gameplay-help

[cobalt rapids]

their hourly rate is around the same but just keep in mind that rolling new research is rng

[wild whale]

I see

[stable badger]

so...i think i'm dumb or something. how can i get 80 Reload for CVs from tech when i'm at +36 reload from tech and i can only get another +5 from what CVs i haven't 120 yet. i double and triple checked my fleet tech

[cobalt rapids]

40 from tech 40 from cats ( 20 + 20 ) but what are u trying to do with 80 rld

[hard sedge]

i have a kinda dumb question: when you are farming exp like levels for your ship how did u guys do it? as in u ran out of books

[pliant acorn]

Is Unzen good for mob fleet tank?

[stable badger]

oh.. 40 is max from fleet tech? i'm trying the yukikaze challenge

[cobalt rapids]

grind in w12

[keen sable]

farm exp? i have 3000 books. it's hard to use them

[cobalt rapids]

oh do you have soyuz ?

[pliant acorn]

Im planning to use her in ops siren

[sweet delta]

copy my video 🙈

[pliant acorn]

Does the xp you get in ops siren goes to "Combat Data Collection" too?

[stable badger]

i do. but i saw this fleet cuz there' not much in terms of oathed ships

[cobalt rapids]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[sweet delta]

as long as you have soyuz at 199 effective RLD, the other two ships can be desynced or synced, just have enough dps to kill in like 7 minutes

i recommend replacing kear with soyuz

[pliant acorn]

Last question. Whats the armor type of the opsiren boss this month?

[eager mulch]

light

[cobalt rapids]

light + med jelly

[urban shard]

who should i priortize level up and/or use?
should i plan to use my 3 ur bulins on shisano

[keen sable]

4 or bust

[urban shard]

should i level up shisasno at all? not much JP ships

[cobalt rapids]

shisasno isnt mlb and as all non mlb ships not worth lvling

[stable badger]

hmm...i have +17 from tech on another +6 from cat..that's 189...autoloader is 14 reload... can i go past 199 or do i skip the cat and upgrade the autoloader a bit?

[cobalt rapids]

dont go past 199

u need exact 199 if u want soyuz to have a good timing

[keen sable]

you don't already have 12 autoloaders ranging from 0 to 11 yet? but anyways you can fine tune reload tech

[sweet delta]

199 to 201 is ok. Decrease your BB rld tech

[stable badger]

i mean. i have 3 of them and all are put on the vanguard. "Back in my day, autoloader was a bad aux."

[cobalt rapids]

your mainfleet is fine but ur vanguards not so much, but then again not many options if u alr one fleeted to w11 then u can start looking for prgrind

[sweet delta]

and then your yorkii and implac can go do their own thing (preferably synced with each other)

[vivid panther]

is new jersey better than shinano?

[atomic abyss]

can't be compared directly

[cobalt rapids]

shes not a better investment

[atomic abyss]

they're entirely different class of ships

btw
owari or odin for mobbing

[cobalt rapids]

owari is the best gold bb

[urban shard]

then should i level it up at all?

[stable badger]

i mean, i got the sweet spot. 166 soyuz+ 17 from tech +16 from lv1 autoloder is 199

[sweet delta]

you switched the cats to RLD-less cats

[grand solar]

How exactly do I set it up to do auto stuff on OpSi?

[atomic abyss]

i'd say worth levelling her slowly yes
you'll want to raise her eventually after all

[cobalt rapids]

eventually could be months in the future

[urban shard]

then who should be my main 6 mob + 6 boss fleet? before the months

[cobalt rapids]

you press strategic search or auto search and ur selected fleet does the rest

[keen sable]

it's far better to use L100 ships and book ships you want to use

[keen sable]

you don't have anyone capable of replacing the six ships you are currently using

[lyric hornet]

Quick question, any recommendations for a vanguar I have Helena and Avrora as temporary/permanent, will also put Belorussiya in the backline when I get here(not a very serius russian mob fleet )

[cobalt rapids]

i recommend not using non mlb ships with ur dock

[worldly pewter]

he might be in the process of theorycrafting before investing

[lyric hornet]

For now I am cooking something out of having 3 cool Russian ships and boredom

[keen sable]

a 0LB L100 Helena META...

[cobalt rapids]

i recommend postponing faction fleeting untill ure done early-mid progression

[knotty dome]

is this better than gold quad mag against light?

[cobalt rapids]

if same enh yes

[lyric hornet]

Well I cam beat world with my current fleet but I don't want to deal with it

[cobalt rapids]

what world

[keen sable]

I think like chapter 3-4 will be an excellent combination of death defying hardness for those ships...

[knotty dome]

ty

[lyric hornet]

With having to manual like 20 battles, world 12 forgot to type it somehow

It isn't late game but it's good enough

[urban shard]

for my vanguard, who should i use? on one side i have laffey, helena, portland, on the other side i have 0lb krons, lil cheshire, not retrofitted san diego, not retrofitted z23, not leveled up Pamiat' Merkuria/z46/kiev/not MLB javelin

[cobalt rapids]

then kiev replaces helmet and ig u run 2 backlines only since u dont have another np backline

but mlb soyuz first

[worldly pewter]

playing the game and making proper fleets is better than trying to make a scuffed faction one imo

[lyric hornet]

Yes but I am cooked and also waifu game I use waifus

[cobalt rapids]

playing the game proper during mid game allows u to get the super cool shipyard ships like chkalov and have a proper NP fleet

[worldly pewter]

then use ur waifus ?

usually people here ask for help in their gameplay

[lyric hornet]

I know but wanted to ask so it's usable and not utterly garbage

[keen sable]

convince yourself unicorn delivered planes to russia and didn't spend her time in the pacific

[worldly pewter]

[cobalt rapids]

using so many lb0 ships is very bad
ships get huge bonuses during limitbreaks
well its not a permanent problem but ur bulins are scarce so till this fleet becomes a proper faction fleet ure gonna have to manual harder than usuall

[keen sable]

does not levelled up also mean not mlb?

[rigid egret]

Where can I find a beginners guide?

[cobalt rapids]

/guide in sams compendium

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 New Player's Guide by .Snub and Community TL

🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[urban shard]

lv20 something
have the gold material for MLB, but not sure what to invest yet

[lyric hornet]

Yea I am gonna level them up but I am not rushing it since there abilities aren't leveled up and that takes a lot of time

[urban shard]

also when in auto search / repeat sortie, sometime i have some maps (9-1 to 9-3) after killing mob, the boss appeared but the way is blocked, and my boss fleet need extra fights to get to the boss. Does it cost oil to do so? should i try to not do this?

[stable badger]

i did it man, Soyuz shot half a second after healers show up. ice slam ruined them

[cobalt rapids]

yes and yes u can your road isnt blocked

[rigid egret]

/tags

[odd root]

Tag list: timegate, logmode, jdaburn, subs, sirenlog, 15runs, glossary, corewarning, devbp, droprate, opsidebuff, prgrind, accuracy, fleetpower, gems, aircontrol, research, oilpsa, skillstack, missile, oilcap, armour, buildrate, detection, roles, fleettech, techsupport, ddg, tierlist, cats, w15, sirenstats, crossfleet, reqhelp, gearlab, plus13, coredata, protocore, equip, guide

[cobalt rapids]

personal commands when not answering questions should be used in #bot-spam

[urban shard]

if i dont run auto search, i run manual, then i can plan path and not waste oil - takes some time tho. should i do it?

[cobalt rapids]

i dont recommend it, save ur sanity and take the extra fight loss its not the end of the world

[urban shard]

or are there some ch9-or-later maps that blocking happens less frequently?

[cobalt rapids]

some less some more depends on layout and spawns

[urban shard]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_9
this wiki here just said " is 4.x coin/oil" without mentioning blocking
so i guess it is 3.x coin/oil in real life

[cobalt rapids]

the rates dont consider blocking

if u want better rates u should push w12 anyway

actually does 9-2 even have blocking ? idt so but idr

[sharp onyx]

In the operation siren supply shop, can you only buy these file zone loggers once on your account? Do they not reset each month like everything else?

[urban shard]

yeah 9-2 seems to be able to block 5 times (boss fleet from right)

guess iwill just farm some 9-3 to get more exp before able to clear 10-1

[keen sable]

I don't see 6 usaful vanguards. 4 or 5 at best. You have a couple of options

1. Cleveland is cheap
2. MLB a KMS ship like z46 or Eugen for fleet tech copium
3. Chang Chun will cost 1600 core data and 1000 specialized core

[inner delta]

they dont reset

[stable badger]

heard New Jersey became/fell to the 3rd best BB. who's better?

[sharp onyx]

damn, that sucks

thanks for the help

[cobalt rapids]

should be only 5 battles max no matter where u start but mby im a goofball

[urban shard]

hmmm i mean the stupid auto search can use mob fleet to clear 5 on left and the boss fleet had another 5 on right, but ig blocking is just a thing that will exist even (more?) in ch12

[cobalt rapids]

oh yea i was thinking for one fleeting

[keen sable]

yes it costs oil, yes you should avoid it, the way to avoid it is to not do chapter 9 and do war archives instead.

[urban shard]

yeah i dont have independence / any purchase from core store yet, maybe not chang chun for now... i mean i can buy it from guild shop today but wont be useful

[inland shoal]

Eh for bossing ig there's Bisz, Sushi, Vanny, Soyuz that are all preferred over NJ

[keen sable]

you don't need independence. you have saratoga

[urban shard]

i am also capped on war acrhive core data. which one should i want to progress/farm? i heard i want the chessboard to drop some KMS ships

[keen sable]

it's far better to do cost limit in war archives than cost limit in chapter 9.

[tender locust]

any way to get these other than the daily?

[keen sable]

Divergent Chessboard would be useful for KMS ships

[cobalt rapids]

events

[soft raft]

You mean the weekly
event shops and ocassional special daily raid events are the only other ways

[tender locust]

rip so no extras available rn

[sharp onyx]

What's the best way to farm these, or the gold rarity ones?

[cobalt rapids]

opsi

[urban shard]

i guess you are saying any one of them will be good? i guess i will still need to progress to the oil-capped map

[stable badger]

mirror for washing machines~

[urban shard]

9-2 2 blocking, not too much a problem though

[cobalt rapids]

yea i thought u were one fleeting

[stable badger]

also it's a matter of what you need. for example: i wanted more CV catapults, so i farmed Fallen wings for a long time. there's the french gun in Iris light&dark. and the Magnetic torp aux. item from Aurora Noctis.

[urban shard]

hmm, maybe i can try 1 fleet it

[crimson glacier]

the gun in iris is pointless

[urban shard]

i have nothing so i want everything i guess

[viscid swift]

just don't worry about over capping on data keys in the first place

[stable badger]

i mean...when you got nothing... what's a good DD gun easily accessible?

[viscid swift]

there's little that's worth farming for and the loss of coins and oil just to farm for stuff that's of rather questionable value over pushing the main campaign and farming W12+

[cobalt rapids]

skc 128

[crimson glacier]

its not easily accessible

[cobalt rapids]

u can get it in like ur first opsi month and its not conflicting mats

[keen sable]

it won't take long because war archives only needs 1 clear for each map

you should be able to easily 1:1 C maps with unicorn or volga + laffey. Maybe on C3 use the boss fleet to be safe

[haughty star]

What are some alternatives to Jeanne for chapter 15 mob fleet, ill have Cheshire and Sandy

[stable badger]

Sandy~ cheshire is kinda squishy for a "tank" in ch15

[crimson glacier]

i think i used brest and shimanto in w15 but i dont remember the 3rd

[haughty star]

Sorry i meant those are my other 2 at the moment

i was thinking of someone that fills jeannes role of a good support shielder in the vanguard if another exists

[stable badger]

well...any of the Eagle union DDs from Allen Summers sisters will work. they have High AA and will help with subs too

[viscid swift]

There is no direct alternative for Jeanne

[haughty star]

ok

[sweet delta]

a vanguard as squishy as cheshire+sandy does pretty much need jeanne

[haughty star]

Im guessing thats why this person used Jeanne is because cheshire is squishy as a tank

[sweet delta]

use guam and/or laffeyii as the tank

[haughty star]

would one of those be better as the boss fleet?

[sweet delta]

depends on your options, you can use both on mob or use guam on boss

laffii is a lot more valuable on mob because she can use hedgehog or double asw for free

[haughty star]

im basically missing the first 2 years of UR's i think.

[crimson glacier]

luckily the older the UR the weaker it is usually

[haughty star]

well it seems Musashi? i think ive seen used a lot for 15

[crimson glacier]

musashi is anomaly not a norm

[haughty star]

should have her soon if i should pick her first from the new UR banner thing

[crimson glacier]

you cant pick her

[haughty star]

oh i was confusing her with shinano

[crimson glacier]

she wont be available in perma for years

[wispy pendant]

musashi hasn't even been rerun yet

[stable badger]

heh...can't wait for Yamato herself to show up. what busted "features" will she have

[haughty star]

I feel like im screwed for chapter 15 boss fleets i dont seem to have any good main ships people are commonly using

[soft raft]

then post your dock in a thread so we can find the best options you have

[forest palm]

ships from like 2018 can beat Ch 13

[haughty dust]

And around what level and development level can I start using AVP in my iron blood main fleet?

[graceful meteor]

30

[forest palm]

FS5 tbh

[haughty dust]

ok

FS5?

[graceful meteor]

Yea, fs5 definitely the goal

Pretty usable dev30 tho

[forest palm]

yes, August at Dev 30 is just an awkward Ark Royal,

[haughty dust]

What does that stand for though?

[cobalt rapids]

fate simulation 5

[frank kernel]

Ppl used her at dev30 before she even had a fate sim so it's not like she's useless, just awkward to use properly like Taz said

[haughty dust]

ok

[elfin hollow]

How do you effectively grind 12-4? Like I use a mob and boss fleet ofcource but what should I do with the ships I want to grind exp with? I usually put them in mob fleet but idk

[frank kernel]

Mob fleet with Unicorn or Perseus, as long as they're not like level 50 you should be able to keep them healed up

[graceful meteor]

sounds good, as long as you can use ship that you need exp on

[soft raft]

mob fleet is where they should be
dunno why you would think otherwise

you either have them lvled up high enough to tank it or you have a healer babysit them all

[forest palm]

you try to use as little BBs as possible

[elfin hollow]

Idk prob thinking too much into it just wanted to ask to make sure

Thanks for clarification

[viscid swift]

how much you can get away with depends on the ships your using and their gear

[haughty star]

I would use mob fleet to full clear once you can, boss fleet is there if they cant

[viscid swift]

I rather try to avoid the use of a carry in W12 at all costs

[elfin hollow]

didn't think of that

[soft raft]

Eh I'd still use the boss fleet for its intended purpose

no real benefit for letting your tech shitters go fight it

[haughty star]

dont the bosses give more xp? if youre full auto-ing then theres no real downside

[graceful meteor]

I wouldn't try one fleet 12-4, especially with Randoms, always aim for S if possible to not lose exp

[frank kernel]

Perseus crossfleet can be another trickle of hp if you're using low level vanguard, don't be afraid to stick toolkits on your backline if those are the ones being dragged through

[sweet delta]

The downside is having to make your mob fleet stronger than it needs to be, preventing you from putting in 6 common/rare bad ships

[elfin hollow]

Just trying to level up FDG and NJ

[soft raft]

Not good enough to justify one-fleeting
Esp with ships you're trying to lvl up

[viscid swift]

not having to fight the boss gives you signficiantly more leeway on what ships you can bring, not to mention having your ships possibly sink is -10 morale which rather puts a damper on farming

[forest palm]

quite honestly the slower the run the less value that run has

[haughty star]

Ive recently grinded all of my BP ships everythign above 100 pretty much always lived full clears

[novel condor]

how to increase your ship affinity from disappointed to normal levels?

[soft raft]

Perseus cross fleet heal is some massive cope, and also for it to affect your mob, she'd have to be in the boss fleet which is also a bad idea

[viscid swift]

like trying to force this lot to clear the 12-4 boss without ammo is more trouble than it's worth

[forest palm]

wow not Lv 120'ing your BMs, shame

[haughty dust]

thanks for the information. My catch-up character is currently FDG. I’m either going to go to Agir or AVP after she is finished.

[viscid swift]

working on it

[haughty star]

Well since i Was working on research ships, id have the weak Vanguard or Main depending on what was needed and the opposite was strong to carry

[forest palm]

you can do multiple catch-up can't you? well at least 1 per season that has it

[haughty star]

When they got low morale i was done for the day

[haughty dust]

why that emoji reaction?

[soft raft]

That's....
kinda the point tbh

[soft raft]

afaik you can only do one at a time regardless of season and/or rarity

[frank kernel]

Ye it's something like 300 prints across the entirety of the PRs in a series and then each DR gets their own pool of 150.

[cobalt rapids]

I didn’t think it was that valuable

[haughty dust]

Why do you say that?

[cobalt rapids]

Anyway all good assuming u got ancho

[haughty dust]

Anchorage is already maxed out except for her actual physical level

[cobalt rapids]

Yea ure good then

[haughty dust]

So is Saint Louis. I think those are the only two ships that are currently fully maxed out minus physical ship level.

Still working on Monarch and FdG first for the free and catchup stuff. After FdG I will either finish up Agir’s development level and FS or start on AvP. Whichever you guys think I should do next. I’m saving Seattle to be the very last character. I fully finish of currently unlocked characters.

[soft raft]

Priority is FdG -> All of PR4 -> at least Plymouth from PR5 -> Everyone else

[cobalt rapids]

Focus season 4 and u should also try to do marco after avp to accelerate haku and aegir

[haughty dust]

I feel like there are more important characters before I mess with Seattle or any PR 1, PR 2 or PR 3 characters. Which I haven’t even started PR 3 yet.

[viscid swift]

not really, they've all by and large been powercrept

[cobalt rapids]

Since gold 4 are coinable

[soft raft]

you honestly can save PR1-3 for later
They're not really that top in terms of pratical uses except for maybe Drake but even then she's been powercrept

Outside of that, may as well do them for the tech points when you can

[haughty dust]

well, tomorrow I can switch to PR five or six if need be. I currently can’t do whatever that character that starts with the letter H name is yet because I’m still working on getting the amount of tech points needed. I have more information on my current situation currently in the thread titled. #1232003751947145329

[cobalt rapids]

After pr 4 prios and fdg shipyard build order doesnt rly matter since the nxt season in line will take a longg time to be usable so just do them whenever or when they are close to d30

[haughty dust]

I am about to post my current PR five and six situation in that thread in just a moment if you want to know.

[willow crag]

Question, I left last february/early march, there should be a new UR coming this month or next month right? So I should come back around now or wait a bit longer?

[cobalt rapids]

Well ur research focus stays on 4 till haku fs5 and 2 tenrai in depot

[haughty dust]

posted the situation in the thread I mentioned.

[soft raft]

next month
Also you missed quite a bit of time to grind cubes

[cobalt rapids]

Today better than tomorrow

[willow crag]

I had 150-200 stock cubes before I left

[haughty dust]

Well, again, I cannot work on her currently because I don’t have the necessary amount of tech points. That’s why I started Marco Polo today. However, sometime tomorrow I can switch to a different character if need be to develop.

[willow crag]

How so

[soft raft]

that's not enough
you'd ideally have at least 400 in case you have to hit pity (400 cubes/200 pulls)

[willow crag]

I trust in gacha gods that I wont pity

[soft raft]

And you pratically missed out on at least 324 cubes if you left in Feb

[cobalt rapids]

U get more pulls the earlier u play

[willow crag]

I know… its just that I got burnt out of the epic daily grind

How much do I earn from returner? 100 cubes?

[viscid swift]

getting BPs and unlocking a ship are 2 different affairs

getting Haku to FS5 in this case means getting the 728 BPs or so needed to max her

when you unlock her is irrelevant because she won't be used until she's at least Dev 30 which you probably will have unlocked her by the time you do so

I would be very surprised if the returnee missions gave that many cubes

[pure geode]

well 168 per month, 20 from cruise pass and including that returne thing; this'd get you close to that 400.

also nothing stopping you from getting more cubes while the event is going on

[willow crag]

I remember it along the lines like that, but didnt they revamp it awhile back?

[cobalt rapids]

U get about 100 just from daily returnee missions ye

[soft raft]

Depends on your commander lvl

• Lvl 10-59: 72
• Lvl 60-94: 84
• Lvl 94-500: 95

And there's this too but eh dunno if it's worth

[willow crag]

Guess Im getting 95

Wait just to clarify, Bisko 2 and Musashi came last year right? Not the year before?

[soft raft]

BisZwei was May 2023
Musashi was Sept 2022

[willow crag]

So musashi rerun this year huh

WTH HAPPENED TO MY GAME

Its in PORTRAIT

[fluid brook]

Must be due to a config in the emulator

[soft raft]

🔮

[viscid swift]

who knows, I'm guessing not personally

[soft raft]

We have no concrete idea, we're a long way away from her rerun anyways

[ivory linden]

With the new medal exchange for spec core we might get 4 ur re runs this year so maybe sushi will rerun in fall

[viscid swift]

it's not the issue about the number of UR reruns, it's about the number of reruns period

[willow crag]

Its my phone, luckily it fixed itself

[viscid swift]

if we assume that Musashi reruns this year and everything is run in order then that means we'd have an unprecedented 6 large event reruns plus Brunhilde and Impero

compared to 2021 with just 5 large event reruns which had the most reruns in a year

[tough rampart]

So I pulled New Jersey is she any good for PvE?

[soft raft]

1. I hope you did that via perma pity instead of hard pulling heavy/special
2. Depends on your dock and/or what other URs you have

[willow crag]

Wait hold up real quick, How many URs do we get in a year? 4 right?

The last UR was January or February so there should be a UR next month right? Or are they saving it for JP/EN anni

[tough rampart]

I have Ulrich & Kron

[viscid swift]

going on the previous years 4 new UR events, actually number of new URs may or may not be more than 4

[soft raft]

the pattern for the past few years has been Feb, May (CN Anniv), Sept (JP Anniv), and Dec

EN doesnt get anything special most of the time because we're way too close to JP anniv, luckiest we've had was Fool's scales

[ivory linden]

It seems like they are rushing things too much. You think we'll get rondo before or after the cn anniversary UR?

[willow crag]

Yeah so there is a UR next month

Good thing I came back now

[viscid swift]

who knows, I'm guessing not though

[tepid ridge]

I am at that point where my ships need to be upgraded to clear levels again (I am at commander level 70), but I don't want to invest resources that are hard to come by in things that are suboptimal until I am at a stage where they are easier to grind for, I have been looking for ship compositions since I have some that could be really good, but I can't find anything that fully works for me. Normally I would experiment until I find something I like but that feels like its not an option here, are there any recomendations that people can make?

[viscid swift]

well for a start max limit break your Zwei

[tepid ridge]

of course

[viscid swift]

where are you again in the main campaign

[tepid ridge]

I think around chapter 9 or so

not very far, its more the events that crush me

[viscid swift]

Mob: Nelson retro/Hood, Unicorn, Saratoga retro, Roon Muse, Regensburg, Otto
Boss: Bismarck Zwei, Enterprise, Theseus, Eugen, Helena, [filler]

[willow crag]

12-1 is the most efficient for exp right? and 12-4 for cash?

[tough rampart]

I want to revamp my boss and Mob fleets but I need to do reequips first...i'm having a hard time figuring out how to time sync

[viscid swift]

no but they're good farming spots with 12-1 leaning more towards XP and cogs and 12-4 for coins

[ivory linden]

11-1 for xp

[willow crag]

what 11-1? not 12-1?

[tepid ridge]

I will try it thank you

[viscid swift]

yeah don't farm 11-1

[thorn tartan]

what do you guy do with excess exp books? how do you select the recipients?

[soft raft]

technially 11-1 for max oil/XP effeiceny and 14-4 has the best gold but W12 is a nice mid-point between grinding XP and coins, making it the sweet spot to farm overall

[viscid swift]

also read Sam's Guide in #bot-spam /equip, equips will matter

[willow crag]

well I honestly dont care about my oil, Im trying to get off my 24000 oil savings down to at least 17000

[ivory linden]

As far as oil efficiency goes yeah, it's pretty slow and you don't get any cog chips if that's what you are going for.

[thorn tartan]

i farm 12-4 but i have more coin than i know what to do with at the moment.

[soft raft]

then either grind 12-4 or buy dorm food
or both

[haughty star]

which xp books? the research xp books or the ones to boost your ship levels?

[thorn tartan]

yeah, buy dorm food. that's what i do if i don't have time or will to grind the oil away

[willow crag]

can 12-1 do, Im too lazy to go to 12-4

[thorn tartan]

xp books that boost ship level

[soft raft]

then just grind that ig

[willow crag]

what you can buy xp books with oil?

[haughty star]

to use those you just go to the ship you want to level and click their xp bar

[ivory linden]

In a way yes lol, portion of your xp from battles turns into books

[thorn tartan]

i have xp books in excess. i can't limit break gold ships becuase i don't have enough bulin. so i guess i'll use the exp books on random purple or lower rarity ships

except i've already MLB all my common gray ships

[haughty star]

or just hold onto them for new ship releases

[tepid ridge]

another game thing, to the cats matter?

[soft raft]

that's just how you grind them in the first place, that's not really fitting the definition of "Buying" them

[willow crag]

ah that part, nah Im just going to do battles so I can unlock hindenburg mommy, just need like 500,000 exp

[thorn tartan]

no, i have to spend the xp books because you can only hold 3000

[willow crag]

what? since when was there an xp book cap?

[viscid swift]

start dumping them into ships you'll be leveling soon

[viscid swift]

since they were released/added

[thorn tartan]

yeah, i can level up some research ships some more, speed the process along

[haughty star]

ah i did not know there was a cap, yah then just dump em on whoever

get those tech upgrades

[thorn tartan]

Yumi doesn't give me tech but i'll do her next, but i'll need more bulins

[ivory linden]

Would be a broken thing if you could buy insta xp

[thorn tartan]

Weser wins the prize. She just went from Zero to MLB. Because what else.... Good IB tech too

The Wiki says you get no tech points for Zeppy???

[tepid ridge]

do the cats matter for these teams? here are my current options

I can't remember if the cats buffs are actually useful or not, I was told no but that was a long time ago

[thorn tartan]

No tech points in wiki for Baltimore u either???

is there a way to search ships by available tech points?

[viscid swift]

not particularly, just throw some in for now

[viscid swift]

muse ships don't give tech

[tepid ridge]

ok then

[inland shoal]

Cats are certainly useful and have always been
But they're such a pita and you can get a half decent cat relatively easily that making perfect cats is just not worth it

[thorn tartan]

I just used all my purple bulin mlb'ing ships i'll probably never use, but got some tech here and there

[worldly pewter]

i spent gold bulins on ships that i not going to use

[eternal basalt]

Cause she gives none

[elfin hollow]

Useless ships

[eternal basalt]

As for sorting ships per tech https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Tech_points

[inland shoal]

Can't spell muse without use, so wrong

[brisk dragon]

any suggested teams for current META ?

[inland shoal]

Pins have one

[brisk dragon]

oh? not used to that. let's see

i see the first pic and a linked msg. which one is best for full autoing?

i haven't caught up with meta for years idk what's good and what's not nowadays

[inland shoal]

They're both good on auto, idk which is more consistent

[brisk dragon]

the pin says that the linked msg "might" be more consistant cuz no Helena RNG
hope i did read that correct. cuz u know. EN

[inland shoal]

Yes but afaik there's no solid numbers behind that statement

Pls don't do bot commands for yourself here

[south sequoia]

Which barrage would be better for aka muse in terms of mobbing? Odd or even?

[inland shoal]

I don't think it makes a huge difference

I think generally TBs are a bit better but struggle more with stragglers

[brisk dragon]

where do i get these?

[inland shoal]

Gear lab

[brisk dragon]

shiet. i keep forgetting that's a thing

don't have a single thing....

[viscid swift]

open some IB tech boxes

[inland shoal]

Unless it's the materials you're lacking ofc

[eternal basalt]

iirc those stuff all got added with opsi

You get them during the turorial, but I am sure you've done some of Operation Siren

[keen sable]

you get the He for free unless you scrapped it because blue

[brisk dragon]

think i have some materials 👀

will check the IB gear boxes

[brisk dragon]

i prolly did ye . if it doesn't ask me for code before i scrap. and it's blue/purple. i don't think twice usually kekw

what boxes do i open? gold? purple?

purple it is. makes the scrapping easier later.

[keen sable]

it's impoosible for blue gear to drop from a gold box

[brisk dragon]

i think maybe i can skip the blue planes part if purple ones are droppable

i thought*

[eternal basalt]

Ah right, purple only craftable

[brisk dragon]

ye ok

been like 3 or 4 years i didn't open purple boxes kekw

how much i do need of those He?

[eternal basalt]

1 per

[brisk dragon]

are the final planes used often?

for many ships?

[eternal basalt]

I use on Graf Zepelin

[brisk dragon]

kinda like " a standard build" stuff?

[eager mulch]

timing sidegrade

[brisk dragon]

aah ok i won't go crazy then. i only saw them in the META fleet guide

[dusk sparrow]

in terms of how useful, which is a better pick? yuudachi or laffey 2?

[keen sable]

Laffii by far

[dusk sparrow]

ty

[river shadow]

so I have a question, beyond the daily raid for the books, is there anyway I can farm up atk books easily? I have almost 1k def books and somewhere from 300-400 sup books, but in the course of beefing up my docks so I can go and create better fleets I've gotten down to less than 100 atk books, and with every ship left (I'm on cl's, and have dd's left) having an atk skill that needs upgraded, and I want to make sure I have enough so I don't have to go back one at a time and check which one's I need to upgrade later when I finally get more at a later point

[eternal basalt]

You can use the wrong book, just less xp

[forest palm]

Red will always be in high demand, followed by yellow, and least of all blue

[river shadow]

I mean... yeah that is an option, but the efficiency of using the wrong book compared to the right book.....

[river shadow]

I've noticed that a lot....

[brisk dragon]

something is still better than nothing if u're that desperate

speaking of skill books. how often do we get that free instant finishes thing?

[river shadow]

for the ships?

[normal crane]

For operation siren how many fleets do i need?

[eager mulch]

1-4

[river shadow]

oh wait you said the skill books, nvm, I think those are event based

[half plover]

do you guys level ships to lvl 70 for mlb at 9-1 or rather exp pack them

ooh

[inland shoal]

I just don't have ships at <lvl 70

[half plover]

meanwhile I am running random low ships because I dont have exp packs lmao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531580595608748064/1232104050246549544/image.png?ex=66283dd0&is=6626ec50&hm=53de8600d2f53ec31ad5b85f456bd8af5eba64bb115fdd827c3e849f9540b054&

[inland shoal]

But yeah to a certain threshold I'd pack or dorm them, lvling from 1 is very annoying

[opaque yacht]

what blue gear should i NOT scrap

[half plover]

I started with iron blood but they are unhappy already so I just slot in random ships

[inland shoal]

The stuff not in /equip -> safe to scrap

[eager mulch]

let ships sit in dorm, leveling fleet makes books, store books for portrait frames, rinse repeat

[half plover]

ooh

I forgot that leveling ships make books, I thought it is just passive over time

[eager mulch]

by the time leveling fleet is 120, I’d have a bunch of books and the next wave is ready to be leveled

[half plover]

what do you mean by portrait frames

so now that I got laffey and unicorn to 120 I should put them out for other ships?

[inland shoal]

Events where you have to mlb everyone for a frame, need to get to lvl 70 for mlb

[soft raft]

only if they're lvl 100+

[forest palm]

and it's precisely because of this that it makes it fine to use the wrong book for a skill, especially for ships you'll be using

[eager mulch]

I just stopped skilling ships in total

[elfin hollow]

Is the triple 381mm gun mount good?

[inland shoal]

Not often, whenever there's a new server basically

[eager mulch]

very minimal improvement over the MK6 when +13

[inland shoal]

I too love to use my ships with skills lvl 1, just not enough of a challenge otherwise

[river shadow]

I wish the drop chances reflected the weight of the skills of each type, that way we wouldn't get a mountain of books that are barely going to be used....

[half plover]

would it be alright to use shouhou + volga as cv healers so I can slot out unicorn and maybe z23 for laffey?

since they are both 120

[eager mulch]

sure

[fickle scarab]

Yukikaze mechanic?

[eager mulch]

happy birthday, she periodically summons balls, balls heal yukikaze and themselves if not nuked

I hear a soyuz with 199 reload is juiced for it

[opaque yacht]

whats an accelerator gun

[eager mulch]

AA gun with very fast reload, below .8s iirc

[soft raft]

AA gun with low reload time
Primarily used on ships with low AA efficency to lower overall AA reload time but it's a fairly niche strat that gives minimal benefit

The only accelerators you'd realistically use besides the UR AA are Haze and STAAG but mainly as HIT stat for backliners

[fickle scarab]

Thank you, again periodical heal? So rld sync

199 rld with what gun?

[worldly pewter]

1k+ electronics and u don't have a junker ?

[eager mulch]

soyuz with 199 reload takes out all the balls, adjust her reload with tech and autoloaders

[fickle scarab]

199 rld with mk6 or mk7?

[eager mulch]

7

[brisk dragon]

how to get rid of those?

[fickle scarab]

Ok, thanks, will come back if lag screws me over like the uni adjust one

[eager mulch]

use them to enhance other augs

[fickle scarab]

Enchance other augment with em

[brisk dragon]

i think i crafted few things when system was released. crafted 1 or 2 more things a year later. never touched again

[soft raft]

[brisk dragon]

no need to be surprised. game's pretty chill. just get some overleveled girls and u basically good to go

[worldly pewter]

how can u overlevel 130 enemy though ?

[brisk dragon]

ah ez. i dont fight them kekw

[fickle scarab]

Does this stack over the cap? If so we are getting paid enough bulins

[soft raft]

it doesnt count towards the 5k cap

[fickle scarab]

So high prio, thx

[brisk dragon]

how to get twin 134 ? AA gun

[forest palm]

gear lab

[brisk dragon]

ty

[elfin hollow]

I got a few questions on what specific gold guns i should use for these ship girls

[viscid swift]

same situationally dependent options as all BBs

[elfin hollow]

Which is?

[elfin hollow]

Brunhilde soyuz vanguard sovietsky

[fickle scarab]

199 rld including buffs right?

[elfin hollow]

Like give me a list of gold guns at least

[soft raft]

406 MLE (Or IJN Triple 410 for Musashi) for anti-medium/heavy
American 406 Mk6 (Or 406 Mk7 if you have it) for anti-light
Twin 457 or IJN Twin 410 for mobbing

That's like the entire relevant list

[viscid swift]

I assume you're using them for bossing so the guns I said the other day
Mk6 for light armor and the Champaign Gun for medium and heavy armor

[elfin hollow]

Soviestky the only mobbing

[viscid swift]

I doubt you have 457s so an Mk6 then

[elfin hollow]

Mk6?

[viscid swift]

does not get more cookie cutter than this

[viscid swift]

the purple gun shown above

[forest palm]

black & white shells would be more cookie cutter

[viscid swift]

would they, I feel radar is more default to avoid 20 second shields and what not in OpSi

[forest palm]

I feel B&W Shells are the most basic form of cookie cutter, whether it translates that well to specific bits of content is a more of a milage may vary type of argument

[viscid swift]

sure but would the benefits of the Black shell over a fire control radar be necessarily tangential in most contexts, vs the fire control radar which when relevant very much is

[forest palm]

listen I get your argument, but I'll see B&W as the most basic aux combo you can give a BB

[worldly pewter]

isn't it more of a situational gear rather than a default ?

[viscid swift]

obviously, just a little tangent on which is used more often

I honestly can't remember the last time I actually ran double shells on a BB

[worldly pewter]

i never used another combination from the double shell

[sweet delta]

i remember it like it was today

[verbal mulch]

I haven’t used double shell in a long time

[worldly pewter]

so that means endgamers don't use BBs for mobbing ?

[south sequoia]

How did you pick that up from the convo?

[forest palm]

even in mobbing we use Shell + Radar

[worldly pewter]

as far as i understand the usage of gear is that reload is more oriented towards bossing where timing is relevant

[viscid swift]

Staggering your main fleet is very relevant in late game mobbing

[worldly pewter]

i don't know what staggering mean

[forest palm]

desync

[viscid swift]

It's the opposite syncing

[worldly pewter]

can u tell me why staggering is relevant in endgame mobbing ?

[forest palm]

it's like putting all your eggs in one basket, it's not necessarily good to do so

[worldly pewter]

so risking salvos to go in vain ?

[viscid swift]

If you waste all your main fleet attacks by having them hit water from previous attack killing them

[worldly pewter]

[viscid swift]

Enemies stay on screen for that much longer and your fleet in turn takes more damage

[forest palm]

basically it's the same reason we dislike stacking pre-loads

[viscid swift]

And things just cascade from there

And in W14 and W15 not killing a wave fast enough can mean death for your fleet

[worldly pewter]

so sacrificing some potential raw damage in favor of not wasting it totally

[rapid grail]

its either your ships kill them first, or your ships get killed by the enemy

[forest palm]

that's...off base...

[rapid grail]

just like the HSFCR skill is

great gear ngl

[atomic abyss]

Aquila+VV already reran right?

So we're waiting for them to be archived?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[soft raft]

if they stick to the original order, it should be the next in line to be archived

[desert tapir]

Sorry to bother everyone. My friend Lokal is once again asking me to once again help gear a fleet despite me saying over over to do the levels one at a time.
I could, and probably should, pull up the guids and walk then through the steps, but this hurts me and I am hoping someone has a quick set up.
Yes I'm trying to pass the buck, and yes I'm only kinda sorry.

[viscid swift]

So is this just for leveling/farming or

[desert tapir]

Affection farming.
Edit: which they have been doing with out gear at all which is why I dont want to spend a lot of time on it. It hurts my soul

[silver lintel]

Aquila gonna get rate up when shes archived or smth?

[viscid swift]

nope

we're finally caught up on WAs no more rate ups

[silver lintel]

How am I gonna get her then

💀💀💀

[viscid swift]

that should do it

[viscid swift]

praying and/or wishing well

[orchid heath]

Guys, is 9-1 best exp farm map before world 11?

[desert tapir]

You are an absolute peach. A maid and a scholar. Daisy. Thank you thank you thank you. Back to my book with me

[sweet delta]

Divergent chessboard D4 in war archive

[orchid heath]

Got it!, thanks for helping

[modern depot]

What is the point of pushing the story mode aside from the story and completion? I'm at 12-4 and can push further but I haven't not sure why

[sweet delta]

one time rewards like gems, farmable ships, better chip farming efficiency, the right to flex, and the right to help other people with hard content

[worldly pewter]

a purpose to play

[ivory crown]

whats like the daily grind for mid game? i just cleared 9-4 and im not sure where to go from here. im kind of fixing my gears but not really

[sweet delta]

chapter 12

[plain saffron]

do all in daily missions tab, use AP in opsi and do 2 + 3 daily META fights(optional)

[ivory crown]

all 200?

[plain saffron]

yes, just click auto repeat though(assuming you already secured all zones that month)

or do daily misssion in opsi, this is better

[keen sable]

midgamers have it good. they're still raising primary ships to 120/125 and don't have to use junk.

[quartz wyvern]

I think this was recommended for 15-2. Anything wrong with it, maybe possible upgrades to gear or different ships?

[south sequoia]

Switch out shell for rudder

Ah wait im stupid I thought soyuz was the boss

[main latch]

i just reached chapter 10, and now im feeling the effect of no second fleet can i send a picture of my dock and you guy make 2 fleets ?

[south sequoia]

Everything looks fine, nothing to change here

[south sequoia]

Threads

[quartz wyvern]

Should I avoid 3* nodes until I can safe?

I saved like 20k oil. I think it's time to try and make progress.

[south sequoia]

3* nodes should be safe to do, might just have to watch your backline more carefully since you don't have the luxury of mushi

[quartz wyvern]

Just rub it in.

[novel condor]

In what situation or fleets would you use Radar + White shell compared to double shells?

[atomic abyss]

If you need one of the ships to fire slightly before the others in order to desync them

And also since BB jamming is a thing

[quartz wyvern]

Any reason why the blue staff is recommended on Shinano and can I take her at 123?

[steady beacon]

Also in situations where the enemy (usually boss) has a very high evasion, thereby demanding additional accuracy

[novel condor]

Hoh, also I heard it's better for mob fleets since it allows them to fire fastert
?

[viscid swift]

that should be purple

[atomic abyss]

Yes, it can be used for that too

[viscid swift]

fire control radar is strictly if you need the timing, allowing for desyncing or to help squeeze 4 salvos off like in META fights

[novel condor]

Hmmm noted

[quartz wyvern]

Okay, so, how should I approach clearing? Just use mob on everything until boss shows up?

[viscid swift]

I doubt that fire control radar's hit makes it better than the Black Shell but the difference either way is not significant usually

[atomic abyss]

It can compensate for low luck shipfus

Not by much, but hey might as well improve the odds right

[viscid swift]

honestly sounds a bit cope

hit is valuable but considering the trade offs

[atomic abyss]

Oh it is
I can't think of any remarkably high evasion bosses off the top of my head at least

Too old for this

[steady beacon]

Eh, play however you want
If I'm playing against the Arbiter, I will take increasing my consistency every time

[viscid swift]

only one boss in 15-2 so yeah

[novel condor]

aight ty

[sweet delta]

yes indeed waiting for assault + 3x quick takeoff on arbiter is already enough rng

[sweet delta]

just note that 8% crit rate doesnt apply to barrage, and the barrage on some UR BBs is quite a lot compared to main gun

[torn raft]

how do i get more guild fund?

[steady beacon]

Do your guild contribution missions and guild ops

[quartz wyvern]

Shinano seems to have made a huge difference.

[open jackal]

can i farm this pre w9?

[steady beacon]

If you're able to clear those stages of War Archives, you might as well spend the time advancing the campaign tbqh

[open jackal]

i see, thanks!

[tough rampart]

Anyone know what equips should go on Ulrich off-flag build?

[soft raft]

Literally nothing changes
Except for the obligatory main gun being dependent on enemy armor type

[tough rampart]

ok, is there a thread that shows what equipment I should aim for?

[soft raft]

This works in context of campaign up to W13 (be sure to read the gear notes)
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

You can also do /equip in #bot-spam

[tough rampart]

tysm

[keen sable]

War Archives is the best place to farm before you can do 12.

[abstract marsh]

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[steady beacon]

It does, almost every conceivable thing doubles when you use the logistics plan

[abstract marsh]

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[steady beacon]

Only exceptions off the top of my head are uh... number of data keys used in War Archives and number of map clears for like... missions and stuff

[soft raft]

Treat the plans as essentially doing two runs at once save for counting towards "Do X Y times" missions and data key usage

So every time you roll for a map drop, you do two at once
Note that this also means the negatives are doubled

[steady beacon]

Oh ye, def don't forget that too
Morale drops at the speed of light

[abstract marsh]

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[ivory crown]

how do i get more of these

[steady beacon]

Obtain/MLB/raise to Level 120 USS ships

[atomic abyss]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[atomic abyss]

[steady beacon]

One day I swear I'll remember the commands

[atomic abyss]

I don't either to be fair

[steady beacon]

Iirc you can fish for quite a few USS ships in the guild shop? And a pretty good number drop in campaign as well
That said, even I remember struggling to unlock Anchorage for a short while even after like... three-ish months in the game

[atomic abyss]

Yeah uss ships are easier to get because of how much they drop in maps
Same with ijn

[steady beacon]

Although I suppose back then the guild shop didn't have nearly as many options as now, medal ships couldn't be relied on for anything, and probably something else I'm forgetting

[keen sable]

it saves time

[ivory crown]

any of these worth +8-ing so i can finish my exam 1 uqest

[normal crane]

I just unlocked operation siren, should i just pushing the story? When can i start farming

[novel condor]

Push the story ye

[jaunty vault]

the +6 helldiver too ig

[ivory crown]

who do i pick

[steady beacon]

Do you have any of them yet?

[ivory crown]

nope

[cobalt rapids]

Enterprise

[plain saffron]

who in medal shop

[ivory crown]

sandiego i think

[plain saffron]

if hood in medal shop pick enty, if enty in shop pick hood
if none enty

[quartz wyvern]

Any changes to my fleets for 15-3?

[steady beacon]

Is there a reason you're using the blue Sceptre on Shinano...?

[quartz wyvern]

I'm using a purple. I think it was an error on my recommendations for 15-2.

[steady beacon]

I see
Apart from Level 125, it looks fine enough to me
There's a part of me that wishes there were three IJNs in fleet 2 but not dying is much more important

[quartz wyvern]

I just want Houston II.

[steady beacon]

Fair enough, good luck with that
Apart from praying for favourable RNG there isn't much I'd be inclined to change, at least
Esp since I'm pretty sure I went in with way worse

[torn raft]

for w13 mob should i raise volga or graf zepplin?

[frank pulsar]

volga

[silver lintel]

I went with sara indep uni, volga works for sure

[steady beacon]

Volga, definitely
And not just for W13 mob, but just in general a better use of your resources and a better ship

[silver lintel]

Graf is irrelevant

[frank pulsar]

graf has like 2 fighters, you might as well use sara over graf

[frank pulsar]

if you have musashi shes better than soyuz for w15

[quartz wyvern]

I don't, unfortunately.

Boss retreated and I couldn't clear trash.

[silver lintel]

Finally be able to auto 14-4 without sub, is new jersey a must for w15?

These are all ur bbs i got

[hard mesa]

Those BB could work fine

[rapid grail]

Nah

Fleet looks doable

[quartz wyvern]

What happens when the boss retreats? You need to clear trash?

[graceful meteor]

clear more trash, then boss again

[quartz wyvern]

Damn, these nodes are hard.

I was like this is easy.

[graceful meteor]

it's all easy until 15-4

[steady beacon]

15-3 has two and 15-4 has three bosses; once a boss retreats, clear more mobs until boss reappears

[west stratus]

I've started doing war archives recently. Does 3 starring those levels actually do anything in terms of farming rewards? Or can I just save my currency for more sweeps?

[quartz wyvern]

Damn, I got wrecked bad.

[graceful meteor]

[quartz wyvern]

Not even 60% on the 2nd boss spawn.

[silver lintel]

Is 15-1 better than 14-4 in terms of gold/cog per oil

[graceful meteor]

should be

[jaunty vault]

shouldnt be

i know 14-4 better for coins

[sweet delta]

no/yes

[ivory crown]

wha t does the owned here refer to

[quartz wyvern]

So... Any ideas on how to conquer 15-3?

[jaunty vault]

do /w15 in bot spam

[sweet delta]

You own X out of the 10 blueprints needed to craft one gear

[ivory crown]

i c'

[quartz wyvern]

I don't have like 6 of those ships.

[graceful meteor]

maybe you're not ready yet

[jaunty vault]

what dont you have

[eternal basalt]

Fight the bosses with different fleets

[quartz wyvern]

Plymouth and Brest are close to max. IDK how long before I get Vanguard, Musashi, Yorktown II.

[eternal basalt]

In 15-3 case first is for mob-fleet

And YT2 is def 2025

[jaunty vault]

vanguard can be replaced by soyuz
musashi by biszwei equipped with certificate
as for york2 i think shinano should be fine

[cobalt rapids]

No need for cert on clear

[hard mesa]

prob try have 3 sakura ships on shinano haku formation

[jaunty vault]

3 good sakura ships

[sweet delta]

Shinano and haku are good

[cobalt rapids]

Theres isnt rly a sakura alternative to that vang thats worth slotting for nano buff

[jaunty vault]

just use unzen

[quartz wyvern]

Feels like a total back to the drawing board because I got wrecked bad.

[cobalt rapids]

Idt jdaless vanguard survives on 2 boss for -4

Offhealerless

[jaunty vault]

use it for only one boss

[hard mesa]

[cobalt rapids]

Or mby its not about the ships

[eternal basalt]

Since it-s 15-3 do you keep ASW? Hedgehog?

[jaunty vault]

if youre going 3star lethal you wanna hedge/depth on laff2 and tbm on uni

[eternal basalt]

Just use hedge of laff2, that's enough

[eternal basalt]

It was for me

Not on lethal though, screw that

[jaunty vault]

lel

[plain saffron]

hi

[jaunty vault]

no

[plain saffron]

😔

[shrewd raven]

is it necessary to put the units your trying to level up for pr exp famr in the dorm?

[jaunty vault]

it helps

[shrewd raven]

how?

[sweet delta]

It is highly recommended that your mob fleet for anything is in the dorm

[cobalt rapids]

Xp doesnt contribute but morale recovery good

[jaunty vault]

boosts morale, so you get more exp and can farm longer

morale above 119 gives more exp

[shrewd raven]

oh i meant in the training part of the dorm

[foggy swift]

Is there a way to disable this notification?

[shrewd raven]

so its better on the resting area

[cobalt rapids]

All dorm boosts morale

[crimson glacier]

get rid of coins

[foggy swift]

[shrewd raven]

nani

[cobalt rapids]

First floor is passive xp + morale 2nd floor is more morale but both floor boost recovery

[shrewd raven]

ah

aight ty

[vale spindle]

Consider crafting unique augments if you need a quick coin dump

Its like 21k coins per unique augment

[foggy swift]

I am out of the golden thingies

[shrewd raven]

coin up pr ships?

[foggy swift]

I have everyone fully researched

[jaunty vault]

consider rerolling cats
consider taking up a coin research and cancelling it multiple times

[shrewd raven]

[jaunty vault]

consider buying stuff from shop

[foggy swift]

The only thing I have left is limit breaking and awakening the remaining ships ig but I'm out of cognitive chips

[silver lintel]

Just reroll cats then, can burn millions

[foggy swift]

or right cattery exists

[plain saffron]

time to spam DDG change mode

[jaunty vault]

using macros is against tos

[kind slate]

is proto su-2 good?

[forest palm]

nah

SU-2 is very much bait

[main latch]

is she any good ?

[crimson glacier]

she is good

not like insane but she is good

[main latch]

Good for mob fleet?

[jaunty vault]

not like insane but she is good

[crimson glacier]

idk if id prefer her or hood

she does have better secondaries so thats nice over her

[main latch]

Should i pick up hood from The rookie missions thing ?

[atomic abyss]

As a French BB, they have preloaded salvos at the cost of a main gun mount
So she excels in mobbing

[crimson glacier]

do you have enterprise

[main latch]

yes

[crimson glacier]

except that preload isnt that good on mobbing anymore coz uni is there anyway

if you have enterprise then hood is the obvious pick

[fervent hearth]

Is there any BB fleets for extreme challenge?

[sinful elk]

Chat should i use 2 of my gold bulins for lb enterprise

[elfin hollow]

Ayanami is good ?

[atomic abyss]

She's about as good as any starter

Which is to say, alright but brutally outclassed

[elfin hollow]

Alright ty

[atomic abyss]

She's essentially a worse shimakaze

[terse helm]

Is lil Cheshire worth the dock space

[crisp estuary]

If you are relatively new, ye

[elfin hollow]

No I m unlock

[sullen creek]

Hello unlock

[elfin hollow]

I don’t upgrade on Z23 and Laffery for not 5 star

[crisp wadi]

Depends, some people hate loli so they retire her. But for collection, yes

[crimson glacier]

aya is awful before retro and annoying to use after retro

[plain saffron]

waifu only

aya need manual to be great because torp ship or something

[crimson glacier]

good torp ships dont need manual

[inland shoal]

Though they'll still almost always be better on manual

[crisp estuary]

So do gun ships

[sinful elk]

Chat do i spend my ur bulin on new jersey or wha

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt use them on NJ

[sinful elk]

I lacks main bbs tbh

[inland shoal]

Unless you have a lot of them I'd save for the new UR tbh

[crimson glacier]

and NJ is your only UR BB?

[sinful elk]

Is the new ur gonna be a bb

[inland shoal]

We dunno

[crimson glacier]

we dont know anything about the new UR

[sinful elk]

Correct

[crimson glacier]

the thing is that NJ is pretty much bottom 2 UR BB

[sinful elk]

I have muse gascorge but shes kinda.. not working properly as a bb in my opinion?

[crimson glacier]

she is good ship but you would get a lot more value out of other BBS so might aswell wait

[atomic abyss]

Muse gascogne is just a weird BB in general

[atomic abyss]

This isn't wrong tho

Well with that said I'd go get hood or something

[sinful elk]

Hood in the exam?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[sinful elk]

Some of the mission is quite rough tho

[crimson glacier]

if the next UR isnt something you think you need then i would invest in NJ i suppose

[inland shoal]

I'd try to get Hood or Enty from medal and then get the one I couldn't get from exam

[sinful elk]

I lack nukes so my fleet is pretty much dying on hard modes

[sullen creek]

Enty and NJ are pretty good for that

[sinful elk]

i guess i will train enty and nj at the same time

[winter condor]

something is wrong with my agir in pr i did 10 times map 11-1 with a IB vanguard but didn't gained any exp

from 20% to 20% XD

[oak plaza]

Is there an equipment guide for new-ish players? I really don't have uh, yknow, a whole inventory of gold/rainbow gear

[inland shoal]

I doubt there's sth wrong with it, it just only goes up every 12k exp or whatever it was

[atomic abyss]

Which phase of Agir is this

[plain saffron]

are you in CDC 1 or 2

[atomic abyss]

CDC 1 is IB backline
CDC 2 is IB frontline

[crisp wadi]

Is the main fleet mission maybe

[plain saffron]

12-1 is 1%+ per round so something most likely wrong

[winter condor]

welp each ship gains between 1500-2800 exp on each battle they fight 5 times so 3X1500 (lets go to the lower) = 4500 x 5 = 22500 x 10 = 225000 exp from 1,2m who needs

[atomic abyss]

Yeah

1.2 million

You've been using the wrong ships

Agir's 1.2 million phase is IB backliners/main fleet, not frontliners/vanguard

[hard mesa]

[plain saffron]

.

[winter condor]

i doubt they are iron blood and used them also to unlock groebe

[crisp wadi]

Yeah, you should use IB backline

[atomic abyss]

Yeah it's supposed to be IB Backline
FDG is backline only

[crisp wadi]

FdG

[atomic abyss]

But yeah dude, you're using the wrong ships

[winter condor]

oh i see when i read main fleet i thinked of team 1 XD

[atomic abyss]

Agir cdc phase 1 (1.2mil exp) is Ironblood main fleet/backline
Agir cdc phase 2 (2.4 mil exp) is Ironblood vanguard/frontline

[winter condor]

nvm

[inland shoal]

Thought you meant 10 encounters not 10 full sorties...though even then with 3 ships that'd probably be a percent

[atomic abyss]

Thorin we alr settled it

Guy was using the wrong ships

[inland shoal]

Well ig this thing includes budget options at least https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

Yes

Unless you count ARs

[teal monolith]

is there a mob in the arbiter hard map that i can fight to remove the low resolve debuff?

[inland shoal]

No

[teal monolith]

thanks

[main latch]

Should i be buying these before every reset?

[inland shoal]

Imo yes, but if you're new you might have higher priorities do buy before

[main latch]

Okay what about the specialized core should that be the focus here to along side gold bulin?

[inland shoal]

Yeah I'd say it comes right after gold bulin now

[atomic abyss]

[inland shoal]

Ofc only if you need it

[atomic abyss]

Where do I get ddg missiles from

[inland shoal]

core data

[atomic abyss]

Ofc it is

I can only get one aaaa

[crimson glacier]

how many DDGs can you need at once

[thorny surge]

There's only 3 ddg in the game if I'm not mistaken

Honestly they're strong enough on their own rights so u necessarily needn't sortie all three of them together

But if you're using tai yuan , use her on a full fleet

And the other 2 , u can run them together or all 3 ddg together if u want the buff they provide to each other which isn't that important

[oak plaza]

same class too iirc

[thorny surge]

Yea

[wintry obsidian]

Which one is tougher in the off-tank position: Marseillaise or Duca degli Abruzzi?

[grizzled inlet]

There any way to buff air strike RLD?, to sync helena radar scan

[oak plaza]

isnt helena radar scan literally chance-based

[thorny surge]

Yea

[oak plaza]

how do you sync RNG lol

[grizzled inlet]

Is bad

[thorny surge]

You'll have better chance playing on manual if you wanna sync

[atomic abyss]

Crossfleet buff with indep

Cats

Or well, faster planes

[plain saffron]

the time it proc is not rng, you sync to that

[atomic abyss]

There's a reason why people don't usually use carriers with Helena...
It's cos of the pain of timing

[atomic abyss]

I'm using 2 with yat for Harbin grind
Unfortunately no TY so have to use CC and AS

[grizzled inlet]

But if helena work with CV it do way more dmg than BB

[steady beacon]

Tech, too
But it def isn't a quick road to 80 RLD, I'll say that much

[hard mesa]

prob by not using sg radar

[grizzled inlet]

Oh

[steady beacon]

Wait, wait, you were using SG Helena?

[hard mesa]

or in case haku and shina, bring nagato

[plain saffron]

cv can sync easy if you have enough fleet tech(and probably with current gear too?), and usually helena in BB fleet that's why she's not in CV fleet for opsi
And people hate rng

[grizzled inlet]

Nagato is a option?

[plain saffron]

what is this for?

[atomic abyss]

CV has better frontline buffers ye

[atomic abyss]

It's easy to forget that her buffs are ridiculously potent, as bad as she is

[plain saffron]

for what content?

[hard mesa]

either have high rld(from tech stat or buff) or use susei bomber

[atomic abyss]

The current top comp for RodM is Nagato Shinano Hakuryu after all

But that's more of a timing thing

[plain saffron]

in current time i only see nagato in specific META/boss fight

[wintry obsidian]

Don't forget Kazagumo for her carrier dmg buffs

[plain saffron]

outside of that, bcs of timing, musashi is better

[south sequoia]

Nagatos buffs are always great, just is hard to justify using her since every boss knows how to unfortunately move every second

[atomic abyss]

...well there's also soyuz

Soyuz does have a CV buff somewhere in there too

[south sequoia]

Bismarcks cv buffs would be nuts... problem is she has no rainbows to pair up with

[grizzled inlet]

For RLD CV

[steady beacon]

No, what are you using this fleet to fight

[hard mesa]

nagato can be used to get around invincibility shield on some opsi boss

[plain saffron]

or just use BB fleet

[wintry obsidian]

I've seen some guys use Painleve on W15, but why?

[oak plaza]

wait what do people farm 6-4 for

[plain saffron]

tbh idk and this is the first time i heard of it

[grizzled inlet]

Yuudachi

[steady beacon]

Healer I suppose, but uh...

[wintry obsidian]

I wouldn't. 1 fast CVL with anti-sub planes is a must on 15-3 for me. And Painleve's damage is minimal

[frank pulsar]

painleve is like, one of your last options for healing in w15
pretty sure even perseus is better

[plain saffron]

might be waifu reasons

[steady beacon]

Ye, possible
That's how I justified my second healer

[plain saffron]

that's how i justify saratoga in every single fleet

[steady beacon]

Also, crap, was I meant to bring antisub planes in W15...
Dear me
I guess for all my complaints, Hammann really did work miracles...

[wintry obsidian]

I used Brest intead on Agir on W15. She has that little heal and every little bit helps

[crimson glacier]

pretty sure brest is just all around better than agir in w15 anyway

[steep merlin]

Just got maya how is she?

[crimson glacier]

bad

[steep merlin]

Nice

[ashen jay]

I am new to the game..which one should I pick? Or it doesn’t matter?

[rapid grail]

what's quick and dirty priority for +13 guns?

[inland shoal]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[rapid grail]

doesn't matter lol, choose whoever you like. ot's just like starter pokemon

[plain saffron]

waifu, if no waifu z23

[inland shoal]

There's slight differences, but just choose who you like most

[ashen jay]

Okie thanks guys ^^

[rapid grail]

curious why z23 though, what's the difference

[plain saffron]

slightly better than the rest, she's more to gun dd

[atomic abyss]

Z23 is the best pre retro ye

[vale apex]

is roon good

at dev 15

[atomic abyss]

Roon is meh, even at dev 30 fs5

[vale apex]

:(

[atomic abyss]

The only use for roon now is for fleet tech to unlock FDG and Agir

[vale apex]

should i unlock the other pr 1 ships as well

[atomic abyss]

She's worse than her muse counterpart
Loses quite badly to Heinrich, Adalbert and especially Carl

There's not really anyone in PR1 worth unlocking at this point

[vale apex]

i mean i still use portland in my mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

I mean, Roon is comparable to Portland Kai so...

[vale apex]

but like do i not unlock them or unlock them

[vale apex]

is kai retrofit

[atomic abyss]

There's no reason to, not when you have other PRs to do

[vale apex]

i cant do other prs since no tech points

do i unlock the pr1s until i get the tech points

[atomic abyss]

Not worth to sink in the coins, the retrofit BP and the cubes to unlock them

[rapid grail]

yep, that is a term from kancolle to refer to upgraded versions of ship (roughly speaking)

[vale apex]

oh alright

[atomic abyss]

At that point, you're better off just working to get your ships ready

[vale apex]

so now i just wait till i get fleet tech right?

[silver lintel]

Gotta get +2 hit and rld tech from gascan and champy

[delicate lance]

6CRH Shells only works if BB uses AP gun?

[steady beacon]

No, extra effect only works if equipped by an HMS BB/BC/BM; works with any gun

[trim path]

should i bother 3 starring maps or just push to world 12?

[south sequoia]

If you're at w11 you can just probably 3 star maps and then do whatever

[trim path]

ok

[delicate lance]

Is there like a worded guide on AA guns

I get confused by listening to YT people

[south sequoia]

Your first mistake is looking up to youtube for the guides

[delicate lance]

That is why i am asking

[noble wyvern]

renown good or no?

[south sequoia]

Other than that, what exactly about anti air guns do you need help with?

Do you need help on what guns are good and how they function?

[south sequoia]

Nope

[noble wyvern]

hm ok

[open jackal]

what's TRP? and how will i increase it?

[delicate lance]

I heard that high efficiency ships uses high damage AA guns

While low efficiency ships uses fast reload AA guns

Is it true

[delicate lance]

trp is torpedo stats

[nimble dome]

guys how do i get tb to have the model ending?

[south sequoia]

Yep yep, shps with good/great AA should be the ones carrying high damage aa guns
meanwhile ships with worser AA should be carrying faster AA guns in order to support the ships with the better AA to reload their guns faster

[uncut patrol]

i am seething over this challenge mode rn anyone got any good layouts?

[south sequoia]

50 - 55 rld make sure you have cats

[uncut patrol]

does this work on auto or only manual also does this work with some 10+ gear since i don't have the gold plates for 13+ rainbow

[rapid grail]

50-55 rld
total rld stat from fleet tech and cats?

[south sequoia]

yep

[south sequoia]

works on auto, it also works with some 10+ gear but don't expect world breaking times

what matters is you get the timings and rld right

[uncut patrol]

don't need just need the frame 😀

also my kearsarge isn't max limitbreak

[rapid grail]

kekpat, asking fgo advice in alo gph

[brisk dragon]

how much dmg do i need to do to a lvl 15 META boss to deal over 50% dmg ?

[south sequoia]

I'm afraid I have nothing more to give maybe can wait around for others to provide other lay outs

[whole crypt]

this month's CM is best solved with a 20s Soyuz

[whole crypt]

50% of 1.15m... unless you're asking how to do 575k.

[worldly pewter]

u increase it by putting a secondary fleet

[brisk dragon]

ty

[toxic iris]

can i get her after beating the stage 60 times? if so, why is there no counter?

[inner delta]

if no counter then it's not possible to get her from that

[toxic iris]

then i can't get her? the event probably won't rerun anymore lol

[inner delta]

it's in build

[toxic iris]

oh ok i thought it was only during her event lol never mind, thanks

[plain saffron]

during og run you don't get her from stage drop, but gacha or missions

[toxic iris]

yeah but wiki says you can get them from war archives after 60

[uncut patrol]

@south sequoia YAY I DID IT IT WORKED

[inner delta]

nah, it only say add to build

[toxic iris]

well might as well wait for it to be added to guild shop then lol

[inner delta]

or that yes

[whole crypt]

we don't know if she'll be added to shops, or when that will happen, or which shop

[plain saffron]

they mentioned it will be added to guild later on when CN/JP gets it

then EN also gets it but no news so they prob forgot

[harsh cargo]

How do I remove a ship from all places so it can be sent on commissions without having to open menu and click on it?

[inland shoal]

You don't

[whole crypt]

check hard mode every chapter

[plain saffron]

choose her to retire. but don't click retire

[harsh cargo]

Jfc

[inland shoal]

Wait that works?

[plain saffron]

should be, unless i misremembering. let me go test

nvm it doesn't work now

[south sequoia]

[plain saffron]

instead of asking to remove, then add to list. it add to list and remove + retire at same time

[south sequoia]

Is the CL main gun in the craft section a mistranslation since it also includes CA guns?

[plain saffron]

actual TL is small/medium/large caliber

CN and JP uses that, only EN is weird

[whole crypt]

no idea why EN chose to go with specific hull classes that don't cover all the guns

[plain saffron]

that's why CB in BB guns

[harsh cargo]

This did it! Thankfully you only need to clear the setup for one of the stages per chapter

[plain saffron]

now use your mod powers to fix it

[inland shoal]

More like no idea why they made no separate filters for CA and CB anyway

[plain saffron]

why would you separate large caliber and large caliber

prob because space

or to let people know what gun count as large caliber for skills

[inland shoal]

And that's why they lump CA with CL guns? And CB with BB?

[plain saffron]

nice EN TL

idk about CA and CL but CB is put in high caliber filter is not wrong

new UI will fix the filter trust

[noble wyvern]

gremyash and marble head good?

[inland shoal]

No

[noble wyvern]

hm k

[normal crane]

What to do when the catch up already 150/150

[plain saffron]

do research normally. or change to available ones if there's any

[fickle scarab]

Change catchup to another one that's not done, if all done then wait till next catchup is out

[brisk dragon]

what's the recommended emu for AL ?

[normal crane]

That was my first complete for Friedrich, should i go for anchorage since i almost develop her?

[wary hawk]

Been using LDPlayer since Mumu stopped supporting priconne, never had any complaints

[brisk dragon]

LD9?

[wary hawk]

Ya

[plain saffron]

depends on your pc really. best way is to test all and keep most performance ones

[eternal basalt]

It's been saying that since JP years ago... I think Manjuu forgot

September 1st 2022: U-110 will be added to the Guild Shop in a future update.
Almost 2 years later now

[whole crypt]

your mileage may vary, I've not had problems with bluestacks

[warm flax]

What's special about this?

[whole crypt]

not much besides AA

[eternal basalt]

Can be upgraded to a better plane.

[warm flax]

better aa than flapjack or pretty much relevant?

[tame orchid]

So what do you do if you accidentally send a bulin on a commission

[plain saffron]

in w15 flapjack better

just wait or cancel it

[tame orchid]

She's level 2 now

Can i still use her to LB

[plain saffron]

no

[blissful hamlet]

what is coin hard cap 300k or 600k?

[tame orchid]

Fuck, there goes my UR bulin

[plain saffron]

600

[eternal basalt]

yes, flip the lvl 1 button

[tame orchid]

Time to cry

[blissful hamlet]