The progression is too slow especially when we take into account how the BP costs 800 UNC and doesn't give a single one back, we should at least be done the courtesy to have an easy going progression to get our rewards, i suggest the following either seprately and adjusted accordingly or combined.
-Increase the progress rate
-Add additional tasks that reward us with BP progress either by BP XP or having whole level done. (Depends if BP XP have the same value as regular progress XP)
#Battlepass Progression
errant fiber
tiny void
100% agree, no one wants a grindy battlepass
opal tree
100% agree too. I love the game and play it sometimes. I dont want (ans i cant) spend another 100 hours within 90 days.
tiny void
100% agree too. I love the game and play it sometimes. I dont want (ans i cant) ...
From what i saw, it doesnt even have bp task or bp missions
blissful topaz
ive had quite a few games now, and ive still not got to level 2, no chance will i be paying for this pass
tiny void
ive had quite a few games now, and ive still not got to level 2, no chance will ...
No one will if its this grindy, its pure logic but some people wont understand... im going to have the bp cause i bought the cbt packs, if i wouldnt i wouldnt pay a penny for it. I mean, i have a life hahahaha
golden trout
Agree to the above for example currently the system would take for casual player who reach 15-25K around 204 rounds in total of 30Minutes matches that must be atleast 1500xp otherwise it takes 2 more matches and can go up to 300 the whole battlepass takes the same time a player levels up from level 1 to level 51 something thats stupid most people have barely 1-3 hour or less not to mention 90% of the player count does not reach above 20-25K score per game
silk totem
At least let us buy the vehicles or guns in packages in the store, jeeez
ashen onyx
Well they have to keep us busy until next update somehow 😂
errant fiber
Well they have to keep us busy until next update somehow 😂
Pying them money should provide us with the ben ifits of not having a painfully bad grind. I bought the pass and i expect to have fun grindin g it instead of making it a job
spring kraken
I 100% agree, I was playing for 3 hours and I just got the second level of the battlepast
mild cloud
I 100% agree I was playing for like 3-4 hours an got only two level of the battlepass
lusty fjord
2 full tac-ops matches with top score and got my 1st award for the bp yay!
buoyant crag
"I ve had quite a few games now, and i ve still not got to level 2, no chance will i be paying for this pass"
This!
patent blaze
There's Literally 80 days..
wispy ermine
I agree the progression needs to be quicker for future seasons as I doubt they can update the current one
tiny void
There's Literally 80 days..
Yeah, ikr but no one wants to get burnt out playing Tac Ops the same maps everyday
tiny void
I agree the progression needs to be quicker for future seasons as I doubt they c...
If they want to, they could do it. Plenty other games have done it
wispy ermine
I also agree that if new content is locked behind it it should not be at the later levels of the Bo
potent wren
The progression is too slow especially when we take into account how the BP cost...
Totally agree, they should change the bp to make the progression easier or add add something to make It happen, i honestly regret the fact that i have spent Money for something that make my games feel like a duty instead of a fun session.
For those who dont know, if you go on "Carrer" in the main menu there are Daily challenges wich give some exp, but tbh they're not even that Easy, and making them rotate every day only add a lot of pressure, and make the feeling you get even more of a duty than It Is already.
Im sorry for eventual error in the message, i hope its understandable
ripe raven
I can see how it is grindy for some folks. Could be tuned a bit but I don't see a major issue with it. I've already hit rank 40 in the battle pass.
Between double exp and the major question: are you playing the OBJ? Winning helps also. If you have good matches it takes between 1 to 3 games to lvl up in the pass.
So take that into consideration as well.
patent blaze
@errant fiber understandable...so what did you exactly pay for? Premium bp?
left wedge
I can see how it is grindy for some folks. Could be tuned a bit but I don't see ...
If we say it takes 3 games per Bp lvl, cause sometimes a bad round will occur. that would still be 153 games
So you have to play atleast 2 games / 1 hour a day to make it in time.
golden trout
I can see how it is grindy for some folks. Could be tuned a bit but I don't see ...
for your joke comment you get for having 20000 score on a scoreboard as casual player 2K xp that is 3 games per level so you may want to think before you add such obvious questions only 5% of the player base gets over 30K if you say its not true ,its a lie vehicle kills are 500 ,capturing or as you say Objective gives you up to 800 the only thing that makes it so you get more than that is kills inside objective, IF someone steals your vehicle or soldier kill ,you get almost NOTHING only 100 i see tons of level 51 barely reaching 25-30k as a full squad XP booster holds 60Minutes most of the time meaning 2 rounds Tactical ops and even that is at most 4K xp then its painfully obvious that they made a horrendous grind with the battlepass
ripe raven
for your joke comment you get for having 20000 score on a scoreboard as casual p...
Humm. RPG issue?
golden trout
no the devs think that because 5% of the player base who get 50K everyone can do it its over 100 Hour to max the battlepass with constant playing
ripe raven
All I can think of is you are not working with your squad, seeing the threat and pursuing it via enemy armor and such. I Hit 51 in about 5 days... maybe a week?
But what I can say when you have Blueberries not pulling their own wait. Trying to carry a game is back breaking.
arctic lake
Assuming you got 6k xp after each match, you would've had to play five hours a day to hit 51 levels in five days.
I'm sure you can see how plenty of players will see this as an impossibility.
tiny void
for your joke comment you get for having 20000 score on a scoreboard as casual p...
Its made for 24/7 tryhards , mods and streamer wannabes or people who has an actively group/clan. Not everyone wants to play the same game 24/7 and has social life or want to play other games. Im glad that i didnt get to 51 fast and took my time leveling, cause playing the same maps over and over and same game mode burn my eyes, at least i keep leveling up my account and get some new juicy guns, cause if it was only for the battle pass, it would be kinda depressing.
golden trout
well thing is they tied the new guns and vehicles ot the battlepass so rip to that i mean imugi is almost at the END of the battlepass
tiny void
I used some boosters, it makes the things easier... but they are very limited... also i bought the plus 10 version, i dont want to grind 4ver
golden trout
i did too yet wasnt worth it you get 1hour booster only that last for 2 games
tiny void
i did too yet wasnt worth it you get 1hour booster only that last for 2 games
Yeah, it isnt worth, also, u are forced to play
silk totem
for your joke comment you get for having 20000 score on a scoreboard as casual p...
Yeah, it's absurd. I will not be purchasing the next battle pass if they timelock content like this and not offer any real accelerated progress. The pitiful boosters don't count. I'd be much more willing to purchase the battlepass if they just let you unlock the new content within the first 15 levels.
Oh if you use this booster, follow squad lead orders / be a squad lead, do X-Y-Z specific thing, let the moon and stars align, find a 4-leaf clover, obtain a unicorn horn, you'll level quickly.
It's like no, that's called bad
golden trout
yup or you dont get the guns or vehicles stupid they didnt mention how you unlock them if you dont do the battlepass
welp whatever just gonna drop the game rather invest my time in tarkov and not be forced to invest over 100-200 hours for a battlepass
funny thing is i and someone else had almost identical score his comment was follow squad lead 😂 like damn i literaly had 5K attack points and over 20 kills i got 1,3K xp for that
brisk thicket
Hmm, what if there wasn't be any time limit? 🤔 I agree that bp is too grindy. I don't know from where some people get the information that 20k-30k points per tac-ops round its norm for average player. The norm is 10 - 15k while playing objective, 20 - 25k with super cooperative squad (which is rare). So scoring 10 - 12k points per round while the one lvl of bp needs 6k exp gives 5-6 matches for just one bp lvl, not 2-3 how some people are saying. It wouldn't be big deal if there wasn't be any time limit and everybody could unlock bp rewards in his own pace.
quasi flame
100% agree the battlepass progress is SUPER slow. Rate needs to be about 1.5x-2x of what it is now or there needs to be no time limit.
I end up top of the leaderboard in most games and see barely any progress. For a more casual player it's going to be impossible to complete without spending 200hs
Also, add free XP boosters and make the boosters more meaningful.
patent blaze
no the devs think that because 5% of the player base who get 50K everyone can do...
it Literally took me 12 days, between/after classes, using boosters...only campers will complain stating 'it's too grindy' gotta actually 'play' if you want to level up
buoyant crag
it Literally took me 12 days, between/after classes, using boosters...only campe...
how many hours did u play on this 12 days?
a "normal" person can afford about 1 to 2 hours a day
left wedge
12 days. 51 / 12 = 4,25 Bp lvl per day. That’s roughly 4-5h playtime per day. People with other hobbies, family, long job shifts can’t afford this time effort
ripe raven
All I see is people complaining about people being better than other folks. The pass really isn't that hard if you are pulling your weight in game; period. Even on a loss.
From what I see. Most of you all have some sort of scapegoat to blame things on, time, I don't play with people, and the best one in summary "I have crippling skill issue". You literally have or had like 90 days. If you can't get to 51 by that point or let alone 20 to 30 days in? Reevaluate your game play.
Granted some folks take their time and others have a playstyle all their own. How ever long it takes them doesn't matter nor does the person care.
pastel juniper
Use boosters as well like 
silk totem
All I see is people complaining about people being better than other folks. The ...
That’s b/c you don’t understand the issue from the perspective of a consumer. You are correct in stating that it is not hard, but it is tedious. If I pay 800 of the premium currency, I expect to obtain accelerated progress, guaranteed, and I don’t mean through boosters, I mean I want the new content within the first like 15 levels of the BP. Why the expectation ? B/c the entire shop is built around convenience and early access to sell products. Blueprints allowing customers to use modifications, weapons and vehicles way before they unlock them, or skip stock grinds. I purchased the T-72 Modernization, Winter Escalation Marder, Helicopter Brigade, M2000 packages b/c it meant I could use it before I unlocked it, and I could immediately use things like Shrapnel shells without grinding on the T-72. A 39 kill, 17k score match netted me 3k XP over 30 min, half a level of the BP I think, each level is 6k. That is a good game that is the exception not the norm. The Imugi is a level 49 unlock, the last of the new content, which equates to 49h, maybe 44h if we consider boosters. If I am a working adult that plays on average 2h a day, that is 24.5 days. That means I need to play for 24.5 days, as a paying customer to experience all the new content, even under these incredibly favorable assumptions. Now factor in that average games do not yield that much XP, or you get thrown into matches that are progressing which net you less XP per unit time, or that force you to quit b/c well some people just don’t like playing at an SP disadvantage for no good reason. This supposed duration will skyrocket.
silk totem
That’s b/c you don’t understand the issue from the perspective of a **consumer**...
This is not how you sell a BP. Customers pay for speed, for convenience. The current way the BP is set up is “ Oh be a squad lead, follow squad orders, do X-Y-Z, find a 4-leaf clover, rocking horse hair and a unicorn horn, and get all the new content in maybe a month. “ It’s like no, that’s not how you market and sell products to consumers convincingly. As a consumer, if I pay $X, I want to know I am going to get Y product, in definitive time Z.
I’ll float this idea. If you pay for the BP, your BP progression looks different, you get all the new stuff within the first 10 levels. What happens ? More people will be willing to pay for it, people get to experience new content faster, developers get more revenue. Win-win. This is the most highly upvoted feedback in this server, and somehow it is being dismissed with some kind of befuddling condescension.
pastel juniper
2 games = 1 BP level sounds like decent progression for 3 months
silk totem
2 games = 1 BP level sounds like decent progression for 3 months
If it were 2 average games of the average player for a single level, that would be more palatable, but alas this is not the case
left wedge
It’s more like 3-4
silk totem
Which is exactly the problem. The BP can be monetized much much more effectively to the mutual benefit of both the developers and players. It's such a common sense and easily implementable thing to do.
I don't see how accelerated progression for paying players is controversial, or will do anything other than increase revenue. Even if it doesn't, it surely wouldn't reduce it.
left wedge
Furthermore afaik there is no catch-up system, yet. Damn new players who always camp
And its currently impossible to skip BP tiers with UNC. In my eyes thats a missed opportunity to monetize the BP even more.
worldly tundra
100% agree
bright ginkgo
You can easy do 10 levels a day for playing 10-12 hours
That is not a long time at all
Stop playing TDM and do objectives in Tac Ops follow squad leader orders.
left wedge
I see the sarcasm. But the often mentioned „follow leader orders, just be leader“ won’t do shit if your Leader is a brainless monke who always marks the most distant objective or your squad members won’t follow your orders.
bright ginkgo
Get some friends to play with then or find some in #954365354346418238
Im max level in battlepass and all my friends are max level in battlepass.
pastel juniper
left wedge
To clarify I have no problem with the BP, but this survivorship bias regarding Bp is so annoying
„Just have premades“, „just play better“, „play x amount a day“. No thoughts about the casuals, new players who will start with the game in a few weeks or any other group which can’t spent a X amount of time a week
bright ginkgo
There is still 70 days left of the battlepass so why the rush?
pastel juniper
legitimately
merry aspen
i literally have 22 lvl of bp after playing for 4 days for just few hours. Cmon ppl stop crying
arctic lake
Your or mine lone personal experience matter little. After a match, look at the scoreboard and you will see the average player makes 1500xp a match. People with responsibilities can play one hour, maybe two a day, that is half or one level of the battlepass a day.
**Assuming **you don't play any other games and main World War 3, it will takes the average player 60 days to finish it.
**That is not a good battlepass, mainly because it has a straight line design. ** This won't be a problem if the battlepass was more like a tree and each player can choose which skins they want and work toward them.
left wedge
Can’t play a few days because of reasons? Boom fomo kicks in
merry aspen
Your or mine lone personal experience matter little. After a match, look at the ...
Lol there is enough time to up the whole bp in time. Also regarding average player making 1500 xp. Just be better, play better. Skill issue. The only thing i can agree on is adding bp tasks that reward u with xp. U can earn 1500 - 2000 xp by playing TDM thats like 10 min lol.
left wedge
What about the people who don't like to play TDM? Nice argument for something you pay for: "git gud and / or grind the mode you don't like. Otherwise you dont deserve the rewards"
arctic lake
What about the people who don't like to play TDM? Nice argument for something yo...
Don't engage someone like that, this is someone who plays ww3 at least four hours a day and is clearly on a superiority trip so let them be.
merry aspen
As i said i would agree on adding bp tasks that reward bp xp. However its not the game or developers fault that somebody can only play an hour a day. If we use ur logic lets delete whole progression system as its too grindy for the casuals.
left wedge
The whole progression system is not time gated, unlike the bp lol
merry aspen
but u have 60 something days left
stray hull
yeah, task system would be great addition, took me week to grind to level 8
bright ginkgo
Your or mine lone personal experience matter little. After a match, look at the ...
Again i dont see the problem.. you cry that it will take the average player 60 days to complete you have 90 days?
buoyant crag
its quite easy: It takes to long for me, so i dont buy it.
So my feedback is: If u want my money, then make it faster
pastel juniper
i dont understand why you are clowning him when his points are valid, but in hindsight the content shouldnt be behind a BP progression or should be at the very start with blueprints as extras
merry aspen
Again i dont see the problem.. you cry that it will take the average player 60 d...
Bro speaking facts language
fading bison
So i'm curious, lets say you're an average player that makes 1.5k EXP per game and you play twice per day. How long do you think is an appropriate time to complete the battlepass?
bright ginkgo
So i'm curious, lets say you're an average player that makes 1.5k EXP per game a...
Still have 90 days so does it matter?
daring bay
i'm injured and i'm taking time off of work so i have nothing better to do but play video games, so i've been playing ww3 a lot
i've sunk a LOT of time into the game in the last 2 weeks or so and i just passed level 21 of the battle pass. i'd like to think of myself as an above-average player, too, just going off how i feel i play and my score per minute (610 as of right now)
now think about what someone actively working or studying would have to do to progress...or someone who just isn't available 24/7 to play the game whenever they want. it's very grindy right now
bright ginkgo
i'm injured and i'm taking time off of work so i have nothing better to do but p...
I mean what battlepass can you complete if you barely play video games?
daring bay
one that doesn't require you to dedicate your life to it
tiny void
I mean what battlepass can you complete if you barely play video games?
Can u stop being so rude? Not everyone is u, not everyone can play consecutive days, not everyone can play in a group, u arent the centre of the world, feet on the ground fella.
bright ginkgo
Can u stop being so rude? Not everyone is u, not everyone can play consecutive d...
No1 is being rude im just being real with people that obv complain for no reason when they have plenty of time now you sir need to get your feets on the ground and wake up
tiny void
No1 is being rude im just being real with people that obv complain for no reason...
He´s making a point, not everyone plays like u or like me, it doesnt matter and u just threw that comment... He is saying that he´s injured, and he played a lot of time and didnt leveled up too much. We are not asking to complete the battlepass in 2 days like tryhards do, but just a little consideration. Maybe task or missions like any other game? A battlepass shouldnt be time consuming, a good one is just a stim to continue playing. Do u know what happens when a bp is too grindy? People get sick grinding and a great percentage doesnt return in season 2, cause they have been playing the 4 maps available 4000 times to reach max bp level.
bright ginkgo
He´s making a point, not everyone plays like u or like me, it doesnt matter and ...
dude what part of you have 90 days
silk totem
So i'm curious, lets say you're an average player that makes 1.5k EXP per game a...
For someone who pays for the BP, in terms of unlocking all the new content ( 2 vehicles and 2 weapons ), which I see as the important thing here instead of completing the whole BP, no more than 5 hours should be spent. For the whole BP itself, maybe 40-50h ?
For a free player it doesn't really matter if it's longer b/c that would incentivize purchases and drive sales.
golden trout
dude what part of you have 90 days
incorrect people who got the battlepass for free had to wait for almost over 2 weeks and werent allowed to buy it meaning you had 80 days at most
left wedge
So i'm curious, lets say you're an average player that makes 1.5k EXP per game a...
I think the majority don’t want to complete the Bp that fast, but to lock new content like Imugi behind roughly 100h and QBZ 60h playtime for the average 1,5k exp player plus the time gated aspect is not a good selling argument.
I know the new content is for free, but it’s still not attractive enough to buy the Bp, atleast for my casual / bad playing friends.
If the content would be every 5th level, like level 5: K2, level 10: Tank, Level 15: QBZ and level 20: Imugi it would be imo better.
bright ginkgo
incorrect people who got the battlepass for free had to wait for almost over 2 w...
mate you still get progression while not having bought the battlepass LMAO 
shell pecan
100% agree, no one wants a grindy battlepass
im cool if its grindy and "JUICY" that pay you back for the next battlepass. but this battlepass its too grindy and doesnt pay you back.. and yes its not very juicy tbh.
stray hull
bp would be miles better if it would be realised like in cod, pays you back and overall faster(and more content btw). but now all hopes for tasks system
golden trout
especialy it gives you the silver coins a currency you get from playing anyways tons of
stray hull
yeah, but still
arctic lake
Frustrated with the slow progression I decided to activate a booster, you guys... This battlepass is made to be finished with boosters only if you don't no life the game.
I've been going up a level a match with boosters active.
tiny void
Frustrated with the slow progression I decided to activate a booster, you guys.....
I leveled up from 30 to 51 this past weekend with boosters and the xp event, really fast. If it wasnt for that it would take me months...
tiny void
U did, just u, not me, not everyone _b
arctic lake
Maxed the battlepass in a week is code for "I played ww3 5 to 10 hours a day" for a week.
pastel juniper
With the 50% event booster and the extra time limited boosters, in 2 hours averaging 20000 score I went from 46 to 51
mild cloud
100% agree with this. As a full-time worker with a family, i dont have not so much Time...
rich latch
Lowering the BP progression is complete bullshit.
I also have to work 40+ hour weeks but managed to do it in a reasonable time.
Levelling through the Battlepass took maybe 25 hours at most.
If you can't spare that in 3 months, maybe you should accept that BPs require from you to actually play the game.
Instead of lowering the exp needed for the casuals they should give the people that actually want to play the game something to grind for.
untold plume
60 hours in, I've managed 20~ levels.
golden trout
Lowering the BP progression is complete bullshit.
I also have to work 40+ hour w...
damn you must have over 100K per match then insane 😲 kinda weird considering that you need over 100 matches for the battlepass with 20-40K xp and that each match needs atleast 30 minutes i call bs
fading bison
The BP needs a total amount of 300k XP to completed. If we say an average match is 25 min then that's 25h * 60 / 25 min = 60 matches => 300k XP / 60 matches = 5000 XP per match which is absolutely feasible, especially with XP booster.
golden trout
5K per Match would mean around 50k score again most dont get it and have around 10-25k and i Think told others that 4-7 times
That is 150 matches even with 25 minutes per Match over 60 hours
50k score point 60 Times how hard do you expect people to sweat ? Literaly look at Channel screenshot you see 90% of players getting RARELY 30k most time like i said 20-25k score and xp Booster arent infinite and are rare they hold only 2-3 matches if they are 1 hour