cedar vine
Adding the Vivillons back during the Fancy vivillon event has been approvedper https://github.com/pokeclicker/pokeclicker/issues/3480
Every vivillon shows up in a dungeon except for pokeball vivillon. What should we do about pokeball vivillon?
Duplicate BF awards does not in giving extra EVs.
rough wing
Roamer that can only be caught with a pokeball
turbid cipher
2 bad ideas to get you started:
Roamer (boring)
Cheri wanderer (mean)
Or... Chest mimic in PokeBall factory?
cedar vine
all painful ideas
rose wyvern
chest mimic depends on weighting to see how mean it is
but you could also just put it in a post-kalos dungeon
oooh, or have it spawn in every victory road.
cedar vine
my original idea for adding the vivillons back was chest mimics during the event, but that would be painful even if they were as common as electrodes so i compromised with myself and put them back as bosses
cedar vine
oooh, or have it spawn in every victory road.
theres already a few that pop in victory road i believe
prime aurora
Another boring but simple solution is
Buy it at the battle frontier for bp
patent isle
Only appears in the dungeon (Don't know which dungeon (maybe PokeBall factory?)) if the player has a standard pokeball applied in each of the selectors
patent isle
17% base catch rate (+ magic ball if not AC)
rose wyvern
i think they want to avoid Pokeball factory because tundra already spawns there
but what about Thrifty Megamart?
you get most Pokeballs at stores, afterall
patent isle
Yeah, that makes sense
mint sapphire
so wait, what's stopping them from being in the friend safari? other than it not being a thing yet lol (also it'd be cool to rework the lunar new year's event to be its own event like the christmas and easter ones)
cedar vine
nothing but it makes no sense that all the others are coming back but that one
mint sapphire
the other ones could be in the safari too, is what I was thinking
i would like vivillon to have some cool unique stuff with it, i've even thought about making it evolve into a pattern based on your language now that that's an option but until there's a place to catch Meadow i don't even want to think about suggesting something like that
cedar vine
thats a completely different thing then what was approved
mint sapphire
i know lol
cedar vine
then why even bring it up here?
mint sapphire
sorry, i guess i was treating this like a chat....
there's no reason pokeball pattern couldn't be in another dungeon. you could always do that
sturdy seal
Temporary adding to BP shop with a prize equal to the BP you earn in stage 666? Could be a way to make BF without being bf
Abstraction, didn't get the word
rose wyvern
i feel like "one-sixth of a mega evolution" is a bit much for a more farmable version of a fairly ehhhh Pokemon.
but i wouldn't be opposed to a smaller fraction, maybe between 1 and 2.5k?
...Honestly, I'd still pick the Thrifty Megamart spawn point over that -
...or what about Artisan Cave? Stock that with Smeargle, a sudowoodo boss, and maybe mix in some pokemon and trainers from the Battle Resort version?
charred goblet
What about a Safari Zone spawn?
mint sapphire
oh now that I remembered, doesn't Meadow need a proper obtain method too?
prime aurora
Do any other vivillon spawn in Pokémon Village? Meadow could just go there
mint sapphire
any progress on this? I was wondering, what's stopping Pokeball pattern from being put in the factory besides it already housing Tundra? Couldn't they be switched around or something?
rose wyvern
that'd be weird and complicated, to have them line up with their quest dungeons except for this one specific one
You'd have a better case for arguing the dungeon tundra is from should be completely changed, both in quest and in event
mint sapphire
yes, you are right. and this isn't the thread for that... sorry!
rose wyvern
i dunno, it's not massively out of scope. this is ultimately to decide where Pokeball Vivillon goes, and deciding the factory should be it no matter what is not an unreasonable play - it's not like tundra makes a ton of sense there.
But i just think Thrifty Megamart is a perfectly reasonable solution that doesn't feel out of place.
mint sapphire
can't have a gen 6 pokemon in a gen 7 dungeon
rose wyvern
i mean, firstly it's for a pokemon that you probably can't get until mid-alola anyways. you can't reach 666 in the BF while you're in Kalos
mint sapphire
it's more about the principle really. other than original Magearna the devs haven't locked a pokemon form behind a future generation and I don't see Pokeball Viv being an exception :/ plus it'd be only different enough to be weird, since it would still be in a dungeon. if a special form needs a special dungeon then the Thrifty Megamart isn't one of them imo
but yeah this is a hard one, I can't think of anything except something "funny" like having it in viridian forest since that's close to the catching tutorial and, well it's a "pokeball" haha
idk why I try to make jokes
rose wyvern
but it's not really locked behind that. they're accessible through a kalos quest already, right?
All that's locked is ev grinding it
cedar vine
Meadow is easy, make it an additional roamer along with fancy during the event. PokeBall I'm leaning towards that too or BF shop if it can only show during the event and disappear after
But the code is there to at least get all the other ones to work as dungeon bosses again during the event
mint sapphire
oh oh, would it be too weird if we put a few as random route encounters like the halloween pokemon? like Meadow in Kalos since it's found in french 3ds regions, or Elegant in Kanto???
and it might even be cool to split up spawns in Kalos by the regional dexes! Marine in Coastal Kalos routes, Meadow in Central, and Continental in Mountain?
mint sapphire
viv event is coming soon. have we settled on a method? I wouldn't mind helping out with whatever we do, even if it's dungeons. Leaf won me over with the post-Kalos regions too, I think it'd be worthwhile to consider alola and galar
as for my last idea, all the regions and subregions can easily account for about half of the vivillon if we really stretch it (the rest can be in dungeons). dungeons without routes would be fine too but I just really like the added flavor of seeing some in the wild
rose wyvern
okay let me summarise the options for resolving Pokeball vivillon:
A: Change the existing spawn location of Tundra to a different location, and set the Pokeball Vivillon to spawn in the Pokeball factory.
B: Add Pokeball Vivillon to Thrifty Megamart, the alola dungeon, for the duration of the event.
C: Make Pokeball Vivillon available for some amount of bp.
D: Cheri Berry Wanderer
E: Additional Roamer, potentially in different locations to Fancy.
Please vote on which options you like.
cedar vine
A would require changing the whole quest.
B would make sense since you would need about that much power to obtain it anyways.
C would require some new code for shops
D I do not like
E can be used for meadow
But I'm not gonna have time to finish what I have until after the event starts so if somebody else were to take it over it'll be up to whoever does it
rose wyvern
so your vote's for b
sturdy seal
Cherri? Isn't that like free poke?
rose wyvern
it was an option mentioned early on so i included it
rose wyvern
if people are fine with b, I'll do my best to tinker the event before it actually starts
sturdy seal
Is in like a week
rose wyvern
it doesn't need any new resources, it mainly just needs a copy paste job of adding a bunch of dungeon bosses with nearly the same names and copy pasta
turbid cipher
I'd say wait for sLK (rabbits) to chime in, they have been working on it
rose wyvern
okie dokie
rose wyvern
i'm taking that as permission to do it?
cedar vine
i'm taking that as permission to do it?
Go for it. I'm headed out of town in 2 hours and won't be back for a few days
mint sapphire
oh oh, would it be too weird if we put a few as random route encounters like the...
don't mean to be pushy but no one's told me if my idea is good or not 😅
if it sucks you say that too, I just need closure lol
cedar vine
It diverts from what was approved
mint sapphire
ok!
rose wyvern
i don't think i'm gonna be able to learn what I need to know by the time the event starts
even if i had a good teacher and something, it'd still need to go from idea to merge in a week.
I'm gonna pencil myself down for fixing the vivillon quest line, but... later.
mint sapphire
i don't think i'm gonna be able to learn what I need to know by the time the eve...
you don't need to change anything, just insert the dungeon vivs with the completion of the quest as a requirement. you can even reference bulbarose
here's the special event file and the pull request for rose bulbasaur if you need them:
https://github.com/pokeclicker/pokeclicker/blob/develop/src/scripts/specialEvents/SpecialEvents.ts#L44
https://github.com/pokeclicker/pokeclicker/pull/1991
rose wyvern
The problem is the conflict between the event and the quests Remove function
mint sapphire
remove function? it looks like it's a roaming thing. does it affect dungeons?
oh you mean on questlinehelper
rose wyvern
both the quest step and the event remove temp bosses by filtering on the pokemon's name
which means i'd need to alter the working of the quest (possible but beyond my skills) or completely remake it to be a more traditional quest (the current ultimate intention)
and do the same for the Event Quest
mint sapphire
i'm wondering how simple it'd be to change that remove to a filter, and if that would even work
mint sapphire
oh lol
rose wyvern
you see the problem
torpid vapor
I know that Jaaslet wants to change the questline to be more normal at some point
mint sapphire
the vivs? yes me too. I can brainstorm all day on this cool bug lol
but there's nothing wrong with being patient, and all will happen in due time!
rose wyvern
I know that Jaaslet wants to change the questline to be more normal at some poin...
that'd half fix the problem, but only half fix it.
to really fully fix it, you'd probably need something like an EventRequirement
rough wing
Maybe it's cuz I'm sick but I'm not seeing how the quest line is an issue? They should only be getting added back to dungeons during the event if the quest is complete, right?
rose wyvern
it's how the quest and the event work
they both work by temporarily adding the boss, and then filtering it out by name
and these bosses would share the same name
rough wing
so... then the worry is that when completing a quest step during the event would remove both the vivillon entries from the boss encounter list?
rose wyvern
yes
there's ways to mitigate or remove that risk, but I'm not talented enough to learn in a matter of days,
rough wing
the quest vivillons don't have any Requirements while the event ones will, so instead of rewriting how the quest works right now it could be as simple as changing the filter to
dungeonList[dungeon].bossList.filter(boss => boss.name != vivillon || (boss.name == vivillon && boss.options?.requirement));
rose wyvern
Ooooh. That could work. I was thinking it might be possible to set them to unique hp values and filter on that, but yours feels a lot less rickety.
That would be the Quest step version, right? How would I change the boss.options?.requirement line so it filters out only vivillons with requirements, for the seasonal end?
rough wing
add a ! before boss.options?.requirement
rose wyvern
ah, classic ! = not.
rose wyvern
does anyone have a save of them before the vivillon quest or midway through it?
rose wyvern
i've gotten the event to start properly and end properly
rose wyvern
quest and boss overlap, first test:
the locked viv is the event, the other is the quest
after the quest catch, one viv is visible...
...and by it's max hp I can see it's the Event one. the quest one was extracted successfully!
test two: this time i'm gonna let the clock run out and see if the event despawning causes the vivillon to despawn. if there's one unlocked viv when i come back, mission accomplished.
rose wyvern
it works! Thank you, @rough wing
rose wyvern
PR Sent!
sturdy seal
Have you check they roam also galar dlc Subregions?
rose wyvern
i've checked and they don't. do you think they should?
sturdy seal
Yes
Taking account the amount of routes in galar it mean the best route have still a low roamer chance
#github message
This pr added event roamers to all subregions
For Santa snorlax
rose wyvern
fair enough.
i'm just adding Fancy to Galar and just Meadow to Alola, because the names fit thematically in those places and Kalos's roamer pool is pretty crowded.
do you think i should add Meadow to Magikarp Jump?
sturdy seal
Is not a karp
rose wyvern
we are of the same mind, then.
sturdy seal
XD
rose wyvern
i'd like to present the single wordiest NPC, possibly in the game so far...
a photobook.
they do say a picture is worth a thousand words XD.
sturdy seal
How it looks Ingame?
rose wyvern
i'm scared to look
sturdy seal
XD
rose wyvern
running eslint-fix, gimme a moment
...well, they do say a picture is worth a thousand words XD
i'll probably have to split this into three.
sturdy seal
Damn... There isn't time... I have an idea... But I'm not so quick...
rose wyvern
what's the idea?
sturdy seal
Draw that situations, drawing not simple sprites
rose wyvern
yyyyeah nobody's that quick XD
sturdy seal
I mean, they don't need so much resolution... But still..
sturdy seal
For now you can add the sprites
So one day maybe they get updated with cute draws
Eugene have boon adding images to npc info
Like that cocoon
rose wyvern
look at it this way: you could think of it as having only three or so days... but if you did make those images, they could play a really cool factor in reworking the Vivillon quest or for future years of the event.
sturdy seal
I mean after have the idea I auto added them to the list... But I want to finish a draw before this evening
rose wyvern
if you're doing that, don't do tundra or poke ball just yet. there's still some discussion about swapping tundra for poke ball at the Poke ball factory.
sturdy seal
If I start them it will be later in the evening while is not my turn in our maybe last rol session
rose wyvern
rol? ah, you play tabletop?
sturdy seal
Yeah we do online but we do tabletop Warhammer fantasy
Similar to dyd but we use d100
rose wyvern
nice. i've only ever stuck with dnd and a few failed attempts to run Pokemon tabletops.
sturdy seal
Is very funny we end having to fight a giant fat badger that wanted to eat the world, almost our fault because was the Mount of our previous badger knight now chicken knight
rose wyvern
...i love just hearing a snippet of an ongoing campaign with no context. sounds like a good one.
sturdy seal
We are a bit mad... We once had to throw away all the people in a house. Was supposed to be a fight and 2 of us just made a party until the were so drunk that left the house by their own
rose wyvern
ah, rip
sturdy seal
Yeah, we like to drive gm mad with weird ideas, and is worst because one of the madest is his brother
rose wyvern
I have learned how to create
SEASONAL NPCS
I should be able to make a new version of the PR tomorrow.
Quick questions for the crowd:
sturdy seal
I have learned how to create
<:electric_icon:774090471873052732>SEASONAL NPCS<:...
I like the descriptions are enough evokative to generate an image at least in my mind... 😈
sturdy seal
I have learned how to create
<:electric_icon:774090471873052732>SEASONAL NPCS<:...
Of course is not finished
cedar vine
Rename the event to spring festival was my other goals since butterfly's have no relation to any lunar new years celebrations other then 1 off decorations for luxury brands
sturdy seal
But is too early for spring...
torpid vapor
I was at some point planning to suggest either Vivillon be removed from the event completely ||because Fancy Vivillon is available in the wild in Gen 9. Or make it a non event exclusive and just an earlier way to get it||. Not sure what to do about that now
mint sapphire
i think a new event would be fun but only because i'm not much of a dungeoner
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
sturdy seal
Of course a draft... Leaf, who is the blue like frog pokemon?
torpid vapor
Froakie?
sturdy seal
Ah! And I guess the orange moth is volcanion
rose wyvern
the blue frog is Seismitoad
cos it's the moor of icirrus
and seismitoad's one of the bosses there
likewise, the dragon types are from Dragonspiral Tower
so Druddigon, Dratini, Dragonite, Zekrom, and Reshiram are the possible dragon-types
i was imagining it as a bunch of druddigon
if you're stuck on a Pokemon, you can check the quest dungeons in Questlinehelper.ts
and it'll be one of the Pokemon in the quest dungeon.
rose wyvern
hmmm...
why is the text box so narrow, anyways?
rough wing
probably has the modal-sm class
rose wyvern
for now i'll substitute by getting the image to scale down.
there we go!
that's set with max-width and height:auto
so if the width is later expanded, it'll expand to fit
rough wing
you can just set width="200" (for example) on the <img> itself
rose wyvern
yeah, but i like it like that. any smaller and you'd be struggling to see the details, but if the text boxes get reworked to be bigger, the image will expand to be bigger too.
edgy delta
This probably won't be released before the start of the event, but we may be able to get it released part way through
@rose wyvern you have test saves for this?
rose wyvern
If you mean I’ve got my own saves I’ve been testing it on, yes.
edgy delta
(share them)
rose wyvern
I’ve submitted a pr with just the event Vivillon, this is an expansion of that that’s not been published to the branch yet.
If you mean the mid-viv-quest-save, I do have that, but I’m out buying cucumbers rn so gimme a bit
rose wyvern
also i bludged my way through the later temp battles so the attack is poopy for vivillon hunting
i know you can easy fix but just wanted to say
edgy delta
it's fine I have Infinity attack
rose wyvern
that save is just after marine, the next is modern which requires 100 psychic type catches.
that save does have enough qp to buy like a hundred link cables or something, though, so it's not exactly crippling.
rose wyvern
alright, the Vivillon PR is merged in! thanks to @edgy delta for doing the final review and approve, and thanks to @rough wing for helping with the filtering!
rose wyvern
scrollbar: this isn't even my final form
mint sapphire
very nice
rose wyvern
I've got the vivillon Photobook npc pretty much done and a bunch of Vivillon in as placeholders.
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
rose wyvern
cute!
did you see the comments i made about the unnamed pokemon from the hints?
sturdy seal
Yes
The weird words I just Google them but the pokemons were more hard
I had never heard about a bog before...
rose wyvern
ah yeah, it's a bit of a rare one. I think the original hint from the quest uses Swamp, and the location in-game is called a moor, but they're all kinda the same thing.
this is already looking so good
rose wyvern
looks pretty good to me
sturdy seal
👍
sturdy seal
running eslint-fix, gimme a moment
Mariposas
(is to find it easier as nobody else will wrote that word)
rose wyvern
@cedar vine can you pin this message?
edgy delta
this is already looking so good
would this look better if an NPC dialog could have multiple pages, with buttons to go forward/back a page?
twin cairn
If it had it would look like an actual photobook
rose wyvern
That could be really interesting. An image or two per page, like a real photobook.
It’d also expand options for more wordy npcs in general. I’ve got a plan for Marshadow that involves a whole series of riddles, and having the whole series available at once would be cool. Probably other cases where it could be handy too, like having a log of hints for all mega stones or for as yet unimagined quests.
Further thinking, if you could give individual pages Requirements, hoo boy, you could do all sorts of things. You could have one NPC list off a dozen hints or events, for something like Mega Stones, and have them naturally filter away as players track down the items. Or in the case of the Vivillon Photobook, have only Viola’s photographs for Vivillon forms you’ve already obtained.
With that said, I’ve been imagining a literal Star Wars opening scroll but it’s the Vivillon photobook, and that has been making me laugh as well. So for all the rambling I do think there is an appeal to ONE MASSIVE SCROLLBAR, even if it’s more amusement than anything.
But if you were tinkering with NPC dialog boxes, the first thing I’d want is just a bit more horizontal space. It’s already covering most of the important details in the central column, so if you expanded it a bit further to the sides you wouldn’t lose anything too important. That’d also help with the apparent length of the npc text
TLDR the idea of Paged NPCs does set off my creative juices but I’m still enjoying the current state of it.
mint sapphire
That could be really interesting. An image or two per page, like a real photoboo...
having a bestiary for vivillon forms is an idea i've entertained myself with before, but never attempted at, so I might be biased when I say I want unlockable photographs just like you're describing. and I'm not sure if npcs are a good fit for this next idea, but I've also really wanted to implement the Unown Report in this game somehow
sturdy seal
What about a menu option called clipping book with images you have receive during the game like invisible keckleon unowns vivillions... (but that would need the hability to record already visit npcs...)
mint sapphire
that's the direction I was thinking, but if someone wants to do them as npcs I don't mind
i'm just glad other people like Leaf also think it's a good idea in general
sturdy seal
Tbf I'm biased, I love images
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
twin cairn
Omg that's so cute
sturdy seal
Dark spaces doesn't have too much to play with
So play with the shot, almost a nadir
rose wyvern
Dark spaces doesn't have too much to play with
If one of my descriptions is vague or unhelpful, feel free to just check Questlinehelper, get the actual Vivillon’s d dungeon, and come up with your own idea for it.
Granted, this one is Dark Cave, so…
sturdy seal
rose wyvern
Niiiice
sturdy seal
This time I don't ping because you was just here
Less play with background more play with outline, shot and even old photo effect
twin cairn
I'm curious on how tundra will look like now
sturdy seal
I'm 100% sure I won't finish that in half hour so you will need to wait until tomorrow
rose wyvern
It might be good to save a copy of Tundra’s with blank wings, in case someone later changes Tundra’s spawn location and brings Poke ball to the factory instead.
sturdy seal
Outline is in a different layer, add new color is easy
rose wyvern
Smart
sturdy seal
Still need a lot of elements to become this into a factory
rose wyvern
before drakay goes to sleep:
@edgy delta if you want to toy around with implementing a page system, or anything similar, I've put up a draft PR of the Vivillon Photobook you can use as a testing ground.
edgy delta
I don't want to touch the npc stuff without rewriting it
and I just don't want to do that right now
rose wyvern
fair enough XD
sturdy seal
Miss only the vivillon
rose wyvern
is the vivillon gonna be at the green outline?
sturdy seal
The green is a very low quality draft to locate it in image yes
rose wyvern
my original idea was to actually have it riding on the conveyor belt itself. just sitting on it.
rose wyvern
damn.
sturdy seal
I can add him a helmet os it looks more like a worker
sturdy seal
Is fault of pokemon anatomy, as vivillon only have cefalotorax and 4 legs not like a real butterfly so it reduce movility
rose wyvern
You see a Tundra Vivillon, in a factory of rolling Poké Balls. It's wearing a little hard hat proudly.
sturdy seal
You cna keep text if you consider ridding = operating
The "bull" operator is looking at it surpriesed
rose wyvern
I'll wait to see the final image then decide if the text needs tweaking. in future cases, if you think an image's description won't work for a reason like that, feel free to draw something else, as long as the final image does point to where to go.
sturdy seal
I think it haves a lot of pokeball and fscotry vibes XD
rose wyvern
yeah if people don't get "poke ball factory" from a conveyor belt with Poké Balls on it, they need their heads checked.
sturdy seal
XD
rose wyvern
The "bull" operator is looking at it surpriesed
ah, the vehicle's called a bull where you're from? i can see that, cos the front's like the head and horns, right?
sturdy seal
Spain... Yes we are flooded by bull images... Meh
rose wyvern
ah yes, the place that got ||three regional forms to tauros|| in S/V. strong bull vibes XD.
in english we call it a forklift. because the horns look like fork prongs and it lifts things... very creative name there.
rose wyvern
Super cute
edgy delta
the hardhat 👌
sturdy seal
rose wyvern
That guys having fun. Very cute.
sturdy seal
I used a volcano photo as reference
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
rose wyvern
https://youtu.be/N8u0WQ4wIWE?t=60
It's the central pillar in Sprout Tower. It moves back and forth.
sturdy seal
More tomorrow
rose wyvern
hoothoot's used to this, it probably lives here.
sturdy seal
Actually it looks like that right now
rose wyvern
looking very good
sturdy seal
drafts
sturdy seal
(yes I drawed a bit in English class)( and savanna one is inspired by hitchkok movie)
I will keep going in order with this 2 had special hard points to take into account
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
delicate island
im not sure im allowed to comment by im blown away by how good these are
rose wyvern
it really does elevate what was just gonna be the wordiest npc into what's almost undeniably the single best one.
a ton of beautiful artwork that's both informative and thematically appropriate
tribal blade
I feel like we should be able to see these not just during the event, given how beautiful they are. Feels more like a progress tracker, but I can also see keeping it viewable after the event and only after
rose wyvern
there's someone who's been meaning to rework the Vivillon quest, from it's current more algorithmic design to a more traditional one
i think it's jaaslet?
I'm hoping that it'll get incorporated into that quest as well.
twin cairn
Klefki scares the hell out of me
sturdy seal
He is happy
sturdy seal
He only stole the key
edgy delta
is this vivillon doing crime
sturdy seal
Nah is klefki doing crime
mint sapphire
It looks like it's about to murder the poor vivillon
that's why he's happy
oh shit just noticed that 707! cool detail
sturdy seal
So you didn't noticed that it have the colors and patterns of lost hotel
mint sapphire
I thought that was obvious but some people haven't played XY
sturdy seal
I haven't played...
mint sapphire
then that's what they call "a good job"!
sturdy seal
Search references is really easy
mint sapphire
you'd be surprised at how many people don't do that lol
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern you forget a vivillon!!! Modern one
sturdy seal
rose wyvern
<@188232095636652033> you forget a vivillon!!! Modern one
Oops
rose wyvern
how's this:
You see what was seemingly meant to be a photo of a Pokémon with a bulbous purple tail. However, a Modern Vivillon has jumped in front, and you can't get a good look at the other Pokémon.
sturdy seal
Lol
rose wyvern
Modern vivillon Photobombs Mewtwo
sturdy seal
Did you see elegant was finished?
rose wyvern
yes! i love that you paid attention to make sure it fit the location too
sturdy seal
As the new blue said even the room number
rose wyvern
this npc is really gonna look just incredible.
...i also just looked up 707. That's another really cute detail XD
sturdy seal
Klefki id
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
edgy delta
Nice blanket
sturdy seal
Is dreamyard... Mushrana is most important poke...
twin cairn
that's so cute
rose wyvern
very nice
sturdy seal
rose wyvern
amazing XD
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
rose wyvern
nice
rose wyvern
this is really starting to look like a much cooler folder than it was
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
sturdy seal
rose wyvern
Nice, eterna forest viv on its way
rose wyvern
<@188232095636652033>
and this poor vivillon is so doomed XD
rose wyvern
i'd be down for that
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
sturdy seal
Ignore the quality and proportions is this peering over the edge?
edgy delta
yes
sturdy seal
torpid vapor
That's a big Vivillon
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
twin cairn
that vivillon is really brave
rose wyvern
woke up, hopped on the computer and saw this, very nice
twin cairn
i would've fell or black out
sturdy seal
Do you think Ray would even notice a small butterfly?
twin cairn
i mean it's pattern should be really noticeable
edgy delta
m = miles?
sturdy seal
Meters...
edgy delta
I like the picture, just making jokes
sturdy seal
I mean pokemons are just stupid oversize anyway
torpid vapor
Pokémon are very weird in size. Many creatures that should be small (mostly bugs) are, still small, but much less small. And many that should be massive are barely taller than a human (like, consider Groudons role. It should be the size of at least a small mountain!)
sturdy seal
Yes need more broken pillars
sturdy seal
Yeah,that relic castle I will add also some "boulders"
rose wyvern
if you mean a certain blue "boulder" you find there, i think that will be a very effective hint.
sturdy seal
Yeah, that kind of "Boulder" .... Maybe mixed with boring boulders
torpid vapor
That's adorable
twin cairn
it's asking for directions in my mind which makes that adorable
rose wyvern
it shoulda taken a left at alberqueque
sturdy seal
But Mr volcarona have you seen that pokemon called darmanitan zen?
Sorry son no clue...
rapid scaffold
MBs... the only way to get Zen
rapid scaffold
oops, wrong chat... lol
sturdy seal
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twin cairn
i was gonna say you should add flabebes but then i remembered flower paradise is in sinnoh
rapid scaffold
ok.. i came to this channel by accident BUT... that is an awesome pic!! my only concern is what that thing blowing out of its mouth might look like when the image is shrunk to a tiny size.
rose wyvern
A very beautiful flower viv
sturdy seal
Clefairy color isn't finished
sturdy seal
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rose wyvern
nice!
sturdy seal
Only 3 left
sturdy seal
Next objective icy snow from lame to cute
sturdy seal
@rose wyvern
Any resemblance to irl people is coincidence
And the hat in real life is black but that doesn't work in draws
rose wyvern
who's it meant to be?
edgy delta
what is the resemblance you are talking about
torpid vapor
If I remember an earlier conversation correctly, the woman is based on/is DraK
rose wyvern
ah, i see. cute detail
edgy delta
don't slip on the ice
sturdy seal
Jess I had a bad idea, that when you finish viví questline a npc like keckleon one appear with a last image with viola and all vivis
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tribal blade
Jess I had a bad idea, that when you finish viví questline a npc like keckleon o...
That sounds amazing if that would be possible
turbid cipher
EZPZ from a requirement standpoint
rose wyvern
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run little viv, run! XD
Poke Ball's the only one from the original spec yet to be done.
rose wyvern
Jess I had a bad idea, that when you finish viví questline a npc like keckleon o...
if you wanted to do that, that would be an amazing finisher.
sturdy seal
rose wyvern
very nice
sturdy seal
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