gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

why does littorio have a torp shield? idfk

[steady beacon]

History
That's it
Not that it actually helped, historically

[whole crypt]

because devs don't actually how the game works

[atomic abyss]

After battle starts, deploys 2 shields that can each block up to 1 (2) enemy torpedoes around this ship and the Lead Ship of the Escort Fleet. Additionally, increases own Firepower by 4% (20%) for her first 3 battles of each sortie. [This skill's sortie battle counter resets when moving to a new area or changing your formation within Operation Siren.]

[viscid swift]

something something concrete torp protection system

[opal stream]

random historical stuff that didnt work both irl and in game

[whole crypt]

you have a choice of devs not knowing how the in-game dynamics actually work or decide to just completely ignore it

[atomic abyss]

actually, have we ever gotten a ship with shields that functioned like norfolk's?

[steady beacon]

She I think refers to it in her lines somewhere, actually, either in an event or one of her in-game lines
The Pugliese system she's so proud of

[opal stream]

royal oak increase own speed in battle
being a mainfleet

[atomic abyss]

in case you're going to ask
norfolk has front facing shields that don't rotate

[whole crypt]

I think only Norfolk has a fixed forward shield

[opal stream]

unzen

[sweet delta]

zara

[stark quiver]

Is there a sheet what drops the most spec cores

[whole crypt]

is Zara's shield fixed?

[atomic abyss]

oh right, i did forget zara

[sweet delta]

Somewhere on wiki

[whole crypt]

I have to admit I never noticed Unzen's shield

[atomic abyss]

actually, i don't remember her shield being fixed

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Specialized_Core_Collection_Plan

[steady beacon]

Probably the issue with Unzen's shield, compared to, say, Norfolk, is it's not exactly the thing you'd fixate on first when thinking about her...

[atomic abyss]

she's the one that actually HAD a good shield skill

[sweet delta]

You think about Norfolk?

[atomic abyss]

i mean norfolk actually did have one of the best shield skills yes

[steady beacon]

I want max CA RLD so some thought must be given

[atomic abyss]

but that's more cos of the miserable state of shield skills

[whole crypt]

I leveled Norfolk without thinking about her

[opal stream]

mainz

[atomic abyss]

Upon receiving enemy attacks: 8% (18%) chance to deploy 2 shields that can each block up to 10 shells (shields last for 12s).
Zara's shields pre-aug

compared to them timer based shields, this one was actually useful lol

[whole crypt]

didn't it have an int CD

[opal stream]

theres probably more but thats already more than just norfolk

[atomic abyss]

it did have an ICD yeah

iirc it was 12s lol

[steady beacon]

I know it's a completely different kind of shield, but whenever "shield" is brought up, my mind immediately defaults to absorption shields because those are actually useful
And it probably goes without saying who I think of for that...

[whole crypt]

too many ships

[opal stream]

we call that barrier

[steady beacon]

Blame my translator
Or maybe JP, if that's a faithful translation

[atomic abyss]

are people actually using lusty for w15 support fleets btw

[steady beacon]

Yes

[sweet delta]

Why would you not

[atomic abyss]

and i don't mean "unironically"
i mean they seriously raised lusty just for w15

[viscid swift]

why not

[whole crypt]

unless you have an alternative already raised

[steady beacon]

Uh... Idk about just...
But all three of mine were Level 120 by that time so... use them, I suppose

[viscid swift]

may as well go all out for W15

[opal stream]

people even 125 her for w15

[whole crypt]

unless you have an alternative already raised

[atomic abyss]

...what do you mean all three

[eager mulch]

lusty, musty, indom, implac

[steady beacon]

Lusty, Muse, and Indomitable
Sorry for the shorthand

[whole crypt]

lusty musty lil

[viscid swift]

there are 3 Illustriouses

[eager mulch]

lil lusty

[sweet delta]

[atomic abyss]

for a brief moment i thought you raised 3 copies

[steady beacon]

No, I haven't lost my marbles that much... probably

[whole crypt]

but best is Indomitable anyway

[steady beacon]

Check back when Vanguard reruns and I have the urge to try a bad idea

[whole crypt]

that's Soon™️ so what's your idea

[viscid swift]

I have the urge to flex 2 Tables

[atomic abyss]

that certainly is an interesting skillset...

[sweet delta]

One illustrious on each fleet

[opal stream]

implac

[whole crypt]

Indomitable is better than Implacable for support

[atomic abyss]

genuine question, does anyone actually run dual fighter impla

[steady beacon]

Yes

Dual rocket fighter, mind you, but that still counts

[soft raft]

for W15 support fleet yeah

[atomic abyss]

oh right, yeah i forgot rockets

[whole crypt]

dual rocket for bosses
dual proper fighters for support if you're not using in main fleets

[sweet delta]

So where the rainbow fighter

[whole crypt]

100 what AVI

[opal stream]

oh wait thats acv

[atomic abyss]

i mean then again, i imagine most people would rather use impla in their fleets...

[steady beacon]

That was what I thought day 1
The progression of time has shown that to not be a necessity, at least from the fleets I've seen since...

[cobalt rapids]

implac goes to support in the best fleets but it depends on ur dock

[atomic abyss]

people just lazy to raise something else i presume

[sweet delta]

The meta boss fleet for 3 starring is soyuz Perseus indep

[whole crypt]

wait, did 15 come first or Implacable

[steady beacon]

Implacable

[viscid swift]

Implacable

[cobalt rapids]

15 came after unzen

[steady beacon]

15 was like... October last year or something? Implac was Feb

[viscid swift]

W15 was October last year

[whole crypt]

I've lost my sense of time with this game

[opal stream]

its been 7 years 👴

[whole crypt]

then I probably chose not to use Implacable because I didn't want to regear her from boss fleets

[atomic abyss]

like, i'd probably just slot centaur into support fleet cos i'd be too lazy to raise lusty and co

[viscid swift]

well maybe wait until you've actually tried W15....

[whole crypt]

you'll have better luck with Chen Hai, need to raise her for RLD anyway

[viscid swift]

it's a very different kettle of fish from what you're used to

[atomic abyss]

hey it's just a theory

i mean my centaur is alr 125

[steady beacon]

Getting swarmed by planes is a surprisingly good motivator 👀

[whole crypt]

Centaur is not bad for being fast but her slots are 🚮

[atomic abyss]

yeah her slots are atrocious

[viscid swift]

yes, having the US fleet air arm suddenly switch sides is uh yeah, not fun

[worldly pewter]

what are the odds of them releasing an UR submarine ?

[viscid swift]

they have, quite a few already....

[opal stream]

non zero

[atomic abyss]

and, albion is just a better centaur right?

[whole crypt]

missed the edit, obviously

[atomic abyss]

a UR sub is... not an impossibility but it would be ridiculous

putting aside the argument of what sub it'd be...
what would a UR sub need to be "UR"

[opal stream]

more dmg

[cobalt rapids]

thats a better question for the dev brainstorming room

[viscid swift]

yep

[sweet delta]

#al-general

[whole crypt]

sad RNG is sad

[steady beacon]

My conspiracy theory is we're actually playing as the Japanese from W13 onwards

[sweet delta]

#al-general #trophy-room

[haughty dust]

Is that gold hellcat any good?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[steady beacon]

... Good Lord, how early did Noshi die...

[atomic abyss]

pretty much your best AA fighter before gear lab upgrades

[whole crypt]

30s left on the clock

[steady beacon]

[haughty dust]

Done and crafted thank you for the advice

[cobalt rapids]

the best 2x500lb fighter if not counting pirate

[atomic abyss]

and you can gear lab upgrade them into tigercats if necessary

[opal stream]

dont

[haughty dust]

I didn’t realize I already had one so that makes number two

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething flaps take ordnance if you need to save them

[atomic abyss]

just make them flapjacks

[steady beacon]

She sacrifices pretty much all of Centaur's support for more damage (unless you count the slightly extra hidden gauge protection that I've never actually managed to make work effectively)
But when she goes off, she does go pretty hard

[whole crypt]

and this one the whole vanguard died wtf

[atomic abyss]

yeah i thought that hidden gauge thing would be useful

[steady beacon]

Your whole vanguard died...

[atomic abyss]

...at this point i'm seriously considering to try soyuz for rodM since i lack sushi...

[opal stream]

i tried it
didnt end well
probably just drop shinano for haku and run jintsum

[atomic abyss]

i mean im using nagato currently so

surely it can't be worse...?

[steady beacon]

It's possible my AA game sucks, but I've still never been able to protect the gauge of any triple CV fleet over the course of four rotations if there were no interceptors
I genuinely thought Albion might make it work but alas

[atomic abyss]

perhaps when we get 130...

[whole crypt]

I mean between Musashi and Unzen it's still 3 IJN on Shinano, I don't remember if unbuffed Hakuryuu does better than buffed Shinano

[worldly pewter]

i tried rodmeta fight for the first 2 days and never did it again

[opal stream]

with fs5 yes
and soyuz buff cv by 10% so

[whole crypt]

ah Soyuz

[steady beacon]

Has anyone tried that, actually
Hakuryuu in Shina's place in that fleet

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething timing

[steady beacon]

Ye that's what I thought was the problem

[opal stream]

haku is faster than shina with same loadout cuz 4 db instead of 3

[steady beacon]

Isn't that... exactly the problem or am I tripping

[opal stream]

like 0.3s faster
soyuz without rld buff is slower than musashi tho

[whole crypt]

ehh will need to check how fast you go and whether it overlaps with whichever BB, shouldn't overlap with Implacable

[tranquil crescent]

how do i lvl up fast

[whole crypt]

keep playing, early game is slow

[tranquil crescent]

im lvl 49, i wanna get to 50

[whole crypt]

keep playing the highest stage you can do

[tranquil crescent]

ok

[steady beacon]

I feel like the argument would have proceeded: you're sacrificing your DB slot and it's better to do that with Shina than Haku... also, since the play is juicing Unzen, Shina's over time debuff is more valuable than Haku's lightning that will probably never even hit main Rodney...
But I maybe should give thought to testing that in reality...

[whole crypt]

is fulmar the only DB faster than 12A

[atomic abyss]

yes

[steady beacon]

Hmmmm... Haku Ju-87/Fulmar/Saiun hits 18.4, vs Shina Saiun/Fulmar/Saiun 18.34
Now watch those 0.06 seconds still trigger Dim Transcendence

[whole crypt]

is that after bacon

[opal stream]

theres another one that run ap gun on musashi
with +8 fulmar on shina

[steady beacon]

Yep

There's a part of me always secretly wondering how much Hakuryuu owes to Shinano's +15% AVI/ACC whenever she goes right off...
Because I still remember one... very eye-opening attempt I once tried against AlgM with Haku sans Shina and she ended up losing to Enterprise... granted, this was pre-FS5 but the seed of scepticism that planted in me has never quite been cut out

[whole crypt]

I vaguely remember pre-FS Hakuryuu without buff is worse than Shinano with buff, I'm just not sure how the comparison goes after FS

[steady beacon]

The numbers I've seen are at least favourable, so I am willing to grant the possibility
But even if we take it as a pure "by the numbers" individually, it also must still compete with my deep, abiding belief in over time debuff effects like the one Shina has... small, maybe, but I know very well that it adds up over the entire battle

[whole crypt]

looks worse, probably because TB plane count

[azure salmon]

For AA, twin 40s for back and 6 40s for front right

[opal stream]

no?

[steady beacon]

Eh... Idk about sextuples for everyone but you probably don't straight die either

[azure salmon]

[cobalt rapids]

staag for backline is fine, vang aa is abit more complicated than that

[azure salmon]

Can I just give them the rainbow AA and call it good

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[steady beacon]

That's what I do

[cobalt rapids]

but ure paying extra resources for good when u could have amazing for less

[azure salmon]

what’s good AA that I can give to vanguard and just turn my brain off

[whole crypt]

30k less on Hakuryuu

[azure salmon]

I’m too lazy to constantly swap out equipment so I just keep the equipment on them almost permanently

[sharp token]

is it beatable? for a new like me?

[atomic abyss]

normal arbiter yes

[opal stream]

anyone can beat normal

[azure salmon]

Most likely, it’ll help to get the number thing up that debuffs enemies and in normal you can leave and come back

[viscid swift]

You can leave, heal in port, and come back

[cobalt rapids]

then rainbow, or just give em a combination of roomba and twin90

[whole crypt]

might be different with Soyuz but as it stands Hakuryuu is doing worse than my Shinano records

[sharp token]

do that till she dies?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[steady beacon]

Appreciate the tests

[azure salmon]

Hard might be a bit harder but for normal you can leave, heal, and come back

[worldly pewter]

for hard just let pilica theorycraft for u

[whole crypt]

gearing compared

[steady beacon]

Granted, I'll note that Shina does... once in a blue moon derp that badly for me, too, but... after everything said so far, I am inclined to take that as reason not to try...

[opal stream]

at this point just try everything
even if it sounds dumb

[steady beacon]

Esp in light of my concerns about the debuff

[whole crypt]

all of these still hit 75 points, we're just trying to find the better optimization

[worldly pewter]

pilica are u ready to elp me again ?

[whole crypt]

still getting huge range from Unzen from torp derps anyway

[steady beacon]

Yes, indeed, thank God
I think everyone would mald if stable 75pt wasn't even possible

[opal stream]

we need -speed gear 😔

[steady beacon]

Sure

[worldly pewter]

anything i need to prepare for the span of this month ?

[sweet delta]

Malding for reaching 70k one day later

[sweet delta]

Strength and Takao are both medium armor

[whole crypt]

for the record 73pt assists do not delay your 70k

[cursive creek]

What do I do with my trash ships

[sweet delta]

Enhance good ships

[viscid swift]

use them as enhancemnt fodder

[cursive creek]

Ok thanks

[whole crypt]

can't remember if 71 will, but there's enough room for the last day for you to hit 70k on the same day with either 73 or 75pt assists

it does make 25k one day late

[steady beacon]

Genuinely never calculated myself
OK, maybe I would
Ngl, if not for the fact that this auto comp just happened to use ships I like and am interested in mechanically, I'd have on manual until the end...

[whole crypt]

pulled out my spreadsheet, if you miss nothing at all with 75pt assists you get 70836 on day 75, and if you 71pt assist the whole way it's 70020 on the same day

for about a year I actually used to track my progress with that sheet when I screwed up assists or missed attempts

[steady beacon]

Probably better use than what I am currently using a sheet for...
I remember doing some point calcs for Souryuu, but ever since I've been able to get more than enough so it never bothered me
... I guess, in saying that, it's never been the points per se that bothered me... it's the ability to kill or not

[whole crypt]

end of the day it's the same 70k points, I've given up tracking in full when I started missing more attempts with busy days

there's plenty of spare time to hit it

[sweet delta]

I stop before 70k so that I can still play when they return to dossier 🧠

[midnight ocean]

should i pull anyone in this banner ?

[viscid swift]

no

[novel solstice]

None of them are amazingly good. Pull for them if you are a completionist and want to get everyone, or if one of them is your wifu and you want her as secretary or something. Save your cubes for next UR banner if you want the most powerful ships.

[sweet delta]

Follow ur heart if you want to, but none of them are good for progression

[soft raft]

No
they're all realistically collection tier in the long run and provide no tech bonuses

And we are highly likely to have a UR event later this month

[midnight ocean]

tbh everyone in this game are my wifus. they're so cuteeeeee

[elfin hollow]

Or if you like how Formi booba looks

[midnight ocean]

hmm so only Shinano worth to pull this banner right ?

[cobalt rapids]

shinano isnt on event banner and u shouldnt pull perms

[midnight ocean]

[eternal moth]

If you don't have 400 cubes, just pull 1/day until next event, which should be a new UR

[midnight ocean]

damn i didnt know that. Shinano took me ~20 cubes

[cobalt rapids]

on light

[midnight ocean]

wait so who are perm URs ?

[cobalt rapids]

new jersey and shinano

[eternal moth]

Shinano and NJ

[midnight ocean]

ohh i see

will UR exchange reset when banner ends ?

[eternal moth]

I just realized. Next major event should be CN anni right? I'm surprised I haven't seen any information about it yet; normally they start the anniversary stuff fairly early

[cobalt rapids]

Perma UR exchange doesnt reset till claimed

[eternal moth]

Permanent won't, but it won't carry over to the new event

[midnight ocean]

hmm so when new UR come, i have to pull 400 times to exchange a new UR ?

[viscid swift]

no

[cobalt rapids]

if u need to pity u have to pull 200 times or 400 cubes

[midnight ocean]

oh i see

[eternal moth]

So during new UR events it'll reset and won't count up, but once that event is over you'd still have 60/400 on the UR exchange

[cobalt rapids]

but the rates are expected to come early

[viscid swift]

I should get back to work on my 100% guide

[cobalt rapids]

your 100% guide includes each chapter guide ?

[viscid swift]

uhhhhh

[midnight ocean]

uhhh 1 more question, can anyone teach me how to use these oil fast so i can buy this free pack ?

[cobalt rapids]

the bestest way is to sortie, the fastest way is to buy curry in dorm

[olive geyser]

is asuka or rikka good? i have them but never leveled them

[cobalt rapids]

they are ok, nothing special

[eternal moth]

Do you have their augments and special gear for Rikka?

[olive geyser]

i do

[eternal moth]

She's pretty strong if you do

[olive geyser]

should i go level them then?

[sweet delta]

What content do you need their help with to clear?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur dock

[olive geyser]

for event clearing when the ships i normally use runs out of morale

[eternal moth]

Do you keep your ships in the dorm?

[olive geyser]

ye

[cobalt rapids]

then i would rather spend my bulins and cogs on ships that also give tech or more better ships unless u particulary like them
u can use any ship for event farm same as xp grinding in campaign

[olive geyser]

the dorm can't keep up with the recovery

[cobalt rapids]

do u have 3 slots + 2nd floor ?

[olive geyser]

that's where i place them

[cobalt rapids]

so the whole fleet is in dorm ?

[olive geyser]

i only place my main fleet there tho

i switch out the vanguards

[cobalt rapids]

place all, the morale drain is the same independant of position

3 on first floor, 3 on 2nd floor

[olive geyser]

I'm farming exp for kearsarge rn

[sharp token]

if im facing a boss i should put 2 torp bomber in shin right?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on boss and where

[sharp token]

then when should i do that?

[cobalt rapids]

when ure facing a single target heavy boss and u dont need aa

[glacial heath]

extreme challenge takao hard mode need help with gear or new comp

[ivory linden]

Is plymouth viable dev 20 or 25? don't remember which one

[eager mulch]

only for her buff

[opal stream]

anything below 30 is only for the buff

[ivory linden]

I'm just planning to put her in world 12 to grind levels so I guess it doesn't matter that much. Thank you

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys tai yuan and yat sen are pretty good retro fit yea?

[eager mulch]

they’re good

[trim sparrow]

Alrite cool thanks

[wraith oyster]

Can someone help me out because i dont remember, can we only use 1 research slot at a time even though we have 6?

[pure geode]

you can que them

[trim sparrow]

Does nubian want to be in the middle?

[jaunty vault]

most DDs do

including nubian but it also depends on your fleet

[trim sparrow]

Grinding for plym so im gonna have ches nubian dido in one fleet drake jerv and scylla in another

[jaunty vault]

sure

that works

[trim sparrow]

Coo thanks

[jaunty vault]

dorm your ships for longer grinds

[trim sparrow]

Yessir

[still merlin]

unrelated to gameplay but is most event banner get rerun around 2 years ever since first release?

[eager mulch]

that’s what the schedule is showing

[still merlin]

which schedule?

[eager mulch]

the schedule of past events

[inner delta]

the schedule that people compiled from past events

[low juniper]

How exactly does the opsi data logger work

[forest palm]

the 5k oil thing? takes all the map rewards turns it into a care package, and you can access any node in the map

[low juniper]

Oh

So what happens to the zones after that

Like do they still get the chest/boss/quest icons?

[wispy pendant]

the fog is gone, and you can explore them without first securing the adjacent zones

yes, you still get the chest for first clearing the zone

[low juniper]

So I should buy it before doing anything

[wispy pendant]

you buy it to safe clicks on your radar or navigating the fog of war, to make it easier to go anywhere

Some think it's a "waste" of oil, but others think it's well worth it for the quality of life improvement

I always buy it now myself

[low juniper]

Well I have a surplus of oil and I forget to do opsi because of how much time it takes to clear stuff so I'ma do it

[wispy pendant]

hope you enjoy it

[low juniper]

And what about the hidden data logger, is it worth it?

[soft raft]

it's basically the Hidden zone version of the regular one but it costs OpSi vouchers insetad of oil

[wispy pendant]

it takes the fog away from all the golden chest zones "hidden" zones , making them far easier to auto

[low juniper]

So should I buy both or just the 5k oil one

[wispy pendant]

we've explained what they do, you do what you want now

[low juniper]

Aight

[wispy pendant]

I buy them both personally

[keen sable]

I buy none

[wraith oyster]

How do i know which cats i can get rid of

[novel solstice]

There is a cats command that you can run over in bot-spam

[haughty dust]

Operation Siren Help

[wraith oyster]

Are all blue cats safe to get rid of?

[sudden spire]

how do i beat supply line distribution exactly

do i just save all the torpedos i got for the boss

[viscid swift]

You need to sink 2 merchant ships, kill the bosses, and have all subs survive for S rank

[jaunty vault]

use good subs with appropriate levels and good gear

[sudden spire]

merchant ships are the ones carrying the gold yeah

[viscid swift]

Yes

[sudden spire]

are there 3 bosses?

[worldly pewter]

aside from the torp shots what does the sub gun do for submarines ?

[jaunty vault]

there's some torps that give you estra load but g7e/bidder works

gun shoots

[cursive creek]

Is she any good and if so who should she replace in my main team?

[viscid swift]

No

[cobalt rapids]

no1

[soft raft]

Not really and no one respectively

[low dove]

chkalov’s fate got any cool uses?

fleet building I mean

adds an extra slow debuff, 50% for 3 seconds though

[soft raft]

Her fate sim doesn't really drastically change her possible use cases

50% slow doesn't really mean much when you have AvP and Implacable

[cursive creek]

[low dove]

definitely doubted she wouldn’t be in any fleet, suppose analyzing the blueprints for an extra UR gear print ig

[cursive creek]

Are any of the banner units any good?

[soft raft]

They are overall collection tier all things considered
Typical SR good, Elite meh with no absolute must-get standout

And we are highly likely to have a UR event later this month which will be infinitely more worth pulling for than a bunch of ships that don't have any long term value, not even tech points/fleet tech

There's zero practical justification to raising dupes in general so yeah

[soft raft]

Ngl you may as well FS5 her so you can get rid of her face research and get Plymouth/Brest BPs faster

[cursive creek]

Very disappointing. So cool looking but useless

[keen sable]

The highest level has 2 bosses. Use oxytorps also

[sudden spire]

oxytorps?

[low dove]

good idea, those two fate sims will go into good use

[soft raft]

Oxygen torpedoes

[sweet delta]

Type 93 pure oxygen torpedoes

[keen sable]

I'm snail looking up name 🐌

[sweet delta]

/wiki 93 pu

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Type_93_Pure_Oxygen_Torpedo

[sweet delta]

Gold and purple drop from Sakura tech boxes

[wraith oyster]

Will we be able to get laffey ii again anytime soon?

[whole jolt]

Could someone help me make a second ship formation?

[eternal basalt]

Expect 2026

[wraith oyster]

Wait i still have a shinano's token in my depot, is this a permanent shinano?

Completely forgot about it

[rain vine]

no, thats just a memento of a previous event
it doesnt do anything

[trim path]

i'm 400 specialized core away from affording to mlb two ur ships, so basically enough. will there probably be more than one ur in anniversary? or do i mlb one i already have now?

[rain vine]

who knows

[low juniper]

My god they make this so much easier

Whoops ping on meant to turn it off

[eternal basalt]

~~2 KMS UR BB ~~

[trim sparrow]

Not sure if im gearing her right. Is this coo or what should i change?

[rain vine]

what content?

[trim sparrow]

Just farming xp in 12-4

[cobalt rapids]

its fine

[low juniper]

Hypothetically could I have 2 of the same ship (for example, 2 Unicorns) that have the exact same level and gear and swap them out when the other gets low on Morale or is that not how it works?

[cobalt rapids]

hypothetically yes

realistically having two of the same ship is a waste of resources

[keen sable]

If you're like poor rich I guess

[eager mulch]

DB implac moment

[wraith oyster]

This decent for w11?

[cobalt rapids]

its decent pro max

[rain vine]

may or may not be a tad overkill

[inland shoal]

No, Uni and JdA are breaking the colour scheme you got going

[wraith oyster]

Also, my uni and yuu seem to have lower stats than the rest by a good margin

[inland shoal]

Ignore Total Stats, it's complete rubbish

[viscid swift]

First, stats aren't the only deciding factor if a ship is good or not

[wraith oyster]

Oh i found out why

[viscid swift]

[wraith oyster]

And my yuudachi has no gear

I cleared w10 like this :/

[rain vine]

because the rest of your fleet was carrying all of the damage

[viscid swift]

Do I want to know what gear looks like for everyone else

[jaunty vault]

nuh uh

[wraith oyster]

Twin 135 model 1938 is good on yuudachi yes?

[whole jolt]

When you put good gear on the ships that is intended for them it makes such a big difference

[wraith oyster]

There was once or twice with yuudachi had mvp

[whole jolt]

I was not able to defeat one stage and I changed up the gear and boom

[wraith oyster]

Twin 135 model 1938 is good on yuu?

[rain vine]

its a good dd gun, yes

[terse sinew]

Which WRL to farm coins?

[wraith oyster]

These are my options, i can enhance the 135 if thats best

[rain vine]

as high as you can go post-world 9
people usually sit on 13-4 or 14-4

[cobalt rapids]

any >= w12

[wraith oyster]

But make sure whatever u choose is x-4

Pretty sure farming 12-4 for coins is better than farming 13-2

[rain vine]

its not

[cobalt rapids]

mby once ure done midgame u stop farming x-4 stages altogether

[inland shoal]

Depends on what you call midgame ig

[eager mulch]

W15

[wraith oyster]

Idk how ppl need coins, im sitting on 263k and idk what to spend it on

[inland shoal]

But depending on your spendings and the stuff you're leveling you'll likely farm 12-4 for a loong time
13-1 kinda hard until you are done with backline or decide to jsut bring Uni or sth

[eternal basalt]

By doing something else than 12-4

[wraith oyster]

I dont do 12-4

Im not even to w12 yet lol

[eager mulch]

263k coins with that gear, my goodness

got the gold twin 127 on shima

+11

[wraith oyster]

U can emote doubt to me, but there a reason i asked if my fleets can do w11 lol

[jaunty vault]

MeBot be cooking shit for hours

[wraith oyster]

Yes i am casual f2p player, not really sure what gear i should be farming for shima and yuu

[cobalt rapids]

i prefer even 12-2 to 12-4 post midgame when ur spending start to fizzle like no more needing to coin so much since the ones u coining are for tech and so

[inland shoal]

p2w for gear isn't rly a thing here anyway

[wraith oyster]

Whats the best farmable main gun for shima and yuudachi?

[eternal basalt]

12-4 throw whatever you want at itt, 13-1 requires build ❌

[cobalt rapids]

blue 76mm for shima, twin100kai for yuu

[inland shoal]

Why 12-2? And I have never really experienced wanting a litle bit of coins, either I wanted more coins and went 12-4 or I wanted no coins and went 12-1

[wraith oyster]

This is what my best pieces look like lol

[cobalt rapids]

smth smth more 3* and less block or so i heard

[eternal basalt]

~~scrap those cranes ~~

[viscid swift]

You assuming higher rarity means better for gear is a fundamental mistake

[eager mulch]

there’s like, 4 good things excluding the steam catapults in that pic

[wraith oyster]

Anyways, what should I spend my coins on? I recently dropped the rest of the games i play so i wanna get more serious about this game

[viscid swift]

Do research missions, enhance gear, etc

[wraith oyster]

Is it my type 93 oxytorps

[eager mulch]

fuck no, those things are shit

[viscid swift]

457, Mk7, Unzen gun

[eternal basalt]

Save 200k for |UR

[uneven cave]

It’s all your rainbow gear except the oxytorps

[inland shoal]

Like the z flag?

[wraith oyster]

Is that z flag actually good?

[viscid swift]

No it's not

[uneven cave]

Oh sorry I thought the z flag was a grey equip cause of how bad it is, no wonder I didn’t see it

[viscid swift]

It's garbage actually

[wraith oyster]

Wait so the 533 quints are bad also?

[inland shoal]

Ah that stuff yeah I've heard some ppl saying this, not rly convinced so far, but haven'tlooked much into it myself either

[viscid swift]

They're worse than other torps for auto

[cobalt rapids]

no, but worse than quads

[viscid swift]

Said torps being easily available

[inland shoal]

Z flag is one of the most useless items in the game, oxytorps at least have some usecase

[viscid swift]

At this point just read Sam's guide in #bot-spam /equip

[eternal basalt]

But my Mikasa feels naked without them, after finallt begging for 3 years

[wraith oyster]

These are my dd mains, and my surface torps

[viscid swift]

You have 2 quad mags right there

[uneven cave]

Unused 135

[cobalt rapids]

i havent tested it myself either but i seldom farm w12 these days, i think it was abit better but it could be just confirmation bias ofc

[viscid swift]

Also tash gun is being misused as NJ's aux gun

[wraith oyster]

Im think about enhancing and putting on yuudachi

[uneven cave]

Yeah do it

Far outperforms the other guns except the twin 130

[wraith oyster]

Who else would it go on? My fleets are
1: fdg, uni, yorkii, unzen, yuudachi, sandiego
2: bismarckzwei, NJ, implacable, guam, shima, jda

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

Yuudachi or Sandy for their main gun

[wraith oyster]

Would it be better than the 135 on yuudachi? Or should i put 135 on yuudachi and tash gun on sandy

[viscid swift]

Doesn't really matter

[wraith oyster]

Alright in just gonna make a thread with my gear and see if ppl will help me figure out what stages i need to farm for better gear

[soft raft]

you dont farm campaign for gear

[viscid swift]

You don't farm for gear prints in the main campaign to get better gear

[sweet delta]

i know how to simulate the expected number of N-triangle mobs and blocking mobs for chapter 12

[cobalt rapids]

and what does ⭐ say

[viscid swift]

It's not that you don't have good gear you just don't quite know what gear is good and where it's best used

[sweet delta]

doesn't mean that i'll do it

[wraith oyster]

Gear help

[ionic whale]

does grabbing specialized cores from the medal shop count toward your monthly 5K?

[whole jolt]

What is the best to spend gems on?

[eager mulch]

+1 dorm slot, 2nd dorm floor, rest on dock space

[wispy pendant]

👍

[whole jolt]

No academy slots?

[eager mulch]

no

[whole jolt]

Kay

[novel solstice]

It won't take long for the fleet that you're using to settle down and not be substituting in new ships very often; as soon as that happens you'll finish off those ship's skills in the academy and extra academy slots won't help.

[unborn owl]

NJ or Zwei for flag in 15-4?

[jaunty vault]

zwei

[wraith oyster]

ok i went in safe to scrap guide and scrapped everything, 2 questions. it says scrap purple suisei, and purple cranes. are the golds of either of these safe to scrap

[novel solstice]

Gold crane is literally the worst piece of gold equipment. Can only be used on three ships, and it's an awful idea even on those.

[wraith oyster]

thanks, i'll hold off on my suiseis since the only other gold dive bombers i have are BTD-1s

[soft raft]

those are also shit
just use the Helldiver

[wraith oyster]

purp helldiver is better than both of those golds?

[soft raft]

Purple Helldiver is basically the 2nd-3rd best DB overall

[wraith oyster]

how do i farm more? i have 7 helldiver, or is that enough

[eager mulch]

not hard to get but 7 should last enough

[soft raft]

yeah 7 should last you for a good while

[wraith oyster]

so do i hold onto my btd-1s and suiseis or just scrap em

[eager mulch]

scrap, pretty useless

[wraith oyster]

the golds*

also for implacable in boss fleet, what aircraft should i run in her middle slot? its any plane, i run hellcat as her fighter and barracuda as torp

[eager mulch]

depends

normal fighter for AA, rocket fighter for light/medium single target boss, aimed TB for single target heavy

[wraith oyster]

im in w11 if that helps and shes in boss fleet

[late flame]

TB = torp bomber btw

[eager mulch]

just run hellcat

[wraith oyster]

so hellcat hellcat barracuda

[eager mulch]

tuberculosis

[unborn owl]

That's TBC

[wraith oyster]

This should be decent right?

[sweet delta]

Good but do u have other gold AA guns

You do

But you should stop enhancing random stuff to +11

[keen sable]

there were no +10 ijn bofors an hour ago and now there is

[warm flax]

Do you guys suggest accelerators?

[keen sable]

But you should stop enhancing random stuff to +10

[wraith oyster]

ectl told me to do that gun

[jaunty vault]

the only accelerator i suggest is twin57mm

[wraith oyster]

4th option and i didnt have the 3 above it

[jaunty vault]

lol

[soft raft]

Accelerators that are not called Twin 57mm, STAAG, and Haze barely mean shit

[wraith oyster]

i get linked the ectl a lot so i figured its trusted to follow

[keen sable]

i suggest you stop using ectl for gear then

[jaunty vault]

ectl is fine

just dont go beyond +10ing your gear

[wraith oyster]

idk, i only went ahead and did +10 on that because i have a lot of aa upgrade things and plane upgrade things, the rest not so much

[warm flax]

Don't do that again

[wraith oyster]

im a simple noobly person, guide tells me o use something and i do it

[jaunty vault]

not the worst investment you could make

[keen sable]

well it's bad unless you did the two hazemeyers first and even after you had more important guns

[wraith oyster]

Cant be that bad surely

[sinful elk]

I heard that this gun is pretty good so can it replace laffey current gun?

[warm flax]

No

[eager mulch]

gun is not good

[keen sable]

it's okayish but super cope dead end. I wouldn't use it or craft it.

[sinful elk]

What about the gold ver of it

[keen sable]

probably better than duck gun because of fp

[soft raft]

but also not really considered good enough that you'd go out of your way to obtain copies of it

[timid forge]

I ignored the idol rhythm mini-game in the current event until yesterday. I got a couple of pre-drop items from playing, but I couldn’t do seven-in-a-row to get the special item, and playing today I got no musical-note takeaways at all. Am I screwed?

[soft raft]

You still got like 5 days left to do it
As long as you finish it before the event ends, you're fine

[sinful elk]

It just to take note you know, if i ever get it

[timid forge]

Yeah, I know (in theory), but usually on day 8 of the event you can binge the mini-game and be fine. Not this time?

[keen sable]

you don't need to do 7 in a row. make sure you s-rank(b), and maybe restart game

[soft raft]

Try doing the minigame one more time
if that doesnt work, restart the game

[timid forge]

I restart the game daily at least, so that’s not a problem, but I’ll check. 🙂

[viscid swift]

You're waiting until the end yes?

You won't get it if you tap out before you see your score

[timid forge]

Yep, getting plenty of S-ranks. Not perfect, but playing the whole way through.

[late flame]

mini game bugged in that if you exit befoire score loads it doesnt count as a run, as cheeky said

[slow fox]

I'm doing this instead of FORTRAN.

[wraith oyster]

Is this a decent NJ off gun?

[viscid swift]

not particularly, it's a transitional piece, nothing more

[wraith oyster]

How about twin 127 mk12?

[viscid swift]

same thing, transitional piece

[wraith oyster]

This is what i want for her off gun?

[viscid swift]

yes

but it's not a high priority to craft

[wraith oyster]

So whats like an easily obtainable off gun thats good on her

[viscid swift]

the one that Rhenex put in their gear reccs for you

[wraith oyster]

Idk the name of it

[viscid swift]

Purple Twin 120mm

[undone plover]

what is the 3rd van in the nagato modney setup? kirov meta, helena, ???

[viscid swift]

Unzen

[keen sable]

purple 128 skc

[undone plover]

is it mirov main tank?

[viscid swift]

yes

[keen sable]

is there even an unzenless comp?

[wraith oyster]

This one correct?

[viscid swift]

I rather doubt it

[viscid swift]

yes

[wraith oyster]

Why does shimakaze want a blue gun lol

[keen sable]

because her aoa is really good. really really good

[viscid swift]

because she has a really bad main gun and a very strong AoA

so fast firing gun, even though it does little damage, is the best for her to maximize damage

[wraith oyster]

So wouldnt she rather be in mob fleet than boss fleet?

[viscid swift]

she don't really have a prefference, she's fine in either

[keen sable]

good aoa is good aoa

[wraith oyster]

Aoa is meaning area of attack? Or

[keen sable]

all out assault. a skill

[wraith oyster]

OHHHH

Ignore the ? I just asked

I always forget she has that because she has 4 skills

[timid forge]

I’m still mystified. I restarted my game, played through both Alizarin and Cyanidin rhythm games, got S-ranks, stayed through the score display, no Performance Note. Can’t even find where Performance Notes are stored to see the number I’ve acquired: looked at every pane of the Depot, and don’t know where else they’d be. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[elfin hollow]

Where do I get the most obtainable iris libre ships

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#ffnf

[undone plover]

i think you can see the notes on the mini-game page itself. u should have a progress bar with how many notes u have so far

[keen sable]

Event > Karaoke

[wraith oyster]

How many of the black and white shells should i own? I have 4 white and 3 black currently. also, what should be my top priority in core data shop if i have all the shells i need?

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /coredata

[timid forge]

Just found it in the Event Page, and the moment I clicked it, I got my Harmony Ticket. Problem solved! Ah well. Despite having played the game for [mumble] years, clearly it can still confuse me. 🙃

[undone plover]

3 of each white + black is enough

[hardy skiff]

How does ships from raid event banners usually work in regards to getting them after the fact? Are they randomly added to the pool at some point?
I'm talking about limited ships from stuff like Frostfall and Reflections of the Oasis
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Frostfall
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Reflections_of_the_Oasis

[regal tinsel]

How to delete taco cm hard shield?

[viscid swift]

they are like other event ships added to the permanent build pools

whether they rerun though is another matter

[viscid swift]

do more damage

[sweet delta]

Sync your main fleet salvos or airstrikes

[hardy skiff]

how long does it usually take? is it similar to ships from regular events?

[undone plover]

i found CV easier but ig it depends on what u have

[viscid swift]

truth be told I can't say, we haven't had a none LNY raid event have even come up for rerun yet, let alone the ships being added to the permanent pools

[regal tinsel]

Can i see some gears? I ran sashi soyuz nj on ur ap guns ply agir and helena but still can't go with timer

[sweet delta]

I recommend not using UR AP guns and Helena together

[hardy skiff]

UR gun is just too fast so they're not compatible

[undone plover]

angel of the iris is coming up on 2 years and it is the next raid event to be reran so i guess it is safe to say that it will be around 2 years at least till they decide to do something about them similar to other events

[sweet delta]

A randomly synced main fleet only gets 12% buff from Helena in expectation, while a well-synced 20s main fleet gets 24% in expectation

[hardy skiff]

that is certainly longer than the 1,5 years it usually it takes for regular event reruns with shops and stuff then

[sweet delta]

CV examples

[viscid swift]

correction, it's the first "modern" raid event that is up for rerun

we don't even know if it's gonna be rerun before the ships are made permanently available

[hardy skiff]

what exactly do you mean with it's up for rerun?

[viscid swift]

comming up/due to be rerun

[sweet delta]

do you have no Biszwei or Vanguard?

[regal tinsel]

I have them both yes

[undone plover]

i mean by chronological order of events IF they decided to rerun it. my point was they havent done anything with it for the last 23 months. so the raid events u asked about could follow a similar pattern

[regal tinsel]

I tried going cvs but for some reason i am always so dumb using them and I don't damage anything even with my maxed out ur cvs

[hardy skiff]

usually CVs always include a CV with a good slow like Implacable, Parseval or Ark Royal

[sweet delta]

then you should either go Soyuz Bisz Vanguard or copy my CV planes exactly if your 3 carriers are all at the same affinity

[regal tinsel]

Thanks I'll try messing around or something thanks a lot

[hardy skiff]

hmm to be fair LNY raid events are a bit of a unique case, since they are "seasonal" events tied to a specific timeframe, it would be nice to compare to events that aren't seasonally stuck like this since it could be different with them

[sweet delta]

i guess ill add a random bb setup

[viscid swift]

I meant more in the sense that Lunar New Year events were always archived the year after and never rerun, so they're unique in that sense and can't be used as a basis

[hardy skiff]

hmm guess Lunar New Year is not a good general case then

[wraith oyster]

For heart linking harmony, use 1:1 up until sp5?

[viscid swift]

yes and the issue as I hinted at is that of the raid reruns that have happened, almost all of them were exclusive to CN and JP when EN was catching up and one raid rerun we have had on EN didn't have a banner

So Angel of Iris is basically the litmus test to see how raid events are going to be handled for reruns

[wraith oyster]

Are Unzen and Guam good 1:1 vanguard ships?

[viscid swift]

they're a bit too expensive

[undone plover]

for this event? overkill. usually ppl run a ddg

[wraith oyster]

Dont have tai, chang, or an

[viscid swift]

use Yuddachi then

[wraith oyster]

Do i need 2 1:1 fleets or just 1

[viscid swift]

just the one

[undone plover]

put crossfleet in second fleet

[wraith oyster]

Okay so who should be my main fleet 1? A cv or a bb?

[viscid swift]

Unicorn

[wraith oyster]

So just run uni and yuudachi

[viscid swift]

yes

[sweet delta]

[undone plover]

where rpg interface

[wraith oyster]

Hmm, idk if i have any vanguard crossfleets, i could use NJ and Yorkii for the main fleet though

[undone plover]

unicorn and yuudachi will clear it dw. crossfleet might just make it a bit faster by a few seconds per fight

[sweet delta]

Assuming the homework-copier doesn't do timing, rpg would indeed be good

[south sequoia]

How much rld to adjust for helena

For shinhak

[sweet delta]

Maybe like 70 from tech and cats

[south sequoia]

[hardy skiff]

@viscid swift I get it, so it's a different case, the only one I remember by heart had a rerun is the Maid one but it didn't even have a banner releasing alongside it
I checked just now on the wiki and none of the ships from the banner that ran alongside Iris are on the permanent pool yet, that kinda sucks then for me waiting for those 2 reruns then

[undone plover]

is yorkii the best anti light/med CV?

[sweet delta]

Solo CV haku should be better at med

[undone plover]

was that also the case pre fs5?

[hardy skiff]

what about FS3 Hakuryuu? which is my case, how much of an upgrade is the improved barrage on FS5?

[sweet delta]

Fs3 is missing 13 luck which is about 2.5% damage, and maybe another 5% from barrage

Or 3 to 5% barrage idk

[terse sinew]

Does Eugen Muse count towards IB PR shipyard exp?

[hardy skiff]

nope, none of the Muse ships do

[terse sinew]

Hm? does it?

[undone plover]

they dont give fleet tech but should still count for the xp grind

[viscid swift]

they don't give tech but they're still part of their original faction so they do count for grinding XP

[soft raft]

no it's the META ships that dont count

[hardy skiff]

oh right I mixed things, thought it was the exp tech to start researching the PR, my bad

[terse sinew]

Ah Ok thanks guys

[tired stream]

is ex stage meta just pray for ranger one shot kill?

[hardy skiff]

@viscid swift I only now noticed technically it has not been 2 years since Angel of the Iris yet, more like 1 year and 10 months, so at least it's not as bad yet as I initially though, usually event reruns are closer to 1,5 years but there are some weird cases that take a bit longer, UR events historically take longer than the average, all UR event reruns save for Shinano's all took slightly over 2 years to rerun, so maybe raid events take the same time on average, only time will tell how accurate this assumption is though, at least it doesn't look that much of an outlier now

[sweet delta]

it's put rainbows, auto, and afk

[undone plover]

well the only problem is that there are still 2 events that should rerun before angel of the iris. (rondo+vanguard rerun) so it could be still north of 2 years for it.

[tired stream]

ok i meant top scoring rankings, curious how rank 1 has 400 points higher than me

[hardy skiff]

well I would be happy if the up to 2 years per rerun remains more or less a constant at least

[sweet delta]

considering that quick takeoff is banned, no

[viscid swift]

I remember having a conversation with you before but I want to emphasize the point further, UR reruns don't take longer than normal rerun inherently because they're treated differently. The issue is that the time for reruns on average takes longer because the devs have consistently released more new events per year than rerun old events so there's a ripple effect in the turn around time of reruns as a whole. So UR events taking longer in comparrison to none UR events is more a byproduct of UR events only starting to rerun regularly in 2023 more than anything else . For instance, the next large event to be rerun is likely Emden and she liekly won't be rerun until after the CN Anni which will put the turnaround time for that event a few months over the 2 year mark at least.

[sweet delta]

it's musashi as solo damage

[steady beacon]

Another issue is that Angel of the Iris was the first non-CNY raid event since, I want to say the Crosswave rerun (the first one I can see from before I started) so Idt we have much in the way of recent data to really compare it to (if we insist on taking raid events as being special enough to be different from any other)
We have not had a single raid rerun since then, actually...

[undone plover]

with WA rate up no longer taking a week slot we could see more reruns but

[viscid swift]

WA drops weren't ever that frequent tbh, at most there 4 or 5 a year, at least for large events

[hardy skiff]

@viscid swift nah I took a look at some events that happened since then and UR do take slightly longer on average, it's relatively uncommon for a non-UR rerun to reach 2 years to rerun even in the last 2 years but it happened with 3 out of 4 UR reruns

[steady beacon]

I wouldn't use UR as the discriminator tbh lol
It's just that most recent events just happened to be UR

[viscid swift]

yeah but how many none UR events have rerun since NJ, there's been one and that's been on the smaller side and swapped order with Kronk's rerun to boot

[hardy skiff]

Shinano, NJ, Shima and Ulrich

are the reruns so far

[viscid swift]

I said non UR events

[sweet delta]

non

[hardy skiff]

oh a lot

[steady beacon]

Like, if we hypothetically replaced every UR event with an SR event, with the schedule as it is, the time for a rerun would still slow down as we observe it now

[viscid swift]

I mean since NJ's rerun, not her original run

because NJ's rerun was really when event reruns jumped past the 2 year mark consistently

[hardy skiff]

I'm not saying the schedule didn't slow down, I think it really did, but I does seem UR actually are even slower than the now slower schedule too

Shima and Ulrich also reached 2 year mark

[viscid swift]

I can see where you're coming from but I think the logic is flawed given how the data is skewed

like I said, NJ's rerun marked the point where event reruns consistently jumped past the 2 year mark, and we haven't had a none UR rerun since her barring Impero and that has its own caveats so you don't really have a good point of comparrision for the claim as of right now, but you will when Emden reruns which will on all likelihood confirm what I've said and disprove what you've said.

[south sequoia]

Can you guys bring this to #al-general since it's deviating a bit from gph

[hardy skiff]

@viscid swift I looked a bit more into the data and it seems that is indeed the case, seems you're correct, so raid events are still in the expected rerun timeframe too
no need now since we're done now, really I somehow overlooked some stuff and reached a wrong conclusion

[crisp estuary]

[blissful hamlet]

Raid event get rerun too?

Janus

[viscid swift]

As I said, we don't know since there's no good precedence

[steady beacon]

We haven't had a raid rerun in close to 3 years

[uneven cave]

Which raid event is janus from

[steady beacon]

Royal Maids 3

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fight_On,_Royal_Maids!_(Part_3)

[steady beacon]

Originally run in... October 2022 iirc

[uneven cave]

[fresh tangle]

So I’m very much new to the game and have a bunch of stuff. No idea what should go into my two fleets. Anyone mind helping me out?

[worldly pewter]

new and bunch of stuff ?

[fresh tangle]

Well not a bunch but not sure what ships are best where

[soft raft]

1. you dont think about doing a 2nd fleet until at least W9
2. Go read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[worldly pewter]

yeah start by understand the simple mechanix first

[fresh tangle]

I’m only on 2-2 but just want to know what ships should be in my fleet first

[fresh tangle]

Thanks

[soft raft]

you are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too early for a 2nd fleet 💀

[worldly pewter]

u stick with 1 fleet for until u reach w9 at least

then start thinking about doing a second one

[fresh tangle]

Ok so if I share what ships I got could someone let me know which ones to use?

[soft raft]

Look in the newbie guide for a example
Which all things considered is prob what you're gonna use for a while anyways

[soft raft]

As the newbie guide stated, get Unicorn, Pennsylvania, Helena, and Portland from guild shop

Then ig with your dock in consideration, Peensylvania/Unicorn/Long Island Portland/Laffey/Helena

[zenith peak]

How to EX
Im stuck kekw

[soft raft]

Git Gud at manual

not even joking

[zenith peak]

Can't, phone too weak, fps too low to manual 🗣️ 🔥

Oh wait i forgor i have it installed on memu

[fresh tangle]

Right applied to a bunch of guilds. Just waiting

[void turret]

what should I buy with harmonious emblems?

[soft raft]

you do not need to be in a guild to acess the guild shop

[soft raft]

There's a shop priority in the datamine in the pins

[fresh tangle]

Oh time to find that

[viscid swift]

use your usual UR BB fleet and auto

[zenith peak]

I hav no knowledge in fleet building 🗣️
I js throw random ship and go fuck it we ball

[left nest]

I have precisely 4 gold bulins, which ship is the 'best' one to uncap?

[viscid swift]

no one from that line up is particularly noteworthy

[soft raft]

At most like maybe Carl but that's it

[forest palm]

I see Carl

[viscid swift]

maybe Carl or Jervis depending on your options but

[soft raft]

You mean Jervis

[forest palm]

also are you spreading your bulins? cause like you really should focus one ship

[left nest]

i just used them all on the 'important' ones so these are the stragglers remaining

[forest palm]

SSRs are less valuable when they're not MLB, so focus 1 at a time instead of spreading them around, and have half assed LB ships is just wasteful

[left nest]

some of them i just got lucky in gacha and got dupes which explains some being half-lb'd

so i take it carl is the best one here

[forest palm]

that she is

[viscid swift]

well she's the only one who has a reasonable chance of being used

[soft raft]

she's sidelined by Anchorage and the CBs but overall out of everyone pictured, she generally has the most long term use

[plain saffron]

do we have a better fleet for CM now or the suchiguma one are the best

[left nest]

thx u

[forest palm]

Carl can match a VH-less Azuma, so that's something

[fresh tangle]

Alright cool just need to wait for a refresh for Pennsylvania and I’m good ty

[viscid swift]

you can refresh for 50 tokens

[soft raft]

^

[keen sable]

depends entirely on what you need but another tank doesn't seem to be it.

[hollow gust]

Well cvs better then bbs I what I know

[left nest]

Centaur would be a good use of bulins right....?

[hollow gust]

No not really

Way too much things that can do her job or better

[forest palm]

Centaur fell off in 2019

[left nest]

[forest palm]

there're just some SSRs that aged like milk, and Centaur is one of them

[left nest]

shame

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message I added a bb fleet, but as usual CVs are faster/stronger

[cloud fractal]

You can oath as many as you want, provided that you are willing to buy rings, right?

[fresh tangle]

Gonna make a new account. Didn’t spend any money but want to do this right 😂

Only pull even banners right?

Messed up the refresh on the guild shop too

[south sequoia]

Only pull event banners but do not always pull on event banners

[fresh tangle]

Noted

[sleek spade]

what gun to use for regular CL? 155mm or 155mm Kai? a lot of other options on the slaimuda tier list do not exist/are very expensive for me

[viscid swift]

155 kai

[forest palm]

Kai is always better in general

[viscid swift]

regular 155 is worse than poverty as a CL main gun

[sweet delta]

155 kai is only like 15% better than Regular 155

Regular is comparable to poverty tbtsk

[sleek spade]

tbf if I have enough ordnance reports to make kai then I might as well make the US CL gun I guess...

how come the reg 155mm so bad?

[sweet delta]

It has fixed spread

[fallow lark]

Does that mean that a fleet acting as escort would spend less and one as main more? What if I only have one fleet?

[sweet delta]

So usually only 4 out of 6 shells hit

[viscid swift]

Seattle Guns are just more expensive to craft and as CL main guns they're more or less the same performance wise the 155 kai is also useful as a BB aux gun in W14

[plain saffron]

fight mob, use mob cost, fight boss, use boss cost, it's on the enemy, not the fleet

[sweet delta]

It's by enemy, not by your fleet. You'll spend 10 entry cost + 20 times six mob battles + 30 times one boss battle

[fallow lark]

Ooohhh

[sleek spade]

tbf the only thing holding me back is ordnance reports. I got hundreds of the other necessary mats. I guess the dual use would be good

[soft raft]

it's bad as a CL main gun due to its fixed spread
on the other hand, it's good as a BB Aux gun since that fixed spread helps it catch Suicide boats that might've slipped through otherwise

[sleek spade]

ah I see

[fallow lark]

Btw, the Yamato gun still bad?

[viscid swift]

and those ordinance reports could be very valuable in about a month because gear lab update

[sweet delta]

It's still niche

[plain saffron]

it still have some niche uses as usual

[sleek spade]

oh shet what are we getting next month?

[viscid swift]

don't know, but better safe than sorry

[fallow lark]

Thanks

[sleek spade]

ahh guess it's time to stock up then. I still need to make a georgia gun and XF5U tho

[runic bolt]

how to clear this one? ive tried it on war archives and didnt work

[sweet delta]

Campaign hard

[runic bolt]

ah got it

[sleek spade]

btw do we have an idea of what faction is getting next UR? Did they do a rotational UR release in the past or do they just release it for whatever faction they feel like making lore on?

[plain saffron]

we have 0 idea

[sleek spade]

sad

[eager mulch]

carl is the best speculation we have

[sleek spade]

carl?

[elfin hollow]

i think jerivs is the best due to her healing

[viscid swift]

Freidrich Carl, that one German ship from the SP event in March

[sweet delta]

Friedrich

[forest palm]

given that they had removed Anderson due to backlash, and replaced her with Fredirch Carl implies she was in a finished enough state to be released, likely meaning she came from near event, that's the tin foil hat

[sleek spade]

ah I see

[sinful elk]

Chat what does the smash open in opsi usually lead to

[sweet delta]

Leads to saving time compared to using the energy storage device

[sleek spade]

wait. wasn't she SSR?

[sweet delta]

Ask #al-general for the connection

[sinful elk]

It wont affect the loot at all?

[sweet delta]

You don't get adapt tuning if you smash

[eager mulch]

smash > intercept > done with it

[sinful elk]

Those really matter or just nah?

[sweet delta]

Higher adapt = easier enemies, up to 203 adapts

[whole crypt]

if this is one of those grey chests you get loot anyway but wasting an ESD gives you a bit of adapts

[sleek spade]

probably matters if your fleet isn't very good but the amount is quite trivial. it can build up if you do it many times tho

[whole crypt]

was there ever any data collected if using the ESD gives better loot

why waste 5 vouchers for a tiny bit of adapts

[sleek spade]

yea the trade isn't very good

[sweet delta]

Because 5 vouchers is loose change

[whole crypt]

you also get enough adapts just repeating OS more, than losing 5 vouchers every time you use them

[sinful elk]

I should have known this earlier

[sweet delta]

Tell casual players to play more

[forest palm]

[whole crypt]

tell casual players to have excess vouchers

[forest palm]

Stig being dumb on this one

[sinful elk]

Oh and uh why my monthly login suddenly restart?

[sleek spade]

cus it's monthly. it reset every month...

[forest palm]

ya if you fall behind that's it

[sinful elk]

No i just reach the gold bulin and the next it is gone

[sinful elk]

I play 4hrs everyday

[whole crypt]

the monthly stamp resets 1st every month, even if you don't complete it

[sinful elk]

Ah that make sense

[whole crypt]

it only completes if you login everyday from 1st of that month

[sleek spade]

mmm this place will help you to become a dedicated shikikan

[sinful elk]

So is therr any other way to get a gold bulin than just weekly mission, medal and monthly login?

[sweet delta]

Merit shop

[keen sable]

Complete SP4 with 3 stars.

[sinful elk]

My fleet ain that strong to compete in exercise

[sweet delta]

Losing gives both merit and exp

[viscid swift]

you don't need to win to get merit

[sleek spade]

ah dont worry abt it. there are lots of ppl w meme fleets. just need to do a few and some will show up

[fresh tangle]

There we go much better

[keen sable]

shinano-chan

[sweet delta]

The only downside is having a low win% number on your profile which nobody looks at anyways

[fresh tangle]

Heh

[whole crypt]

you get more merit if you win but you still get merit if you lose
you might want to look for shit opponents to at least win a few for the lower ranks because rankups give a bigger bonus

also medal shop, but it's like 2 bulins each month and the same cost as a SR ship

[fresh tangle]

Instead of ?

[eager mulch]

Long Island

[keen sable]

long island

[fresh tangle]

Thanks folks

[hollow gust]

Also Helena middle

[sinful elk]

I already got captain but can't rank up more since ppl keep pushing me down lmao

Btw 9-1 clear will give an oil cap for all the stages?

[late flame]

imagine reading

[elfin hollow]

Impossible for EN

[keen sable]

ok but dc D4 better

[fresh tangle]

So only do one pull a day to store cubes for a good banned and focus on pushing campaign and retrofitting the fleet I have now?

[sleek spade]

yes

[whole crypt]

people only "push you down" because they climb higher winning, you don't lose points losing your fights or when someone wins you in their PvP matches

but yeh if you can get to captain that's fine, that's already a couple thousand more merit each season

[sinful elk]

Eh thats a rough way for a gold bulin

[worldly pewter]

no need to speedrun the game take it easy

trust me u will eventually catch up

[whole crypt]

it's not hard it just takes time

[worldly pewter]

on everything but coins

[unborn owl]

Is there a way to get this event trophies?

[icy mountain]

is it fine for me to buy this plane?

[plain saffron]

from core data shop? not really

[viscid swift]

don't, it's a waste of core data

[unborn owl]

I'd rather pick F7F

[icy mountain]

but i already have a white and black shell tho

[unborn owl]

Bought another one

[late flame]

do you have 3 of each?

[sleek spade]

wasn't it used to be good for AA?

[plain saffron]

there's better and cheaper option

[viscid swift]

well Flapjack then came along

[icy mountain]

whats that

[icy mountain]

no, cuz theres no ship in my dock to equip them

[sleek spade]

but Flapjack expensive

[viscid swift]

get 3 pairs then, you will eventually have 3 ships to put them on

[sinful elk]

We can only farm 30 core data each day so doesn't that gonna take a lot of time to buy stuffs in shop

[keen sable]

push

[sleek spade]

it's a US fighter in the gear lab

[unborn owl]

Better vf-17. And it just obtained from gear lab

[sinful elk]

Guh? Push what

[keen sable]

30 a day means you're doing 3H with L100 ships. push harder for more core data.

[opal stream]

ch13 drop 30 a run
you can do 3 a day

[unborn owl]

I my opinion : If you can auto bossing at 15-4, you might can also do auto at W13 hard

[sinful elk]

Man i just got to ch9

[sleek spade]

life will get much easier once you pushed to 12-4

[sinful elk]

So i got portland retro uni retro and what else should i retro too?

[opal stream]

your starter

[sleek spade]

sandy maybe. she'll be useful for ch12

[sinful elk]

Laffey is done javelin is almost

[viscid swift]

definitely not San Diego

[sleek spade]

how come?

[late flame]

expensive

[opal stream]

then you can stop doing retro for a while
unless you use nelson as well then retro her

[viscid swift]

an incredible amount of cost and oppurtunity cost for a ship that isn't that great

[sleek spade]

but big AA...

[viscid swift]

you won't need her AA for Chapter 12 so what you're left with a ship that does about as much as your starter for surface dps

[sleek spade]

go get independence in the shop I guess

[sinful elk]

Well i want to make great use of the hard mode so i would farm the blueprints needed for the ship i about to retro

[sleek spade]

independence strong

[opal stream]

im just gonna save coin for upcoming event

[sinful elk]

Uhhhh between her and the black & white shells which i priority first

[sleek spade]

[viscid swift]

shells first

[sleek spade]

did you get shells for this month alr?

[sinful elk]

Last month

[sleek spade]

if not then get shells

[sinful elk]

Okay

[keen sable]

you know you need to replace NJ and kronk with better ships

[sinful elk]

Ehh for example?

[sleek spade]

post dock

[viscid swift]

depends on what you have but Nelson, Helena, etc

[keen sable]

And if you go Nelson then you can't afford Indy so...

[sinful elk]

Bbs

[sleek spade]

[keen sable]

Nelsii

[sleek spade]

do u have enough mats for Nelson aug?

[late flame]

nelson what?

[steady beacon]

Hope you mean retro 👀

[sleek spade]

augment

oh wait, you're too new to unlock that aug weekly

[keen sable]

nelson doesn't have one...

[sleek spade]

wait I thought she had one

[sinful elk]

I have access to it

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Collections

[sleek spade]

ah wait it's the special aux gear I mistaken it that she has an aug my apologies lol

it's fine. double shell works

[steady beacon]

Ah you mean the Pennant
Thought I was losing my mind

[sleek spade]

ye lol

btw is Shimanto good for non AA-heavy content?

[steady beacon]

Sure
She has good damage, is almost unexpectedly bulky, and has a little utility for the vanguard

[sleek spade]

I just got her MLB but idk if I should throw the best gun on her or just the cope T6 research gun that goes w her skill

[keen sable]

you're not going to see her in meta showdown

[steady beacon]

Although, not like you can't just use something else, given y'know... newest PR and obtainment/development difficulties etc.

META Showdown
Did that enter consideration without my realising...

[sleek spade]

hmmm

[fresh tangle]

Who should I prioritise bulin on

[steady beacon]

Ehh... you mean "her" gun, the Twin 150mm Type 5 or whatever
You don't have to use it on her unless you need the AA
And even in W15 I didn't, despite the general wisdom

[keen sable]

what is non AA-heavy combat? Shimanto fleet works on all lower chapters. Doesn't really matter if she's not that great or not. so that leaves?

[sleek spade]

big boss dmg content like Opsi hard boss, EX Stage and such

low campaign chap and event stages are kinda trivial

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I've never seen anyone else use Shimanto for Arbiter... but... my experience says she can
But there are also other options probably more suitable in many cases...

[novel condor]

U can give it a test

[sleek spade]

Im looking for a CL that's not Sandy

[viscid swift]

there's no reason to use her in such content yes, and by the time you get to Shimanto you have better as a rule of thumb anyway

[silver lintel]

Rather run harbin in opsimob lol

[viscid swift]

why

[steady beacon]

I said anyone else... I have... used her in OpSi for Arbiter, so... that's exactly why I said she can...

[sleek spade]

I alr have ply tho. Im looking for sth else since I only have 2 CLs I use often rn and that's Ply and Helena

[novel condor]

Ah mb, had a moment

[viscid swift]

why do you need CLs specifcially

[sleek spade]

idk I wanna be able to dodge shit by not making a CA/CB heavy fleet

[steady beacon]

No particular need to restrict yourself by hull type, in building for Arbiter or indeed any other content
It's not about their type but what they do

[keen sable]

~~because plymouth is really good™ ~~

[sleek spade]

yea ply is REALLY GOOD!

[viscid swift]

well why dodge when you survive anyway by tanking through it

[novel condor]

Plymouth usually used in BB fleets right? Or I'm remembering it wrong

[novel condor]

Just do more damage so your tanks tank less

[sleek spade]

but unzen dies real quick

[viscid swift]

and if you're gonna go touhou and manually dodge everything may as well go DDs or something

[viscid swift]

that's an issue of Unzen being squishy not the vanguard being slow

[opal stream]

going faster wont save your fleet most of the time
if not by shells then ramming
slower fleets do more dmg cuz aiming will be more accurate

[silver lintel]

My unzen can tank strongholds wym

[sleek spade]

but strongholds ez clap...

[novel condor]

Mayhaps an underleveled or under geared Unzen

[sleek spade]

I need to be able to dodge the BS that is +50% dmg for Vanguard on Hard Arbiter

[steady beacon]

Perchance, was it... this month's Arbiter?
Because uh... almost anything dies quickly against that if you roll bad lol

[whole crypt]

going faster is how you die faster

[sleek spade]

[viscid swift]

you can't do that by making your fleet faster, that'll just get the fleet killed quicker if anything

[opal stream]

also adapts check

[sleek spade]

hmmm... fleet reform then

gimme sec

[steady beacon]

If all else fails 🕹️ works
Strength has like... 3 attacks you just have to remember to dodge

[whole crypt]

the problem with a faster vanguard in PvE is you usually end up just bumping into more bullets or ramming, rather than move out of the way

[opal stream]

-speed aux when

[keen sable]

first run on qem my arim vanguard rammed qem and died

[sleek spade]

looks ok? fourth fleet is crossfleet fleet

[steady beacon]

[whole crypt]

zoomies vanguard was fun

[sleek spade]

I don't have other UR BB so Owari will do for now

[viscid swift]

FDG is right there....

[sleek spade]

but her dmg is not very good on bosses tho

[whole crypt]

is that 2 mob fleets

[opal stream]

why does bro have 2 mob

[steady beacon]

... Said who 👀

[viscid swift]

compared to the other UR BBs yes

compared to an SR BB though

[sleek spade]

hmmm

[whole crypt]

if only shelling damage off the top of my head she shells harder than NJ?

[novel condor]

Is that 2 mob fleets I'm seeing wat

[sleek spade]

really? my FDG often does quite poorly

[novel condor]

What dev lvl is she and is she properly geared?

Mine does fine in opsi

[sleek spade]

switch to Champ gun for medium/heavy armour

[steady beacon]

Ehhh, by pure numbers probably something like that
Too lazy to dig up the charts
Also, frankly, I don't really care

[opal stream]

just proc fdg barrage 24/7 and she will do more than bz

[whole crypt]

FdG loses by accuracy and no luck, table/VG and FS helped that