gameplay-help

[hollow void]

You don't farm stages for gold gear

[viscid swift]

you need ships that can contribute something other than raw AA

[west gate]

Isuzu does no surface damage

[hollow void]

Only boss and elite nodes drop gold gear prints, and campaign only has boss nodes for that

[torn latch]

Hamman 2 is better than Kazagumo?

[thick jolt]

i was just looking for a goal because im sitting at chapter 9 waiting for commander levels

[rocky fjord]

this is without a doubt

[west gate]

OpSi is your friend

[hollow void]

Just farm ship xp

[hybrid forge]

Reno maybe?

[thick jolt]

and my anti-aircraft guns are just random unupgraded purples from boxes

[torn latch]

Why

Hamman 2 is better than Sirius as well then?

[viscid swift]

note that's in the context of W15

[hollow void]

Why would Sirius be relevant in w15

[torn latch]

I don't really know, but that's why I asked

[thick jolt]

should i just auto 9-1 then? 9-4 was somewhat rough even on manual

[whole crypt]

Hamm2 has far better AA and ASW for 14/15, Kazagumo has better non-zero damage and use as 3rd IJN for Shinano/Hakuryuu

[sweet delta]

Try war archives (divergent chessboard D maps) if you can. If not, play one of the Polaris SP5 in war archive or whichever has oil cap

[hollow void]

Well short answer is, she is irrelevant in campaign for most part

[thick jolt]

doesnt chapter 9 onward have oil cap too? wasnt that the point of getting to it?

[sweet delta]

War archive has better exp or coins and especially drops

[gray mauve]

Who are the ships in battleship class that you can retrofit

[sweet delta]

[whole crypt]

well if you have trouble with 9 then Polaris should be easier too

[torn latch]

I see, and how about Sirius? Where she best at? I knew she was recommended in previous challenge or something like that

[viscid swift]

Nelson and WV are the only relevant ones

[west gate]

She's used to boost cv damage

[whole crypt]

Sirius is basically just an OS CV buffer at this point

I don't remember using Sirius last CM

[tiny gulch]

warspite, West Virginia, Nelson, hyuuga, ise, fusou, yamashiro, nevada, Oklahoma I think is all of them

[torn latch]

Soo between Sirius and Kazagumo if we ignored their ASW and AA stat (like for OpSi for example), Sirius better on CV fleet except on shinanoryuu fleet? Or what

[thick jolt]

thanks

[sweet delta]

Ignoring faction, sirius better against temperance and strength, kazag better against hermit

[tough sparrow]

Can’t you just use both

[whole crypt]

the old template was Shinano/Hakuryuu/slower/tank/Kazagumo/Sirius

[torn latch]

So it's just depend on hull type of the enemy then?

[sweet delta]

Well yes because that's what Sirius skill says

[tough sparrow]

Yea that’s what I was thinking of

[empty snow]

seattle got bodied pretty hard when i tried, so probably not
then again i never really knew how to equip her so she might be viable, idk

[whole crypt]

Seattle is just meh

[rocky fjord]

seattle is not good here

[pulsar hornet]

Say, I want to trade a bit more healing for dmg in W15+3

Could I use Volga or would her healing not be enough?

[rocky fjord]

there's no one to replace

[whole crypt]

her AA mode is rubbish and her gun mode doesn't keep up with top CLs

[rocky fjord]

if you replace mushy, you take 3x dmg

[empty snow]

sushi should be fine on flag with both uni and aqui around

[pulsar hornet]

To compensate for the dmg from actually having DBs

[whole crypt]

I'm using VG/Volga/corn for 15

[rocky fjord]

vanguard?

[pulsar hornet]

Was thinking of aquila but hesitating cause the shield is useful...

[whole crypt]

yeh Vanguard

[rocky fjord]

how good is that to full clear

[empty snow]

i thought VG was always a support and not a "real" dps

[whole crypt]

what, lethal 3-star? not trying

[lyric stump]

i cant beat 13-4h qaq

[pulsar hornet]

Fullclear is problematic for me in 15-3...

[whole crypt]

VG does enough and the debuff helps your other ships too, plus good AA

[hybrid forge]

Does level matter for the support fleet? Not sure if they still use their AVI or whatnot

[empty snow]

can always wait for full clear when you have danger safe

[analog igloo]

Im just trying to beat 15-3 first try lol

[torn latch]

Brest or Azuma FS5 for w15 mob?

[jagged elk]

which other meta dossier ships are good?

[whole crypt]

disgust all you want I'm not dalao

[lyric stump]

can someone give a 13-4h boss fleet suggestion?

[west gate]

Brest

[opal stream]

avi from level is nonexistence
you want the level gap to decrease

[hybrid forge]

I've seen some people use Harbin and Yat Sen retro, are they really useful there?

[rocky fjord]

i didnt like them

good enough for first clears

[empty snow]

i didn't bother with harbin cuz i didn't want to mess with her gear since she's in pvp

[whole crypt]

anyway back to 15-4, Houston hasn't shown up

[torn latch]

Doesn't yatsen has meh AA

[hybrid forge]

409 at L125, wait mine is oathed

[rocky fjord]

170% and good aa stat

[torn latch]

I see

[rocky fjord]

85x2

[whole crypt]

Yatsen was probably meh, retrofit helps

[rocky fjord]

it's weaker than ancho ham2

[empty snow]

tbh very few ship can tank as hard as anchor

[lyric stump]

help pls 13-4h

my aa is not enough i cant beat boss

[rocky fjord]

NJ is too weak

[lyric stump]

no musashi will jsut die

[pulsar hornet]

Brest does a bit of healing right? Trrying to figure out why I need her for 15-3... Couldn't make Yatsen + Sandy + Harbin work

[native bronze]

Will next event have an UR?

[rocky fjord]

replace NA2 with cheshire

[native bronze]

Halloween*

[lyric stump]

what about my cheshire?

[rocky fjord]

why you need her? or hwo to make her work?

[empty snow]

you can't really out heal or out sustain hard mode taihou, go all in and damage instead

[lyric stump]

who replace cheshire?

[pulsar hornet]

Just playing around, trying to see what works and trying out the build of another guy here

[rocky fjord]

ancho protects squishier ships better than brest heals
if you're using overall tankier vang then maybe brest better, but test that out yourself

[pulsar hornet]

Anchorage is stuck in the Boss fleet

[rocky fjord]

that could be brest

[sweet delta]

Just win before taihou deleted musashi

[sweet delta]

There's Aquila and sandy, so Musashi should last for more than a minute

[empty snow]

better off with musashi/nj/impla

[lyric stump]

man only 2 rounds

[soft raft]

that looks dead
Both fleets

mainly because the positioning is fucking bonkers

[native bronze]

Are PR UR ships good even without MLB?

[rocky fjord]

it's called DR ingame

[west gate]

Agir and Plymouth are usable without d30 but that's really it

[soft raft]

all research ships need to be at least D30
and pretty much every backliner there needs D30 to even properly function

[hybrid forge]

Musashi/Unicorn/Aquila and Biszwei/Haku/Shinano seems to be a popular backline setup for w15

[native bronze]

Also can I beat 14 stages on full auto?

[lyric stump]

what ca i use for fleet 1?

[pulsar hornet]

Maybe they're using the preload version?

[sweet delta]

#media-content message idk who this youtuber is but surely missing so many catapults and guns is a huge nerf to DPS right?

[soft raft]

it'd be easier if you posted your dock in a thread and specified what content you're doing

[lyric stump]

13-4h ty

[stable hornet]

What would be the best fleets for ch15 considering I basically have all the ships and everything other than pr6 at dev 30

[knotty dome]

if i'm looking at this right, according to chronological release, the next few reruns should be shima uvh kron with no events in between?

i only see some minor small events and reruns

[pulsar hornet]

Shimanto not leveled up right?

[soft raft]

correct

[knotty dome]

thanks

[native bronze]

Need help for 14-3

[lyric stump]

heres my dock @soft raft

thanks a lot

[soft raft]

In a thread

That way you dont clog chat

[lyric stump]

how i do that'

[plain saffron]

3 SR 2 Elite event

[soft raft]

right click (or hold down on mobile) on a message then press create thread

[keen lake]

what fighters for support fleet

[stable hornet]

Dev 29 lol

[soft raft]

it's a typical SR&Elite event

we just had a UR last month and if we had a UR, we would've:

• Had a Livestream to announce it
• A fuck ton more hype

[native bronze]

Does fleet technology matter?

[lyric stump]

13-4h ty

[plain saffron]

i think this event have more hype than UR event tbh

[rocky fjord]

oh the tempesta thing?

[native bronze]

How do I boost my fleet power further? Gold plates are hard to get, so only farming fleet tech?

[lyric stump]

cad can u help me for 13-4h?

[plain saffron]

equip all UR gear, either bad or good, on all ship
And fleet power is useless metric

[lyric stump]

thanks (see my thread ty

[pulsar hornet]

I think that's good enough :V

[analog igloo]

finally beat 15-3. Used jarvis to tank

[stable hornet]

Do you need asw for 15?

[sweet delta]

don't need

but should bring

[pulsar hornet]

Anyways, I need help here. Should I slap in the faster firing Jap HE barrage gun? She's mobbing

[native bronze]

Does 15 drop gold plates?

[plain saffron]

twin 410 yes

[native bronze]

Why does 15 not drop gold plates? 😦

[plain saffron]

how much better w15 for cog chips than w14

[soft raft]

doesnt really matter when she's still gonna overkill them all the same

[manic fossil]

How would shimanto fit into any pve fleet?

[soft raft]

no campaign maps drop gold plates

[plain saffron]

because devs decided that

[pulsar hornet]

This right? If it is... There goes my stock...

[soft raft]

Mobbing off tank DPS

[manic fossil]

AA carry a la sandy light?

[soft raft]

Twin 410 still good investment for when Musashi's fighting light armor bosses, not a complete waste

tho that means she cant really sync with Helena consistently but oh well

[native bronze]

And why can I not upgrade my purple plates and gear parts to gold 😢

[opal stream]

cuz you cant

[viscid swift]

the devs decided you can't

[manic fossil]

Because devs decided so

[soft raft]

Just go grind opsi

[native bronze]

Start a petition!

[opal stream]

yea in #game-feedback

[manic fossil]

Next you know you can upgrade gold books to rainbow books

[plain saffron]

just wait another 3 years

[manic fossil]

Maybe if a tier above rainbow is released

[analog igloo]

would cost an arm, a leg, and tons of gems

[native bronze]

And a soul

[opal stream]

just buy AL and decide whatever you want
but this is #game-feedback teritory

[native bronze]

AL is the greatest gacha game to mankind tho other than for those things

[native bronze]

(I’m getting paid to say that)

[hybrid forge]

So I'm thinking something like... Musashi/Unicorn/Aquila, Brest Cheshire Plymouth and Biszwei/Haku/Shinano, Agir Sandy Harbin ? Sub fleet is the wolfpack and max level Lusty/Indom/Imp for the support?

[viscid swift]

go shit post in #al-general

[weary gust]

Musashi gets wrecked in w15. All damaged directed towards her = dead sushi

[hybrid forge]

Could put her in flag

[viscid swift]

if you have the right set up then she's most stable for W15

[languid solstice]

she lives fine if you build your fleets correctly

[hybrid forge]

The clear posts above all used Musashi

[native bronze]

Is there a good tier list?

[opal stream]

no

[soft raft]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home for campaign up to W13 tho dont cite it like it's the bible
it's a good gear rec source too as long as you read the gear descriptions

[pulsar hornet]

Not enough healing for Mushashi then. She will take a beating in W15... But it's absurd how much she can take

[opal stream]

more like you lack aa

[hybrid forge]

Musashi/Unicorn/Aquila, Brest Cheshire Plymouth
Biszwei/Haku/Shinano, Agir Sandy Harbin
Sub fleet is the wolfpack
max level Lusty/Indom/Imp for the support
Anyway, any thoughts on the above? I don't have Dev 30 Shimanto

[sweet delta]

Sandy must be swapped with Cheshire

[analog igloo]

maybe anchorage for agir?

[hybrid forge]

oh I do have Anchorage

[stable hornet]

Tips, for good AA units?

[sweet delta]

for what content?

[stable hornet]

Ch15

[hybrid forge]

Will I need to siwtch someone for more AA you think? If so I will have to level Reno or Scylla

[languid solstice]

show what CLs u have raised

[sweet delta]

you will have to replace at least 4/6 of the mob fleet and at least 3/6 of the boss fleet @stable hornet
add sandy and cheshire somewhere and bench fdg, perseus, drake, aegir, shimakaze, azuma, and at least one CV

[hybrid forge]

Me or him

[languid solstice]

enty prob

u can show your cls too if u are asking about AA

[sweet delta]

#trophy-room message we got the same mob fleet

[stable hornet]

Kek, any specific facton of ships? (My CLs too)

[hybrid forge]

@sweet delta I got Unzen, though she'll need to be powerlevled to 125

Did you do 15/4?

[sweet delta]

for 15-1 and 15-2 you can get away with generically good ships plus sandy

from these CLs it's just ply, sandy, and maybe harbin

[analog igloo]

which is worse bb or cv node for Ch 15. I need to make a choice lol

[stable hornet]

Not seattle?

[hybrid forge]

What about Reno? Don't usually see her mentioned

lol

[sweet delta]

reno only has juneau level AA and does nothing else. Juneau is also a very poor pick

[analog igloo]

free heals

[stable hornet]

I'm guessing the idea are skills that decrease AA damage taken

[sweet delta]

free (100 gem) heal for the whole fleet every battle

the idea is good ships that combine to form a fleet that can survive all the airplanes, subs, and BB shelling

[plain saffron]

you want to kill the cv node asap anyway

[stable hornet]

ah would it be worth finishing up shimato? (i know i speelled that wrong)

[sweet delta]

i dont think they mean that beautiful cv node

[plain saffron]

wait the cv support is separate from normal cv?

[lyric stump]

sara can u help me with my 13-4h?

[plain saffron]

i thought they replaced normal cv with the support one

[lyric stump]

do i need diff planes?

[sweet delta]

it's a special and guaranteed spawn, not a replacement or random spawn

[hybrid forge]

It would be, but I used up all my prints on Felix to get her out of the way myself so now I have to wait for Shimanto rip.

[lyric stump]

like diff fighters for aa?

[plain saffron]

i haven't do 13-4h so idk

as long as you don't use rocket fighter it should be fine

[stable hornet]

so something like this?:

[opal stream]

what is your obsession with sandy tank

[stable hornet]

lol dident order them kek

[viscid swift]

those fleets are still dead

[rocky fjord]

i mean, cant they test anything

theyre at ch15 and still dont know what their ships do?

[stiff knoll]

is there exp farming command to see best maps to farm?

[forest palm]

me who has to look at the wiki for a refresher

though at some point it becomes autonomous, so you could forget exactly what they do, but understand what they're purposed for

[opal stream]

you only need to remember the top 50 ships anyway

[forest palm]

exactly

[soft raft]

12-1/12-4 are the most popular spots

[stiff knoll]

thank you

[stable hornet]

kek, i threw my usual fleets at 15 but ran face first into the 400 planes

[elfin hollow]

Hi! I’m looking for recommendations for an elite or below (or SR and below retrofit) DD or CL of the Royal Navy

[sweet delta]

to do what?

[elfin hollow]

I need a DD or CL and I don’t have SR bulins

[boreal temple]

do we have setups for w15 now or do i just make thread, drop dock and pray i have ships for it

[sweet delta]

aurora is a fine ship to level up if you're farming campaign for pr exp

[tiny gulch]

Javelin

[elfin hollow]

Javelin is already max level so I wanted to develop other ships 😔

[eternal moth]

What is this for?

[sweet delta]

for 15-3
https://renhex.github.io/alft/26 full tech lethal 3 star without subs
https://renhex.github.io/alft/27 zero tech rng lethal budget win

[elfin hollow]

There’s no real explanation. Just for fun I guess?

[tiny gulch]

how about Eskimo, have her? Great way to make your ears bleed and get a little quality fleet tech in the process

[eternal moth]

I'm trying to figure out why you'd need both a specific faction and hull type

[sweet delta]

🍅 just try 15-1 because you can't do 15-3+

[elfin hollow]

Specific faction because I’m 4 tech points away from RN level 9, and DD/CL because spread slash attack

[boreal temple]

i shall wait for more stronk rainbow then

[elfin hollow]

I do have Eskimo 🤩

[tiny gulch]

Godspeed 🫡

her voice lines are brutal

[eternal moth]

People play with sound?

[analog igloo]

in public too

[elfin hollow]

Can confirm

[tiny gulch]

Hardy and Vampire are the other two English DDs I’d consider leveling for tech

if you want a practical ship with real use cases, go for Aurora

[errant surge]

Should I set research to PR2 if I am trying to get FdG? Or keep it at 4

[native prawn]

This boss fleet keeps dying on 13-3 hard
Why?

[elfin hollow]

I retired my only ever aurora over a year ago
As for Eskimo you were right, her voice lines are something.
Thanks for the advice

[fluid brook]

You can just coin fdg so keep it at pr4

[errant surge]

thanks guys

[analog igloo]

w13 is planes right? is your back or frontline dying?

[native prawn]

Nah my flagships

[analog igloo]

maybe sandy/shimanto/ancho frontline? Could try NJ instead for flag

[native prawn]

I'm already using sandy on mob fleet
Also, Ancho is in boss fleet

[paper mural]

Is testing still underway, regarding the best fleet for W13? What about W15 (I assume it's more likely the case there)?

[viscid swift]

W15 we've just about figured out the mob fleet, boss fleet is still very much a WIP

[gray pawn]

does opsi snapshot ships equipment when deployed or is it updated live?

[tiny gulch]

mob fleet main fleet is pretty much standard at this point

[sweet delta]

everything is live except for guild boss support ships

[tiny gulch]

vanguard has a lot of different options

[paper mural]

Whatever consensus is reached by testers, is there a place, like a document receiving updates every now and then, where one can read about it?

[viscid swift]

this channel

[tiny gulch]

i don't think there's a shadowy legion of testers collaborating in such a fashion on EN server

[opal stream]

there no such thing as that
even different people testing give different result

[tiny gulch]

more like a bunch of [redacted] all trying to get houston 2 in whatever way they can

mostly everyone's gear and ship situation is different so ppl are just using what they got to clear the stages

[rocky fjord]

different people on the same fleets give different rng

so the testing is long and sometimes specific problems

[inner delta]

it's not even the fleet, it's the auto being shit and different star enemy spawn

[rocky fjord]

if the tester doesnt record their star spawns then that is skill issu

[velvet pumice]

is there any torpedo that intercepts plane except wyvern and breguet?

[viscid swift]

nope

[tough sparrow]

1-1 farming is usually uni + some dd that spams barrage right

Like if I had to farm an event stage

[sweet delta]

I read that as American quad mags hit subs so you want a torpedo that flies out of the water and hits planes

[torn latch]

Sandy in mob for w13 is overkill, you can use Seattle or any good AA ship on your mob instead

And put sandy in boss

[velvet pumice]

soo only breguet and wyvern?

[viscid swift]

yes

[velvet pumice]

kinda need it for support cvs in world 15

[viscid swift]

you don't, only fighters are used

TB is just a stat stick

[velvet pumice]

is it cuz i dont see in the guide

[viscid swift]

I'm currently farming 15-4 so yeah

[cedar harbor]

I still haven't beaten 13-1 what stats should I prioritize

[viscid swift]

what?

[velvet pumice]

see this thing confuse me cuz wyvern and breguet has interception capabilities...

[rocky fjord]

@topaz smelt did you ever confirm reverse mods on 15 torps

[viscid swift]

they do, but the support fleet only checks and uses fighters

[velvet pumice]

is it confirmed im also looking at datamine right now

[viscid swift]

^

[velvet pumice]

ill just have to see it for myself

[inner delta]

it's purely only fighter intercept

wyvern does not count

[velvet pumice]

welp already tried

do you use this on boss? @viscid swift

[viscid swift]

absolutely not

[inner delta]

you want all the intercept you can have

[spring scarab]

Hey anyone can suggest is this fleet good enough till which chapter of the game and should I limit break them all ( sry for werid questions but iam a newbie 😅)

[velvet pumice]

so your using breguet

[viscid swift]

you need all the AA you can get

[velvet pumice]

ok ill bring back my old setup to farm 15 - 4

[viscid swift]

W15 requires dedicated fleets
whatever you had previosuly probably won't work

[sweet delta]

It's good until chapter 10 to 12 with reasonable leveling, but drop long island asap

[velvet pumice]

Breguet or Tigercat?

[spring scarab]

What can I use instead of long Island?

[inner delta]

what for flex slot?

[velvet pumice]

Haku and Shinano @inner delta

[viscid swift]

neither, Flapjack

[sweet delta]

Many options, enterprise or Saratoga or even the gray rarity Ranger

[velvet pumice]

i only have 2 of flapjack.... and equiped with my mob cvls

[inner delta]

just tigercat then

[viscid swift]

you want to craft more then

[spring scarab]

Okay thanks for the help man

[viscid swift]

the difference starts to add up in W15

[inner delta]

is it? i only used like 1 flapjack and it's fine

[sweet delta]

This made me craft 4 flapjacks today

[velvet pumice]

i dont have anymore mats i just used it to craft my 3rd UR AP gun

[inner delta]

again, it's not locked to flapjack

[viscid swift]

did you get to 15-3?

[inner delta]

i finished 15-4

[velvet pumice]

welp ill just use Tiger cat

i need my flapjacks to my mob fleet

[inner delta]

ask chien, the difference doesn't matter much, like sure flapjack have the best aa because it's slow but if you don't have it you can just do tigercat if you don want/can't craft more

[elfin hollow]

Fleets for w15

[velvet pumice]

it has more hp

[inner delta]

the enemy AA boat literally just kills them and not caring what fighter it is

that's the least of your concern

[velvet pumice]

already cleared world 15 im just farming to safe and do full clear

[pulsar hornet]

There should be more mob that would appear after first boss in W15-3 right? Trying to figure out the best way to clear it.

[viscid swift]

yes, strat is to use the mob fleet to clear the first boss and the remaining mobs until the 2nd boss shows up

[heavy shale]

Houston 2 any good or just collection

[velvet pumice]

why theres no dept charge in cl in fleetmaker in slaimuda

[plain saffron]

use that other site instaed

[ember totem]

Houston2 seems mid but i won't say no to +1 CL FP fleet tech

[velvet pumice]

other site?

[sweet delta]

nobody uses slaimuda fleetmaker

[night sparrow]

Do you guys use mob fleet to fight the first two bosses in 15-4, or have boss fleet fight first and third? I tried the latter, but my vanguard gets deleted before I can finish the third boss

[sweet delta]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[velvet pumice]

oh i tought everyone uses slaimuda website

[sweet delta]

add a healer like volga to the boss fleet

[opal stream]

alternate
mob1 boss2 mob3
or boss1 mob2 boss3

[night sparrow]

hmm I might mess with mob vs 3rd fight. I have volga in mob fleet right now but I'm open to messing around

[opal stream]

mob require some ammo node cheesing
basically the 1st time you reach 3 ammo remaining take the ammo node
leave 1 ammo behind for final boss

[sweet delta]

at that point i don't think the boss fleet can be called a boss fleet

[opal stream]

the simpler way is instead just use the boss fleet for 1 and 3
and make it work

[dusk maple]

what's the best fleet to take on boss 1 & 3 in 15-4?

[rocky fjord]

i havent been making it work

[rocky fjord]

arent you on safe now

[dusk maple]

threat lvl 6

[errant surge]

If I already have a MLB SSR, do I just retire all future copies?

ty

[sweet delta]

whats the timing for triple carrier on lethal

[sleek spade]

do I use triple CVs on boss fleets in C13?

[keen sable]

It's highly doubtful you have 6 CV better than your best BB

[sleek spade]

my CVs aren't bad

[warm flax]

Use atleast 1 BB to snipe the command ship

There's like 2 that spawns

[sleek spade]

My BBs are worse than CVs lol

[viscid swift]

You don't have a single good BB?

[stable hornet]

thanks these helped quite a bit lol

[sleek spade]

yea I really dont

[rocky fjord]

u posted zero bbs

[warm flax]

Then get one

[sleek spade]

cus all my BBs are cope lmao

[sweet delta]

level up the good ones then

[viscid swift]

Hood, Nelson post retro, Owari

[hollow gust]

owari is more useful then half ur " good cv"

[sleek spade]

Im lvling her. all my girls are since 2019

[rocky fjord]

owari is the best of gold bbs

[calm notch]

does the CV Support fleet only count the fighters? What about the rest of its equipment?

[keen owl]

Does having 0 ammo reduces the affinity gain?

[rocky fjord]

only fighters intercept, but avi contributes to fighters

[viscid swift]

Only fighters everything else are just stat sticks

[sleek spade]

or should I just leave C13 for like 5-6 months later when I get to roll good UR and get good research girls?

[hollow gust]

use owari ffs

[keen owl]

Thnx

[viscid swift]

Ch13 is easy, just level up your good BBs

[rocky fjord]

Owari is faded into the background

[sleek spade]

she's like lv 87 it's gonna take at least a month lol

[hollow gust]

it takes a week at most

[viscid swift]

Takes like a week in w12

[sleek spade]

also saving oil for event so I can't just unload

[keen sable]

you're on 13. why would it take a month for owari

[viscid swift]

Saving oil for events is pointless

[hollow gust]

it takes me a week and a half to max a shitter,owari is easy asf

[keen sable]

even on 12 you don't have 6 CV better than best BB

also using capped ships on 12 is really sus

[sleek spade]

how come?

[viscid swift]

Besides you won't be farming and event for the full 2 weeks

[warm flax]

That's the thing I don't understand the most lol

[viscid swift]

W12 is piss easy

Using capped ships is a massive waste of xp in w12

[sleek spade]

don't they go into academy anyways?

or that's not how it works?

[keen sable]

capped ships or saving oil? Spending oil on capped ships has 0 benefit to you. Your farming fleet should be composed of as many uncapped ships as possible so that the oil you spend actually does something

[stable hornet]

been sleeping on musashi and aquilla

[sweet delta]

off flag musashi when theres ply

[calm notch]

Is that your ch15 mobbing?

[stable hornet]

she was low

only temporarly moved

[keen sable]

you get approximately 1/6th the xp you should have gotten. Also it's not too hard to cap the lecture hall.

[pulsar hornet]

How many more ships appear after you kill first boss in 15-3?

[sweet delta]

any level 100+ ship works for lecture hall, not just 120

[sleek spade]

my uncapped ships struggle cus they got no AA

[viscid swift]

Get better equips then or farm 12-1

[sweet delta]

are you asking for 3 star or just clear? for just clearing, first boss killed -> kill 2 more mobs -> last boss spawns

[keen sable]

you don't even need AA on chapter 12 mobs

[viscid swift]

Can also try circular

[frank pulsar]

you do, just not that much

[keen sable]

plane hell only occurs on bosses

[pulsar hornet]

For 3 star. Thinking of clearing every mob first before going for the first boss or would that force the game to spawn more ships?

Should I leave two mobs before I kill first boss?

[sweet delta]

i wouldn't want to fight the first boss while out of ammo

[stable hornet]

this is

[sleek spade]

well I'll try to get some AA first I guess

[warm flax]

Is there a difficulty gap between w14 and 15?

[topaz smelt]

Wasn't too bad I killed -3 2nd boss with my mob fleet on 0 ammo

[calm notch]

thanks looking for inspiration since Im starting to hit a wall already

[sweet delta]

15 is only like twice as hard as 14 if difficulty can even be measured

[stable hornet]

for me alot of the difficulty was that im apparently shit at proper team building

[sleek spade]

that's pretty hard!

[stable hornet]

kms

[sleek spade]

life

[calm notch]

lol this is pretty sad...I have to go back to ch13 to farm gold for equipment upgrades lol...

[keen sable]

seriously. Unicorn and ryuuhou can carry a L1 ship through 12. If they can't carry a L87 Owari then the issue isn't AA.

[sleek spade]

it's not just leveling. I have no spare gear

[stable hornet]

@sweet delta never thought to put ASW planes on unicorn tbh

[inner delta]

1 is enough

[sweet delta]

1 is enough for clearing

Lethal 3rd star has too many out of ammo subs

[stable hornet]

what one do i replace?, either?

[calm notch]

wait theres subs on ch15?

[sweet delta]

They're about the same but I prefer to kill the swordfish

15-4 and 15-3 Reconnaissance Fleets only

You can even beat 15-3 with zero ASW, just avoid all Reconnaissance fleets meaning quit the sortie if too many of them spawn

[calm notch]

lol...I need more gold then damnit

lol Id prefer not to do that

[rocky fjord]

do enemy subs benefit from smoke eva rate

[sweet delta]

Yeah better take at least one hedgehog because medium recon fleets are free healing

[pulsar hornet]

I should probably ditch these for pancakes right?

[sweet delta]

Smoke gives eva rate?

[keen sable]

you're not using a BB. why would gear for your first BB be an issue? And it's not like amagi and nagato suck.

[rocky fjord]

didnt enemy smoke disturb aiming and increase eva rate

[sly solar]

I've got both Unicorn and Perseus, is either one better than the other? Or is it just dealers choice?

[rocky fjord]

unicorn is better everywhere

[sly solar]

Rog, appreciated

[pulsar hornet]

So Focke Wolf still better for support?

[stable hornet]

so whats the idea with yorktownII here? like half her kit is basically unused since she dosent have 3 USS ships. (im probally missing something)

[velvet pumice]

how to export the fleetmaker into image?

[sweet delta]

Take a screenshot of it

[sleek spade]

I do use BBs tho? It's just I don't have good BB gears, nor have enough plates. Even Nagato and Amagi has cope gear and Im using them most lmao

[sweet delta]

UR ship is UR ship, and she has interception except that she doesn't because I put skyraider boss is easy enough that it doesn't matter

[stable hornet]

fair

[sleek spade]

I mean I guess I can move the gear from another girl over to Owari and speed level her

[keen sable]

How is that cope gear? There's literally nothing you can do better

[sleek spade]

it's not even +10 lol

[stable hornet]

amagi generally dosent run that MG you generally want one of the faster fireing ones iirc

[keen sable]

The weapon is 10. That's all that really matters

[keen sable]

Amagi is a fast loader. Why would you cripple with barrage gun

[stable hornet]

becuase shes a barrage ship so you want something like this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_406mm_(SK_C/34_Prototype)

[sleek spade]

well then I guess I'll move Nagato's gear over then. Owari's 2nd skill is still lvl 6 tho does that matter?

[sleek spade]

I dont have that lmao

[stable hornet]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(3rd_Year_Type)#Type_3-0 works too

[pulsar hornet]

Just not the confetti gun please. The gold one I mean

[sweet delta]

Amagis barrage is weak, and even UR BBs with strong barrages don't use barrage guns besides 457 or musashi410

[sleek spade]

yea I know abt that

[stable hornet]

really? this is how she has been built since she was released

[sleek spade]

so should I use twin purple 410 or triple US 406 guns for Owari?

[sweet delta]

You mean like how Hood has been built with twin 381 since she released?

[pulsar hornet]

Hmmm. So why is Sky Raiders used in support carriers again?

[cinder lodge]

would giving a ship exp books contribute to the exp requirement thing when researching ships or no

[sweet delta]

Skyrocket? Good aa dps

[sweet delta]

Anything works while leveling up in chapter 12. Just have it +10

[pulsar hornet]

Hmmm... Worth getting now or are we still in the experimental stage so best hold off for now?

[sleek spade]

ok then ty

[vale spindle]

skyrocket is gear lab and its purple so should be easy to get

[muted badger]

im doing a light cv fleet rn and im wondering whether to use centaur cause of her fighters or to use avp?

[sleek spade]

This good? Out of AA so spare roomba would have to do

nice!

[sweet delta]

Opsi anti-light? Use dev30 or higher AvP , freeze is free damage

[elfin hollow]

anybody has a top 10?

(top 10 shipgirls)

[muted badger]

ok thanks

[sweet delta]

Ships do different things

[muted badger]

rainbow spam
Ok btu seriously tho there is no definitive best shipgirl

some might do better damage but arent used over another ship cause they have support

use your brain a little and find out which ships are best to use for what you're trying to use them for

[elfin hollow]

areee you talking to me

[muted badger]

indeed i am

[elfin hollow]

if so I'm talking about looks and personality

[plain saffron]

1.saratoga
2.saratoga
3.saratoga
4.unicorn
the rest

if you want top based on looks and persona ask #al-general

[muted badger]

1. haku
2. blueford from jonjers strange odyssey
3. enty
4. yorktown
5. me

[elfin hollow]

wait i thought this was al general

[opal stream]

look again

[elfin hollow]

mb

my apologies for interrupting

[keen owl]

Who is Blueford?

[wispy marlin]

only fighters intercept in the w15 support fleet?

[elfin hollow]

Yus

[fickle scarab]

Am I supposed to use ammo for this boss?(2nd one)

[crimson glacier]

i used ammo for it

[tiny gulch]

can't believe the solution for low oil cost safe fleet was right in front of us the entire time

[pulsar hornet]

Hmmm?

[tiny gulch]

hatsuzaki and wakatsuki

[wispy marlin]

is cheshire better aa carry than sandy cuz she has two aa guns?

[crimson glacier]

no

[pulsar hornet]

Wait, where do they fit in? Mob for w15?

[tiny gulch]

mob and 2 bosses

2:1 for 2nd boss

i'm at 520 oil per run with a consistent fleet

[crimson glacier]

thats pretty good

[pulsar hornet]

Those two are enough for W15?

[crimson glacier]

15-4 bosses are super easy

thats why theres 3 of them

[pulsar hornet]

Ahhh. Hmm, could this work in 15-3 safe or not?

[tiny gulch]

fleet 1 fights everything except boss 2
fleet 2 fights boss 2
subs only need called on boss 3 altho an extra call on the first gigacv is comfier

what's in 15-3 safe?

[crimson glacier]

i saw something similar but with jervis and janus instead

[harsh rover]

If my fleet is autoable on 14-3, it would also be autoable on 14-4? ive heard 14-3 is harder than 14-4

[tiny gulch]

yeah that was the framework i used

[pulsar hornet]

Trying to full clear it... Kinda grasping at straws cause too smooth brained for it

[tiny gulch]

twitter jplao

[tiny gulch]

this is strictly for farming hou2 for lower oil cost, wouldn't work for a full clear. you're avoiding scary nodes

[crimson glacier]

also is your hatsu really 116

[tiny gulch]

117 now

[crimson glacier]

nice

[ember totem]

basically avoid BB/CV node whenever possible

[crimson glacier]

seems like safe really reduces the amount of triforces too

[ember totem]

that...probably does feel true from my experience as well actually

[tiny gulch]

even 2* BB is sketchy, best to just to stick to destroyers

haven't had a run yet where i had to settle for something else

[crimson glacier]

the guy rated 2 star BB as biggest danger

as more dangerous than triforce BB

surely this will work right

[tiny gulch]

maybe could

[crimson glacier]

death is just part of the experience anyway

[tiny gulch]

i like wakatsuki and hatsuzuki for the thematic reasons

[pulsar hornet]

Hmmm, would Plymouth work better over Harbin for full clearing?

[tiny gulch]

playing both sides so they always end up on top

[dim summit]

Is August worth building still if I have Implacable?

[pulsar hornet]

Is your implacable already at 125?

[dim summit]

108 so no

[crimson glacier]

do you bother to move the light fleet on front of the megacarrier thing

or do you just kill it first

[tiny gulch]

I move it

[sour kettle]

Eldrige Is a good DD?

[crimson glacier]

nah

[sour kettle]

Ok save my merit for other

[near cargo]

Where's good place to farm coins?

[rapid moth]

13-4 and 12-4

[undone iron]

which would have higher prioirty for crafting, flapjacks or wyverns?

[fickle scarab]

Flaps

[plain saffron]

imo wyvern

[rapid moth]

Wont the UR prints prevent one from focussing too much on wyvern over flapjack anyway? Or are the electronics the bottleneck

[undone iron]

in the long run it probably will, i dont have much of either atm though so I wasnt sure which one to spend electronics on

[plain saffron]

there's also other alternatives to flapkjack

[near oracle]

Is kitakaze worth it

[south sequoia]

I don't recall flapjacks taking electronics

[undone iron]

they do, that alongside of ordnance and plans

[near oracle]

^

[elfin hollow]

She's a good gun dd.

[near oracle]

Alr

[queen veldt]

Hi, just comeback to the game. I never knew how to play properly, and i don't know a good combination for fleets? Any youtube good guides? Or few tips?

[fickle scarab]

No good yt guides, never use those

[queen veldt]

This is what i have. Can i put them to good work?

[fickle scarab]

Can you show the rest? This game isn't always about rarity

Also I believe there was a beginner guide somewhere

[rapid moth]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 New Player's Guide by .Snub and Community TL

🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[fiery swan]

How do I survive torpedo boat daily raid level 90

[rapid moth]

Manually dodge, or just kill the torpboats

[fiery swan]

I suck at manual

[fickle scarab]

I don't think you have a choice bud

[dusk maple]

stack dmg reductions skills like helena, nj, vittorio, noshiro, odin, duca, torpedo bulge

[blissful grove]

If you cannot dodge everything and do not have limited ships (from fluffs recommendation) then use Odin, Helena, UniKai+second healer. For other 2 vanguards prob phoenix and neptune/anchorage

[fiery swan]

I have all those ships except nj

[blissful grove]

Then add UniKai. Heal is always good

[dusk maple]

that's fine, put helena in front and keep you frontline stable like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Dead61mRk

[grim siren]

Is it 162 cubes per month right?

[vagrant spoke]

hi im new to azur lane, when do ships from event return?

[rapid moth]

168 guaranteed.

[supple canopy]

Anyone have any build setups for world 15? I just started watching the kimocheese video bc he’s the popular one that shows up

[crisp estuary]

Which event ship specifically

[vagrant spoke]

latest one

hatsuzuki

and owari

[crisp estuary]

Unzen? Give it a year. There are other URs without a rerun yet

[vagrant spoke]

[austere jewel]

Is there a gif of tempesta’s secret shipyard online? Like an artist or image board? I really like the animation and would hate for it to just never be able to be seen again. Thought this would be the best place to ask, since people in this channel seem knowledgeable

[opal stream]

https://twitter.com/oishii_unaju

[austere jewel]

But the gif from tempesta event

[opal stream]

ask the artist not us

[austere jewel]

Ahh I see

[still ember]

For augment modules ... how do i get rid off or delete all those unused modules in the depot to save space eg all those blue color ones?

[austere jewel]

Good idea

[south sequoia]

Feed them to other augments

[brittle willow]

Who.should i change.?

[south sequoia]

Pennsylvania if you have some other good backliner that doesn't interfere with hoods barrage

[elfin hollow]

Your cats

[south sequoia]

Oh yeah, those cats too

[elfin hollow]

Is your Uni retrofitted?

[brittle willow]

Currently working on it

[brittle willow]

Like who? This is all the ships i got

[south sequoia]

Other than akagi muse, no one really changes over pennsylvania

I'd suggest holding off on any changes until next week, we're getting a major event

[opal stream]

nelson but only retro

[brittle willow]

M'kay thanks!

[bleak mica]

how's the time-fuzed AA guns compared to the rainbow AA?
(I mean how the performance is in W15)

[chrome fox]

Is a tempests event major??

[pulsar hornet]

Is 15-4 harder than 15-3 or easier?

[dusk maple]

harder

[pulsar hornet]

So strategy so far is just to focus fire on the DD nodes and maybe treasure nodes right? Just avoid everything else

Hmmm, when does W15-4 get easy enough to not worry about using subs? When its low or safe difficulty?

[dusk maple]

safe ig, i never used them from start to save oil

[pulsar hornet]

Wait, you can't use Subs on Boss 2?

Oh nvm. I just ran out of sub ammo

[opal stream]

just wait for oil cap

[pulsar hornet]

Currently just trying to get it to 100%

[elfin hollow]

Is messer bad for w15? If so, why?

[elfin hollow]

Yes

[fast quarry]

Hi, i see on some videos that there is rest option in the dorm, how do i unlock this, do i need second floor?

[opal stream]

worse than a purple plane
why would you use something worse that cost more

[steady fable]

Quick question, this a good one or? (Lil fellow is lv 28 btw)

[opal stream]

nope

[pulsar hornet]

Do I need to arm HE or Normal guns in my Boss 3 vanguard for 15-3?

[steady fable]

It isn't?

I thought it was, like, what the hell does it even need then?

[steady fable]

Hm, oh well, i am not gonna get a better one so i'll take the one i have

I don't really care for hypermaxing my fleet anyways

[frank pulsar]

cat rework when again? i forgot

[late flame]

[jaunty vault]

[frank pulsar]

[hybrid forge]

Is Hammann 2 needed w15? I'm not sure if you need an aux DD with Hedgehog + AA to take care of the subs

[analog juniper]

not really

personally running without any dds since the beginning and (semi)-auto since lethal

[south sequoia]

She isn't a need but she would make your w15 runs more comfortable, problem is she kinda goes boom boom easily

[vagrant spoke]

what does main gun +1 mean?

[analog juniper]

fires 1 more salvo

[south sequoia]

Mgm +0/1
Pew
Mgm +1 /2
Pew pew
Mgm +2/3
Pew pew pew

[feral salmon]

I went full Anti Air equip for the CV support fleet? Was it a good idea

[south sequoia]

Basically, your ship gains an additional shot

[south sequoia]

this is especially very important to Battleships

[analog juniper]

also the reason why you want your PR BBs especially at dev 30 as that's where they get the full amount of shots

[vagrant spoke]

excellent. we love more pews

[frank pulsar]

put fighters with strong aa and catapults, thats about it since only fighters will intercept

[jaunty vault]

it wasn't a good idea

AA doesn't matter for the support fleet

[unreal root]

what will be optimal mix-up for coin farm (till 10th world included )

[jaunty vault]

why are you only in w10 with those ships

[unreal root]

11th world was max when i played

and i have cleared 11-1 only

[jaunty vault]

my advice would be to clear w12 and farm either 12-1 or 12-4

[unreal root]

ok ty

[dusty tulip]

what is needed for mob fleet to farm reliably on 13-1 safe? Unicorn retrofit?

[cobalt rapids]

or sandy

[blissful grove]

Yes, and some AA

[cobalt rapids]

or neither if ur ships are stonks

[dusty tulip]

can lvl 100~ ships do fine there i'm chasing cmdr xp for no reason other than why not

[cobalt rapids]

yea

i usually run sandy tank alongside

[dusty tulip]

alright i'll give them good aa guns for the trouble, alright. going to complete tech grind as well

[crisp estuary]

Saratoga or Ark Royal

[boreal temple]

did you guys have a hard time getting bunker hill too? im starting to doubt rng cuz i spent almost 30k oil on 13-4 now

meanwhile new orleans only needed like 4-5k

[late flame]

its rng

[analog juniper]

believe in rngesus

[sturdy flame]

does anyone know if its possible to auto world 15?

[analog juniper]

yes

[sturdy flame]

oh damn who would've guessed lol

[pulsar hornet]

Is this worth it? Thinking of slapping this in to Bisko for W15-4

[analog juniper]

don't craft it, you get those from boxes

also bisko takes cl guns which would be much better

[pulsar hornet]

Wait, meant this

[analog juniper]

would also say don't bother with it, just slap a decent AA gun on her

[fluid brook]

Time fuze aa are actually better tho

More dmg, more range not much spread, altho can only fire in front

And a bit slower

[analog juniper]

wouldn't it be a waste on a bb tho cause you're trading the extra hit from staag for aa?

[fluid brook]

Would personally do as theres a shit lot of planes

Tho idk for boss

[analog juniper]

tbh didn't have much problems without fuze guns in w15

giving better aa to vanguard and carries was very effective tho

[inland shoal]

I'm also still unsure about fuze, kinda doubt it matters any

[fluid brook]

[bleak mica]

try it on Vanguard

[crimson glacier]

cant even use it on vanguard

[blissful grove]

Not worth. Not mention that 127 is bad as statstick.
Use STAAG or regular twin 134 on BBs (if you do not need +hit which is unlikely)

[tawny basalt]

Who should Kearsarge be paired with? BB's or CV?

[blissful grove]

When the battle starts, if there is another Eagle Union ship in your Main Fleet: while this ship is afloat, your CVs and CVLs deal 5% (15%) more airstrike DMG
Yorkii is the most obv option

[analog swallow]

W14 fleet help

[tawny basalt]

So York 2 and NJ or another CV? Trying to keep faction for Jintsuu

[crimson glacier]

zwei would still do more

[fluid brook]

Do hit matter in mobbing? In Story

[blissful grove]

If you want 1 faction fleet then Enty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WiLtbcOh7Q

[tawny basalt]

How does NH2 measure over Anchorage? I feel like I see her suggested or used in every fleet I've looked at for this

[keen sable]

norii is completely different from anchorage

[tawny basalt]

I mean I see that she has a boatload of plane buffs but can she still function as a tank or should I be sweating

[crimson glacier]

pretty sure anchor is like way more tanky

havent seen anyone use nh2 as tank

[opal stream]

na2 gonna explode

[crimson glacier]

actually now that i think about it, i havent really seen anyone use NH2 for anything

[forest palm]

cause a lot of her skills only benefit her, and there's better picks

[keen sable]

tl;dr you don't need speed control on 4th cycle, the goal of your vanguard is to ensure helena doesn't explode

[crimson glacier]

i mean i dont think its suprising

[forest palm]

like if you wanted to USS wank you have Potter, Ham2, and Baltimore

[crimson glacier]

or just dont use uss

[keen sable]

and potter, hamii with kearsarge is just a stupid idea

[uneven badger]

uhh any tips?

[tawny basalt]

So this then? Ignore numbers I haven't moved gear around

[crimson glacier]

that just looks like a bad fleet

[analog juniper]

"total stats"-numbers don't say anything

[cinder bloom]

farm the furthest stage you can in the main campaign

[opal stream]

look like a 500k fleet

[uneven badger]

aight got it

[jaunty vault]

doubt they even have oil cap stages unlocked

[crimson glacier]

balti does AP dmg and is just kinda meh, nh2 is just bad

[tawny basalt]

I think that vid was maybe using it for the slow

[crimson glacier]

yeah but you could just use zwei or imp or both

[blissful grove]

Not worth trying if not 6/6 are lvl125
Just use something else

[keen sable]

there's only 1 way to find out

[opal stream]

that vid took god know how many retries
if you wanna do even worse than that go for it

[keen sable]

although that is a trash 7234

you aren't accomplishing anything with that trash

[opal stream]

imagine your fleet not taking any dmg for half the fight

[blissful grove]

Oh and dev 30 Kear required. Like do not even try before MLB

[tawny basalt]

Doing cube research and praying for good RNG for kear

[keen sable]

jm will be gone before D30

[opal stream]

dude is obsessed with kear
let him cook

[blissful grove]

Enty > Non d30 Kear
Sirius/Kazagumo/Baltimore > Scylla

Oh wait, your Enty is underlevel

Then Bisz or Vanguard

[tawny basalt]

Bisz it is, I don't have vanguard

[blissful grove]

What about uvh?

[cobalt rapids]

poor haku

[gray aurora]

do i do this?
it warns me but i dont quite understand what it does

[cinder bloom]

no, don't; it swaps her to the backline

[gray aurora]

ah ok ty

[autumn fox]

hi guys who is the washington naval treaty aux good for

[fickle scarab]

Pvp

And as a 2nd Eva aux

[dusty tulip]

hit + eva
Usage is very niche, practically pvp only lol

[fickle scarab]

Could work as a 2nd Eva aux for tanks to something

[elfin hollow]

@dusty tulip Regina? Why are u here? This ain't the place u belong

[dusty tulip]

I just like her

And I quit play counter:side ages ago

[fickle scarab]

155kai or plygun for intercept?

[elfin hollow]

Same

[dusty tulip]

Anyway. Any Scharnhorst Meta comps? Wanna do some dossiers

[viscid swift]

Ply gun in all contexts

[fickle scarab]

Idk 155kai has higher burst dmg

[dusty tulip]

Plygun is just better in any way
But in Pve, 155kai is fine for all purposes since frontlines want plygun more

[topaz smelt]

I actually started using reg 155 on w15 when I saw nepgun whiffing

[storm olive]

Which pr ships are nice to have for w15?

[viscid swift]

Shimanto, Brest

[fickle scarab]

Shimanto, maybe anchorage

[fickle scarab]

brest ain't pr

[silver lintel]

chesire not cutting it?

[storm olive]

Pr/Dr then

[viscid swift]

Oh yeah Cheshire as well

[storm olive]

Also any other permanently available ships I should get?

[dusty tulip]

Shimanto, Cheshire, Brest
Quite the checklist

[fickle scarab]

Shimanto, Cheshire, Brest, anchorage, Plymouth, maybe harbin

[dusty tulip]

Indepkai, Unikai, Hood

[fickle scarab]

??hoood??

[storm olive]

I'm already long past hood

[viscid swift]

Jimmy vid, yeah I don't trust it

[fickle scarab]

Ignore yt

I don't too

[dusty tulip]

what jimmy, even without jimmy influence hood is just pretty great for campaign

[pulsar hornet]

I can't seem to Auto 15-4's boss no. 2.

Think having a DD in place of Plymouth would be a good idea or a bad one? I can comfortably do this stage without any change... Its just I want to be lazy :V

The VG dies if I don't manual or reset a lot though this is lethal..m

[analog juniper]

ply doesn't contribute her buff if musashi isn't flag

swap her for someone else

[crimson glacier]

or just use musashi as flag

[pulsar hornet]

Mushashi shouldn't die with this much baby sitting right?

[crimson glacier]

musashi aquila just doesnt care about anything

[pulsar hornet]

Aside from bad RNG

[crimson glacier]

and use double line

[pulsar hornet]

Circle not worth it?

[crimson glacier]

musashi doesnt care

so if your backline isnt dying, you have use no use for AA

[pulsar hornet]

Ohh true true. My backline is healthy enough, Vg is the one having problems

[crimson glacier]

this is what i use on safe, dont use subs and kill all but last boss with

[pulsar hornet]

Any placeholder for Shimanto? Don't have her properly dev leveled.

[crimson glacier]

well some ppl use only 2 frontliners with some subs so id imagine most good ships would fit there

[analog juniper]

harbin, cheshire

[crimson glacier]

i just use shimanto coz i want to use her

also 2nd boss is always only A rank coz of the timer but it just kinda doesnt matter

[analog juniper]

maybe swiftsure or montpelier, just for aa basically

[crimson glacier]

those 2 sound like shit

[analog juniper]

actually used both and it worked, wouldn't recommend otherwise

[crimson glacier]

yeah coz it just doesnt matter on safe that much

sandy would be way better than either of those

[analog juniper]

not even talking about safe

[crimson glacier]

and well, that current vanguard should just do just fine before safe

just use double line

[unborn owl]

should i go to obtain all of explorable zone or clearing all of the stronghold?

[tiny gulch]

do all subs get the royal fortune skill effectively in W15? i thought the free first out of range was skill based but i don't think any of my subs have it

[strange valve]

does anyone know what % of materials get recovered if you scrap upgraded equipment?

[pale crow]

This plane good?

on what ship?

[crimson glacier]

gears are rarely good on specific ships

they are either good or no, and imo that plane is kinda whatever, forgottable

[weary gust]

Skypirate is slightly better barracuda. Only ship that really wants that skypirate is independence if you don't have a wyvern for her.

[crimson glacier]

id use brequet over that too

and probably use cuda over that too, just so i dont have to craft it

[storm olive]

Vit2

[weary gust]

Nah. Skypirate is very good on Independence, it is almost equivalent to a Wyvern for surface damage with her. Brequet has AA but that isn't needed for most mobbing.

[tiny gulch]

doing some tests and optimizations on 15-4 safe and skypirate actually works fine for fleet 2, so one less wyvern needed

[elfin hollow]

How many times do I have to clear stage of the following to get access to another stage
9.3
9.4
10.1
10.2
10.3
10.4

[weary gust]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Campaign

[tiny gulch]

the strongest solo sub is still u47+augment right

[elfin hollow]

@weary gust explain?

[weary gust]

Click on each one and it gives more info...

[solid quail]

between these 2, why is the quardruple preffered over quintuple? Does the quintuple not have curving torps?

[crimson glacier]

faster reload, more dmg per torp

[storm olive]

Ideally you shouldn't be using 1 sub solo

[solid quail]

so both types got curving torps, just a matter of how frequent it procs torps?

[tiny gulch]

i know, i'm trying to save oil though

[crimson glacier]

well it says magnetic

[tough sparrow]

how low are the chances of finding rare loot from cat nodes?

[storm olive]

Then farm in an oilcapped world

[tough sparrow]

i currently am using 2 level 28 ssr cats, and they never seem to find rare stuff

[crimson glacier]

oilcapped worlds dont have houston 2 you know

[tiny gulch]

unfortunately houston 2 doesn't drop in any oilcapped worlds

[weary gust]

They both have magnetic. 5 torps = wider initial spread though, and as mentioned above, lower reload time = more times it goes off, so the 4x one is better.

[soft raft]

Full plate refund and partial coin refund

[crimson glacier]

and quad does more dmg per torp

[tiny gulch]

it's only full plate refund if you upgrade an equip right? outright scrapping only gives a percentage

[strange valve]

I think this is only true for gear lab upgrades

I just tested it... it's 25%...

[solid quail]

If I have resources, I'm better off just crafting them in bulk in gear lab and scrapping most quintuple torps?

[soft raft]

oh you meant regular scrapping
Then yeah 25%

[strange valve]

damn was hoping to recover some gold plates but guess not

[weary gust]

No. You can just shuffle gear between ships, no need to mass produce them unless you're insane like me and trying to gear all ships.

Torps aren't super important for 90% of ships anyways. On most ships they're just there and don't do any significant damage or have related skills.

[solid quail]

sadly I'm like you. Too lazy to swap gears around via preset except for bossing fleets

[strange valve]

I only gear shuffle for min maxed equipment, for general use +10 and having a dozen copies is fine

[weary gust]

Yeah for general use the 5x quintmags are just fine.

[cloud panther]

mob fleet does which boss nodes? first 2?

[weary gust]

They're not THAT much different than the 4x quadmags.

[tiny gulch]

depends on how you're approaching the map, if you're on lethal usually the mob fleet just does the 2nd boss

[solid quail]

Can I also ask, how many experimental XSB3C should I craft? Already have 2 tenrai used by my bossing fleet....

[frank pulsar]

just use helldiver, experimentals arent worth it

[solid quail]

the 4* version you meant?

[stray linden]

how do i obtain hedgedog?

[frank pulsar]

purple one yes

[strange valve]

if you have a lot of spare materials, the answer is as many as you want lol; but not worth going beyond +10

[crimson glacier]

eh imo gold helldiver isnt worth crafting

[frank pulsar]

experimental is only better than helldiver with the +13 isnt it?

[viscid swift]

By any significant margin yes

[crimson glacier]

yeah and i dont think its worth the gold plates

[frank pulsar]

yeah so its not worth then

[tiny gulch]

goldiver had a moment where it was sorta worth but now that anyone can get a tenrai with protocores and they're probably gonna be added to gear lab sooner than later it's probably not worth it considering the insane demand for gold aircraft plates

[viscid swift]

We're still probably at least 2 years off from that

[tiny gulch]

actually nvm drake gun gotta hit gear lab first

consider though that you could +11 a purple helldiver and get the plates back at a later date

[strange valve]

how much difference does 20 AVI make out of curiousity

[crimson glacier]

like no difference

[cloud panther]

fuck died at boss3

musashi was at a lil over daily heal range after boss1

[strange valve]

the 15-3/4 debuff only affects the bossfights right? not mobbing?

[soft raft]

it was a one-time reward for clearing the submarine weekly raid for the first time

So uh

I hope you didnt scrap yours

[solid quail]

Do collab ships contribute to tech points? Was thinking of grinding the elites away from previous gridman & venus vacation ships. Is that a wise move or no?

[crimson glacier]

they dont

[soft raft]

they are not part of any faction that's relevant for tech points so no

[solid quail]

I see. So most of you just mlb it and then retire them afterwards?

[crimson glacier]

not sure what would mlb achieve there

[soft raft]

why would you retire them

[viscid swift]

Why retire ships that may never return

[soft raft]

ngl I just dont even touch the collab elites

[solid quail]

to make space in docks?

[cloud panther]

u buy dock space

[viscid swift]

Just buy more dock space

[soft raft]

yeet some low rarity shitters or buy more space

[solid quail]

guess I shall consider grinding other faction elites instead then

[sweet delta]

pretend you didn't see the w14 thread 🏃‍♂️

[fickle scarab]

Where ?

Why do enemy torps sometimes go invis and why does zwei sometimes fire SINGLE shots?

[soft raft]

that last one might be because all the shells just so happen to be going to the exact same area so they overlap

[knotty dome]

were there any/many important mechanics in the old dossier fights (everything but repulse)? or can i just pretend theyre sandbags and try to dps them?

[fickle scarab]

Subs in gneim/ Schramm

And helmet debuff

[knotty dome]

is the helmet debuff similar to the skill of the playable helmet?

[fickle scarab]

I don't remember either and my helmet doss is 70k

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[fickle scarab]

That (pls ignore team/hp, ik y'all won't)

and ignore that the auto salvo completely whiffed, prolly smoke

[crimson glacier]

smoke does do that

its pretty common for a BB to shoot way off the mark

[fickle scarab]

Smoke takes away 2 shots of my 3?

[whole crypt]

yes

[crimson glacier]

i dont think it removes shells

[fickle scarab]

That makes no sense smh

[crimson glacier]

just makes your shells go all over the place

[whole crypt]

well only the first mount for BBs is manually aimed if you manual, the remaining are auto and can suffer the usual problems with accuracy and concealment

[crimson glacier]

none of that is relevant here tho

[fickle scarab]

I meant the triple gun firing one shell

Is it overlap like blaster said?

[whole crypt]

it didn't hit anything so it's not like there's 3 damage numbers to check it

[fickle scarab]

It ain't the first time this happens, I just happened to be able to record it that time

Also why do enemy torps go invis?

[whole crypt]

never really noticed
then again I never really look at the battle screen anymore

[tiny gulch]

who's the most important wolfpack member? 2 subs seems like it'll be the sweet spot, solo u47 didn't cut it (probably cuz the boss isn't a BB)

[dusk maple]

U81 is the most important

[crimson glacier]

wouldnt other subs be better than non complete wolves

like ldv and archer

[tiny gulch]

maybe, i'm trying to shave 1 oil though by using u557

as long as it S ranks the boss it's good either way

[stray linden]

By bossfleet is struggling with boss in 14-2, could someone have a look?:D

[viscid swift]

Start a thread and post your dock

May as well make sure your mob fleet is good for 14-3

[stray linden]

oki:D

[fickle scarab]

Why did torps go invis and why is zwei always wierd like that?

Is that just yet another zwei glitch?

[sweet delta]

https://youtu.be/wXrzuX8unGs?si=zJ6_pmNkJUQqOQ_z

[crimson glacier]

whats the weird part

[fickle scarab]

That whenever I use zwei game goes glitchy or something like that

[sweet delta]

About the invisible planes and torps, are you playing on a device from 2016?

[crimson glacier]

i have no idea whats the weird part

[fickle scarab]

No, I'm playing on a device from late 2020, with a snapdragon 860 chip whatever that is

[fickle scarab]

Usually when I use zwei stuff like single salvos, red screen, the black hole pushing away enemies instead of succing them, and now I'll be adding invis torps to the list, if I don't fire zwei torps don't go invis

I might ditch zwei at that rate

[dusk maple]

looks like those torps disappear with repair ship's death

[fickle scarab]

Wrong, they disappeared while the repair ship was there, I'll just go to bug report, thx

[lyric hornet]

What levels are best to farmnin Op.S (if possible say like top 5, 90% i wont be able to farm the top 2-3 without loosing my sanity )

[sweet delta]

Do all the special chests and icons on the map first

and then pick a corrosion 5 safe zone to spend extra AP

[silver lintel]

owari vs hood who has better dmg? me with no UR

[sweet delta]

Owari has better everything except art

[strange valve]

just about managed to lethal clear 15-3... wondering what I'd need to do the same in 15-4
Do people use their boss fleets to clear any mobs at all? it gets super rough on the mob fleet near the end

[fickle scarab]

Mob does all mobs and boss 2, boss fleet does boss 1 and 3

[tropic parcel]

does musashi use the 410 kai against all enemy types?

[fickle scarab]

Triple for med/heavy, twin for light/mob

[jaunty pecan]

flandre is the only BB with a preload and 3 MGM eh?

[pliant acorn]

Did they remove the hedge hog in the shop? Or its never been there?

[sweet delta]

Yes, but VV has an effective preload with 3mgm if skill procs

[knotty dome]

can i forcibly leave a dossier fight that i've started or do i have to wait for it to timeout/finish it?

[pliant acorn]

Where xan i get the hedge hog?

[eternal moth]

Never been there. It's a reward for a certain quest and you can't get another one

[knotty dome]

dang ok, thanks

[tiny gulch]

settling on this fleet concept for 15-4 SAFE farming, it's about ~40 oil per run higher than running 3:2 but unbelievably consistent - comfy even. 0 subs required, can bring them and put them on hunting mode or leave them at home. indep gear is scuffed in the image, can make it better if you got another HVARS and Wyvern

[pliant acorn]

Damn .ty bro

[tiny gulch]

@crimson glacier @rocky fjord

[pliant acorn]

Who is the best ship for anti submarine??

[rocky fjord]

depends
they need to live, not just have the best asw stat

[sweet delta]

Someone good with a hedgehog

❓

[pliant acorn]

Like who? Sorry im a dummy

[rocky fjord]

the highest asw stat ship in your current vanguard

[pliant acorn]

Danke

[crisp estuary]

Are we still limited to only one hedgehog?

[pliant acorn]

Yep

[crisp estuary]

Wakatsuki my child, my built in hedgehog

[rocky fjord]

weaker than hedge

[crisp estuary]

Then I will add a depth charge

[amber flint]

Let's say you need both gear and ship prints, you roll trash researches. Which one do you take: 1h30 coins no face, 1h gear blue plates?

[viscid swift]

the former

[sweet delta]

the latter

[jaunty vault]

yes

[viscid swift]

I don't plan on running out of grey plates any time soon

[amber flint]

But what if coins are not a problem?

[jaunty vault]

yes

coins won't be a problem as long as you play the game

[pulsar hornet]

Is 5 slots on the Dorm a big jump in QoL?

[amber flint]

I usually go for the 1h just to get the set out of the way, but Jesus the results are so bad, makes me wonder if it's not better to wait 30 more minutes and at least get a print.

[jaunty vault]

not as big as second floor

[sweet delta]

Running out of gray plates is for people who have skill issue who don't farm maps but still do research

[jaunty vault]

the ship BP isn't guaranteed in 1h30

[sweet delta]

I take gear research because that's what I'll be doing anyways for the rest of the year before next season drops

[amber flint]

But still better odds than getting a rainbow print on gear

[jaunty vault]

true

[sweet delta]

true
but 1 BP of gear rainbow is worth more than 1 BP of ship

Hi I need a good fleet for 15-3 lethal third star that doesn't include Musashi or season VI ships or hammii

[crisp estuary]

Hamman 2 hype didn't die?