gameplay-help

[eternal basalt]

Wait for KMS UR in may

[crimson glacier]

dont mlb any of those before the next UR

[plain saffron]

even with next UR prob better to MLB ulrich bcs closer to MLB, unless you have 3 UR bulin rn

[crimson glacier]

it depends if they already have UR BBs

[plain saffron]

actually nvm, you can get another 2 by event(maybe)

[inland shoal]

According to Mebot it's Otto

[crimson glacier]

but wasnt otto too pretty meh as mobtank on w14

[frank pulsar]

i forgot mebot has ehp chart

[inland shoal]

Imo she was decent, but I didn't try her that much

[south sequoia]

iirc felix also struggled back in w14

[inland shoal]

The annoying thing is that to make Otto tankier you kinda have to sacrifice her dmg and I don't think the additional AoAs make up for it

[vale gyro]

I just hit the UR points cap on ship building, but I have both shinano and NJ already. Who should I choose?

[inland shoal]

Both at max LB?

[eternal basalt]

30 medals Or if you have multiple skins they're good for that

[crimson glacier]

i just picked NJ and threw her away instantly

would have prefered to not pick either but the message is annoying

[vale gyro]

Yeah

[inland shoal]

Dunno never used her, but accoeding to mebot she's really similar to Jervis so

Yeah just get one of them and retire

[vale gyro]

I see, i guess I’ll go with shinano then. Since I have two of her L2Ds

[left cedar]

so, wuts the cope about Eugen U dps ? Port > Eugen U or Eugen U > Port
also how bad eHP she is compared to her OG one ?

[inland shoal]

eHP is hard to tell since it depends a lot lot lot on how many enemies your vg can kill

[cobalt rapids]

infinite ehp

[left cedar]

so in a base, not much

HELL YEAH BABY, 435UNITS IN A SINGLE BATTLE

[south sequoia]

I wouldn't say not much, it's just hard to pinpoint a solid estimate since it varies from content to content

[plain saffron]

just wait until next CM summon millions of mini minions with low HP

[normal crane]

Where to farm the event?

[plain saffron]

SP5

isp is one time

[south sequoia]

Her Ehp should still be great, but how potent she can get is a bit hard to tell

[left cedar]

and DPS, wut we can expect ? P-Class arround ?

notsure yet, since i dont even drop her yet, but looking at my experience i expect a Portland eHP with something like P-Class DPS
but notsure since its all based on my only expectations+theory from my head

[crimson glacier]

that eugen isnt even accurate

it should be 1305 kills now since other vanguards also heal her

but since you probably use better dps vanguards with her i think it should be 2k+ 🙂

[faint pecan]

Should I hold my Bulins or LB any of these UR's?
These are my SSR's as well

[jaunty vault]

cursed twist ss

[faint pecan]

fixed it haha

[jaunty vault]

how much spec core you got

[faint pecan]

897 cognitive array left and 34.9k cognitive chips

[jaunty vault]

not that

i mean the currency you buy UR bulins with

[faint pecan]

498 left

[jaunty vault]

lel

[faint pecan]

wait sorry that was wisdom cubes, what's spec core?

[south sequoia]

I would mlb laffey though I'd hold off finishing kronk and guam further

[south sequoia]

specialized cores

the silver item with a rainbow background

this

[faint pecan]

Ohh, 0 atm, i spent the last amount on the UR bulin

[jaunty vault]

rip

[faint pecan]

Should I save those instead of buying UR bulin?

[jaunty vault]

anyways, my opinion is same as cleo

[south sequoia]

Yes since the bulins would just be eating up space

[jaunty vault]

you can buy infinte bulins at once so unless you really need to use the bulin, buying one is just waste of dock space

[south sequoia]

the game doesn't limit how much bulins you can buy in a month

[faint pecan]

ooh thanks! I'll hold off until really needed before buying next time
and thanks I'll LB Laffey 2 and hold the rest

[turbid dawn]

I'm presuming it's just not worth retro-ing Chen hai at this point? Just get her to 120 and leave her as she is?

[jaunty vault]

collection %

[plain saffron]

at that point i would just exp pack her

if you only care about fleet tech

[jaunty vault]

META wise shes pretty good as w15 support assuming you do not have access to the better ones

[atomic abyss]

Were blue D or purple D researches better

[turbid dawn]

I'm only at 2,9k, I need to save them for like... in case I need them or something. But not in all seriousness I only exp pack ships from 70-100 or new UR ships

[turbid dawn]

Yeah I've already cleared 15 fully so

[jaunty vault]

depends on which philosophy you believe in

[atomic abyss]

Do explain to me the philosophies

[jaunty vault]

there's people that advocate shorter research better cause it gives you more rolls and higher chance for better research and then theres people that say fuck it, that shit's pretty rng and go for the higher rarity ones

[atomic abyss]

Ah

[inland shoal]

I will surely math thst out soon

[jaunty vault]

i personally am a believer of the fuck it philosophy

[deft surge]

can you add people in other servers as friends

[south sequoia]

nope

[jaunty vault]

fortunately for you, the ingame messaging system is shit so you can just use discord and not miss out on anything

[novel condor]

What if you're just poor don't the longer purple one costs more?

[jaunty vault]

if you're poor and cannot afford an expensive research then you take the not expensive one you can afford

[wind hazel]

just don't be poor

[keen sable]

If you want gear, and that's all you should want anyway, then shorter face is better

[novel condor]

Ic ic

[tacit mortar]

hey guys does multiple barriers stack?

[jaunty vault]

what do you mean by barriers

[atomic abyss]

assuming you mean shields, the answer is no, assuming they work the same way

as there are diff kinds of shields

[tacit mortar]

um yat sen has an exclusive item that grants shield + lusty shield = stack?

[jaunty vault]

they both work differently

[tacit mortar]

stack it is 😄

[atomic abyss]

lusty shield is HP based after all

most other shield are hit count based

[jaunty vault]

yat shield is based on yat HP

lusty shield on vanguard based on lusty HP

[noble wyvern]

is the new charaters good?

[tacit mortar]

are we gonna have a problem with it?

[atomic abyss]

nope

well

[noble wyvern]

i guess i keep saving the cubes?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[rapid grail]

purple D because that alone gives better rates since it's not guaranteed to get consecutive D1h researches 🐌

[atomic abyss]

@jaunty vault correct me if im wrong
but they'll both get eaten at the same time right

the shields

[tacit mortar]

thanks for the replies 🙂

[jaunty vault]

that i do not know

[rapid grail]

technically D 1h is better but that assumes you chain D 1h enough. Which is rare

[atomic abyss]

cos that's how the hitcount based shields work

they both get nommed at the same time if they're both hit

to my understanding

the concern here would be that the shield HP won't stack

hmm

@inland shoal save us when you have the time

[versed elk]

what is d

[atomic abyss]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[versed elk]

oh face havent done d since las year

[noble wyvern]

why did i get shinano chan out of nowhere?

[atomic abyss]

mini event, like litlle chesh

[rapid grail]

npc feature just like little chesh

[versed elk]

Beth how do i get the harmony ticket

do i ened to rhythm game everyday

[atomic abyss]

yes

[noble wyvern]

ooh

[rapid grail]

what's rhythm game

[versed elk]

the event thing

idk cuz i didn't do it yesterday for 1 of my accounts

im not interested bruh can i still quit out and get reward

[atomic abyss]

you need to hitt B

[rapid grail]

apparently @versed elk
just do 2 rhythm game session

[versed elk]

is there even a way to quit out

[eternal basalt]

And then 5 more the following 5 days

[versed elk]

so much effort

lazy tbh

[elfin hollow]

I tried to get Formidable but got Perseus instead, should I replace Unicorn for her?

[atomic abyss]

unicorn retro > perseus

[crimson glacier]

perseus is more expensive and just all around worse

[rapid grail]

uh no, just play more and get the material needed for unicorn retro
percy is viable but unikai's just better

yes you can raise percy but then you'd have to invest in some more materials

[proven juniper]

does UR points reset when they add a new UR in the perma pool?

[elfin hollow]

thanks for response

[eternal basalt]

But they said it shouldn't

They also said U-110 in Guild and a skin just slightly delayed, or no 10GB download next patch

[versed elk]

how do i clear with a full combo, wipe all enemy?

[eternal basalt]

All battles S rank

[versed elk]

so i dont need to wipe all enemy?

[eternal basalt]

That too

[inland shoal]

Uhh I'm actually not sure, but from the way I remember them I think they'd get depleted in parallel yeah

[versed elk]

tired

[inland shoal]

A or B is fine too actually

[crimson glacier]

B fine? 🙂 i challenge you to beat a map with only B ranks

[inland shoal]

Those emergency repairs are gonna be expensive

[crimson glacier]

arent those limited to a day

[inland shoal]

I thought you could buy with gems after

[crimson glacier]

yeah arent those limited to like 3 or something

[inland shoal]

Oh I have no idea I never tried

[crimson glacier]

tho i guess if you do it on 2 different days since you have 24h time thats 8 repairs

[dawn whale]

I dont think anyone has tbh

[crimson glacier]

idk i just remember number 3 for some reason

[jaunty vault]

1 free and one three paid repair

dont ask me how i know

[dawn whale]

Im gonna ask

Wait what was i gonna ask

[cobalt rapids]

how u know

[jaunty vault]

if you really wanna know

[icy mountain]

LETSGO, I CAN SECURE ENOUGH CUBES FOR PITY FOR THE NEXT UR

currently at 320+ hopefully its a good UR

[jaunty vault]

my great great granduncle is azu len dev

[icy mountain]

so i can use my 4 UR bulins

[steady beacon]

So, you mean if you have, say, two shields from different sources (let's say, for the sake of argument, Jervis in front, shielded by Janus' skill 1 shield and the shield generated by the Mystic Robe aux, since this is something I've done before)... if you take x damage while those shields are up, that x damage is subtracted from the durability of both shields?

[crimson glacier]

you cant do the gem one more than once per day?

[jaunty vault]

that's what I remember

[inland shoal]

I think so
But don't trust me too much on this, it's vague memory

[steady beacon]

A command decidedly at odds with your status

[atomic abyss]

that's how i understood it

[steady beacon]

I'm just curious, because I also have vague recollections of an article (I think from CN or JP, but don't quote me) that absorption shields (as opposed to bullet/torpedo shields a la Eugen or Duca, say) take damage with chronological priority

[inland shoal]

Fine I'll look it up

[jaunty vault]

looks like i was wrong

so it's 1+3

[eternal basalt]

Remember, 3 week event and KMS

[tame orchid]

Whats the shop priority for this event btw

[jaunty vault]

should be in datamine and should be same for all events

[inland shoal]

Hmm bit hard to tell, but this is probably right

[jaunty vault]

you get the limited stuff first or atleast reserve points for those and then buy stuff accordingly to your needs
and use common sense

[inland shoal]

My memory actually wasn't wrong cuz I just remembered the shield values didn't stack, which they don't, but it looks like they reduce the damage one after the other

[jaunty vault]

[steady beacon]

Cheers for looking it up

Y'know, I went looking at the shop prio list out of curiosity but
I'm guessing the "外观装备箱(共鸣)", which the translator tells me is the gear skin box, is not supposed to be in the high priority section, surely?
Yes, I know it's WIP, but still

[cobalt rapids]

yes it shouldnt be since gearbox are alr listed in low prio

prob confused with unique aux or smth

[tame orchid]

Why does kimo tell others farm 2-1 when it gives practically nothing 💀 seems like a waste of time

Youd be better off farming WA

[frank pulsar]

idk kimo is infamous here for spouting misinfo

[tame orchid]

Oh

[crisp estuary]

[tame orchid]

Rip

[late flame]

he exists so that we can laugh at him

[tame orchid]

Makes sense ig

[inland shoal]

2-1 was always just an urgent comm thing and has been more or less abolished for quite a while already

[crisp estuary]

It's an old patched out meme strategy to generate commissions fast hoping that one of the commissions was a gem commission

[tame orchid]

Comms take like 1 hour to do so would you even make that much

[eternal basalt]

And gettin positive oil from shipdrops

[crisp estuary]

"Gem is gem"

[plain saffron]

the comms part is not patched though

[inland shoal]

Well the point is to just take comms that give cubes or gems and not care about anything else

[tame orchid]

Seems... Inefficient

[plain saffron]

they patched out the farm being "infinite"

for coins and comms

[inland shoal]

I mean yes? No? Can't rly say sth is inefficient when it's the only way

[tame orchid]

Oh right early ship retiring gave oil

[plain saffron]

back in my day

[tame orchid]

Old

[eternal basalt]

Then we got enough oil each week to feed the US of A

[plain saffron]

who's A and why they have US

[tame orchid]

Cause democracy

[crisp estuary]

🔨

[thorny surge]

Okay I know my fleet ain't that strong, but how are you supposed to deal that much dmg when you aren't even lv 100

[tame orchid]

Also just farm normally? With oil caps

[cobalt rapids]

hacks

[tame orchid]

Good ol mod apks

[plain saffron]

:hackerman:

[crisp estuary]

Skill issue

[inland shoal]

Okay and how does that give you gems?

[tame orchid]

Comms?

Well ig you can get more comms with 2-1....

[thorny surge]

Why... Tf... Is.. every... Hacker... In... Lil... Enty

[left nest]

Just want to know for the future, as i haven't claimed the 400 pity, so between shinano and new jersey, which one is of a higher priority?

[tame orchid]

Prob cause it's default selection

[cobalt rapids]

shinano

[left nest]

thx u

[worldly pewter]

when i enter an abyssal zone
there is no way to prior check on its skills and change the team accordingly ?

[south sequoia]

Nope

[plain saffron]

no bcs it's random on when you get in

[south sequoia]

and if you try to leave it it will disappear

[plain saffron]

that's why you make each fleet for different enemy types

[cobalt rapids]

wdym change team u mean fleet deploy ?

[south sequoia]

mhm and pick the best ships that can handle any armor type

[cobalt rapids]

[worldly pewter]

BB fleet sounds the most suitable

[south sequoia]

it's one of the few reasons why musashi was being booted from peoples fleets

[plain saffron]

1 BB 1 CV, if somehow your BB can't go faster than 20s, unless you manual

[worldly pewter]

i always manual when i see the 20 sec shield

also how going under 20 sec will fix it ?

u might hit the first attack but the other 2 will do 0 damage

[eternal basalt]

Just keep firing until dead

[worldly pewter]

yeah if i do that most likely i die first

[vale pendant]

So looking at Formidable Muse:
She is kinda bad against bosses, no?
All her skills seem to be geared towards “upon sinking an enemy” or similar, so she would struggle against bosses where the mobs are very very spread apart.

[steady beacon]

If you are fast enough, with RLD from tech and cats, BBs can get like... let's just say 2 and a bit of their rotations out in front of 20s shield provided you are carrying radars

[worldly pewter]

oh i see that makes a lot of sense now

[steady beacon]

Actually, that is confusingly phrased, but I'm assuming triple BB, so I mean more like... 2 and part of your 3rd BB get their rotation out...

[cobalt rapids]

yes shes more mobbing oriented but also her slow doesnt rly much when the condition is so bad
but also campaign bossing has reinformancents so it might work there for other backlines to make use of her freeze when they are staggered ( which they usually are in campaign ) right after she launched and killed something
altho all in all shes just ur avg gold cv nothing bad but not great either

[worldly pewter]

how many strongholds does the opsi spawn each month ?

[cobalt rapids]

2 on reset + 1/week

[steady beacon]

Two at the start of the month, one more every Monday (unless the start of the month is a Monday)

[eternal basalt]

Depends on mondays

[worldly pewter]

so this month has 7 strongholds

[eternal basalt]

6

[worldly pewter]

[eternal basalt]

The 1st spawned no extra

[worldly pewter]

oh

[vale pendant]

Yeah my read on it is:
Her load out can be more flexible than regular formidable (thanks to not needing the Albacore for the air strike), but she has one kinda useless skill (the “3 muse ships” skill), a slow that’s less reliable than Formidables (because it lacks the guaranteed first strike activation), and no Armored Hangar.
She’s below Formidable but not bad, just mediocre.

[south sequoia]

Formidable never really needed that albacore

[vale pendant]

The 80% chance of flooding doesn’t hurt either.

[steady beacon]

Ye, that's why I added the parenthetical bit to clarify, my bad

[night pumice]

Whats a good composition for a second fleet

[south sequoia]

It only comes in handy when you go mobbing with her, otherwise she goes regular tb's on ST fights

[cobalt rapids]

armored hangar is kinda w.e
as for her preload req u can fullfill it relatively easy by using the kicks and dress auxes which are also good, since she counts herself
but yes shes nothing special just like her og

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur dock

[steady beacon]

Incidentally, you can also sneak CVs in front of the shield (but the tech/cat requirements are pretty vast, and it usually demands combination with ships like Nagato if you don't want to completely sabotage your planes for it)... but if you are willing to manual, it's easier to just hold them back, wait for the shield to expire, and then launch
Plus manual shield workaround allows one to use one of my favourite bizarro manual strategies, the 36-second Helena

[worldly pewter]

nothing can be done to the shield that the abyssal gets when their hp gets below 30% ?

[steady beacon]

The one that turns shelling damage to 1? No. You just have to use CVs or torp memes

[worldly pewter]

[eternal basalt]

It sounds worse than it is... just keep shooting

[steady beacon]

Or, so the legend goes, if you enjoy coinflips, just keep going as Hassat says
The Abyssals are probably fine to do this for, but it does become harder when you're facing the much higher HP Arbiters

[worldly pewter]

against med armor champy or mk6 ?

[steady beacon]

Georgia Champy, plus Soyuz (iirc you have it)

[worldly pewter]

yeah georgia won't be anytime soon

[cobalt rapids]

by the time u get first georgia gun you should be able to beat all opsi alr

[steady beacon]

No need to rush/prioritise it
Some of my preferences are relics of bygone eras
Like that Algerie gun I put on Anchorage in the CV fleet setup
I'd completely forgotten that most people these days don't have those

[chilly birch]

Scrolled up a bit and read that Formi Muse seems to be average. How about Noshiro and Eugen muse?

[cobalt rapids]

same

[steady beacon]

Noshiro depends on how much you enjoy torp memes
Eugen no idea, but the Mebot numbers are fun to look at

[storm peak]

Any idea now to defeat Eugen with only 1 Vanguard?

[dusk maple]

Yes, start from top, drag down you vanguard in an arc until bottom left corner, stay there. Fire BB salvos with quick tap on auto button.

[rapid grail]

Is that for EX

[storm peak]

Which ship recommended to take the Vanguard?

[dusk maple]

Helena ofc. Plymouth or Agir also works.

[tame orchid]

Does WA give you cubes

[late flame]

nope

[gusty warren]

worrying about cats is like late late game right?

[atomic abyss]

min maxing cats yes

but you should just start trying with the free boxes early

[plain saffron]

there's only few one time stage that does

[forest palm]

wouldn't even say you, "worry about cats", you just mess with them cause there's not much else to do in the late game

[gusty warren]

I mean I have no idea whats good or whats bad for a cat tbh

[forest palm]

as far as I recommend to the new, and mid tier players is to just have 2 SSR Cats that are Lv 30 for Operation Siren Cat Nodes

[steady beacon]

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[steady beacon]

You can refer to Riceist's guide for talents to look out for, etc.
As for optimising them, as Ender said... you can leave it to a lot later, when you have enough coins to throw them away endlessly for one measly talent

[small fern]

How do you get the second floor for your dorm-

[frank pulsar]

pay 500 gem

[thorny gulch]

Expand the 1st floor to max then use gem to access 2nd floor

[tame orchid]

Expand it

[frank pulsar]

you need to fully expand first floor first if you haven't done so

[tame orchid]

Click on the dotted line things

[little flicker]

I was gonna ask that

But thx

[undone plover]

Btw fully expanding doenst mean buying all the slots. It means expanding the area with decor tokens

[steep merlin]

Do I obtain tech points by leveling up the ships too?

[dusk maple]

#media-content message

[frank pulsar]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[weary gust]

How do threat level, level advantage, and out of ammo buffs/debuffs stack? All additively?

[whole crypt]

is boss same HP and takes same damage in challenge mode?

[dusk maple]

same HP, takes way more dmg. I don't have the datamine, so can't say for sure

[whole crypt]

yeh that's what I was thinking, because I lazy moded through it with rainbows, Shinano/Hakuryuu was doing like 10-20 bars in a strike?

[frank pulsar]

check wiki damage calc section under combat page

[dusk maple]

yeah, boss also has shields that block torp bombers, torpedoes, vanguard guns except CB guns

[whole crypt]

ah well I might do high score later, already got my chips

damage calc has its own page now and it's convoluted

@weary gust https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I did think for the longest time that level advantage stacked additively with DMG dealt, or what is formally known as "DamageRatioBullet"
The ammo buff/debuff does fall under DamageRatioBullet and so does stack additively with those types of effects, but threat level and level advantage stack multiplicatively with it, and with each other

[whole crypt]

I never thought level advantage was additive with ammo pen, because you should be able to see the effects quite drastically if they were

I did have more questions about which bonus/penalty types were additive/subtractive with ammo though

[steady beacon]

Well, that part was always the easiest bit...
I want to say that level advantage was once incorrectly listed as under "DMG dealt/DamageRatioBullet" but I've also encountered like... three or four different sources for formulae so it could have been somewhere else rather than the wiki

[sweet merlin]

is any of the muse ships good?

[small fern]

how do i expand it then, it tells me to use

the expansion tickets

[atomic abyss]

no

[small fern]

and how many gems so i can hoard. i still got a few chapters

[tame orchid]

Any way for me to defeat uSP with 110 FDC unicorn retro and laffey and lv 100 hood penn and helena

[obtuse knoll]

are the auxiliaries from the event good?

[tame orchid]

Eh get the one from the shop

Its still a one time thing so why not

[tame orchid]

You buy them with decor tokens.

[inland shoal]

Tbh the wiki page is still simplifying some parts

[obtuse knoll]

I mean can they replace repair toolkit?

[south sequoia]

No, you'd rather pair them together

[sweet merlin]

most useless event gimmick i'v seen in this game. what is it even for

[steady beacon]

With a single fleet?
It doesn't feel hard, at least (max Level 100), but I might not be the most accurate judge of that bc of the ships I used to clear it

[tame orchid]

Its a 3 star condition

[tame orchid]

In some cases

[small fern]

I CANT SEEM TO GET ANY

[inland shoal]

It's mainly flavour

[tame orchid]

Do comms and cruise missions

[south sequoia]

Yummy

[small fern]

i like the rythm game inside of my game

[tame orchid]

Im already at 800 so

[small fern]

i keep running out-

[tame orchid]

Why, dont buy anything else

Until you fully expand, you will get more dorm slots with seconsd floor

[soft raft]

How
I've never ran out

[tame orchid]

He's prob buying shit from shop

[whole crypt]

stop buying furniture for a bit, you'll need to stockpile if you want to buy the expansions earlier

[steady beacon]

So you mean that wiki page could be more complicated than it already is?

[viscid swift]

Spaghetti code is Spaghetti code

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure if you've expanded the floor at all but the first expansion is better comfort/token than any furniture off the top of my head

I'm guessing the bits that don't really concern the player in any way got truncated from the damage page?

[tame orchid]

I got bodied 💀

I mean the solo boss things btw

[rapid grail]

SP stage for this event out rn? Or is there no SP stage in first place...?

[inland shoal]

Yeah but only very slightly, I believe the only thing rly missing is damage to armor enhance

[soft raft]

there is one
you just have to clear SP5 first

[small fern]

alright i wont do so

[tame orchid]

its an SP event

[inland shoal]

The SP stage is µSP

[tame orchid]

Theres uSP solo stages and EX stages too

[rapid grail]

ah gee, thanks for information

[tame orchid]

Well one EX stage

[tame orchid]

Actually wait shit i meant ISP 💀

[cobalt rapids]

ISP are one time only and dont cost oil so just full fleet em, they are like mini EX

[tame orchid]

With this fleet

[cobalt rapids]

maybe possible

if it fails just grind more lvls

if not its not the end of the world its only like a few cubes

[whole crypt]

ISPs are mini-EXs that only reward cube and a bit of coin one-time

muSP is on the next page, then EX after that

[crimson glacier]

i get why youd compare isp to EX but like, if EX is difficulty 100 then isp is like 0,2

[tame orchid]

Nvm it aint possible rn i got bodied again

[whole crypt]

if you fail it it's probably levels

none of them are mechanically difficult but they're all 125 so if you're not using at least some 110+s you're eating level penalty hard

[cobalt rapids]

yea its doable just need to bring ur fleet to 120

[whole crypt]

back to SP3 I go

[steady beacon]

That being the uh... stuff that modifies weapon armour mods right? Like Champagne's skill 2/ HE gun?

[sinful elk]

is prinz eugen muse worth buying chat

[inland shoal]

No, that doesn't rly need to be included since it just changes the armour mod, I mean changing all dmg to a certain armour

[cobalt rapids]

no mods are there its stuff that modifies damage to armor not the mods

[steady beacon]

Oh the thing we talked about a couple of days ago

[inland shoal]

For 8k? I'd wait until the end of the event as always

[cobalt rapids]

limited ships always worth buying if not get till end of event

[whole crypt]

you can buy it straight away if you sad SP3 grinder like me

[cobalt rapids]

well maybe she spooks ur builds so

[sinful elk]

idk i read her skills on wiki and she seems quite stronger than her normal version

[whole crypt]

70 pulls already done with rate up ships so I'm back to lights already

[inland shoal]

Stronger than normal Eugen she is definitely (purely as tank depends tho)

[whole crypt]

capped SP5 is 160 oil/run?

to squeeze the same efficiency out of SP5 as SP3 need to go down to 56 oil/run
damn you CN 0LBs

[storm peak]

Brrr... Training takes quite a toll 💫

How many attempt you did?

[sinful elk]

btw a new event state out that we can finish taticial classes instantly, how does that one work

[whole crypt]

there's a button in the classroom screen that instantly finishes that book

[sinful elk]

for free?

[whole crypt]

yes, for 10 times a day

I mean it costs you the book, you just get to finish it immediately

[sinful elk]

i have like 50 in depot so this is just a win

[whole crypt]

you'll probably run out of books before the thing is over

but it's not like you're penalized for it, you just don't get to use the bonus fully

[unkempt mortar]

where do i find the photo

[dusk maple]

Like 5 minutes

[whole crypt]

what photo

[unkempt mortar]

from the mission rewards

[whole crypt]

have you tried following the notification marks on the column of event icons

[unkempt mortar]

oh its just the stamp thing

[storm peak]

I mean... How many, not time...? Like 10 times?

[plain saffron]

wtf today i learned the gems shop is in weird order

[whole crypt]

pray, do tell

[storm peak]

I kinda suck :v

[dusk maple]

15 I think

[sinful elk]

oh yeah i just got saratoga from stage drop is she good

[whole crypt]

if you have enough lv120+s just throw a full fleet at it

[plain saffron]

yeah good

[sinful elk]

pairable to unicorn?

[storm peak]

No. One vanguard only triggers challenge mode.

Main Fleet, I can go full BB with AP rounds I think?

[whole crypt]

I mean challenge mode is challenge mode, so skill issue

[storm peak]

iirc CA got more damage with AP than HE

[whole crypt]

yes, CA is medium so AP better

[plain saffron]

anything can be paired with unicorn as long as it's mob fleet

[whole crypt]

so what did you find

[plain saffron]

i thought it always be in order from cheapest to more expensive, turns out the one with no 2x get move to the end
i read it assuming it doesn't move and didn't realize there's cheaper packs 😔

[whole crypt]

oh yeh it does

you'll know when you buy enough of the packs

[plain saffron]

hmm yes there's 5 dollar then 40, hmm no 20 huh. bought 40

can't relate

[whole crypt]

it's ordered all the same after you're done with the bonuses so it's fine

[plain saffron]

i guess the only way to fix the shop is to buy everything

[inland shoal]

That has to be new
Or I always bought in order of most expensive to cheapest

[plain saffron]

yeah i thought it's always in order also

buying from 3rd party is weird, suddenly akashi move and give gems to you

[whole crypt]

probably the latter

[inland shoal]

Tfw my gem packs are 33% more expensive than yours

[plain saffron]

huh TIL amount of gems and bonus are diff in JP

[inland shoal]

Price scaling is also very different

[plain saffron]

ok i should stop buying gems packs

[whole crypt]

well yen's also at an all time low now if you're comparing including exchange rates now

[plain saffron]

is there 12 badge total?

[sweet merlin]

should i farm 12-4 or sp 5

[whole crypt]

for the stamp book thing yes

[whole crypt]

event first unless you really short on coins

[knotty dome]

the wiki says 3x bonus on first clear for the event maps but i dont see a 3x on the map. is it just not shown?

[plain saffron]

also wtf all this time CM frame have wrong date on them

[torn raft]

i have done the research for fdg, anchorage and agir in that order, which ship should i research next?

[whole crypt]

that's probably copy and pasted from a EX event

SP events don't have 3x daily

[inland shoal]

That's true, but still, you get more even with exchange rates from 2 years ago
But EU is always especially shafted in things like these

[sweet merlin]

does 2x item count 2x towards event?

[whole crypt]

if you compare JPY to CNY it's literally down around 30% from game launch

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[jaunty vault]

are you talking about the old frames being rerun for new CMs

[jaunty vault]

yes it is usable for events

[plain saffron]

no new ones

[inland shoal]

You mean the do x SP5 run missions? No

[plain saffron]

new aux random between 2 songs?

[sweet merlin]

???

[atomic abyss]

probably avp

[jaunty vault]

what do they mean by research tho

[plain saffron]

changing bgm aux

[torn raft]

i don't really know how to describe this

[atomic abyss]

yeah avp next imo

[inland shoal]

Think so? Not sure how lists work there exactly

[soft raft]

you basically do all of PR4, then Plymouth, then whoever you want afterwards
And also get them to D30 or if applicable, FS5

[plain saffron]

you do until you done for the season usually

[whole crypt]

hopping across series is very inefficient print wise

[torn raft]

when will the 291/300 cap reset?

[atomic abyss]

never

[crimson glacier]

it doesnt

[atomic abyss]

it's a 1x thing

[plain saffron]

click on the i and read the description

[mellow cape]

How long does it take to complete all PRs typically?

[crimson glacier]

picking good reseaches withoyt using cubes its maybe like 3-4 months?

[mellow cape]

3-4 months for all??

[forest palm]

I feel like 4 months is a good average

[crimson glacier]

its the fastest to do when you focus all instead of 1 ship

[forest palm]

well, you end up focusing one ship as you keep going

[mellow cape]

Why does it feel like rng for me, it takes me 2-3 months alone for one PR ship

For all bps

[atomic abyss]

because that's correct

[forest palm]

poor Research choice quite honestly

[crimson glacier]

coz you focus on one ship and it kills your efficiency

[atomic abyss]

^

[crimson glacier]

and maybe you just pick awful researches idk

[atomic abyss]

you'll find that in said 2-3 months, you've prob made significant headway with everuone else

[frank pulsar]

3 months is enough to complete all the prs in a season no? youre just making bad picks prob

[whole crypt]

usually 3 months is enough to finish golds and you're just focusing down rainbows by that point

variances include how many cube researches you do, or whether you prioritize rigging higher

[frank pulsar]

you dont even need to cube to complete in 3 months

*for pr

[whole crypt]

I have a feeling it's just bad research choices when folks try to focus one ship and take all the wrong researches when the face doesn't show up

[forest palm]

gotta take Face, or G when you see it

[inland shoal]

I wasn't done with PRs after 3 months, but I hard focused DRs

[eternal basalt]

Did you miss our light rerun with x3 on SP?

[whole crypt]

this isn't a rerun is it
what was the last SP rerun we had?

[viscid swift]

Impero

[eternal basalt]

Kronk, but I was talking Virtual Tower

[whole crypt]

Kronshtadt is not an SP

[plain saffron]

iirc jp patch notes said we're supposed to get 3x?

[whole crypt]

did VT rerun have bonus?

[viscid swift]

Did they?

[whole crypt]

I didn't read the notes but I doubt

[viscid swift]

That was x5 not x3 though

[whole crypt]

so same as EX norm

[plain saffron]

can't find it so prob just my brain making shit up

[whole crypt]

you probably saw it as part of the 3x core

since JP patch notes list new -> ongoing events

[eternal basalt]

Ongoing at the bottom though, it's very unlikely to confuse them

Most confusion comes from upcoming patch notes cough Hoffen

[whole crypt]

I mean nagami probably just saw a 3x somewhere in the notes and thought it was pointing to the event poitns

[thorny laurel]

Is eugen U more of a mob fleet with the hp loss and recovery?

[whole crypt]

maybe, testing needed, but I wouldn't expect her to hold up on a hard-ish boss fight

[torn raft]

why does the skill say equipped by a dd but it can't be equipped to a dd?

[inland shoal]

Because that Equippable by is not very exact

[torn raft]

why tho

[inland shoal]

It just shows what's true for the majority of that hull type

[eternal basalt]

Use wiki for usable listings

Quite a different look

[paper mural]

Any recommended fleets for the Repulse META fight? I am currently able to do 900k damage at best and am looking for better options

All I know is UvH is a must have and that the vanguard must have the most survivability it can

[eager mulch]

some kms DDs can take cl main guns but only felix and otto get benefits from doing so

[thorny surge]

KMS DD's such as Felix, Otto , Z23 can equip that one or other CL guns

[stable badger]

any of the Tempesta any good?

[thorny surge]

Niche at best

[eternal basalt]

Wiki lists only Type 1936A-class only for that gun...

[viscid swift]

Just add Otto and Felix, job done

[viscid swift]

Yes but consistent one shots don't exist for repulse

[paper mural]

I'm currently running Musashi-UvH-Vanguard + Anchorage-Helena-Agir. Helena has Manjuu

Does JdA replace anyone here, for instance? I hear she's hard to kill, and I think she was used a fair bit back when RepM was the META Showdown boss

[whole crypt]

Repulse isn't a matter of raw damage

[atomic abyss]

it's about the shields

[paper mural]

Yeah, you want to strip her of shields ASAP by spamming airstrikes, main salvos and torps

Which is why UvH is particularly good here

[viscid swift]

Not necessarily

[paper mural]

Well, that's just one aspect. The other is actually surviving the hell that breaks loose when RepM loses shields. Her damage ramps up massively

[sharp socket]

what does akashi mean by <anchoring> im doing her questline

[steady beacon]

Probably the dock
If you're looking for the paw prints

[viscid swift]

But anyway, modern Helena less comps can get up to about 1.2 million but that's still a ways off from one shotting

[keen sable]

Is repulse the one that used anchorage middle?

[viscid swift]

I don't know about middle but something like that

[crimson glacier]

never used her in the middle

[paper mural]

I'm fine with anything that consistently goes above 50%. Currently I sometimes fail to deal even that much damage in one fight, so I'd be curious to hear one example of such comps

Helena adds even more RNG to the equation. Goes both ways

[viscid swift]

Zwei, UvH, Kearsarge or Vanguard, Agir, Plymouth, Anchorage

[night pumice]

are the only two urs in the pool rn jersey and shinano

[viscid swift]

I think it was just 457 spam on the BBs

[steady beacon]

For the moment, yes

[viscid swift]

And Anchorage had Manjuu

[paper mural]

Surprised Zwei is picked over Musashi here. I thought she was the best AP BB, and I don't see any specific advantage Zwei has in this particular fight that she wouldn't have generally

[rocky fjord]

is there CN math on shinano chan yet

[viscid swift]

Best against heavy, medium the race is a lot closer

[whole crypt]

stripping her shields too quickly will buff her damage right away and reduce your damage window

[crimson glacier]

i think you are lost

[viscid swift]

Wrong server

[polar venture]

Woops sry

[sharp socket]

what do i do with all this coins

[atomic abyss]

delete it then

[jaunty vault]

delete what

[sharp socket]

i kinda just auto’ed until i ran out of morale and now im 20k overcap on coins

[jaunty vault]

thats barely any coins lol

[thorny grove]

unrelated game picture (as in not this game)

[paper mural]

So while in an ideal world, you'd remove her shields as quickly as possible and then just survive while your backline deals the bulk of the damage, there are no front lines that can survive damage ramping up that early until time runs out?

[icy mountain]

is shinano still good asf even without haku?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[sharp socket]

i mean what do i do with my 20k overcap + another 10k chilling in my academy

[viscid swift]

Well, it's more like the vanguard buffers can't survive if you strip then too quickly

[jaunty vault]

keep em till you need em

[whole crypt]

that's not a lot, depends on what your current progression is there will be different priorities to spend

[paper mural]

True. No buffers means the backline's damage goes down

[sharp socket]

but then ill be floating coins daily

[sage sluice]

theres nothing wrong with that

[jaunty vault]

but you'll be earning more too when you farm

[sharp socket]

it feels wrong losing daily coin gain

[whole crypt]

you earn more coin grinding than collecting from merchant

[viscid swift]

In the long term what you gain from farming will far outstrip passove income from the merchant

[whole crypt]

this has been sitting for at least 2 months

[cobalt rapids]

Upgrade gear, lb ships, coin ur discounts, awaken, cats
Theres plenty of stuff to spend and unclaimed merch coins are dead coins

[paper mural]

I've had my merchant maxed out for months if not a year or longer at this point. What you should watch more closely IMO is your Oil reserves

[sharp socket]

oh yea i forgot i had PR ships chilling

which one should i coin, roon or saint louis

[paper mural]

Assuming you grind 12-4 or 13-1, Oil is more valuable than coins, because Oil will be used to net you more coins than your merchant could give

[whole crypt]

I'd say roon for KMS tech

[sharp socket]

ok

how many coins to dev30 from dev10

[whole crypt]

remind me does iris libre tech unlock anything besides brest and champagne? or does it even affect champagne?

[atomic abyss]

too many

[cobalt rapids]

The only time ur merchant should be capped is when ure preparing to sweep a banner else ure right

[atomic abyss]

if you keep at 10 per day

[sage sluice]

more than you have if you try to in one day

[whole crypt]

depends on how far into the game, but yes at this point he still has plenty to spend on

[viscid swift]

dev 0 to dev 30 is already a few million coins for a PR

[thorny grove]

are we including the discounts 🤔

[paper mural]

Banners can potentially bleed you hard. I wouldn't feel comfortable going into any event if I had 300k coins readily available or less

[viscid swift]

well not a million but still too much

[cobalt rapids]

.

[paper mural]

Hell, I aim for 500k+ just to be sure

[whole crypt]

discount means nothing if you try coin a ship within a day

[paper mural]

Problem is, it's hard to instantly switch to that mode of ignoring your merchant and still acquire that many coins in good time. You'd have to already be doing that well in advance

[cobalt rapids]

Im not at that point ig

[thorny grove]

right

[whole crypt]

when you're out of things to LB and retrofit and done with research and you grind more coins than it costs to buy/reset cats for that day

[thorny grove]

should I switch to 10 coin strengthens per day then

[sharp socket]

should i buy some stuff from my guild shop

[paper mural]

The first two imply LBing and retrofitting basically everything in your dock. Can't see any other good endpoint

Which will happen, I would say, far later than the time when you're done with research

[cobalt rapids]

90% of my coin sink is in cats and even then i cant go all out

[inland shoal]

I mean it also depends on your spendings, if you reset all your cats daily it won't happen that easily

[whole crypt]

depends on how long you've been in the game, there's much more to work on in research than the pace where retrofits are added...
LBing is a thing you kind of do alongside every new ship release

[cobalt rapids]

Ik but getting good cats doesnt happen overnight so ill recc ppl to use it and not let merch coin go to waste when possible

[sharp socket]

im now LBing cleveland for tech

[inland shoal]

While I'm way too lazy to care about cats
Well and ig you have no reason to spend anymore once you got perfect cats

[whole crypt]

yeh you're not going to reset the entire cattery in hopes of rolling flame rather than just wait until a cat with flame appears for most part

[paper mural]

The retrofit part is fair enough, actually. If you keep going after them then you will eventually have them all, and it won't be so often that you have something new to retrofit. But LBing, I can't really see ever ending at any point. I haven't done the math, but isn't the amount of new ships greater than how much one can MLB under the best of circumstances? (e.g. MLBing event token ships solely off of the token shop, spending all Merit on gold Bulins etc.)

[cobalt rapids]

Gl getting a flame lime

[inland shoal]

Obviously you only reset good cats, but I have like 3 equally good base Bishamarus and no perfect one yet so I'd reset all 3 of them

[thorny grove]

I mean it depends so I probably should not do 15 when I am getting close to running out of coins

[whole crypt]

I have a soulful lime I'm rerolling for flame, actually

[viscid swift]

no but you will get dupes inevitably so you won't ever soley be relying on bullins

[cobalt rapids]

I still dont know what ure advocating for ? Let coins go to waste and not reroll potentiall 10 pointer because she didnt start on unique ?

[paper mural]

For ships that have been added to the permanent pools, yes. And especially for those that can be bought in places such as the Guild shop or the Core shop. Problem is the ships that don't fall in any of those categories. Most of which being ships from unarchived events

[inland shoal]

I actually wouldn't reroll a cat that could end up perfect if it has no unique talent
Cuz rolling 2 uniques is just way too rare

[paper mural]

I'm focusing my Bulins on those, and I don't know if I'll ever get to a point where I can say "now all I have left to use gold Bulins on is these other ships that I can LB through these shops over time"

[viscid swift]

you will, it just takes time and being active

[cobalt rapids]

Why not

[viscid swift]

it's very much a long term goal but one that is perfectly realistic

[viscid swift]

overall just that much more coins spent overall

it might be faster but by the time you're looking to optimize cats it's min-maxing anyway with minimal benefits

[cobalt rapids]

I can understand if the argument is that its too much effort but the coins spent wouldve gone to waste either way

[versed elk]

cats are deceptively pretty useful idk if theyre minmaxing especially when coins go to waste anyway lol

[paper mural]

Maybe it's simply a thing that only becomes evident when your rate of acquiring new ships goes down. Specifically referring to reaching the point where you have all the ships that come from events and reruns. At that point, further reruns yield no more additions to your roster, since you already have every ship from said rerun, and archive as well

[inland shoal]

More coins and importantly more of my click time spent (on the most boring thing ever)

[viscid swift]

well the issue is, I'm not gonna dump a few hundred thousand at once just to go below the cap so I can make use of the passive income from the merchant

[paper mural]

So you simply have less to MLB at that point

[versed elk]

no one asked you specifically to do it

[whole crypt]

if you're consistently spending below cap and still have things to spend on then yes, "not wasting" coins by rolling your cats can be a thing

[viscid swift]

no but quite a number of players will fine themselves in the same position

staying below the soft cap for coins these days is much harder than it is staying above it if you want to get any meaningful value out of those coins

spending coins just for the sake of that makes no sense in my books

[versed elk]

clearly your books are different from his

[whole crypt]

another thing about staying below soft cap is it means you actually have to diligently set aside time to grind for coins ahead of banners

[viscid swift]

I haven't crunched the numbers or anything but I'm pretty certain that doing that is just overall a net losss still anyway

[paper mural]

As far as coins go, my personal standard is to just have as many as possible. Since SSR's don't have any kind of hard pity, there's no telling how many your next event will consume, or if there will be multiple events in a row for you that will be expensive in that regard. But preferences aside, imagine UR events. It takes 400 cubes to guarantee the UR in the worst case scenario, and 400 cubes also requires 300k coins to spend. Can those coins be achieved, by the end of said event, without staying above the soft coin cap?

[whole crypt]

you're also not earning a huge lot staying below soft cap, lv12 is like less than 8k a day still

[cobalt rapids]

And how much do u earn from oil / day

[viscid swift]

daily raids alone are like what 6k

so just a singular run of 12-4 puts you equal and anything after that and well

[paper mural]

I forgot the numbers, but one run of 13-1 yields like 2.5k coins or something IIRC. What I don't remember is how much Oil one run takes, haven't done any in a while

[cobalt rapids]

Equal means giving up half if ur income

[versed elk]

what hes trying to say is if u started below softcap rerolling cat and buying boxes can get u to stay at softcap, so u can get the passive income while still bettering your account

whether you do it or not is not his issue, its just what he thinks is right and will help his account in the long run which makes more sense to me

[cobalt rapids]

Exactly

[paper mural]

But I do remember that Oil, spent this way, converts to more coins than what the Merchant could give you. I did some extensive math a while back that is now lost to time and dead channel threads

[versed elk]

quite a few tryhards do the same thing like cutec they just cat degen all the way cuz they seek high ex scores and stuff

[inland shoal]

I'm surprised that day 1 tryhards don't have complete set of perfect cats yet

[keen sable]

Of course. What do you think people did before clearing rewards

[versed elk]

oh people do

its just that some people develop cats not just for the backline

[whole crypt]

it's a wee bit more than just that, RNG can hate you

[versed elk]

and vanguard/ex cats are more finicky than backliners ones

you need specific talents or they are just useless

[whole crypt]

yeh

for people who're really pushing those margins that's extra effort too

[inland shoal]

That doesn't sound too different from ideal main fleet cats tho
Unless you want more than 2 uniques ofc

[versed elk]

i for one am satisfied with my 95% complete cats but some people stop at nothing to get perfect

[inland shoal]

Or 2 uniques that are not in initials

[versed elk]

some guys dont even upgrade their manjuu and leave it at +0

[whole crypt]

like my only perfect cat is edelweiss even till now

even settling for a 1-talent-off-perfect cat is still pretty convoluted

assuming that talent you're dropping isn't flame

[plain saffron]

hi

[jaunty vault]

hi

[inland shoal]

[trim path]

whats the command to see good cats again

[plain saffron]

slash cats

[trim path]

ah

so i have a bishimaru with flames aggression, rookie officer - carriers 1, and aviation rookie - carriers 1. do i roll for ace pilot and its fine? or do i need that from the start

[jaunty vault]

should be fine to roll for it

[deft surge]

whats better 12% bonus damage or 100 aviation for akagi ( its 740 aviation lose 100 if i switch out for that event item)

[jaunty vault]

the aux is better than steam catapult for base akagi

[viscid swift]

I don't know where you're getting the 100 difference in AVI from but the new aux is better for Akagi than a steam catault

[deft surge]

my steam catapult is +10, (gives 100 avi)

[viscid swift]

and the aux gives 70 avi

[deft surge]

ooooh thats stonks

[polar venture]

How good is the new prinz Eugene?

[atomic abyss]

not good enough to sac gold bulins to
she has more damage than the og sure but her tankiness is worse

[polar venture]

Not any better than og huh? Missed chance

Is Kiev a bad investment?

[atomic abyss]

well she isn't the top of the top
but you could do worse

[viscid swift]

there's better that's for certain

[polar venture]

I have yukikaze and kitakaze and nubian. About all my other notable dd

[viscid swift]

meh, Kitakaze and Nubian are better than Kiev

[atomic abyss]

^

[rocky fjord]

ykk is not notable

[atomic abyss]

it'd be like, kita > nubian > kiev > ykk

[sweet delta]

kita > nubian

[jaunty vault]

yes or no pls

blocked thorin

[rocky fjord]

kita <=> nubian

[atomic abyss]

aren't we over embellishing nubian a bit

[inland shoal]

Idk I don't rly like Kita that much
But I haven't rly tried Nubian so

[sweet delta]

aren't you over embellishing kitakaze a bit

[atomic abyss]

let's see

[sweet delta]

there's no let's see unless someone wants to test 120+

[rocky fjord]

isnt kita at least the 4th lowest dmg in slaimuda T0 out of 10? idk ognevoy, and otto and felix are less

[atomic abyss]

is nubian's barrage that good lol

[rocky fjord]

in the first place, the zukis will match kita dmg against mobbing content

[sweet delta]

you didnt look at the barrage and want to claim Nubians worse?

[bright tusk]

How to grind shinano chan affinity faster? It's hard because she has a long airstrike CS. In event stage, the vanguard can clear mobs less than 20s

[sweet delta]

You don't need her in the fleet

Do you mean trust or affinity

[steady beacon]

If you mean her affinity, as opposed to trust... no real way around it...
You can only make her so fast, after all...

[sweet delta]

According to the event card, mob battles don't matter for trust

[atomic abyss]

i mean kita's are definitely worse without even looking at the numbers

[eternal moth]

The only thing that matters is the boss fight

[bright tusk]

Affinity
want to oath her immediately after she permanent

[eternal moth]

Then make her your secretary

[sweet delta]

I don't expect her to mvp

[steady beacon]

Idk, is it possible to gimp your entire fleet for her...
Maybe, but damn, the effort...

[bright tusk]

NPC can't become secretary iirc

[steady beacon]

Indeed, they cannot while they are still NPCs

[eternal moth]

oh, right

[atomic abyss]

who knew the path of the lolicon was so riddled with hurdles

[eternal moth]

I blame the EX lines

[sweet delta]

All you need is 19 sorties of 6 mob battles each to get it in 7 days without mvp

[open jackal]

is muse eugen good?

[jaunty vault]

so a total of 798 sorties

[red stirrup]

guys i finally ran out of cat storage space filling up w/ sr cats. what do i do now?

[eternal moth]

Feed the cats to other cats

[jaunty vault]

kill them

[atomic abyss]

nope

[jaunty vault]

burn their cities

[sweet delta]

Average event gold ship. Friedrich Carl was much above average

[red stirrup]

but they're all sr. how do i know which to feed to which

[atomic abyss]

yeah, stick to carl lol

[eager mulch]

feed bad cats to good cats

[atomic abyss]

fleet tech too

[jaunty vault]

read the riceist cat guide

/wiki user:riceist/cat

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[sweet delta]

Cats with more bad talents are more bad

[red stirrup]

ty

[open jackal]

got lucky (?) with her, i came back from doing something while sorting, i was planning to buy her using event currencies

but hey, free sr i guess

[sonic flame]

Is Katsuragi a permanent ship? or not yet?

[eternal moth]

She won't be until they add Shimakaze's event to WA

[open jackal]

almost got my first shipyard ship

[eternal moth]

#trophy-room

[pliant acorn]

how many hours needed to regen the morale??

[eager mulch]

depends

[keen sable]

2 to 6 currently

[eternal moth]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Morale

[rocky fjord]

20/h base, +20/h for first floor, +30/h for second floor, +10/h for onsen events

[atomic abyss]

20/h passively
40/h in 1st floor
50/h in 2nd floor
extra 10/h if oathed

[pliant acorn]

Thanks!

[cursive latch]

i just want a permanent onsen event

[sweet delta]

#game-feedback

[cursive latch]

that 70 morale/hour on 2nd floor with oath is amazing

[eager mulch]

oathing for morale regen

[rocky fjord]

do rmbr that oathed ships are less often sortied

to axe

[eager mulch]

why?

[rocky fjord]

~maxed ships in oil sorties is wasting exp
but you can ignore that ofc

[cursive latch]

exp gained with maxed ships contributes to your exp books buildup, its not wasted exp

[stoic blaze]

game seems overwhelming as a new player lol

[eager mulch]

my lv 1 oathed helena isn’t maxed

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
this might be useful then

[inland shoal]

I always oath the ships I'm leveling next

[stoic blaze]

thank you

[open jackal]

is there any priority to buy on the event shop?

[eager mulch]

in the datamine in pins

[sharp comet]

does isp cost oil

[soft raft]

no

[kind slate]

is voro and sirius worth lvl 125?

[atomic abyss]

voro no, sirius somewhat yes, since she's used for meta showdown and harbiter

[cobalt rapids]

sirius is worth but rly low prio since her buff(debuff) persists even if she dies so her survability isnt so important relative to other vanguard buffers/dmgdealers/tanks etc.

[inland shoal]

This sounds so wrong in multiple ways

[sweet delta]

Voro no, Sirius yes but low priority

[cobalt rapids]

ah i see it

[sweet delta]

I don't see how you can see what thorin heard

[cobalt rapids]

I thought it could be interpreted as in sirius applies her debuff only after she dies

[trim path]

can you get gold materials from secured corrosion 5 stages in operation siren?

[inland shoal]

Outside cats? Don't think so?

[steady beacon]

That and by chance when you smash the tuning tower if it appears

[trim path]

then just wait for reset? dont think in strong enough for strongholds yet

[inland shoal]

Strongholds are doable by relatively weak fleets, you just might have to heal a lot, you can give it a try to see how annoying it really is

[trim path]

roger

[wispy pendant]

My first stronghold clear took going back to heal almost every fight

[haughty abyss]

Hi! I have a problem with game. It doesn't start. Meybe its becouse I use Harmony OS (Gbox)? Has anyone encountered anything like this?

[eternal basalt]

#tech-support

[kind slate]

I have a question.
rn, i have all pr4 ships dev 30 (ancho/avp fs5) and i have 1 tenrai (i can get another from protocore)
i have ply dev 20 (finished catch-up) and have shimanto dev 9. I have no plygun/pr6 ur gun
what should I be researching?

[sweet delta]

Buy the second tenrai and put research focus on 5

[kind slate]

ill basically use up all my extra prints and data packs but still buy now?

[storm peak]

Thanks for the tip. It took me at least 20 attempts to clear it e.e

Got some good score as well

[sweet delta]

You should always use up all combat data packs, but what do you mean by extra prints ?

[kind slate]

like prints i got for ancho/avp/agir even tho theyre already dev 30/fs 5 while i was getting haku prints

[sullen creek]

NJ pogging

[bold salmon]

is the new towel good?

[storm peak]

If you aim for quick kill, yes.

If you aim for endurance, no.

[sweet delta]

Convert blueprints of ships who are already fs5 but not dev30 agir

[sweet delta]

Yes, first toolkit sidegrade or second toolkit upgrade

[kind slate]

aight. should i work towards ply dev 30 while getting plygun prints?

[bold salmon]

ok thanks

[kind slate]

should i also start researching some pr5 ships as well? im almost done with hinden

[storm peak]

If you need PR5 then go ahead

[kind slate]

ive heard that harbin good but i dont rlly have the ships necessary to farm exp

[open jackal]

is muse temeraire worth investing?

[trim path]

can you leave operation siren strongholds to heal at port?

[crimson glacier]

considering i didnt even know she had a muse im going to guess that she is awful

purple ships in general are usually just bad

[storm peak]

Check the skills first

[sweet delta]

all pr5 ships with blueprints will be usable earlier than pr6 ships without blueprints

[atomic abyss]

i wouldn't be surprised if le temmie muse is better than le temmie

[trim path]

ty

[atomic abyss]

but that's not exactly a high bar

[wide trench]

so is this new prinz good?

[atomic abyss]

nope

better off with carl

[wide trench]

Darn :/

[inland shoal]

Better than the old one

(Except as bossing meat shield)

[wide trench]

yeah like would it be worth building her up high to replace my normal

eugen

[atomic abyss]

normal eugen is just plain bad

[wide trench]

Yeah i just be silly though i don't need to use meta strats yet thumvs up

[atomic abyss]

if you're gonna look for a tank, you're better off using carl, or the PR tanks like anchorage and agir

[eager mulch]

Portland if you haven’t done then beginner missions yet

[wide trench]

dont think i got any of em unfortunately lemme check

[steep merlin]

How is montpelier? Just got her

[wide trench]

nah ive got loads of ships i just often play it idly for months at a time no progredsing thr combat lol

[atomic abyss]

monty is a pretty decent gold CL at least with her augment

[steep merlin]

Uh what is her augment?

[atomic abyss]

she has a unique augment

[floral oriole]

is clearing 13-3 hardmode just rerolling until you don't have to fight carrier nodes?

[wide trench]

yeah don't have any of them

[atomic abyss]

Slash Attack - Area: The ship in the frontmost position of your Vanguard performs a slash attack. Slash attack pattern, range, and DMG are based on the number of ships equipped with slash attack gear, the ships' hull type, and the equipped module's effects.

Replaces Anti-Air Mode at +10 with Anti-Air Mode - Montpelier:
Decreases this ship's DMG taken by 5% (15%). When this ship fires her AA guns: 25.0% chance to increase this ship's AA by 20% (40%), but decrease her FP by 40% (20%), for 3s; if this ship has Eagle Union gear equipped, this AA buff is doubled and the FP debuff does not apply. Every 20s: 25.0% chance to increase this ship's DMG dealt by 5% (25%) for 8s.

[viscid swift]

no, just have to build a fleet good enough to tackle it consistently

[atomic abyss]

get portland retrofit first if you haven't, then try to work on getting anchorage

[steep merlin]

How do I get it?

[floral oriole]

this gets shit on

[viscid swift]

not exactly suprising

[sweet delta]

Helena in a mob fleet

[cobalt rapids]

makes sense

[atomic abyss]

mlb her, move tap on the aug slot, and from there it's quite self explanatory

[floral oriole]

she's my 4th best AA and even with my 3 best AA in boss fleet they still die to planes

[steep merlin]

Got it

[fickle parcel]

Couldn't find in pins, but is the event minigame not working? Finished today's attempt and didn't get check mark.

[viscid swift]

I rather doubt that, and equipment matters as well

[rain vine]

did you get at least b rank?

[atomic abyss]

if helena is your 4th best AA
i have to ask how you even cleared reg w13...

[eager mulch]

if you’re just sorting by AA stat then stats can be misleading

[viscid swift]

powercreep really

[floral oriole]

ok well in the game i am actually physically playing, they die to planes so idk what to tell ya

[cobalt rapids]

what u need is a gear check and vanguard optimization, backline is fine

[fickle parcel]

S rank on 2 different songs just in case. Nothing.

[viscid swift]

manual won't help, esepcially with plane spam

start a thread, post your dock and gear

[eager mulch]

Doesn’t look like this?

[sweet delta]

[fickle parcel]

Oh it does. I thought there would be more cleft notes.

[eager mulch]

no, the dots are filled in tho

[rain vine]

the appearance is very subtle

[fickle parcel]

Tyty for clearing it up.

[eager mulch]

it’s what I do

[floral oriole]

13-3 hard

[kind slate]

after getting another tenrai, should i give it to haku for flapjack, 2x tenrai?
btw w14-2

[eager mulch]

in what context

[kind slate]

14-2

[eager mulch]

I don’t know how DB bombs work with W14 concealment but I’ve never been a fan of double DB haku

[worldly lion]

What's the best stage to farm right now in the current event?

[rain vine]

sp5

[worldly lion]

Thank you

[kind slate]

should i use it something else instead of indep?

[eager mulch]

you could give it to enty right there

[kind slate]

so swap indep and enty? im normally dying in boss fight

[viscid swift]

things still look sketchy af if I'm being honest

why is Enterprise in the mob fleet in the first place

[vale apex]

is lvl 75 highest level for sub weekly challenge

[rain vine]

95

[kind slate]

i just assumed she better than sara

[sweet delta]

Assumed wrong for mob

[cobalt rapids]

will sirius ever leave the 14-2 mob fleet

[trim path]

how much more exp do you get when ships are 120+ morale?

[crimson glacier]

20% more

[trim path]

oh, pretty big chunk then

[kind slate]

never . at least not until i get something to replace her

[kind slate]

will ply dev 20 work better? or no

[cobalt rapids]

but kawa would work even better

[kind slate]

oh. i have her. time to lvl her up then

[cobalt rapids]

i know

[sweet delta]

totally didn't recommend kawa a month ago

[kind slate]

oh shit. my bad. i was too brain dead to remember

[sweet delta]

NAME             Armor   HP         EVA  LCK  SPD  HIT    AVI  FP   TRP  AA   PRIO  id
虚无             Light   99,999     0    0    10   10013  0    20   0    0    -200  16595003       
欧根亲王(μ兵装)  Medium  1,600,000  20   99   25   120    0    300  200  500  95    16605501       
欧根亲王(μ兵装)  Medium  999,999    0    99   25   9999   0    700  500  600  95    16605502```
same as soyuz event ex, bring single vanguard ship to activate 9999, disabling quick takeoff and laffii damage cap

[inland shoal]

Wym disabling rng and laff?

[jaunty vault]

is this supposed to be readable on PC only or something

[sweet delta]

i mean a level 1 solo laffii will have a skill issue and die in one hit

or 2 hits

[rain vine]

so what exactly are the bottom two enemies?
cant read chinese

[sweet delta]

They're both eugen prince muse, first is easy mode and second is challenge mode

[kind slate]

is this fine for 14-2 boss? i replaced indep with enty

[jaunty vault]

best way to find out ia test yourself
should work imo, however

might wanna stagger your airstrikes

[kind slate]

do i replace one of the catapults on one ship with the homing beacon thing?

[jaunty vault]

got any wyverns?

or breguets

[viscid swift]

or Jeanne D' Arc

[kind slate]

i have 1 but its on mob fleet

[calm cradle]

Any of these new muses particularly good or even worth investing time in?

[wide trench]

i do got her actually. ive been given a fleet concept to work towards before stuff actually gets hard nd they saif still prinz so ig well see whatvthe stats ened up

Im like 80 percent sure i have her retrofit

[night pumice]

how useful is san diego compared to other cruisers

pulled her from the gacha, but are there better options at lower rarities

[rain vine]

aa carry for w13 with a very expensive retrofit

[viscid swift]

She's useless until you retro her which is obscenely expensive

[night pumice]

ah. well damn

[worldly pewter]

there is no reason to FC the μSP stage right ?

[night pumice]

I've been looking to try and build a second fleet cuz I can't clear the event stages with 1 fleet only without the ammo penalty

[viscid swift]

No

[rain vine]

ammo penalty usually doesnt matter
just overlevel

[viscid swift]

Well what do you have to work with

[eager mulch]

is the EX boss' 120 hit relatively high or low compared to other Exs

[viscid swift]

And what's the state of your first fleet

[night pumice]

not much tbh gimme a sec and I'll take pictures of my dock and fleets

[viscid swift]

Low, it's autoable

[eager mulch]

for most

[night pumice]

I don't have much in terms of sr/elite ships

[eager mulch]

not this one person in ectl gph

[viscid swift]

Pffft

[eager mulch]

120 hit is still high though right

[viscid swift]

Relatively but I took around 2 minutes to kill and my vanguard lived

[eager mulch]

same

[rain vine]

you dont want that many sr ships in your fleet because you wont be able to limit break all of them early on

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[night pumice]

yeah I saw that

my first fleet is pretty much the one recommended there sans enty, but levels are what's stopping me from blitzing stages with one fleet

[viscid swift]

Well most of your first fleet isn't even MLB

[night pumice]

yeah

[rain vine]

you aint making a second fleet right now

[viscid swift]

Just keep grinding levels for now

[night pumice]

which map node is best for that

[eager mulch]

grind highest stage you can do in event first

[humble gale]

Is there a reason to keep low rarity ships once they hit 120? They stay in collection and fleet tech, right?

[sweet delta]

🐢were you using CVs

[viscid swift]

BBs

[viscid swift]

Not really, I just keep them because I'm a collector

[humble gale]

ah. personally i'll start needing the dock space soon

[eager mulch]

i just used my ryuusei fleet because i cba to go for high scores

[round hare]

is formuse good comparing to the normal formi

[eager mulch]

formimuse is bad

[round hare]

how so

[eager mulch]

useless slow, wants to hurt your fleet for a preload etc

[sweet delta]

normal formi must be bad too

[eager mulch]

im in my not rainbow = bad phase, forgive me

[night pumice]

oh actually how does eugen muse compare to normal eugen (and is eugen good to begin with)

[eager mulch]

normal eugen bad for new players, eugen muse a little less bad for new players

[viscid swift]

Somehow a sidegrade to regular Eugen which yeah...

[willow crag]

is it possible to reach 10k event currency without doing event stages

[lime raptor]

What about Noshimuse any early thoughts on her? The google doc still blank on that

[viscid swift]

She's alright

[lime raptor]

eyyy better than bad

[round hare]

is there a gear that turn ships into muse?

[viscid swift]

Like none of these ships do anything remarkable over existing permanently available options

[willow crag]

WAIT MUSE SHIPS DONT GIVE TECH?! WHY

[eager mulch]

ask the devs

[viscid swift]

Unless you're that guy who min maxes opsi mobbing

[worldly pewter]

u get 750 daily x 14 is a little bit over 10k

[willow crag]

isnt there like roon muse which is very good as a tank?

[stark quiver]

Pls help w14 full auto (message to start a thread)

[willow crag]

this is assuming you do the 3x build right?

[viscid swift]

She's a small upgrade to regular roon who in turn is basically just Portland retro plus some damage

Which is to say in the grand scheme of things is not that impressive

[round hare]

which 2

[willow crag]

guess I have to do the event... Im saving cubes, I just spent 60 at the start of event

[eager mulch]

Celestial body and cosmic kicks, both in WA

[rain vine]

the bar for sp5 auto is really low anyway, you can bring literally anyone for fleet tech farming

[willow crag]

is there a link for accessing the 1080p background of the starting screen?

[calm cradle]

Reading Riceist's cat guide.. are Unique Talents only worth 1 Talent point?

[vale spindle]

yes i believe so

[willow crag]

thank you

[sweet delta]

manjuu invincibility is allowed this time

[round hare]

danke

[wispy pendant]

do efficiency tickets count as double clears for the sp5 mission?

I'm guessing no

[viscid swift]

No

[soft raft]

no

[stark quiver]

How many tries do I need to do a stage to get it to safe

[eager mulch]

depends on the stage