gameplay-help

[steady beacon]

Idt it actually is, since there isn't a single PR1 research there, just that nothing is selected

[fresh tangle]

Bought the commander pack didn’t I. Just catching up with all that

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[worldly pewter]

also u it is better to not get flapjack as a first electronics gear

[fresh tangle]

Ok pr4 selected

[soft raft]

tho you might want to give this a read as well
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[steady beacon]

Even if you bought the commander pack, don't waste time sitting in PR1

[worldly pewter]

this is what u want to get in this case when u are researching
but i don't know if it is worth the coins early on

[soft raft]

Honestly research shouldnt really be a priority for you until you get to at least W9

[worldly pewter]

the coin sink is just painful

[fresh tangle]

Yeah coins are spent very quickly for me atm

[worldly pewter]

TBH when i started i was doing the ones that didn't require coins

[soft raft]

Just ignore research for now and push campaign to W9
Read the newbie guide I linked as well because you most likely havent really done much if you bought the lvl 70 commander pack

[wind hazel]

i wouldn't suggest ignore

just try to have something going, it's better than doing nothing

[void turret]

so only way of getting good coins is getting to W-9?

[plain saffron]

that's the only farmable way

[fresh tangle]

Need one of each ship for beginner rewards anyway to get that juicy enterprise

[soft raft]

no you dont

You need one from each season for the missions After you finish the missions to get the Enterpise/Hood/Illustrious/San Diego selector

[plain saffron]

the research one is separate from rookie missions

2 different missions lines

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Beginner_Rewards#Common

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Beginner_Rewards#Development_(PR)

[fresh tangle]

I do want enterprise pretty quick

[soft raft]

if you have 80 medals to spare and CVs are in rotation in your medal shop, you could get her from there instead

Then use the beginner missions reward on Hood

[fresh tangle]

Ah only have 39

[sinful elk]

The basic research is good or nah

[soft raft]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[sinful elk]

[soft raft]

God why did you listen to him....

[sinful elk]

Someone told me to do either the rigging or basic research since i am starving on coins and cubes

[plain saffron]

it's good enough if you're new, better than nothing. after that though

[whole crypt]

if you're stuck on coins picking bad researches is fine

early game isn't worth overspending on research than putting those coins to regular ships first

[whole crypt]

I think the bigger problem you have is not picking basic researches, it's why you didn't set focus

[ivory crown]

is there any use for these other than to use them?

[sinful elk]

I set focus on anchorage though?

[whole crypt]

just use them, they don't carry over

[ivory crown]

carry over to?

[whole crypt]

that's catchup, you didn't pick a series to focus on

[whole crypt]

tuning samples are use or lose each month, just use them and get the adapt scores

[ivory crown]

do these only exist to be turned into tuning samples?

also does the adaptive tuning stats carry over each month or do they reset as well

[plain saffron]

click details

[sinful elk]

This?

[whole crypt]

they turn into vouchers end of each month, besides also being used to activate a number of siren devices and chests (not recommended)

[plain saffron]

reset

[ivory crown]

kk

[whole crypt]

ah you should be focued on 4 then, why do you have a PR1 research queued

[plain saffron]

before changed prob

actually no, why 1 have pick up

[whole crypt]

he probably just changed it

but yeh, early on when you're really short on coins it's okay to just pick basic to not idle research

[sinful elk]

Idk i just pick anything that doesnt cost anything

[prisma veldt]

I need help

[whole crypt]

go ahead and ask

[prisma veldt]

I logged back into my account but some characters are gone

[plain saffron]

are you sure you're in correct server

[prisma veldt]

Yeah

[undone plover]

What they mean is if u have focus on 4, you shouldn’t have the option to pick 1 2 and 3 since they shouldnt show up

[worldly pewter]

it is the best that u can do now but ur focus is a little bit not focused

[whole crypt]

he probably just changed the focus

[sinful elk]

I changed it like hours ago after picking those

[whole crypt]

what ships are you missing, did you try restarting game and messing with dock filters

[plain saffron]

are you really really sure your unit are missing, anyway we can't really help. contact customer support if you really2 sure

[undone plover]

U might have retired them by accident
Or maybe u have a filter on in dock?

[whole crypt]

ships don't just go missing, if you are really missing ships that you're sure you had then check with support

[elfin hollow]

Hi what is this highest rarity and how can I get them?

[plain saffron]

UR is highest and there's only 4 of new UR(banner) per year

[prisma veldt]

The main one I know for a absolute fact as Musashi

[whole crypt]

UR and DRs, rainbow rarity, either gacha or research system, nothing you should be really concerned about starting the game

[plain saffron]

there's 2 of them in permanent pool but not recommended to pull them, instead let the spark accumulate naturally

[whole crypt]

when was the last time you saw that you had the ship

[undone plover]

There is also laffeyII and retrofit URs

[worldly pewter]

events and research

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter
rainbow is highest rarity
new players don't need to give two shits about them

[sinful elk]

Chat how do we clear this, do it require big nukings

[plain saffron]

manual

[worldly pewter]

it requires ignoring

[elfin hollow]

Is there a current banner with UR or DR?

[whole crypt]

manual gaming or just pile on the rainbows

[sinful elk]

Can't agree more

[plain saffron]

no but one is most likely this mid/end month

[eager mulch]

500 cogs is not an ignore

[whole crypt]

next new UR is likely going to be late this month with anniversary, but if you're asking whether to start the game with one by rerolling the answer is no

[undone plover]

DR are perma in shipyard. For example Friedrich der grose. They are expensive and need a lot of blueprints before u can use them.

Next UR banner should be in ~3 weeks

[eager mulch]

URs won’t be useable for new players anyways

[whole crypt]

forgot it's May already

[forest palm]

always will say make EX more than 500 cogs, and I'll do it

[whole crypt]

but I must start with newest shiny ship even if I don't know how to use it

[eager mulch]

rainbow brainrot

[summer timber]

Hello, can the topic about fleet composition be talked here regarding to monthly challenge?

[late flame]

#media-content should have some EX clears iirc

[plain saffron]

yes

[whole crypt]

yes, but there's not much special about this month's CM

[eager mulch]

EX was autoable this time

[soft raft]

it's gameplay related so yeas

[plain saffron]

and not pvp

[whole crypt]

well EX nowadays autoable if they keep the challenge mode mechanics

you just need to pile meta on it

[eager mulch]

Just throw in 6 rainbows and get your 500 cogs

[summer timber]

I have no plymouth nor any HMS ships...

[late flame]

instructions unclear brought Meta ships and flunked

[whole crypt]

6 decent rainbows*

[plain saffron]

warspite- dammit

[midnight ocean]

what should i buy here ?

[undone plover]

Here is a few examples of fleets for CM from stigma

#gameplay-help message

[whole crypt]

why would you need HMS ships...

[eager mulch]

This CM is probably the simplest it’s just a damage check

[whole crypt]

actually this CM if you don't have any fancy fleets take a good set of carriers and try coping by manual stocking airstrikes + Helena

[plain saffron]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#medal

[forest palm]

so what you're saying is...just ungabunga

[whole crypt]

actually this CM if you don't have any fancy fleets take a good set of carriers and try coping by manual stocking airstrikes + Helena

[plain saffron]

if simplest why my usual fleet doesn't work

[eager mulch]

most stuff in AL is unga bunga but this cm is unga bunga in its purest form

[plain saffron]

it works for last 2 CM but this one it doesn't

[summer timber]

Because many said plymouth is a must for anyone to have, and plymouth has the best fire rate of all ships, as I have heard...

[whole crypt]

well I might try to bulin this CM, haven't done it since last Oct

[plain saffron]

yes but you doesn't need it you just started

[whole crypt]

no idea who this "many" is, Plymouth is good but that's got nothing to do with this CM specifically

[plain saffron]

wait why i assume you just started

[eager mulch]

because you’re nagami

[plain saffron]

anyway yeah top ships, but not need

[eager mulch]

you don’t need any one specific ship in the game to do everything

[undone plover]

More than ships u probably need good gear

[whole crypt]

honestly I have a feeling you can cope this CM with Enterprise/something/Ark Royal by manual launching

[summer timber]

Well, not recently started since I have fully upgraded Hakuryuu, but I want good fleet to clear extreme level for this CM...

[plain saffron]

make a thread and post dock

[whole crypt]

if you have Hakuryuu then even better

[late flame]

need 2 more levels on shinano before i can auto this cm

[eager mulch]

perseus 3 airstrike capacity

[whole crypt]

too long to reload, obviously

[undone plover]

Hakuryuu AvP nano tank helena kazagumo worked for me

[plain saffron]

i guess BB is shit without stop this CM

and zwei is not enough suck

[whole crypt]

tell Bismarck to suck harder

[forest palm]

art imitates real life

[whole crypt]

but yeh at worst you can cope with manual launching

since you can lose less damage to shield by doubling up airstrikes

[summer timber]

Which fleet should I use against this extreme level CM?

[cobalt rapids]

nano haku avp kron kazagumo helena

if no gumo then unzen

[summer timber]

I have Kazagumo, but not leveled up yet... I can do it now...

[plain saffron]

the skills is important one

[undone plover]

And use bf109 rocket fighters

[cobalt rapids]

im not a fan of boosting non aff grinded ships

[plain saffron]

how many days it takes with quick skip for 1 skill?

[cobalt rapids]

so just use unzen

[whole crypt]

I'm not even going to ask why are there 3 Musashis

[cobalt rapids]

3 with rainbow books, 1 sincewe have rapid training rn

[plain saffron]

maybe the other guy musashi just now is stolen this him

[summer timber]

I apologise but require to reply in the thread, thank you.

[midnight ocean]

how to get eagle union teach points guys ?

[whole crypt]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[midnight ocean]

how do i know which ship gives eagle union teach points ?

[whole crypt]

ships that are eagle union

there's a link to the wiki right there

[plain saffron]

eagle union is the USS faction, ship of that faction gives points for that faction

[midnight ocean]

i also can use sort feature to check right ?

uhh how to get more gold ? i need a lot of gold to limit break units

[whole crypt]

don't worry too much about it

getting into research isn't something you can really rush, just take your time, coins will be easier later in the game

[next iron]

farm chapter 13 is the best way

[stable badger]

usually farming event's is best. giving 2-4k per run but yes, ch13 is the thing to do when no event runs...or it's a bad one like this one now for farming

[late flame]

event farming gold is usually poorer as compared to w12 / w13

[soft raft]

*Regular events are about as good as W9-10
SP events like this one rn are prob a bit worse

And outside of events, you'd do W12 because it's easy enough that you can lvl up ships at the same time

[late flame]

w13 gives more coin returns but also require AA carry
w12 is faster and does have more leeway for not so optimal fleets (though some cv is required)

[next iron]

normal D3 only give 1k gold per run

that is half of 12-4

[undone plover]

What matters is gold/oil not necessarily gold/clear

[whole crypt]

event is shit, it just feels good if you haven't have access to later stages

[late flame]

considering he doesnt have anchorage i'm doubtful he has reached w12, but thats only my guess

[whole crypt]

which is why I said don't worry about LBing and research

[stable badger]

me using the 3% dmg mitigation to run ch15 be like

[plain saffron]

do we tell him

[whole crypt]

if you want to post a meme feel free to do it in #al-general or #off-topic

[crimson glacier]

memes? feel free? mods get this criminal

[jaunty vault]

[stable badger]

btw, why isnt the enty policewoman an emoji? even in the nitro ones doesn't seem to exist..

[whole crypt]

suggestions and feedback is that way

[stable badger]

isn't the feedback for in-game stuff?

[cobalt rapids]

#1020044605053476994 https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1020048500228116490

[whole crypt]

yeh there's really no helping with being out of cone with torp team on rodney :v

[plain saffron]

what's the name of new aux in EN

[whole crypt]

you can already lose 2 bars worth of torps if the ships don't move down at the start

[stable badger]

the Cyanidin support Towel, Alizarin support Towel or Harmony µ Ticket?

[plain saffron]

thanks

towel is gold right?

[stable badger]

yes, all 3 can get upgraded to +13.

[plain saffron]

thanks

is there any JP exclusives gear?

[jaunty vault]

for this event?

[plain saffron]

any

[jaunty vault]

[whole crypt]

was there ever any

[jaunty vault]

idk

[stable badger]

wiki is your friend in this situation

[south sequoia]

Well

That person works on the wiki

[plain saffron]

does bilibili collab have any

wait is it bili or nico

[whole crypt]

CN is bili

[plain saffron]

is there any JP only collab

[south sequoia]

Utawaremono

[stable badger]

the moment of realization of fucking up

[south sequoia]

Outside merch collabs the only server with a true exclusive collab with obtainable ships is CN with the bili girls

[viscid swift]

wasn't there that one random aux that was added to the core data shop on CN that never made it to JP or EN

yeah this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aichi_AB-3

[eager mulch]

added to the core data shop on CN > never made it to CN or EN makes sense

[plain saffron]

thanks

[whole crypt]

CN had utaware as well IIRC

[viscid swift]

yep

[whole crypt]

not sure if CN got nico, but JP didn't get bili collab

[jaunty vault]

EN didn't exist back then so i just assumed it doesn't count

[plain saffron]

i just need the equips for stuff

[whole crypt]

EN existed when utaware came, but they ran neptunia instead in that stretch

neptunia is actually the older collab, but I guess EN went with it because licensing issues with utaware

[plain saffron]

anyway thanks everyone i'll now go scream at my laptop why is it not working

[eager mulch]

bcuz you watch too much vtuber

[plain saffron]

[stable badger]

is there a way to do 15-4 to clear all enemies? already got the map to Safe status but, out of ammo it's so painful...

[viscid swift]

yes, build the fleet better to put it bluntly

[eager mulch]

how many UR reruns between now and YT2 rerun

[cobalt rapids]

2

[jaunty vault]

vg and mushy?

[forest palm]

more than likely won't see Mu this year

[sweet delta]

take 35% less damage and deal 23% more in safe 15-4 compared to lethal

[jaunty vault]

the numbers, what do they mean

[eager mulch]

big number good

[frosty dust]

Is noshiro muse good

[viscid swift]

not really

[stable badger]

thing is, the mob fleet just doesn't kill fast enough when out of ammo and infinite planes crash kill my backline. thinking of putting a healer on the boss fleet as well to use that one as well...

[sweet delta]

But what is your fleet

[frosty dust]

Is Bismarck good

[eager mulch]

Rainbow Bismarck good, gold bismarck bad

[viscid swift]

what gear are they using, where's Guam, where's Shimanto

[sweet delta]

huh

[eager mulch]

huh

[sweet delta]

I don't see how that can be lacking damage though

on safe

[stable badger]

guam is in boss fleet. Shimanto isn't trained....at least the french loli is not useful

[sweet delta]

What do you die to

[stable badger]

boss fleet

[frosty dust]

What’s the best way to farm gold coins early game

[sweet delta]

SP5 of the event

[stable badger]

lv2 carrier mobs. even lv3 escorts aren't that hot. take over a minute to kill even with Submarine support

[whole crypt]

if your problem is noammo shove Gloucester in

[sweet delta]

You probably need help with gear

Or do musashi Aquila unicorn Guam Jeanne laffii for all but the second boss

Saving ammo for the last two mobs and last boss

[whole crypt]

BisZwei + cert is a thing though

[worldly pewter]

guys when do u think they devs will increase the lvl cap again to 130 ?

[viscid swift]

who knows

[worldly pewter]

i mean based on ur past experience

[viscid swift]

not anytime soon though, they have stated in the past they raising the level cap for obvious reasons

[viscid swift]

that is bloody awful

[sweet delta]

Is that a cheese strat

[sweet delta]

Consult in #bot-spam /w15
And try the third fleet (with Guam Jeanne laffii as I said)

[plain saffron]

towel are 2nd toolbox replacement?

[sweet delta]

Upgrade

[undone plover]

what was the vanguard tech prio?

[sweet delta]

what are you cooking

FP and non-dd EVA

[plain saffron]

nothing trust me

[sweet delta]

Then Hit and rld and trp

[undone plover]

in general is CL fp most valuable cuz plymouth?

[sweet delta]

When was the last time you used Plymouth seriously

[frank pulsar]

does poi or shimanto have better dmg and bulk?

[sweet delta]

I would recommendn't doing all the CL FP first in triple CL farming fleets, and instead use a mix

[keen sable]

~~i use plymouth on usp because lazy ~~

[marble arrow]

do we have a date for the next UR banner?

[sweet delta]

Consult https://azurlane.nagami.moe/ehp for bulk

[frank pulsar]

what about dmg then

[keen sable]

may...

[sweet delta]

Consult /cnwiki ship output

[frank pulsar]

huh

[marble arrow]

could be on the last week?

[sweet delta]

Which says shimanto does 10% more

[worldly pewter]

seeing the event history it is in the last week unless something else happens this time around

[frank pulsar]

do you have a link for future reference?

[marble arrow]

THanks!

[frank pulsar]

im digging rn and i cant read the runes

[sweet delta]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/舰船输出生存参考 use Google lens or something to translate images

[frank pulsar]

ty

the text is tiny i cant even translate it with google lens
how do you do it

[cobalt rapids]

Open image in new tab >zoom in > snip > translate

[frank pulsar]

im on mobile rn
in that case ill give that a go tmr, ty

[stable badger]

i said fuck it. and manual-ed my way to victory

[worldly lion]

Is there an option to bypass this? If im doing strategic search

[eternal moth]

What do you mean bypass? You can just ignore them, or click the bottom one to not do anything

[keen sable]

don't stop, don't use

[vale spindle]

there's a setting in strategic search to ignore siren contructs

however if strategic search ai randomly steps on one by accident theres nothing you can do

[worldly lion]

Thanks @vale spindle !

[stable badger]

didnt auto exchange items pass through it?

[rain vine]

itll just choose the third option and leave

[sharp token]

should i invest for Huan Chang for my mob fleet?

[atomic abyss]

no

[sharp token]

what obtainable ship you suggest for a mob fleet?

[jaunty vault]

fdg

Nelson, any of the PR4 and above BBs, gascogne and odin, hood
in no particular order

[eager mulch]

is cooper good?

[eternal basalt]

Likely 23. Anniversaary is 25 may, based on that

[jaunty vault]

Cooper is a flexible destroyer with good gunnery, moderate torpedoes, and a strong All-out Assault. Her timed barrage only does a tiny amount of ASW damage and provides minor anti-sub effects, but the FP buff is useful.

[whole crypt]

that's a lot of words for tech fodder

for OS promoted spawns any idea why the beacon doesn't summon the third mob sometimes

[sharp token]

do hakuryu has debuff or slow?

[atomic abyss]

nope

[steady beacon]

Eh, she does have a debuff tbf
Tied to her lightning strikes
+8% DMG taken for 7 secs

[dusky narwhal]

Are any of the Muse ships worth leveling for W15?

[atomic abyss]

not even remotely

[dusky narwhal]

Are they useful for anything at all?

[eager mulch]

not even remotely

[atomic abyss]

well...

there is a case to be made for noshiro muse when it comes to torp memes

[soft raft]

and Illustrious Muse for W15 support fleet if you lack enough options for that but kinda

[sharp token]

yeah i saw a lightning hits the ship and it goes slow in a short of time, maybe hallucinations need to sleep

[atomic abyss]

but well torp memes in 2024 are "that's rough buddy" moment

[eternal basalt]

They are useful for if you have 2 skins of said ship

[steady beacon]

Doesn't slow
It's just a damage taken debuff

[dusky narwhal]

I have 2 noshi skins but like I just wanted a better noshi NGL

[atomic abyss]

i mean it's not like the original was bad...

though it's a more of "why use her when you have X"

[dusky narwhal]

I know she isn't bad I just wanted a better version instead of coping for UR retro 😭 I just like her a lot but I still use her for mob Opsi because it's not that hard

[atomic abyss]

out of all the muse ships
the only ones better than the original are akagi and roon

[sweet delta]

then congratulations, noshiro muse is a lot better than noshiro for pretty much everything besides tanking

[atomic abyss]

i'd still say the verdict isn't out yet

[steady beacon]

In spite of all we have tried for RodM so far, the inescapable fact is... if you really want to use torp memes in a truly serious way, you have to manual
If not, she simply is not going to live up to her maximum potential

[eternal basalt]

RodM was 2 years ago though

[atomic abyss]

i'm sorry what

[steady beacon]

And I will at least add... as someone who used OG Noshi both for Ari and QE META
Noshiro Muse is a vast improvement for torp meme purposes

[whole crypt]

in practice Roon is still better than Room because tech and doesn't cost bulins

[soft raft]

Are you sure you're not thinking of Repulse or Renown?

[atomic abyss]

but she's more expeeeensive

[steady beacon]

... I'm pre sure Hassat's joking 👀

[sullen creek]

Roon costs time

[dusky narwhal]

I used to play manual only for the 2 first years of me playing the game, I don't mind and it's what I used to do when I ran torp meme for almost everything

[whole crypt]

game is a marathon anyway, time is the best resource

[eternal basalt]

She's not an archived raid ?

[sullen creek]

nuh uh

[whole crypt]

Rodney META is literally the current META

[atomic abyss]

rodM certainly isn't archived

hassat what the fuck are you on

rodM is RODNEY meta

[steady beacon]

Oh damn, I genuinely thought you were trying to joke that the start of the season was so long ago that it feels like two years ago

[atomic abyss]

but yes repulse and renown metas are archived

[eternal basalt]

Well, she's maxed and lvl 115, so t does feel that way

[whole crypt]

120

[steady beacon]

So has anyone worked out a RodM strat for RodM?
In any case @dusky narwhal ... I'll just say, she definitely isn't on the rubbish heap if you want to make her work...
I have definitely succeeded in making worse ships work, put it that way...

[dusky narwhal]

Yep I've seen people make worse work so I'm not gonna give up on using at least one form of noshi to clear W15

[eternal basalt]

Making it very difficult for yourself

[whole crypt]

not so difficult if you have guam

[dusky narwhal]

I know but at least I have shimanto and sandy, I'm working on more UR gear to make it easier on me

[stark quiver]

in approx how many years will guam rerun

[whole crypt]

tagging Noshiro to an otherwise stacked fleet is good enough to clear 15 anyway

[eternal basalt]

Start of 2026, IF they keep up 4 reruns per year

[stark quiver]

amazing

[eternal basalt]

If we don't get Musashi this year it' ll be end 2026

[whole crypt]

just wait and see 🔮

[steady beacon]

Ngl, on the assumption that SP events will follow Virtual Tower in being rerun, and assuming the rerun schedule isn't switched around, looking at what happened between Abyssal Refrain and VTBL, I feel like Musashi this year is... pushing it
There are four events in between, not even counting Angel of Iris

[eternal basalt]

But I suspect a rerun about a month after the new UR, so we get Musashi in October/Nov, but people here don't believe it

[steady beacon]

So, you're assuming they're flipping the rerun schedule?

[viscid swift]

for good reason, try fitting Vanguard, Emden, Roma, Brunhilde, and Musashi into this time frame

[eternal basalt]

There was one to be flipped to get normal/UR/normal/UR/

[steady beacon]

OK, so throw Op Convergence out, say... make it Rondo/Pledge/Aquilifer/VTBL
Where would you fit them in

[whole crypt]

just wait and see 🔮

[undone plover]

late June is possible for vanguard. kinda like NJ rerun. both were May UR
and late nov for sushi (like shimakaze rerun)
they have shown they are willing to rerun out of order with impero. -/+ a few weeks on either side

[eternal basalt]

The normal immedatially following UR event, the UR sometime later... as they've done twice already

[viscid swift]

twice, and yet there's been 5 UR reruns thus far

[steady beacon]

OK so you're assuming like Vanguard after CN, Musashi after JP
Hmmm...

[eternal basalt]

2020 was only Shinano, 2021 was 3 UR, only 2022 was with 4.

[whole crypt]

we'll know when we get there

[viscid swift]

the issue is that how to you fit Emden and Roma's reruns in there

on top of the fact the reruns are generally spaced out by at least 2 months and has been that way for years

[eternal basalt]

One of these gets pushed back

[inner delta]

"wait and see"

[viscid swift]

what about Operation Convergence then and Angel of Iris potentially

[eternal basalt]

There was no regular event between Musashi and Yorktown II so it goes there

[whole crypt]

we literally don't know what they'll do with the schedule, just intelligent guesses based on past years
anything I don't feel confident to base on past schedule is just "wait and see", I don't see why we need to feel like we know what will likely happen

[viscid swift]

to plan around events, and to reccomend pulling strats for those who are short on cubes

that's always, at least been for me, trying to work an educated guess on when events drop

[eternal basalt]

Angel of Iris is raid, those haven't rerun. Aside from Crosswave

[steady beacon]

Didn't Essex rerun

[viscid swift]

they did rerun on CN and JP back in the early days

[whole crypt]

there's not much to recommend besides "try not to pull much with cubes outside of new UR"

[viscid swift]

you can't say raid events won't rerun definitively but you can't say they will either because lack of definitive presedence

[whole crypt]

no matter how they throw reruns and other new events at you, short on cube is always just "prioritize next new UR"

those we have a good idea of when

[eternal basalt]

Essex did rerun, but the event changed massively between #1 and #2

[inner delta]

honestly #al-general also love speculating about future event #al-lore also did it, so you will fit really well

[viscid swift]

I mean are you forgetting about NJ rerunning a week after Zwei and UvH a week after Guam

[whole crypt]

that matters how?

[dusky narwhal]

Opinion on W15 team? It's mob and it should be able to get through it if I manual right? And no laffey 2 or Guam because my dumb self wasn't active and didn't know the event was going

[sweet delta]

4 star shimanto = 🚮

[whole crypt]

probably want to come back after you finish Shimanto

[sweet delta]

otherwise pretty much anything decent works on manual if you manual well

[viscid swift]

that is an extremely short period of time in which UR events dropped, had one known there might have been good reason to skip the first to pull on the latter

[dusky narwhal]

I have the prints thing to get her to 5*

[soft raft]

that's still not enough
Come back when she's D30/6 stars

[eternal basalt]

Seems they changed it now with a normal event inbwteen

[whole crypt]

I consider neither reruns worth saving for ahead of the two new URs that ran before them

[viscid swift]

no but would you want to say that for every such scenario that may potentially pop up in future

[whole crypt]

yes

new ships are a longer wait to rerun than rerun to archive and tend to be more immediately useful

[eternal basalt]

We had 2 UR in dec, that's also extra bulin, unprepared

[whole crypt]

bulin is a different issue, and we got more cores now

[sharp grove]

is new jersey worth keeping 2 copies? apparently i already have new jersey lv125, and i got a dupe from that 400 pull thing, should i just retire?

considering my dock space is running out

[viscid swift]

no, no ship is worth keeping dupes of

[sharp grove]

oh ok

[jaunty vault]

do you also have shinano mlb

[sharp grove]

yea ofc, i have every UR shipgirls max lb apparently

[stark quiver]

not worth keeping dutes unless u tryna grinf leaderboard

[jaunty vault]

was just making sure you didnt make bad decisions

[sharp grove]

darn, then maybe i did quite some mistakes, i mean... i do actually keep some dupes, and somewhat leveled them through commissions, is retiring them a good choice

[jaunty vault]

you could keep them if you wanna

[sweet delta]

you could buy more dock space

[sharp grove]

there is also hutton which is....
yea it actually happened pfft

ok got it

[eternal basalt]

You wont get UR bulins back in scrapping, but also saves 2 in MLBing her... unless you want fleet power, then she's perfect

[sharp grove]

oh, then i can just get dupe to max lb and fleettech point still gonna increase?

[viscid swift]

no

dupes don't give tech

[sharp grove]

then what is that "fleettech" u mentioned

[sweet delta]

Ignore him

[viscid swift]

I have absolutely no idea in this context

[sharp grove]

same, i indeed have been playing for a while but i dont really learn about the game so lul, forgive me

[eternal basalt]

Fleet power keeps different levels of limit break, as only one count...

[viscid swift]

that's fleet power not tech

[eternal basalt]

Ah crap, too used to typing fleettech

[sharp grove]

well, maybe in the future when im actually out of dock space and cant afford to get dock space possibly bc of skins then yea imma retire them

for now i guess i will just keep them

one more thing is, is guam a good shipgirl?

[atomic abyss]

very

[soft raft]

all of the gacha URs are very good one way or another

[sharp grove]

ok thanks a lot!
maybe in the future imma ask about fleet and gears set up, i just put random stuffs for the shipgirls according to the tierlist the whole time, so yea i dont have a oneshot fleet or sth like that lul, kinda want to have one

[viscid swift]

for the current showdown? consistent one shot comps don't exist

[sharp grove]

oh ok lol

yea u see how screwed my knowledge about the game is pfft

considering im like... lv 141 or sth now

[rain vine]

you wouldnt know that unless you know the fight mechanics on rodney meta

[eternal basalt]

Everyone just copies CN fleet, not really knowledge

[viscid swift]

I've seen far worse, you're fine and at least you're learning

[sharp grove]

like, i mean i would know about common knowledge about the game, about some specific gears and stuffs, but well yea lets say gears for oneshot fleets, or best fleet for a boss, etc etc, i barely know
like once i check the oneshot video, i see the gear and i was like "bro this gear is useful?"

[fluid brook]

Ye thats what Stigma cooks daily

[sharp grove]

oh yea talk about that, rodney meta is just ridiculous lol, like for some reasons, i did copy like 4 oneshot fleets i found on youtube, but they all just work worse than the fleet i set up my own

maybe its bc of the fleettech difference, i mean yea my collection rate is only 88% or sth? i think it does affect the overall power?

[rain vine]

collection doesnt matter

[viscid swift]

collection and power are rather irrelevant to the strength of your fleets

[eternal basalt]

fleet tech does, try maxxing bb/cv

[viscid swift]

and yes, tech does matter esepcially in a showdown with comps as sensitive timing wise as this one

if you can't patch the tech and oath parameters, the comps will need to be adjusted

[sweet delta]

Maxing faction tech to level 9 and maxing many ships to level 120 is fleet tech that matters whej you try to copy reload-sensitive fleets

[sharp grove]

then what actually affects the thing (lets exclude oath because bruh i never can afford that kind of thing to increase the power)

[viscid swift]

the gear they're using and the enhancement level of said gear, the ships themselves, tech, if applicable cats, etc

[sharp grove]

darn, so basically i cant really get the same power even if i copy their comps?

[viscid swift]

not if you want it to work no

[sharp grove]

yikes lol

[eternal basalt]

Especially good cats

[sweet delta]

copy the cats for Rodney meta showdown fleet

[sharp grove]

oh well, i guess i can just leave it then, and just play normal

[viscid swift]

it's much better to understand why ship and gear choices are being made and apply them to our own set up with what you have to work with

[sharp grove]

cats btw, yea i know it does affect but cant be bother to try to find a good one and raise them, like really to get one to lv 30 would take me months or even a whole year anyway, plus a lot of coins have to be used

[eternal basalt]

Dorm helps with level, not skills... and yeah, no cats in META fights

[undone plover]

should FdG gun be used for opsi mobbing if no 457? or AP gun?

[sharp grove]

i actually do have some decent cats but.... they are both literately for submarine fleet

[viscid swift]

I'd take an Mk6 at that point personally

[sweet delta]

For stronghold I would stick to AP

[undone plover]

cool thanks!

[sharp grove]

just asking btw, is this a good cat

[cobalt rapids]

It takes maybe 4-6 months to lv 30 a cat but u can lvl multiple

[sweet delta]

I'll give it a 3 out of 5

[sharp grove]

yea, its a nice thing, but the starting investment is funny so yea, cant be bothered lol

[sweet delta]

Or 2.5

[cobalt rapids]

What starting investment

[sweet delta]

It's missing wolf, isn't edelweiss, and has lookout

[sharp grove]

yea i know nothing about cats stats then

[sweet delta]

Opening cat boxes costs 10 coins per cat because you have to feed them away

A 2.5/5 is good enough for most players

It's already 10-20% better than not using cats

[eternal basalt]

~~Not using cats is so easy, I forget them in event hard mode these days ~~

[sharp grove]

maybe it just the best thing to not care about this and enjoy the game lol

[sharp grove]

meanwhile me proceed to auto put kidd and drake without thinking:

[sweet delta]

Well they are actually good

[sharp grove]

yea thats why lol

and they are the easiest to find among the cats

[eternal basalt]

Although a bunch of their new skills don't act like they should

[void pike]

Ive been playing for a bit but I feel like my fleets arent as good as they could be for higher end activities, is there someone that could help me with fleet comp?

[cobalt rapids]

Open a thread post dock and for what content

[sharp grove]

oh btw, is raising shipgirls to lv 120 would help increase the power? (they do increase fleettech so maybe they do?)

[void pike]

Fleet Help

[viscid swift]

leveling ships to 120 with good/useful tech will increase the capabilities of your ships yes

[sweet delta]

And dupes don't give fleet tech

[sharp grove]

ok then, thanks a lot

[elfin hollow]

Is there a beginner guide?

[rain vine]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 New Player's Guide by .Snub and Community TL

🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[north forge]

Does anyone buy cats beyond the daily free one? (If yes, at what point do you break even if investing in the Cat Box Discount in the Guild lab?)

Also, does the Specialised Core in the shop count towards the monthly 5k limit?

[soft raft]

Nope

[inland shoal]

Some ppl do
Dunno how long exactly it takes to break even but it's not that hard to calc

[autumn pumice]

I think there were some dead weeks where I had too much coin so I just bought some cats, but that was rare. Its a bit of a coin sink for little reward.

[graceful meteor]

if you have good ones, should try to reroll to perfect it
mlb or awaken to spend coin

that said, I gave up on rerolling the perfect pound

[eager mulch]

90% of gamblers quit before they hit it big

[cobalt rapids]

Before they hit the perfect pound

[opal stream]

I hit the perfect pound

[north forge]

yeah I'm re-rolling, but that's a massive coin sink too. I have a few worth re-rolling, but lacking others, and feel like I might be waiting for a long time to find them otherwise

[forest palm]

that's the nature of cats tbh

[stark quiver]

are these cv cats bad

[forest palm]

I see Sakura, so ya

[forest palm]

both, are "usable" but pretty meh overall

[stark quiver]

idk how cats work tbh and the ./cats is kinda vague

[whole jolt]

Guys what bb should I pick from the requisition shop?

[forest palm]

Hood is the only real pick

[stark quiver]

i cant tell which ones are ass and which arent, btw is there a way to get those 2 cats better?

[whole jolt]

I have her already

Wait you talking to me?😅

[forest palm]

she's the only one worth the medals the rest are for collective, or other purposes

[whole jolt]

Okay

[forest palm]

through a lot of RNG, and working...you could replace the talents, but it'd be better to just roll better ones

[stark quiver]

roll better ones? so that cat even if it has a sakura talent as base cna be rerolled into a good talent? how do i do that, cuz the only option i have is the reset talent

[forest palm]

no, I mean literally roll new ones by opening boxes, you can't reroll initial talents they'll be there forever, you can override them though through leveling up, and having excess talents, but that's very RNG

[stark quiver]

what are the base talents i should be looking for?

sry im rly new to cats

[forest palm]

• Flame's Aggression in general
• Tireless Warrior for Vanguard Cats
• Soulful for BB Cats
• Ace Pilot for CV Cats
• Alpha Wolf for Sub Cats
• Any Talent that would give +FP/AVI, +RLD, and/or +FP/AVI & RLD

[stark quiver]

and thats for command cat right?

[forest palm]

either one

[stark quiver]

ah, ill just focus on cv cats for now and build my way up

[forest palm]

stuff like ASW, AA, HP, and ACC are pretty mediocre, or just not worth it

[stark quiver]

should i reset everyones talents? or is that a horrible idea

[whole jolt]

What to get from the event shop?

[stark quiver]

weird not on pins, well ship, aux and what not

[forest palm]

check pinned datamine it has a priority guide

[forest palm]

would say you're better off resetting a cat with a good base, and just using the mediocre to bad ones you have till you get better ones, and slowly replace as you go, also you can feed the old ones to the new ones, and that gives a lot of xp to the new cat

[stark quiver]

im pretty sure all the bases for my cv cats arent good

its kind of a endgame and long process right?

[forest palm]

only good talent they have are Elite Officier, and Aviation Ace, so usable, but pretty bad

[elfin hollow]

What is a good beginner team?

[forest palm]

realistically I just recommend having two Lv 30 cats of SSR quality for Ops cat nodes though

[forest palm]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

section 10 btw

[stark quiver]

this one here, laffey could be swapped for your starter ship and enterprise could be replaced by sara

[elfin hollow]

This?

[stark quiver]

yea it works, you have shinano chan unlocked right?

[elfin hollow]

Huh?

I started like 5 min ago

[stark quiver]

when u click on her shes not npc

[elfin hollow]

Oh she is npc

[stark quiver]

oh uh, dont use shinano chan then

[elfin hollow]

Long Island work?

[stark quiver]

she would suffice for now sicne ur new

[elfin hollow]

Ok

How do I do this?

Do I have to do the level again?

[stark quiver]

the nodes that u have to kill before a boss are the escorts, they are also called mobs by everyone, so u gotta play until u kill 2 more mobs

[arctic aspen]

Guys I remember getting this 2nd weirdo when I was new, but I dont remember getting ryuujou or seeing her in a shop ever, is there a way I can get her?

[viscid swift]

Ryuujou is in the merit shop pool

[arctic aspen]

oh

[elfin hollow]

Who is the first person I should upgrade?

[stark quiver]

everyone, doesnt really matter what order

[elfin hollow]

Can someone tell me the difference between Command and Staff Cat?

[undone plover]

some cats have skills that work in command slot. some in staff. that is basically it.
u can check the buffs in game or check wiki
also general cat guide https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[night pumice]

if I'm planning on getting hood through the rookie mission thing and enty through medals, can I just pick whatever battleship I want out of the other medal pull or is there another good one besides hood

[soft raft]

Hood's the only medal shop BB with any long term useability

Outside of that, take your pick of Bismarck or Tirpitz to start working on Iron Blood tech points to unlock FdG

[night pumice]

oh okay

[elfin hollow]

do u auto search sp5?

[soft raft]

It's clown college levels of easy so yeah
It's got oil cap as well

[half plover]

is bismarck as good as peter strasser to mlb?

currently trying to level up ships in sp5 for FdG tech points

[elfin hollow]

been clearing the whole map manually

thanks

[soft raft]

She's kinda shit and frankly both of them barely see use in most content but you can go for it if you can
Esp since MLB = tech points

[half plover]

which chapter do I want to reach before leveling up ships to lvl 120 for tech?

I heard 12-1 is way better than any in 9-11, right?

[soft raft]

W12
granted you'd have to get them to lvl 100 first so they dont die too horribly (esp if you dont use a healer)

[half plover]

oh I see

ty

is 12-1 the best or any other in 12?

for leveling up ships/gold

[soft raft]

12-1 if your ships are having a hard time
12-4 otherwise (since it has slightly more gold per run)

[half plover]

alr ty

7k more event points before I can move onto campaign again

[viscid swift]

You don't start leveling ships to 120 for tech until you at least have your 2 main fleets 120ed

[half plover]

I almost have 2 full fleets 120

most are around 118 rn with laffey and unicorn over 120

[whole jolt]

Who should I get except hood? Cause I already have her

[viscid swift]

I have quite a few questions about the state of those fleets then given Enterprise is lvl 80 still

[half plover]

I got bismarck for iron blood fleet tech points only

[viscid swift]

Tirpitz or Bismarck for IB tech

[half plover]

I just bought enty like 3 days ago from the medal shop

and because it is so easy to level up ships in sp5 I currently try to level up some IB ships so I have an easier time to level them in campaign

the main fleet rarely takes any damage

maybe "most" was not that accurate, but at least some are on a good way to 120 hahaha

[viscid swift]

Either way though you wouldn't level ships to 120 just for tech points

[half plover]

yeah just IB for FdG

not other random ships

[viscid swift]

No I mean if you're trying to get tech points for FDG it's more efficient and cheaper to MLB a bunch of ships and forget about 120

[half plover]

is it really enough tho?

I heard it is only main fleet isnt it

[viscid swift]

No

[half plover]

ooh, I could bet anyone said only main fleet mlb count

[silk sphinx]

you get tech points for any (non-muse/child) ships of the correct faction, but you only get pr exp when the ships are of the correct vanguard/main fleet type

[viscid swift]

faction tech points are not tied to main fleets or vanguards specifically all ships from one faction give that faction's tech points

[half plover]

thats why I was considering 120 for like peter strasser or others

[silk sphinx]

basically, you can unlock the missions to get fdg with any non-muse/child IB ships

[half plover]

I just noticed I farmed so many eigen muses I can retire one already lmao

[silk sphinx]

but once the missions are unlocked, then you need to look at if they're main line or vanguard to use them to farm exp

[half plover]

tyy, good to hear

[viscid swift]

the main fleet vanguard distinction comes when you need to grind XP, the missions require you to use main fleets or vanguards from that faction

[half plover]

aaah it was the exp mission, maybe I worded my question wrong

I am still trying to unlock it

[silk sphinx]

once the exp missions are unlocked, pick any three IB ships and they'll work

[viscid swift]

*IB main fleet ships

[half plover]

good to hear

so in my case bismarck, peter and zeppy

[viscid swift]

that works yes

[half plover]

I will mlb them with spare bulins then

[worldly pewter]

in ur case try to do the wa story first before doing anything

[silk sphinx]

also pretty good tech for all three of them

[half plover]

yeah I pushed to the last stage and then the muse event dropped haha

[silk sphinx]

not great ships overall, but worth 120ing in endgame

[viscid swift]

Zeppy doesn't give tech and Strasser might be CV AA

[half plover]

how do you know that zeppy doesnt give tech

[silk sphinx]

oh child zep?

[viscid swift]

no she's CV AVI

[silk sphinx]

strasser is 2 avi

[viscid swift]

the wiki, and the fleet tech page in game

[half plover]

ah

[soft raft]

Children and Muse variants dont give faction tech

[silk sphinx]

they don't give tech period

[soft raft]

Kaga (BB) and the IIs are the only non-META alts that give any tech

[silk sphinx]

i mean, with the II variants...

[elfin hollow]

Well, 2 are different ships from their original counterpart.

[half plover]

so it would be a good idea to only level up ib ships to lvl 70 in sp5 until I got 55k points total, then switch to wa and level the rest in campaign

[viscid swift]

let's not go down that rabbit hole

[worldly pewter]

TBH just spend a little time on the divergent chessboard and mlb both the N ships
then adjust with what u get

[viscid swift]

if you have nothing else to farm then just dump exp packs in them to get them to level 90-100

[half plover]

is leveling at chessboard good?

[worldly pewter]

who cares about leveling

[silk sphinx]

levelling there, not really, but the maps drop IB ships

[elfin hollow]

Have a lot of KMS drops.

[viscid swift]

or wait for them to level up in the dorm

[half plover]

I need lvl 70 to max mlb

ah alr

[silk sphinx]

which isn't that high once you get to the tail end of early game or enter midgame

[worldly pewter]

dorm books

[silk sphinx]

heck, other than the new muse ships I've gotten, basically every ship in my dock is at lv70+ just from commissions

[half plover]

my commission ships were just lvl 19 or so

I dumped exp packs in most of my ships to lvl 30 so I can clean up my dock a bit

[silk sphinx]

behold, the power of a >2.5 years+ account

[viscid swift]

damn, I'm behind

[silk sphinx]

it's okay, beginners have to start somewhere

[worldly pewter]

if u manage ur dorm well u won't be having much trouble cleaning up the dock

[half plover]

the problem is if I dont have the ships that I farm with in my dorm they are always unhappy

[worldly pewter]

there is this technique called rotation also opsi and lastly grass

[silk sphinx]

I had to put my ships in random hard mode slots just to stop autopicking from sending the non-lbd ones on commissions

a wee bit of an annoyance

[viscid swift]

I can imagine

[covert sentinel]

which one should i prioritize making? rainbow dd gun or rainbow aa gun

[viscid swift]

how many wyverns do you have?

[covert sentinel]

3

[silver lintel]

Make 1-2 rainbow dd gun then aa guns

[viscid swift]

honestly you're planning to tackle W15 or something anytime soon I wouldn't, Gear Lab update is due in about a month

[covert sentinel]

ok tysm

[silver lintel]

Mk7 finally?

[viscid swift]

who knows

[novel solstice]

And that is assuming the gear lab update doesn't go the way of the cat update...

[forest palm]

more like the rogue-like mode

[south sequoia]

Not really worth levelling up homura fleet if I don't have u556m right

[sweet delta]

What's a homura fleet

[elfin hollow]

How do I get exp books?

[sweet delta]

Homura fits in any fleet, even fish or wolf

[south sequoia]

I meant her fleet with ldv and u556m

[sweet delta]

You don't get many exp packs, just weekly free pack for now

[elfin hollow]

How can I lvl up my units quickly

[sweet delta]

Do battles

[elfin hollow]

I’m stuck on chapter 2…

[worldly pewter]

what fleet are u using ?

[worldly pewter]

u don't have shinano ?

[elfin hollow]

Who?

I started like 20 min ago

[south sequoia]

Oh wow I assumed you have read the guides. if you are stuck on chapter 2 just keep grinding levels on the highest stage you could do

[worldly pewter]

look closely in ur dock

[south sequoia]

Also invest in exp packs on your pennsylvania and unicorn whenever possible

[elfin hollow]

I have the NPC one but someone said not to use her

[sinful elk]

Sooo which one should i priority first, leveling up Hood, retro Helena or retro javelin

[elfin hollow]

Get Hood aug.

[worldly pewter]

shinano is basically ur carry now

[elfin hollow]

So use her?

[sinful elk]

well i'm trying but the black crystal thingy is hard to get

[worldly pewter]

yeah also upgrade her skills asap

[elfin hollow]

Helena retrofit is the least priority.

[elfin hollow]

But won’t I lose her soon?

[elfin hollow]

Use her enough and she will become permanent.

[worldly pewter]

there is still 5 more days
unlock ch3 then do the event

[viscid swift]

that will be pushing it for someone who just started and with jsut 4 days of the event left

[elfin hollow]

5 days with ch3 is sus.

@elfin hollow If you want to use her, invest in her skill after you unlock her. Otherwise, it will be a waste of your book.

[worldly pewter]

someone started yesterday cleared sp2 in 12 hours
i think it is doable

he said that he got carried by shinano

[elfin hollow]

That's someone, not everyone.

[worldly pewter]

i mean he just did what we said to him and it worked out

[south sequoia]

I doubt everybody can be as committed as he is

[viscid swift]

aye, everyone has different time commitments and that is pushing it to be blunt

[south sequoia]

It is possible yes but not everyone will pour the same amount of the time

[elfin hollow]

Yeah, we have grass to touch.

[undone plover]

. sp2 gives 12x trust (x2 w nano-chan) in fleet. 1000/24 is 41 runs...... in 4 days. I wouldnt call that pushing it

[viscid swift]

well no but bearing in mind they still need to level up the fleet to be able to tackle SP2 in the first place

and there will be limits imposed by oil and morale

[elfin hollow]

How do I prevent her from disappearing?

[soft raft]

grind enough points to obtain her before she goes away

That's literally it

[elfin hollow]

How much?

[undone plover]

1000 trust points

event gives more. do event sp1 till u can do sp2 and so on

[soft raft]

And on a side note, if you invested resources into her and you dont manage to get her, no refunds

[elfin hollow]

By the way, is lil nano a candidate for w15 aa support? Just curious.

[undone plover]

we get 7k oil in 2 days. so u should have enough. if u have no time to play then probably take it easy and forget nan-chan

[south sequoia]

Doubt it, she only has 2 fighters

2 120% fighters

[soft raft]

and also the fact that she's elite rarity

[elfin hollow]

Ok, it seems I expected too much. Ty for information.

[torn raft]

is agir usable before dev level 30?

[soft raft]

you could Technically argue she's somewhat useable at D25 since she has all of her bulk by then but it's still good to follow the general advice and get her to D30 first

[worldly pewter]

i used her dev 23 against last harbiter and somehow it worked

[torn raft]

[worldly pewter]

but it was all pilica's cooking i just did what he said

[craggy lance]

ive gotten noshiro u 8 times and formi u 0 times, am i just the unluckiest man to exist right now or is something borked

[soft raft]

RNG do be like that

[craggy lance]

just making sure there isnt some bug i didnt hear about in the lore hole

if im unlucky then im unlucky and that's that, thanks anyway

[worldly pewter]

i got eugen 1 time and nothing else

[silk sphinx]

If not getting some pretty useless ship with no tech makes you the unluckiest man in the world, man I envy your life

[craggy lance]

i gotta catch 'em all tho

[late flame]

be like me do 200 pulls but anyways it belongs more at #al-general

[worldly pewter]

i envy ur coins

[abstract marsh]

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[elfin hollow]

This thing good?

[soft raft]

If you mean the thing that happens and ends the fight, that's on purpose and there's no stopping it

[elfin hollow]

All clone is dead, or 10 secs remaining in the fight.

[abstract marsh]

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[soft raft]

Odin gun sidegrade

And if you're never gonna consider using Odin gun, you're not gonna be considering that either

[soft raft]

Yup

[abstract marsh]

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[elfin hollow]

How do I check how much I currently have?

I'm in the middle of finding a barrage gun.

[late flame]

#gameplay-help message

[elfin hollow]

Some of my units have low affinity does that mean I should stop playing and wait for it to replenish?

[south sequoia]

By the way, affinity is the love thing, you're thinking of morale

[elfin hollow]

The smiley face thing?

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Morale

[elfin hollow]

Is this current banner good? Should I build now?

[late flame]

nope

[elfin hollow]

Ok

How long does moral take to replenish?

Since I’m gonna try to farm the event to keep the trial unit

[keen sable]

2-6 hours depending on where you dorm or oath the ship

[late flame]

click the wiki link a few messages above

[vagrant otter]

need help in making a second fleet

[old mountain]

Does being secretary help with affinity 100-200?

[blazing shale]

I believe up until 90 affinity

[undone plover]

only during certain events

[old mountain]

so it's just doing runs and getting mvp then?

[blazing shale]

Mostly, but the mvp strat isn't needed unless you really want to minmax oil

[undone plover]

yes. u can try and control for mvp but most ppl cba

[old mountain]

alr got it thanks

[fresh tangle]

Already at 586 trust. I’m supremely confident I’ll get nano no problem now 😂

Even having to wait for her morale to recover naturally because you can’t use dorm for her is fine

[elfin hollow]

What type of gear should I get from the event shop?

[keen sable]

did you split her into a boss fleet or keep using one fleet?

[fresh tangle]

Just the one fleet.

[fresh tangle]

Didn’t quite understand that tbh but probably could do sp3 if I spend some more of my exp books. I did take Laffey to MLB

Now just figuring out who to use next

[keen sable]

you don't need 6 overpowered ships for SP2. Use Unicorn + 3 for the mobs and Shinano-chan + Laffey for the boss

[fresh tangle]

Feel like Pennsylvania does most of the work on the boss

And how does that help me with morale more efficiently?

[keen sable]

you use shinano-chan less if she only bosses

also overkill on sp2 is a bad idea

[fresh tangle]

Should I just got to sp3 then

[soft raft]

SP5 if you can

[keen sable]

SP3 is bad for a one fleeting shinano-chan (because it consumes so much morale)

[fresh tangle]

Just did the split fleet on sp2 and that was just as trivial

Think I’ll either keep doing that or try to push to 5

[keen sable]

were you the one who bought level boost? what level are the ships? around 50 now?

[fresh tangle]

I’ve barely used the books

[tropic parcel]

does using either version of rodney in the meta fight cause a change or did i immagine that?

[viscid swift]

Using Rodney or Rodney META means you can still do damage to her in the last 10 seconds of the fight

[elfin hollow]

What is the best stage for farming for the 1k thing for trial unit?

[void turret]

is there any way to bypass the damn oil limit

[south sequoia]

Event stages, but considering you're still very new you don't really have a consistent stage to farm

[keen sable]

I would use 50-60 books total to get average ship level to 70 and see if SP4 is doable with the smaller fleets. You would probably need all 200 books to even have a chance to clear SP5.

[south sequoia]

You need to progress first so you can get levels then you can grind out event

[void turret]

sometimes theres too much oil and can't collect, sometimes just one fleet action costs 58 oil because the game punishes you for progressing

[fresh tangle]

So take my main fleet to 70 then split them like I am on sp2 now?

[keen sable]

something in the event most likely

[keen sable]

yep

[south sequoia]

for the soft limit? you can if you collect oil from external sources such as mail, event, shop etc

but if you collect from canteen the game doesn't allow you

the soft limit is the number above the oil
the hard limit is 25k

[void turret]

ok

what do I do to spend less oil?

[viscid swift]

Get to oil capped maps

[fresh tangle]

Still got 120 books and got everyone to 70-72 😂

[void turret]

commander level too low

[keen sable]

SP5 doesn't have a level requirement but use less ships then

[viscid swift]

Why would you run less than full fleets on a map with an oil cap

[keen sable]

who says they're on sp5?

[fresh tangle]

Right just gonna step away and let laffey and nano get some morale then will push sp4 and maybe sp5 with split fleet

[elfin hollow]

Do all of them give the same amount?

[viscid swift]

No

[elfin hollow]

I can consistently do the first stage

[keen sable]

higher ones give slightly more

[keen sable]

you need to do SP1 50 times with shinano-chan fighting boss. If you one fleet, then you can run SP1 twice an hour for 25 total hours. Plenty of time to do it this way. Alternatively SP1 is so easy, if you put s-chan and laffey in the boss fleet and use unicorn + 1 to 3 other ships on mob you won't even have morale issues AND it's far more efficient than overkill.

[soft raft]

Honestly you're not missing much if you dont manage to get her in time

[fresh tangle]

Butterfly is so good what’re you talking about

[steady beacon]

Relative comparisons

Although I would probably argue from a resource, rather than competitive, perspective
Namely if you have invested any resources whatsoever in Shinano, you might as well try to keep her, lest those resources go to waste...

[viscid swift]

she's a decent transtional CV but nothing more

there are many better alternatives than her

[fresh tangle]

For a noob like me she’s been great

[keen sable]

alternatives yes. as cheap no

[viscid swift]

well for starters you can get Enterprise from the medal shop if you're on little Enty, Washington, or one other of the otehr servers

[late flame]

you'll also forget about her once you get the real deal

[fresh tangle]

90 medals is harder to get

[steady beacon]

What even is that build though 👀

[viscid swift]

you also have the entire month to get said 80 medals

[late flame]

rubbish build while levelling

[viscid swift]

and give it a bit more time and those 80 medals will come soon enough

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I usually do what you do, but my URs have always gotten special treatment lol
Allowed to carry my Tenrais even whilst levelling

[fresh tangle]

More excited for a replacement for Pennsylvania

[eager mulch]

not full rainbow, he doesn’t love her enough

[viscid swift]

Hood is also available in the medal shop if you're on Little Enterprise

you'll want to get both either way

[fresh tangle]

Yeah Pennsylvania and Portland need replacing

[viscid swift]

not Portland at this early stage

or for quite some for that matter

[fresh tangle]

So who’s my Pennsylvania getting replaced by

[viscid swift]

Hood

[fresh tangle]

27 hours and I can get another ship in guild shop

[steady beacon]

You will want to level and retro Portland for the beginner missions

Even if you come across a viable option to replace her in due course

[whole crypt]

not much else is worth getting from guild shop for ships, if you want you can get dupes for LBing

[viscid swift]

outside of the initial batch no one else in the guild shop will be of use to you for now

[fresh tangle]

Should she be my first retro

[steady beacon]

Uh... usually Uni is first

[viscid swift]

no Unicorn should be your first, then portland, then your starter

[fresh tangle]

Haven’t looked at retrofit yet but MLB

Unicorn it is

[steady beacon]

This is also though like uh...
Partly dictated probably by what retro prints you have

[viscid swift]

to a degree but by and large new players don't really have any so they're basically farming from scratch for retro BPs

[fresh tangle]

None and a lot of things need medals of honour so not sure what to prioritise

[viscid swift]

retro blueprints are never a priority from the medal shop, far too overpriced

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#medal give that a read

[rain vine]

you just get retro bps from hard mode

[viscid swift]

I'll bug sam to fix it later but Specilized Cores are just below Gold Bullins in terms of priority from the Medal Shop

[steady beacon]

Don't generally buy from medal shop bc the price is nuts (1 gold retro for 100, vs 80 for SR is beyond absurd), really only if you (1) have too many medals and (2) are desperate
A combination that doesn't normally go together, unless you're me in May-ish of 2022

[fresh tangle]

Buy bulin enterprise and good basically

[sinful elk]

Chat how do i kill this thing like fr

[stark quiver]

more damage and use more fleet u get 4

[viscid swift]

and the Specialised Cores

[sinful elk]

I don't have nukings and only that fleet of mine is more than lvl 100

[fresh tangle]

Alright time to get a bunch of medals of honour and get enterprise and gold first

Think I’ll likely get the medals before I finish beginner tasks

[stark quiver]

cant do much about it

[sinful elk]

And leaving make the boss hp reset yes?

[stark quiver]

yea

[sinful elk]

Gahh i need nukings

[stark quiver]

idk if u can leave abyssals and it still stays there

[rain vine]

is that a stronghold?

[sinful elk]

No its

[stark quiver]

nah abyssal, stronghold doesnt have the toll of war

[sinful elk]

Next to gilbartar port

[soft raft]

do you have any idea how little that narrows it down (No it barely narrows down shit)

[sinful elk]

What that effect exactly do

[keen sable]

you can't return to an abyssal

[rain vine]

that doesnt tell me anything

[steady beacon]

If you leave an Abyssal, it vanishes

[sinful elk]

Dawg i'm stuck there?

[fresh tangle]

Should my first 80 medals go for hood or enterprise

[stark quiver]

yea until u either kill it or leave, if u cant kill it then just leave u cant do anything about it

[rain vine]

you can leave, but you lose the abyssal

[soft raft]

not if you can beat its ass
otherwise you're gonna have to take the L and leave

[steady beacon]

There are uh
Mob fleets hidden in the mist in the south corners of the Abyssal place if you want to clear the fleet debuff
But it doesn't clear the individual debuff if any of your ships sank in that fight

[sinful elk]

8 hrs for 1 fight is crazy but i am dedicted to get some good gear

[stark quiver]

oh yea forgot abt that

[keen sable]

if you can't one shot it you will never kill that abyssal

[sinful elk]

[rain vine]

that wont help, based on the boss hp

[sinful elk]

My fleet does 170k avg

[steady beacon]

Oh, good catch lol
It has the healing module lmao
That is tough

[keen sable]

it's a healer. just give up

[elfin hollow]

It heals 20 - 30% everytime its hp falls below 30%

[stark quiver]

tragic

[soft raft]

Yeah just leave
No amount of waiting for the heal cooldown will save your ass, it'll only prolong your suffering

[sinful elk]

I thought its easier than a stronghold

[stark quiver]

some are

[elfin hollow]

Welcome to the reality.

[soft raft]

they uh
they give you a warning before you enter for a reason

[stark quiver]

but then again u cn heal and retry stronghold

[viscid swift]

on the basis that you can't leave and heal with Abyssals but you can for Strongholds

[steady beacon]

Ngl, if I were you uh
I'd just throw all four fleets at it first before you leave

Hit the furthest milestone you can before giving up

[novel condor]

blud got the healing abyssal, quite unlucky

[steady beacon]

You probably can't beat it with that healing module, but no harm in just... taking every last reward for your suffering

[novel condor]

just try to damage as much as u can while getting some of the rewards ye

[fresh tangle]

Medals of Honour are got how?

[steady beacon]

Primarily by retiring ships Rare and higher

[viscid swift]

mainly retiring dupes of Rare and higher rarity ships

[steady beacon]

There's always a set of medals for uh... cruise pass
And a couple of other rewards in a few things
But the vast majority of your medals will come from the endless dupes you get from farming/building being retired

[fresh tangle]

So really I should just retire any rare ships that aren’t penn and Portland

[viscid swift]

no, retire all their dupes but don't retire unqiue ships

[soft raft]

retiring D u p e s

[fresh tangle]

Yeah sorry haha. The rares are useful for commissions

[steady beacon]

Keep the first copies (at least for the moment)

[undone plover]

Free cruise pass gives no medals

[keen sable]

a lot of the dupes you have most likely lead to free gems and gear

[steady beacon]

My bad lol
Genuinely thought those were the free ones

[opal stream]

smh whale

[fresh tangle]

Yeah got 9 medals and some money. I’ll take it

Enterprise before Hood?

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmm...
I'd personally say Penny --> Hood is a more considerable upgrade than Shinano-chan --> Enty but uh
One could plausibly argue the other way...

[whole crypt]

I'd take Hood if you can keep Shinano-chan

[viscid swift]

you'll want to get both before the end of the month anyway

[whole crypt]

Shinano-chan cheaper to LB for early on so

not getting Enterprise from medals isn't end of the world, pool can rotate in again and there's still rookie missions reward

[stark quiver]

is max fleet tech achieved by obtaining all the ships with tech, mlb, 120 or whatever they require?

[spark yew]

Sir,sorry before any tips for new? And also recom party for mid game pls

[stark quiver]

sweet gonna take a while then

[novel condor]

how many strongholds can u get per month?

[viscid swift]

give that a read, also use San Fransico instead of Helena https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[steady beacon]

The long grind indeed
Don't forget your faction tech as well, of course

[spark yew]

Thanks sir

[whole crypt]

which is why you prioritize ships that give you tech that's useful first

[late flame]

b-but waifu

[whole crypt]

2 on reset and 1 every week

[stark quiver]

so something like uvh and all that

[viscid swift]

*every Monday

[steady beacon]

I mean, UvH is probably more than just "tech"

Although she certainly is that precious RLD

[viscid swift]

well, you don't need to MLB UvH to get that reload tech...

[whole crypt]

when we talk about tech fodder we're usually talking abaout ships that are otherwise just completely 🚮 besides the tech contribution, UvH is actually useful besides tech

[stark quiver]

i meant like doing what the ships require for tech, not necessarily mlbing all

[viscid swift]

I was hinting at if you don't have the bullins you can still lvl 120 a 0 LB UvH and get the reload tech

[whole crypt]

please don't tell me you intend to 120 UvH without MLBing her just for the tech

[stark quiver]

i got a shinano at 2/3 lb

[whole crypt]

eventually you'll raise everyone anyway but UvH is more priority than just tech

yeh so MLB Shinano first
leveling more ships isn't a quick business

[stark quiver]

maybe mlbing nano first wasnt as smart now that i think about it

[late flame]

just do more pulls

[viscid swift]

well partially limit breaking a UR never is these days

[stark quiver]

waiting on monday for new cruise pass challenges

[steady beacon]

Well, you're halfway through the stream Bulin-wise...
Don't change horses, at least with respect to the URs you currently have

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with MLBing Shinano first

[stark quiver]

yea i kinda needed the cv fleet for dps and and uvh wasnt as high priority for bb fleet

[whole crypt]

exactly

don't overthink about tech, you'll get there eventually

[viscid swift]

as I said if you really want the tech you can UvH doesn't need to be MLB for it

[steady beacon]

Also I would argue that at the stage you're at, BB RLD tech is... probably not the first thing you should be worrying about

[whole crypt]

if the other ships you're using are good you might want to use them to carry weaker fodder BBs first for the sake of tech

assuming you already have a proper BB fleet

[stark quiver]

i have bis2,soyuz,musashi, and nj, not counting uvh cuz unusable~

not the best, but it works

[viscid swift]

that's already better than most

[steady beacon]

Former three constitutes a complete triple BB
Hmmmm... I'm a bit biased but even though I dutifully completed both types' RLD, I still feel CV RLD is far more impactful than BB RLD
The latter is useful, but the former makes some otherwise impossible things possible

[viscid swift]

just do both really

besides leveling triple BBs even in W12 can be a bit of a hassle at times

[tame orchid]

I already got enterprise from the rookie training. Should i get another enty via medal shop and dupe LB her(i have only one SR bulin) or should i wait and get someone else

[viscid swift]

you only have one SR Bullin? I'd go for the dupe to use for limit breaking

[soft raft]

Get Hood if you haven't/can
Otherwise sure you can get a dupe Enty

[tame orchid]

Already have an MLBed hood

Got her from random pulls

But thanks

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething don't do random pulls

[tame orchid]

I meant event pulls

By random pulls

[late flame]

something something sure pull if you have cubes saved
or if you believe you
Will
Have
A
Lucky
Encounter

[tame orchid]

This was during the abyssal refrain event, lol

[viscid swift]

something something read my Guide to 100%

[blissful hamlet]

any new news on the meta dockspace?

[steady beacon]

Not since the original announcement plus reiteration in the JP livestream for the muse event
(Or, at least, none that I myself have seen)
Watch it get delayed like augment modules

[plain saffron]

iirc on CN anniversary is the target

[viscid swift]

they said sometime in May, nothing more

[elfin hollow]

Should I buy the level up offers that you need to use gems

[plain saffron]

uhh what

[rain vine]

no

[elfin hollow]

What should I use gems on then?