#Pokéstar Studios in Unova and related Pokémons

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cyan meadow
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Post here if you have any idea about the Pokéstar Studios suggestion, I don't know if it would fit only as a place or as multiple locations, any idea is good to be heard so be free to join the conversation!

Here's the link to the GitHub suggestion where I developed my vision of the project:
https://github.com/pokeclicker/pokeclicker/issues/3826#issue-1551618702

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Current Behavior Currently, some really interesting, quite official, pokémon aren't present in the game. Improved Behavior I was surprised that no one proposed this before, but in Unova the...

still bloom
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so it'd be like a separate bulletin board or something? i'm always up for more optional stuff! maybe you could even get rewarded with diamonds for the high level stuff if they're a one time thing?

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oh and I like the GMax Garbodor idea. that's enough of a reason for me lol

cyan meadow
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yeah it could take the form of another bulletin board since it would perfectly fit the idea of picking a film genre to make through quests

cyan meadow
atomic cove
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it's hard to consider this a pokemon, but if its just story gameplay i am all for it, I personally really liked doing the pokestar studio in the original game

cyan meadow
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ohh this is not a pokémon

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this is a trainer

atomic cove
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yeah

cyan meadow
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ok i'm doing the list of the mons

still bloom
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honestly getting these as pokemon would be so cool

cyan meadow
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oh yeah easier

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To resume there's a total of 15 different pokémons with weird designs, the whole point was to serve the different senarios proposed but they ended up having real stats (which are like mew for all 15) types combo and talents

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They all have a "prop name" and a "story name" because they're supposed to be green stands in front off a green screen and like cgi stuff

atomic cove
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BBvsl3TyCU&ab_channel=CollectorTogami for now this could be used for dialogs and text, but finding them in a 3h video is heh

I always wanted to do this with my Smeargle. Finally got around to it.
A few notes:
The emulator lagged at some points since I was recording.
Since you have to stall it out for most Strange Endings, Spore is vital.
To prevent stuff like Perish Song and that Majin from OHKOing me, I used Imprison and sealed the relevant moves.
Interestingly enoug...

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cyan meadow
atomic cove
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yeah

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for the sprites, do we need to make new ones or is it fine since its in the original series and not fanmade by an artist?

cyan meadow
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I guess both because in black 2 white 2 all sprites are gifs and not stills

atomic cove
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if you click on the image in the bulba page there is a fix image

cyan meadow
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so it is both from the game and we're gonna have to screen one frame from the in game gif (if that makes sense)

cyan meadow
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ooh cool

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then I guess it is okay about it

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also idk where to find this but I do know for sure that shinies exist for these monsters
like actual in game files shinies

atomic cove
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nevermind i tought it was fix but when i click the image it's still animated

cyan meadow
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yup

atomic cove
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serebbi has fix sprites, not the shiny ones tho

cyan meadow
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apparently there's also a bowtie Smeargle that I didn't remembered about

cyan meadow
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i'm just looking into the whole internet to find some informations about these pokemons but maybe they're used in some other fangames and i'm just being tricked

atomic cove
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ok

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and what do we do about the id's? they aren't forms of any current pokemons

cyan meadow
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that was my main thing in mind when I was writing the suggestion

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since, I have no idea

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the idea of a negative id is a thing, like in code it is possible

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maybe PS-01 up to PS-15 and their id going from -1 to -15

atomic cove
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i don't know how programming works so this might be not possible, but making them -id was my main idea

cyan meadow
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megas were -id for a long time

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and they were working even when they weren't added

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officially

humble trellis
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The GMax Garbodor idea does not really work with the current plan for GMaxs

atomic cove
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?

cyan meadow
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it's okay it was just a thrown idea

blissful pike
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can you really consider a black belt a Pokemon?

humble trellis
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No

cyan meadow
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it would be sick

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oh ):

humble trellis
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I don't know the context, but a Black Belt is a trainer

cyan meadow
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it clearly is a pokemon

blissful pike
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in one of the pokestar studios movies, you go into the future where the pokemon/trainer relationship has been reverse

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reversed

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so a ledian with a spear sends out a black belt against you

cyan meadow
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joke asside, it was the purpose of the pokestar to kinda play with the perception with what a pokemon is

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technically in lore black belt is juste an image set on a green screen and the pokemon is hitting the green screen

atomic cove
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i didn't read the detailed suggestion before so i didn't know the garbodor idea, sorry

cyan meadow
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as every 15 ps mons are

blissful pike
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there are at least a couple of truly unique Pokemon forms attached to pokestar studios. Most notably Spear Ledian and Bowtie smeargle.

cyan meadow
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i mentioned that yes

atomic cove
cyan meadow
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the before visual are all the same

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it would be boring

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cuz the concept was to add them like add a pair of legs

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idk if it's out of mind, it's in the games and i think i accented enough about how they were weird and bizzare and uncommon and unfamiliar and even more adjectives

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but it was my conception of the suggestion, adding those weird guys by adding a cool gameplay to introduce them as new pokemon usually get a quest associated with them

cyan meadow
humble trellis
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The Mecha Tyranitars could probably be argued as Pokémon. Since they are fully based on a pokemon

cyan meadow
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i think it would be weird to add only some of them tho

atomic cove
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(spoiler gen 9)|| its similar to it's paradox form||

cyan meadow
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yes

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||paradox forms|| also tend to remind of F-00 and F-00 (broken)

atomic cove
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for the shinies I can't find anything

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exept for that one youtube shorts

blissful pike
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i think it'd be best to probably tier all the designs in terms of likelihood

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how close they are to pokemon

atomic cove
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i think the two robots, humanoid, and majinn are the more pokemon-like

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also monster

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other are just items/machine or a door x)

cyan meadow
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Those who look the most like "real" mons imo would be
the two F-00, the two doors (they're giving spiritomb), Humanoid, Majin, MT, MT2, Monster, Transportand the two UFO (since they're based on Cascoon)

atomic cove
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UFO could be considerated because of the ||new future paradox form||(gen 9)

cyan meadow
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I'm counting Transportand since Klefki exists btw

blissful pike
cyan meadow
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I could give it a shot

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but it's like my opinions

blissful pike
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it's to give the option to the devs where to draw the line of appropriate vs. inappropriate

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like, to give an example from one of my own suggestions

cyan meadow
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most likely : Majin, MT, MT2
likely : F-00, F-00 (Broken)
maybe : UFO, UFO 2, Black Door, White Door, Transport
maybe not : Humanoid, Monster
unsettling : Black Belt, Brycen-Man, Monica

cyan meadow
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and ofc in the list I exclude things such as the bowtie Smeargle, Speared Ledian and the green square taking place of the mons in the studio

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which are another debate imo

atomic cove
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but the there are 3 of them who are litterally humans x)

cyan meadow
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Machamp looks like a human

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Sawk and Throh also

atomic cove
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true🧐

cyan meadow
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IK it's different but we should not take them as pokemons like we're used to think about

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but as another whole sub-concept of Unova

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which features Monica, a pair of legs

atomic cove
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making them ditto forms ID could be a great way to bypass the subject

cyan meadow
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now you're saying it yeah BUT it opens the door for everything and beyond

atomic cove
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true

cyan meadow
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like if Ditto solves this problem, I want my Ditto Cynthia to be my pokemon 4ever (argument by absurd)

atomic cove
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like latias women form

atomic cove
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can i try making the story for one of the play?

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not the code, just the story and mechanics

cyan meadow
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ofc

atomic cove
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so my idea for the map is to have 2 seperate area in pokestar studio, the studio and the movie theater

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I am gonna go trought my black2 savefile to get my ideas for the story: Ghost Eraser

blissful pike
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ooooh, i just had a thought.
if people don't like adding a lot of the more "creative" Pokestar Studios opponents, one thing we can stock it up with is pokemon forms exclusive to or based in irl movies, after any associated quests are complete.
stuff like Meta Groudon from the jirachi movie.
then it's available to EV for everyone.

cyan meadow
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We could even imagine scripts related to the films if so

blissful pike
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well, that'd probably be the existing quests

cyan meadow
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if we do so I think in the pokedex the pokémon will be stored before Bulbasaur, which is a problem

cyan meadow
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So I don't really know how to bypass this, I came up with some ideas tho

  • As proposed earlier, they could be "forms" of an already existing Pokémon, Ditto was proposed but I think it would suit better Zoroark, since he's a 5g mon and pokestar studio is a 5g concept, also Zoroark is known to have Illusion as an ability so it could explain why could he have forms

  • They could have their own pokédex place, somewhere between Genesect and Chespin for example, idk if it's possible though

idk if it is relevant in the discussion but apparently in the data of the national dex of b2w2 they're stored from #652 to #684, which isn't replicable in pokéclicker
( https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokémon_by_index_number_(Generation_V) )

atomic cove
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or what about having "another" pokedex or just a list of unidentified pokemon's? this could also be used for othe creatures who aren't forms of already existing pokemon

trail jay
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MissingNo alt forms should work just fine

cyan meadow
vagrant shard
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Not sure if I'm late with proposing ideas, but would it be an idea to have special filmshoot locations like how IRL movies are shot in different locations for scenes.

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For example a shoot in Driftveil City or something

atomic cove
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this would kinda deviate from cannon since all the film in game are filmed on a green sreen in the studio

cyan meadow
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It's never to late to propose ideas! I'm seeing a lot of movement recently on others posts so I wait for people to look at this one, since it isn't a priority at all.
However, Matipou is right, in game every films are shot in stage with green screens, but we could deviate from the main game regarding our idea to make our own senarios / to recreate pokémon films scenarios

atomic cove
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sorry i was very busy these past few days, so i couldn't really work on many things related to this.

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here's my general idea:

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ghost eraser 1

trail jay
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i'd say it's better to send the doc instead of screenshots

atomic cove
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yeah x)

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does it works?

trail jay
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nop

atomic cove
trail jay
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it works now

atomic cove
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ok👍

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there might be a few errors, my grammar isn't really good.

cyan meadow
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Oh hi! I like this first concept a lot it's so cool, easy to understand and it's like in the games!! However, I'm now wandering what would be the rewards for doing films, quest points ? shards ? items ? evs for non ev-able mons ? ...

atomic cove
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oh

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I am gonna think about it

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I'll update the dock soon

verbal crystal
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Pretty interesting Idea! Any updates on how it is going, or is it shelved for now?

atomic cove
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yeah it's shelved rn, I lost the motivation and don't have much time :/, if anyone is interested in the project i'll hand over the document authorization to that person

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sorry : (

verbal crystal