gameplay-help

[violet vigil]

Good ships I got now, what do you mean by roles? Roles as in opsi? Or roles as in a gimmick the fleet is supposed to play by?

[eager mulch]

role = what it’s supposed to do. Opsi or campaign? Where in campaign? Mob or boss?

[inland shoal]

Well the thing ppl do most ig is mobbing
For mobbing you usually want a healer, usually Unicorn. You don't rly use her outside mobbing tho

[whole crypt]

even mobbing will depend on what chapter you're mobbing in, whether you're XP grinding or pushing lethal chapters

[inland shoal]

I wouldn't rly qualify exp grind as much of anything, it's just put together 6 random ships amd see to it that they don't die somehow

[true spruce]

You know how in campaign, we run two fleets, you run a fleet for mob and one for boss

[untold trout]

Ok, gold bulins are taking up too much space, who gets em?

[south sequoia]

Volga, Hood, Taihou

[eager mulch]

oathed 0 lb NJ

[south sequoia]

The 2 ur bulins rotting away

[opal tartan]

Hi. is there any way to burn coin ? I'm getting stuck of coins (cant farm exp, cant do commissions)

[untold trout]

Not sure what to do with them either,

[elfin hollow]

Cat, aug, research, gear lab.

[opal tartan]

OMG, how can i forget about gearlab. TYSM

[eager mulch]

[elfin hollow]

Or the event this week.

[untold trout]

Lol, tbf I think I oathed her before I got the bulins 😅

[south sequoia]

Maybe its for the 0lb ur ship staring at you

[worldly pewter]

it looks like a faction fleet kms enthusiast

[slow fox]

Thanks for the ping. I'll repair this. This error happens when I import ehp2.xlsm into the google sheet, because it breaks global references. Teehee.

[silver lintel]

Had to run rudder on boss flagship bb to not die in 14-4

Maybe my dps isnt high enough

[frank pulsar]

imho it should be fine as long as rudder lets you consistently survive

[viscid swift]

fire extinguisher would be better than rudder

[stable turret]

Is Essex good?

[blissful hamlet]

Essex good

[eager mulch]

how good

[sweet delta]

I use both fire extinguisher and washing machine on Musashi for auto search 15-4

[agile kestrel]

Hi I'm a returning player that comes back recently, I'm pushing pve and now struggling quite a bit on 12-4, I'm using this fleet i made since i left the game, do i need better gear or upgrade what i have rn

[viscid swift]

assuming vanguard is MLB your issue is gear

quite a bit of it is unenhanced and your AA gun set up as a whole is shit

[agile kestrel]

So i need better aa gun and enhance the rest?

[viscid swift]

yes, there's other improvements to be made but those are the most agregious

[eager mulch]

struggling where in 12-4

[agile kestrel]

Boss

Mob is mostly fine

[cobalt kettle]

whats the best stage to farm with 1 star lvl 70 units for any sort of material (assuming u just have a sht ton of time)

im getting close to all PR/DR done+ finishing farming character from map

[viscid swift]

Why

[cobalt kettle]

just to hoard mats

[viscid swift]

There is no point

[cobalt kettle]

is it not cost effective oil

[viscid swift]

There's nothing worth farming in such stages, let one worth throwing that all away instead of spending it farming W12+

[cobalt kettle]

oh

[silver lintel]

Grind fleet tech

[cobalt kettle]

dont u get medals n stuff though

[viscid swift]

You get more than enough already just by farming normally

[cobalt kettle]

but dont u barely get any t1 materials (plates) from 12+

what map u do for those

[atomic abyss]

W12

[cobalt kettle]

oh

[stable turret]

I would assume she's pretty solid

[atomic abyss]

You will almost never run out of T1 parts tbh

[stable turret]

considering her name and the memes around her

[cobalt kettle]

im out

[viscid swift]

Well, give it a few years of taking Qs and not farming below W13

[atomic abyss]

You run out if you don't farm anything

[cobalt kettle]

i do farmish

[viscid swift]

Late game players running out of Grey plates is a thing

[cobalt kettle]

i have 7k+ purples, 104 white supports

and most other ones

[atomic abyss]

[blissful hamlet]

she's pretty solid for new player

[atomic abyss]

People normally run out of T3 aux plates....

[stable turret]

That's me!

[blissful hamlet]

[cobalt kettle]

how

[atomic abyss]

By upgrading stuff to +10?

[blissful hamlet]

how can that be? you enchance every single item?

[viscid swift]

Taking 1 H Qs for years

And not farming below W13 which doesn't drop Grey plates

[blissful hamlet]

who farms w13 lul

[viscid swift]

You have demand and no supply, that simple

[cobalt kettle]

i just feel like u barely get any even from 12-4s

[viscid swift]

People who have long since run out of main fleets to level

[cobalt kettle]

cause u use a lot of oil even on clearing mode

[blissful hamlet]

I do rigging analysis all the time and I still have tons of plates

[viscid swift]

Give it enough time

[stable turret]

how can you tell who's an enemy sakura empire ship?

[blissful hamlet]

[viscid swift]

It's a slow burn but a steady one

[blissful hamlet]

all campaign enemy is sakura empire

[atomic abyss]

Well, almost all

I think all besides 1-1 actually

[stable turret]

so just specific bosses

[cobalt kettle]

I also got to get ships to 120

[atomic abyss]

With the exception of Hornet and other stuff in 1-1
All other enemies and bosses

[blissful hamlet]

coggers

[stable turret]

cool

[atomic abyss]

It's only in events and opsi that you get non Sakura enemies

[viscid swift]

Like I'm not anywhere near the point of running our yet but you can see the foundations of decay

[atomic abyss]

If all else fails

Craft those boxes

Open em
Scrap em

[blissful hamlet]

that still like 10k each

[atomic abyss]

Works as emergency coin supply too

[blissful hamlet]

azur lane will die before you ran out of grey plates

[cobalt kettle]

what map u do for whites

[viscid swift]

I don't

[atomic abyss]

Again, if you're running out you're probably not farming enough

[cobalt kettle]

i dont know where mine went

[blissful hamlet]

oh well you're right I only have 6k grey plates

[viscid swift]

I only moved up to w14 in the past few months for my regular farming spots

[cobalt kettle]

im literally at 100 whites

[atomic abyss]

I mean my purple aux plates are in the 100s...

[viscid swift]

So I still had a regular income of Grey plates

Plus I farm B1 for events....

[cobalt kettle]

are u guys just working on 120 all ships

[blissful hamlet]

huh B1 is normal stages

[atomic abyss]

That is end game AL essentially
120-ing selected ships for fleet tech

[cobalt kettle]

yeah im getting close

[blissful hamlet]

real endgame is fleet power

[atomic abyss]

No that's just flex game not end game

[cobalt kettle]

i have 4 stages to farm to get ships, gotta do merit cause i barely did any, and need to get the meta ships (cause i also didnt do any)

btw will old meta ships be added to the archives

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

old META Showdown METAs yes
We currently have no clue about the cruise pass ones except that they will be returning at one point

[humble gale]

Aren't they returning in May or is that just the META docks?

[cobalt kettle]

how long does it take for a showdown meta to come back

[soft raft]

roughly a year

[cobalt kettle]

[viscid swift]

they didn't give any time line for cuise pass METAs being made permanent

[cobalt kettle]

did they put any cruise pass metas back yet

[soft raft]

We currently have no clue about the cruise pass ones except that they will be returning at one point

[cobalt kettle]

i didnt miss a single one since 2021 december

[atomic abyss]

They did announce they will

[cobalt kettle]

not sure if any before then (like release date ones) r in game

[soft raft]

and they certainly wont be in Dossier unless they decide to make up completely new fights which I find highly unlikely

[soft raft]

You missed only 1

[cobalt kettle]

oh

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Cruise_Missions#Cruise_Mission_Seasons

[cobalt kettle]

[agile kestrel]

How to gear lab cuz i never gear lab

[silver lintel]

Do opsi

[eager mulch]

play opsi > get materials > make stuff in gear lab

[stable turret]

I'm in a dilemma

[viscid swift]

well what URs do you have already

[elfin hollow]

so much wtf

[sharp token]

what should i change?

[frank pulsar]

everything except her main gun

her main gun kinda sus pick too

[viscid swift]

everything

[soft raft]

Main gun sucks (At least until it's upgraded in gear lab)
Torps are a weeee bit sus
That AA gun is kind whatever
And why are you running double Oxy torp

[keen sable]

everything

[elfin hollow]

(switch the torepdos to the golden american/british ones) if you have the quad golden german magetic use that too)

[soft raft]

British ones are only good on manual
American ones are just non-magnetic german ones and their magnetic ones are kinda low priority

[desert tapir]

you can just pick the one you like best and come back for the other latter.
take with a grain of salt but personally I would take Shinano because I use her in opsi a lot.

[stable turret]

neither of them?

[desert tapir]

What their asking is if you have any other UR

[viscid swift]

I meant as a whole, not just the two of them

[stable turret]

well yeah of course I do

Imagine missing out on getting a UR

[viscid swift]

well what are they

[stable turret]

Check it out

There's only two URs who I haven't gotten skins yet

[viscid swift]

Shinano I guess

[stable turret]

I'm waiting to get this skin for lrich

[soft raft]

Cool tho no one asked

[stable turret]

and I'm waiting to oath san diego

[soft raft]

if you're gonna blog, #al-general
All we needed to know was what your UR dock was like

[stable turret]

well if you're gonna be like that

[surreal jackal]

tbh you’re probably gonna spark the second UR by the time you get enough bullins to max the ones you already have

[true spruce]

and why have you one starred so many of them

[stable turret]

dupes

duh

[viscid swift]

you would be suprised at how often we see ships be limit broken haphazardly using bullins

[soft raft]

how were we supposed to know that before you said so tho

[stable turret]

well don't assume I did it because I used my bullins recklessly

[surreal jackal]

they didn’t want to, so they asked to be certain

[sharp token]

what auxillary should i use for noshiro?

[stable turret]

well enough arguing

[viscid swift]

usual cruiser auxes, rudder and another eva aux or a toolbox

[stable turret]

which UR is more worth sparking at this state?

[viscid swift]

^

[soft raft]

And MLB Priority rn would prob be
Guam (Since she's only 1 star away from MLB) > Soyuz > UvH > Shinano > Laffey II > Shimakaze == Kronshtadt

[keen sable]

from a UR deficit perspective you need Shinano more than NJ

[stable turret]

isn't Guam a tank?

[viscid swift]

yes, don't see how that's and issue

[stable turret]

does she do damage?

[viscid swift]

some yes

[soft raft]

Yes
She has high AA as well

[stable turret]

so she works with san diego

[soft raft]

Sure ig?
tho you wont really be using both of them in the same fleet

[viscid swift]

in some content when you need that much AA yes

[cobalt kettle]

is there an event thurs

[viscid swift]

yes

[cobalt kettle]

[hollow gust]

Guam is just use anywhere

[cobalt kettle]

which UR gear lab guns is prio

is it mainly twin 100mm?

[sweet delta]

twin 100 is lower priority than wyvern and they use the same material

Twin 457 is first priority for rainbow ordnance (and gold ordnance if you have enough for one 457)

[vale apex]

illustrious and centaur good?

[sweet delta]

Depends on your dock

[haughty dust]

just wondering if either of these ships are any good at all.

[cobalt kettle]

wat if i already got 5 wyverns

[haughty dust]

at the moment I’m going to assume the blue ship is probably not.

[hollow gust]

Both are meh

[cobalt kettle]

i just realized twin 100 just existed, just built 2 of em

[soft raft]

Dogshit and meh

[cobalt kettle]

is it mainly those 2 weapon where u use the guarantee UR ones on

[cobalt kettle]

why ur shinano and kron weak

[soft raft]

if you're referring to the UR DD gun, that's currently the only one that accepts UR main gun prints

as for using your blanks, that's on a case to case basis depending on your current needs

[vale apex]

no bulins

[cobalt kettle]

ok didnt know that

[vale apex]

@sweet delta centaur and illustrious good if these my best ships?

[sweet delta]

It appears that you have no use for illustrious and centaur until you reach chapter 15 for illustrious to be useful

[vale apex]

and centaur?

[soft raft]

Volga would have more long term useability than both of them
Illustrious only really shines in W15 support fleet

[cobalt kettle]

wat about top secret ones

r u exchanging gold to UR top secrets, or better off using gold top secrets for jacks/etc

[soft raft]

Also on a case to case basis depending on your current needs

[cobalt kettle]

[soft raft]

/gearlab here just take this

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[cobalt kettle]

if ur turbo end game, is there any specific number u want of each

[sweet delta]

There's not much use for rainbow ordnance after you have 2 457 and 1 234

[valid geode]

need help team building. who should i use?

[cobalt kettle]

who uses those guns

[sweet delta]

Almost everyone who can equip those guns can use them when the situation is right

[cobalt kettle]

[sweet delta]

457 is best BB mob gun and 234 is best CA gun for mixed or heavy armor enemies

[vale apex]

is owari event locked

[violet vigil]

Does matching gear country to ship country even matter? Or just throw the best gear on and call it good?

[cobalt kettle]

wat about spearfish

or its too expensive for a plane (like getting multiple copies of)

[wind hazel]

doesn't matter, unless the ship requires it to activate skill or something

[soft raft]

Yup
Unzen event to be specific

[sweet delta]

It's worse than wyvern in chapter 15 which is when they matter

[rotund grove]

yo is san francisco good to be tank

[cobalt kettle]

okay so saving gold ordnances it is

[sweet delta]

Musashi Unicorn someone Portland Helena Laffey,
buy Helena from guild shop and don't retrofit her yet, and someone could be Saratoga maybe

[vale apex]

when will it comeback

[sweet delta]

In like 2 years

[valid geode]

oke,. was the ur laffey good? was around that time burt got lazy

[sweet delta]

She's just the best DD in general

[sweet delta]

Check if you have SR CV in your medal shop to buy enterprise

[valid geode]

yea i have

[vale apex]

was musashi limited time ur

[valid geode]

i have like 1k medals

[sweet delta]

Musashi Unicorn enterprise Portland sakawa Laffey,
Still buy Helena from guild shop and don't retrofit her yet, you'll use her later

[valid geode]

i cant use helena now? bought her also

[vale apex]

is rodney meta good

[sweet delta]

You can use her when you start leveling up a second fleet, which is not now

[valid geode]

ohh ok2

i thought vanguard was good

[sweet delta]

3 star vanguard is trash

[valid geode]

make sense

[sweet delta]

I don't think you'll make use of her when you have soyuz, hood, and nelson already. RodneyM is good for mobbing but so are hood and nelson

[valid geode]

should i retrofit uni now though?

[sweet delta]

Unicorn and Portland are first priority for retro

[violet vigil]

Is there one of these for non-gear lab gear?

[sweet delta]

There's /coredata and /protocore for shop priorities and /equip for all equipment

[violet vigil]

I just realized, that was a bot. Head empty.

[dapper musk]

between guam and laffey2, which is better at bossing?

AA is not an issue

[sweet delta]

Depends on the fleet and boss

Laffii helps kear if you don't have yorkii

Guam is usually tankier

[dapper musk]

just doin opsi fleets rn between my mob fleet and 4th fleet

yatsens also an option with CC but i want to fit in shimanto and harbin cuz siren skill3

[sweet delta]

I recommend putting ply in the bb boss fleet

[dapper musk]

over unzen bet

[jaunty vault]

bet

[dapper musk]

guess thats it? imagine cheshires weaker than shima and harbin

wtf agir out dmgd unzen

[elfin hollow]

for main campagin or opsi?

[fiery pelican]

I need to complete Hakuryu exp missions, who should I bring?

[blissful hamlet]

amagi nagato shoukaku or taihou

or nagato shoukaku taihou

[plain saffron]

whichever you want to raise

[blissful hamlet]

whichever mlb

[plain saffron]

for fleet tech or waifu

[fiery pelican]

stated it there, I need to complete Hakuryu exp missions

[fiery pelican]

0k thx

[frank pulsar]

it doesnt matter which ships you're using if it's just for the exp grind
so just pick ships of a relevant faction that have good tech

[silver lintel]

Hiryu souryu katsuragi cos fleet tech

[cobalt rapids]

all except children and hiei got good tech
but i would do bunnies + shoukaku coz they are +2 and shoukaku is alr mlb

[blissful hamlet]

I would do whoever gold and mlb

[plain saffron]

yes i read it, my answer is to that question. anyone works, so use whoever you want to raise, doing things 2 in 1

[cobalt rapids]

gold and purple and blue and white lvl all the same

[blissful hamlet]

amagi and taihou is worth leveling for new people and I assume they're new if they ask who to use

[cobalt rapids]

i can see taihou but amagi not

[elfin hollow]

does anyone have the data on what ships i should use for opsi? (ideal fleets?)

[cobalt rapids]

no because it depends on ur docks

[elfin hollow]

like isnt it in bot command?

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding mby this

[fiery pelican]

i have no brain cells left to stress about the game lol

[elfin hollow]

ah yes this

[blissful hamlet]

just use any of the gold that already mlb

[elfin hollow]

thanks :)

[fiery pelican]

ok

[elfin hollow]

i personally use taihou on my opsi (due to her augment too and extra damage)

[fiery pelican]

just did that

[elfin hollow]

Ok I do not have a flagship bb on my battleship fleet but instead is brunhilde FDG and vanguard. but in the link the ships i have nagato amagi nelson alabama, izumo and hood(do i replace brunhilde with any of these ships?)

[fiery pelican]

damn just spent 80k in 5 minutes...

[cobalt rapids]

nelson
but u dont need a flagship listed bb from the guide, any off flag bb can flag
but nelson should be better unless on light..which is this month so actuallly keep brun

[fiery pelican]

can they handle 12-4 on lvl 70 with +6 gear...

[cobalt rapids]

no

[fiery pelican]

and no skills

I guess i'll farm opsi then

[cobalt rapids]

just lvl their gear to +10 for starters and then dorm em as needed and/or downgrade to 12-1 but i doubt 70 is enough there either when early player

[elfin hollow]

oh yea right also I need iron blood main points for AVP

Iron blood needs more german main ships ngl

[blazing shale]

IB has the most ships afaik

[fiery pelican]

IB gods

[elfin hollow]

no doesn eagle union take that title?

[blazing shale]

Pretty sure IB has an overload of tech points compared to the other 3 main factions

[elfin hollow]

yeah just watch out for higher fleets that can damage your main easily

[fiery pelican]

i'm farming opsi for now

[elfin hollow]

also if you want to grind more effectly use main camgain and copy this fleet and grind on your highest world (ww12 is the limit)

[crisp wadi]

What's the best place to farm IB main fleet ?

[elfin hollow]

chessboard war archieve

[fiery pelican]

i can just farm low threat opsi, i heard it give a lot of exp too

[elfin hollow]

but if main campagin world 12 would do best

[fiery pelican]

why?

[crisp wadi]

Nah, I mean like CDC. Coz I don't think I can bring healer

[fiery pelican]

i never done any war achieve, is it good?

[crisp wadi]

Gave a lot IB ships

[elfin hollow]

yes because you can get tech points and as well gear blue prints

[crisp wadi]

If you need IB tech point you can go Chessboard

[fiery pelican]

don't you just lb ships to get fleet tech?

[elfin hollow]

like hard mode?

[kindred dust]

having difficulty with 13-2 hard boss, im using this fleet, both cvs geared with ryuseis and tenrais, backline keeps dying

[fiery pelican]

how, farming war archieve can give you fleet tech?

[crisp wadi]

Because in chessboard there's a IB ships that can drop

[fiery pelican]

oh okay

lvl to 70 then max lb, fastest way

[elfin hollow]

world 12 will work

[crisp wadi]

Nmv, maybe I just need 12-4 for CDC. Hope my fleet can survive without healer

[fiery pelican]

exp pack

[elfin hollow]

it wont you need a healer

world 11 or 10 will work

[crisp wadi]

Don't worry my ships is strong enough

[elfin hollow]

well dont put it auto

to last longer use manuel so your ships dont get damage from torps

ay ay ay everyone uses auto here once you get bored from grinding

even me

[crisp wadi]

If you new better get new ships rather level 70 all your ships for mlb them I think

[elfin hollow]

yeah

[elfin hollow]

why is both nagato and amagi in the same fleet?

are you trying to get sakura points for a dr or pr ship?

[silver lintel]

I use guam sandy ancho

[crisp wadi]

It's ops fleet, so I think they just put anyone strong enough

[elfin hollow]

both of them are flag ships thou so your basically limiting one of true power

[crisp wadi]

Yeah but maybe they don't have anyone, so they just put anything

[elfin hollow]

ah i see

just buy some ships form guild shops or medal shop if ur lucky lmao

[kindred dust]

dont have guam raised, and i dont think acho can help with backline survivability

im using shimanto, which is already better than sandy

[crimson glacier]

sandy has way better AA than shimanto

[kindred dust]

oh

[crimson glacier]

and if it matters sandy also has way better anti sub

[kindred dust]

guess il have to mute the game when using her

[frank pulsar]

shimanto has comparable aa with her triple 150

[crimson glacier]

nothing compares to +50% to everyone

[keen sable]

sounds like a gear issue. usually they will be some wyverns in there and definitely bomb fighters

[sweet delta]

for a start, you can put bisz flag to do more damage because of ply

[kindred dust]

how do i get bis2 to sync with the cvs, and will that help?

[fiery pelican]

I just want to grind exp, already said it

For dr

I’m not new either

MLB Laffey II or Krons or Shima whoever that is forgot her name

[crimson glacier]

well you are just grinding exp so doees any of that matter

[fiery pelican]

A new question, not related to the exp grind

I just wanted to know which UR ship I should MLB from those options

[crimson glacier]

laffey has the most use out of those

[fiery pelican]

Okay

As soon as Hakuryu and Laffey is done, maybe I can complete my fleet 2/3 on OpSi sewwyy

[echo axle]

Is there a fleet comp for her? Or is it just her, Enterprise and other random ships

[plain saffron]

she's in all mob fleet

[obtuse knoll]

is unicorn better than perseus for mob fleet chapter 14?

[plain saffron]

yes

[jaunty vault]

after retrofit

[obtuse knoll]

nice

[steep merlin]

Wich ship is worth raising to 120?

Other than enterprise

[lament tree]

If I missed ulrich in January, do I have to wait another year for her?

[inland shoal]

You have to wait until wa which will take a while

[lament tree]

And bischmark?

Also what's WA

[inland shoal]

WA = war archive

[cobalt rapids]

war archive aka getting permaed

[inland shoal]

Bisko will rerun first, time period between og and rerun is usually a bit over 2 years

[lament tree]

When might bischmark rerun

[inland shoal]

Well take her og run date and add 2+ years

You can find it on wiki

[lament tree]

Oh damn, it was last year so not till middle of next year

To think I missed ulrich by like 3 months

[fervent hearth]

Any BB fleets for extreme mode?

[cobalt rapids]

heres some examples

[turbid dawn]

What is the point of this new kind-of but not actually augment for Akagi that when reading it just seems really bad as it reveals her for free and basically nullifies the extra dmg it gives her

[eternal basalt]

It resets the gage actually

[steep merlin]

Guys?

[turbid dawn]

Yeah 45s into the fight, which is useless, no?

[cobalt rapids]

its around 8% more dmg and possible concealed third strike
50 gu doesnt mean shes gonna be revealed on 1st strike

[echo axle]

Perhaps everything

[cobalt rapids]

all those ships worth 120

[inland shoal]

The yes means I'd 120 all of that

[steep merlin]

I thought the cognitive things to get a ship to 120 were rare

I see thank you all

[cobalt rapids]

not when ure new

[echo axle]

Nuh uh, farm enough and get allat

[cobalt rapids]

u have tons of one time sources + either way u need fleets of 120 to beat/push content so nothing wasted

[steep merlin]

Okay i see

[inland shoal]

They're slightly rare, but I wouldn't really worry about it, doesn't really come into effect before tech farming usually

[steep merlin]

How do I get combat data packs?

[eternal basalt]

Cruise Pass mostly

[wary hawk]

Was rondo at rainbows end rerun recently? I wanna buy the yorck skin tomorrow but im worried I wont see the unit for some time 😩

[eternal basalt]

Likely next rerun. Date: TBD

[crisp wadi]

Retrofit your unicorn

[steep merlin]

She almost there

[south sequoia]

Anything notable in patch notes aside muse?

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.jp/news-item.html?i=1361

[oak plaza]

why the hell is this "good"?

or is it not

[blissful hamlet]

The gear is not good, akagi itself is not good

[cobalt rapids]

consider it a 8% dmg boost to akagi overall

[crimson glacier]

resetting detection sounds pretty nice

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[half plover]

would nelson, volga and enty make a good boss fleet?

hood, unicorn and independence mob?

[crimson glacier]

sure

[cobalt rapids]

depends where but it sounds fine if not for anything specific

[half plover]

yeah I just plan to level these ships for campaign, getting ready for 2 fleets

portland, laffey and nubian mob, carl, helena and z23 boss fleet

[cobalt rapids]

sounds good for pr13/14

[crimson glacier]

other than z23 sounds fine i guess

[half plover]

they are already my highest ships but I just got independence haha

yeah, I just have no ship to slot in sadly. I could get a sr ship from the medal shop since I already bought all bulins, is there anything good?

[crimson glacier]

i dont think so

[cobalt rapids]

as vanguards? the only notable is sirius and shes not rly campaign oriented

but u should get her nonetheless if u have cl rotation

[half plover]

what about san diego?

[cobalt rapids]

expensive

[half plover]

if she will be in my 2 main fleets it is gonna be okay

[cobalt rapids]

i dont recc sandy coz she eats half a bulin

[half plover]

half a bulin? what do you mean

[inland shoal]

+UR

[cobalt rapids]

2k spec core retro item cost

[half plover]

for the microphone? yeah I could afford that - but now I get what you mean

[noble wyvern]

is lime and justice cat good?

[elfin hollow]

South Dakota is good ? What she use for?

[south sequoia]

@cobalt rapids There's no real damage difference between tb and db akagi muse barrage right? outside the avi buffs

[cobalt rapids]

i mean you could but it could delay ur URs mlb which isnt a rly good tradeoff
sandy shines more later anyway when u rly need her aa and lack the other shiny aa carries like guam and laffey
for w13 u can just roll it over

[frank pulsar]

do you guys 125 your support fleet cv?

[jaunty vault]

yeah

[frank pulsar]

i gotta 125 langley then

[half plover]

alr

[jaunty vault]

do you not have implac

[noble wyvern]

soo i should not switch them with ark and pepper(epic)?

[frank pulsar]

my support cv is implac illust and langley

illust and langley are only 120

[jaunty vault]

couldve gotten lusty muse

but whatever

[frank pulsar]

...i kinda wasted some core on stuff like treaty and intel report

cuz i didnt know what to get and i didnt want more oxy torp

[cobalt rapids]

the torp bombers are better on ST coz they are converging

[noble wyvern]

?

[inland shoal]

Purely depends on talents, but none of these are cats ppl usually try to go for since Justice is DD focused and I forgot about Lime

[cobalt rapids]

i recc reading the /cats guide in #bot-spam its not as simple as which cat their performance depends on talents more but ofc u want the good talents and the good skills to pair

also ignore vanguard cats stuff just focus on backline cats

[inland shoal]

And you'll usually make BB, CV and SS cats and not rly care about anything else

[cobalt rapids]

oh true SS aswell

[noble wyvern]

should i ss the talents?

[inland shoal]

No, just read the cat guide

[fiery swan]

I will make a thread

[frank pulsar]

i heard chen hai > langley for support cv is that true

[noble wyvern]

hm ok

[fiery swan]

Limit Break concerns

[cobalt rapids]

if its in /w15 its true

[frank pulsar]

i haven't read that command brb

chen hai it is then

langley safe to retire right if im not using for w15

[cobalt rapids]

nothing is safe to retire

[noble wyvern]

also should mlb volga?

[cobalt rapids]

mlb all ships u use

[inland shoal]

You can just calc it yourself quite easily:
Langley: 145 * 6 * (267 + 400 or whatever avi you gain from default 100, catas and planes)
Chen Hai: 150 * 5 * (363 + 400 or whatever)

[noble wyvern]

hm ok

[inland shoal]

Though with 400 Langley actually comes out on top

[noble wyvern]

also how to buy dock space? i dont see a button for expanding the dock space

[inland shoal]

In the shop

[crisp estuary]

[noble wyvern]

hm ok imma go check

[still pecan]

Is Mainz good? was wondering whether I should start working on her once I'm done with Brest or if i should focus on unlocking other pr ships

[inland shoal]

Mainz is pretty good, outclassed these days tho

[cobalt rapids]

if uve done fdg + pr4 then its ffa

[crisp estuary]

One would think you do the best ones you can max dev

[inland shoal]

Advantage in fighter mileage Langley has over Chen Hai: 870 * (267+100+avi) - 750 * (363+100+avi) = 319290-347250 + (870-750) * avi = -27,690 + 120 * avi = 120* (avi - 233)
So I'd think Chen Hai is only better if you're avi stat from gears is less than 233, is my thinking wrong somewhere here?

[cobalt rapids]

chen hai rld is noticeably higher

[inland shoal]

Oh rld yeah I forgot about that

Makes sense then since they're pretty close in terms of "efficiency"

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[noble wyvern]

what should i spent 450 to? (just spend 100 for dock space)

and what secret ticket do?

[hard mesa]

6 planes still better tho + langley has additional avi from bomber so their avi is close

[crisp estuary]

100? You sure you bought dock space?

[noble wyvern]

oh i meant 200 (wrong total of gems)

what should i do with 450 gems to spare?

[crisp wadi]

Dorm, or maybe just buy remaining dock space you can buy

[inland shoal]

It's still gonna be quite close pure dmg wise, the rld diff is 0.93 for Langley vs 0.81 for Chen Hai so if we modify the formula from before a bit and also generously give Langey 65 extra AVI we get uhh
375840/0.93-347250/0.81 + (870/0.93-750/0.81) * AVI ≈ -24575 + 9.56 * AVI ≈ 9.56 * (AVI - 2,571)
So you'd need almost 2.6k Avi for them to have the same dps
Though ofc as we've seen dps isn't the best metric for the support fleet, the faster reload should also help set the supports apart from the airstrikes ig

[inland shoal]

Secret ticket is just for ingame asmr

[noble wyvern]

im at 3rd slot of dorm do i buy more? (i have 500 gems but saving it for 2nd floor)

[violet vigil]

Would this be a good mob fleet?

Unicorn(Retrofit)
(Flag)Sovetskaya Belorussiya
Perseus

Minneapolis
Shimakaze
Yuudachi(Retrofit)

[novel condor]

Yuudachi not retro?

[elfin hollow]

is duca's gold gun bad or?

[novel condor]

ah nvm not bad fleet

what content you using that fleet for btw?

[violet vigil]

Campaign/opsi mob fleet. The other three anti-boss fleets I'm trying to build are giving me headaches though.

Other three as in boss fleets for campaign and some for opsi

[inland shoal]

Up to you, but it's only gonna enable you to put 2 fleets not in your farming fleet in there for some mediocre exp

[novel condor]

well for opsi its a decent fleet, for campaign depends on what world u using it for

[inland shoal]

I wouldn't say bad, but it's not great

[elfin hollow]

ohh, I wanted to use it on her since it's her own gun so I guess it's not really recommended?

[violet vigil]

Just looking for something that'd fit most situations and a few adjustments depending on the situation.

[inland shoal]

Depends on what other guns you have

[elfin hollow]

I have better guns, but I was mainly wanting to give her her own gun for the sake of it and was curious if it's like terrible or usable

[novel condor]

tbh, Shimakaze would fit better in a boss fleet rather than mob, since for mob ships you would rather want ships that does more consistent DPS

[frank pulsar]

whats that 267 and 363? also does this take into account rld

[hard mesa]

their avi stat

[violet vigil]

What would you recomend as some replacements?

[novel condor]

depends on what you have really

[inland shoal]

@frank pulsar This is factoring in reload

[violet vigil]

Almost every ship, with the exception of a few PR and UR.

[crisp wadi]

QQ, do ddg used in Boss or mob?

[frank pulsar]

i didnt scroll mb, ty

[kind slate]

Is ticonderoga good?

[novel condor]

which exceptions

[inland shoal]

Well it's at like 2/3 of the UR gun, so yeah ig it depends on how much you cope on pierce

[elfin hollow]

Well I'll just slap it on her for now and see how it goes if it's bad I'll replace it

[violet vigil]

All the II ships, Guam, Kronshtadt, Seattle, Anchorage, Marco, Rupprecht, Harbin, Chkalov, Shimanto, Felix.

[gusty olive]

Recommended gears to make in gear lab?

[inland shoal]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[novel condor]

ehhh ig you can replace Shima with Kita?

[violet vigil]

I can, but my Kita is much lower level.

[frank pulsar]

just use shima in mob

she still has barrages

theres other stronger mobbing vanguard than kita anyway, like ddg, kawa, ryza for short fights, hinden, etc

[violet vigil]

I can swap shima for a DDG. Hinden is in one of my boss fleet right now.

[inland shoal]

The most braindead replacement for Shima would be Unzen

[violet vigil]

I've come to realize, there is a lot more thought put into building fleets than I initially thought.

[steady beacon]

'tis why most people resort to copying others' homework

[south sequoia]

For earlier / mid game just a bit of surface knowledge will get you by
It just becomes a lot more complicated when it comes to challenges

[violet vigil]

In my defence, I'm trying.

[steady beacon]

But it is a fun process once you get the hang of it
Or, at least, I find it enjoyable

[south sequoia]

a luxury of being a veteran

[violet vigil]

Thing is, I've gotten about as far as surface knowledge will get me.

[steady beacon]

And I think that's great
There are some things you'll really only learn from experience... nothing will replace giving it a try, failing, and figuring out where you went wrong

[tranquil saffron]

Should I use AA on Hindenburg?

[south sequoia]

Never]

If you want to use on AA on hindenburg you might as well just be using drake

[steady beacon]

Only if you're using her at less than Dev 30 for training purposes

[tranquil saffron]

Also, is the best setup 2 of her guns?

[steady beacon]

Depends on the armour of the enemy you're facing

[frank pulsar]

double hinden gun is fine yea if youre lazy, unzen gun + drake gun is best on light though

[hard mesa]

rainbow guns best

[cobalt patio]

Can you change the ships on ur formation at op siren ?

[south sequoia]

Yep

Blue port > Order > Change formation

[steady beacon]

Yes, go to a port, then uh
Order --> Fleet Setup or something

Oh yes, specifically a blue port, or the central zone
And it's "Fleet Deployment", upon checking

[half plover]

ooh we will get a new event tomorrow? so saving oil it is

[violet vigil]

Aside from the obvious awful level, lb, and lack of equipment, how do these boss fleets look?

[cobalt rapids]

boss fleets for what

[violet vigil]

Opsi mostly, as well as a few campaign bosses.

[cobalt rapids]

very optimizeable then

well fleet 2 is fine ig

implac should be moved however to ur strongest cv pair which is nano haku to guarantee their ordnance hitting

vanguard depends on ur options but u can just follow the tank dmg dealer/support x2 formula

[violet vigil]

That's what I've been trying to do for vanguards. So I should swap Implac and Musashi?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

well thats as far as i can tell based on hotswaps but if u want more then post ur dock
or just keep in mind kazagumo sirius and aurora are some of the best opsi buffers when used correctly so if u have em consider slotting em in
and ply is also missing but mby u didnt touch s5

[violet vigil]

Yeah, Plymoth is one I'm missing.

[cobalt rapids]

oh yea and one more thing, non mlb ships arent good so throw em out
stuff like lb1 shima and non mlb hinden arent doing much

[violet vigil]

I've got plenty of mats to mlb most of them. I was just trying to figure out my new fleet before I start dumping resouces into ships that I won't ever use.

[half plover]

is it a good idea to farm D1 of chessboard for that one elite ship that is only gettable there?

I think it was admiral hipper

and once I got one d4 for z46 and all other iron blood ships?

[hard mesa]

hipper on guild

[half plover]

ooh ty

so it is only d3 for eugen and d4

[frank pulsar]

the only reason youll ever do chessboard is for the iron blood ships anyway so yea its worth
some are perma available elsewhere tho iirc so check against wiki

[half plover]

yeah I am trying to get some commander exp while farming for these ships

before doing it later without getting much commander exp

[frank pulsar]

fastest method to earn commander exp is still just grinding the hardest stage available to you in campaign

[half plover]

I dont know how much a golden ship copy is in oil, or if it is better to buy gold bulins and use them for farmable golden ships

so that's why I have no idea if it is worth farming d3 for eugen copies

[zinc cave]

Generally not worth the time and oil to try and farm for a map drop dupe

[brisk dragon]

i reinstalled the game in a different emu today . and i forgot what i changed before the game auto select this and moves on

[inland shoal]

You probably just didn't reduce TB guidance I think

[brisk dragon]

👀

didn't touch anything after i reinstalled. ye. will see

should i leave the game at 60 fps or reduce to 30 ?

[plain saffron]

whichever you want

there should be no major affect on timing etc

[inland shoal]

Doesn't matter
Battles are 30 fps anyway

[brisk dragon]

no actual gameplay difference when i full auto in background ? and what items it means

[brisk dragon]

oh ok. never knew

[plain saffron]

only with battery saving though

or you mean like the logics

[plain saffron]

use ESD on the tower in opsi

[brisk dragon]

well it's in emu so no change i think. maybe less CPU usage

[inland shoal]

I mean the logics for everything in battle

Even bullet movements

[plain saffron]

yeah that's why no affect on both

[brisk dragon]

think i changed what i need for now. ty

[violet vigil]

Ight, I give up on fleet creation. Anyone so kind as to help this poor soul build some fleets?

[steady beacon]

Sure, just create a thread so as not to spam the main chat

[violet vigil]

General Fleets

[steady beacon]

Just note, saving oil at the expense of obtaining coins for building can kinda backfire
Coin gains during SP-type events tend to be quite bad (iirc the coin/oil ratio is fine, but the actual coin gains per clear is like 1/3 or 1/4 that of clearing e.g. 12-4) so if you don't have a good reserve already, getting enough coins to build if luck doesn't go your way can be tough if you also want to get enough event points to buy stuff in the shop

[inland shoal]

Are there any other ships that have double preload in addition to Unzen and Shima?

[steady beacon]

Ibuki

[inland shoal]

There's nothing like a torp reload calc right?

Other double preloads is only Percy right?

[steady beacon]

... Not that I've ever noticed, now you mention it...

[eager mulch]

does Harbin count

[whole crypt]

isn't harbin double load

[steady beacon]

Not really, no, since her second torp wave isn't a "loaded" one if that makes sense

[whole crypt]

or was that emden

[eager mulch]

Emden is double load

[inland shoal]

That's Emden and someone else I forgot

[steady beacon]

Emden is indeed concurrent loading, but she has no preload

The other is Shimanto

[whole crypt]

oh right

Shimanto also no preload though right

[inland shoal]

Unzen too

[steady beacon]

Actually, Unzen is also concurrent loading, but she also has double preload because Unzen

[eager mulch]

unzen is both double preload and double load

[trim path]

if i use an Early Summer Invitation to invite a ship, do i get that ship?

[steady beacon]

You do, yes

[trim path]

cool. from the selection, im missing Graf Zeppelin, Swiftsure and Le Malin. which one would be best? im thinking graf as im currently doing exp for grose

[sinful elk]

What is the thing i need to start retro warspite??

[eager mulch]

click on it

[steady beacon]

You need a gold bulin or Warspite copy

[forest palm]

wouldn't bother retrofitting her to begin with

[steady beacon]

If you want to do experience for FDG, then GZ
None of the three are "must haves" in any case, so choose the one most convenient for your needs

[eager mulch]

Graf zep will eat 4 gold bulins tho

[steady beacon]

All of them will eat 4 gold bulins though...

[trim path]

i have like 25 of em 😅

[inland shoal]

A gold bulin for 70 hp, what a steal

[steady beacon]

Journey of a dozen nodes begins with a single ridiculous investment

Also, to reiterate what was said above, the only reasons you'd get retro Warspite in modern times is (1) you really like her or (2) you are putting together a poverty PvP fleet

[inland shoal]

You can scratch 2 tbh, retrofitting Corgi ≠ poverty

[late flame]

or 3 nowhere to waste all that resource

[eager mulch]

4. collection

[steady beacon]

Well, pulling for New Jersey is surely worse

[eager mulch]

both bad

[inland shoal]

Yeah but not like either is magically gonna make you win all pvps anyway

[hard mesa]

yuudachi is cheapest among UR retrofit

[steady beacon]

You'd be surprised, tbh...
The impact of just one good ship in changing your PvP fortunes...

[trim path]

is graf zeppelin's augment something i'd want to craft?

or doesn't really matter/matter enough/not worth

[south sequoia]

If you plan to use graf zep yes since it's still a good upgrade for her

[trim path]

pretty much only to farm grose xp, still worthwhile?

[soft raft]

Imo not really

[south sequoia]

Not really unless you have the crystals and coins to spare

[inland shoal]

I've used Warspite in pvp before, I was never happy with her

[steady beacon]

When was this, out of curiosity?

[trim path]

ah, yeah. hurting on coins rn. ty guys

[jaunty vault]

its never worth to craft an augment for a ship you'll only use for exp farm

[jaunty vault]

2024 bet

[inland shoal]

Uhh 2 years ago or sth like that I think?

[south sequoia]

If you used her post-cv update it was awkward to use her yeah

[steady beacon]

Ye, even back then it was already hard to use her, and next to New Jersey she gets laughed off the stage
As someone who didn't have New Jersey, or the Italians, and had to make shit up the best I could... the impact is great

I guess I would phrase it as turning "completely impossible" matchups into "difficult, but plausible" matchups with enough luck

[inland shoal]

The thing is that I rarely see pvp fleets of medium difficulty which is the only opponent it really makes a difference against as easy you win anyway and hard you lose either way
Anyway ig we should stop talking about pvp here

[jaunty vault]

yeah why does my gph stink of pvp

[inland shoal]

It's not about pvp, it's about the value of Corgi

[round hare]

would lance be better than greatsword on kronk since she doesnt have torp? Im confused why greatsword is used on the ECTL

[steady beacon]

Or, perhaps more accurately, the non-value of Corgi

[south sequoia]

the value of corgi is she helps you unlock tech points for plymouth

[jaunty vault]

as far as the purpose of this channel goes, shes useless

[south sequoia]

[jaunty vault]

oh wait +2HIT

[jaunty vault]

FP

[cobalt rapids]

and slash

[inland shoal]

Slash > That weird thing Lance has on low hp
Also FP > Hit and AA (Most of the time)

[south sequoia]

slash is very good

[steady beacon]

Tbf you can get that +2 HIT without dumping unconscionable amounts of resources into the retrofit

[jaunty vault]

but my collection

[eager mulch]

our*

[steady beacon]

Well, if you're interested in collection, you're past the point where resources matter
Probably...

[round hare]

What does slash even do, i have it equipped on Cheshire but im kinds confuse cuz it looks like it hits nothing

[south sequoia]

bullet clear

[eager mulch]

it hits bullets and deletes them

[jaunty vault]

slash slashes

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki augments

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Augmentation
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Augment_Modules
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Special_Support_Plan_Augment_Modules

Apr 24, 2024, 12:58 PM

[jaunty vault]

not all slashes clear bullets

[inland shoal]

Torps are also bullets

[round hare]

Wym by that

[plain saffron]

some ships have slash in skill and it doesn't work the same way as augment's slashes

[south sequoia]

I don't think every slash can clear torps though otherwise people wouldn't be using fortune meta in pvp

[jaunty vault]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Augmentation#Slash_Damage

[inland shoal]

Well normal slashes start with a 15s cooldown...

[steady beacon]

Depends on what you mean by "slash" to be fair
Like... "slash" is variously used to describe barrages by like... Unzen, Shimakaze, and FortM and they are nothing alike

[round hare]

Im confused by the wiki thats why im asking here, how does the level work with different combinations

[cobalt rapids]

[plain saffron]

i don't think anyone refer them as slashes really

[cobalt rapids]

Slash Attacks are assigned a Level, which is dependent on the number and type of Slash Attack Augment Module(s) equipped.

[plain saffron]

vanguards have 3 area type? that's lvl 3 area, 2 area 1 spread? lvl 2 area + lvl 1 spread

[steady beacon]

Possibly blame my machine translator, then

[plain saffron]

wtf you have machine translator at home?

[inland shoal]

No the game calls them slashes alright

[round hare]

So assume i have 3 slash aug then it will be lvl 3 slash? If i mix 1 area and 2 slash then jts gonna be l1 area and l2 slash?

[plain saffron]

yeah

[round hare]

Ahh i see

[steady beacon]

Oh ye, that's true
Haven't checked everyone's, but Shima's is definitely called a "slashing attack"

[cobalt rapids]

both are slash, its area and spread but yea

[plain saffron]

now we blame EN TL

[eager mulch]

blame wiki, they slow

[round hare]

Does kawa aug also clear bullets?

[eager mulch]

.

[kind slate]

what are some non-UR vanguards worth raising to lvl 125

[plain saffron]

so does kawa aug also clear bullets?

[round hare]

So its spread hence doesnt?

[forest palm]

as if 60k coin, 6 bulins, various retro mats, and 2k Sp Cores was worth it

[eager mulch]

has slash attack skill yes

[plain saffron]

that doesn't answer the question smh

[eager mulch]

the augment will but the augment barrage will not

[warm flax]

Which does more damage between Hinden and Plymouth

[inland shoal]

Depends if you count the support skill

[plain saffron]

i have EN issue, next event is Heart-Linking Harmony right?

[inland shoal]

Idk the name, but idols tmr ye

[inland shoal]

That looks like Hormony

[late flame]

https://azurlane.yo-star.com/news/2024/04/24/maintenance-notice-4-25-12-a-m-utc-7/

[grand solar]

I am considering next month not buying the panel device thing for OpSi and just let the AI handle unlocking all my zones before I buy it.

[plain saffron]

i am reading but have EN issues

uhh what and how

[south sequoia]

You do know if you want to only to use the AI you need to spend extra ap for recon and it doesn't navigate the dark right

[plain saffron]

how you gonna use auto without buying it

[grand solar]

Cause it is a bit of a pain in the butt to find zones to unlock to open up.

[south sequoia]

Oil device opens up the whole map

[plain saffron]

good news the panel are used for that

[south sequoia]

You just need to clear it and spend ap for entering
the oil device just opens up the entire map outside abyssal so you can enter and go

[plain saffron]

it recon all zones, remove movement restrictions, allow strat search to work flawlessly*

[grand solar]

Yeah but like every bloody zone I enter doesn't record as being unlocked and itd frustrating me to no end.

[plain saffron]

it does count as unlocked

are you sure you're clearing explorable zones?

[inland shoal]

Did you actually use the item after buying it?

[late flame]

check storage

[grand solar]

Yes I did.

[viscid swift]

the benefit of the logger is to allow you use strategic search to clear all the explorable nodes each month rather than selecting nodes manually

[plain saffron]

at start of the month all zone start with "Explorable"
clear it once and it become "secured" for the rest of the month

the port shop count how many you "secured"

[south sequoia]

Are you sure you're not trying to enter the very center node of the map which is arbiter

because arbiter requires you to unlock at least 1 zone near it

[inland shoal]

• no need for recon either

[south sequoia]

because otherwise the entire map is unlocked

[late flame]

+only a once-a-month thing although some would argue they'd rather use the oil elsewhere i guess

[plain saffron]

it's a personal choice

[inland shoal]

I choose to first clear all explorables and then buy the logger

[plain saffron]

mod debuff is real

[grand solar]

And finding those zones is proving a bit of a pain in the butt. Notice how it says zones cleared and only 30? Yeah that's after nearly a month of work.

[plain saffron]

that's because you only cleared 30?

[inland shoal]

Have you tried Strategic Search -> Explorables?

[plain saffron]

did you set it to clear all and not c5 zones

[inland shoal]

Also they change in saturation kinda noticeably

[kindred dust]

this thing any good for akagi?

[viscid swift]

honestly I'm a bit more concerned at the fact you haven't finished Chapter 5 yet

[plain saffron]

wtf EN actually mentioned the ship?

[cobalt rapids]

yes its better than a steam cata usually

[kindred dust]

epic

[late flame]

but using akagi..

[inland shoal]

Now if only it wasn't limited to Akagi

[south sequoia]

haku will go crazy go stupid

[cobalt rapids]

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I've never really noticed slashes except when enemy FortMs delete all my torpedoes but what's the difference between "diameter" and "range" here?
I'd always thought "range" referred to the diameter of the slash, but that clearly must be wrong...

[kindred dust]

if the gear effect applies to her?

[grand solar]

I want to unlock the whole store to get all the nice goodies, but zones are hard to count as cleared.

[south sequoia]

Have you tried reading up

[inland shoal]

Spread is a circle of diameter diameter and moves forward for range

[cobalt rapids]

slacker

[soft raft]

Yeah it would've been pretty noteworthy hadn't it been limited to just Akagai

[plain saffron]

this was using the logger

[steady beacon]

Thank you

[south sequoia]

I advise not really using this in ere some people will take it the wrong way considering this is a help channel

[eager mulch]

do your opsi

[plain saffron]

[grand solar]

Well good for you. You do ot better than I most lile.y ever will.

[plain saffron]

please i beg you use it properly

[eager mulch]

take a screenshot of your opsi map right now

[frank pulsar]

its just pressing auto and afking wdym

[inland shoal]

Just put on strategic search and go to sleep and you will have the same

[south sequoia]

guide

[plain saffron]

can i get purple name now?

[south sequoia]

ask my manager

[frank pulsar]

if you make a vid and apply

[inland shoal]

Only if you publish on yt

[plain saffron]

open the strat search panel and screenshot again

[plain saffron]

omw to use powerpoint to mp4

i did have some idea for vids but i'm too lazy

[south sequoia]

in just a few moments you can be like just3c

[plain saffron]

but my idol is kimocheese

[hushed dawn]

How good is the new equipment for Akagi?

[inland shoal]

#content-help

[plain saffron]

better than catapult

[inland shoal]

Better than steam cata

[cobalt rapids]

better than a steam cata usually
around 8% more dmg

[hushed dawn]

Damn.

Shame it's only for Akagi. 😭

[cobalt rapids]

nah

[inland shoal]

I like how you singlehandidly recreated gph from 10 minutes ago

[hushed dawn]

Wait nvm I forgot you can still use gear even if the effect isn't considered.

[inland shoal]

Well why would you though

[dawn whale]

Duplication

[south sequoia]

well it being worse than a steam cata on anyone that isnt akagi should detour you from using that gear

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I thought that was deja vu all over again
Then scrolled up and was like... wild...

[hard mesa]

its prpl catapult

[late flame]

imagine farming 3-4 for this

[plain saffron]

told you they're not useless

[grand solar]

Will it also pick-up any paw prints that might havr been in the zone?

[viscid swift]

+4 AVI could never be useless

[plain saffron]

yes

imagine how gamechanging this could be

[warm flax]

How is Plymouth compared to top CLs dps

[eager mulch]

the top

[steady beacon]

Isn't she the top

[viscid swift]

she's literally the best, not even accounting for her debuff

[south sequoia]

a mile

[grand solar]

And I have to leave the ap open for this to happen right?

[plain saffron]

yeah and use AP boxes beforehand

[eager mulch]

either slam AP boxes and do it all in one go or don’t slam AP boxes and do it in short bursts

[hushed dawn]

One more curious question, but is Essex still considered a good CV? For her tier (ECTL) I mean.

[plain saffron]

yes essex class good

[eager mulch]

essex good, ectl bad

[inland shoal]

She's decent, but nothing amazing imo

[cobalt rapids]

ehhssex indeed

[hushed dawn]

Damn, literally Ehssex.

[soft raft]

She's certainly a CV
She's not shit but at the same time she won't be a high priority pick for much content

[sturdy latch]

which is a better dps aux for hinden?

[cobalt rapids]

Fumo

[inland shoal]

Unless the enemy is rly low eva anyway

[sturdy latch]

I’m not too familiar with how important hit rate is, can someone enlighten me?

[cobalt rapids]

miss = 0 dmg

[inland shoal]

hit rate or stat?

[eager mulch]

don’t miss = >0 dmg

[sturdy latch]

the hit stat, e.g. what’s listed on fumo

[plain saffron]

/accuracy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.

Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.

[south sequoia]

btw, in battle accuracy buffs means its buffing hit right? or is it buffing every stat that accounts into accuracy

[steady beacon]

Former

[inland shoal]

In general hit stat is very important for backliners while frontliners have much higher default hit so they don't want it as much. 30 hit is well worth losing 4 FP tho

[steady beacon]

Afaik, only things that buff LCK are things that explicitly say they buff LCK right
And they're all by fixed values rather than percentage?

[cobalt rapids]

usually yes, there isnt any hit rate buffs only eva rate debuffs (even if they say hit rate ) iirc but might be wrong

[sturdy latch]

would hit stat be more important for, say, CB compared to DD in vanguard since they use larger caliber guns?

[jaunty vault]

guns dont matter

[hard mesa]

its not related to guns

[jaunty vault]

for hit stat

[viscid swift]

SMH

[steady beacon]

So, in other words, Sirius' skill is technically wrong?

[cobalt rapids]

stat also doesnt rly matters since u have to choose between auxes bundled with stats not between stats

[cobalt rapids]

@inland shoal can correct me but iirc yes

[sharp token]

i just completed w11 and was wondering if my comp can do the whole w12

[steady beacon]

Naruhodou...

[sturdy latch]

I see

[ivory harbor]

is new oath skins droping this update ?
ok

[atomic abyss]

Yeah those shd be able to clear w12 assuming they're properly geared

[inland shoal]

There is only a single "hit rate" "buff" and it's Little Lusty and also broken (Instead of decreasing enemy hit rate it increases their eva rate)

[steady beacon]

There's a part of me feel that they should be interchangeable because you account for the buff/debuff at the same point of the calculation, but I also have no idea what Thorin reads to figure out how the game works

[hard mesa]

+hit rate our ships= -eva rate enemies

[plain saffron]

still the same effect since instead of + the hit rate, it - the eva rate right

[warm flax]

Is support fleet damage based off aa stat of planes or the ship itself

[plain saffron]

dmg calc same as in normal fleet except skills

[jaunty vault]

lil lusty out here buffing enemy eva rate

[eager mulch]

hit rate

[plain saffron]

was about to make sus jokes then i started hating myself

[kindred dust]

can you explain how good the effect is? i dont quite understand how it makes the gear good

[eager mulch]

don’t hate yourself

[inland shoal]

Sth sth 8% better than steam cata

[plain saffron]

increase dmg dealt by 12% is better than 100 AVI stats from catapult usually
wait is it 12 or 8

[cobalt rapids]

because +12 % dmg with over loss of avi compared to cata = ~8% dmg increase without even taking into account a possible unconcealed 3rd strike

[jaunty vault]

8% more damage boost over steam cata not 8% better

[plain saffron]

i tried

[kindred dust]

oh damn that's free damage

[late flame]

cope for akagi retrofit

[inland shoal]

Instead hate the me that hates you, think that's a quote from an anime no?

[cobalt rapids]

akagi is alr perfect

[kindred dust]

surely they will buff akagi soon

[atomic abyss]

Don't give them ideas...

[viscid swift]

perfectly useless yes

[atomic abyss]

Tho frankly, the hilarious part is that Akagi does have the worse loadout compared to Kaga

[kindred dust]

kaga retro seems more likey, comes with complimentary f35!

[grand solar]

So if ai close it down, things stophappening and how many boxes is recommended I start with?

[atomic abyss]

Akagi for whatever reason has 125% efficiencies on all 3 slots like the Yorktown classes

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[plain saffron]

it stop once you ran out of AP or you secured all

[viscid swift]

uhhhh, I don't know who that is and have no affiliation with them

[plain saffron]

how much AP to clear all zone i don't remember

[atomic abyss]

Kaga has buffed TB efficiencies instead
I think 130%?

[steady beacon]

150

[atomic abyss]

Even better then

[eager mulch]

akagi has better fighters, better in w15 support fleet

[cobalt rapids]

better skyraider user

[atomic abyss]

I mean at that point you'd run the bunnies...

Pretty sure the bunnies have better efficiencies

[eager mulch]

no they don’t

[steady beacon]

... Now I'm curious, did you use Skyraider on her against Yuki...?

[jaunty vault]

3000 iirc a bit less than that

[eager mulch]

same eff at 125%

[grand solar]

I know the first rainbow gear I want to craft in the gearlab, is the Wyvern for Enterprise.

[inland shoal]

Btw if you want an exact explanation there is no difference in final effect between decreasing enemy eva rate and increasing own hit rate, but if you just look at the ships and their properties in one case you will have our own ships with an attached + hit rate and one time you will have enemy ships with an attached -eva rate
Though hit rate buffs just don't exist in this game as they're coded to be evaluated the same way as eva rate debuffs by (probably) accident or to be even more precise they're evaluated as hit rate buffs, but for the wrong ship

[atomic abyss]

Oof
Tho ye makes sense I guess

The only unfortunate thing is that Kaga doesn't have Shoukek's loadout

[eager mulch]

just use nano bro she’s perma

[atomic abyss]

Shoukek is 2/2/4
Zuikek is 2/3/3

[eager mulch]

haku too smh my head no excuse not having them

[steady beacon]

You sometimes give me the impression that everything in this game might have been coded accidentally

[atomic abyss]

My haku isn't d30

[forest palm]

just get Dev 30 it's not that hard

[plain saffron]

this game is an accident

[steady beacon]

So... you didn't ply PR5/PR6 prints into her in the end, I take it

[frank pulsar]

admin slacking smh my head

[atomic abyss]

I realised I actually had no PR5 DR prints lol

I chucked the PR4 ones in

Tho I do have enough PR6 ones to D30 her

[novel condor]

is ok ender, I still havent FS5 my haku yet

[atomic abyss]

The issue is less so Hinden
It's more so is if she more worth than Ply

[steady beacon]

Ngl, if it were me, I'd chuck those PR6 ones her way, but from the OpSi runs your BB fleet is probably better so I think Ply is better for you to spend those on

[atomic abyss]

The difference is
I'm not on PR5 yet

[eager mulch]

the haku/nano pair though

[inland shoal]

Do you even have a Tenrai from PR4 yet?

I'd just stay in PR4 until then anyway

[atomic abyss]

Like I've started using the PR5 catch up yes

I do have a tenrai from the protocore

[cobalt rapids]

get another one

[forest palm]

you really don't need more than a meat shield, helena, plymouth, kazagumo, and sirius

[inland shoal]

Well that much is obvious which is why I specified from PR4

[eager mulch]

how five ships in vanguard

[atomic abyss]

What is the notable gear from PR5 anyways

[inland shoal]

Plygun

[eager mulch]

ply gun

[viscid swift]

Plymouth Gun... and that's it

[atomic abyss]

...right that was a stupid question
Besides the ply gun

[eager mulch]

none

[inland shoal]

Nothing

[jaunty vault]

precisely its 2880 for all explorable zones

[atomic abyss]

[forest palm]

there's the mle 1936 in PR5 as well

[eager mulch]

which one is that

[steady beacon]

Harbin gun

[jaunty vault]

is it better than the mle2024

[forest palm]

VIT if you're still somehow Wyvern poor

[plain saffron]

mle2020 is the peak

[atomic abyss]

Uhhhh

I am wyvern poor 🏃‍♂️

[forest palm]

PR6 as a whole is very mid, and I'd hope Fate Sim will change that

[eager mulch]

don’t be

[atomic abyss]

Tho I think I can craft my first one after clearing another abyssal or stronghold tonight

[jaunty vault]

id rather use barracuda than invest coins in VIT

[steady beacon]

I'm prejudiced but even if you lack Wyverns, I'd rather use Barras tbh

[cobalt rapids]

[atomic abyss]

I wouldn't have enough Barras
Cos I have a million +10 ryuuseis

[novel condor]

[eager mulch]

only +10 smh my head

[steady beacon]

Uh... depends on your luck tbf
Rainbow aircraft prints aren't guaranteed

[forest palm]

VIT is a better alternative to being pepega, and spending mats on a Skypirate

[eager mulch]

+13 them, embrace ryuusei fleet

[inland shoal]

Ehh I disagree, Kear is strong, Hindy is strong, Shimanto is strong, they're all just kinda boring or niche

[atomic abyss]

I'm one away iirc

[frank pulsar]

wasnt cuda two waves of torps like vit? just spend 500 coin on vit

[atomic abyss]

Wut

[eager mulch]

their skins aren’t boring

[atomic abyss]

3 torps in a single row no?

[frank pulsar]

[steady beacon]

Nope, definitely not
VIT is the only one with its weird pattern iirc

[atomic abyss]

Sorry not row, column

[forest palm]

exactly, that's why it's mid, none of the ships truly standout, add anything unique, all their roles can be facilitated by existing ships

[frank pulsar]

im just not gonna think about it my life is a lie

[atomic abyss]

Who replaces Shimanto

[eager mulch]

harb

[steady beacon]

Well, after they dropped, uh... last two URs probably

[forest palm]

harbin, or sandy

[steady beacon]

Wait, we had Soyuz smh... the two URs before that

[inland shoal]

I'd also say Guam or Laffii

[atomic abyss]

harb
Is Shiman's damage competitive with Harb?

[eager mulch]

similar

[frank pulsar]

close

shimanto basically harbin with aa on crack

[eager mulch]

meanwhile Harbin is a chain smoker

[atomic abyss]

So I guess, she's like the Sakura love child of Sandy and Harbin?

[forest palm]

or just Isuzu but not shit

[jaunty vault]

cuda is one wave
VIT is 2 waves but its 2 waves is like 1 wave of cuda which makes it practically worse than the 4 in line torp shooting TBs lile wyvern skypirate and the another UR one

[steady beacon]

After accounting for AA performance, I don't think it's a competition, at least for the places you'd actually use Shimanto though

[atomic abyss]

Isuzu with ridiculous damage lol

[frank pulsar]

so cuda is better then

[viscid swift]

Shimanto in AL is honestly how I found out Shimanto has cracked AA in wows

[jaunty vault]

no VIT is better