gameplay-help

[hollow gust]

Can you really copy these setups :/

[hollow void]

There is, just uses 1 or 2 meta ships

[quartz island]

gear yes, units no--none of my meta ships are leveled or skilled

[hollow gust]

Cant believe double Helena is viable , cinnamon bun is adorable

[hollow gust]

Oneshot uses +13 gear

[quartz island]

was kind of along the lines of whether someone reads dev blogs or something if such a thing even exists for manjuu

[paper lantern]

are cinnamon bun only fleets viable

[hollow gust]

And using the Melena setup kinda wants high cruiser fleet tech

[quartz island]

yeah I'm probably close enough

[hollow void]

Patchnotes come out days prior, with mechanics being datamined during/prior to our maint

[opal stream]

there are more consistent no helena fleets already
but qe meta 75 EVA is still a pain

[quartz island]

so long term design goals is always shrouded in mystery huh

[hollow void]

Shit ton of options to one shot

[red nacelle]

is there any differance between the Classified Files Mission Logger 1-5?

[opal stream]

it just less consistent than arimeta
arimeta literally just vanguard survive boss die

this one is pray for enough damage
you can even run wet noodle vanguard

[jaunty vault]

they give out different lore?

[viscid swift]

pretty much, we're not exactly given a lot of notice for things like events nor is their much in the way of road maps

and leaks are practically non existent for AL

[frank pulsar]

if im gna use carriers against qem without meta ships shld i just go full db

[opal stream]

yes
there is a fleet like that

[jaunty vault]

is hiryuu or repulse better cause i don't wanna raise souryuu

[raven kindle]

does ark do more heavy dmg than implacable

[tiny scaffold]

best map for exp farming under chapter 5? 💀

[jaunty vault]

4-4

[tiny scaffold]

ok

[elfin hollow]

Wonder when will devs add the ability to do x100 opening of teh boxes

[opal stream]

hiryuu will have to use her airstrike damage to kill the knights
same like the BB
souryuu can just kill the knights with her barrage

[elfin hollow]

It might break the game but 10 per when theres over 4digits is takin forever dood

[opal stream]

if your ark hit the 25% jack pot yes
but ark slow is only 60% so it's not guarentee everything will hit, so the chances are lower, you can probably get 25% if you run agir

[novel solar]

Repm can kill knights with her barrage

[raven kindle]

how long does it take to max a meta ship's skills

[opal stream]

minimum 1 week per skill

[raven kindle]

what level do u think i need souryuu barrage to be to be able to kill the knights , my helmet doesnt do enough dmg :/

[opal stream]

idk
we all assume maxed ships
you can probably do some testing

[raven kindle]

its the first skill right

[opal stream]

second

[vale spindle]

no they all hate me

except yuni

[whole crypt]

Souryuu is airstrike + barrage anyway
just that if your barrage does enough you lose less of the airstrike damage

[rose whale]

can I train multiple meta ship's skill at once?

[hollow void]

Level 80 Souryuu enough to kill them

[opal stream]

different ships yes
different skills on 1 ship no

[modest pilot]

yes, you train all of them passively

[rose whale]

thanks. now another question

which meta ship worth training?

[opal stream]

none really
we only using them for 1 fight qe meta
you can skip them as a whole and can still get all qe meta rewards

[modest pilot]

at some point you'll train all of them anyway

[rose whale]

yep since it's passive, i'm wondering which meta ship is stronk enough to farm first

[grizzled current]

is queen meta cannot be 1x run without helena meta?

[modest pilot]

if you put meta ship in your fleet it will train much faster though

[frank pulsar]

isnt there a part of it that needs u to use said meta ship in pvp or whatnot

[rose whale]

they drop from map, also you can buy them from dock's shop which restock every 3 days

[opal stream]

did you all opsi story chapters?

[frank pulsar]

u just get it from clearing zones and exchanging for them from shops and also from daily missions

[jade ibex]

Are there any worth campaign nodes to farm before world 10?

[raven kindle]

how am i suppose to time souryuu against qe in full cv fleet

[frank pulsar]

just do 9-1

[rose whale]

yeah, on the opsi map there are 4 big docks (new york and the likes) which have shop

[frank pulsar]

the blue ones only tho

[rose whale]

yep that's why I said 4 big docks 😄

should have said blue, yep

[opal stream]

is there any current red exclamation on the map?
if there are do it
once you clear chapter 4 you will unlock dailies and all 4 ports
that will be a big part of your material income

[keen sable]

Farm as in you dont even have them yet? Souryuu meta appears to be the most useful for beginners

[rose whale]

no, I have a few of them already, just never touched

[grizzled current]

any subsittue for her?

[raven kindle]

whats chikuma used for

[modest pilot]

Why did he put tenrai on Souryuu and not on the nun?

[opal stream]

azuma

[hollow gust]

Cause timing and converging torps are better

[sweet delta]

Cause ryuusei does more damage

[opal stream]

1/2 chance to increase CV dmg, 1/3 chance to reduce eva rate
RNG gaming

tenrai bad

[raven kindle]

is there a way i can use 2+ junkers because those are most of my +13

[opal stream]

as long as timing works you can run anything

[whole crypt]

tank, moderate CV buff, 3rd IJN ship for Shinano

[grizzled current]

can i swap shinano with hakuryuu and chikuma with agir or something?
(i dont have azuma or chikuma)

[opal stream]

solo haku gaming

[whole crypt]

it's going to be a 2-shot anyway

[grizzled current]

ahh i see

[whole crypt]

the carrier comps are pretty much Helena gaming

then again all of the one shots now count on at least 1-2 Helena procs?

[frank pulsar]

how do u calc the odds of helena proc 3 times in a row

[grizzled current]

is there exist a bb comp for that ?

[dusk maple]

(0.6^3) x 100 %

[frank pulsar]

whats does ^ mean? x?

[opal stream]

looks like someone skip math

[novel solar]

Exp

[keen sable]

coobed

[dusk maple]

exponent, multiplication

[jaunty vault]

bros teaching probability in gph

[frank pulsar]

no its just not part of my current syllabus thats a next year thing if i ever pick a math related course

[whole crypt]

21.6%

[frank pulsar]

[whole crypt]

60%, 36%, 21.6%

[novel solar]

Do I still use shinano if no 3 ijn? or haku

[lapis raft]

nah it's obviously 50/50
either it happens or it doesn't

[hollow gust]

Solo haku gaming kinda ass

[whole crypt]

most of the oneshot comps now are 36 or 21.6%

[opal stream]

~~chances of proccing 2 in 3 times pls ~~

[lapis raft]

[novel solar]

Time to take out ariake again

[whole crypt]

specifically 2, or 2+

[sweet delta]

what about 49% with helmet

[keen sable]

36% isn't right btw. unless you literally mean she has to proc in a row

[sweet delta]

36% is like requiring the second and third scans

[frank pulsar]

i had to google what an exponent is and turns out i did learn it just that they called it power and not exponent

i learnt sth new tdy ig thanks

[whole crypt]

I mean I could spreadsheet out the specific probabilities for each combination of Helena procs but the simple answer is we don't have non-Helena oneshot comps yet

[opal stream]

huh

[whole crypt]

or even a comp that works with even 1 proc regardless of which proc it is

[frank pulsar]

has anyone tried 460 one shot yet for qem

if its even possible

[opal stream]

you mean 1 salvo or 1 fight?
1 fight 460 is like all over the internet

[frank pulsar]

1 salvo

[opal stream]

then no

[whole crypt]

the carrier + Musashi ones are 460 I think, but you won't sync with Helena with some of the shots

you can sync first 2 shots with radar 460 and no SG on Helena

[sweet delta]

on manual it's really easy, just hold the 460 while chipping the boss with other damage

[frank pulsar]

i shld prob be saving my main gun parts for 460 tbh rip my beehive

[whole crypt]

the 410 Musashis are mostly with BB comps

or if you're syncing with Implacable

[frank pulsar]

does qem even move that much tho to need impla

[peak valve]

yes

Hello btw gamers

[frank pulsar]

from what ive seen it tends to move within a small circle

[peak valve]

Does she need slow?

[opal stream]

you can whiff your 1st and 3rd airstrike if you don't time it right

[crimson glacier]

Lol

[whole crypt]

the direction doesn't matter, if she moves you can miss

[peak valve]

mostly because my converging timing keeps missing

[whole crypt]

airstrike comps are basically Souryuu first then whichever other carrier + Implacable

airstrike timings are basically impossible to count on Helena META for the knights

[peak valve]

oh btw, which meta for now to engage the knight dolls without issue?

(nvm just saw Souryuu mentioned)

[opal stream]

you can slow down your CV and time with qe meta stop but then you can't run helena

[whole crypt]

one of the META fleet carriers and/or Helena META, depending

[opal stream]

you can probably sync 1st one and that's it

[sweet delta]

this

[whole crypt]

I'm sticking with 4shot double Helena for now

[opal stream]

but ye unless you slow down your CV, slow is pretty much required

[peak valve]

Hm, so I can just double steam catapult Nanners, Haku or Implac then?

[real shuttle]

for Mob fleet in Opsi, which CV is better? Independence Kai or Aquila DB?

[whole crypt]

if you're running Implacable it's just timing with her so beacon is whatever

[meager hollow]

what's the strongest AP BB comp rn

[frank pulsar]

use both tgt with unikai

[whole crypt]

Musashi/NJ/VG for both HE and AP

[peak valve]

For now I'm mostly running floof with either Gneisenau, Ark or Souryuu for the knights

[whole crypt]

Souryuu probably better of the 3

[hollow gust]

Musashi he is worse then uvh tho , and prob even fdg

[meager hollow]

oh NJ over UvH?

[frank pulsar]

only slightly

[real shuttle]

but i want to bring 1 BB and the other slot is Unicorn kai so I need to choose either one of them tho

[whole crypt]

UvH doesn't sync with VG so it's whatever

[peak valve]

still needs the level tho cause mine is still 110 ish

[meager hollow]

my musashis outdmging by 200k tho

[whole crypt]

it's not like I'm going to swap BBs around just for light

[peak valve]

so yeah

[frank pulsar]

indepkai then

[whole crypt]

Souryuu +100 with skills is enough to drop knights, if it's a reload issue then change planes/keep beacon

[hollow gust]

That’s not gearing correctly

[peak valve]

The only thing that made Sushi worse is dependence on IJN guns tbf. and her reload

[hollow gust]

Ulrich has no problem beating Musashi in he

[frank pulsar]

sushi fdg and uvh dmg are all very close on light armour in practice cuz of hel sync and whatnot

[meager hollow]

my UvH is running the UR gun tho

[whole crypt]

I mean current state of the game you can kill DD/CL enforcers with triple AP, it doesn't bloody matter

[hollow gust]

Off flag?

[meager hollow]

yeah

[hollow void]

Sushi on light is stuck on either fucking up her barrage or using twin 410/triple 410

[meager hollow]

457mm UR gun from PR2 off flag, Musashi is running the UR gun from her banner which isnt even recommended to run

[hollow gust]

Then there are other issues , my nj and ulrich crushes Musashi in anti light

[whole crypt]

the only time I swapped guns to HE was for Temperance, even then I kept triple 410 on Musashi and it works against the jellyfish

[hollow gust]

That’s not HE :/

[meager hollow]

bro I said AP tho

[meager hollow]

...

[whole crypt]

he's not poking at you, he's poking at me saying those 3 are best for both HE and AP

[meager hollow]

ohh

[hollow gust]

I was talking to nntktt about how Musashi isn’t best for anti light

[hollow void]

Till they bring out a proper IJN gun for anti light, I'd run smth like FdG/NJ, VG, UvH

[meager hollow]

idk I always thought musashi was currently the highest dealing BB

[whole crypt]

if you're using Musashi/NJ/VG you really don't need to optimize for HE

[frank pulsar]

she is for med and heavy

[meager hollow]

ah but not for light

[hollow gust]

Doesn’t CN calc show fdg out damaging nj in anti light lol

[whole crypt]

you can still just twin 410 on Musashi and barrage spam, she hits hard enough even if it doesn't sync with VG/Helena

since UvH doesn't sync half the time either

[hollow void]

It does, but calcs are calcs, and difference not too great + factor of armour break

[hollow gust]

Smh soup what’s with the ehhsex

[hollow void]

I'd run FdG anyways since may as well run Emden there

[hollow gust]

Yeah not the worse for 2nd bb setup if that still used

[frank pulsar]

like deathkt said nj still has armour break

[whole crypt]

if you use Musashi/NJ/VG/Agir/Helena/Plymouth there is zero reason to ever bother making split HE/AP fleets

[hollow void]

It can be used, but triple CV exist

[meager hollow]

so once i get NJ UvH aint gonna have use anymore xD

[hollow gust]

Like he and I said , calcs still show higher
I never talked about actual performance

[whole crypt]

you get more mileage splitting antilight CV and IJN rainbows

[frank pulsar]

calcs are literally just to give a rough idea of their actual performance wdym

its paper

[hollow gust]

Dude just stops, I know what calcs are

[hollow void]

Both options not far apart so yes was needless there

[sweet delta]

[hollow void]

In any case entire convo is dumb since question was just anti medium/heavy

[hollow gust]

Btw for Reaserching pr5 fate sim , do I go for the PR face Reaserch first or DR

Cause I’m using rigging to cycle for ply prints and kinda feels wasted

[sweet delta]

yeah picking ply researches is wasteful

[whole crypt]

I pick Plymouth/Brest face when there's no rigging on the list

[hollow gust]

Should I be going for blue pr faces and cycling with rigging

After they have enough fate 5 then I work on Plymouth and Brest?

[sweet delta]

going for faces of any kind when you finished pr5 is wasteful

[whole crypt]

unless there's no rigging on the list

[hollow gust]

How should I be getting those prints?

[whole crypt]

you'll eventually save enough between grant and event prints honestly,

sometimes the lineup is so bad I pick cube for chips

[hollow gust]

Oh well, as for rigging , what’s the opinion on 2hr blues, they are doing pretty well for me

[paper lantern]

is the gold evasion aux noob bait or is it actually good? got excited bc it’s the first gold gear i’ve crafted (except duca gun, idk why that was sold in pieces)

[whole crypt]

I pick .5 > 4 > 2 > 1 if more than one rigging shows up

[hollow gust]

One that looks like washing machine? It’s meta

[hollow gust]

Perfect , That’s what I do too

[paper lantern]

oh yeah that’s a washing machine all right

[whole crypt]

washing machine is used all over the place on heavier hulls for durability

[paper lantern]

washing machine + toolbox also fun for leveling stuff

[wet prairie]

Sometimes on smaller ships to boost their evasion

[hollow void]

You guys roll rigging?

[wet prairie]

ahem poi kai, ahem jervis

[whole crypt]

er... no?

[hollow gust]

Wait roll? Wdym by that

[whole crypt]

DDs have enough base evasion for washingmachine to be worse than more HP on toolkit

[hollow gust]

Why would you give poi and jervis washing machine?

[soft raft]

That is pretty much the go to aux setup for CLs and CAs

[wet prairie]

Idk

[hollow void]

Research list

[whole crypt]

then don't say what you don't know

[elder parcel]

PR5 Gens that you got beforehand
And then 180 BPs from:
150 BPs from catchup when it comes (DR)
30 BPs from the bp plan event that they always put for FS

Basically no need to do any faces after finishing the season imo, unless there's literally nothing better like riggings

[hollow void]

Pain of 5 cube analysis or 4 often

[hollow gust]

I have only been doing rigging and grant donation with the occasional face mission to cycle

[whole crypt]

oh I only have 1 cube on the list, but the rest are shit like basic or sortie, or older seasons

[eager mulch]

Love that rigging only need plates

[hollow gust]

It got really tedious after maxing my Brest in October

I’m running out of grey plates

[whole crypt]

sometimes I end up taking 1hr cube simply because everything else on the lineup is worse

[hollow gust]

Remember the 2hr gear scrap missions, I sometimes get desperate to cycle

[whole crypt]

I'd do that if it shows up, but it doesn't

at least that's a short-ish research with a chance for rainbow gear

[eager mulch]

Rather pick up the coins research than that

[sweet delta]

do you ever wonder why you have so few rainbow gear?

[peak valve]

Me having C-RF 12 hours because of no coins:

[hollow gust]

Cause the only options were 2hr cube and 8hr free

[eager mulch]

Ouch

[sweet delta]

excuses

[whole crypt]

eh, 2hour blue/purple E isn't the worst thing you can pick to cycle if there's no rigging anaylsis

[hollow gust]

I know what I’m doing by now

[peak valve]

btw, my sushi keeps outdamaging my CVs by a wide margin in Lizzie fight.... I wonder if the comp I'm using enables it

[whole crypt]

it's the specific gear E's that are complete rubbish

[peak valve]

UR Gear E research when Manjuu

[hollow gust]

Musashi 460 is Musashi 460, no surprise

[frank pulsar]

sushi barrage being op as always

[whole crypt]

pls ask manjuu to change research rates I'm sick of seeing research lineup worse than blue/purple E

[dense raptor]

Is it worth spending coins directly on pr1 research? Beyond the two free ones you get daily

[whole crypt]

up to 10/15

[frank pulsar]

10 per day recommended including the 2 free prints

[paper lantern]

can you get commissions from opsi fights

[dense raptor]

Ty

[whole crypt]

there are still tiered discounts up to 15, 10 prints is 3k coins total and 15 is 7200 total, still cheaper than actually researching

[hollow gust]

Never hurts to max a monarch out and convert the catch-up to sweet protocores

[whole crypt]

(plus you don't want to focus PR1)

[hollow gust]

Only pr4/5 are worth focusing on

[peak valve]

Yes. regular opsi fights tend to activate random commissions

[eager mulch]

Coz tenrai

[hollow gust]

You can basically skip pr3

[dense raptor]

Is it still worth doing research on pr1 units in research academy, or better to just directly coin?

I’m only on pr1 so that’s all I can focus on

[hollow gust]

Nope do pr4

[frank pulsar]

just coin, pr focus shld always be 4 or 5 (usually 4 cuz tenrai gaming )

[hollow gust]

You can start the reaserch grind , you can do it without being able to get the shuos

[whole crypt]

commission spawn rates are kind of really random though, unless blue nodes in OS don't spawn commissions

[dense raptor]

Ty for help

[whole crypt]

I don't think any of my bluenode farms in obscured zones have ever turned up commissions

[peak valve]

I did once, tho if that is a bug I'm not sure. Most of the time it's eithe explorable or secured nodes

[tropic fog]

comms spawn as a result of map completions rather than battles i thought, so blue node farms dont work since youre not actually clearing zones

[whole crypt]

oh I've had commissions from regular zones, not a lot though

[whole crypt]

well even then the rates are pretty bad, end of month AP burns don't turn much up either

[tropic fog]

yeah, rates on opsi zone clears are generally low as well, I know it turns up some but its nowwhere near normal farming

[frank pulsar]

2 wyverns enough for w14 or nah?

[hollow void]

0 is enough

[whole crypt]

you can go with 0 even, but 2 is fine

[frank pulsar]

barracuda gaming it is then

[opal stream]

be a hipster and run 6

[whole crypt]

I'm thinking of crafting another to avoid swapping next time I want to equip one

but the hoarder in me says no

[jade ibex]

Whats the comfort cap?

[opal stream]

they will add better gear and I need to save for it

[whole crypt]

there's no hardcap for comfort

[opal stream]

but current cap including gem stuff is 500 something

[bold fulcrum]

It starts getting hard to make any progress around 430

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure no one has reached 500

[jade ibex]

So a 2nd floor is recommended

[bold fulcrum]

Unrelated

[tropic fog]

there is no hardcap, but it has significant diminishing returns in both exp bonus and in terms of how much more you can obtain due to how its calculated (it uses the best furniture you own of each category)

[whole crypt]

doesn't 2F add like some amount of comfort as well

[opal stream]

CN does
theres someone who buy everything

[whole crypt]

well if CN has any more furniture that adds comfort

[jade ibex]

So is it better to get pieces separately or the packs with gems or deco points

[whole crypt]

if you're short on coins and want to maximize comfort you have to buy separately, specifically ones that will raise your comfort
there's no bonus on full sets

the problem is because of how comfort is calculated at some point your comfort just stops going up if the new furniture doesn't have pieces that add more comfort than what you already have

[frank pulsar]

how much comfort do yall have im stuck at 200 sth

[bold fulcrum]

Like 450ish?

[opal stream]

implac event give everyone another +2 iirc

[tropic fog]

459

[whole crypt]

495

[jade ibex]

294

[opal stream]

483

[whole crypt]

(yes I buy gem furniture)

[tropic fog]

I think max possible without gem stuff is probably in the 470ish range?

[jade ibex]

And how much bonus exp do u get there?

[whole crypt]

483 should be achievable without gem furniture

83%

[opal stream]

no I did buy like 1 or 2

[sweet delta]

Fractional percents affect exp I believe

[opal stream]

but 480 is f2p achievable I think

[whole crypt]

for the record, between 400 and 500 comfort, your XP bonus goes from 80% to 83%

[jade ibex]

Im at 74% at almost 300

[opal stream]

it's not big
another factor that increase exp gain is your commander level

[jade ibex]

Ohh im at 85

[crimson glacier]

i think 80% was relatively easy to reach

[whole crypt]

commander level is arguably the bigger factor comparing newer players to older ones

400 comfort is easy if you've played at least 3 years or so

[crimson glacier]

and after that its just pain to get any more %

[whole crypt]

yeh

for that matter 300 comfort is 75%

it really just crawls from there on

[neon lantern]

ouef

[tropic fog]

yeah its
100 = +50%
200 = +66%
300 = +75%
400 = +80%
500 = +83%

[jade ibex]

So i just came back and at lv85 main 2 fleets are 115-110 what should i prio rn?

Im at 11-1 in campaign

[sweet delta]

Farm 12-1

[crimson glacier]

i wonder whats the breakpoint for it to show 83%

[jade ibex]

I have some bumps in clearing 10-4

Not sure 12-1 is doable at my current

[sweet delta]

Farm 11-1

[crimson glacier]

feels pretty weird to suggest farming a stage they havent even reached

[jade ibex]

Until?

[sweet delta]

Until you can farm 12-1 or your ships reached 120

[whole crypt]

if it's rounded down then 489

[crimson glacier]

i see

[whole crypt]

what % does that show?

[opal stream]

still 82

[whole crypt]

then yeh rounded down

483 is 82.8

[neon lantern]

what lvl are ships enhancement caps increased?

[sweet delta]

Every level, up to 100

[neon lantern]

dankwe

[glacial blade]

Can’t wait to make a full iron blood fleet

It could work right?

FDG, UVH, agust, Roon, Z23 and one iron blood DPS vangaurd

[novel mantle]

Can yuudachi’s AoA set fires?

[tiny scaffold]

is there a gear tier list for reference

[opal stream]

yes

[novel mantle]

Hmm.. then the french 138 would be viable on her right?

For more fire procs?

[opal stream]

normal fires don't stack
they reset timer when a new fire is applied
and fires have different levels, yuudachi AOA and gun fire level is 1
if you running something like NJ, her barrage burn will override it
there are fires that can stack but those are "special burn"

[novel mantle]

Ah ok

[sweet delta]

Yeah it'll work
...much poorer than a mixed fleet with that level of ships would

[vale spindle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/e/2PACX-1vRbKeR7WCSeg1FUx_jQ0e972FtA9tvgW8jHaiLQCPGtJEokVrSGBEZznr2qptelhxF-TXHh86yYQEUa/pubhtml#

[true cove]

should i buy any ship from the medal shop

or wait for the next refresh

[opal stream]

what ship hull does your shop have?

[fickle scarab]

I found my qem setup but one small question, yamato gun or 410 on sushi, both cases only 1 salvo is gonna hit after knights die

[quartz rampart]

Should still be 410 I think

[wet prairie]

Is the Russian CL gun (sr) good for helmet?

[humble vessel]

Ark royal meta or hiryuu meta for qe meta?

[frozen crest]

Hey....
Wtf is a shelling damage???

[jade ibex]

When they say farm any c5 they mean corrosion lv5 or a C zone?

In op siren*

[whole crypt]

normally referring to main gun damage from BB/BC

[wet prairie]

This a good build for eli M?

[whole crypt]

any corrosion 5 zone

[pale niche]

Is it okay to hoard skill books if there aren't any skills worth leveling?

[whole crypt]

probably not enough, the comps going Helena META use q152

also 2 +6 toolkits is kind of ehhhh

[whole crypt]

up to you, you kind of get more books than you can spend unless you expand classroom

[brave trail]

which tech pack gives the most value?

[wet prairie]

Q152?

Oh Plymouth gun, I don’t own that

[forest palm]

baby steps

realistically you just need a comp that functions, whether it scores high or not is irrelevant, you can build that up as you go along

[whole crypt]

baby steps wise if you want a reliable comp I'd say take one of the fleet carriers

you lose a lot more damage if Helena META doesn't kill the knights in time

[timid moon]

american boxes if newbie iirc

[whole crypt]

USS boxes have the largest selection of useful gear yeh

[forest palm]

USS → HMS → KMS ~ IJN

[timid moon]

is helmet better than helena?

[forest palm]

they are fundamentally different in purpose

[timid moon]

on bb fleet

what is the said purpose

[forest palm]

M Lena is meant to do DMG, Helena is meant to boost DMG

[timid moon]

oh-

[forest palm]

most, if not all, Meta aren't meant to be 1:1 copies of their original, they have different skill sets, and purposes from their original counter parts

[wet prairie]

What does armour break do again?

[forest palm]

a debuff that gets you more damage, is the simplest way to explain it

[vale spindle]

increases enemy damage taken by fp scaling damage

[wet prairie]

How much more?

[opal stream]

depend on the armor break

[wet prairie]

What about musashi’s “armour break”, I remember reading that it wasn’t armour break in your normal sense

[forest palm]

any AB debuff is designated in the skill

[opal stream]

usually 5~8%

[vale spindle]

It stacks with existing armor break thats why

[forest palm]

all in all AL works on an ID based system, so if 2 IDs are the same it won't stack, but if the buff is unique it will stack

this applies to ABs, Burns, Floods, and ARA

[sweet delta]

Musashi is just a universal debuff

[forest palm]

some other shit I'm forgetting

[vale spindle]

oh right

[wet prairie]

Of 5% right?

[sweet delta]

It applies to all damage, not just fp damage

[vale spindle]

10% if heavy

[wet prairie]

5% damage from everything

Musashi casually buffing herself by 5 or 10%

[opal stream]

never heard of powercreep?

[forest palm]

once you break it down you start seeing why Musashi is favored over FdG even if both can perform on a similar level

[sweet delta]

Don't need to break it down to see bigger numbers next to musashis name anyways

[autumn trail]

thats a big stretch

[wet prairie]

I thought sushi was closer to NJ

[autumn trail]

nobodys close to sushi because plymouth buffs only flagship

[forest palm]

well that's not personal damage then is it

[opal stream]

so are we calculating rdps now?

[forest palm]

that's just stacking rDPS onto one ship, which can be done for any ship

[autumn trail]

except why do it for lower damage ship if you can do it for higher damage ship

[wet prairie]

Does Helena stack with sushi AB and Plymouth debuff?

[opal stream]

yes

[forest palm]

Agir, Mu, Ply, Helena, NJ, Vanny all stack their debuffs/buffs

[wet prairie]

[craggy hemlock]

anyone have the list of research academy projects and what each give?

[wet prairie]

Would that be a good opsi BB fleet?

[opal stream]

this

[forest palm]

yes, it's currently the best BB fleet

[rapid moth]

Musashi/Vanguard/NJ + Agir/Helena/Plymouth is the goto opsi bb fleet yeh

[wet prairie]

Time to wait around for vanny rerun

[brave jolt]

Tenzan kai worth crafting?

[opal stream]

good luck waiting another year

[forest palm]

Dork exists for those that are Vanny-less

though it's pure torture sync'ing her

[opal stream]

autoloader gaming

[wet prairie]

Budget ryuusei so yeah

[wet prairie]

Is she really slow?

[forest palm]

Slow, and poor personal damage

so you're basically using her for rDPS

[wet prairie]

Would her buff make up for her lack of personal DPS? (If the fleet has sushi and NJ)

Or stick with FDG?

[autumn trail]

test it you should have a 120 dork anyway

[wet prairie]

I never farmed for dork….

[autumn trail]

use merit then

[wet prairie]

Merit?

[autumn trail]

pvp currency

[forest palm]

PvP shop

[opal stream]

pvp shop

[wet prairie]

Never farmed pvp either, not anymore

[opal stream]

just 15k
you can get in like half a pvp season

[autumn trail]

you do you

[wet prairie]

Should I farm war archives for her or stick with pvp?

[autumn trail]

isnt dork 20k

[opal stream]

20k ya

[wet prairie]

All SR in pvp are 20k

[opal stream]

but pvp is free
WA is not

[autumn trail]

pvp route saves you time and oil

[true cove]

is kirishima good

[autumn trail]

no

[novel kayak]

What PR3 stuff should I get? Accidentally bought PR3 bps from the store and idk what to use them for

[forest palm]

Triple 406/50 if you don't have 3

[novel kayak]

aight thanks bossman

[wet prairie]

Does NJ want champagne or 457?

[forest palm]

406/50 is preferred

[true cove]

should i get hood from the shop or wait for next refresh

[wet prairie]

So champagne

[wet prairie]

Hood is pretty good early game so I don’t see why not

[true cove]

cool

[static dome]

champy gun, in case that you wanna sync with

[lapis tinsel]

For QEM u think this is enough for helmet https://i.imgur.com/XHUHAKN.png

Or are +13s necessary?

[opal stream]

rudder

[lapis tinsel]

Rudderbad?

[opal stream]

you can go full offense as long as you have a tank

[lapis tinsel]

hmm

[forest palm]

Rudder is USS, so yes

[whole crypt]

use sword

[lapis tinsel]

Oh is it the timing so you don't want the rudder

[wispy cosmos]

why?

[lapis tinsel]

Also isn't bowgun FP so you wanna use it?

[true cove]

should i buy unicorn to replace yorktown

[whole crypt]

you're not only counting on gun damage, the slash counts too

[wet prairie]

Is nano rerun is to be believed NJ is forecast to be rerun next month correct?

[whole crypt]

this is one of those few cases the slash damage actually a use

[wet prairie]

Since it’s roughly a 23 months before rerun period

[lapis tinsel]

Slash seems reliable but I can try it out

[whole crypt]

slash damage applies full on knights too

and pierces

[wet prairie]

You should already have unicorn, but yes get her, and yorktown (not YT2) isn’t great

[true cove]

alright

[lapis tinsel]

That ryza aux gives FP so it should be fine right https://i.imgur.com/oGy0Pkj.png

[whole crypt]

the rec is tractor, adds EVA as well

[opal stream]

where truck?

[lapis tinsel]

I'm a new player I wasn't here for gridman

[wispy cosmos]

youre saying that the slash contributes more damage than the fp

[neon lantern]

GRIDMAN

[whole crypt]

what does bubble add again besides FP

[lapis tinsel]

acc so not much

[wet prairie]

Nvm am dumb

Can’t be equipped

No regular 127?

Or does German DD gun perform better then the mid gun and uss buff?

[whole crypt]

128 works, or if you have any of the good DD guns at +13
knights are medium armour

[lapis tinsel]

Don't you not want USS for timing or am I mistaken

[true cove]

can i like sacrifice a ship to upgrade another or do i just have to do it the hard way

[wispy cosmos]

what exactly do you think the hard way is

[whole crypt]

not sure what you mean by sacrifice
LB needs dupes or bulins
enhancement is just using grey fodder

[high dew]

how significant is the damage increase between dev 25 and dev 30 agir
the mgm efficiency and siren killer looks substantial

[wet prairie]

It’s better to use dupes then bulins

[whole crypt]

you're also forgetting fleet tech

[wet prairie]

Agir also gains other side stats (torp, FP, RLD)

[high dew]

she won’t benefit from my amount of fleet tech

[whole crypt]

if you have Agir you have some amount

[true cove]

finding books

or playing the game

[whole crypt]

what books
skill books are only for skills
XP packs are for XP which get from dorm or grinding
neither of these will improve by feeding them ships

[true cove]

xp books

i forgor the name

[noble tulip]

How do I upgrade a rare module to epic ?

[wet prairie]

You can’t? Unless it’s gearlab

[opal stream]

upgrade rare to +10
then you can upgrade it to purple

[wet prairie]

But that’s a select few and you need to do opsi

[whole crypt]

like I said, XP you only gain from the dorm or actually using the ships
feeding them ships does not transfer any XP

[noble tulip]

Thanks

[plain saffron]

Module. Not equip

[true cove]

ok

[wet prairie]

Oh augments?

[plain saffron]

Augment modules yes

[wet prairie]

Huh

The more you know

[forest palm]

equipment with a different name

[late osprey]

Ark Royal or Formidable?

[forest palm]

Ark

[tame crypt]

what should i run on shinano for 14-2 boss?

[wet prairie]

Tigercat /tenrai/ryuusei with catapults if it’s boss

Or duel ryuusei with tenrai

[turbid nebula]

What is this for?

[rapid moth]

mobbing on-fire barrage bb

Or it's for Agir in case you don't have the gun from Kronstaht event.

I'm too lazy to look up which of the two variants it is

[wet prairie]

Rapid fire BB gun VS light

[hidden basin]

Any info how to calculate for level up from level commander from 90 to 95 auto clear map 12-4 take for a N Times?

[twilit blade]

Should I use this ship well?

And i how level up in main level

Without war

I need answer...

[plain saffron]

fighting is main way to get EXP

[rocky summit]

Noshiro strong ship

Especially for beginner

[twilit blade]

Tahkent q or this ship?

[rocky summit]

Noshiro

You're better off with your starter ship as dd instead of tash

[hollow spire]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience#Commander_XP

[rocky summit]

The one you get for free

[twilit blade]

Thx, would you answer my second question

[twilit blade]

This

[rocky summit]

Only way is thru battles

For commander lvl

[twilit blade]

But i collect all Stars Up to 5-4

[jade ibex]

if i want max slash range it has to be 3 of the same type right?

[twilit blade]

And they want 30 level...

[rocky summit]

For commission?

Or for what?

[twilit blade]

No for 6-1

[rocky summit]

Yeah you're gonna have to grind till you get the lvl you need

Only way repeat the highest stage you can do till then

[twilit blade]

Oh sry its 40 level

[rocky summit]

Yeah only way to raise commander lvl is to grind stages

[jade ibex]

dang slash area feels so bad compared to spread

[twilit blade]

I got all the stars but I have to play again, so if I understand correctly,

[rocky summit]

Yes

Play 3-4 on repeat

[twilit blade]

Giving only 59 Xp will take too long...

[jade ibex]

i get around the same exp on 11-1 so

[rocky summit]

3-4 gives you decent carrier in Akagi and gives you repair tool box which you will need a lot of

So it worth to do if you don't have any better to do

[undone siren]

Commander XP is not tied to stage, but the quantity of ships in your fleet and your commander level in relation to the enemy's

And no, don't repeat 3-4. By the map, do 5-4 and move on as soon as you can to 6-#

[twilit blade]

Will it give me more if I play the last stage

[undone siren]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience

[twilit blade]

I understood

[steel schooner]

which one would give me the ship?

[jade ibex]

develop

[steel schooner]

then what's the purpose of other one?

[jade ibex]

catchup pr4 or 5 tho

more prints, thats why u want it on pr4 pr5

[steel schooner]

oh okay

[rocky summit]

The other one gives you her blueprints for her so you can raise her up after you unlock her

Only gives you 300 tho

[steel schooner]

but I can still raise them through sorties?

or dorms

[rocky summit]

Yes you lvl her up normally but you can only raise her stars with the blue prints

And lvl is locked behind rarity

Star I mean

[cursive wyvern]

is aquila good for this months arbiter solely because of 4x torp bombers

i dont have many tb carriers

[undone siren]

Completing the tasks provides the ship. Collecting blueprints allows enhancement. Blueprints are obtained from research. Do not select PR1/2/3 catch-up

[twilit blade]

Yukikaze or noshiro?

[quartz rampart]

Sure. Used her before Haku. If you manual you can use her preload and sync with a slower, or when boss stops

[undone siren]

@steel schooner
Save that catch-up to convert into Protocore. You can raise PR1/2/3 and DR2 ships using coins

[twilit blade]

Who write no, lol this not answer

[quartz rampart]

Noshi was the answer

[twilit blade]

Oh, thx

Wait u writed no shi 🤦‍♂️

Now I saw it

[quartz rampart]

That's her nickname, she's good pretty much everywhere and nearly as tanky as long as you got her skills up

[noble tulip]

at what dev level can u start playing agir ?

[undone siren]

15 for most content
25 for hardest content

[rough seal]

is there a war archives event worth farming on?

[whole crypt]

not in particular

[indigo beacon]

hello is it worth to use resources here? is there a noticeable difference? it's the first time i see this rainbow research

[whole crypt]

divergent chessboard is okay if you need the KMS ships

[whole crypt]

very high yield, and you can afford it so I'd say go for it

unless you're already done with Hakuryuu

[indigo beacon]

i have her on development lvl 15, so i'll go for it then

thanks

[undone siren]

You have the cubes, so sure.

[undone cloud]

Does Vanguard have to shoot first for debuff?

[jaunty vault]

that'd be ideal, yes

well technically, she doesn't need to shoot first but she needs to finish loading for the debuff to be active

but it's pot-ay-to, pot-ah-to kinda logic

[plain saffron]

what

[twilit blade]

This good ship or not?

[crimson glacier]

decent

but certainly nothing special

[twilit blade]

Which one should I replace it with

[tiny scaffold]

what is prototype core for and do I use it to buy bulins in the shop

[crimson glacier]

probably wouldnt replace anyone

[twilit blade]

Oh

[jade ibex]

to get max slash range do i need all 3 of the same type or mixed works too?

[wet granite]

Is there a recommended meta ship for the QEM fight?

[elfin hollow]

Souryuu

[stoic badge]

Are any of the non-gacha ARA ships good? I don't have kazagumo.

[undone siren]

Hammann II is okay.

Ok?

[elfin hollow]

Hamm2 is not currently obtainable tho

[undone siren]

Obviously, but they could still have her.
I took non-gatcha to merely mean non-perma pool, as I can't really think of any map drop ARAs

[noble tulip]

Between 1 hour Q projects and 2 hours ones, which one is usually better

[stoic badge]

I do have her. Would she be better than, uhh, Yuugure for example? The guild shop has several ARA ships

[undone siren]

1h generally, for faster cycling

[noble tulip]

Yeah thought so, thanks

[wary patrol]

im new! could someone help me? if i send a pic of my dock would anyone be able to tell me if my ships are good

[frank pulsar]

make thread if yr gna post dock

[wary patrol]

oh sorry okay

[frank pulsar]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home and this is a decent tierlist of ships

[wary patrol]

fleet support maybe???

[stoic badge]

Thanks. Are ARA ships better than just using helena? I am not using her anywhere else.

[crimson glacier]

aras are shit compared to helena

especially if you use enty

[stoic badge]

Yeah, I am using the american comp. So the best would be to use an ARA with helena? I am using sirius right now.

[crimson glacier]

not sure which one is better

for the rest ara should be better but sirius is better for enty

[stoic badge]

I assume because enty already increases damage by 100%? So the ara buff is not that big?

[crimson glacier]

Yep

[stoic badge]

Ok, thanks

[undone siren]

Helena > Sirius > all ARA
In terms of OpSi, you'd usually have Helena with your BBs though

[crimson glacier]

Thats not really true

Ara is better than sirius if you don't have massive dmg% buffs

[raven marsh]

what's the best vanguard for york2 enty fleet again? ara sirius tank?

[frank pulsar]

use ancho or ham 2 for the uss buff

[crimson glacier]

The best always includes helena

[raven marsh]

stephen potter is better right?

[frank pulsar]

ye

[crimson glacier]

doesnt really matter at all

[agile rapids]

can scylla carry 13

[raven marsh]

or is bristol better

[strong jewel]

This is a good cat, right ?

[crimson glacier]

its like ok ish i guess

i wouldnt use it

[lunar arrow]

Is z2 drops in archive event for us?

[strong jewel]

can you help me with the cats that i have ?

[crimson glacier]

eh

you just want cats that buff backline ships, and preferably start with atleast one rare talent

and for subs you want steel and edelweiss, with as much reload as possible

[strong jewel]

it would be a lot easier if we could vc if you are okay with it

[agile rapids]

why would you need a vc

[novel solar]

Torva’s voice reveal?

[south pond]

Is there anyway to get augment module core other than the daily one?

[strong jewel]

its easier for me

[wet granite]

How important is getting Musashi to lineup with vanguards buff? Because I oathed Vanguard the only way I can get them to sync is giving Musashi and auto-loader which seems iffy.

[frank pulsar]

events and the weekly augment raid

[frank pulsar]

very important so u might wanna give vanny a slower gun to sync

also if yr sushi is using the triple 460 use a triple 410 instead

[south pond]

Ah okie 👌 idk if i'm a mid or end game player but i have no idea how to even set up a perfect fleet i just put my powerful girls instead ehe🥲

[agile rapids]

afaik it's hard to even sync normal vanny to musashi without oathing musashi or putting an autoloader on her, hf doing that with oathed vanny

[tacit helm]

Which is better to spend PR5 general mats on, MP or Harbin?

[wet granite]

Yeah. Been using the chamagne gun + izumo fun respectively and it's nowhere close.

[frank pulsar]

try hsfcr on sushi...?

id rather not use an autoloader if possible tbh

[wet granite]

That is with HSFCR. I can get them to sync, but the only way to do it consistently is the autoloader unfortunately. This is with stripping off all of my reload cats/tech as well.

[agile rapids]

18.42, 38.30, 58.18, 78.06 musashi
17.17, 35.60, 54.02, 72.44 vanguard
musashi just barely desyncs out of 4th load

[frank pulsar]

keep the rld tech and cats that wont affect yr sync

[agile rapids]

both oathed, max rld tech
musashi on izumo, vanguard on champy

[frank pulsar]

his sushi isnt oathed

[neon lantern]

is the divergent chessboard war achive best to farm? its got iron blood ships and quad magnetic

[novel solar]

Just use autoloader musashi nothing wrong with that

[agile rapids]

it's a dmg loss not worth going for, just cope the desync out of vanny's buff

[frank pulsar]

only time i see autoloader actually being worth is when using 460

[agile rapids]

^

[novel solar]

Dmg loss but it still brings in meta kills

[wet granite]

I removed the tech/cats because it was a pain to sync with Helena with them on top of everything else.

[agile rapids]

so does getting more dmg from having a shell

[frank pulsar]

dont get rid of the rld entirely keep enough so that theyre slower than helena by a lil bit

[novel solar]

That’s guaranteed, and here you just cope

[agile rapids]

literally what language is this

[pulsar solar]

im getting tired of thinking, who is the best to fill this

[eager mulch]

avp

[agile rapids]

brunhilde probably

[lapis tinsel]

Brunhilde.

[frank pulsar]

is double +11 autoloader worth to make sushi sync with helena

or shld i stick to double +10

[lapis tinsel]

What kind of cope are you on.

[frank pulsar]

460 sync cope

[lapis tinsel]

Don't bother

[frank pulsar]

i want to see my sushi use her historically accurate gun on qem

[lapis tinsel]

I hear crying is a good solution

[frank pulsar]

i already did that yesterday

[pulsar solar]

brunhilde doesnt satisfy me, not even better than repulsem

[lapis tinsel]

Your brunhilde has skill issue cos she's the best option

[pulsar solar]

how to fix the issue

[lapis tinsel]

[warm rose]

Portland Lv.120 or this: | For OpSi

[lapis tinsel]

Agir in a heartbeat. Even with no skill levels she's better than portland whose skills basically don't exist.

[undone siren]

Get her levels up. Makes a huge difference

[lapis tinsel]

Also please greatsword her https://i.imgur.com/Pa5HSyZ.png

[soft raft]

why did you double toolbox a CB 💀

[lapis tinsel]

They prolly don't have rudder new player things

[frank pulsar]

no rudder gaming

[pulsar solar]

what wrong here?

[agile rapids]

bad gun

[lapis tinsel]

I already see a big issue https://i.imgur.com/Xd1cSwx.png

[frank pulsar]

her main gun

[agile rapids]

that main gun is really shit

[frank pulsar]

wheres her 406 mk6

[soft raft]

well for one you wasted plates to +13 Monarch gun when 406 mk6 would've sufficed just fine

[lapis tinsel]

Also does double shell give you 4th shelling on brun

[frank pulsar]

and wheres her aug

[true cove]

is prinz eugen good

[soft raft]

no

[warm rose]

Which item is exactly the "rudder" I tried the wiki, but couldn't get a result

[true cove]

alrighty

[dusk maple]

in this case they already have a +13 monarch gun, mk6 would be a downgrade

[pulsar solar]

she ready to go?

[soft raft]

I mean since you already got a +13 Monarch gun just use that and know never to raise another copy again
other than that that should be good

[noble tulip]

What's Choukai droprate ? Farmed for FdG/Ancho/Agir/AvP and still haven't gotten her yet

[soft raft]

/droprate

[elfin hollow]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[undone siren]

Unknown

[pulsar solar]

mmm so keep the monarch gun?

[south pond]

Is she gud?

[soft raft]

Pretty good yeah
Solid DD and also has good AA

[undone siren]

What's with that different UI

[frank pulsar]

high performance steering sth

[warm rose]

Oooooh, you mean the wash machine

I exhausted my copies on other shipfus, gonna give her one as soon as

[brittle hornet]

hey i am currently grinding for a pr ship only the character with who i grind is already maxed out lvl125 and 3mil exp capped, does she still contributes to the exp gain for that ship?

[frank pulsar]

as long the ship fits the faction it doesnt matter what level or whether theyre capped or not

[brittle hornet]

ah oke thank you very much

[pulsar solar]

should i use hsfcr on brunhilde?

[neon lantern]

these always get converted to protocores right?

[soft raft]

only if your other BBs are using it and Helena (If she's in the fleet) has SG radar for syncing purposes

[neon lantern]

followup what should i be getting first from the protocore

[soft raft]

/protocore

[elfin hollow]

https://i.imgur.com/z6ZqYDg.jpg

[south pond]

Is it a solid team?

[soft raft]

no not really

also I really hope you havent retrofitted Warspite yet

[frank pulsar]

for starters if that warspite isnt retrofitted yet u shld stop raising her

and stop using eugen and le malin

[warm rose]

These three, setup as such; Is that sufficient for me to Auto Siren Lv6 and Strongholds:

[crimson glacier]

nothing wrong with eugen

[agile rapids]

eugen sucks

[frank pulsar]

ass

[crimson glacier]

this is why parrots are annoying

[south pond]

I saw my eugen stats and she has 6.5k hp

[crimson glacier]

and thats what makes eugen a good tank

[soft raft]

yeah she's tanky but she deals literally no damage

[frank pulsar]

she literally does nothing besides being a dmg sponge

[crimson glacier]

coz portland dps is incredible?

[plucky sky]

if uwant to auto, u need 1 healer

[south pond]

What if i gave her a legendary stuff ehehhehe

[crimson glacier]

the whole reason why eugen is bad is that she costs gold bulins

but since she is already mlb there is no problem

[south pond]

Btw is warspite bad?

[soft raft]

still doesnt help her damage compared to if you gave the same gun to another CA

[crimson glacier]

almost every CA has bad dmg

[frank pulsar]

for her cost yes but if shes already retrofitted just use her

[soft raft]

her retrofit is barely worth it considering the high investment cost for pratically no realisticlly long term retrun

[crimson glacier]

there are much bigger problems there like imp being 0lb

[south pond]

Shes halfway retrofitted 😅

[frank pulsar]

and washington

[neon lantern]

oh my god why did i completely retro warspite

[crimson glacier]

not just any washy, non flag washy

[frank pulsar]

too late but hey at least u have an ok sheller now

[lapis raft]

i think a lot of people who got the warspite retro item a few years ago also fully retro'd her

[south pond]

Maybe i should put yamashiro meta again

[crimson glacier]

few years ago was totally different time

[frank pulsar]

thats debatably worse

use unicorn or aquila instead

[lapis raft]

so like i have this implacable up and running rn
do i still get AvP
i stacked enough bps for her D30

[south pond]

Shes already 105 lvl and have full purp enchant 8 stuff

[soft raft]

yeah that way you can have 2 CV bossing fleets with time freezes

[lapis raft]

where do i need 2 CVs bossing fleets

[frank pulsar]

opsi

[crimson glacier]

nowhere but you can use 2 in opsi

[soft raft]

Operation Siren
Anti light and Anti Medium/heavy

[frank pulsar]

doesnt change the fact that its a useless ship

[south pond]

Btw is retrofitted Laffey gud? Shes has yellow stuff

[crimson glacier]

shes ok

[raven marsh]

does having heavy armour make ship more tanky in general

[crimson glacier]

but you are using her on the main tank spot where eugen should be

[south pond]

Wait huh i never knew that, I never had a clue on how i build my fleet i just place them

[frank pulsar]

ye

[lapis raft]

is there even any other good bossing CVs?
aside from shits like enty, shina, haku, i can't think of any other ones

add 2 slowers there and i still need 1 more ship for the 2nd CV fleet

[elfin hollow]

York2

[lapis raft]

i missed Y2

i blew all my cubes and didnt get her

[tight hull]

what is best in slot main gun for agir? just finished developing her earlier

[lapis raft]

agir gun i think?
that prototype 305mm rnehwjbsbehe something

[elfin hollow]

Her gun

[raven marsh]

depends on which armour u fighting

[soft raft]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca?ship=ägir

[lapis raft]

i have an anti-heavy which is imp shinano enty rn (enty will be replaced by haku when i haveher at D30
i need an anti light

[raven marsh]

enty yk2 avp

[soft raft]

Well technically Kron gun is better but that's limited and Kron herself generally has higher priority for it because that is most likely the only NP gear someone might have

[lapis raft]

i did say that i missed yk2, yeah?

[raven marsh]

hornet ii?

[lapis raft]

i have her

[raven marsh]

she gud

[lapis raft]

hm

[pulsar solar]

if i dont need speed debuff what would be better than brunhilde, she even shots slower than fdg

[crimson glacier]

fdg is one of the fastest BB sooo

[pulsar solar]

yes so it is a waste to pair withher and uvh , also rip 150 chip for lv125 brun

[crimson glacier]

why did you level her

[pulsar solar]

idk her damage suck before and still suck now

tought it would be better

[lapis raft]

huh?

how tf

[frank pulsar]

she has rld buff from her skill iirc

[crimson glacier]

whats that supposed to mean

[lapis raft]

goddamn i was gonna say shits about how she always fire like 3s after my monarch and warspite in my BB opsi fleet
but then i realized the latter two ships are using twin 410 and not triple 406 so that was a shit comparison

[crimson glacier]

your warspite is using twin 410?

[lapis raft]

uh yep

[crimson glacier]

why

[lapis raft]

idk

[crimson glacier]

i recommend switching to shelling gun

[frank pulsar]

warkai barrage is timed not on fire using shelling gun would be better

[lapis raft]

alrighty

[frank pulsar]

and monarch shouldnt be using 410 either if its opsi bossing

[jaunty vault]

warkai
barrage

[lapis raft]

me when i have to use HE guns for opsi bossing

[frank pulsar]

use 406 mk6 then

[lapis raft]

sure

[frank pulsar]

its purple theres no way u dont have one

[lapis raft]

wouldnt HE guns be a lil shit against med armor

[frank pulsar]

406 /50 mle exists for med and heavy

[lapis raft]

[undone siren]

Anchorage does not have a skin yet, right?

[lapis raft]

nop

[undone siren]

Thanks#

[hidden bobcat]

Oh no... I finished Ägir's 150/150 Catch-up. How am I supposed to get more prints for her now? Just pray she pops up in Research?

[undone siren]

Yes, of course.

[hidden bobcat]

I thought someone said that I could spend cubes for them.

[undone siren]

Some researches use cubes.

[plain saffron]

but you'll do fine with coins researches

[frank pulsar]

they arent guaranteed to drop agir prints tho

[undone siren]

/research

[elfin hollow]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[hidden bobcat]

Riiight but I can't flat out exchange cubes the way it lets you exchange coins for the PR1 prints?

[jaunty vault]

no

[plain saffron]

no

[undone siren]

No.

[plain saffron]

doing research is the main way to get blueprints

[crimson glacier]

cubes arent really worth using for research unless you have a ton of them

[lapis raft]

is that the champy gun

well shit that'd require me to swap to research focus 3

[undone siren]

No, use Protocre.

[lapis raft]

i would use it if they exist for me

i blew all of mine on tenrai bps

[undone siren]

Then get BP's gradually by doing research as normal

[frank pulsar]

the bigger question is how did u manage to get a d30 fdg before a champy gun

[lapis raft]

dont you mean avp?

[frank pulsar]

u said yr using fdg earlier right?

[plain saffron]

by not doing season 3 research

[lapis raft]

i coined

[stiff dove]

isn't that the usual? I only got my first champy gun after like, 9 months playing lol

[plain saffron]

it's kinda normal tbh

[lapis raft]

fdg being coinable is such a fricking blessing

[frank pulsar]

i got mine after 2-3 weeks of playing

[plain saffron]

because people don't do pr3 research. people use protocore to buy iy. and not everyone minmax protocore

[frank pulsar]

i used protocore

[stiff dove]

but I like using CVs more, so I guess that made me forget about champy guns kekw

[lapis raft]

(like me, i blew the research exp cards on a pr1 ship)

[novel solar]

And they blew protocore on tenrai, not hard to understand

[frank pulsar]

i did that too and still had protocore

[lapis raft]

did i mention that i blew protocores on tenrai

[plain saffron]

not everyone is tryharding minmax

[lapis raft]

i got one of 'em a while ago

[frank pulsar]

u shldve gotten one before tenrai

[lapis raft]

and i'm TRYING to get that rainbow 457mm

[frank pulsar]

that ones low priority

[lapis raft]

goddamn

[frank pulsar]

u can do just fine without it

[novel solar]

It’s in gear lab as well

[lapis raft]

im trying to craft it in gear lab

[plain saffron]

457mm is novelty

[lapis raft]

issue is the gold gun before it eats a shit ton of electronics

[frank pulsar]

the only thing i seem to be using it for is to make my dork move faster than a snail

wyvern electronic grind is worse gl

[undone siren]

457mm pain is the T3 Reports

[lapis raft]

speaking of wyvern
i lack a small amount of electronics for it

[plain saffron]

do arbiter and use the selector

[lapis raft]

man why the fuck them good gears always eat electronics

[lapis raft]

there are materials selector?

[undone siren]

Yes

[lapis raft]

i killed normal arbiter a while ago
must've overlooked that

[rapid moth]

You're looking for this in your depot

[crimson glacier]

oh i didnt know boxes like that existed

[pseudo phoenix]

Other than needing at least one META ship for the Showdown, I've seen a lot are using Kazagumo for that fleet, is it currently unobtainable for now til the future?

[stiff dove]

it's on light build, but good luck getting her there

especially when NJ rerun is close by

you're better off using another ARA character than going after her on light build with no rate up

[lapis raft]

nah shit i dont find it

[pseudo phoenix]

so an alternative?

[lapis raft]

i probably used it already

[stiff dove]

Hamman II, Stephen Potter, Bellona...

[lapis raft]

ariake

[stiff dove]

Anyone with an Air Raid Assistance skill

[pulsar solar]

ariake or yuugure if shinano + haku

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/460645783021289472/1086977224755912784 bro who is the best to fill this

[novel solar]

People answered

[pulsar solar]

not brun

[soft raft]

didnt I already tell you to just use Monarch gun
Especially since you already +13'd it anyways

[pulsar solar]

yes i do

[novel solar]

[jaunty vault]

warspite works

[pulsar solar]

would ws better than repulsem

[novel solar]

If sr ships’ dmg doesn’t satisfy you then wait for another ur bb

[soft raft]

no lmao

[novel solar]

Or do another cv fleet

[pulsar solar]

so i should back to fdg uvh york2?

[jaunty vault]

sure

[pulsar solar]

ah

[neon lantern]

is this really important for helena

seems kinda eh to me

[jaunty vault]

yk2 solo is better for light than warspite and probably repM

[stiff dove]

you're going to use her a lot, so might as well get it

but it isn't super important to have

[jaunty vault]

boosts her survivability so might as well get it

just ignore it if u feel like it's a waste, it's your game

[neon lantern]

muh gold retrofit mats

[pulsar solar]

yes she is but i tought theres a better bb cuz it seems weird to see solo cv

[novel solar]

[jaunty vault]

that's racism against CVs

[pulsar solar]

in the end it works

im not a racist but...

[soft raft]

well besides Brunhilde and RepM, there's Howe but she's not avaliable rn

[dusk maple]

is your warspite lvl 125?

[pulsar solar]

isnt howe is only good on ap fleet cuz monarch?

[novel solar]

Dork

[pulsar solar]

no 120

[dusk maple]

Howe is good solo, against any armour

[pulsar solar]

i want fdg flag

[soft raft]

and her self buff condition is if sortied with either a KGV class, Monarch, or 3 other HMS ships in the fleet, not just Monarch herself

[soft raft]

Dork doesnt compete with FdG for flag position

[pulsar solar]

is it work on my fleet

but isnt dork would be half waste for uvh

[dusk maple]

just use fdg/uvh/brun, give them all your best triple barrel guns and hpfcr

[pulsar solar]

brun slow wouldnt works

eh

[frank pulsar]

shes not a snail like dork wdym

[pulsar solar]

do slow relevant

[jade ibex]

is there a good node for farming Avi ships for enhance?

[frank pulsar]

slow not as relevant for bb

[pulsar solar]

so yes back to fdg uvh 2

[soft raft]

Just use FdG/UvH/Brun it's not that hard

[frank pulsar]

york 2 is better off with enty and avp/impla

[neon lantern]

aliens vs predator?

[frank pulsar]

do u have sth against brun theres literally nth wrong with her

[soft raft]

go to #off-topic

[neon lantern]

well he said avp

[pulsar solar]

what even brun doing other than slow

i using impla on other fleet

[dusk maple]

accuracy support and decent dmg

[pulsar solar]

is that really better than just slap 2

[frank pulsar]

.