harsh ruin
Hey guys
Just looking for some help putting together a gaming /streaming pc
Looking for a white build if possible 64gb ram high end graphics card and a decent amount of storage. I’m gonna be wanting to play the latest games and stream at the same time .ive been looking for a while but they dont seem to do the Hyte y70 case or 011 vision anymore ? Finally decided to ask for some help now I’ve got the money to throw into the build any help is much appreciated 😊
somber elbow
Hey guys
Just looking for some help putting together a gaming /streaming pc
L...
how much storage do you need
harsh ruin
I’m currently using a 2TB ssd and I’ve got a 2TB Samsung 970 evo nvme in also
somber elbow
the O11 vision compact is on the website btw
unfortunately the hyte case seems to have been taken off - they usually do this if they're not expecting stock for a while or if they won't stock it anymore
harsh ruin
I seen the compact version but they used to have the larger version? It’s the Hyte y70 I really wanted but doesn’t show on the site anymore
somber elbow
the larger one was the dynamic evo XL iirc
harsh ruin
In my head I was thinking if I’m spending a decent amount on a new PC why not look pretty at the same time 😂
somber elbow
the O11 vision compact is still a really nice case IMO
harsh ruin
Oh for sure I like it. I prefer the fans on top but can live with that
ember lagoonBOT
:tada: Congrats @harsh ruin, you levelled up to 2! :tada:
somber elbow
how much storage do you want the PC you buy to have? you should still be able to add your drives from your current system if you want
harsh ruin
Can we go with the 4TB? I’ve never completely filled it so should be good. Im happy even going with multiple drives if needed I know sometimes you have one for windows and one for everything else. I’m no expert really appreciate your help. I’m giving by current pc to my son i would feel bad stripping it down 😅
ember lagoonBOT
(https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/saved/5980496)
CFGAM7RZ5
CyberPowerPC UK 🔸 0333 323 7776 🔸 https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk
harsh ruin
Thank you. Just a quick question when I click the link it only shows primary storage nothing in secondary? But above shows x2 drives
somber elbow
the Secondary Storage section is exclusive to SATA drives only - primary storage can have secondary drives
it's a weird way to name the sections but it's basically just m.2 storage and sata storage
i've selected two M.2 drives
m.2 SSDs are typically cheaper than SATA SSDs
harsh ruin
Yeah that is weird I’m thinking is it just gonna give me x1 😂
somber elbow
dw - you won't just get one drive
it's designed to let you have multiple m.2 drives
harsh ruin
Perfect thank you 😄
stoic jay
Really the ONLY cpu anyone should be buying for gaming purposes right now is the 9800X3D. If you are on more of a budget then get the 7800x3d. Don’t buy Intel, don’t get an AMD with 2 CCD.
So you might want to change your selected cpu!!
ember lagoonBOT
:tada: Congrats @stoic jay, you levelled up to 1! :tada:
harsh ruin
I haven’t placed the order yet gonna hop on the PC and look through everything properly . Just wondering if the 5090 is overkill 😅
ember lagoonBOT
:tada: Congrats @harsh ruin, you levelled up to 3! :tada:
somber elbow
Really the ONLY cpu anyone should be buying for gaming purposes right now is the...
while the 9800X3D is the best gaming CPU the 9950X3D is very close in gaming performance
given the use cases (that being streaming and gaming) i think the extra cores will be needed for smoother gameplay and streaming
harsh ruin
I’m open to any suggestions just wanna make sure I get it right 🙂
stoic jay
For gaming, low latency, high L3 cache availability, and efficient thread scheduling matter more than sheer core count. The 9800X3D’s single CCD with full 3D V-Cache ensures consistent low-latency performance, while a 2-CCD CPU can introduce inefficiencies that negatively impact gaming.
somber elbow
For gaming, low latency, high L3 cache availability, and efficient thread schedu...
this ignores streaming
stoic jay
I have plenty of clients who run 9800x3d and stream off the same pc.
somber elbow
I have plenty of clients who run 9800x3d and stream off the same pc.
it isn't impossible to stream off of the 9800x3d - i'm saying that gaming and streaming at the same time will benefit from the higher core count
you're right that for just gaming it'd [the 9800x3d] be the better option but with streaming also in the mix i'd recommend the 9950x3d for the higher core count it offers - better for multitasking
stoic jay
Ie. The 5090 will handle all the streaming encoding.
ember lagoonBOT
:tada: Congrats @stoic jay, you levelled up to 2! :tada:
somber elbow
* If you prioritize pure gaming performance, a single-CCD CPU like the 9800X3D i...
i understand that the video encoding is going to be handled by the GPU but i still think a 9950X3D is going to be more beneficial to someone who streams - i think this because the chances of a streamer editing videos is likely higher than your average gamer
i think for video editing the extra cores would be beneficial - this is assuming that a streamer edits their videos
stoic jay
Nobody is editing videos at the same time as playing a game. Game latency is way more important than taking a couple more seconds exporting a video clip. I know so many pro gamers who have bought 2 CCD cpus and then returned them because of the inherent latency overhead. So really depends on whether 1) you are sensitive to in-game latency 2) you want to save yourself time and money...
Saying that, most pro streamers will have a 2 pc setup anyway - a far better solution than spending a lot of money on a single expensive swiss-army-knife PC.
somber elbow
i didn't say someone would edit videos and game at the same time - i made the fair assumption that someone who streams, edits videos.
the latency difference isn't going to be noticeable unless someone intends to do ultra-competitive gaming - the impact 16 cores would have on video editing would be much more significant than the negative impact of the small latency increase for gaming
harsh ruin
Appreciate all the input guys over the cpu. Just a quick question the original primary storage isn’t available now what would be the next best choice? Also is there much difference if any between the GeForce 5090 and as an example the Asus and msi versions? And would a 5080 be a massive drop in performance? Just weighing up options
fickle lintel
i think most reviewers says there is not much different between all the different 5090s just build quality and how well the cooler design works. Check out some videos see which one works the best for you
As for storage pick something with round about the same read and write speeds
ember lagoonBOT
:tada: Congrats @fickle lintel, you levelled up to 9! :tada:
harsh ruin
Thanks for the help
Do you think if I just go with the secondary drive twice would that be ok? Like have x2 of the 990 evo
Miles done the config for me originally
x2 2TB Samsung 990 EVO Plus PCle 4.0/
5.0 NVMe SSD - 7250MB/s Read & 6300MB/s
Write [+105] (1 Drive)
fickle lintel
YE Would work well the 990 are really good drives
harsh ruin
Just went to sort out purchasing the pc today. The ssd is unavailable, the PSU is out of stock and now also the ram 😅 how often do cyberpower restock?
somber elbow
Just went to sort out purchasing the pc today. The ssd is unavailable, the PSU i...
can you send the link of the system you went with
ember lagoonBOT
https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/saved/5980496
CFGAM7RZ5
CyberPowerPC UK 🔸 0333 323 7776 🔸 https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk
harsh ruin
It was the link you made for me miles
ember lagoonBOT
(https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/saved/5984613)
CFGAM7RZ5
CyberPowerPC UK 🔸 0333 323 7776 🔸 https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk
somber elbow
here it is with two 990 evo plus drives
the prices for everything seem to have gone down
harsh ruin
oh really ?? thats a big plus 😄 so its saying the rams in stock now aswell and the PSU ?
somber elbow
that pop-up says either items are unavailable or the price has changed - the RAM & PSU wasn't out of stock tmk
harsh ruin
oh i didnt even realise that even better 😄
harsh ruin
thanks for the help @somber elbow just one last question if i went with the lian li lcd fans would they swap out the fans that come with it ?? looks like it holds 4 fans ( 1 single on back and 3 bottom) plus 3 radiator fans
ember lagoonBOT
:tada: Congrats @harsh ruin, you levelled up to 4! :tada:
somber elbow
fans don't come with the case
so there wouldn't be anything to swap out
if you went with the lian li LCD fans you'd just have those instead of the icue ones
harsh ruin
what about the ones that come with the cooler ?
somber elbow
if you only went with 4 fans you will end up with 4 fans with the LCD fans and the 3 fans for the radiator still being the radiator fans - i.e. they'll be different
harsh ruin
yeah thats what i mean as if i go with 4 fans 3 of them would be on bottom under the GPU so you wouldnt see them
so they dnt swap out any fans on the aio ?
wasnt sure if there was a way to get all fans in the case matching
somber elbow
they will if you select enough fans - you would need to provide specific instructions on checkout to ask them to do it and you'll also need to purchase a single fan separately from them (i.e. you'd need to email cyberpower to pay for one more fan for your order)
since the max you can get on the configs is 6 and you need 7 for all of them to be LCD fans
harsh ruin
yeah thats what i thought you dnt get the option of 7 😄
harsh ruin
Thanks for all your help @somber elbow Order placed . I ended up going with the TRYX 360 cooler since I couldn’t get the Hyte y70 case to give it a bit flair lol my poor bank account lol
somber elbow
ah that's an expensive cooler - looks really good though, lmk how it is once it arrives!
harsh ruin
Yeah I know but since I couldn’t get the case I really wanted I though at least I can have something fancy looking above the 5090 🙈🙈 paid for fast tracking aswell so hopefully not too long got next week off work so hopefully arrived by then
somber elbow
🔥
it'll look amazing - make a post in #1071004305605267466 with pictures once it arrives
harsh ruin
Thanks again for all the assistance mate 👍🏻. I will do once it arrived and get it all set up. Gonna have too look at monitors now lol
ember lagoonBOT
@harsh ruin
harsh ruin
jeez protector lemme receive the system first 😄
harsh ruin
ember lagoonBOT
:tada: Congrats @harsh ruin, you levelled up to 5! :tada:
harsh ruin
Finally 🎉 I paid for the 3 day fast track thing suppose to be shipped tomorrow 😅
dense nimbus
Finally 🎉 I paid for the 3 day fast track thing suppose to be shipped tomorrow ...
beast of a pc
harsh ruin
Hopefully the investment lasts a longgggg time mate
dense nimbus
it sure will but yopu know how pcs are in a few months the pc cpould be "out dated"
harsh ruin
Hahahha yeah exactly mate this PC stuffs too damn expensive might need to go back to my snes 😂
somber elbow
usually once it has finished the production stage it'll do the QA stage the same day and might ship later on (5-6pm) to be delivered tomorrow
so make sure to check back on it for updates today - might see it zoom through
harsh ruin
Yeah al keep checking just with doing the fast track nothing really happened Friday or yesterday till today all at once 😂 fingers crossed just wanna try get it all sorted while I’m still off work
somber elbow
Yeah al keep checking just with doing the fast track nothing really happened Fri...
CPUK don't work on weekends that's why nothing happened
harsh ruin
Yeah totally understandable I meant I placed order on the Thursday so thought maybe the Friday and Monday things may have got moving but it’s fine at least it’s processing along now
I see what you mean miles it now says assembled whereas before it said in progress
harsh ruin
All look good mate thank you And cheaper 👍🏻. Just wanna get the best outta the new pc dnt really wanna spend 1k on a monitor lol
somber elbow
yeah i get that
you have a really high spec pc though - you could probably do 4k with it
it's honestly down to preference - personally, i prefer high framerates over quality but you may differ
sorry wait i have to correct myself, "you could probably do 4k with it" i mean you definitely CAN do 4k with it 💀
chilly spade
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09778LZGQ?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_10 this is the 4k monitor i have and its great!
harsh ruin
Oh nice one cheers
somber elbow
might want to censor your order number
harsh ruin
ember lagoonBOT
:tada: Congrats @harsh ruin, you levelled up to 6! :tada:
harsh ruin
Better 😅
harsh ruin
Pc came today. Everything seemed great till the cooler wasn’t working 😅😅 it’s something to do with the ADB keep showing then disappearing in the device manager.l so the software doesn’t detect it. According to Google and YouTube l.its detecting it on boot up like a idle screen but basically going on and off
somber elbow
my only idea is to make sure that the AIO is properly connected to the motherboard
harsh ruin
I’ve tried having a look and checked connection etc seems ok 😅🤦♂️. My biggest fear was something like this happening when it turns up
The fans work etc and you can use the software for that but the screens another software inside the app and it just comes on and off constantly I’m at a loss
harsh ruin
I’ve gotta take it down to cyberpower PC and they are gonna get there technicians to have a look at it. Constantly connecting running for a bit then going off. Al the constant sounds of a device being plugged in and out is driving me crazy 😂. I couldn’t see any loose wires or anything but the back of the of where the cables are quite compact and messy anyway so I didn’t have much chance
thick parrot
Shame spending that much cash for this to happen...but these things do happen I guess.
harsh ruin
I’ve took it back yesterday. Got a email today saying they think they have fixed the issue I’ve gotta go collect this afternoon. We will see 🤞🏻 totally get these things happen though the guys at cyberpower were great over the phone and in person
thick parrot
I guess its lucky you live close to them. Hopefully its fixed for you 🙂
harsh ruin
Yeah definitely and they were very helpfull when I have just been down
Just picked it up and everything seems ok now not getting the disconnect. Now it’s finally time to download some games and try 😂
somber elbow
crazy setup wtf 😭
