gameplay-help

[plain saffron]

i don't think that's my point but whatever

[stable badger]

i wanna filter them out. for tactic class, and fleet creating though. not filter in

[hard mesa]

still works in those

[plain saffron]

also again not all of them are bad when they're released
people compare ship released in 2020 with 2024 ships of course it will look shit

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I didn't know this filter existed, neat to learn

[whole crypt]

RooM wasn't bad for a while yeh

[hard mesa]

Filtered in class

[plain saffron]

they want to filter them out

[whole crypt]

he wants to get rid of muse ships

[stable badger]

Roon, Gascogne, Taskent and Le malin are all better then their normal counterparts

[whole crypt]

Gascogne OG is better

[hard mesa]

Uh... retire?

[plain saffron]

back in my day you need akagi muse to one shot some boss 🧓

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething "I must have 100%"

[hard mesa]

[whole crypt]

to be fair retiring the ships won't affect your collection % but whatever

[plain saffron]

also why not just ask for muse filter instead of changing faction

or even better pls add invert filter

[jaunty vault]

add both

[stable badger]

so, just add them to the Misc faction/filter?

[whole crypt]

yeh invert filters would be nice

[whole crypt]

that won't work gameplay wise because they still retain their original factions

[plain saffron]

add under extra instead

[whole crypt]

and they're not going to take them out of their original factions

[stable badger]

thing is, most Muse ships, synergies off being in fleets with other Muse ships. i get that Akagi muse is still Sakura but, we already have Aux. items that "force" changes to make other factions into Muse or ninjas from colab

[plain saffron]

muse are not actual faction

[whole crypt]

they're not an entire seperate faction tag like METAs

[plain saffron]

faction filter checks for faction id, which won't work on muse
extra is more custom, all muse have muse tag so it's doable

[noble wyvern]

what to do with many oil in the mail?

[plain saffron]

keep them until needed

[whole crypt]

save it until you need it

[stable badger]

okay. "new" fiter. CLONES. that can include metas, muse, children, II's, and the originals

[noble wyvern]

k

[noble wyvern]

i should not spent it on war archives?

[plain saffron]

the "extra" is there why you need "new"

[paper mural]

Is there a hard cap for Oil?

[whole crypt]

war archives is meh unless you're using it to push clv

[plain saffron]

25k

WA for ship for fleet tech or waifu

[stable badger]

pff. i have 140 mails with around 2k oil in each. it's not a problem

they will never disappear

[whole crypt]

I use mine regularly so I'm at around 40

there is a cap on mail but you're not even close with 140... plus mailbox revamp coming soon anyway

[noble wyvern]

oh they do not disappear?

(140 mails?-)

[whole crypt]

you only lose mail if you go over 1000

[stable badger]

i only use it during events. in down time i spend it all then stop playing, or go into OP siren until i restock

[paper mural]

So no rewards you claim through the mail ever disappear?

[whole crypt]

mail will never expire unless it explicitly says it does

[stable badger]

i have yet to see a mail that expired. or say it will

[viscid swift]

Which has happened precisely once

[whole crypt]

they're rather rare, yes

[jaunty vault]

what was it

[whole crypt]

I don't think I've ever had to open mail for events in the past few years, it's mostly PR grind

[viscid swift]

No clue

[frosty ore]

Should I change my Nagato for Izumo?

[noble wyvern]

bro i wouldn't even last that long to have over 1000-

[tame orchid]

I opened my mail today cause i ran out of coins and needed that 100 exp dairies for hood,lol

[winter condor]

agir (dmg and waifu) and anchorage (tank)

[compact latch]

was wondering something about collection
it say i have 704 but if i got into my dock i have 679
and since i try to have all of the collection inside the dock if there are some ship that don't count torward dock, or if some ship "count double" for example the one with retrofit 1 for normal and a second for the retrofit ver ?

[whole crypt]

there are people who can go over 1k, like if you buy trade license every month and don't collect for like 2-3 years

[pure geode]

retrofits gets a seperate entry

[stable badger]

retro is double

[whole crypt]

they're both meh and you probably have a better BB otherwise

[compact latch]

ho okay that why the count is off.

[whole crypt]

if you're out of coins grind for coins first, then open mail for oil

[pure geode]

with the changes they're introducing to mails you might want to still save it btw since u get to choose what you wana claim from it

[whole crypt]

otherwise you just get stuck with oil hardcap if you have to push for it

[frosty ore]

Amagi, Kaga (BB) and Owari

[noble wyvern]

trade license? (im guessing the people that can go over 1k is def a end game player )

[stable badger]

oh, and they DID say they'll add a feature to store all the oil and coins from mails. donno if it's going to be in a month or in august though

[whole crypt]

Amagi is already better than those 2, but Owari is definitely much better

[crisp wadi]

Bro my dumbass would be bothered if I see red number in mail

[frosty ore]

Okay so I set up Owari, thanks

[plain saffron]

iirc by CN anni with ui updates
source: dev note

[crisp wadi]

It's the monthly card I think

[whole crypt]

by the sound of it I'd expect it around CN anniversary

[noble wyvern]

let alone discord ping

[noble wyvern]

monthly card?

[crisp wadi]

The things when you pay real money to get daily cube and coin, is there oil too?

[viscid swift]

All retrofits are treated as separate ships for the purposes of collection, the only ships that don't count towards collection rate are collab ships

[noble wyvern]

oh didnt know it existed

[tame orchid]

Im waiting to hit chapter 6, chapter 7 guzzles oil and isnt really that great for farming

[noble wyvern]

1k yen?-

[crisp wadi]

Around 6-7 dollar, cmiiw

[noble wyvern]

i see (my currency isnt dollars but i can search it in google)

[stable badger]

7.99$

[whole crypt]

I'm on JP, but you should have something similar on your interface

[tame orchid]

Altho im stuck at chap 7 since gotta get to commander level 60

[compact latch]

okay so if want to how much i don't have in my dock i should remove the number of collab and bulin in my dock and remove the retrofit from the collection.

[noble wyvern]

oh your jp

[crisp wadi]

What's your currency?

[noble wyvern]

why getting to lvl 60 is connected to you getting stuck at chap 7

[tame orchid]

Because its a requirement for chap 8

[crisp wadi]

There's level requirements

[tame orchid]

Commander level 60

[noble wyvern]

it says 7.99$ on my blue stack but i would say its Rupiah

[wind hazel]

the trading license give you 510gems in japan version?

[tame orchid]

Azur lane doesnt have localised currencies.

Your app store will convert it to your currency though

[noble wyvern]

extra 10 gems for jp fr

[plain saffron]

it depends on whatever google converts too

[whole crypt]

apparently, I think it was part of some price adjustments a couple years back because exchange rates and stuff

[wind hazel]

i'll never forgive the japanese

[whole crypt]

I haven't bought license for a while, I just buy cruise pass and direct gems

[noble wyvern]

should i buy the free weekly package?

[tame orchid]

Uh should i wait till chap 9 for farming or farm chap 2 or smth

[crisp wadi]

Then it's around 130k idr

[whole crypt]

the free weekly pack is free, just get it every week

[plain saffron]

isn't it also more expensive per gems or something

like it's 10 more gems but also more expensive

[whole crypt]

push to ch9
if you're capped by commander level go grind some WA with oilcap instead

[tame orchid]

Oh right those existed

[whole crypt]

shrug the rates aren't exact between JP and EN
CN is much cheaper anyway, if you can pay for it

[tame orchid]

Polaris first, right?

[noble wyvern]

close 120.9k

[whole crypt]

Polaris is easiest, if you can push harder then go for it

in part of being the easiest it also has low oil cap and low bonus rates

[tame orchid]

Which do you recommend? Most of my fleet is above level 90

[whole crypt]

90 is enough to run D1 on most events

[noble wyvern]

should i buy the weekly package even means going over oil cap?

[compact latch]

also was wondering what should i do my 1000+ t3 tech pack and specialized core ?

[tame orchid]

3 ships above lv 100

[whole crypt]

then spend your oil

if you don't claim the pack you just lose all of the resources since it's weekly

[crisp wadi]

. How much your oil right now?

[frosty ore]

If I exped retrofit just for collection, like rare and common ones, should I sell?

[noble wyvern]

4029 (max 5200)

[whole crypt]

get pack, spend oil, if can't spend in time buy curry

[crisp wadi]

Yeah that's why why I'm never buy it, dollar to rupiah is bad

[noble wyvern]

by how? repeat on my last stage many times

[sinful elk]

Currently f2p but i can spend some if really needed

[whole crypt]

just repeat until you're out of morale, if it's still too much oil buy curry

[noble wyvern]

why is bad?

[whole crypt]

if you don't claim the pack you lose everything else it gives

[crisp wadi]

That's how you play this game

[noble wyvern]

curry?

[whole crypt]

dorm food

[sinful elk]

I repeated 6-4 21 times already and still unable to reach commander lvl 50 is this a game issue or skill issue

[worldly pewter]

usually they advise player to pile the pity through the daily light construction
and never touch the heavy and special without any event banner going on

[crisp wadi]

Because I'm using rupiah too, and 7,99 $ it's too expensive for me

[noble wyvern]

oh ok (should i contunie to to 3* every stage i come by currently at 5-4)

[umbral briar]

there is a lot of xp required and just doing 21x is not enough

[wind hazel]

just keep doing that with full fleet

[noble wyvern]

yeah over 100k too many (are you indo or american confused as hell )

[whole crypt]

3-starring normal stages gives you gems
you'll want to do it, but you don't have to do it now, up to you

[crisp wadi]

I mean if your ships can push, just do it. Or farm for commander level

[sinful elk]

My brain suddenly pop up this image whenever i do the builds

[noble wyvern]

my ships can push them easily (just using combat auto cus lazy and they dont take too many dmg and deal many dmg )

[worldly pewter]

it is actually neither
because now it is kinda of a dead period u won't be grinding events to increase the commander level thus u will be stuck in campaign or war archive

[noble wyvern]

go big or go home intensifies

[worldly pewter]

this is a pure gamble system without pity though

[whole crypt]

go big is a lie, gambler's fallacy and sunken cost fallacy are actual things

[sinful elk]

Its not like kron and all the cvs drink 6k oils like nothing

[south sequoia]

Please avoid posting random off topic images thanks

[sinful elk]

Okay sorry

[wind hazel]

thought i suggested to not use Kron

[sinful elk]

Well i did replace her with portland but the performance is quite rough

[noble wyvern]

i guess there is a rule about that?

[wind hazel]

are they dying?

[sinful elk]

a lot

[worldly pewter]

his dps is going through his kron alone

[sinful elk]

I tried to place kron setup on portland but meh

[south sequoia]

There is no off topic images and memes and conversations

[crisp wadi]

Ofc, this is gameplay-help.

[noble wyvern]

set/invest on her then

[wind hazel]

stick portland to dorm then, and suffer through burning the oil until your portland stops dying

[south sequoia]

Is portland within the same levels as kronk?

[worldly pewter]

can make a thread in which u post in it all ur ships and gear including the equipped one ?

[inland shoal]

Rules are in the pins, gotta scroll down quite far tho

[sinful elk]

15 lvl diff

But hey almost done retrofiting port it just the part where T3 blueprint left

[tame orchid]

Where is polaris in war archives

[wind hazel]

SP tab

[crisp wadi]

SP

[sinful elk]

So do i just continue doing 6-4 nonstop

[south sequoia]

Yep

[wind hazel]

more or less

[south sequoia]

Not like you have anything else to farm or do

[sinful elk]

This is so painful 😭

[wind hazel]

💳 lv70 pack

[tame orchid]

Maybe farm WA?

[south sequoia]

If they struggle with 6-4 I doubt they can confidently farm polaris

Maybe if portland is finished

[oak plaza]

I remember there being a ship tier list but is there a retrofit priority list?

[sinful elk]

I can polaris with my full fleet but it cost like 350 oils per run

[wind hazel]

unicorn>the rest

[south sequoia]

Unicorn > Portland > Starter > Nelson > Indepkai > Sarakai > The rest

[tame orchid]

Me running chap 7 cost 1250 oil per run 💀

[umbral briar]

Yes, that's because stages below 9 don't have an oil cap

[tame orchid]

Yeah ik, so farming WA is better

[sinful elk]

What does polaris give like everyone tells me to farm it alot

[south sequoia]

The ddgs and ur ship priority in terms of retrofit is a bit hard to say considering they require the spending of cores

[tame orchid]

Exp and coins mainly

[south sequoia]

And it's not like their addition to your fleet will upgrade your fleet by 101%

[umbral briar]

Very nice farm place I guess? with an oil cap of 22 maybe if you look at the previous event

[tame orchid]

Also, if thats the case why do you farm 6-4? Reason for farming polaris is cause its easy and has an oil cap, you cant use too much

[oak plaza]

Ok I've done the first 3
Who's Indep

[tame orchid]

Indepedence

[wind hazel]

Independence also not me

[sinful elk]

What is an oil cap

[tame orchid]

Max amount of oil when you sortie

[south sequoia]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[tame orchid]

With oil cap you dont use much oil like my 1250 oil cap per run on chap 7 lmao

[south sequoia]

Polaris is 10 levels higher than doing 6-4

[tame orchid]

^

Him not me

[south sequoia]

Are you sure it's sp5?

the very last level of polaris

[wind hazel]

it's 174 oil per run

[sinful elk]

i think not?

[agile jasper]

Who do I change long island with? ||Essex||

[tame orchid]

Wait which stage of polaris has oil cap

[wind hazel]

SP5

[tame orchid]

Ah got it

[umbral briar]

all oil caps are at the last level except XP or whatever it is called, if you still don't get the oil cap it means your farming location is still wrong

[sinful elk]

I guess I'll do that SP5

[south sequoia]

volga

wait no, enterprise

[agile jasper]

In fleet 1?

[worldly pewter]

how many gold bulins do u have ?

[south sequoia]

can you post your fleet 1?

[sinful elk]

My fleet is going on strike how do i calm them down

[south sequoia]

just take a rest

whew, fleet struggling even with volga and unicorn present is a bit concerning.

[oak plaza]

Wait I need to wait for the Ehhsex event rerun to get Independence?

[inland shoal]

Put them in dorm too

[worldly pewter]

i told him to make a thread to see his ships and gear
got ignored

[sinful elk]

Actually like i just start to care about unicorn just hours ago

[inland shoal]

You hust need to wait to get enough core data for Indep

[wind hazel]

no, buy her from core data shop

[oak plaza]

how urgent is it

[sinful elk]

You mean me??

[south sequoia]

yep go for enterprise

then go for volga

and then probably shangri-la

[agile jasper]

Volga?

[inland shoal]

I'd get a few shells first

[south sequoia]

Does shangri-las damage w/ augment put her above in priority over essex despite essexes utility?

[south sequoia]

brunette girl with white hat

[agile jasper]

I know but why? And if I use her then replace who?

[sinful elk]

Hold on my phone is charging 😔

[oak plaza]

Do I actually need to deploy subs to 6-4

[sinful elk]

I think your unicorn can obliterate yuudachi with ease

[oak plaza]

lmao what level was she? 103?

[south sequoia]

take volga as a future recommendation rather than someone you should raise asap, she'd be useful for your mob fleet but unless you can resources to be able to make fleet 2, enterprise will be sitting there

[agile jasper]

I do have 4 fleets or 5

[inland shoal]

Imo Grila > Essex especially for mobbing

[open jackal]

if i want to afk exp farm for a bit, should i go for polaris sp5, or on the highest that i can (7-2) currently? this is my current fleet

[noble wyvern]

hm ok

[hard mesa]

7-2 prob

[turbid dawn]

Do we know when Musashi is gonna be rerun? I can only try her out in guild fights and in her 1 salvo she beats others getting 2 salvos. And I really wanna test her not in only guild bosses

[south sequoia]

Nope

[oak plaza]

is there a ship scrap/become-enhance-mats list as opposed to the ship tier list

[south sequoia]

Always assume when asking when x ship will rerun that the answer will be a until we get news and announcements

[dawn whale]

Musashi will rerun in 2037 obviously

[inland shoal]

No but that damage diff to Soyuz isn't that representative tbh

[turbid dawn]

Yeah, only BisZ was getting the dmg increase from Soyuz to at least make the fact Sushi has Ply buff but her 2 salvos still couldn't beat the 1. She just seems so strong and I wanna properly test her

Because getting 260k dmg with 1 salvo is absurd

[worldly pewter]

it depends on the player
i like holding on N ships until lvl 120 to retire and their dupes are used for enhance or retire

[plain saffron]

release date + 2 years+ is rough estimate

that's all we know, exact time is unknown until confirmed. and they can change the orders if they want

[oak plaza]

Because I keep getting "Rare" level drops, but I already have them and they're nowhere near the top of the tier list so Im contemplating between 1 medal, or book + LB

[south sequoia]

Musashi is really great and strong yes but her gun limitations are what hold her back

[inland shoal]

Book? @oak plaza

[gilded cargo]

Probably this year?

[south sequoia]

there's a reason why people slapped musashi out of their fleets when soyuz dropped and had comparable damage to bisZ

[ivory linden]

Rough estimate is around september-october this year

[worldly pewter]

i keep them to mlb then 120 and the rest retire and will retire them when they reach 120 because f2p dockspace

[oak plaza]

send the new one + XP book to the old one so I can LB

(Its fusou if you';re wondering)

[inland shoal]

Ah yeah I'd LB, but make sure you're not "wasting" all your books like that

[oak plaza]

Ok then what would constitute wasting

[echo axle]

She got power crept or something?

[south sequoia]

Not at all, soyuz just was more comfortable to use

if you still need the medium/heavy nuking musashi is right there

[echo axle]

Ah, ic, but Musashi is still a good unit tho rightM

[hollow gust]

Soyuz is easier and more consistent ,Musashi nukes harder , there are just no content that needs the Musashi nuke , so consistency is king

[south sequoia]

because often times in opsi you'd run into a light armor boss and what happened was zwei was doing 95% of the lifting

[inland shoal]

I'd just make sure you don't go below a certain threshold of books, like 1k or sth

[echo axle]

I missed Soyuz banner so that's a huge L

[inland shoal]

Well there's also campaign where I like Sushi a lot better

[echo axle]

Sushi can bomb nicely for the thick bosses, I like her during these times, but she's very heavy ngl

[oak plaza]

And... not using books or dupes of normal rarity ships unless I intend to use said ships? (in which case the only 2 I can think of specifically don't want to be LB'd so)

[undone plover]

u want to MLB them eventually since they are a cheap source of faction tech. but they also need to be at level 70 for that so not a priority now. let them get xp through commissions and u will do it eventually

[inland shoal]

I mean tbh normals you get so often from pulls anyway that saving dupes isn't rly worth it

Since you will easily get the dupes from pulls anyway

[oak plaza]

or maybe get the non-normal rarity ships that I don't use to 2LB since that costs way less books than going to mLB

?

[undone plover]

if u have the spare books sure.

[oak plaza]

I still have like

1.2k blue XP books I think

no purple XP books tho

[undone plover]

i am on 3k currently and using ~50-60 per day to get ships to level 69. imo save up till u have more but if u have dupes u want to use to clear up space it is fine

[oak plaza]

does anyone actually have purple XP books

[steady beacon]

Purple xp books are uh... generally only obtainable from paid cruise pass... I believe?

[oak plaza]

OH MY GOD FUSOU STOP DROPPING ON EVERY NODE

[inland shoal]

Nice.

[oak plaza]

do blue rarity ships drop that frequently on 6-4

[jaunty vault]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[inland shoal]

Rare drops are pretty frequent in general

[steady beacon]

Despite the name

Just MLB her and bench her for raising later, to get that wonderful +1 RLD

[sinful elk]

How much does morale drop when i sortie them and win?

[steady beacon]

-2 normally

[inland shoal]

2 iirc

[sinful elk]

Oath ships can't go below 100 yes?

[undone plover]

-2 per node and -10 if a ship sinks

[inland shoal]

Oaths can go below 100 in morale as well as affi

[plain saffron]

oathed can go to 0, it just the stats bonus that's locked to 9% minimum

[sinful elk]

Huh i thought morale means affi

[sudden briar]

Is the standard loadout for damage carriers still double steam catapult

Returning player after four years

[plain saffron]

outside timing adjustment, yes

[sudden briar]

I see, thanks!

[steady beacon]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity... long page, but it covers what both affinity and morale are here

[inland shoal]

No, morale just decreases affi once you hit 0 morale

[undone plover]

morale is the happy/sad face. from 0-119 normally and any ship in dorm can go up to 150
u want morale >120 to get +20% xp in sortie. stop playing if morale is very low and let them recover or go play opsi

affinity is the heart icon and it mostly doesnt matter. it will go up with battles and eventually hit 100 for all ships unless u sortie them with 0 morale. oathed can go up to 200

[steady beacon]

Well, the length is entirely bc of the oath skins and post-oath line examples, actually, the content is a few paragraphs

Affinity does kinda matter, it affects the stat boosts

[plain saffron]

do people actually actively keep their ship 120+

[undone plover]

the ones I am farming with of course

[steady beacon]

Outside of when I use logistics plans

[inland shoal]

I know a lot do, I don't cuz there's really no good way to check for that

[plain saffron]

calc in your head

[undone plover]

just put the 6 u are farming with in dorm

[hollow gust]

It's a waste of time , you get under 120 in a few runs

[steady beacon]

It's -2 per sortie, +5 unoathed in dorm level 2 every six minutes, just calculate from there

[pure geode]

about 3 sorties if it's 12-4

[undone plover]

just do 3x sortie then wait 1h and farm again not that difficult

[plain saffron]

calculate doesn't count as a good way to check it

if i have 5 hours to play i gonna play the entire 5 hours, no time to care about 120+ morale

[inland shoal]

Well duh but after very few runs they're below 120 and I cba to figure out the wait until I can repeat
Not to mention that if I try to wait an hour I'll completely forget about the game for the next 8h most of the time

[plain saffron]

there's this thing called life, and class, and work

[undone plover]

u guys arent no-lifing hard enough

[hard mesa]

120+ if youre not 3x autoing

[plain saffron]

also you gonna get gated by chips anyway so why even bother

[steady beacon]

Bc I'm too sentimental

[pure geode]

u can store exp and move to another ship

[steady beacon]

Oh that didn't mean what I thought it meant I think...

[hard mesa]

better autoing than keep 120+ morale

[pure geode]

i mean it's fine if u wana do that but yeah that's how you'd keep your ship above 120

[undone plover]

well at least new players trying to push campaign should try to >120 morale if they can i guess.

[steady beacon]

Eh, 3x auto in 12-4 seems to keep everyone above 120 in my case...
By the time I remember about the game again, they're all healed up enough for the next 3x auto to stay above 120
Rinse and repeat

[elfin hollow]

is w15 a good place to farm?

im mainly looking to get gold and cogs

[inland shoal]

If I do that I cap on oil all the time

[plain saffron]

imo new player shouldn't care about minmaxing to that extend, that will scare them

just tell them to play normally no avoid information overload

[inland shoal]

Err yes if you can do it consistently? But you're using maxed ships exclusively

[steady beacon]

Oh is the cog rate in W15 better than lower worlds 👀

[inland shoal]

Not sure, but probably, as it's higher in w14 than 13 than 12, but 🤏

[elfin hollow]

i used a boost and got some pretty good amount of stuff

-3k oil for all that

[wary hawk]

no exp though 😩

[inland shoal]

Also idk the coin/oil ratio of 15-4 tbh but I'm pretty sure that the coin/time ratio is better in 12 or 13-4

[elfin hollow]

yeah i think ill stick to 13-4 for everything

i just have guam and unicorn in the fleet and everyone else is exp ships

[tame orchid]

Anyway to get decor coins faster

[inland shoal]

But if you have the time and don't need the exp (cuz cog capped anyway or whatever idk) and have a consistent fleet, 15-4 might be best for cogs and coins ig
But this isn't based on real evidence, just trends and my feelings

[inland shoal]

Do more comms

[elfin hollow]

i feel ur feelings

[steady beacon]

One day, then, when I feel like I want to suffer for Houston...
Until then, it's dragging my missing tech through 12-4

[inland shoal]

Actually what is the cog surplus if we ignore 125s?
As in what's monthly cog income vs new ships released worth of cog cost to 120?

[steady beacon]

... After we established we have no real idea about random cube income, I'm guessing we don't have any idea about random cog income either, do we?

[inland shoal]

I guess
Though I still think 2 a day is an okay estimate
Though tbh if we go with 12 events and 100 pulls on average that's actually kinda little net income with just 60 extra cubes right?

[steady beacon]

... That's a good point, actually...
Given that some people I know, even with some insanely bad luck on some events, have cube counts in the 3000s

[undone plover]

2/day is on the lower side in my experience if u have good uptime on commissions

[inland shoal]

Well I tracked it for a month and 2 a day was pretty much my average

Granted I'm in EU so night comms are trash

[steady beacon]

Ngl, the only number I personally cared for when I was new was the assumption of 189 guaranteed cubes in a four-week period, assuming 1 dead/1 prelude/2 major event
Back when I only needed to worry I might get screwed for major events then the Fire Nation attacked light reruns kinda messed with me

[undone plover]

Isnt it 168/month + 20/2 months from cruise?
Or are you counting the events as well?

[steady beacon]

Yep, counting the event as well
And assuming no 1 "wasted" light build/day during the event period, so the net "usable" cube income during those weeks was 4/day rather than 3
And also before cruise missions were a thing

[kind forum]

Not playing this game for a long time... Did Enty get any new skill or upgrades?

[inland shoal]

No

Hmm yeah that's true, during events and reruns you should calc with 4 cubes a day

I mean I just go ham on the first day and thus waste 13 cubes but if you were to meta

[undone plover]

It u are patient

[steady beacon]

Back then, I wasn't patient so much as desperate

Nowadays, so long as my cubes and coins are holding out, I go with trying to get everyone day 1 if I can as well
Think the last time I didn't was that 216-build torture for Whydah

[oak plaza]

Ok I have 850 gems now what do I spend them on

[tall tapir]

hello guys, i'm a new player and i have a question about monthly shop, i don't find the answer : in the end of the month, will i loose all medals of hoor and/or specialized core ?

[undone plover]

3rd dorm slot > second floor > dockspace

[vernal osprey]

So here is what I found out, apparently I am getting more urgent comms when I do area that I have not completed yet

[oak plaza]

Current dock capacity: 194
Current dorm floor max level: 1
Current net dorm slots: 5

[inland shoal]

2nd floor

[soft raft]

Would be fucking insane if you lost them all considering the prices of some of the items

People would be hopping mad if that was the case

[oak plaza]

ok done

[tall tapir]

thx

[steady beacon]

Actually, is there any evidence/confirmation that urgent comms have a higher chance of appearing from doing stages of the current event? Or is that just purely speculative?

[oak plaza]

Likely speculative with decreasingly-small sample size due to the nature of the type of sample

[plain saffron]

i have't heard anything like that at all

[steady beacon]

Weird legends passed by word of mouth then

[oak plaza]

@jaunty vault ?

what's the issue

[ivory linden]

Weren't we supposed to get 20 cubes in the mail today or nah?

[jaunty vault]

haven't heard about it

[steady beacon]

You might be thinking of the skill campaign login rewards

[inland shoal]

Do you mean from the lifestream?

[ivory linden]

Yeah

[hard mesa]

Theres mail for upcoming event

[steady beacon]

Mail rewards for the upcoming event have no cubes
But the 20 cubes are part of the daily login rewards for the skill campaign that begins with the upcoming event

[sinful elk]

The monthly login??

[ivory linden]

Ah didn't notice that. Thank you

[oak plaza]

Do I just expand my dock space with my remaining 350 gems

[steady beacon]

Nah, some events have daily login rewards, which are separate to the monthly login rewards

[sinful elk]

Sound like i missed that event?

[steady beacon]

Actually, in this particular case, it's specifically a skill training campaign, which isn't really strictly tied to any event
No, it hasn't happened yet

It starts uh... this Thursday

[sinful elk]

an upcoming event?

[sullen creek]

Real?

[steady beacon]

Mhm, it was mentioned during the livestream

[plain saffron]

yeah this is first time skill event without new server. or maybe it's not announced yet

[sullen creek]

ChamPOGne

[plain saffron]

or i guess there will be new players event, just not new server. who knows

[jaunty vault]

if youre an active player thag grinds till your ships lose morale, it is a good idea to invest in second floor dorm

[steady beacon]

CN is getting a new server isn't it, though?

[soft raft]

why else would we be seeing announcements show up in #game-news
and we had a livestream for it last Friday, and livestream often means a event the foloowing week

[plain saffron]

ouh, then it make sense to have skill event

[sinful elk]

Second floor dorm is a thing?

[steady beacon]

Ngl I never realised that skill campaigns were tied to new servers... TIL

[hard mesa]

Is this quick skill training?

[plain saffron]

hard to notice unless you specifically look at all 3 servers

i have AL additction

[jaunty vault]

4

[oak plaza]

already got 2nd floor dorm

[plain saffron]

who?

[sullen creek]

I didn't watch it

[plain saffron]

but there's still #game-news

[jaunty vault]

then buy dock space

[late flame]

#jp-spring-2024-livestream-discussion

[inland shoal]

I knew that and I don't

[stable badger]

since Guam got added, are there good fleet comps to 3 star ch15? like, without hoping for less 3 star enemies

[jaunty vault]

imagine having a life and not focusing all of your time on hit mobile game azur lame

[plain saffron]

you're a mod you don't count

[oak plaza]

was buying the 5th dorm slot (the 6th slot is ungodly expensive) a mistake?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[plain saffron]

not a mistake

[jaunty vault]

im f2p and i have 6 slots + floor2

but i also have more than twice your dock space

[stable badger]

you want all 6 slots. they "pay for themselves" as time goes on

[warm flax]

How many years

[plain saffron]

it's not useless, but it also not high priority

[sinful elk]

This is the hardest life decision ever in my life (what thing should i spend my gem on)

[plain saffron]

it's easy actually, just whale and buy both

[jaunty vault]

do /gems in bot spam

[tawdry sluice]

what do you have currently or also just do /gems

[undone plover]

if u are f2p stay at 3 slots. i dont see what the benefit of extra slots are outside of free xp. and xp rly doesnt matter that much

[late flame]

or https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KVOhAOz9wwZK0gQON0PLJrDkPEp6vg66Fh8U2LoYG4/edit

[stable badger]

your f2p gems should be reserved to dorm expansion. since you get passive exp. AND second dorm keeps you at high mood to keep running maps without losing affinity.

[plain saffron]

you forgot dock exist

[wary hawk]

the game devolves entirely into an exp fram o.o how does it not matter

[warm flax]

Won't you run out of food with 6 dorms slots

[plain saffron]

also you don't need to stay at 3 slot

[stable badger]

you can make do with a guild to provide some extra dock space

[inland shoal]

I once grinded so much that my boss fleet ran out of morale, good thing I have 6 slots and 2 floors

[plain saffron]

yeah 30 dock slot to help in a game with 600+ ships

[viscid swift]

Staying at 180 is an absolute pain for anyone who doesn't hate buying dock space

[warm flax]

Just retire 120s

[jaunty vault]

what were you grinding? 2-1?

[hard mesa]

[stable badger]

he just started out. 600 gems wont cover 20 expansions either...

[plain saffron]

even outside collecting ships, there's bulins and also having a buffer make the farm less annoying

[inland shoal]

Dorm exp is relatively little tbh

[wary hawk]

Oh I agree, I just thought the statement was odd

[plain saffron]

and i don't think new player need maxed dorm either

[sinful elk]

Morale room

Well since i spend almost 8 hours to grind al a day i may just get dorm slots

[inland shoal]

Some easy event, don't rly remember it

[plain saffron]

you will max it eventually, but you can focus on dock first and dorm later, or balance or something

[inland shoal]

But yeah I don't rly see the point to go beyond 3 dorm slots and 2nd floor

[plain saffron]

not stay at 180 dock space with maxed dorm and get popup every 1 round of stage clear

[tawdry sluice]

Dock space is really great for qol

3 dorm slots with 2 floors is what I'm rocking currently

[stable badger]

academy might be a good investement too then. helping out with raising skills faster to bring up to speed, then with just 2 slots.

[plain saffron]

NO

[viscid swift]

It's not

Long term It's just a skill book sink

[tawdry sluice]

Yeah I have the 3rd slot, and I just be upgrading random ships at this point haha

[viscid swift]

Not like new players have much in the way of skill books to burn anyway

[plain saffron]

at first it sounds good but after a while you realise you don't really benefit from it that much

unless you trying to max every ship in the game or something

[sinful elk]

Should i buy the pass

[hollow gust]

Do you like the skin? If not no

[steady beacon]

Uh... I kinda feel the spending of real money should be something entirely decided by yourself tbh

[sinful elk]

I want the exp and items than skins really

[hollow gust]

Sounds like a waste of money then, only real reason to get it is for the skin

[sinful elk]

Idk what to spend with $10

[stable badger]

if you do the whole thing, the gems alone pay for half the price.

[sinful elk]

What about the trade license?

[tawdry sluice]

Just save your money if not sure what you want to do with it

[sinful elk]

I got to stage 68 already

[wary hawk]

I wasnt sure what to do with my money, then devonshire skin released 😔

[undone plover]

later in the game u will struggle with cog chips to awaken ships. so xp becomes relatively worthless. plus u can grind unlimited xp for free in C1 opsi

[tawdry sluice]

How do you grind unlimited xp in c1 ops?

[jaunty vault]

merchant gives you AP from time to time

[eager mulch]

are we going to start discussing C1 brainrot again

[stable badger]

i mean...if you're not sure you can finish it. you got 40 days until it resets. just save the money and once you finish it, buy it then?

[sinful elk]

You are a total genius

I doubt that i can finish it to the end but still maybe around stage 94 or 95?

[stable badger]

do the missions. heck, i forgot to do this one for 4 weeks that's 4 levels/items

[pure geode]

if you keep up the same progress then you should be able to clear it, unless for some reason you aren't able to play

[south sequoia]

You underestimate how easy it is to finish the pass w/o paying

[sinful elk]

I mean i want the things inside the pass

[south sequoia]

just casual playing and grinding and then you finish it

[eager mulch]

you overestimate how much time people can put into the game

[sinful elk]

I risk my future to dedicate it to azur lane 🙏

[south sequoia]

If you only put 1 hour into the game per day sure it will be hard
but as a student who only puts 2 - 3 hours into the game I regularly finish the pass 20 - 10 days before it ends

[sinful elk]

I guess I'll be buying the pass

[eager mulch]

AL class in college

[hard mesa]

[south sequoia]

It's not really asking you to do much if you are a regular grinder
it only becomes hard if you aren't a regular
same as with every other game or feature

[whole crypt]

as a working adult who spends an average of 4-5 hours on the game everyday

[sinful elk]

Also is the 30 days trade license worth buying too

[pure geode]

worth is highly dependent on you

[whole crypt]

it helps you stock cubes slightly faster, and helps with oil if you're spending a lot, but otherwise not really

generally the idea is paying for res is not worthwhile

[wind hazel]

it's actually one of the best value for gem after you've exhausted the double bonus

[blazing shale]

He already said he's spending, so that's a yes

[sinful elk]

I guess I'm an active player?

[whole crypt]

spending money on the game is one thing, doesn't mean buying res is worthwhile

some people only pay to buy skins and expand dock

[sinful elk]

Wdym double bonus?

[wind hazel]

the gem packs

[sinful elk]

Oh i havent bought any yet

[oak plaza]

so basically

for everything that isn't the trade license thing

first time purchase gives you x2 the amount of gems

also iirc for most of them, the ratio is 60 gems/USD

with the final, most expensive option being 61 gems/USD

but license is like 62.5 gems/USD

not to mention they're throwing in extra cubes

[sharp socket]

what is this thing

[umbral briar]

Furniture?

[rain vine]

dorm furniture

[knotty dome]

for vanguard secondary DD guns, would the choice be the same as if i was choosing a primary gun for a DD? like assuming i dont have extra 100kai, tash/pr5 gun would be good against light?

[frank pulsar]

just note that if youre short on good guns prioritise main guns over secondary guns as theyre usually weaker

[knotty dome]

i think i heard somewhere once upon a time that secondary guns could be weighted towards fast firing guns since they do less damage anyways and should break shields or something

[jaunty vault]

tashgun should be better than 100kai for most vanguard secondary

[frank pulsar]

kinda niche but yea you could do that ig

i dont think secondaries contribute to aoa though so keep that in mind

[jaunty vault]

they don't

[inland shoal]

Fast firing means shells/second not fire/second which would be what you want just for aoa

[undone plover]

is this month 7 strongholds? forgot what happens if we start on a monday

[inland shoal]

Start on Monday = immediate 3 strongholds

[stark quiver]

Is there a chart of which meowficcer talents that are good

[jaunty vault]

not a good chart

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[jaunty vault]

but do /cats
i recommend reading the cat guide by riceist

[elfin hollow]

Is the prototype triple 406mm (italian) main gun good?

[eager mulch]

no

[whole crypt]

PR4 sap gun? 🚮

[kindred dust]

i went to look at ECTL to see if friedrich carl is worth raising, and saw that she is in T0, knowing that the tierlist is sometimes questionable, what makes her t0?

[eager mulch]

decent tank and damage

[atomic abyss]

[crimson glacier]

T EX is like really far apart from T0 too

[atomic abyss]

Supposedly her dps can compete with drake's

tho i have a hard time believing that honestly

[crimson glacier]

devs always hated drake so i believe it

[whole crypt]

honestly don't count on ECTL to decide if you should raise a ship, thing is Carl is still not going to be your hard tank for hardest stuff

[atomic abyss]

well, she'll be useful when getting exp for hinden i suppose

[eager mulch]

rainbow CB spam

[crimson glacier]

exp grind doesnt need good ships

[kindred dust]

i already have all the ships in tier ex :p

[whole crypt]

if you have the CBs completed then you practically have no use for Carl, just raise her if you want to

[kindred dust]

i see, i was simply curious if there's anything good about the game's newest cougar

[whole crypt]

she's a gold CA

[crimson glacier]

CA needs to be insane to be of any use

[atomic abyss]

speaking of which

[crimson glacier]

if you are post CB

[whole crypt]

were there even any interesting gold CAs since SF?

[viscid swift]

Anchorage I guess.....

[steady beacon]

Was puzzling in my mind there for a bit, but Anch did indeed come after SF

[whole crypt]

well gold gacha CAs

[atomic abyss]

well definition of interesting varies

lon kai has a very unique kit after all

[whole crypt]

I just consider her a gun CA, just that the damage is coming from aux gun not main gun

[hard mesa]

does ARA buff only applies to airstrike, not included skill barrage?

[crimson glacier]

pretty sure its all dmg

[steady beacon]

All AVI-based damage

[atomic abyss]

As long as this ship is afloat, increase all damage dealt by all CVs and CVLs in your fleet by 5% (15%).
So all forms

[steady beacon]

Actually, crap... now you've got me curious...

[atomic abyss]

based on the wording used
shd be a flat dmg% buff?

[steady beacon]

Never even thought about asking about the weird CVs that have FP or TRP stats, gonna check this...

[atomic abyss]

the more relevant question is if this affects AA

[steady beacon]

Someone mentioned in this chat recently it affects plane AA I think...?

[inland shoal]

It's just plain damageRatioBullet

[woeful forge]

did CAs being almost always better than CLs for both dps and ehp, barring support skills and special cases, change somehow

[crimson glacier]

CBs

and support is way more important than stats

[atomic abyss]

i mean, CBs only beat out CAs in the tanking department really

[hard mesa]

oh okay just making sure becasue hammam ii skill specfically mentioned "airstrike dmg" while others is "dmg dealt by cv/cvl"

[crimson glacier]

CAs dont do enough dmg either to really beat CBs

only like unzen does actually more dmg

[steady beacon]

But is it only DMG referring to AVI value?

[sullen creek]

Is this 2022?

[steady beacon]

HamII's Flagship Cover thing is an ARA clone, ye, so 'tis fine, just worded inconsistently

[hard mesa]

if its flat dmg increase it should be applied to all type of stats dmg

[inland shoal]

No that would be sth like damageRatioByAir or sth

[crimson glacier]

the skill doesnt even mention avi

[frank pulsar]

burning reveals concealed ships faster right?

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki detection

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[frank pulsar]

including enemy ships?

[woeful forge]

wait, so wtf do you even run in vanguard nowadays, cb sandwich with helena?

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Suchiguma/Concealment

[crimson glacier]

i rarely bother with helena

[woeful forge]

can any of the buffers even run offtank

[crimson glacier]

like everyone

like only CAs you use in the end are hindy and unzen

tho i dont think hindy is that good for campaign

unless you get her before beating w14 i guess

[woeful forge]

who are we even talking about wrt buffers actually.
kazagumo/sirius/helena all tend to die horribly if you try to run them offtank
if it's someone newer I'm probably just not familiar

[crimson glacier]

all of those survive just fine

tho if you want much better ship in general thats ply

[inland shoal]

Sirius doesn't matter if she dies anyway

[frank pulsar]

theres nothing about burning in this page
though i did learn that hit is more effective than i initially thought

[elfin hollow]

Or nah

[cobalt rapids]

burning doesn’t do anything in w14 afaik

[steep merlin]

Are there good ships to get from the medal shop?

[inland shoal]

Yeah w14 concealment idrk, if hitting doesn't reveal, burn won't either

[inland shoal]

CL and DD not really

[frank pulsar]

what about w15?

[steep merlin]

I see

Is there a guide on where to spend medals?

[inland shoal]

W15 has concealment?

[vivid panther]

Akagi or Enterprise? Which one is stronger? My Akagi is lvl 92 and enterprise is lvl71?

[soft raft]

Enterprise == Hood (Prioritize whoever shows up first then get the other from rookie missions > SR Bullins == Any ship that gives tech points you need > everything else as you see fit

[whole crypt]

Enterprise is the better carrier but your Akagi has 42% level advantage

[soft raft]

Assuming both are the same lvl, Enty would wipe the floor
Akagi relies on Kaga for the buff then for ideal useage you'd have to use Nagato while Enty doesnt need to be weighed down by other ships

[steep merlin]

I'll get hood from rookie, but in my first fleet I already have nelson enterprise and unicorn

should I start building second fleet?

[soft raft]

Are you at at least W9 yet and have your first fleet sufficently leveled up?

[vivid panther]

can i show my dock?

[steep merlin]

I have yet to unlock wl 9 because im level 62, but yes my fleet has no problem clearing any content (they are all lvl 100+), portland and z23 have retrofit and nelson and unicorn almost too

[soft raft]

Post it in a thread

[soft raft]

Then for now just stick to 1 fleet until you get to W9 (And unlock oil cap)

[steep merlin]

got it

[steady beacon]

Tangent, but still slightly related
Are "increase damage dealt to x armour type" skills DamageRatioBullet or something else?

[inland shoal]

There's the good old just ammo mod increases (damageAmmoToArmorRateEnhance_X) and the others are something like damageToArmorRateEnhance_X iirc (can check if you name a ship with a skill like that)

[steady beacon]

Oh? I thought after that update early last year all the first type was changed to the second type

Where does damageToArmorRateEnhance_X fit in the calculation when it comes to stacking though?

[haughty dust]

any idea who this unknown character is on 12–4? I have found every other character available on that node already.

[hard mesa]

javelin

[inland shoal]

Just another multiplier

[steady beacon]

Wonderful, thank you

[inland shoal]

@vale spindle Hmm guess this stuff is missing from Damage Calc page

[cobalt rapids]

DamageToArmorRateEnhance are its own multi category ?

[west mural]

Is Nelson now viable with her retrofit?

[atomic abyss]

very viable

[steady beacon]

Please don't shoot me, but uh... I guess I will name one...
Harbin's... is both equipped torpedoes + armour type so is hers a special category of its own or just a fancier example of damageToArmorRateEnhance_X?

[inland shoal]

It's ((ammo_mod+damageAmmoToArmorRateEnhance) * (1+damageToArmorRateEnhance)) yep

[cobalt rapids]

upper echelon of gold bbs

[inland shoal]

Harbin is damageToArmorRateEnhance_3 as well as injureRatioByBulletTorpedo

[vivid panther]

is it possible for me to create a better team? Or is this current formation OK?

[crimson glacier]

portland over eugen and helena over fletcher

[cobalt rapids]

yes replace soyuz with unicorn and akagi with enty and replace fletcher and eugen with port and helena

[vivid panther]

unicorn?

[crimson glacier]

she is in guild shop

also why would you use spoiler for that

[cobalt rapids]

also did u whale on normal banners or what

[steady beacon]

Wait a sec, so her 20% equipped torpedoes buff against heavy armour is really two separate types?

[inland shoal]

No, the 20% is purely damageToArmorRateEnhance_3 (applied only to equip index 2), the other thing is the self dmg taken from torps, Chinese DDs is damageRatioByBulletTorpedo

[vivid panther]

this one?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[steady beacon]

Ah, OK
Ty for the clarification and for not shooting me

[atomic abyss]

best healer in the game once retrofit

[inland shoal]

Why would I shoot you tho, for me this stuff is rly simple to look up while for you it's a nightmare

[crimson glacier]

thorin shoot that guy lmao 😂

[fading swift]

Enterprise server please

[atomic abyss]

[vivid panther]

can i use another character instead portland?

[inland shoal]

Not really, you gotta raise Portland for beginner missions anyway

[atomic abyss]

game actively rewards you for doing so, no reason not to

[rapid grail]

#game-feedback and hope your suggestion gets heard (it won't)

[frank pulsar]

is avp or enty better for opsi anti light? idr the consensus on it

[inland shoal]

If you already have a stop?

[pulsar hornet]

We hadn't had any new retrofit in a while right?

[atomic abyss]

tai yuan in feb

[cobalt rapids]

if ure one of the 2 cv fleets ppl then the standard fleet is kear yk2 avp

[rapid grail]

avp for the root and near-guaranteed hit (needs timing stuff)
enty for the damage
if possible, use both

[pulsar hornet]

Oh right. Got it

[frank pulsar]

no space for both, kear and yorkii occupy the other two slots
the question for me now is whether avp stop is more valuable than enty dmg when rocket hit rate is already quite good without a stop

[inland shoal]

It is

[cobalt rapids]

~~or u can cope nh2 like me ~~

[frank pulsar]

nh2?

[hollow gust]

Northhampton

[haughty dust]

what rarity is Marco Polo? I just started on her since I can’t do the one ship in between her and AVP. I don’t have enough tech points just yet for that ship.

[pulsar hornet]

Has the Meta no longer taking space rolled in yet or nah?

[frank pulsar]

wouldnt laffii be better

[steady beacon]

Not yet
Should be... sometime around CN anni, based on the announcements

[cobalt rapids]

laffii has no slows

[haughty dust]

I still have to work on Sakura Empire to be able to start researching the other ship that I don’t know how to spell or pronounce offhand.

[hard mesa]

prob 50% slow still better than 6% aa debuff

[frank pulsar]

shes priority rarity, research equivalent to super rare
its worth noting that shes no longer worth it these days due to opportunity cost

[haughty dust]

I just know it starts with the letter “H”

[hollow gust]

Just use both

[rapid grail]

northampton II has a 50% slow iirc. you can use that if you really want enty to take over avp (or implacable)
meanwhile laff-ii can tank there, so there's that. use laff-ii when you use avp or implac

[haughty dust]

well, like I said, I can’t start researching this shit in between because I don’t have enough tech points yet. So might as well work on the only other PR 4 ship that I can do at the moment.

[crimson glacier]

50% slow sounds kinda useless

[frank pulsar]

laffii main tank hasnt been doing well for me in opsi, ill just stick to avp

[frank pulsar]

anchorage has the highest priority in pr4
eagle union tech points should be quite abundant

is dev29 brest tankier than azuma

[hard mesa]

avp has 20% bonus to cl + siren killer skill and additional 8% airstrike dmg increase debuff on light and med, so she doesnt lose dmg to enty

[steady beacon]

Is this like... Arbiter?

[frank pulsar]

for arbiter yea, cuz arbiter doesnt do heavy dmg but does continuous small dmg

at least for me

[haughty dust]

I have already unlocked her. I also think I’ve gotten her all the way up to max already, but I’m not 100% sure.

[jaunty vault]

yes

[steady beacon]

The damage value is less important than volume for messing Laffey up tbf
Same trick we learned in PvP

[frank pulsar]

just 120 the ships that you have hanging around lv80-90 and youll have enough tech points

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[haughty dust]

My Anchorage @frank pulsar

[hard mesa]

does 5% hp lose from module still apply to laffii?

[haughty dust]

sounds good. that might take a while since the current ship I just started working on does not require that faction. I’d probably have to make a fleet 3 and a fleet 4 up to do that or put them in the dorm. Whatever you think is better.

[jaunty vault]

laff2 cannot equip laffey1 module...

[steady beacon]

Think he's talking about the Destruction skill from Temperance

[hard mesa]

i mean harbiter module

[steady beacon]

Or whatever it's called in English, I forget

[frank pulsar]

make a fleet 3, dorm exp is pretty negligible when stages like 12-1 is available to you

[haughty dust]

ok. I can make one up but I doubt I have enough gear for it to be able to get through 12 – one I might have to do like 10 –1. I will make one up and either start a thread or post in here the fleet formation when I get it finished.

[frank pulsar]

just move gear around
a twin 113 and two quad bofors in your vanguard should suffice for aa

[steady beacon]

Based on eyeballing it in a vid... I think Laffey's blue skill affects even the Destruction module... she was taking 154 damage start of battle, and it looked like 95 in the last iteration...

[haughty dust]

not sure if I even have that though.

[steady beacon]

In any event, as far as I'm aware, it affects every possible source of damage, so... it certainly should either way...

[haughty dust]

probably at this point be best to make a thread because that situation with that faction is pretty miserable overall. Give me just a moment.

[frank pulsar]

those are from tech boxes, just open some

[haughty dust]

I’ll show you what I mean in just a moment in a thread

Sakura Empire fleet formation suggestions

@frank pulsar #1232003751947145329

[open jackal]

is it okay to replace non retro portland with algerie(bec waifu)

[jaunty vault]

sure

[inland shoal]

Ig, but Algerie costs gold bulins and you will have to (partly) retro Port anyway for newbie missions

[jaunty vault]

waifu is enough reason to use a ship and you dont need to use portland to partly or fully retrofit her for that matter

[open jackal]

fair, i have 2 gold bullins left to mlb enty anyway, but is algerie comparable to port?

[jaunty vault]

portland is a better tank

[hollow gust]

Algerie is slightly more damage , less tanky

[open jackal]

i see, but eh, ill use algerie then

though getting gold bullins would suck

[jaunty vault]

[pure geode]

just know that you'd also have to complete quests that needs portland for rookie

[cobalt rapids]

laffi survives this month, can prob even run 1 offensive aux
strength will strength but there shouldnt be any problems otherwise

[hollow gust]

Strength?

[cobalt rapids]

i meant idk if she survives nxt month on strength

but she shouldnt have any problems with hermit and temp

[oblique thunder]

Is there a list of recommended gears for ship? (Most gears I have is gold though)

[frank pulsar]

i think the last time i tried laffii tank was on temperance, i sunk much earlier than i wouldve with ancho

[cobalt rapids]

/guide sams one

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 New Player's Guide by .Snub and Community TL

🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[cobalt rapids]

10s left ||helena not scanning anything as always ||

[oblique thunder]

Thanks I need to gear my Ply

[open jackal]

yeah, i got port at mlb lvl 90, so i won't worry (i guess)

[tulip zenith]

Is there any new ur since Russian one

[atomic abyss]

assuming you mean soyuz, no

[silk sphinx]

Should be in around a month

[kind slate]

how many flapjacks should i make?
also any difference between flapjack/sea hornet/tigercat

[cobalt rapids]

flapjack has best aa
the other ones are slightly faster so only relevant for timing
surface dmg is all the same
you should make flaps after finish ur conv tb and wyverns in gl

[eager mulch]

it’s quite shrimple yes, aside from timing, flap has slightly higher AA than the other two making it better in general, as for how many, that depends on what you need but you’ll need a bit for W15

[pure geode]

I meant to say that don't scarp her, also there's more to it: like getting her to 100 and doing 8 retrofit nodes

[kind slate]

whats ur conv tb

[cobalt rapids]

your converging torpedo bombers

[steady beacon]

Damn, I know my dodging skill sucks but you kept her alive against Hermit?
God I suffer from skill issues

[cobalt rapids]

dodging skills

and thats temperance

[silk sphinx]

Did you manual harbiter?

[eager mulch]

do you normally use laffii or someone else

[kind slate]

wait what plane is that. do i make it in gl?

[cobalt rapids]

junkers or ryuusei

[steady beacon]

I meant you kept her alive on auto while I could only keep her alive like... half the time? on manual

[hard mesa]

my laffii also fine during hermit, well she sank on last second

[cobalt rapids]

i mean shes prob dead if clock ticks 0

[kind slate]

how many of those? 2 or 3 each?

[eager mulch]

whatever you need to fit your cv timings

[cobalt rapids]

aim for 2-3 junkers then see how many ryuuseis u got from research then get enough to have 2-3 ryuusei aswell

[steady beacon]

Truly skill issue on my part...
Although... uh... possibly also my auxes...
Either way

[cobalt rapids]

i run 2x surv

[kind slate]

aight. time to get building junkers then

[steady beacon]

OK, so that's part of my problem

[cobalt rapids]

prob fine with manjuu offensive aux but mine manjuu is taken by helena

[steady beacon]

I should just learn to dodge better
Or so I've been telling myself for years now

[green cave]

does using data pack cause any issue down the line for ships other than affinity?

[cobalt rapids]

depends how u use em

it can cause "i ran out of data packs to boost low lvl ship to survive in my grinding place coz i use em to lvl 125 other ships" problems

besides the affinity like u said

[sweet delta]

using them on main fleet ships will make you run out of main fleet ships to level earlier in 4 years

[green cave]

ok so I can use them to get a colab ship from 1-125 without penalty. just thought they was like crystals in H3rd

thanks

[jaunty vault]

what colab ship

[green cave]

the ones that are on the way for Apr 25

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt call stranger 125s no penality but sure

[viscid swift]

there's no collab event in a few days

it's a Muse event

[green cave]

I have 3k as I have never used them save for that 62 to 69

[sweet delta]

Stranger 125 is quite sad, if you 125 ships to use them in endgame content but then throw away the 6% stats

In chapter 14, if you sit a fleet on one of the boss spawn locations, is there a possibility of the boss spawning on your fleet?

[stable badger]

can we not deal with Yukikaze challenge without Manual?

[cobalt rapids]

we can

[cobalt rapids]

I cant test that

[sweet delta]

we can use a Soyuz with 199 RLD in battle

[silk sphinx]

Less.

[sweet delta]

Or any campaign or event

[steady beacon]

Is it something about Ch14 in particular
I've seen it happen in Ch11 once, long time ago

[sweet delta]

I remember back in my day. It certainly worked in 7-2

[cobalt rapids]

brb to 1-1

wait 1-1 doesnt work

[sweet delta]

Try a map whose boss location isn't surrounded

[jaunty vault]

yes

[silk sphinx]

I think it can happen

[atomic abyss]

yes it can work

in fact sometimes people used to park their boss fleet on the boss in advance

[jaunty vault]

lel

[crisp estuary]

[sweet delta]

I don't care about used to, I'm interested in now

[atomic abyss]

the thing is that for most newer and bigger maps

there are multiple places the boss can spawn so

[jaunty vault]

wiki is your fren

you can do it ren

[hard mesa]

can try 15-4.. it has fixed boss spawn

[sweet delta]

Bosses will never spawn on your fleet in 15-4

[jaunty vault]

what happens insteaf

[cobalt rapids]

spawns on top alr in action

[sweet delta]

It's built different

[jaunty vault]

what happens insteaf

[sweet delta]

The boss spawns one tile away

[jaunty vault]

[eager mulch]

so far

[sweet delta]

Maybe 15-1 and 2 act as normal

[stable badger]

didn't 15-4 spawn 3 "bosses"?

[jaunty vault]

yes

it does

not past tense but present tense

[sweet delta]

It messed up my kanpeki keikaku of autosearching 15-4 without third boss

[crisp estuary]

[stable badger]

then what's the point of parking fleet on boss in that conversation? you want your mob to soak... like 2 of the fights

[jaunty vault]

not keikaku douri

[stable badger]

or am i confusing it with 15-3? 💭

[inland shoal]

Chat language is English

[jaunty vault]

the conversation was for the past tense, past being long before w15

wait i think i know

[eager mulch]

im confuse

[stable badger]

i mean, even if it still* worked. you don't want to do that in ch15

[jaunty vault]

it was his keikaku(plan) to let one fleet do all enemies till last boss

[cobalt rapids]

translation keikaku means plan

[jaunty vault]

and fleet parked at last boss could do last boss

[stable badger]

can't believe i'm in a weeb game discord server and people are explaining the keikaku slang

[jaunty vault]

we should make a bug report for this

[jaunty vault]

was told to use english so

[atomic abyss]

how does one build an anti light CV fleet

[hard mesa]

[jaunty vault]

using anti light gear

[atomic abyss]

[stable badger]

i'm saying moderator is NOT a man of culture! love you ❤️

[inland shoal]

You take CVs and add rockets. Done.

[viscid swift]

uhhh what

[eager mulch]

here mine (it’s a faction fleet)

[atomic abyss]

yeah i mean i don't even know what CVs to use lol

[viscid swift]

I mean may as well run all Roombas if you're gonna go for alpha

[crisp estuary]

Bug report: tiny Nano is elite

[cobalt rapids]

wasted guam cf

[eager mulch]

all roombas mean the sexys I’ve crafted are for naught, plus this pic is outdated im using sexy double 57mm

[inland shoal]

Usual stuff is Yk2, Kear or Enty, AvP. IJN team also works

[sweet delta]

That seems like a great use of northii

[atomic abyss]

[sweet delta]

But why 128

[eager mulch]

it’s what i had at the time, outdated pic

im 100 kai pilled now

[cobalt rapids]

well u should become laffii pilled aswell

[eager mulch]

maybe i will

[atomic abyss]

these are the rocket planes right
yes i know it alr says rockets there

[eager mulch]

that is a rocket plane yes

[inland shoal]

Those are the medium rockets

[cobalt rapids]

one of them but the other is event exclusive and the other is niche

[steady beacon]

And hopefully not brought against light

[jaunty vault]

this one is niche too

[cobalt rapids]

no my opsi mob is using it daily

[atomic abyss]

ok assuming i want to beat up a light armoured target with CVs
and i dont have hvars
what shd i use lol

[sweet delta]

Every gear in game is niche. Some niches can be as large as 99% of the world

[steady beacon]

Bf109Gs are fine

[eager mulch]

bf109gs

[cobalt rapids]

bf109

[steady beacon]

We did use them anti-light for... the period of time between PR4 and Parallel Superimposition, after all

[eager mulch]

think of it this way, BF109G was the anti-light rocket fighter before Hvar existed

[atomic abyss]

wait hvars were farmable?

[steady beacon]

They were

[atomic abyss]

[sweet delta]

think of it this way, BF109G was the only rocket fighter before Hvar existed

[eager mulch]

with bugged increased drop rate too

[jaunty vault]

skyraider wasnt

[eager mulch]

not farming more hvars was like not investing in the housing market in 2008

[atomic abyss]

ok so assuming im using stuff like enty (cos no york II)
what about DB slot

[eager mulch]

tenrai

[hard mesa]

tenrai

[jaunty vault]

skyraider>tenrai>helldiver=PR5 DB

[atomic abyss]

so standard gearing
or does tenrai just happen to have better modifiers for light or sth

[eager mulch]

tenrai is just strong

[cobalt rapids]

tenrai only beaten by skyraider unless timing comes into play

[eager mulch]

golddiver

[atomic abyss]

is there any reason to craft this lol

[cobalt rapids]

didnt use it since it came out

[inland shoal]

Not rly tbh

Like there's some instances you can use it, but it doesn't rly make a difference

[eager mulch]

it Has the highest damage against Heavy armor bosses out of any fighter, but is worse than the other rockets against Light and Medium armor bosses.

[steady beacon]

Well, I guess if we want to go there... 2000lb bomb has 70 light, 500lb has 80 light, 800kg AP has 80 light... so kind of...?

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately i only have one rocket

[eager mulch]

spend protocore

[atomic abyss]

oh well sucks to be me

[eager mulch]

research PR4

become rocket man

[atomic abyss]

i am on PR4 yes

[steady beacon]

How long have you been on PR4

[wispy pendant]

i was only able to farm 5 HVARs

[atomic abyss]

since Mar 1st

[steady beacon]

Oh... fair, then
Pre sure my luck only got me one copy apiece of the gold PR6 eqs a month and 2/3 in...

[inland shoal]

Why do you keep track of useless equip

[steady beacon]

Wanted Shimanto gun and Kear gun
And just checked the others for fun since I was already there

[atomic abyss]

so really, it's anything with strong fighter slots?

[eager mulch]

skills

raw stats

[atomic abyss]

you don't seriously mean to use lusty w/ aug

[cobalt rapids]

nano haku

[atomic abyss]

[eager mulch]

nano haku are permanently glued to Ryuusei/Tenrai/Ryuusei

[cobalt rapids]

my ships dont like glue

[steady beacon]

You can for fun tbf...
But in seriousness, there are probably better options...

[atomic abyss]

i'll prob go like, indep essex enty lol

[eager mulch]

tbh i think my anti-light cv fleet has their gear all messed up but I’ve never needed to use them

[atomic abyss]

better just to bring another BB fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

finish ur haku and go haku nano avp

[atomic abyss]

im trying to clear temprance

or w/e her name was

[eager mulch]

everything either dies to the 51 ryuusei torps or the bb fleet

[atomic abyss]

man i should have raised howe faster
OH WELL
Hood Dork Warkai for the 2nd BB fleet it is

[steady beacon]

As long as you send them in first, should be fine

[eager mulch]

there aren’t many abyssals that can withstand the pressure of 6 +13 ryuuseis and 2 +13 tenrais

[atomic abyss]

my main one is like
Owari Vanny Soyuz

[cobalt rapids]

thats good

but hopefully u lvled em

coz random 100-110s wont do anything

[atomic abyss]

115

[eager mulch]

5 more

[atomic abyss]

actually wait

i can just go full frenchy for the 2nd BB fleet

[steady beacon]

So... are you just not bringing a CV fleet at all, then?

[eager mulch]

triple CV mob fleet count?

[atomic abyss]

i mean, it's still there if needed
i just don't think it'll do much

fdg is sitting on the mob fleet

[steady beacon]

It's just module problem
She has anti-shell shield

[sweet delta]

Or you can create a thread

[steady beacon]

Then again, I have been told allegedly that there are people who enjoy chancing those 50%s... never seen it for myself, though...

[crisp estuary]

[slate mountain]

So i need to defeat one more escort to get 3 stars but they wont spawn anymore because i cleared it 100%, is this a bug?

This is in hard mode btw

[eager mulch]

back out and turn off clearing mode

[stable badger]

weird question. the reload from fleet tech doesn't add to gear screen? i set my plane timer to fly as a guy in a video, by using faster planes to compensate my lower fleet tech but, i'm still slower.

[steady beacon]

It does, but you might have forgotten to account for skills or cats or... probably something else that I'm forgetting can possibly mess with it

[sweet delta]

do you need help with CM?

[steady beacon]

You're better off using the traneptora calculator, incidentally: https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/
It's not completely perfect, but it's better than using the gear screen numbers if there are a lot of other factors affecting your cooldowns

At least until Thorin perfects his better calculator, soon ™️

[arctic aspen]

what pr should I grind the most for gear?

[frank kernel]

Always wondered, do either of the calcs account for potential global cooldown delays on synced launches

[sweet delta]

considering that it's one tab per ship, no

[hollow gust]

Have you finished all the ships in pr yet?

[arctic aspen]

yeah

[hollow gust]

Then grind either Plymouth gun or CA gun

[arctic aspen]

except that one with the horns

the ssr

[soft raft]

what
Do you have any idea how vauge that is

[frank kernel]

Pls be talking about ruprecht

[arctic aspen]

and the one with the loli face.. the newest pr my bad

is there more than one horned one in newest pr

[sweet delta]

[frank kernel]

You didn't specify which pr unless I missed it

[keen sable]

If I say yes will you say which ship you are talking about

[arctic aspen]

Flandre and the one with horns thats ssr, on pr6

[soft raft]

Felix?

[inland shoal]

Atm I'm just confused by the game tbh

[arctic aspen]

forget everything I said

[soft raft]

[frank kernel]

Likely Shimanto. But you should really get her, she is incredibly useful for the current end game campaign maps.

[arctic aspen]

Nevermind, I do have her finished

its just flanders and purple

[steady beacon]

If you're confused by the game, imagine how bad I have it

[frank kernel]

It may be worth staying with your current pr at least until you have enough bps for the inevitable fate Sims, especially for the gold ships. That way you don't need to go back to pr6 when the Sims are out.

[sweet delta]

but you don't need to deal with slots

[steady beacon]

Exactly. And I'm already confused

[wild whale]

do higher tiers of face research give more bps or should I actually focus on blues as they're fastest

[cobalt rapids]

depends what u need and prios