backline

the ONLY ships that can use an oxy torp well are submarines, and even they have better aux choices usually
...ones that don't cost as much core for larger benefit

[sweet delta]

Rainbow oxytorps are endgame minmaxing gear, and I don't think you're doing endgame minmaxing

[eager mulch]

W15 oxytorp gaming

[sharp token]

i have a question about subs, what sub are good here?

[sweet delta]

Didn't you ask yesterday

[sharp token]

he just said 2 gold and 1 wolf idk wth is that

[sweet delta]

96 37 556

[blazing shale]

do crates give ur prints?

[cobalt rapids]

Nope

Arbi, ports, cat nodes, abysalls

[worldly lion]

If I leave the arbiter map to change my fleet, will her HP reset to full?

[forest palm]

regular, no/hard, yes

[worldly lion]

Thank you

[zenith locust]

Should I retrofit yuudachi?

[atomic abyss]

if you already got the item, sure
but otherwise, prob best to save the stuff for rainbow burins

[thick pond]

what do I get when scrapping UR?

[eternal moth]

30 medals and some amount of specialized cores IIRC

[thick pond]

And I currently have max points, enough to get either Shinano or NJ, but I already maxed both, already got a LOT of specialized cores, enough to MLB an UR ships. What to do?

[eternal moth]

Put one in a different skin? IDK

That's what I did anyways

[thick pond]

If I had one, and to me, one is already enough.

[atomic abyss]

you could just, save the pity

well if you got every single UR MLB, then yeah it really is useless

[thick pond]

fair enough, that it just reminded me that it won't stack, and I'll just click "Notified"

[atomic abyss]

but if you don't well, could be useful eventually

[thick pond]

And if I had enough gems to buy an L2D skin, it'll just end up to either Voroshilov or San Jacinto.

[dense kettle]

Shinano worth exhanging?

[atomic abyss]

all gacha URs are great ships, but honestly, picking between NJ and Shinano depends on your current dock

[sweet delta]

Exchange is free

[dense kettle]

I know. I already reached the 400 pulls.

[dense kettle]

I already had NJ, was debating whether getting a second copy or getting shinano.

[atomic abyss]

is your NJ max limit broken yet?

[dense kettle]

nuh uh, but my bisko zwei is

[atomic abyss]

...i suppose MLB-ing NJ would be better here

not that shinano isn't worth it, but a non mlb UR is just as bad as any other non mlb ship

[dense kettle]

I don't use nj tho. Might think about it when i start a second fleet

which is basically why i ask in the first place

[viscid swift]

Well what other URs do you have and which ones are maxed

[dense kettle]

Bisko Zwei, NJ, FDG and Sovetsky

Bisko 2 and FDG are mlb

[viscid swift]

Go for Shinano then

NJ just gets benched either way

[dense kettle]

aigh

[whole jolt]

I was looking at who to research in shipyard on alot of guides but I dont really get it. They be talking about FdG alot but they do not tell me who to pick from PR1. I made my choice along ago to research St. Louis it was when I was judging ships just by looks but now as I got back into the game I dont really care about that anymore and i want to maximize everything... So who should I pick? St. Louis is almost developed but I dont know if she is even useful...

[atomic abyss]

all of the PR1 ships are basically meh in the current meta of the game

so basically, pick whoever you want to
roon is usually recommended since she provides ironblood tech, which you will need to use to unlock fdg and agir

[whole jolt]

So do you think I should trash developing St. Louis and focus on Roon instead to be closer to unlocking FdG?

[cobalt rapids]

Roon contributes to fdg tech

[atomic abyss]

otherwise, saint louis for brest much later on

[whole jolt]

Ah okay

[cobalt rapids]

Sanrui is basicly finished aswell so u can do her aswell w.e

[whole jolt]

Sanrui? You mean St. Louis?

Or who? Cause I dont see her here

[atomic abyss]

her name is pronounced san ru-is in japanese

[cobalt rapids]

Ye Saint louis is often nicked Sanrui

[atomic abyss]

i mean saint is pronounced san (rhyming with on) in french to be exact

[whole jolt]

Aha! Okay good to know! So ill finish St. Louis and move to Roon afterwards.

What SR ship can I get from the SP5 in the event?

[atomic abyss]

eugen muse

[whole jolt]

Aha... So its the one in the shop.

[cobalt rapids]

Drop/shop ships are the same

[lost folio]

can I not put shinano chan in the dorm? I can't find her when i'm looking for her

[vale spindle]

you cannot until you complete the event and claim her permanently

because npc ships have specific restrictions due to being npc ships

[lost folio]

oh ok that makes sense, thanks!!

[sudden bane]

hi, sorry but can someone dm me to help me please I have too many questions 😭

[cobalt rapids]

Just ask here its the purpose of the channel

[keen sable]

you can create a thread too

[sudden bane]

i have a lot of question but ok

[cobalt rapids]

Shoot

[sudden bane]

just wait a second

ok so

i really want every iron blood character but idk how can i get the tech point

[cobalt rapids]

For shipyard?

[sudden bane]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

[sudden bane]

what is this ?

[cobalt rapids]

Guide how to get enough kms tech points for every shipyard kms chara with minimal investment

[sudden bane]

ok thx

[cobalt rapids]

It covers other factions aswell

[sudden bane]

just , that safe ??

[cobalt rapids]

Yes, samheart564.github is safe

[sudden bane]

ok thx

if I understood correctly the quickest way to get it is to break max limit ?

[cobalt rapids]

Yes

But for SR is costly

[sudden bane]

ok thank you because I didn't understand why I had 110💀

and i have another question 😭

i don't understand everything of META do you have another guide pls ?

[cobalt rapids]

What part of META

[keen sable]

summary: exterminate all funny symbols in ops

[cobalt rapids]

The battle (showdown) or the ships

[sudden bane]

everything

i start the game the last month

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren In particular you might want to read the 2.4 subpage on META Showdown

[sudden bane]

I'll look at that thx

[eternal basalt]

Or just https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/META

[sudden bane]

thx it helped me

[keen sable]

you can't do META Showdown without OPS so you do need to read OPS

[sudden bane]

i don't have the level to do OPS but i'll read it when i have the right level

and do you think i use my second shinano to break the limit of my first ?

[soft raft]

Yes
There is zero pratical justification to raise dupes in general

[sudden bane]

ok thx

[whole jolt]

What should I buy? I guess more copies of eugen so I can max her out?

[forest palm]

check the pinned google doc it has a shop prio in it

[whole jolt]

Wtf why did it send twice

[forest palm]

Disc being a derp

[whole jolt]

Okay thank you

[whole jolt]

Wait could you maybe please link it here? For some reason I see nothing in the pinned.

[forest palm]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR1vLKixr7sq3hK0TytFsg2qzWX0COFPQuT6-Ae5VAo_HJu0wPblw4u1rdcNh6RSL9We_HH699i7aGD/pubhtml

[whole jolt]

Vielen dank!

[forest palm]

kein problem

[whole jolt]

And here buy the bulin right?

[forest palm]

the best value there is in fact the Bulin, but don't buy it immediately, just wait till you need it to MLB a UR

[whole jolt]

I want to limit break my Bismarck Zwei for the first time

[eager mulch]

all 4 or none at all

[forest palm]

if you have 4, or need the 1 go for it, but otherwise it'll take up inventory space

[whole jolt]

Oh... But I need to somehow farm 4 bulins

And that is by buying them In this shop no?

[forest palm]

shop, among other ways

[molten plover]

Hello sorry to bother, is there a guide or something for the meowficers? I have a ton and don't know what I should be keeping or scrapping

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource

I reccomend giving that a read

[whole jolt]

So I should wait for 16000 specialized cores and then buy all 4

[whole jolt]

Okay thanks

[viscid swift]

#bot-spam /cats

[molten plover]

Ah thank you

[viscid swift]

Mainly Riceist's guide at the very bottom

[whole jolt]

Is there a guide on augments?

[worldly pewter]

why do u need a guide for them ?

just craft the thing

[vale spindle]

if a ship has a gold augment use it
if a ship has a purple augment pick the slash one or the sub crit rate one or it doesn't matter

[worldly pewter]

on a side note i heard that starting from blue to yellow costs less augment mats than from purple to yellow

[vale spindle]

starting from blue saves the step of going from nothing -> blue

[inland shoal]

Neither is possible

[vale spindle]

which is the only savings
nothing -> purple and nothing -> blue -> purple is the same cost

[worldly pewter]

oh really

i got scammed then

[vale spindle]

is it a scam if the cost is same

[worldly pewter]

not about the cost
it is about the misinformation that i got fed

[undone plover]

To be fair starting from blue does save you 2 augment cores which are the rarest augment mats. But not if u misunderstand that as meaning craft the blue yourself

[wooden forum]

Is he a good character? I just left 😀

[viscid swift]

No

[wooden forum]

[worldly pewter]

that is what i was thinking about
starting from blue

[undone plover]

should save u 2 cores. if u already have the blue

but u are also limited to the blues u have

and u cant craft gold this way anyway so it is only for purple

[soft raft]

Nope
her gimmick is good for OpSi CV Fleets on paper (Slow/Time freeze utility) but 1) She's shit at it, 2) There's AvP right there who can do it better, and 3) Ark Royal works more consistently if you dont have AvP yet

[autumn osprey]

What's this gear and is it good?

[steady beacon]

Prototype Quadruple 152mm main gun, aka the Plymouth gun
Best CL gun in the game

[keen sable]

quad 152 from research series 5/protocore. yes it's good

[midnight bluff]

After getting FS5 for all the possible PR4 ships, do I just set the research focus to PR5 next or is there another one I should choose?

[viscid swift]

Yes do PR5

If you have have 2 Tenrais

[midnight bluff]

By that you are referring to prototype tenrai? If so I have only 1 but cant I buy the blueprints from protocore shop?

[viscid swift]

I mean 2 tenrais total, one from research and the other from the prototype shop

You want the one from research before moving onto pr5

[midnight bluff]

I thought the research tenrai is the same as the prototype shop you can buy from as well

[autumn osprey]

So this gear is obtained by doing research, pr5 to get blueprint to craft?

[warm flax]

Blueprints r the same so get 100 prints in total

[viscid swift]

They are, but you want 2 and you can only get 50 blueprints from the prototype shop

[autumn osprey]

Craft in gear lab?

[viscid swift]

Tenrai nor Plymouth gun are in the gear lab

[midnight bluff]

Ok thx for clarifying. I have one tenrai already I'll just buy the 50 from protocore shop and switch focus to PR5. Thx again

[wet prairie]

Anything after maint this week or dead week

[autumn osprey]

HMS, CL gun?(Quad 152)

[steady beacon]

Supposed to be dead week, based on previous patch notes, at least

[viscid swift]

That's the Plymouth gun

[autumn osprey]

Mhm, craft it at gear lab, hms, CL? (Like where this gear located in gear lab?) (need to go so no reply sry)

[viscid swift]

...

[soft raft]

man the EN is real
Plymouth gun = Quad 152

And currently Plymouth gun and tenrai are not in gear lab

[forest palm]

this is why gun nicknames are annoyingly confusing

[autumn osprey]

okay now I got it, I didn't notice it's nor, I thought it's or

[viscid swift]

just be a student of naval history and play WoWs, simple fix

[warm flax]

What do you aim when using CV calc