Zeta bugless DPS record

[proper fiber]

Description

= POWER
Nothing much to explain. A damage wand using make sure you only have on other wands / don't have any other wands at all.

Requirements

55k+ health, preferably higher. That's the amount you need to cap damage
Multiple or to prevent from decreasing your hp

[tiny vessel]

Zeta pog

[onyx talon]

Out of curiosity, how is this different to just replacing zeta with tau? Is it just for a lower mana cost?

[tiny vessel]

You need the zeta so that you hit the recursion limit before spell duplication is cast. Otherwise spell duplication would copy the tau and the divides which would break everything

[onyx talon]

Ah, fair enough

[tepid kite]

Cardinal: Sixteen sextillion, six hundred seventy-six quintillion, three hundred sixty-one quadrillion, nine hundred ninety trillion, two hundred seventy-two billion, one hundred eighty-eight million

[river elbow]

uh Idk what I did but it managed to go in the negative...

[onyx talon]

Integer overflow?

[river elbow]

Yeah

[balmy umbra]

New healing wand

And piercing and boomerang

[river elbow]

already has piercing

[near yacht]

I like how the solution is effectively to just not use Zeta

[stiff wraith]

zeta (cooler alpha)

[main wharf]

the gods are terrified

[stiff wraith]

that only happens when you use a nan deleter wisp

[main wharf]

What’s that?

[stiff wraith]

homebringer cast infinitely far away which deletes any entity it hits and lives forever

[polar quest]

Does this have to be on an always-cast-2? Will the wand of multitudes work?

[tiny vessel]

yes, specifically cast 2

the exact amount of draw is important to seperate the payload cast and the stp cast

and also you really shouldn’t make this in a casual game lol

also inb4 noby comes in and corrects me (it’s been a bit since i made wands)

[proper fiber]

Always Cast is a different thing

This is spell / cast

[polar quest]

Sorry yeah I meant 2/cast

[proper fiber]

You can sacrifice some DPS and make it on a spell/cast 1 wand

[polar quest]

Thanks for the reply. Do you think the tentacle s2p is still the must functional way to do crazy damage? I’m on a <spoiler> orb run

[proper fiber]

Arguably better than since it doesn't cause lag

Also, #wand-help is the place to ask general questions like that

[tiny vessel]

well it makes crazy lag, but also deal literally infinite damage, so…

and also ||34 orbs|| is a spoiler

[proper fiber]

Honestly, the whole #wand-research category should be spoiler free, except maybe #wand-help

[tiny vessel]

ehh

spells aren’t spoilers, only how to unlock them

[proper fiber]

I mean as in it's annoying to spoiler stuff in channels where people who don't want to be spoilered don't really go to

[stiff wraith]

all wand mechanics are now spoilers

they are hidden secrets the game leaves unexplained

[tiny vessel]

if wand building discussion starts to contain so many spoilers (which i highly doubt are too related to the spells on the wand, tho maybe for the usage of the wand) then perhaps like just shift to the #noita-spoilers channel

[cyan marlin]

Can be slightly improved upon without crashing the game, just with tweaks.

Dropping one Blood to Power or Crit on Bloody (I dropped the crit) and adding an extra Spells to Power at the end with the free slot let me hit 2.62e+22. I fired it once, swapped wands, then fired it twice in a row (for a total of 3 times) to double up on the projectiles absorbed. Could potentially build up more projectiles for more absorption gains but eh, I feel like that's not in the spirit of the fight.

Alternatively, the game just barely survives replacing the DB2 with a DB3. Firing it 3 times results in a crash, firing it twice does not. This method hit 3.69e+22.

I'm not sure that this method can be pushed much further with such tweaks unless some shenanigans can be done to get even more copies of Blood to Power and Crit on Bloody. Duplicating Spells to Power more is out of the question as it's too resource-intensive.

Holy Necro batman, my bad. Just noticed this is a 2022 thread. Do people still get yelled at for necro in 2025?

[stiff wraith]

probably these improvements didnt work in 2022

game wasnt LAA then

[cyan marlin]

LAA?

Also does this thread still hold the record?

[stiff wraith]

large address aware

until somewhat recently game couldnt allocate more than 2³¹ bytes of memory

now its 2³²

[eternal gulch]

is this good in actual game

[acoustic raft]

It's a very late game wand and tbh the only practical purpose would be ||64 orb (or some other very high orb values ig) kolmi||, but you could use it in an actual run

Normally you'd be better off using in the build itself and to copy it tho

Just so you don't need to sacrifice your other wands to have your damage be effective