gameplay-help

[steady beacon]

... You can buy spec cores???

[round hare]

They should hire you for marketing team

[opal stream]

time to become zootuber

[cobalt rapids]

you can whale dupes

[steady beacon]

Ahhhh

[round hare]

Like core?

[cobalt rapids]

like ship duplicates

[stark quiver]

cube = nj/nano

[slender jackal]

Thank you for making me understand opsi more and more
Sorry for asking for more help but I gotta know, are currencies reset?

[eager mulch]

yes

[slender jackal]

Even the purple and orange ones?

[eager mulch]

just like in real life, money gone

[opal stream]

everything resets

[whole crypt]

currency reset but converted into vouchers for use in exchange shop

[slender jackal]

Fuck... Unlucky
Well thanks for asnwer

[cobalt rapids]

everything in this box

[slender jackal]

Rip my 200.000 monies

[opal stream]

rip my 500k

[eager mulch]

cant lose monies if you dont have monies

[whole crypt]

you're supposed to get the currency to be reset to vouchers so you can buy shit for next month

[slender jackal]

I tried spending them but yeah..

[steady beacon]

Well, if you can't spend any more, just hoard them for the vouchers
Which can buy you quite useful things, after all

[whole crypt]

if you grind enough you're suposed to end up with excess currency so you get vouchers to buy coordinates and stuff the following month

[slender jackal]

Hmmm i see

[whole crypt]

don't worry about "losing" the coins, it's a monthly cycle

[slender jackal]

Well I didn't continue with opsi for long time so that is why I had so much

[whole crypt]

it's not a lot

[slender jackal]

I might as well ask about next thing if that is okay
How to get last star here?

[steady beacon]

Luck
You need the data logging tower to spawn in that zone
And then you need to use it

[whole crypt]

repeat the zone until data logging tower spawns
then interact with the tower

[cobalt rapids]

this a data logging tower

[whole crypt]

also 200k OS coins isn't really a thing, grinders get something like this

[slender jackal]

Oh that! Okay thanks. I wouldn't get so far in opsi without y'all

[whole crypt]

(you'll probably be fine with about half of that)

May arb is strength?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

does moshi ijn gear shift timing or its just extra skill proc

[steady beacon]

Extra skill proc at 5s

[stark quiver]

What week in the cruise pass will I be able to get the bulin

[eternal moth]

Well, never seen this issue before

[elfin hollow]

can't wait to get vanguard so i can use bani in my mob opsi fleet

[worldly pewter]

do the stages even gave a multiplier in them in this event ?

[steady beacon]

The confusion is strong with that error
Map from Parallel Superimposition, currency from this event, and placed in W13 Hard...

[steady beacon]

This event? No

[worldly pewter]

wow

[whole crypt]

earliest should be like week 5 or 6 if only free pass

[silk sphinx]

Isn’t it always week 6?

[whole crypt]

shrug, never done it free so not sure exactly how much more you'll need

[worldly pewter]

we need another week

[still gate]

are st lois or neptune better than portland (mlb, partially retrofit)?

[stark quiver]

Also btw, which parallel torp planes are best for anti light, or does it matter

[viscid swift]

Earliest absolute is week 5

I was up to 89 or so yesterday with all the missions then unlocked maxed

[whole crypt]

technically spearfish, but depends on what fight this is actually for

[stark quiver]

No spearfish, but, fighting cm

[icy mountain]

if i pull on this limited banner will the pity transfer over to the new UR banner?

[silk sphinx]

I’ve completed all sp missions and am finishing up on this week

Highest I will get to is 97. Next week is mandatory

[whole crypt]

I just left converging on my carriers for CM

[silk sphinx]

Not sure how you’re counting cheeky

[atomic abyss]

you're gonna be able to retro portland fully long before either louis or neptune will be useful

[viscid swift]

I just underestimated how much one week's worth actually gave you

[silk sphinx]

*overestimated

[silk sphinx]

The 400 points pity yes. The UR banner will have its own banner specific pity for the UR, and this 400 pts pity won’t apply there

[worldly pewter]

oh he said new ur banner

imagine piling up pity before the banner release

[silk sphinx]

End of next month people, prep your cube reserves

[steady beacon]

Well, from the wiki... the SP missions give 5580 points in total and everything can be completed by 4th week at latest... that gives a remainder of 4420
Each week gives 780 points
780x5=3900
780x6=4680
Although, after my derps yesterday, please double check my maths...

[stark quiver]

Can’t do math

[whole crypt]

just buy pass

[steady beacon]

That works also

[silk sphinx]

Feels like you’re undercounting

[steady beacon]

Undercounting what

[wind hazel]

just... just do your missions

[silk sphinx]

Now it’s over counting

[steady beacon]

... But the wiki said... 3 groups of 60, 3 groups of 120, 1 group of 240 per week...?

[inland shoal]

I can't read

[steady beacon]

This is what I get for not having my cruise missions available anymore to actually check in-game...

[wind hazel]

this is correct

[steady beacon]

So, are you implying the wiki is wrong then?

[whole crypt]

just buy pass and be done by week 4

[silk sphinx]

The 780 per week seems right, maybe the SP count is wrong

[steady beacon]

Well, since you have the missions list available, you can verify it 👀
Although I wouldn't blame you if you didn't want to, since there's a fair number of them

[silk sphinx]

Can only see the topmost layer

In I guess a month

[forest palm]

it should take like 6 weeks granted you did everything it should be like 2 to 3 missions from week 6 to finish it as an F2P

[forest palm]

ya this really doesn't sound right at all

[sudden briar]

Yo if I leave an OpSi sector before finishing all the enemies if I come back will everything be the same

[silk sphinx]

If it’s an explored or secured or stronghold map yes

[sudden briar]

I see I see

[silk sphinx]

If it’s a hidden or abyssal then no

[sudden briar]

Thanks!

[steady beacon]

Looking closely, the wiki has an error either way because the first row of the SP missions has
Four iterations of 60, four iterations of 120, and one iteration of 240, with total on the right listed as 720 but the actual total would be 960...

[wind hazel]

you can login other server to verify it yourself

[forest palm]

ya...that has happened a few times with the wiki...

[silk sphinx]

That sounds correct actually

[forest palm]

it's a source of information sure, it can be good even, but it's also good to double check things

[steady beacon]

Well, let's recalculate assuming 960 then...

[silk sphinx]

5820 + 5*780= 9720, which is correct. Who’s the lucky green name who’s going to take care of this

[forest palm]

I've done this song, and dance long enough to know

[steady beacon]

Mystery solved

[stark quiver]

If I’m using Soyuz who’s at 199 reload with nj who’s at 176 reload in cm, will they mess up each others timing

[whole crypt]

try and find out

[cobalt rapids]

for one if u use her with nj she gets 10% rld which u have to factor in

[stark quiver]

Alright

I’ll run Soyuz with bis2 then and see how that goes

[wind hazel]

you can run CV too

[cobalt rapids]

2nd bbs can block each other so just consider that aswel

[stark quiver]

If I’m using another bb, would I want Soyuz to fire before or after them, and I’m also using haku in the fleet with prolly does t make a difference

[whole crypt]

the firing order matters less than keeping Soyuz on 20s

[eternal moth]

It doesn't matter, her debuff occurs when she loads, not fires

[cobalt rapids]

as long as you dont have a bb cucking soyuz then its fine

[stark quiver]

I’m running these two, so I’ll try and see how it goes

[inland shoal]

Even if you have a BB cucking soyuz the barrage should still fire at the same time

[eternal moth]

Why the autoloaders? What are you fighting?

[whole crypt]

it shouldn't affect too much

[cobalt rapids]

a slow bb could desync soyuz by cucking her with hpfcr

[stark quiver]

Cm, and I got a +6 reload cat

[inland shoal]

Well on the first round what I said is true yeah

[viscid swift]

well, the barrage will still go off if you have another BB cucking her for like one salvo but it'll add up since Soyuz's timing will get moved later if it's consistent

[whole crypt]

I think it's safer to have the other BBs go slower than Soyuz by a tiny bit if you really want to time it out

[opal stream]

just use cv instead if you dont want to mess with that

[stark quiver]

Got cucked right away 💀

[whole crypt]

if they go faster than soyuz you need a bigger window early in the fight, which might get them to cuck Soyzu on the other end if you take long enough

[stark quiver]

Problem is I only have haku and not nano as well, I can also run either enty or implac

[opal stream]

also cv clear faster

[whole crypt]

why not Enterprise and Implacable, with rocket planes

[elfin hollow]

how many tenrais/wyverns/457mms is it ok to have?

[opal stream]

you can even drop implac and just run haku enty

[elfin hollow]

i got 2/5/5, idk if i should go for more tenrais

[steady beacon]

It's OK to have... as many as you want lol

[eternal moth]

I used YT2, Imp and Kear for about a 4 minute clear

[silver lintel]

5 457s

[whole crypt]

you don't need more than like 2 or 3 457s
Tenrais maybe 4-5, Wyverns probably a bit more
depends on how lazy you are to swap

[stark quiver]

Tenrai or helldiver for enty? Cm

[hollow gust]

You only need 2-3 max tenrais

[jaunty vault]

tenrai is better than helldiver

[steady beacon]

Idt there's ever a scenario you choose Helldiver over Tenrai

[eternal moth]

Timing

[whole crypt]

Helldiver timing is like... a tiny sliver from Tenrai

[steady beacon]

God, at that point... I surrender...

[jaunty vault]

tenrai isn't much slower ye

[whole crypt]

you're not likely going to swap between those two for timing

[stark quiver]

Something like this?

[atomic abyss]

i have.... multiple times alr
despite having a tenrai for 1 week

[eternal moth]

I assume you don't have York2?

[stark quiver]

Yup, missed the event cuz of inactivity

Having yk2 and vanguard would’ve made life easier

[atomic abyss]

im starting to think it'd be better for me to go avp haku nano than nagato haku nano...

[hollow gust]

[whole crypt]

but it is?

[atomic abyss]

for rodM i mean

[hollow gust]

Nagato is only good for meta , that's only place she excels rn

[whole crypt]

Nagato is needed if you going for that last strike, otherwise

[steady beacon]

Are you having trouble still being fast enough to hit the required timings

[atomic abyss]

i squeezed a 4th strike out of nano

[steady beacon]

Depends on how far you're willing to gimp that DB slot

[whole crypt]

as long as you can reliably 2-3 shot Rodney call it a win

[cobalt rapids]

she also excels at killing hermit with shinhaku

[atomic abyss]

+/- 10k on average

way more consistent than ark ever was of course...

[silver lintel]

I have 600k ++ with ark haku enty lmao

[atomic abyss]

these are only 120 after all

[steady beacon]

Damn, if Shina is beating Haku, even with 4 vs 3 airstrikes, something I feel has gone wrong 👀

[crimson glacier]

whats up

[stark quiver]

Running 2 cv is doing less dmg but doesn’t cuck Soyuz so

[steady beacon]

That or my Shina doesn't like me

[atomic abyss]

depends on how many of haku's torps hit tbh

if haku gets good rng and has all her torps it it's dandy

[steady beacon]

Ah right, her first strike is whiffing due to movement then?

[whole crypt]

Shinano and Hakuryuu not that far ballpark wise, so misses make a lot of difference

[atomic abyss]

yep
i pushed haku down speed wise

cos i had an easier time to speed up nano

[steady beacon]

Yep, that's fair

[atomic abyss]

ofc i could just drop the tenrai from haku and my life would me much easier...

[steady beacon]

Iirc the Haku 4 combo used 1771 Firefly, which I don't think you have

[silver lintel]

My cope setup

[vale spindle]

If it works it works

[whole crypt]

easier to just grab everything then copy dalao homework

[atomic abyss]

...i did my own math

[cobalt rapids]

suisei 12a is fine

[atomic abyss]

cos no oaths, no 125, minimal tech

if i pushed them to 125 i'd likely need to re-do the math...

[opal stream]

step 1 copy CN
step 2 fail
step 3 complaint
step 4 profit?

[steady beacon]

Ender operating on a real poverty setup
Hmmm, where's your Agir at

[cobalt rapids]

no cv rld and oaths ofc cant copy

[stark quiver]

About bis2’s +15% reload, do I take the total reload time, get 15% it it and add it to the rld?

[atomic abyss]

agir is 115 and d28

[steady beacon]

I think at your current place, you can probably use Agir to slow for Haku without doing any of that utter nonsense that got her kicked from the original fleet in the first place

[atomic abyss]

haku is only d30

[whole crypt]

use a calculator
15% RLD is not 15% reload time

[atomic abyss]

i mean if you saw my nano's gear you'd do a spit take

[silver lintel]

Ngl my ark does pretty insane dmg

[atomic abyss]

ark does insane as long as assault carrier procs

[steady beacon]

Dev 28 is fine... Idk about Level 115 tbf...

[opal stream]

ive been using helena tank for rodm
actually better than using kirovm

[tranquil crescent]

hows my dock?

[atomic abyss]

i've had runs where she clocked 180k on her own

[whole crypt]

ngl if you can't copy dalao homework 3-shotting is fine, we're still not getting consistent 1-shots even after support barrage

[atomic abyss]

get UR bulins, chuck it into zwei
retro uni asap

and work on portland

[cobalt rapids]

how is she surviving with sg manjuu or u just give up on last strike

[atomic abyss]

otherwise, noice

[opal stream]

no sg
she only scan 3 times
so she can die early

[whole crypt]

not fast comp eh

[atomic abyss]

my nano's gear is

[eternal basalt]

Instead of wasting UR, see what we get next month

[crimson glacier]

dogshit

[tranquil crescent]

how i get those

[atomic abyss]

is for rodM timing

ofc it's scuffed

[crimson glacier]

why even bother being fast if you do literally 0 dmg

[steady beacon]

... Dear God, man

[atomic abyss]

i mean you say that but nano is tied with haku on damage for me

[vale spindle]

nano can do better

[cobalt rapids]

clearly haku is scuffed aswell

[crimson glacier]

so using good gear still gives you literally 0 dmg?

[tranquil crescent]

how i get UR bulins

[atomic abyss]

i don't think this is scuffed

[whole crypt]

whatever lets you 3-shot rodney

[viscid swift]

why not try using Fulmar first before resorting to Skyrocket for the first slot

[eternal basalt]

Monthly specialised core, pass, events

[crimson glacier]

then your fleet is scuffed if that doesnt do more dmg

[cobalt rapids]

nope but prob haku misses the stop timings

[atomic abyss]

too slow iirc

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC click the common resource guide here although it doesn't account for the updated medal shop yet

[ember totem]

[whole crypt]

1 every 2 months from cruise pass
1 every UR event/rerun in milestone
4000 spec cores, you can earn up to 5k and buy 1k with medals each month

[steady beacon]

... Checking the traneptora calculator (which, to be fair, has produced mistakes so far)
The Saiun/Fulmar/Saiun setup is 0.2s slower on 0 tech, no oath compared to Skyrocket/Suisei12A/Saiun... is that 0.2s really completely unworkable?

[crimson glacier]

is this your average?

[atomic abyss]

yep

[steady beacon]

0.18s with beacons

[crimson glacier]

my shinano does more than your entire backline

[atomic abyss]

they are 120 lol

[crimson glacier]

yeah but haku does a lot more than shinano

125 is just extra 10%

[opal stream]

if fs5
without fs5 about the same

[atomic abyss]

fs0

I mean my all time record against rodM was this

[vale spindle]

Oh no

[whole crypt]

what are you even trying to achieve now though, if you have a consistent 3-shot you're fine

[opal stream]

i think he dies early

[atomic abyss]

nope

helena always lives to tell the tale

[crimson glacier]

and why is noshiro there

[whole crypt]

torp cope I guess

[atomic abyss]

because i dont have unzen
and anything else not a tank dies

[crimson glacier]

yeah but the shimakaze isnt doing dmg either

[atomic abyss]

kazagumo will keel most likely

[cobalt rapids]

whats ur cv reload

[vale spindle]

only one way to find out

[whole crypt]

thing is, we still don't know what you're trying to achieve out of this conversation

[crimson glacier]

kaza is fine

[atomic abyss]

nosh is 121
kaza is 115
shima is 115
sirius is 115
helena is 125

[atomic abyss]

trying to get to 2hko?

[steady beacon]

Ngl with what glimpses I have of your equipment, you can probably push 2-shot with a little bit more optimising...

[whole crypt]

doesn't look like you'll get to consistent 2-shots

[viscid swift]

to be a bit pessimistic until you get Haku and Nano at least to 125 that's not happening

[atomic abyss]

why are they 115? i dont have coins

[opal stream]

wanna try bb?

[whole crypt]

at least not before a bunch more leveling and sorting gear out

[vale spindle]

BB will do worse

he doesn't have enough leveled rainbow bbs firstly

[steady beacon]

Is Haku whiffing only her first airstrike? Or is your speed such that she also sometimes whiffs second airstrike?

[opal stream]

nah
bb actually does a lot than you think
good bb have aimed barrages

[atomic abyss]

i dont have zwei
bb discussion is meaningless here

[cobalt rapids]

whats ur cv reload at

[whole crypt]

what torva means when he said your whole backline does less than Shinano

[atomic abyss]

tech? ...9

well i have enough data paacks to 125 nano and haku so

[plucky jackal]

Guys, I have a question!!!!

[whole crypt]

you can ask normally, kthx

[crimson glacier]

just dont think 125 will be that of a big deal

[whole crypt]

125 might be a deal if it affects what he can do with timings

[crimson glacier]

its 2 more reload on shinano

[silver lintel]

This is with 2 scans

[viscid swift]

on it's own no but it's at least a benchmark at this point

[plucky jackal]

What we do with those Akashi boxes? Do I even need them?

[whole crypt]

but damage wise it won't be a significant bump

[atomic abyss]

lvl advantage tho?

[jaunty vault]

wdym akashi boxes

[crimson glacier]

it 10%

[whole crypt]

what akashi boxes

[eager mulch]

cat boxes?

[opal stream]

small things add up to big dmg

[vale spindle]

If there's nothing regarding claiming in your depot or mail then it's cosmetic

[crimson glacier]

10% is something but it isnt skyrocketing your dmg

[whole crypt]

is this one of those "I got cat boxes but I haven't unlocked cattery" things

[plucky jackal]

Nope, it's in inventory. Hold up i'll show a pic

[vale spindle]

no it's not

[jaunty vault]

you cant use cat boxes from depot..

[eager mulch]

5 dollars he talking about meowfficer boxes

[whole crypt]

@plucky jackal

[vale spindle]

There's some cosmetic thing regarding akashi gifts or something

[opal stream]

underlevel
+10 gear
no tech
no oath

name more

[vale spindle]

all of that does compound yes

[vale spindle]

Except no oath that's not necessary

[jaunty vault]

lol

[plucky jackal]

What im gonna do with this?

[vale spindle]

Rip im wrong

[eager mulch]

new experience?

[vale spindle]

HQ -> cattery

[plucky jackal]

Thx

[vale spindle]

You might not be high enough commander level

[plucky jackal]

Yep, only 24

[vale spindle]

so just hold on until then

[plucky jackal]

More like endure but k

[vale spindle]

same diff

[plucky jackal]

🤷

[whole crypt]

at this point I'm not sure why ender is trying so hard to push for a 2-shot, doesn't look like he can get a consistent one and it's easier to just wait for assists or do 1 more fight

better to just forget about it and go about leveling shit normally

[opal stream]

wait till support barrage get stronger for 2 shots 🧠

[jaunty vault]

let him do what he wants

[steady beacon]

What, is there a rule against trying

[atomic abyss]

well this comp is more stable than the original avp ark centaur comp so....

at least with this one i can clear 450k reliably
the other one is a 🎲 thanks to ark

[sweet delta]

No but there's a feature on discord called threads

[mental marlin]

hey, my fleet is unicorn, penny, shinano chan and portland, helena, z23 -> should i swap in san diego?

[atomic abyss]

no, definitely not

[mental marlin]

do u mean me?

[jaunty vault]

ye

[atomic abyss]

yes, don't swap in san diego

[steady beacon]

Is Nano RLD at L120 126 Ender?

[mental marlin]

gg, i just bought her for 80 medails ( i thought she was good )

[whole crypt]

she has her uses, but not in early game

[crimson glacier]

san diego is good, after insanely expensive retrofit

[eager mulch]

126 rld @ lv 120

[keen sable]

Consider it an investment for the future

[steady beacon]

Level 125 is 128

[mental marlin]

ok thanks for help

[atomic abyss]

ye it's 126

kaza needs to be alive for ara to work right
unlike sirius?

[viscid swift]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

0 tech so just copy the fastest comp in pins and ull do better
@opal stream helena tank doesnt do anything for me but mby this comp is 2 fast, she also alr died by 3rd strike

[steady beacon]

OK, accounting for beacon, 9 RLD, and 20% RLD buff
Traneptora gives Saiun/Fulmar/Saiun 18.79s
Skyrocket/Suisei12A/Saiun 18.61s
Now, it has been wrong before, quite painfully... but with that cooldown difference who is Shinano running into if you are a bit slower?
Or else, can you just modify whoever she's running into a little bit to get out of her way?

[atomic abyss]

i suppose it's a why not

...oh i think i know

what's the 4th strike timing with that?

[opal stream]

i dont run nugget anymore

[atomic abyss]

iirc i had issues with nano's bombs not hitting before the final 10s

[eager mulch]

nagato oath skin

[atomic abyss]

with SR the bombs hit at around 12s left

[whole crypt]

Shinano missing last strike sounds correct if she's the slower carrier

[atomic abyss]

she's the faster

[whole crypt]

[cobalt rapids]

everything is oathed

[opal stream]

whale

[steady beacon]

The calculator gives uh...
75.96 for Skyrocket, 76.65 for the double Saiun...
Uh... does she miss... good question
76.65 definitely does scare me...
But does 75.96 really do that much better...

[atomic abyss]

my rationale was that she shd be faster to she meets rod's stopping points with her converging
and haku can make do hitting the tenrai bombs

[steady beacon]

All I do know is that my current Shina hits 18.58, and she completes her fourth airstrike with some time to spare...

Well, my current Shina for one particular comp anyway

[opal stream]

that can actually miss
you need like high 74 to comfortably hit everything

[whole crypt]

what's your current comp?

[atomic abyss]

yeah i double checked my test results
the fulmar does miss the 10s

if she had the 125 maybe it'd be fine...

or i +13 something
but coins
aaaaaa

[steady beacon]

There's a part of me feeling that the Fulmar missing is less bad than the Skyrocket doing nothing at all, but that may just be me

[opal stream]

time imp slow with unzen mark35

[atomic abyss]

not the fulmar missing
with the fulmar my last strike's bombs hit after the 10s starts

[whole crypt]

how's the consistency on that

[atomic abyss]

perfectly

now the bombs hits at the 12s mark
...nagato hits the 11s with her salvo instead

[opal stream]

idk
i dont really look
but i guess you still need at least 2 3 scans
so 50 50

[steady beacon]

By "last strike's bombs", you mean her converging torps as well?

[atomic abyss]

i suppose i can try replacing nosh with sirius

[whole crypt]

guess I'll just stick with Nagato and call it a day for the next month

[steady beacon]

Jeez, I may be underestimating <1 sec difference cooldown...

Idk about her bombs at least, but most, if not all, of her conv torps land in my runs...

[whole crypt]

CN anniv should land before next showdown? but probably would have reached 70k by then anyway

[atomic abyss]

i did try calcing for a fast haku and a slower shinano
but im not very convinced i can make the calcs work with that

[steady beacon]

It should, Rodney lasts 44 more days

[whole crypt]

would be funny if the new UR makes oneshot 100% reliable after all the dalaos are done with the ladder

[atomic abyss]

for haku, i did try skyr, tenrai, fulmar.... and hit 78.42s...

[steady beacon]

Ender, good Lord, why are you not running any conv torps...

[opal stream]

why skyraider

[whole crypt]

becaue he coping

[atomic abyss]

that was for fast haku

[steady beacon]

Skyrocket

[atomic abyss]

im going fast nano at the moment
not fast haku
i couldn't make fast haku work with the stuff i had

[opal stream]

if you want a fast haku you must drop tenrai

[atomic abyss]

yeah... that's what i realised unfortunately

[steady beacon]

And unfortunately, the best DB we currently have to compensate for that is one Idt you have (and also definitely does not work at your tech level)

[atomic abyss]

oh well let's try with sirius now

[cobalt rapids]

idk whats there to compensate just lvl the ships and copy the fastest comp which doesnt use any limited gear

[steady beacon]

I'm just referring to the DB that hurts the least on Haku if you drop her Tenrai, that's all

[cobalt rapids]

with 9 rld tech u cant use firefly comp anyway

[atomic abyss]

swapped in sirius
the increase in the CV dps led to a drop in shima's and the total damage was equal in the end
and helena almost died

[steady beacon]

Which I did point out

[atomic abyss]

i suppose the next best thing is to try avp...

[steady beacon]

Oh oops, I dum dum
Forgot to click oath
OK, nvm, my Shina is more like 1.5s faster by the end so... scratch the previous thought

[atomic abyss]

actually, maybe i'll entertain the agir idea...

[cobalt rapids]

idk why were running in circles when the solution is simple but

[opal stream]

you can try mus instead of nugget

[atomic abyss]

i do not have purple floof kek

[sullen creek]

Dear lord

[atomic abyss]

at this point im seriously considering soyuz

[steady beacon]

If the calculator on your Haku is correct... you are definitely whiffing her second airstrike as well...

So Agir... might help...

[opal stream]

bb comp only need 4 scans to kill

[cobalt rapids]

and how many salvo rng

[opal stream]

lower than you think

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Dr421t73f

[cobalt rapids]

you know what i think

[inland shoal]

You can read my thoughts?

I'm on phone

[steady beacon]

Izumo gun on Soyuz 👀👀

Oh no wait, I got caught in the scroll
Good Lord, I thought I was going mad

[atomic abyss]

...well agir did maintain the consistency

damage went higher cos naga procced 4/5 big 7s

[steady beacon]

'tis better to be lucky than good

[inland shoal]

Has support barrage maxed yet?

Then you can improve simply by waiting

[opal stream]

need like a month to max i think?

[jaunty vault]

doesnt it continue improving till last day

[inland shoal]

Iirc yes but I forgot when it started

[steady beacon]

Uh...
Support barrage is on the 31st day right?
1st day was March 14th, so we're on...16th day...?

[steady beacon]

... What main gun are you using...?

[atomic abyss]

og twin 410

the twin 406 slams it into haku's strike cos of loaders

[steady beacon]

I wonder if they'll find something even more fun for the next META than the fine equipment juggling of this fight?

Next time, count torps

[atomic abyss]

more like next time frontline damage only

[steady beacon]

If that's so, my torp memers stand ready and waiting

[worn dragon]

Is there a tierlist somewhere that I should ve aware of ?

[atomic abyss]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List by Rice#7016 & Slime#2203
🔹'Samvaluation' event ships' evaluations by samheart564#4031
🔹CN tier list by NGA

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[atomic abyss]

first one is typically the one used by most here

[worn dragon]

Thanks

put all of my resources into Warsprite

[atomic abyss]

yeah that's... an oof

[worn dragon]

Don't even see her in tier 1

[atomic abyss]

even with her retrofit she's fallen off

[steady beacon]

Ouch

[cobalt rapids]

did u already buy her retro item ?

[worn dragon]

I retroed her

I have had it for around 2 years-ish

[cobalt rapids]

then its fine

[worn dragon]

Since I have just returned to tbe game lately

[atomic abyss]

well 2 years ago there weren't nearly as many URs so, she was decent back then

[worn dragon]

(Haven't invested much time, so I'm quite brand new ngl"

[cobalt rapids]

i recc reading the newbie guide and relevant sections u unlocked in /guide then

[atomic abyss]

gotcha, thanks

[ember totem]

[worn dragon]

Please atleast tell me my san diego is still namba wan

[jaunty vault]

chien bot

[worn dragon]

Damn Unicorn is Ex tier

[atomic abyss]

while she is no longer the undisputed best AA carry in the game
players who have her will still find a lot of uses for her in w13+

[cobalt rapids]

shes not but better investment than corgi

[steady beacon]

Well, she certainly still says she is
She is still very usable for what she brings tbf

[worn dragon]

Wait about the fox sisters ?

[atomic abyss]

laughed out of existence

[opal stream]

who? 👴

[worn dragon]

(Akagi) and... uh I forgot

[atomic abyss]

there are new and better foxes now

[worn dragon]

Amagi ?

[atomic abyss]

also fallen off

talking about shinano

[cobalt rapids]

post ur dock in a thread if u want rather than guessing randomly

[sonic hemlock]

Rodney META ends on the same day CN anni ends.

[viscid swift]

pretty much everyone but a select few from the early days have fallen off

[atomic abyss]

aka enterprise, helena and unicorn

[worn dragon]

.... Your pfp ?

[atomic abyss]

belfast did get buffed admittedly
but even back then she wasn't that good lol
she isn't good now either

[viscid swift]

I wish, Belfast was good

[wispy pendant]

welcome back, you've missed a few things

[worn dragon]

😦 Bro I spent all of my resources into the Royal Navy squad

[steady beacon]

I know very narrow domain of use, but I want to put in a good word for Aurora here

[opal stream]

welcome to powercreep

[atomic abyss]

aurora was the opposite

[worn dragon]

NOSHIRO FELL OFF ? ONE OF THE BEST TANK IN THE GAME FELL OFF ??????

[wispy pendant]

faction fleeting has always been a meme

[atomic abyss]

aurora was good but never found use back then

she only found use thanks to meta showdown
same with all the ARA and Sirius tbh

[worn dragon]

Does Laffey 2 even exist ?

[viscid swift]

yes

[wispy pendant]

yes

[steady beacon]

She does

[atomic abyss]

yes

[worn dragon]

Okay how can I get her

[atomic abyss]

limited event, come back in 2 years or sth

[steady beacon]

Wait two years, probably

[opal stream]

wait
or invent time machine

[sonic hemlock]

Get a time machine to 5 months ago, or wait two years, yeah.

[worn dragon]

I'll literally sell my family for her

DANG IT

[viscid swift]

well you can't, she's event limited

[atomic abyss]

the og laffey is a benson class
laffey II is an allen m sumner class
so yes she exists

[sonic hemlock]

Also, you're looking at the tier list, and you're asking if Laffey II exists when she's there?

[worn dragon]

I love Laffey so much

[viscid swift]

ok....

[worn dragon]

Idk I mean it can be a meme...

[wispy pendant]

watching you come up to speed is going to be fun 🍿

[sonic hemlock]

Why would it be a meme?

[worn dragon]

My OG name was Laffeyizdabet lol

[atomic abyss]

KC did that with kai ni... (retrofit 2)

[keen sable]

Tmi

[viscid swift]

right, chit chat goes to #al-general and #off-topic

[atomic abyss]

so yeah maybe

but yes, we don't need to know your love for laffey

[steady beacon]

Probably because of Anson... maybe...
They listed her in the changelog despite her... retcon

[opal stream]

anson was a nightmare we all collectively had

[sonic hemlock]

Anson was removed already. Her inclusion in the TL was an April Fool's joke and its time has passed.

[steady beacon]

[wispy pendant]

not like we ever had anson stats and skills

[worn dragon]

Should I just start a new account ?

[wispy pendant]

not needed

[atomic abyss]

no imo

[sonic hemlock]

No?

[steady beacon]

Idk, I still see her in that changelog 👀

[atomic abyss]

at least you'll have something to clear events with now

[steady beacon]

Granted, it wasn't as funny as the PvP meme

[cobalt rapids]

theres 0 reason to start a new account

[sonic hemlock]

...That's because they're not going to change the changelog. But Anson was removed from the tier list itself.

[steady beacon]

She was IN the tierlist itself?
OK, that I did not know...

[worn dragon]

My dock currently, who is still useful ?

[viscid swift]

well you still need to progress, even if they have been powercrept what choice do you have

[atomic abyss]

the fact that you retro warspite and not portland is...

[wispy pendant]

go to newbie tips and pick up where you left off.

[atomic abyss]

unicorn is definitely your highest priority anyways

[sonic hemlock]

Investing your resources in ships that fell off doesn't mean you're better off starting a new account. That's just going to waste even more time gathering all your resources once again. All those ships you invested in are STILL good, they're just powercrept by newer ships.

[worn dragon]

Yea... I kinda don't like portland ngl

[atomic abyss]

you do want to retro her for the beginner mission rewards sooo

[steady beacon]

Well, if you have the sound on, there's reason to at least be... tired with her...
But ye, retro for the beginner's missions and then replace her if you have something that can sub in

[cobalt rapids]

warspite shinano chan unicorn - portland helena laffii laff1

[atomic abyss]

that's laff one you baka

[worldly pewter]

[eager mulch]

laffi

[wispy pendant]

laff1 is still fine to use

[atomic abyss]

yep i agree with the recommend

unless there's some other hidden gem in the abyss of that dock

[eager mulch]

jabbers is cuter

[steady beacon]

In before like 3 URs

[atomic abyss]

actually, we tend to meme on nosh but like

[wispy pendant]

not like they have bulins for the URs

[atomic abyss]

can someone actually run the ehp calcs for port kai vs nosh

[opal stream]

inb 10 ur bulin

[worn dragon]

I... i do have 5 bulins lying around

[atomic abyss]

5 gold bulins i assume

[sonic hemlock]

Nosh is still a great EVA tank, and she's T1 in an incredibly competitive hull type.

[worn dragon]

UR bulins

[wispy pendant]

why

[viscid swift]

Noshiro is fine but the issue is for most SRs gold bullins

[worn dragon]

Well why not

[cobalt rapids]

noshi is fine but no enty and hood means rookie rewards prio

[eager mulch]

-dock space

[steady beacon]

This is what Mebot says, at least

[atomic abyss]

ok, do you have any other URs

[worn dragon]

Can't just throw em away (I don't have ANY URs)

[wispy pendant]

pretty sure we could've started a thread a long time ago... should we just do that now, or is this fun?

[cobalt rapids]

they meant u shouldnt buy it before mlbing coz they dont occupy dockspace in shop

[viscid swift]

Like, when we say don't invest in x, y, or z. That's not us saying said ship is bad, it's us saying said ship is not worth investing in, 2 very different things.

[worn dragon]

Ah

[worldly pewter]

cost performance

[steady beacon]

... Did Mebot ever post the numbers on the uh
New ships

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[worldly pewter]

how can i check on the affection level of the ship ?

[eager mulch]

I need mebot to calculate shinano chan ehp

[steady beacon]

Cheers

[atomic abyss]

...secretary them

ok jk
click on the heart/feeling icon

[opal stream]

click the heart icon

[worldly pewter]

[keen sable]

You need 12 ships anyway. You shouldn't be onefleeting

[worn dragon]

Tap on the "oath" part of my laffey here

[cobalt rapids]

is it oath flex time

[worn dragon]

WAIR WAIT WAIT U SAYS HOW MANG BULLINS I NEED TO MLBING AN UR SHIP ?

[eager mulch]

[wispy pendant]

you can sort your dock by "affinity"

[steady beacon]

.... Hmmm, well JintM is lower so... in middle she should live... 🤞
And on manual, I should be able to keep her alive...

[sonic hemlock]

4, just like any ship.

[wispy pendant]

it's always 4 dupes to go from zero to hero

[worn dragon]

This was quite confusing ngl

[eager mulch]

except for bulin itself

[sonic hemlock]

...12 ships. 6 per fleet.

[worn dragon]

Well I'll make a new acc anyway, just to kill my spare time

[sonic hemlock]

But why? You should just continue progressing on your current account.

[cobalt rapids]

we literally advised against and u got 5 ur bulins thats huge progress

[jaunty vault]

@inland shoal providing misinformation is nagamis job, not yours

[viscid swift]

why not just start progressing and getting your account back up to speed, rather than split focus unecessarily

[worn dragon]

(I will play my main too)

[cobalt rapids]

trusting ingame tips

[eager mulch]

trusting gph is just as worse

[worn dragon]

Is there a newbie manual thag I need to know ?

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[steady beacon]

... So DOES support barrage cap before last day or not...?

[viscid swift]

should cap in like the last 30 days or so

[wispy pendant]

go to #bot-spam and type "/guide" to get the guide again

[worn dragon]

Where is this pinned ?

[atomic abyss]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 New Player's Guide by .Snub and Community TL

🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[wispy pendant]

go to ⁠bot-spam and type "/guide" to get the guide again

[worn dragon]

Ohhhh

[atomic abyss]

in the command

[worldly pewter]

u bookmark this

[eager mulch]

no, u memorize it

[worn dragon]

Done, I can even recite it in Japanese in just one go

[opal stream]

theres this thing called search history

[eager mulch]

deleted

[worn dragon]

Is low cost fleet still a thing ?

[opal stream]

dead

[eager mulch]

low cost is

[steady beacon]

Depends on how desperate/unlucky you were for those HVARcats a year and a half ago

[rain vine]

heres your "low cost" fleet until w10/11

[worn dragon]

That ... does not seems that low

[eager mulch]

oil cap

[steady beacon]

Yes, 'tis a joke using a different meaning of "low cost"

[opal stream]

that fleet cost like 30 oil in practice

[atomic abyss]

/oilpsa

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804119377739776/949345167092105277/Untitled_presentation-page-001.jpg

[rain vine]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[haughty dust]

is there a place to find a list of gear that can be ranked up past +10 or +11?

[hollow gust]

Shinano Chan is a thing now , she is used till you get enty

[atomic abyss]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[atomic abyss]

@haughty dust^

[sleek spade]

Shinano chan strong

[haughty dust]

is the key for how to interpret that included in those images I think? Otherwise is there a key in terms of how to determine which which is the best and which is the worst? I think I may have got the gist from that image but I’m not 100% sure.

[atomic abyss]

prioritise red

[haughty dust]

OK, and I save that image to my phone

[hollow gust]

Nanochan should still be weaker than Saratoga right?

[sleek spade]

That fire control thing is so strong but I missed Vanguard event

When is Vanguard coming back? Is that even farmable?

[atomic abyss]

i'd say yes considering sara's aug

[jaunty vault]

game says it doesnt

[eager mulch]

gph says it does but both are unreliable sources so

[viscid swift]

you can get one from the event shop, that's it

[sleek spade]

Very sad…

[haughty dust]

Also, I was checking some things in game. I’m wondering if once you get your account to level 100 if certain resources get easier to farm? For example, I noticed certain items I need for awakening more readily available farming certain daily challenges.

currently, I’m only one level away from being at 100. I’m currently at 99.

[rocky fjord]

is there lolinano dps yet

[sleek spade]

Is the only thing UR they made available monthly the rainbow torp? That shit came out like 4 yrs ago

[jaunty vault]

last i checked, two people do not count for entirety of gph

[haughty dust]

Not really available I meant higher drops

[sleek spade]

Is Eugen u better than Roon u?

Awww how come

[atomic abyss]

i mean... roon still retains the mgm+1 so

[haughty dust]

what are you guys think of my previous question? Am I correct or at least close?

[sleek spade]

Hmm I see

[sleek spade]

Depends on your fleet tbh.

[jaunty vault]

dudes asking if levels matter for better resources

[atomic abyss]

so yes, sort of

[jaunty vault]

sort of, yes

[sleek spade]

O I forgot that daily challenges has lv 100 cap.

But it’s just books so it’s pretty whatever

[worldly pewter]

the tactical training is worth speedrunning commander level for ngl
i recently hit 100 and holy the array income

[jaunty vault]

yeah 9 arrays a day is holy

[worldly pewter]

it is massive ngl

[sleek spade]

Yea it does accumulate quite well

I find that the sub weeklies are still most annoying. Couldn’t clear last stage until recently when they released the galley ship event with the tentacle girls

[worldly pewter]

i mean i might be tripping on this it looks like it is the best array income in the game

[cobalt rapids]

u and me

[sleek spade]

Yea it is since it’s quite consistent

[viscid swift]

I mean sure but it in the grand scheme of things arrays are not the things you'll be worrying about

[haughty dust]

let me show you an example of what I’m referring to.

[viscid swift]

yes, we know

[haughty dust]

that is what I was trying to indicate as an example.

[atomic abyss]

and we gave you an answer

[haughty dust]

I just hopped back into the server and I didn’t understand the first thing that somebody posted.

[viscid swift]

they're an upgrade yes but none of those things are gonna magically make your resource problems disappear or even make a significant difference

[haughty dust]

I wasn’t saying that I was saying mostly does it help with the drop rate of certain resources?

[atomic abyss]

it increases, yes, not significantly tho

[sleek spade]

No it doesn’t

[viscid swift]

what drop rate

[sleek spade]

Normal game mode drop rates?

[haughty dust]

just seeing this now, I had to scroll back up. Took me a minute to go back-and-forth.

[sleek spade]

Or you mean the high level dailies drops more of the better resources?

[haughty dust]

more of the higher level dailies is what I was asking. Also, I have another question about dailies in a moment but it’ll take me a minute to get the question prepared so give me a brief moment or two.

[sleek spade]

It’s already indicated on there as you can see. 65-70 chips and 3 arrays

[haughty dust]

Yeah, I only saw that post a few moments ago

So I have not been focusing on submarines yet in game. Is there a good time to start focusing on them? The reason I ask is because I’m stuck on giving these to be able to just auto clear. i’m not exactly sure how to successfully complete these. Also, not sure if it’s even worth it.

[eternal basalt]

When you need JUST 50 to 125... Cgnitive Chips could come so cheap

[atomic abyss]

given how much time is needed to raise subs, the sooner the better tbh
and it is worth yes

[viscid swift]

take manual control of your subs and sink 2 cargo ships plus the bosses, and make sure all subs survive. That's enough to S clear.

[sleek spade]

It is definitely useful. Idk if you did the tempesta event but those girls clear this mode very well

[eternal basalt]

If you have IX subs it's a breeze

[haughty dust]

well, that’s probably gonna take some practice and I’m gonna need some advice on subs. I can make a thread if need be. I have not focused on them at all yet. I’ve only been focusing on ships. Do you guys think I should make a thread for that?

which, by the way, even if I make a thread for that which filter class is that in game? Is it SS or a different one?

[atomic abyss]

yes, ss for the main subs

[eternal basalt]

IX is under other

[haughty dust]

Submarine Situation

[grizzled lion]

Ok. How can I identify cruisers?

[atomic abyss]

filter CL and CA

[grizzled lion]

Thank you

[late rose]

should i take shinano or new jersey from the ur exchange ?

[atomic abyss]

what URs do you have?

[late rose]

unzen and kronshtadt

[atomic abyss]

and you havent begun work on hakuryuu i assume

[late rose]

nah

[atomic abyss]

probably NJ then, assuming you're at the 400 already

[sleek spade]

NJ stronk

[late rose]

okay thanks

[sleek spade]

Should I make that lab USN DD gun for NJ or no? It’s 6 reports after all

[steady beacon]

Fine if you don't have any other pressing needs for the resources it consumes

[sleek spade]

I dont mind the resources but the 6 reports do have a lot of use lol

And since NJ is a little power creeped idk if it’s worth it

[atomic abyss]

for a player with no other backline URs, NJ will be more useful than shinano

[sleek spade]

Ah then NJ is not a pressing issue for me

[atomic abyss]

there are gold CVs that can compete with shinano

[hollow gust]

Enty diff

[steady beacon]

... tbf those guns are actually preferred over CL guns in a certain environment, but I'm guessing you're probably not asking about that...
Remind me what reports are used for again? It's like Flapjacks yes? Anything else I'm forgetting?

[atomic abyss]

there aren't exactly many gold BBs that can compete with NJ

[worldly lion]

Just finished researching FDG and finished her catch up. I should move on to say, PR4 focus right. Im planning to unlock Anchorage next

[viscid swift]

Flapjacks, 155 Kai, 457s, among others

[sleek spade]

Flapjacks and a lot of the UR gear that requires UR reports

[steady beacon]

Well then, consider your resource situation... if you need any of those items first, then they should take priority

[sleek spade]

Do I need double Georgia gun? I alr got double wyverns

I heard Champ gun is preferable since it’s easier to sync

[hollow gust]

It depends

[steady beacon]

Hmmmm... "need"...
It's nice to have...
I'm not quite sure about "need", though...

[sleek spade]

I do need that PR3 UR CA gun tho

[steady beacon]

In some sense, though, maybe I'm the wrong person to ask bc I have more Georgia than Champ guns

[worldly pewter]

drake gun ?

[sleek spade]

Yes

My CA gun situation is kinda cope

[forest palm]

Triple 234 is accessible, and still good across the board

[sleek spade]

Im using Roon gun most of the time, and I only got 4 of those since PR1 way back then

[sleek spade]

Hmmm perhaps

[steady beacon]

Incidentally, the other thing I should ask is like... are you expecting NJ to solo handle suicide boats
Bc if not then I'd just stick Harbin or Tashkent gun on her for the 35 FP, and it's not like their damage against suicide boats is utterly appalling

[worldly pewter]

is there another triple

[viscid swift]

no, it's a refference to a mislabeling of the gun on JP when it was first released

it was labled as a Twin instead of a Tripple

hence "Twipple"

[sleek spade]

Nah Im planning my first UR BB backline. I need another UR BB to complete it so Im waiting for either a UR BB coming out later this month (maybe not who knows) or Im lvling NJ later to do this

[worldly pewter]

i sometimes don't understand people when they advise

[cobalt rapids]

wdym

[forest palm]

I mean just

[sleek spade]

What the?!

[steady beacon]

Very well, then no need to prioritise the Twin 137

[sleek spade]

Ah ok then

[worldly pewter]

teach

[steady beacon]

Have a lot of Gear Lab resources
Also, jeez, did I mismanage my gun plates...

[sleek spade]

Why does Ying Zwei and Chao Ho has such good guns

[atomic abyss]

...harbin grind?

[eager mulch]

Taz is just very old

[sleek spade]

Truly a man of waifus

[worldly pewter]

so just accumutate opsi mats

[sleek spade]

Terminally low on Electronics

[forest palm]

it's literally play time, and doing correct research

[cobalt rapids]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRi32cJUxFgwwSk9EmJ40TPJITLnMD4rFlzODCMtK0XVl7pTGaEy21RRGLWGOtq2Qkb3qRmUa4YTtxS/pubhtml if u mean equip nicknames then u can use this for most of the equips

[steady beacon]

How many Drake guns from research (excluding the protocore copy)?

[worldly lion]

When's the next UR banner? Im saving up my cubes since Im new. Been itching to get a new one since I only have 1 UR which is NJ

[eternal basalt]

End May

[sleek spade]

End of may

[forest palm]

3 Research, 1 P Cores, 2 GL

[sleek spade]

Dont save just cubes. Save coins and Bulins too

[worldly lion]

Oh so it's fine to use a couple cubes in the idol banner huh

[eager mulch]

real question is does he have the bulin income to raise them

[sleek spade]

Make sure you have enough for 200 rolls

[eternal basalt]

130k specialised core

[worldly lion]

I have maxed NJ. I have 5 spare bulins. so im good for the next UR

[sleek spade]

The coin requirement kills me inside

[worldly pewter]

i don't want to remember it

[worldly lion]

Yep. Im maintaining my cube count to 450 atm

[viscid swift]

400 is the bare minumum at this point, you really want more

[sleek spade]

Yes

[eternal basalt]

3 week event to gather + a month leadup

[worldly lion]

so Im not touching my cubes until then. have 430 atm

[sleek spade]

I only have 50k coins rn

[worldly pewter]

only

[sleek spade]

Have u seen the other guys? It’s often 200k+ lol

[eternal basalt]

Well you have 25 days to gather

[worldly pewter]

i'm in the negative range

[sleek spade]

Feels bad

Ok I sleep have fun

[red stirrup]

what do you guys personally do with the leftover medals at the end of the month?

[viscid swift]

nothing, just hoard

[steady beacon]

They don't disappear, so just keep 'em

[forest palm]

leftover?

[red stirrup]

i guess i can spend them on food then i guess. i always have a stockpile at the end

[eager mulch]

you guys dont do requisition too?

[forest palm]

I have every gacha ship, so no

[viscid swift]

not a bad idea actually

[eager mulch]

for us maybe, still bad for new players

[viscid swift]

yeah, for me

[steady beacon]

I always spend them on food

[eternal basalt]

Keep them to get all the good stuff the 1st

[atomic abyss]

[forest palm]

Chips, Skill Books, Food, Sp Core, and Bulins are the only thing you should look to spend medals on after you've gotten the SSR ships that are of value out of the merit shop

[red stirrup]

thats only a couple hundred medals

[steady beacon]

Ye but when there's nothing else one needs, why bother spending any more

[worldly pewter]

i m sure the ones he listed there are almost a thousand

[red stirrup]

i was responding to the previous comment

[steady beacon]

Actually, far more importantly, since when are chips in the medal shop 👀

[viscid swift]

since never

[worldly pewter]

[viscid swift]

sadly

[eternal basalt]

Oh, that's core... shame, would throw medal at chips

[steady beacon]

As I imagine a lot of people would

[forest palm]

what to do with research? because I don't feel like there's enough time to wrangle another 203 SKC out of PR6 before PR7.

[eager mulch]

gamble for more burg guns

[viscid swift]

may as well make a start

[eternal basalt]

PR4 for Tenrai

[eager mulch]

you just dont believe in yourself enough

but I believe in you

[forest palm]

[steady beacon]

I mean, how many prints?

[forest palm]

mm...46

that's how much I need

[atomic abyss]

assuming i only have 2 bf 109s
avp haku nano, who shd take them?

[steady beacon]

... When did I start Tenrai... I think about a week or two after Plygun entered protocore...
Time to now is... let's say two three months... and I'm on 47/50...
You have a chance tbh

[viscid swift]

3 months not 2

[forest palm]

Haku, and Nano will punch harder with them

[steady beacon]

Oh right, sorry, start of Feb

[viscid swift]

Plymouth gun was Late January, it's nearly May now

[steady beacon]

I really can't math this hour

Well, I still hold you have a chance... bc my rainbow print rate is deplorable

[sage nebula]

when doing war archive, does using the 2x efficiency plan affect the 0/60 runs?

[steady beacon]

As long as you make sure AvP has a German plane for her skill

[soft raft]

No

[atomic abyss]

that's what the Ju TBs are for

[eager mulch]

those are for timing adjustment

[steady beacon]

Actually, there may be an argument that Shina's fighter slot loses to AvP's fighter slot... but do I want to calculate this...

[atomic abyss]

i mean 2x125% vs 2x150%

don't think the avi stat difference can make up for that difference

[steady beacon]

Other thing is also uh
Who is going first

In my past setups, Shina goes first, so her rockets miss out on AvP's aviation break, yet another factor against her

[atomic abyss]

well i could go avp haku nano all together
this isn't rodM after all

[steady beacon]

Ye, but bc of AvP's slightly shorter stop time she generally must go second in launch order for maximum effectiveness, so that just had a slight, to be fair, effect on Shinano (who usually went first) having her rockets fire before AvP's barrage rockets that inflict the aviation break
Quibbling over the small details, I know, but... this is the end result of an AL player, I guess

By the numbers
Ofc assuming that Shina has her 3 IJN req fulfilled for 1.3 AVI, both carrying three gold planes, two +10 catapults, 30 AVI augment
Factoring in only the armour modifier and no other modifiers like Siren Killer, Hex-Principle of Dominance vs CL/CA, etc.
Although with my recent record, expect a mistake somewhere

[viscid swift]

well here's some food for thought that might make things easier

Shinano can just use a converging TB in her first slot which against medium armor isn't too far off a Bf-109G where as the difference between a Fighter Bomber and a Bf-109G

[steady beacon]

Actually, I assumed medium right there but Idt you ever said medium
But ye that is indeed very true

[atomic abyss]

22.26, 22.48, 22.61
avp being 22.26
i think that much is fine right?

btw i was talking about light

[viscid swift]

AvP wants to go second

[cobalt rapids]

not tight enough for 3 strike

[viscid swift]

preferably Haku and Nano are no more than 0.2 seconds slower/faster

[atomic abyss]

adjusted
22.11, 22.26, 22.48

[whole jolt]

Will there be any new event ship event soon?

[eternal basalt]

1 month, the current events is still going for crying out loud

[whole jolt]

Okay okay... Are Bismarck Zwei and Implacable good ships?

Cause i got them but i havent played for a while so i forgot most of things about the game

[soft raft]

very good
BisZwei is one of the top UR BBs and Implacable is basically AvP but better

[whole jolt]

Ah... Okay cool!

Could you maybe help me with my ship formation to optimize them to the max?

[red stirrup]

do arbiters do that thing where they heal up if you get them to low enough health?

[soft raft]

post your dock in a thread

[wispy pendant]

normal arbiter, yes, hard, no, and you can't re-enter abyssal zones

[eager mulch]

none of the arbiters have the zombie skill bruh

[red stirrup]

cool, so i might actually be able to win on normal

[whole jolt]

For some reason i cant post pics

[eager mulch]

normal you can leave and heal freely and the boss will never heal

[soft raft]

you have to actually create the thread first before you can post images in it

[red stirrup]

oh? ez win then thanks

[whole jolt]

Ah okay lol didnt know

Help with ship formation

[maiden crown]

what do i use my core data on?

[eager mulch]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[hollow gust]

EN moment

[wispy pendant]

i'm caught... i didn't take the time to fully understand the question, now I'm embarrassed.

[hollow gust]

[worldly pewter]

boys what is the speculated ship rerun after the cn anni i think i m kinda not keeping up with UR bulins at this point

[forest palm]

Rondo

[hollow gust]

Emden event if you don't know which one that is

[forest palm]

we'll see Rondo before or after CN Anniversary, after that is Vanny iirc

[worldly pewter]

who is rondo ?

[hollow gust]

Read the line after

[eager mulch]

rondo at rainbow's end

[worldly pewter]

i checked the list now and emden seems like an SR ship

[hollow gust]

She is

[worldly pewter]

am i missing something ?

[eager mulch]

its not a UR event

[worldly pewter]

what is the speculated ur ship rerun after cn anni ?

[eager mulch]

vanguard

[dusk sparrow]

so for Agir, what's the requirement to get her fate simulation it won't show up for me.

[worldly pewter]

[eager mulch]

doesnt exist

[dusk sparrow]

oh why does the item tell me-

[worldly pewter]

if i spark shinano in the summer there is no way that i m mlbing her then right ?

[dusk sparrow]

but ty lol

[cobalt rapids]

no idea about ur current ur situation, bulin storage and how many URs till summer = 🔮

[worldly pewter]

6k cores there are 2 URs ahead anni and vanguard

[cobalt rapids]

we dont know that

[rain vine]

if youre referring to the general print, it tracks how many prints you need to get fs5, regardless if the ship actually has one

[eager mulch]

we dont know anything

[wispy pendant]

@worldly pewter Every UR event and UR rerun has a UR bulin in milestones, add that to your planning.

[cobalt rapids]

if uve been here on guam event then theres precedent for double URs events so whos to say they wont do it again

[worldly pewter]

yeah 24k cores with 2 from the event

oh i forgot the pass

[wispy pendant]

you're over thinking it... just take it one UR at a time as you get them

[worldly pewter]

i will be missing 2 and eventually the jp anni will catch up

it is physically impossible

[wispy pendant]

breathe

[viscid swift]

it's not, just give it time

[worldly pewter]

mlbing shinano with dupes is the only way

[wispy pendant]

catching up takes time, just take your time. It's a video game, not worth freaking out

[eager mulch]

i literally started playing since vanguard event and I was able to get enough to mlb every single UR in the game, its not the end of the world

[cobalt rapids]

no point planning this ahead since udk how UR prio will be even with new URs

[eager mulch]

all new events, all reruns, game is literally increasing income for new players

[worldly pewter]

i personally am speculating something to powercreep shinano this anni

[wispy pendant]

something more relevant to freak out about is opsi resets tomorrow, so get your AP grind on now

[cobalt rapids]

it is very possible for shinano to become higher prio than a new UR and at the same time its also possible she will be completely abandoned

[worldly pewter]

this i totally forgot about

[wispy pendant]

yeah, stop worrying about tomorrow when today needs your attention

[worldly pewter]

i have 3k ap as always to burn and need to prepare more for the harbiter

2 abyssals and 3 strongholds

[wispy pendant]

less type more sortie

[worldly pewter]

18h until reset

[wispy pendant]

oh yeah, you play on the other server lol

[worldly pewter]

no sleep for me again this month

[cobalt rapids]

procastination never good

[eager mulch]

but it feels good

using my emojis against me

[forest palm]

but monthly isn't in 18...

[eager mulch]

he plays JP

[forest palm]

skill issue la

[knotty dome]

does sub flag have any xp/affinity bonuses?

[wispy pendant]

don't think so

[knotty dome]

thanks

[soft raft]

they pre-emptively give every research ship that counter regardless of if they have FS5 or not

That way they dont have to go back in and add it in every time they put out new fate sims
Plus some people might want to save for Fate Sims beforehand so that feature is nice for that

[dusk sparrow]

ohh makes sense then, thanks!

[slim hinge]

Just want to confirm. Do you still get sync points if you get disconnected while doing a META battle challenge for another player?

[soft raft]

Nope
Which is utter crap

Same goes for if you forcibly close the game on purpose

[slim hinge]

Oh crap. I got dc'd when the battle almost ended. Would've gotten 75 sync. 😦

[whole jolt]

Is it good to spend cubes on the event that is going on rn?

[left nest]

is the 30 minute gold one worth > agir/haku?

[hollow gust]

take agir

dr always take priority

[left nest]

[soft raft]

It's not exactly a high priority
The event ships are pretty average overall and muse ships don't give fleet tech/tech points

And CN Anniv, which is in a month, is almost certainly a UR so it's better to save your cubes for that

[iron nacelle]

Is there a resource or something to find a good mob fleet for OpSi?

[cobalt rapids]

sams fleetbuilding guide or posting a thread here but mobbing in opsi isnt very difficult so u can get away with many fleets

[iron nacelle]

Ok thank you

[inland shoal]

As long as you don't want to 1 fleet strongholds anyway

And even for that quite some combos work

[iron briar]

Hello, can anyone tell me the condition the get 3rd star in event stages which said " clear with a full combo "?

[inland shoal]

Kill all enemies

[stark quiver]

Will takao cm be brute force or precise timing

[iron briar]

All fleets?

[cobalt rapids]

without getting c or lower

[iron briar]

Ok i just redownload the game after 1 yeah it is so confusing all over again

[wispy pendant]

welcome back, not much has changed in a year

[cobalt rapids]

we will see

[whole jolt]

Can I use data packs to lvl up ships? Or is there a better way to use them?

[cobalt rapids]

but for now it looks brute force

[inland shoal]

That is the only things to use them for

[whole jolt]

Aha

[cobalt rapids]

the best way to use em is to lvl low lvl ships so u they can join the fray where ure grinding right away

[iron briar]

I might miss some ur event, i quit after getting ur implacable and missed new jersey rerun

[wispy pendant]

NJ is in perm pool pity, so you'll get her eventually. No reason to cry over spilt milk, just get back in the saddle

[lament tree]

How do I get rid of oil fast. I was almost below my cap and was planning on finally finishing the last rookie mission I needed to start the next part and next thing I know, I'm at 10k oil once more when my cap is 1200

[south sequoia]

Either grind more or spend on dormitory food

[lament tree]

Spend on dormitory food?

[south sequoia]

Yep

Fastest and most efficient way of getting rid of oil asap if you arent grinding events and w9+

[worldly pewter]

campaign levels eat that oil like hot cake

[lament tree]

Where? I don't see any option to buy anything in the dorm with oil

[south sequoia]

If you open up the food tab and click on any of the dorm food with + you will be able to buy it with oil
However you aren't able to spend it on the purple tier food

Purple tiers cost gems

[inland shoal]

The only food you should be buying is curry

[sage nebula]

if an enemy takes increased torp dmg, and you fire a barrage that scales with TRP, is the dmg buffed or no?

[elfin hollow]

For brunhilde which gun works best for mobbing

?

[sage nebula]

brunhilde isnt really suited for mobbing, but if you want to use her, you can use twin 457

twin 406 is an alternative if you dont have twin 457

[sage hawk]

Newer player here. Feel like I have a decent handle on things but would love if someone could help me out on what ships to build for the future

[rain vine]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[worldly pewter]

boys what is a good figher against this kind of abyssal

[elfin hollow]

(Ik im just trying to level her up)

[sage nebula]

if its just for leveling, then just use a short-firing gun like the twin 406

[undone plover]

flapjack or any 2x1000 lb bomb fighter

this is technically slightly better if u can maintain hidden status (i forgot if that abyssal has any planes) but honestly not worth crafting https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190_A-6/R6_(Carrier-based_Prototype)#Type_0-0.
against heavy armor u are using torp bombers as a prio anyway

[rich valve]

what is the best fleet for yukikaze CM?

[south sequoia]

This arbiter can still reveal you via planes iirc so flapjack would be better

[worldly pewter]

i didn't pay attention to the torp
but it worked somehow
this is my first time beating a c6 abyssal

i went with wyverns instead of junkers
did i int myself ?

[undone plover]

well if u have a freeze/decent slow u should run converging torp bombers

[worldly pewter]

ryuusei ?

[undone plover]

it goes ryuusei > junker > saiun kai for alpha damage but u will run either of those 3 to make sure the setup is correct

[worldly pewter]

this was enty gear since she was the mvp

[undone plover]

do u have AvP? ark royal?

[undone yacht]

was a good idea to retrofit independence?

[sharp socket]

is soul forming research good

[worldly pewter]

i have them but not leveled yet and avp still FS1

[rain vine]

screenshot?

[undone plover]

well it is fine then. in theory you can run converging torps without freeze but u will need to learn the boss stop timings and work around it (if it even is possible for all bosses) but if u cba wait till AvP is FS5 and then setup your fleet around her

[rain vine]

not really worth it, especially if you dont have 400+ cubes

[sharp socket]

i already queued but i wanna know if its good

[sage nebula]

.

[sharp socket]

i have 500 cubes as of now

[rain vine]

you can coin pr4, and youre going to be sitting in season 4 research anyway for agir

[whole crypt]

soul forming is good but at your level I probably wouldn't spend the res for it, particularly not for a series that you can coin enhance

[sharp socket]

ok ty

[undone yacht]

well can someone help me get enough xp research for FdG

[undone plover]

what KMS backline do you have? run 3 and farm 12-4

[rain vine]

its not complicated
throw 3 ironblood backline into mob and run oil cap map