Octagonal Bolt Bundle-based LDT Build

[late hinge]

Application of Decelerating Shot and Octagonal Bolt Bundle makes teleportation takes only 17 frames, or 0.28 sec. (verified by playing frame by frame)
Plus, the approximation is 77 pixels. (35917px in total)
Avoiding all the damage demands Explosion Immunity and Fire Immunity.
This build must be used on the wand of multitudes, for it has a constant speed modifier.
Plasma Beam will interact with the ground, so a-quarter-of-screen space is required.
Since the lifetime enforced by projectile speed, the further application can be challenging.

[swift bison]

Octagonal Bolt Bundle performs well in reducing the time for Tentacle and Fly Up's LDT.
This saves many slots.

[spice delta]

i was wondering exactly that, but didnt get around to test it yet. do you know how many frames that is in total?

here is some Bolt-Bundle LDT that i did before (downwards, to mirror world). One could also use a teleport bolt wisp, but those fall much more slowly

[swift bison]

It seems that the default air_friction=7 of LASER_EMITTER_FOUR is quite suitable here, and there's no need to add extra air_friction.

[swift bison]

No, I don’t know the exact number of frames, and I don’t know how to accurately measure it.

I’m guessing the tentacle might last around 2 frames?just guess.

[spice delta]

if i remember correctly, my tests suggested that frame 3 of tentacl'es existance is the first one we can use. On earlier frames it is still near the player. so it might be that

it sure is fast, holy!

flashing lights warning!

it might be 1 frame slower maybe. tentacle arrives at the target on its 3rd frame of existence, and dies on frame 4

so technically lifetime could be a frame faster. but this is incredibly simple and basically the same

[swift bison]

By the way, I just remembered that I tested a -58f Tentacle LDT before. It's usable within a death trigger, but if cast on its own, it's not. It has to be -57f to work. Do you know why that is?

{{Wand2
| wandCard     = Yes
| wandPic      = Wand 0454.png
| spellsCast   = 34
| castDelay    = 1.78
| rechargeTime = 0.25
| manaMax      = 5000.00
| manaCharge   = 5000.00
| capacity     = 50
| spread       = 0
| speed        = 1.00
| spells       = LUMINOUS_DRILL,,
                 NOLLA,LINE_ARC,SUPER_TELEPORT_CAST,BURST_3,TENTACLE_TIMER,BURST_2,BLOODLUST,,
                 SWAPPER_PROJECTILE,FISH,EXPLOSIVE_PROJECTILE,,
                 ACCELERATING_SHOT,DIVIDE_3,DIVIDE_3,DIVIDE_3,,,
                 DIVIDE_2,,,
                 DIVIDE_2,,,
                 FLY_UPWARDS,,,,
                 ZERO_DAMAGE,LIFETIME,LIFETIME,DIVIDE_3,PINGPONG_PATH,DIVIDE_10,ADD_TRIGGER,DIVIDE_4,ADD_TRIGGER,LIFETIME_DOWN,,,,
                 BLOOD_MAGIC,,,
                 DIVIDE_2,,
                 RESET
}}

[spice delta]

are you saying:
including warp cast it works at -58 frames, but without warp cast it does not work?
Or that tentacle needs to be an exp trigger, not a timer?

[swift bison]

including warp cast it works at -58 frames, but without warp cast it does not work

[spice delta]

very interesting, i dont know why that would be the case.

[swift bison]

I accidentally added an extra HORIZONTAL_ARC. Also, here’s the Wikiwand.

{{Wand2
| wandCard     = Yes
| wandPic      = Wand 0821.png
| castDelay    = 0.60
| rechargeTime = 0.10
| manaMax      = 1700.00
| manaCharge   = 560.00
| capacity     = 22
| spread       = -30
| speed        = 1.00
| spells       = NOLLA,HORIZONTAL_ARC,DELAYED_SPELL,ADD_DEATH_TRIGGER,LASER_EMITTER_FOUR,BURST_2,DAMAGE,SWAPPER_PROJECTILE,FISH,ROCKET_OCTAGON,DIVIDE_10,DIVIDE_4,DIVIDE_4,DIVIDE_2,ADD_TRIGGER,IF_HP,PHASING_ARC,PHASING_ARC,LIGHT_SHOT,SPEED,IF_END,RESET
}}

[spice delta]

Delayed Spellcast just to neutralize wand speed multiplier?

or is there another reason?

[swift bison]

just neutralize wand speed multiplier and gives 3 draw

[swift bison]

I just realized this is a PHASING_ARC jumping 2 times, so we should be able to save one PHASING_ARC.
I haven't figured out how to create a wand build that both neutralizes the wand speed multiplier and looks elegant. This one works, but it might not appear very elegant in the wand dbg.

{{Wand2
| wandCard     = Yes
| wandPic      = Wand 0821.png
| castDelay    = 0.60
| rechargeTime = 0.10
| manaMax      = 1700.00
| manaCharge   = 560.00
| capacity     = 23
| spread       = -30
| speed        = 1.00
| spells       = IF_HALF,NOLLA,HORIZONTAL_ARC,DELAYED_SPELL,BURST_4,ADD_DEATH_TRIGGER,LASER_EMITTER_FOUR,BURST_2,DAMAGE,SWAPPER_PROJECTILE,FISH,ROCKET_OCTAGON,IF_END,DIVIDE_10,DIVIDE_4,DIVIDE_4,DIVIDE_2,ADD_TRIGGER,IF_HP,PHASING_ARC,LIGHT_SHOT,SPEED,RESET
}}

[spice delta]

I think removing wand speed is not that necessary. I would personally just use multitudes

[late hinge]

Another peculiar build uses Downwards Bolt Bundle.

It only works when you're trapped in gruond

The trigger condition for Downwards Bolt Bundle is vel_y > 10, associated with the gravity

[late hinge]

even alter Firebolt with Dropperbolt, it sill works when trapped (and the Phasing Arc also jumping only once)

[late hinge]

Hitting the ground can also trigger it. (yet mina will be trapped after teleportation)

[spice delta]

fly downwards and the other bolt bundle also work

[grizzled gyro]

cool

[swift bison]

I just realized that this is right the case. Since we have enough LIGHT_SHOT to adjust the speed multiplier to 20, even if a wand has a speed multiplier below 1 (which generally won't be too low), it will be raised to 20, and if it’s above 1, it’ll still be capped at 20. So, there’s truly no need to remove the wand speed.

For these two wands, just need to horizontal fire would work well.

{{Wand2
| wandCard     = Yes
| wandPic      = Wand 0832.png
| castDelay    = 0.40
| rechargeTime = 0.33
| manaMax      = 3671.00
| manaCharge   = 5000.00
| capacity     = 26
| spread       = 0
| speed        = 114514.00
| spells       = BURST_4,,
                 ADD_DEATH_TRIGGER,ROCKET_OCTAGON,TRANSMUTATION,DISC_BULLET_BIGGER,,
                 ADD_TIMER,MIST_RADIOACTIVE,CASTER_CAST,TELEPORT_PROJECTILE_CLOSER,,
                 DIVIDE_10,DIVIDE_3,DIVIDE_3,DIVIDE_2,ADD_TRIGGER,IF_HP,PHASING_ARC,LIGHT_SHOT,HORIZONTAL_ARC,,
                 DIVIDE_2,RESET
}}

{{Wand2
| wandCard     = Yes
| wandPic      = Wand 0821.png
| castDelay    = 0.40
| rechargeTime = 0.33
| manaMax      = 3671.00
| manaCharge   = 5000.00
| capacity     = 26
| spread       = 0
| speed        = 114514.00
| spells       = ,,,,
                 BURST_4,ADD_DEATH_TRIGGER,LASER_EMITTER_FOUR,BURST_2,DAMAGE,SWAPPER_PROJECTILE,FISH,ROCKET_OCTAGON,,
                 DIVIDE_10,DIVIDE_4,DIVIDE_4,DIVIDE_2,ADD_TRIGGER,IF_HP,PHASING_ARC,LIGHT_SHOT,HORIZONTAL_ARC,,
                 RESET
}}

[late hinge]

No terrain should be in the way when use them, no biome modifiers that will affect the friction.
When teleported to the destination, you may get injured. (up to 360 dmg, please be prepared)
It is recommended to keep a certain distance from the ground, while using the last build.
Please aim right to the left or right with a deviation of less than 10 degrees.

[late hinge]

More selectable builds:

[spice delta]

cool

[late hinge]

Mechanism attached:

The part for timing is this
( the projectile's gravity should be greater than 0 )

Due to the sequence of component updates ( further verification is needed ), a projectile with zero speed will not collide with the terrain
Unless the terrain surrounding it disappears or its speed is no longer zero

The "direction" of zero velocity is to the right
So Phaseing Arc will make the projectile move to the right
When there is no terrain at its destination, the projectile will fall due to gravity
Then Downwards Bolt Bundle is activated
( technically, if the friction is large enough and the gravity is small enough, DBB will be activated after multiple "phaseing" )

[hard surge]

These three spells teleport you to a mirror world?

[spice delta]

with the right setup, yes

[hard surge]

You should add that to the post

[spice delta]

you could drop it down squidwards chasm, wait a bit, then jump down and wait at the bottom for a couple of minutes

[hard surge]

Does that just exploit some unloaded chunk logic on the falling projectile?

[spice delta]

mirror world vault of obscure knowledge, or which post are you refering to?

[spice delta]

at the top of the chasm, no terrain below you is loaded, the crytsall just falls straight out of loaded chunks

[hard surge]

How does it eventually expire, then?

[spice delta]

you waiting at the bottom loads terrain below you, which causes collision in MW to succeed

once crystal reaches MW, it collides with the ground you are loading

stops, and dies to octonal bolt bundle

[hard surge]

Is the collision using modular arithmetic?

[spice delta]

idk

but small tp bolt succeeds in MW

likely same reason

[hard surge]

Then how does it work in the mirror world concept? Gotta be something like that, right?

[spice delta]

how does what work exactly?

terrain collision?

idk

[spice delta]

you could probably be unlucky and have that fail somehow

[hard surge]

Are you using "MW" to refer to mirror world, as in a repeated world in the vertical direction?

[spice delta]

yeah, MW is 512 chunks (2^18 px) in each cardinal direction

[hard surge]

I thought that the infinite repetition only works for the works

[spice delta]

with the crystal setup above, we can only go down (or up with antigrav)

thats a different thing

thats intended

MWs are a bug

work looping is similar to PWs

both of which are very different from MWs

[hard surge]

Wait, unrelated to this (only off topic for a second), are the wang tiles in each level of the work loops and parallel worlds the same as the original world, just with different rolls on the other gens? I'm on noitamap and it looks like that

[hard surge]

Why call it "mirror world" then

[spice delta]

because it is different form "parallel worlds", and terrain there appears "mirrored"

#1389424824035577856 message here is a thread collecting knowledge on Mirror Worlds

[hard surge]

Why isn't there a wiki on this yet

[spice delta]

because it is not well understood

there are some mentions, but no dedicated page