Though it isnt exactly something you'd be using over toolbox
#gameplay-help
blissful atlas
idk just seems kind of weak compared to other defensive gear
undone plover
meta ship xp isnt capped by limit break right?
south sequoia
idk just seems kind of weak compared to other defensive gear
Well you're not exactly gonna slap a rudder on a dd, would you?
forest palm
meta ship xp isnt capped by limit break right?
no, there isn't
- there's a 30k daily limit
- new xp skill missions unlock per level
- upon level up limited xp skill missions are refreshed
soft raft
uh i think they meant ship XP not skill XP
forest palm
answer is still the same 
sage sluice
basically yes
vale spindle
meta ship xp isnt capped by limit break right?
Works the same as shipyard yes
soft raft
who do i get from ehre
Hood yup
and then everyone else is essentially tech point/fleet tech fodder
grand solar
Is the Prototype Triple 381mm worth anything or should Imjust not bother and destroy the gun that leads to it?
soft raft
Is the Prototype Triple 381mm worth anything or should Imjust not bother and des...
It's basically a more expensive 406 Mk6 that has to be +13 to be slightly better than it
grand solar
So not worth it then? I can destroy the 406mm gun that it evoles from?
soft raft
yeah go ahead
you're not gonna be missing much
grand solar
Thank you!
silk sphinx
For commissions auto pick priority, I’ve gotten to lv70 as the base level
So my question is, will it pick lbd ships in priority?
Cause otherwise I’ll rush getting bulins for that
Welp
keen sable
I shove vanguards into Chapter 1-9 hard mode. So that's 27 vans that won't be autopicked
whole crypt
you could unlock them until you LB them
auto retire won't pick them but you'll need to watch it when picking enhancement fodder
keen sable
I accidentally nuked my Birmingham dupe so yeah
eternal moth
If you choose not to use >level 1 it should still hide them
whole crypt
that's how I avoid having commissions pick my lv70 dupes 
silk sphinx
nice tips, thanks
wraith oyster
Help clearing w10
silver lintel
Alba archer flasher
fallow lark
Rlly?
forest palm
it's a small difference
fallow lark
I don't have alba tho, only the muse one
forest palm
Albacore is easy to get 
fallow lark
Yeah but I have to wait for the store to reset
Do I put them on a specific order or I just put them like whatever?
alpine crest
Just wondering whether Perseus or Unicorn is better for mob fleets? (both are at similar levels in my case)
viscid swift
Unicorn is much better when it matters and they're the same everywhere else pretty much
cobalt rapids
Do I put them on a specific order or I just put them like whatever?
albacore flag
alpine crest
I see
whole crypt
short answer Unicorn
long answer in any situation where Perseus might do better it doesn't matter
forest palm
simpler to say for majority of content you won't notice a difference till world 13 HM, world 14, and world 15 where the pressure is high, and a 40 sec CDR to the knee cap hurts Percy
cloud fractal
What are tech points? Specifically in relation to unlocking development for FdG?
viscid swift
/fleettech
odd rootBOT
cloud fractal
Sweet! Thanks mate!
elfin hollow
What are some best understandable obtainable planes for a cv like shinano
keen sable
What are some best understandable obtainable planes for a cv like shinano
What is an understandable plane?
terse sinew
Build Hindenburg first or Agir?
eager mulch
taking the top picks of ectl for shitnano is quite shit
sweet delta
understandable
hidden bobcat
what is good to use in the new Taurus challenge?
eager mulch
anti medium boss fleet, it’s just a damage check
elfin hollow
What is an understandable plane?
Like semi easy to obtain
hidden bobcat
so it's medium armor, I see.
eager mulch
shitnano’s gear, like all other ships, is situational
keen sable
tell us what you really think
undone plover
what is wrong with shinano 
eager mulch
keen sable
Like semi easy to obtain
Purple Corsair, Helldiver, Junkers is about as easy to obtain as you can get.
elfin hollow
Purple Corsair, Helldiver, Junkers is about as easy to obtain as you can get.
Yhamks
elfin hollow
~~tell us what you really think~~
she a good ur for beginners
damage is good with that one extra plane as well her barrage skill
opaque yacht
wasnt shinano really good
eager mulch
If you use her properly
atomic abyss
Unless he's referring to nano nano
wispy pendant
Looks like no tricks just do carriers for CM this month?
elfin hollow
If you use her properly
Here my set up
stark quiver
just dps
wispy pendant
battle ships do good too?
eager mulch
It’s literally just a dps check
wispy pendant
k, easy, i'll check it later
stark quiver
maybe, havent been able to do extreme version yet
elfin hollow
eager mulch
fighter aimed tb is definitely a shinano loadout of all time
eternal moth
Looks like no tricks just do carriers for CM this month?
I took Turtle's advice and just left it on manual and hit auto when you get 6 air strikes, and killed in aboout 5 minutes
wispy pendant
why wait?
cobalt rapids
eager mulch
able to fit in more damage into the vulnerability period
stark quiver
so u dont hit the funny sheield thing
elfin hollow
Good set up? Despite the levels?
wispy pendant
do you go back to manual inbetween the first 6 air strikes?
eternal moth
Good set up? Despite the levels?
You should be using either double TB, or rocket/TB, not plain fighter/TB
eager mulch
I’d use fighter/parallel TB in campaign
eternal moth
do you go back to manual inbetween the first 6 air strikes?
Yes, but you can literally just sit there and wait
alpine crest
I feel like I should probably replace Akagi with someone else at this stage
elfin hollow
You should be using either double TB, or rocket/TB, not plain fighter/TB
Show me the plane
eager mulch
I’d never touch fighter/Aimed TB
wispy pendant
got it, understood, i'll try that if I don't just auto it
cobalt rapids
I feel like I should probably replace Akagi with someone else at this stage
yes theres many better ships than akagi
at any stage
elfin hollow
yes theres many better ships than akagi
Taihou 
eager mulch
says the akagi simp 
eternal moth
Show me the plane
Is this for campaign, CM, OpSi, what?
elfin hollow
Is this for campaign, CM, OpSi, what?
Opsi
slow fox
omg it's renhex
elfin hollow
Does Takao's shield count the number of shots or the amount of damage?
eager mulch
omg it’s mebot
alpine crest
yes theres many better ships than akagi
I may need some examples though (I have a decent enough carrier collection)
slow fox
omg its tutetlr
stark quiver
Does Takao's shield count the number of shots or the amount of damage?
20k damage i think
wispy pendant
I love when mebot pretends to actually be a bot.
cobalt rapids
I may need some examples though (I have a decent enough carrier collection)
theres many just post ur dock in a thread its easier
eager mulch
20k damage but with a 90% damage resistance so effectively 200k
elfin hollow
That's a lot of damage.
cobalt rapids
ig independance as an example
alpine crest
theres many just post ur dock in a thread its easier
Will do.
stark quiver
20k damage but with a 90% damage resistance so effectively 200k
whats the time in between each funny shield
eternal moth
10s
stark quiver
elfin hollow
You should be using either double TB, or rocket/TB, not plain fighter/TB
Are u talking about the ju 87 w rockets?
eternal moth
Are u talking about the ju 87 w rockets?
Bf-109G
eager mulch
or HVAR
eternal moth
Or the fwocket, whatever that one's actually called
eternal moth
That's used for medium armor. HVAR is used for light armor, and double TB is best for heavy
eager mulch
swapping gear is too much work though, my shitnano is perma glued to ryuusei/tenrai/ryuusei in my haku/nano/implac fleet 
elfin hollow
So u want me to replace that American plane with a german one? Ah yes german technology is the best
wispy pendant
is there ever a situation you want hvar instead of bf-109Gs for medium?
Is there ever a reason you pick a different fighter than bf-109's for medium if you don't need intercept or AA?
eternal moth
Or HVAR which is also American
wispy pendant
okay, so only for USS equipment situations?
eager mulch
timing maybe
elfin hollow
Or HVAR which is also American
Show me the plane
viscid swift
doubtful, the 2 aren't that far off and you's sooner adjust the TBs
slow fox
/wiki HVAR
odd rootBOT
Bridal Z23
wispy pendant
Show me the plane
event limited, so if you don't have it, wait for a rerun
eager mulch
back to trains
elfin hollow
Alr alr then every cv with fighers with a bf 109 g is better
wraith oyster
Are the hevay / special pulls actually worth now since they have NJ and Shinano?
wispy pendant
Alr alr then every cv with fighers with a bf 109 g is better
no
eternal moth
As so many things in this game are, it's conditional
elfin hollow
Are the hevay / special pulls actually worth now since they have NJ and Shinano?
Do only light or event pools. Don't touch others.
wispy pendant
Alr alr then every cv with fighers with a bf 109 g is better
i suggest you go to #bot-spam type /guide click on sam's compendium, go to the gear guide, and start reading each of the gear pages to understand the situations
wraith oyster
Is there anything good in this current banner?
atomic abyss
Nope
eternal moth
Is there anything good in this current banner?
Next major event is likely a new UR, so unless you have well over 400 cubes I'd just do 1 light/day
cobalt rapids
random upgrades / 10
eager mulch
but does it sync
eternal moth
You want parallel TBs and regular fighters on mob CVs for one
keen sable
5 pirate yorkii 
elfin hollow
Suisei on Ark too...
atomic abyss
That's actually fine tbh
fallow lark
Does mini nano have a special interaction with the cow?
Apart from the the cow's special barrage
atomic abyss
Suisei on Ark is perfectly normal if anything
Cos she's a really slow carrier and the suisei speeds her up for syncing
Not like she's doing anything with it since it's 2x95% eff
eternal moth
Does mini nano have a special interaction with the cow?
Apart from the the cow's...
I'm pretty sure I saw something about that when the datamine came out, but I'm not certain
If you mean voice lines, I don't know
vale spindle
Does mini nano have a special interaction with the cow?
Apart from the the cow's...
nope
its the same stuff as big shinano
fallow lark
alpine crest
Carriers to replace Akagi for World 13
eager mulch
what lb level does implac get not dive bombers
wraith oyster
What gears are good to craft
soft raft
what lb level does implac get not dive bombers
If you mean unlocking her flex slot, MLB
eager mulch
makes sense
soft raft
What gears are good to craft
do /equip in #bot-spam for a general idea of what's considered good
flint scroll
is guam good in a boss fleet? or is she more for the mob fleet
eternal moth
Either
soft raft
She can do both
ultimately dependent on your needs depending on the content
flint scroll
She can do both
ultimately dependent on your needs depending on the content
well for my setup heres wha tim running
mob;
Ancho, Laffey 2, Yuudog
Boss
(probably guam over agir & azuma only bc they arent dev 30 yet) shima & kawa
soft raft
What content are you doing?
flint scroll
world 11
cobalt rapids
are ur URs mlb
soft raft
do it in a thread
flint scroll
cobalt rapids
then u can just throw guam in boss and the vanguards are fine till end of w13
flint scroll
ill do it once my auto sortie r done here in a sec
soft raft
then u can just throw guam in boss and the vanguards are fine till end of w13
(Or swap Ancho and Guam around)
flint scroll
ancho for boss? 
cobalt rapids
guam for boss
flint scroll
oh gotcha
soft raft
guam for boss
Out of curiosity, why?
Cuz Ancho is overall the 2nd tankiest tank
cobalt rapids
coz then aa carries are in both fleets and its relatively easy cruise till end of w13 like i said if theres proper backlines aswell
soft raft
Ah
fair
alpine crest
Finally finished posting the rest of the dock
sweet delta
Chk or Implac which has more medium damage per strike against non siren without skyraider?
vale spindle
probably chkalov but that assumes her barrage is hitting relevant non boss enemies
crisp estuary
dawn crest
A little question, is the following composition viable as a "Ryuusei" fleet?
Main: AvP, Shinano, Shoukaku
Vanguard: Kronshtadt, Ariake (Retrofit), Sirius
cobalt rapids
whats a ryuusei fleet
rocky fjord
if you mean "singletarget fleet" then it's good
dawn crest
whats a ryuusei fleet
converging Torpedo Bombers
rocky fjord
use junkers and saiuns when necessary
soft raft
we literally just call that a Opsi CV boss fleet
cobalt rapids
avp needs timing, if u use all ryuusei chances are it wont time correctly
plain saffron
that's why i use ark
dawn crest
avp needs timing, if u use all ryuusei chances are it wont time correctly
I already bought Homing Beacon, for this fleet.
cobalt rapids
as long as you timed correctly then its fine ig
rocky fjord
that could be suboptimal in some cases
atomic abyss
Definitely won't
cobalt rapids
by time correctly i mean each cv to be withing 0.03 to 0.2s to avp
atomic abyss
It depends on many many things
Fleet tech and cats can all butcher the calcs
Not to mention avp's own 12% rld buff
dawn crest
It depends on many many things
With the Formidable it works perfectly.
soft raft
That honestly doesnt say much when Formidable is basically a shittier AvP
dawn crest
i can use her too
atomic abyss
Formidable is just worse
dawn crest
hmm
opal stream
formi cant even hit her own airstrike properly
dawn crest
Should I wait for Implacable before, do this fleet?
cobalt rapids
they all need to be calced, none is plug and play
opal stream
cv isnt brainded like bb
atomic abyss
formi cant even hit her own airstrike properly
This
And I use Formi a lot so I know
atomic abyss
Should I wait for Implacable before, do this fleet?
Even with Implacable
You still need to plug the numbers into an airstrike calculator
And manually adjust stuff from there
dawn crest
I used it, AvP will launch about 1.2 seconds earlier than the others.
cobalt rapids
= unsync
dawn crest
What's the best timing and how to get it?
cobalt rapids
by time correctly i mean each cv to be withing 0.03 to 0.2s to avp
.
dawn crest
how to get this timing?
cobalt rapids
adjust planes and use timing aux like avimanjuu or beacon
and use an external tool like traneptora since ingame is fake ( sometimes )
plain saffron
well ingame is correct, it just doesn't include skills
cobalt rapids
or cats, or abs, or battle start delay
steady beacon
how to get this timing?
What boss?
What is your CV RLD tech? Cat RLD? And do you have Indy cross fleet?
Ngl, as someone who uses cranes more than most, I do not relish the thought of trying to make this work 
plain saffron
yes
sweet delta
whats a ryuusei fleet
The thing in Sam's fleet building guide
cobalt rapids
did turtle secretly made that template
dawn crest
What boss?
What is your CV RLD tech? Cat RLD? And do you have Indy cross fleet?
...
Heavy Cruiser boss in OpS, Indy?
sweet delta
I don't believe Indianapolis has a cross fleet so I guess it's independence
plain saffron
indy is nickname for other ship, independence is called indep
steady beacon
It seems I'm never breaking the nickname habit
soft raft
I honestly wonder why people keep calling Independence Indy despite the letter Y being nowhere present in her name
dawn crest
adjust planes and use timing aux like avimanjuu or beacon
If I use the same planes with the beacon, not counting the kittens, I don't have a single one that's good for CV, I can get close to that.
retrofit independence?
cobalt rapids
by adjust planes i meant mix and match (good) planes so they are close together not give em similar loadouts
steady beacon
retrofit independence?
Yes, because otherwise she doesn't have Supporting Wings
If you have Argus or Casa, they work also
But if you have neither, then I just need to remove the extra 4%
dawn crest
by adjust planes i meant mix and match (good) planes so they are close together ...
So I need new planes, I don't have a variation of them, it's basically the same for the most, I focused on farming my first 457mm, I'm lacking the other gears.
eternal moth
So I need new planes, I don't have a variation of them, it's basically the same ...
You can get pretty far with purples. Fighters: Hellcat/Corsairs, DB: Helldiver, TB: Barracuda/Tenrai depending on what you're doing
cobalt rapids
So I need new planes, I don't have a variation of them, it's basically the same ...
yes, its why we consider saiun and ju-87 sidegrades to ryuusei even though their dmg is slightly lower, its because their timing is slightly faster which allows u to shift timing between ur cvs which are also the most popular choice when shifting timing, since changing other types of planes usually means scuffing it
timing auxes which can both be gotten from coredata ( homing beacon and the manjuu with the plane ) are also good to have for this purpose but ull need a tool to see their effect
dawn crest
i see
steady beacon
I honestly wonder why people keep calling Independence Indy despite the letter Y...
Well, then feel free to explain why Indianapolis is nicknamed "Indy"...
cobalt rapids
coz portland calls her that
plain saffron
I honestly wonder why people keep calling Independence Indy despite the letter Y...
i think it just normal short name trait, people tend to make short name ends with y
like champy
steady beacon
So Portland is weird, got it
cobalt rapids
yes but every new player who sortied portland with sound will associate indianapolis with Indy
eternal moth
That's why I call her Indep instead of Indy
sweet delta
Just say full name
plain saffron
at least it's not pinamont
steady beacon
Evidently not me fsr
Genuinely wonder why, given that she did follow me to W13
eternal moth
~~at least it's not pinamont~~
God I hated that one.
steady beacon
Oh right, it's probably bc Independence did too...
dawn crest
I got a good timing in Airstrike calc, so I need to farm before it's perfect, so now what's the best way and fast way to farm a Wyvern?
plain saffron
do opsiren
steady beacon
Not much you can do apart from farming OpSi
Possibly for 2-3 months, from scratch, if you have already done the one-time loggers
More importantly, though, how bad was it that you have to use Wyverns to fix the timing
steady beacon
How many loggers do we have now
dawn crest
Not much you can do apart from farming OpSi
Possibly for 2-3 months, from scratc...
I can use Tenrai, but i need to buy another 12 pieces.
steady beacon
Tenrai is a DB in any case, so unless you're scuffing Shina's first slot for some reason, you won't swap it with Wyvern for anything
sweet delta
Buying another 12 pieces of tenrai is a good idea
eager mulch
12 tenrai bps
eternal moth
I just built up 3 more +13 Ryusei this morning, giving me 6
eager mulch
welcome to the gang
eternal moth
And it's all your fault turtle
steady beacon
I can use Tenrai, but i need to buy another 12 pieces.
Best I can see
Shoukaku: Bf109G/Tenrai/Saiun
AvP: Bf109G/Tenrai/Ju-87
Shinano: Ju-87/Tenrai/Saiun
Looks acceptable enough
I hate that Ju-87 in Shinano's slot 1 but I ultimately gave up trying to make Bf109G work in slot 1
Also I'm probably assuming way more planes than you have available
dawn crest
Best I can see
Shoukaku: Bf109G/Tenrai/Saiun
AvP: Bf109G/Tenrai/Ju-87
Shinano: J...
I plan to use the BF, Tenrai, Ju-87 prototype in the end, but it takes a long time to get the parts in the research.
dawn crest
Best I can see
Shoukaku: Bf109G/Tenrai/Saiun
AvP: Bf109G/Tenrai/Ju-87
Shinano: J...
i will copy and save this
steady beacon
Oh and I'm assuming equal affinities
Idk if that is an accurate assumption
umbral bane
is this build good ?
opal stream
maybe
umbral bane
really ?
eager mulch
It works for medium now that I realize, but only medium
umbral bane
i see
eager mulch
Too busy playing wows, I’m distracted
steady beacon
Ngl, it works for heavy if you don't care about her equipped fighter slot damage...
sweet delta
Confetti gun would work for anything if you don't care about her main gun damage
cobalt rapids
it works for light if you dont care about her equipped gun slot damage
plain saffron
it works
umbral bane
Ngl, it works for heavy if you don't care about her equipped fighter slot damage...
should i change fighter then ?
steady beacon
Who are you fighting exactly
umbral bane
ehh i don't know just hear people say that plane is good....
plain saffron
good againts light armor yes
steady beacon
Well, HVARcat is a rocket fighter, so it's primarily used for single-target against light bosses
And as implied above, you can use it against medium as well
umbral bane
what about heavy then
sweet delta
Is this a one-time message?
steady beacon
Its modifiers against heavy are crap, so... unless you forget to change or just plain don't care about the plane damage, it's usually advisable to use something else
plain saffron
Is this a one-time message?
yes
frank pulsar
what about heavy then
for heavy youre better off using a 2x1000lb bomb fighter instead of a rocket fighter
plain saffron
most people prob skip it then wonder why 5k logger doesn't work next month
plain saffron
:portmelt:
umbral bane
for heavy youre better off using a 2x1000lb bomb fighter instead of a rocket fig...
thx
willow crag
whats the use of these
steady beacon
Spawns hidden zones
willow crag
ah
steady beacon
And Abyssal zones for the two on the right
willow crag
btw what does the game mean by clear the zone to auto a node
cobalt rapids
can you show pic
steady beacon
btw what does the game mean by clear the zone to auto a node
In Operation Siren...?
willow crag
In Operation Siren...?
uh Ill do it later, Opsi is running right now
how do I stop strategic search
cobalt rapids
click to move or click the search button
night pumice
how useful is mini shinano for an earlygame player
cobalt rapids
decently useful
willow crag
I bought one of the loggers with 5k oil, but isnt it supposed to give me like rewards? I got nothing of such
cobalt rapids
enty placeholder for starterfleet if ure not lucky on medal rotation
decent dmg cv for when ure building 2nd fleet and lack better options
cobalt rapids
I bought one of the loggers with 5k oil, but isnt it supposed to give me like re...
go to storage and use it in inventory
steady beacon
Ngl I've never bought that before but uh
Don't you have to use it?
cobalt rapids
Is this a one-time message?
wheres the continuation
willow crag
what storage
cobalt rapids
steady beacon
what storage
willow crag
oh that storage
cobalt rapids
hood for use in either fleets, rest for tech
cloud fractal
Wait, so none of the units from this event banner were any good? Bad time to start this game. 😂
cobalt rapids
its a good time because it means u can stock ur cubes
not like u get any pulls frontloaded on new accs
plain saffron
you started 1 month before new UR release so i would say good time
soft raft
nagato?
She primarily relies on being with IJN Carriers to be any good, and the IJN Carriers worth a damn in the long term dont really give a shit about her
icy mountain
hood for use in either fleets, rest for tech
but warspite retro would fit in a boss fleet with enty right?
atomic abyss
Lol no
icy mountain
sad
cobalt rapids
warspite retro isnt worth the retro
atomic abyss
^
soft raft
but warspite retro would fit in a boss fleet with enty right?
she hasnt been relevant since like 2019
icy mountain
was wondering if theres any bb here that would compliment with enty in a budget boss fleet
atomic abyss
If there's anything Warspite works with
It's HMS BB comps with Howe and Vanny lul
cobalt rapids
boss fleet for what
eager mulch
actually, warspite works well with the ships in the dock
atomic abyss
was wondering if theres any bb here that would compliment with enty in a budget ...
Well I won't say there aren't any that work with enty
The ones that are just not worth getting
cobalt rapids
hood and nelson are easily accesible early bbs that are very good
fdg is ur premier bb option once u coin her to d30
icy mountain
boss fleet for what
im planning to create a budget boss fleet for opsi and for world 11
icy mountain
ohh guess i wont be building boss fleets for opsi in the mean time
cobalt rapids
the use nelson kai / hood, and for now just stick to generic mob/boss fleets for opsi since i doubt ur dock support any specialized fleets
icy mountain
since im almost done developing roon i just need one more task done im just planning to build a boss fleet
willow crag
whats the level of enemies of corrosion 6 nodes on OpSi?
cobalt rapids
112
slow fox
I think 112
Sorry renhex
cobalt rapids
mby its 112-116
steady beacon
2-star 112, 3-star 114
And the mixed/boss fleets, whatever they're called 118
slow fox
Omg Renhex was right
willow crag
Im getting this prompt when I try to strategic search repeat this zone
cobalt rapids
oh it detects you to be in explorable or smth idk, u have to go to overview and reselct zone to secured then clear again and then strategic search it
icy mountain
what are the odds of me getting shinano if i pull a 10x in the heavy banner right now?
rain vine
very low
do not do it
icy mountain
very low
do not do it
cobalt rapids
they should be 0 since u shouldnt pull on heavy banner right now
silk sphinx
opsi boss fleets are all either 3 bb or 3 cv
Surprised people would say this…
icy mountain
i mean i have like 375 cubes im pretty tempted to do a one x10 right now
eager mulch
one bad UR event and ur fucked
cobalt rapids
even if u get shinano shes useless without mlbs
eager mulch
even if u get shinano shes useless without mlbs
literally shitnano
willow crag
now since Im doing repeat zone I should not use any AP right??? or am I wrong
rain vine
you need 400 to guarantee a UR build
thats not guaranteeing everyone else on the banner
viscid swift
even if you got Shinano do you even have the bullins to limit break her
silk sphinx
It’s about 9% chance of actually hitting pity though
cobalt rapids
now since Im doing repeat zone I should not use any AP right??? or am I wrong
it costs ap each time u enter a new secured zone, same as if u were to manually reenter the zone
silk sphinx
But the problem is that you might want to pull for other banners, and if you go broke or nearly for one the next won’t be fun either
willow crag
it costs ap each time u enter a *new* secured zone, same as if u were to manuall...
then how were my guildmates able to grind a stage for overnight?
steady beacon
what are the odds of me getting shinano if i pull a 10x in the heavy banner righ...
Provided I haven't done a big dum dum
But here is where you should put straight probability aside and consider a host of other factors to convince yourself against this course of action...
viscid swift
then how were my guildmates able to grind a stage for overnight?
strategic search and opening a bunch of AP boxes at once
cobalt rapids
then how were my guildmates able to grind a stage for overnight?
they stockpile tons of boxes, pop em all at once, get like 6k ap and then go to town
eager mulch
hood is the only good one, everyone else is tech/collection
cobalt rapids
you mean medal rotation ? hood > tech, yes tirpitz good for fdg tech
patent walrus
Tirpitz then
willow crag
they stockpile tons of boxes, pop em all at once, get like 6k ap and then go to ...
oh thats how... how do you stockpile boxes
eager mulch
you get boxes and you dont use them
cobalt rapids
oh thats how... how do you stockpile boxes
basicly just play through opsi everyday without using boxes and just using natural regen, and then wait till last day
but theres no benefit to running it all at once
silk sphinx
Just use them when you have time
rain vine
you do not want to be in a situation where you have 1k+ ap and you have 3 hours left until reset
silk sphinx
Save some since abyssals or stronghold cost quite a bit
But overall no need to save too much, just clear when you have time
By the by, since when was medal ss a thing?
Is this the first time it’s happened to amagi?
rain vine
By the by, since when was medal ss a thing?
for a few weeks now
popped up a few times on avrora
rain vine
dunno, i dont keep track of this
i know its popped up at least once
cobalt rapids
added since january
steady beacon
It is the first time on Amagi, yes
forest palm
was anything thrown into the core shop this month?
plain saffron
afaik no but they fixed the orders
runic bolt
is this event worth pulling?
eager mulch
no
runic bolt
collection only?
hollow gust
collection only?
just get shinano-chan and you are set
plus eugen is obtainable in shop
hushed dawn
How useful is the Harmony u ticket?
normal crane
What to do with meowfficer dupe?
atomic abyss
What to do with meowfficer dupe?
Enhance your other meowfficers with them
stone sluice
Alba archer flasher
Really? Better than the Wolfpack (I forgot the name of the subs)?
atomic abyss
How useful is the Harmony u ticket?
Not particularly useful
hushed dawn
Oof.
soft raft
Really? Better than the Wolfpack (I forgot the name of the subs)?
by a small enough margin that it doesnt really matter if you already started raising wolfpack
normal crane
Enhance your other meowfficers with them
What about SR dupe?
atomic abyss
Really? Better than the Wolfpack (I forgot the name of the subs)?
Yes, they are better
However, if you have your wolfpack raised and already
Just stick with em lol
atomic abyss
What about SR dupe?
Then enhance the original SR copy
normal crane
Thankies
stone sluice
I keep my wolfpack subs 
steady beacon
The solution is have wolfpack, American, and unaffiliated submarine fleets
Jokes aside, I do want to point out that higher ceiling isn't all the Americans have going for them
But in terms of effort/resources expended for those advantages, you can well argue it's not worth it when you already have one sub fleet raised
frosty dust
Is the cruise pass worth
viscid swift
completely up to you
forest palm
suffice to say the top 3 sub fleets currently have a marginal difference between one another
steady beacon
The worth of any paid item can only really be judged by you
willow crag
I know they have different classes and use cases, but who is more useful, Hindenburg or Kearsarge
so I know who to spend my blueprints on
forest palm
Hinden is more plug, and chug 
atomic abyss
Hinden imo
steady beacon
I know they have different classes and use cases, but who is more useful, Hinden...
Do you have Yorktown II?
willow crag
Do you have Yorktown II?
yes I do
steady beacon
Well, there's also an argument you can use her in BBs, but uh... anyway
I personally keep YII as the discriminator for Kear's value
willow crag
how so
steady beacon
Yorktown II and Kear are basically a match made in heaven for synergies
steady beacon
If you have Yorktown, I would therefore prefer Kear
But I mean, what was said above remains quite true
Hinden is just easier to use
willow crag
how do you even use Hinden, do you just plug and play
viscid swift
she's the highest damage vanguard in the game
you use her when that comes in handy and you don't need anything else from a vanguard
sweet delta
Which is not very often 
dense kettle
Is Algerie worth raising or nuh uh?
steady beacon
Is that why I never even developed her? No, but anyway
Put two CA guns on her and just let her shoot, that's pretty much it
atomic abyss
Is Algerie worth raising or nuh uh?
Nope
steady beacon
Is Algerie worth raising or nuh uh?
Probably not, unless you just have a glut of resources that are sitting around
atomic abyss
There are better Frenchies really
forest palm
she's...I think +FP...
viscid swift
she's CA FP so...
steady beacon
Well, if you care about fleet tech, I hope you have that aforementioned glut of resources
timid rain
Do we have a list of DD ships who can equip CL guns? I really want to use this gun in full potential.
steady beacon
Do we have a list of DD ships who can equip CL guns? I really want to use this g...
It's easy, there are only TWO you should use them on
Otto and Felix
viscid swift
it's just a few IB DDs
timid rain
sweet delta
Otto and Felix are the only DDs who prefer a CL gun
viscid swift
Type 1936a Class, Felix, and Otto
timid rain
Type 1936a Class, Felix, and Otto
Got it, thanks!
sweet delta
And quad 152 beats this gold gun for DDs too
steady beacon
Plygun too broken
sweet delta
It's so good, can't imagine having only one or two plyguns
steady beacon
Indeed; thank God my Tenrai is done so I can fail to get another Plygun before PR7 drops
flint scroll
perseus is available in special across all server now right?
steady beacon
She is
Oh uh... actually, I shouldn't pretend to know TW/KR archiving schedules...
Def in the main three, but I can try and look up latter two if you want to know about that
strange fable
Any updated meowfficers guide?
steady beacon
Apart from Riceist's one?
strange fable
Riceist is also fine, where can i find it again?
soft raft
perseus is available in special across all server now right?
she is (at least for CN, JP and EN) but I wouldnt reccomend hard pulling perma special for her
Esp when Unicorn is right there
steady beacon
Tbf he probably did update it somewhat recently, since "cat update is a lie"
strange fable
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide
Appreciate it
silver lintel
Is unzen tankier than hindy
steady beacon
Apparently so, even if that honestly blows my mind
Evidently, what I attempted to calculate when Unzen released was just plain wrong
This is why I need a Mebot, and not a calculator
forest palm
isn't Unzen around Portland
eager mulch
until you remember they’re both about as tanky as portland
cloud fractal
Is there a rapid way to get FdG? Read something about Roon making it easier to access her development, but what do y’all think?
steady beacon
Well, at a certain point, one gets into quibbles over half percentage differences
Is that a good use of one's time? Who knows, but one gets into those quibbles anyway
steady beacon
Is there a rapid way to get FdG? Read something about Roon making it easier to a...
It's certainly a common way
Plus getting Roon also allows you to complete the rookie missions for research
And KMS tech is so damn hard to get usually that you will happily take any sources, if you want to rush FDG
forest palm
it's a marathon not a race
cloud fractal
~~it's a marathon not a race~~ <:NurnNom:1023947331344793620>
Not looking to race per se. Looking to optimize. I’m a medium spender, but I’ve had reasonably great luck thus far. So I’m trying to optimize a fleet with what I have while working towards FdG.
cloud fractal
It's certainly a common way
Plus getting Roon also allows you to complete the ro...
I did manage to get Roon. I went for her first.
steady beacon
Ngl if you want FDG reasonably early on, you have two options
- Luck a new KMS event for backliners
- Use a kinda bad KMS backline, regardless of the waste of resources
forest palm
money kind of gets you nowhere in this game, in fact it can put you in a much worse situation than you started
steady beacon
Granted, if it's something like Bismarck and Tirpitz at least, that's FP+2 each, so I wouldn't call them a straight waste in the long run...
And there probably will one day be another occasion to do German CV memes with Bismarck...
mint flint
theres no such thing as too much dockspace
cloud fractal
I mean, if I’m going for personal taste, I’m going for Agir and Hindenburg. I’m okay with it taking a while, but FdG seems to be the prio in the Shipyard.
steady beacon
She's the prio among DRs because you can use coins to develop her, unlike Agir and Hindenburg (among others)
eager mulch
you really like your kms ships huh
steady beacon
And coins are... much easier to get than the damn DR blueprints...
atomic abyss
Not to mention
If you can't unlock FDG you probably can't unlock Agir and Hinden anyways
wind hazel
buying the lv70 commander pack probably the most "rapid" way of reaching FdG
atomic abyss
Yeah lmao
wind hazel
but you'd still need your KMS ships
eager mulch
FdG speedrun any%
cloud fractal
That was the first purchase tbh.
eager mulch
step 1: lv 70 pack, step 2: divergent chessboard
steady beacon
Sometimes I think I need to start a fresh account to truly understand the modern newbie experience
eager mulch
I don’t want to go back to the dark ages
cloud fractal
<:Noteshiro:911039555904368650> Sometimes I think I need to start a fresh accoun...
I’ve found there’s a lot of shortcuts available, and not enough explanation. So you end up with what @forest palm was saying and potentially worse off spending money then leaving well enough alone.
plain saffron
money kind of gets you nowhere in this game, in fact it can put you in a much wo...
buy lvl70 pack, all gear pack, pr packs, easy boost on start
forest palm
Naga the keyword is can
sullen creek
How is that putting you in a worse situation tho
forest palm
not will
warm flax
who should I drop for CM: Soyuz, NJ, UvH, Ply, Agir, Helena
plain saffron
gets you nowhere
steady beacon
I agree with that on the Level 70 pack, at least
Since I feel taking that particular shortcut will make you miss out on quite a few lessons that you would otherwise have learned if you had ground everything out to reach that level naturally
But that may be just because I learned a lot of stuff in this game by just straight up blundering through
forest palm
> gets you nowhere
kind of
plain saffron
pr packs prob make them not know how to farm pr ships but they will learn eventually, gear packs just give you few gears, need to learn eventually, it's like using gear boxes
cloud fractal
For me, I put a fair bit of materials into ships that don’t have cohesion. And the lesson of MLB is typically superior to higher rarity not MLB.
plain saffron
they don't read the missions anyway so is there any differences between buying and not buying
only level70 pack is kinda problematic yeah
steady beacon
who should I drop for CM: Soyuz, NJ, UvH, Ply, Agir, Helena
Uh... dropping for who
cloud fractal
I did more than that. I have a fairly robust dock for less than a week.
forest palm
people would need some level knowledge of gear for those boxes, otherwise they're buying shit like the twin 380, or a twin 76. I agree that those purchases are useful in the long term, but people can just as easily screw themselves over without doing research of any kind
plain saffron
that's what whaling guides should be for
but nobody make one so
but even though you bought wrong one you just lose money, doesn't fuck your account like gems
cloud fractal
If you’re gonna whale, you need to either do the hw and figure it out, or be content with struggle bussing.
forest palm
cause outside of outfits, whaling in AL is a foreign concept 
plain saffron
and that's exactly why people don't make one
then people say don't whale the packs
slow fox
What Nyagami doing in SouthEastAsia
plain saffron
don't buy packs because it can be bad, bds no guide
no guide bcs nobody make it
bcs whaling packs can be bad
wind hazel
$ give you advantage, no contest 
forest palm
then pioneer one
cloud fractal
I’m typically content with whaling and just going for collection, but I kind of paused to peruse what’s better and where I need to focus resources. So I have my fleet that’s just brute forcing the early game, but I’m trying to identify a real fleet with what I have.
plain saffron
i'm bad at making guide and gph said buying packs can be bad so why should i make one 
steady beacon
OH
Nagami's melting in Southeast Asia...
Explains the lack of "the"
forest palm
because that attitude only further facilitates the problem, and continues the stagnation
plain saffron
plain saffron
What Nyagami doing in SouthEastAsia
i'm burning
slow fox
because that attitude only further facilitates the problem, and continues the st...
I'll make guide on why buying pack is good.
So you guys can link to it and say it's bad.
"Just do the opposite of what this guide says."
forest palm
ice bath challenge time
steady beacon
I'll make guide on why buying pack is good.
So you guys can link to it and say ...
Could you make a guide on whether buying a lucky bag is good, according to the probability of getting a skin I want?
Too lazy to calculate myself
cloud fractal
RNG for cosmetics = bad. There’s the guide
forest palm
I mean a fair guide on the purchasable gear, the value to effectiveness, and so on would be useful
fervent hearth
slow fox
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cloud fractal
Coming from a mid-sized whale 🤣
plain saffron
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eternal moth
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Damn, best guide ever, 10/10
steady beacon
Is farming PR5 for plygun more worth than farming for hindy gun
All things being equal, and having at least one of each, I would personally say so, yes
But I am also a CL believer and use like 2 CAs these days...
slow fox
Damn, best guide ever, 10/10
I have a review section now.
forest palm
there's certainly higher demand for Quad 152
gleaming olive
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tysm ehp man
frank pulsar
yall use cl? the only cl i use is ply nad shimanto 
forest palm
please I need my BB shiny stat stick 
steady beacon
I'm a weirdo who plays PvP and believes in torpmemes, what do you expect
+65 FP for the BBs I don't even use is also welcome tbf
uneven cave
You're telling me you don't use the strongest CL, Purple Heart?
atomic abyss
...speaking of which
Has anyone (frontline) actually beaten PH in terms of a single barrage's damage
Cos PH truthfully had a really nutty barrage
Except it only procs once per battle, at like 90s
slow fox
Who is PH?
PortHand?
atomic abyss
Purple Heart lmfao
cloud fractal
Who is PH?
PortHand?
PHub
slow fox
Straight to Hornyjail
atomic abyss
slow fox
Yeah, there's literally an admin here. No bad jokes.
viscid swift
wow that is nutty
steady beacon
OOf, 386x18
soft raft
steady beacon
Shame it literally cannot work for any boss
But anyway
atomic abyss
The main caveats of that barrage is that it only procs once, super late into the battle to the point you almost compromised your S rank
soft raft
Damn that's crazy
atomic abyss
But yes, those are absolutely ridiculous multipliers
steady beacon
No, the multipliers look fine
For weird multipliers, please see Tamaki
The damage is incredible, though
viscid swift
scylla's are like 1/3 but they proc much much more often
atomic abyss
The Neptunia Collab ships are mostly memes yes, but a lot of the gimmicks they used ended up appearing in later ships
steady beacon
Conspiracy Theory: RodM's "final shot" is just copying Purple Heart 
atomic abyss
Like for example
Main gun shots ignore enemy armor type. Armor modifier is 105% (115%).
steady beacon
That is Kitakaze is it not?
atomic abyss
This is Black Heart's skill actually
steady beacon
Oh, naruhodou
atomic abyss
Main Gun's ammo type is changed to Normal with 100/100/100 (115/115/115) modifiers. If equipped with an IJN (Sakura Empire) DD Gun: increases Main Gun efficiency by 5% (15%).
This is Kitakaze's
steady beacon
Ah yes I forgot ammo type change plus efficiency increase as well
atomic abyss
And this is Kawakaze's
This ship's Torpedo DMG is unaffected by the enemy's Armor Type. Changes this ship's Torpedo ammo modifier to 100% (115%).
steady beacon
But your point is that Kita was predated on the modifier change by some random collab ship
atomic abyss
I mean it's a genuinely decent skill on a very bad ship
Another example would be this
Each hit with the main gun increases own torpedoes' critical strike chance by 0.6% (1.5%) (stacks up to 20 times, effect resets after torpedo lauch).
forest palm
Basically devs cooked, took the leftovers, said they could use that elsewhere, here we are
atomic abyss
Now that's is... Actually quite an insane skill lmao
steady beacon
Ngl, while we're there... did we have lasers before the Arclight collab...
I almost want to say that they inaugurated lasers, and as a result we now have BisZwei...
forest palm
I want to say a ship from uteware, but it's been a hot minute since I've seen those ships active
steady beacon
Another example would be this
> Each hit with the main gun increases own torped...
And these days, we have a ship who has +50% torpedo crit rate without even having to fire her gun
atomic abyss
I mean utawawerumono collab never ran in EN so
steady beacon
I wonder if CN wiki has them... let me see
atomic abyss
I did check them
They ain't good ships
Basically any Collab ship pre-dating Kizuna Ai was complete garbage
Even with Kizuna, they were middling at best
steady beacon
Holy shit, one of them has a chase pattern barrage
atomic abyss
The BB Kizuna being the most notable one, and CA Kizuna being a gold rarity Portkai
forest palm
Hololive, and Kizuna Ai ships were useful for their time
FBK, and Aqua still have some relevancy
viscid swift
Hololive sub was pretty good as I recall
atomic abyss
Minato Aqua is still pretty decent as a submarine yes
And not-kawakaze-fubuki was decent too
Aviation DD lmfao
steady beacon
Damn, truly, seeing some of these barrages... I realise that some of the best modern barrages have way deeper roots than I ever suspected...
forest palm
Ya I remember Utaware ships being wild visually
forest palm
Aviation DD lmfao
Just slap a tenrai on her, and go
atomic abyss
Like iirc, a portion of Tosa's barrage is just an upgraded version of BB Kizuna's
fallow lark
Who should I MLB? Unzen, laffey, Ulrich, Kron or Shima?
atomic abyss
In a vacuum, probably Laffey II
steady beacon
Tbf iirc it went the other way once too
Doesn't Honoka have a near clone of Riche's barrage
atomic abyss
But usually it depends on what other URs you already have, and if you even have the rainbow bulins
steady beacon
... Actually, wait... did Riche or Honoka come first
I wasn't even here, so I might be wrong in assuming that
viscid swift
Doa was 2019 yes?
fallow lark
But usually it depends on what other URs you already have, and if you even have ...
I wanted to do Ulrich so I can put her with NJ and FdG
atomic abyss
viscid swift
Then Honoka was first
forest palm
Laffii > Unzen > Shima > Kron ~ Ulrich
atomic abyss
I...don't think Ulrich works particularly well with NJ or FdG
viscid swift
Actually DOA was 2020 so Richi was first
forest palm
Ulrich is an odd duck tbh
fallow lark
I...don't think Ulrich works particularly well with NJ or FdG
Honestly I'm just building whatever for the remaining 2 teams in Op siren
atomic abyss
silver lintel
Do i need vanguard to be able to 4 salvo bb in 80s fight?
fallow lark
Honestly I'm just building whatever for the remaining 2 teams in Op siren
Since I already have a BB team and a CV team
viscid swift
If you have the other uR bbs then UvH is a cross fleet bot
steady beacon
I...don't think Ulrich works particularly well with NJ or FdG
To be fair, that WAS the meta BB fleet for a few months at one point, long ago
But that's also because that's all we were stuck with back then
viscid swift
For which she does not need to be MLB
atomic abyss
...that's what my UvH is doing now tbh
atomic abyss
To be fair, that WAS the meta BB fleet for a few months at one point, long ago
B...
Actually, how does her damage fair compared to her rainbow compatriots
steady beacon
UvH? She's fine
But she can be a bit... hmmmmm... idiosyncratic
viscid swift
She's towards the bottom but She's no slouch
She keeps up even with half her shots not syncing
forest palm
Being at the bottom in the top is still good enough
But ya I feel Ulrich is in a similar situation to Kron
viscid swift
And unlike NJ and FDG who just get benched if you have bettere UvH stills sees use
steady beacon
There's a hmmm... thorny calculation thing over the half sync problem
Her use cases these days are more dictated by weird boss gimmicks than anything
Like Repulse META was gift-wrapped for her, at least at the time...
forest palm
I have forgotten when I last used Ulrich, NJ is working in my Ops Mob 
atomic abyss
No SR BBs that match her?
forest palm
Owari comes close
viscid swift
Owari only just matches FDG
fallow lark
I wanted York, independence and Monty to be the bot team
viscid swift
We're still a ways off from SR bbs getting that strong
fallow lark
I mean a part of it
steady beacon
No SR BBs that match her?
Well, they can't replicate her absolutely precious cross-fleet barrage, so I will say no
forest palm
Ya Owari is a hell of an outlier
atomic abyss
steady beacon
Conspiracy theory: Owari was the secret second UR of that event
forest palm
Possible
atomic abyss
I have forgotten when I last used Ulrich, NJ is working in my Ops Mob <:ThinkZe...
I can tell you when I last used mine: AvP grind in Mar 2024
Ironically, I think UvH is one of my highest levelled stuff
There's just too little German backliners that are actually "just strong"
It's either they're really good or really bad
fallow lark
Maybe I can make a thread and yall help make sense what I should do for my last 2 teams?
steady beacon
Sure
fallow lark
Idk how to make one tho
silver lintel
Im running uvh flag in 14-4 auto farm boss fleet, her crossfleet is nice
steady beacon
Uh... hover mouse over one of your messages and click the thread icon...
At least on PC, Idk on phone
fallow lark
Found it
steady beacon
I can tell you when I last used mine: AvP grind in Mar 2024
Ironically, I think ...
Probably a symptom of a good percentage of their recent backliners being rainbows of various kinds tbf
Their last gold backliner being almost two years old now...
elfin hollow
what is the next event after this
steady beacon
In theory the CN anniversary big event, if they don't sneak something random and unexpected in between...
As for what's in it, we don't know just yet
elfin hollow
In theory the CN anniversary big event, if they don't sneak something random and...
imagine if they decide to put a section of gacha of urs but it cost 100 cubes to spin a gacha of every event based urs but limited
steady beacon
Why would I bother when I already have them all 👀
elfin hollow
Why would I bother when I already have them all 👀
I have only half of them I am missing guam laffy bismark zweri the other UR german main bb ship ur ship mushai
fallow lark
Op siren teams
viscid swift
The jp patch notes mentioned they were adding Augs next update which is typically done during a dead week
steady beacon
Yep
viscid swift
So the likelihood of anything happening in the week after this event is nil
steady beacon
Also something about making some little ships perma
elfin hollow
The jp patch notes mentioned they were adding Augs next update which is typicall...
which do you think it will be next? hopefully it enterprise ngl
steady beacon
They pick augments by throwing darts blindfolded at the wall, so hope... is futile lmao
And with their track record, they also completely mess up augments at random, so I would put zero hope
elfin hollow
is there a link for ideals opsi fleets?
(of what ships to use not gear Ik what gear i am going used)
steady beacon
Many ways to skin the cat (a phrase I am not allowed to use)
There isn't really a single ideal OpSi fleet
In some sense, I'd even argue building it yourself is more valuable than just copying... it's a good exercise in really putting to the test everything you've learned about fleetbuilding...
But if you want to copy, there's definitely stuff on CN wiki at least...
hollow gust
is there a link for ideals opsi fleets?
well there are fleets that would probaly work best but can you copy it is the question
elfin hollow
well there are fleets that would probaly work best but can you copy it is the qu...
i think so
I just missing Hakuu and plymouth and brest
hollow gust
1)Eagle/Avp Light
2)Eagle/Avp Med
3)Eagle/Imp Light
4)Eagle/Imp Med
PS:Kearsarge runs 457 when against med, totally forgot about its
https://renhex.github.io/alft/120
1)Sakura/Imp Heavy
2)Sakura/Imp Medium
3)Sakura/Imp Light
https://renhex.github.io/alft/122
- BB Med/Heavy
- BB Light
https://renhex.github.io/alft/118
elfin hollow
1)Eagle/Avp Light
2)Eagle/Avp Med
3)Eagle/Imp Light
4)Eagle/Imp Med
PS:Kearsarge...
Yeah I dont have guam 😭
how do you get auroa?
hollow gust
light
soft raft
how do you get auroa?
She's in permanent light pool so just do your daily light pull
sullen creek
It's been 2 years and I haven't pulled her 
steady beacon
Or take 172 builds during CNY that one time
If you really want her and can spare the resources, at least in theory, wishing well is coming up...
Ofc, I have heard plenty of anecdotal counterpoints that WW is a scam
elfin hollow
~~Or take 172 builds during CNY that one time~~
If you really want her and can s...
nah imma get a ara ship
viscid swift
100% guide coming soon TM
elfin hollow
why is the twin 134mm aa guns good?
elfin hollow
so should I apply that to all my vanguard ships?
steady beacon
Absolutely not
viscid swift
When AA is not a concern sure
elfin hollow
alr
steady beacon
You only use it in that precise scenario
Go into W15 like that and well.. have fun
viscid swift
Not even all vanguard prefer it though as a stat stick
elfin hollow
is kazagumo a event ship?
steady beacon
She was, but she's in light pool now
elfin hollow
She was, but she's in light pool now
still havent gotten her ong
steady beacon
Normal enough tbh
elfin hollow
1)Eagle/Avp Light
2)Eagle/Avp Med
3)Eagle/Imp Light
4)Eagle/Imp Med
PS:Kearsarge...
wait could I replace mushai with new jersy and bismark with soyuz?
main latch
Who should i make an augment for ?
viscid swift
Shangri LA or Saratoga once they're ready
elfin hollow
also im done with my thread
steady beacon
👀 I'm not tripping that there ISN'T a maintenance today, right...
The Discord event is just an error?
novel condor
I dont think there is maint yeah
cloud fractal
Playing around with fleets, trying to see if I’m understanding the concept of fleet building. Do any of these look okay? And are they at least viable upfront but need replacements?
viscid swift
Well for what content are these for
cloud fractal
Beginner/general.
cloud fractal
They’re not geared towards specific content. It’s more of an exercise. And no. This is designing one fleet. Sorry should have made that clear.
But I have Helena, Portland, SF, Dido, Algerie, Zara, Form u and reg.
Intrepid, Strasser, some others.
novel condor
viscid swift
Well can you MLB any of the URs
cloud fractal
Yes. Assume I have enough materials to mlb everything but the urs
viscid swift
And as a rule of thumb fleet building is contextual
So there's no such thing as general
So as an exercise it's kinda futile
Contextual in what you have to work with right here and now, what you're doing with the fleet, and what content it's tackling
cloud fractal
I have all the things I listed. Which is why I’m trying to find a general framework to build around. I know that depending on content, gearing and units are swapped. But the gap in my understanding is how you traverse fleet building for content when ships you may need aren’t available to you.
steady beacon
Fleetbuilding is fundamentally a solution to a fixed problem
And keeping what that problem is in mind throughout the entire process is critical
If you want to practice it, you might want to start with the problem, i.e. what content you want it to tackle
Regardless of what ships you have, you don't start with the ships, you start with the problem
viscid swift
If you're lacking some ships then see if you have alternatives, if a weaker option will suffice and/or build around it or you just have to wait
crisp estuary
steady beacon
Even if you lack a good repertoire of ships, acceptable substitutions or somewhat weaker options can suffice... but to know which these are, you need to know what the problem is
atomic abyss
A simple example
W13 or W15 would want you to field more AA focused ships and carriers to handle the volume of planes
W14 would instead want you to field more BBs to handle suicd boats and a destroyer to handle enemy submarines
steady beacon
I had a conniption over W11 for a sec there
atomic abyss
I mean to be fair
You don't want to be running triple CVs in w11 mob...
steady beacon
No, was thinking of the nonexistent subs 👀
cloud fractal
There is no problem currently. Currently I’m clearing early game content, and completing event stuff as my ships power up. I guess what I’m looking for is Mob Fleet builds. Taking account into I’m a new player/dolphin who put money in for some packs and some pulls and has relatively good luck for what I put in.
steady beacon
Alright, mob fleet build is a valid problem
noble wyvern
did the medal shop got refreshed?
viscid swift
Well again, what do you have to work with
Saying you're a dolphin tells me nothing really
steady beacon
did the medal shop got refreshed?
As it does at the start of every month, yes
noble wyvern
As it does at the start of every month, yes
is there a cl or no? (just trying to get enterprise)
viscid swift
Since spending does not give any real advantage as far as ships or gear go
atomic abyss
It depends on your server lol
steady beacon
is there a cl or no? (just trying to get enterprise)
Depends on your server
opal stream
in AL you can be a whale and still fail at everything
atomic abyss
Different servers gets different medal shops
noble wyvern
Depends on your server
well im in little enterpriser server 
atomic abyss
I know there's a server with BB and CV in the shop currently
Amagi got subs in theirs
crisp estuary
in AL you can be a whale and still fail at everything
Big doubt. They can turbo cube PR
opal stream
and?
viscid swift
There's 3 this month
steady beacon
Probably fastest to check your own medal shop
I think Thorin already uh
Updated wiki though if you can't access in-game
opal stream
what does having pr ships 2 months faster gonna do
viscid swift
Yep wiki is updated
steady beacon
Big doubt. They can turbo cube PR
Unfortunately, all the money in the world can't buy a brain
Actually, hold on, let me clarify...
One that will somehow make you smarter, at least...
crisp estuary
Unfortunately, all the money in the world can't buy a brain
That's what bored college students making guides are for
Whale your ships, see what the bored sophomores wrote on their guides, profit
opal stream
be f2p
watch guides
profit
crisp estuary
Be f2p, start later than 2022, cry because all the URs need time, cube saving, and bulin management. The idea that money does not give advantages is rooted in old account talks
Their docks are probably not even past 400. Even less
atomic abyss
viscid swift
Honestly why do I even
atomic abyss
This is just semantics at this point
And is now completely irrelevant to the original topic
cloud fractal
Unfortunately, all the money in the world can't buy a brain
No but resources open potential for opportunities. Unfortunately, in this game until a problem actually presents itself, brute forcing and duplicates carry. I learned that dupes are bad, but I learned it after I invested in two different ships and dupes.
steady beacon
That wasn't aimed at you
Just a general observation that money can only buy you so much in this game
cloud fractal
Lesson learned, but now I’m trying to identify good fleet building frameworks and where the rest of my resources need to go.
viscid swift
You've read Sam's Fleetbuilding Guide I presume?
cloud fractal
Yeah I know. I just don’t generally share what I pull because I can pull and I’m not in the market of showing off. I pull because I enjoy it, and I like playing with the shiny stuff faster. But I still want to be an effective player.
viscid swift
Posting your dock and seeing what you have is not showing off
Especially not to regulars of this channel
cloud fractal
You've read Sam's Fleetbuilding Guide I presume?
Yep, and it’s fascinating at how much goes into this game. So that’s why I was trying to identify potential starting grounds for playing.
viscid swift
Given quite a few of us are vets who have been active for years
cloud fractal
I know the 4 early game bigs. But I had so much more that I wasn’t sure if I should stick to them.
opal stream
the what
cloud fractal
Given quite a few of us are vets who have been active for years
Alright, I’ll put together what I have as of tonight.
novel condor
cloud fractal
the what
Sam lists 4 early game ships as being primary investments. Port, uni, Helena, and Penn.
Because they’re easily farmable.
steady beacon
Sam lists 4 early game ships as being primary investments. Port, uni, Helena, an...
Once you have the absorbed the principles for constructing a good mob fleet from the guide... that right there is a potential exercise, if you want, in effective fleetbuilding
opal stream
is that really how he named it
night pumice
shouhou isn't buyable through a shop or anything is she
cloud fractal
is that really how he named it
Nah lmao
viscid swift
shouhou isn't buyable through a shop or anything is she
She's in the guild shop
pure geode
nvm-
steady beacon
shouhou isn't buyable through a shop or anything is she
Yep, guild shop and rookie
But when Unicorn is also in the shop, her days have long passed...
night pumice
nah I just need her for that one rookie quest, I already have unicorn mlb and almost retro'd
opal stream
even back then people used uni more 
steady beacon
Indeed
Let me rephrase... her days of even being considered have long passed...
cloud fractal
Dock
steady beacon
Well, she is still a precious, precious CV+1 RLD
I mean, so is Unicorn, but... anyway
night pumice
are the pirate ships any good
crisp estuary
Matters not. There is only one Unicorn and she is going to cap her xp eventually. You will invest horizontally in healers someday
sharp socket
does iron blood tech take significantly longer than eagle union
sharp socket
is there a royal navy tech ship that i can go for also because IB is gonna take forever
steady beacon
... Is Plymouth available?
pure geode
is there a royal navy tech ship that i can go for also because IB is gonna take ...
ib is quite faster if you can just do some divergent chessboard and IB ships give you double tech pts so~
viscid swift
Just farm DC for more IB ships....
sharp socket
what is divergent chessboard
steady beacon
War Archive
sharp socket
uh alright then
vagrant otter
is this worth it?
viscid swift
uh alright then
Just look at the number of IB ships that drop from D4 alone and you'll see
Also read Sam's fleet tech guide
sharp socket
the 4 gold bulins are so good
opal stream
its mostly for the gears
copper glacier
This may have been asked by others today, but, given the ship update to the medal shop. . . which one should I get first? I don't have any of them.
Oh. Apparently it is only one per month. So. Which one should I get?
viscid swift
Hood and Enterprise
copper glacier
Not Bismark?
plain saffron
she's not good
opal stream
one of the worst gold bb
pure geode
bis for tech if you alrdy got hood/enty
viscid swift
Bismarck is garbage
sly raven
is the new prinz eugen good?
sly raven
ic
night pumice
is the only way to get medals retiring rare/elite/sr ships
opal stream
missions
but mostly just retiring
plain saffron
rare and above
inland shoal
URs give medals too
forest palm
Just factory print some URs for those sweet 30 medals
crisp estuary
I thought the new Eugen was a sidegrade to Hagumo?
opal stream
retire 3 ur bulin for a gold bulin
inland shoal
Who is Hagumo
But afaik she is for most content
steady beacon
... Hagumo is not Haguro is it...?
Am I just tripping?
inland shoal
retire 3 ur bulin for a gold bulin
If only there wasn't a limit to gold bulins 😔
crisp estuary
I keep forgetting the name. Japanese Portland
inland shoal
... Hagumo is not _Haguro_ is it...?
~~Am I just tripping?~~
Hence my question who Hagumo is as we don't have a ship called Hagumo
vale spindle
haguro
new eugen is more similar to heinrich cause shes like portland bulk but more damage
steady beacon
Damn, did I miss the evaluation of Haguro as Japanese Portland
vale spindle
haguro is ijn portland
opal stream
better port
steady beacon
Remind me, flight order of a CV's planes is left to right (or top to bottom) per equipped yes?
plain saffron
flag top bottom
steady beacon
No, no, a single CV's equipped planes
Alternatively, I might be tripping for ever thinking this
inland shoal
Eh I think so? But I don't think it should matter like ever
lament tree
Why is the boss not open?
steady beacon
Clear more mobs
lament tree
No ammo?
steady beacon
Level 50 is the um
SP3 right
It's 5 mobs, 1 boss
inland shoal
You can fight out of ammo, it's just 50% dmg reduction
lament tree
you can fight on 0 ammo
You can?
vale spindle
yes lol
steady beacon
You will be out of ammo for the last fight, just power through
lament tree
steady beacon
Your levels probably carry
They should really change it to "depleted" ammo or something, I can understand why "out" of ammo confuses some people
inland shoal
I don't think depleted would make it any less confusing tbh
plain saffron
isn't depleted also means out of ammo
inland shoal
Too close <:PortDoll:585585241142591535> hmmm... "reduced"
Ugh...
"Low"?
~~Shoot...
Ammo saving mode: -50% dmg?
steady beacon
Have they broken order for METAs yet...
Idts at least
steady beacon
Ammo saving mode: -50% dmg? <:PortDoll:585585241142591535>
No, no, that's a good one 👀
Pretty accurate to combat, too
Whereas y'know
If you are truly "out" of ammo, no more shooting for you...
pulsar hornet
We're not likely to get pre evaluation anytime soon, yes?
plain saffron
out of ammo, and they shoot using willpower that's why -50% dmg
inland shoal
We're not likely to get pre evaluation anytime soon, yes?
Dunno ask sam 
steady beacon
Ngl, now that you bring that up, I am reminded of the old joke/urban legend (?) that British ships would start throwing crumpets at the enemy
And of course, there's the infamous "potato incident"... anyway...
south sequoia
next plover
im stupid and dummy any know how i made the rest 12 points in 6 day pls?
steady beacon
Uh... keep clearing SP5... I'm 90% sure...
inland shoal
You iust sortie 12 times on SP5?
left nest
are composing tier 2 skill books into tier 3 books a bad decision?
next plover
Uh... keep clearing SP5... I'm 90% sure...
this sp5
steady beacon
Yes, that Sp5
inland shoal
are composing tier 2 skill books into tier 3 books a bad decision?
Depends, all of them is often bad, some of them can be good
You lose out on total exp you have in books, but you gain speed
fallow lark
What's the best stuff for monty?
I can't find her on the tier list
next plover
@next plover i mean this stage
steady beacon
<@264948975206006784> i mean this stage
No, no, it's physically impossible to clear that stage 60 times lol
inland shoal
<@264948975206006784> i mean this stage
That is not what the mission is referring to tho
next plover
That is not what the mission is referring to tho
sp5 and special stage both?
steady beacon
What's the best stuff for monty?
I can't find her on the tier list
If you mean ENTL, she's T1 between Misaki and Noshiro
But nothing really special, she just gears like any other secondary gun CL
cloud fractal
What are we priority buying in event shop if you already have 1 of the unit from the Build event banner?
fallow lark
What's the best stuff for monty?
I can't find her on the tier list
Nvm I was searching for her wrong
inland shoal
sp5 and special stage both?
Nah this is an SP event, so I believe all stages qualify as special stage
fallow lark
If you mean ENTL, she's T1 between Misaki and Noshiro
But nothing really special...
Yeah I was searching for her on cv lol
next plover
Nah this is an SP event, so I believe all stages qualify as special stage
the description are confused ....
steady beacon
Nah this is an SP event, so I believe all stages qualify as special stage
Oh, true actually
I think whenever those extra point missions appear it really just means "clear event stages" as opposed to any one stage
turbid dawn
Is it worth trying to MLB and level these last HMS ships I have for HMS tech or is it better to focus on the last bit of CV+BB RLD I need to do and just wait for all the HMS events I missed?
steady beacon
What are we priority buying in event shop if you already have 1 of the unit from...
Priority is in the datamine, in the pins
After Eugen and the Alizarin towel, though, it's uh... just as usual
You can do both, since CV/BB RLD is backline and all those are frontline 👀
elfin hollow
Is it worth trying to MLB and level these last HMS ships I have for HMS tech or ...
Ooh! Jupiter looks so cute!
cloud fractal
Priority is in the datamine, in the pins
After Eugen and the Alizarin towel, tho...
First event! Gotta find out what the usual is hahah. I guess I can buy the towel, but I have enough for the unit again.
turbid dawn
You can do both, since CV/BB RLD is backline and all those are frontline 👀
I don't have the cog chips to do both rn sadly
steady beacon
Ah
Uh... gosh... let me remember
Usual priority after event-exclusive ships/equips goes like uh
Cog arrays/cog chips, PR/DR blueprints above all...
Then you can get oil if you need it, and augment stuff is nice if you can afford to
Everything else is just if you want/need it
Iirc Sam advises tech boxes too if you're very new to try and roll for better equipment
cloud fractal
Okay. I will double check Sam’s guide for this. Been hyper focused on the fleet building thing.
steady beacon
All my box rolls are generally crap though so... your mileage may vary
cloud fractal
I don’t generally like buying RNG things. I waste my good luck on banners lmao
untold trout
Where does one get akagi?
cloud fractal
3-4 at 0.75% chance of a drop. Her an Kaga both, if I remember reading that correctly.
steady beacon
You go into the infamous fox mines, in campaign 3-4
And possibly burn months there, if your luck is bad enough
cloud fractal
I got her on my first clear. Did not get Kaga which would have been insane.
fallow lark
I don't need to awk lvl 100 ships if I'm farming pr exp right?
steady beacon
The distribution of luck in this game
Well, I can't complain, I only occasionally get smacked with terrible luck...
No, you don't need to awaken Level 100 ships for PR exp
In fact, even Level 125 max capped ships contribute to PR exp
Wasteful, yes, but when you're grinding some ships from small factions, sometimes you have no choice 
fallow lark
cloud fractal
The distribution of luck in this game <:PortDoll:585585241142591535>
Well, I ca...
I call it whale luck. I feel like my luck on some of the RNG stuff is good because I support the games I play pretty heavily.
still gate
for some reason the game says that i cannot do any hard stages today. why would this happen? i did them yesterday at this time. dont they restore every day?
steady beacon
I don't have the cog chips to do both rn sadly
Sorry, missed this...
I personally care for that precious RLD more than I'll ever care for faction tech...
Ummmm... so I'd focus on that first..
I'm also coping HMS UR in May, but don't take that as gospel obviously
still gate
and i did 0 today
steady beacon
for some reason the game says that i cannot do any hard stages today. why would ...
Try logging out and logging back in
This is the desync error or something
turbid dawn
Another quick question, looking at how much you can get for CV RLD, it reads here you can only get 25, plus an extra 1 from collecting Aquila, where does the other 14 RLD come from? As it says you can max out at 40 and I'm currently at 28
steady beacon
Another quick question, looking at how much you can get for CV RLD, it reads her...
Other comes from faction tech
I want to say USS and IJN but... don't quote me on that...
Actually, if you scroll further down that page, there should be info on what faction tech gives...
turbid dawn
Ah yeah it says HMS+USS, both at level 7 which I have
steady beacon
Ah, HMS and USS...
Didn't expect the first one tbh
Always had the impression of IJN/USS giving the CV focus and HMS/KMS the BB focus
turbid dawn
I must've been levelling up the wrong CVs then or something as I have 48 120+ CVs and still missing 12 RLD
steady beacon
In a sense, yes, but only because a LOT of the CVs that contribute RLD are not worth it except precisely for that RLD tech
Same with the BBs, actually
turbid dawn
Yeahhhh, I've always just levelld the SRs first and it seems that I'm missing a lot of the important tech as they're mostly rare or common
Bastards
steep merlin
Is it better to farm 6-4 hard or 7-4 but I only get A grade?
jaunty vault
more core data is better so 7-4 hard
makw sure you have clearing mode turned ON after you get 3 stars so you only have to fight the boss
dense kettle
Is Kursk worth raising?
jaunty vault
not particularly
novel condor
Not really if u got better tanks to use
dense kettle
man. It's so joever.
signal leaf
How do i get more blueprints for FDG 
pure geode
you coin her
signal leaf
you coin her
i am very poor rn
south sequoia
i am very poor rn
Then go grind w9+
pure geode
i am very poor rn
that's understandable so reach a higher level map in campaign, rn you should be grinding event map tho
warm flax
What's the preferred sexy-twin rainbow ratio for vanguard?
signal leaf
ima just pray to the rng gods first see how that goes 🙏
south sequoia
What's the preferred sexy-twin rainbow ratio for vanguard?
ideally 2 rainbow 1 sexy
sexy should be on the hardest hitter
lament tree
Ima make a quick thread after making some more progress to see if there's any changes I need to make to team comp, characters and gear if anyone is willing to take a look
south sequoia
2 rainbows have great aa and makes everything so much faster
warm flax
Alright
lament tree
Ima make a quick thread after making some more progress to see if there's any ch...
Any help would be appreciated
fallow lark
Do the x2 thingys affect exp?
plain saffron
it's like doing 2 run in 1 so yes
ember kelp
best team for this? assume I have all ships not counting PR ships
jaunty vault
best team for this? assume I have all ships not counting PR ships
can use helena instead of plym
subs can be whatever
blissful hamlet
can use helena instead of plym
subs can be whatever
what's the bag on kazagumo?
exotic flax
correct me if I am wrong.
Owning a ship gives fleet tech points and permastats
upgrading said ship to MLB gives tech points
upgrading said ship to 120 gives tech points and permastats
upgrading said ship to 125 gives nothing
tech points are consumed to upgrade faction permastats
but permastats only apply to MLB ships, regardless of level
and level 70 ships give no stats beyond what you get for owning the ship, other than facilitating MLB
jaunty vault
youre correct
steady beacon
what's the bag on kazagumo?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Embroidered_Charm_Pouch
500 HP aux that increases all IJN ship LCK by 1
blissful hamlet
luck
jaunty vault
youre correct
/fleettech
odd rootBOT
vivid panther
Is there any alternative to specialized bulin custom mkiii?
jaunty vault
ship duplicates
steady beacon
luck <:MutsukiHyperStare:588629678017871872>
Well, since the RPG aux is taken by Sirius and for lack of anything else that is especially helpful... you might as well take what you can...
vivid panther
ship duplicates
it's gonna be so hard to max out soyuz then 😭
frank pulsar
itll take like 2-4 months yea
cloud fractal
How important is the mood of the units. My one is “Pretty unhappy, how about a rest?”
frank pulsar
if their mood hit 0 stop using them
cuz when theyre at 0 they start losing affinity if you force them to fight, and they only get half the exp
cloud fractal
Am I supposed to drop in the dorm to recoup?
frank pulsar
dorm is main method to regen mood yea
this is why having 6 slots across first and second floor is recommended
steady beacon
You also gain +20% more EXP when they are happy (120+ mood)
Although not everyone is as... sentimental as I, only sortieing units at 120+ mood
frank pulsar
if they can work they work, no such thing as extra breaks
cloud fractal
Lmao
worldly pewter
it's gonna be so hard to max out soyuz then `😭`
1 from her event 1 in march from cores 1 from kron event and the pass one is easily doable unless u spent them elsewhere
cloud fractal
this is why having 6 slots across first and second floor is recommended
And that’s only done through gems, correct? You put them in to “train” and expanding is 300 gems a pop. So 3000 gems to get to 12 total slots.
steady beacon
Uhhh... the prices differ per slot and level...
cloud fractal
Oh. Even better 😂
steady beacon
300 for 3rd
500 for 4th
800 for 5th
1200 for 6th
Second floor is 500
So total would be 3300
Although iirc F2P advice is only 3rd slot + 2nd floor...
cloud fractal
Oh. So when you unlock the slots it’s for both floors
steady beacon
Better wait for someone to verify this bc I honestly forget half of the details on these topics
steady beacon
Oh. So when you unlock the slots it’s for both floors
Yep, I believe so
cloud fractal
Alright. That’s slightly better. Especially once to upgrade enough to get the second floor
atomic lagoon
the /gem command has 3 recommendations for f2p gem spending, I think it's the most recent thing in the bot spam channel atm as well
cloud fractal
/gem
atomic lagoon
Sorry, it was /gems, ^^'
cloud fractal
/gems
odd rootBOT
Gem Spending 101
Gems 
in Azur Lane are fairly rare from a free-to-play perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.
As a free-to-play player, you can get up to 4150 guaranteed gems (3500 for 3* clearing all 14 main campaign worlds, 500 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from mini-events or from maintenance compensations.
Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on base upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything. Some examples of how to best spend your gems are listed below. Note, that every example utilizes 3900 gems, which requires clearing every chapter up to and including World 13, so specific order is left up to player.
🔹 4 Dorm slots, 2nd Floor, 3rd Academy slot, +100 Dock space
"A little bit of everything" upgrade that allows for the faster skill upgrade process and completely functional dorm together with 2nd floor and high dock capacity.
🔹 5 Dorm slots, 2nd Floor, +90 Dock space
Dorm focused upgrade that ignores academy in favour of bigger dorm, allows for higher passive EXP gain and morale restoration compared to previous one. Recommended for active players.
🔹 +150 Dock space, 4 Dorm slots
Extremely heavy dock focused upgrade, mostly recommended for players who want to collect a lot of characters, while still having a functional dorm. Alternatively possible to ignore 4th dorm in favour of +30 Dock space and slightly higher per-ship EXP gain in the dorm (due to having fewer ships). Not recommended for players who play actively due to poor ability to restore morale.
Please note, that while these are "recommended" upgrades, players are free to use their own judgement. For example, 5th dorm slot can be exchanged for 2nd dorm floor depending on preferences (5th dorm for higher passive EXP gain, 2nd floor for easier farming with morale restoration) and vice versa. Any upgrade can be ignored in favour of additional dock slots or the other way around, but generally recommended amount is +100 slots (up to 250).