gameplay-help

[steady beacon]

Good luck

[sinful nimbus]

Well i don't have much else to farm right now since RNGJesus gav me all Idol ships with 0 effort

[opal stream]

actually double checked
you are right

[cobalt rapids]

w12, i wouldnt rly bother 2 much with idol ships unless u rly like em

[sinful nimbus]

Of course still working on the points for the current idol event tho

[steady beacon]

Y'all made me think I had completely lost my marbles...

[inland shoal]

Really weird though, I have a distinct memory of torps on manual at an angle
But yeah can't recreate it

[sinful nimbus]

Well i like Eugen muse because i am a basic bitch lol

[opal stream]

i mean the skill itself is ass already so not like that matters

[steady beacon]

I've tried it myself after seeing the very obvious sharp angles accentuated by line torpedoes, but never could, so I was just wondering if there's some method that has just eluded me for two and a half years

[terse sinew]

So... Recommended loadout for Eugen Muse?

[opal stream]

normal ca

[cobalt rapids]

same as og

[terse sinew]

alrighty

[inland shoal]

If it started at 1s I could at least test my code based analysis that lvling it won't work easily

[sharp socket]

i got kimberly from guild shop, very nice now can dev anchorage

[opal stream]

if it worked shouldnt the only thing that change is how long the stop is which is just changing 1 number
not the acceleration which is time based so really scuffed shit

[inland shoal]

The acceleration is coded to start exactly as the stop ends, so both could easily changed by just changing one number

[opal stream]

so you mean the accel is hard coded to start 2s after the stop trigger
not when the stop "end"?

[inland shoal]

No it starts when the stop ends

[opal stream]

okay then shouldnt be that hard to change the stop time if it can adapt

I thought you were saying they hard coded it to be 2s so it gonna break stuff

[inland shoal]

There is tho, you're just using the wrong button to fire your torps...sadly the other button doesn't allow you to simultaneously keep airstrikes stored...unless you develop a method to only activate it for a single frame

[inland shoal]

And I thought that's what you first meant

[inland shoal]

Yeah it's literally just changing a single number

[tender locust]

what are good things to buy from the core shop

[lucid tangle]

hey which DD has the biggest speed buff for vanguard? aside charles

[eager mulch]

Which core

[tender locust]

the ones from beating hard maps

[eager mulch]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[tender locust]

ah ty

[frank pulsar]

does owari or qem do better on med

[silver lintel]

Owari should be much better

[frank pulsar]

guess i wasted a bunch of my time then
ty

[sweet delta]

Qem is better if you use a mostly META fleet

[frank pulsar]

i dont use any meta besides qem

i rarely use her and when i do its as a standalone

[plain saffron]

they always powercreep META whenever there's a quite good META just released

[sleek vault]

Which researches should I prioritize for UR weapon prints?

[mental marlin]

what are some good early game units like unicorn that go in the back of the team 🙂 ?

[sleek vault]

Saratoga retrofit

[eternal basalt]

Q

[mental marlin]

thanks and for the third?

third unit*

[sleek vault]

Enterprise, Independence retrofit, and Monarch(dev 30) are all easy to obtain early on and good

[weary gust]

Monarch lol. She's pretty useless. By the time you get her, even if you coin her to dev 30, you'll be well past the point she's useful and will have other better ships. Most random SR BBs from events are better than her.

[sleek vault]

True

[rocky fjord]

did kiev have a UA?

[jaunty vault]

/wiki kiev

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kiev
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kiev/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kiev/Gallery

Apr 27, 2024, 3:07 PM

[rocky fjord]

wiki doesnt update new UAs very fast if they have it recent

[jaunty vault]

looks like she doesn't

/wiki chapayev

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapayev
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapayev/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapayev/Gallery

Apr 27, 2024, 3:08 PM

[jaunty vault]

they updated chappy

which was the latest batch

[rocky fjord]

ok

[jaunty vault]

[sharp token]

should i get kawakaze from war archives?

[jaunty vault]

[frank pulsar]

just grab from merit if you really want her

[atomic abyss]

I mean as good as she is with augment, not really a high priority

Also that

[plain saffron]

if you want her. if you lazy, buy using merit, if you want to save merit, farm her

[worldly pewter]

ijn tech though

[frank pulsar]

tech point from dd is lesser than other hull type, wouldnt be worth it in that case

[plain saffron]

idk if it's not worth, since IJN tech kinda hard

and it's practically free unless you're lazy

[worldly pewter]

well it is kinda low but my story with ijn tech is kinda rough

[vagrant otter]

what to do once morale’s down? do I just have to call it a day

[cobalt rapids]

rotate ur ships

[plain saffron]

you can play opsi if you unlocked it

[cobalt rapids]

or call it a day but it doesnt take long to recover if u dormed em

[mental marlin]

who should i put in the main fleet ? 🙂
unicorn, hornet, nagato, chiyoda, long island or renown?

[eager mulch]

in what context

[cobalt rapids]

penny unicorn shinano chan - portland helena starter assuming ure a new player

[hollow gust]

For the special ex stages you should only use one vanguard right?

[cobalt rapids]

if u want to score attack

1 vg = challenge mode

1vg = ez modo

[hollow gust]

Wasn't there ex boss that does less damage if you use only 1 vanguard?

[mental marlin]

ok i see, should i rather stick early to the core helena, port, indiana or should i put in the eugen, nishiro u or golden hind?

[cobalt rapids]

opposite

[cobalt rapids]

not indianapolis, use ur starter destroyer

[mental marlin]

uhm sorry, i didnt play this game for years
do u mean z23 or javelin? i have both

[cobalt rapids]

whichever u like more
starters are around the same
z23 will add for tech for fdg
jabbers is cuter tho
pick w.e

[hollow gust]

Obv Laffey

[mental marlin]

ok thanks 🙂 i've read that position matter in ur fleet
how i should i position: unicorn, penny shinano
portland, z23 and helena?

[cobalt rapids]

penny flag, uni/shinanochan w.e, portland leftmost ( tank ) , helena middle ( safe ) , z23 right ( off tank )

[mental marlin]

thanks for your time and help

[eager mulch]

not a jabbers fan

[vagrant otter]

where should I spend my gems first? is it a good idea to unlock slots in dorms?

[cobalt rapids]

yes, 3 dorm slots + 2nd dorm floor + rest dockspace is the recc f2p investment

[worldly pewter]

helena has to be in the middle cauz i always put her on the right

[vagrant otter]

how do I expand the docks? although I won’t be expanding it anytime soon, it’s still better to know

[cobalt rapids]

helena surviving longer is better

[cobalt rapids]

buy these from akashi

[vagrant otter]

I also saw an option using guild coins, should I buy that?

[cobalt rapids]

its pretty much the best guild tech u can get but make sure save enough for other guildshop refreshables like gold plates

[vagrant otter]

would shinano chan be better than ranger?

[cobalt rapids]

except for the ranger infinite dmg memes shes better for normal play yea, also retroless purple so shes cheap to raise

[inland shoal]

Just very annoying to enhance and LB for another few days

[whole crypt]

not that annoying you just get badgered to confirm if you really want to

[inland shoal]

Argus is the only ship other than Langley and Houshou buffing CVL exp? And it's additive with those 2 right?

[whole crypt]

think so, wasn't there a cap though

[storm marsh]

How do I get the notes for the karaoke event, because I'm doing all songs on hard and easy, at every speed each one of them, I've done a perfect combo on all but San Diego's, and still I got not a single note.

[whole crypt]

but the cap should be enough to accomodate using 2 of them

[inland shoal]

You just get a little dot on the progress bar for the event

You should be at 3 dots now

[whole crypt]

those on the left with the dot are done, the white space ones on the right are not

[storm marsh]

Ohhh, that makes a lot of sense, i thought a note should appear at the white dots, thank you both for helping me with such a dumb question.

[inland shoal]

Dw I didn't get it at first either

[solid harness]

Would U-81 replace my U-47?

[sweet delta]

If you oath and 125 u81, you might get a 6.13% buff to the fleet

[atomic abyss]

personally i wouldn't bother

[sweet delta]

But if you don't play favorites, might as well just get flasher albacore homura and they'll win even without oath

[solid harness]

Is that fleet better than Wolfpack?

[whole crypt]

I just don't touch subs anymore because I already picked my wolfpack and oathed/125'd

[cobalt rapids]

how behind are the ijn subs? do u think more than 30%?

[inland shoal]

Inb4 next UR is wolfpack

[soft raft]

by a very slight margin
Like small enough that there's no real need to raise fishpack if you're already working on wolfpack

[forest palm]

me who has the top 3 sub squads Lv 120

[inner delta]

[forest palm]

still find Homura to be cope

[sullen creek]

That's an amazing finding

[sweet delta]

mby 15-20

[forest palm]

what is the current IJN sub squad right now?

[cobalt rapids]

13 168 19

[forest palm]

huh...using the sea slug is kind of ick, but makes sense

[vagrant otter]

should I use this or hoard them?

[cobalt rapids]

use when ure boosting low lvl ship so they can survive where ure grinding

[whole crypt]

or boost a higher level ship for carrying better, depends on what you have and what you're doing

[rapid grail]

both are fine but hoarding them is the better play in the long term in case you want to speedrun some poor sod to lvl 100 to 120

[ivory crown]

does opsi lower morality

[whole crypt]

in the long term you don't need to hoard them you jsut get them

and if anything you want to bump the lower levels so you can drag the ship to leveling in higher stages, not bump the top levels

[undone plover]

Is META skill levelling 1 per ship or 1 total?

[vagrant otter]

how about this?

[forest palm]

do not, that's just wasteful

[inland shoal]

What?

[undone plover]

can i unlock 1 skill from 2 meta ships and expect them to level together? or does unlocking one lock out the other one?

[forest palm]

you can only Lv 1 Meta Skill Per Ship, but you can level Multiple Ships

[inland shoal]

As is quite clearly indicated by both of the skins being marked as leveling

[whole crypt]

you can level 1 skill at a time for each META ship but there's no limit to how many ships you can level in one go

[undone plover]

well i didnt want to waste 5 books before confirming

[whole crypt]

each ship will be limited by its own skill leveling tasks though

you're not wasting if you still level the skill later, you're just using it earlier

[forest palm]

Skill XP missions refresh on level, and that tends to choke at around Lv 8 for SSRs

[undone plover]

you know what I mean

[whole crypt]

just throw them into OS and let it run itself

[vagrant otter]

uhmm so should I take it that I should keep them and not use em?

[whole crypt]

don't buy cubes

[forest palm]

just never convert gems to cube, coin, or oil, it's poor value

[soft raft]

esp if it's F2P gems

[whole crypt]

unless you whale

[tame orchid]

Honestly do whatever

Doesn't matter much, i just forget about em, farming gives way better exp

[whole crypt]

please don't tell people to do whatever with their gems

[undone plover]

only use gems for 1 dorm slot (some ppl suggest 2) + 2nd floor of dorm then all should go into dockspace.

[tame orchid]

I mean exp diaries

[whole crypt]

the question already moved on from XP books

[tame orchid]

Wait really

[soft raft]

do you realize what you were replying to

[unborn owl]

oil cap?

[soft raft]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[vagrant otter]

oh I actually meant the cubes... I didn't have any intention to convert it

[tame orchid]

Well he didnt state gems so i got confused

[unborn owl]

this event has oil cap?

[whole crypt]

SP5

[soft raft]

Just scroll up a bit #gameplay-help message

[tame orchid]

But yeah if gems only spend them on like first 3-4 dorm slots, second floor and dock slots

[vagrant otter]

shoul I use it and build now or should I hoard and wait for an event?

[tame orchid]

Nothing else

[whole crypt]

1 light daily if you're not pulling the banner

[terse sinew]

Loadout for Formidable Muse?

[tame orchid]

Yeah for the quest, it makes it a net zero lose

[undone plover]

having 3 dorm slots + second floor gives u 6 total slots which helps u recover morale and farm more efficiently

[terse sinew]

Same as her old one?

[tame orchid]

Do 1 light per day

[sweet delta]

Normal planes for her purpose like most other carriers

[vagrant otter]

alright, thanks I'll do that

[tame orchid]

The event pulls count for the UR pity so you arent losing out on much

[sweet delta]

UR pity is near irrelevant so I don't see how that recuperates losses

[tame orchid]

More like there's not much reason to pull for others imo

[whole crypt]

if you want banner ships pull banner
if you don't want banner ships pull 1 light daily
period

[tame orchid]

We do have URs about to come in so if youre pulling banner be warned

One hits next month

I pulled em anyway cause im a dumbass though

[vagrant otter]

on average how many light cubes can be earned per week for a f2p player?

[sweet delta]

50-70

[whole crypt]

168 guaranteed per month so on average 40+, plus commissions

[cobalt rapids]

168 guaranteed / month but distribution per week isnt linear + coms depending how active/lucky u are

[sweet delta]

40 if you just log in without doing commissions

[tame orchid]

You might get more from comms

[vagrant otter]

but I seems to have read before that doing comms as a beginner is not good?

[inland shoal]

Probably 50 just from logging in without comms, considering the cubes we get in shops, mail etc too, but not sure how much that rly amounts to

[whole crypt]

no idea where you read that, you should do all the comms you can manage

[viscid swift]

where on earth did you read that, makes no sense seeing as they're free

[whole crypt]

the only time you might need to skip a comm is if you need a lv100 ship for chip comm and you need to use that ship in active grinding

[woeful forge]

probably read that commission farming is a bad idea for beginners
(it's also a bad idea for non-beginners)

[atomic abyss]

doing major 1k or 1.2k oil comms as a beginner is the issue

[whole crypt]

commission farming is bad for any player

[inland shoal]

Oh that makes sense

[tame orchid]

Wut, well one thing is that dont do the training comm thing that takes 1000 oil

[whole crypt]

not just beginners

[inland shoal]

He already said that tho

[whole crypt]

long comm is not bad for very low level

especially if you're just not spending oil fast enough and need coins

[tame orchid]

Also maybe if you havent reached oil cap

Or low point on campign

[forest palm]

does anyone have a CM Build I can copy

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething soyuz 20s

[inland shoal]

199 Reload

[forest palm]

[whole crypt]

that's 199rld with Mk7 right?

[inland shoal]

Yeah

[forest palm]

I'd rather be lazy about this... than using math

[whole crypt]

it's the laziest and easiest way to do this month's CM

[inland shoal]

Wow so much math required to get her to 199 rld

[forest palm]

then you could produce a build

[inland shoal]

Just search the channel then

[whole crypt]

you could probably just slap your regular rainbows around soyuz as long as they dont' affect her load time

[tame orchid]

Its better than EVE online stat sheets or minecraft farm building atleast for me

Fuckin psychos designing those

[cobalt rapids]

[whole crypt]

#off-topic

[tame orchid]

Fair enough

[forest palm]

Just stop talking, don't ping me with useless shit as well

[sweet delta]

[tame orchid]

lol,k

[craggy lance]

is there a skill that has a carrier double launch their airstrike for free? I coulda sworn there was but I’m having trouble finding it

[cobalt rapids]

quick takeoff

[craggy lance]

ah ok

also why does ryuujou have a “wait I’m not ready yet” skill pop up in sortie? It’s not listed on her wiki page

[sweet delta]

maybe depends on the fleet

[cobalt rapids]

can you share a pic

[plain saffron]

it's prob the banner when the rng fail

1st skill is 70% proc chance

[sweet delta]

Oh skill banner not voice line

[cobalt rapids]

she has a banner on fail

[craggy lance]

lemme try and get one

[forest palm]

will this do for CM

[sweet delta]

is it "Hold on, I'm not ready yet"

[plain saffron]

huh it's under 2nd skill or 1st skill, the id looks like 2nd skill

[atomic abyss]

wouldn't be the first time the devs did weird stuff with ryuujou

[plain saffron]

ouh it's when she proc, bcs 5s delay?

after 5s it's Ready to go

[plain saffron]

i wish EN carry all of it, emden is missing those stuff

[whole crypt]

well does it add to 199RLD for you

[forest palm]

threw it together, not sure

[cobalt rapids]

yea exactly

[whole crypt]

give it a try, you should find out rather quickly if you have enough, too much or too little rld

[plain saffron]

is that fleet for next CM

[forest palm]

nah, that's for YKK

[sweet delta]

fleet for next CM is put 3 rainbow main fleet and afk

[whole crypt]

Yukikaze is CM

what's next month again?

[forest palm]

Takao?

[whole crypt]

this is like the end of the first yearly cycle?

[atomic abyss]

i mean...
im still wondering how they made this error

[forest palm]

yes, next month is the last Zodiac

[atomic abyss]

yeah game is weird

[plain saffron]

no i mean emden is missing those popup when change mode

[atomic abyss]

you can go onore yongshi again

[plain saffron]

JP have it so i blame EN yostar

[forest palm]

I'm not surprised these issues exist when you have to manage like 5 clients, and they all have to function

[round hare]

Any guide or commands for gear lab priority

[forest palm]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[round hare]

Ty

[round hare]

Between all hull types is there special priority or order

[forest palm]

work on your main fleet, then your vanguard

[round hare]

Aight

[sweet delta]

do torpedo bombers first for electronics, and for non-electronics there are 128mm DD gun or quad mag torp

[forest palm]

@round hare

[round hare]

[atomic abyss]

so what is supposed to be the "meta" CV comp for opsi bossing

avp haku nano?

or does that only apply for non light

[sweet delta]

kear yorkii implac or haku shinano implac depending on boss

[atomic abyss]

right i forgot impla
so avp can sit in lacking impla?

[forest palm]

yup

as long as she's F5

[atomic abyss]

so york II for light i assume
otherwise enty?

[forest palm]

the first comp is mostly aimed towards light, yes, though you can just use the second if you don't mind juggling gear

[blazing shale]

and med's also fine for the kear comp right?

[forest palm]

I'd rather just use Impy + Haku + Nano tbh

[whole crypt]

I don't think there's any scenario where you'd drop Yorktown II for Enterprise with Kearsarge

[atomic abyss]

i mean im swapping from my cope cv comp with enty avp essex

[forest palm]

unless you don't have Yorkii

[atomic abyss]

which was built for light thx to arbiter lol

[whole crypt]

then don't use Kearsarge, you need a AA debuffer, unless you intend to cope with Laffey II

[forest palm]

I just use Haku + Nano + Impy with saved loadouts, and change accordingly while using Guam + Kaza + Sirius in the front

[atomic abyss]

azuma outchonks anchorage right

[forest palm]

no, the opposite, by a lot

[atomic abyss]

seriously...

[forest palm]

Anchor competes with Agir which is the tankiest CB, Azuma is the least tankiest CB

[inland shoal]

I mean it's not thaat cope

[atomic abyss]

anchorage what are you smoking

literally

[forest palm]

she does have smoke

it just goes to show how cracked PR4 as a whole is

[atomic abyss]

the timing is a paaaaaaaaain

what do you mean avp is too fast

[forest palm]

[hard sedge]

Yo peeps how tf do u guys gears ur ships I mean like did u guys just go to koumakan and just see like what gears is like the best for each ship

[forest palm]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[cobalt rapids]

gearing is prob the hardest part so u can just follow the guides/tl till u learn it urself

[steady beacon]

Told you so

[sweet delta]

there's plenty of homework available to be copied. The hard part of copying is copying the right answers

[dire mesa]

Hello. How can i restore my account? My account has been dropped because im delete the game and don't link account with mail

[cobalt rapids]

/techsupport

[odd root]

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[dire mesa]

Thanks

[hard sedge]

but well atm im stucked on the event cuz most of my ship is at lvl 80 - 90 :/ and I dont have enuf bullin cuz most of the ship tht i built were SSR did I fcked up?

[whole crypt]

probably, rarity is a newbie trap

[cobalt rapids]

ye abit, youre resource capped early which means your ships will be capped and handicapped by missed lbs

[hard sedge]

ahahahahahaha

[wind hazel]

it's an easy fix really

[hard sedge]

i wanna clear sp stages

[whole crypt]

SSRs harder to LB and there are a bunch of shit SSRs out there that are worse than easier to access ships

[hard sedge]

[atomic abyss]

...is the solution for avp being too fast for nano haku to speed up the 2 or slow down avp

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

depends on how much you can speed up Shinano/Hakuryuu and how much you can slow down AvP

[forest palm]

pretty sure you want to squeeze August in the middle, there's also the CV Manjuu aux if you want to play with that

[atomic abyss]

i mean im assuming i want it to be haku -> avp -> nano

[whole crypt]

timings can get fiddly, there's also levels and oath

Shinano can go first too there's not much difference as long as AvP well timed between the two

[round hare]

What is the oath priority / worthy for rainbows

[whole crypt]

waifu, otherwise none of them or all of them

[round hare]

💀

[round hare]

Fair

[whole crypt]

don't oath for stats if you're not prepared for that rabbit hole

[forest palm]

oathing can really throw a wrench in min/max setups for CVs

so you do all or none

[whole crypt]

you can skip vanguard to make sure she's slow enough

[round hare]

Alright, what about BB/BCs

[whole crypt]

what about BB/BCs

[round hare]

Do oath matter on them

[atomic abyss]

well
ive currently got nano and haku literally 0.02s apart...

[round hare]

Will it be^ if oathing them

[whole crypt]

which part of "don't oath for stats" wasn't clear

[round hare]

Well why tho

[atomic abyss]

avp is the issue here
im guessing i have to gimp her fighter slot to slow her down further

unless you're a 🐳
oathing for stats only makes your life more difficult

[round hare]

Wouldnt 12% help alot

[whole crypt]

it's just 6%

[atomic abyss]

it's only 6%

[steady beacon]

Uh... this is like... more than year-old knowledge so forgive any errors, but the way I remember is Saiun Shina, Ju-87 Haku

[forest palm]

have you considered

[wind hazel]

it messes with RLD timing, so your oathed BB will fire at different timing, making syncing harder for your fleet

[atomic abyss]

where does that even come from 💀

[forest palm]

core data

[atomic abyss]

oh

HMM

[steady beacon]

Oh ye and you can play with those timing auxes I suppose
But I was too committed to my catapults by that time (and we didn't have manjuu aux back then either)

[whole crypt]

ships without oath at love get 6% already, you're only getting 6% more
game has more RNG to screw with you than for that 6% to matter besides than for meeting timing margins
for timing you also have to consider fleet tech

[forest palm]

will decrease load time by 4%

[atomic abyss]

ok that worked too well

[forest palm]

[whole crypt]

so if you want to max stats with oath you either do it with your whole "meta" fleet, or you just don't bother at all and oath your waifus

[tame orchid]

Is enty better than sara?

[atomic abyss]

btw, im assuming it's better to go all in on the tb/db for haku/nano?
or is a 1000lbx2 fighter still the way to go

[round hare]

Why does syncing matter tho? Since theres cooldowns between fire, sorry if this question sounds dumb im trying to figure out how stats works

[forest palm]

TB + DB for Heavy, BFG for light + med

[atomic abyss]

because you'd want to ensure to get the most out of skills
helena's debuff wants you to fire at the 20s mark for example

[round hare]

Ahhh make sense

[soft raft]

it mainly is a thing to syncronize BB salvos to Helena debuff or syncing your CVs to fire in the window of a slow/freeze like Implacable or AvP

[wind hazel]

sync with aegir slow 🧠

[forest palm]

Agir slow left the same door Room slow did

[round hare]

I have non of those but ig oathing doesnt sound that great (unless 💰)

[steady beacon]

Never mind, Saiuns tighter after all @atomic abyss , for example:

[whole crypt]

the recommendation for oath was always just to go with your waifus

[round hare]

Tech point grind is slow :/

[whole crypt]

the improvement isn't enough to justify buying more rings

[atomic abyss]

i managed to do it

[forest palm]

just brute force trial, and error

[atomic abyss]

avp: 23.43
haku and nano 23.53

[round hare]

I meanif im still playing this game 6 years later ill have a full free-oath fleet💀

[atomic abyss]

i don't think im getting closer than that

[whole crypt]

meta probably also already shifted by then

[round hare]

Exactly

[atomic abyss]

not to mention, my haku and nano aren't 125 yet

[whole crypt]

just stick with oathing your waifus if you're not prepared to whale for rings

[steady beacon]

Should be fine
For OpSi purposes, you'll stay in sync for long enough... probably

[round hare]

Yeah

[whole crypt]

I have no idea why I have spare rings just sitting in depot

[atomic abyss]

im so glad i have a billion ryuuseis around...

[whole crypt]

there's also mixing ryuusei/D-4/saiun around in different slots

[atomic abyss]

yeah i have done that before for ark

[whole crypt]

there plane slots have different plane count so even just swapping two slots on the same carrier can change timing

[steady beacon]

Well, assuming the double TB loadouts anyway

[whole crypt]

it's why sometimes you see the 4-plane slot gets saiun instead of the 2 or 3-plane slots, squeezing out like .2s or some shit

[atomic abyss]

nano's blue counts herself right for the 3 IJN

[whole crypt]

basic grammar rules for AL

[atomic abyss]

im sorry let me try again
does nano include herself for 3 IJN
otherwise im a baka

[steady beacon]

A "yes" also works

[atomic abyss]

so assume included unless otherwise stated

[plain saffron]

in the fleet
shinano is in the fleet
so yes

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I know examples exist but right now, I really can't even think of any that do exclude...

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head KGV

[plain saffron]

i wish they go through and make them all the same now that they changed the way they check foe it

[atomic abyss]

ooops

i forgot to account for cats

ah fuck it's still close enough

[steady beacon]

If all three get uniform boosts from the cats, it shouldn't change drastically
At least shouldn't affect the launch order

[atomic abyss]

.01, .13, .14

[inland shoal]

What is training history?

[steady beacon]

You mean the academy thing?

[cobalt rapids]

most recent ships u skill lvled that arent maxed

[atomic abyss]

if lacking ply
who slots in between agir and helena for BB fleets?
...besides aurora

[inland shoal]

Huh since when does it exist?

Unzen or Hindy or sth ig

[steady beacon]

For a... relatively long while now... I think?
At least since... 2022 I want to say...?

[inland shoal]

Wow I just noticed it for the first time
Just says it's empty anyway

[unkempt mortar]

is there any way to get oil faster

[steady beacon]

Certainly I'm pretty sure I first noticed it in 2022, at least

[steady beacon]

Just generally a damage-dealer of some description, with the two Thorin mentioned the premier options
Probably a couple of old school debuff options are possible, too, but I at least have reservations about whether that really passes muster anymore...
The solution is get Ply ASAP now that Haku is done

[atomic abyss]

...d21

and that's with every DR BP burnt

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I'd put Ply in at that dev level... even if her personal damage is like 2/3 of her full potential, that 18% works to its full strength

[atomic abyss]

more of will she live

[steady beacon]

Maybe not to the end...

[inner delta]

she will just put her mid

[atomic abyss]

was 155 kai better than seattle gun

[inner delta]

yes no it's the same

one is just cheaper

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhhhh... post-CL gun boost... maybe...?
Idt it's an earth shattering difference regardless of which way it falls...

[sweet delta]

i only care about enemy shattering differences

[atomic abyss]

[steady beacon]

Ngl, if it's for Ply I'd probably stake my bet on the Seattle gun just on account of her cracked AoA but uh... also too lazy to calculate

[atomic abyss]

anyways, the first test for my cv comp is against CA abyssal

could be one cycled with the BB fleet even w/o ply, so let's see
thanks for the helps

wait where's my albasalute

[sweet delta]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1020048500228116490

[atomic abyss]

well, the CV fleet worked miles better

1 airstrike was enough to clear 50%

ty all

[vale spindle]

Is the requirement "clear with a full combo" just a reworded version of "defeat all enemies" or do i not have to do that

[inner delta]

still gotta kill all enemy

[vale spindle]

rip

[elfin hollow]

Wait... I never really paid attention, but what's up with this ship? The torpedo stat is high, but then the efficiency of the guns is much higher. I am not sure how I am supposed to build this

[vale spindle]

use a twin 120 purple main gun, and give her good torps

auxes are usually defensive oriented so it doesnt really matter

[soft raft]

You just give her a AP gun (Since her main gimmick is boosting AP damage) and typical DD gear, nothing too complicated about that

[vale spindle]

oh right AP main gun i forgot

[elfin hollow]

Oh, I think I have one of those purple 120s laying around

[vale spindle]

but some ap main guns are worse than using a non AP main gun, like twin 100 gold rarity beats all ap guns that arent twin 128 gold rarity

I think twin 128 purple might be better than twin 120 purple but im not sure

[elfin hollow]

Hm... Do both shoot AP?

[vale spindle]

twin 100 gold is not AP
twin 120 purple is not AP
Both purple and gold twin 128 are AP

[elfin hollow]

Oh. So it sounds like I should look for twin 128s

[vale spindle]

twin 128 gold is gear laboratory only, which is locked behind operation siren (commander level 60)

[elfin hollow]

Do the purple 120s work better than what I have?

[vale spindle]

i dont think so

if you want more impact you should improve the torpedo and auxes first id say

like if you can get a quad 533 purple non magnetic torpedo (or gold quint 533 non magnetic) its a lot better

and if you get gold rarity quad magnetic then its the best torpedo in the game

based on your existing gear though im not expecting you to have vast quantities of gold rarity gear

[elfin hollow]

Alright, I'll go for that. The efficiency may not be high, but it seems like keeping the torpedo auxiliary is worth it. And I'll see what I have. I think I just got a quint 533 but I am not sure if it's magnetic or not. I'll have to check

Gold, that is

[vale spindle]

generally when you have "mixed" dds the +torpedo auxes have more or similar benefit to the +fp auxes

but it doesnt matter if you die early

like purple repair toolkit is just straight up better than fuel filter

[elfin hollow]

True. I just don't have enough of them to go around

[vale spindle]

If you want more equip help there are some guides under /equip, which you can do in #bot-spam

but yea i recommend also buying the tech boxes from event shop this event as well cause more gear then better

[elfin hollow]

I put my best gear on my most important ships, you could say. Like SR gear and toolkits

[vale spindle]

fair enough

but you dont want to spread yourself too thin so be careful

[elfin hollow]

This one is kinda for support

Yeah, I am just working on two fleets

[vale spindle]

sounds good!

[elfin hollow]

And I'll buy some tech boxes

[vale spindle]

yea just keep on grinding and gear will come eventually
research helps too

[elfin hollow]

Also, I was wondering if I should replace her with Yuudachi eventually. Working on getting her retrofitted since I have nothing else going on

I do some research, whenever I remember to do so anyway

[cobalt rapids]

if u dont alr have yuukai retro item then dont buy it

[trim path]

does dorm comfort matter? and if so, is the theme better the more expensive it is?

[jaunty vault]

yes, not exactly

comfort boosts dorm exp production

[trim path]

is it a significant increase? and is there a known best currently available theme?

[jaunty vault]

it stacks to be pretty significant
and not my knowledge, there isn't

different furnitures give different amounts of comfort

[elfin hollow]

Why not?

[jaunty vault]

theres a cap on how many furniture of one type can be counted for comfort

[trim path]

i see, so the strat is just try to fit as many types as possible?

[soft raft]

what

[jaunty vault]

dorm exp is also affected by commander level so just take it slow and buy what you like best

[trim path]

gotcha, ty

[cobalt rapids]

because its expensive for what yuudachi does, if u want a good dd just grab kawa from merit or use slight downgrades newer event gold dds

[viral vortex]

alright. which do i level up first 😔

[elfin hollow]

I have Kawakaze as well. I just wasn't sure if it's any good and didn't mess with it

[viral vortex]

not sure which is the best so uhm

[cobalt rapids]

u have 4 ur bulins on hand ? if yes then musashi assuming you dont have bz and soyuz and vanguard alr, else shinano

[viral vortex]

no bulins but thank you sm

[jaunty vault]

the article for comfort if you wanna read more, explains better than i can, recommend reading stuff below that too
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Living_Area#Comfort

[loud swift]

Thoughts? (unicorn is honestly just there as a place hder rn bc I don't know what else to put there and have no spare bulins to build up a new character)

[jaunty vault]

looks decent ish for poverty ish

[cobalt rapids]

unicorn is a staple not a placeholder but rest is fine, altho would replace sandy with and regen with something else

and the non mlb URs aswell

mby lb2 guam can stay

[loud swift]

Ic ty ty

[wispy pendant]

Mlb, Musashi or shinano

[lavish dirge]

current muse characters are limited right

[cobalt rapids]

ye

[eager mulch]

s

[vale apex]

is indep better than enty

[soft raft]

In bossing? No not really
In mob? Enty is gonna be in boss 99% of the time so may as well use Indep there

They kinda dont really do the same thing

[eager mulch]

they both launch plane indep has natural stagger with good damage and a cross fleet while enty is big damage

[elfin hollow]

Which one should I upgrade? I’m fairly new.

[eager mulch]

doesn’t really matter, you’ll max them all out eventually

[vale apex]

is theseus worse than both

is theseus worse than sara as well

damn i levelled up my theseus for no reason

[worldly pewter]

the BF 109 has ap rockets ? i saw it now doing purple damage

[soft raft]

Man I wonder why that is

[vale apex]

any of these replacing my 1st 6 ships?

[worldly pewter]

anchorage and agir most likely

[vale apex]

what

[worldly pewter]

get them from research
anchorage is very accessible

[vale apex]

also why did someone here say that roon isnt that much better than portland kai when portland is in T3 and roon is in T1

[woven tendon]

what is a better purchase? 120 dock space or a l2d skin

[vale apex]

also jintsuu worth building?

[worldly pewter]

if they said that then most likely the tier list isn't updated
i m not sure

[thorny grove]

don't think you should always hail a tier list as truth anyway

[soft raft]

Becasue Roon is essentially a more expensive and time consuming Portland sidegrade

[vale apex]

what abt this

[silk sphinx]

eh. considering how few ships you have, could be useful

[low juniper]

What was that photo of Prinz Eugen I just got from an event mission and where do I see it

[crisp estuary]

[harsh gust]

event collectable, there's a button in main menu to access it

[low juniper]

Where

Oh found it

[midnight bluff]

Is it better to just covert excess special blueprint series 3 into protocore or use them on drake/azuma?

[sharp token]

better convert them

[midnight bluff]

Same with general series 4 blueprints and lower? Convert those into protocore as well I would assume?

[sharp token]

it depends on you, if you don't have time to grind exp then save them up but if you have plenty of time then convert.

[woeful forge]

he's talking about blueprints not the xp things
lot more situational if those are worth converting or if getting a pr/dr up to dev30/fs5 faster is better

[vagrant otter]

what does this mean?

[humble gale]

If there's an oil cap on the stage when auto clearing, you use 3 main + 3 vanguard. If there's no oil cap, 1 main 1 vanguard.

[soft raft]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[vagrant otter]

so that means for 1:1 you use only two ships?

[humble gale]

Yes.

[tropic tusk]

say if i have roon u does her exp counts to my research on iron blood things?

[atomic abyss]

Yes she does

[tropic tusk]

thx

this skin could i reach 100 on her u version to use this skin?

[south sequoia]

As stated

[tropic tusk]

cause i thought i was only for her normal one

[south sequoia]

Muse, II and Zwei ships are able to use the og versions skins if they have 100 affinity aka Love

The only alternate ships that aren't able to use their ogs skins are kaga bb, metas and lil's

[tropic tusk]

oh ok thx

[vale spindle]

/wiki skins

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Spring
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Race_Queen
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/New_Year
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Party
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Summer
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Casual
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Christmas
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Hot_Springs
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/School

Apr 28, 2024, 12:31 AM

[vale spindle]

there's a section about skin sharing

[tropic tusk]

for this one does taihou u needs to be married also to use it or she can use it without getting married?

[vale spindle]

taihou u once oathed can use taihou normal oath skin, regardless of the status of taihou normal

[tropic tusk]

so just taihou u married and taihou isnt married i can use use the skin on her U version?

[vale spindle]

Yes

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[vale apex]

if i have theseus indep sara and enty do i need to level up ark royal

[atomic abyss]

Well not really

Ark is essentially replaced by August Van Parseval from PR4, who in turn is replaced by the gacha UR Implacable

[south sequoia]

ark royal serves as a support for these ships, but if you're still early on and not facing opsi bosses then you can easily just ignore ark

[south sequoia]

Oh and this too

[atomic abyss]

Well if you need to, you can come back to her eventually

[vale apex]

oh alright thanks

[warm flax]

Chang Chun or Unzen for anti light?

[soft raft]

in what specific context?

[main latch]

I don't know if Roon and Roon µ fill the same role, but if they do, who's the better one? And is Roon µ worth picking up from Core data?

[warm flax]

Yukikaze cm

[atomic abyss]

Roon muse is objectively better

And both fill up the same role as tank

And you're still probably better off investing in Portland if you're early on

If you're not early on just use Anchorage or later, Agir

[main latch]

i have her retro already along side friedrich carl

[atomic abyss]

Then Carl is just better

[vale spindle]

Roon u is better but not worth picking up from core data

[main latch]

should i just skip Roon µ

[atomic abyss]

I think that's a fair shout

[vale spindle]

portland + carl is good enough for your two tanks

[main latch]

Ah okay thanks what should i get with core data than

[vale spindle]

Only improvements would be rainbow large cruisers or anchorage

[atomic abyss]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[main latch]

Thank you.

[vale apex]

should i even get anchorage if im gonna have to get agir later to replace her anyways

[atomic abyss]

No because you'll need 2 tanks

[vale apex]

but i have carl for other tank

[atomic abyss]

And you're going to max out Anchorage long before ever maxing out Agir

Actually, maybe even 3 tanks

You will replace Anchorage eventually yes, but she's so incredibly easy to grind for

[vale apex]

how

[atomic abyss]

The issue for a new player is moreso getting the fleet tech to unlock her

[vale apex]

ye how to get the fleettech

i really dont wanna waste my exp things on shit uss ships

already doing that on iron blood ships

[atomic abyss]

The campaign mainly drop US and JP ships

So honestly just by doing the campaign, you'll get enough lol

Not to mention, the exp grinding is easy
A new player is expected to raise Portland and Helena anyways

[viscid swift]

that's more or less how you get tech as a whole for any faction

after a certain point anyway where raising a good ship vs raising a bad ship matters

[vale apex]

[boreal temple]

Is there like a loadout cheatsheet for kear fleet just like how hakunano fleets?

[silver lintel]

Whats the cheatsheet for hakunano

[terse sinew]

Agir dev or August after I finish FdG?

[rain vine]

agir

[frank pulsar]

yea, but i lost my copy

[blissful hamlet]

what do I get from the rythim minigame?

what does harmony muse ticket do

is it a gear?

[cobalt rapids]

http://renhex.github.io/alft/46
Opsi loadouts
@gummiraum.mit.ratten yorki just takes skyraider + homing beacon instead of 2x cats in kear comp if 2 slow then just ryu avp

Wtf happen to my ping

[cobalt rapids]

Here

[cobalt rapids]

An aux, stats are on datamine for all equips

[velvet pumice]

what event do we get this?

[cobalt rapids]

Pr6

[blissful hamlet]

is it the one that only change the BGM?

[cobalt rapids]

Ye

[edgy iron]

Do I teach it this skill?

[forest palm]

Destiny is not worth bothering with

[cobalt rapids]

You could

It started on avi - lookout 2-2 right ?

So not reroll worthy either way

[noble wyvern]

SP5 was harder then i expected-

[stark quiver]

how do i recoll talent in cats, and how do i determine if theyre good

[rain vine]

if the base skills are good

[stark quiver]

hm, ill js forget they exist for now

[soft raft]

@stable magnet to answer your question here #game-feedback message (Why did you even put that there in the first place?), the commemoration tab in the event hub, and no they do not give you the characters

[edgy iron]

@cobalt rapids which base skills are good?

[real shuttle]

does Muse ships can help grinding research XP and give some research points as well?

[forest palm]

you can use them for Research XP grind

[blissful hamlet]

yes

only for the xp grind but not the tech

[regal pendant]

So I've played this game on and off F2P since release, pulled on basically any banner that looked neat at the time. But since I've played so on and off I don't really know what a good team is per se let alone how to get good gear, So I figured why not do what I know people over in Dokkan do and do a "Build me a team" kinda post. Feel like I kinda have a box to work with so any suggestions?

(Redone for the third)

[stable magnet]

Yeah, wrong channel, oof

[regal pendant]

Could do elites if needed, I know retrofits are they're own thing but figured why not do "best of best" first

[viscid swift]

so uh do you ahve any SR Bullins?

[regal pendant]

Funny enough no

[viscid swift]

well that makes things exponetntially more difficult

post your elites as well, they will be needed

[regal pendant]

Bet

[soft raft]

And do it in a thread

[regal pendant]

Build-A-Team

[regal pendant]

Done

[regal pendant]

And done.

[grizzled lion]

Is there any place to farm the xp data packs? Or are those only given through the missions?

[vagrant otter]

what does MLB mean?

[rain vine]

max limit break

[steady beacon]

Portion of experience gained by Level 100+ ships is converted into xp data packs in the lecture hall

[grizzled lion]

Ah. I haven't had 1 hit 100 yet. Javelin is at 99 at the moment...needing the xp to do the last sticker quest in the current event

[dapper musk]

is the toolbox always better than the gold HP gears?

to use with rudder

[rain vine]

generally, yes

[soft raft]

Gold toolbox when

[vagrant otter]

should I use this now or hoard?

[south sequoia]

Only use if you lack time

if you plan to grind for long periods of time it's not worth it

[tame orchid]

Drains your oil

[rain vine]

more like it drains ship mood

[dapper musk]

whats the difference between HIT and FP for vanguards ships?

[sweet delta]

Same as for main fleet ships

Vanguard ships who have high hit and low fp benefit more from 1 more fp than 1 more hit

[sweet delta]

I would almost always prefer the good gold 550 hps to toolkit, but it's not the end of the world if you default to toolkit

[dapper musk]

what are the good gold 550s?

[sweet delta]

Gold burn, ascension box, RPG interface, alizarin, cyanidin, and some other niche ones like the +6% dmg to sakura

[dapper musk]

[tropic tusk]

is there link for all l2d skin interaction ?

[vale spindle]

not really but if you go on youtube theres probably someone who did

[dapper musk]

is there a eva aux i can get other than the heels

guams stuck on toolbox

[vale spindle]

gold rudder > blue rudder / blue naval camo

blue rudder and blue naval camo are literally the exact same thing statwise, the faction might be different but thats it lol

[dapper musk]

ripp would cyanidin be better than blue rudder on her

[blissful hamlet]

cyanidin is a hp aux

you probably want toolbox + blue eva

[whole crypt]

pretty sure EVA is better than cyanidin towel + skill HP

[plain saffron]

https://l2d.algwiki.moe/ like this?

[dapper musk]

ive got a gold rudder on her

[tropic tusk]

oh that one is nice to have also but i want to know where i click to trigger them

[dapper musk]

picking between cyanidin shield toolbox heal and blue rudd

[plain saffron]

yeah youtube i guess

[blissful hamlet]

if you're mobbing then toolbox is better than cyanidin

[ember harbor]

Can anyone create me 5 as op as possible fleets with the units I have? Ill venmo them $25 for the best one. I was mia for 2 years and am really confused bout team building now

[sweet delta]

mobbing in difficult content -> torp bulge

[soft raft]

5 fleets?
Why do you need that many?
What are you trying to do?
And there's no need to pay people for this shit 💀

Also threads exist for dock posting

[ember harbor]

there is??

[dapper musk]

would unzen want alizarin more or plymouth?

[ember harbor]

they gave me 6 fleets so dont i need to use them all?

[tropic tusk]

the amont of gold boolins

[dapper musk]

you can only bring 2 max anyways

4 in OPSI

[soft raft]

You can only use two fleets at a time in campaign

And at most you'd use 4 fleets in Operation siren but that mode has a separate fleet interface

[ember harbor]

oh i see. thank you for the info!

[whole crypt]

wouldn't make much difference, both are short term buffs that don't really do much for fights that matter

[vocal cosmos]

Do these idol ships give perma stats when they hit 120?

[rain vine]

no

[viscid swift]

No

[vocal cosmos]

Bruh

[whole crypt]

they have not since 4 years ago

[dapper musk]

idol ships?

[whole crypt]

muse

[fervent hearth]

What’s the link for the 13+ priority?

[plain saffron]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[fervent hearth]

Pog

[dapper musk]

why is VH armor fine on guam but bad on agir and ancho?

[rocky fjord]

agir is heavy armor, ancho is class restricted

[echo axle]

Should I? Or should I wait for Agir

[rain vine]

just do it

[blissful hamlet]

it doesn't really matter since it will still take long time before they are usable especially avp

but if you can't unlock agir then do avp

[rain vine]

not with the amount of prints

[elfin hollow]

Is tiny Shinano more useless than big Shinano?

[blissful hamlet]

ah I'm blind didn't see the prints

[vale spindle]

yes

[echo axle]

Rip print, I did not prioritize her

I only prioritized Agir, how much does she need again)

[dapper musk]

should i prioritize UR AA gun for DDs cuz they cant use sextuple?

[vale spindle]

yes

[blissful hamlet]

you can use other accelerator

[hollow gust]

why cant they use sextuple?

[dapper musk]

does that include laffey2 or is she a good user for sextuple

[rain vine]

agir is usable from dev 15, which is 110 prints
you have enough to get her to 20+

avp needs 508 prints to really be good

[hollow gust]

sextuple usally goes on the ship with the best aa in the fleet, or an aa carry, laffey 2 is often both

[elfin hollow]

Is she at least still usable in normal fleet despite her flawed barrage??

[dapper musk]

DDs have lowest Anti air stat

[vale spindle]

yes shes very usable, just worse than big shinano

[blissful hamlet]

not all DD

all except laffey2

[hollow gust]

Nano has the same barrage

[dapper musk]

so laffey can use sextuple bet

[plain saffron]

she's made for w15

[elfin hollow]

I don't have Nano, I'm Lv.20

[blissful hamlet]

~~little shinano T0 ~~

[uneven cave]

When did Haku get her FS5, and how much of an improvment is it?

[blissful hamlet]

pretty big improvement

[frank pulsar]

like 10-15% iirc?

[echo axle]

I have some questions regarding who to Limit Break. Since NJ got powercrept, I'm looking towards Zwei and Musashi, who can really do the carrying in any type of content generally. Or should I just wait it out for Unzen banner or something like that to pull for UR Frontline, I have no UR Frontline

[grand solar]

Soo need some advice. I have enough special tokens right now, I can get 5 SR ? Mark Gear plans from the store or one rainbow wrench gear looking plate? Whicb one ahould I put out the tokens for.

[plain saffron]

you mean you have zwei and musashi or waiting for them to rerun?

[echo axle]

I have both of them

[soft raft]

If you want to save up blanks in reserve to convert for future gear lab items, the gear plans

If you plan on +13'ing a UR gear, the "Wrench gear plate" thingy

[plain saffron]

and both MLB already?

[echo axle]

No, I'm planning to MLB one of them but I don't know who to

[plain saffron]

zwei is a good choice, but if you don't have enough to MLB rn i would prob wait until CN anni in mid/late may

[grand solar]

I only have a few pieces of UR gear right now. So not sure on it.

[echo axle]

I have 26k specialized cores, should I spend for the Bulins to LB? I have no dupes of either Zwei or Musashi

[elfin hollow]

I got a question

After I got AVP what ships should i get next (i also got fdg and anchorage and agir)

[south sequoia]

Just finish the entirety of pr4

[plain saffron]

mmm prob mlb zwei for now, you'll get enough by the time next UR come out to MLB another UR, mlb the new UE if she's better than musashi. else mlb musashi

[echo axle]

So I should wait it out for the anni or the rerun banners?

[elfin hollow]

I ngl dont wanta research marco

[plain saffron]

anni will come first most likely

[south sequoia]

If you research then finish her you'll get her out of the research pool and complete the others faster

She can also appear in pr5 and pr6 researches if you left her unfinished

[plain saffron]

there's enough time to fit a rerun but hopefully they don't put UR rerun in that slot

[south sequoia]

Best to just finish it right now then let marco hinder you in the long term

[elfin hollow]

Alr

So I research marco next or hakuyuu?

[echo axle]

So waiting it out is the binder for now

[plain saffron]

mlb zwei, then wait for next

[south sequoia]

I guess marco since you can use coins to finish her

[plain saffron]

well you can not mlb zwei if you not pushing content or whatever

[elfin hollow]

Alr

[silk edge]

Good start so far? I got no idea what im doing or fleet formations

[fluid brook]

Might wanna invest in a single fleet first

[elfin hollow]

Unicorn long island and nelson will do for main fleet

[rapid grail]

so far so good, owari 👀

[uneven cave]

Why would you recommend long island

[elfin hollow]

Use portland for tank and for now temporary use indy for that extra statsand z23 for damage and

[elfin hollow]

Fast reload

[fluid brook]

Uh drop indy for Hatsu since shes alr lvl and lb

[rapid grail]

long island and indianapolis recommendation in the year of our lord 2024

[elfin hollow]

Hmm yea ur right

[fluid brook]

He also have enty, the problem would be SR bulins

[elfin hollow]

Long island is more cheaper then enterprise thats why i suggest her

[atomic abyss]

Long Island was never an unironical recommend even back in 2018...

[fluid brook]

Double BBs can be a thing too, but i wanna go first with enty than with nelson

[atomic abyss]

Ranger was always better than long island and even lower rarity

[south sequoia]

Indianapolis is a hard no since her boost to portland is not enough to run her over helena or your starter

[wind hazel]

owari+unicorn probably would carry far enough into the campaign

[elfin hollow]

I dont see a ranger

[plain saffron]

penny/owari? unicorn enty portland z23 anyone
focus your gold bulins on enty

[south sequoia]

Long island was always just there because thats what quite literally the game gives you kek

[atomic abyss]

Ranger is a common

[wind hazel]

just ditch penny, owari already 1 off from MLB, might as well keep using

[plain saffron]

so focus on mlb owari 1st then enty

or go with ranger instead of enty 🤔

[fluid brook]

Go with shinier

[plain saffron]

what's the point of shinier if shit(no LB)

[silk edge]

huh infomation overload right now
why should i start using portland, z23 and more?

[fluid brook]

Better and Cheaper

[plain saffron]

rookie mission + they're good + not gold so no need to worry gold bulin shortage

[rapid grail]

also they both have pretty good retrofits that you can do later on if you raise them

[plain saffron]

multiple non max limit break gold worse than 1 MLB gold

[uneven cave]

And don't let the guy grief you with the long island and indy bullshit

I want my long island ring refunded

[fluid brook]

was worried about wasting time, lvl and mlb enty later when making second fleet, but just go fast to w9 and grind there

[rapid grail]

wait is owari barrage centered or not

[uneven cave]

You're wasting even more time by bottlenecking yourself with a SR bulin shortage

[plain saffron]

owari prob can carry, keep enty when can make 2nd fleet

[fluid brook]

Yes thats what i was thinking, mb

[silk edge]

How about the rest of my gold ships?

[fluid brook]

a big F

[uneven cave]

Consider raising them later once you've gotten 1 or 2 good fleets to stomp most content

Priority is getting 1 or 2 solid fleets up and running to unlock later stages for more efficient power farming

[fluid brook]

Unicorn Owari Nelson Portland Z23 Helena, MLB Owari is prio, getting Unicorn retrofit is superPrio and you can get Helena in guildshop which will help in endgame stuff

@silk edge

[plain saffron]

why not ranger instead of nelson

[fluid brook]

BBs guns are easier to get

[plain saffron]

unicorn gonna need all the bulins and owari already there

[silk edge]

Alright

[plain saffron]

0lb bb with good gun is 🚮 anyway

[fluid brook]

but its more easier to get than a full geared CV, that will still need bulins

[plain saffron]

there's a lot of poverty planes you know

[fluid brook]

Although ranger can be drop from maps, and very common too

[wind hazel]

you can use anything there honestly, but unicorn+owari alone take care a lot of stuff that it barely matters who that 3rd ship is

[rapid grail]

recommend nevada/oklahoma for 2nd bb. pretty neat once you get to w10 or smth, plus they're really cheap to raise w/ dupe drops and a neat retrofit to blue rarity

generally speaking, 2 BB + Unikai is fine as a mob fleet for most content that isn't plane hell

[frank pulsar]

just use sara or smth as poverty

[hollow gust]

why would you use either of them, Nelson is easily assessable

[frank pulsar]

^ that too

[hollow gust]

and ill rather use ranger over both

[ember harbor]

Team build help for noobie

[slow fox]

Can I get a source on this, senator?

[elfin hollow]

What should I buy at core date (i bought the dd gun and ap white shell)

[rapid grail]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[frank pulsar]

how many pt should i stop at for the event

[fluid brook]

personally 55k for the last gold plates

[frank pulsar]

i really need coin though

i havent even done my pulls yet cuz no coin

[fluid brook]

Uh depends how desperate you are for the pulls

Can just grind 10.5k for 5k oil and eugen if you dont get her

[sweet delta]

[frank pulsar]

ive done like 5 pulls this whole event
ill just stop midway at like 30k

[atomic abyss]

I haven't actually done the calcs for them

But I already recall calculating a case for z46 to go Rudder+box

[frank pulsar]

smth smth they have similar hp and eva stat spread to harbin so therefore rudder better than second toolkit

[atomic abyss]

And those ancient calcs were before accounting for the HP recovering from the toolbox and the rudder's evasion skill so

And z46 has less HP than the 2

[elfin hollow]

What is vh armor plating good for

[slow fox]

Here are my calcs:

Felix: Toolkit + 550
Otto: Toolkit + 550
Z46: Toolkit + 550
Harbin:Toolkit + 550

[frank pulsar]

on your tank to increase survivability when enemy torp or plane dmg is not a concern

basically never

[calm cradle]

How do I choose the best aircraft for a slot that can have any type? Does each type excel at different things?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Generally
Fighters are for anti air usually
Dive bombers are for aoe usually
Torpedo bombers can be either aoe or ST depending on parallel or converging

The exceptional cases are really the gear lab stuff

[calm cradle]

What about Rockets? and the Skyraider?

[sweet delta]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[calm cradle]

Are those all preferable for bossing, or is a slow/stop+converging preferable?

[blissful hamlet]

rocket and skyraider are for single target light/medium armor boss

[blissful hamlet]

converging is better for heavy armor boss

[sweet delta]

hvarcat and bf109g do more against light and medium than converging tb

[calm cradle]

Ah okay

Could I go so far as to say that Haku and Yorkii are stronger than Nano against Med/Light because they don't have a Torp Bomber slot?

[blissful hamlet]

York2 is definetly stronger vs light

[sweet delta]

haku is just stronger than

[silk edge]

Wait so whats the issue with me using all my gold ships? Are they just way too expensive in comparison to the ones you mentioned?

[crimson glacier]

ship that is missing stars is just trash

and unicorn is literally the best healer in the game, she is auto included in like every fleet in campaign

except the ones that focus bosses

helenas buffs dmg more than any gold ship

[inland shoal]

What's the difference?

[crimson glacier]

the names 🙂

[inland shoal]

I mean how big is the diff compared to rudder

[sage garden]

do I want to do it?

[plain saffron]

assuming your guild is somewhat active, yes buy it you have enough guild funds

[slow fox]

tour guild 🗣️

[plain saffron]

[sweet delta]

Is rudder better or worse than usual in chapter 14 because of flares?

[slow fox]

What do the flares do?

[sweet delta]

Idk either

[slow fox]

They decreased EVARate, last I recall.

[sweet delta]

I recall it too

[slow fox]

By how much? 20%? 30%?

[sweet delta]

It's chapter 15 smoke that doesn't affect eva rate

Probably 20% or 25%

[slow fox]

So what I'm going to do is grab Felix JERVIS, regular, and pretend that she has -20% EVARate.

[sweet delta]

grabbing felix

[slow fox]

The ratio between Rudder and 550 for JERVIS in -20% EVARate mode is 1.12 .

The ratio between Rudder and 550 for JERVIS in regular is 1.05 .

I conclude that Rudder is better than usual in CH14 because of flares.

[meager fox]

Can anyone explain to me what is a vanguard and main? i have been playing this game for 2 weeks only

[unkempt mortar]

is kear good in both ways of the hybrid type or only bb or cv

[crimson glacier]

vanguard is frontline and main fleet is back

[meager fox]

Ohh thanks

[crimson glacier]

kear is basically just a BB with weaknesses of both BBs and CVs

[unkempt mortar]

now rephrase to someone as stupid as me

[crimson glacier]

BB who doesnt have secondaries

[tame orchid]

Btw get unicorn and put her in your fleet, she's cracked as a healer

[meager fox]

I don't have unicorn

[unkempt mortar]

you forgot the retrofit her part

[tame orchid]

Get her from guild shop

[tame orchid]

I mean it'll take a while to get there so , focus on MLBing her first

[unkempt mortar]

my stupid ass doesnt get what the secondaries are

[tame orchid]

But yeah what he said, retrofit her as soon as possible

[unkempt mortar]

o h

so uh essentially shes a meh bb?

[crimson glacier]

well she is good on some places

i just dont see much of a reason to use her

[unkempt mortar]

well, at least ill have android wife

[tame orchid]

So uh how do DR blueprints work

[crimson glacier]

same way as PR

[heavy shale]

how is sovetsky soyuz being used? she replace anyone?

[crimson glacier]

used like any other good BB

[jaunty vault]

UR BB good

[crimson glacier]

i think some ppl use her in place of musashi in opsi but i havent bothered to slot her in my fleets

[jaunty vault]

i am some people

[uneven cave]

Me too

[unkempt mortar]

but is she a good option if my only ur bbs are uvh and nj

[crimson glacier]

well she is more useful than NJ atleast in the endgame but i wouldnt know how to use her

[unkempt mortar]

well, its too late to stop anywat

i have 87% on 2nd exp task

[crimson glacier]

do you have the 513 prints ready

coz even d29 kear is still just shit

[crisp estuary]

[unkempt mortar]

uhhh..
..43 bp

[tropic parcel]

soyuz is great in pvp but in pve she doesn't really slot in any exisiting fleets if you have everything

[rapid grail]

she only has fighters, sucks at cv stuff; bb part is not so bad though. one of the better anti-light choices even if you're not using any CVs
her plane can buff dmg from BB salvos (picrel)

[blissful hamlet]

[rapid grail]

she def is, she's great against all armor types, assuming correct gearing

[tropic parcel]

ok, given a musashi/vg/bis II main fleet is she that much better then those 3 at their given roles

[blissful hamlet]

you can have more than one fleet

and against light I'd use soyuz than musashi

[rapid grail]

better than musashi against light and comparable at medium (musashi doesn't have a good IJN HE gun to take advantage of)
better than biszwei against heavy and if you're fine with losing biszwei's black hole in favor of soyuz's barrage's slow effect

could also use biszwei - soyuz - vanguard for your BB fleet needs if you're tired of swapping ships out lol

[crimson glacier]

i just dont believe that she is better than zwei on anything

[sweet delta]

are you sure about that? she's not capping evasion in regular battles?

[rapid grail]

it's fine, iirc the heavy armor arbiter doesn't move much anyways. up to preference

[sharp token]

where i can get acoustic torp? i only have one since i've played

[plain saffron]

how many HP is current META?

[crimson glacier]

like 1.15m?

[atomic abyss]

Yes, 1.15m

[plain saffron]

thanks

[rapid grail]

this fella? Sub Weekly at Daily Raid

[slow fox]

No, this was EVA taken as an average. She does cap evasion in regular battles. That would make the gap in performance larger.

[sharp token]

no, surface torpedo not for submarine

[atomic abyss]

Ironblood boxes

[sharp token]

other than that?

[atomic abyss]

Nothing

I can't remember if you can get it from research as "extra"

I do believe you can farm them in one of the archives
But it ain't worth

[blissful hamlet]

gear lab

quad mag right?

[sweet delta]

assuming a non-jervis dd without capping evasion, i got that rudder is a lot worse during -20% eva rate

[plain saffron]

with which event current METa added?

[crimson glacier]

isnt that stuff on wiki patch notes

[steady beacon]

You mean RodM? It was March 14, alongside VT rerun

[slow fox]

Top - Ratio of Laffey II regularly

Bottom - Ratio of Laffey II with -20% EVARate.

[plain saffron]

thanks

[kind slate]

is vit-2 good?

[blissful hamlet]

some people prefer cuda over vit but yes it is good

[echo vector]

I think I saw somebody posting someone data mining formi's new skin. Any post about that I can look into ?

[plain saffron]

google formidable skin reddit

[echo vector]

Okay

[plain saffron]

nvm that doesn't show result i'm hoping

[plain saffron]

go to r/azurlane, search formidable and sort by new

idk if linking that going to ban me or not

[echo vector]

Okay

[atomic abyss]

Is that even the correct subreddit

[echo vector]

Hmm i cannot find it

[steady beacon]

Oh right the phantom e

[crisp wadi]

Didn't it azure lane?

[inland shoal]

Is this really the right chat for this?

[graceful meteor]

skin-play help

[echo vector]

Oooh i just found it, only a screenshot and it's tagged as nsfw that's why it's a bit difficult to find

[echo vector]

Thanks for the help

[late flame]

too heavy

[graceful meteor]

ofc it's nsfw, else ppl already post it

[echo vector]

I think that's very tame though

Even the swimsuit skins are a loooot more raunchy

[sweet delta]

you flipped them, that's the ratio of the 550 setup to the rudder setup. So the 550 setup is comparatively better while flared (10% better than rudder) than normally (5.5% better than rudder)

[graceful meteor]

ngl compared to cheshire and NJ, pretty tame

[inland shoal]

Pls discuss how tame skins are elsewhere

[echo vector]

Okay

[slow fox]

o u right

[inland shoal]

Hmm guess she doesn't overcap that hard then?

[sweet delta]

find out the answer to that in eHP 3

[slow fox]

I don't think she overcaps that hard - if at all - with -20% EVARate.

[inland shoal]

I mean without eva rate

[slow fox]

The calcs present in eHP2 are 5% off from the real value - error prescribed to capping.

[sweet delta]

She overcaps against enemies with 100 eva 50 luck already

[inland shoal]

So even if rudder has 100% more effect during -20 (skill aside) it's still doing worse compared to toolbox than without the -20?

[slow fox]

Yes.

[inland shoal]

That sounds so weird to me but ok thx