gameplay-help

[eager mulch]

ok but yodo line

[atomic abyss]

So wait, why do people recommend Shiman for w15 then
Just cos of the fact that she's an Isuzu with loads of damage?

[eager mulch]

good damage, good aa, good skills

[viscid swift]

she also extinguishes burns

[steady beacon]

Pretty much
Why did you think she was recommended?

[frank pulsar]

shes pretty tanky too

[late flame]

and bigger booba

[copper drift]

Does Echo of Relinquished Time work on Akagi Muse?

[eager mulch]

No

[jaunty vault]

no

[atomic abyss]

...if only it did

[copper drift]

Oof akagi is akagi

[atomic abyss]

Idk
My bren was confused enough that I thought she could asw or sth

But then I remembered
Sandy asw is ridiculous

[steady beacon]

I mean, she's a CL so she can

[eager mulch]

laffii is aswier

[inland shoal]

Kinda weird that they added an extra tag for Akagi just so the new gear wouldn't work on her alts....

[plain saffron]

it's prob intended to be akagi og only judging by the name

[steady beacon]

Did they really? 👀

[jaunty vault]

ectl?

[eager mulch]

ectl bad

[jaunty vault]

stinky place

[hot wing]

Need help on improving my fleet, Should I replace some of the current ships with one of these URs?
I recently maxed out FDG research and limit broke Musashi.

[plain saffron]

ecgc better

they know that being equipped on akagi muse would be too op

[inland shoal]

Yeah certainly intended, I'm just confused by why when all those other things always work for alts as well
Does this mean they have op Akagi META planned and the equip would make her too strong?

[eager mulch]

warspite to musashi, hood to fdg

[jaunty vault]

replace warspite with Musashi and hood with fdg

guh

[eager mulch]

get turtled

[plain saffron]

Akagi META ni kai

[plain saffron]

HuoYesYes

[frank pulsar]

hwehwe

[hot wing]

Should I change some positions?

[plain saffron]

prob nimi offtank because levels

[jaunty vault]

positions are fine

[frank pulsar]

they look fine to me, maybe bel main tank temporarily until port is closer/higher leveled but not a big diff

[inland shoal]

Just in case you LBd that Impla and Shinano with bulins rather than copies, don't partial LB with bulins, just max in one go or save for later

[steady beacon]

Out of curiosity, Nagami, from wherever you extract the data you put into the story player
When stuff like "shadow Amagi" appears, is there anything hinted at or indicated there that one cannot see in the game itself (like some kind of name difference or whatever, apart from how it's written in EN as "Amagi?")

[inland shoal]

Ig technically in the name of the sprite? But have fun deciphering that

[worldly pewter]

is this ur first month ?

[plain saffron]

you mean either the sprite is shown or not in game?

or shadow sprite vs normal sprite

holy shit i forgot it doesn't show sprites yet

non lite mode should have the sprite name displayed bcs i didn't make it show sprite yet

[steady beacon]

Oh ye, right... in your story player, the sprites don't appear, but you can see the names in the sprite's place
Ye, I kinda meant like that

Idk what you're meant to glean from just a name tbf, but as someone who spent like three days trying to figure out who was being hinted in the Unzen event prelude...

[plain saffron]

tbh i don't understand what you're asking my brain kinda slow today

[inland shoal]

Good thing is you see the sprite name so you can do it all yourself

[plain saffron]

if you mean how to detect shadow sprite, usually it have dark or shadow
or even both

[inland shoal]

He just means if there's something in code hinting at stuff/having more information than just "Akagi?", the answer is not really

[plain saffron]

shadow is shadow, dark is top part being black iirc

[sinful elk]

So i need like 6 gold bulins just for her maxing out?

[steady beacon]

Warspite? 4 for MLB, 3 for retro

[plain saffron]

ouh, some people see the name color

[sinful elk]

The grind for her stuffs gonna be insane

[forest palm]

ya that's why she's not worth retrofiting

[plain saffron]

maybe ask in #al-lore

[eager mulch]

but the asw plane tech

[sinful elk]

How is her performance when compare to other SR bbs like Hood

[forest palm]

really shit

[crimson glacier]

id rather have hood with aug

she is basically slightly worse howe

[worldly pewter]

warspite retro is very old ?

[worn isle]

Warspite is the boss-fighting ships.
Hood is mostly a mob-clearance.

[crimson glacier]

i think warspite retro is 2019

[viscid swift]

sounds right

[worn isle]

Hood has better clearance than Warspite.

[steady beacon]

Nah, the point was, as Thorin said, whether there were secrets to be gleaned from the code itself, but evidently not

[worldly pewter]

sounds like collection angle

[sinful elk]

I think new jersey clear boss better than warspite?

[icy mountain]

is portland good for boss fleets?

[forest palm]

a ship being old doesn't really matter, it's more about if the ship was actually good to begin with, or had any future proofing, and Warspite has none of that

[crimson glacier]

warspite is nothing compared to NJ lol

[icy mountain]

or roon better?

[worn isle]

Yep that’s why Warspite lost her niche and get powercreeped.

[crimson glacier]

maxed roon and portland are about the same

[icy mountain]

Oh, but do they perform better on a mob fleet or a boss fleet?

[eager mulch]

about the same

[icy mountain]

tank rather

[plain saffron]

yeah i put everything in the site already afaik

[icy mountain]

btw, i am so close to getting independence

i should probably start building her after retro right for a boss fleet?

[worn isle]

Independence is a mob fleet not boss

[sinful elk]

So is she still worth doing something like pvp

[crimson glacier]

i dont think warspite has been meta in pvp for a long time?

[steady beacon]

Do you have NJ?

[worn isle]

She is dead a long time ago, when the Italian get VV and Aquila.

[sinful elk]

Yah not lb any yet

[steep merlin]

is the only ssr that can drop in a story stage the final boss?

[steady beacon]

Then no... whenever she's MLB throw her in, but if NJ exists the resources you're putting into Warspite are going to amount to nought

[crimson glacier]

gold ships can only drop from bosses

[worn isle]

She bad in PvP still one of the best Gold CVL in the game.

[hard mesa]

yes

[icy mountain]

oh, saratoga and independence performs the same when retroed right?

[soft raft]

since when was Warspite a CVL

[steep merlin]

yeah but can they drop something different from the boss? because in 8-4 im only getting maya

[crimson glacier]

drops arent random for any stage

only stage with more than 1 SSR drop is 3-4

[steep merlin]

ah I see

[sinful elk]

I am told to not invest in nj either since a new ur is coming so this is kinda rough for me

[viscid swift]

retrofit Nelson if you need a BB

[eager mulch]

She can take asw plane, therefore cvl

[crimson glacier]

the thing is that warspite might be rainbow, but she loses to like every new ish gold BB

[icy mountain]

currently at 292 cubes, hopefully i get 400 cubes in time before the new UR drops

and i have 4 rainbow bulins ready

[worn isle]

Lol i thought he mean Independence 😂😂😂 my bad, got confused

[sinful elk]

How you can save up that much i can't get over the addiction

[steady beacon]

Are you like... interested in PvP? Or are you just retrofitting Warspite intending to use her for clearing, with PvP just a side gig
And like... what other ships do you have available

[soft raft]

Because pulling on anything perament besides your daily light pull is a waste of your cubes

[eager mulch]

at this point warspite retro is for collection purposes

[icy mountain]

i just played like a 3 weeks ago, and i only pulled in light banner every reset + some commisions RNG

[tawdry sluice]

Why are quintuple magnetic torpedoes not used over quadruple ?

[icy mountain]

and the daily and weekly rewards as well

[sinful elk]

I only have NJ not LB any and a muse gascogre almost mlb

[worn isle]

Yep that’s the way to go

[crimson glacier]

quint has a lot longer reload

[soft raft]

longer reload time and iirc damage per torp is also less

[tawdry sluice]

Oh okay, ty

[eager mulch]

if they’re the same tier, rainbow quints are about equivalent to gold quads

[sinful elk]

Guess i'll lower my addiction to gambling

[icy mountain]

also, you dont really wanna pull if you dont have atleast cubes to secure a pity

[wind hazel]

just gamble during event

[steady beacon]

Do you really have no other ships available? Or are those just the ships you are in the process of trying to MLB?

[icy mountain]

Atleast thats just my understanding

i like efficient gaming

[small fern]

I still pull

[icy mountain]

if you like to pull so much, just swipe

[small fern]

Sadly , to satiate my gambling addiction 😭

[icy mountain]

its that ez

[sinful elk]

Yeah two of those are usable rn, i got nelson and warpsite today if you count in the total bbs

[worn isle]

That’s not gambling that’s hoarding

[soft raft]

Do you not have Hood or even Pennsylvania?

[steady beacon]

If that's where you currently are in the game, then retrofitting Warspite should not even be remotely contemplated
And arguably playing PvP shouldn't even be contemplated, but that's just me

[sinful elk]

Yeah you are right

[sinful elk]

Guess im in the mid game since i got to 7-4?

[inland shoal]

Obviously you play pvp cuz even if you lose that's still steps towards a new gold bulin

[eternal basalt]

PvP is great for items, always do it as new player

[icy mountain]

WAIT, I HAVE A PLAN if i get like 4 to 5 cubes a day on average times that by 2 weeks and ill pull 3 days before the event ends i should probably be able to get atleast 100 cubes and ill be able to secure a pity atleast

[crimson glacier]

first world thats somewhat balanced around having some rainbow ships is w14

[icy mountain]

no leaks for the new UR yet right?

[crimson glacier]

w7 is just nothing

[soft raft]

nah that's still early game

[worn isle]

Mid game is W10 onward

[soft raft]

there are barely any leaks period

[eternal basalt]

Still a month

[trim path]

it's the 500 gem floor upgrade in dorms that give extra slots for morale right?

[steady beacon]

Not if you want to get and maintain a 99%+ winrate in future

[worn isle]

That’s where it get difficult spike.

[icy mountain]

oh, id have cubes to secure pity then

[soft raft]

it duplicates the 1st floor's slots yee

[worn isle]

You can clear with anything pre W-10 tbh

[viscid swift]

there are no "leaks" in this game

[sinful elk]

My god wth i spend days and nights to grind in pp sp5 and i just got in early game

[worn isle]

13+ is the endgame 😂😂😂

[round hare]

Or opsi

[crimson glacier]

most of opsi is not even close to end

[icy mountain]

[ah, only datamine] gotcha

[round hare]

Yeah, but like its similar difficulty to w13+ in hard ones ig

[soft raft]

no it is not lmao

[viscid swift]

really depends on how you define it
personally I classify
1-12 as early game
13 as mid-game
14 and 15 as late game

endgame is stuff like perfecting cats and grinding every ship to 120

[crimson glacier]

most of opsi is not even close to w14 lol

[round hare]

Key word “in hard ones”

[soft raft]

still nowhere close

[crimson glacier]

keyword most

the hard stuff in opsi is all optional

[worn isle]

How is W15 then, i’m too lazy for W15

[eternal basalt]

perfect cats

[round hare]

Is 14 onward really that difficult or just🔮

[crimson glacier]

w14 at release was hell

[soft raft]

Basically W14 and W13 had a baby

[viscid swift]

you're actively punished for not understanding the game so....

[crimson glacier]

even if you do you might just lose to random crit

[worn isle]

Damn so just bring DDs and CLs 😂😂😂😂

[soft raft]

Not exactly

[crimson glacier]

most DDs are awful in w15

[frank pulsar]

picking ship based on hull type is bad idea, you should pick ship based on what they can do

[worn isle]

Maybe Laffey 2 are god there

[crimson glacier]

yeah thats like the 1 good DD

[soft raft]

Laffe 2 is good there yes
Mainly because she's a huge exception to the average DD

[round hare]

Is it possible to w14 without any URs/DRs

[worn isle]

Laffey 2 - Shimanto - Guam

[crimson glacier]

laffey and guam were custom made for w15

[worn isle]

That sounds like a perfect vanguard gor W15, isn’t it

[frank pulsar]

easily, with the right gear

[crimson glacier]

thats why you rarely see them outside of it

[round hare]

What abt w15

[viscid swift]

that is the standard mob fleet vanguard yes

[round hare]

Since i joined not long ago, i dont have most URs not DRs/PRYs

[frank pulsar]

idk tbh, ive seen faction fleet clears (pls dont torture yourself) but never any no rainbow clears

[worn isle]

We should have PR7 soon though

It’s about that time of the year

[crimson glacier]

3 months

[frank pulsar]

just when i finally caught up with pr4+ too

[soft raft]

then W15 is extremely low on your current priorities

[round hare]

Is faction fleet even worth it (the Nagato is screaming in my dock)

[soft raft]

Outside of the shits and giggles? No

[worn isle]

Nope

[frank pulsar]

what does "pls dont torture yourself" sound like to you

[round hare]

Idk average day in my life💀

[worn isle]

Maybe IJN with duo carrier Shinano - Hakuryuu

[round hare]

Thats what im thinking

[soft raft]

eh
Shinano and Haku are strong enough to not really give a shit about Nagato's buff

[steady beacon]

If you're talking about "full" faction fleets, apart from memes or flexes no
There are often good reasons to have multiple ships of the same faction in a single fleet, such as for making skill requirements

[whole crypt]

what content is this for(tm)

[frank pulsar]

you must live a hard life, hang in there its not worth it as its much better to just mix and match good ships

[worn isle]

But they usually run a slow support carrier

[soft raft]

that's only in context of OpSi

[worn isle]

And don’t ever need Nagato..

[round hare]

True

[whole crypt]

I would 100% use AvP over Nagato in OS bosses

[round hare]

Tbh ive gotten to a stage where i cleared w12, not enough lvl for w13, cleared opsi and dont know what to do

[eternal basalt]

Get lvls

[frank pulsar]

youre at w12 thats great, now you can start working on research and grind up ships to use in opsi so that you can grind gear to push campaign more

[worn isle]

I would 100% use Implacable over AvP in OS bosses

[round hare]

My phone is constantly dying and my bluestack no work 😔

[crimson glacier]

almost like imp is just all around better ship

[frank pulsar]

try ldplayer 9
its way more stable than bs5 for me

[round hare]

Yeah im working on fleet tech for anchorage and im clueless with opsi

[whole crypt]

the assumption is no Implacable of course

if you have Implacable then yes, use her over AvP

[round hare]

Thanks for the suggestion ill try it ig

[crimson glacier]

the thing is that if avp is enough then imp obviously is too

its just not always that useful to resort to the best of the best straight away when giving advice

[round hare]

Im already have 15 ships above 120, im just trying to figure opsi myself

@eager mulch Opsi guide when smh

[frank pulsar]

theres wiki article on opsi you can read

[crimson glacier]

what in opsi even needs a guide

[eternal basalt]

Opsi is easy

[whole crypt]

dude say he's newish which is why I mentioned AvP in case no Implacable

[round hare]

I cleared like the story and it just ended and idk what to do

[whole crypt]

do everything

[worn isle]

1 HE Fleet, 1 AP Fleet, 1 Mob Fleet and 1 Carrier fleet.

[whole crypt]

1 mob fleet, 1 boss fleet, 2 whatever maybe crossfleet fleets

[eternal basalt]

Doubt he has AvP FS5 either

[paper timber]

What is this month arbi armor mod?

[worn isle]

Switch mob fleet for rocket carrier fleet for the bosses

[round hare]

other than the ships do i just clear everything over and over again

[frank pulsar]

in opsi everything has chance to drop materials so just do everything with a notification
in terms of rewards your main sources are arbiter, strongholds, abyssals and hidden zones

[whole crypt]

still an easier bar to clear than a ship you can't pull for another year or so, short of which use Ark Royal I guess?

[steady beacon]

Armour type? Light
But her summon is medium

[soft raft]

It's the Light armor one with the jellyfish

[frank pulsar]

after that its just grind c5 zone repeatedly

[round hare]

My fleet isnt stronk enough for sirens 🚨

[half plover]

how should I spend gems from now on? I got the second floor in dorm and got 4 ship slots per floor. I also got some dock space up to 192 with maxed guild bonus. what would be next to get?

[worn isle]

For budget slow just use Ark Royal or Formidable.

[round hare]

Or its just bad

[viscid swift]

more dock space

[paper timber]

Hmm, which type of fleet should I use then? EU anti light CV York2/Enty/Implac?

[eternal basalt]

Cn anni hopeful

[worn isle]

Formidable Muse may even have another timestop like the original one.

[steady beacon]

Sure, why not

[frank pulsar]

adaptability helps a lot, having multiple dedicated bossing fleets would help too

[whole crypt]

well you could ask for fleet help, C4 and 5 enforcers aren't that hard and you can reenter strongholds after repair

[worn isle]

That would be the best if you don’t have Kearsage

[paper timber]

I have Kear, max dev

[round hare]

Im just raising this fleets level, or should i make any change before dumping thousands of oil for something not worth it

[frank pulsar]

drop enty then for kear

[worn isle]

Then Kearsage - York2 - Enty, you can free up Impla for them Converging torp fleet.

[paper timber]

Hmm, gear for Kear?

[round hare]

Its for boss, gears are the best gold ones and guide recommended one

[frank pulsar]

well theyre all useful, i say keep going with the leveling

[crimson glacier]

i dont see laffey doing anything

[worn isle]

406 Mk7 if you have it

[frank pulsar]

mk7, hvar and double shell

[paper timber]

I don't use converge torp

[worn isle]

And the rocket hellcat

[round hare]

Aight thanks

[whole crypt]

is there some reason you'd replace Enty instead of Impero

[worn isle]

Other is just standard BB setup

[frank pulsar]

were talking about giangarch's uss opsi setup not rl34

[whole crypt]

oh

[worn isle]

Then use Kearsage - Yorktown - Impla

The things about this fleets is their BiS are all limited…

406 Mk7 limited, Rocket Hellcat also limited….

[paper timber]

You know me, I am lazy so I will slap on anything that work and sit back

[frank pulsar]

bf109 works fine as a substitute for hvar, and so does mk6 for mk7

[crimson glacier]

none of those limiteds are important

[worn isle]

Hard to fully itemize them

[paper timber]

And I have most of the gear and ships now

[steady beacon]

... Is there a reason you don't use converging torps?
It's not the end of the world for anti-light obviously, but if you have them, might as well use them

[frank pulsar]

surely you have a saiun kai or two

[paper timber]

I have a BB fleet for anti heavy/med, my CV should also work in anti med

[paper timber]

5, actually

[steady beacon]

Just put it on then

[sinful elk]

Chat is renown a usable bb?

[frank pulsar]

use those then
rocket > converging torp on light and med just rmb that and youre good

[steady beacon]

Well, actually, you probably run into sync issues on Implac with Saiun but uh...

[worn isle]

Meta one is yes, OG one is meh

[frank pulsar]

cope with manjuu

[sinful elk]

Can't rng god give me some usable bb like i have nothing but CVs and CVLs

[round hare]

Would you recommend retro yuudach over retro laffey1 on that fleet, same level

[worn isle]

Just send a picture of every bb you got lol

[paper timber]

You could try and get Shinano

[frank pulsar]

theres plenty of good perma bb

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[worn isle]

It can’t be that bad

[frank pulsar]

yuudachi retro is just flat out better yea

if you haven't gotten her item though its better to not start

since specialised core is scarce for newer players considering frequency of ur

[paper timber]

Hmm, can Nano/Haku/Implac power through light armor arbi?

[worn isle]

Nelson retrofit

[steady beacon]

Mhm

[plain saffron]

with rockets prob

[hard mesa]

yes

[frank pulsar]

nelson and gascogne muse are not bad picks, new jersey will be good after shes max limit break

[paper timber]

Hellcat or BF?

[worn isle]

Nope especially the CL Light Armor, she is annoying as hell

[frank pulsar]

definitely, theyre not that far behind uss duo iirc

[steady beacon]

HVARcats if you have them, but Bf109Gs to fill empty slots are fine

[frank pulsar]

hvar hellcats cuz its light

[sinful elk]

Gascogne muse is kinda not doing well as a bb in my opinion her dmg output is not much but her reload felt faster

[frank pulsar]

thats cuz you didnt max limit break her
thats like 33% missing dmg and a lot of missing dmg uptime

[worn isle]

Use Nelson and retro, she will be your best BB before NJ MLB

[soft raft]

See if you can get Hood as well

[sinful elk]

Idk how i can do that since i am focusing on retro portland then unicorn

[worn isle]

Elite is rather easy to retro though

[steady beacon]

It's because her first salvo has decreased cooldown I'm guessing

[frank pulsar]

just cope with nelson no retro for now, and keep farming the hard mode stages

[worn isle]

It won’t take you long

[hard mesa]

colorado are fine to get through campaign

[sinful elk]

It does take long,,,,,

[soft raft]

Eh I wouldnt say she's really high prio

[hard mesa]

its already 4*....

if you reallly need bb....

[sinful elk]

Gascogne muse took over her place though

[soft raft]

why do you have more than 1 fleet rn anyways?
With those lvls, you currently shouldnt be considering even a 2nd fleet

And you only really need a 3rd and 4th fleet in opsi

[worn isle]

Well Unicorn is a must Retro first..

[eager mulch]

Mine one shot no sub harbiter this month without rockets

[sinful elk]

The 2nd fleet is for dealing with mobs in main camp

[worn isle]

If you have Unicorn retro then she will just literally carry you everywhere

Mob or boss doesn’t matter this early tbh

[soft raft]

If you're not at like at least W9 yet you should be focusing all of your resources on 1 fleet, then start raising the 2nd fleet that'll focus on killing the boss

[sinful elk]

What matter is those drink my oils in just a few sorties

[soft raft]

You'll just have to deal with it, nothing you can really do about that

[worn isle]

BB drinks more oils than CV

So if you want a BB fleet then you will lose even more oils

[soft raft]

that's by like a miniscule amount
And just because CVs use less oil doesnt mean that it's a good idea to just run full CVs

[sinful elk]

Well the suicide bomb ships are problems for cv

[soft raft]

^ see this is exactly why

Full CV in campaign only really works in W12-13 mob

[sinful elk]

Since my vanguards firerate is 4 - 5 seconds per salvo so if many of them run into them my cvs die horribly

[paper timber]

I need a gear on Nano/Haku/Implac fleet that anti everything, don't need to specialized

[worn isle]

Then just run Wyvern on them all 😂😂😂

[viscid swift]

just use presets

[undone plover]

there isnt but if u cba to change then run bf109+converging torps

[urban mountain]

Should I do cube research if I’m over 400

[viscid swift]

no, 400 is only just out of poverty, get to 1k+ cubes before considering cube research on any regular basis

[soft raft]

not really unless that's the least shit research you have avaliable

[worn isle]

Well the only advice i have for you now is just keep on leveling, don’t rush. This game is not means to be rush tbh

[viscid swift]

there are definitely reasons to rush early

[eager mulch]

this fucks

[worn isle]

You mean the oil caps farming 😂😂

[eager mulch]

outdated actually all the planes are +13

and steam catas

[paper timber]

Ok

[viscid swift]

yes, it makes a world of difference in your ability to farm coins and XP

[eager mulch]

hella slow though so get cats with cv rld and get cv rld tech

but like I said, it one shot harbiter for me

[urban mountain]

I actually asked because I have no coin researches available, I'm close to 600 cubes so I may do a cube research when I have no other good ones

[viscid swift]

the occasional one is fine

[undone plover]

i would rather do q research before cube if u dont have face research/grant donation

[paper timber]

I need to take 1 of the rainbow DB from york2 to arm Haku, what should I replace it with? York2 in Kear/York2/Enty comp, enty have the skyraider

[eager mulch]

Helldiver

[whole crypt]

depends on the line up available to you, I often have to do cube to avoid using refresh too early in the day

[keen sable]

Switch gear or compromise

[eager mulch]

sometimes you get served up the quintuple cube research and you gotta take the bullet

[silk sphinx]

I used to just take a long inefficient research if everything else was cubes

[whole crypt]

I've been using Kearsarge/Yorktown II/Implacable for boss for about half a year now

[keen sable]

Q over all others is a given

[undone plover]

cube is similar to grant donation where it becomes less efficient once u max out a few ships per season right?

[paper timber]

Why not use Saiun kai?

[whole crypt]

well if you kick off with the start of a new series you might want to push rigging a bit harder to get more copies of gear, but if you're late sometimes the ship is more important

[crimson glacier]

why use saiun kai

[eager mulch]

because I’m a ryuusei believer and I’m too far invested to swap

[silk sphinx]

“Less efficient”, you’re still getting prints for the completed ships so yep

[undone plover]

well.. worthless prints but yeah

[eager mulch]

not less efficient because protocore

[undone plover]

what do u guys use excess protocore on

[whole crypt]

cubes more efficient because chips

[crimson glacier]

i dont use it

[worn isle]

Saiun Kai can mess up timing because it’s fast.

[silk sphinx]

Rushing pr is overrated, cubes are too valuable… is what I would say but at this point old players can have stacks of cubes

[whole crypt]

I haven't used my protocores since buying q152

[silk sphinx]

Nothing

[worn isle]

Protocore is pretty much useless for veterans

[silk sphinx]

The gold gear you already have, and UR gear is max 50 prints

[whole crypt]

I'm only at 6.6k protocores now... because I'm too lazy to analyze prints

[worn isle]

Mine is 105k 😂😂

[knotty dome]

akagi item is good on akagi, like over catapult and stuff?

[silk sphinx]

Yep

[knotty dome]

thanks

[paper timber]

12% dmg > 30+AVI

[undone plover]

one season catchup gives u 10.5k protocore. so u are getting ~12k protocore for free per year (when u are cought up with shipyard*)

[whole crypt]

if you have 105k you're probably getting too many ship prints

[sinful elk]

Wait i can't retire ships that have more than 1 lvl? Like common ones

[worn isle]

Oh it’s 15k

[crimson glacier]

disable the filter on top

[worn isle]

105k was the Specialized Core

That is even more useless than the Protocore

[whole crypt]

retiring doesn't have level filter off the top of my head, but auto select will skip over

[crimson glacier]

i see, havent used the manual in a long time

[sinful elk]

I.. don't see them

[whole crypt]

I have a bunch of unlocked 70s, and the occasional lv30 Hermes from event grinding

[whole crypt]

are they in a fleet somewhere

[sinful elk]

No

They are not in commision too

[whole crypt]

are you sure it's not locked then

actually all ships should show up in retire list unless locked, it'll just have fleet and activity tags

[sinful elk]

Apologize for my stupidity

[whole crypt]

sounds about right then

[haughty dust]

would you agree with the decision to now switch to this character from Marco Polo since I finally had enough tech points to start developing it?

[whole crypt]

why not finish MP first

even if you picked up all 150 catchup prints plus what you have now you wouldn't have Hakuryuu in a usable state after developing her

but you already switched anyway and there's a 24 hour cool time you can't change projects so

[undone plover]

just make sure marco polo is ready by the time u finish coining AvP

[haughty dust]

well, I just switched the development to that character. However, right now I still plan on getting the other characters in my fleet 1 and Fleet 2 up to 125 level before I switch any fleet characters or any gear out.

Plus, I’m also still working on getting FDG up to max development level and fates simulation first then I will either work on Agir or AvP

[whole crypt]

you realize you get 0 progress on Hakuryuu with those fleets right?

[viscid swift]

not to mention half those ships aren't even worth the arrays for 125

[haughty dust]

yes, I’m aware of that. However, I’m still working on getting my Sakura Empire characters leveled up first. I doubt they can do any grinding on any of the chapter 12 nodes with the fact that only one of them is at level 125.

[undone plover]

if u are pushing content use your best ships.
if u are grinding CDC for shipyard stop pushing content and farm 12-4 (or w.e u prefer) and use ships that fit the requirement (in Haku's case 3 IJN backline)

[haughty dust]

every other ship is below level 100 in my Sakura Empire.

[whole crypt]

you need main fleet IJN ships
you don't need 125 for spamming ch12

you can drag a couple 90s around in 12 with Unicorn

[viscid swift]

you know that W12 is regularly farmed with ships below lvl 100 ships on safe right

[haughty dust]

I’ve struggled in the past with that even with good gear, so that’s why I don’t plan on grinding it with lower level ships yet. I don’t have enough of them that are even anywhere near high enough yet if you check the thread, I made the other day.

[undone plover]

u can switch to 12-1 initially till they are stronger. i think it is easier

[silk sphinx]

My current 12-4 mob fleet

[viscid swift]

have you tried getting the map down to safe yet

[whole crypt]

if you've struggled it's either because the map was not safe yet or you messed something up, ch12 is mostly a no brainer with Unicorn

[haughty dust]

check the following thread that I made the other day to see the situation at least from a few days ago with my Sakura Empire ships.

[viscid swift]

My current farming fleet

[whole crypt]

I'm not digging up old threads but we all know 12 is easy enough to drag bad ships through

[stark quiver]

Are you guys just tryna farm ships to 120

[haughty dust]

There that is the updated situation.

[undone plover]

there is a few things u can do to make it easier.
get good gear
put as much crossfleet as u can in boss fleet
put 3 CV in bossfleet to meet ACV requirement
get map to safe threat
go down to 12-1 (also on safe)
add unicorn (not ideal)
add stronger ships (carries) that also need levelling

[whole crypt]

Unicorn/Shinano/Houshou/whatever vangaurd that doesn't have 0 AA, that's enough to mob 12-1 safe

[haughty dust]

in regards to the gear that’s easier said than done for me right now. In regards to the chapter 12 all of my notes are on safe already. I only have some decent gear. I don’t have a lot of good SR or rainbow gear and I only have one piece of rainbow gear so far and nothing else.

[whole crypt]

that's doable with purple corsair, helldiver and barracuda

[haughty dust]

if you really need me to, I’ll make a fresh and new new thread to show you more detailed information. I do feel like some of those ships though that are in my fleet number one and fleet number two should probably get to 125 before I keep switching things back out again since they still haven’t got there yet.

[keen sable]

Either you're going to use MP or you will never use MP. I'm in the never use MP so probably skip to save dock space

[undone plover]

that hiryuu souryuu and shinano could easily do ch12 imo

[haughty dust]

I’m saying I switched off of that character already since now I can finally do the other ones name that I cannot pronounce or spell offhand.

[viscid swift]

like I said, half the ships you're raising aren't even worth the arrays to get to 125

[whole crypt]

usefulness of MP aside his fleet priorities are wrong

[haughty dust]

do you mean in my current fleet one and fleet two?

[viscid swift]

yes

[haughty dust]

Well, I also do have a mission to do that. I need to still level a certain amount of characters up to level 125 to get the rewards so that’s the other reason.

[viscid swift]

FDG and Anchorage are the 2 that you haven't maxed already that are worth it, the rest yeah

[silk sphinx]

Tirptiz and bismarck are tech fodder

[crimson glacier]

its completely backwards to prio that mission

[whole crypt]

the missions are one time, you can claim them later after cogging actually useful ships

[silk sphinx]

The rest you already 125d or are worth it so whatever

[viscid swift]

that's not something you need to actively chase, just let it happen naturally

it took me like a year or so to actually finish it

[undone plover]

cog arrays are really scarce. i wouldnt go wasting them just for a mission that doesnt expire

[haughty dust]

yeah, well I don’t think I have very many other main iron blood ships that are decent enough yet for that line that are either high enough level or just don’t have enough of them yet. That’s why I’m still using them at the moment.

[silk sphinx]

They’re not extremely scarce, but don’t spend too many on non useful ships

[whole crypt]

they're scarce early on, especially if you spend on the wrong ships

[silk sphinx]

You can afford to 125 every single ship you use in high end content and then some

In my case I 125 every ship I use outside of tech farm and then some and still have 3k left over

[haughty dust]

can I show you guys something? Give me a moment to make a new thread, but I wanna take some pictures first. Which by the way on another note, I also just unlocked New Jersey last night.

Not sure if she’s worth it at the current moment to even worry about leveling up

[undone plover]

i think use hiryuu souryuu nano
laffey anchorage w.e.
it should clear 12 easily
put w.e crossfleet u have in boss fleet

[silk sphinx]

Bulins are the gate here

[undone plover]

hiryuu soryuu give amazing tech and u want nano raised anyway so none of that xp is wasted

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't worry about leveling NJ up now unless you have the spare UR bulins, there's a new UR coming in about a month as well

[silk sphinx]

Can you afford to mlb her? Even if you I wouldn’t invest

[stark quiver]

Is there a list of best tech ships for iron blood

[viscid swift]

ok....

[crimson glacier]

we already know you have her, why post that

[haughty dust]

w.e crossfleet? wdym?

[worldly pewter]

sam guide tech

[haughty dust]

nano?

[whole crypt]

doesn't look like he has spare cross fleet ships, so not a good reccomendation there

[undone plover]

shinano

[stark quiver]

Cross fleet are UR gacha ships, but barrage cross fleet ships

[haughty dust]

Didn’t say I was going to I was just asking.

[undone plover]

well he didnt post his entire dock so idk

[whole crypt]

Shinano's crossfleet is laughable, just use her directly and level her up

[silk sphinx]

Yeah I understood that, was just giving my opinion

[haughty dust]

was not sure what the emoji reaction meant.

[thorny surge]

Did they confirm the next CN anniversary event will bring a new UR ?

[haughty dust]

I’m gonna make a thread about that in just a moment

[crimson glacier]

there is never a reason to post a pic of a ship like that

[whole crypt]

they didn't but I'd be danged if CN anniversary doesn't bring us a new UR

[crimson glacier]

like everyone knows the ships by name alone

[whole crypt]

we've already started the "normal" UR schedule with Soyuz

[silk sphinx]

#gameplay-help message what this is based on

It’s been highly structured so I’d be very surprised if they suddenly broke the trend

[thorny surge]

Hopefully they'll make a Sardegna UR ... Would be nice

[viscid swift]

who knows

[whole crypt]

they'll probably announce if they're changing the schedule

they probably just didn't mention it anymore because we've had that regular schedule for 2 years

[haughty dust]

Current Dock

[inland shoal]

They've always been rather tight-lipped on their schedule tbh, just the 2 times confirmation how many URs there'd be iirc

[mellow cape]

Just finished op si

Thank you for y'all's help

[thorny surge]

Arbiter Hard ?

[worldly pewter]

most likely he meant the story

i still can't do harbi

[worn isle]

Doubt so, i think they will be the next DR though

[thorny surge]

Same here 🪸

[thorny surge]

Fr..

[woeful forge]

arbiter hard is a lot more doable than you think tbh, if you take into account that you can swap gear sets between fleets between fights
still probably need at least a couple pieces of +13 gear though

[keen sable]

#off-topic

[soft raft]

#al-general for speculation

[undone plover]

u can also raise a sub fleet. it helps with harbiter a lot since u can call them in x4 times

[frank pulsar]

dont even need +13, max adapts with decent ships and good gear setup is enough

arbiter is really not that strong

[worldly pewter]

i can swap gear 24/7 i don't mind but the fact that i need 4 fleets and no healing in between is kinda massive

[frank pulsar]

eventually youll only need 1 or 2 fleets

[worldly pewter]

1 fleet ?

[thorny surge]

While my first fleet does 20-30% dmg
2nd does 15-20%
3rd 10-15
4th - 10-15% dmg.. to harbiter

[whole crypt]

I had to 2-fleet this month's Temperance because I refuse to restart the fight to change to a HE gun

[silk sphinx]

I used champy too, wasn’t paying attention. 2 fleeted it still

[frank pulsar]

https://youtu.be/xdO2qxD0J_Y?feature=shared
suchiguma has a vid where he one shotted it

[viscid swift]

it's not difficult, just a bit pointless

[whole crypt]

most of the harbs can be bruteforced with 1 fleet nowadays

[thorny surge]

Actually there r monsters out there who can kill harbiters before half the time is even passed...

[silk sphinx]

You mean tuning

[worldly pewter]

i don't have these ships

[frank pulsar]

i still need 3 😔
not enough tech to kill with just 2

[frank pulsar]

hence why i said eventually

[silk sphinx]

Rather than tech it’s the ships and gear

[thorny surge]

Yea there's that but also players who got like almost all tech points and stuff

[undone plover]

u dont need to 1 shot. u can 4 fleet it with gold ships easily if your levels are decent and setup is correct

[whole crypt]

not all harbs are made equal, some are shit enough to be 1 or 2 rounded if the stars align

[silk sphinx]

The gap between the best ships and others is massive

[frank pulsar]

i got plenty of +13, and im good on ships, im just really behind on tech

[thorny surge]

Yea he's one of those monsters...

[steady beacon]

Eh, all are shit enough to be one-rounded

[whole crypt]

one-round != one-shot

[steady beacon]

Oh you mean one rotation

[whole crypt]

more like most of the vets here can do what stigma did, it's just whether we bother to make that much optimization

[frank pulsar]

just need to be dalao enough and fish for helena

[worldly pewter]

what are the best gear pieces for this fight ? aside from the tenrai
main fleet

[frank pulsar]

hvar and skyraider

[worldly pewter]

hvar is event locked

[whole crypt]

this what fight? I don't recall Tenrai being a thing against Temperance

[worn isle]

She is a light armor

You can use HE BB fleet against her

[frank pulsar]

bf109g is your next best option

[worn isle]

Doesn’t need to be Rocket Carrier.

[frank pulsar]

and yea tenrai isnt your bis on single target light and med, skyraider is

[worldly pewter]

i used my best bb they did 50% to the normal arbi

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure I didn't bring Skyraider because timing is shit

[steady beacon]

The Arbiter?
Full list of gear prob longer than reasonable to fit here
Tenrai in your free DB slots are fine though

[eager mulch]

what did people use before Skyraider days on db slots

[crimson glacier]

tenrai

[silk sphinx]

People don’t use Helena much these days

[crimson glacier]

and i still use tenrai

[whole crypt]

probably Suisei or something

[silk sphinx]

Or at least, in opsi harby

[whole crypt]

depends on what timing you were going for

[frank pulsar]

one strike without a helena is possible?

[silk sphinx]

Depends on the harby

[inland shoal]

I doubt that depending on who you mean by "people"

[frank pulsar]

thats insane

[silk sphinx]

Well specifically endgame players

[steady beacon]

To clarify, is "one strike" one rotation or one fleet?
If the former Idk, but one fleet? Absolutely
You don't even need subs

[crimson glacier]

but do they even count as "people"

[silk sphinx]

I haven’t used her in a pretty long while, and I think cheeky stopped too, not sure about others but her popularity has waned

[frank pulsar]

just one strike not 3 or 4 strike

literally 23s kill like what suchiguma did (which was what i was refering to)

[whole crypt]

I vaguely remember seeing one, either 1 or 2-round, can't remember which harb and whether Helena was involved

[steady beacon]

Without Helena, it's a good question
At the very least, I don't remember seeing any myself

[whole crypt]

what I fought this month's harb with and ended up 2-shotting because I couldn't be arsed to pull soyuz gun off Kearsarge

[frank pulsar]

truly a realm i will never reach

[woeful forge]

if you don't have event stuff you're honestly just better off running mostly converging torps even against light
the non-event options for fighters and db are not particularly good

[whole crypt]

wtf BFG exists

[frank pulsar]

bf109g is straight up better than converging torp on light and med

[steady beacon]

Nothing wrong with the Bf109G or Tenrai (in DB-locked slots)

[woeful forge]

yeah but if he's new or just came back he's not going to have tenrai

[whole crypt]

screw tenrai, BFG exists

[frank pulsar]

rockets make a bigger difference than tenrai

[inland shoal]

Surely my dmg is just worse cuz I'm still missing 2 avi tech

[whole crypt]

or even just use a BB comp

[silk sphinx]

Also those are oathed

[worldly pewter]

man this discussion is making me want to try this harbi

[whole crypt]

main fleet yes
vangaurd I think I only oathed Laffey of those 3

[grand solar]

I know its late, but no tnie isn't my first time doing this.

[silk sphinx]

So many URs…

[steady beacon]

Honestly, if you have at least some ships and equipment, don't hesitate to just try
Even if you can't kill, with four fleets even, just grab whatever rewards you can

[whole crypt]

I only oath main fleet for meta because timing, vanguard is usually only if waifu

[worldly pewter]

no i just wanted to know which shops u were talking about
since the first month doesn't have it compacted

[silk sphinx]

I do oath all my UR bbs and kear save warspite

Haven’t gotten to the cvs yet though

[grand solar]

I want the shop which this month is Petersburg

[silk sphinx]

I haven’t yet broken 50$ so I wouldn’t say whale…

[forest palm]

that's barely a dolphin

[hard mesa]

[inland shoal]

Ew a meta spender

[thorny surge]

Starboii

[forest palm]

look if you're a meta spender you're beyond a whale, you're a leviathan more often than not

[stark quiver]

some mf named takagi probably takes the cake

[worldly pewter]

i will post my most used ships in my thread and ping u ok ?

[hollow birch]

italian, french and russian ships

[whole crypt]

it doesn't take that much whaling to oath URs

[fervent hearth]

Whale mind set

[frank pulsar]

whaling for stats
just whale for skins and be happy instead

[steady beacon]

Sure mate, go for it

[viscid swift]

some PR ships require tech from those factions and good ships are still good ships at the end of the day

[inland shoal]

Wasn't there a pin or sth with OpSi fleet gearing recommendations before? I feel like I should be able to one fleet harbi at least

[silk sphinx]

If you only buy double gem packs and go double oath ring packs

[hollow birch]

do they give tech?

[silk sphinx]

You can get oath rings pretty cheaply

[viscid swift]

yes, of course they do

[inland shoal]

But why would I waste them on ugly URs

[hollow birch]

but like only those perma stats, they dont contribute to the main 4 factions

[vale spindle]

Nope the closest thing you have is my fleetbuilding guide

[frank pulsar]

just make like a fleet thats fully optimised and itll probably work...? only way to find out is try

[whole crypt]

I buy skins too, but I guess not that many? AL isn't even my main spender so

[silk sphinx]

I believe in you thorin

[steady beacon]

Just copy stig's fleet and do it in one rotation

[viscid swift]

no, but they give tech for their own factions

[mellow cape]

Whaling in this game is like... Just for dorm, dock, depot, and meowofficers slots.. cubes are just not worth man

[sullen creek]

One airstrike tempy kills do be funny

[inland shoal]

Do I look like I like working out timings?

[whole crypt]

no one's saying buy cubes
why the heck would you buy cat and depot slots

[keen sable]

Ok? Main faction ships also stop contributing after awhile

[hollow birch]

but like what are their factions for when they are in the fleet tech except for unlocking PRs

[viscid swift]

nothing at the moment

[frank pulsar]

surely you do since you can math

[hollow birch]

is something planned for it ?

[viscid swift]

who knows

[hollow birch]

also are these worth buying

[whole crypt]

no

[hollow birch]

ok

[soft raft]

very low priority

[whole crypt]

by low you mean no priority

[hollow birch]

because i cleared the other stuff and i feel like this comes next, or do I just stack purple chips

[whole crypt]

you get more than enough from drops, there's not a lot of blue and purple to craft and they cost way less than gold

unspent tokens get converted to vouchers, so you can buy more stuff from exchange next month

[hollow birch]

sooo which one should i do, convert to vouchers ot buy those T2 and T1 boxes

[rapid moth]

Let them convert to vouchers

[hollow birch]

ok

or perhaps..

are these of any priority?

[whole crypt]

only if you're trying to raise a bunch of METAs and don't have enough

[hollow birch]

i see then ig i wait 6 days now

[whole crypt]

like it's fine to have tokens left, you want to get stuff from exchange shop after each reset so you need vouchers

only gold+ lab materials, gold plates and coord items really have any priority

and AP, assuming you're clearing out your AP

[hollow birch]

how many of the normal and purple chips do i need to buy out the voucher shop

[whole crypt]

somewhere in the 10ks, but you can skip things like coins and adapts

[fervent hearth]

You are the priority

[hollow birch]

sure, thanks

[hollow birch]

but like how many vouchers do i need to buy out the shop

[silk sphinx]

You don’t buy out the shop

[hollow birch]

is it not doable?

let me show u what i bough last cycle, u will fall off ur chair

[viscid swift]

it is, just pointless

[hollow birch]

check this out

[stark quiver]

I’m about to get a seizure from looking at that

[silk sphinx]

Go check yourself for epilepsy

[silk sphinx]

But yeah it’s not recommended to buy tuning

[ashen horizon]

So like my cv can store up to 2 airstrike but does bb have any equipment could help it store extra?

[viscid swift]

no

[hollow birch]

lol, i just dont need the books and i get overload of coordinates anyway

[silk sphinx]

The coordinates should also be a priority

[silk sphinx]

13 060

[whole crypt]

somehow you bought all of the unimportant stuff and none of the important ones

[viscid swift]

you sould be clearing out all of your hidden nodes and abyssals each month anyway, not to mention we literally have a rapid skills training event tomorrow

[hollow birch]

i got enough books so im good on that, i dont remember ever getting them lol

[silk sphinx]

Do you people still use the academy? I leave it empty these days

[whole crypt]

if you're not clearing up your coords you're losing out on your OS loot

[inland shoal]

Of course, how else am I gonna get all my ships to sl10?

[viscid swift]

meh, still got skills to level and books to burn so

[stark quiver]

I use it for new ships

[whole crypt]

books are somewhat secondary I guess, but still more useful than most other things in the exchange shop

[hollow birch]

i just use it on ships i consider playing or are strong maybe

[strange tinsel]

been slacking on w14/15, is there anything to improve on with this fleet? musashi dying on 14-4 boss

[viscid swift]

gear issue

[strange tinsel]

ig not enough dmg but, yea u rite

[whole crypt]

I guess you can skip books if you don't level everything
but coords, please clear up your coords

[hollow birch]

okay

btw do lvl 10 skills give u anything? similar to tech lvl

[inland shoal]

No

[viscid swift]

other than the obvious no

[hollow birch]

so i assume you level them so u can get them to 120

[silk sphinx]

Not really

[whole crypt]

you can level them to 120 without leveling the skills

[eager mulch]

I don’t level ship skills anymore

[silk sphinx]

Just completionism and because we can afford it

But some like me and turtle dont do it

[viscid swift]

I do it to help ease the grind a bit

[whole crypt]

I have a list of 120 ships that haven't maxed skills but put on the back burner over ships I'm leveling first

[eager mulch]

I like it hard

[viscid swift]

and yeah completionism

[eager mulch]

a common DD is a common DD with or without level 10 skills

[hollow birch]

fair, i dont lvl up SRs or below and ships before PR4 i guess

[whole crypt]

well I'm not asking or expecting you to level random ships, that's a nothing-better-to-do endgame thing

[hollow birch]

gotcha

[whole crypt]

I'm down to 123 ships left

[hollow birch]

do collab ships count on that number

[whole crypt]

yes

[hollow birch]

like, ships that cannot be obtained anymore

[half plover]

is this used for anything? I never saw or used it until now

[whole crypt]

and yes I level collab shit too

[whole crypt]

only on repair ships, but it's shit, as are repair ships

[silk sphinx]

our talk was about endgame players who have already maxxed all useful ships

[half plover]

sad

[silk sphinx]

so if you're skill leveling actually good ships, you should absolutely do that

[whole crypt]

it's a great item though, it's 1 purple aux plate

people shit on gold cranes a lot, but conveniently forget they're worth 1 purple plate

[half plover]

lmao

[hollow birch]

what was the name of the DD that u can get to UR with retrofit

[viscid swift]

Yuudachi

[silk sphinx]

yuudachi?

[hollow birch]

where can i get her from

[silk sphinx]

or, poi (poikai)

[whole crypt]

6-4

[viscid swift]

6-4

[hollow birch]

are there other retrofit URs beside her and warspite

[silk sphinx]

san diego

[hollow birch]

so only those 3

[whole crypt]

when I say I'm down to 123 I mean I'm left with 123 ships who're not 120+ yet, I have 100% collection
and I also miscounted it's actually 121

[hollow birch]

bro has worse addiction than drug abusers

[silk sphinx]

are you including cog capped ships?

[whole crypt]

I don't have any cog capped ships now

[jaunty vault]

same

[hollow birch]

do they do reruns of collabs?

[jaunty vault]

imagine being capped by cog chips

[whole crypt]

I expect that to change by around June

[cobalt rapids]

Yea..

[viscid swift]

they reran 2, but don't count on collabs to rerun

[whole crypt]

only 2 collabs have reran so far, but they're not the norm

[viscid swift]

renegotiating the contracts for some is uh yeah

[whole crypt]

I was actually cog capped a bit up until start of this month

[hollow birch]

then im not getting 100% lol, when i started AL and saw collab events i didnt know the ships couldnt be obtained anymore xD

[viscid swift]

collab ships don't count towards collection rate

[whole crypt]

well the percentage in your collection menu doesn't count collab ships

[half plover]

really? that's awesome to hear

[whole crypt]

you will have holes if you look at the collab section of your archive but ship collection % wise they don't count

[hollow birch]

i see, then is there a list of the ships in the banner

[viscid swift]

what banner

[hollow birch]

all permas

[silk sphinx]

perma pool probably

[viscid swift]

check the wiki

[silk sphinx]

you can check the wiki, don't know if it's up to date

[hollow birch]

cuz im at 80% collections so im curious what im missing

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Permanent_Construction

[stark quiver]

Sometime in the future, I’m gonna have to start pulling on perma pool

[silk sphinx]

check archives, filter by unobtained

[whole crypt]

why though

[hollow birch]

i thought of that but idk which ships are on event or perma banner

[whole crypt]

event ships eventually become perm anyway

[viscid swift]

wiki, either the build page of pages of each individual ship

[silk sphinx]

if the event was war archived/permaed -> perma pool
if not yet -> limited event pool

[viscid swift]

maybe I'll get around to writing a guide to 100%

[hollow birch]

is it even possible to get the 100% collection in this day and age

[silk sphinx]

what will your tips be, i wonder

[whole crypt]

why not

[viscid swift]

oh you shall just have to wait and see

[eternal basalt]

[whole crypt]

it'll take time, but all ships that count to collection will be reran/added perm at some point

[silk sphinx]

i'm around 2.5 years in, 98%. (just missing on some events i took a break on, and some permanent pool standouts

they sometimes move ships from perma pool to shops, and there stuff like wishing well

[hollow birch]

bruh u were pulling on every banner in existence XD

[stark quiver]

Missing an ungodly amount of ships

[silk sphinx]

plus azur lane being azur lane you get a lot of pulls

[silk sphinx]

i've never bought a single cube, and pulled on every banner i was active on to completion. 1.65k cubes

[whole crypt]

but they'll also drop during event pulls if they are in perm pool, why go out of your way to pull them

[silk sphinx]

azur lane is THAT generous

[eternal basalt]

Even the METAs are said to return with the dock

[viscid swift]

They are?

[whole crypt]

they didn't explicitly mention

[hollow birch]

i see, then i think i just wasnt active enough before, because i started when the anime came out and im at 78%

[whole crypt]

but the tone of it sounds like cruise META archive will be coming with META dock update

[viscid swift]

Yeah they just said is was going to happen

[stark quiver]

Oh yea forgot abt what, cuz im at like 66% completion, and i still need to buy out the core data shop

[whole crypt]

basically just pull on events, eventually you fill in the holes, then if you're down to the last few use WW

[silk sphinx]

"Muse ships don't give tech here" is also F2P, they have 100% collection

it's not that hard (if you've played for years)

[whole crypt]

cheeky is F2P?

[hollow birch]

it is, because it may not require money, but it requires a lot of consistency it seems, on top of that i feel like hes a veteran

[silk sphinx]

correct yeah

[whole crypt]

well 100% collection isn't hard with F2P so much as keeping all 100% in dock

[viscid swift]

I have

50 or so spare currently actually

[whole crypt]

well you've been around long enough, newer players just missed a few years of gems for dock space so it's hard to keep if don't pay in

[eternal basalt]

60 free dock spaces soon (tm)

[viscid swift]

closer to 30 but yeah

huh

[hollow birch]

u wish, with those useless metas, not being removable, im suffocating, theyd rather decrease the dock size XDD

[stark quiver]

I had to get gems to buy dock cuz well most of my gems went into ship repairs during campaign

[whole crypt]

there are exactly 32 METAs now what are you smoking

[stark quiver]

And shop refreshes

[silk sphinx]

manjuu has said they're planning to make them not use dock slots in a future update

[hollow birch]

yeah but i dont spend for dock space, only for skins

[whole crypt]

please read up 1 line

[inland shoal]

With his soon™️ there'll be 60

[silk sphinx]

what's the 60 from?

[inland shoal]

Also is it just me or did the rendering of ™️ change?

[whole crypt]

is hassat from 3 years in the future

tm?

[hollow birch]

yeah but at some point i will come to suffocate from other decent ships, its a matter of time

[silk sphinx]

™️

[whole crypt]

shrug

[stark quiver]

💳

[hollow birch]

cuz yeah

[whole crypt]

it's your choice if you don't buy space, game doesn't play well without enough spare

[viscid swift]

well I should note I never actually retired and then reacquired any ships during that time

[hollow birch]

i just have to retire more often, otherwise im fine for now

[inland shoal]

For now

[whole crypt]

I mean eventually there's going to be more than 190 "good ships"

do you start retiring the older, powercrept ones then?

[sharp token]

just a newbie question, what does HE and AP do in the game and how will it help me in the game knowing the difference and application?

[hollow birch]

yeah but im a bit too stingy to give gems for dock space when i can just buy a bunny skin XD

[whole crypt]

I'm not saying that's not a right way to play, just wondering how folks who refuse to buy space will handle that situation

[hollow birch]

or oath rings, which are priority to me

[eternal basalt]

We get 200 gems for mandatory updates so use them to buy dockspsce

[whole crypt]

some people save all those gems for skins

[silk sphinx]

i think esdeath does that

basically just retire a lot of ships, even good ones

[atomic abyss]

HE is high explosive - they can burn stuff and are more effective against light armour
AP is armour piercing - they can pierce thru ships and are more effective against med armour

[whole crypt]

different ammo have different modifiers on different armour types, and some other specialties
it's hard to tell you what to pick without more context

[atomic abyss]

you kinda need to know them for BBs and CAs

[silk sphinx]

keep only the ones you like

[hollow birch]

i mean if they actually make it so metas dont take dock space, +30 or so, i use up my bullins when i get them plus if need be i will just retire some bad ships, but i think this will take some time to come

[eternal basalt]

CN Anni is one month

[hollow birch]

btw apporx when is next UR

[whole crypt]

I'll just revel in the relief that I probably won't need to buy space for the next year or so

[inland shoal]

a month give or take

[eternal basalt]

one month

[whole crypt]

based on past year schedule I expect CTA to start 16 May and event 23 May

[viscid swift]

yep

[silk sphinx]

~may 23 should be the update yea

[hollow birch]

ok i think i can get 120 for 400 by then

[sharp token]

let's say i'm facing a heavy armor boss, should i use an AP gun?

[silk sphinx]

generally yes

[whole crypt]

yes, unless it's for your DDs

[hollow birch]

heavy and med with AP, no?

[whole crypt]

but there's also the issue that a shitty AP gun may not be worth using over a good HE gun

[silk sphinx]

check guns: there's something called "modifiers" in their descriptions, with different modifiers versus different armor types

[whole crypt]

like even on a heavy/medium boss I wouldn't recommend using twin 381 over Mk6

[sharp token]

those that have "/"?

[eternal basalt]

You got time, Anni UR events are 3 weeks

[cobalt rapids]

use the gun that has good numbers ammo type matters less than modifiers
theres more to guns than modifiers still but at least u can follow the guide and pick on mods

[whole crypt]

Unison was up to SP5?

[sharp token]

does the modifier change if the rarity drop? it goes down too?

[hollow birch]

will agir get sim fate soon?

[atomic abyss]

dunno, dr fate sims are random as hell

[whole crypt]

well shit if the numbers for this event are the same as Unison 3-oil farming is going to be painful

[hollow birch]

i mean haku got one, what about agir lol

[atomic abyss]

azuma got hers before fdg so

[whole crypt]

there's no fixed schedule for DR FS

[eternal basalt]

Oilcap = easy farm

[atomic abyss]

that doesn't say much

[cobalt rapids]

depends on gun

[atomic abyss]

it's not as simple as rarity

[silk sphinx]

drake got hers before fdg right?

[atomic abyss]

yeah lmao

[whole crypt]

I'm trying to see if SP3 can be equivalent to B1 cope but it's 5 fights before boss

[hollow birch]

so yostar just stalls the best DRs

[eternal basalt]

Agir got catch-up without FS5, the only DR

[silk sphinx]

dart to dartboard for your answers

[atomic abyss]

well, not that yostar makes the calls

[viscid swift]

If agir were the next one I wouldn't expect it until next January

[cobalt rapids]

[hollow birch]

i mean... enough time to get 200+ prints XD

[silk sphinx]

manjuu, yostar is the distributor

[whole crypt]

like if I had any intentions to use oilcap I wouldn't be bringing up 3-oil cope, would I

[eternal basalt]

Everybody forgets Yongshi

[atomic abyss]

they're responsible for the spaghetti code

[whole crypt]

manjuu & yongshi = dev
CN manjuu also pub
JP/EN yostar pub

[eternal basalt]

I thought CN Billibilli

[whole crypt]

ehhh yeh

it's a bit mixed there

bili is more platform than actual pub

but in any case I'd expect manjuu to be the one calling the shots on FS

[open jackal]

is there a scrap list for gear?

[inland shoal]

There's safe to scrap in /equip

[wispy pendant]

so CN anniversary is like a month from now? Time to wait.

[eternal basalt]

25 may

[inland shoal]

Didn't ask when it may be, but when it is

[patent canyon]

For agir can i grind both main and vanguard fleet exp at the same time?

[inland shoal]

No

[patent canyon]

i see thanks

[soft raft]

you have to complete CDC1 before you can start CDC2 in general

[opaque galleon]

Crit damage buff from type 1 and type 91 Shell don’t stack right? The wording from yellow shell is absent on them

[inland shoal]

Yeah they don't

[soft raft]

Type 1, Type 91, and yellow shell cant stack with eachother

[night pumice]

I'm just starting out with this game - which units should I be prioritising early on? I have unicorn from guild shop but no clue what else I have available in like chapter 1-4 that'll work well later on

[sly haven]

im looking at the ships gear, what affects the efficiency of the gear?

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[eager mulch]

it’s a set number, can be changed by skills that the ship has

[sly haven]

oh

and next to some of the gears, there are little icons, what are those?

[eager mulch]

ammo types

[night pumice]

ah thanks - I didn't know this existed

[sly haven]

ok

[night pumice]

is there somewhere I can find the droprates for ships in certain nodes?

[atomic abyss]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[jaunty vault]

nop

[night pumice]

ah. well, damn

[atomic abyss]

tldr, no droprates known

[soft raft]

And we'll most likely never know

[night pumice]

another question is it worth it to use xp data packs on stuff early on or should I be saving those for any reason

like if I have the materials and I'm just missing xp is it worth it to boost like my starter ship to mlb as early as possible or is it better for me to just use dorm and whatnot to farm xp through fights and commission

[jaunty vault]

youll probably get mixed opinions on that

at some point using exp packs to level becomes inefficient

[eager mulch]

we know drop rate

[jaunty vault]

so i think to use them to mlb should be fine

especially if youre newer

getting higher levels earlier on makes pushing campaign easier

cause levels matter a lot on this game

[inland shoal]

Wtf who dis and what did they do with cooper?
Also EN is a bit weak on the data collection side, so not much hope of finding out drop rates that way either

[sweet delta]

Right, we don't run bots here

[novel solstice]

Few people have the patience to do thousands of runs of something to get significant data. Also, they don't really matter that much -- you're going to run the map until you get the ship, and then you're going to stop; does the difference between a 1% rate and a 2% rate really matter for you deciding whether or not you're going to spend your time fishing for that wifu?

[opaque yacht]

what does +13 stuff do compared to +10

[sweet delta]

More damage or stats

+13 Weapons do 18% more than their +10 version to every enemy, with bonus 3% Siren killer in opsi possibly

Non-weapon auxes just give the extra stats they show

[opaque yacht]

oh okk

wth is this it's stopping me from +13ing my aa gun

[cobalt rapids]

its a required material can only get in opsi

[inland shoal]

It's special gold plates you get from OpSi. You need them to +13 for all gold (and lower rarity) gears

rainbow needs a rainbow version

[opaque yacht]

bruhhh i never did opsi wdid

[inland shoal]

Well now's as good a time to start as ever

[sweet delta]

I have the same problem

[opaque yacht]

is +12 fine

[sweet delta]

+12 weapons do 10% more damage than their +10 versions

[opaque yacht]

ok that's fine then

[inland shoal]

Well it's 10% rather than 18%

[cobalt rapids]

+12 is fine starting another +10 ->+12 isnt

[opaque yacht]

opsi is confusing what am i supposed to do there

[cobalt rapids]

clear the shiny icons

buy the stuff u need in shops

[opaque yacht]

wait hold on how do i change my fleet

[cobalt rapids]

port>order>fleet deploy

[jaunty vault]

to change ships, go to a port, order, fleet deployment

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1230535224140496966/worldhelp1_1.png?ex=662a71bb&is=6629203b&hm=2f8b8ba4cc43e2a04c9ac748f8df59d2c8daf4cf29f3368d9073427f380a1abb&

[cobalt rapids]

new pfp who dis

[sweet delta]

A picture is worth a thousand words

[worldly pewter]

what is the easiest way to get this gun boys ? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_203mm_(Mle_1931)#Type_3-0

[eager mulch]

gear lab

[worldly pewter]

i don't have any of the pre gear

[eager mulch]

get them from boxes

[jaunty vault]

iris gear is hard to get

[eager mulch]

for you maybe

[worldly pewter]

[jaunty vault]

fortunately we have iris gear boxes

[worldly pewter]

where are they

[jaunty vault]

medal shop, sometimes in supply and merit

[opaque yacht]

do skins ever have a discount

[worldly pewter]

i wish i didn't gamble my medals the other day

[opaque yacht]

never? not even on anniversary days or some special events?

[eager mulch]

never

[ivory linden]

Black friday

[eager mulch]

skin discount coupon for Black Friday actually

buy 3 skins, get discount on 4th one

[opaque yacht]

so basically no cuz how do you even get enough gems for 3 skins

[hollow gust]

Spend money?

[hollow gust]

If you are a f2p then you should never be buying skins in the first place

[keen sable]

Black Friday had free stuff including promise ring and discount

[eager mulch]

“free stuff” as if it isn’t locked behind buying skins

[jaunty vault]

the discount was implemented 2023 black friday so stay tuned™️ this black friday might have more or less

[eager mulch]

[keen sable]

A discount is a discount

[keen sable]

How do you even get gems for 1 skin

[eager mulch]

i think Sam bought a skin but i might be a little silly

[eternal basalt]

The last one was Nagato's rerun... then recently we got 600 gem discount when buying 4 skins or so... so

[iron nacelle]

Is there a way to make auto search use your second fleet after your first one becomes exhausted in a normal campaign level?

[opaque yacht]

600 gems is nothing when ur spending like 4000

[lament spear]

no you can only make it that one fleet clears are mobs ships and a second takes on the boss fleet @iron nacelle

[eternal basalt]

Only 4000 if you want 4 L2D skins though

[red stirrup]

any of these worth taking to 120?

[eager mulch]

all of them

[runic quarry]

Any way to beat W15?

I kinda lost the will to finish it...

[eager mulch]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

15-4 collection
0. http://renhex.github.io/alft/81 standard fleets. First fleet could do boss 1 and 3, or give it to the second fleet.

1. http://renhex.github.io/alft/59 if you're tired of seeing Musashi Guam laffii fleets...this wins with half tech/cats. Chapter 15 isn't that hard, have correct gear and ship roles covered. Second fleet needs to do boss 1 and 3.
2. https://renhex.github.io/alft/98 3 starring fleets that may or may not work on lethal depending on whether your account is actually good. Musashi fleet does all mobs and boss 1+3, and the crossfleet fleet does boss 2 only. Prioritize 2 support Large Air Formations > Boss 1 > Large Main Fleets when having ammo. Save your full ammo node to use on two Reconnaissance Fleets and Boss 3 for last.
3. Shimanto > Ply, Yorkii > Enterprise, bb aux guns can both be 155.
4. Full flapjack on support carriers is best, but skyrocket and fw190a5 are cheaper and also good. For surface fleets, flapjacks are best, followed by tigercat/pirateCorsair/seahornet. Prioritize flapjacks for surface fleets.
5. #gameplay-help message read this. These fleets should have 99%+ win rate with medium-high cats and tech. Expect your win rate to be slightly lower. If you don't have Guam/laffii, much lower.
6. #gameplay-help message on submarine timing. Early subs = dead subs
7. #gameplay-help message choose support carriers with good fighters
8. Avoid Large/Medium Main Fleets. If you're 3 starring, use Shimanto and never fight them out of ammo.

By suchiguma

[runic quarry]

Thanks

[keen sable]

Exhausted like you're of ammo and they're dying or exhausted like you used them too much and they hate you? The hate you can fix by using a boss fleet or even swapping roles between the two fleets.

[eternal moth]

[arctic aspen]

is this the fleet against marvin

I mean modney

I cant do a one shot run it seems to get to like 75%

[civic hollow]

is this good? I really wanna equip it for the larp.........

[eager mulch]

Good auxiliary for a mediocre ship

[soft raft]

only good for Akagi
As if Akagi is worth using in the first place lol

[civic hollow]

ahh it's good then? Thanks.

Wife's power expands