#More berry auras

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obtuse quail
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Creating a thread based on earlier discussion about adding more auras to berrys

young timber
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as it was said in the previous discussion, an exp berry would be nice to have considering the purify mechanics that will happen soon™️

lime nimbus
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Since there's yache and haban, I don't see why we don't have a stronger wacan (or weaker depending on how you look at it)

obtuse quail
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Exp berry would be nice to have
currency berry was the other one i brought up

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If individual auras for currency, using a gen 2 or 3 berry to increase money and dt would encourage using the farm more early game where money and DT are slow during active/semi idle play for those who don't leave their computers on all night

vital kayak
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qp one would be the most wanted in kanto especially if it's a gen 2 berry

young timber
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Kanto? I would use it now lol

vital kayak
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Qp and Bp are some very used currencies rn

obtuse quail
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Qp and bp would prob be a gen 4 or 5 berry

arctic loom
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Please no currency aura. aattendsQuoi

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That is a hell to balance.

obtuse quail
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Just limit it to where max is like 1.2-5 for a full farm

worldly nebula
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Money and dt berries? Absolutely

Diamond and BP berries? Almost certainly not

young timber
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why do you want to keep diamonds and BP so [pants]?

obtuse quail
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Diamonds prob because underground rework

vital kayak
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Don't we have 6 berry colors by now? Why not make it work similar like lum but it boosts the currency based on the berry colours surrounding it

obtuse quail
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Bp i have no idea

young timber
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it's obnoxious to no end to get those currencies. Diamonds being a waiting game with broken chains. BP being a horrible currency in general taking many, many hours

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I get it that not everything needs to be easy though

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so I don't have much to say besides "me issue"

worldly nebula
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BP is planned on being improved with Mt Battle
Diamonds, there's the forever 'coming soon' underground rework

young timber
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hm...

obtuse quail
young timber
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ok fine, what about QP and FP?

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ok FP would be funny lol

obtuse quail
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Give FP boost to kasib 🤪

worldly nebula
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QP.... Very much a good question. I wouldn't be opposed to it at the percentages that slk said.

Fp I want for the lulz

young timber
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give it to Tanga, come on

vital kayak
young timber
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Tanga is the only one that deserves FP aura

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although it already has an aura hahaha

obtuse quail
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Whats the repel berry?

vital kayak
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Micle

obtuse quail
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We could make it additive like that so only a few are needed for the mac benefit

young timber
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well let me see...

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arbitrarily I would say that Custap should have an aura

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since Micle, Rowap, and Jaboca do

obtuse quail
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Doing this could also remove the battle items that we have now and can create new battle items?

young timber
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and those 4 are the 600+ flavor berries

vital kayak
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Custap is the what berry?

young timber
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the 600+ Sweet berry

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gen 5. Does nothing except spawn when you forget to replant Lum and are keeping 21 Starf 🤪

arctic loom
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Anyway, not the topic here.

young timber
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yeah...

vital kayak
arctic loom
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The FP aura would be so fun. issou

young timber
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The flesh underneath the Custap Berry's tough skin is sweet and creamy soft.

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as for the use in-game

lime nimbus
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could keep the BP/diamond aura ones to lansat/apicot since they're gen 4+

young timber
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A Custap Berry allows the holder to move first in its priority bracket when HP is below ¼. lol

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but anyway, Micle is Repel; Jaboca is Roamer; Rowap is EV

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what's missing for Custap? lol

arctic loom
vital kayak
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Exp?

lime nimbus
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gym/dungeon time?

young timber
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I mean Custap could have Exp

worldly nebula
young timber
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you can get it in Kanto but it will take ya some time

arctic loom
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What about changing Tanga from reducing harvest to cancelling harvest but doubling FP ? k3_peepoglasses

young timber
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what you mean cancelling harvest?

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do I lose berries but gain more FP?

arctic loom
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Well, maybe not 0. only 1.

worldly nebula
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Yeah 0 would be too "kill the noobs"

young timber
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so I plant Tanga instead of Payapa for extra FP for Colbur Nonsense. Amazing lol

jagged compass
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what if you get a harvest Tanga quest

lime nimbus
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but 1 basically means free FP with gen 5 berries

young timber
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but those take a day

lime nimbus
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maranga strats galore

arctic loom
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They are not worth your time, lol.

young timber
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Maranga takes half a day

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because if you are gonna use this berry then you won't be boosting with Wacan

worldly nebula
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Colbur Nonsense 2: Tanga Drift

obtuse quail
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Tanga dift would be 3

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2 colbur 2 nonsense

young timber
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nah, you would be using Cheri

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or something fast 😛

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not something slow, come on

arctic loom
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Eugene what are your thoughts about click attack aura ? k3_atr

young timber
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AC in shambles 🤪

worldly nebula
lime nimbus
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: (

worldly nebula
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Plus, iirc, click attack will be getting yet another rebalance when shadows are added

arctic loom
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What is second thought ?

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Ah ? Did not know. I thought shadow mons only got you the attack multiplier.

young timber
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can I ask what the attack multiplier will be? 😅

lime nimbus
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1.2x?

worldly nebula
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I should know that but I forget

And the idea was that purified (not shadow) mons could add to click attack

young timber
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I kinda remember that part

arctic loom
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Individual, like held items. Malus on shadow, bonus on purified. Last time I check at least.

worldly nebula
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XP to purify increases exponentially with more mons already purified

So mono-anything will get a straight buff

arctic loom
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Thus the XP aura !

worldly nebula
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Required XP below 70 purification is pretty small.

young timber
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yeah xp aura for the completionist so they take less days or whatever

worldly nebula
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Ok yeah, the back 10 purifications for completionists will be loooong

young timber
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while letting people have chople + berry exp

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instead of chople + starf lol

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I already equipped all my guys with Miracle Chests in my 0C 🤪

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mostly because I don't care about getting the +attack held items

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anyway, berries. What if you have a lame exp one to help people in early game (so not too late a gen) and give Custap the good number?

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we already have Yache / Haban being bad and super bad

worldly nebula
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I think making a list of un-aura'd berries, and wishlist auras can help answer that

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Cuz early game folks don't have full farm or lum's yet anyways

young timber
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ok give me a moment to get the berries with no auras

worldly nebula
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So a good one could still be good but not fully optimized

And no hurry, I'm to bed

young timber
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All GEN 1
All GEN 2 (Except Lum)
All GEN 3
- GEN 4
Occa
Rindo
Coba
Chilan
- GEN 5
Custap
Kee
Maranga
Liechi
Ganlon
Salac
Apicot
Lansat
Enigma
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those don't have auras

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I took Overgrow and Parasite as auras but if you want to count them anyway then you can add:
Pamtre (Gen 3), Rindo, Occa, Colbur (Gen 4) - Added

obtuse quail
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Wishlist of auras?
So far
exp
currencies (all or individual)
stronger or weaker wacan to match yache and haban via khattab

obtuse quail
obtuse quail
jagged compass
young timber
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very well, I'll edit

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then should enigma be counted as well?

jagged compass
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i think we don't want enigma to have an aura but I'm not sure

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I guess might as well, since you listed gen 1 berries

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just for reference

young timber
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yes

obtuse quail
young timber
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I mean at this point I just know which ones have auras and which don't lol

jagged compass
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there could be potential with parasite/overgrow berries to mess up a setup that needs combos

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if they have auras of their own

young timber
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I mean Kebia is parasite + mutation rate

jagged compass
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I wonder how complex we can get

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like imagine something that needs 3 or 4 auras to work in conjunction lol

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that might be impossible though lol

young timber
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I mean that would be fun but not sure what effect that would need to have to make it worth the effort

jagged compass
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something that boosts egg attack gained?

obtuse quail
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That just sounds like people who hate farm now will hate it more and wait for you guys to figure it out instead and go with whatever whoever comes up with

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The aura conjunction one

young timber
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that's the game in general

jagged compass
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i thought people liked complex farm setups? or have I been talking with pant too much lol

young timber
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vitamins were added, people created a spreadsheet for best setup

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so I don't see the issue

obtuse quail
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You been talking to pant too much lol

young timber
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and those who don't want to interact with it can skip it

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even if you made it super simple, people would still ask for the best setup

obtuse quail
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I dont know if boosting egg attack gain would work

young timber
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there is no experimentation, you just wait for someone to give you the answer lol

obtuse quail
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Because it would have to be better than egg steps since faster hatching would still gain you more attack with vitamins

young timber
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people go so far as to ask "where do I dig"

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I highly dislike people posting their underground layers like [Pant continued rambling]

jagged compass
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ah I just remembered an old idea for friendship I had, but we can't have an aura for a mechanic that doesn't exist...

young timber
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that would be weird lol

jagged compass
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what no gigantamax aura? 😢

obtuse quail
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We dont know how gigantamax will work yet

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So dont really have a way to brainstorm

jagged compass
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woosh

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(also yes we do it's dungeons or something lol)

young timber
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better loot aura

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instantly rejected lol I would actually make that a battle item or a flute or something

jagged compass
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dowsing machine?

young timber
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that's not better loot

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that's "chance of getting more items"

jagged compass
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:/

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you're right

obtuse quail
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Bonus to timers aura?

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Increase underground energy regen aura?

young timber
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I would never use the underground one

jagged compass
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i like the timer idea
energy is too niche

young timber
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Restore is way cheaper, even in Kanto

obtuse quail
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Something else with friend safari?

jagged compass
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please no

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keep safari in its own containment area, I want nothing to do with it

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um.. "lol"

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it's a great mechanic haha...

obtuse quail
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Just trying to find more auras

young timber
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the filler will kill me in my poison file

obtuse quail
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The silver and golden berrys could be trade ups from non silver versions

young timber
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why 10? why not just 3 or something manageable

obtuse quail
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Like 500 reg gets 1 silver

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500 silver gets 1 gold

young timber
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anyway auras

jagged compass
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oh you mean the lets go berries?

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razz or pinap tho

obtuse quail
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Both

jagged compass
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hmm

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maybe for silver

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gold should be rare

obtuse quail
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Dungeon loot lol

jagged compass
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eh well actually

obtuse quail
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That only works for safari 🤣

jagged compass
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i guess it depends on what they do?

lime nimbus
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AC currently has no way to increase dungeon/gym timer or click attack, unlike default. Why not click atk or +timer aura?

jagged compass
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is razz +catch rate?

young timber
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click attack

jagged compass
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or shouldn't it be?

young timber
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AC

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Khattab please

lime nimbus
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look, I had the right spirit ok XD

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but seriously, timer was my main shtick. I just slapped click atk coz afaik no way to get it other than flute/battle item

jagged compass
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for what it's worth I think there's an idea floating around to use click attack for ranger regions

young timber
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AC in shambles

jagged compass
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no like

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instead of regular attack

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no clicking, just the attack

lime nimbus
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sounds good, then real evo has a slight advantage from more res

young timber
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that would be a hard to balance region

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since click attack has a limit

jagged compass
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might be why it's still an idea lol

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no one's talked about extra regions in months

young timber
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and asking for maximum boosts for last part would be [p a n t s]

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it sounds like a complete nightmare

velvet latch
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I mean, yeah, but you are making a lot of baseless presumptions about how it would work there Pant lmao

lime nimbus
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the presumptions are understandable given current mechanics

young timber
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click attack is a value that has a hard limit

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it doesn't scale

jagged compass
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well it's not even planned so 🤷‍♂️

young timber
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the ways to increase it are known and are a few

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so I was just working with the extremes, yep

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my apologies

jagged compass
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anyways back to auras though

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I don't really have any ideas :/

young timber
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hm...

jagged compass
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but

young timber
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I'm annoyed now lol

jagged compass
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I have a feeling we'll figure out some more to add as we keep developing the game

young timber
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probably

jagged compass
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I can't really see anything that could benefit from an aura, or anything that would make the game more fun

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oh

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well I guess other than the exp aura the started this thread >_>

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cause shadowmons

young timber
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yeah it would have an immediate use

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it would help for that side once it happens

jagged compass
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but that's also kinda my point, cause shadowmons aren't in the game yet

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it's only because of them that it looks like a good idea

young timber
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and before that happen, +exp ain't bad if you are already done with shinies

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you can have a farm with egg steps + exp for BF grinding forever or something lol

jagged compass
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exactly!

young timber
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so it wouldn't be useless outside of shadow mons

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would also give AC +exp since they currently only have achievo boost + held items

lime nimbus
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reduced hatch cost berry 👀

jagged compass
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they're trying to make a living man

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give sam his money

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he has 2 cats and a child

lime nimbus
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Sam can take the food stamps berries and get the rest from the govt as subsidies

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it's something but may be too farfetched. Hmmm, maybe reduced energy usage aura. like 50% discount or something at max farm

jagged compass
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i don't know enough about the farm to have an opinion on that

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as a casual farmer however, I don't find them helpful very much

obtuse quail
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Exp berry would be good for early game

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So sticking it behind a gen 4+ berry would kinda suck

jagged compass
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got it, custap it is then

obtuse quail
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Since later game its just a few seconds to get back to 100

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Thats also why i said currency boost berrys

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Because money and dt suck for awhile around hoenn unless you super idle

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Qp too

jagged compass
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qp is getting refactored. somehow. sometime. by somebody. eventually

obtuse quail
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Instead of just late game berrys being super strong, give some more effects to early game berrys for a gradual build up

jagged compass
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yes, gradual build up! I love that

obtuse quail
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So someone can go something like oh, these berrys on the farm would give me more money per kill? Then deep dive into berry auras get even better in higher gens

jagged compass
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very incremental game-ish. wee need more stuff like that

obtuse quail
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But thats where my argument for currency aura berries come from

jagged compass
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I guess I feel like currency aura is kinda a waste, because currency can be coded better on its own

obtuse quail
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True but those auras can always be removed later

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Get something first to see how it goes then remove if its super shit

jagged compass
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well if I'm not coding it, then I wouldn't mind it

obtuse quail
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Like how helpers started as betas

jagged compass
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and now they aren't?

obtuse quail
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Doesn't seem like it anymore lol

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Farm hands were beta

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Then it grew to hatchery helpers

jagged compass
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i know I haven't been playing as much but I still don't have the hatchery cheevos :/

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so they still seem "in beta" to me

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idk

obtuse quail
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These new auras could be beta lol

jagged compass
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don't think devs would allow a beta aura

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I think exp is best one we have right now

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er.. I hope it is

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would suck if they rejected it...

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but I can't see any problem with it

obtuse quail
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I don't see any reason to reject it as an early game accessable item

half sparrow
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@pure quiver I know you are interested on this

pure quiver
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This is indeed an interesting place

lusty aspen
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Some aura ideas: catch rate, mon item drop rate, gem drop rate, attack speed, increased price recovery (deflation), weather override, damage buff (standard or click)

not sure how reasonable, useful, or even possible some of these are, but just ideas I had.

half sparrow
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mine as you know is repel base wanderers

obtuse quail
worldly nebula
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yeah, catch rate is probably out, especially since EV rate is already in and DT rate is proposed
Mon item drop rate.... almost certainly not, since those are supposed to be the rates they are
gem drop rate.... maybe? the math is weird
Attack speed is basically untouchable
increase price recovery.... sure? No idea how it's calculated but i don't see why not
Weather override... there's already some suggestion about using stones for that I need to triage to see if its forbidden or not
Damage buff, probably not. i think the farm isn't supposed to help with damage. but who knows

pure quiver
lusty aspen
# worldly nebula yeah, catch rate is probably out, especially since EV rate is already in and DT ...

I'm kinda surprised. I thought catch rate was the most reasonable of those options. Not a complaint, but just unexpected.

I figured attack speed was the most likely suggestion to be flat out impossible. Also thought damage buff was DOA since it got discussed earlier.

And gem balance seems really weird since it's almost a flat 1 for the vast majority of cases, so it's only marginally useful for gyms and really useful for late-game BF gem farming.

pure quiver
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The problem with catch rate is that you have to make the aura weak enough to not go above 100% catch rate on certain species

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One trick could be to make the aura not affected by Lum and that it only adds 5% catch rate with 25 berries

arctic loom
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If you struggle to catch pokémons, there might be better solutions than adding an aura : more specific selectors (soon), new balls, easier access to special balls, ...
An aura for that feels weird and barely usable.

pure quiver
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I mean, I originally used Golden Razz Berries for that, as they are more special berries than regular Razz Berries

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I also used Golden Pinap as a berry with an aura that has the same effect as the Dowsing Machine

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Only problem with that is what do you give Golden Nanab as aura

worldly nebula
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-Lower chance to run-

arctic loom
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Nah, the only problem is those berries do not exist. issou

pure quiver
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True, but they were part of the berrydex expansion suggestion

worldly nebula
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do we add new berries, and do we add new auras are for sure related questions

pure quiver
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Adding the Silver and Gold variants of the Razz, Nanab and Pinap feel the most logical to add to me

arctic loom
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The reason stated by JK to close your suggestion still prevails, though.
We would like auras on existing berries first.

pure quiver
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It makes even more sense since there are the Silver and Gold color in the code

young timber
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Ah... JK... I hope they are doing alright

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You know, after staring at the wall I was thinking... Catch rate would not be a useful aura

worldly nebula
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i do think that, based on what Pant has in the pins, we can rule out any gen 3 berries for auras and stick just to gens 4 and 5

young timber
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Yes, some stuff has pretty low catch rate but normal files have access to literal 100% catch rate

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So what would be the point? Given enough time they can just toss masters to everything

worldly nebula
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i would also say that Overtake is probably an aura-preventing thing. and that Enigma is basically, if not officially, an aura

young timber
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And now AC.... I have been told they deserve to suffer. Catch rate is only useful in Safari Zone

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But making a berry ONLY for Safari Zone would be weird

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But I guess bait exists

worldly nebula
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looks like 11 eligible berries

worldly nebula
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#RockBuff #MakeThatOtherWebsiteMad

young timber
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Btw why does Kebia increase mutation rate?

pure quiver
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By other website, you mean Reddit right?

young timber
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Normally it's so unusable due to the parasite

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And speaking of that, I totally forgot about useless Kasib prevention from Colbur

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So I should remove it from the list

arctic loom
pure quiver
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Another thing that could be done, adding Calcium and Carbo to some Berry Master, either the Sinnoh one or new one(s)

worldly nebula
winter zincBOT
pure quiver
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Ah, I see

half sparrow
worldly nebula
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as is #1347

winter zincBOT
pure quiver
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Guess we skipping Unova Berry Master

worldly nebula
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i would say: If there's a lore friendly reason for it, and a valid loot pool, it's pseudo-approved

half sparrow
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I think there isn't Lore after sinnoh...

pure quiver
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Bulbapedia only lists up to Sinnoh

half sparrow
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Yeah route 7 don't have any berry master, just berry plots

pure quiver
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I'd like for the dungeon exclusive balls to be sold in the Kalos BM

obtuse quail
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So what do we have right now that's universally agreed upon? Just xp aura?

arctic loom
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Yes.

obtuse quail
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More berry auras

obtuse quail
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What should the bonus for exp berries be?

young timber
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m a t h

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think how much you want with 20 + Lum + Petaya

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the usual suspects (Starf, and others) have 2.43x like that

glacial forge
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I think there was no discussion about #4224

winter zincBOT
glacial forge
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what about double auras for legendary berries?

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Feels unique enough for me

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they are not better than their single aura counterpart if you want to focus on one thing

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but they are better than using two different berries with two different auras at the same time if you wanna diversify

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so they can be a bit like amaze mulch (doing several things at the same time), but with two effects at the same time that you actually want to have at the same time

half sparrow
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If we are doing autopromotion what about #3926

winter zincBOT
obtuse quail
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Did we decide on the berry to xp?

young timber
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I nominate Custap

half sparrow
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Can I nominate tanga? So it reduce the berries but help with EXP?

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@lime nimbus

glacial forge
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double aura? pogfish

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I approve

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makes it easier to implement my idea lol

half sparrow
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Nah, kebia style. One negative effect and a positive effect (unless you think about kebia s a double aura)

glacial forge
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I don't consider parasites an aura

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reduce berries and exp is two auras

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extra mutation rate and parasiting is a single aura and a mutation

half sparrow
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Are we going into the wonderful world of 𝔖𝔢𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔠𝔰?

glacial forge
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I consider changing the content of a plot a mutation

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and changing what happens with a plot that doesn't change its contents an aura/effect

half sparrow
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Amount =content?

glacial forge
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no

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making an empty plot get a seed, changing one berry for another = changing content

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content = contenido

vital kayak
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I nominate coba

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It's one of the few gen 4 berries that don't have an aura but if yall think exp would be op then i'd also go with custap for it

half sparrow
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I mean custap isn't hard to get... Not since pinkan got added

pure quiver
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I'd say Coba too, it looks the most like a Rare Candy imo

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also I feel like Enigma should be silver color instead of purple

half sparrow
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Purple is 𝕮 𝕬 𝕹 𝕺 𝕹

glacial forge
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your face is canon Madge

half sparrow
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Do you want me talk about berry colors Canon? Do you?

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Differences between berry colors XY vs ORAS
Various purple --> blue/pink/red
Qualot yellow --> pink
Spelon red --> pink
Watmel pink --> green
Liechi red --> yellow
Lansat red--> pink
Enigma purple --> yellow
Roseli pink --> red
Kee yellow --> pink
Maranga blue --> yellow
----------———----------------
Lost --> 2x yellow, 3x red, 2x pink, purple, blue
Gain --> 4x pink, 1 green, 3x yellow, 1 red
----------———----------------
+1 yellow, - 2 red, +2 pink, - purple, -blue, +green

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Here you have... @glacial forge

glacial forge
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oh no, I couldn't care less chrisD

half sparrow
glacial forge
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boring

arctic loom
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Why are we talking about berry colours ? worryNotLikeThis

pure quiver
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because Enigma should be albelled silver instead of purple imo, as it the berry and its tree are gray and not effing purple

arctic loom
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Then read the title of the thread and suggest things accordingly, please !

lime nimbus
young timber
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I nominated Custap because Micle, Jaboca, and Rowap (all berries that mutate with 600 flavor) have an aura. Custap is the only one that doesn't

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However, if you think that it's too hard to get then... Coba would be fine since it requires only gen 2 to mutate it... Why is it gen 4 again?

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Anyway, Coba can be gotten pretty early. Custap would take you a few days.

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Both can be mutated in Kanto though

pure quiver
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what if every Enigma that gets planted gets an aura with a random effect?

arctic loom
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Unconsistant as hell, lol.

pure quiver
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it would be Enigma-tic tho

obtuse quail
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So we're at coba or custap?

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Should there be a weak version and a stronger version?

half sparrow
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Maybe is time to make little poll

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Who prefer
🧁Custap
dungeonToken cobba
Unown_GG both

young timber
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both Coba and Custap don't mutate to anything if you keep a field of em + Lum (unlike Chople)

obtuse quail
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Weaker and stronger version a_ for EXP aura or only one berryb_ ?

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Oh it don't work like that

young timber
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let's say we had both... what would be the difference?

half sparrow
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They need to start a message

young timber
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1.015 (like Rowap) and 1.03 (Chople) ?

obtuse quail
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EXP berry
1️⃣ Weaker and stronger
2️⃣ Only 1 berry

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Weaker one would be something that would be super easy to get early game

young timber
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I'm talking math here

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what's the max bonus you wanna have?

half sparrow
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What is max bonus you have now?

young timber
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a field?

half sparrow
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Of exp

young timber
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Chople (1.03) but it's impossible thanks to it becoming Chilan

obtuse quail
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1.2-1.5x and 2-2.5x?

young timber
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ah max exp bonus? Achievo + Lucky Egg + Exp Share

obtuse quail
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Gotta full math it to figure out

young timber
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  • Miracle Chest
obtuse quail
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Right so a max of 1.5x with all the would be more than enough

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So 1 berry it is

young timber
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early game achievo doesn't help that much but the other two you can easily get

half sparrow
arctic loom
young timber
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not a field aura

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also 1.03 is same as Chople

arctic loom
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I know. I was kidding because Shuca sucks.

young timber
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right now field auras are Chople (1.03) and Rowap and others (1.015)

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Rowap and others give you 2.43x with 4 Lum + Petaya

young timber
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since that one is the actual worst 🤪

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but that one is 0.something so it wouldn't have worked

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fair enough

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let me math what would happen if Chople values were used

arctic loom
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When do you need the XP aura, though ? That is a starting point for detailing.

young timber
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3.26x lmao

young timber
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you can also use it to replace the Starf if you don't care about shiny in the 15 Chople formation

arctic loom
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Yeah, I get the thing about purifying, seeing the curve, lol.

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Would it be better ?

young timber
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I mean, getting shinies is limited. Once you get them all you are done. Exp is forever

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and since people like to grind in BF where exp isn't exactly amazing and they breed the same mons

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exp aura > shiny aura

worldly nebula
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Lemme try to get a triage on this sooner than later. What were our proposed numbers? 1.03, 1.015, or.... Other?

young timber
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let me summarise this (20 berries + 4 Lum + 1 Petaya):

  • With 1.015 -> 2.43x Aura
  • With 1.03 -> 3.26x Aura
arctic loom
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I can not see it be 3.26. issou

worldly nebula
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Can ya slam that in a comment on GitHub so it's easy to find and refer to?

young timber
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with 21 berries + 4 Lum

  • With 1.015 -> 2.54x Aura
  • With 1.03 -> 3.46x Aura
obtuse quail
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The other option would be to make it additive

young timber
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we can try a different number?

half sparrow
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From 1.015 to 1.03 there is a full range of don't tried things

young timber
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with 1.02:

  • 20 berries -> 2.68x Aura
  • 21 berries -> 2.81x Aura
obtuse quail
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So is this all the numbers for exp aura?

let me summarise this (20 berries + 4 Lum + 1 Petaya):
With 1.015 -> 2.43x Aura
With 1.03 -> 3.26x Aura

with 21 berries + 4 Lum
With 1.015 -> 2.54x Aura
With 1.03 -> 3.46x Aura

with 1.02:
20 berries -> 2.68x Aura
21 berries -> 2.81x Aura

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Also I don't like double auras, at first glance everything sounds OP except for salac

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The aura combinations complement each other too well that there's almost no reason to use the original berries vs the double aura berrys

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So what I'm saying is that double aura's make the game easier

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Just to be easier

arctic loom
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Lucho made a mistake, though. The ×1.15 are actually meant to be ×1.015 as they give half the bonus of the berry they mimic.

young timber
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I just told you that the only berry that's 1.03x is Chople. The rest are 1.015x so half of 1.015x would be... 1.007x ?

arctic loom
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1.0075 ?

young timber
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yes that

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but as you can see up there... a 20 berries field of half Chople is as cool as 15 Chople

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which is the usual so -> broken

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because 15 Chople is also 2.43x since I use that one

arctic loom
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Numbers. shrug

young timber
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so half Chople is STILL too much

obtuse quail
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I don't get where in the berries mutation line the second aura comes from

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Because Attract + EV just makes farm wanderers easier, not much different from my "bad" idea of 1 tick wanderers

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egg growth + EV don't compliment each other but rowap is not part of the mutation line

young timber
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wait, there were 2 berries with + EVs?

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but why??

obtuse quail
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apicot, egg growth + EV and lansat, attract + EV

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liechi, harvest + growth and ganlon decay + growth

young timber
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I thought people hated Amaze Mulch 🤪

obtuse quail
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🤷‍♂️

glacial forge
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Yup, whatever I said I meant half

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Of course not better than the current

young timber
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because Amaze is Harvest + Growth (+ Mutation)

glacial forge
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The idea is that you can use both at the same time

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Worse than focusing on a single thing

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But better if you wanted to diversify

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People usually just focus, so this just gives more options

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Also, they were ideas

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Not that those had to be the ones implemented

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Or that it had to be those exact numbers

obtuse quail
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and the other one

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I don't think a base wander repel berry would be best

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Maybe a new mulch

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Or repel item itself might be better

glacial forge
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That's the main idea of double auras: Worse than focusing, but better than diversifying. What you can do with them can be different than what was listed

young timber
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I remember that repel suggestion.... that then became a mess lol

obtuse quail
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There's the "make game easier to make it easier" reason that could be used

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But a new mulch or repel item that cost FP could work for it

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Gives more use to FP

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There's still 4 canon mulch options to use since freeze uses a custom sprite

jagged compass
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slk can you unblock Lucho? he has a lot of interesting ideas and I feel it would be beneficial if team members didn't block each other. we can't really decide anything in good conscience otherwise

young timber
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l m a o

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they have each other blocked, no?

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so why are you asking just sLk?

jagged compass
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they should both unblock each other

glacial forge
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Slk has the extension to not see the messages of people he has blocked

jagged compass
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nothing will get done otherwise

glacial forge
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I open all his messages when they are concerning balance

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That said, I didn't ask jostav to ask this

jagged compass
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but if everyone is blocking everyone then idk what to do

young timber
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🤷

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that's just how it is

jagged compass
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it just doesn't make sense to block someone you are trying to work with

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but i guess my opinion doesn't matter

young timber
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I don't think they wanna work with each other?

glacial forge
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Your opinion is valid jostav

young timber
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but what do I know?

glacial forge
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I just don't think you are gonna reach who you are trying to reach

obtuse quail
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I gave my opinion on what was listed on the suggestion

glacial forge
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That's why I barely bother

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And I didn't post my issue here until today

obtuse quail
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And at the end of the day I am just a mod that has no control over what is accepted and what is rejected for the game

glacial forge
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And honestly, I shouldn't even have done it, I knew I was not gonna get any real discussion about it, so I should have just waited until the triage with the other CCs

obtuse quail
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So is this all the numbers for exp aura?

let me summarise this (20 berries + 4 Lum + 1 Petaya):
With 1.015 -> 2.43x Aura
With 1.03 -> 3.26x Aura

with 21 berries + 4 Lum
With 1.015 -> 2.54x Aura
With 1.03 -> 3.46x Aura

with 1.02:
20 berries -> 2.68x Aura
21 berries -> 2.81x Aura