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and shes pretty bulky
Also very cute
I thought her main barrage was fast seeking projectiles
So give Scylla the 76 and blue torp?
i prefer purple torps but not much of a difference
only few people knew how much scylla does on her release 
ectl is the superior list
Scylla was aurora noctis rerun?
Implac
Ah
Ofc
Idk about seeking but um... it at least looks instant to me? https://patchwiki.biligame.com/images/blhx/5/51/sylcmamnee4kvfb45hws7ri1si9ky9q.gif
I mean, it does have prio targeting if that's what you were asking
If you look closely she fires fast blue/white projectiles at the start
...that sprite of hers looks terrifying
Lightning strikes are part of the improved barrage she gets on later reloads
What usually used as tank/frontmost vanguard in arbiter/enforcer fights?
Lmao, I swear I never noticed those blue orbs before...
That's neat to know
Depends on the fleet really
cbs, anch
Gacha ship on implax event
BB fleets would prefer Agir as the tank after all
Or if you want to live on the wild side there's always JDA

"I make everyone a tank"
until she goes whoops, i got timing diffed
Or she gets fucked over by auto rng and gets nuked
Ye they are fast and can be easy to miss with the eye
Btw, what's the timeline for Aquila and VV to get archived
As in event run order
Next in line iirc
For archiving
In theory
They already kinda messed it up bc technically NJ jumped them in line
they just dont want shina to be the sole 1.2
Plus people won't shut up about NJ so
more ships to bait into the newb trap
A well-calculated ploy, given the number of people I've met who started this game for NJ 
I mean
I too want my NJ
But I gave in to get Nano first so I suffer
why is my azur lane, after the last event update, since yesterday the game is just stuck on the loading screen, won't enter, why?
use vpn
change internet
restart
etc etc
if all fail then reinstall
Does Ancho and Jeane shields stack?
If even reinstall doesn't work head on over to #tech-support
alr,.let me try
does SP5 drop gear skins?
ok, thanks
aight ty, ima keep grinding for them then
yes but as far as being consumed at the same time or shield order 
Okay do I change my ships in OpSi? I am about to enter a battle where some of them will be a detriment and I want to put some beefier ships in their place.
ig if u wanna change your ships then the answer is yes
if asking how then just go to any blue port > orders > fleet deployment
Yeah I did that, but its not letting me change my fleet. I keep tapping on the ship to remove it, but nothing happens.
Thorin already checked this a few days back
TLDR, first shield deployed chronologically is consumed first
if a dd has a torp in all out assault, does that torp was based on trp stat?
most likely yes
Generally yes
There are some weird barrages where ordnance does not scale with the stat you expect, but that should be true 99% of the time
Just came back with the game, is nj and musashi still the top damage dealer?
like saratoga shooting shells that scale with avi
so if i put oxy torp, the damage of barrage will increase too? like kaza
musashi is one of the top, nj not rly but shes still ur bb
Who is top bb now?
There's a joke I've been told about UR BB damage
You can just control who is the top damage dealer in any one run by shuffling your flag 
yes it can increase but it rly depends if trading that survability is worth it
bz sushi soyuz vanny are the upper urs
Sushi = Musashi
Bismarck Zwei, Musashi, Sovetsky Soyuz, Vanguard
This is probably why the PvPers come up with meme names for their comps 
PvPers just come up with funny names because we have no other joys
Ok thanks, i left the game just when bz came 🥲 when will there be a rerun?
its usually around 2 years between intial run and rerun but 🔮
God, BZ will probably be a while...
🔮
Cries*
whos bz? 
Bismarck Zwei
Bismarck Zwei yes
hm ok 
One day we will standardise the nomenclature
The problem will then be like five competing standards
In a carrier boss fleet who is generally preferred to remain in vanguard, Sirius or Kazugumo?
Depends on who you're facing
All riding on whether Sirius' evasion rate debuff works
opsi sirius is stronger when she works but sometimes u run kaza either way coz the other 2 slots are taken and u need her for nano
Solution, shift your ARA to the backline 
Said fleet is currently
Main: Formi, Enty, Ark
Vang: Roonmu, Kazugumo, Sirius
so whos competeing with sirius and kaza
Who are you contemplating replacing one of them with, though?
Might slap Jeane for survivability
if you want survivability use a better tank
Ngl, there's a part of me that would prefer to just uh
Put Anch or Guam in Roon's place
roon u is squishier than portland
Which medal shop ship should i get
It's kinda hard to make Roon's debuff work for carrier intervals, for one thing
enterprise/hood/sirius/u96 rest is tech
if cv, enterprise if you don't have her
if bb, hood if you dont have her
if anything else, just grab any ship that give relevant tech
No hood for me
I have enterprise
Z46 for KMS tech probs then
grab the tech then
Agreed
U mean formid u or normal formid?
I sure hope normal Formi 
How do you get tech points
Obtain/MLB/raise to Level 120
Assuming you're looking for tech points for unlocking PR/DRs, you will probably focus on the former two, obtaining faction ships from available sources and MLB'ing at least the cheaper ships
Is formid in normal pool? I just came back to dc in 1 year and i forget how to search info for things, can anyone tell me where to open guild?
She is indeed in the permanent special pool, and iirc available in a few recent invitations (although none that I think were around a year ago)
As for guild, do you mean joining one? You can try: https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/474628009853190156
avrora died before 3rd torp but it worked i guess
No sorry guide i means 😂
Oh
Rip english
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Who is that ca with top damage?
Unzen
movement can still cuck your torp targeting?
ya
Ofc it can
But Avrora bringing the vanguard to a snail's pace... certainly feels like it helps
yea i can see noshiro making this consistent

avrora can just sink anyway, her buff stays
Hey I know this isn’t gameplay related but what do I do for this? Sleep? Go outside with TB..?
Filter the schedule to find the "life experience" activities and do a basic one
More info in the thread: https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488
Thank youu!!
so laffey and helena are getting bodied by SP5
even at 110 laffey and 106 helena, with penn and suruga as support
are u on mobile or emulator
?
Uh... with those levels, 2+2 against SP5... sounds like a gear issue...
hmmm
Bc I mean Laffey has what... 30+ levels advantage, so the level advantage is already maxed up
Boise is lv80
That's even worse
Shift a toolkit to Laffey
Are there subs?
I mean the auxes arent that problematic
Well, that's true 
Not really, i think i just forgot to replace that after doing abyssal refrain
You could do far worse tbh
Putting aside why Laffey isn't retrofit
I don't think they should die unless the battle is really dragging
In all honesty? I don't think the gear is the issue
what is the fast way to get protocore?
are you onw fleeting SP5
I am one fleeting SP5
While you certainly could do better, they are decent poverty gea-
...yeah that's why lol
Oh 💀
You're 0 ammo-ing the boss
research
catch up and combat data pack for new players ig
So a 50% damage penalty
You'll need a healer
Well i dont have any other ships for a two fleet, still trying to get enough
And a full fleet
I also have to rotate for farming
I mean my 1 fleet with FDC and uni does work fine yeah
So maybe i should invest in another uni 
Actually wait i have perseus
Jav and saratoga are for exp farming
That fleet gets through with a 1 fleet, what doesnt is this
whats this
I had to use laffey two times because portland kept dying
Maybe i should just train my eugen and replace portland with her
Yeah that's why
There's not enough healing
You're not single fleeting sp5 without a proper healer
And Volga at that level is not a proper healer
Lol no
Don't waste the gold bulins on something that useless
How do you get tech points
/fleettech
Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
- Collecting the ship (~20%)
- Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
- Achieving level 120 (~35%)
-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD
Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.
For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
Okay so, perseus?
No she's not 
Eugen tanks better sure but her damage is even more potato
I dont see any difference when i got z46
how many gold bulins and exp packs do you have
also is your Perseus max lb
You could run Perseus yes
Or you could yeet unicorn into the dorm
Also, maybe Portland is carrying the wrong gear
Is she even retrofit?
Im already using unicorn in fleet 1, i then have to rotate her out
Still 110
have you tried restarting game
Uh exp packs like 10, perseus not mlbed, as for bulins i have 4
are you sure you were at 110 betore you got z46
She is retrofit, yes
Then the gearing is probably wrong
use all your bulins on volga and use another fleet for boss
laffey can stay in the unicorn hood fleet
And that's why I said to put her in dorm to keep her morale out
Also that
Yeah that's definitely why...
Portland wants evasion auxes not HP
Oh
2nd fleets mood shouldnt run out that fast then, right?
Yes
The blue steering wheel should be enough for awhile
Just use unicorn
Unicorn will be a main healer while volga is a secondary healer
Volgas heal isn't fleetwide and affects less ships than unicorn
Volga is more a secondary healer unlike Perseus who is a Uni stand in
Perseus > Uni?
I dont think so
uni > perseus
There's really no place where you would think to use perseus over unicorn
Unicorn heals the same amount without falling off in damage
i heard perseus has a burst heal then sleep rather than the consistent heal from uni 
Well just beat my first Arbiter in OpSi. It was a bitxh. Though I suck as my fleet could not do do the impossible and take out the last sliver of HP to win the battle. Yes I know I suck something hard as I couldn't help it with my rleet.
@steady beacon , sorry to bug you, but you’re the only one I trust. I recently got this ship named Kazagumo, should I keep that one for later too?
Lmao, that ping change 
Yes, Kazagumo is an excellent ship, but probably not the most useful for your needs right now
if you dont really need help then why are you sending this message in #gameplay-help though
Alright. I’ll put her in my dorm for now. Thank you. 
Why
Something like that... assuming auto play, she heals your vanguard for 14% and your backline for 7% at the start of the battle and then does not heal again for like... 30+ seconds
its #gameplay-blogging now
exp presumably
Hmmm
This is why.
Actually, that is not completely true, you get an extra 1% every 20s too... but anyway...
Perseus has 2 preloads and heals main fleet on every launch, but has a heavy penalty for subsequent launch times after preload
Unicorn only heals main fleet on first launch, but has more and stronger planes and has normal launch times
Her healing isn't well suited for a lot of content
I’m Lv.31
especially when your fleet isn't that well equipped
(assuming Unicorn retrofit)
wdym unbalanced its like the cookie cutter starter fleet
No i meant level wise
the levels diverge wildly
Oh wait youre exp grinding
Probably the level differences
Since we swapped out a couple of the ships earlier
if before retrofit Perseus will probably fare better
More like her dmg isn't well suited for most content
but Perseus costs gold bulins which you may want to hold for better SR ships
Oh. I got them today and just spent all my books on Laffey because she looked cute.
The only time you could argue for unicorn vs perseus is when you use them in operation siren, but uni would still be better unless you adjust your fleet to lose 1 slot of not doing damage
percy does better in my opsi mob than uni 
so IJN pair/Implacable/Unzen/Moshiro/JintsuuM?
My previous one was this.
On stronghold bosses?
No, you keep Avrora over JintM

uni doesnt get 2 strikes off inbetween so percy keeps my fleet healthy
Like volga? 
Oh actually, I never asked Rice who he's intending to replace but uh
That's who I'm replacing at least...
just don't take more damage than Unicorn can heal in 1 launch
I'm willing to shuffle fleet depending on how it goes though
Honestly does it matter between uni vs percy if your fleet kills mobs so fast uni isn't able to catch a 2nd strike
well my assumption is Avrora because you're mainly buffing torps and Jintsuu also has strong torps, while Avrora does nothing herself
can you lb1 soyuz? coz then u dont have to bother with penny
LBs were indeed the issue we were facing
I’m Lv.31.
Ig you dont play alot?
sometimes poison and fires slowly tickles my vang and on hold bosses they die
Oh right, overworld dot
Just new.
I can't say more without testing
But given that my ultimate goal is juicing Unzen, I'd rather trust in 35% over 25% TRP
I'll have to be honest I can't really make a fair evaluation on Unicorn heals vs Perseus for strongholds at least in part because I do almost every fight in strongholds with subs, and for quite a while I've been using triple carrier preload/quicklaunch so Perseus is just gimp in that fleet
No, I only have 1309 of those gears-and a bulin costs 4000.
but if you get a heal reversal boss in stronghold, Perseus's second prelaunch will be debuffed
@cobalt rapids Do you have a cheat sheet for uss cv fleet set ups with kear
I wanna get around to doing akagi shinano mob
is ur cruiss pass also far and the newcomer support plan ?
soyuz released in feb
if u have played u could have mlbed her easily 
sigh 
I just had to delete the app due to a busy schedule. I’m sorry.
Well ig it doesnt matter
my current OS mob fleet is actually RodneyM/Unicorn/Aquila 
Is the third ship Implac
What does that look like again?
and support plan is somewhere in event tabs
No, you're asking for a USS CV fleet cheat sheet...?
doesn't support plan also have a counter on the left sidebar
oh
yeah third ship is implac
idr tbh
I was told Cruise isn’t that good since the girls there aren’t worth what’s called “dock space”.
What 🗿
you get the META ship regardless of free or paid pass
and if you don't claim the ship you miss all the resources
i think u can just alft 46 and give skyraider and beacon to yorki and put kear instead of enty and it should sync
there's also an upcoming update that will give META their own dock unlimited space
so do your cruise stuff and claim it
In about... a month, if the devs are to be believed, there will be a separate META dock
Don't miss the rewards for one dock space right now lol
I mean if you're still quite new you'll probably have enough space to last until META dock comes, whenever that is
Wait it’s not coming next month?
chances are it'll come around CN anniversary, which will be late May
What if the person I get isn’t transported to that dock due to technicality issues?
but we don't yet have an exact date
if there's a technical issue that your META ship doesn't go to the META dock that's not a you issue, that's a dev issue
which means they will fix it
Support exists, just ask em
Do you think the current person is worth getting..?
the ship is meh but how does that matter if she won't take space
If you mean vampire meta she's trash
But missing out on the other rewards is not good
you're missing all of the resources in the cruise pass just for that 1 dock space until META dock comes
They give cubes and exp diaries
how do i farm specialized cores
Cubes will help for upcoming UR
you play normal stages or events
this is what you'll miss every 2 months for not claiming your cruise pass
You also get them from weeklies and opsi
Opsi?
Guys what are the drop rate for retrofit blueprint
not known
Dont know
Server side
so its the final day of opsi before reset, and i got ton of ap boxes and i heard a few ways to get ur prints is do strong hold and cat salvage.
which node should i spam for cat salvage to get some ur prints
only cat salvage has a chance to drop, strongholds spawn with 2 cat dives
you still want to clear strongholds for gold plates and tokens to buy shit if you haven't cleared out shops
UR prints cost quite a bit of tokens in shops
i think UR print drop chance are extremely low
they are like a surprise bonus
What is Opsi for ?
farming gold plates and gear lab materials
Is the UR drop rate wheb you build a ship geniuely 1.2% ?
Is the outcome of those rewards which I’m able to claim over the span in a month outweigh the fact that I might not finish the entire Cruise, therefore not only will I become unable to claim all those goodies, but I’ll get a bad ship.
Even then, I can still get a Bulin via shop, and if it’s a matter of “LB” the lady with blue hair, then there should be a counterpoint of what if a better ship comes during the month of May?
yes
ofc, game list it as 1.2
we have no reason to doubt the build drop rates
Hmmm cuz I did around 200 rolls and got none
understood but your you guys what is your perfered nodes?, last i checked some has been pointing me to this node to spam on the last day for cat dives, i already cleared all nodes and got the important stuff from the supply shop
ure stressing too much over a temporary -1 dockspace
but yes the rewards are worth it even if u dont finish it
that's just bad luck not 1.2% at fault
200 pulls doesn't mean you're guaranteed a drop with 1.2%
I hate this game
but I guess you have enough to claim pity
...i aint saying anything on the topic off other game drop rates
guess gachas arent' for you then
if you have everything done from loggers, to abyssals to arbys to strongholds and etc, you can just spend your ap boxes away at any c5 node
(I love this game)
Dont stress over -1 dock space lolz the cruise missions are worth it
How should I spend my rubies ?
Oath rings ?
spamming C5 for cat dives is the last thing you do
1.2% is super generous given the ships strength and compared to other gachas
Guys which ur ships are added in permanent pool?
Dock expansion ?
Domain expansion ?
NJ and nano
nj and shinano
dock and dorm
I know, but damn I'm unlucky
Dormitory space and Dock space
Gosh no musahi
Do not spend gems on expanding the dorm, spend the gems on the dorm slots
you have to be super inactive to not be able to complete cruise
and you're stressing out over 1 dock space which will soon be 0 dock space
What about oath rings ?
I see people oath alot of ship girls
💳
For morale recover, right ?
Doit if you wanna ig
off the top of my head you can't expand dorm directly with gems, besides buying dorm tokens or some shit
You need money
Spending f2p gems on oath rings is just asking for you to make your game experience to be painful
Oath every girl and go bankrupt
People who use auto Kear/Implac/Yorktown for OpSi bosses
Do y'all run double TB on Implac to keep her synced up with Skyraider Yorktown?
It's not bad in a sense that it will softlock you but grinding amd quality of life features such as lack of dorm and dock will make it really hard to grind from day to day
the answer is don't use Skyraider on Yorktown
Let me contact my advisor.
Yas
Is there a guide for opsi btw
Guys, i hope that musashi get a rerun soon
Im fucking confused
So Tenrai then
Jeez
This is why I manual, clearly
Morale recovery and passive exp gain from first floor
2nd floor of dorm doesn't give exp but it gives better morale recovery
ntk is right there, you dont use skyraider. Are you doing the cn kear build
if your advisor is the person telling you not to claim the cruise pass for that 1 dock space you need a new advisor
Is he trolling
wdym not use skyraider
not soon enough, maybe later this year
im pretty sure beacon skyraider beats 2x cata tenrai
you don't use Tenrai/Skyraider for boss comp
hah wrong ping
You're a new player
You won't miraculously gain 150 unique ships in a span of a month for you to stress over 1 dock slot being taken up by a meta ship
Who should i put in more priority to retrofit, helena or laffey
NO, (I’m sorry.)
nah dun worry abt it
the only time you use Skyraider is on Enterprise accelerated by Yorktown II, or when you're trying to break up the timing
Clearly we are not on the same page then...
🤝
…What page are you on
im in the same page as ntk 
@elfin hollow, anyways keep kazagumo for later
what are u acelerating ur cvs like that for unless its for 20s shields
20s shields are a valid reason tbf
I will just take my manual and go
consistency
Okay fine I’ll claim the silly rewards
I'm not swapping planes when I run into a 20s-something boss
I can’t do it.
I’m worrying too much.
good luck skipping all the crusie pass resources until they add META dock then
boys are these wyvern trp
?
probably
You're worrying over a problem that will seriously not affect you for the next what? 2- 4 months?
and 2-4 months is assuming absolute worst case scenario
I’m a worrywart. 
Is there a way to spend mass amounts of oil? I’ve been at cap and can’t spend it fast enough 
if you're not already capping out dock space you don't even need to worry, at all
either grind away your events and w9+ or spend it on curry dorm food
it can be many things
yeah i think u are right
i did buy alot of naval curry when i was 12k overflow in oil
thing is most TB torps look the same I can't tell you which torps are which exactly
It's a bit hard to tell since some torpedos share the same visual, if you want to differentiate wyvern torps from your regular torpedo bombers use a gear skin
Im never in overflow, i spend it on farming so 
i cant farm fast enough because of oilcap and morale, literally have to farm like 3 times a day which is hard
curry is good spend if you really can't use your oil in time
i mean i can auto AL while in a lecture hall but i dont think its a good idea
My points didnt come up what do i do
push higher stages
they consume more oil for more coins 
what did you do to think your KMS tech should have gone up
@south sequoia Can you explain what this?
I got z46-
i use mine for FDG
Those are generic DR blueprints, that can be converted into specific blueprints of the ship of your choice
Blueprints, they are used for PR ships
did you already have Z46 before
Are all of them good?
something u use later
hoard for now
PR ships are upgraded differently from your regular ships, they use these blueprints to get enhancements and stars to get stronger.
most of them are really good, but it's not something you need to worry about for the next 2-3 months at least
But since you are new you really shouldn't worry about these until you're much much later into the game
like, top meta good
Nope
well did it tell you Z46 is new when you claimed her
Yeah. Oh, by the way, I’m expanding my dorm area with the gems, now all four of them can sleepovers.
then your KMS tech should have gone up by 22 points
you'll probably want to stop at 4 slots for dorm for now
4 should be enough
5 - 6 get expensive
maybe it did and i didnt notice
if you really want to be sure, go into the tech menu and filter by KMS, then add up the tech for everything you have now, it should add up correctly
tech system has basically not been broken since they started using it, so odds are you just didn't notice
Regarding my current fleet, is there anyone who needs to have their things levelled when it comes to superpowers?
unicorn, level her healing skill
seems about riht so i didnt notice
should be top priority
1 thing i can tell u
divergent chessboard 
spend the daily 4 tickets there for the time being until this event ends and go ham on them
before the cn anni
so if im farming SP5, how would i go about rotating between two fleets
I heard her retrofit is more important..?
I mean getting her retrofit and levelling her skills are two different things, and theres the fast tactical training rn
Oh true
just max out the skill, it carries over to her retrofit anyways
this question is ambiguous 
there is a setting under the cat selection box in which u can rotate the mob and boss fleets
how many dorm space do you have again?
174
sorry dorm
8 dorm space
if all 6 mob fleet ships are in dorm and that's not enough then all I can say is take a break
nah the mob fleets aint a prob, more like im not sure how to build the fleets, using a 2-2 setup with extra ships to exp grind
for me usually by the end of the 3 runs the ships drop from 150 to 114 and that is when i take a break since i want always the 20% exp buff 
so what exactly is your problem now?
im 1 fleeting SP5 mostly and the second fleet is well, portland is dying
Mobile Phone bro
should i stop 1 fleeting?
is that Portland in fleet 2 not surviving boss?
i can't help with that
i suck at mobile tec
yep
others said increasing evasion helps, just making sure
she's level 100 and MLBed and retrofitted btw
what level is her
?
yes it should help
and at worst swap her into your fleet 1 to level her
I'm done with Agir, should I switch to PR5?
the stage has danger level ?
chances are your fleet 2 isn't killing fast enough so Portland jsut bites it
well she's prob at level 105 now 💀 my coins are out so i cant awaken her
then just 1fleet it
alr
i try to download on my pc, using emulator, but the internet got so slowed when downloading data, umm can you give me advice for emulator to use playing AL bro?
Bluestacks, LDplayer, MuMu, all should work fine but your mileage may vary
hold on, let me try to find it
yeah emulator performance varies between environments it is better to try at least 2 to see which one is better for u
if the first one you get works fine you don't really need to try a second one
Personal and anecdotal experience tells me LDplayer and MuMu works more consistently than Bluestacks or Nox
you usually only find another one if the one you use isn't turning out right
alr
I gave up on Nox quite a while ago and haven't heard of anyone using it nowadays
I've heard LDP is good now but BS works fine for me
used MuMu CN long ago and that was great too, but then it stopped supporting non-CN game so I had to drop it
yeah sounds like gear issues for the second fleet
are u in ch9 yet ? 
didn't try MuMu global
nah hold off on campaign to farm SP5 because eugen refuses to drop, at ch 8
if you're already at 8, clear to 9 and grind there, come back for eugem later there's still over a week
at 40k points and still no eugen
alr
if you're up to 40k maybe just buy her, just farm more points if you need to buy other stuff as well
Oh, that reminds me- prinz eugen-what is she? I saw that I'm going to get her soon. is she worth keeping/
OG Eugen is a very tanky CA but does basically nothing else besides tank
getting the base copy is basically free to newbies but we don't recommend raising her because she's not worth the cost for early game
Question for agir there is outside the purple gun one easy to obtain? outside the kron (parlament event) one
better than portland??
any idea why sam put these core kms sub in the collection tag
?
more durable than Portland, but irrelevant levels of durability and more expensive, and does less damage
Thx to gold bulin cost and beginner missions, no
Cuz you only need the tech pts you get from collection from those 2
Ooo..
it's based on the tech points needed to unlock stuff, and you don't need more than collection, probably stopped at collection because the MLB points don't add that much, and subs being harder to raise
for grinding chapter 9 i should grind 9-4, right?
9-1 for XP, 9-4 for coin, at least until you unlock higher
Depends on how easy you find getting her gun from PR4
It might take a couple of weeks depending on your print luck...
the c/39? really low luck XD
@steady beacon i think i have to go with 2 radars
i did my best 0 drops out of the last 5 prints in the last 5 days
besides the catchup prints you'll probably have Agir gun before you have enough prints for Agir to be really good
the series 2 could be more easy?
Sure, just go in and do your best
Nothing you can do when RNG messes with you lol
i have enough for have her at lvl 20 but yeah is a work in progress
yeah i was indirectly asking u who should i sacrifice
?
still 800k exp also for unlock
The agony of choice 

my idea is to swap carl for her so the vanguard is going to be agir mainz and krons
you still miss quite a bit of her durability before dev25
just keep researching PR4 and pick good researches that'll drop gear prints
you'll need to do it to get more Tenrai anyway, agir gun aside
I see it quite common, newer players "giving their all for the waifu", which ends up just making things more painful when it's something you can sort out at reasonable pace just playing efficiently
Is Laffey 2 torp focused?
Ngl, the issue is someone is going to have their hit rate utterly tanked and uh... I'm contemplating absurd options to try and save your ACC right now lol
Really wish for Aurora right now
OK, in view of trying to keep yourself synced and her fast cooldown, I think you should sacrifice UvH
Double shell and pray
welp i'm not newer xD just lazy about pr stuff
i have some pr 1 -2 and 3 ships and wanted now agir
She can be if you want her to
All jokes aside... she's more of an all-rounder really
All rounder
Like she definitely does not have an absurd skew like Shimakaze
she has decent-ish gun damage but the drones scale off TRP, so it depends on what your real question is
If you want absolute offense you can slap torps on her since she scales off trp, but that depends on you
and generally not worth it
Who deserves the rainbow gun between her and Sandy
if you're using both together I'd put on San Diego
but it could also depend on what your other DD gun options are
then yeh if just between those 2 I'd give it to San Diego and give Laffey probably one of the harbin guns
With MGM2 Sandy should win in the pure firepower damage department one would imagine, so I'd keep it on Sandy
Harbin or Pompeo gun according to your enemy armour type (assuming this is a boss, anyway)
which stage in 15
3 boss is 15-4 only
I haven't touched it yet, but I have it unlocked
Ngl, once you get Akizuki Kais you kinda forget what you're supposed to equip on DDs otherwise 
Well, apart from the blue guns on my torp memers anyway
you don't have to worry about multiple bosses until 15-3, and the DD guns won't be the thing that makes or breaks your fleet
Well I thought balancing out is important
not really, not this detail at least
As long as you're using good DD guns, the world won't end if you're not using the BiS
If sandy and laffey had much bigger gun damage to the point what gun they use makes or breaks the fleet it'd make sense but in this case if you slap a good dd gun you'd be set
All that matters is your vanguard is surviving, providing good enough damage and is shooting down planes
Noted
also shooting down suicide boats, of which the guns discussed should all do fine
Does High-Efficiency Combat Logistics Plan affects the morale too?
It does
so it's like time efficient only
what do i get in event shop after getting PR/DR prints and cog array
eugen/towel/oil/coins/whatever else
is uugen good
eugens good

Mugen or Hagumo?
will she help me in w13+
depends on what you lack
Hagumo?
i lack a good vanguard
and where are you in the game now
my vanguard does jack shit most of the time
Wait, was that her name? Portland Plus Ultra?
if you want good vanguard for 14/15 eugem isn't it
Haguro? Eugem would be a bit better
what chapter are you on now
well not a bit, she would be a lot better
Powercreep 
Eugen finally good
eugen was always good for one thing and one thing only
good damage, potent self-sustain, buffing
Eh. Not even good enough AA to not die in plane hell
I don't consider eugen and eugem to be the same ship for "how good said ship is"
Eugen was always a good tank, it's just you never really find a time out of your day to go out of your way to pick her over other options
early - mid portland is less expensive and required for missions
by mid - late you should have already unlocked PR and grabbed roon. agir and anchorage
Eugen dying in a plane hell is the player issue with AA, not Eugen's durability
my vanguard just doesnt do anything the torps just miss all the time
torps are RNG cope
From a late game boss fight stand point you would rather be using eugen over portland
thing is you keep saying your vanguards do nothing without telling us who these vanguards are and what chapter you're on
Isn't Portland ehp vs ch13 higher than Eugen?
Is my second fleet good?
Huh, was it?
Is your first fleet levelled?
im on 11-4 right now
2019-2020 calc
Before anything else, why is Unicorn in your second fleet?
I don't have mebot's table on hand but I suspect Eugen has higher eHP than Portland even on plane hells now
Because of prinz Eugen u passive
Yes i will show you later
So then who is healing your first fleet?
Eugens passive is recovered by herself very easily
Idk but since im using the normal prinz eugun im getting healing
Eugem can recover HP assuming shit is easy to kill
I don't see enough ships tagged to tell me what your actual vanguard is
... Since when can Eugen base heal...?
what the hell does that mean
This is my first fleet
Eugen muse worst than Roon muse?
the healing comes from volga
Oh, OK, you have Volga...
not eugen
the first 6 ships are the vanguard that i use
why are you using three fleets instead of 2
and which is your mob fleet or boss fleet
Anyways, from where you are at
- Drop kronshtadt
- Do not make a second fleet
Idk how to play i started 2 weeks ago
Since she equipped a toolbox
I'm looking at levels where early ship rec and newbie tips still apply in full force
its 3 fleets because im doing event and spreading ships for better morale efficiency
anyway heres the mob and boss fleet arranged
what if I told you what you're doing is plain wrong and not helping me understand what your actual vanguard problem is
Gonna take a stab that, at least in terms of combination potential due to Roon Muse's debuffs, yes...
But in other scenarios, I cannot really say for sure...
is that... Unicorn on your boss fleet?
boss and mob*
Should I show my whole ship?
images sent wrong
Saratoga, Hood and Portland move to mob, have Portland tank
Soyuz, Enterprise and Helena move to boss
unless you're trying to level Soyuz and Enterprise then they can stay put for now
if u get anchorage and agir ur vanguard situation will get massively upgraded and also fdg for the main line
but i think based on the pic u posted in the 27th the main fleet is more worrying 
also, vanguard doing low damage is normal
anyway what i mean about my vanguard not doing shit is seeing saratoga and hood whack 10 bars each off the boss and wipe the map of mobs
lategame is mostly main fleet damage unless you're using Unzen or Hindenburg
i thought im still somewhere in early-mid
you vanguard is mostly just to thin trash and suidcide boats for your main fleet to hit hard targets
vanguard for intercept purposes
alright then
i know my boss and mob have proper arrangements but im leveling the mob until its like 120
there's no clear definition of early-mid-late game, it's more of when your ships get the levels, LB and gear for the dynamic to shift, which usually by around ch6-7
also i have essex lying around does she go in boss or mob
i wont base ur progression on having soyuz but more of the gear u have too
generally having good fleets with bad gear isn't the play most of the time
but the opposite is true
What should i replace my unicorn with actually?i have alot ssr that i don't use
Who said that
does opsi mission reset on monthly reset?
used to be good
medicore nowadays be decent for ch13
always use unicorn.
u also should be limit breaking your ships
gascogne muse is whatever. do you have a better BB?
also u are using too many gold ships. it will hurt your progression
read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
if you haven't leveled her I wouldn't bother starting now
i have her MLB and lv95
find and slap those people
Only time I can imagine someone calling unicorn bad would be in a bossing fleet, but the easy solution to this problem is to move her to your mobbing fleet
I can't just limit break all, I'm struggling to level up some ships
is this supposed to be your mob fleet
she'll work in ch13 mobbing but I don't think you really need her
just cause theyre gold doesnt necessarily mean theyre good
@meager fox
this should be your fleet for now
penny/unicorn/taihou
portland/starter DD/helena
this is why the early recs are basically all low rarity ships, because at those levels you will lack bulins and coins to LB SRs and a lot of them are 🚮
With the bb center
What's the combo counter on the left when sorteing?
centre takes the bulk of main fleet damage so put bb/bc there because they have big hp
Just a funny event gimmick, doesnt affect gameplay
muse event gimmick, it's just counting number of mob nodes killed and does practically nothing
Okay thanks but this would probably be my second fleet since i did alot for my first fleet
that's not how the game works
vanguard first slot also gets hit alot, followed by 3rd slot and middle slot is safest
how many enemy flowers you've sunk, perfect means you got s clear
theres a 3* condition called full combo, basically this is what it's referring to
you use one fleet you can actually raise
not 2 fleets that get everything spread out and not be enough to clear content
if u use your current fleet u will struggle... u wont have enough bulins to limit break them and u will hit a wall at some point
I played the game without any guidance at first
which is why you're having trouble now
it is fine u havent invested a lot into em. they are all 3 stars meaning u spent 0 gold bulins which is good
I mean you don't have to copy the starter fleet completely
Its all relative, you can grind low level stages until you have every character maxed out, this is just advice to get there faster and more efficiently
I think you'll be fine using that MLB eugen to tank while raising the other starter fleet ships
but you'll eventually want to raise Portland anyway for newbie missions
I don't have penny and helena
generally u want to reach chapter 9 at least before thinking about raising a second fleet. once u are there u can raise whoever u want.
you can just join a random guild then when you’ve played for longer you can join a better guild
yeh but guild shop doesn't need you to be in a guild to use it, and you also start with 4k guild coins
What are the chances for the guild shop to sell T3 Blueprints
it's random, just wait for it to rotate in
Rngus blessing?
you can use Unicorn and Eugen to carry the "new" ships for the starter fleet
aw shit i need to do iron blood fleet tech for agir now
Which
Penny/helena/portland etc
what ship's worth getting in the guild shop once I got uni, penny, port, and helena? I'm new btw
My normal one is level 90 while the u is probably 30
use Eugen + Unicorn to carry starter DD + Portland and Pennsylvannia, the third main fleet ship is whatever but for now I recommend raising Shinano-chan
Are subs experiencing OOA debuff cuz they forcefully lose ammo
subs aren't affected by your ammo count and they have their own ammo which is needed to be summoned
Isn't shinano chan is temporary unless i do her trust mission?
the trust mission is just keep clearing stages
Just play the game normally and you will get her
Unless you stop playing for a week youll get her
have to be ch3+ or something I think but event stages should also work
yeh unless you really don't sortie over the next week or so you'll get her
Also unicorn needs to be lvl 90 to ve retrofited yes?
should be
Thats pain
i prefarmed all retro for sandy who do i farm next
Unicorn will innevietably end up being your highest exp unit and shes good even before retro, so dont worry about it
*2 weeks
Farming the current event sp5 doesnt give that much exp anymore so any recommendation
if you're in a guild and actively getting enough guild coins you can use guild shop for dupes to LB
otherwise start spending on things like books and plates that will be harder to come by in early game
the other guild shop ships are mostly just collection or tech fodder
we're nearly a week in by now, how long is the event running
If you got essentials from shop then push campaign
2 weeks
so about 9 days left
I got to 8-4 but my nj and kron drank all the oils (7k to 1k2)
Point being, that unit is damn near unmissable
event XP is always bad, it's up to you whether you have enough event points to stop and go back to campaign, assuming you're past ch9
Can you get to world 9 atleast?
Almost
then keep at SP5, at least it has oil cap until you can grind 9-1
Uncapped stages 😩
I guess I'll do this
roon or santa louis
But world 9 doesn't give gear skin
And last day of the month you need to grind 1000 AP
saint louis*
Roon for fdg
neither
minmax
what is fdg i hear this alot
Do i consider raising tirpitz if i want to do fdg
enhance with coins until d30 then convert prints for proto core
Friedrich der grosse
not relevant, he's asking what to do with the PR1 prints
you can enhance roon with coins and it'll be a long way till FdG
Should I replace krons since someone said i should drop her
One of the better permanently available BB's
Yes
If you want to 
I believe your Kron is 3 star
Of course
Well i have 0 iron blood bb aside from her
that's why you do chessboard
We have KMS event next month
has it already been announced
Kms which
I'm not counting on "Carl's ID means next event is KMS"
"announced" by Carl ID 

I'm waiting for all the folks to mald when they find out it isn't then, I don't find it reliable grounds to speculate
Well, I do
In preparation for CN anni
Ded week until cn anniv 
Perma small, then prelude
the simple assumption is don't take any word for it as long as it's not an official announcement
Oh yeah one more thing, the stuffs use to craft in gear lab is buyable in opsi?
Partially buyable, mostly dropable
Certain node or every node?
in the blue ports theres a shop you can buy stuff, im pretty sure every type of material is sold there but theres a limit
Nobody hyps it 
Well you're best off just doing the content, but once youre out you just spam C5's and farm cats in hope you get lucky
Idk I have seen people the past month
New Yorck skin give me Rondo!!!!

Any good ships?
❌
Ah, again, being lucky isn't my thing
Sure? Emden can be used for faction fleeting hoes
Missing Emden 
I believe in you!
b-b-but faction fleet is bad right
Embden is hot, but not good
That seems like an oxymoron
Maybe KMS is considerable
Faction fleets as a concept isnt bad, but using bad ships to satisfy a faction requirement is bad
Or something like NJ-Enty-Indep
Just go to general b4 we get redacted 

Does uni skill lvl get carried over when she gets retrofited chat?
Yea
Yes
I guess im spamming her training now
All retrofits
So you are making worse fleets to satisfy faction requirements? So faction fleets are worse?
Faction fleets as a concept are still bad since you would limit yourself from using ships from other factions in which case it would have developed a better fleet, not to mention the cost and investmemts just to make it work just for it fall short
it's actually more to other way. but usually the one with faction reqs are filled with good ship that just happened to be faction needed
like imagine doing KMS mob fleet(they don't have healer)
Also pretty meh
IJN CV fleet is a great example of "good ships that turned out to be the same faction"
building around faction first as a premise locks you out of options
Oh sorry I think I worded that poorly. Im saying that a faction fleet can still be strong if it doesn't come at the consequence of using bad ships. While this is unlikely to happen, seeing a faction buff shouldnt automatically make you think that its inherently useless
Helps they get an UR each year 
even then that fleet is still missing Helena, or Sirius, which means it'd be overall lacking
I actually don't know who should i replace krons with, any recommendations?
The best CB for cvs is eagle 
Faction fleet bad
But why would you make that stop you from making one 


I'd raise Portland and use Eugen at the mean time
anything is good enough if you know what you're doing 
that eugen is a much better option considering your kron has 0 lb
Which Eugen
The oathed
the one thats oathed
No one? Do you have 4 urins?
third slot just use a dps
your dock looks like its too early for you to be using second fleet
Oh yeah he's missing a 3rd ship
Gameplay wise not significant, but 'tis was a good event for historians and lore hunters
Doubt it, and then you don t want to use them on Kronk
how can you look at that dock and think they even have 4 URins
The newbie doesn't have 120k like us
g-gif in my gph??
us? just you man, im starved for bulin too
Who's better to invest between wolf pack or fishes sub ?
Skill issue
Well fishes are generally better but the difference is marginal , just upgrade whichever one is closer
What should i pick up with my core data
starved for bulins? just get 70k merit a month
fishpack is slightly better, if you already invested into one just stick to it
/coredata
Is there a niche use for wolf pack that makes them better than uss trio?
#bot-spam /coredata
teach me how to buy UR bulins with medals pvp man
soon tm
Let's keep the gifs out of here ye?
1000 specialised core?
yeah but still timegated
ive been out of typuc from the game is it still the same?
-farm daily, level ships to 120, go to opsi farm UR prints get stronger or is there new shit
TB
also research and events, thats about it
theres challenge mode and META if youre interested in difficult stuff
gold plates
I keep seeing people say this but like
y tho
CB is CB if you don't have any yet
I guess it slows down catching up on UR CVs and BBs but it's not that bad of an opportunity cost if you're getting every UR bullin available, I think?
there's a lot more good gear in gear lab other than wyvern
after you get like 2 or 3 you start making other ur gear like twin 100 kai and the 57mm aa gun
457 and drake gun also craftable but both very low prio, theres a new rocket parallel tb but thats also low prio so
wyverns are only the main aim when you don't have enough of them 
Cause a new UR next month
even if you get all bulins we barely get enough
She's a vanguard and isn't really that impactful considering there are alternatives 
you get enough tanks for 4 fleets from just research alone
i see tyty
so naturally a tank that costs ur bulin would be less desirable
Plymouth Anchor Brest Agir Azuma , lots of options in PR, kron isn't very special 
which ur gear lab gear should i prioritize?
/gearlab
Is drake gun just there cuz top secret?
wdym?
Drake gun 🚮
457 and spearfish use it
Guys
I see
Does mails expire ?
no
finally i m free after 20 hours
wish me gl for harbiter boys
U r not
#al-general will cheer for you i'm sure
1, EVER
Start an alt
reset tomorrow 
3 hours for me
What should I buy ?
still tomorrow technically 
Gold Bulin
Living on the edge 
That said, ganbatte~
only 162 to burn, I call that a win compared to last 2 months 
I see I'll gacha till deatg
save your pulls, new ultra rare coming soon in a few weeks
I did, I meant requisittinv
this is 120 agir as promised 
barely enough coins
requisition is a scam
NOOOOOO
requisition pool is 🚮
just save the medals for bulins when you'll need them
or just it to buy shit like books and dorm food
I GOT NEW JERSEY LETS GO (real)

oh i forgot about the 3rd fg 109 
even the PR/DR prints are an okay deal if you're not done
Leave the blogging nexg time somewhere else please
sam should add grey plates to the medal priority for lategamers
missing 16 prints
burn proto right ?
if you're not doing PR4 anymore sure
16 shouldn't take too long
How do ypu get tech points ?
I keep 100 of each series gear print selectors sitting around just in case, but I have proto core to burn, not sure about you
what was the command again, /fleettech?
/fleettech
Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
- Collecting the ship (~20%)
- Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
- Achieving level 120 (~35%)
-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD
Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.
For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
Ngl, I realised thanks to certain inspirations from other sources that uh... I vastly overestimated the potency of the anti-shell shield... and that it is actually possible to full auto one-fleet no sub, no Helena kill April Temperance using BBs
So... with enough Helena luck for your BBs, I wonder if it's necessary to spend those protos right now
How about give it a try first, see how it goes? If your CVs aren't doing enough, then just reset the battle and get the Bf109G if needed
Ohhhhhhhh
Should I do pr6 and grab shimanto (100 prints away) or get 2nd ply gun
So if I just keep on mlbing Unicorn over and over again and then dismantle her again and again, creating a vicious cycle of pain and suffering I will get a tiny bit of Tech point, right ?
I took it all 
finish a series before you go backwards for gear, otherwise you'll just keep being behind with every new series release
While the gun maybe amazing it's still important to finish other seasons
I dev30ed ply and Harbin just so you know
Only for the first time ?
fleettech doesnt work that way bud
you can go back to do more PR5 after you're done with 6, and maybe again when 7 releases and you're done with that, and sooner or later q152s will be in lab or something
Ah dang
Still gotta finish the rest of the system, gear is important but so are finishing seasons
fleet tech are milestone achievements per unique ship entry, reacquiring the same ship and raising it doesn't do anything
The faster you complete your seasons the faster you can jump backwards for the gear
Do I need to paste /fleettech again?
So what do I do
Not necesssary just bump the message.
the only series you ignore are the "archived" ones, which would be PR1 and 2 for now, and maybe 3? I don't remember
keep doing 6 until you're finished with PR6 ships?
Do you only have ply and harbin finished while the rest are unfinished?
Alright
Yes they're untouched
tech points and fleet tech are only obtainable once per ship
you can go back to 5 assuming you still have PR5 ships left to work on, otherwise finish 6 so you're not still catching up when 7 releases
Yet she's a CV or sth
she's a carrier, she has airstrikes, not salvos
Finish them then finish pr6 THEN thats when you worry about gear
and it's Shinano 
If you're not dying you can do whatever you want
I'm at world 1 with a lvl100 Shinano I won't die

So I get the gear along the way? Alright
Yes, what matters is you finish the ships first and foremost
you can do gear focus after you're no longer on backfoot with research
This is the salvo/barrage I'm talking about, yet it's dmg is quite unsignificant
A d30 Harbin isn't finished but I would take meta shimanto anyway
that barrage is 🚮
Aw man 😦
Thats because the butterfly barrage isn't really her main selling point
not all barrages are made equal, some look more fancy and do absolutely jack shit
Her main selling point is her airstrikes and her airstrike barrages
what's the PR priority order at this point anyways
4 > 6 > 5, I guess?
And her utility
4 > 5 > 6
I'm implanted with the idea to just grab the meta, so I think that's what I did wrong
4 is still good to start on because gear good and Agir/Hakuryuu no coining yet
AIRSTRIKE BARRAGE ? I know her first slot letting put anything into it is quite OP (puns not intended) but AIRSTRIKE BARRAGE ?
she has other specials besides the fancy butterflies, yes
5 should be second since plymouth brest harbin are amazing, you get another mob cb and you get an incredible dps with a support ability
well it's possible that we'll be recommending a PR5 start this time next year
Can t3 tech boxes be composed or no?
b-but tenrai
So wait should I mlbjng every ship that I found for feeltech points ?
Up to you what you want to do. Shimanto probably better for gems than plymouth
Or just the one that's needwd like ironblood ?
If you smart with how you approach pr4 you should be coming out of there with 2 tenrais
the assumption obviously being Tenrai will be archived by then, like drake gun is now
should I 1k oil 
Won't change much 
The ships you actually use are more important than faction tech
OH YEAH
Even if pr4 were to get full coining, the problem is the gear and the ability to grab tenrai from reaearches is still on the table
the assumption is of course the gear will also be in lab, if not then yeh we'll probably stay on PR4 for a bit longer
What should I do priorily as a newbie ? Stages ? Events ?

